Japan has convinced itself that it is the main victim in the war in the East, but it cannot convince the world about it.

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Last Friday, the Japanese authorities recalled their ambassador from the Republic of Korea and the Consul General from the South Korean city of Busan. This was at a specially convened press conference in Tokyo, said the Secretary General of the Cabinet of Ministers of the country Yoshihide Suga. The reason for the diplomatic demarche was the installation in front of the Consulate General of Japan in Busan, a monument to "women for consolation". So called Korean women who during the Second World War were forcibly forced to work in the brothels of the Japanese army.

Japan has convinced itself that it is the main victim in the war in the East, but it cannot convince the world about it.




Tokyo disowns the military past

The monument to sex slaves was installed on December 28 in Busan by activists of public organizations and students. This was done without coordination with local authorities. Because the statue did not stand the day. In a matter of hours, it was removed. The initiators of the installation of the sad monument did not calm down and in the city administration achieved approval of their actions.

December 30 monument to "women for comfort" returned to the place next to the consulate general of Japan. The next day, in Tokyo, they formally protested the actions of the Koreans, called them "unacceptable" and demanded that the sculpture be removed. It seems that in Seoul they did not understand the meaning of the Japanese protest and left it unattended.

The fact is that the problem of "women for comfort" has long been the focus of relations between the two countries. In 2011, a sculpture similar to the one that appeared in Busan was installed in front of the Japanese embassy in Seoul. At the end of 2015, Japan and Korea agreed to cooperate on sexual slavery during the Second World War.

Japan then acknowledged its “deep responsibility” for the problem of “women for comfort”. Last August, the Japanese government allocated 1 billion yen (about $ 8,5 million at the current exchange rate) to the South Korean Reconciliation and Healing Foundation. This organization helps women who survived to our days - victims of sexual violence during the Japanese occupation.

Japan’s recognition of responsibility for these actions seemed to alleviate the problem. After all, it affected the interests of thousands of families. (According to the official data of the Korean authorities, during the war, Japanese soldiers were forced to “comfort” about 200 thousands of women from Korea, China, Taiwan, the Philippines and Indonesia.) However, the current demarche of Tokyo a week after the installation of a monument in Korea’s second largest port, Busan clearly showed that the Japanese did not repent of their war crimes, and the recognition of 2015 of the year is nothing more than a diplomatic gesture.

A gesture largely forced. By that time, relations between Japan and Korea were very bad. The positions of the countries divided the military past. The most controversial was the dispute around the islands of Liancourt. This is their English name. The Japanese name is Takeshima, Koreans - Dokdo. The Japanese included the Korean islands in their territory in 1905.

At the beginning of 1946, the High Command of the Occupational Allied Forces (SCAP) ranked Liancourt among the territories over which Japan’s sovereignty should be suspended. The islands again came under Korean control. However, the San Francisco Peace Treaty between Japan and the Allied Powers did not state the status of the islands. They are simply forgotten.

Over time, statements were heard in Tokyo that Takeshima was not among the colonies that Japan had abandoned after the war. They began to insist on sovereignty over the islands. True, there already stood a small Korean garrison of coast guard forces. The legal conflict escalated into a territorial dispute.

In the summer of 2008, the Ministry of Education and Science of Japan approved a commentary on the new methodological guide for teachers. There, for the first time, it was recommended that “students pay attention to the territorial problem between Japan and the Republic of Korea”. The decision of the Japanese Ministry caused a crisis in relations between countries. South Korea recalled its ambassador to Japan and canceled or postponed more 100 joint events - sports, diplomatic consultations, cultural meetings, etc.

Four years later, Tokyo will recall its ambassador in Seoul. This will be the Japanese response to visiting the islands by the then President of the Republic of Korea, Lee Myung-bak. Since then, this diplomacy of ambassadors on suitcases has gone, the next round of which is unfolding these days.

How apologies to the aggressor turned him into a sacrifice

By the way, in that sad memorable training manual for teachers, the Japanese ministry did not forget about Russia. It obliged secondary school teachers to introduce into the students' minds the “illegal occupation” of the islands of the South Kuril chain by the Russian Federation. The claims of Tokyo on the South Kuriles in Japanese schools have been talked about for a long time. The term “illegal occupation” for teachers was prescribed for the first time. So he entrenched himself in school teaching.

Now, after the inconclusive December summit of the heads of Russia and Japan, this theme gets a new sound, and with it the rethinking of the outcome of the Second World War. However, there are no fresh facts to help such a rethinking. In the course - already worn by time arguments.

There are two main ones. First: Russia, despite the existing neutrality pact, violated the treaty, perfidiously attacked Japan and seized its ancestral territories. Clear Japanese are now waiting for an apology and compensation payments for "the illegal use of these native Japanese territories during 70 years." They want compensation "for the torment and forced labor in Siberia," the former Japanese prisoners of war. This is the second, long-standing hack.

Today, the veterans of the Japanese Kwantung Army, which in August 1945-th forced the Red Army to capitulate, united in the All-Japan Association of Forcibly interned. “It is more correct to call us not prisoners, but interned,” the executive chairman of the association Yasuzo Aoki now says. The explanation is simple: “The soldiers of the Kwantung Army laid down weapon not because they were defeated on the battlefield and surrendered to the mercy of the winner, but because they obeyed the orders of their emperor. If so, then they are not prisoners of war, but citizens who were forcibly taken to a foreign country. ” (I quote from REGNUM).

The agency cites the popular interpretation of this "internment", now included in Japanese school textbooks. Admittedly, there are proponents of this crafty theory in the Russian open spaces. They claim that the Kwantung Army capitulated on the orders of Emperor Hirohito, and the Red Army only took advantage of such a successful circumstance.

In this interpretation of events, liberal Russian historians convinced even the first president of the Russian Federation. This was most dramatically manifested during the visit of Boris Yeltsin to Japan in December 1993. “The Russian president did what the Japanese side had long been unsuccessfully seeking from the northern neighbor,” Yeltsin deeply apologized for historical the injustice that the Stalinist regime committed against hundreds of thousands of Japanese prisoners of war who were driven into Siberian camps after the end of World War II ... ”, a quote from the Izvestia newspaper of that time adorns the digest of the Yeltsin Center site today.

Being touched by this shameful fact from the biography of the first Russian president, the Center’s website, however, chided the newspaper for inaccurate coverage of the visit: Izvestia avoided one very important point that was spoken by those who were at that moment close to Yeltsin. The form in which apologies were made — the president bowed his head (a purely Japanese expression of deep sorrow and sincerity of feelings) —wrought a stunning impression on the Japanese. ”

All these political frills expose the Japanese aggressors as victims of war. And behind them is such a bloody trace that the Nazi executioners would envy. What is worth only the capture by the Japanese of the former Chinese capital - Nanking. 13 December 1937 of the year (the day after 56 years before the apology of Boris Yeltsin) the Kwantung Army stormed Nanjing and massacred the civilian population there.

For a month and a half, Japanese soldiers burned and plundered the Chinese capital, unusually committed atrocities, killed people (including children and old people), raped women. In 1948, the International Military Tribunal for the Far East estimated the number of victims of the Nanjing Massacre in 200 000 people. Chinese researchers believe the dead 300 000 people.

The difference in assessments arose because the tribunal relied on crimes committed in Nanking itself in its sentences. Chinese researchers have considered more victims who died from Japanese soldiers in the vicinity of the capital. By the way, despite the obvious facts and the verdict of the tribunal, the Japanese authorities deny the crimes committed in Nanking. Tokyo has been pursuing such a policy since the 70s of the last century.

In the sentences of the International Military Tribunal, the crimes of the Japanese were not limited to Nanking. For example, in February 1942, Japan captured the British colony of Singapore. The occupation authorities immediately began to eliminate the "anti-Japanese elements" of the Chinese community. So the Japanese called those who defended Singapore and the Malay Peninsula from them.

All Chinese men between the ages of eighteen and fifty years passed through the filtering. Caught in the lists of suspicious shot with machine guns. The death toll so far no one can establish. The tribunal stopped at a number in 50 000 shot. Singapore and British authorities insist on 100 000 victims of Japanese war crimes.

In this mournful list you can find civilians killed by Japanese soldiers in Indonesia, the Philippines and the Pacific Islands. In February 1945, the Japanese completely destroyed the five-thousandth population of the Philippine town Kalamba. The city itself was burned. In Manila, soldiers broke into the Red Cross hospital, killed doctors, nurses, sick people — even children. Approximately 100 000 people became victims of massacres in the Philippine capital.

These war crimes are not written in Japanese school books. The official position of Tokyo is to deny all the facts of genocide. Because few people in Japan now remember that after the war, international military tribunals convicted 4400 of Japanese war criminals, 1000 of them were sentenced to death. The ashes of the executed Japanese were buried in the Yasukuni temple, which is revered today as a national shrine.

Who made Japan capitulate

In recent years, a stable opinion has emerged in the public environment that Japan capitulated after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima, which happened on August 9 on August 1945. Exactly on this day, military operations against the Japanese forces of the Red Army began. This was not a perfidious attack, as some unscrupulous historians are now trying to present the events.

The Soviet Union denounced the non-aggression pact with Japan back in April 1945, on the days of preparation for the Berlin offensive operation. Tokyo received comprehensive information about the reasons for the termination of the treaty, after which the Japanese should have no illusions about military prospects. Moscow explained that the Soviet-Japanese neutrality pact of 13 on April 1941 was concluded before Germany attacked the USSR and before the Japanese war with Great Britain and the USA, which became the main allies of the Soviet Union in World War II.

Under the new conditions, the non-aggression pact has lost its original meaning. By the denunciation of the treaty, the USSR forced Japan to end the war. It was 5 April 1945. In the summer of the victorious year, in July, the Allies offered the Japanese a surrender. Tokyo did not accept it.

Emperor Hirohito will announce surrender only at noon on August 15 - a week after the tragedy in Hiroshima. By that time, the Far Eastern fronts of the Red Army would crack the 21 fortified area of ​​the Kwantung Army, take many of its units and formations into the ring, and land on Sakhalin and the Kuriles. There will be a threat of a Soviet invasion of the Japanese islands.

The events in Hiroshima, of course, shocked the world with their inhuman cruelty and strategic unjustification. But they did not stop the Japanese military, and that's why. American planes have long ironed Japan with carpet bombing. Senior researcher at the British American Security Information Council research organization, Ward Wilson, in his article “The Victory Over Japan Was Not Bomb, but Stalin,” published in Foreign Policy magazine, wrote: “In the summer of 1945, American aviation 66 Japanese cities bombed with ordinary bombs, in whole or in part, the devastation was colossal, in some cases comparable to that caused by atomic bombings. March 9-10, 16 square miles burned out in Tokyo, killing about 120 thousand people. Hiroshima is only in 17th place in terms of destruction of the city territory (in percentage terms). "

Russian historian, professor Anatoly Koshkin cites his own figures: “As a result of massive“ carpet bombing ”of Japanese cities, according to various estimates, from 500 to 900 thousands of their inhabitants died, which exceeded the number of victims of atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki”.

Be that as it may, Emperor Hirohito capitulated only a week after the atomic attack on Hiroshima. Two days later, on August 17, Hirohito wrote directly in his rescript “To the Soldiers and Sailors”: “Now that the Soviet Union has entered the war against us, to continue resistance ... means to endanger the very basis of our Empire’s existence”.

The resistance of the Kwantung Army will last until the end of August. It will be especially tense at the front of the 5 of the Japanese army. Over 40 000 Japanese soldiers - 2 / 3 personnel will die here. Survivors will then be taken prisoner and sent to work in Siberia. In Tokyo, these warriors are now counted among the internees as civilians. As if there was no war.

The current demarche of the Japanese to erect a monument to “women for comfort” in Korean Busan shows that Tokyo has already become accustomed to the image of a country affected by the war, which they have painstakingly painted for the past forty years, emphasizing the tragedy of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. But what about the memory of hundreds of thousands of people who died from the soldiers of Emperor Hirohito in China, Korea, and the countries of Southeast Asia? We must not be deceived and forget about who really carried with him pain, blood, death and destruction in the most brutal war of human history ...
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  1. +38
    8 January 2017 06: 20
    the Japanese did not repent of their war crimes


    I totally agree ...
    JAPAN honors its war criminals.

    The Chinese, Koreans have not forgotten and are not going to forget the mass genocide of their peoples, and we should do the same so that the Japanese government does not even decide to make any claims to us.
    The German government has already begun to become impudent in this regard ... they are beginning to teach us how to behave ourselves ... they have survived ... the victorious country in WWII.

    This must always be remembered ...

    1. +36
      8 January 2017 09: 08
      The more economically, and consequently militarily, Russia will weaken, the more claims will be made against us.
      The surrender of sea areas in the Bering Sea of ​​the United States, in the Barents Sea of ​​Norway, of the large islands in the Khabarovsk region to China, leasing for a considerable period of large territories in the Trans-Baikal Territory and in the Far East to the same China - "these are just flowers.
      With such a policy that is now being carried out by the oligarchic authorities, "there will be berries." Unfortunately, a very negative trend is visible.
      1. +2
        8 January 2017 11: 20
        Quote: vladimirZ
        The more economically, and consequently militarily, Russia will weaken, the more claims will be made against us.
        The surrender of sea areas in the Bering Sea of ​​the United States, in the Barents Sea of ​​Norway, of the large islands in the Khabarovsk region to China, leasing for a considerable period of large territories in the Trans-Baikal Territory and in the Far East to the same China - "these are just flowers.
        With such a policy that is now being carried out by the oligarchic authorities, "there will be berries." Unfortunately, a very negative trend is visible.


        Yeah, delicious Crimean berries, which by the way ripened precisely thanks to the policy of the current "oligarchic" government, it is clear that not all of it is "oligarchic" - again cowardice and alarmism ...
        1. +19
          8 January 2017 11: 38
          Yeah, delicious Crimean berries, which by the way ripened precisely thanks to - 11 black

          Thank you for the "Crimean berries". Unfortunately, it is not they who determine the tendency of Russian foreign policy.
          "Crimea" is a limit beyond which it was impossible to retreat, otherwise, it would be an obvious open betrayal of the Russian people and Russia, after which the loss of the Black Sea Fleet base, and the entire large fleet on the Black Sea, with unpredictable consequences for everything our state in the coming years.
          And the transferred sea areas, islands near Khabarovsk, leased for 49 years, this is a slow surrender to Russia for some incomprehensible "gingerbread" for someone.
          Is it really incomprehensible?
          1. +2
            9 January 2017 08: 15
            There is no limit. Would merge the Crimea, no one would pick. Yeltsin was ready to give the Kuril Islands, and also no one would have pickled. Also, here it’s definitely not the point.
            Why give the land to the Chinese? Yes, everything is simple, its population is not there, and that's it. Blaming Putin or Medvedev or even Chubais in this is somehow strange.
            1. +8
              9 January 2017 08: 34
              everything is simple, its population is not there, that's it. Blaming Putin or Medvedev or even Chubais personally is somehow strange. - gaura

              You probably do not know, but our Russian people live there, and their number is incomparable with the density of residence in Moscow, but we are so used to living in the vastness of Siberia and the Far East. This is our land.
              And then who is guilty of transferring this land, if not the power of Putin and Medvedev? A people living there and not wanting to see foreign, alien people on their land robbing OUR LAND?
              If you write, then write in your right mind, and not in the servile fervor of those in power.
              1. +1
                11 January 2017 23: 10
                Quote: vladimirZ
                You probably do not know, but our Russian people live there, and their number is incomparable with the density of residence in Moscow, but we are so used to living in the vastness of Siberia and the Far East. This is our land.

                Russian people do not give birth to children, so they are replaced by others - those who give birth and Putin have nothing to do with it.
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      2. +16
        8 January 2017 11: 25
        forgot about the Urals - the Chinese in our Svrdl. Alb. under greenhouse vegetables a heap of land ruined, and it is unlikely that this land will be restored
        and that the most filthy - no one, including pravoohr.ne can not cope with them .... more precisely, can- but they are not given ....
        so the "berries" are already in full swing ...
        and it’s still unknown what will happen in the Kuril Islands ...
        on TV, everything is beautiful, the victory is ours ...
        but in practice, this is how bureaucrats agree, you are right
        1. +2
          8 January 2017 11: 54
          Here, for example, Dorenko, about this lease of land to China. Dorenko can be treated differently, but he is right about the long-term lease of land to China.
      3. +1
        11 January 2017 23: 08
        Quote: vladimirZ
        large islands in the Khabarovsk region of China

        What "big islands" are we talking about? Have you read the agreement between the USSR and China?
    2. 0
      8 January 2017 15: 54
      Funny faces want to recognize the Japanese Holocaust.
    3. 0
      9 January 2017 02: 43
      It is believed that up to 50 million Chinese were killed in World War II.
    4. 0
      9 January 2017 02: 44
      It is believed that up to 50 million Chinese were killed in World War II.
    5. 0
      9 January 2017 02: 44
      It is believed that up to 50 million Chinese were killed in World War II.
    6. 0
      11 January 2017 14: 23
      they don’t want to take an example from the Russian Federation, starting from Gorbachev’s repentance and ending with Putin who branded the Stalin regime
      Quote: The same Lech
      the Japanese did not repent of their war crimes


      I totally agree ...
      JAPAN honors its war criminals.

      The Chinese, Koreans have not forgotten and are not going to forget the mass genocide of their peoples, and we should do the same so that the Japanese government does not even decide to make any claims to us.
      The German government has already begun to become impudent in this regard ... they are beginning to teach us how to behave ourselves ... they have survived ... the victorious country in WWII.

      This must always be remembered ...

  2. +1
    8 January 2017 06: 36
    Is not the East affected by the actions of the Japanese military?
  3. +1
    8 January 2017 06: 48
    The Japanese repent ... when the Yankees repent.
    1. 0
      8 January 2017 11: 55
      The modern generation of Yaps will not repent. do not know why. "myhataskrayu" "myyatyou don't understand"
  4. +10
    8 January 2017 06: 50
    Ah, these kind, smiling Japanese people, with a smile will cut your throat, you should turn your back.
    1. 0
      11 January 2017 14: 21
      There would be no example for the Russians to take and confess and repent of all sins, as the example of Gorbachev showed. Yeltsin, Medvedev and Putin, blaming the tyrant Stalin for everything
      Quote: EvgNik
      Ah, these kind, smiling Japanese people, with a smile will cut your throat, you should turn your back.
      1. +1
        11 January 2017 14: 34
        Quote: ivanov17
        as an example showed

        The fact that they showed an example is not a reason for me to run and repent, on the contrary, my back does not bend, although it sounds pathetic, but tortured sciatica. Yes, since serving in the army, I’m used to walking with my shoulders straight and not bending over. What do you have against?
      2. 0
        11 January 2017 23: 12
        Quote: ivanov17
        blaming the tyrant for Stalin

        Only a tyrant can make work like in ....
  5. +4
    8 January 2017 07: 04
    [quoteMatured Japanese now await apologies and compensation for "illegal use of these original Japanese territories for 70 years." Former Japanese prisoners of war want compensation "for torment and forced labor in Siberia.] [/ Quote]


    But naku bite ka.
  6. +8
    8 January 2017 07: 19
    - Yeltsin deeply apologized for the historical injustice that was created by the Stalinist regime against hundreds of thousands of Japanese prisoners of war


    This done Boria, and now we are not raking.
    1. +5
      9 January 2017 07: 46
      YES, it’s incomprehensible to the mind - this Eltsin not only killed and robbed millions of fellow citizens - but also abused the memory of his ancestors

      Injustice was not on the part of the USSR — but on the part of these hundreds of thousands of samurai — who did not sit at home and had to occupy someone else’s territory and attack and kill and rob - under Khubilai Khan, they would have been chopped altogether - say thank you - that Eurasia was transformed from the steppe empire in USSR
      1. +5
        9 January 2017 09: 04
        Judging by the Mannerheim board, the monument to Krasnov, Talgat, you are not far from the truth, Yeltsin is still alive!
  7. +7
    8 January 2017 07: 22
    We must be friends with the Japanese, as with our neighbors in the earth-ball dormitory ... There are a million points of contact with them, starting from the land and ending with the solid waste processing plants. We need to negotiate with them and offer options that will suit us. For example, let Japan remove US military bases from its territory ... belay These are exactly the people who are ready to do something in the name of something, and not wait for profits from transit pipes, like certain former comrades. The economy makes foreign policy. And when she "sleeps" and convinces us that in "private hands" the tit is thicker, conducting privatization auctions, you can blame everything on ... lol Japanese ... The sun rises first ... belay
  8. +3
    8 January 2017 08: 34
    It is a pity that the wild behavior of the Japanese attributed to the * mentality *. From the very beginning, the Japanese were grown precisely as warriors who would capture colonies for true masters - the Anglo-Saxons. Then stories about samurai, codes of honor and about the emperor were launched, since it was he who leased the Japanese to the * true * masters. The savages living on the Japanese islands became * interesting * when they were recruited instead of the blacks of Africa, and it was closer to transport, they multiplied quickly and of course by the fact that they were ready for any * act *, however, like today.
    1. +2
      9 January 2017 08: 38
      Consequently, nature correctly ordered that it divert the islands for the Japanese, thereby limiting their spread to the mainland? So, it is necessary to support THIS, as nature reserves and national parks - a strictly allocated territory, living according to strictly prescribed rules, different from the surrounding territories (land, water, sky)? There's something about it...
    2. +1
      9 January 2017 08: 39
      Consequently, nature correctly ordered that it divert the islands for the Japanese, thereby limiting their spread to the mainland? So, it is necessary to support THIS, as nature reserves and national parks - a strictly allocated territory, living according to strictly prescribed rules, different from the surrounding territories (land, water, sky)? There's something about it...
  9. +2
    8 January 2017 09: 08
    In the American military (by American standards - anti-war) TV series "Devil's Service in the MES Hospital" one of the local boasts that he fought against the Russians in the RYA. In my understanding, this is collaboration, betrayal, and he boasts about it.
    What was Korea during the REV? It seems to be a colony.
    1. +2
      8 January 2017 12: 04
      It was a colony of Japan, so a resident of the colony could well have fought in the army of the metropolis.
    2. 0
      10 January 2017 10: 20
      Quote: igordok
      In my understanding, this is collaboration, betrayal, and he boasts of it.
      What was Korea during the REV? It seems to be a colony.

      Not so simple. The Koreans served Japan in the war, and not only in the construction battalions, but also in combat units, right up to the units of special attacks. And after the war they quickly spread to affected by Japanese aggression.
      1. 0
        10 January 2017 10: 38
        In Korea, it was like in France in WWII. There, too, some fought for Hitler, others fought against Hitler, and the majority - for whom they ordered, or did not intervene at all.
        1. 0
          10 January 2017 13: 29
          Well, about the French kamikaze (for example, the pilots of the "Neger") somehow was not heard. smile
          1. 0
            10 January 2017 22: 49
            Duc, and there were not many German kamikazes. Europa Well, the mentality is different.
  10. +4
    8 January 2017 09: 19
    No matter what they do, about the Kuril Islands, and they will do everything possible, at any opportunity — not even giving them any reason to think about transferring the islands. This is their cross. And the fact that there are US bases, and so what, repaying them is not long. At least we know where and what is on it, and you can track the transit countries.
  11. Ham
    +7
    8 January 2017 09: 23
    ordinary rewriting of history ... we unfortunately, the collapse of the Union ourselves launched this process ...
  12. +4
    8 January 2017 10: 09
    For Koreans, anti-Japanese sentiment is a state official policy. And the problem is that the Koreans did not have any special problems with the Japanese. The biggest problem was the actual annexation as a province and the gradual assimilation. But the Japanese did not commit any atrocities (as against the Chinese) against the inhabitants of their own country. Moreover, many Koreans accepted the idea of ​​a great Japan, there were even Korean kamikaze. But now it is a state taboo. That is why "women for pleasure" are raised on the shield (with whom everything is also not so simple) and precisely in the context of "raped Korea".
    1. +10
      8 January 2017 11: 31
      Quote: clidon
      Koreans had no particular problems with the Japanese

      And you try to tell this to the Koreans! Tell them about the Kanto massacre of 1923 during the earthquake. Or can you tell us about the 30 severed heads of Koreans that A Stepanov mentions in the Port Arthur novel? If an unknowing person speaks, then this may pass for stupidity, but if one who knows hides the facts, then this is either a provocation or meanness.
      1. +1
        8 January 2017 18: 04
        Port Arthur is a long-standing business and it is certainly not clear how true the numbers are. The Kanto massacre was related to immigrants and the psychosis of the local population and the police (after all, the Japanese were mistakenly cut there).
        But in general, the attitude towards the Koreans and the behavior of the invaders on the territory was not somehow fanatic. There were persecutions of local resistance, but joining Japan did not cause any particular horrors. Here, China is another matter; there, in fact, the attitude was like strangers. But the humor is that in Korea, the attitude towards the Japanese is worse than in China. And in Taiwan, which was the longest under Mikado, the attitude is almost calm. So here it is not a matter of popular memory, but of pure politics.
  13. +4
    8 January 2017 10: 17
    Still on the weather map, japas draw our islands with
    1. +3
      8 January 2017 12: 05
      They draw on their own maps of the Kuril Islands. After a trip to Japan, I still have a tourist map of the country; there, too, the Kuril Islands appear as Japanese territory.
      1. +8
        8 January 2017 14: 42
        Cards, and on the TV box, this is how they have been brainwashing every day for the entire population for decades. Well, they can’t understand that our Kuril Islands are the result of the war. A new start is worthless. So they hope for the next EBNa or Corn Khrushchev in our guide.
        1. +1
          8 January 2017 16: 06
          Quote: Aviator_
          Corn flakes

          "Corn Khrushch" freed you and your recent ancestors from slavery. In the truest sense of the word, from slavery, enshrined in law.
          What kind of black ingratitude?
          1. +11
            8 January 2017 18: 02
            "Corn Khrushch" freed you and your recent ancestors from slavery. In the truest sense of the word, from slavery, enshrined in law.

            Very interesting, and most importantly - informative. A reference, pzhalsta, to the law / laws declaring me and my ancestors as slaves, which Khrushchev canceled. I would like to read, to be touched, to repent ... wassat
            1. 0
              8 January 2017 19: 10
              I'm sorry if something's wrong
            2. +1
              9 January 2017 10: 53
              Quote: kit_bellew
              A reference, pzhalsta, to the law / laws declaring me and my ancestors as slaves, which Khrushchev canceled.

              No problem.
              Decree of the PVS of the USSR dated 26.06.40/4252/XNUMX on the restoration of serfdom http://www.libussr.ru/doc_ussr/ussr_XNUMX.htm
              Decree of the PVS of the USSR dated 26.12.41 on toughening the criminal prosecution of runaway slaves http://www.libussr.ru/doc_ussr/ussr_4336.htm
              Decree of the PVS of the USSR dated 26.04.56/5077/XNUMX. on the abolition of serfdom http://www.libussr.ru/doc_ussr/ussr_XNUMX.htm
              Quote: kit_bellew
              I would like to read, to be touched, to repent ..

              Read
              Be touched
              Repent
              In general, the history of their homeland should be known. You have a Russian badge, but you don’t know the story. Not good ...
              1. +7
                9 January 2017 11: 31
                Well, you, my friend, and gave the bar ...

                Quote: Decree of 26.06.40/XNUMX/XNUMX
                On the transition to an eight-hour working day, to a seven-day working week and the prohibition of unauthorized care workers and employees from enterprises and institutions.


                Quote: Decree of December 26, 1941
                On the responsibility of workers and employees military enterprises for unauthorized departure from enterprises


                Something like this ... request

                - there is no "serfdom" anywhere near there, read accusative.
                - "transition to a military track" - yes, there is a place ... and the time was appropriate, was not it?

                Quote: JS20
                Not good...

                - to lie not well, dear
                1. +2
                  9 January 2017 18: 30
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Quote: Decree of 26.06.40/XNUMX/XNUMX
                  On the transition to an eight-hour working day, on a seven-day working week and on the prohibition of unauthorized withdrawal of workers and employees from enterprises and institutions.

                  It is not good to juggle. There is only the first half on the topic you have indicated. But the second is just about what I wrote. On the restoration of slavery in the USSR. Escape from the owner (from the enterprise) was punishable by prison (2-4 months), negligence of work for the owner (delay), corrective labor (up to 6 months with 25% of earnings withheld).
                  Slavery in its purest form.
                  Or did you expect to receive a decree entitled "On the restoration of slavery in the USSR"?
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  On the responsibility of workers and employees of enterprises of the military industry for unauthorized departure from enterprises

                  And why people cannot, at their will, leave the enterprise (from the owner) somewhere? Why can they be imprisoned for this from 5 to 8 years? The landowners of the runaway serfs were punished much softer, they would just tear them with their bats and tear their nostrils.
                  Yes, and the "labor impulse of the home front workers" now somehow raises doubts. Why did you need the 1941 Decree, if it really was? Or was it really not there? And the "labor impulse" was organized by tightening the Criminal Code?
                  Do you even understand what FREEDOM is? I got a strong feeling that no. You read these Bolshevik Decrees and were not even horrified! Moreover, they tried to come up with an excuse for them!
                  Lord, what should one be?
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  - there is no "serfdom" anywhere near, read the blame.

                  Yeah. You would still like a decree with the title "On the restoration of slavery in the USSR." I don’t even know if you’re naive or how.
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  "transition to a war footing" - yes, there is a place to be ... and the time was appropriate, right?

                  And what's the difference when, where and what time was? Who cares why the slavery regime in the USSR in 1941. was tightened? It is important that he was. It is quite official, from 1940 until 1956.
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  - lying is not good, dear

                  Exactly. It concerns you to the fullest extent.
                  1. +6
                    9 January 2017 21: 23
                    So laughing

                    Quote: JS20
                    Escape from the owner (from the enterprise) was punishable by prison (2-4 months), negligence of work for the owner (delay), correctional labor (up to 6 months with 25% of earnings withheld)

                    - in the pre-war time, with, say, an overabundance of qualified personnel - a completely reasonable measure, no?

                    Quote: JS20
                    Yes, and the "labor impulse of the home front workers" now somehow raises doubts. Why did you need the 1941 Decree, if it really was?

                    - and the impulse was
                    - and the people who were looking for warmer places were also
                    - here for the second category there were these decrees

                    Quote: JS20
                    Do you even understand what FREEDOM is?

                    - freedom is a conscious need (s)
                    - for the "unconscious" the corresponding Decrees were issued
                    - by the way, to be free, you must obey the laws (c) wink

                    Quote: JS20
                    And what's the difference when, where and what time was? Who cares why the slavery regime in the USSR in 1941. was tightened?

                    - Labor discipline was tightened, if you like. At defense industry enterprises, as is now customary to say
                    - the term "slavery" you pulled here by the ears. And you keep on pulling, with a tenacity worthy of a better use Yes
                    - that's exactly what I said: "It's not good to lie." I have to repeat, because it clearly did not come from the first time request

                    Something like that.
                    1. +2
                      9 January 2017 23: 31
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      in the pre-war time, with, say, an overabundance of qualified personnel - a fully justified measure, no?

                      There are no "high reasons" for which people should and should be turned into slavery.
                      However, I was distracted. That people in the USSR since 1940. to 1956 actually lived under the slave system, do you understand the hope?
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      here for the second category there were these decrees

                      A person has the right to be free. This is his birthright. If gentlemen, the Bolsheviks decided to use slave labor (and they used it, I recall, for 16 years, until the Khrushchev revolution in 1956), from this they turned into ordinary ordinary despicable slave owners.
                      If you decided to justify these villains, then you deserve about the same attitude as yourself.
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      for the "unconscious" the corresponding Decrees were issued

                      Born as a slave (mentally) cannot be free. And if he also does not want to ...
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      labor discipline was tightened, if you like. At defense industry enterprises, as is now customary to say

                      The term "labor discipline" is appropriate in conjunction with the concept of "dismissal". Not a "conclusion". Don't juggle.
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      the term "slavery" you pulled here by the ears.

                      Not at all. In 1940 society in the USSR as a result of a reactionary coup (event opposite to revolution) December 1936 degraded from feudal to slaveholding. Which was officially fixed by the Decree of the PVS of the USSR dated 26.06.40/XNUMX/XNUMX. Everything is simple, clear and understandable.
                      The slave system in the USSR lasted until the feudal revolution of Khrushchev, and was officially canceled on 25.04.56.
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      that's what I said: "It's not good to lie." I have to repeat, because it clearly did not come from the first time

                      You have a problem, you want to spoil it somehow, but you have no arguments. No arguing against the facts. So turn around, like in a frying pan. Smart people are silent in such cases.
                      1. +4
                        10 January 2017 05: 22
                        Stupidity write, JS20!
                        The slave system under capitalism, where slavery is framed in a new form of human exploitation.
                        In the USSR there was no slave system. In the USSR, where the aggregate social product, in the form of free health care, education, housing, and other social benefits, was divided into all members of society, labor was not only a constitutional right, which is not in capitalist states, but also a duty of able-bodied people.
                        Therefore, there was a law on the fight against parasitism, people who do not want to work for the common good, but receive this benefit in the form of social benefits. This is not slavery, this is a demand for reimbursement of the benefits and labor re-education of a person. It is in peacetime.
                        In the war and pre-war years, another period begins, when the time comes for a constitutional obligation (in any state) to protect the homeland and the state from foreign invaders, during this period a able-bodied person must and must be either in the Army or work, providing those fighting with weapons, ammunition, food . Food, including those who are in the rear.
                        This duty to work on the military was preserved during the post-war period, when it was necessary to rebuild thousands of cities and villages, factories and factories destroyed by the invaders, to create a nuclear missile shield from new armed atoms.
                        So that your arguments are stupidity and lies, "sucked from the finger."
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                      3. +1
                        10 January 2017 23: 15
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        Stupidity write, JS20!

                        I have no such habit.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        The slave system under capitalism, where slavery is framed in a new form of human exploitation.

                        The slave system is not under capitalism, but under the slave system. Learn at least the basics of political economy.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        In the USSR there was no slave system.

                        Really? And as the state system of the USSR was called from 26.06.41/25.04.56/XNUMX. on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX? It was quite official in the USSR that there was a slave system of government. Legislatively designed.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        in the form of free health care, education, housing, other social benefits

                        Free cheese only comes in a mousetrap. This is not a "figure of speech", this is the truth of life. Try to understand and remember this somehow.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        divided into all members of society

                        Shared. But very much uneven.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        labor was not only constitutional law, which is not in the capitalist states, but also the duty of able-bodied people.

                        Yes, forced labor, it was a trick of "socialism". The only trouble is that captive labor is NEVER productive. And ALWAYS loses to free (capitalist) labor. That is why the USSR went bankrupt. Yum-yum has nothing.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        This is not slavery, this is a demand for reimbursement of the benefits and labor re-education of a person.

                        Do not confuse feudal coercion (to work for the feudal lord somewhere, at your discretion) with coercion of a slaveholding society (to work only with a specific clerk). Namely, these were the coercions from 26.06.41/25.04.56/XNUMX. on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        In the war and pre-war years, another period begins, when the time comes for a constitutional obligation (in any state) to protect the homeland and the state from foreign invaders, during this period a able-bodied person must and must be either in the Army or work, providing those fighting with weapons, ammunition, food .

                        What else do you owe to you?
                        Here, in fact, everything is simple, a person does not owe anything to anyone. In addition to military men (and sometimes women). Everything else is simply called lawlessness frightened to hiccups and from this enraged Bolsheviks.
                        WWII to 24.09.41g. they safely passed ... ali. Then they surrendered to the Anglo-Saxons, about which they signed the Act of Surrender (officially called the Atlantic Charter). Well, and only then the Anglo-Saxons used the population of the USSR as they needed it. As cannon fodder, of course. Leaving him, the population, under the general leadership of the Bolsheviks. And this is a colossal crime of the Anglo-Saxons before the peoples of the USSR (leaving them under the rule of the Bolsheviks), I really hope that they will come back to life in the future.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        This duty to work on the military was preserved during the post-war period, when it was necessary to rebuild thousands of cities and villages, factories and factories destroyed by the invaders, to create a nuclear missile shield from new armed atoms.

                        Yes, the inhabitants of the USSR had many responsibilities. Mostly, work for free. But there were absolutely no rights.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        So that your arguments are stupidity and lies, "sucked from the finger."

                        Out of the finger, that's nothing. I'm afraid to even suggest where your "revelations" were sucked from.
                      4. 0
                        11 January 2017 23: 31
                        Quote: JS20
                        That people in the USSR since 1940. to 1956 actually lived under the slave system, do you understand the hope?

                        Do you understand that you are currently a slave living in slavery, in financial slavery at a bank?
                      5. 0
                        11 January 2017 23: 35
                        Quote: JS20
                        degraded from feudal to slaveholding

                        You are confused in terms, humanity is developing from the complete freedom of primitive people to the total dependence of a high-tech society, so it is correct to say "has evolved from feudal to slaveholding."
                        This is a natural process, the more developed the community of people, the more dependent an individual is in it on other people, like that ... SLAVE.
                  2. +4
                    10 January 2017 10: 26
                    Quote: JS20
                    On the restoration of slavery in the USSR. Escape from the owner (from the enterprise) was punishable by prison (2-4 months), negligence of work for the owner (delay), corrective labor (up to 6 months with 25% of earnings withheld).

                    Actually, this decree is about something completely different. It prohibits the current practice of "unilateral" leaving a worker from the enterprise - without a statement of resignation, without a roundabout slip, without an order to dismiss - simply by absenteeism and subsequent automatic dismissal for absenteeism without any consequences. Yesterday there was a worker - and today he is not, he left in English.
                    If for you the signing by the director of a letter of resignation means slavery - well, then all over the world there is now a slave system.
                    1. +2
                      10 January 2017 22: 49
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      It prohibits the current practice of "unilateral" leaving a worker from the enterprise - without a statement of resignation, without a roundabout slip, without an order to dismiss - simply by absenteeism and subsequent automatic dismissal for absenteeism without any consequences. Yesterday there was a worker - and today he is not, he left in English.

                      Enchanting nonsense.
                      You are a great dreamer. The Decree directly says (Clause 3 "Leaving an enterprise and institution or moving from one enterprise to another and from one institution to another can only be authorized by the director of the enterprise or the head of the institution."). Those. did not allow the "owner's representative" (the main salesman), and yeah. You will work until you blue in the face.
                      And you can’t quit through truancy either, they’ll put you in prison anyway.
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      If for you the signing by the director of a letter of resignation means slavery - well, then all over the world there is now a slave system.

                      When you read something and somewhere (in particular, Decrees of the USSR PVS), try to understand the meaning of what is written. Helps a lot.
                      1. +2
                        11 January 2017 04: 41
                        It’s lazy, to be honest, to sort your nonsense into components, well, oh well:

                        Quote: JS20
                        did not allow the "representative of the owner" (chief clerk), and yeah. You will work until you blue in the face

                        - So what? And with your favorite capitalism, is everything different?

                        Quote: JS20
                        And you can’t quit through truancy either, they’ll put you in prison anyway.

                        - I repeat - in conditions of (pre) wartime - a completely justified measure.

                        Quote: JS20
                        When you read something and somewhere (in particular, Decrees of the USSR PVS), try to understand the meaning of what is written. Helps a lot

                        Quote: Krylov

                        ... than to consider the gossips, to work,
                        It’s not better to turn on yourself, godfather ...


                        That's about as Yes
                      2. +1
                        11 January 2017 10: 02
                        Quote: JS20
                        You are a great dreamer. The Decree directly says (Clause 3 "Leaving an enterprise and institution or moving from one enterprise to another and from one institution to another can only be authorized by the director of the enterprise or the head of the institution.").

                        And here it is not necessary to snatch sentences out of context. Because the same decree says:
                        To ban unauthorized departure of workers and employees from state, cooperative and public enterprises and institutions, as well as an unauthorized transition from one enterprise to another or from one institution to another.

                        To establish that workers and employees who voluntarily resigned from state, cooperative and public enterprises or institutions are brought to trial and, upon the sentence of a people's court, are imprisoned for a term of 2 months to 4 months.
                        To establish that for absenteeism without good reason, workers and employees of state, cooperative and public enterprises and institutions are prosecuted and, upon the verdict of the people's court, are punished with correctional labor at the place of work for up to 6 months withheld from wages up to 25%.
                        In this regard, cancel compulsory dismissal for absenteeism without good reason.

                        It was precisely against this practice of transitions that this Decree was directed: when the worker explicitly left for a new place, automatically leaving the old one for absenteeism, and without any sanctions. This phenomenon, in relation to the aviation industry, was described by the same Mukhin (who is a historian, not a propagandist).
                        In your current free time, try to just take - and leave from one job to another. No applications, no "two weeks" - just one day to stop going to your old job. Preferably, during the execution of a large contract. smile
                      3. +1
                        11 January 2017 17: 33
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        So what? And with your favorite capitalism, is everything different?

                        For some reason, are you sure that under capitalism a person will not be able to quit his job at will? Why?
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        - I repeat - in conditions of (pre) wartime - a completely justified measure.

                        It’s up to the star in what conditions. This is just an awkward excuse.
                        Have slave-owning TVET been introduced? There were. And why and why is not interesting anymore. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
                        And there were no good intentions, because they were canceled in 1956. What was the "pre-war time" then?
                      4. +1
                        11 January 2017 17: 37
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        And here it is not necessary to snatch sentences out of context. Because the same decree says:

                        So read what is written in the Decree. And do not engage in cheating juggling.
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        It is precisely against this practice of transitions that this Decree was directed

                        When you fantasize, try to do it quietly. And then just rave in reality.
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        Try in this free time just to take - and leave from one work to another

                        Simply and easily.
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        No applications, no "two weeks" - just one day to stop going to your old job. Preferably, during the execution of a large contract.

                        Have you read the Decree? Or do you have problems understanding what you read in Russian?
                        There are 10 lines of a completely unambiguous text written. And here you are carrying some kind of crazy nonsense.
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                      12 January 2017 00: 15
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      Do you understand that you are currently a slave living in slavery, in financial slavery at a bank?

                      I AM? Why is this a fright? Well, you and the dreamer.
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      You are confused in terms

                      Usually I do not have such a habit.
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      humanity is evolving from the complete freedom of primitive people

                      Complete freedom is only with a hermit in the forest. If he lives there alone. There was no particular freedom in the primitive communal society.
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      to the total dependence of a high-tech society

                      Really? You write a lot of new things.
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      therefore, it is correct to say "evolved from feudal to slaveholding."

                      The OEFs are clearly defined by political economy. And feudal OEF stands above slaveholding. Directly in front of the capitalist. Humanity has not yet come up with a capitalist one.
                      Although some eccentrics at one time and promoted a kind of "communist" OEF. But they just had problems. Different kinds.
                      Quote: KaPToC
                      the more developed the community of people, the more dependent an individual is in it on other people, like that ... SLAVE

                      No, this is another addiction. Not the one characterized by slave OEF.
          2. 0
            8 January 2017 19: 08
            Hey. Seasoned. Some sort of mach - our Russian ark is furrowing. I think Putin will settle the dumka.
          3. +4
            8 January 2017 22: 59
            Lenin liberated me and my ancestors from slavery in the 1917 year.
            1. +2
              9 January 2017 11: 35
              Quote: Aviator_
              Lenin liberated me and my ancestors from slavery in the 1917 year.

              Illiteracy and complete ignorance of the history of their country by some users of Runet sometimes amazes me.
              What did he free them from?
              From freedom and prosperity? From a normal human society?
              The bourgeois revolution in Russia was carried out by Emperor Michael II (have you heard of this? Surely not) in March 1917. Moreover, he transferred all power in Russia to the Constituent Assembly.
              And here Ulyanov with his bunch of crooks? He's a banal reactionary. His whole alleged "revolution" consisted in the fact that the tsar was replaced by the leader, and the nobles were replaced by the Bolsheviks. Those. after March 1917. the revolution of Mikhail II in Russia from October 1917 to January 1918. a creeping revolutionary revolution took place, and the country, through the efforts of the Bolsheviks, rolled back from the first stage of capitalism, into feudalism. Fortunately, at first (after the GW, I do not consider the horrors called "war communism", as well as the subsequent "deeds" of Dzhugashvili with his crooks) in its last stage, in the so-called. "state capitalism". In the USSR, it was called NEP. And in Russia under Nicholas II, it was not named in any way. It just existed and developed.
              And what exactly is "the liberation of Lenin's parents"? Society, after the revolution of Mikhail II, was at a higher stage of development than after the reactionary coup of Ulyanov. After the coup, it degenerated back into feudalism. Those. returned to the state of the times of Nicholas II. In what and where did you notice "parental liberation"?
              Apparently, your ancestors lived most freely a little later, under the "socialism" of Dzhugashvili, who generally degraded the Soviet feudal society, as it was under Ulyanov, to the level of slaveholding. Quite officially, at the legislative level. That was "happiness". That was "freedom".
              Moreover, he simultaneously deprived him of secularism, making him pseudo-religious. Those. USSR since 1936. and until the last days quite officially (and unofficially since 1927) it was one large sect on a national scale. With the dominant pseudo-religion "Marxism-Leninism". Which at the same time was officially called not a pseudo-religion, but "ideology".
              Nifiga people do not know history. Retell each other Bolshevik tales, and this happy.
              1. +3
                10 January 2017 05: 45
                Nonsense write, JS20. That you do not know history and political science, and therefore write all sorts of nonsense.
                In a bourgeois, capitalist society, where there is exploitation of man by man, where the "golden calf" rules, trampling on all human rights and freedoms, there can be no true freedom. It is a myth that under capitalism there is freedom. It does not and cannot exist under the capitalist antagonistic relations of labor and capital.
                Freedom can only be in a socialist society, where people do not work for the bourgeois capitalist’s pocket, but for the common good, which is then distributed in accordance with the labor invested.
                Only under socialism does a free person have the proper remuneration of his labor for receiving a distributed socially created product, in the form of free health care, education, housing, and other social benefits received.
                A bonded person in a capitalist society cannot be free!
                1. +2
                  10 January 2017 06: 33
                  I will add a video with the opinion of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War on capitalism.
                  1. +1
                    10 January 2017 23: 19
                    Quote: vladimirZ
                    I will add a video with the opinion of a veteran of the Great Patriotic War on capitalism.

                    And why should someone be interested in the opinion of a WWII veteran about capitalism?
                2. +1
                  10 January 2017 23: 48
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  In a bourgeois, capitalist society, where there is the exploitation of man by man

                  This is what, you would know how great is the exploitation of man by man in feudal and slave-owning societies. For your reference, the slave society in the USSR OFFICIALLY existed from 26.06.40/25.04.56/25.04.56. on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX Until the first date in the USSR there was a feudal society. And after XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, and until the very end of the USSR, too.
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  It is a myth that under capitalism there is freedom. It does not and cannot exist under the capitalist antagonistic relations of labor and capital.

                  You can even agree with you somewhere. But it is not for you, a person who has lived all his life under less advanced forms of development of society, to kick "capitalism". You still need to reach him. Mentally, first of all.
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Freedom can only be in a socialist society,

                  "Socialist society" is a pseudo-religious society, not a secular one. The term "socialist society" had nothing to do with economics at all. Economically, "socialism" consisted of two main formations. First, until 1936, feudalism (of varying degrees of freedom). Then a gradual transition to a slave society, which ended on 26.06.40. legalization of the slave society in the USSR. Then, from 1953. preparation and implementation of the feudal revolution in the USSR under the leadership of Khrushchev. This process ended on 26.06.40. the return of the USSR to a feudal society. In which it stayed until the end of its days.
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  where people work not for the bourgeois capitalist’s pocket, but for the common good, which is then distributed in accordance with the labor invested.

                  Do you have everything at home? Nobody went on a business trip?
                  For some reason, it seems to me that we left. And many.
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Only under socialism does a free person have the proper remuneration of his labor for receiving a distributed socially created product, in the form of free health care, education, housing, and other social benefits received.

                  Once again I draw your attention, free cheese is ONLY in a mousetrap.
                  As the cat Matroskin said, "in order to sell something unnecessary, we first need to buy something unnecessary."
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  A bonded person in a capitalist society cannot be free!

                  As it were, a bonded person is not free. Only in a capitalist society is man the least compelled. Of all societies known to mankind. And that is why today capitalist society is considered the highest level of it, society, development.
                  1. +2
                    11 January 2017 06: 33
                    Really nonsense, as wrote about your, JS20, Cat Man Null scribble. They grabbed the tops of the liberal fables and WEAR A TOTAL Nonsense. It looks like a victim of the exam.
                    1. 0
                      11 January 2017 17: 41
                      Quote: vladimirZ
                      They grabbed the tops of the liberal fables and WEAR A TOTAL Nonsense.

                      You have nothing to say. But I do not want to admit to being fooled by the Bolsheviks. So you post funny pictures.
                      1. +2
                        11 January 2017 19: 08
                        You are fooled by liberal capitalism. I have strong beliefs that have been tested by life. I lived during the Soviet Union and now, and I can and can compare, distinguish black and white.
                        The USSR, if not for betrayal at the top, a successful and prosperous state with a growing economy, is the 2nd industrial power in the world in which people lived happily with confidence in the future.
                        Today, under oligarchic predatory capitalism, Russia is a backward colonial state with a collapsed industry and economy, sitting on an oil and gas pipeline, the revenues from which go to the pockets of oligarchs and corrupt officials, so that even the budget of Russia cannot be formed in due form. There is a degradation of the country, unemployment, poverty and misery are growing, cities and villages are dying out, the territory is "quietly" transferred to other states.
                        It looks like you either do not understand simple elementary things, or a troll who has appeared on this site, working out his "silversmiths". Therefore, I stop communicating with you.
                      2. 0
                        11 January 2017 20: 54
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        I lived during the Soviet Union and now, and I can and can compare, distinguish black and white.

                        What can you compare? Pseudo-religious feudalism with secular. And nothing more. In this case, you take to talk about capitalism.
                        So I say, theorist Bukhara. I have not tried it myself, but I know the effect well.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        if not for betrayal at the top, a successful and prosperous state with a growing economy, the 2nd industrial power in the world in which the people lived happily with confidence in the future.

                        Lord, who told you such nonsense?
                        And you are not confused that in such a steep country the population was as poor as a church mouse? What of all the property of a person for his whole life accumulated on a crystal vase, a woolen carpet, and a wall made of chipboard. And a pair of pants. And that’s all.
                        There was no housing.
                        A car and even a motorcycle were a sign of luxury.
                        What about the shortage of grub in stores? At rabid in relative terms, prices.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        Now under oligarchic predatory capitalism, Russia

                        Ah, in Russia today, it turns out, capitalism. Who would have thought.
                        You need to learn. As your idol Ulyanov bequeathed to you. And then you have a very bad education.
                        Quote: vladimirZ
                        It looks like you either do not understand simple elementary things, or a troll who has appeared on this site, working out his "silversmiths". Therefore, I stop communicating with you.

                        I can only be glad about your decision. On my own I note that "talking with a clever janitor, poorly understanding the class structure of society, did not give Ostap any pleasure."
              2. +2
                10 January 2017 10: 36
                Quote: JS20
                Society, after the revolution of Mikhail II, was at a higher stage of development than after the reactionary coup of Ulyanov.

                After February, society was on the stage of permanent Maidan in the context of the ongoing World War II.
                Government-sanctioned collapse of the army, fighting in the capital, throwing in domestic politics: in July we shoot supporters of the Soviets and land, and in August we ask for help and actually legalize illegal armed groups represented by the Red Guard - just because the government has no forces to stop the movement to the capital of only one rebel division. Ukraine is systematically separating - the capital sends formidable decrees and plenipotentiaries on which they put big and thick ... and the capital is wiping off, because there are no levers.
                But how freely you breathe in the revived Arcanar! smile
                1. 0
                  11 January 2017 00: 06
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  society after February was at the stage of permanent Maidan in the ongoing world war.

                  I do not know what the "stage of the permanent Maidan" is.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Ukraine is systematically separating - the capital sends formidable decrees and plenipotentiaries on which they put big and thick ... and the capital is wiping off, because there are no levers.

                  Learn history, Ukraine separated ONLY after the completion of the reactionary bourgeois revolution of October 1917, January 1918.
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Government-sanctioned army collapse, fighting in the capital, throwing in domestic politics

                  This is not a reason for carrying out a reactionary (that is, with the degradation of society one step lower; the opposite of revolution) coup in the country.

                  All "witnesses to socialism" cannot understand one simple thing. In December 1927. (I do not even consider the earlier dates and actions of the Bolsheviks, although there is something to consider) in Russia there was a state catastrophe in its FINAL form. Under the general guidance of its "architect" Dzhugashvili. Which called into question the very existence of Russia in the future. Society in Russia (then called the USSR) was so thrown back in its development (literally in the Middle Ages) that it is not a fact that someday in the future it will be able to recover from this shock. And make up for lost time. And without this, Russia will simply be trampled. We see a lot of such examples in world history.
                  Let's hope for the best, of course.
                  1. +1
                    11 January 2017 10: 15
                    Quote: JS20
                    I do not know what the "stage of the permanent Maidan" is.

                    And this is when two authorities are sitting in the capital, strange people with red armbands and weapons are walking along the streets, and already at a distance of several kilometers from the capital, government orders are executed only after discussion. Or not executed.
                    Here at such a higher stage of development was society after February.
                    Quote: JS20
                    Learn history, Ukraine separated ONLY after the completion of the reactionary bourgeois revolution of October 1917, January 1918.

                    Take a log out of your eye ... or have you forgotten about the spring of 1917 - about the All-Ukrainian congresses with their resolutions on "immediate proclamation by a special act of the principle of national-territorial autonomy of Ukraine"? About the Central Rada and the Ukrainian General Military Committee? About the First Universal? About the creation of the General Secretariat? About the" Basics of interim administration in Ukraine "? About the Declaration of the General Secretariat at the end of September 1917?
                    ... the secretariat for military affairs (the creation of which, we recall, was prohibited by the Provisional Government) should be given the right to appoint and remove "military ranks in military districts on the territory of Ukraine and in all Ukrainian military units", the "supreme military power" is recognized only purely the formal right to "approve" these orders of the Ukrainian authorities.

                    And how to finish:
                    Appointments to posts in the Kiev military district without the knowledge of the Central Rada were supposed to be considered "an act unacceptable and undoubtedly harmful," and it was forbidden to carry out the orders of any official "until one was appointed with the consent of the Central Rada."

                    By October 1917, Ukraine came up with a ready-made separation program and ready-made authorities - created during the reign of the Temporary workers.
                    1. 0
                      11 January 2017 17: 57
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      And this is when two authorities are sitting in the capital

                      This does not happen. Because the authority is always one.
                      The second (third, fourth) in Russian is called differently. Not maidan.
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      Here at such a higher stage of development was society after February.

                      In February 1917 no significant events took place in the life of Russia. Is it that Emperor Nicholas II in favor of Emperor Michael II.
                      You don’t even know that.
                      And already in March 1917. Emperor Michael II abdicated in favor of the Constituent Assembly. Thus, having accomplished a bourgeois revolution in Russia. Which she could use, but might not use. Unfortunately, I didn’t use it. And her future from this now (today) is very foggy.
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      You forgot about the spring of 1917 - about the All-Ukrainian congresses with their resolutions

                      These resolutions were penniless. You never know who, when and what resolutions adopted.
                      Ukraine escaped from Russia in April 1918. It was then that the Central Council of Ukraine proclaimed its independence. Until that moment, there was nothing of the kind; Ukraine participated in the elections to the All-Russian Constituent Assembly. And after its dispersal by the Bolsheviks, it separated from Russia.
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      By October 1917, Ukraine came up with a ready-made separation program and ready-made authorities - created during the reign of the Temporary workers.

                      I wrote to you more than once, stop fantasizing. And distort. Rely on historical facts, it will be more true.
              3. +1
                10 January 2017 10: 42
                Quote: JS20
                Illiteracy and complete ignorance of the history of their country by some users of Runet sometimes amazes me.

                Me too! Especially your personal "pearls" laughing
          4. +1
            10 January 2017 10: 40
            You would, my dear JS20, with your fantasies go to another thematic forum. In psychology and psychiatry - there they will be more in the subject laughing
  14. +16
    8 January 2017 11: 23
    Japan is desperately short of resources. Therefore, the Japanese for many centuries tried to capture Korea. They hardly touched our Far East, being pathological cowards. The Japanese emperor was gaining protection from the Siberian Cossacks, and a couple of dozen Cossacks reliably guarded him from thousands of samurai. But the unfortunate Koreans were fully aware of what Japanese aggression was.
    During the Second World War, the Japanese captured many islands. And they behaved there in such a way that not only the Chinese (who were massacred with such cruelty and abomination that there are simply no words), but in general practically all of Southeast Asia hated them fiercely. As a matter of fact, largely because of this, the "Japanese economic miracle" of modern times burst.
    It’s just that practically none of its neighbors really want to do business with the Japanese. Even with all the profitability of this business, expansion gradually subsided. The only exception to this rule is us. But the Japanese are not only mean and cruel to disbelief. there is another feature. As if it’s more delicate ... In general, they don’t have much mind there. Not in the factory of the Japanese mind, it is not customary to have it. But what about ?!
    Yeah. Robots and tape recorders. Take a closer look at both. You will find a few people and many, many stolen goods. Well, and also - a thorough, long-term training (in this they are strong), perseverance, hard work. But only. So with the only people who do not hold them evil, the Japanese fiercely quarreled at the direction of others. It would be funny if it weren’t so stupid in Japanese ...
    1. +1
      8 January 2017 16: 59
      Can you give facts on the account - "The Japanese emperor recruited security from the Siberian Cossacks"? Which emperors, in what time period did this happen?
      1. +2
        8 January 2017 18: 52
        Yes, everyone knows that, the Internet is an assistant. I am ashamed not to know such things. The Japanese emperor would now take the Cossacks to guard, but American military bases interfere.
        So believe after this that the Japanese have no mind how to keep the Cossacks in guard so it is, and as there are no Cossacks in the guard, this is clear evidence of the loss of mind by the emperor of Japan and the Japanese people.
        1. 0
          10 January 2017 10: 51
          Quote: Kostya Andreev
          Yes, everyone knows that, the Internet is an assistant.

          Translated into Russian: you yourself cannot justify your lies, require help from opponents laughing laughing

          Quote: Kostya Andreev
          The Japanese emperor would now take the Cossacks to guard

          What? Take these mummers somewhere other than to the circus, clowns ?! belay
          By the way, who is the emperor of the Japanese now, according to your particularly reliable information? lol
          1. 0
            12 January 2017 08: 46
            I will answer you this way, I respond to senility with sarcasm.
            1. 0
              12 January 2017 09: 26
              Quote: Kostya Andreev
              I respond to senility with sarcasm.

              What can I say ... insanity you manage, but sarcasm - no laughing

              By the way, I’m not the only one who was interested in the sources of nonsense about the Siberian Cossacks for the protection of the Japanese emperor, and your answers have not yet been seen. It's about insanity, yes lol
              1. 0
                12 January 2017 09: 53
                Regarding insanity, this is my friend to you, read carefully, or rather express your thoughts. It wrote
                Quote: Mikhail3
                The Japanese emperor was gaining protection from the Siberian Cossacks, and a couple of dozen Cossacks reliably guarded him from thousands of samurai. .

                1. 0
                  12 January 2017 11: 04
                  Yes, to blame: really confused you with Michael. Not the compartment that it was you who * his * ingenious * theses were repeated. Not to confuse subtle sarcasm with fat idiocy for long laughing
                  1. +1
                    12 January 2017 13: 07
                    it happens, in the park myself, I can write this, which is huge.
                    The only thing that I did not advise was to use this quote at the session of the institute. I can imagine how the teacher will be surprised.!
    2. +2
      8 January 2017 17: 33
      Yeah. Here is a comment, even confused. I’m stupid, I argued with one comrade trying to prove to him that ours at 45 defeated a serious enemy, carried out a brilliant offensive operation with minimal losses in difficult conditions. But it turns out that the Japanese are pathological cowards, and this comrade was right, this is garbage, not an operation. Well, in principle, Americans were right underpants with Japanese underpants and therefore fought for a long time. were afraid of each other.
      Only strange it turns out that RI in 1905 was left without a fleet and land, and the Union was forced to keep the army so that the cowards would not want to test their courage. And the cowards took over Asia. and if it weren’t for cowards, Americans don’t know how it would end
      to be honest, I thought that economic expansion had died out due to other reasons, but it could arise again, for example, after receiving cheap energy resources, for example, gas from the Russian Federation, which Japan is trying to do. And the author explains it with a simple phrase "They don't want"
      The author will take an interest in who is doing business with the Japanese (a trump about two days ago he threatened Toyota with high duties if they built a plant in Mexico). Japanese factories or in one way or another related industries everywhere, even in China (who invested in the Chinese automobile industry and other industries?). but now they are leaving, or rather, they are leaving. since they became competitors to Chinese manufacturers. Therefore, historical memory woke up.
      the Japanese are mean and cruel,[i] [/ i], it’s easier to write like this - all nations are vile and cruel and only Russians are kind and honest, well, and a little bit more others (depending on the situation of the so-called fraternal ones).
      About the mind of the Japanese generally killed on the spot. How he measured this, to write such nonsense. I can bring that the Germans, Russians, Tajiks, Uzbeks do not have him at all. nonsense even comment is not necessary.
      Dear author, why didn’t you mention that in Japan there are no Jews in the banking sector. and the banking sector belongs to the Japanese? And in Japan, there are no liberals and Western democracy!
      About the only people who do not hold evil against the Japanese, (I guessed what !, the kindest, most honest and fair), the author in politics has no good and evil has interests. it is interests that do not allow the Japanese to seize the Far East., This is a big hemorrhoid, why do they need it, why fight for it if it can be bought? That they did not take it after the revolution, why?
      Well, judging by the number of pluses, this article was to the taste of local couch patriots who did not go further than Kukuevo, and did not communicate with representatives of other nations. God cripple you, I'm not like that.
      1. +1
        9 January 2017 12: 32
        For distorting the word "patriot" I would give you a minus if there was one. Well, on the topic ... Have you ever wondered how cowardly a person must be, who had to be declared dead, so that he went on the attack? Announce dead, sing in the temple, pour him a good sake ... often kamikazes were so drunk that they could not crawl to death.
        For a long time, all this topic with kamikaze froze me with its absurdity. Yes, and the presentation of these ssykunov (sorry) as heroes ... A closer look at this amazing nation, the Japanese, led me to a voiced opinion. Vile cowards, idlers and perverts. If you get a little further behind the official legends (which, incidentally, were put by American advertisers and marketers in 60-70 years, all these samurai, ninja, kamikaze, la-la three rubles), then see for yourself. From antiquity to the present. Throw the speaker and run away, so that on the second day from the excess of pressure banged ...
        And about the fact that the Far East of Japan is not needed now and was not needed then, this is generally cool. Are you serious about this? Famously gone ...
        1. 0
          10 January 2017 10: 56
          Quote: Mikhail3
          Ever wondered how cowardly a person should be who had to be declared dead in order for him to attack?

          So what do you personally need to do with you so that you personally voluntarily go to guaranteed death? lol
          I suspect that declaring dead will not be enough ... laughing
        2. 0
          12 January 2017 08: 47
          For the nonsense you wrote in general you need to ban, I feel further advertising articles about ninjas and did not go deep,
      2. +1
        9 January 2017 12: 33
        Sorry two times inserted comment.
      3. 0
        11 January 2017 23: 56
        Quote: Kostya Andreev
        Dear author, why didn’t you mention that in Japan there are no Jews in the banking sector. and the banking sector belongs to the Japanese? And in Japan, there are no liberals and Western democracy!

        For Japan, there is no need for such complex forms of external management, Japan is under American occupation and is directly controlled, EVERYTHING in Japan belongs to the Americans.
    3. 0
      10 January 2017 10: 48
      Quote: Mikhail3
      They hardly touched our Far East, being pathological cowards.

      Interesting story of your personal alternative Galaxy laughing
      But in ours, Russia was very unlucky in 1904-1905.
      1. +2
        10 January 2017 15: 25
        Quote: murriou
        Interesting story of your personal alternative Galaxy

        This is how the fellow villagers scorch - on ignorance of the history of our reality. laughing
        Giggles ... I immediately remembered "Uninteresting time" - how the GG was looking for the almighty Stalin in 1925.
        Quote: murriou
        But in ours, Russia was very unlucky in 1904-1905.

        And then also in 1918-1921.
        And after that, the USSR had to keep 30-50% of the cadre units in the Far East until the end of the 70s. On 01.01.1935/15/9, 3 out of 600 personnel rifle divisions of the Red Army were part of the OKDVA. All 1 personnel collective farm divisions were also there. In the Second World War, on the "anti-Japanese" direction, from 2 thousand to 2,5 million military personnel, as well as 3-3,5 thousand aircraft and XNUMX-XNUMX thousand tanks were pickled. Defending the USSR from pathologically cowardly Japanese, Yes...
        It was possible to get rid of Japanese concessions in the Far East imposed on the USSR in 1922 in exchange for the withdrawal of Japanese troops only in 1944. And in 1945, they returned what they lost in 1905. With interest in the form of the Kuril Islands.
  15. +5
    8 January 2017 11: 31
    I wonder who will write about the Nanking massacre, a look from the Japanese. It is interesting to read how they make excuses and what lead to evidence of their innocence. (To write and give references to the Nanking massacre, accusing me of not knowing the subject. I don’t need to know I know).
    I do not defend the Japanese or the Chinese, but the Chinese were to a large extent to blame for the Nanking massacre when they surrendered the city without a fight.
    condemning the brutality and atrocities of the Japanese. ask what the Chinese did with the captured Japanese prisoners or spies. And the stories about the cruelty of Chinese mercenaries during the revolution in Russia are different. (But as I understand it, they lie, because revolutionaries do not behave like that).
    North and South Korea are united by the fact that the Japanese cut them regardless of their political views.
    1. +5
      8 January 2017 15: 16
      But would the Chinese hand over the city with a fight, would there not be a massacre?
      1. +1
        8 January 2017 16: 32
        I don’t know, I don’t know. Maybe you’re right, but fighting in the city would lead to fewer times after the assault of the rapists, and the remaining Japanese would not be massacred. impunity she corrupts. instead of dying in battle, these soldiers and civilians were killed while practicing bayonet strikes and other experiments. They threw all their destructive energy onto the population and prisoners, instead of wasting it in battle. By their act, the Chinese discredited themselves in the eyes of the Japanese. (it's not my thoughts I don’t remember where I read it).
        This is visible to me from the couch, but it is not known what and how !!!!
        1. +5
          8 January 2017 17: 35
          The Joker YOU Kinstintin! The mass of cities resisted in the history of wars - BUT IF THE CAPTIVERS WISHED THEM THEM FROM THE CUTTING OF THE POPULATION AND THE CAPTIVES Nothing STOPPED! The Japanese wanted to drink blood - THEY ARE ATTENDED IN IT!
  16. +1
    8 January 2017 11: 51
    They claim that the Kwantung Army surrendered on the orders of Emperor Hirohito, and the Red Army only took advantage of such a fortunate circumstance.
    Was the emperor the official chief commander?
    Or is it again the eastern features-twists-freaks. national color is not the order of the com division?
  17. 0
    8 January 2017 12: 07
    antivirus 1 Today, 11:51 | Japan has convinced herself that she is the main victim of the war in the East, but she cannot convince the world
    They claim that the Kwantung Army surrendered on the orders of Emperor Hirohito, and the Red Army only took advantage of such a fortunate circumstance.
    Was the emperor the official chief commander?
    Or is it again the eastern features-twists-freaks. national color is not an order or an order of a com division?
  18. 0
    8 January 2017 12: 50
    In principle, I agree. But I want to recall that the Kwantung army could not take part in the defense of Japan. The entire transport fleet has already been knocked out. Therefore, our operation affected only the position of the USSR in Korea and not the defeat of Japan.
    1. +1
      8 January 2017 14: 57
      Misunderstood. In your opinion, the Kwantung army consisted of Koreans?
      1. 0
        8 January 2017 22: 30
        From the Japanese. But stuck in Korea. And capitulated in any case. At least due to the lack of any supply.
    2. +1
      10 January 2017 15: 41
      Quote: Kenneth
      In principle, I agree. But I want to recall that the Kwantung army could not take part in the defense of Japan. The entire transport fleet has already been knocked out. Therefore, our operation affected only the position of the USSR in Korea and not the defeat of Japan.

      Here the psychological moment is also important.
      First, North China / Manchuria and Korea were considered a reliable rear for Japan (like France for the Reich). And suddenly a hop - and this reliable support is knocked out from under my legs like a stool on a scaffold. smile
      Secondly, the Japanese Foreign Ministry was so imbued with the idea of ​​making the USSR a neutral mediator in negotiations with the Allies that little by little it believed in the reality of this, and, worst of all, convinced others of it. As a result, an already initially delusional idea "Japan will become an intermediary between the USSR and the Reich, and for this the USSR will become an intermediary between Japan and the Allies"(delusional because they began to develop it in the summer of 1943 ... it's time for the USSR to start negotiations laughing ) has actually become the core of not only foreign policy, but also the worldview of the Japanese elite. Even when the Reich fell and it was physically impossible to drive the USSR into a "debt of honor" before Japan, the Japanese Foreign Ministry still continued to "keep its face" and turn to Moscow with requests for mediation in the negotiations. And on August 10 the template "neutral USSR intermediary"not only cracked, but completely disintegrated, leaving the Japanese in a state of shock.
      August 10. A new bomb was dropped on Japan yesterday. This time the goal was the city of Nagasaki. Another terrible news came upon us, like a flash of lightning in a clear sky. Russia declared war and invaded Manchuria and North Korea. We heard that huge land armies and entire hordes of bombers were thrown into battle.
      This meant the last blow to Japan, which already froze in anticipation of an imminent invasion of the Americans.
      Local authorities recommended the evacuation of the city of Matsumoto, which has not yet been subjected to American air raids. But they did it somehow doomed. Most of the company's employees are now engaged in the arrangement of personal files, hid factory machines and equipment. The daily work was completely abandoned. It seems that people considered defeat only a matter of time.
      © Jiro Horikoshi
  19. +2
    8 January 2017 13: 13
    It was necessary to capture Hokkaido and take Tokyo in due time. You need to talk with animeshniki from a position of strength - they don’t understand another conversation in the East!
    1. 0
      8 January 2017 22: 33
      What a force. Compare what is in the Far East with what the Japanese can exhibit
      1. 0
        12 January 2017 00: 02
        Quote: Kenneth
        What a force. Compare what is in the Far East with what the Japanese can exhibit

        Russia has a total advantage.
  20. +1
    8 January 2017 13: 44
    As A. and B. Strugatsky wrote, "And this Japanese is a beast, on his own mind, you need to keep your ears open with him."
  21. 0
    8 January 2017 13: 45
    The children of Amaterasu are still those butchers.
  22. +3
    8 January 2017 14: 19
    The main thing for the Japanese government is to convince one and a half billion Chinese and Koreans of this. Special thanks from the entire civilization to the imperial family for a breakthrough in the field of biological and bacteriological weapons of mass destruction, including encephalitis ticks.
  23. 0
    8 January 2017 14: 55
    The intensification of the confrontation is now on the eastern front. State vassals are preparing their people for military revenge. And they smile and bow very kindly. East however.
  24. +3
    8 January 2017 17: 59
    Quote: The same Lech
    The German government has already begun to become impudent in this regard ... they are beginning to teach us how to behave ourselves ... they have survived ... the victorious country in WWII.

    Quote: Aviator_
    Well, they can’t understand that our Kuril Islands are the result of the war.

    In general, there have been no winning countries in the Second World War for 25 years already. And, accordingly, there is no force that would prevent the outcome of the Second World War from being reviewed. It is unpleasant, but true: the implementation of any international "agreements" is possible only when there are forces capable of punishing those who do not.
    1. +3
      8 January 2017 18: 24
      In general, there have been no winning countries in the Second World War for 25 years already. And, accordingly, there is no force that would prevent the outcome of the Second World War from being reviewed. It is unpleasant, but true: the implementation of any international "agreements" is possible only when there are forces capable of punishing those who do not.

      And who is the legal successor of the WHO? Who paid the USSR debts, not Russia an hour? And do you really think that Russia can’t tighten a vise about Japan? Japon just thinks that maybe even how.
      I would forgive you the "easy" shalban would give for the words - "There are no victorious countries in the Second World War, in general"
      1. 0
        8 January 2017 22: 35
        Russia does not have a vice for Japan
        1. 0
          8 January 2017 22: 41
          Quote: Kenneth
          Russia does not have a vice for Japan

          - SNF?
  25. +1
    8 January 2017 20: 19
    Did not mention the valor of the 731 squad
    1. +1
      8 January 2017 20: 28
      A separate article is needed on this subject. How many of them lived, did not grieve under the mattress's touch am Still - such an experience, the same with "Bayer" - fuck us, they are treating us using the experiments of the Nazis am
  26. BAI
    +1
    9 January 2017 14: 41
    There is interesting information in the TV series "Liberators". It turns out that by agreement with the United States and Britain, the USSR had to not only defeat the Kwantung Army, recapture Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands, but also occupy Hokaido. The operation was canceled by order of Stalin. But if they had occupied at least a part of the island, then they would have bargained on it now, no one would have remembered the Kuriles. Although no one would have remembered them anyway, if the United States had not rushed in advance.
    1. +2
      10 January 2017 10: 53
      Quote: BAI
      It turns out that, by agreement with the United States and England, the USSR was to not only defeat the Kwantung Army, recapture Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands, but also occupy Hokaido. The operation was canceled by order of Stalin. But if they had occupied at least part of the island, then they would have bargained at the expense of it now, no one would have remembered the Kuril Islands.

      Iosif Vissarionovich was just a realist. And as a result of landings on the islands of the Kuril ridge and in Korea, he decided to cancel the future Hokkaido meat grinder. For the operations already carried out have shown that the Pacific Fleet and the Kamchatka Flotilla do not know how to land and do not want to learn how to do it. To wake up the Japanese with artillery barrage across the squares, to land troops by the "swim to shore" method at a depth of 2-3 meters; drown 21 radios out of 22; abandon the capture of batteries firing at landing ships; to substitute a landing with a 4x45-mm anti-tank vehicle under a tank attack; having superiority in forces not to suppress enemy aircraft, which, as a result, inflicted several BShUs on DESO and sank the boat ... in general, the landing on Shumshu is some kind of fierce horror. However, the Pacific Fleet in Korea also fired up - from the leadership of the landing forces from Vladivostok to the complete absence of any interaction between the marines and the Navy's air force (naval aviators did not provide any support to the landing forces). Oh, yes, the KR and EM of the fleet remained in Vladivostok, and the paratroopers were supported by single frigates, minesweepers and PSKR with their 76-100 mm guns.
  27. 0
    9 January 2017 21: 57
    Japan is a typical "thief" who, while "stealing", shouts loudest of all - "Stop thief"
  28. 0
    10 January 2017 13: 03
    For all its hardworkingness, the Japanese nation is sick at all costs, sooner or later, all of their atrocities of the Second World War will come back to them, the atomic bombing was only a fraction. Yes, even the Germans during the Second World War and the Americans during Vietnam compared with them children.
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  30. +2
    11 January 2017 18: 02
    Quote: JS20
    Simply and easily..

    That is, you can easily and simply, without notifying anyone, one day stop going to one job and go to another? And at the old job you can only threaten with a finger ... and give the labor?