The Russian Armed Forces will face the PAC-3 tandem - SkyCeptor. The dark horse of the US-Polish deal

The launch of the anti-rocket "Stunner"

Last week and a half, publications on accelerated preparation of all transport interchanges in the states of Central and Eastern Europe repeatedly appeared in RuNet for the transfer of heavy military equipment to the eastern strategic direction, that is, to Romania, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Poland and the Baltic countries. Thus, according to the plan of the European Commission recently announced in Brussels, until 2020, all railways, highways and bridges should be tested for suitability for moving heavy armored vehicles, including TZM, BREM, bridge laying, etc. The emphasis was made on this by the Deputy Head of the European Commission in Latvia Andris Kuznieks 6 in April, in an interview with the program “Domskaya Ploschad” on “Latvian Radio 4”. It is becoming more and more obvious that a major conflict with NATO’s Allied Forces on the frontiers of the Western Military District may be imposed on Moscow in the coming years. And therefore, at the very time it will be to consider the strength of the “anti-missile umbrella” of a state like Poland. Indeed, against the background of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, this country is the most suitable NATO bridgehead for the construction of the positional areas of the US strategic missile defense system based on Aegis Ashore anti-missile systems near Redzikovo, as well as for the deployment of the 52 tactical fighter air wing of the US Air Force at a military airfield the same town.

The fact is that the large size of the territory of Poland makes it possible to place the above-mentioned strategic objects of the US Armed Forces and other defensive means of the NATO member countries outside the reach of conventional types of cannon and rocket artillery at the disposal of the NE of Belarus and Russia (which cannot be fully realized in Lithuania and Latvia). Thus, the Polish Redzikovo Air Base is located at a distance of about 325 km from the positions of the 79-th separate guards motorized rifle brigade (Gusev) and 215 km from the location of the 244-th guards artillery brigade (Kaliningrad). Conventional artillery at such distances has no tactical value at all. Here there will be a sense from operational-tactical missile systems "Iskander-M", high-precision long-range systems like "Tornado-S" and Belarusian "Polonez". The latter can also be redeployed to the western environs of Kaliningrad to support the Russian army through the so-called Suvalki Corridor, which is now afraid of blocking in Washington and in the Baltic states. This is where the fun begins.

Due to the tremendous vulnerability of all US military facilities in Poland for our highly accurate weapons, Washington did not hesitate to approve the conclusion of a contract between the Polish Ministry of Defense and Lockheed Martin for the purchase of two batteries of the most modern anti-missile modification of the Patriot - PAC-3MSE Missile Segment Enhancement. In accordance with one of the clauses of the contract, the first 8 battery of the M902 PU must be supplied to the Polish Army in the 2022 year. A second similar battery should be adopted for the 2024 year. The contract also provides for the sale of 208 interceptor missiles MIM-104F and 4 upgraded high-energy multifunction radar with active phased arrays AN / MPQ-65. No matter how hard the patriots claimed that the PAC-3MSE does not have the ability to create a reliable “missile defense umbrella” from our air attack weapons, in reality the situation looks much more serious. We are dealing with an anti-aircraft missile / anti-missile missile version of the updated version of MIM-104F, which is equipped with a gas-dynamic control system based on 10 gas-dynamic "belts" with 18 transverse control engines in each. In contrast to missiles only with the aerodynamic control system + gas-jet SUVT, “jumping” of the MIM-104F on the trajectory due to the transverse thrust occurs in hundredths of a second with overloads more than 60G.

As a result, if the target is properly captured by means of an active radar homing head, it will not be so easy to “get away” from MIM-104F not only a poorly maneuverable aerodynamic or ballistic target, but also an object that maneuvers with an overload of 20 — 30 units, especially since MIM-104F has speed of the order of 1480 m / s (5312 km / h). The Patriot PAC-3 MSE complex is fully capable of destroying all anti-radar missiles that are in service with the Russian VKS (including X-XNUMHUSHK and X-58P), strategic cruise missiles of the X-31 and 101М3К / T Caliber-PL / NK, subsonic long-range tactical cruise missiles 14М9 (Р-728) of the Iskander-M complex. Noticeable difficulties can arise only in the process of intercepting the maneuvering tactical ballistic missiles 500М9-723 Iskander-M, but even here the probability of destruction is far from zero, and approaches approximately 1 - 0,15. Maybe this version of the ERAC anti-missile system of the PAC-0,25 + complex can also hit missiles of Tornado-C and Polonez multiple rocket launchers.

The high-frequency active radar homing head operating in the millimeter Ka-wave range, as well as the AN / MPQ-104 multi-function radar are responsible for the accuracy of the MIM-65F missile guidance. The ARGSN millimeter working range provides noticeably greater accuracy than the standard centimeter X / J ranges. An extremely important technical bonus of the multifunctional radar AN / MPQ-65 in comparison with the AN / MPQ-53 is the expansion of the angle of elevation of the beam in the elevation plane from 73 to 83 degrees. This allows the Patriot PAC-3 + battery without third-party targeting tools to destroy high-precision weapons diving at critical angles (almost along a flat trajectory).

The extended elevation sector of the radar is available only in the “rocket guidance” mode, while in the radar detection mode the standard angle of 73 degrees is realized. This station has the highest degree of noise immunity due to flexible modeling of the radiation pattern by controlling each transmitting and receiving module, forming “zero sectors” in the direction of interference sources. The only disadvantage of this method lies in a certain decrease in the energy and range properties of the MPQ-65. It will be eliminated after the introduction of the version of the MRLS with APMs based on GaN nitride-gallium substrates, adapted to significantly higher operating temperatures, and hence power. The target channel of this RPN is 6 simultaneously "captured" goals against the background of quite familiar throughput for tracking in 125 goals. In the same turn, the maximum number of targets simultaneously hit by a single anti-aircraft missile battery can reach 10 and more units thanks to the use of active radar guidance. The maximum speed of the escorted and fired target for the AN / MPQ-65 is close to 7920 km / h, which implies the defeat of the majority of the existing supersonic and hypersonic means of air attack, which are in service with the Russian HVS. Exceptions are the promising 10-flyby aeroballistic medium-range missile “Dagger” (its flight speed is not subject to the AN / MPQ-65 multifunctional radar complex) and hypersonic guided combat units of the Avangard complex.

The essential point of the Polish contract is the acquisition of 5 multifunctional information terminals MIDS / LVT (Multifunctional Information Distribution Systems / Low Volume Terminals), designed to be integrated into a single network-centric tactical information exchange network Link-16. This means that the Poles envisage the combat use of the Patriots against remote low-altitude over-the-horizon targets, in particular, cruise missiles of the Caliber family. In this case, the main means of targeting will be British airplanes of the E-3A “Sentry” radar watch and guidance. However, the field of possibilities here for Polish operators “Patriot PAC-3 +” will be very small, because the small EPR of our 3М14Т (0,03 — 0,05 sq. M) will limit the detection range using the AN / APY-2 radar to 80 — 100 km .

This means that the flying time will be only 5 minutes: with a massive “Caliber” strike (more than 120 missiles), the computing facilities of the EOC command and control points (IBCS Engagement Operations Centers) even theoretically have problems in “posting” such a number of targets. In practice, the British E-3A and the same Swedish S-100B “Argus” will not be able to patrol in the area of ​​the Redzikovo airbase due to the anti-aircraft missile systems of the long range C-300B4 and C-400 “Triumf”, radius deployed in the Kaliningrad region. the actions of which reaches 350 — 400 km, taking into account the replenishment of arsenals with new SAMs 9М82МВ and the transfer of the long-awaited anti-aircraft missiles 40H6 planned for the summer. In such a situation, NATO airplanes will be able to operate only in 120 — 170 km west of Redzikovo, and this means that cruise missiles with a small radar signature will be detected only by Patriot-attached radar AN / MPX-65 at 20 — X km

This is one of the most tangible tactical shortcomings of the Patriot PAC-3 + missile defense system being formed by the Poles, due to the proximity of the Kaliningrad zone of prohibition and restriction of access and the A2 / AD maneuver. Nevertheless, there is also such a disadvantage as the enormous cost of the MIM-104F interceptor missiles, amounting to more than $ 5 million. Consequently, their use against conventional tactical missiles and hundreds of TFRs is extremely expensive for the Polish Ministry of Defense. In addition, two hundred MIM-104F interceptors are clearly not enough to repel massive missileaviation strikes from the Russian Aerospace Forces. Already today, the "first stage" of the Vistula project, approved by the US State Department (based on only two PAC-3 + batteries) is estimated at $ 4,7 billion.

It is for this reason that at the "second stage" of the implementation of the project of the Polish anti-missile defense system "Wisla" it is also envisaged to purchase 5 times less expensive and very effective anti-aircraft guided missile interceptors "SkyCeptor", designed on the basis of the Israeli anti-missile "Stunner" of the "David` complex. s Sling "(" David's Sling "). This was reported on March 29, 2018 by the well-known Polish military-analytical publication www.defence24.pl. It is known that on November 25, 2012, the complex passed a successful test over the Negev desert, intercepting several tactical missiles, while a ballistic target was hit during field tests in 2013. The first David's Sling launchers with Stunner missiles entered combat duty on April 2, 2017 at Hazor Air Force Base, and a year later the complex took part in the Juniper Cobra 2018 exercise jointly with the US Armed Forces.

It is worth noting that initially the Stunner interceptor missile developed by Rafael and Raytheon for the Sharvit Ksamim complex was designed to intercept tactical missiles, unguided missiles, active-reactive guided missiles and maneuvering ballistic objects in small and medium range, but the range of its capabilities allows you to work effectively and aerodynamic objectives. Numerous media make a serious mistake, indicating that the range of “Stannerov” passes for 250 km, and the speed is approaching 8500 km / h, which some of our reviewers take at face value and confuse readers.

In reality, even taking into account the presence of the powerful solid fuel first stage of the Stunner bicalyber antimissile, its speed at the time of separation of the starting stage and the start of the main engine does not exceed 5 - 5,5М, and the range 100 - 150 km. Such a conclusion is made on the basis of information about the range of the anti-aircraft missile “Derby-MR” (for the mobile Spyder-MR), which reaches only 50 km. There is one more example: the Russian two-stage 57-6E bicalyber missile system of the Pantsir-С1 complex. Its flight speed reaches 4680 km / h, the range 20 km, despite the significantly more developed solid fuel stage in relation to the combat stage. The conclusion is unequivocal: applied to the Stunner interceptor missile, the numbers in 40 — 300 km and 7,5М do not mean its range and speed, but the range and maximum flight speed of enemy tactical ballistic missiles. It is even theoretically foolish to assume that the marching section of the Stunner anti-missile trajectory passes at a speed of 7,5M, since the maximum working height of the rocket is 15 — 17 km. The density of the lower layers of the stratosphere is quite high, and therefore the aerodynamic heating of the radome of the optoelectronic homing head will noticeably impede the operation of the infrared guidance channel (there is also a TV channel based on the CCD-matrix and an active radar sensor that allows you to work on targets in difficult meteorological conditions) .

Without looking at the above points with the speed of flight, the anti-missile “Stunner”, as well as its simplified modification for Poland, the “SkyCeptor” (with a slightly reduced solid propellant charge) have rather high flight performance characteristics. Low maneuverability of the product is observed only during the presence of the first (accelerating) stage, after burning out the fuel, the starting stage is separated and the main engine is activated, maintaining the speed of “Stunner / SkyCeptor” at the 5М level, which means high maneuverability in 35 - 45G on the terminal trajectory segment persists over most of the flight path. As a result, developed in addition to the Polish batteries “Patriot PAC-3 +” of the Stanner missile missile worth $ 1 million, it can completely replace the archidoristic MIM-104F in the tasks of interception of a new generation of MLRS guided missiles, most types of anti-radar missiles, guided bombs, also strategic long-range cruise missiles.

A three-channel guidance system with the possibility of radio correction makes it possible to work more effectively on promising elements of high-precision weapons, equipped with electronic warfare tools and heat traps. The active radar homing head is located in the radio-transparent "hump" of the curved head part of the dolphin-nose rocket. This shape of the nose is necessary for expanding the ARGSN field of view, because the correct shape significantly reduces the viewing sector, not allowing the antenna array of the GOS to show its full potential from the overlap of the compartment with the optical-electronic module. This problem was observed in the AIM / RIM-7R air-to-air / ground-to-air missile missile project with semi-active radar and infrared guidance channels, which was developed from 1992 of the year, and then replaced by more advanced AIM-120A / C products and RIM-162 ESSM.

The internal design of the head part of the air-to-air missile AIM-7R (infrared hsn + slit antenna array of the semi-active RGSN)

But SkyCeptor / Stunner also has critical flaws that do not allow it to be classified as a promising anti-missile defense. Despite the fact that Rafael and Raytheon specialists implemented the anti-missile principle of intercepting "hit-to-kill" by direct hitting the target, control is realized only through aerodynamic control surfaces, which do not give the maneuverability observed in missiles with thrust vector or gasdynamic pulsed transverse control engines DPU. This technical flaw, even in perspective, will not allow SkySeptor to "hunt" for such aerospace attack means as operational-tactical ballistic missiles of the 9МXNNXX-723 "Iskander" family, despite advertising by the American-Israeli developer.

Information sources:
https://www.army-technology.com/projects/stunner-terminal-missile-defence-interceptor-israel/
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/11092/israel-is-testing-an-air-to-air-variant-of-its-dolphin-nosed-stunner-missile
https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=84200&page=2
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/191956/poland-signs-loa-for-patriot-pac_3.html
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/erint/erint.shtml

Comments

[lance]

Having read the new data and technical characteristics, we can conclude that nothing stands still, but the armor is strong and our tanks are fast.

[Safevi]

Thanks to the author for an objective review. For the sake of justice, it must be added that the “Caliber” and “Iskander” are also, to put it mildly, not at all cheap samples and it is unlikely that their MASS application should be expected.

[Varyag_0711]

Sefevi Today, 09: 32 ↑ New
Thanks to the author for an objective review. For the sake of justice, it must be added that the “Caliber” and “Iskander” are also, to put it mildly, not at all cheap samples and it is unlikely that their MASS application should be expected.

But I’m somehow not sure about objectivity. Even if we assume that the author knows what he is writing about and the given performance characteristics are true, one simple question arises. HOW MUCH real targets can shoot down 208 missiles ?! Even if we assume that the coefficient of efficiency of the American air defense will be equal to 0,7 (which is very high), then they can bring down a maximum of 146 targets. How many missiles can one Tornado-S division launch? And who said that at first a blow would not be struck by false targets. Does the author not think that 208 missiles are very small to cover at least one area of ​​deployment of the air defense system itself? For effective reflection of a massive strike, I believe that thousands of missiles will not be enough.
And then, and who said that the database will be conducted only with the use of missile weapons? And what other types of weapons will they do? Stand aside, smoke and watch from the side, how missiles fly past them?
No, of course, I understand the author’s concern that unhealthy fuss begins at our borders, but this again is not a reason to reduce everything to the fact that the Patriot is a type of prodigy that will protect the Poles from all misfortunes. This is from the series of what the Javelins will receive and that’s all, the LDNR kirdyk will immediately come ...

[A_L_F]

This is another cut of dough, they want to bring in the Poles expensive expensive inefficient equipment, which will be destroyed first of all with Poland

[Scipio African]

Quote: Varyag_0711

that "Patriot" is a type of child prodigy, which will protect the Poles from all misfortunes.

I agree with you, another question arises - why did the US actually surrender to North Korea, it turns out they themselves do not trust their missile defense systems, when the next Kim threatened a vicious strike against the USA

[Seryoga Gord]

no, no, no, according to the info of the afftor, we should sprinkle our heads with ashes and wait for 2024, when the Poles will be able to curb these systems until they are directly used, and by then, the tan will collapse under the yoke of a trillion debt, and we have the main thing. ..))

[Sergey985]

Testing in a training ground is one thing, that’s how it all behaves in real combat conditions in a difficult jamming environment. It is on paper just beautiful everything, as a rule.

[Herculesic]

Eugene, Patriots are not able to shoot down Iranian missiles, as we see from Saudi Arabia. The claimed characteristics of this complex do not correspond to the realities of today. Although, we need to prepare for war at a literally accelerated pace.

[NG inform]

Able and knock almost everything. Failure rather than success is just being discussed.

[andj61]

Quote: Herkulesich

Eugene, Patriots are not able to shoot down Iranian missiles, as we see from Saudi Arabia. The claimed characteristics of this complex do not correspond to the realities of today. Although, we need to prepare for war at a literally accelerated pace.

But there are other modifications of the Patriots there ...
And the Patriot, in fact, was not originally intended for missile defense - this is just his secondary, not the main task. The Patriots will deliver, they will saturate the theater of operations with offensive weapons, and there, you see, they will deliver missile defense. And they will prepare the troops of the Young Europeans to attack Russia - and all exclusively to deter the Russian threat!
We don’t even have to think about what to answer! Everywhere and everywhere, geyropeytsy should know that the answer will be nuclear and on their territory. And victory in Russia in such situations, in principle, cannot be .

[sib.ataman]

Eugene likes to twirl-juggle TTX, tech. information, terms, etc., garbage, clogging up the text of his analysis. Having read all of this pseudo-scientific nonsense, he’s already breaking his head off from his conclusions! Based on any of his articles, there is only one conclusion — the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, with its rusty junk, where it breaks into the ranks? It’s time to surrender already yesterday, otherwise the sedans will crash the mattress troops, so the pieces of the Russian Air Force will fly through the back streets! But, apparently, not everything is so simple with their missiles, MUR and other FUR. Knowing their superiority, they would have rolled us underground for a long time! But the striped ones are in no hurry, which is not at all like them. And knowing their great tendency to pretty cheat ... From their pseudo-analyzes, which were presented at VO more than once or twice, it follows that we are all torn to pieces! Eugene, if you operate on information from their sources, such as natsinteres, then there are no words ...
Then I went to the copper house, looked at the “Military Reception” about the Scientific Research Institute of Defense, where they research rockets and planes of sworn “partners”, then I involuntarily thought after reading your article, Eugene, for which these parasites have a lot of salaries (and, go ahead, a lot! ) pay? They must be sent to Kolyma, to explore the local soil, well, or to NorLag! But do these rear bugs lie that all TTX and other EP V-2s were studied by them another 10 years before any information about it appeared in the open press? Only one B-2, however, was shot down in Yugoslavia not without their participation. So, that, Eugene, surrenders to me, to wait a while to give up to surrender to the striped-striped.

[Alex_59]

Quote: sib.ataman

Only one B-2, however, was shot down in Yugoslavia not without their participation.

B-2 was shot down in Yugoslavia?

[Vadim Kurbatov]

Rather, his ancestor f-117 and B-2 only further can we say his improvement

[businessv]

Quote: Vadim Kurbatov

Rather, his ancestor f-117 and B-2 only further can we say his improvement

A completely different class of aircraft! B2 - it is not clear for what purpose the invisible bomb carrier, stuffed by the most indulge in electronics, and f117 - a tactical, inconspicuous strike (assault) aircraft.

[Yarhann]

it is crammed with electronics for two reasons - such a form of the aircraft is difficult to control, because the computer directly controls the flight - much like in modern watermelons and Boeing. there’s also a lot of lactronics for diagnosing systems - that is, board automation thanks to this, the crew of only 2 people, namely the on-board electronics is busy with passive monitoring of the environment - that is, electronic and thermal reconnaissance is this main means of protection and invisibility of the aircraft - it simply flies around the air defense areas.
Well, the F-117 is a tactical bomber using technologies developed on the B-2 - and if in the case of a strategist and with a bunch of radio reconnaissance systems and long-range missile weapons it is really inconspicuous and effective, then the F117 was ineffective in combat use - precisely in terms of stealth ( of course, he was normal as a drummer) - that is why they abandoned this plane after the conflict in Yugoslavia - after all, ordinary MFIs can do the same thing and when using electronic warfare aircraft in combat formation, stealth will be on the same level - which was demonstrated in Iraq. Well, it’s not worth forgetting that f117 carried a relatively small bomb load. although the main reason for the removal from service even so was that it was necessary to cut the budget (that is, buy new hawks).

[himpero5.28]

It seems that they have already gone to Kolyma, and because of this they have lost almost half of the Russian population, and the Slavic Russians have been almost completely destroyed (positive genetics is taken into account). It is clear that talking about this “in a decent society” is not accepted, but the situation is such that it is no longer becoming decency. Russia somehow follows the socialist (+ comprador) path of development (excluding personal interest from the economy, lack of engineering, scientific and technical diversity) and therefore has always lagged behind the Americans and will always lag behind.

[Eugene R._2]

for pin dos, your words will be a direct balm)))) Well, we don’t believe this stuff for a long time! and a question .... by "decent society" do you mean all liberals?

[Bypassed]

Tension in the Polish direction was noted in Belarus at the highest level.
What will cover the Belarusian Polonaise missile system is shown in the figure.
For those Russians who do not like Belarusian milk and shrimp, I would like to recall that the Republic of Belarus conducted military exercises only with the Russian Federation.

[JIaIIoTb]

I haven’t tried Belarusian shrimp, I won’t scold But I like your Polonaise, as well as its goals.

[NG inform]

Belarus drops out of Russia's allies. Recent years remain until the moment our troops can be present there, and Belarus at least formally remains our military ally.
Previously, this was clear from the behavior of Lukashenko, who was clinging to the Ukrainian Nazis (direct ideological descendants of those who burned Belarusian villages), during the last major exercises - they did not find any understanding in Belarus and their authorities justified themselves for them (the next major will not, or the question will be posed by the edge). Belarus (represented by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) officially forgot about the union state - i.e. strategic partnership is canceled. In fact, now the situation is like in 2012 in Ukraine - Lukashenko, like Yanukovych, flirts with scum thinking to use them as a tool, at the same time undermining the base for his own power.
I’ll just remind you that the St. George ribbon in Belarus is now practically banned - on May 9 we will see new outbursts of hatred about this, it will be worse than last year. And this is an important ideological marker.

[Bypassed]

Last year, at the events dedicated to May 9, Mr. Lukashenko had a double ribbon in his buttonhole - one side is the St. George ribbon, the second is the apple color.
Question - who wrote your training manuals - update

[NG inform]

And at the same time, there was hysteria supported by the authorities against St. George ribbons from bus drivers. I did not say that everything was already over, but it is clear that it is quickly coming to an end.
Actually, after the ambassador’s speech to the EU, there is no doubt about that. And the manner of justifying the generals for the exercises with Russia is very revealing, they were shy about it.
Here you can refute the counter-facts, and not emotional accusations. But the facts are such that Lukashenko supports Ukraine, the ambassador to the EU talks about the fact that the population in Belarus does not think correctly and that the country is independent of all, which in the context of "allied" relations directly means that they are not in the heads of the Belarusian authorities.

[Bypassed]

This is called looking in the mirror and complimenting the current yourself.
rummage around on the Internet, the trade turnover between the Russian Federation and Ukraine has increased dramatically after all the so-called bans.
and what about the fact that Belarus is selling something to Ukraine - it’s a private matter of a sovereign state (by the way, military MAZs and heavy vehicles are in demand, we can also fit Russia)
In general, in Belarus, ordinary citizens are already tired of the constant trade wars from an ally. And if the so-called ally does not buy, then what prevents Belarus from selling this to another state? For China, milk supplies increased 8 times over the year.
By the way, recently on the Belarusian site, Russians and Ukrainians were very nice whispering about the creation of the CIS Innovation Exchange Fund. The main partners - Russia and Ukraine - is this how to understand?

[NG inform]

Well, look at how it was reforged on the fly.
Commodity circulation between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is at a meager level, and we are not talking about commodity circulation, but political ingratiation. You translated the topic for some reason.
Belarus is either sovereign (this is of course fantastic), or an ally of Russia. You just showed that you are NOT an ally. As I said.
Trade wars come from the fact that you violate the sanctions regime, instead of doing it yourself, for which you were drawn into the customs union - you resell Western goods. This is not just not alliance, but just some disgusting.
Yes, and flirting before the Natsiks have just begun.

[utyutkin]

Quote: NG inform

Commodity turnover between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is at a meager level

answer the facts. in 2017, trade between the Russian Federation and Ukraine amounted to $ 11 billion! maybe someone is not enough, but for me it’s so much for the country according to the assurance of the Ukrainian authorities who attacked Ukraine so very nothing :)

Quote: NG inform

Belarus is either sovereign (this is of course fantastic), or an ally of Russia. You just showed that you are NOT an ally. As I said.

why a country cannot be both sovereign and an ally of Russia is not clear to me :) but I think the same for everyone :)))). and in fact, a country conducting joint military exercises with Russia both on the territory of the Russian Federation and on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, which has a unified air defense system with the Russian Federation, has on its territory military bases of the Russian Federation, and has signed mutual assistance agreements in case of war, is Russia’s ally! only down can deny these facts :)

Quote: NG inform

Trade wars come from the fact that you violate the sanctions regime, instead of doing it yourself, for which you were drawn into the customs union - you resell Western goods. This is not just not alliance, but just some disgusting.

trade wars my dear friend is usually waged for money !!!!! because of a lot of money !!!! and here it’s not difficult to guess that somewhere there are people who want to increase the price of milk in Russia by 20%, and of course, cheap high-quality milk from the Republic of Belarus puts an end to their Napoleonic plans. and it also helps Russians maintain their home budgets! I still can’t forget the video about some kind of bearded earlings who was crying about the fact that if you increase the cost of cheese in Russia by 10%, then their production will magically improve and become profitable :) and sculpted these very cheeses in some kind of shack: ) and regarding oysters and other goods, an agreement was signed on this subject where it was written in black and white that if sanctioned goods are processed, then they are considered to be produced in the territory of the country where they are processed. and it is a fact! and if you think that compliance with the signed agreements is disgusting, well then you’re too late to heal :) just kill the wall :)

[NG inform]

> why a country cannot be sovereign at the same time and be an ally of Russia is not clear to me
And here it is. And on this misunderstanding, they bred you like suckers.
The idea that Belarus can be sovereign is worse than the belief of Soviet citizens that as soon as they have a choice of two or more candidates, life will get better right away.
In the meantime, everything goes to the point that Belarus will cease to be a military ally in a couple of years, and then the standard of living there will fall by 4 times and Muscovites will be blamed for this more severely than now svidomye.
Just because you live in some kind of alternative reality, where the world is peace, and the bug can talk on equal terms with the wolf.

[utyutkin]

Quote: NG inform

Belarus drops out of Russia's allies. Recent years remain until the moment our troops can be present there, and Belarus at least formally remains our military ally

Pts funny :) no matter how much you lie, she was there and will be the closest ally of Russia! :)

Quote: NG inform

Previously, this was clear from the behavior of Lukashenko, who fussed with Ukrainian Nazis (direct ideological descendants of those who burned Belarusian villages)

I must say that your lies offend the feelings and memory of Belarusians. give at least 1 example that the president of the Republic of Belarus supported or "fussed" with those who burned Belarusian villages. you probably again beguiled manuals :)

Quote: NG inform

I’ll just remind you that the St. George ribbon in Belarus is now practically banned - on May 9 we will see new outbursts of hatred about this, it will be worse than last year. And this is an important ideological marker.

again lies and attempts to incite interstate hatred. I personally went with such a ribbon and no one not only did not say a word against me, but also a lot of people went like that. In a word, you are an ordinary liar with an expired methodical!

[NG inform]

> no matter how much you nonsense she was and will be Russia's closest ally!
So an ally, or a sovereign (independent) state? These are antonyms.

> the President of the Republic of Belarus supported or "tsatskalsya"
Receive and sign: https://lenta.ru/news/2017/01/27/lukashenko/
It won’t reach you, but at least I tried.

> again lies and attempts to incite interstate hatred.
Receive and sign: http://gazetanm.eu/content/georgievskie-lenty-vb
larusi-bolshe-ne-simvol-pobedy
Cut gradually so that they do not notice, but inevitably - consider that the train has already left.

[utyutkin]

Well, thanks :) Well, pleased :) enchanting stupidity!

Quote: NG inform

Receive and sign: https://lenta.ru/news/2017/01/27/lukashenko/
It won’t reach you, but at least I tried.

just a classic fake for divorce suckers :)))))
let's start with the fact that the tape smells excuse my urine :) that is, this is a classic edition from the category of "yellow press"! and quote something from the tape is like smoking in a gas mask :))))). Well, okay, now let's look at how they threw you like a sucker :)))))). so the phrase that you probably did not like :)))))
- “We got independence very cheaply: all nations fought, today our fraternal Ukraine is fighting. We must not be allowed to fight. We are a peace-loving people, ”Lukashenko said. now look at the person when he says he doesn’t pronounce punctuation marks :)))) well, the person doesn’t speak the colon :))) they are then placed by the editor of the tape.ru or such an agency of the OBS :)))))! and now let's see how this phrase sounds without a colon :))))))
"We got independence very cheaply." - I hope there are no complaints about this proposal? the president, as always, is brief and objective!
"all nations fought." - well, no crime :)
"today our fraternal Ukraine is fighting!" - Say she’s not fighting? - Of course he is fighting. and that we don’t have brothers and sisters of friends and just good friends there? of course have. and you have :)))))). therefore, it is brotherly because our roots are there, and your same roots are there. and they refuse it, they live in an alternative reality. apparently you did not like the phrase about the fact that we are a peace-loving people and do not want to fight, so this is not news, this is reality :)))
Now consider an even more fun post about the fact that there shouldn’t be any St. George tapes :)))))) how can I be such a sucker, I’m just wondering :)))))) remember once and for all if the newspaper is registered on the .eu domain then this is any newspaper but not Belarusian :))))))). most likely Ukrainian or English :)))). Well, it’s better known to them from Albion what is happening in the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation :)))) and this newspaper is being published for the State Department of the USA :)))) and you brought it so enchantingly as proof of your lying words :))))). in general, it is already obvious that you are a regular paid paid :) you could not object to any actual material and all the time lied and referred to a lie :))). Do not disgrace, we count you drain :))))))

[svp67]

So, the Polish Redzikovo air base is located at a distance of about 325 km from the positions of the 79th separate guards motorized rifle brigade (Gusev) and 215 km from the location of the 244th guards artillery brigade (Kaliningrad). Conventional artillery at such distances has absolutely no tactical significance. It will be of use to the Iskander-M operational-tactical missile systems, high-precision long-range systems such as the Tornado-S and Belarusian Polonez.

We conclude that the strike on the positions of these missile defense systems should be combined. In the first wave of the MLRS missile, and when the enemy spends part of the missile defense and will begin reloading, the Iskanders will have to fly up to the area of ​​positions ... Yes, there are some calculations to occupy ourselves with our "gods of war"

[K-50]

“Getting away” from the MIM-104F will be not so simple not only of a low-maneuverable aerodynamic or ballistic target, but also of an object maneuvering with an overload of 20-30 units, especially since the MIM-104F has a speed of about 1480 m / s (5312 km / h)

So far, even Scud missiles have difficulty catching.

Noticeable difficulties can arise only in the process of intercepting the 9M723-1 Iskander-M maneuvering tactical ballistic missiles, but even here the probability of destruction is far from zero, but approaches approximately 0,15 - 0,25.

That is, for each missile from Iskander you have to spend about 7 missiles?
In general, then they have enough ammunition? After all, if there are launches on them, then it is clearly not single and not paired. But then you still need time to recharge.
Oh well. Anyway, if you boil it will begin to turn everyone into a roast with a nuclear flame.

[Wilderness]

It seemed to me, or does the launching rocket (in the photo for the article) have a crooked nose? Is this the way it should be?

[sib.ataman]

Quote: bypassed

Tension in the Polish direction was noted in Belarus at the highest level.
What will cover the Belarusian Polonaise missile system is shown in the figure.
For those Russians who do not like Belarusian milk and shrimp, I would like to recall that the Republic of Belarus conducted military exercises only with the Russian Federation.

Shrimp with milk - an exclusive recipe for RB! Who is against the exclusive? As long as the farmer’s mentality prevails in Belarus, understanding the “Russian humor” is an overwhelming topic.
Is there anything to change in this world? Either the 5th wheel of the cart, or the collar of the horse, but definitely something?

[igorka357]

But I didn’t understand something, have the Russian Armed Forces already been planning to attack Poland? No, they haven’t, but if we are defending ourselves, which we always do, in principle .. then these missiles will be destroyed first of all .. I think so ..))

[outsider]

Quote: igorka357

But I didn’t understand something, have the Russian Armed Forces already been planning to attack Poland? No, they haven’t, but if we are defending ourselves, which we always do, in principle .. then these missiles will be destroyed first of all .. I think so ..))

- Anti-missiles will be destroyed by missiles for the destruction of which anti-missiles are intended!

[u1977020556]

You are like children in a sandbox ... The one with the best nuclear mushrooms will win ... And the laser piu-piu who will be tougher ...

[Forever so]

The most modern weapon is nothing if it is used by an unwise person. Who said that the calibers and iskander will go in the first echelon, when they can be knocked down by a sperpuper, a terrible Polish-American system on fart apples Another article of the next sofa expert.

[misti1973]

Very entertaining! But in terms of imposing conflicts it seems like hysteria. It’s completely useless for him. And that means they won’t.

[u1977020556]

There will be, Vasya, will be. It was necessary to watch the statement of the Anonymous.
If the pipe is built, it should smoke.
Chasing tanks across the globe is very expensive.
And the calculation here is clear - it’s already being done so that there is no use of any Escanders. The first blows are planned not at the borders, but in the center of Russia, where the rot itself has gathered around the authorities. Wait for changes, they will come anyway, and then, if They are lucky, they will be able to move armored vehicles into battle. Only she just goes and will crush the patriots with grenades, because that's the only way they are at war, such is their calculation this time. Rotten will remain rotten. They can win if we forget or don’t know who they really are.

[Old26]

Quote: sefevi

Thanks to the author for an objective review.

Have Eugene? Objective? He in his role is the mass of TTX because of which the thread of his reasoning is lost ...

Quote: Varyag_0711

then one simple question arises. HOW MUCH real targets can shoot down 208 missiles ?! Even if we assume that the coefficient of efficiency of the American air defense will be equal to 0,7 (which is very high), then they can bring down a maximum of 146 targets.

Less. If the probability of hitting a ballistic target with one missile is 0,7 (this is a really good result), then 99,8 missiles are needed to hit a ballistic target with a probability of 5%, whereas with a probability of 99,2% - 4 missiles. So, with the greatest probability - about 42 goals. Maybe much more, but there is mathematics and much more. You can shoot down the target with one missile, or with five ...

Quote: Herkulesich

Eugene, Patriots are not able to shoot down Iranian missiles, as we see from Saudi Arabia. The claimed characteristics of this complex do not correspond to the realities of today. Although, we need to prepare for war at a literally accelerated pace.

If we sell our S-400s to the Saudis and they just as well will not be able to shoot down Yemeni SCADAS, what will it say? The fact that the complexes are crappy or those who exploit their hands do not grow from there ???

[u1977020556]

Let's collect all the numbers in a heap and hand over the borders of our homeland EUROSHA. We have an iron justification - there are a lot of numbers, they are all complex, so you do not need to take a position and fire ...
Dear author, your article is not finished. There is no opinion of those who are going to defend themselves in this direction.

[usovo1]

Eugene, many thanks for the competent article!

[himpero5.28]

I completely agree, urapatrioty are engaged in auto-training

[GUKTU76]

And what do the "katspredlagaetsdatsy" do? I can’t pick up anything censorship.

[John Steinpreiss]

* I don’t know how YOU are Russians, and I would have destroyed these missiles on the steps of displacement to the place of deployment. Because it will save the lives of millions of Russian citizens. Choose me as COMMANDERS and I will save your life and repay all the debts of Russia.

[evgeny68]

Damantsev cannot stop, a lot of beech trees. I am not special., But even from open sources it becomes clear that the means of attack are now stronger than the means of defense, and on both sides.

[outsider]

Quote: evgeny68

Damantsev cannot stop, a lot of beech trees. I am not special., But even from open sources it becomes clear that the means of attack are now stronger than the means of defense, and on both sides.

- So you do not believe in the magical power of Russian air defense ??! Which "in one fell swoop of all the beating" ?! Like in Syria: missiles from the museum have crumbled the latest stealth-KR modifications with a 100% probability!
Interesting: Putin slipped exactly the same bullshit, or did they correct a little?