Germany and France signed a contract to create a sixth generation fighter

NATO began developing the sixth generation aircraft. The French and German defense ministers Florence Parley and Ursula von der Leyen signed a contract for the development work on the creation of an aircraft of the future, the portal reports. Defense News.

As previously reported, the European Airbus concern and the French Dassault Aviation will begin work on the new Future Combat Air System (FCAS) project. At the first stage, which will take several years, the appearance of the future aircraft will be determined, a discussion of the requirements and the formation of common features of a promising aircraft. Design will begin no earlier than 2025. The first prototype is planned to be received in the mid-thirties, and in a series aviation the sixth generation complex should go by 2040. The aircraft of the FCAS project will have to replace the obsolete fourth-generation French fighter Rafal and the German Eurofighter Typhoon.

Lead the program to create a promising aircraft combat system Future Combat Air System (FCAS), which will be based on the new Next Generation Weapon System (NGWS) combat aircraft, will be France. According to the parties, FCAS will become a multipurpose combat air system using artificial intelligence, including elements of both manned and unmanned vehicles, including, and weapon.

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[Vasyan1971]

Oh how! Check and check you out, fe-35!

... and the sixth generation aviation complex should go into series by 2040.

And on the other hand, maybe they are not going to fight with us until 2040? ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Oh how! Check and check you out, fe-35!

By the 40 year, mattresses are planning their economy option — a cross between a lizard and the F-35. And not the fact that he will be bad. In the meantime, the Europeans are buying the F-35, for which LoHkid is very grateful to them.
And if our Sukhoi Design Bureau had such profits as those of LoHkid, we would have already flown a prototype of the 6 generation fighter for a long time.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: NEXUS

And if our Sukhoi Design Bureau had such profits as those of LoHkid, we would have already flown a prototype of the 6 generation fighter for a long time.

Well, I don’t know ... The same Lockheed and 5 are not very rumored to fly, not like the 6th.

[alexng]

In fact, Germany and France can seriously compete with us. This is not Shakaliya, they really do things there, albeit expensive ones. But it's easier for those who catch up, they take into account the mistakes of their competitors. Although in terms of "jamming" and "hacking" security, they can no longer catch up with us.

[XXXIII]

Quote: alexneg

In fact, Germany and France can seriously compete with us. This is not Jackal, they really do things there, albeit expensive ones. But catching up is easier, they take into account the mistakes of their competitors.

This is true, the main thing is that the competitor’s mistakes will not get stuck, otherwise you can get stuck with the errors .....

Design will begin no earlier than 2025.

It will be incomprehensible who will catch up with anyone, and indeed the race is this or just your way and vision. And judging by the time, their way and vision of the aircraft of the 6th generation ....

[okko077]

Firstly, the concept of the sixth generation aircraft does not exist, it is only being developed .... Although it can be said, but only to say that the sixth generation is the unmanned fifth .... But ...
Secondly, our concept of even a 5th generation aircraft is significantly different from the American, not to mention Chinese .... Americans do not consider our SU -57 a 5th generation aircraft, we do not believe that their F-35 is up to 5th in our understanding ....
Thirdly, it is not a fact that Europeans will not come up with something of their own ... and there are quite definite reasons for such a conclusion ....
About the essence of differences and conceptual views, read in my recent comments ...
If there is interest, I can repeat them ...

[Borik]

So it was here on the forum that the Germans refused the F-35, so they and the French decided to muddle the 6th generation airplane themselves. Well, let's see what if they even wipe their nose off the mattresses and give out something decent. That's just what performance characteristics should be in the 6th generation fighter. Probably he should fly in hypersound and go out into space and ....

[Alexey Vasilievich I]

"Probably he should fly on hypersound and go into space and ..."
brew coffee.

[alexng]

And wipe something ... otherwise it will not make it to the "six", literally and figuratively.

[okko077]

Dear Boric! The cart does not go ahead ... There are new opportunities offered to the military, the military decide how they can be used to gain an advantage and order the equipment of the industry, specifying its characteristics ... There is no need to invent anything ... Our Su-57 was created as an answer they don’t know how to use it for counteraction, because they don’t understand why they made the F-35 ... The time of 1-on-1 battles is long gone ... Only we still rave about air combat .... That's why the Su-57 and do not release ...., do not know how to use it and why it is needed, there is no concept, did not come up with GSH more ....

[Svarog]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Oh how! Check and check you out, fe-35!

I’m sure that the Europeans will make a great plane, but there’s nothing much to rejoice about ..

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Svarog

I'm sure the Europeans will make a great plane

Maybe, maybe ... But to step over a generation? Not having worked the previous?
Anyway, who knows what this 6th generation is, if the possibilities of the 5th are not revealed to the end?
Who knows what is ripening in the minds of adversaries?

[demo]

And in our minds that nothing is ripening?
Although.........
Which side to look at !?

[Altona]

Quote: Svarog

I'm sure the Europeans will make a great plane

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We can do it too. The main thing is that he justifies the declared characteristics and goes into the series.

[Chertt]

began the development of the aircraft immediately the sixth generation.

And what else should they say. To begin the development of fifth-generation aircraft, a bit late.
And by 2040, something will come of it. (Will NATO and the EU survive by the fortieth year, in its current form ??)

[uav80]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Oh how! Check and check you out, fe-35!
...

On February 1, the German Ministry of Defense officially excluded the F-35 from the competition for a new combat aircraft for the Luftwaffe, and the French were not going to buy it ...

PS: while this looks like another beaver cut not those, not others do not even have planes of the 5th generation, which is already the 6th ... get another LohKidMartin

[Egorovich]

Two women is power , can swing at the 7th generation.

[Kharkiv]

defense ministers of France and Germany, Florence Parley and Ursula von der Layen

Yes, I yelled myself. Survived

[Alexey Vasilievich I]

"Two women are the power of the tongue, they can swing even for the 7th generation."
Yeah, the main thing is that the color is pretty and ryushechek more.

[prior]

The defense ministers of France and Germany, Florence Parley and Ursula von der Leyen agreed even with what spirits he, the new plane, will smell. And also about the cut of overalls and the hairstyle of the pilots.
In double-breasted now do not fly.

[Alexey Vasilievich I]

"And also about the cut of the jumpsuit and the hairstyle of the pilots.
They don't fly in double-breasted ones these days. "

Eh, what have come in Europe today - some "women" with a beard, others they have defense ministers. And immediately they agree on the sixth generation.

[iConst]

Quote: Egorovich

Two women are a force, they can swing at the 7th generation.

Duc, this is not to give birth ...

[Dmitry Bolotsky]

In fact, men fly, and grandmothers rule ...

[HAM]

Gynecologists gathered at the symposium, muddied the plane of the 6th generation ......

[Kharkiv]

Let's get 10 generation right away

[ficus2003]

Here the most interesting thing is that there is no USA among the partners.
This means that the United States will torpedo it and that Germany and France are really trying to create a (European) military-political alliance.

[Altona]

Quote: ficus2003

This means that the United States will torpedo it.

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This is by all means. Ishcho faq? Look, have you decided to take a pie from LokhKid and Boeing?

[Krasnodar]

Interestingly, 6th generation TK is multi-purpose combat air system using artificial intelligence, which includes elements of both manned and unmanned vehicles, using, among other things, laser weapons.?

[Altona]

Quote: Krasnodar

6th generation TK

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Speeding Mach 6 so without afterburner. Begin to come up with a skin for them. Otherwise, enta will burn passion in flight.
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[Elephant]

The plans are ambitious, plus the strongest economies in the eurozone. Really, the 6th generation can do it.

[vvp2412]

What they want to get is not the fact that they will get it! :) For several years, they are only going to think "for three" what in general should turn out in the end and what requirements should be presented to him! :)
Go there, I don’t know where and bring that, I don’t know what! :)

[Ros 56]

Well, he came out of nothingness, now you can not only read. And right away the question, where is the fifth plane?

[Alexey Vasilievich I]

And did they even create the fifth or did I miss something?

[Alexey-74]

Two women gathered .... and decided to create a 6th generation fighter .... but not immediately the seventh?

[Govorun]

Germany and France signed a contract to create a sixth generation fighter
And the United States approves of such an undemocratic step ...

[Operator]

"Defense Ministers of France and Germany Florence Parley and Ursula von der Leyen" - the sixth generation will have a dressing table, bidet and microwave, do not go to a fortuneteller

[Altona]

Quote: Operator

the sixth generation will be

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No. With antivirus and own OSes.

[valley64]

Two girlfriends decided the sixth generation airplane to weaken by the year 40 ... And why not the 7th or 9th generation?

[NF68]

I would like to believe that this fighter of the 6 generation will be developed and brought to mind not as it was with the transport A-400 M.

[AntonP]

Oh, so we will create a "10 generation" plane, while they create the 6th

[Errr]

Well, by 40, our Su-57 + group S-70 has all the chances not only to get on the wing, but also to be already quite a run-in "Russian troika". Even with all our slowness, there is plenty of time for this. It would only be enough will to achieve a real result. Enough to calm down already at the stage of creating flight prototypes.

[evgen1221]

Well, they sobsno understood that the promise promoted by him that the f35 would be sweet would have gone wrong, that’s why they took care of their model, and you need to hold your aircraft industry, why not, especially since the United States is increasingly throwing fortunes.

[Ural-4320]

Quote: Vasyan1971

Oh how! Check and check you out, fe-35!

... and the sixth generation aviation complex should go into series by 2040.

And on the other hand, maybe they are not going to fight with us until 2040? ...

And all around are sure that we are going to fight. Maybe you need to throw a coin in order to decide.

[pafegosoff]

By 2040 year?
Do they have Rogozin and Siluanov planning and budgeting?

[Lieutenant Senior]

Germany and France signed a contract to create a sixth generation fighter

And why not just the 28th generation, by the year 2176?

[tkoh]

Quote: alexneg

Although in terms of "jamming" and "hacking" security, they can no longer catch up with us.

Yeah, in these areas Russia is ahead of the rest. You think from the end?)

[Alex Nevs]

The expanded pontorezs, even if they are doing the 10th generation, will scare them all right away!

[tTshka]

A tanning bed and a hairdryer built into the cockpit will be distinguishing features.
defense ministers of France and Germany Florence Parley and Ursula von der Leyen ... PPC

[Dzafdet]

Give already the seventh, why trifle something!

[Igor Evgenievich.]

Once the women agreed, it means they’ll invent something.

[Ironclad]

It was necessary to start immediately the eighth generation! By 2100 they will finish the look, well, there everyone is amba!

[rocket757]

A beautiful move .... you can do it slowly, the main process, not the end result! Although the result will be, then when not be!

[bone1]

Immediately and the 6th? -And they have what? -4th?

[Rusticolus]

Interestingly, how do they plan to develop the 6th generation, if only the 6th generation aircraft is ours, and its characteristics and, therefore, the characteristics of the 6th generation have not been disclosed?

[APASUS]

And why not immediately start with the 7th generation?
The Chinese were led or what? Those, too, are confused with generations, the bucket that they release is considered the 5th generation, and all the others still release the fourth

[Gerassim]

Quote: Altona

Quote: Operator

the sixth generation will be

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No. With antivirus and own OSes.

And there will be windows 10 that appeared without windows 9, immediately after the windows 8.1

[bolt]

22 years to develop an airplane? I do not believe in the feasibility of such projects. Especially international. Someone will definitely "die" earlier. Or France, or Germany, or Europe. And the development team will change more than once. And the concept. And the economic situation in these countries.

And most importantly, this project is not economically or politically-military-unconditionally necessary. Therefore, in the event of occasional economic instability in these countries, funding for this project will be cut in the first place.

Moreover, when two women take up the matter ... Bad, in general, omen.

[mehan]

How many smart and sensible comments.

[lvov_aleksey]

well we scared them!

[cormorant]

The title to the article is such an epoch-making ... The Sixth Generation, Germany, France! And in the photo, two women are a gynecologist and an accountant talking about women's pads ...

[LeonidL]

And the two aunts in the foreground are the heads of the defense departments with the rank of lieutenant colonel?

[Evil 55]

Fun .. To jump from the fourth immediately to the sixth with practically no scientific groundwork and experimental development. Will the mattresses share technologies or "the girls decide, the boys will try"?