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12 failures by Napoleon Bonaparte

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Napoleon Bonaparte,
Memorial de saint-helene


Not easy to find in stories a figure as bright and more controversial than the emperor Napoleon. It is unlikely that any of the other greats got so much attention, so much enthusiasm and scathing criticism. His military activities, which seemed to be studied far and wide, still leave food not only for serious research, but also for the most fantastic versions and assumptions. Researchers almost unanimously and, it seems, forever gave Napoleon the first place in the row of outstanding military leaders.

Even Clausewitz called him "the last of the great commanders." This conclusion confirmed, it seems, time itself. The global conflicts of the 20th century turned both the preparation of wars and the leadership of the battle into the work of numerous headquarters. after that, it is considered almost an axiom that the mind and will of one person can never have such a powerful influence on the course of events as Napoleon did.

12 failures by Napoleon Bonaparte


Yes, the military craft at the turn of the second and third millennia more and more becomes a collective matter. Awesome technological advances put the commander in the position of manager of a powerful military machine, consisting of all the armed forces. Already in August, 1914, the barbed wire and machine guns, seemed to have finally written off the image of the great commander in the archives of the cabinet historians.

However, the First World War died down, followed by the Second, the era of nuclear confrontation has come, and interest in Napoleon’s military art has not abated. He just broke out with a new force. Especially since with the appearance in all parts of the world of a considerable number of applicants for Bonaparte, an outdated topic seems to be becoming more urgent than ever. Bonapartism has become surprisingly popular in Russia, as, indeed, the cult of Napoleon himself, although he sometimes takes on the character of a painful mania.

Campaigns and battles of the genius commander, whose very participation in hostilities, according to contemporaries, "did honor to war", have long been laid out on the shelves. Its place is given to brilliant insights and painstaking preparation of future triumphs, fatal decisions and tragic mistakes. Almost every step and Napoleon and his every word - from Toulon to Waterloo and St. Helena, has long been a corresponding justification. The theoretical is from the point of view of the “high” rules of military art, or, when the Napoleonic legend demands it, is mystical. Hence, it was so preordained from above — no more, no less. The latter, of course, is best suited when it comes to the failures of General Bonaparte, and then the Emperor of the French.

The successes and failures of Napoleon on the battlefields are the embodiment of his personal qualities into reality. Over and over again, calling him the genius commander of the captain of artillery, the revolutionary general, the first consul, the emperor, we give him his due, as a military and statesman. It must be admitted that Napoleon did everything to at least in military affairs not to depend on the whims and whims of politicians. And he did it so quickly that Europe simply did not have time to gasp as it received a new sovereign monarch. And after him - a whole dynasty of upstarts, who settled "on the old rotten thrones."



But long before that, in the Italian campaign, Napoleon had fought, practically not consulting with Paris. And not only that - he ignored the recommendations of the Directory, and even allowed himself to dictate to the directors a political solution to the problems. When the Italian army entered Milan, it resembled a mob of rags - they were thousands of soldiers dressed in rags, who had not seen their salaries for several months.

Nevertheless, her 27-year-old commander, who had won only four battles so far, ordered her entrance to the capital of Lombardy as if after thousands of years, Hannibal or Caesar entered it. “It strides widely, it’s time to stop” - these almost legendary words of the great Suvorov should have been well heard and appreciated both in Schönbrunn and in San Souci and Buckingham Palace.

To converge on the battlefield, they were not destined. When the regiments of Suvorov entered Italy, Bonaparte was already in Egypt. There, he did feel himself the absolute master of a huge country. In the East, the general not only fights and creates conditions for the work of countless staff of engineers and scientists who are “lucky enough” to go with him on an expedition. He concludes agreements, rewrites laws, conducts financial reforms, draws up large-scale projects of social transformations, builds channels and roads.


Napoleon in Egypt examines the mummy. "History of the Hutchinson Peoples", illustration 1915

However, the most ambitious of all ambitious and this is not enough. When besieging Acre, General Bonaparte ponders whether to move to Constantinople to get even with the Turkish Sultan with one blow, or to go to "fight India," and then rightfully crown himself with the crown of the Emperor of the East. But fate decreed otherwise. The imperial crown went to Napoleon, after Brumaire 18 and five brilliant years of the first consul's rule, who brought France out of the protracted crisis and returned her primacy among the European powers.

So, getting rid of extraneous influences, Napoleon immediately and without undue hesitation assumed responsibility for all possible failures. That is why military historians are so intriguing, moreover, it is literally that the great commander’s defeats literally hypnotize. It is better to study, as it is known, on the mistakes of others — if these are miscalculations of a genius, it is doubly instructive to analyze them.

There is no reason to try to open an unknown page of the history of the Napoleonic Wars in a series of online publications. Such, it seems, is almost gone. No one has any claims to the role of the discoverers of such an attractive topic as the defeat or failure of Napoleon Bonaparte. However, in the extensive Napoleonic bibliography it is still difficult to find a special study where an attempt would be made to summarize the experience of victories over the greatest of the generals.

The Military Review does not claim to be an exclusive researcher, and articles from other sources may well be used in thematic publications of the anniversary 2019 year, there may be repetitions, including our articles, although with new comments. Napoleonic series can be considered "open", including for new authors. At the same time, we do not need to observe the chronological sequence, we are not going to rank the winners of Napoleon somehow. The very same content of their own short essays will, as a rule, boil down to trying to look at the failures of the genius Corsican from a new perspective.

The tragic outcome of all the state and military activities of Napoleon was a final and irrevocable defeat. Although even after the death of Napoleon, many were ready to believe in the victorious return of the emperor from Saint Helena. Perhaps only Kutuzov and Alexander I were able to strategically outplay the French emperor. Strategically, France eventually gave way to confrontation with Britain.


Napoleon on Saint Helena. Not the most replicated image of the emperor in exile

But Napoleon lost no more than a dozen battles and only three companies as a whole. 1815 year is not counted here, because the emperor decided to renounce when the French were ready to give him a blank check on the deployment of a popular war. More rarely, Napoleon admitted his failures. Even such an undeniable defeat as Aspern, stubborn Corsican until the end of his days considered his tactical success. There is a certain logic in this conclusion - as a result of the battle, all conditions were created for a future victory, and the enemy, despite a rather unexpected success, did not receive any real advantages.

Yet, even such mediocrities as the Russian General Bennigsen or the Austrian Field Marshal Schwarzenberg could resist against Napoleon himself. It is no accident that in the proposed series of articles the emphasis will be placed on direct battles unsuccessful for the French commander - where success was decided within one or two days, when the circumstances were no longer able to change anything or almost nothing in the position of commanders. This means that everything was decided directly on the battlefield, and the role of military leaders - the winner and the loser, was most clearly manifested. An exception was made only for the siege of Acre, stretching for two months - the temptation was too great to understand the reasons for the first defeat of Napoleon, then also of the revolutionary General Bonaparte.

After more than two centuries after the Napoleonic wars, even the ardent apologists of the emperor do not take the liberty to assert that the failures of their idol are more a result of the loser’s mistakes than the winners ’merit. However, the British historian David Chandler, in a sense, went even further, arguing that "if the Austrian nucleus carried General Bonaparte to the grave, say on the Arcola bridge, then there would be no war." But accepting this point of view, any researcher obviously exaggerates the role of the French emperor himself. And ignore the objective historical causes of the revolutionary and Napoleonic wars.

Today, the researcher has almost unlimited sources at his disposal, and it’s not the simplest to study the defeats of Napoleon, it seemed to reduce the matter to just “parsing his flights”. But in this case, it is easy to become like the most ardent Bonapartists, who for a long time and forever denied the right to the role of the first plan to those who managed, or dared to fight with Napoleon on equal terms. No, of course, Kutuzov, the Archduke Charles, Blucher or Wellington, is not turned into mediocre extras - so the emperor himself will be humiliated. But the most that they, with this approach, are entitled to claim is to be worthy opponents of a great player. Sometimes they are even “allowed” not to be crushed, and only at best - “allowed” to take advantage of Napoleon’s misses.

Historical assessments and now, despite all the elaboration of the topic, are surprisingly one-sided. In order to understand this, it is enough to get acquainted with the most striking characteristics drawn from the worldwide network that modern nouveau Napoleonologists give the winners their idol.

Emperor Alexander I, the Russian Tsar - an oriental despot, forever playing a liberal.

Field Marshal Kutuzov is an old gentleman, a decrepit satrap and a libertine, adored by his fortress-soldiers already for feeding them nourishingly.

Admiral William Sydney Smith is an unprincipled pirate who dreamed of becoming, but never reached the new Francis Drake.

The Duke of Wellington is a sleek gentleman, erudite leader of a gang of drunks and robbers.

Field Marshal Blucher is the Prussian Junker, who took charge of a pack of embittered idlers, who are as poor as he is.




But after all, it was they who fell to cope with the indomitable Napoleon's genius. However, after each lost, more precisely, not won a battle, with the exception of Waterloo, Napoleon showed a truly wonderful rebirth and tried to quickly "return the debt" to the offender. Judge for yourself - after lifting the siege of the fortress of Saint-Jean d'Acre, they completely defeated the army of the Turkish Sultan, who landed at Abukir, without breaking Bennigsen at Eylau, Napoleon soon crushed him near Friedland, after Aspern follows Wahram, after hard failures 1812 - an impressive start to the next campaign, and after Leipzig - Hanau, finally, in 1814, the emperor already in France literally responds with a blow to every blow of the Allies.

The true greatness of Napoleon as a commander is revealed precisely in his amazing ability to turn defeat into victory. It is possible to take the liberty to assert that Napoleon is greater in his defeats than in victories. Even the most brilliant. It will be all the more fascinating with readers to consistently analyze the causes and consequences of each of the failures of the great master of military affairs. We will not intentionally mention in the preface all the 12 failures of Napoleon. Let at least some of them be a discovery for you.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 4 March 2019 06: 08
    +1
    Well, this "genius" finished badly! It's a pity a lot of ours died before that ...
    1. sevtrash
      sevtrash 4 March 2019 07: 29
      +1
      Yet Napoleon did not lose on the battlefield. Lost battle, even company is not all. But outside of them - despite his genius, he could not create a viable state / empire with allies that would benefit from the union. The genius in military affairs lost on the political field.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 4 March 2019 08: 05
        +3
        Quote: sevtrash
        All the same, Napoleon did not lose on the battlefield.

        And is Hitler the same? belay

        The capture of Paris in the 1814 year is the final battle of the Napoleonic campaign of the 1814 year, after which the Emperor Napoleon abdicated the throne. 19 (31) March at 2 hours of the night capitulation of Paris has been signed.


        I just don’t understand why we are celebrating Borodino’s day and not celebrating the victory day of 31 on March 1914? Following this logic, it would be natural to say, say, the battle of Smolensk and not mark the 9 of May 1945, but it doesn’t occur to anyone, so why are we celebrating Borodino and not celebrating the victory over Napoleon? Both that and in another war ended with the surrender of our enemies. Why are we NOT celebrating the surrender of France and celebrating the surrender of Germany?

        ps (for those from "Urengoy")
        Act of Unconditional Surrender of the German Armed Forces was signed by representatives of the High Command of the Wehrmacht, the High Command of the Western Allies and the Soviet Union on 7 in May 02: 41 Central European Time in Reims (France). The surrender of Nazi Germany took effect on May 8 in 23: 01 Central European Time (May 9 in 01: 01 Moscow Time).
        1. BAI
          BAI 4 March 2019 09: 47
          0
          Why are we NOT celebrating the surrender of France and celebrating the surrender of Germany?

          We celebrate only Soviet victories. It happened so historically. And tsarist Russia could not celebrate the victory over France, because after the Congress of Vienna there was "cordial agreement" - peace, friendship, rock and roll. God forbid - no offense.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 4 March 2019 10: 16
            0
            Quote: BAI
            We celebrate only Soviet victories.

            Was the battle of Borodino under the Soviet regime? laughing

            Quote: BAI
            And tsarist Russia could not celebrate the victory in France

            But not a victory near Borodino means possible? laughing
            1. Prometey
              Prometey 4 March 2019 18: 53
              +5
              Quote: Boris55
              Was the battle of Borodino under the Soviet regime?

              Is Borodino a victory?
          2. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 5 March 2019 11: 32
            0
            BAI Yesterday, 09:47 AM NEW
            Why are we NOT celebrating the surrender of France and celebrating the surrender of Germany?

            We celebrate only Soviet victories. It happened so historically. And tsarist Russia could not celebrate the victory over France, because after the Congress of Vienna there was "cordial agreement" - peace, friendship, rock and roll. God forbid - no hard feelings

            And also loans, loans, loans ....
        2. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 4 March 2019 09: 51
          0
          Quote: Boris55
          I just don’t understand why we are celebrating Borodino’s day and not celebrating Victory Day on March 31, 1914?

          In general, the "Day of the Battle of Borodino" is not a public holiday celebrated annually. We don't even celebrate 17.09.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX, the day of the capture of Tehran ...
        3. wolf20032
          wolf20032 5 March 2019 16: 46
          0
          I don’t understand - who and what celebrates in the so-called Borodin day?
      2. Altona
        Altona 4 March 2019 09: 15
        +1
        Quote: sevtrash
        Yet Napoleon did not lose on the battlefield. Lost battle, even company is not all.

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        You can win all the battles, but lose the war. A la ger com a la ger.
    2. sivuch
      sivuch 4 March 2019 12: 20
      +1
      And how else could he have ended if his roof went from previous successes? Starting with the Pirineevs, there are only mistakes, moreover, fundamental ones that cannot be corrected by tactical successes.
  2. Basil50
    Basil50 4 March 2019 06: 30
    -3
    Duplication of * genius * Napoleon is akin to what is happening in Europe today in relation to Hitler. Too many analogies. The Germans have already found so much positive in bringing the Nazis to power, from the greatness of Germany to the satiety of every German and much more.
    The remaining Caucasians, as it became possible, are working out the theme of the * liberation campaign ... * * into * wild RUSSIA * with might and main.
    Sound familiar?
    The Caucasians are again knocked down in a flock but already under the control of the Americans, and without hesitation they are OFFICIALLY again preparing to dismember RUSSIA.
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 4 March 2019 07: 24
      +2
      Quote: Vasily50
      Caucasians again knocked into a flock but already under the control of the Americans

      And their history does not teach anything ...
      Other nonsense
      It does not help us become smarter.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 4 March 2019 08: 01
      +4
      Quote: Vasily50
      Duplication of * genius * Napoleon is akin to what is happening in Europe today in relation to Hitler. Too many analogies. .....
      Interestingly, the people worshiped and idolized Napoleon. Despite the fact that at the end of his reign, teenagers and old men were drafted into the army. A huge layer of adult men passed away .. Do the French still consider Napoleon the Great? After all, it was the 200th anniversary of the war of 1812. I once read that it was not said very much .....
      And about Russia ---- yes, there will always be those who wish to enrich themselves at the expense of our country and tear pieces from it.
    3. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2019 08: 42
      +2
      Quote: Vasily50
      Caucasians again knocked into a flock but already under the control of the Americans

      ------------------------
      The Europeans have long been "huddled in a pack" called the EU. And the "control of the Americans" is slipping there, as you can see for yourself on the example of the SP-2 torpedoing. The EU today is more needed by Germany, which has more than 40% (!!) of the market of its goods in the EU, up to wine and olive oil, which is cheaper than Greek, Spanish and Italian. Today the Americans want to reformat the EU, knocking out Germany and France as the main players and putting, for example, Poland as the main one. For old lady Merkel and German "merkelism" in general, this is literally like death.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 4 March 2019 09: 39
        -1
        Quote: Altona
        ....... Today the Americans want to reformat the EU, knocking Germany and France out of it as the main players and putting, for example, Poland as the main one. For old woman Merkel and German "Merkelism" in general, this is literally like death.
        Yes, states need a united Europe ---- but weak. England --- pulled out of the EU.
        Fantasies about united Europe have always been, Russia was an obstacle to this by the very fact of its existence.
      2. 16329
        16329 5 March 2019 11: 20
        0
        Never seen German olive oil, even in Germany
    4. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 4 March 2019 09: 35
      +2
      A few words in defense of Bonopart. Napoleon would never have fought with Russia if Alexander 1 fulfilled the agreements after the Tilsit Peace Treaty and after the Erfurt agreements. So the War of 1812 was the first manifestation of the "Peace Enforcement" War. That is why Napoleon walked to Moscow and not to St. Petersburg. At school, for some reason, this fact is carefully avoided. And if you remember that Paul, also slandered by Western history, was an ally of Napoleon
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 4 March 2019 09: 39
        +2
        Quote: Rey_ka
        So the War of 1812 was the first manifestation of the "Peace Enforcement" War. That's why Napoleon walked to Moscow and not to Petersburg

        Expand the thought, otherwise it is not clear.
      2. Vasiliev Yu
        Vasiliev Yu 4 March 2019 10: 01
        0
        A few words in defense of Bonopart. Napoleon would never have fought with Russia if Alexander 1 fulfilled the agreements after the Tilsit Peace Treaty and after the Erfurt agreements. So the War of 1812 was the first manifestation of the "Peace Enforcement" War. That is why Napoleon walked to Moscow and not to St. Petersburg. At school, for some reason, this fact is carefully avoided. And if you remember that Paul, also slandered by Western history, was an ally of Napoleon

        And the fact that Napoleon was not accepted into the Russian army in his youth, is this his defeat or luck?
      3. sivuch
        sivuch 4 March 2019 12: 17
        -1
        And why on earth would Alexander have to comply with an agreement that was forced upon him and was unprofitable for Russia and dangerous for him personally? (they still know that in Russia autocracy was limited in its own way)
  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich 4 March 2019 07: 54
    -4
    Bonapartism became surprisingly popular in Russia, as did the cult of Napoleon himself, although it sometimes takes on the character of a painful mania.
    belay Where is it? Who:? Facts would be ...

    You may notice that even in most FRANCE today Napoleon is neither a hero to follow nor an object of adoration. The textbooks mention his social, economic, administrative reforms; no one admires the military "genius". This "genius" left France without a male population and ruined.

    Napoleon had one failure: he took on what he was not capable of in principle: to subjugate everything and everything to himself, not having the appropriate resources for this. Lucky and talented, but -adventurer.

    Field Marshal Kutuzov - the old master, decrepit satrap and libertineadored their serfs-soldiers already for satisfyingly nourishing them.

    Why duplicate gossip?

    And other opinions on the Web about great Russian commander-failed to find? Or does the author agree with this, since he does not give another? belay
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 4 March 2019 08: 34
      +5
      Quote: Olgovich
      Where is it? Who:? Facts would be ...

      Do you not know that the entire elite of that time spoke French, but no boom in Russian, because of what, falling into the hands of the partisans, many lost their lives? And by the way, the current "elite" is not much different from that.

      1. Altona
        Altona 4 March 2019 08: 55
        +6
        Quote: Boris55
        You don’t know what the whole elite of that time spoke French, but not boom in Russian because of which many people fell into the hands of partisans?

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        The then elite was exactly the same colonial in relation to its people as the current one. The last name of our last king is not just Romanov, but Gottorp. Although now monarchists like Andrei will attack and with their sabers will beat off the tsar-priest and his henchmen. laughing
        1. 16329
          16329 5 March 2019 11: 30
          0
          Well, this elite, who spoke French and was, as you say colonial, perished in the mortal attack of the cavalry guards at Austerlitz, died under French kernels and bombs at Borodino on a par with ordinary soldiers; Just think what it is to stand in line under fire, closing the lines, and the officers in front, read about the losses of the officers. And the generals under Borodino, even much later 100 years after the Napoleonic wars in World War I, when they were attacked by cavalry guards of German positions, their colonel went ahead and cursed in French, so you got excited about the colonial elite
          This elite built a giant empire, left us a golden age culture and much more.
          1. Earthshaker
            Earthshaker 7 March 2019 23: 24
            +1
            Do not confuse the nobles from the sword and the nobles from the mantle. The former received the titles of military service to the sovereign, the latter bought titles occupying positions of responsibility. The former were often not at all rich by the standards of the nobility and were not in isolation from the people. The latter were just an elite and plotted for the sake of expanding their spheres of influence.
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 4 March 2019 08: 57
        -2
        Quote: Boris55
        You do not know that the whole elite of that time

        If you read the article. YOU WILL RECOGNIZE that this is TODAY:
        the First World War died out, after it - the Second, nThe era of nuclear confrontation arose, and interest in Napoleonic military art did not subside. He only flared up with renewed vigor. Bonapartism became surprisingly popular in Russia, as did the cult of Napoleon himself, although he sometimes acquires the nature of painful mania.
    2. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2019 08: 36
      +3
      Quote: Olgovich
      You may notice that even in FRANCE itself, Napoleon today is neither a hero to follow, nor an object of adoration.

      --------------------------------
      To make sure that Napoleon has firmly taken a place in the hearts of the French, just look at the map of Paris. Large, famous streets and avenues, such as Kleber Avenue, Friedland Avenue, Rivoli Avenue, Jena Avenue, Lannes Boulevard, Ailo Avenue, Wagram Avenue, are named after either Napoleonic generals or battles in which the Napoleonic army participated. No one renamed them after Napoleon was exiled. Many monuments, such as the column on Place Vendome, which is crowned with a statue of the emperor, or the monument to Marshal Ney, the “Prince of Moscow”, on Por Royal Square, also recall the times of Napoleon.

      In addition, final exams are also invented by Napoleon, like so much more. So, Andrey, you, as usual, strive to trample other people's merits with passionate dances. laughing
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 4 March 2019 09: 06
        -4
        Quote: Altona
        In addition, final exams are also invented by Napoleon, like so much more. So, Andrey, you, as usual, strive to trample strangers with passionate dances merit

        What .... merit? A ruined, deserted France, a loser invader of Europe?
        I repeat for tankers:
        The textbooks mention him social, economic, managerial reforms, a military "genius" -no one is enthusiastic. .


        this is the attitude today.

        PS exams, yes, before him, there never existed anywhere and never lol
        1. Altona
          Altona 4 March 2019 09: 09
          +4
          Quote: Olgovich
          What .... merit? A ruined, deserted France, a loser invader of Europe?

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          Yes, yes, Andrey, your favorite song "The land is empty without you, how can I live for a few minutes." laughing laughing As for "admiring", then in the light of gay propaganda, what will not be interpreted in a new way. laughing France honors its heroes, all the wars that she waged.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 March 2019 10: 52
            -1
            Quote: Altona
            Yes, yes, Andrey, your favorite song "Has become empty without you land, how can I live for a few minutes. "

            How so? You are, so it’s not empty yes lol
            Quote: Altona
            About "admire" then in the light gay propaganda why not just try on a new one.

            Falling .... request THIS - here at what ?! belay
            Quote: Altona
            France honors its heroes, all the wars that she waged.

            Today’s attitude to Napoleon in France (and he is not a military hero for her), do not invent, but read the French press and textbooks.
            1. Altona
              Altona 4 March 2019 13: 49
              -1
              Quote: Olgovich
              Today’s attitude to Napoleon in France (and he is not a military hero for her), do not invent, but read the French press and textbooks.

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              Mdaa, Andrey. You probably have Bastille Day always in vain. laughing laughing

              Then why is it imperial mounted equestrian dragoons that always adorn the Bastille Day parade?
        2. podymych
          4 March 2019 09: 35
          0
          Sorry generously, but you have to repeat. Historical assessments and now, despite all the elaboration of the topic, are surprisingly one-sided. In order to understand this, it is enough to get acquainted with the most striking characteristics drawn from the worldwide network that modern nouveau Napoleonologists give the winners their idol.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 March 2019 11: 00
            0
            Quote: podymych
            Historical assessments and now, despite all the elaboration of the topic, are surprisingly one-sided,

            this is normal.
            I’m talking about the GENERAL attitude in French society today to the WAR acts of Napoleon.
            Quote: podymych
            In order to understand this, it is enough to get acquainted with the most extracted from the global network vivid of the characteristicsthat modern newly minted Napoleonologists give the winners of their idol.

            bright libel on Kutuzov-like old libertine. not worth ANYTHING.
            Which one. I am convinced, WITHOUT an appropriate refutation, it was not worth it to bring ......
        3. 16329
          16329 5 March 2019 11: 42
          0
          Napoleon means a lot for modern Europe, France still lives according to Napoleon’s code, somewhat modernized accordingly, The borders of many European states and their provinces were outlined along the borders of those kingdoms that Napoleon created for his relatives, In general, Napoleon’s Empire is the first European attempt integration with the creation of a single market, customs system, etc., and of course the idea of ​​national greatness, victory
          The army idolized the Emperors, Napoleon is truly the central figure in Western European history in the first half of the 19th century.
          All the more magnificent is our victory over the Napoleonic invasion (the reasons for this war, the British intrigues and the continental blockade, Russia's dependence on agricultural exports and hemp to England must be discussed separately)
      2. BAI
        BAI 4 March 2019 09: 56
        +1
        Here is the opinion of an ordinary Frenchman. Jean louis. Doctor:
        Several personalities were combined in Napoleon: firstly, he was a young general of the French Revolution who won battles and very quickly became the number one person in the state, first consul, then emperor. Secondly, it is the great organizer and creator of the Civil Code, creator of the new France, creator of the new administrative structure of the country. Thirdly, the conqueror who wanted to conquer all of Europe from Spain to Russia.

        I have a double attitude towards Napoleon, on the one hand, I am proud to be a compatriot of Bonaparte at the beginning of his career, when he was a young general of the French Revolution, defending the ideals of the Revolution. But on the other hand, I don’t feel such pride, knowing that Bonaparte became a serious conqueror, who fought with neighboring countries and became an arrogant dictator who committed atrocities in Russia, Spain and even Italy ...

        About atrocities in Italy and Spain is a very interesting idea, it seems that we haven’t covered it anywhere?
        1. Vasiliev Yu
          Vasiliev Yu 4 March 2019 10: 16
          0
          About atrocities in Italy and Spain is a very interesting idea, it seems that we haven’t covered it anywhere?

          I liked the Spanish film 'Brooke. Challenge '2010 Fascinating.
        2. Olgovich
          Olgovich 4 March 2019 11: 05
          -1
          Quote: BAI
          Secondly, it is the great organizer and creator of the Civil Code, creator of the new France, creator of the new administrative structure of the country

          Nobody denies this. As the merits of it, as the great transformer of Paris.
          Quote: BAI
          About atrocities in Italy and Spain is a very interesting idea, it seems that we haven’t covered it anywhere?

          In Spain, it was worse than in Russia, much has been written about this ....
        3. Tavrik
          Tavrik 5 March 2019 01: 02
          -1
          In Spain, the massacre was hefty. Spanish Catholic fanaticism against "freedom, equality, brotherhood". The partisans committed atrocities as best they could. The French did not lag behind either. I didn't understand about Italy.
    3. podymych
      4 March 2019 09: 15
      +4
      So the article says that all this is nothing more than gossip. Kutuzov - a man of his era, with all the flaws and virtues.
      But how do you generally think that if "Mein Kampf" is properly "untied", it will be a replication of Hitler's cannibalistic ideas?
      By the way, Lenin first of all read the newspapers of political opponents, and said - that "his own" will write, I already know.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 4 March 2019 11: 14
        -1
        Quote: podymych
        So the article says that all this no more than gossip.

        that this is gossip, NOT a word is said, it is said about "bright" characteristics, which, you see, means something else:
        it is enough to get acquainted with the most vivid of the characteristics which modern newly minted Napoleonologists give the winners of their idol.

        Quote: podymych
        But how do you generally think that if "Mein Kampf" is properly "untied", it will be a replication of Hitler's cannibalistic ideas?

        If it will be uncovered
        Quote: podymych
        exposure of Hitler's cannibalistic ideas
        -for a larger circle of people.
    4. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 4 March 2019 09: 54
      +1
      Quote: Olgovich
      Where is it? Who:? Facts would be ...

      Apparently I mean RI, it seems like it was popular ...

      We all look at Napoleon;
      Biped creatures millions
      One tool for us ...
      Pushkin
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 4 March 2019 11: 21
        -1
        Quote: Puncher
        Apparently I mean RI, it seems like it was popular.

        worthy of nuclear time is mentioned ...
        Quote: Puncher
        Apparently I mean RI, it seems like it was popular ...

        We all look at Napoleon;
        Biped creatures millions
        One tool for us ...
        Pushkin

        This is yes.
        This work Lermontov I knew by heart:

        Napoleon

        Thought


        In the wrong hour, between day and darkness,
        When the fog turns blue over the water
        In the hour of sinful thoughts, visions, secrets and deeds,
        Of which the beam I would not want to see
        And cover the darkness, whose shadow, whose image is there,
        On the shore, looking down to the waves,
        Stands near the Cross
        He is not alive. But also not a dream:
        This sharp look with an elevated forehead
        And two hands folded with a cross.

        Waves babble before him, and run,
        And again they come, and they hit the rocks.
        Like light sails, clouds
        Rushing over the sea from afar.
        And an unknown shadow is looking
        To the east, where a new day squeals, -
        There is France! - there is the edge of her native
        And glory trail, perhaps hidden by the mist;
        There, in the midst of the war, her days were rushing ...
        ABOUT! why did they end so! ..

        Sorry, glory! cheated friend
        You are dangerous, but a wonderful, powerful sound;
        And the scepter ... Napoleon forgot about you .....
        1. Grim Reaper
          Grim Reaper 4 March 2019 14: 57
          0
          There you go, and an article about Napoleon, and already Kutuzov, was dragged along with Hitler. Interesting.....:)
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 5 March 2019 07: 18
            -2
            Quote: Grim Reaper
            Here you are, and an article about Napoleon, and already Kutuzov, was dragged

            Article read at least: there it is said about Kutuzov and how.
            1. Grim Reaper
              Grim Reaper 5 March 2019 17: 07
              0
              Quote: Olgovich
              Quote: Grim Reaper
              Here you are, and an article about Napoleon, and already Kutuzov, was dragged

              Article read at least: there it is said about Kutuzov and how.

              Perhaps you misunderstood me. I just noted that, as usual, comments slide far from the topic of the article.
              And, yes, I did not expect rudeness from you. The minus is not mine.
    5. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 4 March 2019 09: 54
      +2
      Quote: Olgovich
      ....... You can see that even in most FRANCE today Napoleon is neither a hero to follow nor an object of adoration. The textbooks mention his social, economic, administrative reforms; no one admires the military "genius". ........
      ........... "Field Marshal Kutuzov" ......... Why replicate gossip? ......
      And other opinions on the Web about great Russian commander-failed to find? Or does the author agree with this, since he does not give another? belay

      In this case, I almost agree with the opinion Olgovich, which is very rare.
      Those innovations that Napoleon introduced are inextricably linked with the Great French Revolution. At least exams. Both graduation and introductory. Today I tried to find something unexpected about him in France now .... I need to clarify.
  4. Loess
    Loess 4 March 2019 08: 43
    +2
    Hmm ... So "Mannerheim's board" is a shame and a provocation, and a series of articles on VO about Napoleon, timed to coincide with his anniversary date, is this normal? And for me, so one is worth the other. For the harm to Russia from Napoleon was much greater and a series of articles about him could be timed to the end of the foreign campaign of the Russian army, but not to his birthday. I hope this cycle is not planned for the jubilee of the possessed corporal.
    1. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2019 08: 52
      +4
      Quote: Less
      So "Mannerheim's board" is a shame and a provocation, and the cycle of articles on VO about Napoleon, timed to coincide with his anniversary date, is this normal?

      ----------------------
      Napoleon is a historical character first of all, and history needs to be studied. Nobody calls to put memorials to him.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 4 March 2019 08: 58
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        Napoleon is a historical character above all

        Is Hitler not yet? But what about Kaiser? Is he a historical character or not yet?

        If the article was about the 12 victories of the Russian army over Napoleon, it would be much more interesting than justifying the next conqueror of our lands.
        1. Altona
          Altona 4 March 2019 09: 05
          +2
          Quote: Boris55
          Now, if there were an article of 12 victories of the Russian army over Napoleon, it would be much more interesting than justifying the next conqueror of our lands.

          ------------------------------
          Why "justification"? 12 victories are hard to count. There is only one battle of Borodino, which Kutuzov decided to give, can be viewed in such a context, and then not as a victory for anyone. Because there was no winner in the battle, it was just a cruel hack, where "the Russians were worthy to be invincible" (Napoleon I Bonaparte). And "If I had Cossacks, I would have conquered the whole world." As you can see, Napoleon had a high opinion of the Russian army.
          1. podymych
            4 March 2019 09: 10
            +3
            Sorry, but the deal is not limited to Borodino. Not only did the Russians, starting from Suvorov, beaten all subordinates and allies of Napoleon regularly. So it was still Preussisch-Eylau, a series of victories in 1812, including Red and Berezina, so that Napoleon’s propaganda did not try to prove there, Katzbach and Leipzig, finally, victories of 1814 of the year, which were completed with a victory near Paris - although there Boni himself and was not
            1. Altona
              Altona 4 March 2019 09: 13
              -2
              Quote: podymych
              So there was still Price-Eilau,

              ------------------
              It is about the Patriotic War only, not the battles of the Russian army as an ally of anyone on foreign territory.
            2. Tavrik
              Tavrik 5 March 2019 00: 56
              0
              List of associates and subordinates - in the studio! Suvorov’s Swiss campaign - yes, of course. At the same time, think about what Suvorov did there at all? Napoleon threatened us from there, being in Egypt?
              About Berezina just do not. There was a bit different than is commonly believed. And in the year 14 there were not only victories, but also defeats. Read about Fer Champenoise. In short, the opponents were worthy. But with a united Europe, even he could not control it.
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 4 March 2019 09: 11
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            12 victories are difficult to count.

            Logically, Napoleon’s every failure is someone’s victory.

            Quote: Altona
            There is only one battle of Borodino, which Kutuzov decided to give

            However, the title was not assigned to him by Borodinsky, but Smolensky.
            1. Altona
              Altona 4 March 2019 09: 17
              -2
              Quote: Boris55
              Napoleon had a high opinion of the Russian army, but does the author have the same opinion? I doubt.

              --------------------------
              The author’s task is not to praise anyone, but an objective analysis of the Napoleonic period.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 4 March 2019 09: 30
                +2
                Quote: Altona
                The author’s task is not to praise anyone, but an objective analysis of the Napoleonic period.

                Why Napoleonic, and not the period of Alexander the First? Why is Napoleon's failure, and not our victories over him?
                1. Altona
                  Altona 4 March 2019 09: 33
                  0
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Why Napoleonic, and not the period of Alexander the First? Why is Napoleon's failure, and not our victories over him?

                  ----------------------
                  Boris, this is about Napoleon, and not about Alexander the First. By the way, some stupid publishing house has already placed a portrait of his brother Nicholas on the book about Alexander, apparently the exam has already completely stuck in education. Kutuzov’s victories over Napoleon will not go anywhere, they will remain. Yes, and the figure of Napoleon itself is very tragic, you just know little about him.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 4 March 2019 10: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Altona
                    By the way, some stupid publishing house has already placed a portrait of his brother Nicholas on the book about Alexander, apparently the exam has already completely stuck in education.


                    Here is the book itself by the way.
                2. Hantengri
                  Hantengri 4 March 2019 19: 31
                  +1
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Why Napoleonic, and not the period of Alexander the First?

                  Probably because it was Bonya, and not Sanya, who painted in Europe so that little seemed to anyone.
                3. podymych
                  April 10 2019 14: 22
                  0
                  Yes, because the cycle about the failure of Napoleon - to his 250 anniversary
              2. Tavrik
                Tavrik 5 March 2019 00: 49
                0
                An objective analysis of that era is a very dangerous thing. Staples may not stand.
        2. Altona
          Altona 4 March 2019 09: 11
          0
          Quote: Boris55
          Is Hitler not yet? But what about Kaiser? Is he a historical character or not yet?

          -------------------------------
          Hitler pursued a Nazi policy and did not hide it. As for Kaiser, it’s so interesting in general how he dragged his cousin Nikolashka into the war.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 4 March 2019 09: 21
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            Hitler pursued a Nazi policy and did not hide it. About Kaiser

            Clear. Hitler and Kaiser on the way to recording historical characters ... And what does this give us, in addition to the opportunity to forget and justify all the atrocities that they committed on our land?

            At least in this century, I have not seen a single article, except for the fire of Moscow, how the advancing and retreating army of Napoleon behaved in relation to our people. Will there not be the same oblivion after we write the Kaiser and Hitler into historical characters? And what is the next step - into the mythical ... This is how the averton window works, and then the next "Napoleon" comes to us for a new portion of lyuli ...
            1. Altona
              Altona 4 March 2019 09: 25
              +2
              Quote: Boris55
              Clear. Hitler and Kaiser on the way to recording historical characters ... And what does this give us, in addition to the opportunity to forget and justify all the atrocities that they committed on our land?

              -------------------------------
              Boris, are you all right? Where did I talk about "justifying atrocities", some mythical "opportunity to forget"? Do not forget that Napoleon, like your beloved Putin, came to power on the wave of the revolution. And your favorite Putin is also quite a Napoleon who puts his people in power, despite the fact that they don't even have talents.
              PS Kaiser, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Caesar - all of them are historical characters and they need to be studied exactly how they achieved power and what their lesson is for humanity as a whole with all the negative aspects.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 4 March 2019 09: 33
                -2
                Quote: Altona
                Where I spoke about "justifying atrocities"

                Once you have translated Napoleon into a historical character, this is the first step to oblivion.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 4 March 2019 09: 35
                  +1
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Once you have translated Napoleon into a historical character, this is the first step to oblivion.

                  ----------------------
                  You have strange thoughts about "oblivion". Read history books, Boris. And about Count Dracula too.
              2. Boris55
                Boris55 4 March 2019 09: 39
                0
                Quote: Altona
                PS Kaiser, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Napoleon, Alexander the Great, Caesar - all of them are historical characters and they need to be studied exactly how they achieved power and what their lesson is for humanity as a whole with all the negative aspects.

                They persuaded, only we need to consider them. With theirs - let theirs be considered, otherwise the hour itself is uneven. Let's get some water (information) from the goat's hoof and become the goats themselves.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 4 March 2019 10: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Boris55
                  They persuaded, only we need to consider them. With theirs - let theirs be considered, otherwise the hour itself is uneven. Let's get some water (information) from the goat's hoof and become the goats themselves.

                  ---------------------------
                  Boris, there was such an academician, his name was Sergei Petrovich Kapitsa. He said that there is no Russian, German, American, French and other stories. There is one history of mankind and historical events must be viewed in the light of world history in order to understand them. And not to consider these same events from one angle, moreover, propaganda, as you call. In this case, the Germans will have a "series of victories", the French will have a "series of victories", and the Americans will have a "series of victories." And in general, everyone won all of them out of context. For some reason, I agree with academician Kapitsa more than with you. About "goat hooves" this is to Andrei Olgovich. All his rich horizons are filled with alternative and fantastic versions of historical events.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 4 March 2019 11: 57
                    0
                    Quote: Altona
                    Boris, there was such an academician, his name was Sergey Petrovich Kapitsa. He said that there are no Russian, German, American, French or other stories. There is one history of mankind and historical events must be considered in the light of world history in order to understand them.

                    History is one, but there is no single "textbook" of history for all mankind - there is the history of each state separately (except for us, we do not have a single history textbook) and as long as this state of affairs persists, that is, the need to defend our history, and not advertise the history of our enemies.

                    What the "teaching" of different history in the same Ukraine leads to, we all see perfectly well - "farmers" drive "urban".

                    I am with both hands for the creation of such a textbook for all of humanity, but I am afraid that the rulers of all countries will object.
                    1. Altona
                      Altona 4 March 2019 12: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: Boris55
                      I respect him, but I do not agree with this, if only for the reason that there is no single history textbook for all of mankind - there is a history of each state separately and so far this state of affairs will continue, that is, the need to defend its history, and not to advertise the history of our enemies.

                      ---------------------------------
                      Academician Kapitsa for your information was not a propagandist and your agreement would not have interested him at all. Academics study the laws of human development if you are somehow not in the know. All this sociogenesis, anthropogenesis and so on. And in order to objectively evaluate the course of events, the scientist will study everything, do not worry. Because in your pseudo-patriotic fervor you forget about Austerlitz, about the sky of which the great Leo Tolstoy wrote in the eyes of Andrei Bolkonsky. Without Austerlitz, there will be no Waterloo, and generally the entire genesis of the Napoleonic wars, which left no less imprint on humanity than two world wars in the XNUMXth century. But the Patriotic War generally shook Russian society, gave a part of society a charge of patriotism. As well as the spirit of freedom and Jacobinism.
                      PS About teaching history. I placed my collection of soldiers, more than half of them are soldiers of the Russian army. And when they write here about "100 years of the army of the Republic of Belarus" I want to send the commentator a photo of a soldier of 1812 of the Belarusian regiment of the Russian Imperial Army. The same is with the Ukrainian army. I have both Cossacks and Donets, but in the Russian army. wink hi
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 4 March 2019 12: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: Altona
                        and your agreement would not interest him at all

                        I have already corrected my text. History is one but presented in different ways.
                      2. Hantengri
                        Hantengri 4 March 2019 19: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: Boris55
                        History is one but presented in different ways.

                        For propaganda purposes. And it is precisely for this that you are now advocating! Is not it?
                      3. Boris55
                        Boris55 5 March 2019 07: 51
                        0
                        Quote: HanTengri
                        And it is precisely for this that you are now advocating! Is not it?

                        No. A single "tutorial" must be taken by everyone at the same time. In the 90s, we abandoned our view of our history. As a result, we got Kolyuizingoya.

                        History is the second priority of governing humanity:

                        “It is known that a person who has forgotten his history, the history of his Fatherland, is like a tree that has lost its roots. And what will happen if a whole nation forgets its history or believes in some historical myth imposed on it taking into account the interests of external hostile forces? George Orwell when He wrote: "He who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past. "Rewriting the history of a people inevitably leads to a change in its future. That is why the arrival of new power is always accompanied by a rewriting of history, but at the same time the rulers themselves do not understand how they are used in the dark. This is very clearly manifested today in the former Union republics that broke away from the USSR. Therefore, one must always remember that history never teaches anything, it only punishes for ignorance of its lessons. "
        3. BAI
          BAI 4 March 2019 09: 43
          +1
          If the article was about 12 victories of the Russian army over Napoleon

          Is the figure justified by something or is it a figure of speech?
          1. BAI
            BAI 4 March 2019 10: 02
            +1
            Why am I - in the article they "know" something, but they hide it, but to what extent do they think correctly?
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 4 March 2019 10: 19
            +1
            Quote: BAI
            Is the figure justified by something or is it a figure of speech?

            This is the title of the article, no more.
          3. podymych
            4 March 2019 12: 21
            0
            And you did not try to count? Then read the cycle - learn
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 5 March 2019 07: 57
              +1
              Quote: podymych
              And you did not try to count? Then read the cycle - learn

              You better tell us about our victories over the French. Let the French let the snot about the poor Frenchmen. Don’t belittle us and try to put us on our knees!
      2. Loess
        Loess 4 March 2019 08: 59
        0
        Quote: Altona
        Napoleon is a historical character

        Mannerheim also left a mark in history, but if you read my comment carefully, you will see that I do not consider the event relevant to which the series of articles timed to coincide, but NOT a question of studying history.
        1. Altona
          Altona 4 March 2019 09: 06
          +2
          Quote: Less
          what I consider the event not appropriate

          ------------------------
          Who knows what you think? It’s a normal event to stir up the emperor’s affairs.
          1. Loess
            Loess 4 March 2019 09: 12
            -3
            Quote: Altona
            Who knows what you think?

            Rude please? So to me your opinion is exactly the same as to you before mine. It is not clear only why you then entered into a polemic with me.
            1. Altona
              Altona 4 March 2019 09: 21
              +1
              Quote: Less
              Rude please? So to me your opinion is exactly the same as to you before mine. It is not clear only why you then entered into a polemic with me.

              ---------------------
              What exactly did you get nasty with? Or do you consider your opinion to be the truth in the highest instance? I do not enter into polemics with you, because I am interested in all historical characters and in any context. And Napoleon is interesting as a character. Therefore, one-sided attacks on the article in the style of "here he is like Hitler, here he are" are incomprehensible. Napoleon was an imperial and wanted to expand the empire, and for this he only wanted to go east.
              1. Loess
                Loess 4 March 2019 09: 59
                -2
                Quote: Altona
                Therefore, one-sided attacks on the article in the style of "but he is like Hitler, here he is" are incomprehensible. Napoleon was an imperial and wanted to expand the empire, and for this he only wanted to go east.

                It is completely to you to dodge as in a frying pan. Do not skip the topic - in my comment there was not a word about the Imperials, liberals or Makhnovists. And there was only the topic of the article and the date to which it is dated, everything else is just your speculation. Including one-sidedness.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 4 March 2019 10: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: Less
                  It is completely to you to dodge as in a frying pan. Do not skip the topic - in my comment there was not a word about the Imperials, liberals or Makhnovists. And there was only the topic of the article and the date to which it is dated, everything else is just your speculation. Including one-sidedness.

                  ----------------------
                  Now you are rude with your passages about the pans, apparently they themselves are already too. I answered your question.
    2. BAI
      BAI 4 March 2019 09: 39
      +4
      But what now and not to study the troubled times, nor the Mongol-Tatar invasion? I’m silent about the Crimean War and the REV.
    3. igordok
      igordok 4 March 2019 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: Less
      So "Mannerheim's board" is a shame and a provocation, and the cycle of articles on VO about Napoleon, timed to coincide with his anniversary date, is this normal? And for me, so one is worth the other.

      There was a series of articles about Manerheim on VO, and there is nothing "criminal" about it. I have not seen any information about the "Napoleon board". Articles and monuments are two different things.
    4. Lamatinets
      Lamatinets 4 March 2019 12: 56
      +2
      DR Napoleon August 15, today March 4, is it too early to start, in your opinion, to celebrate?
  5. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 4 March 2019 08: 54
    +3
    The topic is interesting. I hope the sequel will be worthy good
  6. bistrov.
    bistrov. 4 March 2019 09: 05
    +1
    It is not clear why he climbed into Russia? I would sit in my "Europe" and everything would be fine.
    1. BAI
      BAI 4 March 2019 09: 41
      +1
      But from the series of articles we will find out (I hope). There were reasons. Including - personal nature.
  7. Prometey
    Prometey 4 March 2019 09: 08
    0
    Still, Napoleon had initiative and talented commanders who helped him gain victories, though there were only a few, but they were not in other armies. In the Russian army for all the time of the Napoleonic Wars, not a single significant commander was promoted, maybe except Bagration, but he still left the Suvorov army. Everyone else was mediocre. At the same time, apparently, the shortage of personnel in the tsarist army reached the point that the former commander of Napoleon, French general Moro, was appointed commander in chief of the Russian army.
    And there is only one fact so far - only one military leader managed to defeat Napoleon’s army - the Duke of Wellington at Waterloo. But then Napoleon was no longer a number of talented commanders, and the maneuvers of Marshal Pear smacked of betrayal.
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    2. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2019 09: 26
      +2
      Quote: Prometey
      staff deficit in the tsarist army

      -------------------
      Napoleon himself in his youth almost signed a contract with the Russian army.
    3. burigaz2010
      burigaz2010 4 March 2019 12: 40
      +2
      Prometey means in your Barclay Tolly was mediocrity? And Raevsky, Miloradovich, Ermolov, Kostenetsky? Also mediocrity?
      1. Prometey
        Prometey 4 March 2019 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: burigaz2010
        Prometey means in your Barclay Tolly was mediocrity? And Raevsky, Miloradovich, Ermolov, Kostenetsky? Also mediocrity?

        In general, yes. Or was one of them able to defeat at least one French corps or repeat the success of Marshals Lannes or Davout? But I repeat - it was not only the fate of the Russian army.
    4. 16329
      16329 5 March 2019 11: 56
      0
      Well, actually the British positions were broken, Bonaparte looked into the chimney, saw clouds of dust and decided that it was finally the Pear Division, now the “Guard forward and to Brussels” the emperor said, then they again handed him the courtyard pipe and he clearly saw the black uniforms of the Prussians. "Blucher, what a pity that I did not burn Berlin"
      So Blucher can also claim the title of winner of Napoleon
  8. DimanC
    DimanC 4 March 2019 09: 54
    0
    Well, yes, in a certain sense, Bonapartophilia in modern historiography exists. Although it’s high time to treat him more carefully
  9. bober1982
    bober1982 4 March 2019 10: 07
    -1
    I wonder why there is a cake Napoleon, and the cake Hitler - this is not, because these two characters are not much different from each other.
    Napoleon, this cute fat man who made a real barbarian invasion of the Christian countries of Europe, is still admired by all kinds of intellectuals.
    1. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2019 10: 29
      +1
      Quote: bober1982
      I wonder why there is a Napoleon cake

      ------------------------
      Napoleon cake, Napoleon cognac. This is all apparently timed to coincide with the anniversary of the defeat at Waterloo. And by the way, it can be distorted from "Neapolitan". By the way, Napoleon was a Corsican, about which many commentators apparently do not speak for lack of knowledge.
      1. Altona
        Altona 4 March 2019 10: 45
        +7
        By the way, about the "Napoleonic Wars". I've collected a small collection of about 100 soldiers, and it is on my shelf.

        1. burigaz2010
          burigaz2010 4 March 2019 12: 32
          +2
          I envy you fiercely! Well, Napoleon’s main mistake was that he went to war on Russia!
          1. Altona
            Altona 4 March 2019 12: 38
            +1
            Quote: burigaz2010
            I envy you fiercely!

            --------------------------
            Who do you envy?
            1. burigaz2010
              burigaz2010 4 March 2019 13: 57
              +2
              Welcomes you! I envy you! I have long wanted to collect such a collection, but it did not work out!
              1. Altona
                Altona 4 March 2019 14: 10
                +2
                Quote: burigaz2010
                I have long wanted to collect such a collection, but it did not work out!

                ---------------------
                Why didn’t it work out? Not everything is collected from me either. The horse is only Kutuzov, Napoleon is not there, there are still no dragoons of any horse, there is no Tsar Alexander, and 30 soldiers could not be found, most of them are Russians, less than half of the foreigners. That's all I found is on a shelf. There are still Stalin's soldiers standing aside several figures, there you can see the pilot, commissar, border guard, tanker. Expensive is actually a pleasure to collect tin miniatures.

                Here is the Cossack, and the Bashkir, and the militia, some sort of midshipman. hi

                Here, of course, the Scots, the piper and the shooter.

                This is from a different era, it is already closer to us. soldier


                Here Kutuzov himself is on a horse, in a white visor.
  10. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 4 March 2019 13: 43
    +4
    I read with pleasure, I wish the author every kind of creative success! Well, the muse there is more enjoyable :))))))
  11. arturpraetor
    arturpraetor 4 March 2019 15: 34
    +4
    But this cycle, perhaps, I will closely monitor. It is interesting what the author will say on this subject, therefore I wish him seven feet under the keel and a fair wind hi

    Oh, who else would have told about Karl Teshinsky (Teshensky) in detail. The character is very interesting, the only one from Austria at that time who does not cause very mixed (at best) feelings, just the same decoration of the Habsburg dynasty, which is usually forgotten ...
    1. podymych
      4 March 2019 21: 18
      +1
      You obviously mean Archduke Charles? So about him in the project will be mandatory. And about Aspern, here about Vagram will not be, more precisely only in the essay on Karl. Not too long have to wait
      1. arturpraetor
        arturpraetor 4 March 2019 21: 20
        +2
        Quote: podymych
        You obviously mean Archduke Charles?

        Yes, it is him. EMNIP, the only Austrian commander who won something against Napoleon - and this is not counting his large-scale organizational and reform activities.
        1. podymych
          4 March 2019 21: 29
          +1
          Dame necessarily photo of the monument to Charles in Vienna. EG Karl - this is not Down, Thrawn, Loudon. Even the names of field marshals of the era of Maria Theresa sound like a diagnosis. Although the fighters were professional

          By the way, you, as a connoisseur of the Spanish army, did not pay attention that Napoleon did not lose a single battle in the Pyrenees, but in the end did not win the war, although he took the throne to the throne
          1. arturpraetor
            arturpraetor 4 March 2019 22: 07
            +2
            Quote: podymych
            By the way, you, as a connoisseur of the Spanish army, did not pay attention that Napoleon did not lose a single battle in the Pyrenees, but in the end did not win the war, although he took the throne to the throne

            I did. But let's just say - Napoleon's "personal" campaign in the Pyrenees, against the backdrop of the entire war, looks like ... I don't even know. Napoleon stayed there for too little elementary time, not completing the matter under his personal leadership, only trying to "compensate for the moral damage" for Baylen and other defeats of the French army at the beginning of the conflict, after which he successfully left the troops and forgot that the war was not over. And without him, with the way the case was organized for "Pepe Bottles" and local French commanders, only by 1812 was it possible to minimize the resistance of the Spanish troops themselves, bringing them to an extreme, which could have been done in an additional month or two. Napoleon at the beginning of 1809. Such a frivolous attitude cost him dearly, he quickly brought all his other victorious campaigns to an end thanks to his personal presence, and here the burden, heavy losses, the diversion of a lot of troops to the theater ... And this despite the fact that in fact only Napoleon is responsible for the fact that Spain became a "hot spot" for the French, no one bothered to leave the puppet Carlos IV and Fernando VII on the throne. In short, I don't know what Napoleon was thinking about when he admitted a similar situation, but from the outside it looks brilliantly stupid, victories during the personal participation of the emperor in the conflict look more like a mockery of him request
  12. Wolf 1
    Wolf 1 4 March 2019 18: 34
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    Quote: Prometey
    Still, Napoleon had initiative and talented commanders who helped him gain victories, though there were only a few, but they were not in other armies. In the Russian army for all the time of the Napoleonic Wars, not a single significant commander was promoted, maybe except Bagration, but he still left the Suvorov army. Everyone else was mediocre. At the same time, apparently, the shortage of personnel in the tsarist army reached the point that the former commander of Napoleon, French general Moro, was appointed commander in chief of the Russian army.
    And there is only one fact so far - only one military leader managed to defeat Napoleon’s army - the Duke of Wellington at Waterloo. But then Napoleon was no longer a number of talented commanders, and the maneuvers of Marshal Pear smacked of betrayal.

    Yes, with such "mediocre" Russian generals Napoleon could have reached Kamchatka, don't you think?
    PS 10 thousand of Napoleon's soldiers "distracted" Blucher. Most likely, they were just not enough for Napoleon to win. So there is no need to glorify Wellington alone.
  13. bone1
    bone1 4 March 2019 19: 51
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    Wouldn't it be better for the "military review" to post Napoleon's memoirs in the e-mail? belay
  14. Tavrik
    Tavrik 4 March 2019 20: 21
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    Quote: Vasily50
    Duplication of * genius * Napoleon is akin to what is happening in Europe today in relation to Hitler. Too many analogies.

    What are the analogies? Two completely different eras and completely different figures. Well, perhaps, both men are male.
  15. Tavrik
    Tavrik 4 March 2019 21: 50
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    Oh, hooked on my sore subject ... I'll start in order.
    Being a "latent Bonapartist") with 33 years of experience and a student of Oleg Valerievich Sokolov, I will bring my "five kopecks" into the discussion.
    1. To a large extent, the figure of the emperor is distorted by those who defeated him (the history is written by the winners) and those who "fell under the hand" during his reign. After the Restoration, wanting to lick the new government or just make excuses for their deeds, many depicted the horrors of Napoleon. Hence a bunch of allegedly insane "quotes" of Napoleon on various topics, which he never said or wrote.
    2. Napoleon is not a "dove of peace", but also not such a crazy aggressor, dreaming of world domination, as is usually believed. The organizers of a number of wars were Great Britain, which saw France as an economic competitor and ... Russia. Each new war brought Napoleon new victories and new anti-French coalitions. At the same time, from the very beginning of his reign, the Emperor strove with all his might for a strong alliance with Russia.
    3. Compare Napoleon and Hitler ... Completely different eras, completely different people.
    4. Is Napoleon an adventurer? Not at all. He is a mathematician. His actions are pragmatic and calculated. At the same time, of course, not without errors, sometimes large.
    5. What is so attracted to the Napoleonic era? I’ve been thinking about it for a long time ... Most likely because Napoleon created the Just State. As much as was possible then. This is the state structure, and the equality of citizens before the law (!), The system of public education, taxation, the development of sciences, arts, social elevators, when people moved forward, not because of their origin and wealth, but because of their talents, knowledge, and skills. Constitution of human and civil rights. Perhaps that is why the overthrow of the Emperor was perceived by many with anguish ... the great era is over.
    6. To understand that era, I refer to the works of O. V. Sokolov. The greatest specialist. A person working in foreign archives with synchronous documents. That is, not with memoirs that were written 20-30-40 years after the events, but with those documents (orders, reports, orders, reports, personal diaries, letters) that were worked out in hot pursuit. Sokolov's lectures on the Napoleonic era are online. Books too.
    1. wolf20032
      wolf20032 5 March 2019 16: 55
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      They don’t understand here. They will immediately remember the Red Army and the great victory at Borodino. It is impossible to explain something. But I will try.
    2. Talgarets
      Talgarets 7 March 2019 13: 48
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      Now the Ponasenkovites with their ingenious glamorous Winnie the Pooh will run ...
  16. Tavrik
    Tavrik 4 March 2019 21: 58
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    Quote: Prometey
    Marshal Pear's maneuvers smacked of betrayal.
    Reply

    There was: 1. An incorrectly written order that allowed a double interpretation. 2. A drunk (!) Officer who delivered this order, could not explain anything intelligently. In short, due to the absence of Marshal Berthier, the work of the headquarters went awry. The era was ending ...
  17. Tavrik
    Tavrik 5 March 2019 00: 47
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    Quote: Less
    For there was much more harm to Russia from Napoleon and a series of articles about him could be timed to coincide with the end of the foreign campaign of the Russian army, but not to his birthday.

    Politics of Alexander 1 caused the most harm to Russia. And the birthday of Napoleon on August 15.
  18. wolf20032
    wolf20032 5 March 2019 16: 45
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    It’s just an introduction, and the author is already shouting - “Walking widely, it’s time to stop” - these almost legendary words of the great Suvorov ... Alexander Vasilievich did not say this, never. On the contrary, he spoke of Bonaparte completely opposite in meaning.
  19. Samara_63
    Samara_63 5 March 2019 22: 25
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    A stunning historical figure, he has no equal ... and his Marshal Lannu!
  20. nafanal
    nafanal 8 March 2019 17: 55
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    You look great .. I laid half of Europe and almost all the men of France ..