About a warm understanding between Lukashenko, Poroshenko and ... Bandera.

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About a warm understanding between Lukashenko, Poroshenko and ... Bandera.


In the entire post-Soviet space, the name of the Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko is respected and respected. Not least due to the fact that he, despite the sometimes very difficult foreign policy situation and the economic difficulties caused by it, is always able to provide a decent life for the citizens of his country.

But then the war began in the South-East of Ukraine and Alexander Grigorievich as if they were substituted: in the words of the unforgettable Taras Bulba, he literally began to “mess around” with the Kiev junta ... And this is when, in the cities of the burning Donbass, civilians died at the hands of the punishers in Kiev, and hundreds of thousands of survivors flee to Russia.

Without the permission of "But father", no dog will bark ...

In Belarus, they rightly say that "without the permission of" But father, "no dog will bark ...". Thus, the point of view of the official state media of Belarus can rightly be considered the point of view of the Belarusian president himself.

So, these media present dramatic events in the South-East of Ukraine as a result of the internal political squabbles of short-sighted politicians and conflicts between oligarchs, who are once again trying to redistribute property.

At the same time, it is not possible to learn about the true causes of the uprising in the Donbass region, the crimes of the Nazi-Bandera Kiev junta, the struggle of the people of Donbass against the Kiev punitive troops. For a long time, the Belarusian TV channels called separatists to militia in Kiev’s tone and only recently switched to a more correct one — the rebels.

There is not only an all-out desire to deprive fellow citizens of the right to the truth, but also the desire to impose blame for inciting hatred between the Slav brothers equally on the Ukrainian and Russian media.

Here is just one example of such a “warm attitude” to the Kiev junta: so, the newspaper “Sovetskaya Belorussia” 19 August 2014 g .:

- Yesterday, Ukrainian media reported terrible news: A column of refugees in the Luhansk region was shelled from mortars and Grad multiple rocket launchers. In the information center of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, responsibility for this was laid on the rebels. There are many victims, their exact number is being specified ...

Thus, she fully quoted the official Kiev's messages, without even bothering to check the accuracy of this delusional information.

In the same way, the Belarusian mass media quotes in large quantities the reports of the Kiev officialdom about how the militia themselves allegedly bombard those cities that they protect.

And let it be that no one believes in this feverish deception, except the authors themselves, Kiev journalists and some of the utterly foolish people in Central and Western Ukraine ... It seems that President Lukashenko is very necessary to preserve the "friendship" with the Kiev junta so that ... Why? , that is the question?

The answer, unfortunately, is obvious: all the assurances of loyalty to Russia and statements about unity with the Russian people, repeatedly voiced by Lukashenko, are in fact a disguise. As before, the Belarusian president probably expects to receive concrete material benefits in exchange for gradual changes in his position regarding the assessment of Kiev’s crimes and the reduction of his support.

And at this time for many years in Belarus distort and distort history, extolled by the Polish kings and Lithuanian princes. It is significant that the number of references to the mass heroism of Soviet citizens on the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War decreases every year, and the official media prefer to say expressions like “Belarusian people”, “Belarusian partisans”, “citizens of Belarus”, etc. Dos to the point that this year on the Victory Day in Belarus “it was not recommended” to use St. George symbols.

Of course, in Belarus, all this Russophobic activity is not as aggressive as in Ukraine. But this activity is conducted very systematically, using the entire state mechanism, which makes it effective.

After all that has been said, it is not at all surprising that President Alexander Lukashenko does not notice, or at least pretends not to notice, Nazi symbols on the banners of Ukrainian punitive battalions and the neo-Nazi rhetoric of the Kiev authorities ...

But what is absolutely outrageous, he prefers not to notice that there is a humanitarian catastrophe in the cities of the South-East of Ukraine: even in those days when Ukraine tried its best to prevent the Russian humanitarian convoy to Lugansk and Donetsk, the official Minsk kept silent. And, of course, he still does not even provide moral support to the belligerent Donetsk and Lugansk ...

Blood and ash

Meanwhile, this behavior of the Belarusian president seems altogether blasphemous, if we recall the history of the atrocities of the Ukrainian punitive battalions on the territory of the republic during the Great Patriotic War.

This is what Alexey Litvin, Doctor of Historical Sciences, writes about them in his work “Blood and Ashes”:

- In numerous documents and materials on the history of the partisan movement and the underground struggle in the republic there is information about the so-called “Ukrainian” police officers who acted in Minsk and throughout Belarus.

In the summer of 1941 in Minsk, a separate police battalion of 910 people was formed from among the prisoners of Ukrainian nationality released from the camps of Minsk and the surrounding area.

From the documents available in the National Archives of the Republic of Belarus, it can be seen that already on July 10, a police battalion of 1941 people was formed in BN. 481, mainly from the Ukrainian military and those who pretended to be Ukrainians. In August, the battalion arrived in Minsk. It was located in the former art school at Komarovka and was originally called the 1-m battalion, and then was renamed the 41-th. Somewhat later, in Minsk, the 2 th “worker” battalion was formed from the Ukrainians - later the 42 th. Both numbered 1086 people.

On the territory of Belarus on 1 July 1942, there were 13 shutzmanshaftbatalonov total number of more than 7,5 thousand people. These are 3, 12 and 15 are Lithuanian; 18, 24, 26, 266 “E” - Latvian; 46-th, 47-th, 48-th "E", 104-th, 201-th - Ukrainian; 36 is Estonian.

In October, 1941, the 1-th company of the 41-th battalion took part in the execution of the Jews. In Moscow, this fact became known from the Minsk underground activist R. M. Bromberg, who, together with the N. M. Nikitin partisan brigade, in the autumn of 1942, went into the disposition of the Soviet troops.

According to A. V. Larionov, “The 42 Battalion, in part, went to work on the railway all winter, cleared the snow, unloaded and loaded the wagons. During the winter period, both battalions were armed several times and then disarmed, which was explained by the unstable moral and psychological state of the personnel. Until May 1942, there were no mass transitions to the partisan detachment. The massive transition began in May 1942. Both battalions were commanded by Zalevsky - the organizer of the Ukrainian battalions. Zalevsky - junior lieutenant of the Red Army, Yaschenko acted along with him, it seems, the quartermaster. The whole garrison was headed by German Gummer, who spoke Russian well. According to rumors, he is the captain of the Red Army, who emigrated to Germany in 1939
year.

The following repressions were applied to the personnel: in October 1941, 12 people drank and began to sing Soviet songs. The Germans put them on the guardhouse, and after flogged them with rods. If someone fails to come to the battalion in time or does not pay honor, they beat them with sticks.

The uniform of the Ukrainian battalions is mainly the Red Army, with the exception of the yellow material on the caps, and later the personnel of the 41 battalion were dressed in Lithuanian uniforms. ”

Here is what was written in the detailed memorandum “On the situation in Minsk”, prepared in January 1943 by the future academician of the Academy of Sciences of the BSSR I. S. Kravchenko, at that time a responsible employee of the Belarusian headquarters of the partisan movement: “In Minsk itself there is a battalion consisting exclusively of Ukrainians numbering up to 700 people.

The moral sustainability of these "volunteers" is extremely fluctuating. In March 1942, as a result of the decomposition of this battalion, part of it fled. Over 150 people were arrested by the Germans and shot. A small battalion is available in Minsk and now. The population treats the soldiers of this battalion with hatred.

For example, these “volunteers” do not sell anything on the market, arguing that bread is not sold to traitors. The population declares: "Let the Germans feed you."

It should be noted that part of the territory of Belarus (some districts of the Brest, Pinsk and Polesye regions) was included in the Reich Commissariat "Ukraine".

There were stationed police battalions, which were subordinate to the highest commander of the SS and the Ukraine-Russia South police.

We list only some facts that are known to us about the activities of the Ukrainian police formations in Belarus.

201-th guard police battalion.

It was created at the end of 1941, from the personnel of the two Ukrainian battalions disbanded in the fall, Nachtigall and Roland. The place of formation of the battalion was Frankfurt (Oder).

The Ukrainians were admitted to the battalion, who agreed to serve the Germans as mercenaries. 1 December 1941 of the year they signed a contract for one year, without taking the oath. In essence, it was a typical German police security force. By the same principle, virtually all the "Eastern" police battalions were organized.

Personnel wore German police uniform and German decals. They were forbidden to use national symbols. In fact, only the Nachtigall and Roland battalions were "real Ukrainian".

In March 1942, the 201 th battalion was sent east, but not to the territory of Ukraine, as volunteers expected, but to Belarus, where, together with other similar formations, he guarded the routes of communication in the Mogilev-Vitebsk-Polotsk triangle and fought against the partisans.


30 September 1942 of the year sixty police officers of the 201 th guard battalion escorted a convoy of ammunition and fuel from Lepel to the Ushachi garrison. North of d. Zary the column was suddenly fired upon. The guards immediately launched a counterattack and destroyed, according to the German report, “51 thug, seized 3 machine guns, explosives, fuses. Own losses were 2 man killed and 5 wounded. "

The commander of the convoy, officer of the 201 Battalion, after the battle, ordered the wounded to be taken by ambulance back to Lepel. To escort, he singled out a 21 police officer in two cars under the command of an officer. South of the village of Zary, the partisans attacked this transport and almost completely destroyed it. Only 9 policemen managed to get through to their own. The results of this fight were analyzed in Berlin for a long time. In a message from G. Himmler to A. Hitler, No. 36 of 3 in November 1942, it was stated:

"Territory Russia" Center ". The results of the battle of the 201 police battalion north of Lepel: Enemy losses - 89 man killed, 20 man injured. Trophies: 4 automatic rifles, 2 mortar, 2 assault rifle, 41 rifle, 200 kg of explosives, 36 min, 130 hand grenades, 10000 ammunition. Own casualties: Killed: - German soldiers 4 and local police 22.

In December 1942, the 201 Battalion was disbanded, and its Ukrainian officers were escorted to Lviv, where they were imprisoned. Some of them, including Roman Shukhevych, managed to escape and join the Ukrainian nationalist forces.

102-th Ukrainian police battalion.

In the autumn and winter of 1942, the 102, 115 and 118 Ukrainian police battalions arrived in Belarus, which received a new numbering (1943, 61, 62) at the end of 63.

The first, as is clear from the diary of the fighting of the 23 German police battalion, on October 24 of 1942, the 102 Ukrainian Police Battalion arrived in Pastavy, which was to replace the 2 company of the Lithuanian police battalion No. 254 "E". 3 November 1942, a Ukrainian police company was deployed in the village of Kozyany, north of Postavy, where a day later partisans attacked and lost 20 people killed.

In May 1943, the 102 Battalion participated in Operation Cottbus. He was given the team SD-3 led by Untersturmführer Gruz. After the operation, the battalion received an order to arrive at Stolbtsy to change the 12 of the Lithuanian police protection battalion in the Uzda-Shatsk-Kopyl area.

115-th Ukrainian police battalion.

According to the history of the Lenin partisan brigade of the Baranavichy region, on October 23, 1942, in the village of Ruda Yavorskaya (Lipichanskaya Pushcha), the 115-th Ukrainian battalion arrived to perform the functions of the police garrison. The guerrillas of the Bulat (“Orlyansky”) and Aleksandrov detachment “utterly routed the nationalists on the night of 25. X.1942 G. "

118-th Ukrainian police battalion.

In December, the 1942 Ukrainian Police Battalion arrived in the territory of the republic 118, formed in Kiev mainly from former Ukrainian prisoners of war [12]. The battalion was commanded by German Erich Körner and a former White Guard officer, a major of the Polish army, Pole Konstantin Smovsky. As in the other shutzmanshaftbatalonahs, the German officers led all of them, teams and orders of which were duplicated by officers and non-commissioned officers from among the former Soviet military personnel. The Germans were also financiers, quartermaster and heads of other non-combat services. Upon arrival at Pleshchenitsy, the post of chief of staff of the battalion instead of Korniyts who escaped to the partisans was occupied by Grigory Vasyura, the former head of communications of the 67-st. Fortification.

From the first days of its appearance until the summer of 1944, the 118 Battalion left its ominous traces on the territory of Belarus. Even before the burning of Khatyn, there were a number of savage operations on his account.


Together with the gendarmerie and the local police, the Ukrainian renegades broke into the village of Chmelevichi, Logoisk district, where they killed three residents and burned 58 houses.

During the next operation, which was led by the battalion chief of staff G. Vasyur and the chief of the 3 company, the Hauptmann, Hans Velke, the 16 residents of the villages of Koteli and Zarechye were killed. 40 homes have been turned to ashes.

The whole world knows about the tragedy of Khatyn. However, for a long time the whole truth was not spoken about her.

It was silent about the fact that the 118-th Ukrainian police battalion was the chief executioner. This was convincingly proved at the trial in Minsk. As in a number of similar operations, in Khatyn the policemen acted shoulder to shoulder with the SS battalion, commanded by the Nazi executioner-sadist Dr. Oscar Dirlivanger.

The 51, 52 and 53 Ukrainian battalions.

The 51 Battalion guarded the peat plants around Minsk, and after Operation Cottbus (May-June 1943 of the year) it was to be replaced by the Lithuanian Police Battalion 12. There is also little information about the 52-m Ukrainian police battalion. It is mainly mentioned in the German force reviews for the 1942-1943 years.

54-th Ukrainian police battalion.

According to 1 on May 1943, it was deployed in Lida. The battalion took part in the punitive operation "Cottbus" and then was incorporated into the 31 police regiment.

55-th Ukrainian shuttsmanshaftbatalon.

According to May 1 and June 28 1943, the battalion was stationed in Mogilev. Submitted to the authorized SS Reichsführer to combat the partisans von dem Bahu-Zelewski.

57-th Ukrainian police battalion.

In May 1943, the battalion took part in the punitive operation “Lightning” and
in particular, in the destruction of the village of Zastarinye, Novogrudsky district. The battalion surrounded the village. The Nazis drove all the inhabitants of the village into houses and burned alive. A total of 287 people were destroyed. The same fate befell the village of Zapolye
and yatra.

After the operation “Cottbus” the battalion was sent to Baranavichy “to protect and harvest the crops and destroy the gangs that appeared there. In all cases, blocking the gang's way to the south "

As it appears from the report of the Pervomaisk partisan brigade of the Baranavichy region for March 1944, the 57-th Ukrainian battalion arrived at the Settlement and the 56-th battery attached to it to the total number of thousands of people. On their basis, together with the local police and the “Samakhovai” (1 people) and the Germans (150 people), a regiment was created. The garrison of the Settlement had 23 wedges, 2 armored vehicles and five 8-millimeter guns.

50-th Ukrainian police battalion.

He also left a trail of blood on the territory of Belarus, although he was stationed in Vilnius. The battalion took part in the major operation “Winter Magic” against partisans and the population of the Rossony-Osveisk partisan zone in the Sebezh-Osveya-Polotsk triangle (Drissensky, Osvey, Polotsk and Rossony districts), which was carried out in February-March 1943. The purpose of the operation was to create a “neutral zone” 40 km wide on the border of Latvia and Belarus.

The fighting took place from February 14 to March 20 1943. The operation involved ten police battalions, eight of which were Latvian, as well as Lithuanian 2 and Ukrainian 50, motorized units of gendarmerie, communications and artillery, special purpose 2 group. From the north and south, the area of ​​operation was surrounded by units of the 201 th guard and 391 th training and field divisions.

In the report on the operation in detail, by day and hour, you can trace the activities of almost every unit. In total, 3500 local residents were destroyed and burned alive during the operation, 2000 people were hijacked to hard labor in Germany, more than 1000 children were sent to the Salaspils death camp (Latvia). 158 settlements were looted and burned, including the villages of Abrazeevo, Aniskovo, Buly, Zhernoseki, Kaluta, Konstantinovo, Paportnoye, Sokolovo and others burned down with people. Khatyn was destroyed two days after the completion of this operation - March 22 1943.

During the “Winter Magic”, very brutal methods were used to clear mines and roads.

The Nazis drove ahead of themselves on a mined road or minefield a crowd of local people, forced the surrounding residents to harrow dangerous areas. There are numerous cases of death or injury of the local population during these barbaric actions.

According to reports, on November 18 of the year 1942, a Ukrainian police battalion also took part in a punitive action on the territory of Belarus.

The materials of archival funds unequivocally testify: the Ukrainian police formations have stained themselves with grave bloody crimes on the Belarusian land.

Why is the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punishers not beating in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?

It is significant that it is practically impossible to get any point of view from Belarusian officials on their assessment of the activities of the Ukrainian, as well as Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian punitive police battalions in the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War: “this topic is undesirable because it can harm bilateral relations "...

But back to today.

With the so-called Ukrainian “president” Petro Poroshenko, everything is clear: he has become a worthy successor to the ideology and affairs of Stepan Bandera.

Under his leadership, the strategy of Hitler's warriors to destroy the peaceful population of the surrounding cities was creatively reworked and: if the fascists bombed Leningrad and bombarded it with heavy guns, they also tried to prevent food from being delivered to the besieged city, Poroshenkov’s punitive troops now use Grady, "Hurricanes", "Tornado" and tactical missiles "Tochka-U". And do not miss the humanitarian convoys.

The undoubted "know-how" of modern Ukrainian kkarately is the use of reconnaissance and sabotage groups in cars armed with mortars that move around the besieged cities, shelling civilians. Probably Adolf Hitler would just die of envy if he were alive ...



All this happens under the slogans: "Glory to Ukraine!", "Glory to the Heroes!", "Ukraine need a mustache!", "Death to the enemies", with which the Ukrainian nationalists committed their crimes.

But if Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych killed in the past, Petro Poroshenko, having adopted their ideology and methods, killed in the present, how did the Belarusian president turn out to be in this “company”?

After all, it is simply impossible to assess his current policy with respect to Neo-Bandera Kiev ...

And why the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punishers does not knock in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?
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  1. +3
    25 August 2014 21: 24
    Like any head of state, he seeks benefits for the state. All flirtations with Ukraine lie in the economic plane. The situation with the Belarusian economy is, to put it mildly, a stalemate. Belarusian products are not very competitive, especially in the EU. There is virtually no sales of products, warehouses are overflowing. Lukashenko considers Ukraine as a possible market for Belarusian products. We need to put MAZs, tires, tractors, textiles, etc. somewhere. Doesn't want to lose potential trade. Where can you get money for the state? You can’t live on loans alone. So he fusses... on two fronts!
    1. 0
      25 August 2014 21: 48
      What ???? a genius of economics and a reinforced concrete business executive (judging by the comments of local generals) - and a stalemate situation??? laughing are you kidding laughing

      and as for the sales market - no one really bothers him to sell on the independent market, but all these flirting with the Nazis for the sake of the “sales market” - how to put it mildly... they smell bad or something...
      1. fisherman
        +3
        26 August 2014 00: 39
        smell like MAZOV supplies for Banderlog
        How many screams were there?
        And how to supply steel KAMAZ trucks so silence feel
  2. +2
    25 August 2014 21: 41
    Quote: polite people
    He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

    We ourselves need to decide: what kind of howl did the liberals raise when our Minister of Finance JUST hinted at the POSSIBILITY of making our Central Bank STATE? and how did you think about the opportunity to turn all the profits from the state reserve (read from the US state reserve) into the development of your own economy? read Glazyev’s articles on VO, maybe your brain will brighten! At least daddy doesn’t invest in the economy of Pin.do.sia! For this alone, honor and praise to him! and our people, led by the Boy with the iPhone, are so happy to try, bitches! angry
  3. -3
    25 August 2014 22: 07
    Old Man’s behavior towards Russia reeks of meanness more than that of Svidomo. They have a pronounced color, and Old Man is like a chameleon, sometimes red, sometimes blue, sometimes Svidomo. And it smells, smells, smells.. The fish rots from the head, and so it does here..
  4. -1
    25 August 2014 22: 17
    In his case, sitting on two chairs is very dangerous, sooner or later the chairs may move apart, and between them there may be a very prickly hedgehog called “color revolution”
  5. +3
    25 August 2014 22: 31
    You know, it’s not at all difficult to understand Lukashenko. Well, you just need to know a little psychology. Just a drop! Dad is a strong man, but not smart. To dominate, intelligence is needed less than strength. He has long been an outcast in Europe. And he doesn't like it. He would like to change this situation. But he wants to return to the European political family as a winner, not a loser or a quitter. So he hopes to sell friendship with Russia more profitably. Remember? To betray in time is not to betray! This is to foresee! It would seem smart.... no! Stupid!!! Three times stupid!!! Let him remember the fate of Milosevic and Gadaffi! He doesn't live in Europe! But big politicians are often dumber than we all expect. They think and reason like simple fools: everyone is a fool, but I am smart; everyone can’t do it, but I, the great one, can do it... And Gadaffi, when he gave money to Sarkozy, thought so, and a bunch of our politicians, step by step selling our positions and interests to please NATO, thought so, but... The smart one learns from other people's mistakes, but a fool has no use for his own. And for modern rulers, Russophobia, anti-Russianism and nationalism-Nazism are very attractive, since they do not require intelligence or hard work, but only impudence, charisma and emotionality.
    1. +2
      25 August 2014 22: 49
      You know, it’s not at all difficult to understand Lukashenko. Well, you just need to know a little psychology. Just a drop! Dad is a strong man, but not smart.
      I think you hit the nail on the head! This is exactly how dad should be understood!
      http://topwar.ru/user/Homo+sapiens/- теперь даже я догнал это!
    2. -1
      26 August 2014 10: 20
      +100500 - clearly formulated, I read it with pleasure good
  6. +1
    25 August 2014 22: 39
    For a long time, Belarusian television channels called the militias separatists, in keeping with Kyiv, and only very recently switched to the more correct one - rebels.
    Yeah! But it seems to me that the old man is deliberately “playing along” with the Ukrainians in order to find out “their” plan!
  7. +1
    25 August 2014 22: 43
    Sorry for being a bit off topic:
    “The leader of the Time Machine, Andrei Makarevich, addressed an open letter to President Vladimir Putin with a request to protect him from the flow of “dirt and slander” that has been pouring on him from the pages of newspapers and the TV screen for the third week now.”
  8. -1
    25 August 2014 22: 50
    Since when are gypsies called Belarusians or Slavs?
  9. -3
    25 August 2014 22: 55
    Belarus is clearly set to reap the cream of the crop thanks to its favorable location and embargo on the import of European products to Russia. Recently, the Belarusian Foreign Ministry has already assured that the concepts of “Belarusian shrimp” and “Belarusian cod” are absolutely legal for export to Russia within the framework of the Customs Union. Although Belarus does not have its own access to the sea. “It is quite possible that we will now encounter “Belarusian apples” of approximately the same origin.”
    As a result, with its sanctions, Russia will help Belarus earn extra money from the growth of imported raw materials and the development of its own processing industry. “It is clear that these are our brothers, and we are members of the Customs Union, but nevertheless it will be ugly on their part.”
    It looks like the brothers really decided to make money on someone else’s misfortune. Sadly crying
  10. 0
    25 August 2014 22: 59
    They already sold it for 30 pieces of silver, but it didn’t do any good!
  11. +1
    25 August 2014 22: 59
    Is all this true? Maybe they want to quarrel us?
    1. -1
      25 August 2014 23: 55
      Unfortunately true. There was a video on the Internet with a Belarusian girl fighting on the side of the militia. She said that at home, in Belarus, a criminal case had been opened against her...
  12. +2
    25 August 2014 23: 01
    The West does not sleep! The West is acting! Politically, economically, informationally!
  13. +4
    25 August 2014 23: 08
    The Old Man, in his geographical location and at his post, pursues an almost error-free policy.
    And even now, as a platform for at least some negotiations, it is necessary.
    And for us too, and for Novorossiya, and therefore cannot afford to be an active supporter of the militia. For yourself - this means for the Belarusian media.
    And he has assumed this role since Poroshenko’s arrival at the inauguration...
    But, at the same time, Belarus is a strong and necessary (mutually) our military-political, and now economic ally in Europe.
    Consequently, driving a wedge between Lukashenko and the “big Russian world” now is sabotage, like “I want to warn you in your ear...”
  14. LCA
    -1
    25 August 2014 23: 35
    Ukraine (like Belarus) since the time of Kievan Rus has been the "Trojan horse" of biblical aggression into the world of Russian civilization. That is why the United States clung to Ukraine, this is their parental home.

    The problem is that the "Old Man" is included in this project (however, like most "elites"); and yet - all of them are for the preservation of the crowd - the "elite" pyramid.

    Question: What is the difference between Ukrainian fascism and Belorussian?
    Nothing, except that he has a Belorussian color, which makes him less visible (moving “silent glanders”) to the ordinary people because the average man is accustomed to reacting to psychotrotsky slogans from the screen “father”, and does not understand the essence of the term “fascism”. All the same animal-instinctive ideals.
    1. nvv
      nvv
      -1
      26 August 2014 16: 21
      Sergey: Why do you do it straight away? No one will understand you.
  15. -1
    25 August 2014 23: 38
    I have never experienced euphoria from Belarusians. Maybe because 70% of them are Catholics? Looks like brothers... All Belarusians who fight on the side of dill, volunteers, are heroes. Criminal cases have been opened against those fighting on the side of Novorossiya... Lukashenko openly supports Ukropov’s Kyiv government. Belarus is the main supplier of fuel to dill. May, June, July - increased supplies several times... However, the last month was slightly reduced. It has undertaken to supply 40 military MAZs to Ukrop by the end of the year. It’s so easy, off the top of my head... And what is Russia doing with vegetable supplies out of Europe? Is this an ally? Are these brothers Slavs? A little more in the ointment... A few years ago I watched the doc. film about the white partisans. It turns out that there were only a few of them, the rest were gangs of thugs. Soviet propaganda made them good partisans. Bitterly.
    1. +1
      26 August 2014 01: 01
      Lack of education is always bitter. There are 15% of Catholics in Belarus. So what? And how many Muslims and Buddhists are there in Russia? Are there bad religions? You talk like a FASCIST. The partisan zone at the time of liberation was more than 60%. LACK OF EDUCATION IS A VERY SAD PICTURE. Delivery of fake MAZs. But the supply of KAMAZ vehicles is NOT FAKE.
      We are not sad because of your dislike for us.
      1. -1
        26 August 2014 19: 17
        Are there too many fakes? Maybe you will admit something after all? And the number of Catholics \for yourself, honestly\ look through the internet. And 26.08. 2014 Lukashenko + Poroshenko - well, just two creatures. Are you familiar with the term: political prostitute? Yes Yes. About my education - don’t need it, you won’t get it.
  16. +1
    25 August 2014 23: 39
    That's right captain! good Simply - There is a need to demonstrate to the world a policy independent of Moscow, so that the “community” cannot exploit the theme - the Kremlin and Putin are crushing allies. And the falsehoods aimed at creating a split between Belarusians and Russians will only increase, and it is necessary to correctly separate the wheat from the chaff.
  17. fisherman
    0
    25 August 2014 23: 44
    [quote=andrew42]Long live Belarus! And good health to Father Lukashenko. Russia itself is surrounded by oligarchs like a Christmas tree surrounded by toys. This is where we go to teach Belarusians. Belarusians themselves will figure out who they want and who they want.[/quote
    sorry plus only 1 can be put good
  18. 0
    26 August 2014 00: 18
    Quote: Scutum
    but Nicaragua in foreign policy has shown itself to be closer to Russia than its native Belarus

    It’s easier for them - it’s already in antithesis with the USA, but geyropa is far away and therefore doesn’t give a damn about it
  19. -1
    26 August 2014 00: 23
    If the meeting does take place, then Poroshenko must continuously gallop throughout the negotiations to show that he is not... Well, how else can he indicate his independence from the oaths of enemies, only by galloping! But dad will have to spread out. However, he has been in this position for a long time.
  20. +2
    26 August 2014 00: 52
    In Belarus there has been propaganda against Russia and Russians for a long time. In order not to be unfounded, I send those who want to make sure to the Brest forum. There they started the topic “Why don’t they like Russians in Brest?” Note that it was launched back in 2010 and is still supported. And this is a city forum, such forums usually die quite quickly, because it’s more interesting to communicate on all-Russian forums. I know this because for a year, on duty, I visited about 50 different forums per month. One of the comments is “It’s interesting how Russians go to the Belarusian forum on the topic “Why don’t they like Russians in Brest” and try to prove something and at the same time support our country. When I get along on Russian forums, I never tell the locals that they, and in general, no one needs this Russian language. That is, I behave decently and for the most part, I read. And then as soon as it’s announced, there’s immediate shit and attempts to prove something to us or make fun of us. That’s why you, Russians, and If they don't like you, you create a conflict situation out of nothing everywhere. You are a walking problem. Belarusians are calm, friendly people, and we are tolerant to the last - that's why they love us everywhere. If you, Russians, were patient and didn't boast about your "Russianness" - you would love us you too."
    1. nvv
      nvv
      +1
      26 August 2014 16: 31
      Tamara, you are wrong. Personally, I believe that Dad preserves the gene pool of the Russian people.
  21. +1
    26 August 2014 01: 17
    injecting Western propaganda with historical context and an attempt to sow discord between Russians and Belarusians. The article is a big minus
  22. 0
    26 August 2014 01: 26
    Quote: polite people
    He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.


    No, he apparently made up his mind. The fact is that he understands perfectly well that after Ukraine, the Americans will take up the democratization of Belarus and the election of a legitimate president. And this means that in order to survive, he will have to be in closer ties with us, the Russian Federation, to defend his position up to the point of joint military action against the countries of the bloc. At the same time, he is afraid of finding himself in a more dependent situation on the Russian Federation or the Russian aligarchy; in short, he keeps his distance by contrasting fictitious assets with the common Soviet and Russian past; in short, he divides us, following the example of Kyiv.
  23. 0
    26 August 2014 01: 26
    Quote: dmitriygorshkov

    Have you read it yourself? Quote from an article:
    “It is very indicative that it is virtually impossible to get any point of view from Belarusian officials regarding their assessment of the activities of Ukrainian, as well as Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian punitive police battalions on the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War: the answer always follows that“ this the topic is undesirable because it can harm bilateral relations "..."
    Is this normal? To deny the killing of his people is NOT an act of filth?

    Why are you barking? So that they are afraid! Why are you wagging your tail? So that you yourself don’t get a wee...ley.
  24. 0
    26 August 2014 02: 34
    Quote: Colorado
    Unfortunately, Russia does not have a single REAL ally. The Peacemaker was right. But 130 years have passed ...

    And here it is: But there are only two of them: ARMY and NAVY! soldier
  25. +5
    26 August 2014 03: 27
    I don’t accept any attacks on Old Man. He has proven his loyalty to the Russian (Eurasian) World more than once. Yes, he is trying to play politics with the junta, which is why he does not allow harsh statements against them. There are already enough statements from our side and, by the way, from the Chinese side.
    Belarus is a small country. AND at the same time sovereign. Forcing Old Man to go 100% in the Russian direction means depriving them of their independence completely. But neither we nor they need this.
    There is no need to kill the opportunity for Old Man to act as a mediator. Let him pursue the policy that he likes in the interests of Belarusians.
  26. -4
    26 August 2014 04: 30
    Let me, as a Belarusian, insert my 3 cents;
    1. Old Man is not an ally, a weather vane will blow from where and turn, it’s funny to even talk about some kind of allied duty, with Old Man you never know when he will “throw you over”.
    2. From a military point of view, Belarus is, to put it mildly, a chimera!
    3. Old Man is an appanage prince, before you is a wonderful example of how 1000 years ago there were appanage princes who led Rus' to fragmentation, Old Man is not eternal, after Old Man Belarus will be “fucked”, there will be a breakdown, the country has fallen behind in its political and let’s be honest, economically. social development is very strong! Most enterprises are subsidized, agriculture is backward and not competitive, the population is aging, young people are being brainwashed, Belarusians are not Russians! I've already heard this somewhere... they're not jumping yet, but they'll start soon!
  27. -3
    26 August 2014 07: 50
    Lukashenko doesn’t understand something about his trip to the polytechnic, so he kisses his enemies
  28. 0
    26 August 2014 11: 00
    Many leaders of the European Union, as well as the presidents of Belarus, congratulated Poroshenko on Independence Day??? and Kazakhstan.??? President Putin did not send congratulations. In my opinion, our closest allies have a strange position.
  29. -2
    26 August 2014 13: 36
    Quote: ZubrMinsk
    So ask Putin why Old Man is silent...

    Did Old Man even take at least one strong step towards Russia’s friend? Maybe he recognized Ossetia (bargained with Russia like ... a duck.) Maybe he helped somewhere in politics as a friend of Russia lent his shoulder. He only bargains and tries to make money on sanctions. No matter how much we criticize the European Union, they stand by each other friend and express a common opinion in relation to this or that situation and also suffer together. And here it turns out that Russia is taking the rap and Belarus is trying to put its own stickers on prohibited European goods and sell them to a friend of Russia. He doesn’t notice the real facts of the death of entire territories. This is not a friend, this is...a duck. But I really like Belarus and God forbid nationalists will raise their heads there. We must remember history and teach it to younger generations.
  30. 0
    26 August 2014 15: 32
    I am Belarusian. And I’m already sick of both the official authorities of Russia and the official authorities of Ukraine. I read this site as absolutely pro-Russian. There is also a similar site, but it is absolutely pro-Ukrainian. Comparing the information, I conclude that everyone has a “snout in the cannon”. The Ukrainian authorities are not a gift, but the Russian authorities are also doing a lot of bad things. It has already been officially recognized that Russian paratroopers “accidentally” ended up on Ukrainian territory. So these are the ones who were caught. It is unknown how many more professional Russian military personnel are fighting on the territory of Ukraine. In general, I am against Lukashenko. But I support his desire not to get involved in this conflict.
    P.S. At work, my friends have a couple of people whose relatives came from Donetsk. So they say that they did not ask for war and do not support the militias. So be less zombied by the Russian media. Many people in Eastern Ukraine do not support the militias. The majority don’t even care about the militia members or official Kyiv.
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  32. +2
    26 August 2014 16: 33
    Quote: Rubon
    Let me, as a Belarusian, insert my 3 cents;

    First change your IP, you are our Belarusian...
    Quote: Rubon
    1. Old Man is not an ally, a weather vane will blow from where and turn, it’s funny to even talk about some kind of allied duty, with Old Man you never know when he will “throw you over”.

    What do you mean by ally duty? Facts and proofs to the studio about violation of such
    Quote: Rubon
    2. From a military point of view, Belarus is, to put it mildly, a chimera!

    Facts and proofs in the studio
    Quote: Rubon
    3. Old Man is an appanage prince, before you is a wonderful example of how 1000 years ago there were appanage princes who led Rus' to fragmentation, Old Man is not eternal, after Old Man Belarus will be “fucked”, there will be a breakdown, the country has fallen behind in its political and let’s be honest, economically. social development is very strong!

    Straight out astrologer Globa. Facts and proofs in the studio
    Quote: Rubon

    Most enterprises are subsidized, agriculture is backward and not competitive, the population is aging, young people are being brainwashed, Belarusians are not Russians! I've already heard this somewhere... they're not jumping yet, but they'll start soon!

    Wow, how bad it is! Ahh!!!! Everything is lost!!! Putin made me happy!!!!, oh. those. Lukasallied!!. Facts and proofs to the studio.

    Z.y. After a day of reading such comments, the resentment went away. Because first of all you need to be offended only at yourself. Even if the articles are custom-made, the level of comments is disappointing. So I'm not working hard. I'm not getting across the normal point of view. On the other hand, I am pleased with the backing track of such comments and normal, balanced reasoning.

    Z.y. but 70% of Catholics were killed... Maybe he got confused with Lithuania or Poland???
    1. -1
      28 August 2014 05: 07
      Gomselmash, the fact that I currently live in the states does not mean that I am not a Belarusian, I’m not going to argue with you about Father’s eternity, about all the other “Fakhty” at the studio, look around you and you will see everything.
  33. +1
    26 August 2014 17: 59
    at the meeting, Putin pointed to re-exports from Belarus - and how should this be understood? Is Belarus a reliable partner? it turns out like this - they buy at bargain prices in Europe (well, they can do it there for nothing - there’s nowhere to put the goods) and then resell goods like “made in Belarus” to Russia... it’s never been called anything other than profiteering... and tell me now that comrade. Alexander Grigorievich is “not in the know”, “doesn’t know”... is this a “reliable partnership”? Poroshenko posed for the camera like brothers forever..
    and now - minus for your health....

    P.S. where is the list of friendly actions of the Republic of Belarus towards Russia since 2008, at least for the last 2 years?

    P.P.S. I have nothing against Belarus itself - Belarusians are a fraternal people, the question is only for the leader...
  34. Bob
    0
    26 August 2014 20: 13
    “...And why doesn’t the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punitive forces beat in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?”
    It’s not easy to answer, but you can try - Lukashenko cares for the interests of Belarusians, and not for the interests of Russians, so he will never become the head of the Russian world. But what he is truly afraid of is losing his power over Belarus. He put the princely interests above the general ones, so he is playing a political game that should bring Lukashenko’s son to the throne, and create the most comfortable conditions for Belarusians in the conditions of agonizing capitalism. However, we must admit that this is a losing strategy for the Russian world, and ultimately for Belarusians. What is the strength in, brother....? And the truth is not on the side of Poroshenko, and even more so of Merkel and Obama - the leaders of the West and the instigators of this conflict.
    Greeting and kissing Poroshenko, who is killing the people of the South-East, is the same as sharing bread and shelter with the punitive fascists who burned Khatyn. Those who were in Khatyn will understand my words - it is not forgotten, it will never die in the memory of those who visited these places...
  35. smurnoi
    0
    27 August 2014 03: 05
    "The pain of those old days
    Still alive in every heart,
    In each of our families
    The small children of Khatyn are with us."
  36. 0
    27 August 2014 03: 36
    -Eh, this “meeting” in Minsk is very dangerous and untimely... -It is beneficial only to the dill... -Now any stop in hostilities will only benefit the dill... -during this time they will raise new forces and equipment and hit the militias...
    -And if Putin also makes some “concessions”, accepts some “conditions from Poroshenko”... then it’s all a mess... -All the victories of the militias will become simple... - “down the drain” "...
    1. LCA
      0
      27 August 2014 19: 27
      Putin called the terms of the ceasefire by the parties an internal matter of Ukraine itself.
      At a meeting with journalists, V. Putin clarified that at a bilateral meeting with Poroshenko, the conditions for a ceasefire in Ukraine were not discussed in detail - the Russian Federation did not put forward and cannot put forward conditions for resolving the situation in Ukraine.

      “We, Russia, cannot talk about any ceasefire conditions, possible agreements between Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk,” Putin said.

      “We can only help create an environment of trust during this possible and, in my opinion, extremely necessary negotiation process,” the Russian president added.
  37. LCA
    0
    27 August 2014 19: 32
    Not only “Minsk has been offered two scenarios: Maidan and Crimean,” but the whole of Europe is facing this choice, and the “elites” of the former Soviet republics, no matter how late it is, for a peaceful future scenario. Now it becomes clear why Putin, in 2013, so persistently tried to call Ukraine into a single economic space. This was the last opportunity for a peaceful transition for its population to a common future.
  38. 0
    27 August 2014 20: 02
    Yes, dad is spinning something. But a reshaping of consciousness is underway in Belarus. Not as persistently and quickly as in Ukraine. But it goes. And this is scary and painful. If only you could make up your mind sooner, Dad!
  39. 0
    27 August 2014 21: 24
    Russia has allies, of course......- you wouldn’t wish it on your enemy(
    For me, this Eurasian Federation would be closed, and all cases are based on advance payment and on a general basis. Why the hell do we need these brothers? Everything will be merged...
  40. 0
    28 August 2014 08: 48
    After the meeting - one on one: