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Tanks of the armed forces of Turkey were stopped by militants of the IG in the area of ​​Al-Bab

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Militants of the so-called “Islamic State” (prohibited in the Russian Federation), according to their own reports in the social network accounts controlled by the terrorists, carried out a change of “field command” in the Deir ez-Zor area. The new igilovskiy leader arrived at Deir ez-Zor from the territory of Iraq - according to some information, from Mosul, where the “coalition” who has been trying to take the city under its own control for a month.


Against this background, the Ishilovites organized the next stage of the offensive in several directions to Deir ez-Zor. By regrouping their forces, ISIS fighters tried to break through the defenses of the Syrian army in the east of the city, but the Syrian aviation, which took off from the airfield at Al-Kamyshly, did not allow the militants to carry out their plan.

Representatives of the so-called Syrian “opposition,” say that the igilovtsy were able to capture one of the Deir-ez-Zor districts, but neither the igilovtsy themselves nor the forces of the SAR government army confirm this information. The operation in Deir ez-Zor and Palmyra (Tadmor) continues.

Against this background, attention is drawn to the information coming from Mosul, the western part of which is fully controlled by the militants of the "Islamic State". The top of the so-called “treasury” of ISIL ordered to form groups that should bypass residential buildings and withdraw all the jewels and decorations belonging to local residents. The statements of the terrorists say that women should donate "worthless things" to "create a caliphate." The volume and value of already seized jewelry is not reported. At the same time, militants in Iraq and Syria consistently receive weapon, ammunition and equipment. For example, within a few days, the ISIL fleet in Mosul alone was replenished with several dozens of new Toyota SUVs. It is unlikely that the same coalition operating in Mosul, unknown way of supplying terrorists IG.

Meanwhile, the terrorists themselves publish photos of the lined tanks Turkish Armed Forces in the area of ​​the city of El Bab (north of the SAR). It is reported that the Turkish offensive with the support of the so-called "Syrian opposition" in the position of ISIS in Al-Sulfaniyeh (east of Al-Bab) has choked. The Ishilovites counterattacked with great forces. They managed to knock out several tanks and military vehicles of the Turkish army.

Tanks of the armed forces of Turkey were stopped by militants of the IG in the area of ​​Al-Bab




The Turkish military command was forced to give the order to temporarily suspend the operation of the “Euphrates Shield”, which Ankara is conducting in the north of Syria. Recall that earlier the position of ISIL in the north of the province of Aleppo was bombed jointly by aircraft of the Turkish Air Force and the Russian Aerospace Force. Apparently, the damage inflicted on the militants was not so serious that they would lose the possibility of resistance.
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  1. Moskovit
    Moskovit 22 January 2017 18: 26
    +3
    Walking spawned, but it was not easy to kill.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 January 2017 18: 43
      +27
      At the same time, militants in Iraq and Syria are steadily receiving weapons, ammunition and equipment.

      I've been thinking all the time: in a treeless desert they cannot track the movement of new technology to help IS. But what would happen if the same forests grew there as in Russia in Russia? Where is the intelligence in the end?
      1. Zibelew
        Zibelew 22 January 2017 18: 52
        +12
        Technology also fails the Turks. ISIS had previously staged a "genocide of German cats" Leopards 2A4, which were not equipped with modernized reactive armor. The Sabras, which the cunning Jews poured into the Turks, burn well. We must also take into account the recent purges in the army as in 37, carried out by Erdogan.
        1. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 22 January 2017 19: 36
          +11
          Yes, it’s not only a matter of technology, just Turkish and Syrian army men are not eager to fight, that is, problems with the fighting spirit, and in this situation any technique is a pile of iron.
        2. Portuguese boat
          Portuguese boat 22 January 2017 19: 51
          +3
          Leopards - 2 were still burning in Afghanistan, although at that time they belonged to the Danish army ...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 23 January 2017 09: 44
            +1
            In Afghanistan, the Leopards suffered no special losses.
            And the Turks removed part of the dynamic defense to save the infantry.
            So they saved the infantry, and the tanks were burnt. hi
            1. Portuguese boat
              Portuguese boat 23 January 2017 09: 46
              0
              Denmark lost about 10 Leopards-2 in Afghanistan
      2. Monos
        Monos 22 January 2017 18: 57
        +6
        And how to track? A jeep rides for itself and rides, but where to whom - who knows? This is not a tank. And the memory stick will be put on it already in place.
        1. Simple
          Simple 23 January 2017 13: 14
          0
          Quote: Monos
          And how to track? A jeep rides for itself and rides, but where to whom - who knows? This is not a tank. And the memory stick will be put on it already



          MLRS Daish:



          Recent photos from Deir ez-Zora market



          In general, they actively hide behind civilians.
      3. vovanpain
        vovanpain 22 January 2017 19: 06
        +10
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Where is the intelligence in the end?

        And American intelligence is fighting a more "terrible" enemy - Russian hackers and does not cooperate with us, but is actively helping the barmale. request
      4. Asadullah
        Asadullah 22 January 2017 20: 59
        +5
        Where is the intelligence in the end?


        On the paths along the course of the hole, a hole is dug, and spiritual intelligence quickly reports for air, mobile communications and RAM. Just a little, they hide in holes. And they act in small groups. Plus there is no desert, villages around, there are enough greenbacks.
      5. bald
        bald 22 January 2017 21: 38
        0
        It seems that they are being taken to the open, undercover (but otherwise), people interested in transactions (it’s clear who they don’t care about anything --- the arms trade is a profitable business --- even bypassing the law.)
      6. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 23 January 2017 10: 51
        +1
        As always, some kind of undercover games ...... if you can read a newspaper from a satellite, drones of all stripes constantly photograph territories, reconnaissance, etc., is it really impossible to track the barmalei in open areas? I doubt it.
    2. kapitan92
      kapitan92 22 January 2017 20: 20
      +4
      Quote: Moskovit
      Walking spawned, but it was not easy to kill.

      And no one is going to kill! The "octopus tentacles" are chopped off, which regenerate in the shortest possible time. A couple of thousand barmaleevs will be "soaked", so they will recruit a couple of thousand recruits, since there is an offer.
      "..... At the same time, the militants in Iraq and Syria consistently receive weapons, ammunition and equipment. Thus, over the course of several days, ISIS's fleet of vehicles in Mosul alone was replenished with several dozen new Toyota SUVs. It is unlikely that the same coalition operating in Mosul knows the ways of supplying IS terrorists "......
      Financing, supplies, supplies, whoever is engaged in this and covers it, is the one who "calls the tune" in this region.
  2. Oldenburg
    Oldenburg 22 January 2017 18: 26
    +3
    Turks! And for whom it’s easy now, there is no need to suspend the operation; bring in fresh forces and go ahead.
  3. Curt
    Curt 22 January 2017 18: 27
    +9
    And how to relate to this news now) Turks are kind of like our allies (like), but on the other hand they need it ... I’ll be rooting for everyone.))
    1. batial
      batial 22 January 2017 20: 12
      +1
      Quote: Curt
      And how to relate to this news now) Turks are kind of like our allies (like), but on the other hand they need it ... I’ll be rooting for everyone.))

      First you rejoice at the failures of your allies, and then you wonder why they treat you "badly". Some kind of sur.
      1. avt
        avt 22 January 2017 20: 15
        +11
        Quote: batial
        First rejoice at the failures of the allies,

        Russia has two faithful allies, its Army and Navy, and we are not happy about their failures.
        1. batial
          batial 22 January 2017 21: 30
          0
          Quote: avt

          Russia has two faithful allies, its Army and Navy.

          Not a lot.
          1. Maz
            Maz 22 January 2017 21: 45
            +6
            And the USA has vassals, slaves and servants.
          2. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 22 January 2017 22: 09
            +1
            But they are loyal and effective ...
          3. avt
            avt 22 January 2017 22: 16
            +3
            Quote: batial
            Not a lot.

            But it’s reliable and enough for us in life
          4. Terner38
            Terner38 22 January 2017 22: 51
            +2
            Quite enough. There were more than enough witnesses in both 45 m and 1812 m.
          5. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 23 January 2017 01: 54
            +3
            Quote: batial
            Quote: avt

            Russia has two faithful allies, its Army and Navy.

            Not a lot.

            Well, what can you do ..? But it is better than Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. wink
      2. vlad66
        vlad66 22 January 2017 20: 57
        +9
        Quote: batial
        First you rejoice at the failures of your allies, and then you wonder why they treat you "badly". Some kind of sur.

        Would you really save something, the Turks are more likely travel companions, not allies. yes You are not traveling companions. wink
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          1. vlad66
            vlad66 22 January 2017 21: 39
            +8
            Quote: batial
            But what about: "Glory to America! Glory to Trump!"?

            Avon how. good Long live Russia! Putin yes! tongue
          2. MMX
            MMX 22 January 2017 21: 54
            +2
            Quote: batial
            Quote: vlad66
            You are not traveling companions. wink

            But what about: "Glory to America! Glory to Trump!"?


            The USA is a vassal state for us. We appointed our president there. There is no question of a union state.
          3. avt
            avt 22 January 2017 22: 20
            +7
            Quote: batial
            But what about: "Glory to America!

            And who is this Slava? And also to Amerike? Well, like, Vanya drove to the Urals, to California, that's what the scattered grandson of Sarah Moiseevna wassat
            Quote: batial
            Glory to Trump! "

            You’ve completely blasted it in your USs fool Such a horror caught up in his pants, that the campaign really decided that Putin assigned it to you ??? bully
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 23 January 2017 17: 03
              +2
              Quote: avt
              And who is this glory? And more Amerike?

              So here he is - on the right, with a yellow-blakporn ensign!

              Omeriga with them! smile
      3. ultra
        ultra 22 January 2017 22: 44
        +3
        Turkey has never been and never will be an ally of Russia. Today it is a temporary travel companion and no more.
      4. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd 22 January 2017 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: batial
        Quote: Curt
        I will be sick against everyone.))

        First you rejoice at the failures of your allies, and then you wonder why they treat you "badly". Some kind of sur.

        And how can we be happy for the Turks?
        We remember our downed plane, everything is mutual.
        They are not friends to us, but allies in the situation. Only vile allies, we do not respect them.
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 22 January 2017 20: 15
      +8
      Quote: Curt
      Turks are kind of like our allies ...

      - why would it?
      - the Turks there solve their own problems ...
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 23 January 2017 00: 45
      0
      Quote: Curt
      And how to relate to this news now) Turks are kind of like our allies (like), but on the other hand they need it ... I’ll be rooting for everyone.))

      Personally, I feel sorry for the faithful Muslims. They have families. Their wives and children are waiting, not "paradise houris". Let aviation work for the good of Iblis - that's okay
  4. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 January 2017 18: 33
    +9
    Saudi Arabia, Qatar to tear down the face of the planet - parasites on the planet. And again - again, in which case, they will ride camels.
    Zhirik also proposed Turkey, (from them only troubles) I remember his program in the 90s. wink
    1. Wiskar
      Wiskar 22 January 2017 18: 47
      +2
      Quote: Barracuda
      Saudi Arabia, Qatar to tear down the face of the planet - parasites on the planet.


      And Iran is there too. He is no better than Saudis and Qatari.
      1. Aviagr
        Aviagr 22 January 2017 19: 09
        +3
        Start at least with your own Government ..
        What, the jerk suddenly became aggravated ?! Well, it’s easier with the STATEMENTS .. hi
      2. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 23 January 2017 01: 28
        0
        Quote: Wiskar
        Iran there too

        who about what, and the Jews about Iran
        1. Wiskar
          Wiskar 23 January 2017 21: 56
          +1
          Quote: Olegovi4
          who about what, and the Jews about Iran


          If Iran sponsored the terror around Russia, as it does around Israel, you would have written the same thing ..
      3. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 23 January 2017 17: 13
        +2
        Quote: Wiskar
        And Iran is there too. He is no better than Saudis and Qatari.

        At the moment it is better: the "regime of mad mullahs" remained in the 90s.
        Alas, the current member of the UN Human Rights Council is much worse than Iran.
        1. Wiskar
          Wiskar 23 January 2017 21: 57
          +1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Better at the moment: the "mad mullah regime" remained in the 90s


          I don’t know how crazy the mullahs were in the 90s, but Iran sponsors the terror around Israel and not only spoils life on the planet no worse than the Saudis and Qatars, which also sponsor terror.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 24 January 2017 11: 12
            +2
            But Iran does not sponsor terror around Russia. Unlike the Saudis and Co.
            1. Wiskar
              Wiskar 24 January 2017 19: 19
              +1
              So far, yes, since Iran benefits from Russia's support in the UN Security Council and in general on many projects, including weapons.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 22 January 2017 20: 06
      +2
      Well drank a liter. Well, two. But why get so drunk.
      1. AUL
        AUL 22 January 2017 21: 09
        +1
        Eco famously Barracuda decides the fate of entire nations! To whom to live, and who to put into consumption. Well, yes, glory to the Creator, a vigorous cow, God does not give horns, and so let the kid sprinkle saliva. Will grow - wiser (maybe).
  5. Aviagr
    Aviagr 22 January 2017 18: 50
    0
    Where are the "shovels"? Their idols are being cast down into the abyss! - Only the rubber Nona will remain - but she only knows how to "open" her mouth .. No.
    Ah-ah! Tanks and mortars - FUFLO! We urgently need to develop "mosquito" weapons !!! And where to get it ?!
    Voice-over: There are terrain in Russian villages! There are leaders who are ready to save the country! hi
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        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 22 January 2017 19: 55
          +7
          Quote: Aviagr
          Creating devices for the Winners will again fall on Aviagrov

          - God save us, from such mercy stop

          Quote: Aviagr
          Well, where without them?

          - for sure. There’s a plug in every barrel, where ... from her? laughing
        2. Smog
          Smog 22 January 2017 20: 03
          +5
          Cats can do much more ... in catching mice

          Why didn’t the cats please you so much? Useful animal. And catches mice. When necessary.
          They even live in the Hermitage. As many as 50 cats. So that underground rodents would not doze and not impudent.
          From the moment of their settlement in the Winter Palace, cats have been continuously fulfilling the task of cleaning the premises from rodents. According to the tradition laid by Elizabeth Petrovna, cats are sterilized. Each cat has its own passport, veterinary card and is officially listed as a qualified specialist in cleaning museum cellars from rats [15] [9].
          .
          In the year of the 250th anniversary of the Hermitage, the museum director Mikhail Piotrovsky announced that he had set a limit of 50 cats, the museum gives the “surplus” to good hands [2] [24]. The ranks are replenished mainly by outbred animals.
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    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 January 2017 19: 39
      +8
      Quote: Aviagr
      There are leaders who are ready to save the country!

      And she doesn't need to be saved - she lives and develops! But some "saviors", it would be better to keep quiet - tired of whining! am
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    3. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 January 2017 17: 17
      +1
      Quote: Aviagr
      Ah-ah! Tanks and mortars - FUFLO! We urgently need to develop "mosquito" weapons !!! Where to get it ?!

      Your mosquito weapon will fall in the same way - if you throw it stupidly in one direction without reconnaissance and cover, hoping to "push through with a mass."
      It's not about technology. It's about the people who use it. If you stand long and hard in an open area or climb into a settlement in a column, then this can not happen.
      Quote: Aviagr
      Voice-over: There are terrain in Russian villages! There are leaders who are ready to save the country!

      Don't be afraid of prison, don't be afraid of scrip
      Do not be afraid of morale and gladness,
      And fear only
      Who will say: "I know how it should be!"
  6. donavi49
    donavi49 22 January 2017 18: 56
    +12
    Why didn’t they add the torn Leo?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 22 January 2017 18: 59
      +11
      Here VLDshku threw.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 22 January 2017 19: 29
        +5
        donavi49 [Quote] Yes, apparently the BC in the building exploded. That is just a beating of some kind. Yes, then the "experts" yelled that the "Leopard" in the forehead of the body does not break through! And at the same time, the militants do not own advanced developments.
        1. Portuguese boat
          Portuguese boat 22 January 2017 19: 57
          0
          And the militants are not fools. Everyone who served in the USSR army and other militarized organizations knows that both Leopard and Abrams, if shot under the second rink, explode into pieces, there is ammunition and it is poorly protected ... This is certainly known to ISIS and the like, and to everyone .. .
        2. ydjin
          ydjin 23 January 2017 02: 07
          +1
          [quote = Observer 2014] donavi49 [Quote] Yes, apparently the BC in the building exploded. That is just a beating of some kind. Yes, then the "experts" yelled that the "Leopard" in the forehead of the body does not break through! At the same time, the militants do not own advanced developments. [/ Quote]
          Probably the bums didn't know that the cat is impenetrable! Propaganda gap from Krauss-Maffei. Urgently explain to the militants that the "Leopard" shaitan-tank am to which it is impossible to approach and God forbid touch it! laughing
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 22 January 2017 19: 00
      +4
      But abandoned, damaged.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 22 January 2017 19: 02
        +3
        Still - this is already at the hospital
        1. Zibelew
          Zibelew 22 January 2017 20: 31
          0
          They fight well on children from ISIS. Total genocide of the vaunted and invulnerable NATO technology. Tigers and panthers were burning, leopards inherited this fate. West, ay, give the Javelins guys am
        2. activator
          activator 22 January 2017 22: 26
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          Why didn’t they add the torn Leo?

          Yes, they wet the authorities .. first was t 72, then, abrams, leo, honestly from leo honestly I didn’t expect such a shame he disgraced his feline ancestors. There remained one merkava 4 in the list of not overthrown. Oh yes, t64 almost completely forgotten a nightmare, molecules these tanks scattered throughout the universe. crying
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 January 2017 20: 46
        +1
        ISIS are bastards, they did not lay asphalt roads for "lepards". After all, they knew that they would come. And here is a lunar landscape. On "leopards" one should not step on, but bury like "tigers" in the tower and sit quietly.
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 22 January 2017 19: 03
      +5
      And 2 Leo at the hospital on the defensive.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2017 19: 11
        +1
        I will dwell on the version that the militants, wrecked tanks in the first two photographs, undermined.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 22 January 2017 20: 18
          +5
          Who would doubt that. You are a Russophobe. These are divine tanks, not like shovels Teshki. For those, yes, without any explanation, it is clear that the towers fly off after breaking through. And here of course - only an undermining.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 22 January 2017 21: 00
            +1
            "Who would doubt it. You are a Russophobe?" - And what is not an agent of the State Department at once? "And then, of course - just undermining." - It is very similar, especially in the first photo, the place of the ammunition storage in the hull is intact - and the hull itself with the turret is clean, in all videos the Leopards 2 from ATGMs only hit the turrets.
            1. Muvka
              Muvka 22 January 2017 21: 05
              +6
              And how should the tower be different if the BC detonated from penetration or from undermining? Should she get dirty? The arguments are undeniable. And how did you determine in the first photo that the place of the ammunition is whole, taking into account that. that the tank is on the other side to the lens?
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 22 January 2017 21: 23
                +1
                "How did you determine in the first photo that the place of ammunition storage is intact, taking into account the fact that the tank is facing the lens with the other side?" - Watch the video below. In Iraq, the militants also blew up tanks, the Abrams,.
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 January 2017 17: 19
      0
      Quote: donavi49
      Why didn’t they add the torn Leo?

      Winter. Burnt German tanks. Only snow is missing. smile
  7. Alexander War
    Alexander War 22 January 2017 18: 58
    +21
    Video of what is happening
    1. A jacket
      A jacket 22 January 2017 19: 26
      +3
      Quote: Alexander War
      Video of what is happening

      Poddubny is resting!
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 22 January 2017 19: 32
      +6
      Quote: Alexander War
      Video of what is happening

      - thank. Distinctly yes
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 22 January 2017 19: 54
        +1
        Do you know what struck me? Usually, such musical accompaniment is superimposed on a video with lined Abrams. If I find right now, then I will show.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 22 January 2017 20: 06
          +1
          IN! Found! Compare. (I mean the fact that they burned amers in Iraq. And then whoever is fighting with whom, celery knows him).
    3. Sauron80
      Sauron80 22 January 2017 19: 34
      +3
      And what kind of technique is at 0:38? After a rocket hit, the doors opened and people ran out!
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 22 January 2017 19: 38
        +1
        http://popgun.ru/files/g/51/orig/17259671.jpg
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 22 January 2017 19: 43
          +1
          So the terror didn’t hit him, or did he withstand a blow in the forehead?
          1. Alexander War
            Alexander War 22 January 2017 19: 45
            +4
            On the forehead, the hood flew the rest into the engine
      2. SSR
        SSR 22 January 2017 20: 33
        0
        Quote: Sauron80
        And what kind of technique is at 0:38? After a rocket hit, the doors opened and people ran out!

        this is where they hit the superstructure of the armored car, get a little lower, no matter who ran out and the blast wave went "backwards" and jumped out of the front seats.
        type "Okshosh" like.
    4. APASUS
      APASUS 22 January 2017 20: 04
      +4
      Quote: Alexander War
      Video of what is happening

      What is interesting in the video is HD quality footage, it’s not badly mounted enough. Someone removes it, mounts it, buys equipment, everything is mounted as in an action movie, the hand of a master is felt.
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 22 January 2017 20: 19
        +3
        Interesting video
    5. Zibelew
      Zibelew 22 January 2017 20: 09
      0
      Quote: Alexander War
      Video of what is happening

      Thanks for the addition as a video.
      Banks the Turk with Al-Bab ...
      But somehow it reminds me of the old:
      - gentlemen, why did not my trump ace play? !!
      - layout, s ...
    6. SSR
      SSR 22 January 2017 20: 27
      +1
      Quote: Alexander War
      Video of what is happening

      I feel that they regularly watched Vesti24 with Yevgeny Poddubny.
  8. izya top
    izya top 22 January 2017 19: 04
    +4
    Meanwhile, the terrorists themselves publish photos of the damaged Turkish armed forces tanks.
    let them say thanks to themselves and their colleagues here, they themselves stuffed the weapons of bearded children
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 22 January 2017 19: 34
      +3
      Above the video - judging by the bribe of the Bassoon, but what flies like a sparkler is Metis (he has a tracer in the steering wheel - so it's easy to identify).
  9. masiya
    masiya 22 January 2017 19: 05
    +4
    So - the monkey gave birth ... and now try to drive this shaitan gang into the coffin ...
  10. Observer2014
    Observer2014 22 January 2017 19: 15
    +9
    Tanks of the armed forces of Turkey were stopped by militants of the IG in the area of ​​Al-Bab
    It will begin now. "The tanks were super", the Turks were poorly trained. So after all, some of us were trying to convince us that the Turkish army is almost the strongest in NATO after the United States and England. And they have reference tanks. And Russian and Soviet bullshit. And what we see in practice. The Turkish army suffers heavy losses. Tanks are burning for a sweet soul. Well, all right, these tanks would have burned down during the assault on cities.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 22 January 2017 19: 19
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      So after all, some of us here sucked in that the Turkish army was almost the strongest in NATO, well, after the United States and England.

      well, so it’s true - do you think that the bearded men would not have burned the rest? However, about the United States and Britons, I’m not sure
      1. Aviagr
        Aviagr 22 January 2017 19: 27
        0
        TACTICS! TACTICS! TACTICS!
        TuporylОсть easily explainbut DIFFICULT TO JUSTIFY!
        The insanity of the existing weapon is IDENTIFICATED VISUALLY, but the "shovels" will continue to promote their "Non" and other junk - and it has no place in modern battles, and even more so - to be a WEAPON OF VICTORY ... hi
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 22 January 2017 19: 43
        +2
        Stirbjorn
        well, so it’s true - do you think that the bearded men would not have burned the rest? However, about the United States and Britons, I’m not sure
        So I’m talking about this. The crawl is naked. At least they themselves understood what they had done.
    2. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 22 January 2017 19: 25
      +4
      Stop stop stop ....
      Now you can say anything you want ... however: Glory to the Almighty that Russia did not start a ground operation with tanks and so on.
      I do not want to say that our tanks are better or worse - just have to consider. that at ground level the losses in manpower and equipment are always higher. And the question is not even the skill of the Turkish military, but, oddly enough, the skill of the bearded and the quality of the weapon that they were given.
      IMHO.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 January 2017 19: 33
        0
        Yeah, it's time to create an active defense for the fighters.
  11. svp67
    svp67 22 January 2017 19: 36
    +4
    Yes, the "turban" of the Sultan of All Turkey is heavy, it can also break his neck ...
  12. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 22 January 2017 19: 37
    +4
    The first week of October 2015, the Russian press is choking with success. The voices of those who are concerned about the lack of any success of the ground forces are drowning in the euphoria of toasts. Someone is already beginning to state the rationale for assigning S. Shoigu the rank of marshal. In the second week, it turns out that the blitzkrieg did not work out. A week later, it turns out that it was not planned (unverified information passed that the blitz-krieg was rejected at the stage of preparation for the operation). A month later (November 5), an interview with the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces Viktor Bondarev was published to Komsomolskaya Pravda:
    Question: "Why was it decided to use first of all the planes and helicopters of our Aerospace Forces in Syria, what was the idea here?"
    Answer: "- What else could be used? Shooting missiles every day? It's very expensive. And after all, ISIS is a highly mobile gangster rabble. They travel by cars, motorcycles, bicycles, donkeys, donkeys. tanks, trucks or armored personnel carriers do not catch up. After each strike, they change positions to avoid casualties. Aviation is another matter. Based on this, a decision was made about our military equipment, which is there. "
    In other words, you don’t catch up on tanks, but on planes you catch up. Why chase tanks and planes? Barrel artillery - why?
    After this interview, it became clear that this was a long time.
    If the enemy is not immediately suppressed, then the enemy adapts. The natural quality of a person, regardless of race or nationality.
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    2. sabakina
      sabakina 22 January 2017 20: 22
      +1
      As for the barrel artillery (including rocket artillery), I agree with you.
  13. sabakina
    sabakina 22 January 2017 19: 41
    +4
    Terrorist statements say that women should sacrifice "worthless things" to "create a caliphate."

    - Do not lock the door! Perhaps today a total mobilization of all wooden things will be announced! Ha! (c) New adventures of Schweik 1943
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 22 January 2017 20: 06
      0
      In the first photo in the article, the terrorists look like the M-60T Sabra modernized the M60 by the Israeli regime for Turkey completely?
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 22 January 2017 20: 07
        +3
        By the way, judging by the video above the tower, two Leopards-2 were lost there.
        № 1
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 22 January 2017 20: 09
          +2
          Leopard 2
          № 2
    2. teder
      teder 22 January 2017 21: 33
      0
      Quote: sabakina
      В terrorist statements say that women should sacrifice "worthless things" to "create a caliphate".

      - Do not lock the door! Perhaps today a total mobilization of all wooden things will be announced! Ha! (c) New adventures of Schweik 1943

      The bulk sacrifices virginity. lol
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 22 January 2017 20: 02
    0
    Erdogan's "cleansing" of the army comes out sideways ...
  15. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 22 January 2017 20: 02
    0
    So the igil and the Turkish army will even take to flight - then you don’t understand who is winning whom!
    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 22 January 2017 20: 16
      0
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      the army will still take to flight

      not the Army - but Tactics!!! All! Cave troops with tanks and mortars LOST the battle with the "rudiments of mosquito" weapons ...
      The morons will be AGAINST, but REALITY is only FOR ... hi
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 22 January 2017 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: Aviagr
        Cave troops with tanks and mortars LOST the battle with the "rudiments of mosquito" weapons ...

        Hu from mosquito weapons?
        1. Aviagr
          Aviagr 22 January 2017 23: 16
          0
          Doo Yu Reed Aticals In May Profile? wassat
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 23 January 2017 13: 04
            0
            Quote: Aviagr
            Doo Yu Reed Aticals In May Profile?

            Read "The Invincible" by Stanislav Lem.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 23 January 2017 17: 25
        +2
        Quote: Aviagr
        not the Army - but Tactics !!! All! Cave troops with tanks and mortars LOST the battle with the "rudiments of mosquito" weapons ...

        Uh-huh ... and we had that. But behind New Year's Grozny were Grozny-1994 and Grozny-2000. The same troops (in 2000 from our side it was even worse - there were already an order of magnitude less Afghan veterans), the same weapons - and the results are diametrically opposite. No "mosquito weapon" helped the Czechs.
        If you neglect tactics, no weapon will help. Give the Turks a "mosquito weapon" - they will stupidly throw it to the slaughter: they will set up ATGMs openly on the dominant heights, and Toyota will trample along the only road. smile
  16. raid14
    raid14 22 January 2017 20: 16
    +2
    A standing tank is a very good target, and the ATGM operators at the barmalei are well trained and they have UAVs judging by the commercials.
    Here, the Turks need to dig up or hide equipment on the roof, air reconnaissance, anti-sniper calculations to deal with PTRK gunners or stationary dazzlers will not hurt.
    1. commbatant
      commbatant 22 January 2017 21: 05
      0
      Quote: raid14
      reconnaissance from the air will not hurt


      why are the "empiricalists" Tuurks do not use army aviation and drones, interestingly, maybe they decided to reduce the army, in which case they could use the older M48 and M60 tanks
      1. 1Markus
        1Markus 22 January 2017 21: 19
        +2
        Quote: commbatant
        why are the "empiricalists" Tuurks do not use army aviation and drones

        Yes, because there is no one to apply, half is sitting and the second was fired with ends "about the wisest" Erdogan.
        1. Maz
          Maz 22 January 2017 22: 08
          +3
          Cho are you lying, exclusive, circumcised and special? http://tvzvezda.ru/schedule/programs/content/2010
          05061644-evt8.htm / - the second minute, together with our planes, Turkish Kherachat barmalei in ElBab. Is Deputy Chief of Staff of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Mr. Sergey Rutskoi Enough? Eight Turkish aircraft and 9 ours, a joint, coordinated operation! Thirty-six targets, a joint memorandum of hostilities, including in the air. You are a miraculous miracle. What, used to, yours can lie in Israel. Sorry, but this is not Tel Aviv for you.
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 23 January 2017 17: 27
            +1
            Quote: Maz
            Eight Turkish aircraft and 9 ours, a joint, coordinated operation!

            This is the scale! The Turkish Air Force was able to allocate even fewer vehicles for the operation than our limited contingent in Syria. smile
  17. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 22 January 2017 20: 28
    0
    Rajeb realized that the United States dragged his country in such a mess that without Russia he would no longer be able to get out of the clutches and mericans supporting the Igilovites as before
  18. Alexander War
    Alexander War 22 January 2017 20: 33
    +4
    Syrian military arrests of terrorists carrying weapons to Damascus
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 22 January 2017 21: 09
      0
      Quote: Alexander War
      Syrian military arrests of terrorists carrying weapons to Damascus

      Yes, long after the end of the war, the Syrians will have to clean up this "mess" - where is their enemy and where is.
  19. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 22 January 2017 21: 17
    +1
    1. Okay. Turkish tanks burned, so what? Maybe "if the tanks are on fire, then someone needs it." By twisted logic, Turkey needs it. Having paid with burnt tanks, she will abandon active hostilities and continue her underground business with ISIS. It should not be forgotten that on the territory of Turkey Tens of thousands of ISIS members who sympathize with them will probably amount to hundreds of thousands. No matter how great Erdogan may be in 5 seconds, he will not rebuild at will and will not rebuild himself.
    2. Invincible bearded men do not give up. And if you shut off oxygen (arms supplies, power supplies and in general supply, as well as replenishment)? Payment from the Saudis is forever, but the supply channels are mainly Turkey and the United States. We will wait for changes in politics. Then the Leapards, and the Abrams, and the carriages will return home.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2017 21: 28
      0
      "Then both the Leapards, and the Abrams, and the teshki will return home" - This war will go on for another year, it will grind everyone - the militants have a lot of ATGMs.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 January 2017 22: 18
        0
        What are we talking about! Supplies. Without cartridges and allah akbar will not help.
      2. commbatant
        commbatant 23 January 2017 22: 35
        0
        This war will go on for more than a year, it will grind everyone - the ATGMs of the militants are still alive.


        so in the bins of our Motherland, not only AK, I wonder how many million tons of B and BT would be put on the Syrian theater, if there was a common border between the Russian Federation and the SAR, a war would last for a hundred years ...
  20. Monarchist
    Monarchist 22 January 2017 21: 48
    +2
    Comrades, Batial, Vlad 66, avt, let me remind you of the situation in WWII: Cherchel does not hide that he does not lead the Bolsheviks, Stalin perfectly remembered everything that the English did in the civilian and then, but fate would have liked to put them together against Nazism. Stalin did not gloat when the British were defeated and rejoiced at the success of the Allies. To enter was also experiencing our difficulties.
    If fate wants to "put us in the same boat," then you will inevitably be together. This baboon was sitting on a branch and solving their problems, while the Sultan and Volodya need to "row together"
  21. Holoy
    Holoy 22 January 2017 21: 54
    0
    Give some time ... Turkey needs experience ...
  22. Monarchist
    Monarchist 22 January 2017 21: 58
    0
    Quote: Aviagr
    Reply

    Foreman! Explain what kind of weapon do you need and what did Nona do? It seems we are talking about the Lopards
    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 22 January 2017 23: 14
      0
      We are talking about WEAPONS - Leo is only Part of it.
      It all comes down to the fact that EXISTING trash can not even be defeated by the BARMALISS - then NAPURKUA spend money on METAL SCRIPT?!
      There is a more winning Tactic and Weapon that implements it - read the articles in my Profile .. hi
  23. Berkut24
    Berkut24 22 January 2017 22: 30
    +1
    NATO is fading. No one can now say how effective the organization is. But recently Russia was called a paper tiger. The office is won not by the country of failed communism, but by the mediocre greedy officials, the snickering and degrading population and the presumptuous defense industry.
  24. nesvobodnye
    nesvobodnye 22 January 2017 23: 07
    0
    Well prepared for them, if the army suffered losses that forced them to stop the attack. Or is it such a * powerful * army among the Turks?
  25. protoss
    protoss 22 January 2017 23: 36
    0
    igil issued pictures of the tank and cobra lost by the Turks in December.
    information war however
  26. viktor.
    viktor. 23 January 2017 00: 59
    0
    in Russia you need to buy tanks, simple and very reliable. good
  27. 72jora72
    72jora72 23 January 2017 01: 08
    +1
    Quote: batial
    Quote: Curt
    And how to relate to this news now) Turks are kind of like our allies (like), but on the other hand they need it ... I’ll be rooting for everyone.))

    First you rejoice at the failures of your allies, and then you wonder why they treat you "badly". Some kind of sur.

    Yes to us, it’s completely on the drum who and how it relates to us ............. or not.
  28. Wolka
    Wolka 23 January 2017 06: 52
    +1
    in war as in war, it’s not enough to have tanks;
  29. Erg
    Erg 23 January 2017 09: 32
    +1
    The amusing "war" continues to amuse. It was the Red Army and the Wehrmacht that depended on supplies, air support, artillery and heavy equipment. ISIS members do not need all this "nonsense" ... They beat any armies with a "light movement of the hand." wassat
    1. Glory1974
      Glory1974 23 January 2017 10: 52
      0
      It was the Red Army and the Wehrmacht that depended on supplies, air support, artillery and heavy equipment. ISIS do not need all this "nonsense"


      Just the opposite. We see that ISIS organized uninterrupted supplies of fighters, military equipment and supplies. Otherwise, they would have been defeated long ago, like other terrorist groups.
      1. Erg
        Erg 23 January 2017 21: 49
        0
        Where are the fighters from? Through whose boundaries? Too shy to ask. Maybe from Mars? And they shoot with what? What do they eat? Food and ammunition are not fighters - "donkeys" are needed. Stop using stupidity. negative
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 24 January 2017 11: 23
          +1
          Where are the fighters from? Through whose boundaries? Too shy to ask. Maybe from Mars? And they shoot with what? What do they eat? Food and ammunition are not fighters - "donkeys" are needed. Stop using stupidity.


          Honestly, I didn’t understand anything from your comment. Explain if not difficult.
  30. Oleg Olegov
    Oleg Olegov 26 January 2017 06: 25
    0
    Topic number 3. WHY ISHAKI FROM CIS CIS TABOOMS TURNING IN ISIS?
    https://justpaste.it/10p6d

    Topic No. 4. HYPER TERRORISM: KGB IN GREEN BANDAGE or WILD DIVISION OF EBN-GDP
    https://justpaste.it/10p7m

    Theme number 5. ALTERNATIVE VERSION: OSSETIN STALIN WAS A BREAKDOWN AND KAGAL SLAVE.
    https://justpaste.it/10q26

    Theme № 6. PRO-ZIONIST BAND-MODE OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION ROOF EURO-FASCISM
    https://justpaste.it/10org