Is preparing a long-range strike on Iran. Will the battle give hypersonic "Phoenix" and "Bavara"?

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Quite a wide resonance in the circles of political scientists, military experts and advanced readers news and analytical Internet resources caused the news about the possible preparation of the defense departments of the United States, Great Britain, Australia, as well as New Zealand to form an expanded coalition to deliver a massive missile strike on the most important strategic targets of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which may include a nuclear center in Tehran, scientifically and research centers in Yazd and Karaj, a uranium enrichment center in Natanz, as well as a research and production rocket group SHIG ("Shahid Hemat Industrial Group"). Similar information was released by the American ABC television channel, allegedly referring to high-ranking military officials in the Australian Cabinet last week. We have been listening to the incessant "fairy tales" of Tel Aviv and Washington about "planned" strikes on Iranian nuclear research facilities since 2003, when the United States accused Tehran of secretly developing nuclear weapons.



Indeed, in the Central Command of the US Armed Forces (CENTCOM) and the Hel Haavir Command, over a 15-year period, a number of strategic aerospace offensive operations in the IRI have been worked out using both tactical and strategic aviation (including deck), and underwater and surface components fleetthat are carriers of the Tomahawk strategic cruise missiles in the UGM / RGM-109E versions of the Tomahawk Block IV and TLAM-C / D. That's just before the successful implementation of a real theater of military operations, most of these concepts are still very far away even with the participation of the powerful air force backbone of the “Arabian coalition”, which finally joined the anti-Iranian camp of pro-American henchmen in 2015, after the conclusion of the unwritten Israeli-Saudi agreement against Tehran (we recall that in accordance with this document, Riyadh even ratified the document on the provision of the Israeli Air Force with Arabian airspace to strike Iran But it happened against the background of the commitment of the then President of the Obama Administration "nuclear deal" that is extremely controversial and the opinion of Israel, and the opinion of Saudi Arabia). Now, Washington, with its aggressive anti-Iranian rhetoric, once again fully and completely satisfies all the anti-Shiite demands of Tel Aviv and Riyadh. But why, then, are there still delays in the implementation of the strike plan against Iran involving the “Arabian coalition”? The answer here is simple.

The thing is that by the beginning of the 20-ies, the ground component of Iran’s air defense had evolved beyond recognition. The 4 anti-aircraft missile systems of the long-range C-XNUMPPMU-300 “Favorit” (using 2-fly-wing interceptors 6,6H48EXXUMNXX), 6, Tor-M2, Tor-X29, and the X-NUMX troop-rocket self-propelled self-propelled systems, Tor-M1, and the 10th-10th-10th-10th-10-byp Bavar-373 ", in the PFAR-radar of illumination and targeting with a 99% probability there is a modern Chinese radio electronic element base, as well as an impressive amount of radar systems for radar detection of the Russian, whale national as well as national development. In the list of the latter, it is necessary to note such products as high-potential radar early warning and targeting "Najm-802" (has 5120 transceiver modules, operates in the decimeter S-band and is designed to detect ballistic targets and small-sized high-precision elements weapons), the Russian meter radar ARLO "Sky-SVU" with AFAR, as well as radar SPRN type "Ghadir" meter range.

These radars are integrated into Iran’s network-centric missile defense system, which for several years already has its own headquarters near Tehran, covered by the above types of anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as other systems. Ghadir radars are capable of detecting not only tactical fighters of the USAF, Saudi Arabia and Israel, but also DF-3A and DF-21 medium-range ballistic missiles of the royal Saudi strategic missile forces immediately after launch (at a distance of about 1100 km). As a result, the presence of Iranian radio engineering units of multi-band radar detection equipment in the western air direction (Persian Gulf) will allow to prepare in advance a flexible echeloned air defense system to repel high-intensity massive missile strikes from the United States Air Force and Navy, Hel Haavir and the Arabian Coalition.


Radar illumination and targeting of the "Bavar-373"


The effectiveness of repelling such attacks with the help of a network-centered air defense system can be judged by the events that took place on the Syrian theater of war 14 on April 2018, when the Buk-MXNUME, Pantyr-C2, S- systems in service with Syrian air defense forces 1 Pechora-125M, Kvadrat-M, Osa-AKM, and Strela-2 were able to intercept, according to official 10 data, the enemy’s cruise missile (among which were strategic underwater and surface-based Torahawk missiles, as well as tactical missiles are great th range «Shtorm Shadow»). The destruction of such a large percentage of enemy low-altitude missiles during the first strike may indicate only one thing: in the Syrian air defense, automated control systems of the Baikal-71МE, Polyana-D1М4, etc., are being actively used. Naturally, there are similar systems in Iran, and therefore the forces of the air defense of this state are capable of intercepting a much larger number of enemy anti-radar and cruise missiles during the first strike. Noticeably complicate the issue relevant, given the complex mountainous terrain of Iran.

Yes, and a powerful "otvetka" from the side of the missile units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, which have Ghadr-110, Sajil-2, Shihab-3 and Khorramshahr medium-range ballistic missiles (with the ability to equip multiple-unit weapons with several combat units ) literally in the first hours of the escalation of hostilities, the US Air Force will deprive the airfields of Al-Dafra (UAE), Al-Udeid (Qatar), Isa (Bahrain), Al-Salem (Kuwait), Ahmed Al-Jaber (Kuwait) airfields. The last two runway canvases can be easily damaged even with ordinary long-range rocket artillery used by Iranian missile units deployed south of Abadan, because the distance from these lines to Kuwait is about 85 km.

That is why, based on the above risks, the Pentagon relies on the use of Australia as the main link for the massive missile attack on Iran that is being worked out today. The most interesting point in the statement of ABC journalists referring to Australian officials is to focus on using the intelligence services of the UK and Australia (part of the Five Eyes Alliance, along with Canada, the United States and New Zealand) as the main tool for providing the United States Central Command information on targets in Iran to be subjected to missile strikes. It is even theoretically difficult to imagine that the defense department and the commanders of various branches of the US military (with a huge range of radio, electronic, optical and infrared intelligence deployed on aerial and orbital carriers, not to mention intelligence intelligence) needed support from London and Canberra for this kind of information. Conclusion: In this anti-Iranian “game”, the States can assign a fundamentally different role to Australia, which has nothing to do with providing additional intelligence information (it has long been noted on digital strategic maps ready to be loaded into SKN-2440 inertial navigation systems of strategic rocket carriers B -1B "Lancer").

The only scenario considered here could be the use of Tindal and Amberley airbases as the main aerodromes of a jump to reach the US strategic bombers B-1B "Lancer" on the frontiers of the low-profile tactical cruise missiles AGM-158B JASSM-ER on Iranian nuclear and military-industrial infrastructure from the southern and southeastern airways (the Arabian Sea and Pakistan). The training of personnel and equipment of various Australian airfields for the deployment and maintenance of Lancers has been known for a long time, as indicated by the numerous joint RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force, Royal Australian Air Forces) and United States Air Forces, during which several air bases regularly Not only the B-1B rocket carriers appear, but also the KC-10A “Extender” strategic air tankers (the regularity of such exercises can be easily found through Google). In March, 2016, a representative of the US Air Force in the Pacific, Lt. Col. Damien Pikart, announced the negotiations between the Pentagon and the Australian government on the deployment of these missile carriers in this country. According to him, the deployment of the B-1B squadrons of the 8 Air Force of the Global Shock Command of the United States Air Force in Australia will establish parity between the operational and strategic strike capabilities of the United States (and its allies) and the annually increasing military-technical threats in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region. Also, the machines should have a deterrent effect on the likely opponent


US Air Force B-1B strategic bomber missile arrives at the Amberley air base of the Royal Australian Air Force for a joint military-air exercise


Obviously, in this statement, the main threat implied a rapid strengthening of the combat capabilities of the PLA, as well as the expansion of the influence of the Naval Forces of the Middle Kingdom from the former boundaries of the waters of the South China and East China seas, up to the islands of the Second Chain, which includes the island The Republic of Palau, the island transshipment base of the Navy and the US Air Force Guam, as well as the island chain Bonin (Ogasawara). In the B-1B missile-carrying strategic bombers, the US Air Force command sees the only operational and most effective anti-ship "fist" capable of unleashing several tens or hundreds of modern AGM-158C LRASM anti-ship missiles on Chinese naval attack groups without the need to substitute a shock of the case. medium-range DF-21D carrier strike groups of the US Navy 7 operational fleet. But more recently, the deployment of “Lancers” on Australian air bases (especially on the northern Aving Tyndal) can be viewed from the perspective of a long-range raid to destroy Iran’s most important strategic sites. What are the advantages of such a basing?

First, unlike the closest air bases on the Arabian Peninsula that fall within the range of the Shihab, Sajil and Ghadr-110 missiles, Tyndal Air Base, which is more than 8800 km from Iran, is inaccessible to any type Iranian medium-range ballistic missiles. Secondly, we repeat, such a deployment provides for the B-1B squadrons to reach the launch lines of AGM-158B cruise missiles from the south and southeast operational directions, in which the density of the Iranian air defense divisions is far from the best, which means there is a mass of “gaps” (non-covered zones) in the missile defense of the southern sectors of the country's airspace. Moreover, due to the complex mountainous terrain in the areas of the Makran mountains and the Kukhrud ridge, many blind spots are formed for ground-based surveillance radar systems (Sky-SVU, YLC-8A, Fath-14, YL-11B, etc.) radio armed units of the Iranian Armed Forces, which is why the warning of the approach of hundreds of low-altitude cruise missiles will be minimal, which will create an extremely serious headache for the Iranian air defense system operators.

In this case, one can only hope for the effectiveness of the automated control system (ACS) of JY-10E anti-aircraft missile units, a certain amount of which was purchased by Tehran from the People's Republic of China. If a strategic object is covered by a layered air defense system based on several anti-aircraft missile systems (Bavar-373, Cube and Tor-M1), the proper operation of a highly productive automated control system can allow these complexes to distribute all the enemy’s air attacks as accurately as possible. according to the degree of threat, and then intercept them, even if they are found to be literally 4 — 7 minutes before approaching the battlefield. But even this is currently being written with forks on the water, as there is currently no information on hardware-software adaptation of Iranian Tor-M1 and other air defense systems to the JY-10E automated control system; It is most likely that such a link is only available for the “Bavar-373” air defense system, which was developed with the participation of specialists from CASIC in general and the Academy of Defense Technologies of China in particular. The effectiveness of the Iranian air defense system in terms of increasing the warning time of approaching enemy missiles from mountain ranges can be improved thanks to synchronization with the JY-10E ACS of the radar patrol and guidance aircraft “Baghdad-1” and “Adnan-2” capable of detecting a JASSM target -ER at a distance of 50 and 80 km, respectively, but there is no information about this linkage either.

Nevertheless, the Iranian Air Force also has a serious trump card - the Fakour-90 long-range air-to-air missiles, the serial production of which was announced on July 23, 2018 by the head of the Iranian defense department, Amir Khatami. Based on the photographs provided by the military news and analytical publication "Jane's 360", we have before us a natural copy of the American interceptor missile AIM-54A "Phoenix", the first production samples of which began to enter service with combat units of the Iranian Air Force, which have F-14A interceptors -90 / 95-GR back in January 1976. Then, against the backdrop of the Shah's period, military-technical cooperation between Washington and Tehran was at a height, and the head of the White House, Richard Nixon, decided to transfer to the Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi an advanced interceptor capable of effectively resisting modern tactical aircraft of the Soviet design, which entered service in Iraq and other Middle Eastern states-strategic partners of the USSR.

The Fakour-90 missile, which, in parallel with the aviation version of the MIM-23B Hawk, is supposed to maintain the ammunition load of the Tomcat interceptors in service, has a normal aerodynamic configuration with a cruciform tail of a large sweep and elongation. Control is carried out by four rectangular tail aerodynamic rudders of a large area, which makes it possible to provide a more or less acceptable angular rate of turn for intercepting targets maneuvering with overloads of 6-8G (these include Israeli and Arabian F-15I "Ra'am" and F-15SA , which in the strike on Iran will still be assigned a secondary role: anti-radar strikes using AGM-88AARGM missiles, limiting tactical fighters by their maximum overload). Judging by the announced range of 150 km, a similar 2-mode engine will be used, comparable in thrust and duration of operation with the standard Mk.60 Mod.0 / 1. It is possible that Iranian specialists independently made a prototype, and then organized the serial production of this type of engine, or perhaps purchased similar single-chamber dual-mode solid propellants for R-33 missiles with similar geometric parameters (the R-33 rocket has a diameter of 380 mm, " Phoenix / Fakour-90 "- 381 mm) and adapted them to the" Phoenix "body. Nevertheless, the speed of "Fakour-90" remained at the same (almost hypersonic) mark of ≤5M (4800-5311 km / h), which means that any Israeli and Arabian fighters will be intercepted at a distance of up to 100 km, even on catch-up courses.


Fakour-90 long-range air combat missile


The only technological moment on which the effectiveness of the Fakour-90 air combat missile depends is the type of guidance system, as well as the presence or absence of the receiver of the radio correction channel and target designation from third-party radar tools. If Chinese heads were still “conjuring” over the renewed Iranian “Phoenix”, the rocket could get not only the standard active semi-active radar homing head, sharpened only for work with the onboard F-9A interceptor radar ANC, but also modern inertial a navigation system capable of targeting from third-party guidance tools through a two-way information exchange module of the European Meteor URVB type. In this case, Iranian F-14A can launch “Fakour-14” on the aggressor’s aircraft, and, without waiting for the transition to active homing, escape from dangerous contact with the AIM-90C-120 or Derby missiles.

But on this subject of data, unfortunately, not yet. Conclusion: despite the possibility of complete destruction of the US military infrastructure and the "Arab coalition" with a powerful rocket strike, the Iranian air defense system does not have the full radar coverage of its high-altitude airspace in the highlands, which could completely arrest the US and Allied missile from the Arabian Sea and the Persian Gulf. Here we need an integrated approach to updating the fighter fleet of the national Iranian Air Force with such vehicles as Su-30MKI and Su-35С, as well as more "heavy" contracts for such air defense systems as Pantsir-С1 and С-300ВМ "Antey-2500" . Of course, the Bavars-373 should also make a significant contribution, but there are not so many of them in service.

If we evaluate the news of the planned strike on Iran from such a position as complete liberation in the Syrian Arab Republic of most of the enclaves of the opposition group “Free Syrian Army”, where the White Helmets cannot add their spoon to the geostrategic alignment, an attempt loosen the situation in the whole of Front Asia through the use of power tools against Tehran - the only reliable method for the United States that allows you to pull the blanket over to your side in the shortest time and then from the position and the forces to try to dictate their terms in the new round of negotiations with Vladimir Putin. After all, it was not by chance that Trump was advised to take a lingering time out at these meetings, which certainly cannot be explained by the hackneyed topic of the “witch hunt”.

Information sources:
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=21324
http://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/70308
http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/avv/aim54.html
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/27/07/2018/5b5a8dd19a794774a29c0896
https://lenta.ru/news/2015/05/15/b1austral/
http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/5403364
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  1. +3
    2 August 2018 05: 44
    One will be certain ... If they attack Iran ... There will be three hundred oil ... And even more ...
    1. +17
      2 August 2018 06: 31
      Quote: Vard
      One thing will be certain ... If they attack Iran ... There will be three hundred oil ...

      If they attack, then EVERYTHING will no longer be up to oil ...
      1. +12
        2 August 2018 11: 41
        Quote: Separ DNR
        If they attack, then EVERYTHING will be no longer up to oil.

        Do not entertain yourself with illusions wink
        Google:
        - Iran-Iraq war of 80-88.
        - Destruction of nuclear reactors in Iraq 78 and 81 gg
        - The defeat of the Iraqi army in 2003.
        And everything will be extremely simple and clear. soldier
        Yes ... maybe there will be a little more loss of amers and their allies, but ..... for that it is a war ..... And the result is obvious ...... there will be another current “Iraq” in place of the present Iran.
        And analog "Phoenixes" from Damantsev wassat can only confront ... Damantsev himself soldier
        1. +5
          2 August 2018 15: 45
          Quote: Random
          - Destruction of nuclear reactors in Iraq 78 and 81 gg

          Then they bombed the construction site, the work on which the Germans stopped. Now there is the operating Bushehr NPP, where Russian specialists are constantly present, including.

          About two years ago, I already proposed that Iran be admitted to the CSTO in order to shorten sweaty and sticky hands to some.

          Even now, one or more army games contests are being held in the Iranian part of the Caspian Sea.
          1. 0
            2 August 2018 18: 45
            Quote: asv363
            Then they bombed the construction site, the work on which the Germans stopped. Now there is the operating Bushehr NPP.

            The question is not WHAT was bombed, but HOW, what outfit of STR and MEDIUM, what RESULT is and what LOSSES are. soldier
            Well, about what and whose means of air defense were in Iraq at that time you yourself read wink
            1. 0
              2 August 2018 19: 25
              For my part, I focused on two points:

              1. The presence on the site of our specialists;
              2. Any blow to the power unit of a nuclear power plant, even if it is stopped, is a fact of nuclear terrorism. Essentially, this is at best a huge dirty bomb explosion. Do you have in mind the state - a candidate for nuclear terrorists ?!
              1. +3
                2 August 2018 19: 28
                Quote: asv363
                1. The presence on the site of our specialists;


                It’s not an argument at all ... because further concerns and ... loud statements ..... or Wagnerites weren’t our ... experts ?.
                Quote: asv363
                2. Any blow to the nuclear power unit, even if it is stopped, is a fact of nuclear terrorism

                Something I have not heard of resolutions regarding Israel wink
                1. +2
                  4 August 2018 08: 04
                  Quote: Random
                  Something I have not heard of resolutions regarding Israel

                  Did Israel once explode a dirty bomb ?!
                  Quote: Random
                  And analog “Phoenixes” from Damantsev can withstand only ... Damantsev himself

                  Is that all you read from the article? laughing
                  In general, you’re right, the gop-stop allies are many times stronger than Iran. But, Iran’s position is more profitable. Syria is no longer statewide, everything is not clear in Iraq, and you won’t do anything with tomahawks .. Iran, in case of war, will be the last bastion of peace in the war against tyranny! bully
                  That is why, Random, real Jews do not want a war with Iran. hi
          2. +1
            6 August 2018 21: 39
            Quote: asv363
            Quote: Random
            - Destruction of nuclear reactors in Iraq 78 and 81 gg

            Then they bombed the construction site, the work on which the Germans stopped. Now there is the operating Bushehr NPP, where Russian specialists are constantly present, including.

            About two years ago, I already proposed that Iran be admitted to the CSTO in order to shorten sweaty and sticky hands to some.

            Even now, one or more army games contests are being held in the Iranian part of the Caspian Sea.


            Iran is already in the CSTO - albeit not de jure, but de facto. And he established very warm friendly relations not only with Russia, but with Kazakhstan. This one railway is worth it! As I already wrote, this is the umbilical cord that will feed Iran in the event of a sea blockade
        2. 0
          5 August 2018 20: 07
          Google to help you, find the real losses of the United States and its allies in the former Yugoslavia and Iraq, with an overwhelming advantage, in quantity and technology, and try to understand the meaning of the term, unacceptable losses. The technology gap, in comparison with 80 - 90 years, is practically eliminated, the advantages of a surprise strike will not be, Iran has been preparing for a massive strike for more than one year. whom she can always leave. So don’t get carried away by Hollywood and Wikipedia,
      2. +5
        2 August 2018 13: 58
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Quote: Vard
        One thing will be certain ... If they attack Iran ... There will be three hundred oil ...

        If they attack, then EVERYTHING will no longer be up to oil ...

        The Anglo-Saxon militarists, instigated by the Zionist militarism, are cultivating plans for the restructuring of the Middle East and, in the long run, across the globe.
        Until Israel is given a blast of pestilence ... sorry for the face, they will continue to jackal around the region
        1. +5
          2 August 2018 18: 13
          Wow, damn it, as if I read an excerpt from a Soviet book from the time of the 70s, already cried out from nostalgia)) American militarists, a Zionist military - that's all)
  2. +15
    2 August 2018 06: 13
    Do not worry, we won’t get over and gasoline will not become cheaper)))
    1. +6
      2 August 2018 14: 18
      In this case, we will have a shortage of gasoline, since suppliers will send 90% of all gasoline for export, there they will give 3 times more for it than in Russia.
  3. +3
    2 August 2018 06: 33
    When they attacked Iraq, it was like the end of the world. And Iran is even larger than Iraq. Iraq could not defeat Iran in the war. This will be the end of the whole galaxy ... The galaxy is in danger. Per liter of oil will sell apartments
  4. +5
    2 August 2018 06: 50
    With the Americans and the British it’s clear, but where is Australia and New Zealand scampering about? They probably think that if they are far (on the outskirts), then they will not fall into the world mess. But in vain. Of course, I would not want to, because of the ambitions of the Anglo-Saxons, another bloody massacre began with unpredictable consequences.
    1. +4
      2 August 2018 07: 04
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I would not want another bloody massacre with unpredictable consequences due to the ambitions of the Anglo-Saxons

      Obviously, the US needs another hotbed of destabilization.
    2. +2
      2 August 2018 09: 03
      Quote: rotmistr60
      With the Americans and the British it’s clear, but where is Australia and New Zealand scampering about?

      These are always in the wake of fsch and stick their nose to all continents.
      1. +3
        2 August 2018 19: 09
        This is the British Empire. Australia and New Zealand have the Queen of England as their head, like Canada. And the United States is also part of the British Commonwealth - as the former British Empire is now called. They generally need to be perceived as a whole.
        Iran will have a hard time - there is absolutely no aviation and will not be able to upgrade for at least two more years due to UN sanctions.
        It would make sense to supply them with an additional S-300 from those available in warehouses, for example, those that were going to, but did not deliver to Syria. And also the Armor and Torah for the near zone. But in time, whether there will be calculations on them ... And of course, it is necessary to especially cover nuclear facilities.
    3. +1
      2 August 2018 12: 54
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Australia and New Zealand

      territories officially controlled by the British Empire. And the British with the amers have a well-known military cooperation. Where one is to insure there and the other.
  5. +4
    2 August 2018 07: 38
    Any blow to Iran will untie his hands. They will not think which side they beat and which airdrome they used. they will hit all bases ov
    1. +4
      2 August 2018 09: 39
      First of all, in Israel
      1. +6
        2 August 2018 12: 10
        igorbrsv
        "First and foremost in Israel"
        And with what pleasure Israel will shy away from Iran - you can’t imagine. You’ll send it everything in the arsenal, and at the same time get a hizbalka. laughing wassat bully
        1. +4
          2 August 2018 12: 47
          Quote: Random
          This Damantsev ... "dreamed"?

          Excuse me, did you live in the taiga for 2 years without the Internet? write such nonsense, 4 divisions of S-300 PMU 2 from October 2016 in Iran
          1. +6
            2 August 2018 13: 39
            [quote = mvd ru] [quote = Random] This is Damantsev ... "dreamed"? [/ quote]
            [Quote]Excuse me, did you live in the taiga for 2 years without the Internet? write such nonsense, 4 divisions of S-300 PMU 2 from October 2016 in Iran [/ quote] and you write “smarties”? what are the 4 divisions of S-300, with a massive attack with "axes", and after ... finishing off with aviation? -nothing!Perepashut, will not know where the S-300 stood.
            1. +3
              2 August 2018 14: 25
              Iran is not Iraq - the Americans will have to plow for a long time and the losses will be substantial, and Iran also has a ballistic missile system - and possibly nuclear charges to them.
              1. +7
                2 August 2018 18: 15
                About Iraq at one time they said that it was not Yugoslavia and "the Americans will have to plow for a long time and the losses will be significant"))

                Recover in a couple of weeks.
                1. 0
                  5 August 2018 20: 46
                  well, in Iraq they’ve bought more, much more than
            2. +3
              2 August 2018 17: 10
              The 4 divisions are really nothing, but the Bavar-373, a copy of 300, which they immediately put into production with Chinese help, is already something ... Now they will be given 400 more ... It's a shame for our breeders, they have been working for years, and politicians they distribute their achievements ... They would sell 4 regiment sets, and the plant would have money for development, and taxes to the budget, but what is there ...
        2. +1
          2 August 2018 12: 50
          Did the davalka dig a bomb shelter for itself? Arsenals for the whole Arab world is not enough. And in the end, someone can take the place of a beloved sheep.
        3. 0
          2 August 2018 12: 50
          They all got scared right away. I imagine this "shy"!
        4. +5
          2 August 2018 13: 24
          bloodsucker, do you know about EVERYTHING in Iran’s arsenal? Your 250-270 charges will not save you. Look at the map of Iran and your kibbutz. So then do not yell about the next Holocausts. The squeals of joy will diminish.
          1. +4
            2 August 2018 18: 18
            This "kibbutz" at one time bent the combined armies of Syria, Egypt, Jordan and other Arab countries that helped them at that time. Moreover, he bent several times. Although these countries were armed with the latest Soviet weapons at that time)
    2. +4
      2 August 2018 09: 58
      It is strange that the author of the article does not expect such a blow. Although the Australians can be regarded as provocateurs in this case, in response, Iran launches missiles in the CA and Israel, and voila, here is the aggressor! The USA wins in this scenario, the Inf.War begins, in which the states easily replay any coalition, the aircraft carriers are pulled further, and I think Iran is tryndets, against the SA, Israel and the states + satellite, there is no chance. In this case, we will see 200 oil.
    3. +5
      2 August 2018 12: 12
      Quote: 501Legion
      They will not think which side they beat and which airdrome they used. they will hit all bases ov

      Why do their warehouses and bases on the territory of Siri, the Israelis "crack" as they want and ...... no one hits the Israelis? wassat
      1. +3
        2 August 2018 19: 36
        Donetsk
        You seem really here Random. Iranian proxies on foreign territory are one thing, and the nuclear facilities and administrative centers of Iran itself are completely different. They have many missiles, many are hidden in mines - enough for Israel, and for terminals and bases with palaces in the Saudi kingdom ...
        Iran will have a very, very hard time, but who told you that he will be left alone? When not only the USA fell upon a small banana North Vietnam, but a whole coalition + the army of Yu.Vietnam ... someone kind and fair supplied the suffering Vietnamese with weapons, ammunition, aircraft, and anti-aircraft missiles. And the military experts appeared, and the North Korean pilots ... And after all, the Good and the Fair did not have a common border with the unfortunate ... and the unfortunate did not have oil (at that time) ... And Hegemon washed himself with all his coalition - washed his face with blood ... to depression with Vietnamese syndrome, to the crisis and pre-revolutionary state ...
        The Anglo-Saxons need a war - they came up with it, if they decide, they will receive it, and how it ends, Ahura Mazda alone knows ...
        But oil will definitely rise in price and demand for weapons will jump.
        1. +2
          2 August 2018 19: 39
          Well, we were not there. And we have our own methods ...
        2. +2
          2 August 2018 19: 45
          Donetsk.
          And further . Do not forget that the Iranian proxies are not only in Syria, but also in Iraq, which is largely under Iranian control - Shiites are in power there, as well as Yemen, where Husites can "suddenly" get very effective help ... And Lebanese Hezbollah do not forget - they have a lot of things in store there, and trained people - Israel checked, knows ... There are Shiites in Saudi Arabia itself ... and in the Emirates ...
          It will be noisy and unpredictable ...
        3. 0
          3 August 2018 09: 05
          Quote: bayard
          Iranian proxies on foreign territory are one thing, and the nuclear facilities and administrative centers of Iran itself are completely different. They have many missiles, many are hidden in mines - enough for Israel, and for terminals and bases with palaces in the Saudi kingdom ...

          You, dear .... "dark .. like a closet" .... "proxies" ... in "computer shooting" ... outplayed .... wassat
  6. +2
    2 August 2018 08: 22
    I think ... it's time for the Anglo-Saxons, along with the amers ... to the bottom of the world's oceans .... so too much she stockpiled in this world!
    1. +3
      2 August 2018 18: 19
      Vladimir Vladimirovich, your daughters are studying there))
    2. 0
      4 August 2018 10: 29
      how brutal are you
  7. +3
    2 August 2018 09: 03
    The article is interesting, just a question on the Bavar-373 air defense system? ..... There wasn’t one news that the complex was put into service ..... there were tests, I regularly look at the site of Yuri Lyamin (he clearly monitors all the news of the Iranian military-industrial complex) Iran site. Ru, - it has not been mentioned more than once that the Bavar-373 was adopted, from which resources the author Evgeny Damantsev takes data on the state of Iran’s air defense .... request what
    1. 0
      2 August 2018 17: 39
      So you yourself must understand, knowing the background (the contract for the delivery of 300 at 07, suspended at 10, renewed at 15), they worked with Bavar-10 from 373, showed it, tested it, from the ground up, from scratch not reached in such an external environment. It’s easier now to buy 400. And that Bavar, among one division, apparently, hovered at the stage of experimental military operation.
  8. 0
    2 August 2018 09: 10
    Iran urgently needs to strengthen its air defense system and purchase from us modern air defense air defense systems with all necessary related equipment.
    1. 0
      2 August 2018 14: 27
      Russia also does not need to strengthen the role of Iran, well, because they are also our regional adversary. In addition, in order to buy something, you must first sell oil, gas or tomato paste and pay. We cannot sell them ready-made products right away — it takes a year or two to make them. In addition, it is extremely important for Russia to settle affairs in Syria, and not lead to escalation. Therefore, frankly, let Iran solve its problems by itself. That's when he burrows in them - then we’ll help you, not to provoke a conflict.
      1. +2
        2 August 2018 15: 53
        Quote: engenius
        Russia also does not need to strengthen the role of Iran, well, because they are also our regional adversary.

        With what fright is Iran our opponent? The Israilites strongly set everyone on Iran, including Russia. In fact, at this stage we will benefit from a strong Iran, contrary to the wishes of Israel
  9. +1
    2 August 2018 09: 11
    Author - what does "hyper" have to do with it? laughing
  10. BAI
    +3
    2 August 2018 09: 20
    Four long-range S-4PMU-300 Favorit long-range anti-aircraft missile systems (using 2-missile 6,6H48E6 interceptor missiles), 2 Tor-M29 self-propelled anti-aircraft missile systems, several fairly advanced anti-aircraft missile systems were put into service. complexes "Bavar-1"

    This is not enough. It all depends on the qualifications of combat crews.
    1. 0
      2 August 2018 12: 16
      Quote: BAI
      It all depends on the qualifications of combat crews.

      And the availability of modern air defense systems wink
      Quote: BAI
      In service there were 4 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems S-300PMU-2 “Favorite”

      This Damantsev ... "dreamed"? lol
    2. +1
      2 August 2018 22: 00
      How many launches can they make, how many will reach the goal?
      But there can be false ones, to intercept which, the entire arsenal will go.
      Anyway, resources are limited.
      Here you need weapons of mass destruction with delivery vehicles.
      Iran now needs to announce that it has created nuclear weapons, while they will sort it out - have time to create it.
  11. +2
    2 August 2018 09: 42
    Let the Amer aircraft carrier sink to the bottom and point a finger at China. The steam would be released. Scary for the planet of course
  12. +2
    2 August 2018 10: 11
    For all their impudence and neglect of international laws, penguins will not decide to war with Iran, no matter how Jews push this idea.
    1. +2
      2 August 2018 12: 17
      Quote: Rostislav
      With all their impudence and neglect of international laws, penguins will not decide to war with Iran,

      Like "two fingers ... about .. asphalt" wassat THERE is more than ALL in abundance soldier
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    1. +5
      2 August 2018 13: 12
      The economy of post-industrial society is not adapted to war. Absolutely. Consumer society makes the lion's share of all GDP in the service of self, beloved. This is how to compare men weighing 80 and 380 kilograms.
      It’s just as hard for me to imagine how Apple’s 700 billion-dollar capitalization could help America in a military conflict.
      In general, I recommend that you look at the structure of US GDP and compare it with the GDP of Russia and China. If the United States and the roll, then in the immense belly and buttocks - a typical physique of a typical American.
      And the value of defense potential does not always correlate with the value of GDP.
      1. +1
        6 August 2018 23: 06
        GDP structure

        USA. Industrial production - 15%, agriculture and fisheries - 1%, construction - 3%. Total real sector - 19%. The rest is trade and various kinds of services: from manicure to transport and financial.

        China. Industrial production - 40%, agriculture - 10%, construction - 7%. The share of the real sector is 57%. It turns out that the size of the real sector of China's economy is almost three times larger than the American one.

        Russia. Industrial production - 30,5%, agricultural and fishing - 4,2%, construction - 7,4%. Total - 42.1%
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  14. 0
    2 August 2018 11: 58
    The only question is what could be the consequences of an attack on Iran and the destruction of state infrastructure for the region and at the global level. And for whom.
    1. +2
      2 August 2018 12: 19
      Quote: iouris
      The only question is what could be the consequences of an attack on Iran and the destruction of state infrastructure for the region and at the global level. And for whom.

      Operation Desert Storm, January 17 - February 28, 1991 - practically the result will be the same soldier
      1. 0
        2 August 2018 14: 29
        The same result will certainly not happen, but there will be an armed conflict with a long continuation and heavy losses on both sides - Iran is not Iraq, there will be no need to wait for a victorious walk.
        1. 0
          2 August 2018 19: 01
          Quote: Vadim237
          Iran is not Iraq, you won’t have to wait for a victorious walk.

          Have you forgotten the story? How Iraq "scented" Iran wink
          I REMEMBER that:
          "...... By the beginning of the war, Iran had 1740 tanks, 445 planes and 500 helicopters, by the end of the war, 1000 tanks, 65 aircraft and 65 helicopters remained in operational condition. Iraq, at the beginning of the war, had 2700 tanks, 332 aircraft and 40 helicopters, and by the end of the war 4500 tanks, 500 aircraft and 150 helicopters. "
          link- http://www.irna.ir/fa/News/81318456
          These statistics were cited in 2014 by the Fund for the Protection and Publication of the Values ​​of the Holy Defense of Iran soldier
    2. 0
      2 August 2018 13: 26
      None, there is a desert. And here's what to do with 80 million people. The question is
      1. +2
        2 August 2018 17: 50
        Good desert however
  15. 0
    2 August 2018 13: 03
    I don’t know whether to laugh or something ... The abundance of tsifiri, as always, with a full flight of fancy .... How many strategists from Australia fly? The author forgot about the presence of a powerful US air base on the island of Diego Garcia, located just in the middle of the planned route from Australia? Where are the strategists who flew to Australia for the exercises based ... Are they going to fly to Australia and then from there to Iran sideways past Malaysia, Sri Lanka and India? When they have a direct road with Diego Garcia ... I do not understand the logic of those who wrote .....

    The second - an attack on Iran will provoke missile attacks on the state of Israel, and not on old SCADS ... I’m not sure that the Israeli air defense-missile defense system will cope with this ... And if, even before the raid, a third party will use electronic means against Israel ... And there will be a pogrom of various emirates and other US allies in the region. Plus, I think the departure of these carriers will be recorded by the geostatic satellite of Russia, which controls the Diego Garcia atoll ...

    This is not even science fiction ... well, right, in every General Staff of a self-respecting army, just in case, there should be a plan of a tank attack on Mars ... I still think - this is how many wives it was necessary to spend, how much to turn the tsifiri brought down upon us. ... And I just can’t understand - for what ??????
    1. -1
      2 August 2018 14: 09
      Quote: Santor
      And if, even before the raid, a third party will use electronic means against Israel.
      Wow, and if this same third in the tinsel rakes and melts, then what?
    2. 0
      2 August 2018 19: 24
      Quote: Santor
      And if, even before the raid, a third party would apply an electronic strike to Israel’s means ..

      Write beautifully ... about Diego Garcia absolutely everything is correct Darwin is at the "devil on the pies" wassatand Al-Dafra is the United Arab Emirates, and Kandahar is Afghanistan, and if you still "ask" somewhere?
      But excuse me ... THIRD PARTY ... is it XTO ??? belay
  16. 0
    2 August 2018 13: 46
    an attempt to undermine the situation in all of Asia Minor through the use of forceful instruments against Tehran is the only reliable way for the U.S. to quickly pull the blanket back to its side, and then try to dictate its terms from a position of strength in a new round of talks with Vladimir Putin.
    "It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys fail."
  17. 0
    2 August 2018 13: 50
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    and you- "cleverness" write?

    I am writing FACTS to a person who still thinks that there is no C-300 in Iran, and I won’t rant about them or not, are you in a bad mood, problems? or you write first without thinking, and then read
  18. +3
    2 August 2018 13: 59
    In service there were 4 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems S-300PMU-2 “Favorite”


    This is only for defense, not against a massive attack. These 4 complexes do not solve anything.
  19. 0
    2 August 2018 14: 23
    Walking wide! Here you have Iran, and here you have China! So what about?
  20. 0
    2 August 2018 15: 44
    This country is not clear to Iran. It has bases for training Islamist fighters, but for what and why, who will say?
  21. +2
    2 August 2018 17: 16
    The main nuance of these operations is that reconnaissance aircraft and airborne planes that will fly along the Iranian border with Afghanistan and Iraq will help and accompany this attack .. and sail in the strait .. Kill them over foreign territory - start a war ourselves, not bring down - give reconnaissance and interfere during the strike and evaluate the results.
  22. 0
    2 August 2018 17: 47
    Quote: Santor
    The second - an attack on Iran will provoke missile attacks on the state of Israel, and not on old SCADS ... I’m not sure that the Israeli air defense-missile defense system will cope with this ... And if, even before the raid, a third party will use electronic means against Israel.

    Iran never attacks Israel from its territory; Israeli submarines are on duty off the coast of Iran, which can turn Iran into a desert.
    Therefore, Iran is building military bases in Syria to attack Israel not from its territory, and Israel periodically destroys them .....
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      1. 0
        2 August 2018 22: 25
        Gusinsky, etc. when we get
        Sometimes you need to read the media: Gusinsky never lived in Israel, he lives in the United States and Russia, by the way, Russia has no complaints about Gusinsky ....
        And you don’t put anything in Russia
        Russia and Israel are on friendly terms, for example, Putin invited Prime Minister Netanyahu to a military parade on May 9, and hymns of Russia and Israel sounded near the monument to the Unknown Soldier.
        Russia does not need Iran in Syria, Russia and Israel successfully pushed Iran 100 km from the border with Israel.
        The task is to remove Iran from Syria altogether, on this issue a couple of weeks ago Israel was visited by Lavrov and the Chief of the General Staff of Russia.
  23. +1
    2 August 2018 20: 09
    But while Iran is going to conduct large-scale exercises
    More than 100 ships and vessels will take part in the planned Iranian exercises, involving the Air Force, ground units, air defense, missile defense and anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as other forces and equipment.
  24. +1
    2 August 2018 21: 56
    Ask Kim what is the best defense against an aggressor.
    He knows a lot about this.
  25. +1
    3 August 2018 14: 30
    The US attack on Iran will trigger an instant attack by Iran on Israel, which will be difficult to repel.
    The Middle East flames instantly, the price of oil jumps up, the world plunges into a global crisis. But how to transfer the flames of this conflict from BV to Europe is likely to be the next US know-how.
  26. +2
    3 August 2018 14: 36
    Quote: alta

    Iran never attacks Israel from its territory; Israeli submarines are on duty off the coast of Iran, which can turn Iran into a desert.

    This is "the grandmother said in two." You forgot that Israel is a country of one strike (nuclear or dirty bomb).
    All ONE, and there is no Israel. Do not forget about this, especially since Iran also has submarines.
    1. -1
      4 August 2018 11: 41
      Quote: Apollo
      Quote: alta

      Iran never attacks Israel from its territory; Israeli submarines are on duty off the coast of Iran, which can turn Iran into a desert.

      This is "the grandmother said in two." You forgot that Israel is a country of one strike (nuclear or dirty bomb).
      All ONE, and there is no Israel. Do not forget about this, especially since Iran also has submarines.

      That's right, now imagine that in a situation of threatened destruction of the country, Israel can do. Presented? Now multiply by 10.
      1. 0
        4 August 2018 12: 01
        Quote: dolfi1
        Now multiply by 10.

        Ten lives? lol
        Quote: dolfi1
        That's right, now imagine that in a situation of threatened destruction of the country, Israel can do. Presented?

        In the situation of the destruction of the country, it is necessary to establish relations, and not get into trouble.
  27. +1
    3 August 2018 15: 57
    Quote: alta

    Russia and Israel are on friendly terms, for example, Putin invited Prime Minister Netanyahu to a military parade on May 9, and hymns of Russia and Israel sounded near the monument to the Unknown Soldier.
    Putin invites everyone, congratulates everyone, for and without reason, smiles at everyone, and this does not mean anything. The friendship of those in power has nothing to do with the friendship of peoples. Concerning the friendship of peoples in the electoral environment there is no consensus. After all, far from all citizens of the USSR, Jews were neighbors in a communal apartment (like Putin?).
  28. +3
    4 August 2018 13: 14
    I recall another analytegg when the United States was going to bomb Iraq. He spoke about Iraq almost word for word, and that the United States had fought with the Bedouins before, and now they’re “washing off with blood” in Iraq. He left the article in a note so that the author could be trampled into the mud, so that such analytics did not appear again
    1. -1
      4 August 2018 13: 39
      Forgive them, they are not reasonable ....
  29. +3
    5 August 2018 10: 57
    Quote: asv363
    Then they bombed the construction site, the work on which the Germans stopped. Now there is the operating Bushehr NPP, where Russian specialists are constantly present, including.

    Bushehr is actually in Iranand bombed the reactor in Iraq

    Quote: Random
    And the analogue "Phoenixes" from Damantsev wassat can only withstand ... Damantsev himself

    Alas, Sergey! This is the whole Damantsev. A huge number of numbers (an unprepared reader drowns in them, and a prepared one immediately recognizes the author). And as always shy from side to side. Yes, Iran’s air defense has improved compared to the beginning of this century. New missile systems appeared, including and own production, but mostly these are short-range complexes or a maximum of average. And do not forget that a huge number of anti-aircraft missile systems are complexes of the 70s of the last century. And then a small number of modern ones, even with new radar stations, will not do the weather. EMNIP said that 2 out of four S-300 complexes cover the capital, 1 - Bushehr. Something will be covered by Bavar. But this is a drop in the ocean.
    Do not forget that the Americans have quite a lot of experience in dealing with enemy anti-aircraft systems. The first war in the Gulf was also characterized by the fact that the United States practically neutralized the entire air defense system of Iraq and the fact that it “clogged” the air defense radar with interferences, creating a level of interference several times greater than was necessary.
    Again, an experiment conducted in our country (similar) on an interspecific training ground with fairly new complexes of the S-300, Tor, Buk and others series led to approximately the same result when the air defense systems were powerless, and only a reduction in the level of interference led to the fact that some of these complexes were able to shoot back. According to those involved in this experiment, all this caused a heart attack and the subsequent death of Lemansky.
    Do not underestimate this factor. And then we sometimes underestimate it when it comes to our air defense technology and overestimate when it comes to our electronic warfare systems ...
    In this case, the Americans will be able to apply the same technique with Iran’s air defense. Having created exactly the same situation as in Iraq in the early 90s, only at a higher technical and technological level ....

    Quote: asv363
    For my part, I focused on two points:
    1. The presence on the site of our specialists;
    2. Any blow to the power unit of a nuclear power plant, even if it is stopped, is a fact of nuclear terrorism. Essentially, this is at best a huge dirty bomb explosion. Do you have in mind the state - a candidate for nuclear terrorists ?!

    1. This will not stop anyone. The presence of our specialists there during the war is the problem of our specialists.
    2. When the kneading begins, no one will think about nuclear terrorism and the like. It is rather a political statement. And besides, why strike directly at a fairly seriously protected unit? But isn’t it easier to bomb the pumping station, which supplies water to the reactor cooling circuit ???

    Quote: Hottabych
    Syria is no longer state

    Has she ever been shtatovskoy? even being pro-Soviet, she participated in a coalition against Iraq

    Quote: Technologist
    Do not worry, we won’t get over and gasoline will not become cheaper)))

    That's for sure. Recently I heard such an expression.
    "In our country gasoline rises in price only in three cases
    The first case is when world oil prices rise
    The second case - when world oil prices fall
    And the third case is when nothing happens to world oil prices. "

    Quote: rotmistr60
    With the Americans and the British it’s clear, but where is Australia and New Zealand scampering about? They probably think that if they are far (on the outskirts), then they will not fall into the world mess. But in vain. Of course, I would not want to, because of the ambitions of the Anglo-Saxons, another bloody massacre began with unpredictable consequences.

    And I am surprised that Canada is not involved in this matter. After all, in Australia, and in New Zealand, and in Canada, one and the same country is ruled - the Queen of England. And since Britain is involved, then its dominions follow in its wake.

    Quote: bayard
    It would make sense to supply them with an additional S-300 from those available in warehouses, for example, those that were going to, but did not deliver to Syria. And also the Armor and Torah for the near zone. But in time, whether there will be calculations on them ... And of course, it is necessary to especially cover nuclear facilities.

    Alas. But we cannot get around the UN Security Council sanctions on this issue. Until 2020, there is a ban on the supply of any type of weapons, until 2023 - missile
    Everything that they have now - Torah, Shell, S-300 - were put before these sanctions

    Quote: 501Legion
    Any blow to Iran will untie his hands. They will not think which side they beat and which airdrome they used. they will hit all bases ov

    If Iran uses air defense against other countries, without understanding where the missiles or planes came from, it will thereby untie the hands of those countries. Already none of them will bother whether or not to use tactical nuclear munitions against Iran. Iran will put itself in a situation when everyone will be against it ...

    Quote: Vadim237
    Iran is not Iraq - the Americans will have to plow for a long time and the losses will be substantial, and Iran also has a ballistic missile system - and possibly nuclear charges to them.

    And what will these BRDS give? Again, a few “blows to the cities," as Iraq did? You forget one important detail. Coalition dominance in the air will be dominant, the air defense systems will be either crushed by interference or destroyed. For these launchers will begin a real hunt. Any truck that is more or less suitable in appearance, and the Iranians like to mask their launchers, both infantry fighting vehicles, and launchers of anti-ship missiles under civilian trucks, will be destroyed. Moreover, the location of PU in Iran is well known. And like the DPRK, a characteristic feature of Iran’s missile forces is the mismatch between the launch and the number of missiles. Launchers can be 30 pieces, and missiles 300 or 600. Why is this - HZ ..

    Quote: KVIRTU
    The 4 divisions are really nothing, but the Bavar-373, a copy of 300, which they immediately put into production with Chinese help, is already something ... Now they will be given 400 more ... It's a shame for our breeders, they have been working for years, and politicians they distribute their achievements ... They would sell 4 regiment sets, and the plant would have money for development, and taxes to the budget, but what is there ...

    “Bavar” about the definition will be worse than the original. What about the S-400 gift? Do not tell me who will give it to Iran under the UN Security Council sanctions?
    1. 0
      9 August 2018 20: 50
      Quote: Old26
      1. This will not stop anyone. The presence of our specialists there during the war is the problem of our specialists.
      2. When the kneading begins, no one will think about nuclear terrorism and the like. It is rather a political statement. And besides, why strike directly at a fairly seriously protected unit? But isn’t it easier to bomb the pumping station, which supplies water to the reactor cooling circuit ???

      1. If you already oppose - then to the end. For example, the specialists working in Dimona will not be taken into account either, because this is only their problem.
      2. Theoretically, you can do without them - by turning off the turbine and still reducing a number of responsible consumers. Everything will depend on the supply of chemically pure and demineralized water, the operation of the RDES, block and additional ADH. Perhaps the block will be successfully laid out, or perhaps about 60 tons, so it will form the basis of the "dirty nuclear bomb." I think that the isotopic composition in the 4-year campaign is not a secret to you.

      Whatever country is guilty of an attack on a nuclear power plant will only make itself worse.
  30. +1
    5 August 2018 10: 58
    And more

    Quote: mvd ru
    The article is interesting, just a question on the Bavar-373 air defense system? ..... There wasn’t one news that the complex was put into service ..... there were tests, I regularly look at the site of Yuri Lyamin (he clearly monitors all the news of the Iranian military-industrial complex) Iran site. Ru, - it has not been mentioned more than once that the Bavar-373 was adopted, from which resources the author Evgeny Damantsev takes data on the state of Iran’s air defense .... request what

    When there is no available resource confirming his thought, then from the ceiling or from a finger.

    Quote: sgrabik
    Iran urgently needs to strengthen its air defense system and purchase from us modern air defense air defense systems with all necessary related equipment.

    They need? New from who will sell them? We? In order to rattle under UN sanctions. Pretty will be the "trinity" - North Korea, Iran and ... Russia. You didn’t ask yourself this question, saying what should we do? Who is he to us, this Iran? "Travel" in Syria? So even in this case one cannot call him an ally.

    How many times has this “ally” allowed him to use his airspace to strike at the barmales in Syria? TWICE!!!! When they shot RTOs from the Caspian

    How many times have we been able to use the Iranian air base as a jump airfield? ONCE. And now, instead of taking the Tupolevs to strike from Mozdok on a short route with full combat load, they are forced to drive round the round, loading dozens of 22-3 kg caliber bombs from a distance of TU-250M500

    Wants to strengthen Iran its air defense? Yes, a flag in their hands and a drum on their neck. Let them deploy their complexes.
    In our country, those who advocate the urgent sale of anti-aircraft systems to Iran do not realize that they will not solve the miserable amount that they have and even put in spite of sanctions to protect the Iranian sky. And here in case of war, image losses will be colossal. We must be aware of the fact that there are four S-4 divisions, as well as two dozen “tori” and “shells” will not make the weather and will eventually be destroyed. But then what will be the pictures in the western editions - fragments of these complexes and headings like "The praised Russian complexes could not protect the sky of Iran". Do you think someone will understand that the same division was destroyed, because it shot off the entire ammunition and did not have time to reload ??? None. But the emphasis is that Russian air defense systems, sorry for my French, FUFLO - they will emphasize this !!! And how. Do you think that after this the number of people wishing to purchase our complexes will increase ???

    Quote: iouris
    The only question is what could be the consequences of an attack on Iran and the destruction of state infrastructure for the region and at the global level. And for whom.

    H.renovye. And I'm afraid for everyone. The Americans have once stepped on this rake, thoughtlessly destroying Iraq, which was a counterweight to Iran. As a result, they got ISIS in that region ...
  31. +1
    5 August 2018 21: 03
    Quote: Horse, people and soul
    In service there were 4 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems S-300PMU-2 “Favorite”


    This is only for defense, not against a massive attack. These 4 complexes do not solve anything.


    Do you think that 4 complexes are 4 launchers? The complex is a division. There are 1 launchers in 12 complex, 4 missiles each. 4 complexes are 192 missiles in one salvo. And according to some reports, 5 divisions were delivered there. I don’t know how they with transport-loading machines, of course, but even if we assume that they do not have them, which of course is unlikely, then in an hour and a half or two all these missiles will be ready for re-launch.
    Quote: Random
    Quote: asv363
    1. The presence on the site of our specialists;


    It’s not an argument at all ... because further concerns and ... loud statements ..... or Wagnerites weren’t our ... experts ?.
    Quote: asv363
    2. Any blow to the nuclear power unit, even if it is stopped, is a fact of nuclear terrorism

    Something I have not heard of resolutions regarding Israel wink

    About Wagnerites in the sand it is still in your fantasies, better remember 2008.
    . Quote: bayard
    It would make sense to supply them with an additional S-300 from those available in warehouses, for example, those that were going to, but did not deliver to Syria. And also the Armor and Torah for the near zone. But in time, whether there will be calculations on them ... And of course, it is necessary to especially cover nuclear facilities.
    Alas. But we cannot get around the UN Security Council sanctions on this issue. Until 2020, there is a ban on the supply of any type of weapons, until 2023 - missile
    Everything that they have now - Torah, Shell, S-300 - were put before these sanctions

    Yes, it’s straight, back in 15 Putin lifted the embargo on the supply of arms to Iran, modern air defense systems were delivered to Iran. In 17, the last S-300 division was delivered. Moreover, they didn’t deliver the PMU-1, about which they agreed before the embargo, but the SMU- 2, that is, quite modern. They would have delivered with -400, but Tehran itself officially refused. They believe that everything is fine with air defense and without triumphs.
    1. 0
      9 August 2018 20: 15
      Quote: Xscorpion
      Quote: Random
      Quote: asv363
      1. The presence on the site of our specialists;
      It’s not an argument at all ... because further concerns and ... loud statements ..... or Wagnerites weren’t our ... experts ?.
      Quote: asv363
      2. Any blow to the nuclear power unit, even if it is stopped, is a fact of nuclear terrorism
      Something I have not heard of resolutions regarding Israel
      About Wagnerites in the sand it is still in your fantasies, better remember 2008.
      . Quote: bayard
      It would make sense to supply them with an additional S-300 from those available in warehouses, for example, those that were going to, but did not deliver to Syria. And also the Armor and Torah for the near zone. But in time, whether there will be calculations on them ... And of course, it is necessary to especially cover nuclear facilities.
      Alas. But we cannot get around the UN Security Council sanctions on this issue. Until 2020, there is a ban on the supply of any type of weapons, until 2023 - missile
      Everything that they have now - Torah, Shell, S-300 - were put before these sanctions

      Perhaps you are a little confused. The Wagnerites are fighting in Syria, while our specialists at the Bushehr nuclear power plant are engaged in peaceful work. The IAEA is aware of their presence, i.e. UN structure.

      Those training facilities with a capacity of 20-20000 kW (heat.) Can not be compared with the power plants of Bushehr NPP - 3 GW (heat).
  32. 0
    6 August 2018 20: 25
    Quote: dolfi1

    That's right, now imagine that in a situation of threatened destruction of the country, Israel can do. Presented? Now multiply by 10.

    Thus, you will bury yourself, and with your own hands.