What ends the Ukrainian crisis ("The Washington Post", USA)

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All public discussions about Ukraine today are a sheer confrontation. But do we know where we are going? During my life, I saw four wars that started with great enthusiasm and popular support, and which we then did not know how to end, leaving one of these three wars unilaterally. The test for a politician is not how it begins, but how it ends.

Too often portrayed as the Ukrainian question Showdown: Ukraine will go to the west or east. But if Ukraine wants to survive and thrive, it must not be turned into an outpost of one party against another. It should be a bridge between them.

Russia should recognize that attempts to turn Ukraine into a satellite state and thereby move again Russian borders doom her to repeat the self-fulfilling cycle of reciprocal measures pressure in relations with Europe and the United States.

The West must understand that for Russia Ukraine will never become an ordinary foreign state. Russian story began with Kievan Rus. From there came Russian Orthodoxy. Ukraine was part of Russia for centuries, but even before that, their history was closely intertwined. The most important battles for the freedom of Russia, beginning with the battle of Poltava 1709, took place on Ukrainian soil. The Black Sea Fleet, through which Russia projects power into the Mediterranean, is based on a long-term lease agreement in the Crimean city of Sevastopol. Even such famous dissidents as Alexander Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky insisted that Ukraine is an integral part of Russian history, and of Russia itself.

The European Union must recognize that the slowness of its bureaucracy and the subordination of the strategic element of domestic policy in the negotiations on Ukraine’s relations with Europe have led to the negotiation process becoming a crisis. Foreign policy is the art of prioritization.

The decisive element is the Ukrainians themselves. They live in a country with a complex history and multilingual composition. The western part of Ukraine was annexed to the Soviet Union in 1939, when Stalin and Hitler shared trophies. The Crimea, which consists of Russians on 60 percent, became part of Ukraine only in 1954, when a Ukrainian by birth Nikita Khrushchev awarded this republic in honor of the 300 anniversary of the Russian treaty with the Cossacks. The west of the country is mainly Catholic; The east overwhelmingly professes Russian Orthodoxy. The West speaks Ukrainian; The east speaks mainly Russian. Any attempt by one part of Ukraine to dominate another, which has become a pattern, will eventually lead to a civil war or a split in the country. If we consider Ukraine as a component of the confrontation between the East and the West, then any prospects for creating an international system of cooperation within Russia and the West - and especially Russia and Europe - will be destroyed for decades.

Ukraine is independent only 23 year. Before that, it had been under someone's, but always foreign, power since the 14-th century. Not surprisingly, its leaders have not learned the art of compromise, and even less have mastered the skills of seeing the historical perspective. The policy of Ukraine after gaining independence clearly shows that the root of the problem lies in the attempts of Ukrainian politicians to impose their will on an unruly and persistent part of the country. First, one faction does this, and then another. This is the essence of the conflict between Viktor Yanukovich and his main political rival, Yulia Tymoshenko. They represent the two wings of Ukraine and do not want to share power. A wise US policy towards Ukraine should include seeking opportunities for cooperation between the two parts of the country. We must strive to reconcile the factions, and not to dominate one of them.

But Russia and the West, and most importantly - all the numerous Ukrainian factions - do not follow this principle. Each side only aggravates the situation. Russia will not be able to impose a military solution without self-isolation, and this will happen at a time when its extended borders are in an unreliable state. For the West, demonizing Vladimir Putin is not politics; it is an excuse for not having one.

Putin must come to an understanding that, despite all his complaints and complaints, the policy of military pressure will lead only to the beginning of a new cold war. The United States, for its part, should not treat Russia as a country that has strayed from the right path, which must patiently learn the rules of conduct set by Washington. Putin is a serious strategist on the field of Russian history. Understanding American values ​​and psychology is not its strongest feature. And understanding of Russian history and psychology has never been a strong feature of American political leaders.

Leaders from all sides must return to the analysis of the results and consequences, instead of competing in the posturing. Here are my views on the outcome of corresponding values ​​and security interests of all parties:

1. Ukraine should have the right to freely choose their economic and political ties, including with Europe.

2. Ukraine should not join NATO. I stuck to this position seven years ago, when I first had this question.

3. Ukraine should have every opportunity to create a government corresponding expressed will of the people. Wise Ukrainian leaders in this case will give preference to the policy of reconciliation of different parts of the country. Internationally, they should adopt a policy that is comparable with the policy of Finland. This country leaves no doubt of its full independence and cooperate with the West in most areas, but at the same time carefully avoids political hostility towards Russia.

4. According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea. But relations of Crimea with Ukraine can be made more calm. For these purposes, Russia must recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea. Ukraine should expand Crimean autonomy in the elections in the presence of foreign observers. This process should include the removal of any omissions and uncertainties regarding the status of the Black Sea. fleet in the Sevastopol.

These are principles, not prescriptions. Familiar with this region people know that some of them will fall not to the liking of one side or another. But it is more important than absolute satisfaction and dissatisfaction balanced. If not found a solution based on these or similar elements, the slide toward confrontation accelerate. Time for such a decision will come soon enough.
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  1. I_VOIN_I
    0
    8 March 2014 21: 55
    Who knows what is happening in Odessa, Kharkov, Donetsk? The lack of news scares me.
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 22: 02
      Quote: I_VOIN_I
      Who knows what is happening in Odessa, Kharkov, Donetsk? The lack of news scares me.

      Lack of news is sometimes pleasing

      http://www.velton.ua/ru/webcams/
      1. I_VOIN_I
        +1
        8 March 2014 23: 57
        Thanks, cool stuff
  2. vitos69
    0
    8 March 2014 22: 10
    Quote: GSH-18
    This brave guy is truly brilliant with ideas.

    The main thing is that we don’t have such people laughing
  3. 0
    8 March 2014 22: 16
    Quote: Oleg147741
    Quote: Siberian19
    forget who he is

    after the words: "it must not turn into an outpost of one side against the other. It must become a bridge between them." I didn't read further. I am Ukrainian, but I believe that a separate state of Ukraine does not exist! This is one country and we are taught from childhood about Ukraine, Belarus, Tatarstan, Chechnya, etc. These are the seeds for separatism. People perceive this with their mother's milk and believe that the country can potentially be divided. In fact, this is an indirect suggestion of a non-existent problem.

    Absolutely agree!
    There was only 1 extra piece - Transcarpathia.
  4. 0
    8 March 2014 22: 20
    German channel "about peaceful demonstrators":
    http://www.shturmnovosti.info/content/pro-mirnyh-demonstrantov-material-nemeckog

    o-telekanala-klagemauertv.html . something is cutting the link..., the word nemeckogo needs to be connected.
  5. +4
    8 March 2014 22: 22
    WE ARE A POWERFUL IRON FIST,
    GLORY OF RUSSIA, GLORY,
    SHAKE AND SAVE YOURSELF, ENEMY
    IF WE ARE ATTACKED,
    YOU WILL WASH YOURSELF IN YOUR BLOOD,
    YOU WILL ALL DIE A TERRIBLE DEATH,
    RUSSIA, GET UP SOON!!! soldier
  6. +2
    8 March 2014 22: 40
    where it is known, but whose is in question? winked

    Donetsk region
    In the Artemovsky district, eyewitnesses recorded the movement of self-propelled firing installations of the Buk anti-aircraft missile system http://bahmut.com.ua/news/society/1468-buk.html

    Anti-aircraft missile systems in Kramatorsk http://hi.dn.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44216&catid=60&Item
    id = 157
  7. cognitive
    +2
    8 March 2014 22: 40
    CALL OF THE KIND
    RUS SLAVYANIN
    You are an integral part of the ROD embodied on this earth in the world of REVENUE

    TO BE or NOT TO BE FOR YOUR KIND
    THIS HOUR IS BEING DECIDED ON THE BORDER OF THE NATIVE EARTH
    Nonhuman BEASTS in human form
    They planned to stop the brothers' hearts forever
    LIFE NEAR THE KRAINA

    In thousand-year plans of solution
    RUSSIAN QUESTION
    UKRAINE
    THE LAST FRONTIER
    next stop YOUR HOME

    They sang to you long and sweetly
    if only you were sleeping
    WAKE UP

    Or you'll never wake up again
    1. I_VOIN_I
      +1
      9 March 2014 00: 00
      Sage? How do the witches feel about the nationalists?
      1. cognitive
        +3
        9 March 2014 03: 02
        Hello I_VOIN_I!
        I am only at the beginning of comprehending the deep knowledge of our ancestors. So the road to a truly knowledgeable person is long and interesting.
        Anyone with the Will and Intention (their powerful Desire) can take this path of conscious existence and understand who they are and why they appeared in this world.
        I myself was born in the Kirghiz SSR. My grandfather was evacuated during the war
        from Sumy region Ukrainian SSR. After school he entered and graduated from the Higher Military School. Resigned from service as part of the regular staff. There was an opportunity to stay, but the prospect of becoming dull and sleeping in the Far Eastern region
        didn’t seduce.
        I swore allegiance to the people of the USSR, served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. According to my passport, I am Ukrainian, I have never been to Ukraine. I live in the Moscow region after the forced relocation of my whole family
        from Kyrgyzstan.
        The attitude towards nationalism is positive. A nationalist is a person who loves, knows and, to the best of his ability, understands the World of his ancestors. It goes without saying that such a person will glorify and defend the right of his nation to a peaceful, creative life in the face of hostile foreign ethnic formations that threaten his roots. Imagine a large family -What is your attitude towards the men of the family who do not want to protect her?
        But the attitude towards the Nazis is strictly negative. Inhuman Nazis imagine themselves to be the most correct people, without having any compelling reasons or justifications for this. Due to the lack of logical arguments for their superiority, they use “available arguments” of outright lies, psychophysical zombification, physical destruction.. .
      2. cognitive
        0
        9 March 2014 03: 23
        Quote: cognitive
        Hello I_VOIN_I!
        I am only at the beginning of comprehending the deep knowledge of our ancestors. So the road to a truly knowledgeable person is long and interesting.
        Anyone with the Will and Intention (their powerful Desire) can take this path of conscious existence and understand who they are and why they appeared in this world.
        I myself was born in the Kirghiz SSR. My grandfather was evacuated during the war
        from Sumy region Ukrainian SSR. After school he entered and graduated from the Higher Military School. Resigned from service as part of the regular staff. There was an opportunity to stay, but the prospect of becoming dull and sleeping in the Far Eastern region
        didn’t seduce.
        I swore allegiance to the people of the USSR, served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. According to my passport, I am Ukrainian, I have never been to Ukraine. I live in the Moscow region after the forced relocation of my whole family
        from Kyrgyzstan.
        The attitude towards nationalism is positive. A nationalist is a person who loves, knows and, to the best of his ability, understands the World of his ancestors. It goes without saying that such a person will glorify and defend the right of his nation to a peaceful, creative life in the face of hostile foreign ethnic formations that threaten his roots. Imagine a large family -What is your attitude towards the men of the family who do not want to protect her?
        But the attitude towards the Nazis is strictly negative. Inhuman Nazis imagine themselves to be the most correct people, without having any compelling reasons or justifications for this. Due to the lack of logical arguments for their superiority, they use “available arguments” of outright lies, psychophysical zombification, physical destruction.. .
  8. cognitive
    +1
    8 March 2014 22: 41
    RUSSIAN is a person born in a different culture but in the process of self-development
    taking responsibility for what is happening
    in your life on YOURSELF
    through awareness and full acceptance
    Language of Worldview of the Rhythm of Existence of the Slavs
    Reborn into a full-fledged inhabitant
    universe called RUSSIAN WORLD
    or KON (CIRCLE) ROD

    Slav your POWER is in TRUTH
    POSSESSING AND GLORIFYING THE TRUTH
    You become ORTHODOX
    You are multiplying the number of Russians
    You pour POWER into your family
    Well, for jackals, the male defenders of the Clan have one LAW:
    Hit on the cheek Cut off your hand whoever hits you hits your family
    WAKE UP
    Through GOOD TRUTH LOVE
    CREATE A MIGHTY WORLD
    And there will be a need for it
    crush the jackals
    1. cognitive
      +2
      9 March 2014 03: 45
      Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians are a single RACE. This is a single RACE, which is confirmed genetically and anthropologically. This is confirmed by similar fairy tales, legends, songs, patterns, rituals, clothing...
      This is confirmed by a single attitude to the world, a single world order. We are all Slavs, those who glorify the RIGHT, the unified laws of the universe that are necessary for the development and prosperity of meaningful life on Earth.
      At Kraintsy-Rus, living on the edge of the earth, RUS and the first to stand in the way of Western hordes of predators to defend the Russian World.
      Something like that.
      1. cognitive
        0
        9 March 2014 04: 12
        "Learn the meaning of the Words
        And you will deliver the Light
        From half of the Delusions"
        Pushkin, Alexander Sergeyevich
  9. +8
    8 March 2014 22: 42
    Hello Dear forum users.
    Today I managed to communicate with my aunt on my grandfather’s side who lives in Kyiv.
    I'm in awe. To what extent are we losing the information war? In her opinion, the people on the Maidan: people came out against the corrupt government. “Oh, well, I didn’t go, but our friends did. The snipers who shot the children on the Maidan were Berkut officers, don’t tell me the tales of your television. Crimea is Ukrainian, why are you and your Putin climbing there, you just want to tear off a piece of Ukraine. There are oligarchs from the naval "They want to take away our land with Russian infantry. The elected ministers will be controlled by the Maidan and are afraid to take bribes and we will live much better."
    And this is a man from Kyiv himself and not at all 20 years old. You and I, brothers, went to visit each other, we don’t have fascists. And the most interesting thing was that they spoke Russian, and when asked how we would continue to talk, she said that you were learning Ukrainian because we were not allowed to speak Russian and this was already the norm for her. Something like this.
    I have been waiting for this conversation for a long time and have not written my opinion on the situation in Ukraine. Still in shock.
    1. +2
      8 March 2014 22: 49
      Yeah......landed))))))) what
    2. -1
      9 March 2014 04: 28
      There are no words, only expressions... Oh-oh!
      And the main thing is that it is technically impossible to do anything until we get closer than 50 km to their TV receivers. It’s not like throwing leaflets from satellites, they won’t fall from there, but from airplanes, they’ll say they’re violating the border and all that. The only thing was that it was necessary to threaten the owners of the channels with something (everyone has their own skeleton in their closet), but now it’s too late, it was necessary earlier.
  10. kelevra
    +2
    8 March 2014 22: 48
    The author of the article seems to be living in a friend’s world of his own invention! Sitting in the USA, at such a distance from the center of earthly life, everything seems to take a very long time and is difficult for them to reach.
  11. Backfire
    -25
    8 March 2014 22: 59
    President Barack Obama issued an order on March 6 “to block the property of certain individuals contributing to the situation in Ukraine.” From this date, the American President, acting on the basis of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, vested the US Administration the right to impose property and visa sanctions against individuals and legal entities who “assumed power in the Crimean region without the permission of the Ukrainian government.”

    “The US administration insured itself against possible lawsuits by declaring in paragraph 10 of the order that the imposed sanctions do not provide grounds for legal entities and individuals to challenge them in court or administrative proceedings. The President of the United States, in essence, authorized the expropriation of the property of foreign individuals and organizations out of court.”

    “The executive order on Ukraine is in many ways unprecedented”

    But these are all trifles compared to what The Kremlin has opened Pandora's box:
    One of the “reasons” for bringing “little green men” into Crimea (let me remind you that Putin publicly renounced Russian soldiers, saying that there was no Russian army there) was, I quote "Protection of the Russian-speaking population"

    This is a complete scribe, as the Chukchi said after examining the traps.
    The world history of diplomacy has never known such insanity. Now, China can send troops to... and anywhere, the Chinese, they are everywhere, but first of all, where??? That's right, dear radio listeners - to Siberia. Spain can invade almost 90% of Latin American countries. But Putin gave the coolest chance to the USA and Great Britain: English speakers - they are EVERYWHERE!! You have few newspapers and TV news in English - that’s it, you are violating the rights of English speakers and “Tomahawks” and “Invisibles” are already coming to you.

    Putin laid under the territorial integrity of Russia not only a mine, but also a nuclear landmine, on which I congratulate you.
    And don’t blah blah blah blah blah about the “nuclear button” - no one pressed it when the USSR collapsed, no one will press it when the maddened Botox dwarf is pulled out of some super-deep bunker near Yamantau.
    1. +4
      9 March 2014 00: 02
      Another troll. What can I talk to you about - but nothing.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. +2
      9 March 2014 00: 07
      And my opinion about values
      USA is like that am
    4. Com T-64a
      0
      12 March 2014 20: 14
      Thank you /,, cap, you opened my eyes!!! .!. you!
  12. cognitive
    +1
    8 March 2014 23: 01
    Brothers! Health and pure thoughts to everyone!
    I’ve been looking at the site for a long time, but in recent days I’ve been getting almost all the objective data about what’s happening only from this resource.
    To be honest, I couldn’t imagine such a turn of events even in my wildest dreams. I chastised those in power as best I could. And then a powerful team, with the full support of the very top, launches a special operation that has no analogues. An action unlike anything from the new era. ..
    I ask for some practical advice:
    1 Is it possible to write and post your thoughts as an article?
    2 How to place 3-color pages of Word A-4 in comments
    1. VADEL
      0
      9 March 2014 02: 35
      I can recommend the following:
      -Read the site rules;
      -Contact the Administration of the President of the site (if clause 1 is not clear);
      -You shouldn’t go to the Hague court; it won’t help. hi
  13. mihasik
    +3
    8 March 2014 23: 07
    The author has one question: What is the United States doing in Ukraine and why?) Maybe Russia needs to doubt the freedom of the people and democracy of Mexico and Texas and a number of other states that are part of the United States? Maybe it’s worth supporting aggressive and separatist forces with a nationalist bent there for the victory of democracy in these regions? So that democracy that suits Russia would finally come to these regions?! Accept these regions into the CSTO. And then give the United States a chance to participate in the “aspirations” of the people, but at the same time it MUST FULFILL THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS...!
  14. 0
    8 March 2014 23: 41
    The creation of the Ukrainian Republic as part of the Russian Federation (without Galicia, of course!).
  15. -1
    8 March 2014 23: 54
    The invasion of Crimea is being prepared for March 10th. Pass it on
    Information with a map on Delyagin’s website
    http://delyagin.ru/articles/74562-ukraina-podchinyaetsya-evronatcistam-i-gotovit
    sya-nachat-vojnu-s-rossiej.html
  16. 0
    8 March 2014 23: 57
    I read this a few days ago. And now it's outdated. Just nothing new.
  17. w2000
    +1
    9 March 2014 00: 16
    How could the Ukrainian crisis end? Only by advancing our troops to Transcarpathia with the systematic destruction of the entire Bandera population. And then depending on the situation: a dash to the English Channel with a visit to the sights of Warsaw, Berlin and Paris is also possible.
  18. Slike80
    0
    9 March 2014 00: 19
    Almost all the organizers and leaders of the pro-Russian movement were caught or intimidated, some, like Markov in Odessa, turned out to be traitors... Complete information blockade... all the media were bought... in general, a feeling of complete defeat and hopelessness, Russia is silent, and the people are tired of constant ineffective rallies and processions.. Alas, it looks like this is the end ((..
    1. +3
      9 March 2014 00: 36
      And I already wrote.
      Quit your job, go out EVERYTHING and solve the problem in 1 day!
      You won’t need a job if you don’t crush the fascists!
    2. 0
      9 March 2014 00: 36
      And I already wrote.
      Quit your job, go out EVERYTHING and solve the problem in 1 day!
      You won’t need a job if you don’t crush the fascists!
    3. 0
      9 March 2014 04: 53
      And the Maidanists themselves showed how it should be, if they don’t listen peacefully, take television first, if you can’t take or hold it, destroy the equipment, at least stop the flow of Bandera propaganda.
      They will not give up power peacefully.
  19. +2
    9 March 2014 00: 38
    Oath of the SS division "Galicia"
    The oath of the members of the SS division "Galicia", like that of other SS volunteer units, was somewhat different from the "original" oath of the SS troops."



    “I swear this holy oath before God,
    that in the fight against Bolshevism I will unquestioningly obey the supreme leader of the German troops
    Adolf Hitler,
    and I want, like a brave soldier, to devote my life to fulfilling this oath.”


    SS Division "Galicia". History of Ukrainian shame!

    The naive and ridiculous justifications for the crimes of Ukrainian nationalists are disgusting! Today, even a child knows that absolutely the entire SS was convicted in Nuremberg as a criminal organization. The specific crimes of the division in the destruction of Polish and Ukrainian villages are also known. There are also known attempts to glorify the SS during all 5 years of the Yushchenko regime. There are also known UN decisions banning propaganda and glorification of SS crimes. But it is still possible to hire corrupt liberal journalists to try to justify the regime.

    http://joker7770270.livejournal.com/3378.html
  20. +8
    9 March 2014 00: 46
    Quote: Backfire
    One of the “grounds” for bringing “little green men” into Crimea (let me remind you that Putin publicly renounced Russian soldiers, saying that there was no Russian army there) was, I quote, “Protection of the Russian-speaking population”


    You were simply incorrectly informed.... HE said - I quote - we did not send Russian troops there..... Because they have been there for hundreds of years, and according to the agreement, Russia can keep 25 soldiers there at 000 facilities belonging to the Black Sea Fleet. The facilities are located throughout Crimea. Your post is simply due to lack of information and that’s all. Or rather, from misinformation.

    Quote: Backfire
    the distraught ... dwarf will be pulled out of some super-deep bunker under Yamantau.


    Understand correctly - with your elephantine behavior (you - because your flag is the USA) you have made it so that people who deeply do not like Putin (to put it mildly) will now vote for him with both hands.... And we are over what you write We won't even laugh. I'm tired... there were no such lies as now, not only during the operation in 2008, but even in the department of Dr. Goebbels. there they always carefully prepared disinformation of the population, throwing rumors and so on... Today's followers make throws without even bothering to connect them logically, which indicates a specific panic...

    People who have always consistently opposed Putin have now rallied around the idea that he taught them - we don’t give a damn about the opinion of the West after FEBRUARY 21, because the West has crossed all boundaries of what is permitted in the information war.
    We need your sanctions in one place, because not a single official of the Russian Federation has accounts abroad. And we are well prepared for such moves.

    All this will end with Russia leaving the dollar segment. You can jump around with tambourines behind the Big Puddle as much as you like - Europe will not agree to confrontation with Russia, which is already visible to the naked eye.. And we don’t even care about Canada’s attempts..... New Zealand? Who is this anyway and where?
    1. DMB-78
      +2
      9 March 2014 02: 32
      Quote: Santor
      New Zealand? Who is this anyway and where?

      old joke from the times of the USSR. the general bursts into the command post of the Strategic Missile Forces - who pressed the green button????!!!!! silence. - who pressed the green button?????!!!!!!. silence. - I’m asking for the last time, who pressed???!!!!. silence. - well, fuck off with her and Zealand
  21. Pesnyadv
    +1
    9 March 2014 00: 47
    Quote: NIKAVIZ
    I’ll only add ... That the weapons of mass destruction (ANY) were used without thinking .. And speak with them in the language of diplomacy ... It’s only to dig a grave deeper. Only until they get FULL, UNDERSTAND.


    Increasingly, I come to the conclusion that a simple war with the United States plays into the hands of thieves and business scammers.
    WE - the ordinary people of Russia and the USA - will die.
    Only when the political system changes in the USA can we count on softening relations.
    The rivalry between the United States and Russia will remain, but the degree of intensity will decrease at times !!!

    Conclusion - Russia in the USA to help the forces that want to throw off the yoke of scammers and thieves. Otherwise, the victory of peace over war will not be real and final.
    Let it be "a peaceful transition, let it be a revolution ...
    But the current US government is the power of thieves, scammers, CRIMINALS !!!
    The whole galaxy of US presidents and their entourage should sit in the dock before the court of WORLD citizens.
  22. +1
    9 March 2014 00: 55
    Somehow these old bastards (he and Brzezinski) will not leave this sad world. Probably the Gods don't need this.
  23. +1
    9 March 2014 00: 56
    Quote: PesnyaDV
    Quote: NIKAVIZ
    I’ll only add ... That the weapons of mass destruction (ANY) were used without thinking .. And speak with them in the language of diplomacy ... It’s only to dig a grave deeper. Only until they get FULL, UNDERSTAND.


    Increasingly, I come to the conclusion that a simple war with the United States plays into the hands of thieves and business scammers.
    WE - the ordinary people of Russia and the USA - will die.
    Only when the political system changes in the USA can we count on softening relations.
    The rivalry between the United States and Russia will remain, but the degree of intensity will decrease at times !!!

    Conclusion - Russia in the USA to help the forces that want to throw off the yoke of scammers and thieves. Otherwise, the victory of peace over war will not be real and final.
    Let it be "a peaceful transition, let it be a revolution ...
    But the current US government is the power of thieves, scammers, CRIMINALS !!!
    The whole galaxy of US presidents and their entourage should sit in the dock before the court of WORLD citizens.

    You are talking nonsense!
    The people of the United States will never throw off their thieves.
    The US government debt is > 200% of GDP - this means that if they give their last panties to the whole world, and then again earn money for the panties and houses and factories, and then again give them to the world. Then they will repay the debt.
    How can people accustomed to living in luxury do this!?
    No! They would rather support their thieves, who feed them.
    The mattress thieves fleeced their population during their great depression.
    Then they realized that the scale of theft had to be expanded, otherwise it would be screwed.
    Now they rob the whole world and at the same time feed their herd so that they protect the thieves’ values!
  24. +1
    9 March 2014 00: 56
    Quote: sazhka4
    Seems like a smart guy. But the same rake doesn’t teach you anything.

    And where were you, smart man, with your advice before? And would they listen to you?
    If this trio had not immediately launched an attack on the Russian language, had dissociated itself from the militants, had agreed to federalization, and even... Yes... Then they would not have been themselves. And why would there be a fence around the garden?
    And by the way, smart man, who’s even listening to you now?
  25. 0
    9 March 2014 00: 58
    The article left a double impression, so I didn’t give it either a plus or a minus. I won’t quote, but every correct thought expressed in one sentence is almost immediately neutralized by another sentence. And so on throughout the entire article. The impression is like eating a fish without getting your hands wet. Neither ours nor yours. This does not happen, although for an American, a former secretary of state, this is progress.
  26. Backfire
    -5
    9 March 2014 00: 59
    Quote: Santor
    Because they have been there for hundreds of years, and according to the agreement, Russia can keep 25 soldiers there at 000 facilities belonging to the Black Sea Fleet. The facilities are located throughout Crimea. Your post is simply due to lack of information and that’s all. Or rather, from misinformation.


    The locations of the deployment of Russian troops are clearly defined by the treaty.
    "Little green men in Crimea" are not located in these areas at all
    1. +3
      9 March 2014 05: 22
      Because these are the Crimean self-defense troops, they are where they need to be, they are at home, it’s up to them to decide. But wherever your penguins are, who allowed them to be there, do they have a UN mandate? Where did peace come after their appearance? The answer is obvious: the Americans have brought neither peace nor prosperity to anyone or anywhere. Americans protect only the selfish interests of American companies. Do you think you’ll buy everyone, but force anyone you don’t buy? The mouse's tears will still come back to haunt the cat.
      The empire of lies and purity (USA) will destroy itself.
    2. 0
      9 March 2014 15: 59
      your nickname is so ummm... expressive... have you tried to shoot yourself?
  27. +1
    9 March 2014 00: 59
    The US military is ready to support its allies in Europe and provide support to Ukraine. The United States is sending a clear signal to Russia that it is ready to respond to the threat. This was stated by the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey.

    http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/dempsey-us-military-will-fulfill

    -treaty-obligations-to-nato-allies
    http://ukranews.com/ru/news/crimea_occupation/2014/03/08/117413
  28. Backfire
    -12
    9 March 2014 01: 08
    Quote: Santor
    All this will end with Russia leaving the dollar segment. You can jump around with tambourines behind the Big Puddle as much as you like - Europe will not agree to confrontation with Russia, which is already visible to the naked eye.. And we don’t even care about Canada’s attempts..... New Zealand? Who is this anyway and where?


    Great-power chauvinism again. We are so big, one sixth, always one sixth of the landmass.
    Okay, let’s skip the details that 65 percent of Russia’s territory is permafrost. Let's get to the main point.

    Who are the “we” you are writing about? Countries and peoples are ruled by elites. From time to time, people make corrections. Are you a member of your elite? About 1 trillion of your elite’s money is in the generalized “West”. So what, they “wave their hand at them”? And the children will be taken from the USA, Great Britain, Switzerland, etc. and sent to... Mongolia, North Korea?

    But here’s what “you” can really do in your own country:
    Here is a video where a man who hung a poster with Navalny is convinced that even in the house that he considers his own, he is nobody:

    1. VADEL
      +4
      9 March 2014 03: 02
      Who are the “we” you are writing about? Countries and peoples are ruled by elites. From time to time, people make corrections. Are you a member of your elite? About 1 trillion of your elite’s money is in the generalized “West”. So what, they “wave their hand at them”? And the children will be taken from the USA, Great Britain, Switzerland, etc. and sent to... Mongolia, North Korea?

      But here’s what “you” can really do in your own country:

      We can do everything! Plant potatoes, hatch chickens, raise children and many, many, many... Little "BOOK" and only the indigenous peoples - the Indians - will survive in the States. The elite will come..."elite with a scythe" soldier
      1. +2
        9 March 2014 05: 28
        You're right. Since when did traders and moneylenders become the elite?
        Narcissistic egoists.
    2. +3
      9 March 2014 04: 06
      Why are you bothering us then? Take the piled-up stuff and dump it in the mattress. Respect to the climber.
    3. +1
      9 March 2014 12: 00
      Would you go to Ashton in the crack, whatever your nickname is: fire-ass? fire from the butt? butt on fire? fire in the butt?
  29. shalk
    +4
    9 March 2014 01: 28
    Quote: bubalik
    The US military is ready to support its allies in Europe and provide support to Ukraine. The United States is sending a clear signal to Russia that it is ready to respond to the threat. This was stated by the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey.


    Very threatening. I would like specifics: how to support and how to respond? So that later it doesn’t turn out like in 2008 with toilet paper.
  30. +3
    9 March 2014 01: 46
    WASHINGTON. US Secretary of State John Kerry told Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that if Russia does not abandon its attempts to annex Crimea, diplomatic relations between the US and the Russian side will be impossible. This was reported by a source in the White House.

    On TyTrube or VK, click “Right to send”

    This would be the best answer for the USA
    1. DMB-78
      +1
      9 March 2014 02: 38
      Quote: 1aspid1
      WASHINGTON. US Secretary of State John Kerry told Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that if Russia does not abandon its attempts to annex Crimea, diplomatic relations between the US and the Russian side will be impossible. This was reported by a source in the White House.

      We've heard so much of this. Yes, if you don’t want to talk, don’t. We will come to an agreement with Europe faster, people there are more adequate.
  31. shalk
    +2
    9 March 2014 02: 09
    Quote: 1aspid1
    WASHINGTON. US Secretary of State John Kerry told Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that if Russia does not abandon its attempts to annex Crimea, diplomatic relations between the US and the Russian side will be impossible. This was reported by a source in the White House.


    It is better for the media to wait for a statement from Kerry himself, so as not to refer to “difficulties in translation” later.
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  33. +2
    9 March 2014 02: 42
    When little children are enlightened, they still don’t understand that this can’t be done, and not out of spite, but simply They don’t understand - that’s why they put them in a corner in kindergarten or dad gives them a belt to teach the correct Turks!))))
  34. bubble82009
    +2
    9 March 2014 03: 14
    Is a conflict possible between Ukraine and Russia? (version)
    I think it's possible. It turns out that in Ukraine something is driving and shooting, and something is moving towards Crimea. Why is armed conflict necessary? this is a provocation on the part of the Kyiv Junta. they don't care about people! They have already proven this on the Maidan, shooting at unarmed Maidan protesters on Grushevsky Street. These are political swindlers! they are irresponsible people. Why do they need this conflict? it is needed to cause return fire and raise NATO and US troops to war for the adventurers of politicians Yarosh, Yatsenyuk and Turchynov. to show their determination in the fight for their lands. These gentlemen understand that the Ukrainian army will be defeated. but this should act as a detonator. Thus, they want to cause Russians and Ukrainians to hate each other and confrontation. to give rise to harsh pressure on dissenters within the country. and send NATO troops into Ukraine. It’s not for nothing that the country’s gold was exported to the USA. In addition, a small war will tear the people away from their problems. The Ukrainian army can start hostilities, but it will not be able to conduct them. it is capable of conducting contact warfare. it is not capable of non-contact warfare. The Russian army has means of conducting remote warfare. but this doesn’t matter to the adventurers from Kyiv, the main thing for them is blood. and many, intoxicated by nationalist slogans, are ready to join the ranks of the heavenly hundred. The Ukrainian Army will not be able to conduct combat operations in several directions, but it is capable of provocations like August 2008. The junta will fall, it will go to Poland, Canada, the USA. but bleeding Ukraine will remain. Yarosh is thinking of dragging Russia into a guerrilla war in Ukraine. The United States will hand over a weakened Ukraine and Russia will need to do something with it. we will do this, it is in our interests. but it won't work. The Russian army and the South-Eastern militia will not go further than Zbruch. it makes no sense. they will rot there themselves. I feel sorry for the people, but they made this choice themselves. followed the political adventurers.
    http://ardelfi.livejournal.com/39422.html
  35. Oleg Prophetic
    +3
    9 March 2014 04: 29
    And you are lucky that you can still resist the new bandits, but I live in the north of Ukraine, so we have a lot of Banderas, and strong pro-Maidan sentiments will sink, but they will not fight against Russia. In our country they would rather die (or be slaves) than they will go to rallies. It’s too bad I don’t live in the southeast, I would go to a rally for Russia and put all my energy into kicking out the Nazis, but alas.
  36. +1
    9 March 2014 04: 34
    Wise policy asshole!!! What the hell are you doing in Ukraine??? with an impudent mug they got involved in something other than their own business and give advice. What right did the “corn grower” Khrushchev have to give away such territories. Crimea was, is and will be the territory of Russia. Americans should think about Russian Alaska??? The Japanese and the Kuril Islands still cannot calm down.
  37. +2
    9 March 2014 06: 30

    as accurately noted))
    1. DMB-78
      +1
      9 March 2014 07: 00
      Quote: MolGro
      as accurately noted))

      and not for the first time
  38. +1
    9 March 2014 07: 43
    You say the Cold War... but now it means a warm war is happening... well, well, they killed me, they just scared me, as I understand it, we weren’t doing well before, and if something worse happens... it’s a damn temptation... it’s difficult even choose...
  39. +3
    9 March 2014 10: 14
    Quote: Backfire
    that 65 percent of Russia's territory is permafrost


    Killed on the spot...... And we also have bears roaming through garbage dumps, wolves walking along the corridors (it doesn’t matter that it was filmed in a studio in the USA), crowds of beggars in the corners, and people who are driven by hundreds of thousands for supporting Yale graduate Navalny to Zybyr, there are no trains, so I walk on foot and with bells around my neck.... And everyone in Russia hates the dwarf Puten and so I will start an uprising......

    I regularly get acquainted with the press of the USA and the West..... Your brainwashing machine in the states works no worse than it does now in Ukraine :)))
  40. +1
    9 March 2014 10: 22
    Quote: bubalik
    The US military is ready to support its allies in Europe and provide support to Ukraine. The United States is sending a clear signal to Russia that it is ready to respond to the threat. This was stated by the head of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey.


    Well, let's see what the general said there:

    “If Russia has the right to do this... Enter a sovereign country under the pretext of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine, then this creates risks for Europe in places where there are ethnic enclaves,” the general added.

    The US entered Grenada under the pretext of protecting 12 students, overthrew the government and carried out a massacre..... Why can't Russia protect its citizens and prevent ethnic cleansing?

    Earlier, US Under Secretary of State William Burns said that the White House will restrain Russia's further encroachment on Ukrainian territories.

    Further...but no longer accomplished... America signals to Moscow that it has swallowed Crimea, but no matter what happens next.

    According to him, President Barack Obama, Secretary of State John Kerry and the entire administration are "working hard" to provide urgent international support for Ukraine. Among the main elements of the country's strategy of support are “restraining further attacks on Ukrainian territories and further pressure to put an end to the occupation of Crimea by Russia,” Burns said.

    We read above - the key word is “further”

    "We have a treaty obligation with our NATO allies. And I have assured them that if that treaty obligation is invoked (in Europe), we will respond," Dempsey said.

    Only if NATO wants it..... Twists of diplomacy.. the general unobtrusively hints to the Europeans - take the first step, and according to Article 4, we will immediately come to the rescue because of our Big Puddle... Europe, hmm.. Britain is unequivocal stated its position, and Her Majesty's Government warned the British media that any threats against Russia can only come from private individuals...

    The general makes a statement, the essence of which is that if Europe calls us... like, well, we were ready, but Europe didn’t call us... And the fish won’t freeze, and the tail won’t freeze.
  41. +1
    9 March 2014 10: 24
    And one more thing - apparently they have already surrendered Crimea... But from now on they will not en masse recognize the decisions of the referendum and scream about its occupation for 25-30 years... we have already gone through this, the USA did not recognize the USSR for 24 years - this prevented us?
  42. +1
    9 March 2014 11: 26
    Everything was clear and calculated from the moment he left the post of US Ambassador. They DID NOT SEND another ambassador.
    Ukraine, Belarus, and then an attack on us.
    Obama went on vacation, the vice president went on vacation - they are already in the bunker.
    They are preparing for the third world war.
  43. +2
    9 March 2014 13: 45
    Obama and Cameron threatened Russia with consequences for any attempt to legitimize the results of the referendum.

    This means that the will of the people means nothing to them. They are fed up with these Anglo-Saxons (does not apply to Abama) Do they really want war? Didn't you fight? Or do they think it will be like a computer game?
  44. sazhka4
    +1
    10 March 2014 09: 12
    Quote: gfs84
    They will never understand the meaning of the phrase:

    Russians (Chuvash, Mordovian, Khanty, Yanetsk, Tatar, Chechen, Yakut, etc., etc.) do not abandon theirs in a war !!!

    Because we are ALL Russian, no matter how you look at it...
  45. +1
    10 March 2014 13: 12
    NATO troops will enter Ukraine - 100%, their only goal will be to take control of the gas distribution system. Ukraine does not have the money to pay for gas; in fact, all the assistance received from the West, if they still receive it, they must give to Russia.
    Russia warned... and will close the valve a little... the gas will begin to evaporate rapidly on the way to Europe, and winter is not over yet... everything will be shut off until the end of the showdown, the funny thing is that countries like Germany will not suffer, they are powered through Nord Stream.
    Then NATO will stand up to protect Europe... from Ukraine... the latter will not see a cube of gas, and the storage facilities will not last forever.
  46. +1
    10 March 2014 17: 58
    It'll be this way forever!
  47. 0
    12 March 2014 17: 11
    good enemy smart literate incorrigible