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If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it is better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine.




The strong expressions of the American and Israeli military leaders that have sounded in recent days have outlined, so to speak, the framework conditions for the forthcoming Israeli military actions against Syria. US Secretary of Defense James Mattis actually agreed with Israel’s “right” to make “sovereign decisions” on the bombing of the territory of that country. And his Tel Aviv colleague Avigdor Lieberman warned that if during these bombings someone dares to shoot at Israeli planes, then the shooter will be destroyed. Specifically, it was about the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems, which will either be, or already put into service with the Syrian army.

So, Israel is supposedly ready to bomb C-300 complexes in Syria. How realistic is this?

The first thing to be noted. These objects of attack in Syria, most likely, not yet. Probably, Netanyahu’s recent telephone conversations with Putin were devoted to this sensitive issue. During which the Israeli prime minister was hardly too hopeful.

For the question of C-300 is not so much a military one as a political or even geopolitical one. Especially at this stage of the Syrian confrontation, when both Russia and its other main participants put at stake something more than the operational-tactical results of this struggle. For the United States and the Russian Federation, the question of Syria is at least a question of their global prestige, world influence and wealth of the great military powers. Strategic retreat at this stage is tantamount to defeat, with all the negative consequences of the global level for the losing side arising from this fact.

In particular, for Russia, the question of its military-strategic viability in Syria falls into two related sub-issues. The first is the ability of the Russian Federation to reliably protect the state interests of its main ally, Syria. The second is the combat effectiveness of the Russian troops, as well as the Russian weapons located in this country. Russia cannot, without risk, suffer fatal reputational damage as a competent great power, to allow itself to allow the beating of its Syrian ally with impunity. For all over the world this will be regarded as evidence that the alliance of the Russian Federation is at an extremely low level. Russia also cannot allow its reputation as the world's leading military and armory powers.

It is on the edge of these imperatives that the Syrian air defense system is located, including the C-300 complexes planned for deployment there. At the same time, their non-delivery under these conditions no longer corresponds to the tasks facing the Russian Federation. The Syrian air defense, being limited in its capabilities by the lack of effective long-range air defense systems, will obviously be unable to provide reliable cover for its country and army. Which is equivalent to increasing the threat of military defeat of the SAR. And this, as we noted above, is unacceptable for the Russian Federation. It turns out that the supply of such missiles is a matter of decision.

At the same time, the deployment of C-300 as part of Syria’s air defense should not only significantly increase the security of a given country, but also significantly contribute to advancing the solution to a much larger scale geopolitical task.

The point is that the wide distribution in the world of highly effective air defense / missile defense systems, primarily Russian ones, has the property of exerting a revolutionary effect on the entire world military-political balance. And ultimately the whole system of international relations. The former absolute dominance of the missile and air power of the West, which had a paralyzing effect on the will to resist most countries, ceases to be an absolute value. And practically any country, hiding under a reliable anti-aircraft missile dome, will be able to neutralize the most powerful instruments of the military expansion of the West - combat Aviation and cruise missiles. And, therefore, it will be able to more effectively assert its rights and protect its sovereignty. For the world, most of which has long turned into a disenfranchised military colony of the West, these are really new horizons.

But they may be unattainable if Russian air defense systems in Syria fail. Thus, the stakes are extremely high. And they do not imply half measures or fluctuations on the part of Russia. The situation is best characterized by the well-known Russian proverb: “I took a tug, do not say that it is not a lot!”

In other words, just put C-300 in Syria and count your debt fulfilled is no longer possible. The work must be done in such a way that its outcome is guaranteed to be positive for the Russian Federation. In this sense, of course, it is impossible to fully rely on some Syrians alone. Moreover, they simply do not have a sufficient number of highly trained air defense specialists ready for immediate combat use.

And the enemy may not give time to prepare them. It is precisely because he, too, perfectly understands the true “price of the question”, which we have described above. In the foreseeable future, the West does not plan to relinquish geopolitical peace and give its “burden” to undivided global domination to someone. Accordingly, it is categorically not suitable for what may happen in the world if the Russian defensive military technologies and the Russian geopolitical model will be a success. And Syria is the place where he can try to bury both.

That is why the voices of the American and Israeli defense ministers sound in unison, diligently setting the future battlefield with supposedly legal frameworks. What only emphasizes is for them a new blow to Syria, and therefore to Russia's global position, the question is completely resolved.

Meanwhile, the chances of the Russian Federation and its allies to withstand this blow with honor are not at all zero. The echeloned air defense system created by them in Syria is not as harmless as Donald Trump is trying to portray, waving his arms at press conferences. The West has already tried to influence the balance of the world forces by massive shelling of Syria with the help of long-range cruise missiles. It turned out, to put it mildly, not very convincingly. Up to the disgraceful sending of part of the American "vundervaffe" as teaching aids to Moscow.

Next time, they will probably try to apply a slightly different scheme. In the framework of which the "sovereign decisions" of Israel can be implemented in the form of massive air strikes on Syrian territory. Americans are even profitable. You will not have to put your pilots under fire and risk a head-on collision with the Russians. And Israel, as an expendable material, will completely go away. In the end, Washington is absolutely no difference who exactly will destroy the Syrian air defense. The main thing is for the whole world to see that the attempt to nullify the shock military capabilities of the West failed miserably and the issue of global reformatting was thus automatically closed. And if they are the pilots of the Israeli Air Force, then the flag in their hands.

That's just not the fact that they will succeed. Several C-300 divisions, not to mention C-400, can destroy in a matter of minutes almost the entire enemy air force grouping, even if it includes all the rather large Israeli air forces and not only one. And destroy at distances that completely exclude launches of aircraft missiles. And if something, like the notorious "smart" JASSM missiles, still have time to launch, then April 14 may repeat again. For it is precisely the Pantsiri, the Buki, the Torah, and even the ordinary Shilka that are designed to kill such broken individuals.

And this is not to mention the fact that Israel’s attempt to deliver such a blow, in essence, on Russia's key interests, will certainly be regarded in Moscow as absolutely inexcusable. And then the Russian side may even completely disappear even the minimal motivation to contain Iran. For if someone thinks that the Iranian leadership in itself shows the greatest Stoicism at the sight of dozens of the corpses of its military who died under Israeli bombs, that is badly and fatally wrong. But in Russia, I repeat, patience can also burst. Moreover, she herself in this case does not have to do anything at all. Those wishing to get to the Israeli throat and without it will be quite enough.

So, if Israel is in fact capable of making “sovereign decisions” and not just pleasing Washington, then the legendary Jewish wisdom should tell it that it is better to fly around Syria to the tenth way. For him, this is really a brilliant plan!
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 3 May 2018 05: 00
    +5
    Syria is better to fly around the tenth road
    We moved near by the APU, we also need a look!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 3 May 2018 08: 02
      +3
      I hope they can figure it out without C300., Good morning Vladimir.
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      Syria is better to fly around the tenth road
      We moved near by the APU, we also need a look!
      1. hdgs
        hdgs 3 May 2018 19: 11
        +5
        Quote: Yuri Selivanov
        If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it’s better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine ...

        Having subtracted such an epilogue, I was already interested and went in to see who wrote SUCH.
        I do not know what you need to have in your head to SUCH to write.
        1. the most important
          the most important 3 May 2018 22: 44
          +11
          Quote: hdgs
          hdgs Today, 19:11 ↑ New
          Quote: Yuri Selivanov
          If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it’s better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine ...
          Having subtracted such an epilogue, I was already interested and went in to see who wrote SUCH.
          I do not know what you need to have in your head to SUCH to write.

          Probably the brain. All the same, it is necessary to fight on foreign territory, and not on one’s own.
          1. hdgs
            hdgs 3 May 2018 23: 03
            +2
            Quote: the most important
            Probably the brain.

            Yes?
            Quote: the most important
            All the same, it is necessary to fight on foreign territory, and not on one’s own.

            Fight? Another one is the same.
            1. the most important
              the most important 3 May 2018 23: 05
              +14
              Quote: hdgs
              Fight? Another one is the same.

              You can give up if religion does not allow you to fight.
              1. Vladimir 5
                Vladimir 5 6 May 2018 18: 02
                +1
                Fight with the current state of the Russian Federation, for yachts and Chelsea Abramovich or RUSAL Deripaskhili, bankers. Friedman and other foreign citizens, or the poverty of the citizens of the outback ... So why fight, because no one attacked Russia. That's when they attack, then defend ... So far, it is necessary to protect the living standards of the Russian population from thieves and corrupt officials, but here you can’t see the hunters ...
            2. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 4 May 2018 01: 11
              +1
              Quote: hdgs
              Quote: the most important
              Probably the brain.

              Yes?
              Quote: the most important
              All the same, it is necessary to fight on foreign territory, and not on one’s own.

              Fight? Another one is the same.


              and now we type walk in Syria ?? belay
        2. Alecsandr
          Alecsandr 5 May 2018 08: 48
          +1
          Exactly. Even a bad world is better than a good quarrel
    2. SETTGF
      SETTGF 4 May 2018 20: 32
      +2
      You, Vladimir Putin! I would advise you to remove the pile, in a different scenario, we will remove it from you!
      1. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 7 May 2018 09: 15
        0
        And detail? SETTGF, have you been discharged long ago? It seems that they did not heal.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 3 May 2018 05: 48
    +8
    Russia cannot, without risk, suffer fatal reputational damage as a competent great power, allowing itself to allow the beating of its Syrian ally with impunity.

    Something doubts gnaw me on this postulate ...
    the recent attack by the US coalition with the Tomahawks of Syria clearly shows that it can ... the question is, what the hell ... where is this red line? what maybe it’s not at all.
    Israeli air attack under the guise of a coalition on holidays is what?
    In general, I see that this practice will continue ... and it is not clear who is leading the world community by anyone, whether Jews and Americans or our politicians in the Kremlin ... or both sides are practicing verbiage ... wait and see.
    1. onega67
      onega67 3 May 2018 07: 29
      +11
      There is a red line, but it is very mobile and unstable, and it is constantly moving away into the depths of Russia.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 3 May 2018 07: 39
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      a recent US coalition attack by Tomahawks in Syria clearly shows

      What are Trump showcases designed for domestic consumption
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Israeli air attack

      But this is a reality when the Syrian air defense did not even move
      1. Tomato
        Tomato 3 May 2018 18: 06
        +2
        Tell me, but the fact that Syria is actually already torn to pieces (Turkey and the United States with its allies) is also for domestic consumption.
        And in general, excuse me, but the reasoning is pretty hilarious.
        They bomb you, kill your soldiers - ahhh, they are for internal use, do not pay attention.
        Alas, these are ridiculous excuses for domestic consumption. Like fairy tales about 70 downed Tomogavks.
        1. SETTGF
          SETTGF 5 May 2018 00: 06
          +2
          Tomatoes! As always, bile! In order to communicate on this site, your knowledge of a Latvian student with liberal views is clearly not enough!
        2. SETTGF
          SETTGF 5 May 2018 00: 24
          +1
          Tomatoes! Dedicated to those like you!
          "To shame a liar, make fun of a fool
          And arguing with a woman is the same
          What to draw water sieve:
          Deliver us from these three, God! .. "
    3. Silhouette
      Silhouette 3 May 2018 09: 00
      +1
      Something doubts gnaw me on this postulate ...


      And my doubts ended even after Yugoslavia. I remain confident.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 May 2018 05: 52
    +13
    Covering ALL Syria is not very simple. But inflicting unacceptable losses on the Israeli Air Force is a completely different matter. Israel is now band-eared "friends" can seriously substitute - just in the heat of struggle with Russia, and thoughtlessly - obviously they are poorly calculating the consequences of their actions ...
    1. andj61
      andj61 3 May 2018 10: 00
      +9
      Several S-300 divisions, not to mention the S-400, can destroy almost the entire aviation group of an enemy in a matter of minutes, even if it includes all the rather large Israeli air forces and not only its one. Moreover, to destroy at ranges that completely exclude the launch of aircraft missiles.

      The author has some kind of hatred mood! Several divisions - in what configuration? What rockets? Are there low-flying and subtle target detection systems? What kind of ACS and is there any at all? What systems for detecting targets, issuing target designation and targeting are available in addition to the regular divisions? After all, who will manage these air defense systems? All of this is important for proper use. In the 80s, there was already negative experience with the use of air defense by the Syrians - namely against Israel. And the biggest failure was the personnel - low professionalism and lack of interest and moral-volitional qualities of the personnel. S-300 should be delivered to Syria only if this problem is resolved at the proper level. Unless, of course, not to use the many years of experience in using air defense systems with our calculations ... And I completely agree with you, Eugene drinks


      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Covering ALL Syria is not very simple. But inflicting unacceptable losses on the Israeli Air Force is a completely different matter. Israel is now band-eared "friends" can seriously substitute - just in the heat of struggle with Russia, and thoughtlessly - obviously they are poorly calculating the consequences of their actions ...
      hi
      1. aiden
        aiden 5 May 2018 00: 40
        0
        Syrians will rule. not for nothing that they put on shoes and study with us
      2. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 7 May 2018 09: 21
        0
        Quote: andj61
        Several divisions - in what configuration? What rockets? Are there low-flying and subtle target detection systems? What kind of ACS and is there any at all? What systems for detecting targets, issuing target designation and targeting are available in addition to the regular divisions?
        Kapets. But really, is it necessary to tell everything in the media? No, you can laugh for a long time on the topic that the Pentagon, the CIA and the State Department now take almost all strategically important information on the Internet. But every joke already has more than half the truth.
        1. andj61
          andj61 7 May 2018 10: 18
          0
          Quote: nadezhiva
          Kapets. But really, is it necessary to tell everything in the media? No, you can laugh for a long time on the topic that the Pentagon, the CIA and the State Department now take almost all strategically important information on the Internet. But every joke already has more than half the truth.

          Then it’s not necessary to post claims that claim to be analytics, which are not much correlated with realities! By the way - all the characteristics I cited, except perhaps ACS, are not a secret for a potential enemy, and are determined on the basis of photographs of scouts - both satellite and drones, as well as according to electronic intelligence .. They can only be a secret for " the broad masses of working people "! bully All comrades who are at least a little "in the subject" understand this very well. hi
  4. cedar
    cedar 3 May 2018 06: 01
    +9
    The author was dragged to the "Battle" ...
    What a battle? The battle will begin when bombs and missiles begin to break out on the territory of the United States, Israel, Britain and France, who attacked Syria, and also those who are there in the six ... In the meantime, not a battle, but partisanism in its modern guise ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 06: 14
      +14
      Quote: cedar
      The battle will begin when bombs and missiles in the territory start to break ... the USA, Israel, Britain and France

      It (the battle) will immediately end. For what you have written here is a global conflict, with all that it implies.
      Somehow I don’t feel like ... I’ve been living for a long time, I’m used to it already request
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      2. andj61
        andj61 3 May 2018 10: 03
        +3
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: cedar
        The battle will begin when bombs and missiles in the territory start to break ... the USA, Israel, Britain and France

        It (the battle) will immediately end. For what you have written here is a global conflict, with all that it implies.
        Somehow I don’t feel like ... I’ve been living for a long time, I’m used to it already request

        So I’ve gotten used to it for a long time too ... request
        Maybe it's time to wean? wink In any case, they will have to lose more! bully hi
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      3. zoolu350
        zoolu350 4 May 2018 07: 12
        +2
        There will be no global conflict. The owners of the Fed did not create for themselves PARADISE LIFE and ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY over the world in order to lose it because of some sort of Syria, Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic states. It is a pity that your owners from the oligarchy of the Russian Federation have even lower motivation, because they are afraid to lose their trough with nishtyaks in the West.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 May 2018 07: 24
          +3
          Mafynka, since you personally do not see absolutely anything beyond your trough, it’s clear that your life model in general is precisely at the trough level.
          This is the wrong model.
          Quote: zoolu350
          There will be no global conflict.

          I also really hope so. However, unfortunately, it least depends on me (and on you) - the mechanism “word for word, something on the table”, unfortunately, has not been canceled yet.
          Like this request
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          2. zoolu350
            zoolu350 7 May 2018 05: 40
            +1
            The faithful dog of the Russian oligarchy did not come up with anything better than how to translate arrows? Wretchedly. Seen after March 18 completely relaxed. In Big Deals, Golovan Jack doesn’t have any word for word .... on the table. Everything is measured in billions of dollars, millions of mob. reserve, thousands of tanks, etc. Therefore, even though you are trying to cover up the cowardice, greed and wretchedness of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and its hired manager, nothing will come of it. At least in.
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  5. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 06: 04
    +4
    The author really wants a "little bang-bang". All other arguments are sharpened precisely for this. The fact that its main part is far-fetched (and stretched over the globe) does not bother the author.
    Author play sand, article minus request
    1. andj61
      andj61 3 May 2018 10: 09
      +1
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      The author really wants a "little bang-bang". All other arguments are sharpened precisely for this. The fact that its main part is far-fetched (and stretched over the globe) does not bother the author.

      There is such a thing!
      But bluffing often also plays a role!
      If Kennedy knew about the real state of the nuclear missile forces of the USSR, it is not yet known how the Caribbean crisis would end. According to the now available data, Kennedy was sure that the nuclear forces of the USSR were three times stronger than it was in real life. So here - perhaps this article was written just to exaggerate our capabilities - hat-inspiring moments in it! hi
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 10: 15
        0
        Quote: andj61
        perhaps this article was written to exaggerate our capabilities

        Read other articles by this author. They all look alike somewhere yes
        But in this, IMHO, the author surpassed himself request
      2. zoolu350
        zoolu350 4 May 2018 07: 17
        +1
        Kennedy knew almost everything about the nuclear potential of the USSR and the generals urged him to start a military operation, since in the conditions of overwhelming superiority in nuclear weapons, the secondary school had every chance of victory. But the owners of the Fed, having considered the consequences of losing their dominant position in the event of a war, ordered Kennedy to sink.
        1. hdgs
          hdgs 4 May 2018 08: 17
          0
          Quote: zoolu350
          But the owners of the Fed, having considered the consequences of losing their dominant position in the event of a war, ordered Kennedy to sink.

          Yeah, here it is. It turns out that the USSR turned on the rear and rewound everything, fulfilling the requirements of the United States, this is called "the Fed ordered Kennedy to drain."
          What just do not write in Runet.
          1. Alecsandr
            Alecsandr 5 May 2018 08: 51
            +2
            US also rockets removed from Turkey
          2. zoolu350
            zoolu350 7 May 2018 05: 12
            0
            And the USSR was going to attack the school of secondary schools? You are voicing the Fed version of the hosts. But in fact, the Caribbean crisis is a complete drain of the Fed owners. Possessing an overwhelming superiority over the USSR in naval warheads and delivery vehicles and an absolute superiority over the USSR Navy, to achieve a small concession (missile withdrawal). At the same time, he undertakes not to invade the territory (which becomes a loyal enemy base of his own), leaving the troops of the USSR there and removing his missiles from Turkey. Therefore, the owners of the Fed are afraid to a terrible repetition of the Caribbean crisis and shove the version voiced by you into the heads of people around the world.
  6. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 3 May 2018 06: 20
    +9
    Strange analysis. The author proceeds from the fact that Israel in the Middle East is simply hated and just waiting for the moment to destroy it. It's not like that at all. Israel is not hated, only where fanatical religious regimes have been established, while others are drawn to Israel, seeing in it a source of prosperity, an example of development. In the same Palestine, ordinary people simply dream of working in Israel. Not everything is so simple. Unfortunately, the Middle East is a religious patrimony, in which religious and tribal differences are strong, which simply cannot be stopped peacefully, this territory is simply doomed to war ..
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 May 2018 11: 34
      +12
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      The author proceeds from the fact that Israel in the Middle East is simply hated and just waiting for the moment to destroy it.

      And you, dear, did not think about the question, but who decided at some point that a simple, for example, a carpenter, or a carpenter from the USA terribly hates a janitor or a driver from the Russian Federation? Or, for example, a seamstress from Israel, dreams of the death of a baker from Iran? And these issues work both ways.
      This is the question of who needs war at all, hatred between nations, religious denominations and between states.
      There will be wars, and confrontation, too, only between whom? Someone at the top decides that another people, the state is an enemy, and after that carpenters, drivers, seamstresses, bakers and so on begin to die, who have nothing to share among themselves, and who have not seen each other in the eye.
    2. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 3 May 2018 12: 20
      0
      Unfortunately, the Middle East is a religious patrimony

      why unfortunately !? If people thought more about the commandments and less about tolerance and profit, then it became possible and easier to live. But humanity has gone the wrong way to the development of a technocratic society and will destroy itself over time.
    3. Pissarro
      Pissarro 3 May 2018 23: 20
      +1
      others are drawn to Israel


      I live in the Middle East, but I don’t know the country that is reaching for Israel. Even with Iran as a common enemy of the Sunni monarchies and Israel, relations are officially icy, and in fact the patience of a forced ally. But reach for what?
  7. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 3 May 2018 06: 31
    +2
    Yes, the author sees the solution to all problems in the C300. I suppose his disappointment will be bitter. The bombardment of Syria by coalition and Israel aviation will not stop, the C300 will not help here. He just is not capable of it, like the C400.
    1. onega67
      onega67 3 May 2018 07: 32
      +2
      Patchima? In such cases it is necessary, as they say "justify", and not rush words!
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 3 May 2018 07: 41
        +3
        Quote: onega67
        Patchima? In such cases it is necessary, as they say "justify", and not rush words!

        To Patam, that any defense has a limit, the defense is overloaded, a hole breaks through it and through this hole everything else is destroyed
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  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 May 2018 07: 09
    +2
    US Secretary of Defense James Mattis actually agreed with Israel’s “right” to make “sovereign decisions” about bombing the country.

    the war dog gave his right to kill civilians ... bandits flow to terrorists ... angry
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 May 2018 07: 15
    +4
    if Israel is in fact capable of making “sovereign decisions,” and not just pleasing Washington, then legendary Jewish wisdom should tell him that it is better to fly around Syria the tenth road
    Maybe you are right. But what kind of wisdom can be said if the prestige of Israel as a powerful state with far-reaching ambitions in this region is at stake. I think so. that strikes will continue to be carried out without flying into Syrian territory, or integrating into coalition planes, as was done on holidays.
  10. Gardamir
    Gardamir 3 May 2018 07: 55
    0
    Why is it better for the author
    better to give in Syria than in Ukraine
    ?
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 08: 02
      +9
      Quote: Gardamir
      Why is it better for the author
      better to give in Syria than in Ukraine
      ?

      GardamirDo you knock dust out of the carpet right in the room, or do you go outside? wink
  11. nikvic46
    nikvic46 3 May 2018 07: 59
    +5
    Russia has already shown its power by destroying ISIS, and now the author writes that our guys need to be sent to service the new air defense systems. After the defeat in Vietnam and the protests in America itself, the Americans act very carefully,
    sending small contingents of their troops that "fight" with the hands of the opposition Assad, not disdaining to attract to their side
    just gangsters and countries that are religiously opposed to Assad. It’s impossible to hope that China will intervene in the Middle East conflict. Iran has its own tasks in Syria. America only wants Russia to get stuck in the war in Syria. By creating various provocations, the United States seeks to show Russia in a negative way. I have no doubt that Russia will fulfill all the tasks set by the command. But I do not hope for Arab gratitude to Syria. History has shown when peace comes and in the countries we helped change leaders, we are just
    forget it. Forget it to say the least.
  12. Clueless
    Clueless 3 May 2018 08: 00
    +1
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Strange analysis. The author proceeds from the fact that Israel in the Middle East is simply hated and just waiting for the moment to destroy it. It's not like that at all. Israel is not hated, only where fanatical religious regimes have been established, while others are drawn to Israel, seeing in it a source of prosperity, an example of development. In the same Palestine, ordinary people simply dream of working in Israel. Not everything is so simple. Unfortunately, the Middle East is a religious patrimony, in which religious and tribal differences are strong, which simply cannot be stopped peacefully, this territory is simply doomed to war ..


    An example of countries from the area that reach for Israel :)
  13. Moore
    Moore 3 May 2018 08: 04
    +5
    If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it is better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine.

    I doubt the choice. If a serious move begins in Syria, crested ghouls will also receive a “fas” command.
    ... the stakes are extremely high. And they do not imply half measures and fluctuations on the part of Russia.

    If you look at everything that is happening over-cynically, is the Jewish hutspa not happy with Russia? Well, yes, they are bombing, they are sprinkling to the edge. But after all, bombing the Iranians and Syrians, and in conditions of just a truce in hostilities? Those. we play the classic here, we don’t play here, we wrapped the herring here - it seems that we are rendering real help, but it seems that we are not getting into internal disassemblies.
    And then there Netanyahu drives to the Kremlin as a job - you can squeeze something for yourself, loved ones.
    I would like to make a mistake and consider that principles and justice are more important for our leadership. That's just not always possible.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 3 May 2018 10: 09
      +2
      Quote: Moore
      If you look at everything that happens is super cynical ...

      Well, why so soon? A normal, sober look at things has not prevented anyone ...
      Quote: Moore
      bombing the Iranians and Syrians and in conditions of just a ceasefire in hostilities

      I understand that this is "like irony." I don’t understand what exactly doesn’t suit you in this? When is it, objectively, exactly so?
      Quote: Moore
      it’s like we provide real help, but it’s like we’re not getting into internal disassemblies

      Remove both "like", and get an extremely concise description of the real, ahem, situation.
      Quote: Moore
      you can squeeze something for yourself, your beloved

      Well, it’s starting ...
      Quote: Moore
      I would like to make a mistake and consider that principles and justice are more important for our leadership

      "Justice" - with this in kindergarten. In international relations, in addition to bare expediency, there was, is not and will not be anything else.
      "Principles" - what, let me ask? Lay belly (not mine) for Brother Assad?
      #Danubyday ...
      Or what did I understand wrong?
    2. flicker
      flicker 4 May 2018 10: 56
      0
      And then there Netanyahu in the Kremlin as a driver drives
      Still would.
      The US is pushing Israel into a war in Syria; this war could result in Israel losing the state and killing the Jewish population. And Netanyahu understands this perfectly, but unlike the United States (for which Israel has the same consumables as the others), Israel loves and does not want its death. It turns out that Israel (read: Netanyahu) cannot disobey the United States and cannot fulfill the requirements either. This is Netanyahu and is heading towards Putin: since he needs to crack in Syria (which the states demand) and not get back (which is in the interests of Israel itself) for Putin to stop Iran. But it cannot go on forever. So Israel faces a choice: bad (disobeying the United States) and very bad - getting involved in a war.
      1. Not in the system
        Not in the system 6 May 2018 16: 47
        0
        Why should they disobey the USA? And, in general, why will Israel listen to the United States? The beating of "Liberty" with the American military personnel for Jews generally went unpunished. They will do what they want. It is still unknown who commands whom the USA is Israel or vice versa (the latter is more probable).
  14. Silhouette
    Silhouette 3 May 2018 08: 52
    +5
    Justice and coherence suggest that Israel’s sovereign right to strike at government troops and targets in Syria will not correspond to a similar answer, but superior in scale and effectiveness to the control centers of those who thought of it before. First of all, located on the territory of the sovereign.
  15. Ural resident
    Ural resident 3 May 2018 09: 11
    +1
    I wonder how you can use the S-300 on carriers? There are several states on one piece, missiles are launched either from the territory of another state or from the sea. No one will fly into Syria. Shoot before launch seems to be "not very", after launch, it’s too late. The author means that you need to shoot down fighters on take-off? The S-300 here is clearly not against Israel, but against the so-called "coalition" if it plans to carry out massive bombing of Syrian targets.
  16. Gennadich
    Gennadich 3 May 2018 09: 12
    0
    is it better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine? yes yes, the Syrians are more Slavs and relatives to us ... yes what answer can terpils give the same question
  17. konstantin68
    konstantin68 3 May 2018 10: 59
    +2
    The article is capricious. It is like a chess game in which only you go, and the opponent looks and sighs. Only two questions: how will the S-300/400 behave if there are goals ... well, say 1500? Second: how to supply the Syrian group, if the conflict is at least moderate in intensity?
    In the Ukrainian theater, we are at least in our territory, and on land, here we have no equal.
  18. Laruss
    Laruss 3 May 2018 11: 18
    +1
    It is not for nothing that in Russia there is a saying: “Silence is gold” ... Those who talk about the silence of the Kremlin. Have forgotten this saying. I believe that this silence has a 100% convincing answer ...
    1. Aleks2048
      Aleks2048 3 May 2018 13: 30
      +4
      The Kremlin is not a church and Putin is not a god ... Faith is good, but I would like facts and knowledge. wink
    2. BecmepH
      BecmepH 3 May 2018 14: 31
      +1
      Quote: Laruss
      I believe that this silence has a 100% convincing answer ...

      I want to believe in female intuition, but ... Life experience suggests that there is no convincing answer, 100%. Otherwise, why are they silent?
  19. agribkov79
    agribkov79 3 May 2018 11: 18
    +1
    How many naive people are there ... Discussions about heavenly pretzels, damn it! All the super tactics and super strategists of divan troops — only half did not even serve in the army, and is relevant to politics — only as spectators of a zombie man. This expression is directly appropriate here: "If you are all so smart, then do not go in order and don’t wear a vest !?".
  20. Tektor
    Tektor 3 May 2018 11: 29
    +1
    The issue of supplying the C300 to Syria is fundamental to all of modern history. If we deliver, then we declare war on Israel - there can be no illusions. Those. we will have to destroy all the aircraft of Israel. And this is inevitable, and this is a step towards the Battle of the End, i.e. we raise rates. Because otherwise, we will receive both shame and war, but with the initiative of the "partners". Question: in which case is the Battle of the End more likely? In the second, because We are now considered to be weak in the West, who need to be "just put in place." Not supplying the C300 is a confirmation of our weakness. If we deliver and immediately “land” all the aviation of the Jews, then we are breaking the western template, and they will need time to agree on an answer. The answer will be - War. But already at our initiative, if the CDF is not srt.
  21. Outsider
    Outsider 3 May 2018 11: 43
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The author proceeds from the fact that Israel in the Middle East is simply hated and just waiting for the moment to destroy it.

    And you, dear, did not think about the question, but who decided at some point that a simple, for example, a carpenter, or a carpenter from the USA terribly hates a janitor or a driver from the Russian Federation? Or, for example, a seamstress from Israel, dreams of the death of a baker from Iran? And these issues work both ways.
    This is the question of who needs war at all, hatred between nations, religious denominations and between states.
    There will be wars, and confrontation, too, only between whom? Someone at the top decides that another people, the state is an enemy, and after that carpenters, drivers, seamstresses, bakers and so on begin to die, who have nothing to share among themselves, and who have not seen each other in the eye.

    - You never asked yourself the question: "What the hell does Iran need from Israel?"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2988&
    amp; v = zneJuLn8CE0
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 3 May 2018 23: 25
      +2
      And you did not ask yourself the question what kind of horseradish does Israel need from Iran?
  22. Outsider
    Outsider 3 May 2018 11: 45
    +1
    Quote: Tektor
    The issue of supplying the C300 to Syria is fundamental to all of modern history. If we deliver, then we declare war on Israel - there can be no illusions. Those. we will have to destroy all the aircraft of Israel. And this is inevitable, and this is a step towards the Battle of the End, i.e. we raise rates. Because otherwise, we will receive both shame and war, but with the initiative of the "partners". Question: in which case is the Battle of the End more likely? In the second, because We are now considered to be weak in the West, who need to be "just put in place." Not supplying the C300 is a confirmation of our weakness. If we deliver and immediately “land” all the aviation of the Jews, then we are breaking the western template, and they will need time to agree on an answer. The answer will be - War. But already at our initiative, if the CDF is not srt.

    - Miracle, you don’t remember how many times the USSR, together with the Arab countries, began wars to “destroy Israel”? And what did they end with?
    1. 75 hammer
      75 hammer 3 May 2018 13: 20
      0
      Well, in this case, it’s not against Israel, but against NATO + Israel, where assistance was mainly equipment and military., Specialists, do not distort too often, otherwise you will tear off the reason! MIRACLES .... haha! Polygon!
    2. andj61
      andj61 3 May 2018 17: 31
      +1
      Quote: Outsider
      Miraculously, you don’t remember how many times the Soviet Union, together with the Arab countries, began wars to "destroy Israel"? And what did they end with?

      USSR began? After the proclamation of Israel in 1947, Arabs began WITHOUT the USSR. Both Arabs and Israel did not help. Weapons were sold - for money. In 1956, in my opinion, the triple aggression of Israel, England and France against Egypt. It was stopped by the USSR and the USA. In 1967, the Arabs really provoked the war, but Israel began it. The USSR supplied arms to the Arabs, Israel - to the western countries. In 1973, the Arabs attacked - for the second time - the first. True, this did not stop them from getting a wort. Here the USSR already helped in full growth - but not in horse feed. Even the USSR did not fight for Arabs. Next - Camp David, the unity of the Arabs was destroyed. In 1982, Israel again intervened in the Lebanese civil war, and three years later was forced to leave Lebanon completely (except for a small buffer zone). That is, in fact, was defeated. In 1994, besides Egypt, a peace treaty was concluded with Jordan - there were no more large-scale wars. Well, do not consider such a conflict with Hesbollah ....
    3. Pissarro
      Pissarro 3 May 2018 23: 27
      +2
      Answer: never. Israel started all wars, then they calmed the whole world with violence)
    4. SETTGF
      SETTGF 5 May 2018 00: 17
      +1
      Outsider! If you do not know historical events, then do not write silly nonsense! The USSR never started and was not at war with Israel, otherwise there would be nothing left of Israel! Express yourself more correctly!
  23. Antares
    Antares 3 May 2018 11: 48
    +1
    If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it is better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine.

    Wow.
    The positions of the Russian Federation in Ukraine for 2014 were the strongest of the players — as it were, to put it softly in the verb “lost”
    The position of the Russian Federation in Syria is, as it were, to put it mildly, “not the strongest” in order to “give”
    The main battles on the economic front. There the general was long ago given.
    1. Gloomy
      Gloomy 3 May 2018 12: 30
      0
      Not to waste the efforts that have already been spent in Syria.
      It’s better to keep silent about the “main battles”, taking up, indeed, the economy.
  24. logistician
    logistician 3 May 2018 12: 24
    +1
    A defensive strategy always loses to an offensive one, so the C300 will not change anything. Syria needs to supply offensive weapons, but not only to deliver, but also not to be shy about using them at the airfields from which attacking aircraft started.
  25. logistician
    logistician 3 May 2018 12: 25
    +1
    But in order to go for it you need to have real sovereignty, which we alas do not have.
  26. Gloomy
    Gloomy 3 May 2018 12: 26
    +1
    The topic "If a general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it is better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine, is not completely disclosed."
  27. saltickov.
    saltickov. 3 May 2018 12: 29
    +1
    You can’t be a little pregnant, with 300 you had to enter it two years ago and the pilot would be alive, well, but standing on a raskoryaku is not clear.
  28. Gloomy
    Gloomy 3 May 2018 12: 34
    0
    Quote: Outsider
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    The author proceeds from the fact that Israel in the Middle East is simply hated and just waiting for the moment to destroy it.

    And you, dear, did not think about the question, but who decided at some point that a simple, for example, a carpenter, or a carpenter from the USA terribly hates a janitor or a driver from the Russian Federation? Or, for example, a seamstress from Israel, dreams of the death of a baker from Iran? And these issues work both ways.
    This is the question of who needs war at all, hatred between nations, religious denominations and between states.
    There will be wars, and confrontation, too, only between whom? Someone at the top decides that another people, the state is an enemy, and after that carpenters, drivers, seamstresses, bakers and so on begin to die, who have nothing to share among themselves, and who have not seen each other in the eye.

    - You never asked yourself the question: "What the hell does Iran need from Israel?"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2988&
    & amp;
    amp; v = zneJuLn8CE0

    And what? Can I use words? What does their peaceful coexistence not suit?
  29. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 3 May 2018 13: 19
    0
    The author directly sleeps and sees the victory of air defense over aircraft. Hence the attempt to adjust the desired conditions of the problem to a specific conclusion. Let's step back a little from the concept of the author and look a little wider. RF in Syria why? Of the goals advocated, it was to kill ISIS (like the supreme said that they had won), support Assad (like the soil prepared by the West removed the latter’s withdrawal from the proposed conditions), the arrangement of military bases for the Russian Federation also seems to have decided what bases to be). But with unfiled tasks, it’s more difficult here that the Russian Federation apparently does not want the West to use the territory of Syria to build pipelines for hydrocarbons from the Middle East to Europe and thus the rejection of the Suez Canal and tankers, which will reduce the cost and make the supply of hydrocarbons from the Middle East to Europe competitive, here essentially a triangle Turkey Egypt and Syria can become a reference point. Russia clearly did not succeed with Turkey. With Egypt, it can work if only in conjunction with Iran and the Galanian heights. And in Syria, the Russian Federation will arrange a stable mess because Rosneft, which is part of the fields in Syria, is not a presidential company, unlike Gazprom, and Gazprom supplies everything well to Europe in the event of a turmoil in Syria. Gazprom will arrange prices in Europe under any circumstances that prevented the construction of a pipeline from the Middle East to Europe. What allies of the russian federation is the author talking about? China? He doesn't care. Decisive Eun, the Balkans, Ukraine, Brazil, or who else wants a union like "RF + beggars and wretched"? Maybe someone from Europe wants to join the union? No. I think that the Russian Federation already has its dividends with Syria, it’s time to slow down and translate the conflict into a sluggish one. The gun advertisement was, what else? What the United States wanted, they wanted to strengthen their position in the region, it turned out there is a base. It did not work to lay the pipe, but part of the territory under control, received a demonstration of power. The union of Turkey, Egypt and Syria is foiled. But the main thing is that the Saudis and Qatar do not want to hear anything about an alliance with the Russian Federation and have remained with the United States.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 3 May 2018 13: 57
      +1
      Quote: Alex2048
      What the United States wanted, they wanted to strengthen their position in the region, it turned out there is a base.

      What they wanted - they still have not achieved to remove the presence of Iran in Syria, therefore there will be all kinds of gestures
      1. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 3 May 2018 14: 36
        0
        Generally speaking, the USA can safely end Iran by leaving the nuclear deal and for this to happen, it is necessary for Trump to refuse to extend it. And Europe out of habit will swallow from an overseas friend. laughing
        1. Pissarro
          Pissarro 3 May 2018 23: 33
          0
          How will an exit from a nuclear deal end Iranian influence in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon? If, at least in theory, there are opportunities with the Russians to agree on something in Syria, then it is not possible to remove the Iranians from there even with the help of Russia (and the Iranian presence there does not interfere with Russia, it only helps)
          1. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 4 May 2018 15: 28
            +1
            The nuclear deal allows Iran to somehow make ends in the economy. Apparently, once in its time, Iran agreed to it, then apparently everything was bad; otherwise, why should Iran give up its nuclear program and be as cool as Eun. laughing
  30. Rey_ka
    Rey_ka 3 May 2018 13: 30
    0
    Israel in the ring of enemies. Well, just like us. only there are limited resources. and like not-so-stupid people, when calculating the risks, they want to snuggle up against someone’s strong and moral-free back. Now it is the USA. The United States will collapse will seek ties with China and at the transition stage, Russia will come down
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 3 May 2018 23: 36
      0
      Why should Russia or China clash with the Arab world over Israel? They will not buy weapons from us, there are no minerals. “Planet Zhelezyak, no minerals, populated by robots” (c)
  31. Curious
    Curious 3 May 2018 14: 51
    0
    To evaluate the article, just read the author's name. You can not read further. "Fantasies of Vesnukhin."
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  33. Strelets1
    Strelets1 3 May 2018 20: 45
    +1
    Quote: Alex2048
    Let's step back a little from the concept of the author and look a little wider.


    Let's
    Quote: Alex2048
    RF in Syria why?


    Really, why? - You have not clarified the situation ...

    Quote: Alex2048
    The Russian Federation apparently does not want the West to use the territory of Syria to build pipelines for hydrocarbons from the Middle East to Europe, and thus the rejection of the Suez Canal and tankers, which will reduce the cost and make competitive the supply of hydrocarbons from the Middle East to Europe, there is essentially a triangle Turkey Egypt and Syria can become a checkpoint. Russia clearly did not succeed with Turkey. With Egypt, it can work if only in conjunction with Iran and the Galanian heights.


    Something throws you, dear, from the Suez Canal (Egypt) to the Strait of Hormuz (Iran) ... What is the triangle from Syria, Turkey and Egypt? What are you speaking about?
    Syria is the last remaining stronghold of the Arab Socialist Revival Party (BAAS) in the Arab world, which once had branches in almost the entire Arab world (branches in Syria, Iraq, Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Mauritania , Palestine, Sudan, Tunisia and Yemen).
    And even in Saudi Arabia.
    Thanks to the "Successful democratization" of North Africa and the Middle East during the armed coups and the "Arab springs" organized and sponsored by the Anglo-Saxon special services, nothing was left of the Arab unifying ideology - the leaders of the Ba'ath movement and party cells in Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, Mauritania, Kuwait, Bahrain is liquidated, members of the organization are physically destroyed ... Sudan, Yemen, Lebanon, Libya - in fact, lost their sovereignty - are divided into several enclaves controlled by various separate armed groups, often of a terrorist nature ...
    Jordan has been turned into an abyss for terrorists of all stripes, Egypt is an ally of S. Arabia in the struggle for dominance in the Bl. East - part of the Arab coalition fighting in Yemen ...
    Turkey is a member of NATO that has not been allowed (for decades) into a united Europe ...

    Well, and what the hell is the triangle, and where does the Syrian Golan, occupied by Israel and Egypt? If you wanted to say something in Egypt - Israel - then this is not the Golan Heights, but the Sinai Peninsula ...



    Quote: Alex2048
    And in Syria, the Russian Federation will arrange a stable mess because Rosneft, which is part of the fields in Syria, is not a presidential company, unlike Gazprom, and Gazprom supplies everything well to Europe in the event of a turmoil in Syria. Gazprom will arrange prices in Europe under any circumstances that prevented the construction of a pipeline from the Middle East to Europe. ... What they wanted the United States wanted to strengthen its position in the region - it turned out there is a base. It did not work to lay the pipe, but part of the territory under control, received a demonstration of power. The union of Turkey, Egypt and Syria is foiled. But the main thing is that the Saudis and Qatar do not want to hear anything about an alliance with the Russian Federation and have remained with the United States.


    And where does this knowledge come from ...? Probably from blogs and comments of the same bloggers ...

    Lyubesny, the head of Rosneft, Igor Ivanovich Sechin, is a KGB-FSB personnel officer who was subordinate to GDP. Appointed head of Rosneft in coordination with GDP. So that you don’t talk about SOEs there, 80% of the proceeds from the sale of hydrocarbons is oil sales, and only a fraction of the remaining 20% ​​is SOE gas.

    In general, before you meddle with analytics (especially geopolitical issues) - learn the materiel ... and prepare material on the topic ...
  34. Alexander Borisov
    Alexander Borisov 3 May 2018 21: 30
    0
    If Russia can repeat the Vietnamese scenario in Syria, then the United States wants to repeat the scenario of the Arab-Israeli war. Therefore, Russia must take into account the negative experience of the Arab-Israeli wars and be very attentive to the tricky tactics of the Israeli army.
    The fact that you need to kick your ass in Syria is undoubtedly, but Russian specialists, maybe, should be put over the Syrian military personnel. Syrians are weak specialists and even with discipline they have problems.
  35. lopvlad
    lopvlad 4 May 2018 04: 20
    +1
    If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it is better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine.


    this is one of the reasons why Russia is in Syria. And this is right, since it is better to fight with the West on foreign territory.
    1. Petio
      Petio 4 May 2018 19: 10
      0
      And according to the results of the T-4 raid on April 9th ​​- in the roof of the attacked hangar after the attack, -12 neat holes, most likely from the same GBU-39. So the Syrian air defense shot down this is another question
  36. Feldscher
    Feldscher 4 May 2018 20: 47
    0
    Quote: hdgs
    Quote: the most important
    Probably the brain.

    Yes?
    Quote: the most important
    All the same, it is necessary to fight on foreign territory, and not on one’s own.

    Fight? Another one is the same.


    Yes, the team just went to Iran good
  37. gregor6549
    gregor6549 5 May 2018 07: 52
    +1
    Wherever you look around you are alone warriors (based on warm and comfortable sofas). They have few wars and local conflicts that have already happened. And what kind of West is going to flock with Russia, who in the West is specific and why?
    It would be nice to recall that the USSR had already climbed into all kinds of showdowns abroad, and it didn’t rake any acre of harm to its head and other parts of the body.
    One story with Egypt is worth it. Billions swelled there and what happened? They threw the USSR out of Egypt as soon as Egypt was bought by richer countries. And such, if not the worst result, is quite predictable with other "friends" in that region, including Iran and other Turkeys. Russia has always been a sworn enemy of both Iran and Turkey and this has not gone anywhere. So who is there to arm and why ruin Russian citizens?
    Do you really want to help them with the final solution of the Jewish question? And what in the end did the Jews do to Russia so that it would help someone to continue the work of the possessed Führer? After all, neither Iran, nor Turkey nor the numerous mongrel lured by them hide their intentions to wipe Israel off Zamli. And these intentions are becoming more and more real and threatening outlines every year. Therefore, Israel is trying as much as possible to neutralize threats even in its infancy, including by eliminating Iranian bases and Hezbollah bases in Syria, realizing that when hundreds of missiles fly from there, it will be more than difficult to repel them.
    In general, my opinion is this. Another war in the Bl East is almost inevitable. But does Russia need to get involved in this war and why? And there is no need to talk about international duty. It is the duty of the Russians to protect their people and their country if the country is attacked or faces an unconstitutional coup. By the way, the USSR Armed Forces for some reason did not remember about this part of their duty when a trio of traitors led by Yeltsin made such a coup at the beginning of the 90x. And all attempts to perform the so-called "international duty" where we owed nothing to anyone always led to large and completely unnecessary victims. But such attempts have not stopped since the time of the Civil War in Russia. That we helped Finland, then Germany, then Poland, then Spain, then Korea, then Afghanistan, then to numerous Arab and African "friends." And what is the result? Helped someone? And the people were killed immeasurably both their own and the stranger. And now, someone really wanted to step on the same rake. Well. Rake your hands, warriors
  38. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 5 May 2018 15: 40
    0
    The "fatal reputational damage" from which the very patriotic "analyst" seeks to save Russia is a myth of idle authors. The reputation of Russia has been rinsed on all television channels, including central Russian, continuously for 25 years already. Pique vests of all stripes and colors. But Russia, however, is gaining ground, especially in the military business, in which no one is immune from failures and losses. S-300s will or will already be in Soria, but the deployment of the "Shell" and other air defense systems should precede their deployment, which is done systematically and sensibly. In a military manner, without a bazaar, for which everyone should be responsible.
  39. Normal ok
    Normal ok 5 May 2018 22: 58
    0
    If the general battle between Russia and the West is inevitable, then it is better to give it in Syria than in Ukraine.

    Nonsense. In Syria, Russia has a scanty contingent and barely breathing logistics. In such circumstances, the "general" battle is doomed to failure.
    1. shahor
      shahor 6 May 2018 19: 12
      0
      Let's remember that before Iran did not enter Syria, Israel breathed evenly and had little interest in Syria. Iran came and began to prepare a bridgehead in Syria for an attack on Israel, in particular, it delivered land-to-ground missiles with a range of over 300 km. The answer is predictable. Attempts by the Syrians to cover up Iranian warehouses led to attacks on Syrian air defense. Not for the Syrian army. As long as Iran imports weapons to Syria that are potentially dangerous for Israel, strikes will continue. Further. S-300 is an outdated system. In Russia, discontinued. If it is delivered, then from the presence of MO. Those. An obsolete option taken off duty. Military significance against Israel is close to zero. Iran is not convinced, although we are trying. We can’t fight in Syria with NATO; even Marshal Agarkov warned about problems with logistics. Turkey is a NATO country, the best option - neutrality - will lead to the closure of the straits and airspace. Iraq and the east of Syria will block the US Air Force from aircraft carriers and bases in Qatar. Excellence in the Mediterranean is overwhelming. I think that the Russian position - bypass us, and figure it out yourself - is the wisest yet.
  40. Boyar
    Boyar 6 May 2018 19: 38
    0
    The war will still be. It seems to many that it will never be, all this is a game of muscles and show-offs.
    There will be a war, and it is brought closer by the spineless policy of the leadership of the Russian Federation, we just streamline and absorb it, and we substitute its cheeks. Shame and not politics, thieves and thieves about Russia are remembered only in elections.
  41. Viktor Petrov
    Viktor Petrov 6 May 2018 19: 55
    0
    West guys already, missed the moment, as I understand it, the Syrian calculations are ready, and the complexes themselves can be transferred at any time like the S-300 and the Shell for cover.
  42. solovald
    solovald 7 May 2018 07: 21
    0
    A solution to the Iran-Israel-Syria hub has not yet been found. But the situation is heating up, Israel is already calling for the USA to help. Maybe Putin’s meeting with Netanyahu will lower the pair in the boiler a little.
  43. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 7 May 2018 11: 11
    0
    Yes, in general, the author of the article is very right - if we don’t show ourselves as a worthy defender of Syrian interests from any aggressor (be it the USA or Israel), then this will already manifest itself in Ukraine. And in Ukraine, we already need to solve the issue with the Donbass, since Western "partners" do not want to solve it in a normal way. Bandera has already completely unbelted and with impunity they are shooting residents of Donbass.
  44. Wolka
    Wolka 9 May 2018 16: 30
    0
    cunning is not a vice, but one of the varieties of the mind, because comrade agitator must be more cunning, take pity on our children, war is not an aunt however ...
  45. Old warrior
    Old warrior 10 May 2018 22: 10
    0
    I think; and there and there it is necessary - too much all sorts of bastards crawled around the White Svetushka ...