What ends the Ukrainian crisis ("The Washington Post", USA)

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All public discussions about Ukraine today are a sheer confrontation. But do we know where we are going? During my life, I saw four wars that started with great enthusiasm and popular support, and which we then did not know how to end, leaving one of these three wars unilaterally. The test for a politician is not how it begins, but how it ends.

Too often portrayed as the Ukrainian question Showdown: Ukraine will go to the west or east. But if Ukraine wants to survive and thrive, it must not be turned into an outpost of one party against another. It should be a bridge between them.

Russia should recognize that attempts to turn Ukraine into a satellite state and thereby move again Russian borders doom her to repeat the self-fulfilling cycle of reciprocal measures pressure in relations with Europe and the United States.

The West must understand that for Russia Ukraine will never become an ordinary foreign state. Russian story began with Kievan Rus. From there came Russian Orthodoxy. Ukraine was part of Russia for centuries, but even before that, their history was closely intertwined. The most important battles for the freedom of Russia, beginning with the battle of Poltava 1709, took place on Ukrainian soil. The Black Sea Fleet, through which Russia projects power into the Mediterranean, is based on a long-term lease agreement in the Crimean city of Sevastopol. Even such famous dissidents as Alexander Solzhenitsyn and Joseph Brodsky insisted that Ukraine is an integral part of Russian history, and of Russia itself.

The European Union must recognize that the slowness of its bureaucracy and the subordination of the strategic element of domestic policy in the negotiations on Ukraine’s relations with Europe have led to the negotiation process becoming a crisis. Foreign policy is the art of prioritization.

The decisive element is the Ukrainians themselves. They live in a country with a complex history and multilingual composition. The western part of Ukraine was annexed to the Soviet Union in 1939, when Stalin and Hitler shared trophies. The Crimea, which consists of Russians on 60 percent, became part of Ukraine only in 1954, when a Ukrainian by birth Nikita Khrushchev awarded this republic in honor of the 300 anniversary of the Russian treaty with the Cossacks. The west of the country is mainly Catholic; The east overwhelmingly professes Russian Orthodoxy. The West speaks Ukrainian; The east speaks mainly Russian. Any attempt by one part of Ukraine to dominate another, which has become a pattern, will eventually lead to a civil war or a split in the country. If we consider Ukraine as a component of the confrontation between the East and the West, then any prospects for creating an international system of cooperation within Russia and the West - and especially Russia and Europe - will be destroyed for decades.

Ukraine is independent only 23 year. Before that, it had been under someone's, but always foreign, power since the 14-th century. Not surprisingly, its leaders have not learned the art of compromise, and even less have mastered the skills of seeing the historical perspective. The policy of Ukraine after gaining independence clearly shows that the root of the problem lies in the attempts of Ukrainian politicians to impose their will on an unruly and persistent part of the country. First, one faction does this, and then another. This is the essence of the conflict between Viktor Yanukovich and his main political rival, Yulia Tymoshenko. They represent the two wings of Ukraine and do not want to share power. A wise US policy towards Ukraine should include seeking opportunities for cooperation between the two parts of the country. We must strive to reconcile the factions, and not to dominate one of them.

But Russia and the West, and most importantly - all the numerous Ukrainian factions - do not follow this principle. Each side only aggravates the situation. Russia will not be able to impose a military solution without self-isolation, and this will happen at a time when its extended borders are in an unreliable state. For the West, demonizing Vladimir Putin is not politics; it is an excuse for not having one.

Putin must come to an understanding that, despite all his complaints and complaints, the policy of military pressure will lead only to the beginning of a new cold war. The United States, for its part, should not treat Russia as a country that has strayed from the right path, which must patiently learn the rules of conduct set by Washington. Putin is a serious strategist on the field of Russian history. Understanding American values ​​and psychology is not its strongest feature. And understanding of Russian history and psychology has never been a strong feature of American political leaders.

Leaders from all sides must return to the analysis of the results and consequences, instead of competing in the posturing. Here are my views on the outcome of corresponding values ​​and security interests of all parties:

1. Ukraine should have the right to freely choose their economic and political ties, including with Europe.

2. Ukraine should not join NATO. I stuck to this position seven years ago, when I first had this question.

3. Ukraine should have every opportunity to create a government corresponding expressed will of the people. Wise Ukrainian leaders in this case will give preference to the policy of reconciliation of different parts of the country. Internationally, they should adopt a policy that is comparable with the policy of Finland. This country leaves no doubt of its full independence and cooperate with the West in most areas, but at the same time carefully avoids political hostility towards Russia.

4. According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea. But relations of Crimea with Ukraine can be made more calm. For these purposes, Russia must recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea. Ukraine should expand Crimean autonomy in the elections in the presence of foreign observers. This process should include the removal of any omissions and uncertainties regarding the status of the Black Sea. fleet in the Sevastopol.

These are principles, not prescriptions. Familiar with this region people know that some of them will fall not to the liking of one side or another. But it is more important than absolute satisfaction and dissatisfaction balanced. If not found a solution based on these or similar elements, the slide toward confrontation accelerate. Time for such a decision will come soon enough.
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  1. sazhka4
    +113
    8 March 2014 10: 02
    Like a smart guy. But one and the same rake does not teach anything. Russia should, Russia is, Russia is to..By and large, we have never, just never got out of war .. Or from a state of war. There are too many volunteers, "Point out". For Russia, the only decree is the Decree of the President, the rest is on the drum .. I'm not a supporter of Putin. But if necessary, then it is necessary ...
    PS Chassis and Boeing and watermelons and not only produced by Russia .. I wonder who will lose ..
    1. +14
      8 March 2014 16: 15
      forget who he is
      1. +65
        8 March 2014 16: 52
        Quote: Siberian19
        forget who he is

        after the words: "it must not turn into an outpost of one side against the other. It must become a bridge between them." I didn't read further. I am Ukrainian, but I believe that a separate state of Ukraine does not exist! This is one country and we are taught from childhood about Ukraine, Belarus, Tatarstan, Chechnya, etc. These are the seeds for separatism. People perceive this with their mother's milk and believe that the country can potentially be divided. In fact, this is an indirect suggestion of a non-existent problem.
        1. +38
          8 March 2014 18: 56
          I am Russian and subscribe to your every word. We, the brothers, want to quarrel and pit - to our own benefit - the enemies who have always been them, with the tsar-priest, with the Bolsheviks, now. More than anything else, they fear our reunion. Upset them.
          1. +63
            8 March 2014 19: 04
            Quote: Boatswain_Palych
            We, the brothers, want to quarrel and pit - to our own benefit - the enemies who have always been them, with the tsar-priest, with the Bolsheviks, now.
            1. +9
              8 March 2014 19: 09
              Activity APU say shooting today (Lviv)
              1. +1
                8 March 2014 19: 10
                And this is Zhytomyr
                1. +14
                  8 March 2014 19: 23
                  And these are ours in Stavropol
                  1. Sib. Uralets
                    0
                    8 March 2014 22: 04
                    why are you trying
                2. +16
                  8 March 2014 19: 32
                  Quote: sds555
                  And this is Zhytomyr
                  Unknown polite people mined the border of Crimea
                  1. +15
                    8 March 2014 21: 36
                    This is not shown on Ukrainian TV, although 1 + 1 Ukrainian channel
                    1. Mature naturalist
                      +2
                      8 March 2014 22: 24
                      Jewish hundred entry in Israel
                      1. Mature naturalist
                        +8
                        8 March 2014 22: 56
                        Jewish Cossacks: ... and our tanks are fast.

                      2. +3
                        8 March 2014 23: 59
                        You are an adult, and these are not Jews, these are radicals, and they never when they are at war stsikotno. Orthodox are a relic of the past.
                      3. Mature naturalist
                        +1
                        9 March 2014 20: 40
                        Oleg, I read your posts.
                        The impressions are as follows: you are not stupid, but Russian is not your native language. And the USSR flag does not suit you.

                        It seems that in the days of the USSR, your dad did not even meet your mother.

                        Learn Russian - come in handy.
                        "Piss" is a Russian word, "piss" is written by those who have not even had a chance to read a pager.
                      4. -1
                        9 March 2014 07: 22
                        7.62 for this audience, I think it will be kosher.
                      5. Mature naturalist
                        0
                        9 March 2014 19: 46
                        And a bit more. Pure neighing!

                      6. +5
                        8 March 2014 23: 13
                        Wei Wei !! Where the world is still heading !!!! The first hundred Jewish Bendera !!! Azochen Way !!!!!
                      7. +6
                        9 March 2014 01: 12
                        The Jews of Bandera? Cool, like in the looking glass. God works in mysterious ways. Truly, whom God wants to punish, that he deprives the mind.
                      8. +1
                        9 March 2014 02: 34
                        Quote: Mature Naturalist
                        Jewish hundred entry in Israel

                        No wonder. Apparently there is a Baltic scenario. At first, they called on the Russians to support the authorities and they say you will live just like skating in butter, and then they banned the Russian language and move a policy of open hatred of the Russians. In the beginning, the Balts attacked not only the Russians, but also the Jews. Then they gave the Jews a choice: to be Jews Russophobes along with the Nazis or Jews Russophiles under the Nazi press. Do I need to explain to someone what choice was made? And now in Ukraine they pretend that there is no Russophobia and there will not be ... In general, the scenario is further clear. But the fact that when it is beneficial for them to build a brotherly people and even Shandarakhuny (... oh, excuse me ... Shanderovich) is condemned, but they condemn them as soon as the wind starts blowing the other way
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                  3. +17
                    8 March 2014 23: 41
                    Russian soldier in Crimea - I am in my own land
                    1. +26
                      9 March 2014 00: 17
                      Appeal of a soldier of the Ukrainian army to the Russians.
                3. +11
                  8 March 2014 20: 06
                  Well, where did these columns go, someone's cottages to protect ??? There is not a single tank. And in general, I will be delighted if ours have to face such. And even during the withdrawal of these "troops", the Woman clearly pronounced the word Bastards.
                  1. +10
                    8 March 2014 21: 28
                    Let's hope that their commanders change their minds. And even better if they go over to the side of Yevnukhovich and return to clean Ukraine will begin.
                  2. +2
                    8 March 2014 21: 49
                    Quote: Patriot.ru.
                    And in general, I will be delighted if ours are faced with such here.
                    I just found out Poland urgently evacuates the consulate from the Crimea, Ukrainian border guards block ours in Transnistria. In Crimea, the concentration of Smerch and Buki, plus a stolen MANPADS needle. On the territory of Ukraine is full of Polish military.
                    1. +11
                      8 March 2014 22: 20
                      Well, if they wanted war, they would get it. I hope our strategists have foreseen such a situation.
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                    3. Stalker
                      +18
                      8 March 2014 22: 21
                      I just found out Poland urgently evacuates the consulate from the Crimea, Ukrainian border guards block ours in Transnistria. In Crimea, the concentration of Smerch and Buki, plus a stolen MANPADS needle. On the territory of Ukraine is full of Polish military.

                      America sincerely wonders: why should Russia send its troops to Ukraine, because there is no oil there.
                      1. +8
                        8 March 2014 23: 59
                        They will never understand the meaning of the phrase:

                        Russians (Chuvash, Mordovian, Khanty, Yanetsk, Tatar, Chechen, Yakut, etc., etc.) do not abandon theirs in a war !!!
                      2. 0
                        9 March 2014 00: 13
                        [media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = RGP-12giBdA
                      3. +7
                        9 March 2014 00: 25


                        Something like that...
                      4. +2
                        9 March 2014 01: 15
                        Quote: gfs84
                        They will never understand the meaning of the phrase.

                        Buddy gfs84, NEVER - means no or not enough time, but NEVER - denial. Fuck with her with punctuation, but you must write spelling correctly in Russian! And google to help you. hi
                      5. +2
                        9 March 2014 01: 44
                        Thank! Spelling is my problem, despite the techie and university education ...
                      6. 0
                        9 March 2014 02: 04
                        Not at all. Success. drinks
                      7. sergei tulun
                        0
                        9 March 2014 06: 42
                        ... well, but, in terms of meaning, to a point .... once, never, or rather they don’t need it .... they, Americans, or anyone else, have only their own opinion, any other, or not right or stupid ....
                      8. 0
                        12 March 2014 06: 48
                        I would add Buryat
                      9. +4
                        9 March 2014 01: 30
                        For Americans, national interests mean profits of American and multinational companies headquartered in the USA, nothing personal, just business. It’s just a nation of emigrants, they don’t remember Ivan’s kinship, their roots are lost. Compare, the vegetable in hydroponics is beautiful, but tasteless, and grown in the wild, in the open air in the open air, is not so beautiful, but tasty. Therefore, grown up in hydroponics under a lamp, modern Americans will never understand us free.
                    4. +3
                      8 March 2014 23: 37
                      The most dangerous blackvoters. These creatures will be fired from both sides to stir up conflict. They threw them there.
                      1. +2
                        9 March 2014 01: 37
                        We must try to capture these as evidence for television, judge them and let them serve in our prisons, in no case extradite them, let them sit for 20-25 years, and then deport them. But their commanders must be shot like mad animals.
                      2. 11111mail.ru
                        +1
                        9 March 2014 07: 16
                        Quote: 31231
                        These creatures will be fired from both sides to stir up conflict.

                        Moscow, October 1993. Who THEN fired at cordon off the database? Who was it profitable then? And who then took power? Do you remember, or were you still in the cradle?
                    5. +9
                      8 March 2014 23: 46
                      Quote: bomg.77
                      I just found out Poland urgently evacuates the consulate from the Crimea, Ukrainian border guards block ours in Transnistria. In Crimea, the concentration of Smerch and Buki, plus a stolen MANPADS needle. On the territory of Ukraine is full of Polish military.


                      Here -
                      Tomorrow, March 9, Ukraine will begin military exercises at the isthmus connecting Crimea to the mainland. This was reported by Russian political scientist Sergei Markov.

                      “Military exercises near the Crimea are scheduled for March 9 ... According to my information, 10 tanks, armored personnel carriers, 2 air defense missile battalions,” he wrote on Facebook.

                      Markov claims that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine “cannot yet find officers who are ready to board tanks and go to Crimea. After all, these tanks will turn into coffins. "

                      that is why these "teachings" will end if the future of the so-called. misunderstandings called "ukryina"
                  3. +10
                    8 March 2014 23: 18
                    The dubious joy of killing brothers because of some Bendery trash.
                    1. +3
                      9 March 2014 00: 36
                      Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
                      The dubious joy of killing brothers because of some Bendery trash.

                      dubious "brothers".
                      1. 0
                        9 March 2014 10: 10
                        And they don’t choose brothers.
                    2. +4
                      9 March 2014 01: 41
                      Bandera’s do not consider us as their brothers, and they will kill ours without remorse, due to the lack thereof.
                      1. 0
                        11 March 2014 01: 28
                        but what about those who consider Russian brothers but swore allegiance to Ukraine, we are not a prostitute to change the oath 20 times, and who will believe those who change it? my koment, as always, is late, I can’t stop by often and on time, but I hope that they will read and try to understand ....
                4. +48
                  8 March 2014 20: 09
                  Their advice should be followed if he decided to die.
                  What kills me the most is the arrogance of the Americans! A country assembled from the scum of the world, without history, recognizing only force as an argument, destroying the indigenous population of the continent, the country is a provocateur!
                  And these scum teach others how to live! Is there at least one place where they didn’t wage war and chaos by sticking their nose?
                  Having provoked two world wars and having earned fabulous money on this, they will teach the whole world how to build a peaceful democratic state!
                  Until now, in the entire history only the USSR has compelled to behave decently this by-state.
                  I believe that we will find in ourselves the strength and wisdom to restore the economy and drive into the barn of these unbridled pigs.
                  They may well behave! If you know that the bear is not sleeping and somewhere nearby!
                  1. +18
                    8 March 2014 20: 46
                    Quote: Polovec
                    Their advice should be followed if he decided to die.
                    What kills me the most is the arrogance of the Americans! A country assembled from the scum of the world, without history, recognizing only force as an argument, destroying the indigenous population of the continent, the country is a provocateur!
                    And these scum teach others how to live! Is there at least one place where they didn’t wage war and chaos by sticking their nose?
                    Having provoked two world wars and having earned fabulous money on this, they will teach the whole world how to build a peaceful democratic state!
                    Until now, in the entire history only the USSR has compelled to behave decently this by-state.
                    I believe that we will find in ourselves the strength and wisdom to restore the economy and drive into the barn of these unbridled pigs.
                    They may well behave! If you know that the bear is not sleeping and somewhere nearby!


                    Totally agree with you! American antics have already gotten out. If anyone watched the movie "AVATAR" there is an episode when the correct glories were said and they refer only to America: "IF WE NEED RESOURCES, WE ARE LANDING FROM THE BEGINNING, DECLARING THAT THE LOCAL POPULATION IS ENEMIES (or, in our case, are not democratic) AND DESTROY !
                    1. 0
                      8 March 2014 21: 50
                      Dugin said the SGA has such a state. Die today and we tomorrow.
                      1. 11111mail.ru
                        0
                        9 March 2014 07: 20
                        Quote: Patriot.ru.
                        Die today and we tomorrow.

                        Dugin is a collectivist, however, Solzhenitsyn in the "Gulag Archipelago" had a similar "you you die today, I am tomorrow "(camp morality).
                  2. +20
                    8 March 2014 21: 57
                    I’ll only add ... That the weapons of mass destruction (ANY) were used without thinking .. And speak with them in the language of diplomacy ... It’s only to dig a grave deeper. Only until they get FULL, UNDERSTAND.
                    1. +4
                      9 March 2014 01: 46
                      They fully understand diplomacy, the main thing is that your words be supported by a cocked colt in your hand.
                    2. Roman48
                      +2
                      9 March 2014 08: 42
                      I completely agree! The criminal element, and US foreign policy is criminal, understands only the language of power!
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                  4. Stalker
                    +7
                    8 March 2014 22: 29
                    Is there at least one place where they put their nose in, they did not arrange war and chaos?

                    I'll add more! Wherever they poke their snotty nose, they find themselves in shit "with pens" ... And now they are trying to test us for strength with the help of GEYNATO. Smelly Poles are not warriors for us (damn it! A pun popper), It's a pity that we put a lot of people for these zips ..
                    1. +1
                      9 March 2014 01: 52
                      Everyone is not fighting badly for a just cause, but deep down they (most of them) feel that they are wrong and that is their weakness. God is not Nikishka ...
                  5. alex motkin
                    +1
                    9 March 2014 07: 03
                    totally agree with you
                5. +10
                  8 March 2014 20: 34
                  Quote: sds555
                  And this is Zhytomyr

                  At 66, the ZU-23 sticks out, it's generally a do-it-yourselfer.
                  We’ll say that the equipment isn’t new at all, and as for 66, they are no longer used in Russia. Most likely, all the equipment has been removed from storage facilities. At the moment, the Ukrainian army should not have started any maneuvers. It will be easier for mothers and provoke polite people for some kind of action is not worth it.
                  No matter how hard it was, the country's army must remain completely neutral, taking either side of the army increases the chance of a civil war.
                  1. +1
                    9 March 2014 00: 01
                    At 66 a mortar sticks out)))) And 66 in Russia before the hell. After these your words, then the whole stream of thoughts is useless
                    1. Hudo
                      +1
                      9 March 2014 00: 53
                      Quote: mehanik27
                      At 66, a mortar sticks out))))


                      Look carefully, in the column are several GAZ 66 without tents with ZUShki and their calculations.
                    2. +1
                      9 March 2014 09: 31
                      Quote: mehanik27
                      At 66 the mortar sticks out)))) And 66 in Russia before the hell.

                      Nothing to fantasize son, look carefully.
                      And when such a column runs into provocateurs, then you will understand the meaning of my words!
                      Today we need negotiations and not trips with weapons around the country!
                      1. +1
                        9 March 2014 12: 23
                        My daughter, Ukraine is not at war with anyone yet. On its territory, it can drive columns wherever and whenever it wants. Thank God it’s enough to not rock the boat in the Crimea. By your logic, dear, the last teachings in Russia were also not needed, but it was necessary to negotiate with someone and about something? Where did such double standards come from? We ourselves don’t like it when they are applied to us, but we ourselves operate with might and main.
                      2. 0
                        9 March 2014 12: 36
                        Quote: mehanik27
                        "Where do such double standards come from? We ourselves don’t like it when they are applied to us, but we ourselves operate with might and main.

                        Strange you react, in my opinion I wrote clearly conversation and it was not like you or Russia or Ukraine did not distinguish that you had a conversation about double standards. And the exercises, maneuvers, the transfer of troops in a country on the verge of a civil war ........... I see no more reckless act.
                        Moreover, judging by the video, the soldiers have not been in training for a long time, it is difficult to imagine what movement in the columns is, and the armament itself ....... I think there will be problems with it.
                        There is no alternative to negotiations now!
                6. +3
                  8 March 2014 20: 41
                  Quote: sds555
                  And this is Zhytomyr

                  What are they driving around in circles? laughing
                7. +3
                  8 March 2014 21: 04
                  Do they really have a few hammers or do they travel in circles?
                8. +2
                  9 March 2014 02: 39
                  Quote: sds555
                  And this is Zhytomyr

                  Is it a hammer at 2:20?
              2. +31
                8 March 2014 20: 25
                and here’s what I found. A nice picture
                1. brownie
                  +18
                  8 March 2014 20: 59
                  This is a photo from the joint exercises of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus at the Shirokiy Lan training ground last summer. And the picture is very nice. good
                  1. +1
                    8 March 2014 23: 30
                    Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
                    70s obviously with conservation, not even repainted. Exit-exit, but what is the further direction of this column? This is about the Ukrainian column, in our BTR-82 - fresh.
              3. +4
                8 March 2014 20: 56
                They do not travel in circles?
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                2. Stalker
                  +6
                  8 March 2014 22: 35
                  They do not travel in circles?

                  A platoon simulates entering a tank army position laughing
              4. NikoEro
                +11
                8 March 2014 21: 40
                Brothers, what is it, well, to tears. Well, I don’t want us to fight with our brothers, well, these are our guys. Yes, Ukrainians, but they are ours. I have an uncle from Lutsk, the most adequate person, is also against all this, but he is also offended for his country - he wants to identity, not fascist, but just to not perceive them as a shield of Russia. Lord, save our nations from this senseless war. I love Russia, I love Ukraine, well, why this? I understand that Crimea is strategically important, but how you do not want to shoot at your own people, this is terrible. Guys, well, this can’t be, I do not believe that there will be fire on Slavic soil and massacre among mine. Yes, there are stubborn Zapadentsev-Probeders, but their catastrophic minority, is it really impossible not to bring to war? Fearfully. Tearful for our history and future.
                1. Spring
                  +7
                  8 March 2014 22: 31
                  Do not forget that our country has already passed through the crucible of a civil war. For this, I personally consider all options.
                2. Mature naturalist
                  +2
                  8 March 2014 22: 33
                  Quote: NikoEro
                  Tearful for our history and future.

                  So your future in the USA. Why are you clinging to us?

                  If you hid behind the flag of the USSR, this does not mean that you are not seeing what you are writing from the United States.

                  They teach you badly. Crash Course: Takeoff / Landing?
                3. +2
                  9 March 2014 01: 26
                  We often use the word "tears". They ceased to be their own, the southeast did not, the rest ceased to be. When I was still a cadet in 1990, I heard from my Ukrainian classmates about Jews and Yahs, and what was the matter of being with them. So enough tears to shake your fist. Everything goes to the fact that the West will nevertheless set them on us. Still, it didn't work out to live according to Milosevic's precepts
                4. +1
                  9 March 2014 02: 05
                  Yanukovych didn’t want fratricide either, you took into account how it ended. It does not depend on us, either we surrender and then they will not shoot all of us, or we answer them and then they will die too.
                5. Roman48
                  +2
                  9 March 2014 08: 50
                  There are more good people. But the bad ones are better organized. Unfortunately, all this Bandera gang will have to be cleaned up. Persuasion does not solve anything with these ghouls. I would like to believe that it will be possible to do this targetedly.
              5. Mature naturalist
                +1
                8 March 2014 22: 36
                And this is on the highway Krasnodar-Novorossiysk

              6. +2
                8 March 2014 23: 05
                70s obviously with conservation, not even repainted. Exit-exit, but what is the further direction of this column?
            2. +40
              8 March 2014 19: 15
              No, that's not the case for me. I am not a supporter of Putin, but I am ready to go to fight for Sevastopol as a volunteer - for me it is a second homeland. Fighting not with Ukrainians, but with Nazi puppies, who imagined themselves to be the masters of all Ukraine and "forgot" that Ukraine in the modern - Soviet - borders was created by Russians for 350 years, cutting them, like brothers, even their own lands. And the Nazi Galicians, who have now seized power, were generally joined by Stalin, whom they hate so much for this.
              1. stapler
                +2
                8 March 2014 21: 46
                and therefore, take away what is theirs and let them knock down ... correct Stalin's mistakes, only the Bolsheviks cut our territories to others ... and now the Russian people have to sip a full spoonful in the "fraternal" country ...
            3. +2
              8 March 2014 21: 30
              .......................
              1. +11
                8 March 2014 21: 54
                Ukrainian troops go to the "front". Zhytomyr. 95th ocre

                I look at the video and understand how everything is ambiguous in the army of Ukraine. Who conducts the columns like that?
                I understand that now it’s not a war, but the convoy stretched for 10 kilometers, judging by the video. Here, with sticks and Molotov cocktails, destroy this unit once to spit!
              2. +3
                8 March 2014 23: 03
                Yes, he laughed heartily, great strength, enough for 5 minutes to fight)))
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            5. Stalker
              +35
              8 March 2014 22: 12
              Kiev authorities said that the Black Sea Fleet should not be in Ukraine. Moscow authorities have promised that after March 16 the Black Sea Fleet will not be on Ukrainian territory. belay lol
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          3. +9
            8 March 2014 22: 47
            I agree with your words that there is nothing to share with the Slav brothers, Bender is not my brothers!
          4. +4
            8 March 2014 23: 50
            I agree with you.
          5. +19
            9 March 2014 00: 18
            Like this.
          6. sazhka4
            0
            10 March 2014 09: 55
            Quote: Boatswain_Palych
            Upset them.

            It seems that they were going to participate in the "Tank Biathlon". TV show or reality, that is the question .. Two big differences ..
        2. +29
          8 March 2014 19: 25
          I absolutely agree with you. Russia is a collective image of many nationalities and religions. We are thousands of years old. Nobody decides us in this world. Fact.
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        4. +7
          8 March 2014 21: 48
          ... that potentially a country can be divided.

          And they do not remember, and do not know the other:
          "The father gathered the sons and gave them a bundle of twigs.
          - Break it.
          No matter how hard the sons tried, they could not break.
          Then the father untied the bunch and broke all the bars one at a time.
          - Be together - no one will defeat you. And one by one - even the weakest enemy will prevail. "
        5. +4
          8 March 2014 23: 26
          Quote: Oleg147741
          it should not become an outpost of one side against the other.

          here he is certainly right ...

          But, the fact is that the ultranaci who seized power will not compromise one iota ...
          Moreover, they are toughening up their attitude to Russian-speaking and dissenting ... up to the campaign to the Crimea!
          Under these conditions, only hard power will cripple them ... The faster the better. The only way! Cruelly and fiercely drive animals to the stall, and no other way!
        6. +2
          9 March 2014 01: 11
          Site "news.bigmir":

          "The United States is ready to respond to Russia with military action - General Dempsey
          33 min ago
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          The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, says that if the conflict escalates in the Crimea, the US army is ready to support Ukraine and its allies in Europe with military action.
          US ready to respond to military action - General Dempsey
          / AR
          As reported on the website of the NATO Council, M. Dempsey noted that "he talked with military colleagues from Russia and sent a clear signal to Ukraine and NATO members that the United States is ready to respond with military action if necessary."

          “We are trying to tell (Russia) not to escalate the situation further in Eastern Ukraine, and to allow the creation of conditions for the settlement of the situation in Crimea. in Europe), we will answer ", - said M. Dempsey.

          SEE ALSO: Large convoys of armored personnel carriers are seen on Ukrainian roads

          According to the general, the invasion of the Russian military into Crimea "creates risks for all European countries and NATO allies."

          "If Russia has the right to do this ... To enter a sovereign country under the pretext of protecting ethnic Russians in Ukraine, this creates risks for Europe in places where there are ethnic enclaves," said M. Dempsey. "

          http://news.bigmir.net/world/799482-SShA-gotovi-otvetit-Rossii-voennimi-deistviy
          ami - general-Dempsi
      2. +13
        8 March 2014 17: 08
        Everything is clear-who he ... is simply the position of the Euro-scholars and their owners, their goal was to prevent Ukraine from being involved in the TS sphere, and the situation at the end of the year was good for the TS, and now, thanks to the fascists, everything was very foggy, this was what they achieved .. .at at least the conflict will not die out very quickly and in this they are completely stuck ... so minus the article ... and the operation must be carried out precisely and most importantly quickly and without snot, and that is not unimportant -fierce ... war which, in fact, Yarosh declared to us (and he is an official) now is an occasion to declare war officially ...
        1. +3
          9 March 2014 02: 09
          Yarosh obviously will not die with his death. And the next one will be clearly more silent than Yarosh.
        2. +3
          9 March 2014 03: 16
          Quote: vo.dum
          the goal was to prevent Ukraine from being involved in the sphere of TS

          I believe that the main task of the backstage leaders of the Maidan was to make bloody porridge, and they use the vehicle as a damper (the most obvious goal that covers true intentions). That is why provoking hostilities is a big question. The boldest assumption is to divert to Ukraine and strike elsewhere. Amerikosov Putin terribly enrages, because he strengthens the country, builds up power, and look at such a pace that he will change the Constitution of the Russian Federation written in the US State Department and the feeder will hide + you need to avenge Syria ... In general, you need to be on the alert and look not only where they show it, but also on both sides.
      3. +28
        8 March 2014 17: 33
        Quote: "According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea."
        ====================================================================== =============
        -----!
        Mr. Kissinger, not owning the question, is trying to give recommendations properly!
        What annexation ?? belay What is he talking about?
        The choice will be made by the population of Crimea. In addition, Crimea was never a true Ukrainian territory, being part of Ukraine as an autonomous region. And he got there dope tovarischa maize, the people of Crimea, then no one asked! And now, just now, this is the moment of truth. Yes
        1. +5
          8 March 2014 18: 10
          ... it is still necessary to dig who "maize" pushed such decisions ...
        2. +20
          8 March 2014 19: 34
          Mr. Kissinger owns the question. "According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea." It's just that the Zionists, whose mouthpiece and policy conductor (as well as a member) is Heinz Alfred Kissinger, like all fascists consider themselves the main, chosen nation or superior race and are a priori convinced that only they have the right to ESTABLISH WORLD ORDERS. Therefore, it is permissible to annex Kosovo, but not Crimea. Bombing Yugoslavia, Libya, Afghanistan (hereinafter - wherever it is ALLOWED) is the protection of THEIR interests, and the protection by Russians of their citizens is already an aggression. Fortunately, more and more people around the world understand this. Now even the Austrians have pulled themselves together.
      4. +30
        8 March 2014 18: 01
        Russia does not owe anything to anyone. It all owes us! For constant aggression and the desire to destroy not only Russian Civilization, but also the people. Physically destroy! That says it all!
      5. +6
        8 March 2014 18: 53
        his time has passed, he always fought against Russia
      6. +9
        8 March 2014 19: 44
        Quote: Siberian19
        forget who he is

        Let’s surrender ours - they will be cut out. This cannot be allowed.
      7. +5
        8 March 2014 19: 52
        forget who he is

        Well, do without a Jew will do!
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        1. +14
          8 March 2014 20: 12
          Polovec (1) SU  Today, 20: 06 ↑
          What kills me the most is the arrogance of the Americans! A country assembled from the scum of the world, without history, recognizing only force as an argument, destroying the indigenous population of the continent, the country is a provocateur!
          And these scum teach others how to live! Is there at least one place where they didn’t wage war and chaos by sticking their nose?
          Having provoked two world wars and having earned fabulous money on this, they will teach the whole world how to build a peaceful democratic state!

          totally agree with you.
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      9. +1
        8 March 2014 20: 23
        "sibiryak19 RU Today, 16:15 ↑
        don't forget who he is "

        Yes, he is not "Leopold" - "guys, let's live together ..." !!!
      10. +10
        8 March 2014 20: 48
        Words words...
        attempts to turn Ukraine into a satellite state and thereby move the Russian borders again doom it to repeating a self-fulfilling cycle of mutual pressure in relations with Europe and the United States.

        When there were Ukraine and Russia, the United States was still not in sight, so repetition is out of the question.
        Ukraine is independent for the entire 23 year.

        Whole or whole? This time was enough for Stalin and Putin to raise after Judah a divided and tormented, robbed country to the HEIGHT, when we cannot but be reckoned with!
        Putin must come to understand that, despite all his discontent and complaints, the policy of military pressure will only lead to the start of a new Cold War.

        Did you stop her? We are YES, for as many as 20 years!

        Every paragraph LIES, LIES, CIRCULATION OF FACTS
      11. RND
        +2
        9 March 2014 00: 46
        Quote: Siberian19
        forget who he is

        Remember, know, see. We were fed with oil speeches and tears enough.
        And an understanding of Russian history and psychology has never been a strong feature of American political leaders.

        And they have neither history nor psychology. Their whole history is a multi-volume criminal case, and psychology is a guide to studying the behavior of serial killers and kleptomaniacs.
      12. +1
        9 March 2014 01: 14
        don't forget who he is

        A cunning and very smart enemy. One of the real people of the World Government. This is not an Obama amateur. Even he sometimes speaks open - and then his true face and those who stand behind him are revealed.
      13. Orc-xnumx
        +1
        9 March 2014 01: 32
        Quote: Siberian19
        forget who he is

        Jew!
      14. 0
        12 March 2014 06: 32
        with all the rejection of the author literally at the genetic level, the phrase is interesting and important - "the most important battles for the freedom of Russia took place in Ukraine" the time has come for another battle ...
    2. +18
      8 March 2014 16: 27
      1. Ukraine should have the right to freely choose their economic and political ties, including with Europe.

      3. Ukraine should have every opportunity to create a government, consistent with the expressed will of its people.

      People? And you go there on the Maidan! Who hindered them in this 23 of the year ??? Putin again !!!
      4. According to the rules of the existing world order, it is inadmissible for Russia to annex the Crimea. But relations between Crimea and Ukraine can be made more calm.
      What are the rules? You blew half the world to dust !!!
      Wise Ukrainian leaders

      And this is a pure circus! Wise Russophobes !!!

      From their tips, eyes on the left side crawl out, the parasites climb one after the other advisers unfinished! So I want to say Lavrov Miliband who would you be .... so that we can learn ???
      1. +1
        8 March 2014 21: 39
        what did Lavrov say so ??? lol
      2. +5
        9 March 2014 03: 29
        Quote: Sid.74
        And so I want to say how Lavrov Miliband who you b .... so that to teach us ???

        Lavrov the other day, at the beginning of a meeting with Kerry in Paris, poked him. I don’t remember exactly what he called that mob of those who came to the meeting with Kerry, I’ll call it “secretaries” in my retelling. So at the very beginning of the meeting, when everyone was seated in their places at the table, Lavrov looked at Kerry with a smile and uttered (approximately, I did not remember the exact words): I see that your secretaries today are all sitting on your right ... Right "Right Sector "some.
    3. +40
      8 March 2014 16: 27
      Joke remembered.
      Once asked Henry Kissinger what is diplomacy according to Henry Kissinger. And he answers.

      He (Henry Kissinger) comes to the bank and asks: - Do you need a vigorous Siberian man at the bank?
      - The bank answers: Fu no.
      “What if he’s Rockefeller’s son-in-law?”
      - Oh yeah!!
      Comes to Rockefeller.
      - Do you need a son-in-law a vigorous Siberian man?
      - Fu, no.
      - And if he is the vice president of the bank.
      - Oh yeah!!!
      Comes to Rockefeller's daughter.
      “Do you need a vice president of the bank as your husband?”
      - Fu, no.
      - And if he is a vigorous Siberian man?
      - Oh yeah!!!

      Everyone is happy! And here it is, Henry Kissinger diplomacy wink
      1. +3
        8 March 2014 18: 33
        Good joke !!!
      2. +8
        8 March 2014 19: 11
        Quote: Lantau
        Lantau

        And this is not an anecdote! It was Kissinger himself who explained "shuttle" diplomacy in this way!
      3. +2
        8 March 2014 19: 54
        Joke remembered.

        Shuttle diplomacy.
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        2. s1н7т
          +2
          8 March 2014 21: 59
          Quote: zennon
          Shuttle diplomacy

          She’s a member of some kind.
    4. +27
      8 March 2014 16: 59
      Quote: sazhka4
      I am not a supporter of Putin. But if necessary, then it is necessary ..

      And I am not a supporter, but if Crimea, and the whole southeast goes to Russia, I will bow to its feet. The growth, and even more the return of the territories, is like butter to my heart.
      1. platitsyn70
        +6
        8 March 2014 17: 27
        I don’t understand anything, become muddy,
        Wise US policy towards Ukraine
        The USA behaves very wisely, we say "like an elephant in a china shop"
        1. +11
          8 March 2014 17: 45
          On the question of the "wisdom" of American politics ...

          Former US National Security Agency (NSA) employee Edward Snowden confirmed that the US NSA was spying on telecommunications in EU countries, in particular, the network of the Belgian operator Belgacom, and even penetrated the computer networks of the European Commission. This was reported on March 8 by Interfax with reference to a communiqué of the European Parliament. These data, which Mr. Snowden presented in a written response to the European deputies, do not yet have other evidence. “I do not want to duplicate journalists, but I can confirm that all the documents so far disclosed are genuine and have not been changed. This means that the actions affecting Belgac, Swift (the Brussels-based system of international settlements), EU, UN, UNICEF and others did indeed take place, ”Edward Snowden wrote in a response published in the European Parliament. He noted that the NSA unit, engaged in international relations, has one of the main tasks - to persuade EU countries to amend the legislation so that it allows for mass surveillance. Such operations were carried out in Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, as a result of which, according to an ex-US intelligence officer, secret mass surveillance systems were created there.

          How on time information from Snowden pops up)))
          I wonder what else he will please Europeans and other supporters of the states?)))
          1. +9
            8 March 2014 20: 28
            Quote: gfs84
            How on time information from Snowden pops up)))
            I wonder what else he will please Europeans and other supporters of the states?)))

            I can imagine what a surge of fury in the State Department is caused by the next publication of classified documents "with love from Snowden"! laughing This brave guy is really well done, ideological. And most importantly, at the right time Yes
            1. +6
              8 March 2014 21: 00
              Quote: GSH-18
              And most importantly, at the right time

              And do you still believe in such a chain of randomness?
              Oh my god, such a person in our time!
              You can’t even say about it _ accident
              1. +27
                8 March 2014 21: 05
                You are right there are no accidents)))


              2. +4
                8 March 2014 21: 36
                Quote: Cynic
                And do you still believe in such a chain of randomness?

                I understood you. Accidents are not accidental. Everywhere you need to look for a crept in regularity. As the Amers are doing now, after their clumsy, that is, tried-and-tested attempt to tear Ukraine away from Russia at once. lol
          2. +26
            8 March 2014 20: 45
            Molotsy our men !!!

            Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that after the "overt threats to the United States and NATO," the expediency of the early rearmament of the Russian army and the revival of the defense industry will not be in doubt. “After the frank threats of the United States and NATO, I hope that no one will doubt the need for the early re-equipment of our army and navy, as well as the revival of the domestic defense industry and military science,” Mr. Rogozin wrote on March 8 on his Facebook page.

            Need-need !!!
            I fully support the restoration of the defense industry - this is the restoration of the whole country)))
      2. -1
        8 March 2014 19: 40
        The growth, and even more so the return of the territories, is like butter to my heart.
        ......... the current will have to get out of the bath, Herr officer
        1. +2
          8 March 2014 22: 37
          I myself understood what I wanted to say, Mr. 4-star general?
          1. 0
            9 March 2014 22: 16
            if you’re smart, you’ll understand it yourself, but if there’s albes, there’s no point in explaining
            1. 0
              10 March 2014 14: 11
              If the booby writes, the smart one will not understand.
    5. +52
      8 March 2014 17: 07
      Attention! I will ask to throw in the news:

      COMMANDER ALPHA. DONETSK

      1. Hudo
        +14
        8 March 2014 17: 14
        Donetsk police refused to comply with orders of Kiev
        http://svidomitov.net/2014/03/08/%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%



        B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%86%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B



        B%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%8C-%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BD%D1%8F%D1%82/

        In Mariupol, a rally of thousands announced a referendum (PHOTO)
        http://www.0629.com.ua/news/490958

        But the "incalculable" supporters of the junta.
        1. +14
          8 March 2014 19: 41
          Quote: Hudo
          Donetsk police refused to comply with orders of Kiev


          Yes, even if so ... Poznyak rushing around. The kid that you need now will not return, at least healthy and in his mind.

          In the place of the Donetsk opponents of Kiev’s illegitimate authority, I’d now pack all the Maidan people, like bash on bash, into the cold.
        2. +12
          8 March 2014 20: 01
          Quote: Hudo
          Donetsk police refused to comply with orders of Kiev

          I have the same information. straight from Donetsk from a colleague.

          O L E F K A
          14:49
          Zheka. Hi. Now in Mariupol there is a capture of the RSA. Our supporters.
          14:56
          About the Golden Eagle yesterday, the info is different. It is exactly the fact that the officers refused to obey Kiev.
          1. +10
            8 March 2014 20: 58
            The OSCE observers were not allowed into the Crimea, the Cossacks opened warning fire, they did a little wrong, it was necessary to flog these observers as well.
      2. +10
        8 March 2014 19: 45
        Thank you so much for the material. This is not srach on the Internet.
    6. +11
      8 March 2014 17: 35
      Fuck you, old Kissinger)
    7. +9
      8 March 2014 17: 57
      Kissinger is an old, burnt-out enemy and that’s it, even when it seems that he praises us, he simply scolds his young stupid people who allowed themselves to be treated down on him.
    8. +3
      8 March 2014 19: 30
      Quote: sazhka4
      It seems like a smart man. But the same rake does not teach anything. Russia must, Russia


      Seicha Dolgen follow a response like: Dear comrade Kissinger, you urgently need to understand that the Russian Federation and Putin, including the spit, turned your threats and creeps. ... Well, something like this
    9. +13
      8 March 2014 20: 41
      Russia must ... Russia must ...
      To stabilize relations with Ukraine ... should Russia recognize Ukrainian sovereignty over Crimea?
      OK. Then, to stabilize bilateral relations, the United States must give back:
      Alaska - Russia,
      Texas and California - Mexico,
      Louisiana - France,
      Florida and Puerto Rico - Spain ...
      And so on, until the international situation is completely stabilized, and then continue in domestic politics:
      - return the land to the Indians,
      - compensate blacks for slavery;
      - to compensate the communists for the "witch hunt" and, as the saying goes, again as it goes on! ..
      So, then the United States will be able to bring its constitution, electoral system in line with democratic standards, close secret prisons and stop listening to everyone and everything.
      If so, then the issue of recognition or non-recognition in anyone else’s composition other than Russia Crimea can be discussed, talk about it! This, as they say, is not a sack of bags ... although, we will be delicate!
      PS If any veteran of four unilaterally ended wars says that not all American states want to return back to their rightful owners, then let him remember that in the Crimea, America was not interested in the beckoning population, so we will be consistent !!!
      1. +12
        8 March 2014 21: 19
        Quote: de Klermon
        Texas and California - Mexico,

        Allow, allow!
        This is for what, um, considerations California - Mexico. San Francisco on whose fort stands? Yusovtsi means remember, but we do not?
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 22: 03
          There is still a difference between factories and sovereignty over territory the size of France, remember how and why the characters of Juno and Avos met? Though...
          The version is interesting, I remember Louis XIV just with such trifles and began striving for "natural limits" along the Rhine line! ..
          1. 0
            9 March 2014 18: 45
            Quote: de Klermon
            Interesting version

            The version is more than interesting, as in Alaska _ In case an unexpected illegitimate president in the city of Washington, a congress or a senate happens, not to mention the case if the people of California, in the person of legitimate authorities, ask about ...!
            In general, everyone understood everything!
    10. SSR
      +1
      8 March 2014 21: 44
      Quote: sazhka4
      Like a smart guy. But one and the same rake does not teach anything. Russia should, Russia is, Russia is to..By and large, we have never, just never got out of war .. Or from a state of war. There are too many volunteers, "Point out".
      PS Chassis and Boeing and watermelons and not only produced by Russia .. I wonder who will lose ..

      Kissy must have supervised these sisters

      3 hours ago3The brothers Klitschko and Bilogo had a common criminal past ...
      Blogs are actively discussing a photo in which the infamous Right Sector militant Sashko Bilyi is captured with the Klitschko brothers and their common boss, crime boss Viktor Rybalko, known in the Ukrainian underworld as Rybka.
      belarus.regnum.ru ›news / 1776035.html copy more


      So he can fill in as much as you like, but their rotten gut still makes itself felt)))
    11. +2
      8 March 2014 22: 10
      It seems like a smart man. But the same rake doesn’t teach anything

      A wise answer to the old anti-Russian was given by Osta BENDER: "... you will get ears from a dead donkey! ...."
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    13. Vladimir49
      +2
      8 March 2014 23: 27
      What's so smart about this reasoning? It seems, as if inadvertently, twice hinted about the voluntary choice of Ukraine's rapprochement with the West. Henry chose this edifying tone, so it seems more authoritative, he broadcasts superficial facts and is not entirely correct. But his main goal is to confuse the reader, claiming that Ukraine is looking for its own way, and Russia is hindering it. That is the trouble we share with Ukraine, that they themselves are in the snares. At best, Russia can already breathe. In Ukraine, there is a big disarray, so the "emissaries" are paving the way for Ukraine. ... clearing this path with the bodies of the same Ukrainians.
    14. +1
      9 March 2014 00: 55
      All this is reasonable only under the condition that the opponents are also reasonable and adequate.
      Under all other conditions, this is simply utopia!
      Based on his logic, it was possible to persuade Hitler to become kind, merciful and sympathetic. This is a new old genre of science fiction.
    15. AVV
      0
      9 March 2014 01: 45
      Quote: sazhka4
      Like a smart guy. But one and the same rake does not teach anything. Russia should, Russia is, Russia is to..By and large, we have never, just never got out of war .. Or from a state of war. There are too many volunteers, "Point out". For Russia, the only decree is the Decree of the President, the rest is on the drum .. I'm not a supporter of Putin. But if necessary, then it is necessary ...
      PS Chassis and Boeing and watermelons and not only produced by Russia .. I wonder who will lose ..

      Russia owes nothing to anyone, it owes a lot! It needs to be firm, decisive and very quick both in decision-making and their implementation !!! The interests of the state are above all, and the rest is husk !!!
    16. 0
      9 March 2014 05: 11
      why should the president of Russia know and share the dem values ​​of the Americans, God forbid, sort out his own, as it is correctly written in one of the posts, while the idea of ​​Ours is being beaten
  2. desiscia
    -68
    8 March 2014 16: 08
    As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk.
    And we haven’t even shot yet ...
    1. +9
      8 March 2014 16: 12
      Quote: desiscia
      And we haven’t even shot yet ...

      Well you are heroes. fighters. brrr .... answered you and went to wash your hands
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    3. Hudo
      +26
      8 March 2014 16: 14
      Quote: desiscia
      As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk.

      Not funny to you yourself? Two troughs of dubious combat capability were blocked tightly with rusty iron, so that they would not look for trouble on their own head.
      Quote: desiscia
      And we haven’t even shot yet ...

      Apparently because there’s simply nothing to shoot like a pea.
      1. +17
        8 March 2014 16: 22
        Guys, do not feed the troll, ignore and that's it.
      2. +4
        8 March 2014 17: 41
        Quote: Hudo
        Apparently because there’s simply nothing to shoot like a pea.

        Or products of its processing ... feel
        1. +15
          8 March 2014 19: 35
          Quote retired Or its processed products ...

          Sitting two Bandera in the bushes. Along the way, a half-truck with soldiers of the valiant Soviet MGB rides. Bandera hid, waited for it to pass, and one another said; Stepan, what about the shitty stink? Are you crap !? ? 
          -Ogot, Mykola! From anger !!!
    4. BAT
      +14
      8 March 2014 16: 15


      Oh, you haven’t even shot ... But what is there? And is there anyone? Well, maybe from the Maidan catapult. How are you yelling when a dung be smoked? Fat was dropped !!! Hero sala !!!
    5. 0
      8 March 2014 16: 17
      tell me better how much you get paid?
      1. Hudo
        +5
        8 March 2014 16: 27
        Quote: Siberian19
        tell me better how much you get paid?


        So who will pay such a pig troll? As they say - stale bread and borobola (potatoes Little Russian.) pig troll food. request
        1. desiscia
          -28
          8 March 2014 16: 41
          I’ll answer you a pig snout, I’ve been on this site for three years. And I thought that this is a site about military equipment and not nonsense of 15 year olds. Bitterly erred. stop
          1. +3
            8 March 2014 17: 09
            that's exactly the mistake. nature's mistake!
          2. Hudo
            +15
            8 March 2014 17: 09
            Quote: desiscia
            I’ll answer you a pig snout, I’ve been on this site for three years


            Be scared. Read the better humor of Pavel Prokopovich Glazov. He is an exceptionally talented person, and in this humor he writes about people like you.

            DURNE WENT TO TOUR (MURLO)

            Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.


            Staying THREE YEARS (!!!) on a decent site has never made you human.
            For such a period, even a bear is taught to ride a unicycle.
            1. foka-alf
              +9
              8 March 2014 17: 25
              The poem is simply magnificent, I don’t know Ukrainian, but everything is clear.
              Regards from Khabarovsk
              1. Hudo
                +10
                8 March 2014 17: 32
                Quote: foka-alf
                The poem is simply magnificent, I don’t know Ukrainian, but everything is clear.
                Regards from Khabarovsk


                When the Union rested under Gelendzhik. So one lady, a lover of the work of this comedian poet, tried to read it to other vacationers .... and spoiled her rest tightly - there was simply no end! Everywhere! On the beach, on the bench, in the cinema ... they simply didn’t give the aisle requests to read more and more. I was especially remembered as a beast-like species, whether it was a Tajik or someone else from there with a childish expression who asked those who interfered with listening to calm down.

                But the bastard came - the Galician fascist and broke everything. Half of Ukraine does not tolerate ukromova and the blue-yellow Austrian rag.
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          3. 11111mail.ru
            +3
            8 March 2014 17: 11
            Quote: desiscia
            Bitter oshыbsya

            It can be seen!
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    6. +4
      8 March 2014 16: 18
      Threw paving stones and Molotov cocktails?
    7. +9
      8 March 2014 16: 22
      Quote: desiscia
      And we haven’t even shot yet ...
      1. +2
        8 March 2014 21: 18
        the whole Maidan was yelling and maybe not bad words, but those words that are the cry of Bandera, and you will say that they are not
    8. +1
      8 March 2014 16: 26
      Quote: desiscia
      As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk.
      Well, what do you say - "chickens are counted in autumn ..."
      1. +20
        8 March 2014 16: 48
        Quote: svp67
        Well, what do you say - "chickens are counted in autumn ..."

        So while you wait for that autumn .... you can do something else! eg,

        In Crimea, special forces seized the department of the Ukrainian border service
        In Crimea, at night, Russian servicemen stormed the Shchelkino department of the Ukrainian border service. This was reported by the press service of the State Border Service of Ukraine. The State Border Service noted that the stormed the attackers used force against the senior on the change of border patrols, who was on duty and tried to resist, after which they seized the weapons storage room. The report notes that the armed commandos confiscated mobile phones from the head of the border guard department, his wife and other officers. Threatening with weapons, they ordered everyone to pack up their belongings and leave the department premises. The unit is currently captured by the Russian military.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140730.html
        1. +13
          8 March 2014 17: 11
          The report notes that armed commandos seized mobile phones from the head of the border service department, his wife ...

          what did the wife do at the security facility?
          1. uhjpysq1
            -9
            8 March 2014 17: 34
            sucked))))
          2. +1
            9 March 2014 09: 29
            Quote: rauffg
            what did the wife do at the security facility?
            ..that that .. led the actions of her husband.
    9. avt
      +20
      8 March 2014 16: 31
      Quote: desiscia
      As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk.
      And we haven’t even shot yet ...

      More careful with games on your computer. Suddenly, really believe that it’s true, and when you turn off the computer, then reality breaks down - you will have to call psychiatrists ..
      Quote: sichevik
      Fat was dropped !!! Hero sala !!!

      Herim sala !!!!
      Quote: Hudo
      Two troughs of dubious combat capability were blocked tightly with rusty iron, so that they would not look for trouble on their own head.

      laughing What kind of combat capability !? From butchering, the Ochakov hull was taken afloat and immersed in the fairway so that the Navy would not get hurt if they suddenly decide to play admirals, we do, but they are just like Nelson and can be left without eyes and hands. the polite people "from the unreasonable naval commanders who fell into childhood" took the matches away so that they would not start a fire.
    10. +3
      8 March 2014 16: 36
      and didn’t take off and wound up wink
    11. +7
      8 March 2014 16: 43
      Quote: desiscia
      As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk.



      Ships are flooded (if I am not mistaken, only one) for tactical purposes, most likely. Nakhimov did exactly the same when defending Sevastopol in the Crimean War. By the way, weapons from them were prudently removed for coastal defense.
    12. +7
      8 March 2014 16: 43
      Salo dropped !!! tongue Heroy shroud !!!tongue
    13. -19
      8 March 2014 16: 51
      Glory to the heroes of Ukraine, glory to the heroes, like you have.
    14. +25
      8 March 2014 16: 54
      These boats are not sunk, they are installed on the ground, this is normal ... well, so that you know. Still ready for decommissioning.
      How many ships were neutralized as a result of this action? In my opinion, the result is more than successful.
      Yes, and you can’t shoot, because there are no shells, you even organized the provision of blocked ships thieves, at least the BBC shows this. I understand that over the past 20 years this has been the way it has been done. Military uniforms issued back in the USSR. Thrown by maidanutami ... Hanged pissed mattresses. So pathetic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
      1. +1
        8 March 2014 21: 58
        human countryman wink even though you are in p.e.d.o.s.i.i.
    15. +13
      8 March 2014 17: 06
      Quote: desiscia
      As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk, but we haven’t even shot ...


      laughing kill yourself against the wall a mistake of nature
      1. +23
        8 March 2014 17: 32
        Quote: Sakhalininets
        kill yourself against the wall a mistake of nature
        In Ukraine, I’m not killing against a wall, but about a rake. I thought everyone knew about it .... what
        1. +13
          8 March 2014 21: 36
          Quote: bomg.77
          In Ukraine, I’m not killing against a wall, but about a rake

          Moreover, those that underwent global modernization increased efficiency by hundreds, if not thousands of times. Yes The main innovation is a radical change in the "combat" part of the rake, which completely excludes the possibility of stepping on them again by the same adventurer. wassat
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    17. +9
      8 March 2014 17: 40
      Quote: desiscia
      And we haven’t even shot yet ...
      It’s clear that they didn’t shoot ... Hands are busy. Observing subtyrums ... lol It's only the beginning. wink
      1. +18
        8 March 2014 17: 49
        Quote: retired
        It’s clear that they didn’t shoot ... Hands are busy. Sub-shells ... There will still be roofing felts.
        Senior Citizen You and Igor Korotchenko coincided with thoughts
        1. +4
          8 March 2014 17: 52
          Quote: bomg.77
          Senior Citizen You and Igor Korotchenko coincided with thoughts

          And he, it turns out, is the correct train of thought! Yes
          1. Mih
            0
            8 March 2014 23: 26
            Do pence in ukraine life is full of peas? Flatulence affects the poor from overeating. I sympathize. recourse
      2. +19
        8 March 2014 18: 17
        With a shaking hand, his fly is still unzipped
        Three times I tried to distort my shutter
        I wanted to shoot with a scribble
        Then from the backside, apparently peas broke constipation!
    18. +5
      8 March 2014 17: 54
      Quote: desiscia
      As a result of the confrontation between the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy, 2 Russian ships were sunk.

      You yourself do not drown in your own.
      1. +8
        8 March 2014 20: 09
        Quote: GSH-18
        You yourself do not drown in your own.

        Yes Nah! Aries in a ram does not sink, and fire does not burn in fire!
        You need to feed trolls in a special way!
        PS Apparently, the VO site has a good reputation, and the effectiveness of the impact on the minds ...
        Every day, several trolls from cyber-maidan appear ...
        1. Hudo
          +7
          8 March 2014 20: 34
          Quote: AlNikolaich
          PS Apparently, the VO site has a good reputation, and the effectiveness of the impact on the minds ...
          Every day, several trolls from cyber-maidan appear ...


          Yeah, they appear, rake in to the fullest, after which the Moders carry out the removal of the bat Galician game from the ring. Well, at least they do not ban them right away - they give them a hot-water bottle to tear them. And in general, what kind of craving is it for them - to drag themselves over and over again to where they are guaranteed to be beaten with arguments and simply destroyed?
          1. +4
            8 March 2014 20: 46
            Quote: Hudo
            And in general, what kind of craving is this for them - to drag themselves over and over again to where they are guaranteed to be beaten up by arguments and simply destroyed?

            They are sure that they bring democracy and freedom to a clogged and dark Russia! laughing lol
            And raking in full, they understand that the world has turned upside down, after which they quietly merge into scuppers wassat lol
          2. 0
            9 March 2014 11: 17
            Quote: Hudo


            Yeah, they appear, rake in to the fullest, after which the Moders carry out the removal of the bat Galician game from the ring. Well, at least they do not ban them right away - they give them a hot-water bottle to tear them. And in general, what kind of craving is it for them - to drag themselves over and over again to where they are guaranteed to be beaten with arguments and simply destroyed?

            It's called "rake syndrome"
        2. +3
          8 March 2014 20: 36
          Quote: AlNikolaich
          Every day, several trolls from cyber-maidan appear ...

          ... spreading by gravity? lol
    19. +12
      8 March 2014 18: 09
      I just want to ask one thing: the shooter didn’t fall off and the farther didn’t tear apart?
    20. +2
      8 March 2014 18: 33
      Do you have a "squirrel"? Or stuck with something?
  3. +7
    8 March 2014 16: 11
    Henry Kissinger - Americanos! So I decided to be smart as a representative of the chosen race !! already funny !! Enough, for a long time we listened to their nonsense and friendly promises kneeling !! come well or our time comes !! we are not the same, but you are not our authority !! we have our own will !! we ourselves will impose it on anyone !!))
  4. 111 soldier
    +8
    8 March 2014 16: 13
    Well, there is still a long way to the end of the crisis, but the fact that Russia has shown will speaks volumes! Yes, and Crimea has almost returned to their homeland !!
  5. +8
    8 March 2014 16: 14
    At the moment, it ends with the loss of the West ... the main task has not been achieved. From the point of view of international law, the authorities in Kiev are not legitimate ... let her curators quickly recognize the junta ... Russia wanted to sneeze at her ... Yanukovych on our territory.
    The main goal of the coup, to take control of the south and east of the country, has not been achieved, and without it, everything goes down the drain. They need to destroy industry and that’s precisely what has not been achieved, competitors are not eliminated, Crimea sailed away without even waving a pen ... the bases were not touched ... bummer. And hungry human meat, we’ll be honest, they already have enough, they don’t know what do with it.
    1. +6
      8 March 2014 16: 37
      I agree, the reunification of Ukraine is just beginning.
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      2. +12
        8 March 2014 17: 21

        agbykov SU  Today, 16: 37 ↑ New


        I agree, the reunification of Ukraine is just beginning

        and end like this
        1. +17
          8 March 2014 18: 11
          Maybe it's better ???
          1. +29
            8 March 2014 18: 15
            Quote: ratnik
            Maybe it's better ???
            Better this way))))
            1. +7
              8 March 2014 18: 21
              GO .... then you need to paint everything (Lyokha - good )))
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              2. +34
                8 March 2014 18: 26
                Let's develop fantasies further fellow
              3. +2
                8 March 2014 18: 33
                Quote: ratnik
                GO .... then you need to paint everything (Lyokha -)))
                To Lisbon? laughing
          2. avt
            +3
            8 March 2014 20: 18
            Quote: ratnik
            Maybe it's better ???

            A realistic but optimistic scenario, and not in the short term. For that, many thanks to the Party of Regions that they bred the Yugo Vostok of Ukraine as true thieves on trust, even more likely formazones - they got people into what they are for the Russian World.
            Quote: bomg.77
            Better this way))))

            Better, but not realistic in the short term,
    2. +9
      8 March 2014 16: 51
      Quote: Strashila
      At the moment, it ends with the loss of the West.


      In Crimea there are 20 thousand Russian military, - the Pentagon

      In Ukraine, according to the Pentagon, there are about 20 thousand Russian military. The tension around the Crimean peninsula is growing. This was told by Pentagon spokesman Rear Admiral John Kirby.

      The press service of the border service of Ukraine noted that in the Crimea there are about 30 thousand Russian soldiers and officers. Previously, the number of units of the Black Sea Fleet in the region was only 11 thousand.

      On Friday, US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel discussed with the acting Secretary of Defense of Ukraine Igor Tenyukh humanitarian aid and disaster relief assistance.

      The U.S. State Department confirmed that on Friday amid preparations by the U.S. administration to impose sanctions on a number of Russian and Ukrainian officials, a telephone conversation took place between U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

      Also on Friday, US President Barack Obama called German Chancellor Angela Merkel from Florida, where he is on vacation. The topic of conversation between the two leaders was the situation in Ukraine.
      Source: Details
      XXXX
      It is interesting to compare the figures - the Pentagon says 20 thousand, Ukraine - 30 thousand. Here is a good example "Fear has big eyes"! laughing
      1. avt
        +9
        8 March 2014 16: 59
        Quote: Egoza
        In Crimea there are 20 thousand Russian military, - the Pentagon

        ,, Not enough! , it will not be enough! " laughing Well, in the framework of the agreement with the legitimate Ukrainian government, we can introduce another 5.
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        3. +8
          8 March 2014 18: 25
          Quote: avt
          another thousand 5 can enter.

          In my opinion the maximum number of 24ys.! A !!! What are we, soon the territory of Crimea will be the territory of the Russian Federation !!! How many soldiers will want so much and introduce !!!
  6. +7
    8 March 2014 16: 15
    That's the whole key message
    which must be patiently taught the rules of conduct established by Washington.
    This is the whole essence of the United States, I’ll be brief, PNH, uncle.
  7. +5
    8 March 2014 16: 15
    Well, I washed my hands. Now on the topic, have settled, pads ?!
  8. patriot123
    +3
    8 March 2014 16: 15
    the author of the campaign decided to bomb us! Nah, not a ride already !! we are fed up with your red words are burnt !!
    1. +10
      8 March 2014 16: 55
      Quote: patriot123
      the author of the campaign decided to bomb us!

      the author writes: “Here are my ideas about the outcome ... 1. Ukraine must ... 2. Ukraine should not ... 3. Ukraine must ... 4. ... Russia should ... Ukraine should ... "- And the USA or the EU there, should or should not? And this is how to understand: “the root of the problem lies in the attempts of Ukrainian politicians to impose their will on the rebellious and stubborn part of the country” and at the same time: “Wise Ukrainian leaders will then prefer a policy of reconciliation of different parts of the country” - where do they suddenly come from “wise "Then?

      Only now, perhaps, the people will find and choose the wise!
      By the way, about the wisdom of the people ...
      Kharkov adopted a resolution recognizing the authorities as illegitimate
      At a large rally in Kharkov, a resolution was adopted by the popular council demanding that the authorities in Kiev be recognized illegitimate. Kharkiv citizens also demand that the security forces and the SBU disobey criminal orders and refuse to trust local authorities, the polemic correspondent reports. Protesters turned to Russia with a request to act as a guarantor of their rights and security. They also demanded a federal referendum. The adopted resolution will be signed today by the meeting participants.
      Up to ten thousand people take part in the rally; St. George’s ribbons were pinned on the clothes of most of them. People are holding flags of Ukraine, Russia and the “Struggle” movement, as well as the Russian Veche organization in their hands. The protesters placed a poster on the monument to Lenin, “Referendum. Southeast together. No to fascism. ” On the opposite side of the road from the rally there are several hundred protesters with the flags of Ukraine and Russia. People are standing in front of the building of the Regional State Administration, which is guarded by fighters of special forces and Internal Troops in full gear.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140731.html
  9. +19
    8 March 2014 16: 19
    The West of Ukraine does not speak Ukrainian. It is a Galician dialect that Ukrainians do not understand in my family!
  10. +7
    8 March 2014 16: 20
    Quote: Posted by Henry A. Kissinger
    Ukraine is independent for the entire 23 year. Prior to this, since the 14 century, it has been under someone else's, but always foreign, authority.

    What is he talking about? What is Ukraine in the 14 century? The old man survived completely out of his mind ...
    Quote: Posted by Henry A. Kissinger
    Ukraine should not join NATO. I adhered to this position seven years ago, when this question first arose.

    And not ... not quite yet.
    Quote: Posted by Henry A. Kissinger
    it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea

    Although ... not, he survived. laughing
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 17: 49
      Hi Vova! hiReady to help financially!
      1. +6
        8 March 2014 18: 07
        Quote: retired
        Ready to help financially!

        Hello Yuri ... hi Yeah, thanks of course, but we know these jokes. Say: "Tell me the number of your card ... yes it is blocked ... tell the PIN code to unblock."
        1. +3
          8 March 2014 18: 26
          Quote: chehywed
          Yeah, thanks of course, but we know these jokes. Say: "Tell me the number of your card ... yes it is blocked ... tell the PIN code to unblock."

          It didn’t ... feel
          1. +1
            8 March 2014 19: 02
            Quote: retired
            It didn’t ...

            Don’t be discouraged. Not everything succeeds the first time. Train, and you will succeed. smile
            1. +1
              8 March 2014 20: 08
              Quote: chehywed
              Train and you will succeed

              On whom?
              1. +4
                8 March 2014 20: 10
                Quote: retired
                On whom?

                1. +1
                  8 March 2014 20: 47
                  Yes, I started with this ... But then .. recourse
              2. +1
                8 March 2014 20: 47
                Quote: retired
                On whom?

                Here it is ... well, in general, the Cynic translates arrows on cats ... Can it be guarded? wink
                1. +1
                  8 March 2014 20: 51
                  Quote: chehywed
                  Maybe guarded?
                  belay belay
                  What is it like??
                  1. +1
                    8 March 2014 20: 59
                    Why are you firing me! Well ... beware. bully
                    1. +2
                      8 March 2014 21: 08
                      Quote: chehywed
                      Well ... beware

                      And then _
                      1. +1
                        8 March 2014 21: 16
                        Quote: Cynic
                        And then _

                        Ahh !!! Cynic! Hi brother. Brother. Bratello ... Sorry, I did not recognize right away. And here we are talking with a senior citizen about non-state sources of financing. feel
                      2. +3
                        8 March 2014 21: 29
                        Quote: chehywed
                        And here we are with a senior citizen about

                        It's better this way _
                    2. +1
                      8 March 2014 21: 12
                      Quote: chehywed
                      Why are you firing me!

                      Ugh! Sorry!fool
                      Maybe he didn’t hear? BUT? recourse I’m starting ... Why should he get involved? To start with compact parabolics, chel?what
                      1. 0
                        8 March 2014 21: 25
                        Quote: retired
                        Maybe he didn’t hear? BUT?

                        And you ask him. He is he. Resting on a pear. And I’m probably going away for a while. belay And one more thing. He seems to need your hut.
                      2. +1
                        8 March 2014 21: 34
                        Quote: chehywed
                        He is he. Resting on a pear.

                        belayNot ... Surely such a compact got sick - to paralyze the parabolas ... Maybe you can take it yourself, eh? I'll give it inexpensively. On the verge of profitability ... Yes, to hell with it! At a loss! recourse If you take it, then, as usual: "Give your card number ... give your PIN-code" ... Well, you know, in general ... Hand in hand?
                      3. 0
                        8 March 2014 21: 40
                        Sorry, I dont understand what you wrote.
                      4. +1
                        8 March 2014 21: 45
                        Quote: chehywed
                        Sorry, I dont understand what you wrote.

                        It’s verifiable to add.
                      5. +2
                        8 March 2014 21: 50
                        Quote: chehywed
                        He seems to need your hut.

                        Yes, no ... It’s me with a life annuity contract who drove him ... Yes Then he counted ... In general, I myself will not live ... crying
                      6. 0
                        8 March 2014 21: 58
                        Quote: retired
                        Slightly sick of such a compact - vpyuhivat parabolas ... Then I counted ... In general, I myself will not survive ...

                        Fuf, it seems to be gone. And from the very beginning it seemed to me that this was not an option. I just didn’t have time to say it, you immediately began to grab the bull by the horns. smile
                      7. +1
                        8 March 2014 22: 28
                        Quote: chehywed
                        And from the very beginning it seemed to me that this was not an option.

                        No shit it seemed to him that not an option ?? And who burned the whole office together with an accountant? AND?
                        Quote: chehywed
                        And here we are talking with a senior citizen about non-state sources of financing.

                        - whose words? So scared! And he to the heap with some kind of boxer, let's threaten. His athletes roof, or what? In general, Vova: prepare the guilds for the payment of the forfeit!
                      8. 0
                        8 March 2014 22: 37
                        Quote: retired
                        I’m starting ... Why should he get involved? To start with compact parabolics, chel?

                        Is this a commercial offer? I'm not at business at all!
                      9. +1
                        8 March 2014 22: 44
                        Okay ... I got excited ... Both are to blame ... Are there any candidates? I have a couple ... Can we discuss it?
                        Maybe professors on ...? Well, you understand in general ...
                      10. +1
                        8 March 2014 23: 18
                        Okay. Good night, Vova! Come on, go home faster ... And then something you were held there for a while! hi drinks
                      11. +1
                        9 March 2014 01: 24
                        Faster in any way, if only to nakosyachit strongly ... well, for example, to drown the ship. Good night.
                      12. +1
                        9 March 2014 00: 57
                        Quote: retired
                        I have a couple ... Can we discuss? Can the Professors at ...? Well, you understand in general ...

                        Effectively.Details in PM. drinks
  11. +4
    8 March 2014 16: 21
    how many do you think that the Russian Federation should. And Crimea, if it considers it necessary, will be part of the Russian Federation. ONE THANKS TO YOU HOLIDAY-HARVEST UNITED THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE. THE BEAR began to move but still sleeps when it gets up, I think you’ll feel bad again. the same as they did with their indigenous people. Your reservation for you ((()) ri cries. How much grief brought to the common people in the world. Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia, etc., etc. And you will still teach us the goblin what should we do.
  12. desiscia
    -15
    8 March 2014 16: 22
    boobies eta humor. and flooded it is true
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      1. desiscia
        -13
        8 March 2014 16: 55
        if it’s me then you didn’t have time to pray.
      2. +4
        8 March 2014 17: 24
        What attacked the guy, well, joked that Benederovets mean?
    2. +38
      8 March 2014 16: 55
      Quote: desiscia
      boobies eta humor. and flooded it is true
      1. +33
        8 March 2014 17: 49
        Or so:
        Not dung drown.
        1. +23
          8 March 2014 17: 52
          Quote: Stanislav
          Or so:

          "I do not ask how many of you there are, I ask: where and when?" (c) Vladimir Putin
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          2. +51
            8 March 2014 17: 57
            wink And then like that
            1. +8
              8 March 2014 18: 38
              no need to disclose operational plans.
              1. +35
                8 March 2014 18: 48

                Sergey S. RU  Today, 18: 38 ↑


                no need to disclose operational plans

                Let the brain break if it is laughing
                1. +9
                  8 March 2014 18: 56
                  Quote: bubalik
                  Suppose, maybe brains will be torn if they are
                  Babama, too, shocked by the Russian showdown)) there is nothing the kid stuck laughing
                  1. +11
                    8 March 2014 18: 59

                    bomg.77 (1) RU  Today, 18: 56 ↑ New

                    Babama, too, shocked by the Russian showdown)) there is nothing the kid stuck laughing

                    Soon there will be more "smut" feel
                    1. +9
                      8 March 2014 19: 08
                      Putin abused them wassat Today in nete came a photo of Cameron, too sad. laughing
                      1. +17
                        8 March 2014 19: 22
                        if they have such presidents, what can you do ... fool
                      2. equity
                        +2
                        9 March 2014 00: 03
                        bubalik RU Today, 19:22 ↑ New
                        if they have such presidents, what can you do ...

                        And what good is it, if you take it off, it’s still an oblique lamb that you don’t really see laughing
                      3. +2
                        9 March 2014 07: 01
                        I wonder what he sees there?
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                2. +2
                  8 March 2014 19: 51
                  But it would be better if the Americans attacked the Yankees, and destroyed Sasha.
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  13. +9
    8 March 2014 16: 25
    Henry Kissinger is a fragment of ancient America, stuck in the networks of his illusions.
    The world has changed.
    Russia has gained strength.
    And he is still trying to unravel his net.
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 20: 19
      Quote: sibi
      Henry Kissinger is a fragment of ancient America, stuck in the networks of his illusions.
      The world has changed.

      And America has changed the same. Either before!
      And now "They are stupid, stupid!"
      They no longer have Washington, Patton, Roosevelt. And it never will be!
  14. +7
    8 March 2014 16: 25
    If we give slack along the Crimea, then the first: we will remain without the base of the Black Sea Fleet; NATO's second base will appear in Ukraine (including missile defense); the third from their territory will prepare extremists already for Red Square (the same as the Maidan). Therefore, so that Americans and the EU do not speak now, it is only necessary to protect their interests and their citizens. And all that is written in this article is just a theory that can never become a reality, because Ukraine can not conduct an independent policy and has already become a puppet in the hands of the United States and the EU.
  15. +9
    8 March 2014 16: 28
    what kind of state is Ukrainian? colony usa last 23years will be right! our cause is right! victory will be ours! how they divorced us in the 90s, for 300 years our ancestors gathered bit by bit pouring plentifully with blood, and one humpbacked beef shrugged everything for several years. sorry for french
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +9
      8 March 2014 17: 20
      Quote: Siberian19
      one humpback

      Tagged is a Kerensky 80s. Shevarnadze, Yeltsin, Popov, Sobchak, Burbulis was also there ... in a word a bunch of merde.
      1. +7
        8 March 2014 18: 41
        Bakatin, Yakovlev, Kravchuk, Shushkevich, Kozyrev, Gaidar, Chubais ...

        Someone else is alive ...
  16. +3
    8 March 2014 16: 29
    This article made me laugh. I read who Henry Kissinger is. Yes, probably, in such an idealistic light the states see the resolution of the Ukrainian crisis. Dreamers.
  17. +3
    8 March 2014 16: 30
    Gee-gee-gee. Clever uncle. The politician, however. You can only agree with someone who, just like you, WANTS to negotiate. Otherwise, any negotiations only give time to gather strength with your enemies. Right?
  18. Karatag
    +1
    8 March 2014 16: 30
    the wrong country was called the country of councils ... before solving the Crimea problem, they would have solved the PS problem ... but no ... for them it is the driving force of the "revolution" and the catalyst for making the "correct" decisions of the proteges
  19. +2
    8 March 2014 16: 30
    I like. IMHO, the Ukrainians themselves are an amorphous mass. Where they lead, they will go there.
    1. 0
      11 March 2014 02: 23
      komentu - we don’t have yet who to follow; not all for the EU
  20. +3
    8 March 2014 16: 31
    The west of the country is mostly Catholics; the vast majority of the East professes Russian Orthodoxy. The West speaks Ukrainian; East speaks mostly Russian))))))))

    the lantern is not Catholics they are Uniates - this is a semi Catholic and not Orthodox
    1. 11111mail.ru
      +3
      8 March 2014 17: 23
      Quote: loginovich
      the lantern is not Catholics they are Uniates - this is a semi Catholic and not Orthodox

      Confessional differences are deeply poorer ... The main thing is that they themselves pray to the golden calf. American politicians mean.
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  22. +3
    8 March 2014 16: 34
    I did not expect anything else from this article. The meaning became clear from the first lines: we all must.
    Henry, Madafaka, we owe you nothing! And here you are a question for us. Do you think we forgot the 90s?
    Empire of evil mast dai, henry ....
  23. Yankuz
    +16
    8 March 2014 16: 35
    This is what our Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu said when he congratulated the lovely women on the 8th of March: "... I would like to say to reassure everyone: everything will be fine! Don't worry, don't worry, celebrate the holiday, welcome the spring," Shoigu said. addressing the women in the hall. "Everything will be fine, - he repeated. - We will not allow anything to anyone ...". And I am sure that after such words, our women are absolutely calm. That's what I understand! This is a man!
  24. +4
    8 March 2014 16: 35
    Wise Ukrainian leaders in this case will prefer a policy of reconciliation between different parts of the country. Internationally, they must pursue policies comparable to those of Finland. This country leaves no doubt of its full independence and cooperates with the West in most areas, but at the same time carefully avoids political hostility towards Russia.
    wise Ukrainian politicians? where to find them, except in the Red Book, as an endangered species. or Henry offers such politicians to export, already trained, all knowing. But will they be UKRAINIANS?
  25. +9
    8 March 2014 16: 36
    The article of this wise American was clearly late ... She may relevant at least a month ago. But by no means later, when the Natsik Benderaites had power in Kiev, moreover, it was seized by illegitimate and violent means.

    Now there will be no return stroke in the Crimea!

    As for the prospects of relations, they can be formulated in other, updated planes:
    - the removal of Bendera from power
    - state federalization (without Crimea)
    - legitimate elections
    But this is fantastic, Mr. Kysenger!
  26. +4
    8 March 2014 16: 40
    deer however.
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 17: 59
      deer however. I do not agree))). Horses are pedal. That's better and don’t argue.)))
      And the author of this nonsense, let the advice give amam and the EU, that's who they need this.
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  27. +5
    8 March 2014 16: 44
    Article Bullshit. One lie, drags another, and behind a donkey with a donkey for a carrot ...
    These are principles, not prescriptions. People familiar with this region know that some of them will not please one side or another. But now it’s more important than absolute satisfaction, but balanced dissatisfaction.
    Balanced dissatisfaction? Is this, sorry, in your language 3.14, "stick bumps on the floor"?
    Old Mrasmatik ...
    1. avt
      +10
      8 March 2014 16: 54
      Quote: Oleg Sobol
      Old Mrasmatik ...

      But it’s in vain, it’s not Brzezinski, this wolf will be bigger and trickier. He’s a very dangerous passenger, despite his age, and ALWAYS laid softly from the beginning of his political life. So what, and you can still learn the art of bluffing from him.
      1. +2
        8 March 2014 17: 11
        But senile senility has not yet been canceled.
  28. +2
    8 March 2014 16: 49
    Who will stop the Galicians from agreeing to the perchs near Lviv? In any sane situation, some areas in the west will remain under Bendera. The owners of these scumbags counted on that.
    1. +8
      8 March 2014 17: 33
      Recently I heard the opinion of the editor of the American edition of National Interests ...
      Still, their tower was torn off from impunity for a long time .. He expressed the position of the US leadership as follows: "If Russia recognizes the new government in Kiev, will sell gas at preferential prices to Ukraine, Will remove its fleet from Sevastopol and leave Crimea alone, agreeing on federalization, then we MAYBE and will not deploy our missiles in Ukraine and will not accept it into NATO "... This is the confident opinion of some of the congressmen and senators .. They really do not see in our country, let alone a partner, they and they see no more threats in us than in a monkey with a grenade ...
      1. +2
        8 March 2014 17: 49
        But what will they post there? Junk that still may not fly up?
        What is their "Pershing" or "Minuteman", who is the youngest of 30, against our new systems?
      2. +1
        8 March 2014 18: 20
        Yes, they are from the Korean missile, in a stupor to this day, and before us they puff until the first serious moment, or something they eat for confidence. And the authorities are alone, stupid people. So slap their hunt, by .... strategic missile.
      3. +4
        8 March 2014 20: 06
        This is scary. These senators, who believed in their own propaganda about the omnipotence and all-truthfulness of P ... Stan, can easily decide on a hot war. How many of these were already - who thought that the lazy drunken barbaric Russia - was flailing on clay feet, right now we are her ..
        And you have to take Washington ...
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 22: 06
          That's just the point ... After all, after Gorbi and EBN they cannot be reconstructed ...
      4. +2
        8 March 2014 21: 05
        Quote: Dikson
        MAYBE and we will not deploy our missiles in Ukraine and will not accept it into NATO. "

        Oh damn! Freshly tradition, but not believed at all what
        "NATO will not move east an inch"

        US Secretary of State James Baker. 1990
        http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikdiscussions/168465-rasshirenie-nato-na-vosto
        k.html
      5. +1
        9 March 2014 00: 27
        They are strange people. Maybe you should not treat the insane as adequate people?
  29. Sigismund
    +2
    8 March 2014 16: 51
    Given the time lost and the conspirators coming to power, by force. Most of Mr. Kissinger's thoughts are utopia and delirium.
  30. +1
    8 March 2014 16: 52
    judging by the fact that there is no mention in the comments that when Crimea was conquered by the Russians from the Turks, the song of signing the contract, Crimea went to Russia and only Russia. The Turks can take it back to themselves, by agreement again.
    1. +5
      8 March 2014 20: 18
      Nothing like this. All previous treaties of the Russian Empire with the Turkish Empire were canceled by the treaty of Soviet Russia - the successor of which is the Russian Federation - with the Turkish Republic of Ataturk in 1921. The existing borders at that time were recognized.
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  32. PMT
    PMT
    -17
    8 March 2014 16: 56
    The fact that our state lost the Battle for Whole Ukraine, as well as the fact that next to our borders we get a state-chain dog, is a fact! The question is whether our political players will be able to create a counterbalance in the East, taking into account the fact that internal and external "friends-comrades" will be pressing.
    1. +1
      8 March 2014 18: 30
      What is your state? EU, sailor? Oh, yes, their neighbor didn’t break off, and their neighbor was indeed violent. And theirs politicians have already got the whole world and friends can let them down.
      I would put a plus, but something interferes. ((((
    2. +2
      8 March 2014 18: 52
      I do not agree.
      When what remains of Ukraine becomes a hostile state for Russia, one should expect insight.
      For to any invitation of tomahawks, pershing and missile defense, Russia will respond with Iskander. which shoot all Ukraine with all types of ammunition.
      Nobody wants to live on purpose.
      And they don’t build industrial facilities near missile bases ...
      So NATO and Aggressiveness towards Russia is very uncomfortable.
      And we still have warheads in 3 worlds ...
      1. +6
        8 March 2014 19: 02
        Quote: Sergey S.
        what remains of Ukraine will become a hostile state for Russia,

        No, he won’t, for one simple reason _ the neighbors will devour.
        With relish they will devour in the name of great democratic ideas!
    3. 0
      9 March 2014 03: 26
      Don’t give me - gop!
  33. +3
    8 March 2014 16: 57
    Quote: Henry A. Kissinger
    Ukraine should expand Crimean autonomy in the elections in the presence of foreign observers.

    Promise, promise, promise!
    We will hang them later
  34. +5
    8 March 2014 16: 58
    Leaders on all sides should RETURN to analyze results and consequences, rather than compete in posing. Here are my ideas about the outcome, consistent with the values ​​and security interests of all parties:

    I agree, it is necessary to return to the point at which there was a dialogue and not a monologue, or rather, in 1985, before Judas, during the time of the WHOLE country. Then we’ll analyze it!
  35. Shkiper
    +2
    8 March 2014 17: 00
    The impression from Kisinger's soporific article is as if he was in "hibernation" while the Maydan Bandera members frolicked with "Molotov cocktails" in Kiev. Apparently he directly considers himself "the most cunning" Jew, if, having put on the mask of Cat Leopold, he set out to "hold Russia by the hands" so that, with the approval of the Americans and the Eurostays (and of course the Russian swamps), the Kiev usurpers-Russophobes Bandera would "soak" the Russians with impunity in the Crimea and in the South-East of Ukraine. It's not gonna go. There are no such "dummies". For any force, there is another force. On that was, is and will be the Russian land.
  36. sapsan2004
    +3
    8 March 2014 17: 00
    why are they all trying to teach, we don’t need their teaching
  37. +11
    8 March 2014 17: 03
    "It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have fallen off"
    The naive West was never taught the story of Hitler, bin Ladon and many other proteges of whom they set against Russia and thought that they would quietly sit on a leash, and only yap on command !!!
    Look at Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, if not enough, you would understand that the methods of destabilizing politics and forcibly taking over the economies of these countries are doomed, even with strong military support.
    Or do they think that in Russia there is no worthy successor to Suvorov? I am sure now Suvorov will need much less time to be on the other side of the Alpine mountains.
    1. +9
      8 March 2014 17: 52
      Quote: scientist
      The naive West never learned the story of Hitler

      Exactly!
      Therefore, our first task is
      Creation of an international anti-fascist league, where, first of all, you should invite the countries that suffered most from Ukrainian fascism during the Second World War or countries that have their many national communities in the former Ukraine: Israel, Poland, Hungary, Romania.
      Dialogue with each of these countries will not be easy, far from all of them play an independent role in world politics. However, in addition to government officialdom, there is a civil society that does not want to turn a blind eye to the crimes of the executioners Shukhevych in the past, or to the promises of a new campaign on the Vistula leaders of the "Right Sector" - in the present.

      The creation of a mixed government and public international Anti-Fascist League or commission on the former Ukraine is the first step of Russian diplomacy and patriotic forces in Russia.
      It is necessary at all costs to break through the diplomatic loneliness of Russia. And act not only by force of arms, as during the rescue of the South Ossetian population from genocide, but also by preventive political means and methods of popular diplomacy.
  38. +9
    8 March 2014 17: 09
    Henry has grown old. He laid out his vision of Russian history, but not prophetic. It is somehow inconvenient to talk about the history of the SGA. Racism, genocide, apartheid, slave trade, Maslow's pyramid, profit, profit and deception, democracy - the president is African American. Presidents - on the fingers, every fourth themselves and banged. And what is their "civilization"? The language is not native, but English. Scientists - Jews, Russians, Germans and Indians. Of their own only political scientists and provocateurs. Yes, what is really there, there is not even a national cuisine. Coca, chips and cornflakes. laughing
  39. GREAT RUSSIA
    +5
    8 March 2014 17: 12
    The journalist should be reminded of what happens to those countries that tried to find a compromise. It is time to grow up either with Russia or with the west.
    1. +9
      8 March 2014 18: 21
      That's something like ...
  40. foka-alf
    +3
    8 March 2014 17: 13
    He’s old already, although his brain still works, he has no strength to fight, and he can’t see a replacement.
    This is bad and good.
    It’s good when the enemy is stupid, and does not calculate the results of his moves.
    It is bad that the enemy is capable of adventures that will lead to blood.
  41. +3
    8 March 2014 17: 14
    I started to read and nafig. Complete nonsense. What the fuck is the bridge? Ukraine is a means of pressure on Russia. Means of irritation of Russia. This is the same entity on the map as the Baltic countries. Exclusively that would cling to Russia at every opportunity.
  42. +6
    8 March 2014 17: 14
    The old man blurted out about Crimea without thinking ... Only one example of Kosovo can question all the arguments. I am already silent about Yugoslavia, and it would be high time to do something about the hypocritical policy of double standards. And even any attempt at moralizing on this basis to reject with the words "you are doing this"
  43. +30
    8 March 2014 17: 15
    And yet I hope that everything should end like this ... Naive? .. Yes, very naive! .. But I really hope ...
    1. Yankuz
      0
      9 March 2014 12: 16
      May it always be so! God give it!
  44. +6
    8 March 2014 17: 19
    But what did this figure get out of here?
    He himself writes - "..And understanding Russian history and psychology has never been a strong feature of American political leaders ..."
    Well, goodbye, jet Henry.
    ...
    Reference:
    Henry Alfred Kissinger (born Henry Alfred Kissinger, born Heinz Alfred Kissinger, German Heinz Alfred Kissinger, b. May 27, 1923, Fuerth, Bavaria) - American-Jewish pederast, [1] Freemason, statesman, diplomat. US National Security Advisor in 1969-1975 and US Secretary of State from 1973 to 1977.
    ссылка - http://traditio-ru.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%9A%D0%B8%D1%81%D1
    %81%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B5%D1%80
  45. +10
    8 March 2014 17: 24
    it ends the Ukrainian crisis

    Appeal to the organizers of the Maidan. Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Teginbok, Yarosh.
    You have lived a bad life. You wanted to quarrel Ukraine with Russia, because of you blood was shed. You yourself signed the verdict. Now you are temporarily living targets.
  46. +8
    8 March 2014 17: 27
    And I liked this:
    "According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea."

    By the rules of what order ??? Installed by whom ??? What does the old senile mean by the concept of "annexed"? Annexation, in fact, is the annexation of another territory by the state ONE-SIDE (!) And nothing else! In other words, the annexation does not imply the conduct of referendums and other polls of the local population.
    So it's too early to rejoice for the old man. As a rogue, he stayed.
  47. +4
    8 March 2014 17: 32
    Tell tales to Gorbachev-Gesha angry
  48. +7
    8 March 2014 17: 34
    We remember your promises of the Warsaw Pact. After signing you, personally, have forgotten everything.
    Burn you in hell.
    We remember your promises under the Warsaw Contract. After signing you, personally, have forgotten all.
    To burn to you in a hell.
  49. chainik8080
    +2
    8 March 2014 17: 39
    Quote: desiscia
    if it’s me then you didn’t have time to pray.


    and you associate yourself with this freak in the picture ??
  50. +6
    8 March 2014 17: 39
    Would you rather advise Henry to your leadership: "Stop idiot, because Russia is the only country that can destroy us."
  51. +3
    8 March 2014 17: 39
    What ends the Ukrainian crisis ("The Washington Post", USA)

    It will end with the victory of Russia, this is for the stupid. All reserve officers serve Russia, and we can do what the United States does not expect. A surprise, but a one-time one.
  52. Glock -1980
    +8
    8 March 2014 17: 41
    Igor
    Hello, I read a lot of your posts, and I wanted to write and express my point of view to you, I wholeheartedly support the opinion that Russians and Ukrainians are brothers and in Russia they love the Ukrainian people, but you are like the prodigal son from the Bible who wants to leave his father for the enemy who wants stick a knife into the heart of Slavic culture and ethnic group, in your posts there is an opinion that Russians are aggressors, but ask yourself why your authorities are provoking Russia with anti-Russian laws, and didn’t you hear Maskali Get Osyudova on the Maidan, if your Rada did not openly accept anti-Russian laws This would knock the guns out of Russian politicians. I’ll say sorry about Crimea, but it’s a Russian city. this is a city of Russian glory, tens of thousands of Russian soldiers died for it and the population is 70% Russian, and only by chance, thanks to Khrushchev, it became part of Ukraine. Okay about the history, but Crimea is a strategic point from which NATO wants to throw us off, it is the only convenient port for Russia on black sea Forgive me, I want to ask you, your ancestors fought in the Patriotic War and your heart does not break from the fact that millions of lives were lost precisely because of our indigeneity, the “Russians” were given in vain, and don’t say that you are Ukrainian, because the Russians came from Kiev, and Kiev became the formative link Russian state, what comes to mind is a mother who abandoned her child, even though this son is not ideal and has many vices. With respect, Igor. I wrote this to one of the bidders and did not receive an answer
  53. +4
    8 March 2014 17: 44
    Ukraine has shown everyone its global failure as a unitary state. Its fate is federation or disintegration into 2-3 independent parts. It will depend on how the process goes. If according to the Yugoslav scenario (and everything is heading towards that), then new states will appear on the map of Eastern Europe. It is unlikely that they will be viable either.
  54. platitsyn70
    +2
    8 March 2014 17: 48
    American Republican senators Mark Kirk and Dan Coates wrote a letter to FIFA President Sepp Blatter asking him to suspend the Russian team from participating in the World Cup.
    American Republican senators Mark Kirk and Dan Coates wrote a letter to FIFA President Sepp Blatter (pictured) asking him to suspend the Russian team from participating in the World Cup

    © AP 2014

    “We ask that you urgently convene an emergency meeting of FIFA, at which we consider the issue of suspending Russia’s membership in FIFA. They deprived Russia of the right to host the 2018 World Cup and excluded the Russian team from participating in the upcoming 2014 World Cup in Brazil. According to Article 3 of the FIFA statutes, “any discrimination against a country or group of people is prohibited and is punishable by suspension of membership in the organization or complete exclusion from it.” “As we know, Yugoslavia has already been punished for similar violations on the eve of the 1992 European Championship and the 1994 World Cup,” says the letter published on the official website of the senators.
    1. platitsyn70
      +5
      8 March 2014 17: 50
      us senators fighting hamsters
    2. +1
      9 March 2014 03: 44
      Let the Americans first learn to play football themselves, otherwise they call a completely different game football.
  55. +8
    8 March 2014 17: 50
    Kisinger has been expressing his opinion since the Yeltsin era, and still does not hit the mark. http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/541/mqma37.jpg
  56. +2
    8 March 2014 17: 52
    In this particular farcical situation, Ukraine needs to be divided into several parts. I think it's two. Calm down (if they give it of course). And then, rebuild both economic and political relations. Now there is nothing to connect these parts. They are united by the name of the country - Ukraine! But this is too little.
  57. -2
    8 March 2014 17: 55
    With everything that happened. Shame on you as the commander of the Donetsk "Alpha". The governor was stolen from under your nose, and you are chirping something. Who did you study with, ignorant?
  58. +1
    8 March 2014 17: 57
    Burn him in hell.
    Here is the whole Brzezhinski naked - http://inosmi.ru/world/20140308/218343833.html
  59. +2
    8 March 2014 17: 59
    "According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea. But relations between Crimea and Ukraine can be made more calm. For these purposes, Russia must recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea."

    Author, please provide your statements from those years when Kosovo was bloodily torn away from Serbia.
  60. +2
    8 March 2014 18: 01
    What ends the Ukrainian crisis ("The Washington Post", USA)

    The procedure for the US joining Russia will end in hemorrhoids. You'll have to feed them
  61. +6
    8 March 2014 18: 04
    Today's video, guys are getting ready...
    1. +2
      8 March 2014 18: 20
      And the commands were in Russian, the commanders were taken from Russians (freaks). Have you forgotten about the "language"?
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    3. +3
      8 March 2014 18: 52
      Quote: Russ69
      the boys are getting ready

      Hmmm, there are just one or two lads out of number.
      In contrast, ours, not a brigade - just a company
  62. +5
    8 March 2014 18: 05
    Kissinger - Russia must, must again, you in the USA should already understand that Russia now does not owe anything to anyone. Get used to this thought, otherwise you are still living in the nineties.
    And also, once upon a time, your president gave the definition of a super power (in my opinion, very correct), an achievement in sports and in space, the question is - who delivers your astronauts into orbit?
  63. +4
    8 March 2014 18: 08
    Poland announced the evacuation of its consulate in Sevastopol. This means they are preparing a forceful action.
    1. +4
      8 March 2014 20: 04
      Quote: Dikson
      This means they are preparing a forceful action.

      And the only ones who know about this are the Poles, since they prepare it?
      Such concern is not typical for them, but the fact that they have nothing to do is certain _
      Suitcase, Station, Warsaw!

      Forgot who we are _
    2. +2
      8 March 2014 21: 55
      Quote: Dikson
      Poland announced the evacuation of its consulate in Sevastopol. This means they are preparing a forceful action.

      Let them just try, this will be the beginning of the end of Ukraine as a sovereign state. I think that bringing military units that have retained at least some combat readiness to combat readiness is carried out only to reassure the Kyiv clique. And Putin seems to have decided to go down in Russian history. Well, he deserved it.
  64. Dmitriy68
    +3
    8 March 2014 18: 08
    “Ukraine must... Russia must...” Everyone must do as we (the United States) want - is this how it turns out? When you want a lot and don’t get it, severe disappointment sets in.
  65. shalk
    +2
    8 March 2014 18: 19
    Lately, “turbidity” on the borders of the Russian Federation has led to the growth of new territories in Russia. The trend, however.
  66. Vlad1408
    +2
    8 March 2014 18: 20
    G. Kissinger is an intelligent and wise politician who has done a lot in helping the West understand the USSR and vice versa, only time takes its toll; other solutions are needed on the problem of Ukraine, which are based on the current understanding of the structure of the world and the events taking place in Ukraine.
  67. +4
    8 March 2014 18: 21
    As for the jokes.
    There was a political commentator in the USSR, Americanist Leonid Zorin.
    By the way, I prepared some interesting materials.

    So G. Kissenger asks Zorin:
    - Are you Jewish?
    Zorin: - I'm Russian!
    Kissenger: And I'm American!

    I think this is folk art, but I still remember it.
  68. Oleg77
    -12
    8 March 2014 18: 22
    Quote: bubalik

    agbykov SU  Today, 16: 37 ↑ New


    I agree, the reunification of Ukraine is just beginning

    and end like this
    Does this remind me of something...? In my opinion, Adolf Hitler somehow planned this when he annexed the original German lands in Czechoslovakia, Poland and Austria!
    1. +4
      9 March 2014 00: 10

      Oleg77 BY  Yesterday, 18:22



      Quote: bubalik



      agbykov SU  Today, 16: 37 ↑ New


      I agree, the reunification of Ukraine is just beginning

      and it will end like this. Does this remind me of...? In my opinion, Adolf Hitler somehow planned this when he annexed the original German lands in Czechoslovakia, Poland and Austria!

      look who's Talking fool
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  69. +6
    8 March 2014 18: 22
    I hope that in case of a military action and the arrival of such smart lads, polite people have not only polite “lynxes”, but also polite “Pinocchio”, polite “acacia”, etc. If the noise begins to wet everyone to hell !!! Don't feel sorry for anyone! And for mothers and girls to pull out those who swore allegiance to the “fatherland”, and now obey the Maidanists! Otherwise, they may not reach Lisbon, but they will take Ishmael again!
    1. 0
      9 March 2014 14: 29
      Don't push it. The guys rolled out the equipment for the first time in 23 years.
  70. +3
    8 March 2014 18: 23
    Into their mouths, sweaty feet with all this Henry-horseradish!!!
  71. kamikaze
    +3
    8 March 2014 18: 31
    In the video of the Shilka air defense system? what will they do with it?
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 18: 46
      For the first time in 23 years, they rolled it out for maintenance...))) laughing
  72. +3
    8 March 2014 18: 45
    G. Kissinger, promotes the policies of the 90s of the last century.
    Since then, the WORLD has changed, and Russia has changed too!
  73. +5
    8 March 2014 18: 49
    These old people are simply tired of politics. We also have one like this, he gives all the interviews from right to left. Thanks to his “perestroika,” we now live as if on a powder keg. Stop giving them platforms. Stop listening to them and reading their fabrications. They did their job. One received his thirty pieces of silver, the other cannot forget his ping-pong racket. Now we need to act quickly and prudently. All “sanctions”, no matter what they are from Western countries, are not worth what we can lose in the future if we give in to the demands of a gang of thieves who seized power in a neighboring country. The Poles, you see, are taking their “consulate” away from Crimea... Good riddance, good gentlemen. Just as they weren’t “the people,” they never became. At least the conscience was enough not to disturb others.
  74. +13
    8 March 2014 18: 50
    The youth are rising up! This means that not everyone has been brainwashed!!! This is very pleasing!!! Russia-Belarus-Ukraine!!!
    1. +6
      8 March 2014 19: 31
      +18 Addition and also young people... Why didn’t this happen before!!!
      1. Com T-64a
        0
        12 March 2014 20: 00
        All! The boys in Gorno-Altaisk will have a blast in the “nine-tooth”!!!
    2. Com T-64a
      0
      12 March 2014 19: 48
      This is what you should play on music TV! And not all kinds of homosexual stuff!
  75. +1
    8 March 2014 18: 55
    "...Wise Ukrainian leaders..."

    Mr. Kissinger, who are you talking about now??? I understand that you are talking about the current “leaders”? So they didn’t succeed except to issue more than three hundred empty decrees in two weeks. Yes... Wisdom splashes over the edge... laughing
  76. +2
    8 March 2014 19: 08
    Yeah, and we believed it with our ears open.
    "..For a huge variety of well-founded reasons, in the eyes of millions of people, Dr. Henry Kissinger appears to be one of the most sinister personalities that the earth has or has ever had. The problem with the perception of Dr. Kissinger as “evil” is that within each of We are sitting with little Dr. Kissinger, who did not have enough nutrition to grow to the heights of using satanic benefits that Dr. Kissinger achieved.
    Kissinger, without exaggeration, is no better than Hitler, and you have to be very short-sighted to imagine the moral superiority of Henry Kissinger over Hitler. Dr. Kissinger's ideals are just as deadly, but applied to a different demographic."
    http://mixednews.ru/archives/27813
  77. 0
    8 March 2014 19: 13
    Quote: mountain
    The fact that our state lost the Battle for Whole Ukraine, as well as the fact that next to our borders we get a watchdog state, is a fact!



    Provided that the West places its production, as it did in South Korea in Taiwan, later in China and Turkey. Otherwise, Ukrainians will gravitate towards their rich neighbor. The answer must be sought why for 22 years China developed with Turkey while Ukraine rotted.
  78. +13
    8 March 2014 19: 37
    A letter from the near future
    Dear Euro Members
    parliament! Madam
    Merkel! Dear her doggie
    Stasik! Representatives write to you
    Ukrainian village
    For Europe. Also ours
    appeal supported
    Ukrainian diasporas of the USA,
    Canada, Zimbabwe and Odessa. we
    made up a number of questions, a solution
    which is urgent
    not for a second!
    1) In 2014 year
    Ukraine got an association with
    EU, but for some reason our village has sat down
    didn't get it. Tell me - were there
    allotted money, or all of them
    Moscow stole?
    2) Instead of money
    we got 348 gypsy camps
    total livestock 9176
    man, by the spring they will be 85
    person is bigger. It turns out
    they do not know how to plow, build, and
    generally work. They are whole
    roam the whole day
    village, sing songs, steal on
    vegetable gardens and want to eat. Say -
    you sent us working
    Gypsies, but have Moscow replaced them?
    3) After the association, we wound up
    miners. They are black as
    bastards and do not speak at all
    Ukrainian, as residents of Donbass,
    only our local clerk (he
    finished three middle classes
    school) says it’s not
    miner a
    blacks from Libya or Africa
    Say - this is from somewhere
    Russia? They do not work, but
    hip-hop dance all day and
    play basketball like a movie
    about the USA! Only at the grandmother on
    instead of potatoes in the garden
    some kind of marijuana is growing.
    They say that a useful product, not
    Do these shit?
    4) Around the same time in the village
    some horseradish came and took
    half of the huts. Said that in these
    huts until 1939 lived him
    ancestors. Though he spoke on
    Polish, but this is clearly
    the occupier and dressed up!
    5) Last month on the bulbs
    couple Taras met with
    garna
    went with her to the hayloft. After 3
    minutes he jumped out of there and
    escaped. Found him two hours later in
    50 km from the village. He rolled his eyes
    drooled and swore that u
    SUMMER TAM is growing, sorry
    male pysyun. And such women
    us now in bulk. Local
    the clerk talks about some kind of LGBT.
    Is this a district of Moscow? And ours
    the girls went to the EU and Moscow.
    How now to our couple
    natural
    need? Do not go to Moscow
    to prostitutes! ?
    6) A month ago
    came to the village cheerfully
    painted trucks but
    instead of humanitarian
    help and they brought
    some kind of stinking slush with
    radio waste from which
    couple Tarasa pysyun always
    hanging and glowing in the dark
    green. You would be better for us
    moonshine sent!
    7) Grandfather Panas, who stabbed
    pig, drove her to Warsaw
    fat market to please.
    However, the fat was taken from him,
    fined for violating which
    then "quotas". The deacon says that
    Panas, and instead of Warsaw
    Bulo should be brought to Moscow.
    Dear members
    European Parliament! We demand
    deal with these egregious
    facts of
    lawlessness! Demand on
    top level make a refund
    fat Panas and natural
    luminescence of the pyramid of Taras, otherwise he
    already howls at night and horns
    knocks on the shutters.
  79. +1
    8 March 2014 19: 37
    And why the hell did this Kissenger surrender to us? His place is overseas. Well, since he can’t sit on his own continent, maybe it’s time for us to join them, establish our own “democracy”: return the lands to the original owners (Indians), monitor the observance of the rights of the Chinese and Puerto Ricans, and you never know what else will be found. It’s high time to move the fight for democracy to the North American continent, otherwise they have obvious problems with this.
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 20: 21
      For example, look into Alaska, check whether human rights are respected there, etc.
  80. +1
    8 March 2014 20: 19
    It's a pity that I can only give one minus am
  81. +2
    8 March 2014 20: 22
    Quote: sazhka4
    Like a smart guy. But one and the same rake does not teach anything. Russia should, Russia is, Russia is to..By and large, we have never, just never got out of war .. Or from a state of war. There are too many volunteers, "Point out". For Russia, the only decree is the Decree of the President, the rest is on the drum .. I'm not a supporter of Putin. But if necessary, then it is necessary ...
    PS Chassis and Boeing and watermelons and not only produced by Russia .. I wonder who will lose ..


    I completely agree with you. The USSR collapsed and it won’t stop there. Russia never had friends, only games with them.

    And I also want to add on my own behalf: This is my HOMELAND and I will always be for it!!!
  82. +1
    8 March 2014 20: 36
    Column of our Krasnodar-Novorossiysk, March 7th
    1. +2
      9 March 2014 00: 30
      On machine 93 the recording stopped...
  83. +6
    8 March 2014 20: 40
    There is a joke on the Sevastopol website:
    "Hyperborea
    Message Added: 08 Mar, 2014, 18: 35
    Post subject: Re: Started!


    Registered: 04 Mar, 2014, 18: 31
    Messages: 28
    From: St. Petersburg
    Points: 0
    Hyperborea awaiting critics...
    Add pointRemove point
    Obama is sick and tired of calling Putin.
    Vladimir Vladimirovich, put your phone on voicemail. The text is:
    "Hello. You have called Russian President Putin. Unfortunately, I cannot answer you now. If you want to give up, then press the button: 1.
    If you want to threaten sanctions, then click on the 2 button.
    If you want to discuss the situation in Ukraine, then click on the 3 button.
    All buttons except button 1 activate Topol-M intercontinental missiles.
    Good luck
    !
    "
  84. Sib. Uralets
    +2
    8 March 2014 20: 49
    They gave, or rather returned, Crimea to Russia, a huge thank you to them.
  85. +2
    8 March 2014 20: 52
    4. According to the rules of the existing world order, it is unacceptable for Russia to annex Crimea. But relations between Crimea and Ukraine can be made calmer. For these purposes, Russia must recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea. Ukraine should expand Crimean autonomy in elections in the presence of foreign observers.


    How can he and others like him not understand that the majority of the population is Russian, and the overwhelming population in Crimea is Russian-speaking. And it seems the people have made their choice. That's it, Crimea bye bye!

    How does the Ukrainian crisis end?

    Here's how it ends, as an option:
    “Tonight a plane with Ukraine’s gold reserves took off from Boryspil to the USA”
    http://iskra-news.info/news/segodnja_nochju_iz_borispolja_v_ssha_strartoval_samo


    ljot_s_zolotym_zapasom_ukrainy / 2014-03-07-9122
    So this is what a rescue loan from the USA is like!
  86. +1
    8 March 2014 21: 03
    If you don't have the strength to sit on the defensive...


    . .El Murid on Sat, 08/03/2014 - 19:54 News: topic War
    whoEl Murid
    what is anna-news
    like the Ukrainian crisis
    where is Ukraine


    As far as one can judge from reports coming from Ukraine, the initial fear caused by the adoption by the Federation Council of a resolution giving President Putin the right to use military force on the territory of Ukraine has subsided. Moreover, during this week Russian leaders have repeatedly spoken out on the topic that there is not the slightest desire to use this force - and only if force is used against civilians, blood is shed, then and only then...

    It must be said immediately and directly that Russia frankly missed the situation with Ukraine. Our unclear position, either at the beginning of events or during their course, which now only means that there was and is no Ukrainian policy. Considering the personality of Ambassador Zurabov, this is not very surprising. For the entire three months, the only mention of him was that he was recalled. Before this, he was deep underground and did not demonstrate his presence in any way. In fact, they recalled him, carefully not mentioning him by name - very impersonally. Why is it clear; his art in Russia is remembered, if not by everyone, then by many.

    The failure of diplomats and politicians is always covered up by the military, most often with blood. Someone else's and one's own. However, here, too, the position of the Russian leadership on Ukraine was and remains unclear. The situation has gone beyond all conceivable limits, and it is no longer possible to remain complacent. Unfortunately, Putin’s press conference shed too little light on what was happening, which can be interpreted rather as the fact that our reaction will, as before, be strictly situational. Giving all the initiative to the enemy.

    Such a reflexive reaction is very clearly visible in Crimea - talk that Russia stands for the integrity of Ukraine suddenly and instantly moved into the plane of actual recognition, first of the statehood of Crimea, and then of the possibility of its annexation to Russia. Such a rapid change in position only shows that it was not there from the beginning - we act according to the situation.

    The conclusion from what has been said is alarming - we hardly understand what needs to be done with the ongoing protests in the Southeast and are openly surrendering the interests of the Russians living there. Yes, there is not the slightest doubt that the residents of these regions themselves must go a certain way to organize themselves and take power into their own hands. No one will do this for them. But not helping them in such a situation is betrayal. Against the backdrop of Nuland’s direct statements about 5 billion thrown into “democracy” in Ukraine, we have every right to our own intervention in the situation. Moreover, according to Putin, Ukraine as a state has practically ceased to exist - it is now just a revolutionary chaotic territory, which is something completely different from the former Ukraine.

    In such conditions, it is absurd to talk about territorial integrity and compliance with conventions - but that is exactly what we are doing.
  87. 0
    8 March 2014 21: 05
    It seems that the Russian leadership is repeating the mistake (and even miscalculation) of Assad. At that moment, when he could still influence the situation with little blood and not very significant efforts, he hesitated and waited for what “Princess Marya Alekseevna” would say. When the situation got out of control, he became convinced that the “princess” did not even think of saying anything - she was working hard to eliminate Syria.

    Screenshot 2014-03-08 at 19.50.01 The emergence of a Nazi state on our borders means only one thing - war. You can’t expect anything else from a Nazi, especially since nothing is hidden. Everything is said directly and openly. At the same time, conversations are supported by deeds and actions - very fast and decisive. The SBU has already come under the control of the Nazis, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense are being crushed under them, the Nazis are taking over the south-eastern regions.

    Yes, there is no Ordnung, like in Germany, on the territory of Ukraine and is not expected - but in the current conditions it is not needed. Hitler needed to rebuild the military industry, the army, motivate and mobilize the nation. He had very clear ideas, tasks and plans. All the plans of Bandera’s supporters are “willows with knives.” They will not build a new Ukraine, industrialize, feed the people - they have no idea what needs to be done for this. Judging by Yatsenyuk’s actions, they can only sell off the remainder. Therefore, the only way for them to maintain power is through external expansion and channeling people’s dissatisfaction with the external enemy. Any other actions will lead to the fact that the population will sweep them away - in six months or a year.

    Therefore, it is simply dangerous to calmly expect the actions of Yarosh (and, let’s face it, the CIA), giving them the initiative in their hands. We will inevitably miss a blow that we are not expecting now. We have the same problems as in Ukraine - corrupt power, rampant corruption, social injustice, on top of everything else, aggravated by a very difficult national problem and the problem of migrants. A repetition of Biryulyovo, Kondopoga and Sagra is enough, a few targeted provocations with the murders of Russians and migrants are enough to cause oncoming flows of hatred, a few terrorist attacks like the Volgograd ones are enough for the country to stand on its hind legs. In such a situation, the still smoldering factor of Islamic extremism will come into play - which has not gone away and is only waiting for its moment. And finally, in such an environment all our “friends” will show themselves. From corrupt media to marginal liberals, ultra-leftists and nationalists. Considering the composition of the organizers of recent rallies in support of the Maidan in Moscow and St. Petersburg, such a symbiosis already exists; these people have already visited the Maidan and built bridges with Yarosh’s people. And whose side they will be on is a rhetorical question.
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  89. +1
    8 March 2014 21: 06
    The goal of the Maidan was to create a controlled destructive crowd. The crowd, which for three months was fed with drugs, zombifying chants, set against the police and “titushki”, was put on a conveyor belt from which there is no way out, led under sniper bullets, and then thrown into the demolition of the state. That Maidan, with which it all began, died a couple of weeks later - only blue flags with stars and incoming troops of Europoliticians reminded of European integration two weeks later. Already in December, the scenario began to develop towards the liquidation of the country as such.

    In Russia, this project is directly impossible - but it can be easily modified and adapted to our conditions. Instead of a targeted confrontation, as on the Maidan, in Russia it is possible to create a vast territory of micro- and mini-Maidans. In Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kazan, Volgograd, Astrakhan, Samara, in the North - with the same effect. The authorities physically will not be able to adequately respond to all threats at the same time, which means they will make mistakes here and there, and then the corrupt elites will come into play, who are very easy to buy - just like they bought Dopa and Gepa, who tore their shirts on their chests in Solovyov’s program, and three days later the Kharkovites leaked the protest. Does anyone really have illusions about the diehard members of the United Russia party - as well as all sorts of right-wingers, languid communists-Zyuganovites or Zhirinovsky liberals? Yes, in a week they will be telling how for decades they fought underground against the bloody regime, undermining it from the inside...

    We are no better than Ukraine - let's say it straight. There is no need to console yourself with stories about our power - in this case it does not matter at all. The war takes place at the level of consciousness and organization. It is enough to bring down the rusty “vertical of control” so that any heroism remains only in social networks. In the Ukrainian eastern regions it is clearly visible that ordinary people, finding themselves in an extreme situation, are unable to quickly organize themselves, especially when local and central authorities actively oppose this. There will certainly be small enclaves like Crimea, but that’s all.

    A classic situation arises - we do not have enough strength and capabilities to stand on the defensive and wait for what the enemy will do. Our defense is leaky, and our command is corrupt. Therefore, if there is no strength to defend, you need to attack. Take the initiative. Any other steps are a defeat. Not now, but a little later.

    We have the right and responsibility to respond to what is happening in Ukraine. Not because the people there overthrew the dictator - to hell with him, for that you can only shake hands. But Nazism came to power there. And we know better than anyone in the world what it is. We paid too much for him to lose to him now. And therefore, the continuation of chess studies against an animal with a club is a deliberate defeat. We were put in a situation where, in essence, there was no choice. And we will have to fight not with the Ukrainians - but with the Nazis. They have no nationality, faith, culture. It doesn’t matter who they are - Russians, Ukrainians, Armenians or Tatar-Mongols. They are Nazis, which means they are our enemies.
  90. 0
    8 March 2014 21: 07
    Quote: Hudo
    Who's going to pay someone like this troll pig? As they say - stale bread and borobol (Little Russian potatoes) are the food of a pig-troll.


    Guys, it’s not his fault, they get such news every day...

    When “Hetman Sahaidachny” was in Cyprus, their media wrote that he fought his way out of Sevastopol and took all the ships with him..... The border guards left, and then calmly by agreement - they were unblocked and they left. The rest are faulty to such an extent, especially the submarine, that they are not able to leave on their own... Well, now they will generally stand still, because the embittered crews of the two border ships told the Odessa residents that the ships would open fire on any building where they saw the Russian flag.. Therefore, let them stay in Crimea for now until everything settles down.
  91. Alexey
    +1
    8 March 2014 21: 16
    on the 8th we invited an artist (at a discount) to draw cartoons of our female colleagues. This artist told me that his good friends (also artists), like many creative intellectuals, went to the Maidan to sow great, good, eternal things... The lady was assigned to cook soups. She cooked and cooked until this whole mess came to an end. Then she came back to Moscow and on the second day she felt unwell. And it's getting worse and worse. I went to the doctor. After some time, the doctor diagnosed her with withdrawal symptoms. The accordion is not mine! I’m very offended and funny... there are so many united families, many have Ukrainian and Russian blood in their veins... why are we dividing? and there is no understanding. If we have corruption, then theirs is grotesque, but independence is needed! And the fact that their ancestors were smarter and lived together with Russia... well, just... wow... Thanks to the combine operators and foremen! under-reconstructed! under-directed! Lay down everywhere! and the Pepsi generation continues to divide and pursue independence! No words (only swear words)
  92. +2
    8 March 2014 21: 24
    Latest data - The Right Sector was given MANPADS from army warehouses, just announced on the news
  93. +1
    8 March 2014 21: 26
    How does the Ukrainian crisis end? If Mr. Kissinger slides towards the option that is being promoted in the White House, then most likely it will be a long, but still decline of Western democracy. Nazis and nationalists should not be at the head of any revolutions. And you probably understand this. The brown plague cannot suddenly become a fluffy white bunny. Most of the peoples of Europe remember this. In their memory they are trying to erase the memory of those who liberated Europe from the fascist infection. But history shows that those who remember its lessons poorly always end up losing.
  94. +1
    8 March 2014 21: 31
    <<<Leaders on all sides must return to analyzing results and consequences instead of competing in posturing....
    But relations between Crimea and Ukraine can be made calmer. For these purposes, Russia must recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine over Crimea. Ukraine should expand Crimean autonomy in elections in the presence of foreign observers. >>>
    Americans are great masters of first creating a healthy pile for us, and then inviting others to clean it up! The State Department coup specialists should have thought earlier! After what the neo-fascist Bandera maydauns have done, having already seized power in Ukraine under the leadership of the State Department, it is ultra-naive to expect that the South-East of Ukraine will “swallow” this, and, even more so, the RUSSIAN Crimea, transferred by the Ukrainian tyrant Khrushchev in 1954 to Ukraine, as the landowner's estate together with the serfs and that they humbly, together with Russia, will begin some kind of negotiations with this rabid Russophobic scum! As they say, it's too late to drink Borjomi...!
  95. +12
    8 March 2014 21: 38
    The crisis in Ukraine could end like this!
  96. skyil
    0
    8 March 2014 21: 42
    I wonder how many MINUSES you can put?! - so de bi lam!
  97. +3
    8 March 2014 21: 47
    Somehow like this...

  98. 0
    8 March 2014 21: 50
    "If you don't have the strength to sit on the defensive...
    . .El Murid on Sat, 08/03/2014 - 19:54 News: topic War whoEl Murid whatANNA-news like the Ukrainian crisis where is Ukraine
    As far as one can judge from reports coming from Ukraine, the initial fear caused by the adoption by the Federation Council of a resolution giving President Putin the right to use military force on the territory of Ukraine has subsided. Moreover, during this week Russian leaders have repeatedly spoken out on the topic that there is not the slightest desire to use this force - and only if force is used against civilians, blood is shed, then and only then...

    It must be said immediately and directly that Russia frankly missed the situation with Ukraine. Our unclear position, either at the beginning of events or during their course, which now only means that there was and is no Ukrainian policy. Considering the personality of Ambassador Zurabov, this is not very surprising. For the entire three months, the only mention of him was that he was recalled. Before this, he was deep underground and did not demonstrate his presence in any way. In fact, they recalled him, carefully not mentioning him by name - very impersonally. Why is it clear; his art in Russia is remembered, if not by everyone, then by many."

    completely here:

    http://anna-news.info/node/13964
  99. +1
    8 March 2014 21: 53
    I wonder, are the assholes ready for such an outcome?
  100. 0
    8 March 2014 21: 54
    Guys, how do you insert pictures into messages? Or point me in the direction where I can read about it. I’d be very grateful
    1. DMB-78
      0
      9 March 2014 06: 55
      Quote: dude_not_in_theme
      Guys, how do you insert pictures into messages? Or point me in the direction where I can read about it. I’d be very grateful

      press reply. fourth picture from the right. click and you will understand everything
    2. 0
      9 March 2014 09: 18
      Quote: dude_not_in_theme
      Guys, how do you insert pictures into messages?

      felt boots itself, but I figured it out. It’s not the image that you need to copy, but the link to save the code. and in general, Sashkes (numbered Alex) is a pro at this. contact him, he will chew it out.
      and for Sashkes