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Universal amnesia for danger, or the world really went crazy

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So, in the Baltics a full-fledged division of the US armed forces is deployed. This was stated by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, General Konashenkov. The cries about the aggressiveness of Russia and the "seizure of Belarus" after the end of the exercise "West-2017" ended. And now it will be difficult to talk about the Russian threat. The situation is changing radically. Although in the light of the policy pursued by the West with respect to our country, it can be assumed that there will be explanations. Something like: NATO strengthens the defense of its eastern borders from attack, for example, North Korea.




But there is also Poland, where the 2-I armored brigade of the USA arrived. And the 3 armored brigade is already in Europe. Of course, you can entertain yourself with the question of personnel. Technique of equipment, and it must be controlled by a soldier. A soldier must be delivered. It is clear that to deliver personnel from the United States, even by plane for a long time. Only who said that it will be from the USA? Everything is easier, the staff is in Germany. And its delivery will take 2 hours.

Why am I writing about changing the situation? You never know where NATO has deployed its soldiers. Documents read. What happened is contrary to the main document on which NATO-Russia relations are based. The very one that is loudly called the “Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security between the Russian Federation and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization”.

In principle, this is not the first global violation of the Act. I will allow myself to quote lines of mutual obligations, so that you understand what I mean. "For the implementation of the activities and objectives stipulated by this Act, the development of common approaches to European security and political issues, Russia and NATO are creating a Joint Russia-NATO Permanent Council. The core task of the Joint Permanent Council will be to create a higher level of trust, unity of goals and skills of consultation and cooperation between Russia and NATO in order to enhance the security of each other and of all countries in the Euro-Atlantic region and to preserve the security of anyone. of disagreement, Russia and NATO will make efforts to resolve them in good faith and mutual respect in the framework of political consultations. "

As you can see, the preparation for the current state of our relations was conducted systematically. I will not even write about Yugoslavia and those countries that appeared in its place. Written-rewritten many times. But the fact that the Council has rested in the Bose is necessary. This is really serious. Another direct quotation from the Act:

"Russia and the NATO member states undertake to show restraint during the negotiation period, as stipulated in the Coverage and Parameters Document, in relation to the current constructions and capabilities of their conventional armed forces - in particular with regard to the levels and deployment of their forces - in the area of ​​application of the CFE Treaty to prevent damage to the safety of any of its parties as a result of the development of the security situation in Europe. This obligation does not impair the possibility of nyatiya individual member states on a voluntary basis of the decisions on the reduction of levels or deployments of their forces and without prejudice to their legitimate security interests. "

But this point is that which practically reduces everything else to zero. Full placement of connections near our borders just showed that the Act turned into just a piece of paper. I do not know whether it is worth making any effort to reanimate it. Theoretically, I understand that this is very serious. The next step could be another European war. And practically I see that none of the Europeans even moved a finger to somehow resist it. On the contrary, the “old Europe” with the look of a wise grandmother, with irony, looks at how “Young Europeans” frolic.

I am more interested in the purely military aspect of the decision taken by NATO. Will the new connections reinforce the defenses of the Baltic states and Poland? Will they make NATO bases safe in Europe? And whether the conflict threatens to escalate into a world war. Well, and how will the appearance of the American military affect the "calm of our borders".

I will begin with a very offensive for the citizens of the Baltic countries and the Polish statement. Since the times of the Soviet Union, the main NATO doctrine has never been aimed at protecting these territories. Never. This is said little, but it is a fact. And I will try to decipher my application.

Since its inception, NATO has been engaged not so much in strengthening the defense of its own countries as it has been used to pressure the USSR. All statements about the stop of the Soviet tanks at the frontiers of NATO, the experts evoked an ironic smile. If the tanks from the groups of Soviet troops moved west, then the defense time would be considered hours or days.

Then the question arises: what was all this for Europe? Older readers will remind their childhood pale blue. Remember the grandmother who brought you up in the summer. Remember the classic words of such grandmothers then. "If only there was no war ..." For people who survived all the horrors of war, for a country without a family that was not touched by war, this was and remains the most important factor in foreign policy.

On this and "played" strategists from the block. They understood the futility of trying to protect something there, but it was their threat to spread the conflict to the global scale. The escalation of the conflict is the main principle of NATO’s activities since its inception. And the same postulate "surfaced" today. The Baltic states and Poland in this game are just an area where, according to Western strategists, Russia and NATO will "collide". Further negotiations.

By the way, the United States today is engaged in exactly the same prediction of the conflict. The Americans do not see in a nuclear-free war a place for strikes on their own territory. "Old" Europe too. Need a theater of war. And this theater can be "Young Europeans" and Ukraine. The conflict must pass in the territories of countries from the former socialist camp.

Moreover, those units and formations that today are in these countries are not intended for the defense of "allies", but for solving completely non-military tasks in peacetime. Ordinary occupation troops with all the ensuing responsibilities. After all, no one doubts that the military bases in the territory, for example Germany, are the bases of the occupying forces since the end of the Second World War.

Of course, you can think about the question in general about Russia's ability to wage war in Europe. Can we win? Suppose that NATO still “pinched” somewhere and the conflict began. Will the Russian army stop in those territories that the leadership of the alliance suggests? It is doubtful. Historical experience shows that the enemy must be finished off.

What we have been talking about for several years, I mean modern, high-precision weapon, today is no longer dominant. Russia has proven to possess such weapons. And is able to apply it. The hopes of Europe for their own precision weapons and the same weapons from the United States burst. And in the field of conventional weapons, even with the huge superiority of the alliance in the European theater, we can really compete. So victory is just a matter of time.

But will this victory not be pyrrhic? Alas, the analysis shows that it will be a Pyrrhic victory. War cannot be limited only to Europe. Automatically it will capture other parts of the world. And here the problem arises. Our fleet and our distant aviation will not be able to resist the fleet Alliance and USA. I remind you that this is a nuclear-free war. And this will be, if not a disaster, then a sufficiently strong blow to us. We will lose more than win.

And then, it is clear that in the event of a loss in a nuclear-free war, the enemy will use nuclear. And this threat will always be. Not even use, but simply the threat will strain the headquarters of both sides seriously enough.

Probably attentive readers noticed that so far everything that I described has little connection directly with the United States. More precisely, it is connected with parts of the US Army in Europe. And how will American forces operate in other parts of the world? It is clear that the "fuss" in Poland and the Baltic States will give Washington time to transfer some part of its army to Europe. And the rest of the army?

Americans will prepare and carry out their traditional attacks "on the islands." The European war, according to the plans of the NATO strategists, will deprive Russia of the opportunity to seriously strengthen the eastern regions. Therefore, one should wait for amphibious assault forces in the Far East. The destruction of missile and air strikes of our naval bases in this region. Our Kaliningrad region will also be attacked. Alas, the chances of retaining these regions at the beginning of hostilities are quite small. They will be forced to act independently. Almost under siege.

There are still places that will be attacked in the initial period of the conflict. Transnistria, this is understandable without comment, the Russian base in Tajikistan, from the territory of Afghanistan. We will also not be able to protect these territories and bases in the initial period of the conflict.

Ultimately, I will repeat what I wrote above, who would not have won the initial, nuclear-free, period of war, this is only the preface of a nuclear confrontation. Any of the opposing sides will certainly use their nuclear forces to break the war.

It is no secret that command-staff exercises or military games are held in any army in the world, where scenarios of various combat operations are worked out. North Atlantic Alliance is no exception. Strategists from Brussels have undoubtedly already worked out the scenario that I described above. There is nothing new here. Similar scenarios were worked out during the Soviet era. The only difference today is that the territory has changed. Moved east. From Germany to Poland and the Baltic States.

Recently, such games have been held at the Rand Corporation's strategic research center. Naturally, the scenario of Russia's attack on the Baltic states was played out. The specialists of the center have enough qualified compared the potential of NATO and Russia. And they came to an unequivocal conclusion, which generally coincides with mine. Details are not particularly important. Yes, and the details can not be the same. Russia will be able to quickly seize the Baltic countries. NATO is not able to oppose anything serious.

You can, of course, talk about the new round of the Cold War. You can talk about trying to still draw Russia into an arms race. You can even talk about information "for internal use." However, there is one small but significant nuance. The strategic research center of the Rand Corporation does not work just like that. Situation analysis, risks and predictions of events are used by NATO headquarters to develop a strategy and tactics for the unit’s actions.

In general, a strange feeling from those reports that appeared in the Western press on the results of the center. Analysis, which in principle is done in order to somehow clarify the situation, completely confused it. Experts from NATO countries, like our experts, are in complete prostration. Indeed, what to do with the current balance of power? Go for aggravation? But then there will be what I described above. Calm down and return to the status quo? Then it is necessary to go into open conflict with the United States. "Freeze" process? Then how to explain to your own people an increase in military budgets?

What is it? Universal amnesia for danger? Or is the world really crazy? I have no answer to this question ...
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  1. SMP
    SMP 16 October 2017 14: 23 New
    +1
    So, in the Baltic States a full-fledged division of the US armed forces is deployed. This was stated by the official representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, General Konashenkov.
    ...............................
    What is it? Universal amnesia for danger? Or is the world really crazy? I have no answer to this question ...
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    Most likely they are preparing for the collapse of Ukraine.
    There are Shatov economists and the Central Intelligence Agency, apparently the forecasts are not at all comforting, a parade of sovereignty is likely to come and Hungary in Transcarpathia and Rusyns, and something is also brewing in the central part of Ukraine.

    It is quite possible that they are preparing for Poroshenko’s regime’s military assistance
    1. japs
      japs 16 October 2017 16: 35 New
      +8
      The situation is complicated. Ahead is the further deepening of the crisis of the capitalist system.
      It is Matrasia. The next 3-5 years will solve everything. Kayuk to a dead raccoon, Kayuk USA.
      Unless, of course, our liberal rulers help the "partner" survive.
      And this depends on our people - whether we want to continue to “hold on” and endure mediocrity.
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      2. MadCat
        MadCat 17 October 2017 01: 07 New
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        Quote: japs
        Ahead is the further deepening of the crisis of the capitalist system.

        it is the capitalist (oligarchic) ​​system that is now in Russia, so be afraid of your desires, otherwise 2008 will seem like a children's party.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 20 October 2017 11: 36 New
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          So then it is. Yes, you still have to go through it. If the financial scheme of the SGA collapses (it is only not clear when), it will not seem to anyone. And so that it does not collapse, they NEED a war, and certainly a world war. SGA, also just a bargaining chip of financiers, if it falls, it will be transferred to another country. But they do not want to lose money, and the transfer of their center is the loss of money (very large) and the loss of influence for some time.
      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 October 2017 23: 37 New
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        And the United States will help Russia survive.

        And this crisis is precisely the cause of military tensions.
  2. NIKNN
    NIKNN 16 October 2017 14: 30 New
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    What is it? Universal amnesia for danger? Or is the world really crazy? I have no answer to this question ...
    Well, you are a respected author .... It is clear to everyone that America is cutting the budget .. how can it be without threats? Well, looking at an example of a partner .. why wouldn’t we have a drink too? We are partners ... request
    1. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 16 October 2017 18: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: NIKNN
      why don't we cut it?


      Here the RF is at a height, they sawed, sawed and will be sawing, and so, with everything literally and at all levels, soon there will be only sawdust.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 16 October 2017 19: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: karabas-barabas
        Here the RF is at a height, they sawed, sawed and will be sawing, and so, with everything literally and at all levels, soon there will be only sawdust.

        Well, it’s insulting to the states, they’re obsessed with business ... smile
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 16 October 2017 20: 15 New
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          More precisely, Trump himself is offended, from there there was undisguised envy of Putin and a huge interest in cooperation!))
      2. CooL_SnipeR
        CooL_SnipeR 19 October 2017 17: 24 New
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        Quote: karabas-barabas
        Quote: NIKNN
        why don't we cut it?


        Here the RF is at a height, they sawed, sawed and will be sawing, and so, with everything literally and at all levels, soon there will be only sawdust.
        Saw the Shura, saw (c) You would also saw, there would be an opportunity. And you do not need to build a moral phage. It’s one thing for a 1000-meter shank or 1000 apartments in Moscow ... and if a child is sick and without options? So any person has leverage and a threshold.
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 26 October 2017 21: 45 New
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          Quote: CooL_SnipeR
          You would also be sawing, there would be an opportunity.

          You don’t have to judge by yourself, there would be an opportunity ... Putin created opportunities for the loyalty of officials, where everything has long been controlled by mutual responsibility. And where is the people to steal, so what? And, as successes, many people stole?
  3. a.sirin
    a.sirin 16 October 2017 14: 38 New
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    Nonsense is complete. This whole thing was provoked by ourselves. Whether the result is good or bad is another matter. The attack on Russia is bullshit, nobody - even the Chinese - think of anything like that.
    1. japs
      japs 16 October 2017 16: 43 New
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      Once, a diplomat in Berlin in 1939 very convincingly proved that the Second World War is almost impossible.
      You, or a telepath, reading the thoughts of NATO and mattresses, coupled with the Chinese, or just a disguised foe.
      1. karabas-barabas
        karabas-barabas 16 October 2017 18: 51 New
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        Quote: japs
        one diplomat in Berlin in 1939 very convincingly proved that the Second World War is practically impossible.


        Is he up to Finland and together with the Wehrmacht capture of Poland said? Anyway, what does the 39th year have to do with it?

        Quote: japs
        You, or a telepath, reading the thoughts of NATO and mattresses, coupled with the Chinese, or just a disguised foe.


        And why be able to read someone’s thoughts in order to be skeptical of this article, it’s better to be able to get information from adequate sources and should start with a long time to avoid misinformation. Moreover, to call someone an enemy (to whom ??? Russians or something, or conspiracy theorists), just because he doubts the conclusions, like in the article, about NATO’s allegedly treacherous attack on Russia, doesn’t sound quite adequately. Even in families, among people who are close to each other, there are disagreements and different opinions, that's why it’s enough to divide Russian people into friends and foes.
      2. a.sirin
        a.sirin 16 October 2017 19: 44 New
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        You can learn more about the "disguised foe"
    2. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 19 October 2017 05: 51 New
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      Quote: a.sirin
      Nonsense is complete. This whole thing was provoked by ourselves. Whether the result is good or bad is another matter. The attack on Russia is bullshit, nobody - even the Chinese - think of anything like that.

      Have you thought of it yourself or who suggested it? What triggered by what events?
  4. knn54
    knn54 16 October 2017 16: 26 New
    +3
    “Most of the time, the United States is reminiscent of impotent talking about his sexual victories. The more people know about his inability to do this, the more he tries to prove the opposite, but only in words. ”
  5. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 16 October 2017 17: 39 New
    +4
    Unfortunately, several generations have already grown up who did not know war. Plus, the global crisis has diminished all resources. All this together and leads the world to war. This is clear to everyone. I want to dwell on another problem. In Russia, people are not consolidated but divided. There is no idea, no ideology, no leader! That's what is really scary! Power in fact is not legitimate and the upcoming elections will not add legitimacy to it. Putin hopes for a contract army and a guard, but when the conflict escalates to a larger scale, the army and the guard are not enough! Of course, they will again try to manipulate the meanings and give their squabble for a war for the fatherland (I apologize for the tautology) But who will be ready to fight, knowing who is trying to manipulate the power, that the power is comprador in essence, that it is simply not legitimate? Who wants to fight under the leadership of Dvorkovich, Oreshkin, Medvedev, Sechin, Gref, Abramovich, etc.? Ask each yourself this question!
    1. Sverdlov
      Sverdlov 16 October 2017 18: 33 New
      +7
      Oath.
      It is received by soldiers and officers, vowing to defend their homeland even at the cost of their lives.
      And many, many heroes laid their heads on the battlefields. Obeying the order. Afraid of being shot for cowardice. But many, many gave their lives fighting for their homeland.
      Why give life now?
      I have been living for a long time. My father was the deputy of the great designer Fedor Fedorovich Petrov. His guns are now killing the inhabitants of Donbas. And I'm ashamed of it.
      Only there are beings in relation to whom the expression "your honor" offends the word Honor.
      I wanted to protect the honor of my father. He and my dying mother, people whom I had considered family friends since childhood, tried to take away a house in the village. The building is ninety years old today. A wooden hut with buildings, which my parents bought many years ago with them as a share.
      Without us and against the will of the father, even before the death of the mother began to host, cut down trees, cut the house.
      I promised the old moron to slap him with a shovel.
      I rushed to the court. And I was convicted of being beaten on evidence: a bunch of witnesses from the village “showed” that the wife of the “patient” told them that I had beaten him. And based on the conclusion of the forensic expert in which it is written "objectively, no traces of beatings were found."
      I was tried for three years trying to force me to admit a crime. For another seven years I wrote to various instances with the exception of the supreme court. The last answer I broke down on was signed by the chairman of the Sverdlovsk Regional Court: "you were correctly convicted on the basis of the testimonies of witnesses and the conclusion of the forensic expert"
      But that's not all.
      Nowadays.
      Subpoena comes. The city of Verkhnyaya Pyshma in the Sverdlovsk region. As a law-abiding citizen I go. Permmezhregiongaz office requires me to pay for gas! Forgive me, Lord, I’ll explain to the tutka in the mantle, I don’t live and never lived in Perm at the address indicated in the lawsuit. Here's my passport. Request Perm registration at.
      Decides - pay!
      Or am I or in our country a mess?
      For whom to fight?
      For these?
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 20 October 2017 11: 46 New
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        Oath.
        It is received by soldiers and officers, vowing to defend their homeland even at the cost of their lives.

        Yes, they accept and what ?! Remember how they, swearing allegiance to the people, behaved in 1991.
        And now this situation has only intensified.
        I agree with you, no one will go to fight for such. For their "gardens" will go and I am no exception. I had similar cases with the courts and the tax authorities, and my first desire was when you realize that NONE of them are going to fulfill their duties.
    2. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 16 October 2017 19: 01 New
      +2
      So, unfortunately in the Russian army, it’s undesirable to think for yourself that the authorities think for you “correctly-politically” and vote in the elections as it should, and if this, as you rightly noted, the comprador’s power, by its nature, will decide something from all the characters known , then units will go to war, thinking little about the meaning of their mission.

      P.S. What kind of "global crisis" did you mention ?? What did you mean? If the economy, then in the west, like other big players, the economy has been growing for several years. It is all illogical in the Russian Federation at first glance and vice versa. But according to the state of affairs in the Russian Federation, the rest of the world should not be judged.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 October 2017 23: 42 New
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        In crises of capitalism, economic growth is only in the media.
    3. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 19 October 2017 05: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Unfortunately, several generations have already grown up who did not know war. Plus, the global crisis has diminished all resources. All this together and leads the world to war. This is clear to everyone. I want to dwell on another problem. In Russia, people are not consolidated but divided. There is no idea, no ideology, no leader! That's what is really scary! Power in fact is not legitimate and the upcoming elections will not add legitimacy to it. Putin hopes for a contract army and a guard, but when the conflict escalates to a larger scale, the army and the guard are not enough! Of course, they will again try to manipulate the meanings and give their squabble for a war for the fatherland (I apologize for the tautology) But who will be ready to fight, knowing who is trying to manipulate the power, that the power is comprador in essence, that it is simply not legitimate? Who wants to fight under the leadership of Dvorkovich, Oreshkin, Medvedev, Sechin, Gref, Abramovich, etc.? Ask each yourself this question!

      What are you calling for? Can you immediately surrender to the grace of your masters? Read what "legitimacy" is. And then write.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 25 October 2017 16: 28 New
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        I didn’t ask you and your owners what to do.
        1. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 26 October 2017 05: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          I didn’t ask you and your owners what to do.

          Don’t be afraid, your services in defending the Homeland are not needed. There is more harm from you than good! We have much more citizens who, at the time of the need to protect their homeland, do not whine and whine about those who have taken from whom! It’s just that these people understand that they are defending their homeland from a real enemy. You don’t understand this!
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 26 October 2017 10: 35 New
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            The main thing is that you understand this disease :-) When you will defend the Homeland from a real enemy, the main thing is not to engage in self-shooting and slope for health reasons.
            1. astronom1973n
              astronom1973n 26 October 2017 10: 42 New
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              Quote: andrej-shironov
              The main thing is that you understand this disease :-) When you will defend the Homeland from a real enemy, the main thing is not to engage in self-shooting and slope for health reasons.

              From 1994, then 1999-2000 and beyond, he was with his unit where you are not destined to be! So hide where writing to please your owners is more convenient! Just don’t think that they’ll bring a cookie to you, maybe just something else.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 26 October 2017 10: 43 New
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                Really in the zone?
  6. Elevator in the building
    Elevator in the building 16 October 2017 21: 30 New
    +1
    "We will lose more than we win." - Are you sure? There is a strong suspicion that in the event of a protracted non-nuclear conflict on our territory, world radishes will be able to see the revival of the Phoenix of the Soviet Union. And a completely different story will begin .. But thanks for the article. Peace to us.
  7. Tektor
    Tektor 16 October 2017 22: 30 New
    0
    Unfortunately, in the conflict with NATO, the number 2 goal will be nuclear power plants ... Therefore, even in a non-nuclear conflict, extensive radioactive contamination cannot be avoided. Unless we can create closed access zones over our nuclear power plants. A conflict only in the territory of limotrophy is very unlikely, in my opinion, strikes should be applied to the entire depth of the enemy’s defense and be synchronized in time. Those. and the French, and Spaniards, and arrogant must take the "pill" at the same time with the tribalt. Back in Soviet times, the depth of army action planning was more than 1000 km from the front ... And the basis should be the rapid advance of tank wedges to force the enemy to hit their own territory, doing BDSM.
    1. domokl
      17 October 2017 04: 34 New
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      The option with a breakthrough of tank wedges was considered. Moreover, this option has enough supporters. Only, a quick breakthrough will create a rather serious problem with lolistics. And second, from the time of the USSR, Western Europe has a very good anti-tank defense system. And this, coupled with the presence of serious aviation units, which we are unlikely to be able to quickly drop from the sky, is quite serious ..
  8. Meshchersky
    Meshchersky 16 October 2017 23: 42 New
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    The situation is complicated. Ahead is the further deepening of the crisis of the capitalist system.
    It is Matrasia. The next 3-5 years will solve everything. Kayuk dead raccoon, kayuk USA.
    Unless, of course, our liberal rulers help the "partner" survive.
    And this depends on our people - whether we want to continue to “hold on” and endure mediocrity.

    What, again, "Omerege Penza"? Bro, this country is strong! It is still very strong and very rich. Her problem is that those who REALLY rule here (not Trump) are very, very old. And they have no successors.
    1. japs
      japs 19 October 2017 14: 56 New
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      I'm sorry, I was late with the answer. There are successors, you just don’t see them. As the "godfathers" wither, they will appear in public. About 200 elders have an extensive crowd of relatives. Well educated. Knowing philosophy, theology, reading K. Marx, Lenin. These successors will continue to steer the world order.
  9. SMP
    SMP 17 October 2017 07: 51 New
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    Quote: japs
    It is Matrasia. The next 3-5 years will solve everything. Kayuk to a dead raccoon, Kayuk USA.


    Alas, it will take no less than a century, several generations to undermine the system of shat, and only then together with China.
    To underestimate the enemy is no longer the luxury of hatred,
    and criminal negligence
  10. intuzazist
    intuzazist 18 October 2017 17: 15 New
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    If something happens, it will be a shame that it happened, and you not only can’t hold onto the helm, but also lie down for the Maksimka ................
  11. 1536
    1536 19 October 2017 05: 25 New
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    Most likely, the Americans will turn the occupied territories around the borders of Russia into zones of a) instability, for example, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, which will control like Afghanistan, and b) transshipment points of drugs, crime, smuggling, etc., these are the Baltic states, Poland and other similar state education.
  12. CooL_SnipeR
    CooL_SnipeR 19 October 2017 17: 58 New
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    Cool, there was a Warsaw pact - they have Nata ... right now we are alone, but they are still afraid laughing Nata has recently looked like a shafka, who barks for decency and self-affirmation, but does not climb forward. Nothing, the bastards are barking, the caravan is coming ...
  13. nikvic46
    nikvic46 19 October 2017 19: 23 New
    +1
    I come from the USSR. We are often accused of our poverty. I will not argue about the queues for food. I want to say that
    preserving the world is a very expensive affair. But in our past we lived quietly under a peaceful sky, and did not think
    what money the state cost to ensure peaceful work and peaceful life. They have long said "guns instead of oil."
    If the difference between the ruling elite was insignificant. But now this difference between the common people and the propertied class is not just big, but huge. And the price of maintaining the World has not fallen. And who will bear the brunt of the costs clearly.
    I do not call for socialism, but the fact that the current political system is untenable. It is necessary to move away from unlimited capitalism to a social and social system where every worker will be a co-owner of the enterprise. This
    will contribute to the monolith of Russia.
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 20 October 2017 11: 49 New
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      Alas, unrealistic.