On the rules of "Military Review". Appeal to visitors

16 2014 June 283

Dear visitors! I appeal to everyone on behalf of and on behalf of the site administration.

Recently, the quality of comments on materials posted on the site is beginning to cause concern. Both administrators and moderators.

Comments are a component without which it is impossible. Although many online media easily cost, so as not to make hemorrhoids with moderation. At the Military Review, great attention is paid to comments, because comments often contain opinions that make it possible not only to supplement the posted materials, but to supplement them qualitatively and interestingly.

Again, almost no one is limited in expressing one’s attitude to a particular issue.

But why use the so-called. profanity? Why force modders to give you warnings and comments? If someone thinks that moderators are not satisfied with something organisms that get high from issuing warnings, then this person is greatly mistaken.

Let's think together.

"Military Review" - this is not the site of a small party for a handful of like-minded people. It is referenced by other media and publishers, copyrighted material quoted and repost. This is the level, no matter what.

"Review" read. And every day more and more. And, unfortunately, more and more non-literary expressions appear in the comments every day.

Russian language is really great and powerful. And if a person owns it, then you can easily convey your thoughts and emotions to readers without a mat. You can, he repeatedly checked.

And recently it has become normal to use swears, “diluting” with dots, commas, numbers. Yes, and do not agree with the warnings. “This is a quote from a song,” “3,14 is not a veil,” and the like.

For many years in the world we were exposed as wild barbarians who could only eat vodka with bears, dance to the balalaika and trade in gas and oil. Times seem to change, and people do too. So, probably, it makes sense to change us.

The Russians have already shown that they can be polite. And very much so. If you prove that everyone can be polite and cultural without an automaton, it will be great in general. Although it is more difficult.

There is no point in “watering” your opponent with everything in memory. For this there is a "Censor". Almost all the amateurs and professionals of this case gathered there. And here it is recommended to present your arguments and opinions by the power of reason, and not by the level of profanity profanity.

Dear visitors! Since the appeal "dear" has taken root, then let's respect not only each other, but also the means of our communication.

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29261

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16 June 2014 18: 13

I'm talking about respect! Somehow about 30 years ago in one distant country, one elder said the wise words “RESPECT THE BELIEFS AND OPINIONS OF OTHERS AND YOU WILL BE RESPECTED!”, and the longer I live, the more I agree with him. The Russian language is truly great and powerful and when you come across non-normative vocabulary is jarring. It’s probably also impossible without swearing, just like a second language, but still, let’s respect each other and, as far as possible, do without rudeness.
siberalt

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16 June 2014 18: 14

Hidden swearing - this refers to the fantasy of the “recipient”. So in every Russian word you can find it like two fingers on the asphalt. Writing through incognito dots among thousands of participants who are completely unfamiliar to you is straight swearing and is definitely unacceptable. The fight against swearing began with the Christianization of Rus'. Russian swearing was used both as a talisman and as a curse. Cursing is like remembering God in vain. For everything from which the human race comes has become a non-Christian dialect (“undivine”). An educated person knows the extent of admissibility of expressing a concept under appropriate conditions. And no matter how Christians fight the essence of the Russian language, nothing will come of it. It’s not the swearing that needs to be fought, but the lack of education. In addition to full-time moderators, there are enough participants on our forum (and they are the overwhelming majority) for those who can “restrain” excessively literary commentators. Therefore, playing catch-up to see who can better see or hide the “hidden” swear word is essentially meaningless and deliberately interferes with Russian speech. It is NOT necessary to allow undermining of Russian speech, but individual excessively loose tongues should be punished with minuses. A moderator is not as scary as public censure. Something like this.
1. Kisel
  
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  17 June 2014 03: 39
  
  Quote: siberalt
  siberalt
Kuzbassovets

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16 June 2014 18: 16

There are articles that you wouldn’t even look at without swearing...
samoletil18

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16 June 2014 18: 50

I propose to create a section "BOARD OF SHAME". Do not post for political orientation and grammatical errors, but for personal insults, fenugreek, profanity, outright nationalism (Not to be confused with patriotism), etc. put on public display at Military Review.
If moderators catch me, I’ll take it for granted.
taseka

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16 June 2014 18: 56

It sometimes happens when emotions about scum are overwhelming, but I also try to “make up” them beautifully - I agree with the Author - we need to restrain emotions, portray them in the words of the classics, transform them into paintings by world artists and speak the language of diplomacy!!!
Andrey Ulyanovsky

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16 June 2014 18: 59

The article, formally, into the vein - swearing and other branches of the Great and Mighty is appropriate among those who think in swearing; however, there is no qualification for registration; therefore nothing more than good wishes. If we already have a megaforum on topics, then, in addition to deleting comments from especially gifted ones, it would be nice to introduce a system for banning commentators with an inadequate stream of consciousness.
Falcon5555

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16 June 2014 19: 24

Often in the comments there are opinions that allow not only to supplement the posted materials, but to supplement them in a high-quality and interesting way.

Yes, but not “opinions”, but information from experts and eyewitness accounts - that’s why I love this site. But all this happens only under articles about military equipment and military history, if the article does not affect the Stalinists. The articles about modern politics are 100% garbage. And mate or semi-mate: liberal - liberal, etc. And these articles themselves usually represent the opinions of private and anonymous people and are uninteresting garbage, or repeat information from other sites and media, i.e. Essentially they are also garbage. Why does this site include articles about current politics? It doesn't even live up to its name.
bergberg

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16 June 2014 19: 30

The question is, of course, posed correctly, but as our President VVPutin said, “just comrades, don’t make everything absurd and prohibit and prevent it from happening.” If the Moderator believes that he has the right to change the Russian language and Russian speech. Let him then officially ban by law the dictionaries of Dahl and Ozhegov and cross out the classics of Russian literature! Let's go far, comrades! Then let the moderator himself compile a correct dictionary, like in the film "Gentlemen of Fortune" And let him give at least one definition in Russian: "the most, the most, the most, the most vile killer of women and children" Give an honest definition and a complete dictionary words that the great Russian classics and dictionary compilers did not use!
1. Kisel
  
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  17 June 2014 04: 29
  
  In general, it is a well-known fact
  What do you and I have ahead of us?
  Don't push it to the limit
  Don't push it to the limit.
  – Vadim Kukushkin
Tambov Wolf

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16 June 2014 19: 31

It seems that everything was told to us correctly, but on the other hand everything looks different. The fifth column and the “bad people” sitting over the hill, as they want, pour all sorts of “bad” words on the country, the President, our people. So, I owe them Wagging your finger, it’s supposedly not good, is that. Isn’t it easier to call these “bad people” and their deeds as they really are. For example, a bastard, a brute, etc. It turns out without swearing, but decently.
Pushkar

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16 June 2014 19: 31

Agree. You can do just fine without swearing.
1. bergberg
  
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  16 June 2014 19: 38
  
  But then you get a violation of “insult” which is also not welcome! And rightly so, “bad, very bad bandit!”
max73

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16 June 2014 19: 37

I strongly doubt that the admins will listen to my opinion, because more than once this (opinion) has been ignored. but I asked for little - only about the work of the forum. this did not happen within a year. I think that in the near future this will not happen.... I don’t see the point in swearing, but the site (more precisely, the discussions) were simply drowned in the “urya-swamp” .... it’s unfortunate.. .
badger1974

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16 June 2014 19: 41

I agree without any profanity. But what about normative psychometric? Are they making fun of her too? and it’s not in the agreements, although this concerns politics, in technical terms there’s almost no such thing, but politics, no, you can’t remove it, what can you do, military commanders, you have a weapon in your hands (a wish)
ODERVIT

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16 June 2014 20: 05

Of course, non-standard language is not acceptable, this is obvious. However, it is not clear why many of the words used are moderated, for example those denoting North Americans or a word consonant with the work of the classic of Russian literature Fyodor Mikhailovich. Maybe you should still be flexible and understanding, depending on the text. After all, sometimes emotions just overwhelm. But in general, I agree, I join and undertake to use the standard native language.
sla7a

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16 June 2014 20: 08

Article 18 pluses! I fully support the admins regarding “cleanliness” - indeed, there has been a noticeable increase in profanity. And the phrase about bears is, in my opinion, the most. Let anyone who wants to consider us barbarians - consider us! Who cares about someone else's opinion? I quarreled with all my friends in Odessa on 13 - and what’s most interesting - again - they’ll call! Sami! Apparently they listen and don’t believe, and when proposals happen, like masochists they want to hear unpleasant forecasts again. (Please do not criticize too much - It’s boiling.....X.
Curb

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16 June 2014 20: 11

When I first came to this site two years ago, I was amazed at the level of comments!
I got the impression that I had found myself in a fairy-tale world, where there were no usual Internet snitches and evil trolls, and the interlocutors seemed to be gentlemen having a quiet conversation over a cup of tea. Even when discussing controversial issues, comments remained within the bounds of decency and, importantly, mutual respect. Honestly, it was a breath of fresh air.

Now the situation in the country is tense, it is difficult to remain calm and balanced when this is happening to your people. Hence, I think, the increased “fervor” in the comments.

For me personally, Topwar is a particularly valuable resource not only for its articles, but also for its comments.
I sincerely wish this site prosperity and readers who respect themselves and each other!
Andriuha077

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16 June 2014 20: 30

Let's not forget: everyday swearing is a faithful companion of latent homosexuality.

Together we stop poking our interlocutors with our intimate organs!
samoletil18

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16 June 2014 20: 46

I'm sitting on the couch. I'm watching the World Cup. I read the article earlier. And how to express your attitude to what is happening? The Serbian referee shows his loyalty to Frau Merkel, who is present at the Germany-Portugal match! Let the Germans earn the goals themselves, they already have a strong team.
1. Rurikovich
  
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  16 June 2014 22: 58
  
  Come on, the Germans would have rolled Ronaldo and K into pancakes anyway. But only with the Portuguese at full strength would they not have stopped at the number “4”, and so they reluctantly played for time. In the games of other teams and in the minority it would be possible to win back, but not with the Germans
GUSAR

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16 June 2014 21: 01

Let's respect the Russian language and each other too!
andr327

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16 June 2014 21: 03

Oh, how I want to speak Russian, like a human being, but when you read about Taburetkin and his battalion, all the words disappear somewhere (what about assault), even crests or dill don’t cause such a reaction, they even have stupid, dangerous beliefs . What to do with those - how to express your attitude, otherwise no matter how hard I try, I only get 0,000314% of complete indignation and indignation!
combat66

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16 June 2014 21: 26

Emotions.....Oh checkmate! “... how much in this sound / merged for the Russian heart! / How much echoed in it!”
I repent, sometimes I sin. My word, I’ll correct myself. Respect to the review!
tupolev-95

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16 June 2014 21: 28

A truthful and apt comment has a much greater effect than three-story swearing with the splashing of sewage. Do not take the example of the “censor”.
boozer

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16 June 2014 21: 38

Accepted and fully supported! I don’t cross the line of foul. Balancing
ed65b

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16 June 2014 21: 42

sometimes without the Russian and powerful, there is no way to express, for example, a feeling of extreme indignation. Although I agree in principle. Well, probably the moderators should temporarily include such expressions as moska.l and x.o.h.ol. Since at this stage they are simply necessary for quoting.
ed65b

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16 June 2014 21: 43

sometimes without the Russian and powerful, there is no way to express, for example, a feeling of extreme indignation. Although I agree in principle. Well, probably the moderators should temporarily include such expressions as moska.l and x.o.h.ol. Since at this stage they are simply necessary for quoting.
siberalt

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16 June 2014 21: 46

I don’t need a lot of “abstruse” stuff. We make do with our own. But I would like to read the name of the author of the article in Russian. Somehow our “Cheburashka” will “sound” differently in English spelling.
The comment was deleted.
Jet

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16 June 2014 22: 18

Once again I will write what you deleted))))): Jet Today, 16:57 | About the rules of "Military Review". Address to visitors
Dear moderator, tell me then, for what purpose are you deleting absolutely correct comments that, in your opinion, do not correspond to the general policy of the Russian Federation and your site in particular, but leaving those in which non-Russian citizens are called all sorts of names, namely chumps, ami, paddling pools, I already I’m silent about Ukrainian fascists and so on?! Moreover, this practice occurs in almost every article.
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Lyuba1965_01

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16 June 2014 23: 20

I completely agree with the article.
But several questions arise.
1.Why you can’t use Old Russian words
After all, the word “” has its origins in ancient Rus'. - the word comes from the Old Russian verb blyaditi, which meant “to deceive, to talk idle talk” and went back to the Proto-Indo-European bhla - “to blow” (hence, for example, the English bladder - “bubble” and “idle talk”, and the famous French bla-bla-bla - " empty chatter"). And here’s what all guardians of the purity of the Russian language simply need to know: until the XNUMXth century. the word was used in literature without any restrictions!
2. With the word "" it's not so simple either.
Her - Universal and earthly harmony - initial letter image in the ABC of the ancient Slavs-Aryans

Many more examples can be given. So not everything is so simple and unambiguous.
Rurikovich

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16 June 2014 23: 27

Mostly I agree. Profanity has become an unpleasant addition to the Internet in general. so this is a problem not only for this site, but also for many others.
I will express my personal point of view, which may not coincide with the opinions of others, including the moderators. I registered on the site, in principle, with the goal of learning something new in the field of weapons and military science. What does the name of the site say? But lately I have noticed with regret that questions of armament are no longer of much interest to site visitors. What does the number of comments on articles of this kind indicate? There are some exceptions when, in the wake of patriotism, approval for the adoption of certain models goes beyond the scope of discussion of the model itself. The site has become TOO politicized in recent months. Yes, there are problems in Ukraine, and people are dying. But the bias towards increasing materials on this topic has led to an increase in the number of visitors at the expense of quality. That’s why imbeciles appear underage, who constantly “poke” and provoke more adequate people. They can be easily identified by the style of speech and the number of mistakes. Therefore, if someone wants to communicate with adequate people about articles corresponding to the name of the site, they need to work hard to find them.
Therefore, in my personal opinion, adjust the range of your articles so that they correspond to a truly military review. Then there will be less rudeness and indecency. After all, the culture of education has fallen greatly in recent years, and if I and people like me still have the basics of Soviet education, when in my head there are theses about respect not only for elders, but for people in general, then today’s youth in general I've gone off the rails, and I shouldn't be surprised at the increase in abuse and rudeness on the site.
With respect to the management, Andrey Nikolaevich
P.S. And sometimes you really want to call what is happening in the world in your own words, with the help of the Great and Mighty...
Serg93

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17 June 2014 01: 17

Quote: Corsair
Quote: Tartary
Stopudov will remove and ban in addition ...
pp
Well, I don’t know, I don’t know ...
With me, in the end he acted quite correctly, here is the truth of the comment "suffered" ...

And by the way, since the conversation has gone in some way about the site, I would like to inquire, SUCH "PICTURE" as "502 ERROR", periodically (yesterday and today)" occurs "with me alone?

The best option is to call them radishes!!!)))) and there are no questions about censorship!!)))
ratnik

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17 June 2014 01: 27

sorry if something...is wrong
)))
Lukich

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17 June 2014 01: 29

The article is of course correct. The cleanliness of the site must be protected. but the moderators also need to understand us. It’s not because of lack of culture that the swearing slips through, emotions overwhelm. although of course this is not an excuse, but some mitigation of punishment)
old man 72

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17 June 2014 03: 34

Yes, I agree with YOU on this. I only disagree with the fact that YOU do not allow + or - comments from one person more than once, citing bias. This is not bias, but agreement or disagreement with this comment. This is my opinion and I think that many will agree with me. Sincerely, Vladimir.
Tartarian

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17 June 2014 05: 36

Dear moderators (just in case, this is not an insult, but an abbreviation), you take on the functions of judges, as well as analysts of the Russian language! What is swearing - and what is not, swearing is not acceptable - I absolutely agree - but sometimes to emphasize the emotional coloring - certain expressions are used - which are not swearing - and that's ALL! - but I see that, due to your fantasies, you pull them under the mat - and send a warning (by the way, I’m already fed up with every pledge - I get a happy message - a warning has been sent to YOU! - Please be careful with this topic..
Dezinto

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17 June 2014 05: 38

Everything will be fine!
Papania

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17 June 2014 08: 47

Well, yes, I went to the “censor” and what, I communicated without swearing, which I try to do here, but I was quickly banned. As I understand it, the moderators allow only those who praise “nenko dill”, and our full-blown liberals and shitcrats. I'm tired of such swearing. If anyone is interested, come in and chat. My opinion is that no one there is trying to understand you, adhering to the official position of the oligarchic-fascist government in Kyiv.
Papania

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17 June 2014 08: 47

Well, yes, I went to the “censor” and what, I communicated without swearing, which I try to do here, but I was quickly banned. As I understand it, the moderators allow only those who praise “nenko dill”, and our full-blown liberals and shitcrats. I'm tired of such swearing. If anyone is interested, come in and chat. My opinion is that no one there is trying to understand you, adhering to the official position of the oligarchic-fascist government in Kyiv.
GP

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17 June 2014 12: 01

IMHO, of course, but politics is a dense forest for the common man, and as a result is perceived at the emotional level, which leads to corresponding reflection in reviews. Well-known events of recent times have led to a large number of political articles, which are simply easier to comment on emotionally, using obscenities. In technical articles, the “quality” of comments has not changed.
And to the topic, site administrators have every right to independently and without regard to compile a list of ban words.
Brother

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17 June 2014 12: 36

Be polite! And everything will be about youCrimeasure!

Remember! The city takes POLITENESS!
Nikich

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17 June 2014 12: 56

Quote: GP
IMHO, of course, but politics is a dense forest for the common man, and as a result is perceived at the emotional level, which leads to corresponding reflection in reviews. Well-known events of recent times have led to a large number of political articles, which are simply easier to comment on emotionally, using obscenities. In technical articles, the “quality” of comments has not changed.
And to the topic, site administrators have every right to independently and without regard to compile a list of ban words.

Emotionally, of course, it’s easier, but we’re not on the street with friends. We must respect each other and our great language, and not disgrace ourselves with obscenities. If it’s really difficult, then you can use a strong word, but without swearing.
1. Kisel
  
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  18 June 2014 05: 38
  
  Quote: Nikich
  We're not on the street with friends
  - We are on the Internet Nikich We can be with friends or on the street. But our website is international...
  Quote: Nikich
  disgrace yourself with obscenities
  - It's a personal matter. But it’s a shame for the country.
  Quote: Nikich
  strong word
  - Synonyms: indecent expression, obscenism, swearing.
voyaka uh

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19 June 2014 21: 43

It's not just about swearing.
Everyone here gets shoulder straps. Officers, as it were.
A true officer always - ALWAYS - respects the enemy officer. Even if in a minute you have to
kill him according to the oath taken.
“Enemy officer” - in this case, an opponent with whom you ideologically disagree.