VRU initiative: rename Ukraine to Russia, and Russia - to Muscovy

February 19 2016 295

Ukrainian people's deputies broke out another bill that allows you to doubt the mental health of the legislators I LIE. Rada deputies Oksana Korchinskaya and Andrei Lozovoy left with lawmaking initiative to rename the two states. According to Lozovoy and Korchinskaya, Ukraine needs to be renamed into Russia, and Russia itself into Muscovy. Attention is drawn to the fact that such an initiative was born in the parliamentary committee on culture and spirituality.

VRU initiative: rename Ukraine to Russia, and Russia - to Muscovy

Ukrainian people's deputies declare that Russia is not worthy of being called Russia, since Kievan Rus "has nothing to do with the Russian Federation within its present borders." The Spiritual and Cultural Committee proposes “to remove the original name” from the “aggressor” country and give it the territory that today is called Ukraine.

If, in the order of delirium, an initiative registered in the Rada in 2015, and which has passed even an anti-corruption test, is ever supported, then it turns out that Ukrainians will have to turn into Russians ...

It should be noted that the bill also provides for a fine for those citizens of the country who will continue to call Ukraine Ukraine, and not Russia.

This is not the first attempt to declare the need to rename Ukraine. Previously, one of the Ukrainian mayors suggested using the name Ukraine-Russia for the country. Then the Ukrainian politicians came out with the initiative to change places of colors on the flag of the country.

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dchegrinec

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19 February 2016 11: 22

We need to pay less attention to monkeys. The more we look and listen to them, the more it turns them on!
In..

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19 February 2016 11: 56

The “country of poop” has only poop in its brain..
Peaceful Basmach

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19 February 2016 12: 13

Yes, let’s just rename Kyiv to Shchenevmerledyansk!
Laughter, that's all.
drags33

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19 February 2016 12: 21

Those living in the territory of former Ukraine (there is no such state anymore!!!) urgently need good psychiatrists in large numbers. URGENTLY!!! Glory to Ukraine...
Aleksey888

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19 February 2016 12: 34

"AND FOREIGNERS ENVIOUSLY CALL HER RASHKA! Who would have thought...?
venedofruss

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19 February 2016 12: 41

I'm interested in history. Here's what I know.

Kievan Rus began not from Kyiv, but from Ladoga, where Rurik came in the 9th century. Prince Oleg (there is an opinion that he is a relative of Rurik or a governor) included Kyiv in an already existing state, which ALREADY included the future Novgorod, Smolensk, Rostov, Polotsk lands.

Kievan Rus was called Kievan Rus; firstly, according to the city of Kyiv, which became the capital of the state, since it was advantageously and close to Byzantium, a major trading partner of Rus', and secondly, to distinguish Kievan Rus from other RUSSIA. For example, in Western medieval chronicles Rus' is often mentioned, and this is not Kievan Rus, but Rus', which was located in the northeast of modern Germany, cities such as Berlin, Dresden, Altenburg (Stargard initially) are located on the lands of the former Slavs (Obodrites, Varins, Lyutichs , Sorbs, Rugs, they are also Ruyans, they are also Rus), or rather the Wends, as the Germans called them and still call them (indigenous Slavs still live in Germany - the Lusatian Sorbs). By the way, the German surnames Leibniz, Doenitz, Bülow, Virchow are originally Slavic).

The Ukrainian coat of arms - a trident - is a falcon flying down, a sign of Rurik, which comes from the Obodrite princes, the Slavs who lived in the modern state of Mecklenburg in northeastern Germany. In Obodritian the falcon was called rereg, hence the name Rurik.

The word Rus' is a collective word (plural). In the singular, RUSAK was used (compare with Pole, Slavak), before that RUSIN (that was the name of all the inhabitants of Kievan Rus, remember the Transcarpathian Rusyns). Later it became RUSSIAN, and before that the most ancient original form was RUG. The replacement of G with S is associated with a feature of Slavic languages. See: Praga - Prazhsky - u PraZe (in Belarusian), prince - princess - princely, leg - leg - noZe (in Belarusian).
From here:
- the island of Rügen (Ruyan, in Russian fairy tales Buyan) (north-eastern Germany) - the island of Rugov
- Western medieval chroniclers called Princess Olga the Queen of the Rugs
- the wife of Prince Vladimir the Saint was Rogneda, daughter of the Polotsk Russian prince Rogvolod (the one who owns rugs)
In general, there are 4 forms of our name (connected with the peculiarity of Slavic languages):
- rus
- grew up
- friend
- horn

They took our city of Kyiv, took the coat of arms of our princes
Alexey-74

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19 February 2016 12: 44

To propose on behalf of the LDPR party (I think Zhirinovsky will only support) to submit a proposal to the State Duma - to agree with the Verkhovna Rada, but with the condition that Ukraine be renamed after joining the Russian Federation, but as for Muscovy, this is not correct at all, after all, it’s not the 13th century.. ..., we occupy 1/6 of the land on the planet.
Luckyjone

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19 February 2016 12: 52

Fools' Ball
square

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19 February 2016 13: 03

Noteworthy is the fact that such an initiative was born in the Verkhovna Rada Committee on Culture and Spirituality.
Whatever the culture and spirituality, such is the offer. I wonder if after the renaming, according to their national security strategy, they themselves will be their main enemy? Well, at least they won’t lie here.
bannik

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19 February 2016 13: 11

Ukraine - is it Russia?! Western curators are in a stupor!
Conscience

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19 February 2016 13: 42

then the ARU will be renamed the Brain of NaSRU.
rus-5819

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19 February 2016 13: 55

Quote: Sensatus
And they said that Ukraine is not Russia.

Now everything will be in its place: since they are Scattered, then the form “aggressor” is conciliatory towards them. They trumpeted this all over Europe.
But “Muscovy” did not attack them and the “separatists”! Donbass could not help with troops. Just physically her until now did not exist!!
bannik

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19 February 2016 14: 05

Quote: Alexander Romanov
Quote: Sensatus
And they said that Ukraine is not Russia.

Well, here you need to understand who is sitting in Parliament.

If the “establishment” does not bring in revenue, it is not the sign that needs to be changed, but the “girls,” which is what the Western owners of the “establishment” seem to be actively doing now! And the “pranks” with renaming (IMHO) also make them laugh.
SVT

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19 February 2016 14: 09

The spring exacerbation of the schizos of the Rada has just begun. Soon they will start eating shit from under themselves and spitting in our direction. They will also introduce same-sex marriages in order to increase the birth rate of the right sector from the rear.
starper

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19 February 2016 15: 40

There is a refugee from Ukraine in our ward, a guy of few words, but when he heard this news on TV, he couldn’t stand it and said: you will move the capital to Moscow! All this with a great Southern accent and genuine outrage! In general, I can’t laugh :-)
VVM

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19 February 2016 17: 15

Dear Hohlopithecines, finally take that medicine
Don36

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19 February 2016 19: 33

The Ukrainian diaspora in Canada stated that it was the crests who founded Canada. I propose to rename Ukraine Canada, within the borders of 1654. Since the crests dug up the Black Sea, I propose to rename the Black Sea to the Ukrainian Sea, for the globe of Ukraine this is the very thing. On the Ukrainian TV channel 24'' there is an advertisement - Do you want to live in the USA?! Buy an apartment in Lviv, in the America residential complex. - Do you want to live in the EU?! Buy an apartment in Lviv, in the Europe residential complex. It’s like this everywhere they go.
Flat5160

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19 February 2016 20: 38

It seems to me that smoking is supplied to the Rada in trains...... straight from Afghanistan. The mattresses are overdoing something, they need to close the valve on the Afghan border a little, otherwise they are in the heat of the moment and will start renaming America!
jaroff

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19 February 2016 21: 30

About 15 years ago, I jokingly proposed to supplement the union state of the Russian Federation-Belarus with Ukraine. Call the common state Russia, move the capital to Kyiv and appoint “father” Lukashenko as president. For the transition period. In this case, several “hares” would be “killed”: 1. In general, the state would expand; 2. The borders would return deep into Europe; 3. The unification of the economies of the three countries; 4. Relieving tension between Ukrainians and Russians, they say the Kremlin is in charge, let Kiev rule everything. It is important who sits in Kiev. 5.And a smart “dad” sits in Kyiv.
Every joke has some humor in it. It turns out that the idea was not so bad after all. After all, the current “union state” cannot be called more than a parody. Without Ukraine, nothing will happen. Just ink on paper. Smart people understood this long ago before us. And that’s why this whole Sabbath is based on blood.
And our rulers, because of their own ambitions, also will not want to change the capital. Although even now this does not sound fantastic. We just need to propose and hold a referendum in three states.
Question for the referendum: “Do you agree to the unification into a single state “Rus” of three independent states (RF, Ukraine and Belarus) with the capital in the mother of Russian cities - Kyiv?”
gammipapa

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19 February 2016 21: 53

One problem - in Russia they speak Russian, it will be interesting to see what will happen to this Ukraine in five years
Wassia62

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20 February 2016 01: 43

By analogy with Macedonia, the name Former Soviet Republic of Ukraine (FSU) is suitable.
Lexa-149

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20 February 2016 20: 17

This is the headdress of President Ruin.
Lexa-149

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20 February 2016 20: 18

And deputies of the Verkhovna Rada must now enter the meeting room in this form of clothing.
Hecate

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21 February 2016 05: 33

Quote: avva2012
Well, after all, one admitted.

She doesn’t like Russians, why does she live in Russia, let her go to her historical homeland, a foundling with the appearance of a scarecrow.
nnz226

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21 February 2016 11: 52

Well, if we are renamed Muscovy, then the territory subordinate to Kyiv should be renamed the blunt-snout Ho_khlyandiya...
Gurd Ivanov

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21 February 2016 17: 40

But this is true, no matter how funny it may sound: dill occupy lands protected (where the Russians lived) and reclaimed (from the invaders) by the RUSSIANS from all sorts of abandoned Tatar-Mongols, psheks, Turks, Swedes and other rabble who drove throughout this ENTIRE territory until until Ivan the Terrible, Peter I and Catherine II (and other Romanovs) put all this “walk in the field” in order. And all the “Ukrop” cities were founded by Russians. History and facts are stubborn things. These are the facts (available to everyone interested and soberly assessing the existing reality). Especially to the brainless Ukrainian nationalists. Data:
Rus' (Rus) is a people (or social group) that gave its name to and formed the top of the medieval Eastern European state, which united the Baltic, Finno-Ugric and Slavic tribes. If we turn to historical sources, we will see that no name Kievan Rus existed in ancient times. This state was called Rus' or, more loosely, Russian Land. At one time, when Russian historical science was periodizing the past of Russia, the Russian historian Sergei Solovyov (1820-1879) divided the past of Rus' into several stages. He divided it based on the location of the capital of the State. Kievan Rus', Vladimir Rus', Moscow Rus', St. Petersburg Russia. This is where the formation of “Kievan Rus” came from. Although we emphasize that this is a conventional name introduced by historians, and it never existed in our past reality. Until the 19th century there was no difference between Ukrainians and Russians, and they themselves called themselves Russians.” How then did the figurative expression “Kievan Rus” become associated in the minds of Soviet people with the state “Kievan Rus”? The answer is as directed by the party. In the textbook “A Short Course in the History of the USSR”, 1937 edition, on page 13 it says: “Since the beginning of the 1939th century, the Kievan Principality of the Slavs has been called Kievan Rus.” Since then, at the direction of the party, this false idea has been entrenched in our heads. The final approval of the concept of “Kievan Rus” in the state-political sense occurred in the Soviet era, when academician B. D. Grekov published his main works, which became textbooks: “Kievan Rus” (1944) and “Culture of Kievan Rus” (XNUMX). Clarifying the meaning of the term, Grekov noted the following: “I consider it necessary to once again point out that in my work I am dealing with Kievan Rus not in the narrow territorial sense of this term (Ukraine), but precisely in the broad sense of the “Rurikovich empire”, corresponding to the Western European empire of Charles Great, which includes a huge territory.
The Russian Federation is the historical successor to previous forms of continuous Russian statehood since 862: the Old Russian State (862-1240) - the Old Russian language (and not Ukrainian, since it did not exist), the Grand Duchy of Vladimir (1157-1389), the Moscow Principality (1263- 1547), the Russian Tsardom (1547-1721), the Russian Empire (1721-1917), the Russian Republic (1917), the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (1917-1922, since 1922 a republic within the USSR) and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (1922 —1991).
Yakow

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21 February 2016 23: 28

Ukrainian people's deputies have burst out with another bill that casts doubt on the mental health of Verkhovna Rada legislators.

I remembered a very true phrase that if God wants to punish someone, then he takes away his mind.
Mushket

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23 February 2016 22: 05

Our answer to Chamberlain))
mr.fafes

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12 March 2016 20: 35

Let them rename themselves Russia, it will be easier for us, our troops will be able to move freely throughout Ukraine because Russia has the right to move its troops across its territory as it wishes.

But seriously, let them rename themselves to Khazaria, they already have the Khazar coat of arms, it’s just a matter of small things,
the parasha and the rabbit will then be able to call themselves golden khans.

Anecdote.
Benny, what is happening there in Ukraine?
- Ukraine is at war with Russia.
- And sho, how are you?
“Well, Ukraine has lost two million civilians, the Crimean peninsula, several helicopters, a couple of dozen armored personnel carriers, many soldiers were killed, and two large areas in the east are still on the verge of transition to Russia.”
- And what about the Russians?
- You won’t believe it, they didn’t come to the war at all.