The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation presented images of "Almaty", "Boomeranga" and "Kurgants-25"

April 21 2015 499

On a specially created Online The Russian Defense Ministry, which is dedicated to the upcoming 9 Victory Parade on May 2015, showed high-quality images of military equipment that will participate in an event taken in Alabino near Moscow during one of the rehearsals, reports blog Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

Among others, there are photographs of new military equipment on the Kurganets-25, Armata and Boomerang platforms.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation presented images of "Almaty", "Boomeranga" and "Kurgants-25"

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shoemaker

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April 22 2015 08: 50

Beauty and power. We should bring such Gringos equipment to Mexico..
Seregatim86

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April 22 2015 11: 11

What is visible is that the vehicles are truly new, and not just another modification, although the most important thing is hidden by the tarpaulin and armor; judging the power of a modern tank gun by what sticks out under the tarpaulin makes no sense; for a rocket, the length of the muzzle is not critical, the thickness and effectiveness of the armor and you can’t judge the internal mechanisms from the picture either, as far as I know, the most effective gun was installed on the Armata, but in reality, judging not by the picture, it’s good that they began to pay due attention to the armament of the army, to produce truly new equipment, will they have It is quite possible for her to have “growing” problems, but this is a common thing.
dsm100

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April 22 2015 11: 45

Somehow the appearance of the equipment is not what it is. The T-90 was simply beautiful.
FRIENDSHARK

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April 22 2015 13: 06

Quote: aktanir
Still, the appearance of the tank was not impressive, it’s a pity

Why don't you go watch the program "Fashionable Sentence".
qwert

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April 22 2015 13: 33

So what do we have? A tank on 7 rollers with a high and, apparently, inhabited turret. The gun is new, but with a shorter barrel. The caliber is more than 125mm, or the barrel is generally short, which cannot be the case in principle. The tower is welded. Those. Western influence is felt, it is highly debatable that this is good. Large engine compartment. It’s strange, our engine-transmission unit has always been able to be made compact. Judging by the dimensions, there is at least 2000 hp. there should be. But I think that an automated ammunition rack is located in the hull between the combat and engine compartments.
Heavy platform. She rude the eye. Our native profile comes from the BMP-1, good angles of the frontal projection, good protection. Well done.
Light platform Kurganets-25. Horror. Box on the tracks. In the style of the freak M-113. Powerful spaced armor from the sides. Not rational angles. I see this car in urban battles, and nowhere else.
Wheel platform. After the handsome BTR-70 and BTR-80, a terrible freak in a European manner. Made with protection against mines, then inside is irrational. Good for patrol and police functions. Would suit the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan. But as a classic armored personnel carrier, it’s absurd. In addition, it is high and, apparently, is not very seaworthy. The Marines will have to stay on the good old APCs.
Self-propelled gun. What can I say? Well done. I am sure that the characteristics will be excellent.
1. psiho117
  
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  April 22 2015 15: 29
  
  Quote: qwert
  Tank...apparently with a manned turret
  
  Where did you actually get this from? the driver is in front in the corps, the commander is also in front, most likely the gunner is there too. Otherwise, what kind of armored capsule is this?
  
  Quote: qwert
  The gun is new, but with a shorter barrel. The caliber is more than 125mm, or the barrel is generally short, which cannot be in principle.
  
  The gun is 2A82, caliber 125mm... I can’t say about the length, there were rumors that it was 60cm shorter than the 2A46M-5, but all these perceptions of length from the picture are subjective, it depends on the depth of the gun in the turret, and on the angle and lighting of the image... So we'll see - we're waiting for the off. information.
  
  Quote: qwert
  The tower is welded. Those. Western influence is felt, it is highly debatable that this is good.
  
  What you took for a welded turret is a layer of composites\ceramics\dynamic and mounted armor, and other armor goodies. In fact, the tower is somewhere in the depths, beyond 40-50 cm of this “pie”, and we cannot see it.
Swed

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April 22 2015 13: 36

Quote: goose
Quote: loki565
There wasn’t anything ... on the platform of the armata ....

Well, put the tower on the armature, as I understand it, the diameter of the tower overhead is the same. All other parameters are better. And why, if it’s already driving, costs 2-3 times less per chassis.
I thought that they weren’t fighting in the army, like I had an update of the OS on the fan for the uninterruptible power supply unit of the OMS ver. 100501 costs, and you only have the 100500 version, so my OMS is 9999 times better. Taxis - efficiency + radically new opportunities. The functionality is the same. At a cost determined. What new opportunities for artillery gives a new chassis?
EMNIP no !!! Stop trolling !!!
Leeder

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April 22 2015 13: 40

Quote: cast iron
Even in the Second World War, the military was convinced that the tanks lacked even 76 mm guns. High-explosive action is not very much. And at 57mm, there are less total bulbs. Moreover, the ammunition of this bullet is unlikely to be more than 100 shells. Most likely even less.

But at the same time, the penetration capacity of the T-34-57 in 41 was considered excessive, and production was resumed in 43, when there was nothing with which to pierce the new German heavy metals. The high-explosive effect is of course good, but the rate of fire and projectile speed of the 57 caliber are much higher.
Don't compare with games! If there is a hole in the tank (at least one), the crew will rather think about how to leave the area, rather than about completing a combat mission. The cumulative ones can only penetrate a couple of centimeters, but they are afraid of them!
breath

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April 22 2015 15: 07

2 hatches, as I understand it?
commander on the right
driver - left
Those. Are they hinting to us that the crew is 2 people and there is an AZ in the tower?
Where did BC go?
By the way, a controversial decision is getting rid of the gunner. The more eyes rummaging around the firing sector, the better. And if the commander * is in an eyepiece with a viewing angle of 10-20 thousandths, then there is stupidly no one to watch the ass.
Well, let's see, maybe everything will work out: they'll cut off the money, blame the theft on the secretary, shoot a video for "NO WAY" and declare the Armata project inexpedient?
zenith

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April 22 2015 16: 35

Quote: sssla
Quote: rimys2220
remember that voice over there
Voice ???? )))))

Exactly. Well done comrade, he exposed the troll with bad Russian. They're all over here like fleas!
metronome

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April 22 2015 17: 44

Quote: aktanir
All the same, the appearance of the tank was not impressed, sorry. Even the latest modification of the T-90 - "Tagil", looks much more advantageous. I don’t understand why the uninhabited tower turned out to be so large. Apparently, it was not possible to make the automatic loader more compact, no? Anything will "catch" such a tower. Even the habitable tower of the modernized Merkava looks much more meaningful, very flat, smooth and original.
In any case, I really want to listen to the developers and see the tank not at the Parade, but in practice - somewhere at the training ground. In my opinion, they openly hastened to show him on the main square of the country, chasing PR.
Aland

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April 22 2015 18: 16

More such equipment
and to the troops and not to the parade
Mentat

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April 22 2015 19: 02

Quote: aktanir
Even the habitable tower of the modernized Merkava looks much more meaningful, very flat, smooth and original.

Are you confusing the appearance of the tower with the appearance of a camouflage dummy and a rag on it? Another loudmouth.
semi-boss

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April 22 2015 19: 07

All this equipment would go to the army
Evil Bobblehead

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April 22 2015 20: 50

I'm looking forward to the parade!
Press

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April 22 2015 21: 39

Will they also ride in sacks at the parade? And it wouldn’t hurt to paint them (camouflage)!
Anarchist

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April 23 2015 05: 02

The main thing in this platform is the uninhabited turret, which makes it possible to protect the crew and increase the survivability of the tank; the turret was destroyed, another one was installed at the factory, and off we went. The worst thing for a tank driver is if the turret is torn off when the tank is hit, there is no chance, but in this case the concept is very successful.
vovanchik35

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April 23 2015 07: 33

I would like it to be used first for myself, and then for others!
maks007

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April 23 2015 10: 00

On the question of where and how hatches open
The stranger

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April 23 2015 13: 39

What a miracle. In technology there is the concept of a “black box”, in electrical engineering - a “four-terminal network”. What’s inside is unclear, but at least there are the most general equations, thanks to which you can find out what it does, and partially how. And here are half-black boxes, not even completely wrapped - and nothing is clear :) Personally, what impresses me most is that they managed to maintain secrecy.
The only pity is the two-gun Coalition. Several years ago, when I accidentally found out about it, I was shocked by the idea and the possibilities it contained. This would be comparable to a tactical nuclear strike. True, I could not understand in any way what and how it would withstand the simultaneous firing of two ship guns, because their native turrets are hundreds of tons. Vidat - the problem was not only my ignorance. Sometimes it’s a shame that physics is so correct and inexorable. They will probably learn to operate them in pairs, and the result will be the same.
In two weeks we will know a little more, and everything will become completely incomprehensible :) It’s just a pity that we will never have all this again, and we will be left standing like an orphan at the bakery window, with sore eyes.
armata37

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April 23 2015 15: 06

And I like the appearance of the tank, even though it doesn’t have a turret yet.

Here someone cited the beauty of the T-90 as an example. Yes, he is beautiful, but, guys, the T-14 is our new promising tank! Everything is still ahead of him! The new design is somehow refreshing, that’s how I write it.

Just look at the reviews of the T-50 aircraft, it also has no protruding bolts, canopies and various “excesses”. It is not even clear to the common man how and where the weapons will be mounted there.
Dikson

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April 23 2015 15: 57

The wheeled vehicle is already very high... It won’t climb any mountains... I mean, how can you drive such a fool through the passes? Okay in the desert - understandable... in the taiga - maybe, but for mountainous areas - it seems to me it would be inconvenient ...
Garik1971

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April 23 2015 17: 31

“But still she spins!”
The engine is clearly behind and across.
Return to the interesting idea of the T-44.
On a new level.
So to speak, super great-grandson.... :)
Takashi

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April 23 2015 18: 51

To be honest, I didn’t see a single platform.
T-14 - an ordinary tank (engine at the rear), judging by the appearance, they simply rebranded the T9x
Judging by the sloth, the new Boomerang and Kurganets have a gearbox in front, which means the engine is in front.
As for the armored personnel carrier, it’s the same story. Powerful armored front - says that the engine is in front.
How ugly are they?
Tolstoevsky

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April 23 2015 19: 54

there was still one "dissenter"
The stranger

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April 23 2015 20: 07

In front, so in front. It’s more interesting how the transmission goes on. When hitting a mine, the front axle usually breaks, and it’s interesting how they maintain the transmission of torque to the next ones.
Aandrewsir

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April 23 2015 21: 49

The fact that the defense industry does not sleep, but works, is encouraging...
Nikolay7665

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April 24 2015 10: 16

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darkriver

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April 24 2015 10: 51

Quote: aktanir
All the same, the appearance of the tank was not impressed, sorry. Even the latest modification of the T-90 - "Tagil", looks much more advantageous. I don’t understand why the uninhabited tower turned out to be so large. Apparently, it was not possible to make the automatic loader more compact, no? Anything will "catch" such a tower. Even the habitable tower of the modernized Merkava looks much more meaningful, very flat, smooth and original.
In any case, I really want to listen to the developers and see the tank not at the Parade, but in practice - somewhere at the training ground. In my opinion, they openly hastened to show him on the main square of the country, chasing PR.

It's a matter of taste... I really like the appearance, apparently my German roots are telling, square it, practice it, buzz... as for the size of the tower, I suspect that most of the volume is mounted whistles and fakes, because even the radar seemed to be promised for install a tank, in addition, no matter what size the tank is, the most important thing is that the habitable compartment will be smaller than that of any other MBT in the world, which means the crew has a greater chance of survival... regarding PR... I don’t know, Then there would be more such PR in the future.
alexpro66

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April 25 2015 21: 22

For two days I was catching up and there was no way to follow the forums where Armata is being sucked up. Thank God he shut up. The mechanic (now Armata) re-read his post where he said that Armata will be the LOWEST PROFILE TANK IN THE WORLD!!! )))
HERE I CAME UPON AN INTERESTING POST ON COURAGE
This is not an answer.
With adequate KAZ, both Apaches and all sorts of javelins will break their teeth.
Armata is a serious challenge.

Previously, Apache could destroy tanks with impunity due to the folds of the terrain.
And now they will wet him.

KAZ is a revolution that depreciates the concept of any light ATGMs and anti-tank helicopters.
It is necessary to do something kinetic against KAZ... and it is not clear whether it will help... KAZ’s interception capabilities will only increase.

With the advent of KAZ, tanks are returning as the main offensive weapon.
The necessary amount of technology has accumulated, nothing can be done about it.
And the Russians were the first to do so. In the form of Armata.
They will probably do a bo-bo to their opponents... or at least cool down unnecessary hotheads.

Edited by Vaal (Today 20:44:22)

VERY CLOSE TO THE TRUTH COMRADE!
CONCERNING THE DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE OPTIONS FOR THE INTERNAL LAYOUT, what they write on the forums is very amusing!
I will say one thing - even the presented version of Armat is not final. It seems that after the parade they will leave two units in Kubinka and will kill them by exploitation (these are the two tanks that were almost completely stuffed). All the rest, including the TBMP, will be returned to Tagil. Regarding the camouflage of the BM - between the 6th and 8th of May they will remove the camouflage at the Parade - it is necessary for the farts of the adversaries to break!))
The development of Almaty is as follows:
1. Priority firepower-152 WILL BE (BUT NOT IMMEDIATELY) AND DEFINITELY NOT WITH PONDOW SHOTS. The Ministry of Defense financed the work on the ETP FOR THE COALITION RICKED OPTION FOR ARMATED.....125MM!!!!! Fuck knows what hit them!!! There is an additional volume in the body between the MTO and the BM fuel tank... but in the future it will be used as tanks for propellant fluid. Ukrainian events forced the warriors to agree with the work on ETPH as promising with the possibility of implementation within up to 5 years. telescopes" - and as always, our "telescopes" are the most pot-bellied in the world.!!)) 57mm will not be on Armata! There are already drawings of the Terminator - Armata inspires!
2.Protection. Definitely new types of active and passive protection Explosive elements of remote protection have exhausted themselves... They are being replaced by “electro” “plasma” polymers and graphene.. KAZ WILL BE VERY ADVANCED AND VERY RECHARGEABLE AND AUTOMATICALLY RECHARGABLE.
3.Mobility - electric transmission has not been canceled!!))))
4. The crew will definitely be “sequestered” to two people in the next three or four years (maybe 5-6)!!
45mm has finally been selected to replace 30mm - they say it has even been shot with new ones"
There will no longer be a sequester of the Armata program, just like the entire military budget - handsome Shoigu came to the explosives and said, “I won’t let the budget be cut!” After half an hour, BB waved his hands - they say, go to the chief of finance - as you decide, so it will be! After three hours of conversation between Shoigu and the chief of finance, it was decided not exactly not to cut the budget, but if necessary, to supplement it from the reserve fund!!)) I don’t know what Shoigu said to Siluanov - he probably promised to find it in the warehouses of NZ T- in the event of a sequester 34 of the latest issue and send it, according to the summons, to the chief of finance to visit his grandmother in Lugansk!)))
1. tankman
  
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  April 26 2015 12: 35
  
  I will say one thing - even the presented version of Armat is not final. It seems that after the parade they will leave two units in Kubinka and will kill them by exploitation (these are the two tanks that were almost completely stuffed) All the rest, including the TBMP, will be returned to Tagil
  
  Will this not affect the time frame for putting the tank into operation? they have already moved.
  1. alexpro66
    
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    April 26 2015 21: 16
    
    It will only affect quantitatively at the initial stage of the series. The shift is possible from a year to two.. Suppliers will not cope..
kavit

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April 26 2015 03: 17

I have a naive question: will the tarpaulin (or whatever it is covered with) be removed from the equipment at the Parade?

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