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NATO scenario of massed air strike: point of no return

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Today, military experts from different countries are actively discussing the topics of cyberspace and hybrid wars. It would seem that the traditional methods of warfare are fading. But it is not.


The growing popularity of "soft power" does not prevent NATO from practicing the tactics of an MRAU, a massive rocket-air strike, in exercises. This is what the alliance will do for the next two weeks. Let's talk about how and where it will happen and why the alliance needs it.



What is MRAU and who participates in it

Without resorting to definitions from military encyclopedic dictionaries, I explain that a massive missileaviation a strike is when several hundred or even thousands of missiles hit the enemy in a short time.

The attacking side inflicts several such blows at the very beginning of hostilities. The goal is the destruction of the most important enemy objects: airfields, nuclear attack means, radar detection, control and communications points.

The tactics of the MRAU, adopted in NATO, imply the location of the forces and assets involved in several echelons.

Rocket train. The very first in the strike. Designed to maximize damage to the enemy in the first minutes of the attack 30.

It includes sea and airborne cruise missiles, tactical and operational-tactical ballistic missiles, long-range aircraft missiles, and fake radar targets.

For example, on the Baltic side, NATO can use different types of missiles in the echelon up to 75.

Air defense suppression train. Next after rocket. Designed for fire and electronic destruction of enemy fighter aircraft and its anti-aircraft defense.

The composition of the echelon is more complicated than the previous one and consists of four separate groups: clearance of the airspace, radio-electronic jamming, air defense fire suppression groups and cover fighters.

In NATO, the echelon is based on the F-15, -16, -18, EF2000 Typhoon, EA-6B Prowler aircraft, as well as a number of civilian aircraft equipped with radio-electronic suppression complexes (REB). Together with tactical aviation, the alliance can use the military: helicopters UH-60 Black Hawk and AN-64 Apache.

Shock train. The final component of the MRAU. Intended to destroy enemy targets in the depth of his defense. Attracted after the first two echelons cleared the way.

Consists of a variety of tactical groups, which can contain various fighters or strategic bombers B-52H, B-1B and B-2A with airplanes of cover.

If at the beginning of the conflict it came to the shock level, the fate of the defending side is almost solved. In the case of NATO, Yugoslavia is a prime example.

Echelon security. Is as if away from the above. Responsible primarily for information support of the strike and technical support of the forces and assets involved.

It includes KC-135, KC-10 refueling aircraft, E-3 AWACS long-range radar detection and control aircraft, reconnaissance aircraft and UAVs.

It is important that through this echelon all elements of an MRAU are managed. In Europe, the coordination of the actions of NATO aviation is the responsibility of the Air Operations Center in Germany.

How did NATO manage to hide the strike from the public?

MRAU rehearsal is not the most popular theme of the alliance’s military exercises. In the open annual plans, you will not find maneuvers, in the description of which this abbreviation would appear.

The trick is that the development of a massive strike is carried out separately for each of its components. In turn, the debugging of the actions of each component is masked by several different military exercises, which are actually united by a single plan.

In the next two weeks, NATO will rehearse the use of an anti-aircraft defense echelon. In the general structure of an MRAU described above, it plays a key role.

The event is disguised as three military exercises: Frisian Flag 2018, Ramstein Guard 5 18 and EART 2018. For clarity, cause-effect relationships dwell on each of them separately.

Training shock level. From 9 to 20, April, under the leadership of the Netherlands, the main NATO military exercises Frisian Flag 2018 will be held. More than 70 aircraft from six countries of the alliance are attracted to the maneuvers.

The aircraft fleet involved is represented by the main aircraft assigned to the airspace clearance and air defense fire suppression groups of the MRAU. Among them, 8 units. EF2000 Typhoon, 12 units F-15 C / D, 7 units F / A-18, 16 units F-16AM / BM and other aircraft of identical purpose.

A civilian aircraft radio jamming system DA-20 will also take part in the exercise. He is only slightly inferior to his military colleague EA-6B Prowler. These aircraft belong to the electronic jamming group. If to simplify, then their primary task is to create an electromagnetic field that will cover the strike aircraft from enemy radar at the stage of approaching targets.

According to official information, two DRLO E-3 AWACS airplanes will be watching all this aviation ball. I note that with a massive strike, it is Avaks that are responsible for building up the trains and transferring instructions from the Air Operations Center in Germany.

Despite all of the above, it is still too early to say that the Netherlands are rehearsing an MRAU: there are no support planes and more electronic jammers.

Training aviation aviation. As I explained in the previous paragraph, all trainloads of airplanes participating in a massive strike are served by a support train.

In the course of the Frisian Flag in the Netherlands, another exercise will be held - EART 2018. Their main task is to work out the issues of refueling combat aircraft in the air. This will take five tanker aircraft from several countries of the alliance. They will be trained on the aircraft involved in the Frisian Flag. With the security figured out, it remains to find the missing funds REP.

Practicing electronic warfare techniques. The final chord, which makes it possible to say with certainty about the rehearsal in the Netherlands of an element of an MRAU, is the NATO exercise Ramstein Guard 5 18. They will also be held in this country, but from 12 to 22 in April.

There is no information about the participants of the maneuvers. According to past experience, it is known that they are involved in various means of electronic warfare, including aviation. Supervises the training process of the Air Operations Center in Germany. The one who coordinates MRAU through DRLO E-3 AWACS aircraft.

The goal of Ramstein Guard is usually claimed to be the preparation of an integrated NATO air defense system for operations under electronic suppression conditions. In fact, in the course of these maneuvers, not only are the offensive actions of NATO EW forces practiced, but also their electromagnetic compatibility is checked. In the countries of the alliance there is still no unity in the Rab standards.

Thus, in the Netherlands, Ramstein Guard has two goals: to equip the group of electronic suppression of air defense, created on the exercises Frisian Flag; check how planes from six different countries will be able to perform tasks in conditions of covering their actions with heterogeneous REP systems.

Now we will connect all this. Having told about the three exercises, under which NATO masks the training of the main component of MRAU in Holland, I will summarize. During the Frisian Flag exercise, air-clearance groups, fire suppression of air defense and aircraft coordinating the MPAU were collected. On the EART 2018 maneuvers the provisioning forces are concentrated. The Ramstein Guard teachings added missing elements to the electronic suppression group and brought a key figure to the arena - the Air Operations Center in Germany. That's all. The echelon of air defense suppression, which is the main component of NATO’s massive air strike, has been formed, the governing bodies are ready.

Why does NATO continue to rehearse conventional methods of attack?

In February of this year, the United States published a new nuclear doctrine of the state. The main innovation is the readiness of the State Department to use nuclear weapon in the case of not only a nuclear attack on the country, but also attacks by conventional weapons. Under the latter category, among other things, hacker attacks fall.

Due to the strong influence of Washington in NATO, innovation in the medium term may be extended to the US allies in the alliance. No wonder the Russian Foreign Minister S. Lavrov said that "the US military is actively preparing colleagues for the use of tactical nuclear weapons against Moscow."

According to the NATO military concepts, such weapons are planned to be used during the deposition of an MRAU against the enemy. The need for rehearsal of his elements is obvious.

Given the possible projection of the theses of the American doctrine on the allies, the massive strike scenario may be as follows: The West will stage a hacker attack on one of the NATO countries bordering Russia and cross the point of no return. The benefit of replacing the actual with the desired from foreign partners is available.

Of course, tomorrow no one is going to apply MRAU in Russia. But today's reality is that the North Atlantic Alliance cannot postpone this plan indefinitely. Therefore, the exercises described in the article will systematically work out the actions of the air defense suppression echelon. I completely forgot to say about the direction of these maneuvers: they are held in the North Sea, not far from the Baltic ...
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 21 2018 06: 02
    +6
    Of course, tomorrow no one is going to apply MRAU in Russia.

    I think so, and the day after tomorrow too. Too much is at stake - life on planet Earth. In the meantime, the natosrovtsy take more on the show. And who wants, in response, their small ones across the country were dug up by a nuclear strike.
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad April 21 2018 06: 23
      +6
      Quote: aszzz888
      In the meantime, the natosrovtsy take more to Pont

      They want us to bury our economy in the arms race! I am for: why do we need such a world without Russia?
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN April 21 2018 12: 44
        +5
        I noticed that the training manual was changed, they are trying to scare us for almost any reason ... Well, we, what are we?
        A general from Moscow comes to the unit, through civil defense. Well, it, as expected, immediately in the bath, vodka, girls, etc. Two weeks pass in this mode, it is necessary to return back to the general. Well, the general calls the chief part and says:
        - Tell me, dear, I just need to go back, report to my chief how you are with the bomb shelters, just tell the truth, otherwise they will ask me in Moscow.
        “If the truth is, Comrade General, then not a single one.”
        - As no one, you reported that you have a lot of them.
        “Well, it happened, you really want the truth.”
        - Well, you and I drank so much, there were so many women, well, but how many gas masks you have, only honestly.
        - Honestly, not one.
        “But we did send them by echelons to you, where did everyone do it?”
        “Well, you honestly asked - what you sold, what you gave out.”
        - Well, how so, well you understand, imagine, tomorrow is a war, America drops an atomic bomb on you and what will happen ?!
        - Be dishonored, Comrade General, dishonored.
      2. Bo Yari
        Bo Yari April 21 2018 16: 53
        +1
        scoop and died ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina April 22 2018 13: 40
          +3
          Quote: Bo Yari
          scoop and died ...

          Watch yourself don’t get dressed in a wooden mac!
        2. KaPToC
          KaPToC April 25 2018 22: 20
          +1
          Quote: Bo Yariy
          scoop and died ...

          And the broom too
          And since then in your house garbage is not removed.
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 21 2018 17: 09
      +9
      The best option once and for all to remove such a "task" is to catch some kind of "unnecessary" country on a whitewash against Russia and leave in its place - a radioactive desert am am good
      That ALL would look, hiccup and "bashfully avert their eyes."
      1. major147
        major147 April 21 2018 21: 42
        +2
        For example, Australia!
        1. sabakina
          sabakina April 22 2018 13: 42
          +4
          What for? They are poor there and so go upside down .... And what does the kangaroo have to do with it?
      2. Yura Yakovlev
        Yura Yakovlev April 24 2018 10: 04
        0
        "The best option once and for all to remove such a" task "is to catch some kind of" unnecessary "country on a whitewash against Russia and leave in its place - the radioactive desert"

        Why unnecessary. We need one who dares to conduct such exercises. Officially, through the UN, declare a ban on such exercises. Well, whoever is not afraid, he will fall under the distribution.
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 April 21 2018 22: 18
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      I think so, and the day after tomorrow too. Too much is at stake - life on planet Earth.

      I don’t think ...
      And the living will envy the dead ...
      In fact, almost all new Special BCHs are clean, with a maximum decay period of a week. but if they explode cobalt, or even more so deuterium, tady oh ...
    4. In a d and m
      In a d and m April 25 2018 20: 42
      +1
      Stalin made the same logical mistake: he believed that Hitler = pragmatist, not suicide.
      Wrong. this predetermined defeat in 1941.
      Do not be naive!
  2. bald
    bald April 21 2018 06: 16
    0
    Doctrine is a practical thing, if brought to an end. Then it is worth it, to the direct executors of launches, to give out a bottle of whiskey, so to speak, to the staff.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 21 2018 07: 11
    +7
    It seems that the author correctly stated everything. But the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation also carry out constant exercises, on which various tasks are also phased out, including to repulse the blow and retaliate. Everyone is doing his own thing and the military understands that entering into an open conflict with an attempt to deliver a preemptive strike is a very dangerous undertaking.
    1. Chertt
      Chertt April 21 2018 09: 55
      +5
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It seems that the author correctly stated everything.

      Good face. Bezov article. (for those who do not know). Respect to the author.
    2. figwam
      figwam April 21 2018 12: 17
      +1
      So a new strike on Syria will be carried out according to this scenario, not for nothing that the French strike, they have already trained in refueling in the air on a long flight from France to Syria and vice versa.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 21 2018 07: 25
    +15
    The organization of such a strike is so global and multifaceted that it can be hidden only from completely DEAD-DEAF intelligence. The key elements of this strike are command and control aircraft - AWACS. There are only a few of them ... In order to destroy them, no effort is spared. Well, a preemptive strike by TNW on ground control centers.
    Probably, “Dagger” not only knows how to hit ships wassat in general, it’s necessary to prepare ... But don’t give up ... In advance
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 21 2018 13: 51
      +3
      Hitler's hundreds of divisions also failed to secretly transfer to our border. But in parallel, a disinformation program was running about the purpose of such a transfer. So it is here. They scare in Syria and Ukraine, and attack from the Baltic.
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 21 2018 17: 12
      +1
      How many NATO members have already gathered on our borders? How much equipment, fuel, and ammunition were brought in - all that was left was to bring soldiers and at least the bus stop. am How many military aircraft are in tactical range from our garrison, and what about reconnaissance of airborne warning systems and electronic warfare systems already hastening past our garrison "accustoming" us not to react? Until June 22 - nothing is left, and we will "do not succumb to provocations", only the described method will not allow us to retreat half a year to Moscow.
    3. K-50
      K-50 April 21 2018 20: 15
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Probably, “Dagger” not only knows how to hit ships

      Syrian MiG-25 RBs should be armed with “daggers” so that they can adequately respond to the next attack by sea carriers.
  5. koksalek
    koksalek April 21 2018 07: 58
    +1
    Quote: rotmistr60
    It seems that the author correctly stated everything. But the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation also carry out constant exercises, on which various tasks are also phased out, including to repulse the blow and retaliate. Everyone is doing his own thing and the military understands that entering into an open conflict with an attempt to deliver a preemptive strike is a very dangerous undertaking.

    Who is the first one and slippers
  6. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov April 21 2018 08: 48
    0
    This option is not excluded. It just fits into the concept of modern war of the western type. Most likely, high-precision weapons of the operational-tactical link will be involved. It is unlikely that this will be strategic nuclear weapons.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 22 2018 08: 43
      0
      In new conflicts, new B61 12 thermonuclear bombs of only 10 kilotons can be used.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov April 22 2018 08: 48
        0
        Vadim I do not argue, can. I also do not exclude the use of nuclear weapons of the operational link. It’s only if something happens without capturing the territory. Therefore, do not escalate.
  7. Cannonball
    Cannonball April 21 2018 09: 48
    +11
    Any massive “sneeze” towards our goals will automatically lead to a retaliatory nuclear strike. Dot.
    There will be no more Europe. And America will turn up, and it will also cease to exist.
    It makes no sense to discuss such attempts to attack a nuclear power.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 21 2018 13: 54
      +4
      The nuclear power of the USSR was subjugated completely without military action. Iraq was defeated by local warfare and by bribing the generals. Russia differs from Iraq mainly in the presence of nuclear weapons.
      But the DPRK, indeed, can only be subjugated by a great war.
      1. Cannonball
        Cannonball April 21 2018 13: 59
        +11
        The USSR was not subjugated, it was surrendered by traitors.
    2. Viktor77
      Viktor77 April 27 2018 17: 49
      0
      I doubt the nuclear otvetka.
      Our leadership is very mottled, and a certain part of it (we know which one) will do everything not to answer to the west as an adult.
      There are their denyushki and children.
  8. Lex.
    Lex. April 21 2018 10: 03
    +4
    Air defense suppression level. Next to the rocket. Designed for fire and radio-electronic destruction of fighter aircraft of the enemy and his air defense equipment.

    The composition of the echelon is more complicated than the previous one and consists of four separate groups: clearance of the airspace, radio-electronic jamming, air defense fire suppression groups and cover fighters.
    Until the first victims of retaliatory attacks on European cities
    1. Nevyatoy
      Nevyatoy April 22 2018 13: 36
      +2
      Since NATO has exclusively low-speed missiles for such an attack, and the mass launch of such missiles will be impossible to conceal, then with a high degree of probability the second echelon may not mean destroying the bases and carriers. Our answer will fly faster than slow-moving tomahawks. The United States and its allies do not have sufficient experience and technology to produce supersonic missiles. They have an imaginary hope for the “supposedly” invisibility of the tomahawks.
  9. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n April 21 2018 10: 54
    +4
    The author outlined a good topic. At the academy, I remember another schedule was on the topic, it’s more clear visually. Here would be such a slide and the article would be even more informative!
    1. stasevich45
      stasevich45 April 21 2018 19: 26
      +1
      I left a message for you at the end of the comments: https://topwar.ru/140119-scenarii-novyh-udarov-po
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      I'm sorry. Everything was just boiling inside. I even stopped watching Amerov films, cause disgust.
      P.S. I honestly did not drink at all while serving. 4 years. Then, as reduced, he washed down again. I almost died, now I don’t drink at all.
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n April 22 2018 16: 14
        +1
        I'm sorry. Everything was just boiling inside. I even stopped watching Amerov films, cause disgust.
        Everything is fine. Good luck and health. hi
        1. stasevich45
          stasevich45 April 22 2018 19: 05
          0
          Thank. Of the same. hi
  10. steelmaker
    steelmaker April 21 2018 11: 02
    +3
    Please note - the United States is not afraid that after these attacks a nuclear war could begin. Therefore, they hit Syria, despite the warnings of our General Staff. Until there is a real answer, the strikes will prepare and continue. An example of the DPRK. The USA was just scared to really get the answer! If RUSSIA is not respected, why should RUSSIA be respected?
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 21 2018 13: 57
      +2
      Well yes. It is necessary to detonate 1000 Mgt off the coast of the United States as a warning shot. And then again no one will believe that "something was shot down."
  11. turbris
    turbris April 21 2018 11: 24
    +7
    This estimate, based on the experience of the US Air Force in Iraq and Libya, is already pretty outdated. The application of MRAU is definitely the beginning of a nuclear missile war between the United States, NATO and Russia, no one will pay attention to whether nuclear weapons are used or not, read the modern military doctrine of Russia. I do not think that in the West, even with a certain isolation of its current leaders, they are ready for this, suicide is not their thing.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 23 2018 00: 08
      +1
      The words of one mattress general fit nicely under this "we will certainly develop and make a global strike weapon (what an hour, anywhere in the world), that's just primitive Russians will not be able to distinguish it from our nuclear missiles and may in response unreasonably strike at us " tongue
      Yes, yes, we are “like that” - first we’ll release the entire Strategic Missile Forces arsenal and then “surprised” - well, that it’s not us or nuclear weapons, hmm, it didn’t work out well repeat lol
  12. iouris
    iouris April 21 2018 11: 54
    +2
    Scary, already terrible. But Kim Jong Il showed how to solve the problem. But this is Kim Jong Il.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack April 21 2018 12: 04
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      But Kim Jong Il showed how to solve the problem.

      I repeat: plumping is harmful stop
    2. meandr51
      meandr51 April 21 2018 13: 59
      0
      This is because he buys his generals in dozens of orders. So much they can’t get in any army. They are incorruptible.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS April 21 2018 12: 26
    +2
    NATO will not deliver any attacks. We are a real armed enemy for them, but in economic terms we are simply zero, that's why they will try to just strangle us with the economy. They have succeeded and will beat them again in weak spots.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 21 2018 12: 49
      +13
      Quote: APASUS
      they will try to simply strangle us with the economy. They have already succeeded

      This is a common liberal myth. The USSR was not strangled, it was dissolved by a group of traitors who staged a counter-revolution.
      1. Anton Yu
        Anton Yu April 21 2018 13: 23
        +3
        and who is in power now?
        1. turbris
          turbris April 22 2018 12: 10
          +2
          Those whom the people have chosen or you have doubts and you need to be allowed to power?
        2. Mih1974
          Mih1974 April 23 2018 00: 10
          0
          Quite different. Then - there were those who wanted the authorities and the bubble, but were forced to share, now with the authorities and the bubble, but again forced to share and invest in the country, because they were shown WHAT the West will do with them, see "Gaddafi", "Hussein", Milosevic.
      2. meandr51
        meandr51 April 21 2018 14: 00
        +1
        It is possible and the same sequence. What, we lack traitors?
  14. flicker
    flicker April 21 2018 13: 13
    +3
    Given the possible projection of the theses of the American doctrine on the allies, the scenario of a massive attack could be as follows: the West will stage a hacker attack on one of the NATO countries
    A frightening scenario for NATO countries, with such a scenario they are guaranteed to cease to exist.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 April 21 2018 14: 01
      +1
      No one will ask them.
  15. Eduard petrov
    Eduard petrov April 21 2018 13: 50
    +1
    no hacker attack will lead to the use of nuclear weapons, and the army does not need to attack the Baltic states at all. You can sleep peacefully.
  16. toxa-xa
    toxa-xa April 21 2018 13: 58
    +1
    What prevents to experience in reality MRAU in Syria ???
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 23 2018 00: 11
      0
      The destruction of both carriers and bases is already in Russia, which America and NATO "give back" to them. tongue
  17. Mefodi5124
    Mefodi5124 April 21 2018 14: 13
    0
    The article is not bad. Resist!
  18. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov April 21 2018 14: 37
    +1
    The enemy’s inclusion of REP facilities should be several minutes ahead of the take-off of aircraft and the launch of ground and sea-based cruise missiles. Our REP facilities should be switched on after a pause after this, simultaneously with the launch of anti-radar missiles. If we catch these points correctly, we will win. It is necessary to work it out on a continuous air defense system in the conditions of round-the-clock combat readiness of the entire air defense system.
  19. Laruss
    Laruss April 21 2018 14: 49
    0
    Kennedy and Khrushchev also held their fingers on the button .., thank God passed !!! The Americans are attacking the weak, and Russia is too tough for them ...
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 April 23 2018 00: 16
      0
      Actually, at that time, the United States was on the verge of destruction. These stupid people assumed, because to say that they THINKED to flatter them, that we hadn’t delivered warheads to Cuba, whereas according to the stories of the commander of our group then, he was ready to stratum up to 100 missiles with nuclear charges, which were guaranteed multiplied by zero all western and southern in the USA. bully They say that when after the collapse of the USSR at the conference they mocked us, he said it to their faces (about 100 ready-made missiles and nuclear charges), according to him, the Americans all turned pale, because only at that moment they realized what kind of ass they were and HOW Kennedy saved them !! fool
      This, by the way, is the key problem of the Americans - they first do (shoot) and then rake off the consequences. That's just Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, they more or less survived, but even the "little war" against Russia-is guaranteed NO.
  20. shuster.dmitri
    shuster.dmitri April 21 2018 16: 00
    +1
    All these NATO air strikes are all in one place. Whatever they do and no matter how they bomb, one damn thing, nuclear missiles will start from mines and submarines will also shoot these missiles at Amers and Europe. They have nothing to rejoice about. One damn thing they will all be destroyed. They they know this very well and will never start first, something like that. Write off calmly.
  21. Radikal
    Radikal April 21 2018 16: 52
    0
    Of course, tomorrow no one is going to apply MRAU in Russia.
    What did they themselves say about this? And should we believe that? winked
  22. skobars
    skobars April 21 2018 17: 01
    +1
    Well, of course they can shandarahnut, and even if we assume that the answer will not work, and we will have huge losses. There will remain a small nuance - most of the men have gone through an army urgent period and after such aggression, a general guerrilla war is guaranteed - the Americans wash themselves with blood, but they don’t like this very much. And not conquered Russia will revive again. Here NATO and dream of quickly and forever, but it does not work out for them.
  23. stasevich45
    stasevich45 April 21 2018 19: 14
    +1
    In the light of the events described in this article, and considering what Erdogan is, I do not understand why our government approved the sale of the S-400 to Turkey! So that our complexes could be dismantled "on the cog", studied and understood how to neutralize them, so what ?! I DO NOT UNDERSTAND! If you can, explain someone.
  24. ufpb
    ufpb April 21 2018 19: 27
    +1
    Quote: NIKNN
    I noticed that the training manual was changed, they are trying to scare us for almost any reason ... Well, we, what are we?
    A general from Moscow comes to the unit, through civil defense. Well, it, as expected, immediately in the bath, vodka, girls, etc. Two weeks pass in this mode, it is necessary to return back to the general. Well, the general calls the chief part and says:
    - Tell me, dear, I just need to go back, report to my chief how you are with the bomb shelters, just tell the truth, otherwise they will ask me in Moscow.
    “If the truth is, Comrade General, then not a single one.”
    - As no one, you reported that you have a lot of them.
    “Well, it happened, you really want the truth.”
    - Well, you and I drank so much, there were so many women, well, but how many gas masks you have, only honestly.
    - Honestly, not one.
    “But we did send them by echelons to you, where did everyone do it?”
    “Well, you honestly asked - what you sold, what you gave out.”
    - Well, how so, well you understand, imagine, tomorrow is a war, America drops an atomic bomb on you and what will happen ?!
    - Be dishonored, Comrade General, dishonored.

    Have you witnessed this, or have you sucked a bike from your finger?
  25. TOR2
    TOR2 April 21 2018 19: 35
    0
    The whole concept that the author has outlined has one big minus. Preparation for such a strike will be noticed, which means there is time. Countermeasures can be either traditional or non-traditional. Everyone has heard about the traditional ones, but non-traditional ones with an appropriate approach can coolly change the alignment. First of all, the Trust and Aurora Borealis projects must be mothballed and adapted to the current threats. At one time, the Krasnoyarsk locator got a bone across the throat of Uncle Semu. His tasks included paralyzing the on-board electronics of intercontinental missiles, in our case, the missiles are different, but the impact technology is very suitable. Then they were stationary objects, now they will be mobile. For example, a system consisting of 20 elements that can be moved on rails, on water and on ice. Arriving in a region that is in danger, the elements are combined into a single fist. Destroying such a thing is extremely problematic even with good impact capabilities.
    The first step is to open funding for the Radiophysical Research Institute, and to upgrade the Sura facility
    .
    "It’s just magic that the Suru were generally able to save," said the head of the training ground, candidate of physical and mathematical sciences, Georges Komrakov.
  26. K-50
    K-50 April 21 2018 20: 10
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    No wonder Russian Foreign Minister S. Lavrov said that "the US military is actively preparing its colleagues for the use of tactical nuclear weapons against Moscow."

    Only now, the NATO troops are unaware that we will respond strategic to any tactical nuclear strike. And in general, we reserve the right to defend ourselves for defensive purposes if something threatens Russia.
  27. Beltasir matyagu
    Beltasir matyagu April 22 2018 01: 30
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    I wonder if we have special missiles to destroy Avax? This is a good help. In general, it would be nice to spell out in the military doctrine that in the first 5 minutes of the beginning of any action by strategic opponents in any form, the United States and Britain receive a nuclear strike for complete destruction. This is so that they not only do not think about the attack, but also shake so that no one else twitches. This is a form of hostage taking. Such a "move - die"
    1. Nevyatoy
      Nevyatoy April 22 2018 14: 29
      +1
      R-37 and KS-172 (now undergoing flight tests) NATO has no analogues from the word at all.
  28. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 22 2018 02: 51
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    I went for beer, there’s no chance.
    Only here the Bosko torn off on the sidelines of History have the reckless man.
  29. shinobi
    shinobi April 22 2018 06: 44
    +1
    The whole essence of these practices, trainings, exercises and coordination can be characterized by one short and capacious medical term, masturbation.
    PS: In the 70-80gg of the 20th century, NATO and the USSR conducted a series of full-scale exercises simulating local wars with limited use of tactical nuclear weapons. There was one result, and neither of us. The war quickly, in just 2-3 days, developed into a global exchange nuclear attacks between the USA and the USSR. Since then, nothing has changed in this aspect. And it will not change for another 50 years.
  30. Operator
    Operator April 22 2018 11: 50
    +2
    Well, NATO will begin to launch a massive air strike with airborne cruise missiles and tactical aircraft, because the average flight time of an aircraft to a target in a massive strike is one hour, and the flight time of the Kyrgyz Republic in conventional equipment is two hours and in nuclear equipment is three hours.

    And the Iskander-M DBK of the Dagger ARC will arrive in Europe and Japan in 10 minutes, the first echelon of the Poseidon UAV dispersed directly off the coast of Europe, North America and Japan will reach the targets in 15 minutes, the ICBM / SLBM will arrive in 40 minutes, the tsunami from the second echelon of the Poseidon BAPL will reach the specified coast in 1 hours, and only the CR Petrel will reach the remaining targets in 6 - 10 hours with supersonic sound.

    The radius of the shock wave from the 100-mt charge of Poseidon’s charges is 36 km, the radius of the shock of the tsunami to a depth of 20 km is 500 km, the radius of the shock from the 10-mt charges of Petrel and 1-mt ICBM / SLBM charges count yourself.
  31. gerkost2012
    gerkost2012 April 22 2018 12: 45
    +2
    About the fact that "tomorrow no one is going to apply MRAU in Russia", it is said very coquettishly and silly. Firstly, what does "tomorrow" mean in international relations !? Is it a week, months, years, or next Monday? Secondly, this MRAU may well begin and become a continuation after the start of the active phase of the military operations of Kiev against the DLNR. Here the USA AUG will creep into the Mediterranean Sea, and a war will be launched on two fronts, Donbass and Syria. Indeed, in Kiev no one really hides this, in principle, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard are just waiting for the order. Only here is the delay in the release of the AUG to the shock position. And thirdly, to the propaganda noise of the accusations of the Russian Federation in unleashing aggression, the very reason will appear to inflict this MAUG. That could be the near future.
  32. Ilya_Nsk
    Ilya_Nsk April 23 2018 10: 45
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    I read a long article reviewing the US Doctrine of Non-Nuclear War with “Instant Preventive Disarmament Strike,” which includes the almost simultaneous launch of 7000+ cruise missiles. It turned out that this was a difficult task and preparations for such an “event” would not go unnoticed, although its essence is precisely in surprise, and not in saturating them with air defense. You won’t catch us with a smaller number, but you can’t get so much stupid. They seem to be there, but there are not enough carriers, of those in the ranks. It is necessary to remove equipment from conservation, to call / retrain reservists. All this to bring from the bases into the air, into the sea. Bring almost to the borders, if the attacks lead to the deep rear (Urals). It was concluded that in flight the interception of tamahawks is difficult, both from the ground and from the air, however, when attacking the targets of the Kyrgyz Republic, it makes a decent slide for the final aiming - here it will be vulnerable to short-range air defense like “Shilka” / “Tunguska” . Those. well covering important objects with such means, you can take damage, but already acceptable, knocking down 50 +%. In Yugoslavia, there is the experience of knocking down the Kyrgyz Republic directly on the route with simple “Arrows” and “Needles”. Here, visual reconnaissance and the presence of MANPADS along the route to probable targets are important. This is all the more important in conditions of powerful electronic warfare, when high-tech systems like "Shell" may remain out of work, because the hope for their visual aiming artillery is weak. The attack will most likely be at night. Some of the old tomahawks may get lost in the steppes / tundra / over the Caspian - there are almost no landmarks. With muffled GPS - a good help. Inertial systems can accumulate a decent error in this case. But in the mountains, the tomahawks fly perfectly.
    If, however, launches do occur, then you will have to deal with calibers / iskander / supersonic RC, etc., by available means. I hope the matter does not get to the “clubs”, but the 31st twinkies will have to work hard so that the carriers do not return to the bases ..
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  34. Tektor
    Tektor April 23 2018 14: 06
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    What did the experience of Syria show? If we refer to the opinion of Khodarenok, then he showed the complete superiority of SAMs over the Kyrgyz Republic, because not one KR was able to hit objects covered by air defense systems. And which of this is the conclusion? And the fact that the first phase of the article is meaningless: until air defense / missile defense is suppressed, shooting missiles is unprofitable. Khodarenok says so that before applying MRAU for a couple of days the operation of suppressing the air defense system should take place. And then according to the experience of Yugoslavia, they could not destroy 100% of the air defense systems. How to deal with this phase? You need to have A50U, A100 and a patrol from drones specializing in reconnaissance and tracking of airspace in order to detect threats at low altitude at a distance of more than 300 km.
  35. Sergey Freeman
    Sergey Freeman April 24 2018 05: 30
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    It is foolish to say that when an armed conflict arises, the enemy will not be ready to deliver a limited or massive nuclear strike. To think that Europeans will not want to see Europe in ruins and therefore will not fight, it is naive. The mechanism of war is different. In the event of a conflict, all echelons involved in the military machine will begin to move. And no one will ask an ordinary German when the Hercules will begin to land on airfields with equipment and troops. Information pressure and simple disruption of civilians is what awaits Europe. We must not forget that America overseas and the fate of this very Europe to her to the lantern. The more the European part is busted, the better the Americans. The Russian barbarians will be to blame for everything. We talked, we warned ... And in such an environment, the use of nuclear weapons is not a risk ... This is a natural means of defeating the enemy. This is a necessary tool.
    So theorists can disappoint. The war will be with the use of nuclear weapons, it will affect the European theater of operations, and it is very strange to me that our President and his entourage are silent, putting residents of Russian megalopolises in mortal danger. In such cases it is necessary to speak directly and without hesitation. This is useful for citizens of Russia and for the enemy, so that he understands that the trigger is cocked. I’ll just tell you: the victims in the Second World War amounted to 27 million people, and a blow to Moscow alone can take about 20 million lives. This is reality ... This is not a joke.