Who needs Siberia and when will Moscow become Russia?

April 21 2016 602

I do not want to watch TV! At least all these economic programs are accurate. Any central channel, when it raises the topic of wages or living standards in the regions, invites leading experts, department heads, ministries ... In short, those who, in the opinion of channel managers, really influence the resolution of these issues.

Well-dressed, judging by their appearance, well-fed people tell Russians how to live correctly ... And you have to live like an idiot from an advertisement. Remember, "a good director will not leave without a pension ..." You must fight for your rights ... You must demand ... You must, must, must ... And they (company directors, business owners, foremen, foremen and etc.) must give you ...

Yes, Christmas trees, sticks ... Dear Muscovites, well, you ride to Russia. Not a picnic, but just a look. We have destroyed villages not because the men in these villages drank themselves, and they do not need anything. And the roads in the spring washes away not from what they build badly. Even kindergartens on parental support are not from the wealth of these same parents.

It's disgusting to look at how, for the picture, to create the appearance of “everything is in order”, the TV reporters are forced to sculpt a pseudo-truth. Russia, the one that is not in Moscow, sees the truth every day. And hears. Do not like it - you can leave. Do not hold ...

He knows that it’s like in the programs for housewives (those who are at the time when men are injected) are secular lionesses (interesting profession, like a kept woman, or what?), Actresses, representatives of some charity foundations, Duma and other deputies. And they begin to dishonor a peasant from the village of Upper Nizhnyaki, when he speaks with pride of working with a salary of 20 thousand rubles.

And they all together talk about how they achieved everything in Moscow. And no one will say that for these V. Nizhnyakov the salary in 20000 rubles is huge. And the man really plows to get this money. And he understands that with any "jamb" he will fly out of this warm place faster than a cork from a bottle of champagne.

Once I also came to Siberia in the same way and argued with the local aborigines. We, in Moscow, plow three jobs to live in dignity. And here you are on one, and you also want to live in the same way ... I argued to “grab the breasts”, to foam on the lips. And did not recognize any arguments. Do not want to live, and that's it ... How is there no work? This makes no sense...

But as time passed, I was fed up with Moscow life. Believe it or not, but I have come “for a time” to this forgotten God of Siberia. I understand that now many will grab the keyboard. How is it - about Siberia? That's how. It is the territory forgotten by God and people. The closet of the country from which various minerals are simply taken out. Get out simple "movers" with the appropriate wage.

I constantly read about some government programs for the development of Siberia and the Far East. Some billions are investing somewhere. Something is being built somewhere. What just do not read. Bravo! And again, bravo! You give Siberia as a place of welfare for those who are not afraid of extreme cold, who are not afraid of the summer heat, as in the average desert, those who are not afraid to spend a week, two, three apart from any civilization because of the storm, flooding and other delights of ours weather!

Yes, the edge is difficult! The edge is not for wimps! But this land is not for the exiles. When the king - yes ... But today the king is not. And Russia is pumping the riches of Siberia in such a way that none of the Romanovs ever dreamed of. So why do we live like this?

Why do people live in “poor” Moscow as many as in Siberia and the Far East combined? Why are talented young people (and we have as many talents as everywhere else, plus our “stubborn” character) fleeing to Russia? Talented in everything.

The country was stirred up by the question from Omsk about the roads. How many copies are broken on all the channels about these roads! And how many nasty things are written and said to the mayor and the governor ... And with some malice some commented on the words about the beginning of the repair. After all, they found money. So there they are! Yes, no them! We have no money.

I do not read how to restore the road. I just look out the window of the bus or bus. Yes, they started to work. And they will work until winter. Yes, until winter. And in the spring there will be the same problems again. We have such a weather. That thaw, the water in the asphalt is poured, then frost for 40. And tearing this very asphalt.

And the money really was there. The president said and found. But lost elsewhere. The mayors of our cities today are probably the most unhappy people. Breaks everywhere, but there is no money. There are huge refineries, there are factories that produce products of world quality. The same "Pinocchio" and "Sunny" Omsk production. And the hard workers in these factories receive 18-25 thousand rubles.

But all these plants, factories, institutes bought by someone and sometime. Belong to Moscow, St. Petersburg or some other concerns. And taxes are paid, respectively, there too.

You have no idea with what hatred the workers of these enterprises speak about nonresident "owners". These are people who built these plants in the Soviet era. People who are affiliated with these walls, machine tools, even with trees in the area. This is a house. Exactly the same as an apartment or city. And now this house is simply robbed. Destroy everything and everyone, without investing anything in the new. What for? Temporary workers.

When you read our ideological opponents about the problems of Siberia and the Far East, no matter how scary it is to admit it, there is a reason in their words. There is much talk about the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, who "spread their mouths" into our territories. But. Dear readers, if Russia needs these territories only to take it, then ... Why was Omsk a garden city in the USSR? Any Omsk confirm my words. Everywhere flowers, everywhere trees, everywhere parks. And today it is a big, poorly cleaned village.

People came here from all over the Union and stayed. Stayed in a new homeland. They gave birth to children, built houses. Extracted oil. People came to places where they were, at least, not worse than at home. And if you take into account the benefits that were provided to Siberians, it is better. And today they are running. Run from hopelessness. From the reproaches of Moscow "who know how to live." Run from Siberia. Run from the Far East.

And in the place of those who left, representatives of fraternal peoples come. When I was in school, it was almost impossible to meet Kazakhs. At least, I remember exactly, there was not one in our parallel. Although Kazakhstan has not become closer since that time. In kilometers, of course. Students were. Cadres were trained for the entire Union. And there were no locals.

Today 3 of 10 you meet will be of eastern appearance. If not more.

So, gentlemen Rus-Muscovites? Do you need Siberia? Or to hell with us? Get out as you want? We get out. But for now, the hatred of Siberians extends only to Moscow. Nothing, Muscovites are used to this. But time is ticking. And hate is growing.

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Gippo

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April 22 2016 01: 27

Again this journalist whore Staver brought to the light of God the rotten topic about Moscow and the “rest of Russia”.
And you, again, like an obedient herd of rats following the guide’s magic pipe, walk with a cheerful goose step into a stormy river to find your end there.
We take out various marches of the White Guard scum who screwed up the Great Empire and begin to reason that “the well-fed will not understand the hungry.” Who's hungry here? And who is full here?
There are 12 people in Moscow (actually three times more) - do you think they roll like cheese in butter? Well, come and check it out.
Rated? Yeah. And then 100500 cries about the fact that the damned have seized the whole of Russia.
Do you believe this yourself? Well, like this, garlic? Do you even know Moscow prices? No?
So Google will help you on how expensive it is to live in a “non-rubber” apartment. Did they come to you in large numbers and buy everything? Where have you been? Why was it allowed? Ask these questions to your native governors and other authorities who REALLY love money.
And yes, come. We always welcome guests.
Only when the guests spit on the table and say that the owners are too greedy, I don’t care about such guests. And at the same time they casually ask where to rent a room cheaper and register.....
It just so happens that enterprising, mobile and creative rats are the first to flee from their homes.
And the attitude towards them is known. Everywhere.
1. yuriy55
  
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  April 22 2016 17: 36
  
  Quote: Gippo
  So Google will help you on how expensive it is to live in a “non-rubber” apartment. Did they come to you in large numbers and buy everything? Where have you been? Why was it allowed?
  
  There is no need to act like a fool. Someone would ask the local population... And now they don’t stand on ceremony: if you don’t like it, go out the door!
  
  As a resident of Siberia, I didn’t see anything indiscriminate in the article. It's all true. There are only shopping centers and markets in the city...Neither the mayor nor the governor can picture the future of the region with such owners and so many different types of correctional institutions...
2. Greenwood
  
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  April 22 2016 17: 50
  
  Quote: Gippo
  Do you think they roll like cheese in butter?
  Against the backdrop of life in villages and single-industry towns with industry dying on its last legs, the life of an “unfortunate Muscovite” can truly be called “cheese in butter.”
  Quote: Gippo
  Do you even know Moscow prices?
  Prices for products in Moscow are lower or comparable to prices here in the Primorsky Territory, no need to la-la.
  Quote: Gippo
  Where have you been?
  And someone asked us. The loot, the security forces, the prosecutor's office, everything is on the side of the feds from Moscow.
  Quote: Gippo
  Why was it allowed?
  Those who tried to resist and “not allow” are either in places not so remote, or in the next world, or are sitting “quieter than the grass.” Some were bought, some fled over the hill. As if something on the ground could really stop Moscow.
  Quote: Gippo
  enterprising mobile and creative
  It’s the best personnel who are running away because they can’t find a job at home, and that’s why they go to the capital, or even abroad.
L10n77

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April 22 2016 01: 50

Quote: Gennady85
67000 salary, that's just for renting housing gives 35000t.r.
25000 zp in Omsk housing 10000r.
My friend boasted that in Moscow he received For 60000 rubles, of which he gives 28000 rubles an apartment, a fare of 8000 rubles, and loans for 20000 tons. That's the whole truth about visiting Muscovites!
there is no need to sing about renting housing in Moscowabad and travel, but in Sverdlovsk rent is also more than 25000, and travel is 10000, and the salary is 37000, so here you go.
Freeman

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April 22 2016 04: 45

Article "fat minus"
At first I thought that the author, “raking out the dung heap,” found a certain “pearl” (pearl), the “quintessence” of all the problems of modern Russia - unequal pay for equal work in different regions and the “unfair” distribution of taxes coming from the regions in favor of the capital.
But in reality it turned out that he had smeared everything around the “pearl” with manure.
1. According to the text, it turns out that some “Moscow and St. Petersburg” people are to blame for everything:
all these plants, factories, and institutes were bought out by someone at some point. They belong to Moscow, St. Petersburg....You can’t imagine with what hatred the workers of these enterprises speak about the out-of-town “owners”.

- And nothing that from the fresh (for 2016) Russian top five of the Forbes list (Mikhelson, Friedman, Usmanov, Potanin, Timchenko) - Only Potanin was born in Moscow, and the rest are precisely those who "someone once bought all these plants, factories, institutes" (Mikhail Mikhelson - Since 1987 he headed Kuibyshevtruboprovodstroy, in 1991 he transformed the trust into the private enterprise Nova.) and “dumped” from his “small homeland” to Moscow? And he hardly lives in it, preferring “London”, or even changing his citizenship altogether (Gennady Timchenko is a citizen of Finland) /info from forbes.ru /
2. And he also began to incite “shtetl separatism”:
So, gentlemen, Russian-Muscovites? Do you need Siberia? Or to hell with us? Get out however you want? We'll get out of it. But for now, the hatred of Siberians extends only to Moscow

-That is, in Moscow there lives some kind of “special breed of people - “Russians-Muscovites”, and in Siberia there is some kind of “special breed” - “Siberians” (both of them are not Russians, did I understand correctly?).
-And we are all now observing how the calls “Stop feeding Moscow” and “Stop feeding the outskirts” ended.
I also don’t like it when people in different regions receive different pay for equal work. Perhaps the tax distribution system is not entirely fair.
But we have CAPITALISM! And capitalism is not even “wild”, but “bureaucratic-oligarchic”. And he cannot be “fair”!
And the saddest thing is that this system has a (so revered by many) GUARANTOR! IMHO.
techie

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April 22 2016 05: 28

I didn’t feel delighted. I even breathed a sigh of relief when I returned home after 4 years (before that I only went on vacation and to New Year’s Eve). And the small fish business was successfully strangled by the Moscow monopolies. This was in 2002. Then Muscovites crushed the delivery of fish from the Far East to Moscow (and further to the central regions). Today, this tumor has spread and consumed the ENTIRE fishing business in the country, including fishing assets and logistics. So what, rejoice at their “successes”? This is not envy, this is precisely indignation, multiplied by the lack of opportunity to somehow slow down this process of seizing assets (selectively, the most promising) throughout the country. And not only in the fishing business, but in absolutely all areas of activity. Far from competitive methods. Not competitive at all.
polo

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April 22 2016 06: 02

solovald RU Today, 05:08 ↑
“There is no need to be silly and bullshit. The author is not talking about the fact that Omsk is not the capital, and Muscovites are radishes, but about the fact that the territories beyond the “ring” need to be developed, and not just get “various minerals.”
My friend, already warmer, almost learned a terrible secret - the Earth is someone’s giant mine...
STN

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April 22 2016 06: 09

It’s a pity that the first question to the president was about Omsk roads, and not about the lawlessness with taxes, when everything (!!!) is taken to the center (at the place of registration of the enterprise). And then it begins - your region is unprofitable, because of our boundless generosity - crumbs from the master's table. If the money earned would remain here, at least 50%, and no one would stand with an outstretched hand - and there would be roads, a metro, and an airport.
Next time let’s ask the president this question to each of the 100 million “provincials”. This is a flash mob! And there is no need to distort - we are not talking about “separation from Moscow.” Enough already, and so the Union was torn to shreds despite the referendum being held, illegally, without giving a damn about the opinion of the people!
Egen

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April 22 2016 06: 15

Well, not everything, but much as the author wrote... And - what? :) No one is offering real plans to get out of the situation (except in the USSR)
STN

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April 22 2016 06: 28

It’s a pity that the first question to the president was about Omsk roads, and not about the lawlessness with taxes, when everything (!!!) is taken to the center (at the place of registration of the enterprise). And then it begins - your region is unprofitable, because of our boundless generosity - crumbs from the master's table. If the money earned would remain here, at least 50%, and no one would stand with an outstretched hand - and there would be roads, a metro, and an airport.
Next time let’s ask the president this question to each of the 100 million “provincials”. This is a flash mob! And there is no need to distort - we are not talking about “separation from Moscow.” Enough already, and so the Union was torn to shreds despite the referendum being held, illegally, without giving a damn about the opinion of the people!
Evgtan

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April 22 2016 08: 19

I agree with the author! I myself live and work in Siberia at a once well-deserved, order-bearing metallurgical plant. which, thanks to periodically visiting organs (Effective managers), is completely destroyed. Of the full-cycle plant (from ore mining to finished rolled products), three workshops remained operational, the rest were destroyed. Equipment is cut and sold as scrap, specialists (engineers, highly qualified workers) are laid off. Well, where do you order uv. Muscovites, should we go to Moscow with you? Becoming an office plankton? Who seriously believes that nine women are capable of giving birth to a child in a month.
user3970

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April 22 2016 08: 25

People, if you move a little away from the painful topic of “Moscow and Zamkadye” and look at THIS a little differently, you become scared for the future. Yes, Moscow is a financial pump, sucking ALL the income of the rest of the country to itself. But what happens next with these sucked-up incomes? Rosneft (Sechin) - 20% owned by British Petroleum, put up for auction, Sibneft (Gazpromneft) - put up for auction, Gazprom - put up for auction, Aeroflot - put up for auction, Diamonds of Yakutia-Sakha - put up for auction... Rothschild fortune - Levites-Jews (who understands this) is 300 trillion dollars (in dollar equivalent) I didn’t describe myself. 300 trillion. The paths between the Rockefellers (wow, not Jews, Anglo-Saxons) have completely diverged. The Rockefellers still had the Federal Reserve Fund (FRS) and a printing press for the production of green paper, as well as the SGA with Canada and the Old World as territories. The Rothschilds (Levites-Jews, lest we forget) took their gold in the amount of 8 tons from Fort Knox and moved it to Shanghai (what do you hear about the local Shanghai financial exchange?). And they also relied on the new world passionaries (Gumilyov, hello!) China with its industry and Russia with its raw materials. Who now "rules" finance in Russia - Commercial banks, Bank "Russia" (Rottenbergs), Vekselbergs, etc.... And the Rothschilds close the financial chain. But, if we remember the West’s wish to reduce the human resources of the Russian population to an acceptable 500 million people needed to service the pipe, then the actions of the Russian authorities become understandable. This started under Gorbachev, under fucking it continued, and the GDP ends it. Facts: Commercialization and reduction of healthcare, education, agriculture. And don’t rely on GDP! He was appointed by Chubais (caretaker for Russia from the Veldeberg Club) on strictly specific conditions, which he must fulfill and does! The government does not obey the GDP - not its diocese! It is accountable to Chubais and further down the chain. I'm not saying this is good or bad. This is a given of the moment. The appearance of an unknown figure like Stalin can change the moment. Something like this.
1. Vadim237
  
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  April 22 2016 11: 14
  
  All the companies that you listed are supposedly for sale - they sell only 20% of the shares of these companies, and as for where all the funds go after they get to Moscow, they go to the accounts of companies that are engaged in production in the regions, taxes go to the state treasury, then the budget is formed from this money and it is distributed across all regions, as well as for financing: the army, intelligence services, healthcare, the space industry, agriculture, the pension fund, the national welfare fund, gold and foreign exchange reserves, the banking sector, salaries for public sector employees and for various projects throughout Russia, as an example - for the same construction of the Crimean bridge or the construction of a nuclear power plant, etc. - I hope I answered your question where the money goes.
uskrabut

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April 22 2016 08: 43

This topic concerns not only Siberia, everything beyond the Moscow Ring Road is exactly as in the article. Everything is logical - it was obtained cunningly....sing t.v.a.r. and the enterprise is for free, why invest in it, you can squeeze out all the juices, and then sell the equipment for scrap. So much for managers. If he had invested his hard-earned money and had to pay it off for 15-20 years, he would have maintained the enterprise in the best possible way, because it was his own, hard-earned, and not free.
Bersaglieri

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April 22 2016 09: 08

Similar “Moscow...chi” existed at the dawn of .ru-net. And then, in the early 200s, this comic opus by Z. Khashimov was born:

"...b

Live fat. His house is elite, his apartment is 500 meters away.
Standing on the balcony, spitting on the street. I have an impudent face,
fat, arrogant...

...the lascivious eyes run around.

The car I have is a Be-eM-Ve-seven. A greyhound rides, cuts everyone off,
overtakes in oncoming traffic. Works in the Office. The head of a -
Jew. Jew with oil and aluminum sold to Americans, workers' wages
They are clamping down, they don’t pay taxes, and all the money is taken offshore.

By the way, I only have green dollars. Ruble
never seen it in my life. In his office, he does nothing but
He's counting dollars, spitting at the monitor, and staring at the secretary on the desk.
Only if the Jewish boss comes, then he bends over to him.

Eat sushi with foie gras and cognac-whiskey only at Cool Taverns
washes it down. Dressed only in Boutiques. I'm wearing a tie
three hundred greens. And who is not dressed from the Boutique, and whose tie is not for three hundred
Grin, Be-eM-Ve spits on him from his window and doesn’t care about the person
counts.

b generally doesn’t consider anyone to be people, only others to her, and
there aren't very many of them. He doesn’t particularly like Ordinary People, he says “let’s come in large numbers”
here” and always deceives them.

And in the evening he goes to the Night Club, stealing dollars from Ordinary People
drink away In the nightclub - Fashionable Music, Striptease and Drugs.
Hanging out there with homosexuals and prostitutes, whiskey and cognac
drinks and snorts coke. And then he drives home drunk, with children on the way
presses, and the cops only salute him, because I have everything
captured. This is how he lives on people's money..."
NACC

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April 22 2016 09: 35

The article is fair and to the point. And this applies not only to Siberia. There are so many abandoned villages, fields, desolation and hopelessness everywhere.
Bramb

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April 22 2016 09: 50

Quote: s-t Petrov
Moscow is the capital of Russia. The author is enough of this envy

Yes, the capital. And it is precisely thanks to this status that additional money is allocated from the federal budget for its maintenance. How many? 20% of the country's total budget!!!
At the same time, 7% of the country’s population lives there. Those. In terms of population alone, THREE times more is spent on each Muscovite than on any other citizen!
What are these privileges for? Previously, there were the plants "Sickle and Molot", "ZIL", "AZLK", plant named after. S. Ordzhonekidze, "MShZ", bearing, etc. Those. Previously, Moscow was one of the industrial centers of the country. Not now. Those. Moscow does not produce material resources at all. Freeloaders!
The only thing left that is useful from Moscow for the country is education. Science Center, huh. True, this is already going away. The other day, a student from one of the elite universities told me, when I asked why he needed a smartphone: “I took a photo of the lecture or wrote it down - that’s all!” “And that’s it,” itit!!! The fact that the knowledge was somewhere outside his head remains the same, but he believes that “everything”, he is literate! )))
So, citizen, it’s not a matter of envy, but of ordinary justice: stop eating other people’s things!!!
1. Vadim237
  
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  April 22 2016 18: 55
  
  "That is, Moscow does not produce material resources from the word at all. Freeloaders!" -What are you saying - in Moscow and the Moscow region they produce everything from pins to spacecraft, there are thousands of factories, factories, hundreds of institutes and design bureaus - Moscow's GDP in 2014 amounted to 11,9 trillion rubles - 21,5% of total GDP Russia - well, who are the parasites here?
troyan

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April 22 2016 12: 33

There, in Moscow, we work three jobs to live with dignity.

Interestingly, the working day is 8 hours + 1 hour for lunch + travel to and from work is 2 hours (in Moscow, it will probably be longer for many). So how can you work three jobs??? Or this is how they work - they just register and receive money.
1. Freeman
  
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  April 22 2016 13: 33
  
  troyan RU Today, 12:33
  How can you work three jobs???
  
  I won’t say about three, but I personally worked on two. Schedule 2/2 for 12 hours in two places, i.e. seven days a week. But “it was the 90s, we survived as best we could.”
2. Bersaglieri
  
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  April 23 2016 08: 30
  
  Remotely. Works - they are different
troyan

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April 22 2016 12: 38

And the money really was found. The President said, and they found it. But we got lost somewhere else.

Well, the president said a lot of things, for example, he also said this:
2001 - Putin warned against housing and communal services reform being carried out at the expense of deteriorating living conditions of the population (ITAR-TASS, May 29, 2001)
2002 - Putin decided to allay citizens’ fears that the entire housing and communal services reform would come down to a bare increase in tariffs (Official website of the President of the Russian Federation, April 18
2002)
2003 - Putin: The housing and communal services problem cannot be solved by “raising administrative tariffs” (Russia TV channel, Vesti program, July 17, 2003)
2005 - Putin demanded to stop the “orgy” with housing and communal services (RIA Novosti, September 5, 2005)
2006 - Putin is dissatisfied with the increase in tariffs for housing and communal services (NTV TV channel, March 6, 2006)
2007 - Putin called for an end to the unjustified increase in housing and communal services tariffs (Vedomosti newspaper, October 1, 2007)
2008 - Putin: The growth rate of housing and communal services tariffs may be reduced (“RBC”, December 4, 2008)
2009 - Putin: Speculative increase in housing and communal services tariffs is unacceptable (Interfax, December 29, 2009)
2010 - Putin: Housing and communal services tariffs should not increase by more than 25 percent
(ITAR-TASS, March 22, 2010)
2011 - Putin demands that officials be severely punished for increasing housing and communal services tariffs (RIA Novosti, January 18, 2011). Housing and communal services cannot be reformed at the expense of the population, Putin said (RIA Novosti, May 23, 2011). Putin: No one should inflate prices in housing and communal services (RIA Novosti, November 2, 2011)
2012 - Putin: We will put things in order in the housing and communal services sector (Official website of the candidate for the post of President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin)
2013 - Putin: Payment must be economically justified and socially fair (February 25, meeting on housing and communal services issues)
2014 - Russian President Vladimir Putin promised to stop the lawlessness of management companies in the housing and communal services sector... (“Direct Line with the President”, April 17)
Penguin

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April 22 2016 12: 48

80 or even more percent of the money is in Moscow, and no one will convince me that Muscovites are more hard-working or more cultured or anything else than the rest of RUSSIA. And no one will force all Russians to sincerely love Moscow. The majority do not like Moscow and Muscovites, to put it mildly. Of course, this is not because they are bad or anything else, but still our government has something to think about.
Londa

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April 22 2016 13: 49

This is exactly what the author wanted, so that you all would quarrel here, and not only here((((((((((
von_Tilsit

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April 22 2016 14: 47

People, calm down. Moscow has always been a special city, a capital city. And therefore the standard of living there was higher than in the homespun province. But the greatest contrast between Moscow and the provinces was achieved after 1991. Why? It's simple! The Soviet Union collapsed not as a result of the seething of you-know-what, not somewhere in Omsk or Uryupinsk, but as a result of mass demonstrations in Moscow. Therefore, the standard of living in Moscow is much higher than in the rest of Russia. Everything is reasonable - a well-fed capital is the support of the regime. The problem is that while federal money is being used to build new heated bike paths in Moscow, in the village of Kukuevo some “baba Nina” is dying of a hypertensive attack due to the fact that the local first aid station was closed “due to unprofitability.” And I don’t need to talk about “you have to work and the money will appear”! My salary as a teacher with a workload of 38 hours a week is 30 thousand rubles. In Moscow, with the same amount of work, I would receive 90 thousand rubles. Maybe we can quote the Constitution of the Russian Federation about the “right to equality”, etc.??
1. Bersaglieri
  
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  April 22 2016 18: 25
  
  Teacher? Would get 90 at a private school. In the state - 50-55
  1. troyan
    
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    April 22 2016 18: 36
    
    Quote: Bersaglieri
    Teacher? Would get 90 at a private school. In the state - 50-55
    
    Well, it’s like 30 and 50 for the same work - the difference, after all. Or is 20 insignificant?
    1. Bersaglieri
      
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      April 22 2016 20: 17
      
      It's worth considering the cost of living.
pamero

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April 22 2016 14: 56

That's right man. It’s some kind of disgusting thing for people from Siberia to even get out on vacation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How much is a plane ticket? And the monthly income in the family is 43000 thousand Russian rubles!!!! The leadership in Moscow is not for people (citizens) but for some stratum of people!!!
PRepod RViA

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April 22 2016 15: 12

The article certainly struck a chord! Every year I travel around Russia on vacation because my mother is from Saratov, my father is from Rostov, and compared to the rest of the country, Moscow is a feast during the plague.
If we take a business, then no matter who we communicate with, everyone notes the “loop-like nature” of resolving any issues in the capital, starting with a simple payment of insurance for a car accident, ending with the supply of metal to a construction site from Mukhoska to Zapupyrlovsk: please wait for a response to an appeal to the head office in Moscow.
As for public administration, everything is the same. All power, money, business, everything in one place. On the one hand, this is not bad: our state has always achieved greater success precisely by concentrating power in one hand, but what is happening now, in my opinion, is too much. We waste time, money, pay incomprehensible interest to Moscow, sometimes for no reason at all!
I am definitely for a strong, united country, but with such a stratification of society into rich and poor, with such a difference in the standard of living between the center and the “gallery,” soon cries of “Stop feeding Moscow!” will be the most harmless expression of discontent outside the Moscow Ring Road.
I respect Putin very much, but the country is still under manual control. Issues on the ground are quickly resolved once a year, after a direct line! Rave! Of course, the president’s first task is foreign policy (everything is in order here), but why hasn’t a team devoted to the Motherland been assembled to resolve issues within the country? Oh, yes - this is Medvedev’s business, but they have been changing for a long time, and things are still there. No footage? There are traitors, slackers all around, no one to choose from?! It is clear that it is impossible to quickly produce smart managers, but there is almost no progress. There are a few in the highest authorities, such as the RF Ministry of Defense, in the local ones - there is a new manager in Tula and that’s it. What prevents, over the course of 10-15 years, from purposefully selecting candidates for managers for the outback (including psychological ones), taking into account personal qualities and competence, and not belonging to families and clans, training and educating them from scratch, and then, based on the results, promoting them "up"?
Of course, I am not a political scientist, not a specialist in state power, I am a simple warrior and my calculations will most likely seem incompetent to someone, but the principle of “divide and rule has not been canceled.” I propose that the entire top government be moved from Moscow to the geographic center of Russia (the Kazakhs were able to, they destroyed the capital), and business and production be forcibly dispersed throughout the country, so that taxes are paid where they actually work. I hear cries of “well, you’re a dreamer!”, but in reality it’s only a matter of WILL and PERSONNEL. Putin has the will and this is a fact, and the solution to the personnel issue, see above.
Bramb

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April 22 2016 17: 15

Quote: troyan
Well, the president said a lot of things, for example, he also said this:

Well, you shouldn’t just give a minus for this. and drive a nail into the head at 250!
A person speaks his opinion depending on external conditions! Conditions change - priorities change!
A simple example: if you have enough bread at home, do you tell your wife “go buy some bread”? And when he is not there?
That's it!!!
And here is a one-sided situation without reference to external conditions.
Conclusion: either you are D...A complete, or a provocateur and your place is in prison.
1. troyan
  
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  April 22 2016 18: 45
  
  Quote: Bramb
  Well, you shouldn’t just give a minus for this. and drive a nail into the head at 250!
  
  Did you even read the text except the first line? Or didn’t he give you a nail?
  Quote: Bramb
  A person speaks his opinion depending on external conditions! Conditions change - priorities change!
  
  External conditions (EXTERNAL!) may change, but what do they have to do with prices for housing and communal services? And yes, some statements are still stable, despite the “change in external conditions.” There is a contradiction, however.
  Quote: Bramb
  And here is a one-sided situation without reference to external conditions.
  
  So do “external conditions” have an effect or not?
  Quote: Bramb
  Conclusion: either you are D...A complete, or a provocateur and your place is in prison.
  
  1. Personal insult; 2. It’s not up to you to decide; 3. Do you call quotes from your beloved guarantor a provocation? So maybe this is the place for you? 4. And finally, look in the mirror, maybe you’ll just see your “conclusion”?
cedar

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April 22 2016 17: 43

Another author is in the position of observer of the collapse of Russia. He sees nothing further than Moscow. He complains, advises, but stubbornly avoids a military point of view on what is happening with Russia and the peoples inhabiting it, be it in Moscow or in Siberia. And this despite the fact that he posted his opus on MILITARY REVIEW!
Dear author, please give us a military review of the economic, financial and information-psychological problems of Russian society that arose after defeat of the USSR in the Cold WarOnly with this approach will it be possible to eliminate the uncertainty imposed on us by the Western occupiers and colonialists, i.e. the chaos of our existence, to see and identify real goals and ways to achieve them to get out of this Western TRAP.
It should be noted that the defeat of the USSR in the Cold War is deeply parallel to many authors and commentators of articles on VO. At the same time, they analyze and give recommendations on what to do, how to live in this virtual world, but the only task is to understand how to WIN this hybrid WAR in real life!
“For the last decade, Russia, and a number of other countries, have been living in conditions of the so-called hybrid war unleashed by the United States and its allies. This the war is being waged on different fronts - political, economic, informational, as well as legal. Moreover, in recent years it has moved into a qualitatively new phase of open confrontation. ...The main elements of the economic impact were trade and financial sanctions, dumping wars on the hydrocarbon market, as well as currency wars..."
From an article by the head of the Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin.
See the root!
Gvas1174

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April 22 2016 17: 50

I remember my trip last year from Kazakhstan to Omsk...
I was always indignant that something was wrong in Astana and it wasn’t like that, and in my native Kokchetau (Kokshetau) there was always and will always be a reason to “shout” about cultural cultures. But having arrived in Omsk and just oh...l, and that’s all While I was there, I couldn’t believe that it was possible to turn a beautiful city into such a garbage dump, where instead of streets and rivers, garbage was blown by the wind, so you had to stomp a block or more to throw out a damn bull. The city has always been considered rich, both in history and in people, and his appearance.
no money?!?! but the mayor has an elevator in a three-story mansion, I suspect it’s not only him, and he goes hand in hand with crime. And I’m sure that many local princes care not about the good of the region, but about their pockets , hence the troubles.
Most of Russia's internal problems are due to officials and their free interpretation of their rights and responsibilities.
It’s worth bringing back the old, proven practice of confiscating property from those who committed a fine and were caught, otherwise everywhere you look, the chinnush’s relatives are entirely “dolar money muleneurs” and everything is honestly earned... honestly! - a drop in the ocean, and there is so much work to do.
I upvoted the author, because being sometimes subjective in particulars, he raised the right topic.
Bersaglieri

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April 22 2016 17: 57

And as for salaries...Well, working for 20000 rubles/month is simply pointless. Yes, and for 60000 too. If a person feeds his family in Russia, even if he has his own home (not rented), a normal life now requires an income of at least 90-100000 rubles/month.
South Ural

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April 22 2016 18: 30

Alas, the question was not understood quite correctly by some of the audience! It's not about some areas or regions. The point is the lack of a systematic approach to solving state issues, the absence of a truly state approach and position of the bureaucrats, their parochialism and feeding. So, only the OS can really change the situation. And it needs to be changed radically - everything needs to be turned upside down!
1. troyan
  
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  April 22 2016 18: 47
  
  Quote: South Ural
  The point is the lack of a systematic approach to solving government issues
  
  No, there is just a systematic approach.
  Quote: South Ural
  in the absence of a truly state approach and position of the bureaucracy, in its localism and feeding.
  
  Who does it depend on?
Axon

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April 22 2016 20: 38

nasty article
Kemerov

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April 22 2016 22: 28

I worked for several years in a financial company whose head office was in the United States. I came to the Moscow additional office. Until I drank a few bottles with the Muscovites, they treated me with hatred, as a representative of the Department. Salary 18-20 thousand RUBLES, problems like everyone else. We even became friends within a couple of weeks.

We live according to the Constitution and other laws dictated by the US in the 90s, and the Central Bank of Russia and all the wealth of the country belong to the same mattresses and island monkeys. I could be a little wrong, but the overall picture is not very cheerful...
Technician72

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April 22 2016 23: 49

Quote: Vadim237
From the age of 14, I saved because already at that age I started working part-time, and at the age of 16 I mastered working on lathes and milling machines.

The milling machine is strong!
1. Vadim237
  
  +1
  
  April 23 2016 18: 25
  
  I got into the habit of writing with the letter Y
maai

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April 23 2016 00: 59

To spite all the filthy provocateurs, ordinary fools, various liberals, the author, imperial spies and other bourgeois bastards.
...
My country is widespread,
There are many forests, fields and rivers in it!
I do not know another such country,
Where man breathes so freely.
From Moscow to the outskirts,
From the southern mountains to the northern seas,
Man passes as master
The vast Motherland...
... Bite your elbows - you won't turn out to be freaks. ))) Can't wait.!..
Felix-A

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April 23 2016 06: 17

Yes, the author wrote correctly, but this doesn’t concern only Siberia, in the middle zone, what’s going on, here in Samara, the mayor marks “children’s matinees” at 10 lyams, everything is off the hook, the governor lays tiles that “float”, young people works mainly as hucksters in boutiques and all sorts of McDucks, all you hear are victorious reports and declarations
Gertrudovich

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April 23 2016 07: 09

I completely agree with the author, I live in Tomsk, the land is rich, oil, gas, rare earths, all kinds of giant companies, but only one Gazprom subsidiary pays taxes to the local budget, everything else is in Moscow. All enterprises died in the 90s, thanks to Yeltsin and former governor Kress, only a few are working. This attitude towards Siberia on the part of the state is disgusting, it’s all unpatriotic, but it’s true.
Alweer

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April 23 2016 07: 17

Quote: Tusv
Quote: DMoroz
Is there life beyond the Moscow Ring Road?

The amazing thing. The highest average RFP in Russia, thousands of miles from the Moscow Ring Road, in Petropavlovsk in Kamchatka. Next are the closest zamkadysh - Odintsovo, Lyubertsy, Zheleznodorozhsk.
My sister came from Krasnoyarsk last year. She said that it’s not a fig, you do not know how to live in your Moscow. What time! I believe her

Have you been there?
Lens

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April 23 2016 07: 35

I am not a citizen of Russia, but on related matters I periodically visit both the Belokamennaya and Yaroslavl regions. Thus, with his uncluttered gaze, he always noted the splendor and luxury of the capital and the darned simplicity of the village of his relatives. Moreover, Muscovites swaggeringly answered my questions about the difference, saying that I need to drink less! And I look at my relatives - they don’t seem to drink...
149GB

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April 23 2016 08: 01

This is not about snickering Muscovites, but about the fact that the Far East has been left to its own devices! I grew up in the Magadan region, and would never leave this fertile land of taiga, mushrooms, berries, fish, etc. Clean air!!! But they squeezed us out and left us there! No salaries, no work(((And the Chinese have long been overwhelmed by the sea, nothing scares them. At this rate, we will definitely waste our barn of wealth(((Putin ow!
1. puffnutiy
  
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  April 25 2016 16: 25
  
  There is an opinion that to return the Far East at this stage will require simply titanic efforts (
149GB

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April 23 2016 08: 03

In Samara they say about bricks that a brick factory won the tender for road repairs! But I think that’s what they say everywhere!
asher

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April 23 2016 09: 31

A lot of good things have been said about Muscovites, and vice versa. I meet these Muscovites when I am on vacation in Sochi and they seem to be normal people, but, as a rule, they earn much more in the same positions as we do in Siberia. But this is not the main thing. The main reason why I, a Siberian, hate Muscovites is for the riot that they started in 1991 in support of Yeltsin. They, the Muscovites, placed new masters - the capitalists - on the heads of the Soviet people. All major capitalists are registered in Maskva.
1. puffnutiy
  
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  April 25 2016 16: 32
  
  The question is why no one spoke out against it? I don’t remember any rallies of thousands in protest of the collapse of the USSR, nor any reports of how military units, indignant at this decision, came out of their positions with the intention of moving towards Moscow. Everyone just closed their eyes and turned away. I still ask the officers, the communists, the police who were 18-40 years old at that time, why didn’t anyone go to defend the USSR? And many people look away. People are silent. Everyone aimed at the rotten party leadership, but ended up in the USSR.
Kemerov

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April 23 2016 10: 02

Who started a riot for a drunk, well, a couple of thousand. Now these same bourgeois creatures are bawling in Novosibirsk. They demand the annexation of Siberia and the collapse of Russia.

It seems that no one noticed my last message, or here, on VO, as on the forum, all for Americans and sons of David. The words and emotions seem to be correct, but in fact they are rotten.
My work partner gets 25 in plowing. He complains that in Perm it was no big deal that he received 30 at the plant as a Kipo worker. So who drove him here? I came to my brother, and he is a dentist for more than 300 thousand. Who studied for what.
Twilight

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April 23 2016 12: 30

The article has advantages and disadvantages in SIBERIA, if there is a large production, then the jurisdiction of the Western Federal District or offshore, where will the money come from LOCALLY!!!
Beard31

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April 23 2016 13: 51

Chubais’s wife once said in an interview that the Russian Federation will collapse in 2020. That's what Ryzhik told her, by the way. So the wild exploitation of the regions of the country is a way to fragment it and an excellent basis for the beginning of separatism in the regions for the subsequent separation of the regions from the administrative center.
Pomeranian

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April 23 2016 14: 38

Dear author! I am ready to subscribe to your every word. I perfectly understand the “class hatred” of hard workers who toil for three rubles at a factory bought by “Moscow or St. Petersburg” factories. let them buy it if they have the money, but only in 9 cases out of 10, the purchase by “boys in ties” does not bring anything good to either the people or the region. They buy it, suck out all the juices, and then throw it away. Locust, in a word.
Galleon

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April 23 2016 14: 53

Everything is written correctly in the article. All profitable enterprises have been taken over by Moscow and St. Petersburg, and the regions are in debt. My brother works as a railway worker in Khabarovsk - in the “Far Eastern branch of the Moscow Railway”. My friend, the city of Rybinsk, has a hole in its budget of 540 million, although NPO Saturn does everything for the country, but Moscow makes the profit. And the city is forced to sell everything it can - for example, the city library in an ancient building in the center...
I live in Moscow myself, I came for work 20 years ago, and I stayed there, but I can’t calmly look at this drinking juice from the country. In foreign policy, everything seems to be according to conscience, but inside the country, with ourselves...
andrew42

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April 23 2016 15: 33

Here's an interesting point. Judging by the abundance of comments in support of the article, 80% agree with the author. Plus, you don’t have to be Nostradamus to determine that 95% of those who are NOT on the Internet (many just plow, but many are not and don’t exist!) are also FOR. So why the hell do you ask 70% of the country vote for “united Russia”, for those who joined it like “Spravorossov” and “LDPR”? Why don’t at least 40-45 percent vote for the same communists? - PARADOX! What do we want with such an expression of will? This means that the Moscow “eaters” of various party stripes (I’m not talking about the servants, I’m talking about the “masters of life”), which means they manage to perfectly soar the brains of the overwhelming majority of the population of the MKAD region. In reality, it turns out that I, who passed my Komsomol ticket in 1990 and bought into Gorbachevism until August 19, 1991, now vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation year after year! And a poor villager who is robbed in 50% of cases stubbornly gives for the heirs of Yeltsin-Gaidar, for the current “managers” and “issue solvers” from the capital occupied by parasites. How shoud I understand this? If only there was no war? So it will be anyway. The question is what condition we will be in when the current surge in the use of the old Soviet military-technical reserve stops. They will still try to divide the Heartland (that is, us). Well, not Africa! In BV, only the outskirts of Damascus remained “undivided”. It turns out that even in the presence of such an alternative force as the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (which still exists), the brains of many are not able to realize that they need to squeak and vote for the “enemies of managerialism.” As the Negrito character Malaya said in Oliver Stone’s film “Platoon”: “Free your head from the shit, and your ass will free itself.” What, is it scary to fall back into the scoop? Well, yes, I really don’t feel drawn to that scoop, I still remember the everyday life of those times. But, first of all, who said that everything would be the same? And, secondly, those who have a salary of 15 thousand are not afraid of any scoop. So what's the deal?
Old warrior

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April 23 2016 16: 53

"We are Muscovites!
What to do dear friend.
Fate throw us to the North or to the South,
We have All Glory everywhere
In the Soul there is MOSCOW and the Golden-Domed Kremlin!”
A. Balmont.

Listen, you fool, where did you see among these “businesslike” and “all-knowing” Muscovites? They were completely ready to “conquer” Moscow. You have forgotten, creatures, “That the enemy will never be able to make Your Head bow!”
Moscow and Russia can only be divided by either a scoundrel or, God forgive me, an intellectual, which is basically the same thing (V.I.Lenin.PSS.t.52 pp.47-48. 1978. ed. Political Literature .)

Moscow is an INTEGRATED PART of RUSSIA, and whoever tells me otherwise, I swear, I will personally clean his snout. This I, as a Muscovite, guarantee to you, with all Proletarian Consciousness.
Technician72

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April 23 2016 17: 05

Quote: askort154
About the eternal question in Russia - roads. I spent many vacations in "autotours", a hobby. In a nutshell.
Regions with the same climatic conditions, but the quality of roads is different. Samara, Saratov, Volgograd, Krasnodar - good roads only in the Krasnodar region.

Are Krasnodar and Samara regions with the same climatic conditions? Funny!
Yarhann

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April 23 2016 18: 20

Another whining scoop has woken up who wants to take everything and divide it, judging by his mood. if people leave the places where they previously and now extract resources, it is probably because now resource extraction technologies have greatly improved and a lot of labor is simply no longer needed, and therefore there is no work. No one will invest money in the cities of Siberia - there is simply no point in this - except for science cities and cities associated with the extraction of resources, such habitats of people are simply not competitive - it is much more profitable to invest money in cities with a milder climate where there are all sectors of the national economy and where there is always there will be life. Therefore, whining about the fact that Siberia is dying, etc., etc. - well, stop carrying this Soviet nonsense already - just as all the Soviet non-competitive factories were closed, the same will happen with similar cities. I think for a normal standard of living, the population of such cities should be significantly reduced and only the service sector should remain and those who are engaged in scientific production as well as those associated with the extraction of resources - everyone else has nothing to do there - just as it happened with villages throughout the Russian Federation - there is no need now a village, what is the meaning of a village - food is now produced by large agricultural holdings and so on all over the world - they do it better and in the right quantities, while at the same time they know how to minimize weather and natural risks, but the village cannot do this.
The biggest problem we have is in the heads of people, many of whom are waiting for something, sitting in all sorts of holes in our vastness and thinking that mana from heaven will come and some kind guy will open an enterprise in each specific hole and hire him to work and will pay him like in Moscow, otherwise and more. This will never happen guys, no one will ever come to your holes simply because there is nothing to catch there - the investor goes where there is a human resource (highly qualified) and a consumer base (the same highly qualified human resource who receives good money for wages). As a rule, all kinds of holes cannot boast of the professionalism of their human resources, and if they do exist, they are so highly specialized that it is easier to lure these specialists to work in Moscow or some other large metropolis than to try to organize something in this hole far away.
You want to earn a lot and consume a lot - but damn guys, in order to do this you need to have high qualifications and be competitive in the labor market.
Stop waiting for the scoop - yes, there is an option like in 17, it was again to destroy the whole country and take everything and divide it - but this way has already been passed - you need to learn to live and develop in a competitive environment and note not only regarding foreign markets but also your own - it’s time to get off the stoves of the ivan and start moving not only your ass but also your head - now is the time that you can’t earn much with your hands, you need to put your head to work.
Freeman

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April 23 2016 21: 59

Quote: andrew42
Moscow “eaters” of various party stripes (I’m not talking about the servants, I’m talking about the “masters of life”), which means they manage to perfectly soar the brains of the overwhelming majority of the population of the MKAD region.

Moreover, they have managed this since the times of “glasnost and perestroika.”

Quote: andrew42
So why the hell do you ask 70% of the country vote for “united Russia”, for those who joined it like “Spravorossov” and “LDPR”? Why don’t at least 40-45 percent vote for the same communists? - PARADOX!

Alas, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has become simply “a group of comrades who privatized the brand.” Like the entire “systemic opposition” (Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Socialist Revolutionaries), its top leaders have settled comfortably in the State Duma, receiving “goodies” from the authorities for “parliamentary activities” (i.e., controlling dissatisfaction with the regime by “criticizing” it, but actually supporting it ), occasionally throwing “crumbs from the master’s table” into grassroots organizations.
The current "leaders" of these "parties" do not need "responsibility", they only need "power" (more precisely, "to be in power"), so they will never win "elections".
And in order to control the “spontaneous protest”, the so-called “non-systemic opposition” was created, all these “Navalnys”, “Kasyanovs”, “Sobchaks”
"," "swamp", "white ribbon" and other "liberals". As soon as citizens, outraged by the "results of the parliamentary elections", gathered for a rally on Sakharov Avenue, figures aptly nicknamed the "mink opposition" immediately pulled up there. And to the notorious " Bolotnaya was led by “scumbags” who deliberately caused provocation and unrest. And this is not the first time the authorities have performed this trick, remember “Manezhnaya”. And those who were “especially dull” were shown “Maidan”.

Quote: andrew42
And a poor villager who is robbed in 50% of cases stubbornly gives for the heirs of Yeltsin-Gaidar, for the current “managers” and “issue solvers” from the capital occupied by parasites. How shoud I understand this?

And it’s very simple. They “explain” to him that if the “wrong”, or rather “unagreed” candidate wins, then the “subsidies” to the region will become even smaller and he, as a “state employee,” will be robbed even more. And even if a “communist” wins in some region, this does not mean that this was not preceded by a “division of portfolios.” "Vertical of power" you know.
DPN

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April 23 2016 22: 09

The older generation who lived in the USSR, one might say, managed to live almost in communism, everything was worth a penny. Now guys, capitalism, it needs slaves at the dawn of this capitalism, Zhirinovsky said that you people will never live like WE. The people bought us for money, now all we have to do is cry and wait for the coming of the new LENIN, but not Putin, he is the same capitalist. True, thanks to him for the CRIMEA.
Drlivsi

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April 23 2016 22: 46

Quote: Thrall
Uv. author, ask on the next "Direct Line" Putin to move the capital of Russia from Moscow to Omsk.

Yes, my friend, you’ve read a lot of science fiction!
Freeman

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April 23 2016 23: 49

Quote: uwzek
try to gracefully answer the question, why are most Russian corporations, whose boards are located in Moskau, and thousands of their workers, who sometimes plow more than 12 hours a day, scattered throughout Russia, are scared to pay taxes to the budget of the capital?

Can I try? I’ll say right away that I’m not an “oligarch”, not a “businessman” or an “economist” - I’m a simple Muscovite, a worker.
Many people love Putin because he “raised Russia from its knees.” I agree, he has merits and the main one is that he filled the federal budget by forcing the “owners” of corporations to pay taxes. But at what cost did he achieve this? He simply took the “easy way” and forced them to register their “head offices” in Moscow, right next door, to make it easier to control. Accordingly, according to the law, part of these taxes is transferred to the Moscow budget. Not fair? But this is how the system that Putin built (or the “clan” that he represents) works.
But besides this “freebie”, Moscow itself produces a lot, despite the fact that many industrial enterprises are also collapsed and bankrupt - “ZIL”, “Sickle and Hammer”, these are among the latest and largest, and the smaller ones cannot be counted. Their new “owners,” as well as throughout the country, prefer to do “business” on rent (trade, offices, warehouses). Only military-industrial complex enterprises (both production and science) survive with difficulty; the remaining ones balance “on edges."
And about “unfair wages.” I also don’t like that a “hard worker” in Omsk earns less for the same job than I do in Moscow. But I didn’t envy him when in Soviet times he could earn more than me due to “regional allowances.” But now the state system has changed, the capitalist’s goal is personal enrichment, and not social protection of the population.
And any authorities in Russia try to provide the capital better than the regions (why, I think there is no need to explain?).
Old warrior

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April 24 2016 00: 00

For the especially stupid. Try to imagine Russia without Moscow... and now Moscow without Russia... well, how did you imagine...? No? That's why I can't do it.
cedar

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April 24 2016 06: 15

Quote: Old Warrior
For the especially stupid. Try to imagine Russia without Moscow... and now Moscow without Russia... well, how did you imagine...? No? That's why I can't do it.

Forgotten Siberia...
python82

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April 24 2016 11: 59

The picture is clear: Muskvichs, stop with lordly ways, and it’s enough to lecture the Siberians. A businessman from Maskva, this is already a cliche: a bribe, vodka and baths with women, and, of course, a trunk, and sometimes a container with loot. There are no big reforms in sight. In Europe, in enemy Europe, Russia is not judged by the Siberians, since the Siberians do not have 50 thousand € for brands.. I also noticed: And in wars, Muscovites sit in headquarters and bunkers (Khankala with a 4-meter fence is something!). They are in the forefront, where the state order is the sale of tired “tickets” for participation in the competition. This, guys, is 5 million, for the small “Serdyukov-Vasilieva”. Whatever! Masyanya, tie your belts and scarves tighter. Liberals or whoever will suck up the Siberians, but we are naive, and there will be no one to protect and feed you in the third millennium.
Undermined ustoev

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April 24 2016 12: 18

Quote: yehat
There should be no subsidized regions. shouldn't be at all. If this is, then something is already wrong! Even territories such as Alaska or the tundra territories of Siberia may well be profitable. If the region has no opportunities to live without subsidies, it is necessary to change conditions, change taxes, a management system, etc., in order to turn the economy on its head.

This is how such regions bring profit, but not to you. Did you want private ownership of the means of production? Well, go ahead, enjoy your health. Haven't you read smart books, but have you listened to schizophrenics on TV? Well, what can you do, without a sucker, life is bad. There are not enough candle factories for everyone under capitalism. Smart people proved this a century and a half ago.
Freeman

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April 24 2016 15: 22

Quote: python82
The picture is clear: Muskvichs, stop with lordly ways, and it’s enough to lecture the Siberians. A businessman from Maskva, this is already a cliche: a bribe, vodka and baths with women, and, of course, a trunk, and sometimes a container with loot.

Instead of a thousand words. N.V.Gogol >

Bobchinsky. Well, I have a very humble request.
Khlestakov. What, about what?
Bobchinsky. I humbly ask you, when you go to St. Petersburg, tell all the various nobles there: senators and admirals, that, your Excellency, Pyotr Ivanovich Bobchinsky lives in such and such a city. Just say: Pyotr Ivanovich Bobchinsky lives.
Khlestakov. Very good.
Bobchinsky. Yes, if the sovereign has to do this, then tell the sovereign that, your Imperial Majesty, Pyotr Ivanovich Bobchinsky lives in such and such a city.
Khlestakov. Very good.
puffnutiy

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April 25 2016 14: 49

Quote: Aspid 86
Everyone should go and vote for the communists

Nothing will change if the communists come to power. In Moldova, the communists were in power for 8 years. Eight! And where is the Moldovan economic miracle? Where do we see Moldovan social justice? Okay, so the communists came to power. President, let's say Zyuganov. What's next? How do you think they will raise the country? By what forces? The question is primarily about real constitutional possibilities.

IMHO, ideology alone is not enough for everything to immediately become good.
Kemerov

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April 26 2016 23: 38

According to the psychology of a crowd or herd, its representatives, feeling themselves to be part of the herd, divide everyone around them into the same groups. Groups can be divided by nationality, education, place of work, residence, etc.

Each person is individual, regardless of whether he is a Muscovite, a Leningrad resident, a Sakhalin resident or someone else. I lived in different places and divided people into decent, honest, friendly or evil, deceitful, with all sorts of addictions... Muscovites live on the run, but that’s their problem.