Erdogan: "Turkey is upset by Russia's reaction to the incident with the Su-24"

November 26, 2015 291

Turkish President Erdogan is trying to use the cunning rhetoric in connection with the attack of the Turkish Air Force on the Russian bomber. Erdogan agreed to the fact that he stated his dissatisfaction with how Russia responds to the strike on the Su-24 aircraft of the air group operating in Syrian territory. RIA News quotes a phrase that the Turkish president allowed himself to express, apparently having crossed all bounds:

Turkey considers Russia a strategic partner and is upset by its reaction to the incident with the Su-24.

Upset ?!

Since when did one “strategic partner” shoot down planes of another “strategic partner”, and then it also expects the “partner” to view the situation through the prism of the “Understand, forgive” formula?

However, the words about the “disorder” of Turkey are not all that attract attention in the speech of Erdogan. The Turkish president, who is actually convicted of complicity with terrorism, said that the so-called "Islamic state" finances (attention!) Bashar Asad.

Erdogan:

Those who accuse us of buying oil from the "Islamic State", let them prove it. If you are looking for a source of funding for the IG, then the first place to look is in the direction of the Assad regime and those who support it.

Apparently, the convoy of gasoline tank trucks and terrorist groups crossing the Turkish border, according to Erdogan, are not proof of the complicity of the Turkish authorities to international terrorism and ISIS specifically ... If so, then it is unlikely that someone could have expected.

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Seryoga0629

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26 November 2015 17: 06

Did this deer get hit or stoned?!
Mikhail Krapivin

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26 November 2015 17: 09

http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2021108.html

Excellent article on Regnum, comrades, check it out.
builder

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26 November 2015 17: 27

In Krasnodar, 39 Turkish citizens were detained for violating migration laws. All of them participated in the agro-industrial exhibition. We presented the products of Turkish companies and communicated with business partners. But they arrived in Russia as tourists. https://news.mail.ru/incident/...
Coincidence? I don’t think so ...
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  26 November 2015 17: 36
  
  Ahha.39 They will kick out the Gastrov, well, yes, “there is no fish and no fish.” Only the Turks are leading construction projects for the 18th World Cup and who the hell will touch them. 4 months ago we kissed them, is this a foreign policy aimed at the benefit of Russia, or maybe for the benefit of the oligarchs?
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26 November 2015 17: 32

And how will our “great generals” be punished now? NO! These are all godfathers, sons, etc. The economy is in the ass, we quarreled with the whole World (and the closest country), sanctions, the dollar has grown 2.5 times, taxes are rising, inflation is catastrophic. We need a change of power, well, look at Putin 10 years ago and now - these are 2 different people! Sitting for 30 years in power, in all positions of the “sidekick”, well, this is nonsense.
Erdogan gave Putin a kick (now he’s still mocking him), and Putin ran into the bushes and asks for an apology from there.
Khrushchev was removed (our image suffered less in the Cuban Missile Crisis), but this one will remain in prison until his death. In our country, only citizens pay for everything, and the “rich” only profit.
I am grateful to VVP for his actions 15-10 years ago (the situation with Kursk was still different), but now he played at being a “super-megastrategist” with iron balls, Russia was slapped in the face, and he ran away and hid. But no, excuse me, he’s a chicken prohibited - an asymmetrical answer is nothing less.
dchegrinec

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26 November 2015 17: 36

Sometimes it seems that Erdogan is insane! Not an adequate reaction to the events that took place!
Goldmitro

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26 November 2015 17: 37

Turkey considers Russia a strategic partner and is upset by its reaction to the incident with the Su-24.

For so many years, Turkey, hiding behind open chatter that it sees a good neighbor in Russia, has not changed its historically hostile policy towards Russia and continues to pursue it today, being one of the main sponsors and curator of bloody separatists in the Caucasus, support for Islamists in Russia, in Crimea, as well as support for Islamic fundamentalism, which is aggressive throughout the world, seeking to seize power in various countries, in particular the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, behind which there is a whole trail of bloody crimes (it is possible that their participation in the bombing of our plane with tourists over Sinai)! And all this did not prevent us from not noticing all this, declaring that Turkey is our good neighbor, almost a friend! That’s why Turkey decided that Russia, as before, will once again swallow the downed SU-24 and is surprised by its reaction today!
DobryAAH

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26 November 2015 17: 38

And Erdogan continues to threaten us.
ANKARA, November 26 – RIA Novosti, Alena Palazhchenko. Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said that in case of violation of the country's air borders there will be the same response as in the incident with the downed Russian Su-24 bomber. “If today exactly the same violation of our air borders happens, we are able to give the same response,” he said at a meeting of heads of rural administrations in Ankara on Thursday.
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26 November 2015 17: 39

Well, yes, I’m bad for telling the truth. I had no doubt.
By the way, I consider Turkey’s actions unacceptable. But he taught our military well - the main thing is to quickly report on the work done, and then “burn everything with fire.”
tankist epta

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26 November 2015 17: 45

Quote: Monos
No, but what? Reaction as a reaction.

Do the Turks have fire shows or what?)) oh, and they love to organize holidays!
Fonmeg

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26 November 2015 17: 53

Ankara will not apologize for the incident with the downing of the Russian Su-24, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said in an interview with CNN on Thursday.

“I think that if some side needs to apologize, then this is not us. Apologies need to those who violated our airspace. Our pilots and the armed forces simply fulfilled their duties, which consisted in giving an answer to the violation, ”Erdogan said.

Earlier, the Turkish President said that in case of violation of the country's air borders there would be the same response as in the incident with the downed Russian Su-24 bomber.
What a *boil!
Lex.

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26 November 2015 17: 53

Yes, Gromyko would have told Erdagan that our pilots are already on takeoff
nord62

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26 November 2015 17: 56

Upset? This is putting it mildly - Türkiye is still in full swing stifles! Subhumans! Enough test Slavic patience!
Vladimir-1

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26 November 2015 17: 58

Zrdagan has completely swam so much that he can no longer see the shores. He is talking utter nonsense - there is no reason for him to back away. He's either gone or gone. Yes, the shameful jackal is yapping like that because there is an encouraging look behind him.
TsUS-Air Force

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26 November 2015 18: 02

drop a nuclear bomb on Turkey and say, Well, excuse me if anything happens, it just happened that way, let’s continue to be friends...
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26 November 2015 18: 13

Quote: NOC-VVS
drop a nuclear bomb on Turkey and say, Well, excuse me if anything happens, it just happened that way, let’s continue to be friends...

Well, to hell with him and his friends and relatives, let’s die together...
Only Putin is against it, he has daughters in the geyrop, what if they are offended there... And friends (authorities) are against it, capital and houses are disappearing.
Rogozin said 1.5 years ago “Russia will hold out against the United States for 6 hours, then 90% of our forces will be destroyed” (approximate quote), or did the patriot lie then?
Nooo brother, we will answer as we should - we will ban vegetables and fruits, and let the citizens eat domestic cabbage and not go anywhere for vacation.
Old26

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26 November 2015 18: 14

Quote: Good AAAH
Offensively, Turkey Su-24 involving the United States and Saudi Arabia

Details: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2021108.html Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM IA.

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2021108.html

Excellent article on Regnum, comrades, check it out.

This is an excellent article - bullshit, designed only for emotions and ignorance of the subject by those who read it. ANALITIC, specialist in the field of military space forces Alexey Leonkov writes: The fighter's radar operated in target illumination mode until the missile captured the target, and then was turned off. This ICSPERD really believes that in order for a rocket to The INFRARED HOOKING HEAD captured the target; it NEEDS TO BE ILLUMINATED WITH RADAR???????
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26 November 2015 18: 23

Quote: Old26
Quote: Good AAAH
Offensively, Turkey Su-24 involving the United States and Saudi Arabia

Details: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2021108.html Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM IA.

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2021108.html

Excellent article on Regnum, comrades, check it out.

This is an excellent article - bullshit, designed only for emotions and ignorance of the subject by those who read it. ANALITIC, specialist in the field of military space forces Alexey Leonkov writes: The fighter's radar operated in target illumination mode until the missile captured the target, and then was turned off. This ICSPERD really believes that in order for a rocket to The INFRARED HOOKING HEAD captured the target; it NEEDS TO BE ILLUMINATED WITH RADAR???????

But no one cares. The article is excellent... A “famous expert” spoke.
Well, in principle, the f16 radar could work, but why? There is a border there - Turkish ground radars.
BARKHAN

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26 November 2015 18: 30

If now we just crash their plane in response, then we will seem to be even. But in my opinion, the response should be spread out over time and different areas, and fry them slowly rotating on a spit... just like their favorite dish - shawarma.
Antor

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26 November 2015 18: 40

Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are!??? V. Putin once found a friend, Erdogan, welcomed him, and he received a knife in his back. And what, it was immediately unclear what kind of friend this is, what he is capable of for the sake of his “dough” and the enrichment of his children at the expense of leftist oil!??? Or are they like that and for the sake of their dough they turned a blind eye to everything and what is the result!??
The Americans and their coalition did not bomb this bloody business with Erdogan’s IS, and if we took up a just cause, why did it take place only after the downing of the SU-24 and the death of the guys that we suddenly came to our senses with the escort fighters, and with the unmanned zone, and with the S-400, etc. .d. That we are always afraid, what if someone says something in the camp of our obvious enemies, whom we cowardly call partners, friends, colleagues!???
They will already twist all common sense, justify any meanness, just look at their reaction, statements and conclusions to the actions of Tutia, calling it their right to destroy our bomber, to shoot our pilot from the ground!!!
And now we are waiting for the Turks to apologize and can we really forget everything and continue to be friends with them?? They cut off the chicken legs for them, we arrange a total inspection of the products, it turns out that 15% were completely dangerous (and we ate and didn’t know, who let them through and in the name of what poisoned us?) We are waiting for compensation from the Turks, again with business liberals we are discussing for days how so as not to harm our loved ones, we have an innumerable army of them, just to make money - buy castles, withdraw millions and billions to offshore companies and run over the hill ourselves!?
It’s a shame, personally, regarding the situation with the SU-24, I am furious and bewildered, how long will we remain such village simpletons, who is really responsible for the fact that we find ourselves in stupid situations over and over again and suffer irreparable losses!??? Where are our diplomats, where is the intelligence and deep analysis of what is happening, why such blunders. Why are we cowardly when not only a combat aircraft was shot down, but the whole country was shot down, every one of us!??
Weyland

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26 November 2015 19: 04

Türkiye upset by Russia's reaction

It’s just like the joke about Ukrainian partisans:
- Damn you, Judas!
- Petro, are you out of your mind?!
afrikanez

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26 November 2015 19: 07

Erdogan has turned into Yaytsenyukh. Metamorphoses on the face.
pothas

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26 November 2015 20: 21

Quote: _Vladislav_
Quote: Erdogan
Turkey considers Russia a strategic partner and is upset by its reaction to the incident with the Su-24.

Fabulous nerd - why was he only released from a psychiatric hospital

With Poroshenko in the same ward No. 6
Balagan

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26 November 2015 20: 31

Turks, what the hell are you upset about? You're about to start getting upset. If not daily, then weekly for sure.
Delph

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26 November 2015 20: 44

Just some kind of mythical!! Completely lost in the wilds
serezhasoldatow

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26 November 2015 21: 42

Not mine, but it touched my soul.

Heaven suddenly turned into hell for me
A treacherous blow from around the corner ...
I am a plane with the soul of man
With special wing geometry.
When they beat in the back, they know - they will not miss,
What are the vulnerabilities ...
And the pain that started somewhere in the fuselage,
It pierces from the cab to the tail.
What the hell is going on in this world ?!
Do not see me through the fire and smoke.
I'm not Charlie, I'm Su-Xnumx
And where are the tablets with my name?
Piquet will tighten ... Dizziness
Shuffles everything into a kaleidoscope.
I have not been given a chance to escape
I meet the inevitable directly in the forehead.
Earth will embrace to take forever
My recorder let him cover the darkness.
I am a plane with the soul of man
With special wing geometry.
(c) Sergey Efimov
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26 November 2015 22: 17

That's it...Erdogan said that he will support the Turkomans. Vanguyu - “ours will put a good face on a bad game.” They will cheerfully report on TV about successful bombings, but our people will no longer meddle in “that area.”
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  26 November 2015 22: 37
  
  YOURS will not interfere! And ours will be - we must repay the favor to the end!
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26 November 2015 22: 52

Quote: stroitel
YOURS will not interfere! And ours will be - we must repay the favor to the end!

Finally, I was waiting for me to track down at least one negative person. I found one.
Can you actually say anything? Why didn’t the “modern” cruiser “Moscow” cover the “bombers”? Why was there no cover fighter? Why was the rescue operation spontaneous, failed and unplanned?
If the swollen ki at the headquarters are not able to work out everything in advance and you lose a marine and a helicopter, then why this exchange?
You don’t have an evacuation plan, hit the radio beacon with everything you can (1 person, not a loss, he’s a military man), including tactical nuclear weapons!
Not capable of this? Then there’s no point in telling lies on TV. Neither the economy nor the Army (well, it got better, but they suddenly introduced one year).
Here's the whole scenario for you, think as you want.
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  I figured it out... I “sign” for each of my rare minuses
  Any rescue operation is spontaneous. Even his NATO allies did not expect such nonsense from Erdogan. ISIS and other moderate opposition do not have fighters, so there was no need to send cover fighters.
  Why was the rescue operation a "failure"? All survivors were rescued. Do you have statistics on losses during such rescue operations?
  What kind of nonsense is “.... Hit the radio beacon with everything you can...”? , "...Tactical nuclear weapons..."
  I'll probably add another minus.
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    I figured it out... I “sign” for each of my rare minuses
    Any rescue operation is spontaneous. Even his NATO allies did not expect such nonsense from Erdogan. ISIS and other moderate opposition do not have fighters, so there was no need to send cover fighters.
    Why was the rescue operation a "failure"? All survivors were rescued. Do you have statistics on losses during such rescue operations?
    What kind of nonsense is “.... Hit the radio beacon with everything you can...”? , "...Tactical nuclear weapons..."
    I'll probably add another minus.
    
    Please re-read what you wrote yourself.
    That is, WE did not have any plan for evacuating the pilots. Erdogan did THIS with permission. Why then were there fighters at the base at all, for the sake of a TV picture?
    The operation was a failure... Well, apparently there’s no way to explain it to you. 1 marine infantry and 1 helicopter were lost! + losses of Syrian special forces! Possibly Hezbollah as well.
    Again, it turns out that the “Basmachi” have bent overboard, or is it not so?
solkhat

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26 November 2015 22: 54

Turkey is a vile country. Since I am a former Crimean, I will say that Turkey has always dreamed of chopping off Crimea and Islamizing the population there. The Turks built mosques and pitted Russians and Tatars against each other. Erdogan dreams of restoring the Ottoman Empire, and Crimea is in the interests of Turkey. Okay, that Crimea has become Russian and now the FSB will restore order there. The instigator Dzhemilev and his Mejlis, this was created by the Turks. They did the right thing in expelling this bastard from Crimea. In Crimea, instigators of hatred should be imprisoned.
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Quote: Solhat
Turkey is a vile country. Since I am a former Crimean, I will say that Turkey has always dreamed of chopping off Crimea and Islamizing the population there. The Turks built mosques and pitted Russians and Tatars against each other. Erdogan dreams of restoring the Ottoman Empire, and Crimea is in the interests of Turkey. Okay, that Crimea has become Russian and now the FSB will restore order there. The instigator Dzhemilev and his Mejlis, this was created by the Turks. They did the right thing in expelling this bastard from Crimea. In Crimea, instigators of hatred should be imprisoned.

And who can argue with this “282” of yours? Only there is a problem, for 5 years Erdogan was his BEST FRIEND.
win

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26 November 2015 23: 22

Erdogan has come to his senses and, at the instigation of his “big brother,” demands that Russia apologize for violating the borders of a great state. Otherwise the straits will be closed...
His eyes sparkle and he waves his arms. Got high for sure...
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Gost171

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27 November 2015 02: 17

Well, the unlucky Turk, no matter what they called him already. Perhaps I should add, Ibn the moldy apricot...
sgr291158

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27 November 2015 06: 04

Erdogan has completely misled the situation; did he think that Russia would have a different reaction? Probably expected public festivities about the destruction of Sushka.
shimus

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27 November 2015 06: 54

HOLY SHIT, it turns out there was an incident!!!
Well, in this case, no one, I think, will object from Turkey if a couple of CALIBR missiles fall on their territory, well, let’s say, on the territory of his son’s oil refinery, which uses ISIS oil!
Let's say, then, that so and so, according to intelligence data, there was an oil tanker with ISIS license plates!!! An unfortunate incident and that's all!!!
press officer

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27 November 2015 07: 22

Quote: Serhio
I propose to bring down a couple of Turkish planes and track the reaction of Erdogan to the actions of a strategic partner.

And then declare: An amazing reaction followed from Turkey to their planes that we shot down! We are very surprised and upset because... believed that the Turks should jump for joy and sing their anthem in chorus! Surprisingly simple!

And so, damn it, did he think that we would run out of happiness to “fraternize” with them? Or do we have robots sitting on the plane? Or are people cattle for them?! For us - no! Or does he imagine himself to be the “navel” of the earth, which could threaten a nuclear power? Where are your brains?
And to prove that the son communicates with ISIS, then all the photos have already been seen and not only this photo! Or is this not proof? Where is the evidence about Assad? No! Well, with us now, you can accuse anyone of anything without any evidence! Accepted so! It's time to teach the world to believe again that evidence in any matter is the truth!
Al_oriso

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27 November 2015 08: 18

Maybe Erdogan is waiting for Russia to begin to calm him down, saying, don’t be upset by our reaction? Never mind?
Or does he want Russia to thank him?
Let him calm down - the time for real frustration has not yet come.
Pasha

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27 November 2015 13: 12

Come on Edik (Erdaganchik), don’t be upset, save your tears. They will still be useful to you.
I have the honor.
vell.65

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27 November 2015 13: 34

This means that the downing of a Su-24 is just an incident, but suddenly a Turkish plane is shot down over Syrian territory, it’s an act of aggression. When this happens, then we’ll see how Istanbul reacts.
Mercenary

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27 November 2015 14: 14

We're lucky to have neighbors! Besides Belarus and Kazakhstan, there are only secret “well-wishers”, and a couple more idiots have appeared, Mr. PerDushenko, and the inadequate PerdoGan. This dirty trick is upset by Russia's reaction... Urgently take the Russians out of Turkey (we lacked thousands of hostages) and act.
The Turks of Russia should kiss their feet; this nation should have disappeared in 1917-18.
Abrekkos

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27 November 2015 16: 03

Quote: _Vladislav_
Fabulous cretin

He's not a cretin anyway. An aggressive insolent and a cretin are two different things.

He is simply taking advantage of the opportunity to brazenly push his hard imperial line. He takes advantage of the fact that it is extremely difficult to give him a military response.

He’s afraid that there won’t be another opportunity to show off and grab something.

I already wrote in another topic that in my opinion everything is not as it seems.
Aristide

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27 November 2015 16: 13

Erdogan was blown away by his own “pacifism.” The Russian plane of Turkey’s “strategic partner” just approached the Turkish border and was shot down. At the same time, ISIS militants (read: international criminals) walk and drive (carry oil) across the Turkish border without consequences for themselves. What more evidence does Erdogan need of his criminal activities in the field of international terror? It’s a shame for the Turks that for some time they got a very unfarsighted, but greedy and deceitful political leader!
Foxmara

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27 November 2015 16: 51

expected to be honest. It is known that Assad has nowhere to get fuel and he buys it, albeit not directly from IS. A little truth to cover up a big lie.
Koliamba_TV

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27 November 2015 16: 57

Well, no, he won’t get away with it that easily! You have to answer for your actions!
bsk_mna54

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27 November 2015 17: 05

Mr. Putin! Erdogan should be patted on the head (as a “strategic partner”) with a Stoeros cudgel on the crown until he passes out, and the rest should be expended (son, daughter, henchmen generals) who are “running a bloody business. and Kararians.
Pomah

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27 November 2015 17: 42

Vaska (Erdogan) listens and eats...

Only strength is understood. It’s probably stupid to shoot down Turkish planes... But why not declare a no-fly zone (having thoroughly prepared beforehand), and only then shoot down a couple of... strategic partners and be upset about it).

Now our transport workers cannot pass through the straits. Cargo (ammunition) is more difficult to deliver.
Prometey

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27 November 2015 18: 30

Upset?
Dabil shole?
RUSIVAN

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27 November 2015 18: 44

Erdogan: "Turkey is upset by Russia's reaction to the incident with the Su-24"
You will be upset when they burn your little son along with the fuel trucks.
gerodot

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27 November 2015 19: 05

what kind of partner is Türkiye if it did not admit the attack. I think in business she is the same partner who does not give an account of obligations to other participants in the transaction.
Another bad thing, the Turks are many times worse than the Ukrainians. and a stab in the back is a common thing for them
http://topwar.ru/84123-terakt-na-mitinge-protiv-terrorizma.html#comment-id-50754
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27 November 2015 19: 14

Let him “shove” his frustration far away...
You should have thought with your head before shooting down our planes!!!
The time to ask for forgiveness has passed!!! Now it’s just tough, and more than once...
gerodot

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27 November 2015 19: 42

This is what freedom is like in the nth country http://lenta.ru/news/2015/11/27/journalists/
This is how they conduct all their affairs, dealing with undesirables
sledge

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27 November 2015 20: 29

Turkey considers Russia a strategic partner and is upset by its reaction to the incident with the Su-24.

Russia won't upset you so much!!!!!
Kibl

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27 November 2015 20: 32

It's time for the Turkish Fuhrer to bask in the crematorium, and we'll throw on the gas!
BookerBoox

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27 November 2015 22: 24

Infinitely polar bear - Russian trailer
Laugh to watch until the end!!!! Round dance of idiots
Fresh jokes, new cut May 2015
BEST JOKES 2015 AUGUST! CUTTING JOKES, FUCKING JOKS OF RZHAK
Kolyma

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28 November 2015 02: 45

Erdogan: "Turkey is upset by Russia's reaction to the incident with the Su-24"

Well, what are you Gippy, it’s too early to be upset :)) Sushi pants - everything is just beginning!
Evgtan

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28 November 2015 05: 58

And the more such apologies we make, the better.
linen

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28 November 2015 07: 04

I would like to look at this ISIS FACE when the Turks, BY THE WILL OF ALLAH, fall from the sky in their tins!!!
9lvariag

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28 November 2015 07: 22

I don’t want to generalize anything, but many of my colleagues and relatives were in Asia. Colleagues were in Syria. The late guy was in Egypt for a long time and flew to Cuba. And my teacher was in Tunisia, an assistant to a trade attache.
My boss was in Syria, Egypt and Vietnam. In general, to summarize - a lot of things are mixed up. Yes, one can only feel sorry for the peaceful people in the countries of Asia and Africa after the “Arab Springs”. But sorry. Many who have not encountered the Arab-Israeli wars and the Gulf Wars do not know that the Arabs themselves are very, very lazy people. And the most stupid and lazy soldiers are the Arabs. Even Kenyans, Malians, Angolans and Cubans, compared to them, they are Kasparovs and Harry Potters.
These people were sincerely and always tamed to submit to fate. Both mullahs and wandering preachers are Sufis.
Then came NATO, the USA and the Warsaw Pact. What the hell, work if you are a former drug dealer, a bandit-smuggler, a Bedouin, etc. - the white guys themselves are carrying M-16s, AKs? They're dragging free ATGMs and MANPADS! They're bringing air defense systems, planes and tanks! :)
And all this just for the fact that you would help them in the fight against the “evil empires”. Those. almost freely. Well, I'm seriously simplifying this. But in application. to Somali pirates and Libyan bandits - that’s almost true. But you know, slacking is very corrupting and brutalizing. Then, in the late 80s, towards the mid-90s of the 20th century, I gradually began to forget about these countries in both Europe and the USA. Collapses in 1919. - Union. And where should people go, whom we are all “white” and not very - taught only to kill? That's right, terrorists and mercenaries. Moreover, the French and the British. kept such people in their service in the 17th - 19th centuries, without giving any guarantees of naturalization. Only imperial money and its service.
This is my IMHO: and many can refute it.
And then France, which began to lose colonies much later than England, began to have serious problems. What should we do with Muslims who were brought to the metropolis and/or collaborated with the rulers of France, fought for it in WWII and then in the Foreign Legion?
And the relatives of those Muslims started howling. how beautiful, glamorous and cool Europe is. And what a sweet life there is for free social services.
If they fussed less and expelled them, it would have been better and more correct.
mivail

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28 November 2015 08: 34

Quote: BEGA2015
Erdogan- THE LAST BATTERY AND THE CRIMINAL!
With such a creature no negotiations can be conducted, he will understand only the language of power!

Quite recently, the entire press of the “civilized world” was broadcasting the same thing about GDP. Reminiscent of the beginning of World War II, when, according to the West, two dictators, Hitler and Stalin, were pitted in a bloody battle. Moreover, the first one was supported in exactly the same way and then provoked into an attack, as they are now doing with Erdogan. There is no point in Russia openly fighting Turkey. After ensuring the safety of our tourists, we will begin a systematic offensive against terrorist accomplices at all global platforms, including the UN. And it’s not a fact that everything will be limited to Turkey; many friends of Pindostan are involved in trade and financing of ISIS.
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28 November 2015 08: 54

Erdogan is a dog and the son of a dog. This fascist scum still threatens us, he has completely lost fear and connection with reality, if he hopes that NATO will fit in with him, then he is deeply mistaken - there are no suicides there, despite all their show-offs!
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28 November 2015 09: 36

Erdogan: "Turkey is upset by Russia's reaction to the incident with the Su-24"
It's too late to get upset! Sadness will not be long in coming, let them say thank you to their NATO partners and in particular the USA........
VeteranS

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28 November 2015 10: 40

“There is nothing hidden that would not be revealed, and secret that would not be known” (Luke 12,2:XNUMX) - Erdogan, having committed his treacherous stab in the back, agreed to the point that Russia and Assad become to blame for his terrorist attack against our aircraft... but even the corrupt Western media and Turkey’s NATO allies are forced to admit that Erdogan has crossed the line of what is acceptable... Most likely, the State Department will merge him so as not to spoil the tarnished image of the American coalition, allegedly at war with Iblis and other shaitans.. We are waiting for the situation to develop, which will clearly hit Turkey and Erdogan personally.
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28 November 2015 10: 42

-what to take from him besides the tests...it is necessary to undermine the Turkish tourist industry, then the Janissaries will boil Erdogan in boiling water...it’s just hard to believe that the Russians will ignore the Turkish coasts in the summer
Robert Nevsky

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28 November 2015 10: 49

Since when did one “strategic partner” shoot down planes of another “strategic partner”, and then it also expects the “partner” to view the situation through the prism of the “Understand, forgive” formula?

Yes sir!
Prince Bulls

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28 November 2015 12: 51

wow, you're two-faced
Maz

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28 November 2015 13: 34

Of course I’m upset, did you think we’d strike Turkish territory in anger, grind their Air Force base into dust, expose ourselves to NATO and the USA? And we have become smart, we don’t drink buckets of vodka, we snack +... :) We will take revenge thoroughly, but humanely, we will chew the gentlemen infidel atom by atom, we will dismember each molecule in public and so that everyone can see what it consists of on video, we will show it, then we will throw it away to the dump - let their dad Obama cry over them and democratize them over the head.
Invoker

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28 November 2015 13: 45

Why they still can’t figure out whether he crossed or didn’t cross the Turkish border. Why doesn't the US, as NATO, get involved and publish official data? The United States is a disgrace, which cannot even sort out its own “dirty laundry” (NATO). Even if we assume that the plane was crossing the border, when they started shooting, if we have cooperation with them in the fight against ISIS. I agree with Putin, we don’t need such allies/cooperation. I fully support him on this, and what kind of moderate opposition walks around with machine guns? The logical conclusion would be to shelter Turkey’s moderate opposition during the hostilities. And when Statehood is restored in Syria, officially agitate them. And now even I have a desire that they... (I will refrain from harsh statements!) Russia is certainly not an Angel, but we are adequate. And we are not changing our position.
Appraiser

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28 November 2015 13: 59

The USA and Great Britain (NATO coalition countries) are playing another game called the "Turkish Gambit"...
9lvariag

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28 November 2015 14: 18

It looks like Erdogan has become like a politician. And because of the need greater than that of Usraina, everyone’s head was blown away!
It took it so hard and for a long time!
Here the United States supported you (a NATO ally), you got along with Bardak in Antalya. Say so with the “avatar” of the owner of the world.
The three-headed hydra of ECSE members Merkel, Holland, Cameron themselves offered to become a member of the EU if Turkey plugs the “fountain” of the eastern branch of pseudo-Arab emigration to the EU.
Here the GDP throws up preferences.
In short: the Chuchmek’s head was spinning from the prospects that had opened up. Now everyone needs him and Türkiye is needed everywhere!
I'm following the news here.
And not one of you wrote that Turkey, during both Gulf Wars, was not averse to biting off a piece of adjacent territories. Be it the Kurds, or whatever. Were there no incidents between the air force of the then Coalition and Turkish air defense? Let me remind you: the Tornado attack aircraft almost destroyed a Turkish air defense system in northern Iraq during a dust storm. Then the Turkish generals decided that they were smarter than the General Staff of the Anti-Iraqi Coalition! And the news that Ankara is not averse to gaining control over the entire piece of Kurdistan, except for Iranian? Or attempts to take control of Northern Syria? Whether with the help of the FSA or with the help of gangs of Turkomans and neo-fascists from the Gray Wolves. And parcels with weapons and other equipment.
Turkey has been trying for a long time to become an empire in the Middle East, and to become both secular and religious (by becoming more Islamized).
In light of these events, we need to work to bring Turkish society down to earth - mother. We don’t need mosquito bites, like downed F-16s and certainly sunk submarines. I remember the incident with a trawler that was almost sunk in the waters of Crimea and a ship that was engaged in espionage in Crimea. Do you know how much Türkiye stank of stealing for these little boats. And for the tourist ship, she generally got away with the Russian Black Sea Fleet. We don’t have money for our own anti-ship missiles. And they called the Russians, and they are angry, hot people - so they overdid it with preventive measures and almost sank the PKR ship. By the way, there were human casualties back then!
Dimly lit, another form. The fact is that the so-called "Crimean Tatar resistance in Crimea" from the 20s of the 20th century. is completely on Turkish suction! And morally and physically and financially and politically.
Even now the leadership of the blockade of Crimea and terrorist attacks in the Kherson region. could be carried out through Turkey! And weapons and finances and advisers. I don’t completely rule out the “Ukrainian trace,” but here are the facts. Blowing up power lines. It is completely unprofitable for ESU and the Akhmetika company. These are simply direct losses, because it is not the sale of electricity that is direct lost profit by EU standards (we sell at euro prices). Money for repairing power lines is collected from consumers in Ukraine. In the first days, residents of the Kherson and Nikolaev regions. were left without light. Renewed loss in the creation of emergency modes at nuclear power plants. A Ukrainian police officer also died.
In addition, we receive a decrease in gas flow to Ukraine and a refusal to sell coal for thermal power plants.
The conclusions we get are amazing.
aleks.29ru

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28 November 2015 16: 08

picture 1958 nothing changed.
Prisoner

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28 November 2015 17: 08

That's a t-v-ar! "Türkiye is upset..."! We don't care!
933454818

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28 November 2015 19: 27

Many people think that the 5th paragraph of the NATO charter is like “One for all and all for one.” I thought so myself, but a smart person found and translated this very paragraph from English because I didn’t believe that the Americans could stick their butts out for someone and this was documented. And he was not mistaken - there are such vague formulations like “will provide possible assistance in the required amount.” So NATO is also a bunch of people.
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tehnokrat

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28 November 2015 21: 44

What a flurry of comments, assessments and forecasts, however! Even on central TV channels,
in the “Kremlin pool”, the tension is almost hysterical. And there are even specialists here who undertake
everything will be sorted out quickly!
Ankara, having shot down our plane, committed a disgusting act, brazen from its own stupidity,
this is so (the stupidity is that Erdogan believed in impunity. He was counting, perhaps,
on NATO, and our urgent need for economic projects with it. Both broke off).
But everything else, IMHO, is quite logical:
- the reaction of the SGA and NATO is natural: they themselves will not escalate, they are all peacekeepers and democrats!
Now, if we had responded right away, it would have been a different matter; we would have been accused of aggression.
- Naturally, Erdogan twitches: he’s in trouble! But you shouldn’t expect an official apology from him, his fighters won’t understand him, and he still has to live with them. Didn’t you know that he is connected with radicals? Did you know? They knew. Did you know that he was eccentric and inadequate? They knew. So why did you work with him, such a scoundrel?! So his words that he regrets and hopes that this will not happen again are worth something.
- Naturally, Erdogan wants to sort this out somehow with Putin, face to face. Tried to call, asking to meet with him on the 30th; everything is publicly announced, and this is quite humiliating.
So what are we going to do? Fight them? But then we have to fight with Erdogan, what does Turkey have to do with it??!!
Or will we give it to the States? What a good idea, let Obama tinker with it. But then the ambassadors can be recalled, all at once, from all over the Middle East.
Therefore, there is nothing left to do but help Erdogan get out, since there is no other Erdogan yet. Not free, naturlikh! How can I get it off?
Yes, preferences for the lifting of our sanctions: remember how wires cut off for non-payment of electricity are put back for a fee.
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colonel manuch

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28 November 2015 22: 26

We must always remember that by fanning the wave of patriotism, even in the case associated with the death of our guys and the plane, we are “gourd to the mill” of the United States, without their tacit consent, and maybe on their direct instructions, Erdogan struck from behind, on his own I wouldn't risk doing this. Now in the United States they are rubbing their hands, if only they managed to provoke a new conflict situation near the borders of Russia. Russia’s response should be tough and, if possible, targeted, but if it’s going to hit you, then, as they say, “in the gut,” and this is a whole range of measures, including the Kurdish issue, coupled with other measures of a military and economic nature, in other words, turn off the water, phone and set the house on fire from the inside. and the “fire brigade”, which arrived very late, should do their best to interfere with the extinguishing, but only “quietly”. There is no need to shout and swear, everyone will come running to the scream. And so, they will come to look at the ashes, sympathize and go about their business, and now there are a lot of them in Europeans and Central Asian countries.
Yugra

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28 November 2015 22: 32

He won’t become a sultan. The internal opposition won’t let him, and the Kurds will show him his place...
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Evil 55

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29 November 2015 04: 43

100 and one tales of Erdogan..In the best traditions of the Turkish East..
fleet

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29 November 2015 06: 16

Erdogan resigns along with all his relatives.
tracer

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29 November 2015 08: 05

This two-faced, deceitful Turkish entity should be grateful to our Supreme Commander-in-Chief, if only for the fact that fish are not swimming over Turkey now.
Old warrior

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29 November 2015 09: 33

A friend told me that after a similar incident in Afghanistan over the territory of Pakistan, within three minutes the USSR left the airfield where the pilots who shot down our plane were based were only horns and legs, without any hope of recovery.
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