Vice-President of the KLA: the Su-57 project will be exported, the MiG-35 will show itself

Vice-President of the United Aircraft Corporation Ilya Tarasenko on the eve of AeroIndia-2019 in Bangalore gave an interview Interfaxduring which he made several important statements. In particular, according to him, the Su-57 project is “open for cooperation on mutually beneficial terms” and is ready for export.

Tarasenko made two important statements:

1. Despite India's withdrawal from the FGFA program to develop a fifth generation fighter based on the Su-57, Russia is still open to joint work on this project.
2. By Su-57 there are plans to enter the foreign market. KLA is also ready to cooperate on it on mutually beneficial terms.

According to him, United Aircraft Corporation is also going to change the approach to after-sales service, moving to a new PPO model, which will move away from scattered services to an integrated service. The UAC Vice-President stressed that for this purpose Russia is ready to use the customer’s infrastructure and create new jobs there.

India is one of the most important partners of the Russian Federation and one of the most solvent customers. Due to the fact that the Ministry of Defense of this Asian country is trying to diversify the supply of weapons, as well as making demands on technology transfer and reinvestment of the amounts paid under the contract, the local weapons the market is, on the one hand, very attractive, and on the other, extremely moody and complex.

Ilya Tarasenko answered a number of extremely painful questions, and the first of them concerned the fate of the MiG-35, who left the previous major Indian tender. According to the Russian official, multifunctional aviation MiG complex has changed dramatically since the time of MMRCA-1, and now fully meets the requirements of New Delhi.

The Russian side is ready not only to transfer the finished aircraft, but also to open their licensed production in India. Russia also hopes that the updated version of the MiG-35 will be of interest to current operators of the MiG-29. And this is more than 50 countries.

Ilya Tarasenko very carefully avoided the question of the conflict situation that arose around the MiG ship version. According to him, the official claim from the Hindus in a sharp form has been reported.

In the course of operation, any equipment requires service, repair, support - this is the workflow that we decide as part of the after-sales service of our equipment and the supply of necessary components for it.

- put an end to the question vice-president of the UAC.

Comments

[marshes]

70-100 lyam per unit, for Su57 and Kazakhstan will allow.
But according to MIG-35, if the price tag for 25 lyam goes, it’s easier to Su 30 cm Order, it is under 27 lyam. In one year and 21 it cost.

[poquello]

Quote: marshes

70-100 lyam per unit, for Su57 and Kazakhstan will allow.
But according to MIG-35, if the price tag for 25 lyam goes, it’s easier to Su 30 cm Order, it is under 27 lyam. In one year and 21 it cost.

yes there Kazakhstan, Pakistan Indians also need to troll

[marshes]

Quote: poquello

yes there Kazakhstan, Pakistan Indians also need to troll

Now it’s clear that new planes are created to troll.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

I do not know about trolling, but the Indians were thrown with the MIGs.

Ilya Tarasenko very carefully circumvented the issue of the conflict situation that arose around the ship’s version of the MiG.

The Indians bought the MIG-29K left virtually no carrier-based strike aircraft. Since February 2010, when the MiG-29K were commissioned, 40 engines were removed from service due to factory defects (this is 62%). But this is a military aircraft, not a tractor. And contracts for fighter jets are valued in serious amounts. The MIG-29 was originally designed as a multi-functional ground forces fighter. The project never laid down the specific requirements of carrier-based aviation. When landing on an aircraft carrier, the aircraft must pass over a deck cut at a height of approximately 2-5 meters from the middle height position of this deck. At a distance of about 15 meters, the finisher cables are stretched - the height must be dropped from 2-5 meters to zero and touch the deck about 10-12 meters from the cut of the landing deck. Otherwise, the hook will miss and the cable will not hook. Engine developers, avionics, electricians, hydraulics and mechanics did not even dare to think that the plane should crash into the runway almost instantly from a height of 5 meters. How to mount turbine shafts? How should electronic circuit boards be held? How to connect hydraulic piping? There was no such experience, such requirements were not laid down either by aviation engineers or by suppliers of components, assemblies and components. MIG specialists decided that it was possible to convert ordinary land vehicles into deck cars. Like, nothing special - we’ll make a folding wing, we will make efforts to chassis and everything will be normal. In the USA, the F14 and F18 were created with the expectation that their glider could withstand dynamic loads during takeoffs and landings from an aircraft carrier, and materials were selected taking into account their corrosion resistance. Now the main favorite of the tender for deck aircraft from the Indians SuperHornet Block3.

[cniza]

This market will drive everyone crazy, why does it all fuss?

[mvg]

MIG specialists decided that it was possible to convert ordinary land vehicles into deck cars.

Well, the Su-33 was made of land, and Rafal-M, and Etendar. No need to look for a black cat where she is not. Yes, the F-18 has been flying for a very long time, and there are AFARs, and the range of weapons is crazy, and the cost is not so hot ... but you can compete for maintenance. Which we don’t have. And the technology F414-GE-400 and AFAR Americans will not give.

[glasha3032]

The electronic boards are fastened tight, you’ll unscrew the hell! Everything is thought out!

[kit88]

The electronic boards in the blocks are removable, they are sub-blocks. Nothing is attached to the dead. Otherwise, the unit will become unrepairable.

[glasha3032]

They are fastened with at least 2 screws, and even clamped with a code plate .. And on top there is a plate with screws, it fastens the cassette with the boards and with the housing .... Using a special puller to remove the board, you need to make a lot of effort! Not everything is as simple as you think! No wonder the designers eat their bread!

[ficus2003]

I agree about the MiG-29K, but I think it's an exaggeration that the plane constantly needs to "fall" from a height of 5 meters, I watched many landings on American aircraft carriers and never saw them "fall", but yes, the landing as a whole is much tougher and is not known if the Su-57 is designed for this or will require deep processing. But for Russia this is not critical now, given that there is only one Kuznetsov, and even he will be ready for service in a few years.

[glasha3032]

".. fall from a height of 5 meters" - so the MiG-29K and the landing gear are reinforced for this! And the frame is reinforced and a lot has already been said about this! What is it about?

[Oden280]

No need to talk about what you have no idea. Hindus on deck landings dragged mattresses on their planes, because they refused to pay and undergo training in Russia, which is now being reaped. The level of technical personnel of the Indian Air Force is generally below any norm. They are riders. not the operators. First, they drive the equipment until it breaks, and then they start whining and begging that they would replace it with a new one, since it has broken. A commission from the company arrives and the claim ends.
We have almost the same MIGs flying and operating normally.

[SSR]

Quote: marshes

Now it’s clear that new planes are created to troll. laughing

Yeah, troll shkololo! It was worth mentioning that the service is a ram, as the sales and marketing gurus wrote right there - read the contract!
Wise guys, learn to live with the times! Sofa sales strategists.

According to him, the United Aircraft Corporation is also going to change the approach to after-sales service, moving to a new model of software, which will move away from disparate services to a comprehensive service.

The last sentence is understood by pseudo-patriots ?!
Quack quack ... read the contract. The contract suits for the time being.

[silverwolf88]

the idea of ​​entering the Pakistani market is good))) ... but we’ll just face China ... but why do we need it?

[poquello]

Quote: silberwolf88

the idea of ​​entering the Pakistani market is good))) ... but we’ll just face China ... but why do we need it?

Well, to say it’s still not to go, but everything’s fine - the Indians gathered 57 to buy twenty pieces, though it’s not to buy it yet)

[silver_roman]

China has copied the S-300 and is brazenly trying to compete with our air defense system.

[silverwolf88]

So what ...
do not confuse warm with soft ... politics in the region and the World as a whole ... a special trading case ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: silberwolf88

the idea of ​​entering the Pakistani market is good))) ... but we’ll just face China ... but why do we need it?

And China does not hesitate to face us. For example, Crimea was not recognized as Russian. But we recognize Taiwan as Chinese, but we might not recognize it. So, you need to think less about China, but more about your own benefit. Nothing personal, just business.

[kjhg]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

For example, Crimea was not recognized as Russian. But we recognize Taiwan as Chinese, but we might not recognize it.

You, when you write such things, sometimes think first. Russia recognized Taiwan as Chinese long before Crimean history. What now, withdraw recognition? You can’t imagine a stupider ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: kjhg

You, when you write such things, sometimes think first. Russia recognized Taiwan as Chinese long before Crimean history. What now, withdraw recognition? You can’t imagine a stupider ...

This you need to think more. Recognition of Taiwan as an integral part of China was an act of goodwill on the part of the USSR. The USSR could not do this. And how did China rate this gesture?
He did not recognize Crimea as Russian. Why, you know? Because China has a certain enclave, which, under certain circumstances, may secede from China. Therefore, China does not recognize Crimea, it thinks only of itself. Why should we think about China?

[silverwolf88]

you accidentally do not work as a taxi driver ... with such a knowledge of politics ... the breadth of an analytical look and uncompromisingness))) ... in Yandex they will tear them off ...

[Egorovich]

Now the 6th generation aircraft and drone are being actively developed and the future belongs to them. This is work in tandem between the Hunter and the SU-57. For this, money is needed, and the Indians are money, and it is absolutely necessary to lure them with something.

[Irokez]

Quote: Egorovich

For this, money is needed, and the Indians are money, it is necessary to lure them with something.

Everything is right in the current conditions on a starvation ration and sanctions you need to sell what we can. The more we sell, the less the adversaries will sell, and this is very beneficial for us.
Yes, and technology also does not stand still, we will sell today, and tomorrow it will already be the past and not much needed, but we were able to sell it.
I think everything is fine with the sale will be even such a moody Hindus. And there, Egypt will mature and other potential medium fighters.

[Egorovich]

And Egypt will mature and others will find money for a good product, that's right.

[widower]

Quote: Irokez

And technologies also do not stand still, we’ll sell today, and tomorrow it will already be the past and few people need it,

well, when they sell, for example, "Zhiguli", then they are going to buy "Volga"

[AUL]

Quote: Irokez

Everything is right in the current conditions on a starvation ration and sanctions you need to sell what we can. The more we sell, the less the adversaries will sell, and this is very beneficial for us.

This is called - give your wife to uncle, and go to ... a friend!

[Irokez]

Quote from AUL

This is called - give your wife to uncle, and go to ... a friend!

This means absolutely nothing, and especially about his wife.
If they sell the technology, it is not new or critical and known in the world, but the Indians themselves cannot master it, for example.
Indians can use their own or foreign electronics, but for us it’s not permissible, for example, the technical components used in a machine can always be copied if they are not so complex and it’s not a sin to sell technology to them. Engines, yes, for sure, and if they give the Indians how to do them, it’s not the very first freshness, but they must also master them and learn how to do it, and this is not one year. The software is well-trimmed for sure, and probably with bookmarks, but in general the Indians themselves are strong in programming, the radar is not fresh, but please do the last century.
Most likely, we will give the priestess of love to them, but our beloved is still at home and under protection.

[bayard]

The MiG-35 was originally conceived as an export product. The Air Force was not going to buy it ... and even now they are not sure. So we will not lose technology, and get a contract for the MiG, and after the "Raphale" dances with tambourines ... I'm interested in something else. Hindus, we have old MiG-29s from storage with modernization of more than 40 lams in a fire order ... The new MiG-35 was promised to be no more than 35 mpn. USD And they started talking about the purchase of the Su-57 again, and the MiG-35 ... It seems to me that the purchase of the MiG-29 is a form of a bribe / apology / penalty for a trick with a two-seat T-50 ... It looks like the "Pakistani maneuver" glory. And then the best pilot of Egypt on a brand new "Rafal" for 200 Lyamas crashed on a demonstration flight ... Fart on our planes.

[Vladimir 5]

And our money of the Russian Federation lies in the notorious "pillow" and does not work, this is how to explain this ... The main thing is that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not controlled by the government and the state of the Russian Federation, which means that gold, 2,2 thousand tons, is not Russian, but property TSB RF. and they can do with it what they want - knowing such businessmen, we may not get this gold, it will go away under fictitious transactions and that's it ...

[widower]

Quote: Vladimir 5

And our money of the Russian Federation lies in the notorious "pillow" and does not work, this is how to explain

But how do you know everything about money ????
it's a state secret
all that is told is either a fake or a provocation.
nobody will ever reveal to you the REAL state of affairs

[Vladimir 5]

So constantly publish, you are so kind do not build d ... a. (it is possible that indeed, according to such comments, ..) The real state of affairs in the reports is from statistical to the official Central Bank of the Russian Federation. and so that your doubts dissipate, listen to the comments of economists on the branch of Tsargrad, economic commentator Pronko, he has the visiting leading leading economists of the Russian Federation ...,

[widower]

Quote: Vladimir 5

So constantly publish, you are so kind do not build d ... a. (

I say it again
NOBODY will NEVER tell you about the REAL state of affairs in the financial sector.
this is GUINE !!!!

listen to the comments of economists on the branch of Constantinople,

turn on the NTV program "Meeting Place" and listen to Kovtun there

his guests are the leading leading economists of the Russian Federation ...,

now on any TV channel, both "economists and" political scientists "and the devil knows who are visiting

[Vladimir 5]

In your state budget is also a state secret ... the clinic is on the face,

[widower]

Quote: Vladimir 5

In your state budget is also a state secret ..

Yes. secret.
when you sit down to play cards tell everyone how much money you have?
so in politics. the enemy should know only what he was told.
Knowing your budget is easy to count on what you are capable of. and the ace from the sleeve never got in the way.
why GDP so calmly said Shoigu, develop new missiles coming out of the budget of the Moscow region.
then there is a nest egg

[bondrostov]

Quote: widower

GDP so calmly said Shoigu, develop new missiles coming out of the budget of the Moscow Region.

these are two talkers! they only know how to build villas.

[asv363]

Quote: Vladimir 5

In your state budget is also a state secret ...

You are sorry to interfere in the dialogue a bit. Do you know about closed items in the budget? Only the total amount of the closed part of the budget is known; the financing made from it is not subject to general access.

[Vladimir 5]

Closed articles hidden in common numbers and do not make secrets where they are not. The zeal of our citizens is simply unlimited, and they agree to be fooled ... The phenomenon of homo sovietikus continues to live ... Better take the budget for the year before last and its implementation and look ... There you will find a lot that some consider SECRET ...

[bayard]

And from what budget, my dear, then all those military projects (Poseidon, Dagger, Vanguard, Burevesnik, etc.) were funded, which is a lot of money and a long time. How did you see such budget spending in the Central Bank, which is known to the Fed unit?
And one more question . How is it that in Russia so many large enterprises are opened / launched every year, such infrastructure projects are being abandoned, but there is no growth in statistics? The task of the school is the 3rd grade - it flows into one pipe, pours into another. How many production facilities should be closed during the year to compensate for such a significant increase in fresh capacity?
Statistics - the queen of sciences, as she wants, she dances. They said not to scare partners with the growth of the economy, it does not scare. NO growth. Meanwhile, the World Bank, assessing the real sector of the economy by PPP, found that the real sector of Russia is only 2,2 times inferior to the United States! And this despite the fact that our population is 2,2 - 2,5 times less than theirs. And GDP per capita PPP production is TWO times higher in our country than in China.
But there is NO GROWTH!

And do not about the income of the population. After Russia was cut off from external credit resources, it is necessary to lend at the expense of internal ones. So everything that is possible is squeezed out, including from the population. Stalin, too, government bonds. issued a loan as a salary. But without external loans, the country restored.
But Medvedev is certainly a bastard.

[Vladimir 5]

Bayard ... You dear, you need a basic economic education even in secondary school. At the Ministry of Defense, they give the planned amount of the annual budget, then it is laid out on shelves, with in excess of large planned expenses, there are shelves with unforeseen expenses, then it is possible to contact the government and take items from its unforeseen expenses, etc. ... transfer some funds. But the total amount of the budget is usually not changeable. Especially when the budget is in surplus, that is, revenues (mainly from the sale of raw materials) exceed expenditures, "extra money" appears .... And when the prime minister tells the people that there is no money, with a budget surplus, then the prime minister can be safely called a brazen liar, and just give such a kick in the ass from the prime minister's chair ...

[silverwolf88]

you would have subscribed to the ECHO of Moscow ... well, inappropriately and I won’t do it ...

[777-3-59-97]

This is a work in tandem between "Okhotnik" and SU-57

Are there any prerequisites for this? Where will such technology come from?
Hard to believe.

[bondrostov]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

This is a work in tandem between "Okhotnik" and SU-57

Are there any prerequisites for this? Where will such technology come from?
Hard to believe.

This is a fantasy cheers local patriots.
In fact, they will sell everything that is possible and to EVERYONE who buys! It’s not just like someone previously wrote “wife to uncle,” here is a wife with children and the enemy.
Because THIS IS ALL in the USA in a week it will be only they will pay more.
I propose: SU 57, YARS, BOREY, it is advisable to sell a couple immediately in the USA, along with those documentation and crews (so they will pay more). But seriously try, Russia will buy an F-22, although one will not be sold to us even for $ 100 billion!

[widower]

Quote: Egorovich

, lure them with something is necessary.

"They catch fish with a spoon, and devils with a rattle"

[Lesorub]

The Su-57 project “is open for cooperation on mutually beneficial conditions” and is ready for export.

The Chinese are probably a subtle hint)))) ??

Quote: Egorovich

"Hunter" with SU-57. This is what money is for, and Indians are money.

Are you sure you understand the fin.flows for the sale of weapons)) ?!

[Kharkiv]

Su-57 costs 3 lard rubles. ~ $ 50 million. Pennies for the best fighter in the world. In theory, its price should be at least $ 150 million, but rather 200

[marshes]

Quote: Kharkov

Su-57 costs 3 lard rubles. ~ $ 50 million. Pennies for the best fighter in the world. In theory, its price should be at least $ 150 million, but rather 200

Yes, in the wretched version, but at least 50 lyam apiece, you can, for example, replace an entire regiment of mig-29.
Let everything be hinged.

[widower]

Quote: Kharkov

In theory, its price should be at least $ 150 million, but rather 200

do you seriously think that you really know the prices on the arms market than those people who are professionally engaged in this?
do you know all the backroom games?
do you know all the "pitfalls"?
Do you know how to get around the Americans?
Have you ever sold anything on the market?

[Zaurbek]

Su5S sold to China for such a price ....

[NEXUS]

The Hindus will return to the SU-57 pair a bit later ... for now, our auto-corporation has lured the Indians, in order to make a monetary contribution to India, accelerated the work on the SU-57 and adopting it for the Russian Armed Forces.

[Borik]

The USA is pushing its plane, and why not offer SU-57 to those who want it. What if there are buyers. Rumor has it that the Turks scare Amers if they are threatened not to put them F35 then they will buy Su-57 from Russia for evil.

[Kharkiv]

Quote: Borik

Turks scare amers if they are threatened not to put them F35 then they will buy Su-57 from Russia for evil

I think for this they will have to get out of NATO

[lis-ik]

Quote: NEXUS

in order to make a monetary contribution to India, he accelerated the work on SU-57 and its adoption by the Russian Armed Forces.

I understand your hopes, but unfortunately their priorities are not in this, just business and nothing personal.

[NEXUS]

Quote: lis-ik

I understand your hopes, but unfortunately their priorities are not in this, just business and nothing personal.

The project SU-57 sparks was discussed at the very beginning with the Indians and this was agreed in advance. What does business have to do with anything personal? We are fighting for the Indian arms market from which we are being pressed very persistently. Now, Indians have been asked to return to the FGFA project.

Quote: lis-ik

but unfortunately their priorities are not in that

And why is it scratched? Having glorified the polymers? Not tired?

[lis-ik]

Quote: NEXUS

And why is it scratched? Having glorified the polymers? Not tired

No, I'm not tired, it's just that, unlike you, I'm already tired of waiting for anything from our bureaucrats and I look at things realistically, they absolutely don't care about the Russian Federation. Moreover, the mantra that "there is no money" does not work. There is money! Only they are already, as it were, hidden and divided, but according to the residual principle (rip off from the population) there really is not enough for everything, so you have to eat a fish and ......... sit down.

[widower]

There is money! Only they are already hidden and divided,

you saw with your own eyes know between whom are divided?
please share info

[widower]

Quote: lis-ik

just business and nothing personal.

but somewhere in the trade is different?
for beautiful eyes they don’t sell anything and they don’t buy anything

[lis-ik]

Quote: widower

Quote: lis-ik

just business and nothing personal.

but somewhere in the trade is different?
for beautiful eyes they don’t sell anything and they don’t buy anything

But neither the Homeland, even the Americans see the difference.

[new max]

Quote: NEXUS

The Hindus will return to the SU-57 pair a bit later ... for now, our auto-corporation has lured the Indians, in order to make a monetary contribution to India, accelerated the work on the SU-57 and adopting it for the Russian Armed Forces.

In 100 years, when completely without aviation will be left because of the "wise" management of aviation. Remember the story of the IL-214. How old are the brains paraffin wax, or what in the end? They are not reliable. They want a freebie.

[mark1]

Probably at every government meeting, the main agenda is "who knows, what else to sell?"

[new max]

Capitalism. Now it’s like that in any country. Look at the USA and China is ready to sell anything with rare exceptions. Development requires a series and money for a new generation of developments.

[mark1]

But who argues - capitalism, his mother ... But I would also like not to forget myself, my beloved. After all, the capacities are not unlimited - either to yourself or to the counter, in the beginning I would like to imagine at least 50% of the need.

[new max]

All our trouble is in the zoo of fighters. Su-35, Su-34, Su-30SM, Mig-29SMT, Mig-35, Su-57, Mig-31, Su-24, Su-25. This is only the tactical that came to mind. It is necessary to concentrate, not to smear means, on multifunctional and perspective Su-57, Mig-35, Mig-41 and maybe Su-35. And so the zoo eats everything. The USA has mostly f-16 and f-15.

[Botanologist]

Quote: new max

The US has mostly f-16 and f-15.

Yeah, well, also F-18, F-22, F-16 and 15, for a minute, 5 modifications each, A-10, F-5 is still flying, T-38, F-35 arrives (three modifications, not counting various " block"). Will we get into the transport and bombers or will it be enough?

[new max]

In my opinion, the same amers have enough f-22, f-35, well, maybe even f-16. Let the rest be operated to the end. One bomber. Well, and transport. Everything. The rest is an extra zoo, which is a burden.

[Alf]

Quote: new max

In my opinion, the same amers have enough f-22, f-35, well, maybe even f-16. Let the rest be operated to the end. One bomber. Well, and transport. Everything. The rest is an extra zoo, which is a burden.

It was yesterday that the news passed that the USA wanted to resume production of the F-15.

[new max]

Quote: Alf

Quote: new max

In my opinion, the same amers have enough f-22, f-35, well, maybe even f-16. Let the rest be operated to the end. One bomber. Well, and transport. Everything. The rest is an extra zoo, which is a burden.

It was yesterday that the news passed that the USA wanted to resume production of the F-15.

So the US Secretary of Defense, a former Boeing manager, got to the budget of the United States Department of Defense for the ears you will not find. The dream of his life. That's where things go uphill at Boeing.

[mvg]

F-15 renew

It did not die. Israel made an order. KSA thinks. Yes, and Boeing sponsored the Trump company.

[KCA]

You explain this to the Pentagon, otherwise they, stupid people, were going to order 200 F-15 units

[new max]

Quote: KCA

You explain this to the Pentagon, otherwise they, stupid people, were going to order 200 F-15 units

They want to set up a fleet of gigantomania of Trump, the budget is the largest in history, to increase everything dramatically. In short cut the Shuroch saw. It is not for nothing that the businessmen of the US military-industrial complex put Trump as president. He works out his best.

[Botanologist]

Quote: new max

In my opinion, the same amers have enough f-22, f-35, well, maybe even f-16. Let the rest be exploited to the end. One bomber.

If everything was so simple ... And then to drive jihadmobiles - the attack aircraft are asked. Destroy fortified areas - give the bomber. Close the sky - a fighter is needed. Well, and interceptor, if the area of ​​responsibility is large. Not to mention the likelihood of air battles, work on the sea, landing operations, covering up their troops, and much more. Well, you can’t get off with one plane, or even three. there is always a danger that a wizard will suddenly fly on a Su-35 or J-20 and practically prove that the f-35 is not quite a fighter for gaining air superiority. And ffffse .... Sorrow - longing.

[Incvizitor]

In my opinion, the same amers have enough f-22, f-35

And in their opinion, this is rubbish "to sell to the allies and for themselves f 15 will again be produced.

[Alf]

Quote: new max

All our trouble is in the zoo of fighters. Su-35, Su-34, Su-30SM, Mig-29SMT, Mig-35, Su-57, Mig-31, Su-24, Su-25.

And with what fright do you SU-34, SU-24, SU-25 recorded in fighter jets?

[new max]

Well, fighter-bombers. In the era of multifunctionality, highly specialized machines are redundant.

[Botanologist]

Quote: new max

In the era of multifunctionality, highly specialized machines are redundant.

If this were true, then only sedans with 1,6 engines on 92 gasoline in the "coupe" version and in the "M" configuration would be driving the streets. I mean - Maxi.

[svp67]

Quote: new max

Well, fighter-bombers.

And since when did the MiG-31 become tactical?

[Grits]

Quote: new max

All our trouble is in the zoo of fighters. Su-35, Su-34, Su-30SM, Mig-29SMT, Mig-35, Su-57, Mig-31, Su-24, Su-25. This is only the tactical that came to mind. It is necessary to concentrate, not to smear means, on multifunctional and perspective Su-57, Mig-35, Mig-41 and maybe Su-35. And so the zoo eats everything. The USA has mostly f-16 and f-15.

So after all, the zoo of potential "partners" is no less diverse. Offhand - A-10, A-29, OV-10, F-14, F-15, F-16, F / A-18, F-22, F-35, F-111, F-117.
Let not all of them be fighters, but you have also dumped ours

[svp67]

Quote: Gritsa

So after all, the zoo of potential "partners" is no less diverse. Offhand - A-10, A-29, OV-10, F-14, F-15, F-16, F / A-18, F-22, F-35, F-111, F-117.
Let not all of them be fighters, but you have also dumped ours

Well, from your list A-10, A-29 and OV-10 are not fighters, but F-111 and F-117 and you somehow missed the news that they still have F-5 in service, which they decided to upgrade.
Yes, and in spite of your opponent, but he does not want to list all the modifications of the same F-15 and F-16 now in service with the US Air Force? It seems to me that there the picture will be even more mottled

[widower]

Quote: new max

Capitalism

Soviet Socialism did not trade in anything?
I drove tanks to Africa for next to nothing. the main thing is that they follow the "socialist path"
Who was Bocasso not forgotten?

[new max]

Quote: widower

Quote: new max

Capitalism

Soviet Socialism did not trade in anything?
I drove tanks to Africa for next to nothing. the main thing is that they follow the "socialist path"
Who was Bocasso not forgotten?

Under the Soviets, there was a struggle for power with the help of money, now a struggle for money with the help of power. Quite the contrary.

[widower]

Quote: new max

Under the Soviets, there was a struggle for power with the help of money, now a struggle for money with the help of power. Quite the contrary.

2X3 one, and 3X2 another?

[new max]

Quote: new max

Quote: widower

Quote: new max

Under the Soviets, there was a struggle for power with the help of money, now a struggle for money with the help of power. Quite the contrary.

2X3 one, and 3X2 another?

The USSR in the struggle for leadership bought the loyalty of a bunch of countries for money. Now, having some power influence in the world, the power is tighter, we are trying to exchange it for contracts that are beneficial to us. Now our goal is money, not power.

[widower]

Quote: new max

Now our goal is money, not power.

laughter
so power gives money

[new max]

Quote: widower

Quote: new max

Now our goal is money, not power.

laughter
so power gives money

So, having any power in the world, we are trying to convert it into money. What have I said wrong?

[widower]

Quote: mark1

Probably at every government meeting, the main agenda is "who knows, what else to sell?"

Oh. Are there really countries that don't sell anything?
and name at least one

[mark1]

No such countries But if you didn’t hurry to answer me more quickly, you would read below what I had in mind

[widower]

Quote: mark1

But if you didn’t hurry to answer me more quickly, you would read below what I had in mind

I'm walking on a tape. saw answered.
I don’t know how to jump like a squirrel on branches

[Harry_]

..that's for sure, you won’t say otherwise.

[GibSoN]

UAC Vice President: Su-57 project will be exported

In general, that’s it! Further discussion .. generally does not matter what.
PS Patriots, nationalists and other sympathizers can diverge.

[new max]

What to disperse? They carefully read the article? Perhaps cooperation in the future to increase the series and reduce the cost of the aircraft. But not only for export. Read carefully.

[GibSoN]

Read carefully.

I don’t need to carefully or somehow perpendicularly read to understand that this was originally a PR, the purpose of which, initially, was to develop technologies that could not be reproduced, well, banal earnings in the arms market. The United States, after doh .. many years, did not even guess to sell its reptiles to even its most complete allies. Although the technologies there have been outdated for a very long time ... and the United States itself does not disdain the sale of critical technologies (there were examples of a Boeing that sold to China what was generally not needed).

[new max]

There is no way to produce? Why are you so categorically pessimistic? Only challenges for engineers can make progress. Remember the Soviet Union, how many works were done from scratch after the war, how many masterpieces. If, as you reason, you have to give up and do nothing. What does it mean that it’s impossible to reproduce? Have you made PD-14, type 30 from scratch the second stage, but still need time for testing. The latest missiles for the Su-57, Belka radar. Everything has its time.

[GibSoN]

There is no way to produce?

No. This is a very complex topic, requiring just a huge amount of discussion .. In a nutshell, everything is simple. All critical areas of production no longer depend on the technical development of the country. This is all commonplace sub-production of foreign companies. At the same time, without foreign funding, technology, etc., they are generally completely incompetent. It’s trite even to consider such giants as VAZ, GAZ, KAMAZ ... There is generally nothing from the Russian Federation! In any case, from the point of view of technology and implementation ..

Only challenges for engineers can make progress

It's too obvious to voice it! They can! Certainly .. Let's go down to the earth and stop dreaming! That’s as soon as possible .. and we’ll talk! The rest is PR at best.

Remember the USSR

There is no need to remember anything, and even more so to try to "take out" for nostalgia! The USSR is long gone! Furthermore! Most of the population, corny survived all these years, in the hope that the USSR will still return! But it's time to open your eyes and stop believing in fairy tales! The USSR is a utopia that will never happen again!

Made from scratch PD-14

No one did anything from scratch! The wheel also did not just appear.

The latest missiles for the Su-57, the Belka radar. Everything has its time.

That's when there will be real data on the latest .. from all sides .. but not from the media and advertising statements, then it will be possible to return to this conversation .. But given the fact that they killed at least at all times for secret data, let's be realistic, we we don’t know anything about any data at all.

[new max]

In short, we don’t know anything about our achievements, even if we have enough, it’s enough to dream and do something, because everything depends on international cooperation, and we don’t think there is anything without them. You’re skeptics, if you are not trying to tell us more that we they themselves should not develop. Mol is useless. And what is wrong in the USSR also for you. And there were no achievements in science and technology, great construction projects, the first person in Space. Now everyone is trying to build and develop a trend on their own and not in cooperation , no one to depend on. Turkey, China, Japan, the same India. And you say the opposite, we will not succeed without cooperation. As a mishandled Cossack. Also in Ukraine they said that abroad will help us until they started to make fat from Poland. Rescuing the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves, and everything else is unfair competition and the struggle for the sales market. I don’t agree with you. We ourselves will all be able to prevent the main thing over time . Not worse than others.

[new max]

You deny our achievements are obvious, like PD-14. At the same time, you even forbid us to think about independent development under far-fetched pretexts. Those same Japanese are building planes today, although they did not do this before, but they dreamed and realized their dream. You tell us you don’t dream, you can’t, you won’t succeed. You have only other people's achievements and prospects, you try not to notice ours. And if you have them, ignore them. Why? Your position is very strange. You are a saboteur.

[Alf]

Quote: new max

. Remember the USSR,

Do not. The USSR and capitalist Russia are two big differences.
So they did the SU-57. BUT! The female dog of the Siluans did not give money for the series and this was all over. It turns out like in the 90s everyone has it, but in the Russian Armed Forces there isn’t.

[new max]

Siluanov is our Minister of Defense? Yes, and what to buy if the product 30 of the second stage of another 3 years will bring to mind?

[Alf]

Quote: new max

Siluanov, we have the Minister of Defense

No. He is "only" the finance minister.

[new max]

Quote: Alf

Quote: new max

Siluanov, we have the Minister of Defense

No. He is "only" the finance minister.

Here I am talking about the fact that he is only, and not omnipotent. And this decision on the Su-57 did not depend on him.

[Alf]

Quote: new max

Quote: Alf

Quote: new max

Siluanov, we have the Minister of Defense

No. He is "only" the finance minister.

Here I am talking about the fact that he is only, and not omnipotent. And this decision on the Su-57 did not depend on him.

It depends on him how much money the MO will receive.

[widower]

Quote: Alf

I didn’t give money for the series and that was it.

do not distort. money for the series did not give MO. the car was not tested yet in Lipetsk.

[Beregovic_1]

You shouldn’t be so. Selling weapons in the first place is very profitable. Secondly, these are jobs, loading and development of the enterprise, the cheapening of the aircraft itself due to mass character. Export and saved the industry in the 2000s. Su-30SM was generally born from an export one. The Air Force saw that a good car had come out and ordered it for themselves. Thanks to aggressive advertising, Americans will pay for the most expensive program in history. They will sell penguins to everyone, and pay back the investments. And the competition with them will be fierce. And finally, weapons for export come with reduced performance characteristics.

[mvg]

weapons for export come with reduced performance characteristics

Not always. Full-fledged T-90S went to Iraq, and even the equipment is better than the Russian version. Kazakhstan bought the Su-30SM. China Su-35S. By the way, the fact that there are export "truncated" options is not always good .. when the T-72 made their way through 105 mm L-7 in the forehead, and the T-62 Super Shermans .. and the MiG-21 in general stools .. and the Arabs paid for it twice , or even three times ...

[rruvim]

In general, nothing is clear ... In general, people like Tarasenko understand anything? He is, of course, a specialist, but he worked for two offices, both at the SU and at the MIG. And "lit up" in Skolkovo at Chubais. How can you compare Sush-ku (57th) with Mig, albeit 35th. It's like comparing a Cruiser to a corvette. Who are the people in the UAC?

[Reserve officer]

The vice president of the United Aircraft Company is, of course, a figure. But not of that rank to make such statements. Such issues will be resolved without him. With all due respect, the leadership of this company in political terms is the executors of the agreements of the first persons. No more.

[bouncyhunter]

Lyosha, be healthy!

Quote: Reserve officer

No more.

Key phrase. Let's see what happens next, but the words ... You know yourself: they have no special weight.

[Reserve officer]

Pasha, welcome! For a thousand years on the site did not intersect. I am very glad to see that you are still the same. With the same analytics and his inimitable sarcasm.

[bouncyhunter]

You know me: I am what I am. Change and do not think.
I bent my line and I will bend until they roll me into a coffin. And this is in a very distant future, I'm sure ...

[Reserve officer]

And I'm sure.
I say the same to my relatives. I had surgery on the skull, why I do not visit the site so often. Now rehabilitation. Do not worry, as the doctors said. Well, my daughter is following this very seriously.
Consequence of service in Kazakhstan. When they threw us explosive packets, and we had three rocket launchers and thirty missiles in the company I commanded. And you could shoot only over the heads.
And my concussion (extensive compression injury - as indicated in the medical record) is just a consequence of some road accident, which, by the way, I hid. This was the answer from my military unit in Semipalatinsk. They still remember when I renounced my oath to Kazakhstan and received an extraordinary title. Already the army of Kazakhstan. Like in the movie "72 meters". One to one.

[bouncyhunter]

Lesha, I will not say much:
BACK TO BACK

[Pete mitchell]

Pasha gamarjoba dear - it’s better to be than to seem: we have stood and will stand.

[bouncyhunter]

I wish you good health, Tramp!

Quote: Pete Mitchell

better to be than to seem: we have stood and will stand.

I subscribe to these words!

[widower]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Change and don't think

[Kharkiv]

Mig designs the delicious Mig-41. Wunderwafer worse than the Su-57th will be

[new max]

More detail you can?

[Kharkiv]

I hope Google is not banned

[Grits]

Quote: Kharkov

Mig designs the delicious Mig-41. Wunderwafer worse than the Su-57th will be

It's hard to believe. even if he appears, then the Sashists will already have some sort of F-155

[widower]

Quote: rruvim

He, of course, is special, but he worked for two offices, both in the SU and the MIG.

in general, this is one "office" and is called the Russian Federation.

[Alf]

Quote: rruvim

What kind of people are in the KLA?

Business Managers.

[new max]

Quote: Alf

Quote: rruvim

What kind of people are in the KLA?

Business Managers.

What kind of birds are these mannagers? Do not decrypt?

[Alf]

Quote: new max

Quote: Alf

Quote: rruvim

What kind of people are in the KLA?

Business Managers.

What kind of birds are these mannagers? Do not decrypt?

The activities of the manager are unique in that - its effectiveness in managerial organizations is strongly inversely proportional to the IQ value of the manager. Managers are deprived of responsibility.
Managers are not active, most often they sit in offices. In the office, managers pretend that they are working.
The main work of all managers:
sit with a look as if you are doing business. simulation of work (moving a stack of papers from place to place, moving the mouse so that the screen does not go out);
at the head, pick up the phone and make a business appearance, as if there is a conversation on the phone;
long smoke break, imitation of fatigue from work;
The manager does not keep the paper, forgets the customers once and for all, breaking off all communications, keeps the contract from the first copy.
The manager closes the customer case, never opening it again.
The manager gives the right to lead other people without taking responsibility.
Manager, however, does not understand the meaning of words as “leadership” and “super-efficiency”.

Enough? The vast majority of modern managers, especially senior executives, can be attributed specifically to managers.
Examples of the activities of such geniuses include the head of workshop 18 on Kuznetsov, where I honestly donated for 15 years. The formation of this creature is a TOURIST business. The workshop is already in a fever.

[loginovich]

There is no engine; there is no serial aircraft, but they have already sold them for export. Enchanting fortune teller.

[lis-ik]

Quote: loginovich

There is no engine; there is no serial aircraft, but they have already sold them for export. Enchanting fortune teller.

Now the trend is this, you will recall the cosmos and the huge plans for many years.

[new max]

The engine is already there. On trials. Flight.

[widower]

Quote: loginovich

, and have already sold for export.

tell you about fu-35?

[loginovich]

Quote: widower

Quote: loginovich

, and have already sold for export.

tell you about fu-35?

Shine with erudition.

[widower]

Quote: loginovich

Shine with erudition.

yes stoit can’t bring to mind
continuous problems. and complaints
but impose on everyone
almost every day on VO about problems fu-35 articles and discussions
Duc in my opinion is better to do, but vesh. than fast and russula

[irazum]

I foolishly did not understand at first, but why would Ilya Tarasenko suffered such a "blizzard", and then reread it more closely and everything fell into place. It happened in Bangalore! And this dramatically changes everything: they "dance", we "sing". And everyone is happy.

[Cowbra]

Hmmm, the toadstool the Indians with the "partnership" turned us into a noble

[vladcub]

All dances around the Hindus: how to charm and how to please them. And such "trifling" questions: 1) how did our "well-wishers" competitors have nothing in store? 2) Maybe it's time to think about your Air Force and upgrade your fleet?

[new max]

Yes, no one can please Indians recently. We are not French, not Americans. We ourselves do not know what they want.

[irazum]

"- They themselves don't know what they want !!!" X / F "It can't be!"

[widower]

Quote: new max

They themselves do not know what they want.

they know. but they cannot say.
like a dog

[Alf]

Quote: new max

They themselves do not know what they want.

They know. EVERYTHING, IMMEDIATELY and FREE is the motto of the country of Chakraborty.

[widower]

Quote: Alf

IMMEDIATELY and FREE- the motto of the country of Chakraborty.

also you owe us

[vladcub]

It looks like

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Cowbra

Hmmm, the toadstool the Indians with the "partnership" turned us into a noble

But do not put all the eggs in one basket!

[lis-ik]

Quote: Vlad5307

Quote: Cowbra

Hmmm, the toadstool the Indians with the "partnership" turned us into a noble

But do not put all the eggs in one basket!

So much more in essence and nowhere.

[venik]

"...In particular, according to him, the Su-57 project “is open for cooperation on mutually beneficial conditions” and is ready for export. ..... "
==========
There is one more "funny" nuance - "cooperation" with India - this is the possibility of access to foreign element base (alas! Today, due to "sanctions", we are cut off from it!). This does not mean that "we cannot do without them" - it will just be faster, easier and cheaper!!!!
Well, somewhere like that! And there, already develop YOURS !!!

[RL]

"Vice President of the United Aircraft Corporation Ilya Tarasenko gave an interview to Interfax on the eve of AeroIndia-2019 in Bangalore, during which he made several important statements." Hopefully, an important person also made these "important" statements.

[new max]

On trials. A part such as the T-14, T-15, self-propelled guns of the Coalition, AK-12 this year will already go to the troops. Everything has its time.

[Kharkiv]

Despite India's withdrawal from the FGFA's fifth-generation fighter program based on the Su-57, Russia is still open for collaboration on this project

Surely the Indians will come back and go: D The most volatile nation in the world, at least in the field of military procurement

Well, who else? West, of course, past, China is developing its 5th generation with blackjack and ...

Turkey? I could have entered the project, but not before leaving NATO. That leaves India, which, I repeat, may well return (reminds a hysterical wife who, after each conflict, "collects things and leaves for her mother," and returns the next day) and, it seems to me, Iran could also come

[evgen1221]

Damn, I didn’t understand something today at the military-industrial complex, do we have a black Friday for discounts and sales on chtoli? What kind of auction of unprecedented generosity is that ??? Or managers got drunk and write nonsense in the media. What's happening? Su 35, apl is now also 57 for sale. Has their troops already been packed to the eyeballs or will GDP in the 23rd be delighted with a death star disguised in orbit and fitted by aliens as a gift?

[donavi49]

Russia also expects the updated version of the MiG-35 to interest the current MiG-29 operators. And this is more than 50 countries.

He pushed it hard, even with Israeli and American MiGs - 50 is not typed.

But still - probable who will pay with money:
Azerbaijan is quite real, but it is more of a politician.
Iran is also UN sanctions recognized by the Russian Federation. When the sanctions drop, it’s not a fact that they will find money, because by then the US sanctions will work in full for several years.

And all. Now - who will drop the used MiG-29 on the market soon or already:
Hungary - has already put its firewood on Ibei.
Bulgaria is about to expose soon.
Slovakia - bought the 14 F-16Block70, they will replace the MiGs - which will be put on Ibey, will begin to write off next year.
Poland - everything is floating there, some are screaming to throw out and replace F-16Block70, others are screaming There is no money. In any case, they will abandon the MiGs in the coming years. Either replacing or for natural reasons (they will die).

Those who fly the MiG-29 but take MiG-35 only as a gift (or irrevocable loan):
Syria is understandable.
Cuba is also understandable.
North Korea - is also understandable.
Sudan - they have big problems with sanctions there, so even a gift is doubtful.
Yemen - which one? The South has a roof with dominant air forces. In the North - the sense of the MiG-35, even with mercenaries zero. In general, there is no place for aircraft.
Old Man - I see.
Kazakh steppe dad - similarly.
The Uzbek successor Karimov - everything is also clear there.
Eritrea - no money, even their MiGs were rotted into firewood.
Serbia - well, they have already taken as a gift and will take more .

That’s all - who is Ukraine left there? Turkmenbashi? Peru - but so far they are investing money in the fleet. Myanmar - but this is the cow of China now, they already bought JF-17 on Chinese credit. Mongolia - again, why do they need more. They are quite fresh, although used. Egypt - they bought both MiG and Rafali synchronously. Account 1-1. In terms of one already managed to break.

[new max]

The main thing is to start making and purchasing for yourself, and there will be those who want our equipment. The main thing for everything is not to brag at once. Exclude the zoo. Focus on the most important and promising. Mig-41, Mig-35, Su-57, Su-35. In the policy of the military-industrial complex and uncertain purposes, all our problems.

[Demagogue]

Russia also expects the updated version of the MiG-35 to interest the current MiG-29 operators. And this is more than 50 countries.


He pushed it hard, even with Israeli and American MiGs - 50 is not typed.

Yes, it is clear that the only serious customers are Indians. This interview is part of the bargaining. Hindus already operate Mig-29 and have trained pilots, Mig-35 costs 20% less than the cheapest competitor, for its production HAL has a factory ready for assembly tomorrow and personnel familiar with the technology. Solid pluses for the customer. As for the performance characteristics, then as a killer of f-16 packs, and Indians see him in this capacity, instant-35 is quite consistent. Plus, the Mig-35 is completely from Russian components, that is, spare parts for Indians will be much cheaper than competitors. And this is essential. I would be surprised if we lose this tender.

[mvg]

Mig-35 costs 20% cheaper than the cheapest competitor

MiG is not cheaper than Grippen and F-16/18 / There was a theme that the Su-30SM is not much cheaper, and the Indians get it for 80 million green ... Well, the flight hour is not the cheapest. Plus disgraced on the MiG-29KUB

[marshes]

Quote: donavi49

Kazakh steppe dad - similarly.

What do you think they will ask for a gift, although it was not bad.
Buy, 2 lard greens are allocated annually for the purchase of military equipment. Although the cost savings are encouraged.

[svp67]

According to him, the United Aircraft Corporation is also going to change the approach to after-sales service, moving to a new software model, which will move away from disparate services to a comprehensive service.

Well, how much has already been said about this, how much has been promised ... if they really do, they can assume that they have received their salary for nothing.

[rruvim]

"According to a Russian official, the MiG multifunctional aviation complex has radically changed since the MMRCA-1, and now fully meets the requirements of New Delhi." By the way, this is a cardinal phrase, because MMRCA-1 is not a MIG at all, and not even his idea. Either Tarasenko said nonsense, or his press secretary "confused" something. In any case, non-professionalism. ..

[Victoria-V]

Again about the SU-57. Not yet, as long as there is a T-50. Many difficulties arose for some reason.

[rruvim]

Well, what are the reasons?

[Victoria-V]

Google a little if you do not read specialized magazines. Lack of engines of the second stage, weak EPR, switched on-board systems with the Su-35S, direct channels of air intakes, in which the compressor blades are visible, which are a very good reflector of radio waves. Andrei Frolov, editor-in-chief of the Arms Export magazine: The F-35 is a production aircraft. J-20 - pre-production, and T-50 at the development stage. The story with the Superjet 100 will be repeated. “They made this Superjet 100, but who needs it? It is not suitable for the regional, it is not suitable for anything. Aeroflot says they bought it and stand at the side. Abroad - no one buys. The plane is actually 80% foreign, ours is only iron. So what have we achieved? ” The last phrases are not mine, but Federation Council speaker Valentina Matvienko. Think the rest yourself.

[rruvim]

And what can I think of, I myself know very well that the 5th generation (if you imagine it) is supersonic at cruising speed (analogues of the F-22 and F-35). While we do not have such engines. So that the T-50 or Su-57 is a fiction.

[svp67]

Quote: Victoria-In

Again about SU-57. Not yet, while there is a T-50

Girl, I understand that you know better from your neighbor, but Su-57 already exists. One of the last T-10 received this name and on its basis they will now produce a small series, for which a contract has already been signed. So check your sources

[Victoria-V]

I have nothing to check. Read the above in the feed. Or read Yuri Borisov and Viktor Bondarev (I hope they are authorities for you). OODA loop - read for development ...

[Victoria-V]

Hope the T-10 is just a typo?

[new max]

Quote: widower

Quote: new max

Under the Soviets, there was a struggle for power with the help of money, now a struggle for money with the help of power. Quite the contrary.

2X3 one, and 3X2 another?

The USSR in the struggle for leadership bought the loyalty of a bunch of countries for money. Now, having some power influence in the world, the power is tighter, we are trying to exchange it for contracts that are beneficial to us. Now our goal is money, not power.

[ZVS]

"... The Vice-President of the UAC stressed that for this purpose Russia is ready to use the customer's infrastructure and create new jobs there ..."
I do not understand what it is ?! So in India these are moral, you can’t find another word here, they will create jobs, and in Russia the number of beggars will grow every year? Only half of the aviation projects are ready to be transferred to other countries for production, and their people are left without high-paying jobs. For this it is necessary to judge and imprison for life, despite the positions held.
And this vice president must be driven by a filthy broom from the KLA, to hell !!!

[Dart]

Oh, I see the topic is straightforward sweet for polymers and libers ... lope already naminusili sensible comments ...

[Incvizitor]

Su-57 is “open for cooperation on mutually beneficial conditions” and is ready for export.

And Russia is enough for 10

[Dormidont2]

we have 550 ICBMs enough

[Dormidont2]

Su57 must be sold with the purchase condition MS21))

[Gardamir]

Minus. There are real cases that tanks, aircraft, ships are entering the army. While they write that in about five years something will probably come. But export is always welcome. What is a third oil weapon?

[Demagogue]

Quote: mvg

Mig-35 costs 20% cheaper than the cheapest competitor

MiG is not cheaper than Grippen and F-16/18 / There was a theme that the Su-30SM is not much cheaper, and the Indians get it for 80 million green ... Well, the flight hour is not the cheapest. Plus disgraced on the MiG-29KUB

Tarasenko himself in an interview in the summer said that it was 20% cheaper. Brazil influenza cost 130 million per pc. However, he is unlikely to be able to carry the brahmos, which is important for the Indians. The cheapest option is apparently f / a-18 e / f, which Qatar took about 55 million per piece. This could be a tasty option if the Americans aim-120 and agm-158c to get it, and growlers on its base in addition. Then the Indians may consider this option. Only the Americans will not give technology and there will be no assembly in India. Mig-35 costs 40 million, can carry Indian brahmos and assemble in India. The machine is much faster than the iron f18 in terms of climb. Tasty option.

[snucerist]

Quote: widower

Quote: Vladimir 5

In your state budget is also a state secret ..

Yes. secret.
when you sit down to play cards tell everyone how much money you have?
so in politics. the enemy should know only what he was told.
Knowing your budget is easy to count on what you are capable of. and the ace from the sleeve never got in the way.
why GDP so calmly said Shoigu, develop new missiles coming out of the budget of the Moscow region.
then there is a nest egg

Stash, of course, is. I will say more: there are still many things in the pockets of Russian pensioners, if you carefully dig into them.

[Dzungar]

Raspi .... in the Indians have long been known. In many respects, all of these flight accidents, accidents, and air crashes explain this .... Well, it’s very convenient at the same time to blame the manufacturer

[Demagogue]

Quote: Victoria-In

Google a little if you do not read specialized magazines. Lack of engines of the second stage, weak EPR, switched on-board systems with the Su-35S, direct channels of air intakes, in which the compressor blades are visible, which are a very good reflector of radio waves. Andrei Frolov, editor-in-chief of the Arms Export magazine: The F-35 is a production aircraft. J-20 - pre-production, and T-50 at the development stage. The story with the Superjet 100 will be repeated. “They made this Superjet 100, but who needs it? It is not suitable for the regional, it is not suitable for anything. Aeroflot says they bought it and stand at the side. Abroad - no one buys. The plane is actually 80% foreign, ours is only iron. So what have we achieved? ” The last phrases are not mine, but Federation Council speaker Valentina Matvienko. Think the rest yourself.

Somehow you dumped everything in a heap. And epr and superjet. According to the su-57, it is the t-50, with air intakes and the blades of the old button accordion. Not this holds the project. The Americans of the f-22 rival also had open blades, and he did not lose the competition because of them at all. I, like you, do not know the internal kitchen, but I think that a number of systems for an airplane are simply not ready yet. From the engine and on the list. But here they could, as they could.
And for the imported stuffing in the superjet: Mig-35 was made on its components. And with the possibility of installing the NATO equipment standard. Those Indians think there to shove their own and Israeli electronics. And the import will replace the superjet, they started doing it until 2014, when import substitution was not profitable.

[merkava-2bet]

I was surprised by the phrase, it was delivered to more than 50 countries, I was not too lazy to count 26 tightly, including Israel, where there are already two MiG-29s, and other countries, especially Africa, have 5-10 aircraft. And what is strange, they say that modernization is unprofitable , the resource is eaten and corrosion, thereby understanding why Algeria abandoned the MiG-29SMT at the time.