About a warm understanding between Lukashenko, Poroshenko and ... Bandera.

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About a warm understanding between Lukashenko, Poroshenko and ... Bandera.


In the entire post-Soviet space, the name of the Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko is respected and respected. Not least due to the fact that he, despite the sometimes very difficult foreign policy situation and the economic difficulties caused by it, is always able to provide a decent life for the citizens of his country.

But then the war began in the South-East of Ukraine and Alexander Grigorievich as if they were substituted: in the words of the unforgettable Taras Bulba, he literally began to “mess around” with the Kiev junta ... And this is when, in the cities of the burning Donbass, civilians died at the hands of the punishers in Kiev, and hundreds of thousands of survivors flee to Russia.

Without the permission of "But father", no dog will bark ...

In Belarus, they rightly say that "without the permission of" But father, "no dog will bark ...". Thus, the point of view of the official state media of Belarus can rightly be considered the point of view of the Belarusian president himself.

So, these media present dramatic events in the South-East of Ukraine as a result of the internal political squabbles of short-sighted politicians and conflicts between oligarchs, who are once again trying to redistribute property.

At the same time, it is not possible to learn about the true causes of the uprising in the Donbass region, the crimes of the Nazi-Bandera Kiev junta, the struggle of the people of Donbass against the Kiev punitive troops. For a long time, the Belarusian TV channels called separatists to militia in Kiev’s tone and only recently switched to a more correct one — the rebels.

There is not only an all-out desire to deprive fellow citizens of the right to the truth, but also the desire to impose blame for inciting hatred between the Slav brothers equally on the Ukrainian and Russian media.

Here is just one example of such a “warm attitude” to the Kiev junta: so, the newspaper “Sovetskaya Belorussia” 19 August 2014 g .:

- Yesterday, Ukrainian media reported terrible news: A column of refugees in the Luhansk region was shelled from mortars and Grad multiple rocket launchers. In the information center of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, responsibility for this was laid on the rebels. There are many victims, their exact number is being specified ...

Thus, she fully quoted the official Kiev's messages, without even bothering to check the accuracy of this delusional information.

In the same way, the Belarusian mass media quotes in large quantities the reports of the Kiev officialdom about how the militia themselves allegedly bombard those cities that they protect.

And let it be that no one believes in this feverish deception, except the authors themselves, Kiev journalists and some of the utterly foolish people in Central and Western Ukraine ... It seems that President Lukashenko is very necessary to preserve the "friendship" with the Kiev junta so that ... Why? , that is the question?

The answer, unfortunately, is obvious: all the assurances of loyalty to Russia and statements about unity with the Russian people, repeatedly voiced by Lukashenko, are in fact a disguise. As before, the Belarusian president probably expects to receive concrete material benefits in exchange for gradual changes in his position regarding the assessment of Kiev’s crimes and the reduction of his support.

And at this time for many years in Belarus distort and distort history, extolled by the Polish kings and Lithuanian princes. It is significant that the number of references to the mass heroism of Soviet citizens on the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War decreases every year, and the official media prefer to say expressions like “Belarusian people”, “Belarusian partisans”, “citizens of Belarus”, etc. Dos to the point that this year on the Victory Day in Belarus “it was not recommended” to use St. George symbols.

Of course, in Belarus, all this Russophobic activity is not as aggressive as in Ukraine. But this activity is conducted very systematically, using the entire state mechanism, which makes it effective.

After all that has been said, it is not at all surprising that President Alexander Lukashenko does not notice, or at least pretends not to notice, Nazi symbols on the banners of Ukrainian punitive battalions and the neo-Nazi rhetoric of the Kiev authorities ...

But what is absolutely outrageous, he prefers not to notice that there is a humanitarian catastrophe in the cities of the South-East of Ukraine: even in those days when Ukraine tried its best to prevent the Russian humanitarian convoy to Lugansk and Donetsk, the official Minsk kept silent. And, of course, he still does not even provide moral support to the belligerent Donetsk and Lugansk ...

Blood and ash

Meanwhile, this behavior of the Belarusian president seems altogether blasphemous, if we recall the history of the atrocities of the Ukrainian punitive battalions on the territory of the republic during the Great Patriotic War.

This is what Alexey Litvin, Doctor of Historical Sciences, writes about them in his work “Blood and Ashes”:

- In numerous documents and materials on the history of the partisan movement and the underground struggle in the republic there is information about the so-called “Ukrainian” police officers who acted in Minsk and throughout Belarus.

In the summer of 1941 in Minsk, a separate police battalion of 910 people was formed from among the prisoners of Ukrainian nationality released from the camps of Minsk and the surrounding area.

From the documents available in the National Archives of the Republic of Belarus, it can be seen that already on July 10, a police battalion of 1941 people was formed in BN. 481, mainly from the Ukrainian military and those who pretended to be Ukrainians. In August, the battalion arrived in Minsk. It was located in the former art school at Komarovka and was originally called the 1-m battalion, and then was renamed the 41-th. Somewhat later, in Minsk, the 2 th “worker” battalion was formed from the Ukrainians - later the 42 th. Both numbered 1086 people.

On the territory of Belarus on 1 July 1942, there were 13 shutzmanshaftbatalonov total number of more than 7,5 thousand people. These are 3, 12 and 15 are Lithuanian; 18, 24, 26, 266 “E” - Latvian; 46-th, 47-th, 48-th "E", 104-th, 201-th - Ukrainian; 36 is Estonian.

In October, 1941, the 1-th company of the 41-th battalion took part in the execution of the Jews. In Moscow, this fact became known from the Minsk underground activist R. M. Bromberg, who, together with the N. M. Nikitin partisan brigade, in the autumn of 1942, went into the disposition of the Soviet troops.

According to A. V. Larionov, “The 42 Battalion, in part, went to work on the railway all winter, cleared the snow, unloaded and loaded the wagons. During the winter period, both battalions were armed several times and then disarmed, which was explained by the unstable moral and psychological state of the personnel. Until May 1942, there were no mass transitions to the partisan detachment. The massive transition began in May 1942. Both battalions were commanded by Zalevsky - the organizer of the Ukrainian battalions. Zalevsky - junior lieutenant of the Red Army, Yaschenko acted along with him, it seems, the quartermaster. The whole garrison was headed by German Gummer, who spoke Russian well. According to rumors, he is the captain of the Red Army, who emigrated to Germany in 1939
year.

The following repressions were applied to the personnel: in October 1941, 12 people drank and began to sing Soviet songs. The Germans put them on the guardhouse, and after flogged them with rods. If someone fails to come to the battalion in time or does not pay honor, they beat them with sticks.

The uniform of the Ukrainian battalions is mainly the Red Army, with the exception of the yellow material on the caps, and later the personnel of the 41 battalion were dressed in Lithuanian uniforms. ”

Here is what was written in the detailed memorandum “On the situation in Minsk”, prepared in January 1943 by the future academician of the Academy of Sciences of the BSSR I. S. Kravchenko, at that time a responsible employee of the Belarusian headquarters of the partisan movement: “In Minsk itself there is a battalion consisting exclusively of Ukrainians numbering up to 700 people.

The moral sustainability of these "volunteers" is extremely fluctuating. In March 1942, as a result of the decomposition of this battalion, part of it fled. Over 150 people were arrested by the Germans and shot. A small battalion is available in Minsk and now. The population treats the soldiers of this battalion with hatred.

For example, these “volunteers” do not sell anything on the market, arguing that bread is not sold to traitors. The population declares: "Let the Germans feed you."

It should be noted that part of the territory of Belarus (some districts of the Brest, Pinsk and Polesye regions) was included in the Reich Commissariat "Ukraine".

There were stationed police battalions, which were subordinate to the highest commander of the SS and the Ukraine-Russia South police.

We list only some facts that are known to us about the activities of the Ukrainian police formations in Belarus.

201-th guard police battalion.

It was created at the end of 1941, from the personnel of the two Ukrainian battalions disbanded in the fall, Nachtigall and Roland. The place of formation of the battalion was Frankfurt (Oder).

The Ukrainians were admitted to the battalion, who agreed to serve the Germans as mercenaries. 1 December 1941 of the year they signed a contract for one year, without taking the oath. In essence, it was a typical German police security force. By the same principle, virtually all the "Eastern" police battalions were organized.

Personnel wore German police uniform and German decals. They were forbidden to use national symbols. In fact, only the Nachtigall and Roland battalions were "real Ukrainian".

In March 1942, the 201 th battalion was sent east, but not to the territory of Ukraine, as volunteers expected, but to Belarus, where, together with other similar formations, he guarded the routes of communication in the Mogilev-Vitebsk-Polotsk triangle and fought against the partisans.


30 September 1942 of the year sixty police officers of the 201 th guard battalion escorted a convoy of ammunition and fuel from Lepel to the Ushachi garrison. North of d. Zary the column was suddenly fired upon. The guards immediately launched a counterattack and destroyed, according to the German report, “51 thug, seized 3 machine guns, explosives, fuses. Own losses were 2 man killed and 5 wounded. "

The commander of the convoy, officer of the 201 Battalion, after the battle, ordered the wounded to be taken by ambulance back to Lepel. To escort, he singled out a 21 police officer in two cars under the command of an officer. South of the village of Zary, the partisans attacked this transport and almost completely destroyed it. Only 9 policemen managed to get through to their own. The results of this fight were analyzed in Berlin for a long time. In a message from G. Himmler to A. Hitler, No. 36 of 3 in November 1942, it was stated:

"Territory Russia" Center ". The results of the battle of the 201 police battalion north of Lepel: Enemy losses - 89 man killed, 20 man injured. Trophies: 4 automatic rifles, 2 mortar, 2 assault rifle, 41 rifle, 200 kg of explosives, 36 min, 130 hand grenades, 10000 ammunition. Own casualties: Killed: - German soldiers 4 and local police 22.

In December 1942, the 201 Battalion was disbanded, and its Ukrainian officers were escorted to Lviv, where they were imprisoned. Some of them, including Roman Shukhevych, managed to escape and join the Ukrainian nationalist forces.

102-th Ukrainian police battalion.

In the autumn and winter of 1942, the 102, 115 and 118 Ukrainian police battalions arrived in Belarus, which received a new numbering (1943, 61, 62) at the end of 63.

The first, as is clear from the diary of the fighting of the 23 German police battalion, on October 24 of 1942, the 102 Ukrainian Police Battalion arrived in Pastavy, which was to replace the 2 company of the Lithuanian police battalion No. 254 "E". 3 November 1942, a Ukrainian police company was deployed in the village of Kozyany, north of Postavy, where a day later partisans attacked and lost 20 people killed.

In May 1943, the 102 Battalion participated in Operation Cottbus. He was given the team SD-3 led by Untersturmführer Gruz. After the operation, the battalion received an order to arrive at Stolbtsy to change the 12 of the Lithuanian police protection battalion in the Uzda-Shatsk-Kopyl area.

115-th Ukrainian police battalion.

According to the history of the Lenin partisan brigade of the Baranavichy region, on October 23, 1942, in the village of Ruda Yavorskaya (Lipichanskaya Pushcha), the 115-th Ukrainian battalion arrived to perform the functions of the police garrison. The guerrillas of the Bulat (“Orlyansky”) and Aleksandrov detachment “utterly routed the nationalists on the night of 25. X.1942 G. "

118-th Ukrainian police battalion.

In December, the 1942 Ukrainian Police Battalion arrived in the territory of the republic 118, formed in Kiev mainly from former Ukrainian prisoners of war [12]. The battalion was commanded by German Erich Körner and a former White Guard officer, a major of the Polish army, Pole Konstantin Smovsky. As in the other shutzmanshaftbatalonahs, the German officers led all of them, teams and orders of which were duplicated by officers and non-commissioned officers from among the former Soviet military personnel. The Germans were also financiers, quartermaster and heads of other non-combat services. Upon arrival at Pleshchenitsy, the post of chief of staff of the battalion instead of Korniyts who escaped to the partisans was occupied by Grigory Vasyura, the former head of communications of the 67-st. Fortification.

From the first days of its appearance until the summer of 1944, the 118 Battalion left its ominous traces on the territory of Belarus. Even before the burning of Khatyn, there were a number of savage operations on his account.


Together with the gendarmerie and the local police, the Ukrainian renegades broke into the village of Chmelevichi, Logoisk district, where they killed three residents and burned 58 houses.

During the next operation, which was led by the battalion chief of staff G. Vasyur and the chief of the 3 company, the Hauptmann, Hans Velke, the 16 residents of the villages of Koteli and Zarechye were killed. 40 homes have been turned to ashes.

The whole world knows about the tragedy of Khatyn. However, for a long time the whole truth was not spoken about her.

It was silent about the fact that the 118-th Ukrainian police battalion was the chief executioner. This was convincingly proved at the trial in Minsk. As in a number of similar operations, in Khatyn the policemen acted shoulder to shoulder with the SS battalion, commanded by the Nazi executioner-sadist Dr. Oscar Dirlivanger.

The 51, 52 and 53 Ukrainian battalions.

The 51 Battalion guarded the peat plants around Minsk, and after Operation Cottbus (May-June 1943 of the year) it was to be replaced by the Lithuanian Police Battalion 12. There is also little information about the 52-m Ukrainian police battalion. It is mainly mentioned in the German force reviews for the 1942-1943 years.

54-th Ukrainian police battalion.

According to 1 on May 1943, it was deployed in Lida. The battalion took part in the punitive operation "Cottbus" and then was incorporated into the 31 police regiment.

55-th Ukrainian shuttsmanshaftbatalon.

According to May 1 and June 28 1943, the battalion was stationed in Mogilev. Submitted to the authorized SS Reichsführer to combat the partisans von dem Bahu-Zelewski.

57-th Ukrainian police battalion.

In May 1943, the battalion took part in the punitive operation “Lightning” and
in particular, in the destruction of the village of Zastarinye, Novogrudsky district. The battalion surrounded the village. The Nazis drove all the inhabitants of the village into houses and burned alive. A total of 287 people were destroyed. The same fate befell the village of Zapolye
and yatra.

After the operation “Cottbus” the battalion was sent to Baranavichy “to protect and harvest the crops and destroy the gangs that appeared there. In all cases, blocking the gang's way to the south "

As it appears from the report of the Pervomaisk partisan brigade of the Baranavichy region for March 1944, the 57-th Ukrainian battalion arrived at the Settlement and the 56-th battery attached to it to the total number of thousands of people. On their basis, together with the local police and the “Samakhovai” (1 people) and the Germans (150 people), a regiment was created. The garrison of the Settlement had 23 wedges, 2 armored vehicles and five 8-millimeter guns.

50-th Ukrainian police battalion.

He also left a trail of blood on the territory of Belarus, although he was stationed in Vilnius. The battalion took part in the major operation “Winter Magic” against partisans and the population of the Rossony-Osveisk partisan zone in the Sebezh-Osveya-Polotsk triangle (Drissensky, Osvey, Polotsk and Rossony districts), which was carried out in February-March 1943. The purpose of the operation was to create a “neutral zone” 40 km wide on the border of Latvia and Belarus.

The fighting took place from February 14 to March 20 1943. The operation involved ten police battalions, eight of which were Latvian, as well as Lithuanian 2 and Ukrainian 50, motorized units of gendarmerie, communications and artillery, special purpose 2 group. From the north and south, the area of ​​operation was surrounded by units of the 201 th guard and 391 th training and field divisions.

In the report on the operation in detail, by day and hour, you can trace the activities of almost every unit. In total, 3500 local residents were destroyed and burned alive during the operation, 2000 people were hijacked to hard labor in Germany, more than 1000 children were sent to the Salaspils death camp (Latvia). 158 settlements were looted and burned, including the villages of Abrazeevo, Aniskovo, Buly, Zhernoseki, Kaluta, Konstantinovo, Paportnoye, Sokolovo and others burned down with people. Khatyn was destroyed two days after the completion of this operation - March 22 1943.

During the “Winter Magic”, very brutal methods were used to clear mines and roads.

The Nazis drove ahead of themselves on a mined road or minefield a crowd of local people, forced the surrounding residents to harrow dangerous areas. There are numerous cases of death or injury of the local population during these barbaric actions.

According to reports, on November 18 of the year 1942, a Ukrainian police battalion also took part in a punitive action on the territory of Belarus.

The materials of archival funds unequivocally testify: the Ukrainian police formations have stained themselves with grave bloody crimes on the Belarusian land.

Why is the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punishers not beating in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?

It is significant that it is practically impossible to get any point of view from Belarusian officials on their assessment of the activities of the Ukrainian, as well as Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian punitive police battalions in the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War: “this topic is undesirable because it can harm bilateral relations "...

But back to today.

With the so-called Ukrainian “president” Petro Poroshenko, everything is clear: he has become a worthy successor to the ideology and affairs of Stepan Bandera.

Under his leadership, the strategy of Hitler's warriors to destroy the peaceful population of the surrounding cities was creatively reworked and: if the fascists bombed Leningrad and bombarded it with heavy guns, they also tried to prevent food from being delivered to the besieged city, Poroshenkov’s punitive troops now use Grady, "Hurricanes", "Tornado" and tactical missiles "Tochka-U". And do not miss the humanitarian convoys.

The undoubted "know-how" of modern Ukrainian kkarately is the use of reconnaissance and sabotage groups in cars armed with mortars that move around the besieged cities, shelling civilians. Probably Adolf Hitler would just die of envy if he were alive ...



All this happens under the slogans: "Glory to Ukraine!", "Glory to the Heroes!", "Ukraine need a mustache!", "Death to the enemies", with which the Ukrainian nationalists committed their crimes.

But if Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych killed in the past, Petro Poroshenko, having adopted their ideology and methods, killed in the present, how did the Belarusian president turn out to be in this “company”?

After all, it is simply impossible to assess his current policy with respect to Neo-Bandera Kiev ...

And why the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punishers does not knock in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?
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  1. +17
    25 August 2014 14: 50
    He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.
    1. +121
      25 August 2014 14: 53
      Ukrainian runs into Belarus:
      - Here we have everything in Ukraine. They found bread, coal, and all sorts of ores, and even oil in the Carpathians. And you? Only one potato is there. . .
      “Yes,” the Belarusian replies.
      - You're right. During the war, the Germans even had to import policemen from Ukraine.
      1. +97
        25 August 2014 14: 59
        Unfortunately, Russia does not have a single REAL ally. The Peacemaker was right. But 130 years have passed ...
        1. +24
          25 August 2014 15: 33
          Hmm ... Lukashenko is playing the game ... Waiting for subsidies like from Russia ... So from the West !!! But you can’t sit on two chairs ... Only a distinct position !!! And no matter how I would like it differently ... Russia is the main sponsor of the Belarusian economy !!! So I think with the definition of questions will not arise !!!
          1. Cadet787
            +8
            25 August 2014 16: 11
            Not even what to say, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.
            1. nvv
              nvv
              +3
              25 August 2014 16: 56
              Quote: Cadet787
              Not even what to say, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye.

              What are you talking about, Cadet? Open your eyes. The author put next to the man who saved the country from collapse, next to the scum. Even this should have been alarming, not to mention the content. Read the title.
              1. DMB-88
                +25
                25 August 2014 17: 02
                Dear Belarusians Brothers!
                Remember that the opinion of many corrupt Russian media and their henchmen does not always coincide with the opinion of the Russian People, but more often these opinions are completely opposite!
                We are with you and for you !!! Peace to you and prosperity !!!
                1. +9
                  25 August 2014 23: 15
                  Quote: DMB-88
                  Remember that the opinion of many corrupt Russian media and their henchmen does not always coincide with the opinion of the Russian People, but more often these opinions are completely opposite!

                  +100500. Everything is logical - first a wedge is driven between Ukrainians and Russians, now it is necessary to drive a wedge between Russians and Belarusians. And then the entire Slavic world will plunge into a showdown, which only plays into the hands of the enemies. In politics, one must be able to read between the lines, and "facts" can be interpreted in different ways.
                  1. +16
                    26 August 2014 01: 56
                    And who drove a wedge between Ukrainians and Russians? We, or what !? Did we jump in the squares, shouting "yaku to gilyak"? We read this, trembling with joy - "We will never be brothers" !? That, in our media, albeit not the most honest, hatred of the Ukrainian people is exaggerated? Or Belarusian? What is the author wrong? In that he warns about the possibility of a repetition of the Ukrainian scenario in Belarus? And flirting with Poroshenko, and not supporting ALL steps of Russia in the Ukrainian crisis, and not recognizing Crimea as a part of Russia? Is there anything else missing? And why is the word "facts" in quotation marks? DO YOU deny the genocide of Bandera in Belarus during the war? Then, probably, you made a mistake with the site - welcome to "Censor" - there you will be welcomed!
                    1. 0
                      28 August 2014 00: 31
                      It would seem that one should not ignore the "tricks" or even simply rudeness towards Russia on the part of President Lukashenko, because he is our ally "de jure", but what a quirk, but if you look "de facto"!
                      And where does the whole Belarusian people, who wants to quarrel, is a simple substitution of concepts, to identify the entire nation with its president!
                      The people are not wooden soldiers of Oorfene Deuce and are unlikely to forget or forget their history, it’s another matter that the president has enormous power and what he wants to do with his people and where to turn ..!
                      In Ukraine, we see where he was turned for 23 years, and more than one president, a whole cohort (they are now grouped together in the media), but the goal was the same and here he is fascism in its purest form with emblems, greetings, awards, and most importantly, its bestial guise of pogroms, killings and genocide of civilians, especially in SE, hatred of Russia.
                      In Russia, they did not notice or did not want to notice that it was "ripening" in Ukraine, now we will wait for something like this in Belarus and be modestly silent, so as not to offend the "dad", but let him wind his 23 years, look, not only ribbons will be banned ..!
                      President Lukashenko does not last forever who will succeed him, but the question is, aren't those who put sticks in the wheels of Russian-Belarusian cooperation in the name of Gay Europe?
                      And if you say that this is impossible, then look
                      to Ukraine and with whom today are Mr. Lukashenka's "de facto" warm relations! ???
              2. +15
                25 August 2014 18: 43
                Quote: nvv
                Open your eyes. The author put next to the man who saved the country from collapse, next to the scum. Even this should have been alarming, not to mention the content. Read the title.

                Have you read it yourself? Quote from an article:
                “It is very indicative that it is virtually impossible to get any point of view from Belarusian officials regarding their assessment of the activities of Ukrainian, as well as Latvian, Lithuanian and Estonian punitive police battalions on the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War: the answer always follows that“ this the topic is undesirable because it can harm bilateral relations "..."
                Is this normal? To deny the killing of his people is NOT an act of filth?
                Well, well! Tomorrow you have nvv (4) SU police and SS formations of dill liberators of Belarus will become!
                1. +10
                  25 August 2014 18: 58
                  yes everything is true, the Old Man will play out to the point that the GDP is turned away from him, and Piiipets, trumps in his sleeves will run out, and Lukash will not be interested in the West without Russia, he’s the only one ...
                  1. +6
                    25 August 2014 22: 28
                    The West needs territory and not a ruler!
                2. +5
                  25 August 2014 20: 49
                  There is no need to lie, the people have not forgotten anything. You judge Belarus by the mongrels on the Internet, and by the articles of "political scientists" who have never been to Belarus, and this is in vain. Fascists in Belaya Rus are beaten, except, of course, Minsk, where all the experience and gathered.
                  PS This, of course, is not according to the charter, but I gave you a "minus". For panic, mister marshal.,
                  1. +2
                    25 August 2014 21: 39
                    except, of course, in Minsk, where all the experiences have gathered.

                    And on our forum, "experience" also does not sit. Basically, it is not Muscovites who write ...
                3. Victor R
                  0
                  26 August 2014 15: 26
                  And what was the denial? Reset the address, only official. Old Man kept the entire social network, didn’t let our nouveau riche, he doesn’t take bribes ... But by this, he is not offended by the state. How much longer to sit in the trench, looking back at a large neighbor? It's time to find your face. He doesn’t earn money in offshore companies. He doesn’t drown his motherland in doges, he works on a peasant basis, lives on incomes. Walks on the earth. And the fact that he communicates with a bucket, so behind this brow are millions of ordinary people, with their joys and troubles, children and old women. In general, a bad world is better than a good quarrel.
              3. +9
                25 August 2014 20: 28
                Yes, there is no such thing in the article. The author will say this: he is trying to be on the alert about Lukashenko’s attitude to actions in Ukraine, including state ideology in Belarus in relation to Russia, including through the media. Moreover, Ukraine is a vivid example of what this can lead to, flirting with the memory of the people is not brought to good.
              4. +2
                25 August 2014 22: 23
                Everything is written there correctly! And about the present and the past! On May 9, Gergiev’s ribbons were banned, only red-green ribbons!
                1. +2
                  27 August 2014 13: 46
                  Don't lie about the ban on St. George's ribbons on May 9 in Belarus. This was not. Someone who seems to be responsible from the Belarusian Republican Youth Union in Gomel, seemingly sent a circular to the cells in the schools of Gomel, something in order to prevent the type of provocations, let's put on ribbons in the colors of the national flag, that is, red-green. And that's all. And already the "media" inflated this soap bubble. In Polotsk, on the Mound of Memory, there were both St. George ribbons and red-green ones. True, I myself saw that volunteers handed out red-greens. But I bought the Georgievskaya Ribbon in a department store, freely, attached it to my clothes and no one said a word to me. And by the way, it's not a fact that there were more red-greens.
              5. -1
                27 August 2014 22: 27
                The elements of dictatorship are clearly visible in the methods of government of "Father". “No dog will bark without the permission of the father,” and this is true. he has been illustrating his media for a long time. And the Nazi ideology is closer to the dictatorial regime. And while it is scary to open your mouth, it is better to be silent, forgetting that sometimes silence is more eloquent than speech!
            2. Cadet787
              +5
              25 August 2014 19: 58
              Not a humorous argument broke out, the supporters and opponents of the Old Man, please calm down, time will judge everyone, and the swara between us is only to the advantage of our enemies. With respect to all conflicting parties.
          2. +1
            25 August 2014 18: 04
            Russian loans make up 4,2-4,6% of the state debt of Belarus. Moreover, these are mainly short-term and rather heavy loans. The main lenders are international currency funds, China, Germany. The most preferential, at 2-3% and long-term Chinese loans worth $ 17 billion. So the main sponsor is China.
            1. +16
              25 August 2014 18: 33
              Oh well! The Chinese always provide related loans. I explain: you don’t see the money, but you order some work and equipment to carry out these works from China. Together with labor from the same country for a given amount. Moreover, the Chinese can set any amount for all these positions using your defenselessness. How is it in Minsk? have the Chinese built an industrial park? and the car factory? And how many of them have bred in Belarus? But the money will have to be paid on this loan alive.
              Russian loans are presented in real money, but you are silent about the supply of oil and gas at preferential prices in quantities far exceeding the needs of the country itself. And here is a fertile time for Lukashenka. You can turn the scam with "solvents", or you can, as now, organize the supply of fuel for the Ukrainian army. But this item of income is already approaching 40% of the budget of Belarus.
              Well, one more thing. Please answer me, why should I, a pensioner myself, help my retired parents in prosperous Belarus from my own pocket? It just so happened that now we live in different countries.
              1. +6
                25 August 2014 21: 37
                For your information - the factory for the production of Chinese machines of the Gelee brand has been open and producing machines for more than a year. And to the question they ran around Belarus - there are fewer of them all over the country than you have in Moscow. I speak as the person who sees it.
              2. 0
                25 August 2014 22: 33
                All right! Many generations of Belarusians will pay for miracle loans!
                1. +2
                  25 August 2014 22: 56
                  Sorry, explain how we will pay and for which loans?
            2. +7
              25 August 2014 20: 14
              The article is strange. Nothing concrete. You have to watch Belarusian TV on an Internet yourself and draw a conclusion. In general, information is regularly spread on the VO portal that spreads hostility towards Belarus, the Belarusian President and the Belarusian people. As well as, unfortunately, the majority of Russian media is about Belarus either badly or nothing. At the same time, there is enough indignation that the Ukro-media is bad about Russia. Foes do not sleep.
              1. +4
                26 August 2014 02: 11
                Not so long ago, a film about Belarus was shown across Russia -24. By the way, very laudatory. They praised the "father" - how he raised the national economy of the country, showed the latest achievements in industry and agriculture. In general, on the central channels nothing bad has been said about Belarusians for a long time - apparently, Putin's taboo. He does not want to lose even an unreliable ally. It is all the more strange to read the shouts of the Belarusians. That way, and in Svidomo not long to turn. As the doctors say: you cannot drive the disease inside, you need to treat it. Well, "but father", apparently, is very afraid of such a doctor as Putin. What if he will be pulled off the throne, and Belarus will be made Belarus again? So it is spinning, not knowing how to show the West its "independence". Not realizing that there is no independence in life in principle.
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          3. +8
            25 August 2014 18: 34
            Yanukovych tried to sit on two benches, and where is he now and what is he? fool
            1. 0
              25 August 2014 23: 06
              sues EU for seized bank deposits in Western banks
          4. wow
            +2
            25 August 2014 18: 50
            Old Man, in essence, is a blackmailer and extortionist.
            1. +2
              25 August 2014 19: 01
              Quote: yo-mine
              Old Man, in essence, is a blackmailer and extortionist.

              wa hahahh, that is, that is ....., but such walk along the blade .., and as a sapper he better not make a mistake ...
            2. Victor R
              +2
              26 August 2014 15: 45
              Who are we then? With our privatization of the 90s, Gazprom is a national treasure, with ministers, defense ministers, Chubais property, and further on the list .., with rubles in each region .., with millions of homeless children with living parents with fucking officials with exorbitant budget salaries. Of course, these are all chips. But chips are from the people. The National Library Foundation, I wonder what hole will they bury? But you just need to build roads in the country ...
          5. +5
            25 August 2014 19: 51
            Not so long ago, one such president also tried to do a circus number - one fifth point in two chairs at once. Something is not heard about him at all ...
            How many years have passed, when there is no USSR, and Mr. Lukashenko promises everything and cannot decide in any way. It’s sad.
          6. Wik69
            +6
            25 August 2014 20: 50
            The market for Russia's neighbor has opened up for him already, but it seems to me that no matter how much the wolf does not feed, he still looks into the forest. From the very beginning, I didn’t like the position of Belarus on the Ukrainian conflict, when he openly called for the Crimea to be taken by force and now his singing along to the Nazis says a lot that you should be quite careful with this potato miracle
            1. +9
              25 August 2014 23: 22
              Quote: Wik69
              From the very beginning, I did not like the position of Belarus on the Ukrainian conflict, when he openly called for the capture of Crimea by force

              Are you cunning Victor or are mistaken. Lukashenko's interview in the Crimea, please see carefully.
              1. +1
                25 August 2014 23: 47
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                Are you cunning Victor or are mistaken. Lukashenko's interview in the Crimea, please see carefully.


                Essential Freudian slip at 1:26.
                1. +2
                  26 August 2014 01: 03
                  Quote: studentmati
                  Essential Freudian slip at 1:26.

                  Perhaps everyone was worried, but sticking an article is not a problem and refer to Freud. But I think you understand the essence of what Lukashenko was talking about.
        2. +26
          25 August 2014 15: 48
          And why the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punishers does not knock in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?

          Lukashenka speaks of his affairs and two decades of governing the country, during which Belarus surpassed pre-perestroika indicators, remained as a sovereign integral state, and the population in it does not come at the expense of migrants, but due to the predominance of fertility over mortality. Moreover, this happens in an environment of circular pressure and an almost economic blockade from the outside. And the fact that they are trying to create an enemy of Russia out of it can be a clever diplomatic move.
          1. +2
            25 August 2014 16: 16
            Sorry, but your statements are in no way compatible with reality. Belarus is one of the leaders in Europe in the number of suicides, mortality prevails over fertility, and production indicators are only on paper. He created a small model of a communist state, with all its pros and cons. The economic miracle of the Republic of Belarus is based on loans and cheap energy carriers in Russia. Without this, the economy will fall apart in a matter of months.
            1. +22
              25 August 2014 16: 39
              And who thought that Belarus was the leader in the number of suicides-Geyropa? Or, as Comrade Stalin said, the main thing is not how to vote but how to count? Do you think what would happen to Great Russia if it were not for the sale of energy, primarily to the West ? Yes, we do not live richly, not like Russia, especially in large cities. And in the rural outback of Russia, in mono-cities, which is also very cool to live there? Therefore, we survive as much as we can and at the same time we sell only what is potash fertilizers, forest, as a renewable resource. Can oil and gas in Russia not be useful to next generations?
              1. +16
                25 August 2014 17: 31
                Hai live Belarus! And good health to Father Lukashenko. We have here the smell of Dagagoy Gossiyania periodically revives. About Russia outside large cities - everything is correct. Our country has clay knees, and we know that. And to find fault with Lukashenka is a sign of “creativity” within the Moscow Ring Road with a claim to the image of an “intellectual”. It has been said that one must judge "by the fruits." Lukashenka is fine with these. It could have been better, of course, but it could have been a hundred times worse. If Lukashenka brought a titmouse to Belarus in his hand, then it is vile and disgusting to howl “why didn’t bring a crane,” besides, from Russia. Ugh, disgrace. Russia itself is in oligarchs like a Christmas tree in toys. We climb there, too, to teach Belarusians. The Belarusians will figure out who they need and who they want.
                1. 0
                  26 August 2014 02: 30
                  This is not clay knees in Russia, but yours, dear. Hail live Belarus, but live better in Belarus. Although, most likely, you live in Ukraine.
              2. 0
                27 August 2014 17: 12
                That's just about the next generations. Supplier of potash fertilizers "Belaruskali" Sligorsk. Due to the lack of funds in the budget (this is even before the dismantling of Belkali and Uralkali), it was decided to build more mines, thereby increasing the production of potash fertilizers. What they were going to mine for 100 years, they decided to work out in 20 years. Of course, no one even thought that no one needed such volumes on the world market. As a result, production increased, prices fell. Now we are selling large volumes, but we receive the same amount as we received initially. In addition, if the metro from Soligorsk to Minsk is not carried out, it will also turn out to be a "dead city" in 20 years.
            2. +1
              25 August 2014 19: 00
              Quote: Swed
              Sorry, but your statements are in no way compatible with reality. Belarus is one of the leaders in Europe in the number of suicides, mortality prevails over fertility, and production indicators are only on paper. He created a small model of a communist state, with all its pros and cons. The economic miracle of the Republic of Belarus is based on loans and cheap energy carriers in Russia. Without this, the economy will fall apart in a matter of months.

              Lukashenko did not create a communist state, but a poorly disguised monarchy.
              1. -1
                25 August 2014 21: 08
                Quote: larand
                Lukashenko did not create a communist state, but a poorly disguised monarchy.

                that's for sure! Talked with people - confirm.
                1. Victor R
                  0
                  27 August 2014 10: 28
                  False. A banal lie.
              2. +1
                26 August 2014 12: 48
                Quote: larand
                Lukashenko did not create a communist state, but a poorly disguised monarchy.

                the Old Man blundered ... forgot about the disguise ... or is it the case here in Russia ... wink laughing
              3. Victor R
                +2
                27 August 2014 10: 26
                Can you compare with the British Elizabeth ... In our post-Soviet space there are better examples? And what will our Russia do at low prices for gas and oil. It’s not a problem to sell gas, the problem is the sustainability of an economy with developed industry and agriculture. And there are so many problems that if you count, you’ll have to take off your shoes.
            3. Victor R
              +2
              27 August 2014 10: 13
              See the number of suicides in the states. Full employment. Yes, socialism, but socialism in Sweden. You just need to read Marx correctly. There will be no support for Russia - one more chiri will grow on the pope of Russia. There is one faith, one language, one culture, Slavic roots ... It is possible and must live together. Old Man introduces a law on the fight against corruption, where property not confirmed by earnings will go to the state. What I wish for.
          2. +13
            25 August 2014 16: 26
            Quote: Z.O.V.
            that they (Lukashenko) are trying to create an enemy of Russia can be a clever diplomatic move.

            Anatoly, congratulations on the "Marshal"!
            I was personally twisted:
            Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych killed in the past, Petro Poroshenko, having adopted their ideology and methods, is killing in the present, then how did the Belarusian president end up in this “company”?

            This is a vile attempt to slander the Old Man, putting him on a par with the Nazis - both former and real. I had the honor of being personally acquainted with him. He is a true patriot of Belarus, and a friend of Russia. Before Putin, we dreamed that we would have the same President as Lukashenko.
            I put a minus to the author, it’s a pity that I can do this only once!
            1. nvv
              nvv
              +4
              25 August 2014 17: 01
              Boa, I bow to your wisdom.
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            3. -1
              25 August 2014 22: 45
              And you live in Belarus, then minus!
          3. +9
            25 August 2014 16: 39
            I don't want to believe that Lukashenka is against Russia. But ... There is a "BUT". I think the "father" understands that the road of Belarus is together with Russia, but fears something similar to a "referendum on joining Russia." The Belarusians have managed themselves until now, let it remain so. And without openly supporting the Russian position, Alexander Grigorievich wants to remain "clean" in front of the EU and distance himself from the reincarnation of the USSR union treaty. For the sake of fairness, I would like to note that his position "not fish - not meat" does not interfere, but does not help the preservation of the Russian world as a whole. And this is "not a gut" ... There is an option that his position was agreed at the highest level. And here a buffer (Belarusian) position is laid on future interaction with Western civilization in the context of a new Cold War, which will surely begin.
            1. 0
              25 August 2014 19: 59
              The words from Vysotsky's song "... and not a friend, and not an enemy, but just like that" are most suitable for characterizing Lukashenko.
              1. +3
                25 August 2014 20: 43
                And this is still better than open hostility (Georgia, Moldova, Ukraine) and obsessive friendliness (Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, etc.). At least predictable and predictable.
          4. Past_ Crocodile
            +1
            25 August 2014 17: 05
            His "success" is no more weighty than that of Kadyrov - they come from Russian subsidies.
            1. +6
              25 August 2014 18: 23
              Well, show me the subsidies. Is gas cheap? Well, the guys from Gazprom do not give discounts for beautiful eyes, Poland with tribalts constantly bark towards Russia, but no one canceled the gas for them. As for Lukashenko, I, too, are not visited by very comfortable thoughts about his communication with the Ukrainian Government. I don’t really like it. Although there is an idea that perhaps this is Putin’s cunning plan - a chance to save these cattle, an opportunity to negotiate with Russia. Regarding Lithuanian and Polish history, the author is lying, this rhetoric is on the decline and not on the rise, in the 90s and 0s it moved much more actively and more strongly.
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                +3
                25 August 2014 20: 10
                The point is not only in gas, but also in marketing products to Russia. The degree of subsidized economy of Minsk from Moscow is shown by Moldova - somehow it does not float to it in a market free of invaders.
                1. +4
                  25 August 2014 21: 32
                  you buy a lot of Russians Belarusian goods (I’m not talking about products), although you will not call me offhand and 5 Belarusian brands of products. But in order to keep a faithful ally with you, you need to help him ...
                  1. +3
                    26 August 2014 02: 43
                    Yes, Russia buys many different goods from Belarus. From what I know - canned vegetables (ustati, very good quality), potatoes, dairy products, shoes, clothes, underwear, cars, tires, sights, etc. Or else to name it? And if they hadn't helped, the economy of Belarus would have collapsed at the beginning of the XNUMXs, and Europe would have overthrown Lukashenka, having put its own man (like our iPhone) in the chair. Crowds of young people in your country were chanting: "Belarus to Europe, Lukashenko to ..." Well, remember where. Moscow then supported the Batka regime, but now, as always, no one remembers this. And again Russia is wrong, like. Lukashenka will never completely turn his back on Moscow - without her support from the khan. You can minus.
                    1. Victor R
                      +2
                      27 August 2014 10: 45
                      Yankees everywhere organize Maidan, swamp areas, orange revolutions. In unstable regions there are many benefits. Raw materials, intellectual resources, credit intervention and the weakening of neighboring states ... A million refugees from Ukraine. Did we wait for them? Now is the time for economic wars. Go to the frontal in the absence of brains. But the dad has one problem - not to let unbridled Russian private capital enter the economy! And this does not suit many.
              2. +2
                25 August 2014 22: 52
                "Regarding Lithuanian and Polish history, the author is lying, this rhetoric is on the decline, not on the rise, in the 90s and 0s it was promoted much more actively and stronger."
                And no! There used to be commercial interests, but now ideological and political! Belarusians go to study in Poland and England! They don’t teach them to love their homeland, that's for sure!
              3. motor66
                +1
                27 August 2014 22: 53
                you do not know much about the Lithuanian past of Belarus. The history of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (GDL) is related to modern Lithuania in about the same way as the Republic of Macedonia to Alexander the Great, except for the name there is little in common. When the present Lithuanians in 1921 separated from Soviet Russia, they demanded that all the historical books of the GDL be returned to them. But there were literate historians "we will return only what is written in the Lithuanian language" and returned some psalter. All other books and laws were written by the ON in the Old Belarusian language. Lithuania at that time is a Slavic state. Yes, there was a struggle between the ON and the Grand Duchy of Moscow. There were two centers of unification of the Slavic lands, but Moscow won, not Vilnia. But to assert that the Lithuanian past is something alien to Belarusians means not knowing history.
            2. +2
              25 August 2014 18: 31
              Yeah, subsidies - as if there isn’t so much — we are raising the price of gas for Belarus.
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                +2
                25 August 2014 20: 04
                "Not so" is an attempt to re-export the resources obtained at a reduced price and the exorbitant personal appetite of the daddy - talk to the end.
                Agree, this is stupid - to sell gas to everyone at 380-400 tugrik / meter, and the Old Man receiving gas at 175, quietly interrupts prices in the market.
            3. +1
              25 August 2014 19: 04
              no, the comparison is not entirely correct, all the Belarusians are working people, but the fact that the Old Man is a demagogue and a political bargain, then do not go to the grandmother ... smile
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                -6
                25 August 2014 20: 02
                Nobody questioned the industriousness of the people, the talk of the cunning of Luke.
                1. Victor R
                  +2
                  27 August 2014 10: 48
                  Try to stand in his place. Being objective is not easy.
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        3. -4
          25 August 2014 16: 03
          There is nothing to feed the sycophants and sycophants ourselves, and then they will be surprised, they say, trouble has come, and our "brothers" and "sisters" have fled somewhere.
          1. +3
            25 August 2014 16: 47
            After such articles, one should not be surprised that the allies are running away from you. Our state cannot provide for its material wealth. We do not have such resources as Russia. Here is Luke and holds neutrality. And apparently this can not reach you.
            1. +7
              25 August 2014 17: 07
              Don't you find it strange that while ensuring the "material well-being" of his citizens at the expense of Russia and "not having his own resources," Lukashenka keeps "neutrality" - but in fact, is trying to play his own party?
              I can imagine two explanations:
              1. But father is a cunning frog trying to play on the contradictions of the neighbors.
              2. In this play he has a role allocated by the senior director, well learned and rehearsed. In fact, Russia needs some kind of "neutral" platform; uncle wiping bloody snot ukram; mediator in the end.
              I really hope for option number 2.
              1. +6
                25 August 2014 17: 16
                It's a pity, but the first option is more like the truth. hi
              2. +4
                25 August 2014 17: 50
                Quote: Moore
                uncle wiping bloody snot ukram;


                The roots of option number 2 lie deeper than it seems. Belarus is subject to the same national virus as well as used Ukraine. It was only thanks to A.G. Lukashenko, who put economy and not nationality in the first place, that the republic remained viable. Of course, in the case of Belarus it is more difficult for the past and present world puppeteers to cross out (more correctly to pull out) the root of RUS from the name of the republic, but they are trying. So Father is silent at the sight of blood. Probably the virus is alive.
                1. +3
                  26 August 2014 02: 05
                  Don't play with concepts like that. If you reproach us that we are striving for our origins, that we are interested in how we historically developed separately from each other ... Then you are also susceptible to this "virus". After all, you are not satisfied with the fact that we did not develop the way you did, remembering only the times of Ros. empire.
                  And the Russia you represented - lies within the borders of Kievan Rus, which was represented by the union of principalities led by Kiev. No more. And the fact that the language and culture were the same - I do not argue. But even then people, not relying on it, thought only about the strength of their own lands. The era of feudalism is the same.
                2. Victor R
                  +2
                  27 August 2014 11: 15
                  If we assume that the virus is swamp, then it sits for everyone. There is also a source of this rubbish. When he treated his own, Europe soared with the Yankees. At that time, we were still playing with them in giveaways. There were reasons for this. Dad had no options. And it was quite likely to get NATO bases near Smolensk. Dill is an example. There is only the beginning. The tale is yet to come.
              3. +1
                25 August 2014 19: 44
                Quote: Moore
                2. In this play he has a role allocated by the senior director, well learned and rehearsed. In fact, Russia needs some kind of "neutral" platform; uncle wiping bloody snot ukram; mediator in the end.

                Good and bad cop?
              4. -1
                25 August 2014 20: 01
                Quote: Moore
                1. But father is a cunning frog trying to play on the contradictions of the neighbors

                I completely agree with that!
                1. +5
                  25 August 2014 23: 19
                  This is called "a sophisticated and wise politician acting primarily in the interests of his country (Belarus), and only then within the framework of geopolitical integration projects."
              5. +5
                26 August 2014 02: 00
                Due to the buns, on one side only, our state has its own mate. wealth will not be able to hold at the required level. We don’t have enough gas on your part, and we won’t be able to withstand sanctions like those received by your state. It’s you who are big and strong and capable of *** with that neighbor with whom you want. We cannot afford such a luxury (otherwise, we would have long made claims to Lithuania about Vilnius (Vilnius), which Stalin gave to the LSSR in the 39th year, which for a long time was the cultural capital of Belarusians, and which at that time had in its population only 1% of those Lithuanians). If this does not reach you, then I have bad news for you.
                1. 0
                  26 August 2014 10: 42
                  Well, of course - an affectionate calf sucks two queens. The key word is "affectionate", and not periodically butting one of the cows.
                  If, after all, option No. 1 (well, I am very opposed to it) - since no one from Father Butks requires cookies in the direction of the EU - it’s enough if you don’t kiss the gums with ghouls. If it is necessary under option number 2 - no questions.
                  Now about Vilnius. And the news is really bad. Claims on what basis? Here is the percentage composition by nationality:
                  year 1897 1916 1941 1959 1970 1979
                  Lithuanians 2,1 2,1 28,1 33,6 42,8 47,3
                  Russian 20,1 1,6 3,6 29,4 24,5 22,2
                  Poles 30,9 50,1 50,7 20,0 18,3 18,0
                  Jews 40,0 43,5 16,2 7,0 4,4 2,3
                  Belarusians 4,2 1,4 0,9 6,2 6,5 6,4
                  About the cultural capital is FIVE. There is a proposal to give the Jews all their cultural capitals in the world.
                  1. +2
                    26 August 2014 17: 03
                    Forgive the Jews, we were driven to us in the imperial years, the place of Jewish settlement was made. But you don’t know much about Vilnius.
            2. +5
              25 August 2014 17: 50
              Quote: liberty
              After such articles do not need to be surprised that the allies are running away from you

              podderzhivayu .. at one time saw here a bunch of similar things to Ukraine. Now they only got to the Republic of Belarus because Father decided not to tear anything (although there was a trade war) and showed an element of "independent" behavior.
              Obviously, there are forces within the Russian Federation that are aimed only at the interests of not capital, but capital. Therefore, they do not need allies.
            3. +1
              25 August 2014 18: 40
              So, if there were resources, then you would be on the other side? Mercantile in Russia syabry. hi
            4. +1
              25 August 2014 19: 08
              Quote: liberty
              After such articles, one should not be surprised that the allies are running away from you. Our state cannot provide for its material wealth. We do not have such resources as Russia. Here is Luke and holds neutrality. And apparently this can not reach you.


              schA so brewed that there is no neutral, either with us or against us ..... angry
              1. +4
                25 August 2014 23: 25
                the paradigm of the Jacobins and Bolsheviks. Neutral means no longer against. Do you want the Old Man to run with anti-Ukrainian slogans ahead of our Zhirinovsky engine? Do not make people laugh. A multipolar world is 500 shades of gray-brown-raspberry, and not black and white cinema, as during the first Cold War.
              2. +2
                26 August 2014 02: 17
                Badly mistaken.
                And besides, one does not need to blame Old Man for being against you. Given the fact that a couple of years ago he chopped off a bunch of growing. channels due to the fact that a couple of them carried a blizzard on him, but at the same time he allows you to twist the remaining ones. channels where in the news they talk about the same as yours. About shelling by the Ukrainian troops of Donetsk, etc.
            5. +4
              25 August 2014 19: 38
              Quote: liberty
              And apparently this can not reach you.
              And before that, many do not "catch up". It's a pity. It is necessary to support an ally, especially since he is an ally by blood, and the facts of betrayal were not noticed behind him. And in our country, many boast of this support and swagger.
            6. Past_ Crocodile
              -3
              25 August 2014 19: 58
              Keeps neutrality to like-minded descendants of those who tortured and killed your countrymen. This is what surprises. And as regards resources, no one reproaches you - just here someone was talking about the economic genius of Lukashenko.
              1. +3
                26 August 2014 17: 10
                The Germans also tortured and killed our countrymen, the Latvians, and, imagine, our countrymen. Then what? If our victims torture you like that, let's remember the Northern War, or the Russian-Polish. We now throw stones at you, or what?
                This is the Russian Federation with Ukraine, wed ***, and not Belarus. We are both bordering on you and are waiting for the states closest to each other to stop pouring mud on each other (reliable and invented) in their media and make peace.
            7. 0
              25 August 2014 20: 08
              the allies a priori cannot run away, the allies can only betray, and fellow travelers, acquaintances, neighbors, etc. can run away.
            8. +1
              25 August 2014 20: 55
              guys, neutrality is generally good, but remembering Khatyn and other villages is generally desirable. negative when drivers start to forget it with their hands ... look above at the events in Ukraine since last November ...
              1. +9
                25 August 2014 21: 13
                Where does it come from that Belarusians do not remember this. Grandfathers and parents spoke about the atrocities of Ukrainians. But in Soviet times it was impossible to talk about it, the friendship of the Soviet peoples. But we also remember how many Ukrainians were among the soldiers-liberators.
            9. Victor R
              +2
              27 August 2014 10: 59
              Brother, do not be angry. It reaches many, but the upbringing of many is different. I have a Udmurt-Belarusian family. In the war, the grandfather of Belarus in 41 died near Sevastopol. The second grandfather - Udmurt political instructor died raising a company near Vitebsk. Buried in a mass grave. There is a surname, initials. The monument is in exemplary condition. Recently. Thank.
        4. 0
          25 August 2014 16: 08
          Besides Santa Claus ...
        5. +6
          25 August 2014 16: 16
          Quote: Colorado
          Unfortunately, Russia does not have a single REAL ally. The Peacemaker was right. But 130 years have passed ...

          Definitely true. But is the position of Great Russia so unique among its surroundings and in time? All great empires paid for the mistakes of power and the fall of morals with their death. And they were torn apart into specific principalities by their servants who had served them faithfully and truthfully, and pieces of these empires were stolen by their neighbors - right up to the poorest ones who swore an allied duty ... Lukashenka's rule had a lot of worthy things: social programs, the fight against corruption, barrier to uncontrolled immigration, rejection of oligarchic capitalism ... And now: the moment of truth is coming! Introduced from outside and aroused own evil in Ukraine manifested itself in the most ugly form. It is necessary to consolidate all the forces of the Russian World, and the Belarusians are a worthy part of it. At first I thought that Lukashenka’s policy was being pursued according to the recipes of a political kitchen, spelled out in coordination with Russian experts headed by Putin ... But watching the work of the Belarusian media ... Few people stand the test of absolute power. In the revived United Russian State, there should not be the slightest reason for its destruction! The number of "presidents" and "ministers" should not exceed the "critical mass" of common sense.
          1. +17
            25 August 2014 16: 47
            Quote: 1812 1945
            Cooks Monarchs do not give birth.

            And Napoleon Bonaparte?
            In 2's, sir, will you get any blue blood? Not? So why do you refuse the teacher the right to govern the state if it was granted to him by the people of Belarus in accordance with the constitution of the country legally?
            Quote: 1812 1945
            And now: the moment of truth is coming!


            The moment of truth will come when in the same trench with Belarus you will ward off attacks by PMC mercenaries. In the meantime, the provocateur is trying to separate us like suckers, and you, sir, are being led by him as a schoolboy who does not have firm convictions!
            It cannot and should not be!
            I believe that an article may soon appear that Lukashenko and Porsenk opposed GDP. And will everyone naively believe that?
            And where is life experience, beliefs and critical perception of information?
            Do not be gullible! This is a provocation. IMHO.
            1. +6
              25 August 2014 17: 56
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              This is a provocation. IMHO.


              I agree . "Old Man" is cunning ... everyone, but not. If he took a position of radical rejection of "kuevskaya vlast", tell me, where would be that springboard for negotiations (bending over) toadies of the State Department ??? Can you find me a couple of options for countries where we are almost at home ?? Politics, her mother.

              And the article is definitely a minus, really "provocation".
            2. +9
              25 August 2014 18: 15
              Quote: BoA KAA
              [
              Do not be gullible! This is a provocation. IMHO.

              And the purpose of this provocation is to embroil our fraternal peoples.
              Beginning with the title and ending with the name of the author (bulbenko) ONE CONTINUOUS PROVOCATION
              The author of the article should be sent to a hospital for experiments; let it benefit society Yes
        6. +8
          25 August 2014 17: 04
          Quote: Colorado
          Unfortunately, Russia does not have a single REAL ally.


          There is no need to judge for the whole country by its leader, and in Belarus there are Natsiks and Russophobes, but in most Belarusians are very nice to Russia and Russians.


          PS in our country there are enough Russophobes and liberalists with them; first you need to solve the problem ...
        7. +7
          25 August 2014 17: 37
          There is. Serbia To do this, you just need to go there and make sure that today there is a CULT of Russia and Putin. And this is after Yeltsin surrendered it.
          1. 0
            25 August 2014 21: 09
            Confuse the elites and the people again. That Serbia, that Bulgaria ALWAYS ready to plant a knife in the back, always on my mind.
            1. +4
              25 August 2014 22: 53
              Contradict yourself. A knife was thrown into the back of Yugoslavia (read Serbia) by Russia (Yeltsin and the state-owned company). I had never considered this shusher to be an elite, but the Serbs had the right to be offended by Russia, namely Russia, and not on Yeltsin’s scoundrels. And after that, such a great attitude.
            2. +1
              25 August 2014 23: 37
              Balkars - yes, these are cunning Gabrovians who will sell their mother to their mother, not like Russia. And about Serbia you are in vain - these are our faithful brothers, genetically. And the oligarchs - they, like bandits of nationality, do not have
            3. Victor R
              0
              27 August 2014 11: 34
              They may not even cover their backs ... Our body is big, sir, what is there to cover? Suddenly they’ll cover it, but not that ... And we’ll decide to scratch this place as well. And we will not notice either Serbia or Bulgaria ... love
        8. +4
          25 August 2014 19: 59
          There is also another expression: "if you want to have a friend - be one."
        9. +1
          25 August 2014 21: 02
          And who is to blame?
      2. nvv
        nvv
        +24
        25 August 2014 15: 03
        Stepan Bulbenko, what is your nationality? And where do you live? I just asked a question on the next branch. Why Putin, Lukashenko are persuaded by deaths about Nazarbayev’s silence. And the articles went ahead of the meeting in Minsk separating our peoples. It seems that the enemies wound up among the people responsible for the publication of the articles.
        1. nvv
          nvv
          +12
          25 August 2014 15: 19
          Isn’t this the sabotage that Novikkov warns about?
        2. 11111mail.ru
          +2
          25 August 2014 16: 52
          Quote: nvv
          It seems that the enemies wound up among the people responsible for the publication of articles.

          It looks like a probe.
        3. Past_ Crocodile
          -3
          25 August 2014 17: 11
          And where does the nationality? In the Kiev junta more than half, there are Jews and Armenians. Among the defenders of the DPR, there are also people of different nationalities. I do not know Bulbenko’s nationality, but I know yours: you are a stupid provocateur.
        4. Victor R
          0
          27 August 2014 11: 39
          Otherwise, immunity cannot be developed.
      3. +9
        25 August 2014 15: 08
        In this he is all:

        "If you try to dissolve us in Russia, to carry out, so to speak, an Anschluss, then you will get such a guerrilla war, in comparison with which Chechnya will seem like a childish matinee to you." - about the possible accession of Belarus to Russia

        "We, as in 1941, are in an enemy ring. The enemies have settled in the leadership of a neighboring state with which we recently signed a community treaty."

        Alexander G. Lukashenko


        Adapted from http://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alexander Grigorievich Lukashenko
        1. +19
          25 August 2014 15: 23
          Doesn’t Old Man understand that if Russia sways, then Belarus will not have to talk about sovereignty anymore ... His EU and the USA will swallow without chewing ...
          "Only in unity is our strength!" It may be a common phrase, but in fact it is correct. One lover of two chairs is already resting in Rostov, but where will the dad run if he does not strengthen the Slavic union?
        2. +24
          25 August 2014 15: 27
          Colleagues, I think you see the tip of the iceberg. Do not rush to draw conclusions.
        3. avg
          -1
          25 August 2014 15: 34
          As soon as father understood that after Yeltsin he would not succeed in becoming the head of the union state, he turned into a hidden enemy of Russia. And if it weren’t for Western anti-Belarusian sanctions, it would have long been an open enemy.
          In addition, he has to take into account the complete dependence of the Belarusian economy and the traditional sympathy of most Belarusians and Russians.
          1. +4
            25 August 2014 23: 53
            As soon as the Bolsheviks realized that the world revolution did not take place, they switched to the model of "building socialism in a single country." So dad quite logically came to the conclusion that one cannot sacrifice one's country for the sake of the most wonderful great neighbor. Alliance does not mean complete submission to other interests - it is always a compromise. We are not America, which wants to be the world's gendarme, but can no longer. And we should not consider A.G. Lukashenko a "hidden enemy" - he is the head of a neighboring state that is allied to us, and not the head of, say, the "Western Federal District of 6 regions", but such is the model of integration (and in fact - the absorption of Belarus by Russia) at one time was carried out in the Russian media
        4. +7
          25 August 2014 17: 38
          Sorry, but what is he wrong with? Maybe Russia ceased to be controlled by a flock of oligarchs? Maybe our Gus oligarchs do not want to take Belarusian assets into their hands? Rubanul, of course Lukashenko is hot-tempered, but he told the truth. Belarus belongs to Belarusians, just as China belongs to the Chinese. There are their own national elites, and there is nothing to blame them, they say, change the master. Enough, passed. Until now, we’ve been hawking from the 90s.
        5. nvv
          nvv
          +3
          25 August 2014 19: 00
          Cherubimchik. Have you got a lot of henbane, or have you read "wiki"? What is unambiguous. Do you have any thoughts? I get on with your "wiki" 12 people have been eating. Do not powder the brains of people, Cherub.
        6. DMB-88
          +3
          25 August 2014 19: 19
          Quote: herruvim
          herruvim


          What rubbish are you pulling this crap from? Are you Belarus !? or are you cosmopolitan, a Trojan horse, so to speak!
          You have already been proven that you are ALWAYS and a "cardboard marshal", and you are again inventing dubious quotes!
          Fu-Fu stinks !!! negative
        7. +6
          25 August 2014 21: 07
          Oh, I'm tired of the imperial thinking of the Russians ... Do you recall the name of the union of Russia and Belarus? Union of Sovereign States.
          PS I am Russian. Born in Stalingrad (it was renamed after my birth). I live in Belarus.
        8. +4
          25 August 2014 23: 43
          And the policy of Russia under the presidency of Yeltsin and Medvedev in relation to brotherly Belarus was very, very difficult to understand in a different way - "we give you money, you are a vassal loyalty to us." And all sorts of other small dirty tricks to neighbors, unworthy of a great power - it was like that, it was
      4. +11
        25 August 2014 15: 54
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Someone is clearly trying to set our people against the Old Man. There have already been so many attempts here, horror. And many are underway. It's a pity.
        1. avg
          +1
          25 August 2014 16: 26
          Quote: Svetlana
          Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. Someone is clearly trying to set our people against the Old Man. There have already been so many attempts here, horror. And many are underway. It's a pity.

          He would have acted differently, so no one would have been led.
          1. +12
            25 August 2014 16: 41
            I am a Belarusian - tell me how our president should behave?
            1. +5
              25 August 2014 17: 46
              At least he could urge Kiev not to use heavy weapons and aircraft against cities. Many things could ...
              1. +10
                25 August 2014 18: 25
                Your president and a bunch of people are calling ... so what?
            2. 0
              25 August 2014 17: 56
              Quote: OlegVoin
              I am a Belarusian - tell me how our president should behave?


              As a man.
              1. +9
                25 August 2014 18: 19
                What is it like? To jeopardize your country? To make Belarusians even more impoverished? Especially now?
                1. +3
                  26 August 2014 16: 52
                  Quote: OlegVoin
                  What is it like? To jeopardize your country?
                  And of course, this is exactly what they want, so that it would be more convenient for the Kremlin Komsomol oligarchs to quarrel with the West and Ukraine, to comunicate "Belkali", for example ..
                  And then Batko, the radish does not turn Belarus into an oligarchy .. laughing
      5. DPZ
        -1
        25 August 2014 17: 21
        Dad forgot about it. sclerosis or dementia. I’d go to Khatyn, not far from Minsk - about 50-60 kilometers in total. might help.
        1. +2
          25 August 2014 18: 29
          And first you come to us in Belarus and live a couple of months, work. Only not in Minsk but in smaller cities. Then speak differently. And about Khatyn and other complexes - would be silent - in Russia you do not even have a close similar.
          1. DPZ
            -1
            25 August 2014 18: 39
            our Motherland gives odds all together. but about Khatyn why keep quiet? on the contrary it is necessary to blow the bell, to beat all the bells so that they remember. if you remember, there would be no current dill.
          2. Victor R
            +1
            27 August 2014 16: 30
            Oleg, the war was not Russian or Belarusian. The war was domestic.
            Recently I was in the Nizhny Novgorod Kremlin. There are T-34, "Katyusha", "Polutorka", submarine cabin ... I write everything with a capital letter. And with this technique the grandfathers won the Patriotic War. We are now separated by borders. But these are the boundaries for politicians. The people are one. Yes, they are trying to brainwash everyone. But if they are, it is difficult to rinse them out.
      6. -6
        25 August 2014 17: 32
        I have long been waiting for articles about this. Lukashenko is a political prostitute, as I have always argued.
        1. +7
          25 August 2014 18: 30
          you have half of the government in Russia like that ... neither ours.
          1. +5
            25 August 2014 21: 03
            why half? in my opinion 80 percent ...
            1. DMB-88
              +3
              25 August 2014 23: 25
              all 146%)))
        2. DMB-88
          +5
          25 August 2014 23: 24
          Quote: INVESTOR
          I have long been waiting for articles about this. Lukashenko is a political prostitute, as I have always argued.

          You want to say that the Russian authorities are happy with you?
          the whole thought, the government and the president are not worth one Lukashenko !!! Old Man is a statesman, and Ours are traders, balabol and thieves ... try to argue with the obvious!
      7. +3
        25 August 2014 20: 47
        Shooters returned from vacation.
        source:
        http://donbass.center/news/882-igor-ivanovich-strelkov-vernulsya-iz-kratkosrochn
        ogo-otpuska.html
    2. +11
      25 August 2014 14: 59
      Here Lukashenko pursues a rotten policy, which will be counted towards him in the future, so it seems to me for some reason.
      1. 0
        25 August 2014 15: 03
        Exactly. If everything is fine with us, so Luke yells "the brothers for eternity conquered instead !!!", and when something goes wrong with us, he has a "multi-vector" ... One such "wise man" was already in power. True, in another country. And his last name began with "I". Apparently, his laurels do not give Luka any rest ...
      2. +16
        25 August 2014 15: 12
        Yeah, the Old Man fell great in the eyes of the Russians during the Ukrainian conflict ... It rushes about like a mouse in childbirth - as if to not miss out on your benefits. But money is money, and authority and trust cannot be returned. I thought of him better. There is such folk wisdom - "When you were betrayed, it's like you broke your arms. You can forgive, but you can't hug anymore." Everything will fall into place over time - but there will be no previous trust and good relations with Belarusians.
        1. +29
          25 August 2014 16: 05
          Dear, our Old Man is still not all Belarusians. We also do not like that he handled and hugged Potroshenko, but ... how else to be. Your leaders have only now begun to pursue a more or less intelligible policy in Donbass. A convoy was sent, the second And where is the large-scale echelons, humanitarian aid for residents, I'm not talking about military aid or the recognition of Novorossiya. Why not? Russia is a great country, how long will it look back on its "partners"? But oglyadovatsya..What do you want from Belarus? So that Old Man condemned the junta and Washington, and then what? We have been living for 20 years already under the sanctions of YOUR "partners". And then, if Lukashenko condemns Potroshenko, where will they all meet - Potroshenko, the EU, the Customs Union, if not in Minsk.? So do not blame Old Man for not yelling at the top of his voice, stop the thief. I have not heard that Putin-Medvedev is too loudly about the crimes of the junta yelling. Or is it wrong? But in general, politics is a dirty business. No one will remain clean. Let's wait on August 26.08. Maybe peace in Donbas is more expensive? By the way, I do not exclude that Putin will shake hands with the non-handshake Potroshenko, politics is a pancake ...
        2. DMB-88
          +4
          26 August 2014 00: 01
          Akulina, you are too susceptible to Russian propaganda!
          the Russian authorities betrayed Lukashenko a hundred times and turned their hands on the gas price by blackmail so that he would give an opportunity to privatize Belarusian enterprises and introduce bans on the import of milk, etc. It’s hard to find treachery of the Russian elite, let's be objective!
          1. DMB-88
            +5
            26 August 2014 02: 28
            Children Belarusians do not listen to you, you live normally, I say, as an eyewitness, I also visit Minsk and Vitebsk, rested on Braslav lakes-beauties !!!
            you have little black-and-white, cleanliness, order, people are all kind, girls are beautiful, there are no swindlers in the government !!!

            But here on the site there is "heruvim" dressing up as a Belarusian, praising Putin, Lukashenko and your whole life scolds and greedy for the plus signs look, "bang" the guy, otherwise I have already run out of disadvantages !!! negative
            1. DMB-88
              +3
              26 August 2014 02: 33
              Lukashenko is a noryal man, only one thing bothers me, much of his son is everywhere flaunting, well, uncomfortable like that!
              1. Victor R
                0
                27 August 2014 16: 42
                So he doesn’t lead the show in Europe, but at home. And the house is the house! This is shameful with us. The hats are on. And the dad is easier.
            2. +3
              26 August 2014 13: 25
              heh! and the cherub to you already 2 - rolled! in cattle!
      3. +9
        25 August 2014 15: 23
        Everyone is seizing the moment ... and Lukashenko cannot be blamed for this, but he also wants to re-enter the European elite to be ordained, so to speak, through this policy, but on the other hand, we do not know everything and it is quite possible that this is then a cunning game, perhaps even coordinated with Russia and Putin, let's say he needs a leader to whom the boar will listen ...
        1. -3
          25 August 2014 15: 30
          Uh-huh. Yanukovych and Putin also had a "tricky game". Everyone knows the result.
        2. -3
          25 August 2014 15: 35
          What tricky game is there?
          Wearing a bastard costume?
          And how then to explain to people that he played a pre-distributed role?
          Then the question.
          And now you are not playing.
          Dignity is such a category that once you play the wrong note, you won’t wash off anymore.
          Old Man is not playing.
          This is his gypsy essence.
          1. +9
            25 August 2014 17: 46
            Is there an alternative to Lukashenka? Would you like to put a Western "Yegorushka Gaidar" or a Guss Alegarh at the head of Belarus? If there are no specific options, there is nothing to overstrain. Alexander Nevsky was also named the son of Batu, and drank kumis as Sartak's brother. So what? Should Belarus become the locomotive of geopolitics? Take and bring everyone right now, so honestly on the bright path? Let Lukashenka play as he wants. This is HIS party, and he is responsible for his own country. HERE, if he really gets sick (and this is nonsense, because for this he needs at least "euro-integrate"), then he can tear his throat. In the meantime, there is no reason, no.
      4. -6
        25 August 2014 15: 32
        Cunning and calculation. Nothing more. It would be necessary to put the Old Man in such a position when either / or. You are for us in everything or against us. But he’s cunning, it’s difficult to bring him to this
        1. +7
          25 August 2014 17: 34
          Quote: FC SKIF
          Cunning and calculation. Nothing more ... he's cunning,
          This pioneer Vasechkin needs to be straightforward, like a three-line. A politician is something else. This is what you wrote about.
          And he is cunning for the benefit of the Belarusian people. So what's the deal then?
      5. +29
        25 August 2014 15: 53
        When it seems they are usually baptized. As a citizen of the Republic of Belarus, I can say with confidence that 80% of the republic's population wholeheartedly supports Russia. Lukashenka is only trying to bargain for something for himself, for example: a new loan, contracts with the Russian Federation, the status of a fighter for peace in the eyes of Europe (it’s painfully he’s branded as a teran there, and you just look and love). Thanks to this policy, we buy gas at $ 167 per 1 cubic meters. we have a bunch of contracts with the Russian Federation and so on. All statements in the spirit of "LUKASHENKO BETRAYED PUTIN AND RUSSIA" are the results of the ravings of fevered brains, because many forget about the Union State, the unified air defense system, Russian airfields on the territory of the Republic of Belarus and the "West" type exercises that colorfully describe to us the essence of possible conflicts and the role of Belarus in them ...
        1. calocha
          +12
          25 August 2014 16: 23
          You can’t blame Lukashenko! Lukashenko unequivocally consulted with Putin (as an ally) before coming to the inauguration. I wish that in Russia people are treated as much as in Belarus. There are excesses, but not without it ...
        2. -8
          25 August 2014 17: 13
          question - does Alexander Grigorievich need "the love of Western partners"? if yes - then excuse me - either narrow-minded or naive person ...
          1. 0
            25 August 2014 17: 54
            dear gentlemen, comrades, would you even argue whether your minuses laughing
            1. +5
              25 August 2014 18: 44
              Arguing? Yes, please - in your comment, Lukashenko is presented as some kind of naive pioneer. A pioneer could not have been in power for more than 15 years, the Old Man will give odds to many more. As an example of a pioneer - Yanukovych, well, he couldn’t do that. So there’s no reason to argue, he’s very naive.
              1. -2
                25 August 2014 18: 57
                in my comment ??? ))) as you can see - comrade Lieutenant Willie writes the following -
                Quote: ViLLi
                Lukashenko is only trying to bargain for himself something, for example: a new loan, contracts with the Russian Federation, the status of a fighter for peace in the eyes of Europe (it’s too painful to brand him there, and you’ll look and love him) ..
          2. calocha
            +6
            25 August 2014 20: 30
            Lukashenko is a serious politician who, unlike many, has his own opinion and vision! An excellent business executive, he was sanctioned like the flags of a wolf, and the Republic lives and thrives ... That's why he put a couple of minuses in you!
            1. -5
              25 August 2014 20: 48
              Well, thank you, dear Comrade Colonel General for an objective assessment laughing
              I only hope that Comrade Alexander Grigoryevich indeed
              Quote: calocha
              Excellent business executive
              laughing
              what about
              Quote: calocha
              a serious politician who, unlike many, has his own opinion and vision!
              it is YOU that overstepped something, the policy "both yours and ours" is far from original, just many are doing this ...
              1. calocha
                +5
                25 August 2014 21: 22
                Major - you either have "eyes tied to the knot" or serious plugs in your ears, rather both laughing Since the uterus cuts the truth, the Old Man could (ut) cut only: Castro, Putin, Ahmadinejad, Assad, Gaddafi Hugo Chavez (Down the Earth and the Kingdom of Heaven)
                1. -6
                  25 August 2014 21: 36
                  Well, so far to me, comrade general))) you even feel with your ears what is written)))
                  but about the truth - so comrade. Indeed, Lukashenko often cuts her womb so much that without comment ...
          3. Victor R
            0
            27 August 2014 16: 58
            Tsar Peter also cut beards. He respected the Dutch and Germans. It’s hard to live only with your own brains. Development in cooperation.
        3. 0
          26 August 2014 00: 04
          quote:

          and the doctrine of the "West" type, which colorfully describe to us the essence of possible conflicts and the role of Belarus in them.

          the role of a "brotherly" target for NATO missiles, by the way, if, God forbid, the second cold grows into the third world hot
        4. Victor R
          0
          27 August 2014 16: 49
          Willie, you are not a citizen of Belarus. And if a citizen, then by mistake.
      6. DMB-88
        0
        25 August 2014 23: 44
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Here Lukashenko pursues a rotten policy, which will be counted towards him in the future, so it seems to me for some reason.

        and what policy does the gdp pursue ?!
        1. +4
          26 August 2014 00: 12
          careful and balanced policy. Maybe on a radical left-communist view, too cautious and too balanced. But (quote) "who in his youth was not a radical - he has no heart; who in maturity did not become a conservative - he has no mind"
    3. 0
      25 August 2014 15: 00
      Quote: polite people
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

      Old Man, in recent years he has often become a crib, maybe insanity ?! or maybe ask your population if they want to be in Russia with Russia ?! Anyway, a lot of your citizens come to Russia to earn money, to study ..., including in the neighboring Smolensk region, where I live. So maybe your citizens should not go to Russia, but to make Russia in Belarus ?!
      1. +21
        25 August 2014 16: 31
        Old Man, like Belarus, is on the side of Russia. As for joining Russia, many would be in favor, but ... if only through a referendum. Because while Old Man is in power, why should he become one of the governors from the President of a sovereign country? By the way, this position of Lukashenka was largely formed due to the sad experience of communicating with the EBN and would-be reformers like Yegor Gaidar or Chubais. But the same Chubais is still in power. And the privatization in Russia was certainly not good Lukashenka thinks it’s insanity or not. I think not. And so, of course, pensions in Russia are several times higher than ours, well, we are already used to a modest life in terms of consumption ...
        1. +6
          25 August 2014 17: 48
          True said. In Russia, many have the same opinions.
    4. +1
      25 August 2014 15: 01
      onion upset ... recourse
      1. +21
        25 August 2014 15: 28
        Only 10 million (!) People live in Belarus. Less than residents in Moscow.

        All orders are gold for them. On equipment (which was sent to the junta, etc.) for fertilizers, etc. - because there will be no orders - there will be a deficit in the poor Republic of Belarus.

        Lukashenko has no choice - either he trades - or he caves in under the IMF asking him for money.

        Therefore, even if the devil himself offers Lukashenko a contract - having thought about his country, having estimated everything + and -, the contract will be signed.

        Nothing personal - the question is the survival of Belarus. She doesn’t have many options.
        1. +1
          25 August 2014 17: 55
          Certainly - The best explanation for Lukashenko’s policy.
        2. Evgeniy1
          0
          25 August 2014 20: 42
          Everything is so except for petroleum products for the junta, THIS BLOODY MONEY !!!
    5. -1
      25 August 2014 15: 16
      It’s not a matter of definition, but a banal fear ... The fear that power can be taken away. Judging by the fact that Lukashenka has been introducing his son to political activity for a long time, it can be assumed that "Father" wants to found his dynasty, and he does not need any extra unrest in the country. Otherwise, it is not even an hour when the people of Belarus also want to reunite with Russia.
      1. +4
        25 August 2014 16: 50
        Apparently you are surrounded by him, since you know what for what, right?
      2. +1
        25 August 2014 19: 57
        Do you think his son is happy? It is more important for a child at his age to run around, to have fun with peers. And you try to do this with protection behind you.
    6. 0
      25 August 2014 15: 17
      This "Cat" walks by itself ... After the Crimea, it was chipped in one place ... what if the Belarusians want to like the Crimeans ??????????
      1. +20
        25 August 2014 16: 02
        Yes, it’s not bad for us: cheap gas and communal services, clean street, lack of oligarchs and banditry on an enormous scale, we don’t have a national question and articles inciting ethnic hatred, in the end 90% of the inhabitants of the capital are Belarusians and not Chechens with Dagestanis and other immigrants from the north Caucasus.
        1. -3
          25 August 2014 18: 24
          it turns out in Belarus there are huge deposits of natural gas laughing there is only a little democracy - and it’s strange how Washington’s regional committee didn’t get your hands on it .. wink
          and the Chechens and Dagestanis are the same citizens of Russia and what our weakness is in, so is our strength ...
          1. +8
            25 August 2014 19: 19
            We can’t reach your regional committee because the American ambassador was sent home. That's just a couple of weeks as it appeared. So about contacts with the states, this is not for us.
            1. -2
              25 August 2014 19: 40
              Ask yourself a question - why does NATO not even think to bring a "breath of democracy" to the country of "the last European dictator"?
              1. +6
                25 August 2014 20: 54
                NATO sleeps and sees NATO tanks near Smolensk. In Soviet times, in the western regions, the military was no less than civilian. What kind of troops there just did not stand. And since our President is a good host, where we need weeds does not grow.
                1. +2
                  25 August 2014 21: 26
                  Gaddafi, I think, was also a good manager, and the state kept ... only without help where is he now ...
                  If Russia does not exist, it will be possible to forget about the Slavic world forever, this is not "great-power chauvinism" or "Russian nationalism" - this is an objective reality that at the present moment the Slavs are supported by Russia .. I do not want to persuade you, but I am sure for now there is Russia - there will be Belarus ...
              2. Evgeniy1
                +8
                25 August 2014 21: 06
                The answer is simple - Luke is a strong politician and Belarus is not Honduras.
                1. -4
                  25 August 2014 21: 31
                  comrade Milosevic was also not weak, do you think?
                  but about the fact that
                  Quote: Eugene1
                  RB is not Honduras.
                  I will tell you more - not even Nicaragua laughing but Nicaragua in foreign policy showed itself closer to Russia than his native Belarus ....
                  1. Victor R
                    -1
                    27 August 2014 11: 50
                    Purchasing weapons for our loans ... Another Cuba.
    7. -5
      25 August 2014 15: 22
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.


      It has long been decided - on his own. He wants, like Kalo Moishe, to be the emperor of an independent farm and the king of the garden. And because except Russia, he quarreled with everyone, then flirts with the Kiev organized crime group.
      1. +6
        25 August 2014 19: 20
        Belarus trades with 170 countries of the world.
    8. +22
      25 August 2014 15: 29
      The question is not about the choice of the party. I think Lukashenko sees and knows everything. It's just that a lot is involved.
      Economy:The commodity circulation between Ukraine and Belarus in 2013 year exceeded 6 billion dollars. The surplus in favor of Belarus is about 2 billion US dollars. If Lukashenko supports the position of Russia, then Ukraine will block our border. We are about 15 years under the sanctions of the West. where do we put the goods ??? Russia is ready to guarantee a quota for 4-6 billion US dollars ??? Therefore, he maintains the status quo with Ukraine. Even if he does not support the fascist sentiments prevailing in Kiev.
      Government structure: Naturally, the president will not support the rebels. The state must be united and the president understands this. Therefore, no sympathy for the rebels (even if they stand for a just cause) will not be on behalf of the Government of the Republic of Belarus.
      The bottom line: We are under severe pressure from sanctions. The trade balance in Belarus for the 5 months of the 2014 year is negative: minus 540,7 mln. we need export like air. Therefore, he will not support the rebels because of the fear of losing the Ukrainian market and will quarrel with Kiev. For the same reason, he will not condemn Bandera. The rebels will not support because of the integrity of any state and hostility of any separatism. If you quarrel with Ukraine, then we will completely fall under Russia. Russians are wonderful people, but they do not decide in politics. For people who actually solve issues, we are partners, not brothers. Therefore, having lost the Ukrainian market, we become very dependent on Russia and can continue to twist our hands, as anyone else. The consequence of this may be the loss of part of the sovereignty of the Republic. Lukashenko understands this very well. And in the future, my dear friends, when you condemn someone, try on yourself, but what would you do in such a situation and what would be the consequences for you and people depending on you.
      1. 0
        25 August 2014 15: 55
        Quote: Andrew-88
        If Lukashenko supports the position of Russia, then Ukraine will block our border.

        Can you give a damn about the position of your ally of Russia? Russia will not block the border, it will tolerate Batkin’s support for the Ukrainian fascists. Maybe then he will give another loan, so that the Old Man doesn’t.
        Naturally, the president will not support the rebels. The state must be united and the president understands this.

        In your opinion, we will support fascism, we will support the murderers of old people and children, because "the state must be united and the president understands this."
        Therefore, he will not support the rebels because of the fear of losing the Ukrainian market and will quarrel with Kiev. For the same reason, he will not condemn Bandera

        And at least a little conscience is, or loot above all?
        we become very dependent on Russia

        Buy oil, gas, metal at world prices and become independent, marvel at cynicism, if we stop trading with the fascists, then we will be dependent.
        1. +7
          25 August 2014 16: 08
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          And at least a little conscience is, or loot above all?

          He may have a conscience, but money decides everything, otherwise "Maidans" all over the country, and you see, it is not even an hour and he will be like Yanukovych. A very big risk.
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          In your opinion, we will support fascism, we will support the murderers of old people and children, because "the state must be united and the president understands this."

          This is not my opinion. I'm just an observer of the course of events.
          And the president knows what he is risking. So he will bustle and wriggle to become the "king of the mountain." In politics, straightforward and principled people do not live long. Sometimes you have to compromise your principles.
          1. -5
            25 August 2014 16: 22
            In politics, straightforward and principled do not live long. Sometimes you have to sacrifice your principles.


            This is not an excuse. A politician should be principled and lead the people for good, while using common principles unprincipled for all politicians. And so this is another oligarch. Stalin did terrible things for the sake of future generations, and this for the sake of his pocket.
            1. +7
              25 August 2014 16: 56
              Quote: flSergius
              This is not an excuse. A politician should be principled and lead the people to good, while using common principles unprincipled for all politicians.

              I agree. But this is true when you have a large margin of economic strength or population support. And our economy is simply - "seams". And the population, especially the workers, will not support it at the next devaluation. Therefore, he will continue to play up, since the government is weak, and in the event of a severe crisis, it may not survive.
              1. 0
                25 August 2014 17: 12
                I agree. But this is true when you have a large margin of economic strength or population support. And our economy is simply - "seams". And the population, especially the workers, will not support it at the next devaluation. Therefore, he will continue to play up, since the government is weak, and in the event of a severe crisis, it may not survive.


                And who is to blame that our economy keeps on snot? I honestly do my work, I think you are mine too. The one who should direct all the work of all citizens in the right direction is to blame. And july is already a consequence of this situation ... but I will say bluntly - from the ass. In which he climbed and dragged us.
            2. +4
              26 August 2014 02: 50
              Want to compare the pockets of Lukashenko and Putin?
              Of the CIS presidents, if we take personal property (cars and houses), then Lukashenko is one of the poorest.
            3. Victor R
              +2
              27 August 2014 17: 48
              And he poured a lot into his pocket? !!! Look at our ghouls of the Yeltsin pore. Many are still at the helm or with bags far away. A lot of bulbs are being wrested with stolen in London and Paris ???!
        2. +10
          25 August 2014 16: 55
          Answer to Anatoly Klim. The Old Man does not support Ukrainian fascists. Belarus looks at Russia in this matter. If at the beginning of the events in Ruin, your leaders said that it was a fascist-not legal-armed coup that Russia will never recognize, etc. Now, according to the Russian media, the authorities in Kiev are conditionally legal, with which negotiations can and should be conducted. This is Minister Lavrov at a briefing today. So, you’re a determinant, if the Nazis are in power in the Ruin, then what negotiations are there with them? And about oil, gas, metal, etc. at world prices. Read about the flying time of a modern ballistic or cruise missile to Moscow, from Brest or from Smolensk ... And you won’t have time to say one or two, and you are talking about world prices. One we all have the Russian World, and you and ours.
          1. -2
            25 August 2014 17: 20
            Quote: baltiksi
            Old Man does not support Ukrainian fascists.

            I saw this at a meeting with Turchinov and at the inauguration of Poroshenko.
            And about oil, gas, metal, etc. at world prices. Read about the flying time of a modern ballistic or cruise missile to Moscow, from Brest or from Smolensk ... And you won’t have time to say one or two, and you are talking about world prices. We all have the Russian World, and you and ours.

            A typical response from a Belarusian ally, if you stop supplying us with cheap energy resources and giving loans, we will immediately join NATO and their missiles will be stationed near Smolensk and “Read about the flight time of a modern ballistic or cruise missile to Moscow ... just say no will have time, "just cynical blackmail and after that you say about the Russian World, what is it for you, then answer !!! Can't read such comments, ruined the whole day.
            1. +13
              25 August 2014 17: 41
              If the Old Man weren’t in our time, then the Belarusian Popular Front and the nationalist Poznyak, who is now in the USA, would have won. And the missiles would be at Smolensk, and not in Poland or the Czech Republic. And you started about world prices. stay with a bad mood. It looks like for you-Russian WORLD is talking about energy prices, etc. The society is damn ... And for us, Russian WORLD is primarily the Russian language, Russian culture, the ability to speak your own language , a lot of things ... By the way, we can speak Russian in Belarus thanks to the Old Man, and we remember that. We don’t have to know what to do with it.
              1. -1
                25 August 2014 20: 42
                Quote: baltiksi
                If not Old Man

                You can not tell me about the BPF and Zenon, at that time I was still serving in Belarus and drove these corrupt activists away from the checkpoint when they climbed into the unit before the elections to agitate the soldiers. Since that time, there has been a widespread opinion among the leadership of Belarus that Russia is simply obliged to Belarus for the fact that it almost protects Moscow from invasion, however, recently, after the "plush landing" and the deployment of Russian fighters (theirs have developed a resource, and new are not being bought), these conversations seem to have died down, but Shushkevich stuttered about NATO missiles, surprised that you have become like these figures.
                I don’t need to talk about Belarus, I do not know her from the car window, driving from east to west and looking at the plowed fields, and not walking along the clean streets, coming for several days to visit relatives. There are big problems in the economy, the Old Man put the country on cheap Russian hydrocarbons and loans, without which the country's economy will simply collapse. He commented a lot on this problem, I do not want to repeat it, and everyone knows about it. Old Man has changed a lot, as he was in the 90s (happened to meet) and what he became, these are different people.
                After the birth of Kolenka completely suffered, joy of course, in old age, a son was born, but not to such an extent. And the Russian World for me is not only the Russian language and Russian culture, for me it is, first of all, selfless, selfless support of Russia to Belarus and Belarus to Russia, but for the Old Man it is primarily a benefit and an opportunity to bargain, but otherwise, Belarusians will be overthrown from the throne.
                By the way, Belarus brothers, why grow these green melons in Belarus, the bulb is growing well, it can sell the bulb, and buy an Uzbek torpedo. (What’s on its head? What is it called?)
                1. +8
                  25 August 2014 21: 00
                  We have been growing melons and watermelons in our dachas for 6 years. Our scientists have created the necessary seeds and in connection with climate change, growing melons even in the Minsk region makes sense. When transporting gourds absorb everything harmful. Islands in okr. airborne is not news. My watermelons are smaller than Astrakhan, but sweet.
                  1. +3
                    25 August 2014 21: 20
                    Quote: 1500014781401
                    We grow melons and watermelons

                    This year I was in Vitebsk, I didn’t see Belarusian melons in stores, next year I’ll go, maybe I can find and try in the market, maybe this green melon is sweet.
                    1. +6
                      25 August 2014 21: 47
                      You are welcome, always welcome guests. The president instructed in each province to establish the production of melons (except for the northern regions).
                2. +1
                  27 August 2014 14: 38
                  We don’t like the fact that the Old Man is dragging Kolenka everywhere behind him. Well, who is not without sin. Here you are all with claims to us. And if not for the Old Man, where would this meeting take place. And today, following the results of the Minsk meeting between the CU, the EU and Potroshenko, after all, Putin shook hands with the non-shaking Potroshenko, as I predicted in comments a day earlier. You all accuse the Old Man of some kind of friendship with the Nazis, but the main thing is to stop the war, peaceful people are dying there, Russians. Well, how else to stop if not through negotiations. We have no friendship with either our Natsik or Banderlog on Ruin. I not a president. and Putin’s place would have increased the help of the DPR’s army. Well, Lukashenka’s resources and capabilities aren’t even Putin. Well, we’ve been growing melons and watermelons for several years. - the other would be the alignment.
                3. Victor R
                  0
                  27 August 2014 18: 01
                  Or maybe not just one dad has changed, but the world around Belarus has changed?
      2. +3
        25 August 2014 17: 59
        Quote: Andrew-88
        It's just that a lot is involved.

        another sober, numeric commentary
        I want to add from myself, the recent trade war between Belarus and Ukraine, and so caused great harm to both. Therefore, they decided duty-free and mutually beneficial.
        Belarusians compete well and have a business here (from doors to food)
      3. +9
        25 August 2014 19: 23
        We are like three sisters in one apartment. Russia is the eldest, Belarus is the youngest, clever and hardworking, well, Ukraine is beautiful, but fucked up, every three years there is a divorce, a maidan, a new man ...
        Well, they put up with it - dear, but then the Negro brought it into the house, they say love was with them, he promised a beautiful life in Europe - glamor, but for now we need to register it with us and make a room for him, well, of course, we understand that this is a con man living space is breeding, we are trying to interfere, so she - a dumb dumb family, refused to consider us enemies, she thinks we are envious of her happiness with a black man.
        So we think, whether a whore, or an idiot ...

        From the site http://www.inpearls.ru/
      4. +4
        25 August 2014 21: 17
        cleverly! I put + per comment. we must remember that we traded with the Nazis and the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact not to forget ... something like that. stop
      5. Evgeniy1
        -5
        25 August 2014 21: 22
        Dear, you don’t understand that your diesel is fueled by dill tanks, your kerosene in the tanks of dill aircraft is a BLOODY BUSINESS and shortsighted!
    9. -10
      25 August 2014 15: 46
      Lukashenko is a striking type of paranoid double-dealing. He has always been like that. Why are you surprised? Somehow everyone is already used to it. That's how we are friends.
      1. 11111mail.ru
        +11
        25 August 2014 17: 02
        Quote: siberalt
        Lukashenko is a striking type of paranoid double-dealing. He has always been like that. Why are you surprised?

        Hunchback with Elson do not remember? There was some kind of Yakovlev, Kovyrnyadze ... Why are you kicking Alexander Grigoryevich? Start with Kudrin, Chubais, Medvedev, they seem to be closer ... Lukashenko has frozen your eyes! Ugh ...
        1. -6
          25 August 2014 18: 07
          Now we are not talking about them. See the title of the article.
        2. +8
          25 August 2014 21: 31
          Start with Kudrin, Chubais, Medvedev,
          announce the whole list, please! ik ... don’t remember where? so you can recall! and that we, as in a kindergarten, are scribbling, but here is your father! but your chubais (I would kill stsuk only for vouchers, not to mention the collapse of the power system!) pah! all are good! and Lukashenko is doing the right thing, don’t crap under our liberals! or can recall the financing of the junta by our Sberbank under the direction of Gref ?! you need to remove your chips, otherwise we don’t see a log in your eye! am
    10. -4
      25 August 2014 15: 58
      He really loves power. The situation with Ukraine showed how easily he could lose it. And he was just scared. His people have long disliked, but thanks to elections without a choice (immediately voluntary-compulsory early voting, the same prohibition of monitoring the vote count), he allows him to gain, or rather to establish himself, how many percent will vote for him. He understood that if Russian troops enter Belarus with the aim of overthrowing him, no one will save him, and even most likely will arrange a holiday on this occasion.
    11. +10
      25 August 2014 16: 07
      Don't read the slag - don't mess up your head, this article is from the Censor-level website. Analytics at the level "PUTIN GIVEN RUSSIA TO KADYROV", in one word, the crowing has nothing to do with the real state of affairs.
    12. +1
      25 August 2014 16: 10
      Yes, he decided a long time ago. Look on YouTube for his interview after the inauguration of Poroshenko. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr8YdZqGPpI
    13. bda
      bda
      +7
      25 August 2014 16: 10
      polite people
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

      Cautious Batko.
      He sees how we are playing the game - "both ours and yours" and understands: if he rushes into a conflict headlong, then he will be substituted, and, possibly, both sides at once.
      1. +8
        25 August 2014 16: 14
        I wouldn’t blame the dad so indiscriminately. He is with his head. I am more than sure that there is a clear, thin, planned policy, where everything is painted as if by notes. Time will tell.
    14. 0
      25 August 2014 16: 12
      Yes, he decided a long time ago. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr8YdZqGPpI
      1. +1
        26 August 2014 00: 38
        different interviews - for different audiences. A politician is not a schoolteacher to say 100 times in a row how Obama "Russia is to blame for everything and she will pay a huge price for her policy"
    15. Cadet787
      -4
      25 August 2014 16: 13
      Recently, our "soyuzniki" behave somehow strange in relation to Russia, with such allies and enemies it is not necessary ...
    16. +1
      25 August 2014 16: 55
      Quote: polite people
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

      No one, he will be the mediator.
    17. DMB-88
      +8
      25 August 2014 16: 59
      Quote: polite people
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

      I really apologize for the repost, I pressed the wrong button from the nerves, but what God does not do is for the best!
      Dear Belarusians Brothers!
      Remember that the opinion of many corrupt Russian media and their henchmen does not always coincide with the opinion of the Russian People, but more often these opinions are completely opposite!
      We are with you and for you !!! Peace to you and prosperity !!!
    18. Past_ Crocodile
      -7
      25 August 2014 17: 01
      Not quite right - he does not know who will pay the most.
      1. +10
        25 August 2014 17: 38
        At a briefing, the old man said bluntly that do not dare even think that I would do something without consulting Russia, and I would only do what would be in Russia's favor, as Belarus and Russia are one. Google and find.
    19. +1
      25 August 2014 18: 31
      How can this "not"? Belarus is a member of the CSTO. Kissing on your own with the leaders of the fascist regime of Ukraine is outright betrayal.
    20. +12
      25 August 2014 18: 32
      The amount of dirt poured on Lukashenko rolls over.
      Before he came to power, we had nat. government. My father, a Tambov man, alarmed, started phoning relatives in Russia for the purpose of leaving. Belarusian mother, numerous relatives are Belarusians, my brother and I were born here, raised, educated, advanced at work, we have a choir. housing, friends, and now go by no means where to go to the neck of relatives. Okay brother, Officer Ros. army. Do you think I wanted to?
      I well understand the refugees from Ukraine, we had such feelings. Only thanks to Lukashenko we live at home in beloved Belarus. Dad for Lukashenko will tear anyone up.
    21. -3
      25 August 2014 19: 48
      Quote: polite people
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

      It is not necessary to consider him a fool, just an attempt was repeatedly seen by the father to sit on two chairs at the same time.
      He has such a sinner
    22. -2
      25 August 2014 19: 55
      Lukashenko behaves like an old Jew. Nowhere will not miss its benefits. And do not care about the moral side. If the Ukrainian army needs fuel, it soon agreed with Russia on oil discounts, and immediately began selling gas to Ruin.
      It’s not for us to judge him, he will also feed the people, but I think if they’re helping you, please be kind enough to say thanks, that he pushes to the left, it doesn’t matter, it’s important that he gives an interview to which country, then that country and praises, and when you look at his politics as a whole, you can see that he has no friends and beliefs, there is only momentary benefit.
      Once again I say, personally, I do not feel negative for him, rather, even sympathy, for these throwing from side to side .... offensive of course .....
    23. -6
      25 August 2014 20: 52
      If he is silent or pretends to be, although he understands everything, if he is silent, then he recognizes the Ukrainian authorities of the Nazi regime in its full glory and change and think about some kind of position and which he should accept, I consider it sacrilegious to the memory of those who died during the war from those who he now defends, so to speak, and does not criticize the Kiev authorities. And it’s not in revenge on the Belarusian people that it’s not all about the betrayal of the father’s very heritage.
    24. -6
      25 August 2014 22: 09
      How Yanukovych!
    25. -1
      25 August 2014 22: 21
      Yanukovych also could not decide for a long time!
    26. -4
      25 August 2014 23: 02
      For 23 years, Russia has not acquired a single reliable ally. All of her allies, friends, as long as they get free loans and weapons at a bargain price for free, or even just for free (like Belarus). the United States holds the leash as a friend even though the banking system is strong.
    27. -4
      25 August 2014 23: 24
      Lukashenko leads his game, and even the mushrooms are eating glucinogenic, that's the result!
      In general, the old one became completely sick on the head, it's time to leave, however!
    28. +2
      26 August 2014 02: 14
      Quote: polite people
      He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.
      Well, why can't it? Maybe even how. I believe that Putin communicates with Poroshenko through Lukashenko. "Tell him that if he does this, then it will be like this ..." And Lukashenko is not so short-sighted to change the Customs Union to the EU, which always bans him.
  2. -4
    25 August 2014 14: 51
    It is necessary to dismiss Lukashenko as not having justified his trust :-)
    1. +1
      25 August 2014 14: 56
      Quote: saag
      It is necessary to dismiss Lukashenko as not having justified his trust :-)

      apparently in old age, wisdom does not come to everyone ... what
      1. +7
        25 August 2014 15: 06
        "life goes on, years pass ... a person grows old, wisdom comes with old age ...
        but sometimes old age comes alone. "FG Ranevskaya (something like this ...)
    2. +2
      25 August 2014 14: 56
      Quote: saag
      It is necessary to dismiss Lukashenko as not having justified his confidence:


      Luke is just a buffer. No brainer.
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    4. avt
      +4
      25 August 2014 15: 08
      Quote: saag
      It is necessary to dismiss Lukashenko as not having justified his trust :-)

      comrade ... Ah! What a man! laughing
      Quote: PalSanych
      In any case, he wants to play his card at a higher price!

      He flirts, however, - envy gnaws that he could not get into the Kremlin, and from time to time he kicks up - he doesn't like being led. You can understand, again from the famous tirade of VVP - "mosses apart from cutlets" personal resentment gnaws. "Javtet is a coward, Abdullah is a warrior. They do not love each other." bully Here from time to time, and brings Butzka, while it seems like he has enough time to turn on the back, well, if he gets off the coils and really imagines himself a descendant of the Radziwills ??? It will not be healthy, but rather sad, because he has no one in Belarus to advise the tale of Pushkin’s goldfish to re-read the campaign except for GDP.
      1. -1
        25 August 2014 15: 58
        Quote: avt
        comrade ... Ah! What a man!

        This is how it turns out to be simple. You write an article with all kinds of turbidity, you pour slop on a person, the audience is in shock, everything: an enemy, a traitor.
        Head for eating and drinking.
        Putin is also a traitor, he is conducting separate negotiations with Poroshenko while civilians are pouring blood in Donetsk. The photo shows with his hand what to give money so that the militia would lay down their arms.
        1. avt
          +2
          25 August 2014 16: 31
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Head for eating and drinking.

          Yes, I recommend using it for its intended purpose. For example, to read what is written, and not to invent what he did not say
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          This is how it turns out to be simple. You write an article with all kinds of turbidity, you pour slop on a person, the audience is in shock, everything: an enemy, a traitor.

          Where exactly I, and in other comments, wrote that Butsk was an enemy and a traitor? Filter your thoughts from specific phrases of others, or how it turns out on the yokropensor.
          1. +6
            25 August 2014 17: 21
            Quote: avt
            Where exactly I, and in other comments, wrote that Butsk was an enemy and a traitor?

            I read the comments and was completely upset. It so happened that I stopped at you, my comment does not directly apply to you. I'm sorry.
            1. avt
              +1
              25 August 2014 18: 32
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              It so happened that I stopped at you, my comment does not directly apply to you. I'm sorry.

              It happens . But when you give a link, it is always perceived as a statement to a personal address. At least I take it that way. According to Butsk once again, the ambitions multiplied by emotions with him have long played a cruel joke. Especially when emotions go off the scale of the post, and ambitions are not supported by real opportunities, it has been a long time behind him, but since the environment really looks in your mouth, the brakes can not cope. Why did he go to Piglet for kangarization, and even talked to the camera from three boxes! ?? Well, he’s not a player in the game. He would take an example from the old Nazarbayev party apparatchik - he pitied me at the very beginning with peacekeeping, saw that there was nothing to catch and quietly left .
              Quote: andrew42
              With a Soviet flag, and a pebble on the scales of "common people"? Not by the clothes of speech.

              A weak link to give to whose address? Or at least write a nickname, than just shout into space?
              1. +5
                25 August 2014 21: 54
                Quote: avt
                . I would take an example from the old Nazarbayev party apparatchik - he stinged at the very beginning with peacekeeping, saw - there was nothing to catch and quietly left.
                Quote: andrew42

                Nazarbayev is easier. In our country, 1/3 of the republics receive electricity from Ukraine, so electricity was made in the USSR, and the nuclear power plant will not be soon, everything is not easy, we live nearby, we border, it’s very difficult for us to break economic ties, and even Russia is not easy to break production ties, which talk about us already, people, factories, cities are behind this.
                Both in Russia and in us, half the country has relatives in Ukraine, the war will end and it will be necessary to live on, Ukraine will not go anywhere.
                1. avt
                  -3
                  25 August 2014 22: 53
                  Quote: saturn.mmm
                  Nazarbayev is easier.

                  Come on, that’s easier.
                  Quote: saturn.mmm
                  In our country, 1/3 of the republics receive electricity from Ukraine, so electricity was made in the USSR, and the nuclear power plant will not be soon, everything is not easy, we live nearby, we border, it’s very difficult for us to break economic ties, and even Russia is not easy to break production ties, which talk about us already, people, factories, cities are behind this.
                  Well, in the Crimea, almost all one hundred% of electricity from Ukraine is nothing. However, no one pulls on Batsku’s language, he himself sometimes promises, and then merges quietly. Just remember how he promised to recognize Ossetia and Abkhazia. Very then DAM took offense at him, already in the TV box something nervously scolded him. bully
                  Quote: 1500014781401
                  He never wanted in your Kremlin

                  Well, I really didn’t want to! If I didn’t want to, I would not become Butskoy in Belarus. Of course I wanted to - I snuck around EboNa, but the guys turned out to be quicker, again, the union state was muddied up by completely incomprehensible, but when I realized that the bummer - I handed it back and even stopped what he himself declared - a single currency.
      2. +4
        25 August 2014 18: 48
        He never wanted to go to your Kremlin. Yes, we will not let him go.
    5. +1
      25 August 2014 17: 52
      With a Soviet flag, and a pebble on the scales of "common people"? Not by the clothes of speech.
  3. +1
    25 August 2014 14: 52
    Oh, Old Man is trying to sit on all the chairs at once (not well), and he doesn’t look at the chairs all of a sudden. Their legs are filed ...
  4. +5
    25 August 2014 14: 52
    The question is, who will stop the bucket!?, And the winner’s laurels, although, I think, Russia has its own plan, we will wait ...
    1. +4
      25 August 2014 14: 54
      As a result (although I believe in Vladimir Vladimirovich), all the same, all the glory "grabs" someone else. crying
    2. +2
      25 August 2014 14: 59
      Quote: mig31
      The question is who will stop the bucket!


      There is one biker.


      Kadyrov became a member of the Night Wolves motorcycle club.
      1. 0
        25 August 2014 15: 03
        Let the FEARS fear everything. am I respect Kadyrov, a great man. good
        1. 11111mail.ru
          +2
          25 August 2014 17: 05
          Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
          I respect Kadyrov, a great man.

          Have you tortured Russian prisoners in Chechnya?
          1. +5
            25 August 2014 18: 51
            You can’t forget, but hostility forever is stupid.
            1. dmb
              +1
              25 August 2014 20: 05
              Do not confuse revenge and retribution.
            2. Evgeniy1
              +3
              25 August 2014 21: 34
              Whoever remembers the old is over, and whoever forgets the old is both!
          2. +2
            26 August 2014 03: 02
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            Have you tortured Russian prisoners in Chechnya?

            No, but I just respect Kadyrov as a person. And what about the old to remember.
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  5. 0
    25 August 2014 14: 53
    In any case, he wants to play his card at a higher price!
  6. Beloborodov
    +5
    25 August 2014 14: 57
    Another bullying Old Man ... ordered.
    1. vladsolo56
      +9
      25 August 2014 15: 11
      Refute. This is not bullying, this is analytics. I really respected Lukashenko half a year ago, but when he first began to fraternize with Turchinov, and then with Poroshenko, his status fell very much. It seems to me that now in Russia he has definitely diminished supporters, and quite strongly. Six months ago, as I wrote to many: Lukashenko as president of Russia, now I can only say one thing: for no reason,
      1. -4
        25 August 2014 15: 25
        Quote: vladsolo56
        This is not bullying, this is analytics.
        I would even say - Captain Evidence. smile
      2. nvv
        nvv
        +3
        25 August 2014 15: 28
        Gossip, analytics?
      3. -3
        25 August 2014 15: 51
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Six months ago, as I wrote to many: Lukashenko as president of Russia, now I can only say one thing: for no reason,


        Last fall I wrote that the "dad" is not the one for whom the official media impersonate him, and he grabbed approximately equal parts of the pros and cons. On the other hand, he did not seem to be wandering, but himself predictable as chintz cowards. Unfortunately, all the allies of Russia, where they sit down, will get off there. I am sure that the "dad" has been shined through by foreign intelligence services. Especially, to put it mildly, I was surprised by the "dad "'s credible idea of ​​a" possible Anschluss. "It seems like the union state of Russia and Belarus has not yet been canceled, at least as an idea.
        1. +4
          25 August 2014 18: 55
          Anschluss is growing up. sentence. Before this was Putin's proposal to enter 6 areas. And this despite the fact that Belarus is the founding country of the UN. In addition, after the withdrawal of atomic weapons, an international treaty was signed on guarantees of our security. The agreement was signed by 5 guarantor countries, including Russia.
          1. 0
            25 August 2014 19: 56
            Quote: 1500014781401
            Anschluss is growing up. sentence. Before this was Putin's proposal to enter 6 areas. And this despite the fact that Belarus is the founding country of the UN. In addition, after the withdrawal of atomic weapons, an international treaty was signed on guarantees of our security. The agreement was signed by 5 guarantor countries, including Russia.


            Let's leave aside the absolutely far-fetched "Anschluss question", I put it in quotation marks because I consider "Anschluss" absurd under the declared Union State of Russia and Belarus. I suggest thinking about something closer and more bitter. How is it with heroin addiction in Belarus, how are you doing in the fight against it? If they are, then I will be completely sincerely glad of this. And if there are no special successes, or worse, then try to think about why Alexander Grigorievich granted political asylum to a person who insolently threw Russia for money (about 300 mln. Green) and has a reputation in his native land (of course not proven in court for understandable reasons) one of the most important "controllers" of Central Asian drug trafficking. Personally, I stay away from people associated with drugs, so as not to accidentally go for a steam locomotive.
            I do not pretend to be analytics and do not hint at anything request
      4. Beloborodov
        +5
        25 August 2014 15: 58
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Refute. This is not bullying, this is analytics.

        Pay attention - from your message there are essentially only two sentences. The rest is your opinion. Can I do analytics on it?

        In Belarus quite reasonably they saythat "without the permission of the father, no dog will bark ...".
        Is this what the analyst is based on? And what do they write about this on social networks? ;)
        Justify - how does such analytics differ from the State Department accusations in our direction?
        1. vladsolo56
          0
          25 August 2014 18: 12
          Analytics is not a quotation of individual phrases, it is an analysis of all the statements and actions of a person, only then you can understand who he is and what is on his mind. if you are interested, trace all the actions and words of Lukashenko himself from the beginning of the war in New Russia.
      5. dmb
        +11
        25 August 2014 16: 10
        Especially for you, dear vladsolo
        Quote: herruvim
        In this he is all:

        "If you try to dissolve us in Russia, to carry out, so to speak, an Anschluss, then you will get such a guerrilla war, in comparison with which Chechnya will seem like a childish matinee to you." - about the possible accession of Belarus to Russia

        "We, as in 1941, are in an enemy ring. The enemies have settled in the leadership of a neighboring state with which we recently signed a community treaty."

        Alexander G. Lukashenko


        Adapted from http://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alexander Grigorievich Lukashenko
        not only is the source (wiki) itself doubtful, it’s also blamed on him (Old Man), that he was going to defend his country together with all the people from aggression. That you do not want to fight with Belarus, and Chubais can and wants. Or are you ready to vouch for him and others like him? Well, as for the enemies in the leadership of the neighboring state, I want to remind you who stood at its head and were in the government at the time of signing this Treaty. Correctly EBN and company. Now find on the site at least one commentator who does not consider them enemies. So Old Man is not poisoned for nothing. Its popularity is much higher than that of our Guarantor, and it turns out that those who persecute it merge with the most notorious Belarusian liberal Westerners.
        1. DMB-88
          +1
          25 August 2014 18: 16
          about "he.R.u vima" herruvim, everything has already been said on other branches, this is Mr. TREPLO, who deserves a general "ban" !!!!
        2. vladsolo56
          -1
          25 August 2014 18: 17
          However, all of the above is there any reason for fraternizing with ukrofashistami? Militia declarations of the east by the separatists? I have always supported him in all disputes and conflicts with Russian officials and oligarchs. But I did not think that he would speak out against ordinary people of Donbass, I will never understand that.
          1. nvv
            nvv
            +4
            25 August 2014 18: 29
            Quote: vladsolo56
            However, all of the above is there any reason for fraternizing with ukrofashistami? Militia declarations of the east by the separatists? But I did not think that he would speak out against ordinary people of Donbass, I will never understand that.

            Vladimir. I don’t understand your words that you wrote. Lukashenko tapped on the table with his slipper, calling the militia a separatis? He opposed the common people of Donbas? He fraternizes with ukrofashistami?
            1. vladsolo56
              -1
              26 August 2014 05: 12
              What do you ask questions to which Lukashenko personally answered. I am retired and follow events daily, I saw a video with his speeches all in one, so questions should not be asked to me, but to myself, but it is better to view all his speeches for a certain period. Or do you live by the principle do not believe your eyes?
          2. dmb
            +6
            25 August 2014 20: 22
            I believe this is the answer to my comment. You usually do not say with slogans, why suddenly today? Please name at least one state that did not recognize the election of Poroshenko? Whatever he is? What should Lukashenko do, declare war on Ukraine in alliance with the DPR? From which boudun. She is not even announced by a gentleman who has promised not to leave the Russians. Would the Belarusian people approve the declaration of such a war? Why does our people, calling all those who do not live in the DPR as ukrofascists, do not require our president to declare war on fascism or bring them down to retirement? I personally have not seen a single rally with such demands, and most fellow citizens on the site also call those who require provocateurs. I can give you a few dozen more arguments, but I don’t see the need for this. You do not make the impression of a victim of the exam.
            1. vladsolo56
              -1
              26 August 2014 05: 18
              And why did you decide that I support the decisions and steps of Putin. Personally, I have long been disappointed in him as president. Only the first two or three years did he inspire respect from my hope. now only disgust. Lukashenko always (it seemed to me) told the truth and was always responsible for his words, for which I respected him. But only until the destruction of the people in the Donbass happened. All that he said and did about this, gave rise to doubt his honesty and decency
      6. Beloborodov
        +10
        25 August 2014 16: 34
        Quote: vladsolo56
        Refute. This is not bullying, this is analytics.

        In Russia, they rightly say that “without the permission of V.V. Not a single dog will bark at Putin ... ” Thus, the point of view of the official state media in Russia can rightfully be considered the point of view of the Russian president himself.

        Here is just one example of such a "warm attitude" to the Kiev junta:
        I’m talking about how it was launched and how it circulated first on social networks, and then on various media misinformation that the “people's governor” of the Luhansk republic “sentenced” the leadership of the Donetsk republic to death ...
        First, on the Russian Spring Internet resource, and then there was overclocking on social networks. And then - the most interesting. By morning, along with the suspension of hostilities in Donetsk, even some Ukrosi had given a rebuttal.
        Immediately in the morning, having come to work, some of our media outlets reprinted misinformation, despite the fact that there was already a refutation on the Internet. Well newspaper. Roo understand. At first, I was surprised by the Nezavisimaya Gazeta newspaper, which positions itself (through K.Remchukov) as a solid publication.
        Thus, they completely quoted official Kiev’s messages, without even bothering to check the reliability of this crazy information.
        It seems that President Putinuo is very necessary at all costs to maintain a "friendship" with the Kiev junta ... Why, what is the question?


        Here is my analytics - a mirror image of the above article. Compilation of article phrases and facts from the information front - our media also reprint explicit stuffing.

        Now please: make a comparative analysis of the "analytics" of the original article and mine.
        And most importantly: do not forget to answer my first question: how this "analyst" differs from the analyst of the State Department, based on social networks.
        1. vladsolo56
          -1
          25 August 2014 18: 21
          And where did you get the idea that I stand on the side of Putin. I do not believe him, and for a long time. But now I only believe in the leadership (military) of New Russia, and I want to defeat them and create a free, popular government.
          As for Lukashenko, I don’t believe him now either,
    2. nvv
      nvv
      +14
      25 August 2014 15: 27
      Quote: Beloborodov
      Another bullying Old Man ... ordered.

      I put you a plus for understanding the issue.
      1. -1
        25 August 2014 15: 38
        What harassment did he always look to the West from Russia for discounts and loans begging
      2. +3
        25 August 2014 16: 26
        Quote: nvv
        Quote: Beloborodov
        Another bullying Old Man ... ordered.
        I put you a plus for understanding the issue.


        I'm with you guys
        I’m with you guys!
        To you, nvv and Beloborodov, I address with words from a song about Sanya.)
        1. nvv
          nvv
          +2
          25 August 2014 17: 15
          Svetlana, I'm glad to hear that.
    3. Bosyak
      +3
      25 August 2014 15: 39
      Nonsense! From the very beginning, the Old Man proved to be a good trader. Whenever sanctions are announced against him, he swears allegiance to Russia. As soon as sanctions against him are weakened or stopped, or relations between Russia and the West are cooling down, he begins to twist his nose and backwards looking for benefits in this situation (remember at least August and the subsequent events of 2008).
      1. +2
        25 August 2014 20: 02
        SANCTIONS WRONGING? FROM THIS PLACE, PLEASE LEARN MORE HELP US.
  7. +4
    25 August 2014 14: 57
    Well, you can’t lie under Bandera’s, well, dad, well, my., dad are you or confused?
  8. DMB-88
    +14
    25 August 2014 14: 59
    A provocative little article! Its purpose is to undermine the authority of Lukashenko among Russian citizens! These libel will not pass!
    Lukashenko is the only leader of the Union republics who didn’t let the privatizers go round and who constantly advocated for the Union of Fraternal Slavic Republics, and the fact that this was not part of the concept of the Russian and Ukrainian ruling elites was not his fault.!
    The little article is a libel and simple revenge for Lukashenko for his allied sentiments and the rejection of the oligarchy!

    Article bold "-"
    1. +12
      25 August 2014 15: 02
      Let me disagree. I respect the Old Man, but there is one thing. I don’t really like the constant wiggles of the dad from us to the West and back. It is impossible to understand for us or not. And this is alarming.
      1. DMB-88
        +10
        25 August 2014 15: 22
        Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
        It is impossible to understand for us or not. And this is alarming.


        The answer can be that NATO is not yet near Smolensk!
        Moreover, Lukashenko does not accept either geyeuropa or the states!
        for them he is a despot and tyrant, and a good parashenka!
        1. +4
          25 August 2014 16: 28
          The wisest words.
        2. 0
          25 August 2014 17: 17
          tomorrow will show who with whom and against whom ...
      2. +4
        25 August 2014 15: 26
        Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
        It is impossible to understand for us or not.
        Always, for whoever he is - he is for himself.
      3. +23
        25 August 2014 15: 48
        Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
        Let me disagree. I respect the Old Man, but there is one thing. I don’t really like the constant wiggles of the dad from us to the West and back. It is impossible to understand for us or not. And this is alarming.

        Strange you, brothers Russians, treat us. We are not for Russia, we are not against Russia, just as we are not for or against Ukraine. We are for Belarus. And Lukashenka is trying to "do well" for his country (and at the same time for himself). Very often the policy of Belarus coincides with the policy of Russia, but by no means always. Oddly enough, but Russia and Ukraine are our neighbors, no more and no less. And if two neighbors have a squabble, the third is that, with a yell, "Banzai" should rush into a fight on someone's side? Or it may be more correct to take a neutral position, so that, for example, through him you can somehow communicate.
        By the way. Troops to the border were deployed in February, and were not assigned anywhere. And refugees are not only going to Russia. I live in a small village, a school at 70 children, this year 3 new students: from Poltava, Donetsk and Shakhtyorsk. No problems with a residence permit.
        And about the media. Yes, the newspapers mainly serve official Ukrainian news. But, with reference to the sources, and at the end there is always the only comment on the subject, that all this is a fratricidal war and every effort should be made to end the bloodshed as soon as possible. And on TV our official channels "NTV-Belarus" and "RTR-Belarus" - there news and analytical programs (Russian of course) are broadcasted in full. Where is the one-sided provision of information here?
        1. +5
          25 August 2014 16: 22
          Quote: Eragon
          Quote: WYCCTPUJIA
          Let me disagree. I respect the Old Man, but there is one thing. I don’t really like the constant wiggles of the dad from us to the West and back. It is impossible to understand for us or not. And this is alarming.

          Strange you, brothers Russians, treat us. We are not for Russia, we are not against Russia, just as we are not for or against Ukraine. We are for Belarus. And Lukashenka is trying to "do well" for his country (and at the same time for himself). Very often the policy of Belarus coincides with the policy of Russia, but by no means always. Oddly enough, but Russia and Ukraine are our neighbors, no more and no less. And if two neighbors have a squabble, the third is that, with a yell, "Banzai" should rush into a fight on someone's side? Or it may be more correct to take a neutral position, so that, for example, through him you can somehow communicate.
          By the way. Troops to the border were deployed in February, and were not assigned anywhere. And refugees are not only going to Russia. I live in a small village, a school at 70 children, this year 3 new students: from Poltava, Donetsk and Shakhtyorsk. No problems with a residence permit.
          And about the media. Yes, the newspapers mainly serve official Ukrainian news. But, with reference to the sources, and at the end there is always the only comment on the subject, that all this is a fratricidal war and every effort should be made to end the bloodshed as soon as possible. And on TV our official channels "NTV-Belarus" and "RTR-Belarus" - there news and analytical programs (Russian of course) are broadcasted in full. Where is the one-sided provision of information here?

          Plus!
          For, IMHO, the only sound comment in this thread ...
        2. +2
          25 August 2014 22: 10
          I will add to your statement about programs and news. he himself had repeatedly heard about 2 months ago in the BELARUSIAN news as the announcer spoke about PUPPERS of the Donetsk People’s and Lugansk People’s Republics. And more than once!
        3. +1
          26 August 2014 03: 14
          Quote: Eragon
          Strange you, brothers Russians, treat us. We are not for Russia, we are not against Russia, just as we are not for or against Ukraine. We are for Belarus. And Lukashenka is trying to "do well" for his country (and at the same time for himself). Very often the policy of Belarus coincides with the policy of Russia, but by no means always. Oddly enough, but Russia and Ukraine are our neighbors, no more and no less. And if two neighbors have a squabble, the third is that, with a yell, "Banzai" should rush into a fight on someone's side? Or it may be more correct to take a neutral position, so that, for example, through him you can somehow communicate.
          By the way. Troops to the border were deployed in February, and were not assigned anywhere. And refugees are not only going to Russia. I live in a small village, a school at 70 children, this year 3 new students: from Poltava, Donetsk and Shakhtyorsk. No problems with a residence permit.
          And about the media. Yes, the newspapers mainly serve official Ukrainian news. But, with reference to the sources, and at the end there is always the only comment on the subject, that all this is a fratricidal war and every effort should be made to end the bloodshed as soon as possible. And on TV our official channels "NTV-Belarus" and "RTR-Belarus" - there news and analytical programs (Russian of course) are broadcasted in full. Where is the one-sided provision of information here?

          In general, that is correct, but unfortunately Batka just took a non-neutral position. Let me explain: Batka even promised the UVS (Ukrainian armed forces) support in the ATO. (I’ll say on my own behalf, as soon as I found out about this, I just swore in three-story folklore) And what the most interesting thing Father runs to where they pay more, but if suddenly there is a danger that an armed conflict with the "European partners" arises in Belarus. Father runs to us: "Russia, let's conduct exercises, Russia, let's you protect me." And this "venality" of Father It just kills me on the spot. So, the simple conclusion: Old Man runs to where they pay more (and this was not always the case). Here is food for thought. If you do not agree, say so.
      4. 0
        26 August 2014 00: 58
        it is between us and the west - everything is simple. Therefore, pressure is on both sides. Hesitation is inevitable, but betrayal is impossible
        1. 0
          26 August 2014 13: 12
          Quote: OldWiser
          it is between us and the west - everything is simple. Therefore, pressure is on both sides. Hesitation is inevitable, but betrayal is impossible

          Sorry, but we, between whom, then, will have to get to the same shore anyway, if you don't
    2. -6
      25 August 2014 15: 12
      Quote: DMB-88
      The little article is a libel and simple revenge for Lukashenko for his allied sentiments and the rejection of the oligarchy!

      Article bold "-"

      It’s one thing that he’s already done (saved), another thing he’s doing (fools) and there are friends and friends there, it doesn’t!
      1. DMB-88
        +11
        25 August 2014 15: 28
        Quote: evgenii67
        and there are friends and friends there, it doesn’t happen!


        I want to note that export deliveries abroad are not friendship, but the conditions for the country's survival! And I also remind you that 4 months ago, it was not Lukashenka who hugged and spoke German with Merkel, it was not Lukashenka who kissed Western "partners" on various world summits and parties!
        Advice: less trust the zomboyaschik and similar articles !!!
    3. nvv
      nvv
      +3
      25 August 2014 15: 29
      And I didn’t doubt you. Hi.
      1. DMB-88
        +3
        25 August 2014 15: 40
        Hello! connect to enlightenment !!!
    4. +8
      25 August 2014 16: 04
      Quote: DMB-88
      Article bold "-"

      Well, thank God, otherwise I somehow wilted somehow.
      1. nvv
        nvv
        +9
        25 August 2014 16: 10
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        Quote: DMB-88
        Article bold "-"

        Well, thank God, otherwise I somehow wilted somehow.

        Misha is above the nose. You are not alone.
        1. DMB-88
          +6
          25 August 2014 16: 18
          Quote: nvv
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: DMB-88
          Article bold "-"

          Well, thank God, otherwise I somehow wilted somehow.

          Misha is above the nose. You are not alone.


          The enemy intrigues should not drive us into despondency, but rather call for a fight !!!
          Fire Battery !!!!
  9. +3
    25 August 2014 15: 00
    He’s just afraid that he’ll start a mess too,
    1. +3
      25 August 2014 16: 19
      It has already been so long since how the ruler organizes his security service and will rule it.
      A properly organized Security Council is a long board. For example I. Grozny, I. Stalin, F. Castro, etc.
      But whoever did not create or did not trust his Security Council, alas, perished in the prime of his life, without having done anything for his state. Yu. Caesar, for example, was killed in the color of years, right in the Senate. And there are plenty of similar examples, from the Egyptian pharaohs to Kadafi and Hussein.
      Alexander G. made the right conclusions.
    2. +3
      25 August 2014 20: 08
      We have tried to destabilize the situation more than once. There were very serious referendums with Poland, the situation was resolved along with our Poles. Actively worked Ukrainians-dispersed. Lithuanians and Swedes are still trying, I had to ask the Swedish ambassador to visit relatives and not return, we do not miss him.
  10. -9
    25 August 2014 15: 00
    Quote: DEZINTO
    dad are you or confused?

    He fussed in time
    1. +6
      25 August 2014 17: 56
      I hammer a big Russian minus with a cast-iron Ural fist :)
  11. +8
    25 August 2014 15: 00
    Of course, in Belarus all this Russophobic activity is not as aggressive as in Ukraine.

    In Ukraine, this, too, was vaccinated on an increasing basis.
  12. +7
    25 August 2014 15: 01
    Lukashenko acts as an intermediary. He himself does not like it. This work.
  13. +22
    25 August 2014 15: 01
    Throwing definitely. The opinion of our president is not the opinion of the whole people. I communicate with many people (more than a hundred) at work and have not heard Russophobic sentiments from anyone.
    ... Thus, she fully quoted the official Kiev posts, without even bothering to check the reliability of this crazy information ...
    Well, I quoted, and what follows from this? Nobody canceled the Russian TV channels from us.
    Author, minus you.
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  15. VICTOR-61
    +10
    25 August 2014 15: 02
    but it seems to me that Lukashenko specifically by decree of Moscow took neutrality — where negotiations between EU Ukraine and Russia can take place, I think that the Old Man will not go against Moscow, and if he expresses something, it means that this is necessary for the common cause
  16. +19
    25 August 2014 15: 02
    It got to the point that this year, on Victory Day in Belarus, “the use of St. George symbols” was “not recommended”.

    Nonsense is complete. Everywhere in Belarus they handed out ribbons; I have friends there. And Lukashenko is far from quarreling with Russia.
    1. +13
      25 August 2014 15: 53
      Exactly. Balarus honors the memory of the heroes of the Second World War. I think there will be no one abandoned (groomed) grave, obelisk, monument to the defenders of our country, who fell at the hands of the invaders. On this day, both St. George ribbons and flowers are symbolic, which are given expressing their gratitude to both old and young our respected veterans. In our country, this is one of the most revered dates, since the victory came at a huge price - every third Belarusian died.
      There are 448 Belarusians and natives of Belarus awarded the title "Hero of the Soviet Union" for the Great Patriotic War. Fighter pilot Alexei Antonenko was the first to be awarded a native of Belarus, bomber pilot Nikolai Gastello was the first Belarusian by birth. In two families, two people were awarded (brothers Weinrubs and brothers Lizyukovs).
    2. +8
      25 August 2014 18: 22
      I will clarify the issue of ribbons. In large shopping centers, they lay in prominent places, whoever wanted it took it. Through one machine with ribbons. Hanging on themselves - Belarusians are very modest people, it is not customary for us to stand out. It’s better to go shopping with a veteran, they will help than they can. It was raining before May 9, and high school students were pouring flower beds in a military cemetery. I say, go home, get cold, no, you can't, tomorrow is a holiday. 9500 burials were made candy before July 3. Moreover, the youth earned money for this in student teams and on subbotniks.
      1. +8
        25 August 2014 20: 35
        Divorced many ill-wishers and nonsense. For many years, a wedge was driven between Ukraine and Russia. The result is visible. Now they stubbornly want to separate the Russians and Belarusians. We do not believe bullshit. Thanks for the truth.
  17. +15
    25 August 2014 15: 03
    How many Lukashenko steers years already? and they didn’t bring him down for years, the West will press somewhere, somewhere the slack will be given to it by politics, and Belarus is not a superpower anyway hi
    1. 0
      25 August 2014 16: 03
      They didn’t dump Him because Russia supported: it recognized all elections, gas prices were good, etc. But somehow I did not receive reciprocity in return, Alexander Grigorievich always "played his game." Maybe this is good for Belarus and Belarusians, but somehow it goes to the detriment of allied relations. I think that friendship should be mutual, and not just "this is for me, this is for me, this is also for me." And, after all, in fact, Lukashenka does not have a single real ally, and if Russia turns away, then the West instantly "grabs" Him, as it was with Gaddafi (he also tried to be "above the fight"). The president of "All Belarus" has forgotten about it.
      PS Never, during the whole term of His presidency, did not consider Him a friend of Russia.
  18. +2
    25 August 2014 15: 05
    Old man sometimes brings in on the wave of commercial interests and the prospects of getting cash, then he flirted with China, then with Chavez ... What do you want - "the last dictator of Europe" !!! laughing but he hears others, if that!
  19. 0
    25 August 2014 15: 05
    despite the sometimes very difficult foreign policy situation and the economic difficulties caused by it, he is always able to ensure a decent life for the citizens of his country.


    The answer, unfortunately, is obvious: all assurances of loyalty to Russia and declarations of unity with the Russian people, repeatedly heard from Lukashenko, are in fact a disguise. As before, the Belarusian president probably counts receive specific material benefits in exchange to gradual changes in their position in relation to the assessment of the crimes of Kiev and the reduction of its support.

    The second paragraph gives an exhaustive answer to the question in the first paragraph.
  20. tverskoi77
    +9
    25 August 2014 15: 06
    Live with wolves, howl like a wolf. Most likely, Lukashenka is playing the role of an "intermediary" assigned to him, who is just entering the stage. The whole blow of the Anglo-Saxons is designed for the turmoil in the Slavic world and they would gladly stick to Belarus, for example, the label of a humanitarian aggressor. And, so Belarus has nothing to show and it can act as an intermediary.
    1. +4
      25 August 2014 15: 19
      Quote: tverskoi77
      Most likely, Lukashenka is playing the role of an "intermediary" assigned to him, who is just entering the stage.
      I have the same opinion: the long confrontation between Belarus and the Western world has tired Lukashenko. And now he has a chance to play his card and improve his western image.
      So he maneuvers - he needs to be moderately loyal to the West and not greatly annoy Moscow, which seems to be an extremely difficult task.
      Lukashenko is well aware that the Kremlin will think ten times before quarreling with him - he is too strong a player in the European arena.
    2. -4
      25 August 2014 15: 43
      Acting? And what does the Belarusian people have to do with it then? For some reason, the Belarusian media and TV in Ukraine were not turned off. The other day I went to the Belarusian site "Belarusian partisan" and was horrified. There about Russia the same as the Ukrainians. I wonder if our TV is shown in Belarus? Is there anyone from Belarus on the forum?
      1. +10
        25 August 2014 17: 31
        There are Belarusians at the forum. Your TV in Belarus is shown, plus satellite channels, plus the Internet. And the "Belarusian partisan" is the same Nazis as in Ruin. But they do not determine the attitude towards Russia and the Russian world. the comrade spoke all his life in Russian, and suddenly he switched to "MOV", so they stop greeting him. That's something like that.
        1. +3
          25 August 2014 18: 10
          Thank you for the information!
        2. +5
          25 August 2014 19: 27
          There is also EU Charter 97 for money. It’s still a dump. But democracy cannot be closed.
      2. +5
        25 August 2014 19: 15
        Pavel Sheremet, the main one, lives there in Moscow, and you warmed him and gave the citizenship a snake
        1. +2
          25 August 2014 20: 12
          Pavlik Morozov. Chief in the mud to Belarus. So far I have not spoiled you. And in Minsk, young people understood it long ago, by beating their faces.
    3. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      25 August 2014 17: 21
      Quote: tverskoi77
      howl like a wolf

      ... dumbtsuki
      ... in polski
      ... like a wolfyy
      by (word) + (- oh, th, -tsuki-ski-yy) = is written with a hyphen.
      1. tverskoi77
        0
        26 August 2014 16: 03
        ... pioneer
        That's right: pioneer)))
  21. Alexan
    -4
    25 August 2014 15: 08
    Recently, European representatives began to talk with Lukashenka. The collective farm mind, bam, suggested that it was necessary to play around among everyone - it was so profitable and easier to bargain with Moscow. Reasoning of the Belarusian man in the street: Russians want to crush all business in Belarus, use naive "brothers" in their own interests. They have the same "Khokhlovsk small-town nature" - they forget at whose expense they are fattening. All social benefits are due to cheap gas and oil. Their vileness will still play a cruel joke. I do not believe the "allys". LukashenKO - ungrateful hohlyara!
    1. +6
      25 August 2014 17: 43
      Reasoning of the Belarusian man in the street: Russians want to crush all business in Belarus, use naive "brothers" in their own interests.

      And history confirms this. Or forgot how Belaruskali clan Dvorkovich wanted to tear up?
      So Batka has a lot of enemies in Russia. And if the Western Old Man eats, the Russian liberals will eat Belarus. And there will be "Pskov region"
      All social benefits due to cheap gas and oil.

      It's strange ... Old Man grants "social benefits" to the people using foreign oil and gas. And our government on its own can not ... Hots would support the agricultural as with the Old Man.
  22. -2
    25 August 2014 15: 10
    dad is scared ... blather - the fate of Ukraine awaits ...
    support Russia and Novorossia - you will get big bonuses ... but you will lose from your Nazis (and they are in Belarus), and a cookie from Ukraine ...
  23. -4
    25 August 2014 15: 11
    In this matter, our close allies were not up to par, which cannot be said for India and Latin America, who would have thought, but were waiting for support from their partners, as it were.
    1. 0
      26 August 2014 17: 54
      Today, that is, 26.08/XNUMX read, or look.
      Putin accused Belarus of banned re-export of goods from the EU. “Even within the framework of the Customs Union, goods from the EU countries that are banned for import into the Russian Federation are already being transported. In this case, unfortunately, through Belarus,” the president emphasized. “Here it is signed: the country of origin is Belarus. The sticker was torn off. "Poland ... I know that the leadership of Belarus, both the government and the president, are trying to prevent such negative and illegal practices. At least we have an agreement with them, we do not have this with Ukraine."
      Full Broadcast: Newspaper.Ru
  24. 0
    25 August 2014 15: 13
    And why the blood of the victims of Ukrainian punishers does not knock in the heart of Alexander Lukashenko?

    The commercial benefits of today are above the memory of conscience.
  25. special
    +17
    25 August 2014 15: 13
    Oh well, so that Belarus did not recommend St. George symbols on Victory Day ... Bullshit, IMHO
  26. +2
    25 August 2014 15: 15
    Oh.renet! If the result is an alliance of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus without Bandera, then for some time such a "combination" can be tolerated, but if not, then only swear.
  27. Vitalka
    +6
    25 August 2014 15: 18
    but it seems to me that Lukashenko specifically by decree of Moscow took neutrality

    What could be better? His among strangers! In politics, it is better not to come up with explicit neutrality in your bosom allies. Let the Geycomissaries, Merkel and Parashka hope tomorrow on Father’s in Minsk talks in Minsk. He will merge these into the toilet in one motion.
    1. -1
      25 August 2014 18: 34
      something is hard to believe in it - "He will pour these into the toilet in one motion." ... and yet - I do not think that Alexander Grigorievich would have been delighted with this - "... he took neutrality by Moscow's decree ..", to the specified comrade, it is more like a sickle on the genitals ...
  28. +4
    25 August 2014 15: 19
    Yanuk also wanted to sit on two stools ... but just do these flirting with the Nazis he will not add a rating ... would open the story and remembered Khatyn ..
    1. +8
      25 August 2014 15: 55
      Hmm .. for some reason everyone remembers Khatyn, but the memorial was made by the whole Union. But in contrast to the same Ukrainians and many "Russians", we remember the lessons of history and more than 8,5 burned-down villages on the territory of Soviet Belarus.
      On the other hand, every rosian knows how many villages were burned in the Bryansk or Smolensk regions, and where is the monument to all the destroyed villages of the Second World War generally located ???

      look here: http://db.narb.by/
      if there is a similar project in the villages of the RSFSR or Soviet Ukraine - throw a link.
      1. +4
        25 August 2014 19: 31
        After visiting Belarus on July 3, Putin ordered the eternal lights to be repaired. We Belarusians understood why. we have respect for veterans and burial sites. Had a home for their WWII veteran, many thanks for all possible help and attention.
    2. +6
      25 August 2014 16: 29
      Quote: novel68rus
      I would open the story and remembered Khatyn ..

      Khatyn is visible from his window.
  29. +8
    25 August 2014 15: 19
    And Lukashenko has long had an understandable policy. Little by little everywhere. And his own model of the socio-political and economic structure of the country. Something between the social and the cap device.
  30. +8
    25 August 2014 15: 24
    Weird !! What did you want to get from the Old Man ??? 20 years on all his proposals to transfer the economy into close cooperation, our thieves answered with a polite refusal, when the Old Man refuses, this is already worthless. In life, you have to pay for everything, as you are to people, so they are to you.
    1. +4
      25 August 2014 19: 10
      Lukashenko has made it possible for businesses to work for us many times. But .. The strategy is always the same, to cut money and hide. The last case is the 5th block of the Berezovskaya hydroelectric station. which the Russians were supposed to put into operation in 2010. The Chinese 6 and 7 have long built and everything works, and the 5th block is still in question.
      I have two friends businessmen paid for sovm. business with the Russians. They promise, and then with money they dissolve in the vastness of Russia. And people are sitting, wives could not stand it and got divorced. One went to Russia with the children, the second married Poland and went there with the children. Here they will sit and what awaits them, all is lost.
  31. Common sense
    +17
    25 August 2014 15: 25
    Labuda. There is no need to chase Lukashenka, he was the only one who did not bend in the 90s "under the changing world." L. & BB. they play their game, not for little minds;) he according to all the rules, this is how he should speak out in the current circumstances. See how and what will happen in 2-3 years ;-)
  32. +13
    25 August 2014 15: 25
    http://img.tyt.by/n/01/d/alleya-geroev-4.jpg
    In Gomel, an avenue of heroes was created. THE USSR. In fact, every name from this alley is called the streets of the city.
    And if he (Lukashenko) openly opposed dill, then where would they meet now?
  33. -10
    25 August 2014 15: 26
    Typical "VANE"
    1. +4
      25 August 2014 21: 52
      are you talking about? if about the dad, then in vain!
  34. +15
    25 August 2014 15: 27
    A muddy article. I could hardly read. Something is wrong here.
  35. -5
    25 August 2014 15: 27
    ... there is a saying - "respect your enemy, as he is in front of you, but fear the coward - a traitor, and hate the indifferent because you do not know who he can become, either an enemy or a coward-traitor." So think about who he is, who is both ours and the Nazis?
    1. DMB-88
      +5
      25 August 2014 16: 24
      Quote: DMB-75
      So think about who he is, the father, which is ours and the Nazis?


      You are a provocateur !!!!
  36. -12
    25 August 2014 15: 27
    I agree with those who advocate improving relations with the countries of Latin America, and as for Belarus, you need to keep an eye on these neighbors. Belarusians as well as Ukrainians will betray and accuse Russians of all mortal sins. Lukashenko already supports Kiev, knowing that he might be in Yanukovych’s place. Minsk media is reporting the situation in Ukraine from official Kiev sources, thus, in the eyes of the Belarusian people, Russia looks like an aggressor. Indeed, Russian TV channels broadcast in Belarus without our news. Therefore, it’s quite possible to get a stab in the back from the bulbs.
    1. DMB-88
      +4
      25 August 2014 16: 29
      Quote: veteran56
      Belarusians as well as Ukrainians will betray and accuse Russians of all mortal sins. Lukashenko already supports Kiev, knowing that he might be in Yanukovych’s place.


      Leave your "conclusions" for the "Novodvorsk" !!!
      And do not dishonor the Russians in front of the Brothers, otherwise they will think that only "provocateurs" like you live in Russia!
      1. 0
        25 August 2014 17: 25
        The Russians have so many "brothers" that they cannot count, but for some reason in difficult times these "brothers" disappear somewhere and Russia is left alone with problems. But, as for the "provocateur", this applies more to You unnecessarily hang labels without going into the essence of the problem is just your way.
    2. +9
      25 August 2014 16: 39
      After all, Russian television channels are broadcast in Belarus without our news.

      That’s how, I’m watching TV, but according to RTR Kiselev, in the final program, Belarusian news broadcasts live, and in Belarusian.

      Where did you get this information, several entertainment channels were closed in Belarus, but the main ones are coming. The only thing is our weather forecast is inserted and ad units.
    3. +1
      25 August 2014 18: 57
      Are you talking to yourself? are you comparing with yourself?
    4. +7
      25 August 2014 19: 33
      ALL YOUR NEWS SHOWS US. DO NOT LIE!
    5. 0
      26 August 2014 02: 58
      The impression is that some Svidomo Belarusians have gathered here. A normal person sees different sides of every event, every person or social order. But there is, it turns out, a lot of people who see the world in black and white. They do not accept a different point of view on the problem, do not want to see the shortcomings of a friend and the merits of an enemy. Such people always play the battle, because they do not proceed from objective premises, but from that "correct" picture, which they themselves drew. Thank God that now at the head of Russia is a man who (with all his shortcomings - and who does not have them?) Can see both the lack of a friend and the dignity of the enemy, and most importantly - use all this in politics. And it seems to me that those who fiercely (well, admit to yourself) hate Putin do not want to see Lukashenka's shortcomings.
  37. +18
    25 August 2014 15: 30
    They make judgments about the Old Man like a kid from a neighboring yard, behaves like a kid, blood, you see, he doesn’t knock victims, and he has few consciences, and he’s a bargainer ....
    Forgot that Lukashenko is the President of the neighboring state. An independent and sovereign state. And he leads much more efficiently .... many, many. Be it a rag, our oligarchy ate it and passed it through the rectum back in the 90s. And Old Man is shrinking.
    Lukashenko should be smeared with Bandera blood. Not worth it ....
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +2
      25 August 2014 17: 25
      Quote: Chen
      Not the same Lukashenko to smear banderovskой blood.

      ...smear Bandera droppings..
  38. +18
    25 August 2014 15: 33
    I here on the site somehow spoke unpleasantly about the Old Man. So, Belarusians friends immediately began to minus. But I will say all the same in his defense. From Putin, we also did not hear the words of condemnation (which the author of the article wants to hear from the Old Man) personally Poroshenko and specifically certain figures of the Ukrainian political Olympus. In addition to the streamlined statements by the Foreign Ministry, there is also nothing. Statements by various deputies of the State Duma and the Federation Council, such as Zhirinovsky, do not count. And why did they get that Old Man will zealously rush to expose the ukrokhunt. From the point of view of non-interference in the internal affairs of a neighboring state, this is correct. But with regard to the policies of the European Union and the United States with regard to Russia regarding the Ukrainian crisis - Old Man with us. So everything is fine.
    1. DMB-88
      0
      25 August 2014 16: 35
      there is a person on the site "H. Er. at Wim" (aka TREPLO and a big fan of plus signs), who loves Putin very much.
      I wonder what he will write about his president ?!
      AAA --- UUUUUU, where are you Mr. WATER ?!
    2. +1
      25 August 2014 21: 50
      I agree, and especially about the statements of our drivers so to speak! Well, right in the eye! if the GDP still says something about fascism, then the head of the government got water in his mouth, (or maybe he took something else, maybe a lemon or something else?) wassat
  39. -8
    25 August 2014 15: 33
    Old Man simply slows down out of habit, apparently did not understand that the time when it was possible "and fuck .. sit down and eat the fish, passed!"
  40. +5
    25 August 2014 15: 35
    C'mon, you ran into the chairman, wait and see.
  41. +1
    25 August 2014 15: 37
    Old Man wants Belarus to prosper, prosperity, prosperity and strengthen its power. At whose expense - it does not matter. Both to the west and to the east ... That’s who rushing around and can’t hunker down to one bank ... But since they have created a single customs and ideological union, not only benefits, but also burdens must be shared together. And Lukashenko will never understand - he will drive to the west - there will be neither himself, nor prosperous Belarus. Ukraine did not teach him ... And with Russia in the same harness - there is the prospect of prosperity, well-being, and its long-term rule ... It is time to decide. Without Russia, Belarus will die like Ukraine and will go on hired jobs to panam ..
  42. -6
    25 August 2014 15: 40
    Lukashenka lives by the principle “divide and rule, or“ both yours and ours. ”But he thinks not about the people of Belarus, but about his chair. In some ways he can be understood. For the time being, this will be tolerated in the Kremlin too.
  43. Avarec
    -3
    25 August 2014 15: 42
    all these princes - the heads of state of the former union republics surfaced in '91 as Mr. after breaking through the sewers ... it is foolish to say that they will be guided by historical parallels, the interests of their peoples ... therefore it is more expensive to expect allied fidelity from them. We have only two allies - the Army and the Navy, and in everything we must proceed from this
  44. +1
    25 August 2014 15: 42
    Cunning Grigorievich, we are so, they say this!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXzWtHvskE#t=49
  45. Signature
    +10
    25 August 2014 15: 43
    A politician does not live with his heart, and he does not even always live with his mind.
    Most often - costing, analytical multi-paths, exchange-based relations, etc. tactical and strategic values.
    This is just clear.
    Another thing is not clear - is another politician possible? And where can you see it live?
  46. +20
    25 August 2014 15: 47
    Minus article
    I live in Belarus and I really can’t understand this phrase:
    In the same way, the Belarusian mass media quotes in large quantities the reports of the Kiev officialdom about how the militia themselves allegedly bombard those cities that they protect.

    ??? links please, as they say proof in the studio.
    and if you are too lazy and reprint articles from the Regnum and other liberals, then go to http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/world
    there is information and news from NEWS AGENCIES both in Russia and Urkainy and the rest of the world,

    Yes, and go through the tag of terrorism (because the media in Ukraine are so called militants ???) and see the news from there.
    to the site of "Soviet Belarus", "Republic" ....

    It's a shame to read this
    1. +12
      25 August 2014 16: 19
      It's a shame to read this


      We very much hope that the peoples of Russia and Belarus will have no reason to argue. We beg you, do not succumb to provocations of the West and do not perceive Western anti-Russian propaganda at face value. And most importantly, do not miss the younger generation, it is very easy to zombie.
      1. Signature
        +3
        25 August 2014 17: 56
        I would venture to share a sad observation: it (the "young generation") does not zombify (otherwise everyone would be literate, polite and educated), it spoils very easily.

        (WONDERFUL tanker: real! There would be more such "young people" ...)
        1. Signature
          0
          25 August 2014 18: 19
          This is not a zombie (not a boring, monotonous introduction into the consciousness of something one and the same). This proposal to sink (practically to scrutinize) to the level at which conscience, the ability to treat oneself self-critically simply does not work. It is convenient to agree that you are the best and deserve the best.
          Throughout Soviet history, they taught to love the homeland and not to spare yourself for the sake of it. Was this zombie crowned (for more than 70 years) with success? ..
  47. Zubrminsk
    +12
    25 August 2014 15: 49
    Quote: evgenii67
    Quote: polite people
    He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

    Old Man, in recent years he has often become a crib, maybe insanity ?! or maybe ask your population if they want to be in Russia with Russia ?! Anyway, a lot of your citizens come to Russia to earn money, to study ..., including in the neighboring Smolensk region, where I live. So maybe your citizens should not go to Russia, but to make Russia in Belarus ?!

    Here the guys have arrived !!! Maybe the name North-West Territory will suit you better ?! Has Putin already decided on everything? Somehow I didn't notice that he rushed to Ukraine with a saber! Or directly told Poroshenko that he was the killer! If Putin needed Lukashenka to express his attitude to Ukraine, it would be long ago that "the last dictator in Europe" gave his SUPER assessment of what is happening! And so ask Putin why Old Man is silent ...
  48. +4
    25 August 2014 15: 59
    About a warm understanding between Lukashenko, Poroshenko and ... Bandera.
    I know one thing. It is said that the LORD will judge according to our deeds, and will be rewarded according to the servants of everyone. Yes
  49. wanderer
    -4
    25 August 2014 16: 01
    Quote: ZubrMinsk
    Quote: evgenii67
    Quote: polite people
    He cannot decide which side to be on. It's a pity.

    Old Man, in recent years he has often become a crib, maybe insanity ?! or maybe ask your population if they want to be in Russia with Russia ?! Anyway, a lot of your citizens come to Russia to earn money, to study ..., including in the neighboring Smolensk region, where I live. So maybe your citizens should not go to Russia, but to make Russia in Belarus ?!

    Here the guys have arrived !!! Maybe the name North-West Territory will suit you better ?! Has Putin already decided on everything? Somehow I didn't notice that he rushed to Ukraine with a saber! Or directly told Poroshenko that he was the killer! If Putin needed Lukashenka to express his attitude to Ukraine, it would be long ago that "the last dictator in Europe" gave his SUPER assessment of what is happening! And so ask Putin why Old Man is silent ...


    Old Man has that position - the president of the whole country - Belarus .... and the country is Slavic, in this case (war in Ukraine) silence, well, it’s not gold. Here, Old Man must decide, and he - and not yours, and not ours. In general, in his country and abroad, the opposition is not weak, and it only at first glance seems that Lukash is unsinkable.
    Old Man, do not lose! ... otherwise it will be too late, Russia may not forgive.
    1. +4
      25 August 2014 16: 13
      I do not exclude the possibility that Lukashenko plays a role. Perhaps controversial and unattractive, but somehow Patrashenko needs to be put at the negotiating table. And there, two brass boys with an aksakal, their brains will be set ...
      1. -2
        25 August 2014 20: 45
        Quote: hawk
        I do not exclude the possibility that Lukashenko plays a role. Perhaps controversial and unattractive, but somehow Patrashenko needs to be put at the negotiating table. And there, two brass boys with an aksakal, their brains will be set ...

        The prince of Belarus wants to become equal, that Europe would bow to him. And as luck would have it, he doesn’t notice him. Paraska’s peacemaking desire to make Minsk equal to Moscow and Berlin. It’s useless to mediate in the military-industrial complex, Moscow put on Kiev kilo with a gain. There is a complete replacement of Ukraine in the military-industrial complex. recourse Let him continue to do zigzags under the wing of Russia.
  50. +4
    25 August 2014 16: 03
    Quote: Alfizik
    Lukashenka lives by the principle “divide and rule, or“ both yours and ours. ”But he thinks not about the people of Belarus, but about his chair. In some ways he can be understood. For the time being, this will be tolerated in the Kremlin too.

    Saddam Hussein also ruled, it would be better if he still sat in his chair, there would not be such lawlessness and massacre in Iraq now.
  51. +5
    25 August 2014 16: 05
    Quote: special
    Oh well, so that Belarus did not recommend St. George symbols on Victory Day ... Bullshit, IMHO

    It was, it was. May 7-8 was actively discussed on tut.by (like mail.ru). It was sincerely bewildering, but a lot of cars still drive with St. George’s ribbons.
    1. +7
      25 August 2014 16: 58
      It was, I remember.
      Some incomprehensible youth organization tried to ban St. George symbols. I even sent a letter somewhere there. That's all. There was controversy online, but I never heard the reaction of the authorities anywhere.
      And the resource tyt.by, the founder of which is Ziser Yuri Anatolyevich, a native of Lvov, is still a garbage dump. Many active tut.by users are registered in Lithuania and Poland.
    2. fisherman
      +1
      25 August 2014 23: 47
      It’s enough to see how WWII monuments are taken care of; you don’t always see this even in Russia
  52. 0
    25 August 2014 16: 10
    Quote: CONTROL
    Dad is scared

    This explains his behavior - just turn around and that’s it, he’s gone.
    The country is in decline, the ruler is a usurper, the economy is a beggar - everything is natural. I just feel sorry for the people...
  53. 0
    25 August 2014 16: 10
    What to expect from a small state? So Lukashenko is trying not to harm his neighbors by accepting the radical side of one of them. Let them live as they want, they can’t put pressure on them. I hope that things will not come to Russophobia, although signs are appearing. But it seems to me that after “father” is gone, Belarus will face a color revolution. Another unstable neighbor on the border with Russia. In other matters, this scenario has been prepared for all former republics of the USSR. And by and large they have something to be offended at us for - Because Russia is their neighbor.
  54. 0
    25 August 2014 16: 10
    As I said before, Lukashenko will finish the game very soon. The irony of fate is that Belarus, in principle, will not get away from this, because Lukashenko is trying to be closer not to customers (for example in Latin America) but to a bright and pleasant picture of the West, I don’t want to go into now how it is there and what is happening on the basis of Nazism , for this is already the last stage before the beginning of the end of the country, which, regardless of the results of the completion of this stage in the future, will certainly destroy the country.

    The question here is the economy, which organizes the physiological functioning of citizens, and only after saturation comes the spiritual and social.

    Physically, in the world, a small country of less than 10 million people cannot develop production, due to the scarce raw material base and human and intellectual resources that should ensure the development of this industry (this applies not only to Belarus, by the way, this also applies, for example, to the Russian Federation, it simply does not have enough population to develop normally now, because the precision engineering sector requires not only educated people, but also their critical mass for the production of an intellectual product). Belarus received more of the production resources of the USSR without a raw material base. In a global market and competition of industrial products with double standards and without occupational instruments for sales markets and resources, he is simply forced to try to find ways to supply both raw materials and a sales market for his industrial products. Because In the Russian Federation, he has everything going for him, he is trying to play on the attempts to occupy the Russian Federation by the West. Do not have any illusions, as the Americans say - they have the same partners, until the right turn. It’s the same with Lukashenko. He is betting on the West in the current big game, thinking of getting markets, benefits and goodies from the West, their technologies, and in the future, if things work out well and the West occupies the Russian Federation, then maybe it will take some resources for itself...

    But he is very mistaken, as it was in democratic Greece many thousands of years ago, there were citizens and all other domestic animals (slaves). So it is for the West, which exploits 6 billion. All people east of Germany are just animals, and by the way, mind you, no one really hides this, especially when supplying such goods as “democracy”. He will not receive either technology or funding - it will all come down to the fact that they will help him bite the Russian Federation, then they will kick him out, the enterprises will be bought up and go bankrupt, and everything will be the same as with the rest of almost all people from Eastern Europe.

    Years will pass, and I am absolutely sure that, using the example of Belarus, we will see Ukraine 2.0 of the 2014 model, because it uses Soviet instruments, since European market ones for third world countries are tantamount to suicide, and as a result, the economy loses competitiveness and, as a consequence, the standard of living, in Ultimately, in order to contain all this, you have to slide into G.. sorry, into Nazism and still exist for some time, hoping that the economy will be boosted by cheap slave labor, non-humans. What we have already begun to observe...
  55. calocha
    +1
    25 August 2014 16: 12
    The author is wishful thinking!
  56. 0
    25 August 2014 16: 14
    Yanukovych tried to sit on two chairs and ended up on the floor. And Lukashenko fidgets in all the chairs.
    He rules the country quite well thanks to Russian support, but in international politics he does not feel comfortable and does not behave consistently. And “dragging Kolya along with him” to official meetings
    looks stupid and intrusive. By the way, at Poroshenko’s inauguration, he said that he was sure that Ukraine
    will become a single state and Crimea will be returned. I personally heard this heresy of his. What is this? Next
    spitting at the nurse, or bragging about one’s “independence”? They say about such people - “An elephant in a china shop.”
    He imagines himself to be the second “Stalin”, and he twirls his butt like a girl. It’s disgusting to have such an “ally”, but
    you have to endure, but he plays on this and brazenly extorts. Therefore, no one takes all his “statements” seriously in international politics. Only Russia tolerates him.
  57. Bobo beck
    0
    25 August 2014 16: 17
    There are no friends in politics, there are national interests, and the Kremlin taught Lukashenko this. From a dreamer, he turned into a pragmatist, and defends the interests of Belarus. There is little love between peoples - economic independence is needed, now the majority of Russians, thanks to the media, believe that the former countries of the USSR, without Russia, are nothing... And such notes constantly slip through, and the fact that Russia was raised by the entire Union, just as the Russians raised the whole Union.... This is historical truth. I don’t defend Lukashenko, but I don’t criticize him either. As a person, he can hold some opinions, and as a statesman - others... We, in Russia, have not for a second broken off relations with many European and American companies... At the same time, sanctions and so on, so on...
  58. -1
    25 August 2014 16: 17
    Dear comrade. Tulyev, this article is not provocative. I know Belarus quite well. My parents are from the Vitebsk region, and I myself, as the head of the main department of one defense ministry, created and brought to design capacity the Vitebsk Television Plant, the Grodno Car Radio Plant and a number of other enterprises in Minsk and Brest. The article sets out the facts that Russian people should know. And the President of Belarus protects his people and increases the power of his state and friendly countries in the Union (i.e. us and Kazakhstan). History will judge everyone, but it’s creepy to read about the facts of atrocities committed by Ukrainian nationalists against civilians. By the nature of my work, I know even more than what is written here. I have the honor.
    1. nvv
      nvv
      +2
      25 August 2014 16: 40
      Drop. The name is provocative. Put on a par the person who saved the country from collapse next to these scum.... And then sweeten the pill with facts about the atrocities of Ukrainian nationalists against the civilian population. And the forum users bought into this trick.
    2. +1
      26 August 2014 13: 14
      provocative.
      same as your comment.
      in one paragraph both lies and truth are given out.
      If there are facts, please provide links.
  59. Tanechka-clever
    0
    25 August 2014 16: 24
    “President Lukashenko really needs to maintain “friendship” with the Kyiv junta at any cost... Why, that is the question?”

    And everything is very simple. Lukashenko, like any dictator, is ready to pray to any GOD - just to stay on the throne. However, like Yanukovych and all the presidents before him and after him in Ukraine. Thirst for power in the sense of EGOISM" is a destructive passion that can kill all living things around such a tyrant. Power is the right to live in the name and for the people who elected you, and there simply cannot be another right. Having received a "chest of goodness" after the collapse of the USSR - his They ate, forgetting that every chest has a bottom. And today there are already crumbs at the bottom - the people are “empty”, and, as they say, it is not permissible to offend yourself. But the Soviet regime accustomed the red feudal lords to a FREEBIE - “at the behest of the pike and at my behest" or that one man would feed two mediocre “generals”.

    The truth is that in any society there is social labor, and this labor must be managed, and for this it is necessary not only to be in power and have power structures to suppress the dissatisfied, but also to distribute the “results” of this labor. Man is a bird that is always free, even if he is forced. Lukashenko clearly did not teach his grandfather Karl Marx, but in vain. All Ukrainian presidents tried to sit on three chairs. They imagined themselves to be feudal lords, and the people to be unwitting peasants - the result today we already know is the Maidan and war. Classic...

    Games with all the EU, USA and Russia at once under the name “Who will pay me the most” failed. Here in Poland it worked out for the Baltic states too - after all, they are not Russian and not Orthodox, they are like family to them, and the Russians are strangers and will always be strangers. The blood of our ancestors held us together, and therefore we can only be torn out without a root - but we will not live long, and this is already physiology. Russian people have one God and one Motherland.

    It is clear that Lukashenko begins to bargain with Russia and threaten that tomorrow he will move to the West - and then he will be “COVERED”.... “covered”.... “covered”. I don’t advise him to play such a game - the Belarusian people are patient like the Russians, but they will be more decisive than the Ukrainians, and the script is TERRIBLE. But he loves his little boy so much, and therefore he had better change his policy before it’s too late. In Europe, his son and Belarusians with their own character are certainly not needed. Lukashenko must not forget the fate of Gaddafi if he wants the best for his son.
    1. Dunno
      +3
      25 August 2014 19: 13
      You may be looking like Tanya, but you're smart...
      1) Lukashenko has been president for 23 years (!), Putin - 14, Potroshenko - 75 days. He was asked to have a higher education and “scientific communism” at one time.
      2) In Russia and Ukraine, liberals and Jews are in power. There was something to steal here, half the world was raised on our mineral resources, and Russia still had a lot left. And Belarus is a country poor in mineral resources, but their lives have not become worse. I have their refrigerator (Atlant, 10 years old - no worse than German and others); underwear, cosmetics, tractors for export. And we are all in exchange for oil and gas, gold and polymetals.
      And Potroshenko is a Jew and the entire elite is Jewish. Will Lukashenko defend this garbage? He doesn’t respect Russia either, for our corruption and theft.
      ...
      In general, nurse, wisdom will come to you over time, perhaps.
      1. 0
        25 August 2014 19: 27
        Those. do you conclude that since Alexander Grigorievich has been in power for n-tsty years, that means he is omnipotent and omniscient? And if the Head of State is given credit for having a higher education - well, no comment... laughing
        And by the way, just imagine the price of gas for Belarus at 350-370 USD. ? Comrade has had enough. Lukashenko’s genius to at least leave “everything as it is” in the economy? laughing
        and this - does Lukashenko respect Russia at all for anything?
  60. +4
    25 August 2014 16: 26
    But don’t! Almost everyone who expressed their thoughts in this forum called him the same “Batko”! A man originally from the USSR, who got such a difficult position, and he pulls it out! Even if sometimes with a grinding sound, he pulls it out! Suggest that at least one of you try to replace him, at least virtually, anyone to disown, but he pulls and he has reduced crime to almost nothing and the factories are supported by agriculture. Like everywhere else, everything cannot be good everywhere, everywhere has its own sorrows.. Father! I'll raise a glass for your health!
  61. ed65b
    -2
    25 August 2014 16: 27
    It’s especially touching how my dad decided to stock up on vegetables and fruits, he even stirred up a scheme with Zimbabwe, but our Rosselkhoznadzor is clearly on guard, saying apples don’t grow in Zimbabwe. It didn't work. laughing
    1. +2
      25 August 2014 18: 42
      Regarding the supply of products to Russia, this was a RUSSIAN proposal. Belarus has NOT ANNOUNCED sanctions to anyone - we have been under sanctions for many years. So there is no need to blame the sick head for the healthy one.
    2. +3
      25 August 2014 22: 45
      What does Belarus have to do with it? It was Poland, under the guise of Zimbabwe, that brought apples to Russia. What does Belarus have to do with it?
      1. ed65b
        -1
        27 August 2014 13: 10
        yeah nothing to do with it. Yesterday GDP hit daddy’s balls with photos.
  62. +5
    25 August 2014 16: 33
    Meanwhile, for many years in Belarus they have been distorting and distorting history, extolling the Polish kings and Lithuanian princes. It is significant that every year the number of references to the mass heroism of Soviet citizens on the territory of Belarus during the Great Patriotic War is decreasing, and the official media prefer to use expressions like “Belarusian people”, “Belarusian partisans”, “citizens of Belarus”, etc. so much so that this year on Victory Day in Belarus the use of St. George’s symbols was “not recommended.”

    Tell me, Stepan Bulbenko, have you ever been to Belarus? Where does the crazy information about kings and princes come from? Who shortens references to heroism during the Great Patriotic War? Look how popularly the dates of May 9 and July 3 are celebrated! How the faces of ordinary citizens shine these days, and not just the protocol faces of bureaucrats. And why shouldn’t the citizens of Belarus be proud of the exploits of the Belarusian people. And judging the entire country on the ban of the St. George's ribbon by an idiot on the regional scale of one district is, to put it mildly, unwise (especially since he did not ban, but did not recommend - these are different concepts). I am not a Belarusian, but after the article I got the impression that the friendship of the Slavic peoples - Russians and Belarusians - was being artificially undermined - and in a negative light for Belarusians. If you want to criticize the government, then there is no point in pouring dirt on the entire people. Your article is a minus hi
    1. 0
      25 August 2014 17: 02
      Listening to you makes me want to spit so much, they also found me an earthly paradise in the Republic of Belarus, yeah.
      Since you are not a Belarusian, there was no point in pressing buttons or writing anything.
      Have you seen a history textbook in the Republic of Belarus at school? No, don't say anything else.
      The fact that our Belarusian politics is like that of a girl of easy virtue is one hundred percent clear.How to discount gas or oil - he loves the Russian Federation SO much that you are amazed. But as soon as the Russian Federation refused, a howl begins, and so on, and accusations of betrayal and friendship.

      There was a war in South Ossetia - our ZERO help and ZERO condolences and zero condemnation.
      The war in the SE - ZERO help, ZERO condemnation, ZERO condolences. In short, complete ZERO.

      In my understanding, friendship is - as they say, in sorrow and in joy and until the very end.
      So, even a blind person can see everything here, yes or no? fool
      1. -2
        25 August 2014 17: 26
        I fully support you in assessing the actions/inactions of Alexander Grigorievich... this is reminiscent of political prostitution...
  63. -1
    25 August 2014 16: 35
    Cookies and jam Kolya Lukashenko from Turchinov (at that time, on the orders of the ghoul, children and women were massacred in eastern Ukraine)
    [media=http://vk.com/video225036444_169167703?list=1fc80ef05712da3243]
    1. nvv
      nvv
      0
      25 August 2014 17: 31
      Mikhail, it was the poet who addressed these words to you. I don’t remember verbatim, but something like that. Half-scoundrel, half-ignorant, but there is hope that you will finally be complete. It’s vile to denigrate people in this way.
      1. -3
        25 August 2014 18: 04
        comrade army general laughing - allow me to address laughing Are you saying that there are sneaky ways to denigrate people? laughing
        and on the topic - half my lord, half merchant, half sage, half ignorant, half scoundrel, but there is hope that he will finally become complete - they still relate more to comrade ... that is, master ... that is, in general, to Alexander Grigorievich ...
        I have the honor.
    2. 0
      25 August 2014 18: 30
      Quote: makano
      Cookies and jam Kolya Lukashenko

      Heir
      1. +4
        25 August 2014 21: 27
        Do you have children? This is the height of cynicism to mock children.
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  65. Bobo beck
    +4
    25 August 2014 16: 37
    There are no friends in politics, there are national interests, and the Kremlin taught Lukashenko this. From a dreamer, he turned into a pragmatist, and defends the interests of Belarus. There is not enough love between peoples - economic independence is needed, now the majority of Russians believe that the former countries of the USSR, without Russia, are nothing, zero without a stick... But in the USSR everyone worked for each other, equally war, and deprivation, and victories.. .. In general, we don’t have a middle ground, we can call “our” Asians chumps and immediately sympathize with the Syrians and Palestinians, and worry about the fat, arrogant blacks in Ferguson.
  66. +3
    25 August 2014 16: 45
    Recently, dad began to lose his sense of reality. He does not understand what is happening in his own country, let alone Ukrainian delights. Dad has only one thing on his mind: where can I get the money? After all, no one gives anymore. And Russia is tired of supporting people for free. How not to get swept up in here...
  67. 0
    25 August 2014 16: 45
    Let Luka not forget what happened with Yanukovych, he also wanted to sit on two chairs and looked to the west and wanted to join the customs union! and about residency about,,, STUPID DEER! soldier
  68. -1
    25 August 2014 16: 47
    I’ve said it here many times already - Lukashenko is a cunning goose! will be friends with those where there is benefit! I would list the Chinese as friends with more confidence than Lukashenko (not to associate with the entire people of Belarus), although the Chinese have a grudge against our territory.
    z.y. You can downvote, but this is a fact!
  69. +5
    25 August 2014 16: 49
    The article is complete rubbish!!!! I just arrived from Belarus, traveled all the way from east to west, and back. Spent most of my time in Brest. So, the opinion of ordinary Belarusians is the same as the Russians! And the attitude towards Bandera’s followers is extremely negative! And in general, few people from the former USSR remember their history as well as the Bulbashi! And the attitude towards Lukashenko is good everywhere. And he thinks not about the chair, but about Belarus! Nowadays there are few politicians who love their country! And all his actions come from THIS! How much he loves and supports his agriculture, one can only envy! There is practically no import of food, including alcoholic beverages. Prices are 10-15% lower than Russian ones, and the quality is many times higher! I agree they live poorer than us, but in general, Belarus is a strong country, with a future! And if they had the same amount of oil and gas, I don’t even know what would happen... Yes, official TV reminds us of ours in the 80s. But firstly: the position on Ukraine is negative, although perhaps restrained. And secondly: there is always an alternative - ALL our channels! In short, I did not regret choosing Turkey or Belarus on vacation, I made the right choice!
    1. -3
      25 August 2014 17: 14
      Which ward are you traveling from?? wassat If everything is as you write, move here to live!!!!!Moving through is one thing, but living or, as they say, stewing in it, is completely different.
      No one argues that Belarusians know their history (we have the police, not the police), but the younger generation is slowly forgetting, but after reading you, one gets the feeling that you promote the sanatoriums of the Republic of Belarus.
      Just look at textbooks on the history of the Republic of Belarus and world history and see how much is written about the Second World War.

      And our position on Ukraine is, how can I put it, hypocritical. And after everything, we still want lower gas and oil prices!
      1. -2
        25 August 2014 19: 49
        BELARUS, if you don’t like Belarus so much, then a suitcase, a train station. They don't hold anyone by their coattails here. Everyone is free to look for a better life.
        1. -1
          25 August 2014 19: 54
          now - we’ve already gone through this with ukrobanderlogs - a suitcase, a train station, why didn’t they add - Russia?...
          1. +3
            25 August 2014 20: 38
            Why Russia/ Maybe Poland or Lithuania is closer to a person. Don't disrespect the country where you live.
            1. 0
              25 August 2014 20: 58
              Where did YOU read that I criticized Russia??? It is YOU who slightly belittled Belarus with your statement - a person lives in this country and expresses his opinion, while YOU are not trying to refute it with reason, but are oppressing Bandera’s “suitcase, train station...”...
        2. -1
          25 August 2014 20: 36
          Reminds me so much of your neighbors
  70. -5
    25 August 2014 16: 54
    >>
    Well then, following this logic, one should revise the assessments of some events during the Second World War and declare that the inhabitants of the Belarusian Khatyn themselves, and not the Bandera bastard, burned the village along with the inhabitants! This is a “split ass” dangerous for “health” when they try to sit on two opposite political positions (chairs) at once! So it’s high time for the “father” to make a decision!
  71. 0
    25 August 2014 17: 00
    Quote: askort154
    Yanukovych tried to sit on two chairs and ended up on the floor. And Lukashenko fidgets in all the chairs.


    That's right. So you can continue to squirm. And now Old Man is greasing Ruin, and driving trucks with his goods to us. According to some stories of my friends (and friends of my friends),
    as well as comments from friends living near the borders of Russia and Belarus (on both sides), Lukashenko, taking advantage of Russian sanctions that were very beneficial for him, sharply increased trade turnover with us. There have never been so many trucks with Belarusian license plates on our roads. This is understandable: his country, as a producer of agricultural products, needs to occupy sharply vacated niches in the Russian agricultural market as quickly as possible. This is where you need to “take it lukewarm”. And perhaps ours should start by simply explaining to the Belarusian president that his nods to the Ukrainian-European side can, quite easily (no one has yet canceled the codling moth and other nasty things) close the way to our market for his goods. I am sure that after such opaque hints, Batek will become like silk. And, after thinking a little for good measure, he will declare that Parasenok is indeed a pretty brute, and in general a fascist in life. And Yaytsenyukh is finally a complete idiot and his place is near the bucket.

    Quote: askort154
    He rules the country well thanks to Russian support, but in international politics he does not feel comfortable and does not behave consistently. And “dragging Kolya along with him” to official meetings looks stupid and intrusive. By the way, at Poroshenko’s inauguration, he said that he is confident that Ukraine will be a unified state and Crimea will be returned. I personally heard this heresy of his.


    Lukashenko is well aware that without the Russian market, the already weakly powerful Belarusian economy risks being covered with a copper basin following the “not dead-but-already-soon” situation. And in his case, no US or EU patrons will save or help him. It’s just that after Yanukovych and Kyiv, it will be the turn of Lukashenko and Minsk. But I still want to play at being independent. Although, what the hell is independence?
    Can you imagine how the Poles are now gorging themselves on their apples? And if something happens, Belarusians will get more than just one fruit! There you will need to eat half the food basket!
    So for now everything is fine. I think Vladimir Vladimirovich turns a blind eye to these Belarusian quirks. For “Whatever the child amuses himself with, as long as he doesn’t hang himself.” Or democracy, but independence did not play a role. Which in their situation is approximately the same thing.
  72. 0
    25 August 2014 17: 03
    Yes, everything is going wrong in Belarus.... And what about the fact that their entire economy is based on Russian oil and gas?
    Self-sufficient country? It will be devoured in a month (if Russia suddenly closes its eyes) - no one will remember that there was such a country in Europe.
    And the fact that Old Man is afraid for his throne is for sure. Otherwise, Belarusians would not have come up with a “new history” and their own “heroes”.
  73. 0
    25 August 2014 17: 03
    And almost no one in our country remembers the fact that the Ukrainian punitive forces burned Khatyn and many other villages in the country.
  74. +6
    25 August 2014 17: 07
    Both in Russia and in Belarus they remember that along with the people who heroically fought against fascism, there were also traitors who served them and sometimes they surpassed the Germans in cruelty. But...... both in Belarus and in Russia they are ashamed, hate them and want to forget them in every possible way. The same cannot be said about the dill who made this scum into national heroes. This is the most important difference between us.
  75. 0
    25 August 2014 17: 10
    KSAM (the creative author is clear who)
  76. 0
    25 August 2014 17: 18
    “Lukashenko immediately tried to smooth out these initiatives, emphasizing that, they say, these will not be bases, and possibly not Russian planes, but Belarusian ones.” Now, according to Chausov, the president of Belarus justifies his concessions in the military sphere of Russia by the threat of NATO.
    Against the background of these discussions, it became known yesterday that Ukraine refused to hold a meeting at the level of the foreign ministers of the CIS countries, which was to be held in Minsk today, although it itself initiated it. Most experts associate this development of events with the latest actions and statements by Lukashenka. ("Soviet Partisan" 25 August 15:56)
  77. +2
    25 August 2014 17: 29
    Quote: vadimN
    Doesn’t Old Man understand that if Russia sways, then Belarus will not have to talk about sovereignty anymore ... His EU and the USA will swallow without chewing ...
    "Only in unity is our strength!" It may be a common phrase, but in fact it is correct. One lover of two chairs is already resting in Rostov, but where will the dad run if he does not strengthen the Slavic union?


    Everything is smart, father. It is thanks to the physiological ability to quickly move the gluteal muscles that this plow strategist can sit on several chairs without straining. laughing
  78. -1
    25 August 2014 17: 35
    I once sympathized with Lukashenko, but now, after his attitude towards the events in Ukraine, I get the impression that the ashes of Khatyn do not knock on his heart.
  79. +6
    25 August 2014 17: 54
    I’m sitting here reading the posts of Russian patriots and I’m amazed: how quickly we all abandoned our Motherland. Just 100 years ago, the territory that is now called Ukraine or the Republic of Belarus was Russia. Our great-grandfathers died for the intervention in Donbass and Minsk in 1941...1944, believing that they were fighting for their land. With this mindset, you have already lost World War 3, if only because you “accepted” the division of your united Motherland within the existing borders, borders imposed on you by the enemy. But putting Lukashenko on a par with Poroshenko, Bendera or anyone else doesn’t make much sense. He took an oath to act in the interests of the citizens of his country. The old man will endure and did not tolerate such things. And the article is clearly custom-made, the third one recently on this site. The angle of this “cycle” is clearly visible.
    1. fisherman
      0
      25 August 2014 23: 54
      + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + good
  80. -2
    25 August 2014 17: 58
    The author of the article is a provocateur, like all those who warmly supported it.
    Belarus was and remains Russia's most reliable ally, despite the fact that Russia often tried to put very strong pressure on Belarus, trying to chop off the tidbits of its national wealth.
    The fact that Belarus does not want to quarrel with any of its neighbors is its advantage, not a disadvantage.
    And this will now be very useful for Russia in its trade war with the West, because... Belarus will compensate for many of Russia's losses by re-exporting the same Western goods.
    In the end, any power in any country is a transitory thing, but the people of this country are basically permanent and not so bad. And there is no need to try to change this value from the outside and make it fluctuate in accordance with the fluctuations of the power elite currently ruling in the country that is pressing.
    This applies to Russia, Ukraine, the USA and all other Europe. Yes, from time to time those who are worthy of this power have been and are still trying to get to power in these countries.
    But this does not mean that the entire nation is responsible for every black or white “monkey” that has climbed to the pinnacle of power. Moreover, both in the history of the USSR and in the history of Russia there were many of their own “monkeys”.
    And it’s time for us to learn to separate the flies from the cutlets, and the “monkeys” in power from the people.
    But the problem is that history teaches and teaches, but cannot really teach anyone.
    This is why articles like this appear to the accompaniment of a stormy “approve with” some and no less stormy “down with” others.
    1. -1
      25 August 2014 18: 15
      they say this - only those who are worthless have no enemies... being pretty to everyone has never led to anything truly good... and we are not talking about the fraternal Belarusian people, but about one specific person who He has been the head of Belarus for more than one term...
  81. +2
    25 August 2014 18: 17
    To be completely honest, I liked my dad as a politician who managed to preserve a small country in a decent form when the tough ones were squabbling and managed to maintain, at the same time, a completely decent face. But lately I don't understand him. Some of his statements and actions make me doubt his sanity. Now he needs to be closer to Russia than ever, and he gives out pearls that cannot be called anything other than betrayal. Overall, I'm upset. negative
  82. +1
    25 August 2014 18: 26
    Stepan Bulbenko, what is your nationality? And where do you live? I just asked a question on the next branch. Why Putin, Lukashenko are persuaded by deaths about Nazarbayev’s silence. And the articles went ahead of the meeting in Minsk separating our peoples. It seems that the enemies wound up among the people responsible for the publication of the articles.
    For nvv-Nazarbayev, the issue of Ukraine has long been extinguished. In our Kazakh media, this topic is covered very sparingly.
    1. -1
      25 August 2014 18: 47
      This article makes you think a little... perhaps Comrade. Bulbenko is a provocateur, but just remember all the friendly actions of Comrade. Lukashenko since 2008... Is it possible to send a list of them to the studio, if it’s not difficult?
  83. -2
    25 August 2014 18: 33
    In 2012, on Victory Day, we went to Belarus to Brest. I can’t say that we (Russians) were warmly welcomed there, rather a little better than in Kyiv. In Belarus they really cultivate their heroes and also cultivate connections with Russia. I am completely sure that if Lukashenko had a choice: with Russia or the EU, it would be the same as in Ukraine.
    Is it possible to forgive Lukashenko for fraternizing with neo-Banderaites and attending Poroshenko’s inauguration!? Moreover, to honor with a minute of silence those who killed, tortured, and burned the inhabitants of Belarus? And our ambassador Zurabov got dirty at that inauguration. Lukashenko behaves like a traitor, and not like a “dirty” politician. He has no faith.
  84. -1
    25 August 2014 18: 41
    No union is eternal, no named brothers are our brothers. Any agreement is concluded by the parties in the hope only of their own benefit, and is valid only as long as it is beneficial to one of the parties. The old man is not at all original here. Just trying to sit on eighteen chairs at once. We need him for now, that’s why we put up with all the extravagances. Until a certain point, let him pretend, as long as he doesn’t go crazy looking at his southern neighbors.
  85. 0
    25 August 2014 18: 46
    Lukashenko always tries to sit on several chairs. And so to speak, he earns bonuses from the contradictions of the parties... That’s the whole explanation... As soon as “Novorossiya” represents a force, he will also meet with its representatives in the same way...

    PS. The country is small, there are no resources... Spin as you want!
    PS2. As soon as the fuss began, the Russian Federation immediately placed an air regiment on the territory of the Republic of Belarus + a couple of bases in question. So... Old Man is not... The country just needs money!
  86. Dunno
    +1
    25 August 2014 18: 47
    Author Stepan Bulbenko?
    I wrote so much. What is what. Here is a review from another forum of the same article:

    Vasily # August 25, 2014 18:54 reply
    A strange choice of words and facts. The author clearly suffers from a lameness away from reality. It’s easy to understand Lukashenko. Russia and Ukraine are in conflict. Neighbors of Belarus. We, Belarusians, have to live with them. Obviously, taking sides in this case is politically and economically disastrous for our country. And the people expect a balanced policy from Lukashenko, without jerks and jumping from side to side.
    But the author should not meddle in our memory of the victims of the war and attribute forgetfulness to us. Press on the wrong keys. We won't play for you here...
  87. +2
    25 August 2014 18: 50
    Any normal leader will act in the interests of his country first and foremost. And only then friendship and everything else. And finding enemies is not a tricky business. It's much harder to keep friends.
  88. 0
    25 August 2014 18: 52
    Embracing (guided, as he thinks, by the highest political wisdom which he has achieved) with those who burned people in Odessa and Mariupol - Turchinov and Poroshenko - Luka desecrated the memory of all Belarusians about Khatyn and all the Belarusian victims who fell during the Second World War. It was the fathers and grandfathers of these scum who burned Khatyn and hundreds of villages in Belarus.
  89. 0
    25 August 2014 19: 04
    In Ukraine, everything also began very modestly. You can’t ignore such “subtle” hints. In a few years, Belarus may repeat the “feat” of Ukraine. Russia must actively engage in information work. No matter what Old Man squeals. At least the radio station should function in two languages ​​- Russian and Belarusian. There should be similar radio stations all over the country's borders. It would be worth paying attention first of all to Transnistria (Russian-Moldavian radio), Crimea (Russian-Ukrainian), Belarus (see above), Kazakhstan (Kazakh-Russian). It's dangerous to waste time on trifles here. Experience shows that you will have to pay in blood
  90. +1
    25 August 2014 19: 04
    As N. Starikov correctly noted in this situation. Look not at what dad says, but at what he does.
  91. +3
    25 August 2014 19: 10
    And that again, the attack of the Russian oligarchy on Lukashenko, if you look at it like this, then Russia cannot negotiate directly with Ukraine, but through Belarus it can, in general, Lukashenko has his nose to the wind, because if the Boeing plane had been shot down by Ukraine, it could have done it in Belarus to drag Belarus in into the war, And we must not forget that Belarus and Ukraine lived together for 500 years
    1. 0
      25 August 2014 19: 16
      Tell me, how can you come to an agreement with someone who doesn’t want to negotiate? Lukashenko in Minsk tomorrow will try to play the role of a miracle worker-peacemaker, like a “historical event” happened in his capital, Putin and Poroshenko agreed... it would be funny if it weren’t so sad...
      1. +2
        25 August 2014 21: 30
        Suggest another meeting place. Minsk residents will be happy and will not block the city.
  92. +1
    25 August 2014 19: 26
    When in early spring we politely returned Crimea home, Lukashenko, without hiding his irritation, accused the Ukrainian military in Crimea of ​​cowardice, calling their actions “like a mouse under a broom”... What is more here - envy of our President and Russia or something else - decide for yourself... But this is what he is, our “faithful ally” Lukashenko....
    1. -2
      25 August 2014 19: 45
      HE JOKED. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THE JOKES OF POLITICIANS
      1. -1
        25 August 2014 19: 51
        well, yes - like if anything happens - he won’t stab us painfully... just kidding wassat
        1. +1
          25 August 2014 20: 40
          What about soaking in the toilet?
  93. +1
    25 August 2014 19: 34
    Quote: Past_ Crocodile
    "...in comparison with which Chechnya will seem like a children's party."

    Wow, Lukashenko’s expression for Russia, from which Belarusians feed!
    He also threatens!!!
    Oh, you naughty Belarusian “father”...
  94. 0
    25 August 2014 19: 43
    that's what Belarusian oppas write
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    A closed funeral of local paratroopers who died in the Donbass took place in the village of Vybuty, Pskov region. Several servicemen were buried in a cemetery near the training ground of the 76th Guards Air Assault Division, reports Slon.ru, citing its own sources. About a hundred people took part in the funeral ceremony. Among them are mainly relatives and friends of the victims. Why and when they died is not reported. The names were announced: graves were dug for fighters Kichatkin and Osipov.

    As Slon.ru reports, on the eve of the funeral, Ilya Vasyunin (journalist for Russian Planet) called Leonid Kichatkin’s wife. A certain person talked to him and introduced himself with the name of the deceased.

    Let us recall that NATO’s statements about the participation of fighters of the Pskov division, who were partially stationed in the Rostov region, in “active hostilities” in Ukraine were denied by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Although on Thursday, August 21, some Ukrainian media reported that they could have died on the territory of the ATO.

    It also became known that Sergei Shoigu awarded the personnel of the 76th Airborne Assault Division with the “combat” Order of Suvorov. According to the Minister of Defense, such an award was presented, among other things, for the actions of the division during the Crimean referendum, which took place in March of this year.



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    1. +1
      26 August 2014 16: 09
      hahaha
      naviny bai
      I can’t laugh, you can also tell me that these are official media
      hahaha
      naviny bai is an online newspaper of BelPAN news agency
      The abbreviation “BelaPAN” stands for “Belarusian Private News Agency”. Type of ownership - closed joint stock company, shareholders – private individuals.

      damn, how much is mono??? read who it is and who owns these newspapers
  95. +7
    25 August 2014 19: 45
    I'm Belarusian. And I respect my president for not letting the country fall apart and not allowing “color revolutions,” i.e. did not allow much bloodshed within the country. But his attitude and flirting with the current fascist government of Ukraine offends me. I said everything.
    1. fisherman
      +2
      26 August 2014 00: 05
      the whole West pressed, he withstood
      flirting with 404 yes question,
      the Maidan horseradish will jump in my favorite country, I personally will make a sausage for as long as I have enough strength
      We sow peaceful people drinks
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  97. Everest2014
    0
    25 August 2014 20: 37
    Not everyone approves of the actions of Kyiv with its Nazi assault battalions:
    http://consortiumnews.com
    /2014/08/13/ignoring-ukraines-neo-nazi-storm-troopers/
    News in English.
  98. 0
    25 August 2014 20: 37
    Not in the subject, but ...
    CyberBerkut Doberman burned. Alive, it looks like a bastard:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVGuurOzFQA&feature=youtu.be
  99. maxim1
    -1
    25 August 2014 20: 59
    Father is objectively a hindrance in the integration of the EURASES states both in the economy and in politics. The GDP cannot ignore this nonsense and sooner or later it will get to the father. Maybe not the first time, but the GDP will “level out” the father. Such a “king” is not needed in any union.
    Lukashenko understands his “sins” and is therefore afraid of GDP.
    Because, among other things, he has not yet “repaid” his past “pranks”...
    And he doesn’t understand that flirting with the junta will not be a “+” for him, but a deep “-”.
    1. +1
      25 August 2014 21: 33
      Which ones specifically? Maybe you mean filing an application against Kerimov with INTERPOL?
  100. +1
    25 August 2014 21: 08
    Report from Kyiv - Parashenko jumped out of the window
    "Russians are coming. Russians are coming. They're already around. I saw Russian soldiers!”