Media: Ukrainian frigate "Getman Sagaydachny" went over to the side of Russia

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On the morning of March 2, Ukrainian media reported that the crew of the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, Getman Sagaidachny, refused to comply with the orders of the new authorities in Kiev and announced that it was going to Russia. After joint military exercises with NATO in the Gulf of Aden on the ship, the St. Andrew's flag was allegedly raised. Later it turned out that the information was not confirmed.

Media: Ukrainian frigate "Getman Sagaydachny" went over to the side of Russia


Previously, there was conflicting information about the actions of the crew of the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, but according to the information of the English-language website RT, the frigate went over to the Russian side.

“The Ukrainian flagship“ Getman Sagaydachny ”has switched to our side today. Andrew's flag was raised on the ship, ”said Senator Igor Morozov.

A Russian politician noted that the ship is currently heading for the Black Sea after naval exercises in the Mediterranean. “The crew of the ship carried out the order of President Yanukovych,” the senator added.

We will remind, earlier it became known that the command of the Navy of Ukraine refused to comply with the orders of Acting President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov.

"Hetman Sagaidachny" returns to the port of Sevastopol after joint naval exercises with NATO and the EU at the Gulf of Aden.
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  1. +3
    2 March 2014 15: 35
    News of the hour, from the military commanders:
    Units of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine will not fight against the Russian Armed Forces. They are loyal to the oath, the people of Ukraine and the current president of Ukraine temporarily residing in the territory of a neighboring state. The Armed Forces of Ukraine do not support the power of pro-Western usurpers.
    copied from YaPlakal
    1. smersh70
      -8
      2 March 2014 15: 59
      Quote: diff
      Units of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry will not fight against the Russian Armed Forces.


      The Russian army began an assault on the Ukrainian unit in Sevastopol. The Ukrainians blocked the entrance to the unit with armored personnel carriers and are preparing for defense, UNIAN reports. According to information, the Russians are attacking the 39th training detachment of the Navy (a military town opposite the Lazerevsky barracks).
      A Ukrainian parliamentary officer was captured. A fire started in one of the buildings. A Russian KamAZ truck (without markings) entered the town through a transport checkpoint. The Ukrainians blocked the entrance with an armored personnel carrier. Thus, the Russian KamAZ was cut off from the main forces that remained outside the perimeter.
      The Russians have posted machine gunners outside the town and are threatening to start shooting.
      1. +7
        2 March 2014 16: 19
        The Russian army began an assault on the Ukrainian unit in Sevastopol.
        From the videos you posted, the assault is not visible; part of it is being blocked. And it is not clear that it is the Russians who are attacking the center. Do not try to operate with fried facts. hi
      2. +3
        2 March 2014 16: 40
        This is just misinformation. Don't believe any nonsense. I can film something like this and post it for three hours of viewing, but it will all be CRAP. You just understand one thing, in Moscow the Army is commanded by professionals, and they will not fall for this.
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        1. +4
          2 March 2014 17: 01
          Well, well, and in Berkut with a cocktail and a smoke - this is not a massacre in your opinion! You have already provoked the massacre, now reap the fruits of your stupidity, Berkut will remind you who provoked what.
          1. antiput
            -12
            2 March 2014 17: 11
            We will sort it out in our own country, and you host all our bandits, such as Yanukovych, Pshonka, Tsarev and others. Russia will be a country of bandits. There is no need to come to us. How can you not understand that the people rebelled against the gangster pro-Putin government - the whole world is for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. +2
              2 March 2014 17: 27
              Is the whole world behind you? Is this the one that is geyropa and yuesa? Your bandits are now sitting in your Rada and marching around Kyiv. And your bandits were told this yesterday in Kharkov.
            2. Field
              +1
              2 March 2014 17: 40
              Go to the amers website and write
              X * / do they interfere in the affairs of the "unfair"

              Where is your brain, meningitis?
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                1. Field
                  0
                  2 March 2014 20: 14
                  Vanga right? Isn't the gift of a psychic useful? while Ukraine is falling apart

                  I'm not the zombie here
                  A stubborn youngster from Bandera

                  What do you want?
                  Personally, just come on without policy statements
                  from myself “what do I want?”
            3. +5
              2 March 2014 18: 32
              Quote: antiput
              We will sort it out in our own country, and you host all our bandits, such as Yanukovych, Pshonka, Tsarev and others. Russia will be a country of bandits. There is no need to come to us. How can you not understand that the people rebelled against the gangster pro-Putin government - the whole world is for us

              You've already figured it out! Fascists are in power!
              And there was no pro-Putin government in Ukraine yet! It was pro-Gay and pro-Gay-European! Only there has not yet been a pro-Ukrainian government in Ukraine!
              Why didn’t you do anything when you should have? Why didn't you get up? Is your power in Kyiv now? Go kiss her ass, and in general:
              FUCK YOU FROM THE SITE PI3.14dobol!
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        3. +2
          2 March 2014 17: 38
          Take off the stripes, because the guy is a Bandera member.
          1. antiput
            -4
            2 March 2014 20: 06
            I have army badges, but you weren’t the one who attached them to me - Putler’s zombie. Russia is a ghetto.
            1. Field
              0
              2 March 2014 20: 12
              But Ukraine is paradise! Free State! Democracy with a capital D! (America applauds)

              Kill yourself, young man! I recommend you
              So as not to be tormented by mental anguish
        4. Field
          +2
          2 March 2014 17: 51
          Beat your head against the wall fool
          1. +2
            2 March 2014 18: 59
            We will sort it out in our own country, and you host all our bandits, such as Yanukovych, Pshonka, Tsarev and others. Russia will be a country of bandits. There is no need to come to us. How can you not understand that the people rebelled against the gangster pro-Putin government - the whole world is for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


            yes yes these are your idols tongue
            1. antiput
              -4
              2 March 2014 20: 09
              I at least have the opportunity to choose an idol, and you will all get wet from the putler - his efforts are enough for everyone.
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          3. antiput
            -1
            2 March 2014 20: 07
            I see you are an expert in this matter.
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  3. valerij
    +1
    2 March 2014 15: 53
    how funny this black-assed president is, he wants us to pay, his money will not rust, only this payment will leave nothing left of his democracy. It’s high time to show wretched America where its place is, in the dustbin of history. At the same time, give Poland a prostitute in the face, it’s a pity not everyone is on a plane they crashed, everything is not enough for them.
  4. +9
    2 March 2014 15: 55
    HURRAY, SLAVS! WE ARE ONE, TOGETHER WE ARE STRONG! LET'S REMIND BANDERA AND THE WEST ABOUT 1945!
    1. antiput
      -5
      2 March 2014 20: 10
      This one seems completely hopeless, apparently an expert at banging his head against the wall.
    2. best_ua
      0
      April 6 2014 18: 18
      They say here that grandfathers would turn over in their graves if they knew that the Germans were defending Ukraine from Russia...
  5. +2
    2 March 2014 16: 01
    Ukrainian sailors are against Baderism!
  6. +2
    2 March 2014 16: 16
    The army and navy are Russia's only allies. Since the 19th century, this statement has not lost its relevance. If the Ukrainian frigate raises the St. Andrew's flag, Russia will win.
  7. 77
    77
    -6
    2 March 2014 16: 18
    Quote: 120352
    Their quiet life was taken away by your Maidan. We didn't start it. Can you explain how it is possible to be an aggressor on your own land, in the Crimea? After all, he is Russian since 1783. Yes, there was a case, Khrushchev drunk him on February 19, 1954 without thinking he handed it over to Ukraine. But the people in the Crimea, as they were ours, and remained. They don't speak Mov. And Crimea itself will now return to Russia together with Novorossiya and Odessa. And it is already returning. The frigate Sagaidachny is sailing from the Mediterranean Sea under the St. Andrew's flag. And on it "our emissaries" were not. People just understood where their homeland was and remembered who they had sworn to. But you, a provocateur, will soon go potatoes in Siberia to grow ecologically pure wheat. Perhaps you will still get a plan for oranges or pineapples. Grow up - eat. But no - do not blame me.

    my friend, don’t trash our homeland and language, that’s what, not everyone in Donetsk wants to go to Russia!!! Everything will be fine with us if none of you come here, we’ll figure it out somehow ourselves, I have nothing against the Russians, but when my house is a mess and a neighbor tries to say something, then he’s got a smack in the face and orders to go home, and if the neighbor is very healthy, then a stool will help.
    1. +6
      2 March 2014 16: 52
      You would use stools against the Krauts who have filled a third of Ukraine. Or are you fellow believers? And we won’t come to you to steer you, but remember, in (namely IN) Ukraine, I have three sisters with their families, a lot of friends and other relatives. So I can argue whose interests are affected more - yours or mine.
      1. 77
        77
        -7
        2 March 2014 17: 12
        I also have relatives in Russia, but they don’t arrange Maidans for you, and they don’t carry out intervention! and you are climbing with your empire, rotten from the same corruption as ours, you still have everything ahead. And I am not for the E.S. AND the U.S.A. I AM FOR UKRAINE WITHOUT CORRUPTION AND FAT CATS BRIBEERS AND LADERS!!!
        1. Field
          +1
          2 March 2014 17: 50
          Do you know where the path goes with good intentions?
        2. +3
          2 March 2014 18: 47
          Quote: leshiy 77
          I'm not for E.S. AND U.S. AND I'M FOR UKRAINE WITHOUT CORRUPTION AND FAT CATS, BRIBEERS AND LADERS!!!

          Damn Leshy, where were you before? Under Kuchma, under Yuscha, Godzilla-faced? Or did corruption not bother you before? Do not whistle! And now Yulya the Zechka, who has robbed Ukraine to the bone, and in return threw a handout to the people, is eager to take power?
          You are against bribe-takers and hangers-on, but who now calls themselves your authority? In your Ukraine, thieves and bandits have now come to power. Are you blind and can't see it? Don’t you see the Nazis, whose ancestors covered half of Ukraine with blood?
          They came to take the last thing from you and dump you on America and Europe!
          Maidan sold Ukraine! And what the hell, no one needs ordinary hulks there!
          Open your damn eyes!
          1. best_ua
            0
            April 6 2014 18: 24
            My friend, we know better on the spot who is taking what from us.
        3. 0
          April 6 2014 18: 03
          Why didn’t you start the Maidan under Yushchenko and Timoshenko?
          We don't need to lie.
      2. best_ua
        0
        April 6 2014 18: 21
        Have you asked them - are they waiting for you in tanks?
    2. antiput
      -5
      2 March 2014 17: 02
      At least one smart person in this stupid pack.
      1. Field
        +2
        2 March 2014 17: 43
        Kill yourself, no one touches you
        1. antiput
          -2
          2 March 2014 20: 11
          Listen, you’ve been dead for a long time, because your brain was eaten by putler and ort.
          1. Field
            0
            2 March 2014 20: 19
            Is this what they tell you on “free” television?

            I haven’t watched TV for a long time, unlike you, you’re a young henchman of the fascists.
      2. +2
        2 March 2014 17: 47
        leshiy and antiput are pathetic, embittered individuals.
        How to build a happy life? You need to study economics
        and does not rely on false teachings. The country is bankrupt -
        An external debt of 160 billion will have to be repaid in at least 100 years, in terrible squalor and poverty.
        1. best_ua
          0
          April 6 2014 18: 29
          Well, there is no need to mourn us ahead of time.

          Ukraine has not yet died (text of the anthem).
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    3. Field
      0
      2 March 2014 17: 42
      Leshem And whoever writes Russian, do you speak and understand?

      Do you support the fascists of Bandera?

      Who are you, a twenty-year-old student?
      1. 77
        77
        -2
        3 March 2014 02: 35
        Well, come to Donetsk, I’ll meet you, look at my passport if you have time, you didn’t think that 77 could be the year of birth! My children are already students, but I write in Russian because you don’t understand our language!!!
        1. 0
          3 March 2014 23: 22
          Quote: leshiy 77
          Well, come to Donetsk, I’ll meet you, look at my passport if you have time, you didn’t think that 77 could be the year of birth! My children are already students, but I write in Russian because you don’t understand our language!!!

          Hello Leshy. Regarding language, read here;

          Our people don’t want war. Fight for the Russian people, against Nazism, against terrorists and Banders, against what is happening in Kiev. The Americans want your territory, they themselves will provoke and sponsor all the heists on the Maidan. Ukraine has no army, no armor, no navy. The economy is at zero. The President and that duck, leaving the country.
          These are people from the Lviv region writing! Donetsk You are ours...
        2. 0
          April 6 2014 18: 07
          Things are much worse. You can’t understand your own language. There are 300 words in stock, 150 of which are obscene.
          Don't strain, your belly button will come undone. If you touch the Russians, we will untie them.
  8. 0
    2 March 2014 16: 55
    Near Sudak, units of an anti-aircraft missile unit and a unit of radio technical troops surrendered at the first request of two or three dozen Russian military personnel who arrived there.
    A reserve officer stationed in the vicinity of Sudak reported this to Khvila.
    Positions, warehouses with weapons, military equipment and everything else were surrendered.
    Marine units in the area of ​​Feodosia and Sudak refused to surrender and are preparing for battle.
    Crimean Tatars and reserve officers are actively preparing for resistance.
    Let us remind you that the 36th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which is based in the village of Perevalnoye, could be attacked by Russian special forces in an hour and a half.
    The commander decided that “they will fight to the death.” At the request of the unit's command, reserve officer Sergei Lanshin reported this.
    http://politobzor.net/show-14262-pod-sudakom-rossiyskim-soldatam-sdalis-dva-podr
    azdeleniya-ukrainskoy-armii.html


    ??
    1. +1
      2 March 2014 20: 26
      Quote: UzRus
      At the request of the unit's command, reserve officer Sergei Lanshin reported this.

      Oh well, thank you! Here, by the way, another reserve officer, named Mamchuk, living in Ivano-Frankivsk, also stated that the Ukrainian Navy will fight to the death, until the last sailor request
      z.y. There was an article here too by request SBU, some leftist journalist sprinkled belay Has the unit command gone numb? And your hands have withered? And you've never seen a computer? Does the command also make requests to the personnel? Please stand to death! feel
      And the link is broken
  9. 0
    2 March 2014 16: 59
    What kind of confrontation are you talking about if in the Armed Forces of Ukraine a colonel is already a uniform and not, as before, the rank of 3-5 senior officers per private soldier? When did this army conduct any exercises? There now, like once upon a time, in the cadre of soldiers during their entire service life, if they shot a couple of three times, then it’s a holiday, there is no money for normal training, the same Hetman Sahaidachny went on a campaign for American/NATO money.
  10. +1
    2 March 2014 17: 02
    Near Sudak, two units of the Ukrainian army laid down their arms, Gaidamachny went over to the side of Russia - and all this without firing a single shot. What other “convincing evidence” is needed?, so that all sorts of Westerners would lose their “rights”.
    1. 0
      2 March 2014 17: 27
      Why side with Russia? They are faithful to their oath and we respect them for that! The President of Ukraine is alive and they obey only him and not the impostors from Kyiv
  11. +2
    2 March 2014 17: 08
    Yesterday I “lost” my former colleague, he lives in western Ukraine, he shouted to me that Bandera is a blessing for Ukraine, and we are not correctly informed about the situation in Ukraine. I had to show with reason what was actually happening there. He silently looked at the materials, information, and excluded me from friends. These are the times these days...
  12. +4
    2 March 2014 17: 12
    my friend, don’t trash our homeland and language, that’s what, not everyone in Donetsk wants to go to Russia!!! Everything will be fine with us if none of you come here, we’ll figure it out somehow ourselves, I have nothing against the Russians, but when my house is a mess and a neighbor tries to say something, then he’s got a smack in the face and orders to go home, and if the neighbor is very healthy, then a stool will help.[/quote]
    Dear Leshy 77, for 20 years of Ukraine’s independence, we are now seeing the result of activities - the demolition of monuments to real Heroes, attempts to ban the Russian language, Nazis with weapons seizing power. The question is which neighbor arranged all this for you?
    Let the “gentlemen” from the Baltics think hard recourse so that they don’t have to carry the monuments back in their arms and place them on pedestals, without the help of cranes
  13. +3
    2 March 2014 17: 17
    Quote: leshiy 77
    Quote: 120352
    Their quiet life was taken away by your Maidan. We didn't start it. Can you explain how it is possible to be an aggressor on your own land, in the Crimea? After all, he is Russian since 1783. Yes, there was a case, Khrushchev drunk him on February 19, 1954 without thinking he handed it over to Ukraine. But the people in the Crimea, as they were ours, and remained. They don't speak Mov. And Crimea itself will now return to Russia together with Novorossiya and Odessa. And it is already returning. The frigate Sagaidachny is sailing from the Mediterranean Sea under the St. Andrew's flag. And on it "our emissaries" were not. People just understood where their homeland was and remembered who they had sworn to. But you, a provocateur, will soon go potatoes in Siberia to grow ecologically pure wheat. Perhaps you will still get a plan for oranges or pineapples. Grow up - eat. But no - do not blame me.

    my friend, don’t trash our homeland and language, that’s what, not everyone in Donetsk wants to go to Russia!!! Everything will be fine with us if none of you come here, we’ll figure it out somehow ourselves, I have nothing against the Russians, but when my house is a mess and a neighbor tries to say something, then he’s got a smack in the face and orders to go home, and if the neighbor is very healthy, then a stool will help.

    then don’t ask us for any financial help, without which you’ll start eating dogs in a couple of months, not discounts on gas
  14. wait
    +2
    2 March 2014 17: 17
    If Russian tanks go to Kyiv, they will stop only in Lisbon
    2014-03-01 00:11:27
    If Russian tanks go to Kiev, they will stop only in Lisbon. The propaganda launched against Russia in recent years, in which Europeans were told about the horrors of the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe and about Hitler Youth fighters raped with bottles of Molotov cocktails, has had the opposite effect, and now the Russians are afraid panic and believe that there is no escape from them. The Germans are especially scared. They believe that Russians and Belarusians still have not forgiven the atrocities of their ancestors and are ready to take revenge on the Germans again. Oddly enough, Norway was in second place in terms of the level of panic. “We have a common border with the Russians,” says one officer of the Norwegian army, and nothing prevents the Russians from attacking us from the north. The Dutch are also scared. He believes that Russians especially hate the Netherlands for the sexual freedoms reigning there, and are just waiting for the opportunity to come to them and restore their medieval order.
    http://sevastopol.su/world.php?id=57987
  15. 77
    77
    -10
    2 March 2014 17: 31
    HOW funny is this the neighbor who is sending in troops right now!!! and as for the monuments, I’ll say this: only Lenin is being demolished, but if you consider that there have been no real communists for 20 years, then why are there monuments to Volodya the Bald? We have all the monuments of a patriotic nature like liberator soldiers and so on, they’re all there, they were going to demolish only the bald one) no one is touching the monument to Artyom and eternal flame. and in the western one too.
    1. Field
      +1
      2 March 2014 17: 45
      for example, Bandera and Shukhevych? eithm "patriots?"
    2. antiput
      -1
      2 March 2014 20: 16
      Their dead brain was unable to analyze all this. Where has this been seen: the occupiers accuse us. They protect Russians in Crimea, don’t make the whole world laugh.
      1. Field
        +1
        2 March 2014 20: 25
        What are you doing here? on a Russian resource?
        Why do you write in the language of the "occupiers"
        Go to Amer’s website and write how bad Russians are (if you know English)
        they will appreciate the cookies and give you tea
        1. antiput
          -1
          2 March 2014 20: 45
          I speak 7 languages, son, and am now on your resource because... I consider it my duty to give food for thought to all Russians poisoned by Kremlin propaganda. If necessary, I will sign up as a volunteer and defend my sovereignty.
    3. +1
      2 March 2014 23: 28
      Have you heard of Kutuzov??? These are not monuments being demolished. This history is being erased.
  16. +9
    2 March 2014 17: 31
    Quote: antiput
    the phrase "RUSSIAN OCCUPATION FORCES IN UKRAINE"!!!!
    YOU ARE OUR PATRIOT! THE RUSSIAN TROOPS ARE CALLED OCCUPATIONAL BY THE YANKS AND THEIR EUROPEAN LEADERSHIP, OR THE BANDERISTS WHO ILLEGALLY CAME TO POWER. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONDUCT COMBAT OPERATIONS, IF RUSSIA AND THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE ARE HISTORICALLY UNITED, THIS SECTION WAS ONLY IN THE 20TH CENTURY AND THEN PURELY TERRITORIALLY. NO ONE THOUGHT THAT THREE CRAZY AND DRUNKEN IDIOTS WOULD DESTROY THE UNION. AND YOU WILL HAVE TO ORGANIZE A SQUAD OF PATRIOTS FROM ONE PERSON, OR JOIN THE BANDERA GANGS. AND YOU, AS A HISTORIAN, SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH THEM AFTER THE DEFEAT OF FASCISM.
  17. 77
    77
    -10
    2 March 2014 17: 42
    Quote: pvv113
    Quote: antiput
    the phrase "RUSSIAN OCCUPATION FORCES IN UKRAINE"!!!!
    YOU ARE OUR PATRIOT! THE RUSSIAN TROOPS ARE CALLED OCCUPATIONAL BY THE YANKS AND THEIR EUROPEAN LEADERSHIP, OR THE BANDERISTS WHO ILLEGALLY CAME TO POWER. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CONDUCT COMBAT OPERATIONS, IF RUSSIA AND THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHEASTERN UKRAINE ARE HISTORICALLY UNITED, THIS SECTION WAS ONLY IN THE 20TH CENTURY AND THEN PURELY TERRITORIALLY. NO ONE THOUGHT THAT THREE CRAZY AND DRUNKEN IDIOTS WOULD DESTROY THE UNION. AND YOU WILL HAVE TO ORGANIZE A SQUAD OF PATRIOTS FROM ONE PERSON, OR JOIN THE BANDERA GANGS. AND YOU, AS A HISTORIAN, SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY DID WITH THEM AFTER THE DEFEAT OF FASCISM.
    )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    are you sure that everyone in the southeast wants unity with Russia, you watched yesterday’s report about what was happening in Donetsk, I’ll tell you that 3 of my neighbors went there too
    2 inmates and a junkie, only because they were told that they would be given weapons against Bender and would be collected into self-defense units. Well, to make Makhnovists out of them, so they rushed. If you consider that there were half of them + provocateurs plus those who were bribed (titushki), then it turns out that there were about 3 thousand normal people! based on the fact that, according to the media, there were about 10-12 thousand at the rally! and the rest need to work to support their families, there will be elections, we’ll go and check the boxes as required, we need to go to the military registration and enlistment office, don’t scare us. We have 5 nuclear facilities, have you forgotten about this, or your imperial ambitions have closed your eyes. Well, whoever freaks out there at the station, of course, we’ll get it, but there won’t be enough space for you either!
    1. Field
      +2
      2 March 2014 17: 48
      Quote: leshiy 77
      Don’t frighten us. We have 5 nuclear facilities, have you forgotten about this, or your imperial ambitions have closed your eyes. Well, whoever freaks out there at the station, of course, we’ll get it, but there won’t be enough space for you either!


      Oh, I've heard enough of terrorists))

      Don’t lie about our objects, we’ll take control hi
    2. +3
      2 March 2014 20: 35
      Quote: leshiy 77
      are you sure that everyone in the southeast wants unity with Russia

      It seems like no one is forcing you to Russia, you’ll decide for yourself
      Quote: leshiy 77
      We have 5 nuclear facilities, have you forgotten about this, or your imperial ambitions have closed your eyes. Well, whoever freaks out there at the station, of course, we’ll get it, but there won’t be enough space for you either!

      What, to spite my mother I’ll freeze my ears?
    3. +6
      2 March 2014 21: 02
      I WATCH THE NEWS ON DIFFERENT SITES, BUT SOMETHING THE SYRINGES WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE PREMISES IN BUCKETS ONLY AFTER THE BANDERLOGS.
    4. 0
      2 March 2014 23: 31
      Officially you have elections in 2015. You won’t live to see them if “no one comes to you”
  18. 77
    77
    -9
    2 March 2014 17: 47
    and here’s another thing for historical reference, in case anyone here has forgotten that Rus' was originally from Kiev. And we accepted Christianity before you. And there was no Moscow. So let’s not stir up history. and for 300 years the Tatars trampled Rus' and after that I find it difficult to say about the purely Russians who exist!!!
    1. Field
      +4
      2 March 2014 17: 55
      Of course, of course, and there were also ancient Ukrainians - they still hunted mammoths and haven’t changed much since then?
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    2. +2
      2 March 2014 18: 52
      Quote: leshiy 77
      For 300 years the Tatars trampled Rus' and after that I find it difficult to say about the purely Russians who exist!!!

      I don’t want to upset you, but Kyiv was actually in the Principality of Lithuania...
      1. +2
        2 March 2014 19: 59
        And not only)
    3. +3
      2 March 2014 18: 58
      Quote: leshiy 77
      and here’s another thing for historical reference, in case anyone here has forgotten that Rus' was originally from Kiev. And we accepted Christianity before you. And there was no Moscow. So let’s not stir up history. and for 300 years the Tatars trampled Rus' and after that I find it difficult to say about the purely Russians who exist!!!

      Read the story carefully! Kievan Rus is 1500 years old, and Ukraine is about 400!
      And a picture to refresh your memory!
    4. antiput
      -2
      2 March 2014 20: 17
      Botox dwarf, is he Russian?
    5. 0
      April 6 2014 18: 30
      For your information, Rus' was not trampled by the Tatars, but you were very strong and the Tatars reached all the way to Hungary, Poland and they reached the Balkan Peninsula in Croatia.
      Scientists checked bones in old graves in Russia before the Tatar invasion for genetic analysis and found 2% of the Mongol trace, and when they checked bones from the graves of the 16th century, after the Tatar invasion, they found 0.8% of the Mongol trace. That's bad luck.
      And long before the Tatars, on the territory of Ukraine, 4-5 centuries, there were Bulgars, and the capital was in Baltavar. Poltava is Baltavar.
      And only then the Russians (Rurikovichs) came from the north with the Norwegian Oleg and liberated the Bulgar fortress of Kiev from the proteges of the Bulgars, Oskold and Dir.
      To invent a false story for yourself is to deceive yourself.
      I, too, may not like something in my own story, but you can’t change it, you can’t make it up, but we all have to get to the bottom of the TRUTH together.
      For the sake of their COMMON ancestors.
  19. +6
    2 March 2014 17: 52
    Something like this..

    Bandera Discussion Technology
    Venue: social networks, websites, blogs, news feeds, comments in
    video broadcasts, YouTube, YouTube, etc.
    * Comments must contain supporting pictures, links, videos, even if just
    cut out of the general context.
    * Use cultural speech in conversations, be friendly and welcoming
    * Do not get fooled by provocations, do not respond with aggression to aggression
    * An attack on a post, video, comment is carried out purposefully, in groups of 10-20 people, alone
    you will simply be crushed by facts
    * Force your opponent to use a mat and other obscene expressions by any actions
    * Constantly indicate to the opponent that he is behaving uncivilized
    * If your opponent crushes your lies with facts, retaliate by focusing on his grammatical errors, this
    demoralizes and shames your opponent, hiding the fact of your lie
    * Try to cause a split between groups of opponents, for example, people call for defense
    Donetsk, and you write that you are from Donetsk and there is no point in fighting, it will only get worse
    * Do not use the words power grab, Bandera, militants, terrorists, extremists, Nazis, nationalists.
    Always say - the people of Ukraine
    * Do not write that we are for Europe, write that we are for united Ukraine
    *Do not use language differences. The southeast and Crimea writes “in Ukraine” - agree with them, don’t
    make discord in this.
    * Try to write in Russian, Ukrainian speech immediately repels many.
    * Try to convince them that they cheated or cheated
    * Try to convince that Russia only needs resources and labor from Ukraine
    * Try to convince that everything is bad in Russia, use photos of outback areas, old buildings, landfills, ideal
    Suitable demotivators about old women, pensions, hungry children and other facts of human pity
    * Try to convince them that no one is coming to them, that no one is seizing or demolishing anything from them
    going
    * Show as much as possible how Yanukovych and the Party of Regions deputies lived, emphasizing that this is all
    stolen people, your money
    * Prove to them that Ukraine will be strong only together, intimidate them individually that Russia is from the South-
    East and Crimea will make them its slaves or something else bad
    * If your opponent shows you the successes and achievements of Russia, reproach your opponent for being subjected to
    Kremlin propaganda. Convince your opponent that you supposedly have relatives in Russia who are terrified
    from the poverty and misery of Russia
    * Do the same in the same way, only in reverse, if your opponent shows you the facts
    poverty and devastation in Europe, the EU or the USA
    * Try to convince as much as possible that Maidan is supported by both the South-East and Crimea, they say you have friends there,
    relatives who are for the Maidan.
    * If your opponent can prove to you that the National Bank is controlled by the United States, emphasize that
    This is done in all countries for the convenience of the economy. Also emphasize that the US and EU want to help
    Ukraine and they are very worried about it.

    This interesting information came from people who were embedded in the Internet hundred of the Right
    sector"

    So, there is no need to engage in provocation and hysteria. I would like to give balanced, CLEARLY and RELIABLY verified facts here. There is a lot of unnecessary material in this topic. We have to sift through a lot of useless facts and rumors...
    I have the honor wink
  20. 0
    2 March 2014 18: 22
    Good news! Let's wait for the others!
  21. s_eight
    -5
    2 March 2014 18: 27
    My heart bleeds from the “Rassei” damn it, the Slovenian brothers. As I understand it, the worse it is in my homeland, Ukraine, the warmer your soul is, Russians. “Here we are, here we are...”
    Guys, is everything all right in your homeland? Is your guarantor guiding you correctly? Is there total corruption? Are Chubais-Serdyukov graying? Oh yes, they are not guilty. But for the crests, a bloodbath began. Damn the news.
    Just answer me, poor me, is there life in Russia beyond the Moscow Ring Road? Have you sorted out the Caucasians and Chechnya?
    Have they found those responsible for the subway explosions and house bombings? And KURSK itself “drowned” (a worthy answer from the PRESIDENT - you can be proud) or the “hacks” are to blame.
    And as for Russian tourists... Be more restrained in your statements that Russian tourists in CRIMEA are not tourists but “hosts”. These owners don’t even bother to throw the garbage in the trash can (“Oh, fuck, I’m at home”).
    And where are they, Russian tourists, loved and expected without shuddering?
    Our grandfathers fought for the Motherland, whose name is the USSR, and you, just like jackals, are ready to tear each other apart. If it starts, God forbid and fool the fools, and if it starts, I’m 36 years old, I’ll die for my Motherland. But your children, brothers, or even one of you, will die to the invaders, following the lead of your “wise” and “far-sighted”.
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    2. Baron_al
      +4
      2 March 2014 18: 49
      Durik, who needs you?
      If you want to die for your homeland, go to the Maidan to disperse Bandera’s jackals. Why are you spitting snot here?
      Everything is fine with us, we have the Olympics. And you have Nazis running around with machine guns and raping your women. So go die for the people.
      1. best_ua
        0
        April 6 2014 18: 52
        They only say this on Russian television. But in Ukraine there are no Nazis, unlike RUSSIA. National identity is yes, but there is no Nazism.
    3. antiput
      -1
      2 March 2014 19: 54
      They are Putin's zombies, poisoned ort - they will not understand YOU. THE WHOLE WORLD HATES YOU BECAUSE OF THE PUTTER, you have no place in g8, no one comes to see you in Sochi anymore - everyone refuses
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    6. Debryansk
      +1
      2 March 2014 20: 24
      ...............deleted by moderator Apollo Bendera has come out, they write all sorts of crap, we will crush you......deleted both in the east and in the west there are still Ukraine.
      1. 0
        2 March 2014 20: 38
        I bring to the attention of visitors who have unsubscribed or are planning to unsubscribe in this thread. Only within the framework of VO rules. Otherwise, comments will be deleted with subsequent warning.
        There will be no more warnings and exhortations.
        1. 0
          2 March 2014 20: 58
          Well then, shut your mouth to "ANTIPLUT", otherwise I'm running out of cons...
  22. Leshka
    0
    2 March 2014 18: 34
    I can't believe
  23. +4
    2 March 2014 18: 40
    Quote: leshiy 77
    and here’s another thing for historical reference, in case anyone here has forgotten that Rus' was originally from Kiev. And we accepted Christianity before you. And there was no Moscow. So let’s not stir up history. and for 300 years the Tatars trampled Rus' and after that I find it difficult to say about the purely Russians who exist!!!

    Well, firstly, the Tatars did not trample Rus' for 300 years, it was a fairy tale of the Romanovs, and it was born already in the post-Petrine era... And the adoption of Christianity in Rus' actually did not happen as it was drummed into us... Many researchers are inclined to believe that initially Rus' was baptized according to to the Latin canon (may Christians forgive me) by Saint Adalbert, Princess Olga in Constantinople was already baptized and with her confessor, but let’s not get into religion, it’s long.

    I’ll tell you more - Moscow did not exist in 1380, it was on the site of the future Moscow that a historical battle took place, known as the Battle of Kulikovo, and in ancient chronicles - the Battle of Kulishki...

    The main mistake in your post is that we accepted...you accepted... We are one single whole, Rus', Russia, whatever... The dream of the West has always been to divide the Slavs and set them against each other...
    And so Ukrainian historians glorify Hetman Sagaidachny, who faithfully served the Polish Crown all his life, who more than once carried out such bloody campaigns that in ancient chronicles they were not called anything other than massacres... And these campaigns were at the same time with the Poles against Rus'... For me, so Ivan Stepanovich Mazepa, despite everything, brought much more benefits to the Ukrainian lands than Sagaidachny. How many schools and cities he built, such as Uman, and especially schools...

    But in the history textbooks of Ukraine there is no place for the defense of Chigirin, this Borodino of the 17th century... Hetman Ivan Samoilovich became the soul of the defense of the Russian land from the huge Turkish army marching on the Russian lands... It was he who taught the 16-year-old young tsar the wisdom of war, became friends with the young Patrick Gordon. And on the Turkish side, the Cossacks of the Hetman Yuri Khmelnitsky, son of Bogdan, proclaimed by the Turks, acted. Gordon and three Ukrainian Cossacks blew up the fortress, but it did not fall to the Turks... After the failure at Chigirin, Turkey abandoned its claims to Ukraine... You don’t have Ivan Samoilovich in your textbook, but how many battles did he win?

    Let's really not stir up History.
  24. Baron_al
    +2
    2 March 2014 18: 40
    Quote: leshiy 77
    and here’s another thing for historical reference, in case anyone here has forgotten that Rus' was originally from Kiev. And we accepted Christianity before you. And there was no Moscow. So let’s not stir up history. and for 300 years the Tatars trampled Rus' and after that I find it difficult to say about the purely Russians who exist!!!


    Dear Bandera friend, initially you Galicians had nothing to do with Kievan Rus, this is for your reference.
    For 300 years the Tatars trampled Kievan Rus, this is for your reference.
    The Galicians were trampled by Poles, Austrians, Tatars, Turks and all and sundry - even the Wallachians and Hungarians, this is also for reference.
    you even have a faith - which was trampled on you... by the Greek Catholics.
    whether the southeast will support it or not is not for you and not for your friends to decide. everything will be decided by a referendum.
    We don’t need anything from Ukraine, this is also for your reference.
    if you want to live in shit, live.
    1. best_ua
      0
      April 6 2014 18: 58
      So tell dad Putin to take the tanks and the gang away from the borders - if you don’t need anything.
  25. -1
    2 March 2014 18: 52
    Bay of Arden? Where is it? And has anyone seen "Hetman" under the St. Andrew's flag? Or do they just want to see?
  26. 0
    2 March 2014 19: 01
    The fact that Sagaidachny went over to the side of Russia is a fake, with the aim of raising the morale of armchair generals, who are simply peeing with delight that Ukraine and Russia are on the verge of a conflict with each other. It was as if this was all they had been waiting for. They say war is fun, let's stock up on popcorn, lol....
  27. +4
    2 March 2014 19: 06
    Quote: s_eight
    My heart bleeds from the “Rassei” damn it, the Slovenian brothers. As I understand it, the worse it is in my homeland, Ukraine, the warmer your soul is, Russians. “Here we are, here we are...”


    Can you provide a link to what you are reading, I was already interested... Russia doesn’t need a seething hot spot, not even a huge territory near its border... Europe is already in shock at what it has done, but they were warned...

    Yushchenko and then Yanukovych long and stubbornly led Ukraine to what has now happened.... They didn’t lag behind on the ground, everyone considered themselves temporary workers, they tore as hard as they could from bottom to top. Yanukovych himself took all possible and impossible measures to convince the Ukrainians that only Europe will help us... But when he read the demands of Europe and realized what a fool he was dragging the country into, he worked back... No need to say that he is like Putin protege. VVP had a better relationship with Yulia Vladimirovna. Yanyk surrendered Ukraine step by step to the West... And the West skillfully used his bribery, stupidity, and I’m not even afraid to say stubborn stupidity...
    For 20 years, the West was preparing what just happened... Detachments of guys from western Ukraine were trained at NATO bases in Rakvere (Estonia), in Azeri (Latvia). I'll post a video when I'm home - one German blogger posted it today.
    For 20 years, the West encouraged the corruption of the Ukrainian so-called elite, condoned its opening of accounts, fed it, pocketed it... What brought people to the Maidan? Injustice first of all... A week later they forgot about the EU... But just like in Russia, well-organized detachments of strong guys suddenly appeared among peaceful protesters, whose task was to provoke the authorities into bloodshed in any way... Instantly ALL media and the Internet resources in the Ukrainian and Russian languages ​​became the mouthpiece of those who called themselves the opposition... Then everything was as usual... police attacks (in all early videos the police stand with their hands clasped without weapons), then unknown snipers, and as a result the last day - continuous shootings.. The West is persuading Yanukovych to negotiate, promising him protection until new elections in May. The West put its signatures, Yanukovych and the entire opposition signed too... Not a single one of the signed points was fulfilled by the opposition, on the contrary, the next day there was a sharp escalation...

    At the moment, Yanukovych, according to International Law and the provisions of the Venice Commission, is a full-fledged legitimate President and Commander-in-Chief. It was not smart enough to force him to sign his resignation. Rybak's nose was broken, two ribs were broken, a lung was knocked out - but he signed his resignation. Russia in Ukraine acts in accordance with the provisions of the Budapest Agreement and the Black Sea Fleet Agreement. The agreement clearly states what it has the right to do and how many troops and equipment it has the right to have in Crimea... That’s why the fire is now burning for its abolition, but it’s not so easy to do.
  28. +4
    2 March 2014 19: 07
    Turchinov’s mistake was to connive with the Nazi Tyagnibok in passing the Law banning the Russian language. Even the President of Poland protested. Because the Law affected not only Russians, but also Poles, Hungarians, Slovaks, all national minorities. Turchinov’s mistake was to allow the homosexual Avakov and the former KGB agent Nalivachenko to carry out an independent operation to eradicate separatism in Crimea. Haven't you heard? Oh yes... Russian troops, blocking units of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry and airports, did not allow planes with Alpha to land in Simferopol and Sevastopol, and did not allow units to be alerted. The command passed, but the officers were not allowed into the unit at that time. Then they missed it.

    How much blood would have been spilled? In both cases, Russia would have to intervene - because Putin is not Medvedev, and secondly, he would not be forgiven at home. If we don’t follow the lead of your media here, which is spreading ridiculous and wild rumors, but just wait until tomorrow, then I think everything will work out. Tomorrow Yulia is supposed to fly to Moscow, at least they spoke with GDP yesterday on the phone. It is quite possible that Turchinov and your prime minister will arrive.
    1. 0
      2 March 2014 20: 03
      What are you talking about now? For yellow or red?
    2. antiput
      0
      2 March 2014 20: 53
      This law was put forward not by Tyagnibok but by Kirilenko from the Our Ukraine party, and it (the law) did not gain force because Spanish about. The president vetoed and gave instructions to prepare a new law that would suit both the west and east of the country. So there is no need to tell Grandma Vanga’s fairy tales here, as in everything else, about the echelons of Bandera’s men who are pouring into the Crimea and other hallucinations of a sick imagination.
    3. 0
      3 March 2014 00: 10
      The NovoKiev government did not come to Moscow with Tymoshenko. Fact.
      The fact that the government is illegitimate will soon come back to haunt them (people do not “mobilize” on the orders of this government - that is, the people shouted on the Maidan, but did not go to fight for them).
      I believe we now expect a decision on Kyiv from Putin.
      To take or not to take, that is the question.
  29. +3
    2 March 2014 19: 29
    I notice that there are already overflowing Russian jingoistic patriots, both from Russia and from Ukraine! Calm down already! Has no one noticed that the Russian Federation emphatically adheres to compliance with international law and previously reached agreements!? The Russian Federation will not occupy Ukraine, it was announced at the highest level. Russian troops were not brought in (maybe they won’t be brought in at all). And if they introduce it, they will be limited to helping to establish public order and protecting man-made hazardous facilities in Ukraine. The flagship of the Ukrainian Naval Forces under the flag of a non-VMSU fleet is simply nonsense. Perhaps in this way the Ukrainian sailors “temporarily tried to indicate” their personal sympathies, for which they will be punished by their commander in chief and will have to scrub the deck and “blow out the latrine” for the next week laughing The reality is:

    1. Power in Ukraine has been usurped by the opposition
    2. Real power lies with local fascists, who have been feeding for 20 years from the hands of the US-EU, with aggressive intentions against everything Russian both in Ukraine and in Russia
    3. The Russian Federation will not tolerate this and, acting within the framework of international law, will help the fraternal people take control of the government of the legitimate government
    4. The EU and the USA will not give money for “life”, and if they do, it will be on enslaving conditions or to escalate destabilization. Because the goal is Russia.
    5. Objectively, for the Russian Federation, inaction is like death.
    6. Ukrainians! Be patient... Be understanding... The Russian Federation is not encroaching on your "independence", we would not lose ours, and you are here with the Maidans

    God willing, we will manage without bloody showdowns. But even what we have now is a triumph of Russophobia. Geyropa and the states are already rejoicing, but they want to drive Ukraine and the Russian Federation even deeper into their ass. So that it is not they who gnaw our own throats, but we!

    PS What a beautiful and rich land was given to the Ukrainians in 1991... The most beautiful city in the world, Kyiv... the cradle of Russian Orthodoxy... the beginning of the Russian holy land... At the moment ALL THIS is being trampled by the Nazis am My ancestors are turning over in their graves... I DO NOT want to endure this! Get out of Kyiv!!! soldier
    1. best_ua
      0
      April 6 2014 19: 03
      No. The fascists are still only on the border. But they are preparing to march on Kyiv. Tanks, armored personnel carriers, cities. I don’t want to endure it! Get a view of Kyiv!!!
  30. +2
    2 March 2014 19: 32
    Another thing I wanted to say... I've been watching what's happening for a long time. And this is what is happening - once again the United States punched Europe in the nose... First, they created Kosovo, which became a huge headache for Europe - drug transit from Afghanistan flows through it, Kosovo gangs are rampant even in Germany.

    It didn’t work out with Georgia, although how much money was poured into it, what provocations were used... But the Georgian people threw out their offspring, and judging by the renaming of the Ministry of Integration and the beginning of establishing normal relations with Abkhazia and Ossetia, reconciliation is possible in the future, and I don’t even rule it out restoring sovereignty peacefully... A long way, but a sure one...

    Ukraine - look who entered the government. Only those who please the USA. Not a single Ukrainian politician, fed by Europe, was even included in the technical list. Everything is clear as in Nuland’s telephone conversation. Klitschko was needed at the initial stage to use his name.

    So - the USA has won, Europe is in trouble.... The European ministers - signatories are offended, they themselves did not expect that the very next day the opposition, with a go-ahead from Washington, would refuse to fulfill ALL the points signed by it and them. Likewise, Yanukovych has the right to refuse his signature. He hasn't said everything yet. What cynicism - everything has already been decided, but the US Ambassador loudly declares that the United States is categorically in favor of Yanukovych being President before the elections. Because they understand the illegitimacy of today’s government and are happy about it. But Yanyk escapes, first in cars, then in helicopters... The online post about the running away dog ​​and suitcases is a crude fake; no one paid attention to the brand of the helicopters. There are no such people in Ukraine. That’s why everything is blurred and gray. Anyway.

    What did Ukraine get? A government of amateurs - a kamikaze, a complete destruction of industry, an empty treasury (no one worked for three months and the money was wasted), a countless number of various kinds of maydowns on the roads, tension in relations between East and West, intensely fueled from overseas. The United States does not need Ukraine, they need a seething cauldron in the middle of Europe. Both against Russia and against Europe. Because in May there will be elections to the European Parliament, and patriotic European forces will come to the leadership of the EU. Who will not, like Ashton, follow all of Washington’s orders. Therefore, it is important to stake a claim on Europe now and impose headaches on it. Europe understands this, but Germany, no matter how it puffs itself up, is an occupied country.

    The most important thing that the United States managed to do was to provoke a conflict with Russia with the hands of Avakov and Nalivachenko and the language of Yarosh and, first of all, Tyagnibok. I don’t know what will happen now with gas supplies, interaction in industry, trade... After all, besides Russia, Ukrainian mechanical engineering products are not needed anywhere.
  31. msv
    +2
    2 March 2014 19: 40
    Quote: vlademaev
    Guys, wait, this information is contradictory. On other sites I read only this morning that Sahaidachny actually did not go over to the side of Crimeans. And it was written on the mail that the headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy was repulsed by the Russian detachment of Ukrainian marines, which are on Turchinov’s side. Now information is so contradictory and so many ducks that it is necessary to somehow perceive it more carefully and more carefully. I would not want to be happy just ducks.

    As far as I remember, there are a couple of battalions of Marines left in Ukraine (and in my opinion, not all of them are in Crimea)
    There were no reports of assaults on military units; information would have leaked out.
    Well, let's turn on the logic: With the overwhelming support of the people of Crimea and the Russian Federation, trying to storm something and hold it with an MP battalion is not logical.
    Have you seen the self-defense units guarding the authorities? The equipment is better than that of other infantry units. It’s clear that this is a pro. I think that all the same, possible resistance from the Ukrainian military is blocked in various ways. Well, motivation is important for active actions.
  32. sxn278619
    0
    2 March 2014 19: 44
    Why does Russia need him? Let him fight his Nazis.
  33. best0719
    +1
    2 March 2014 19: 49
    Banderlog announced mobilization. The good news is that the more of them arrive in Crimea, the fewer will have to be caught in the forests
  34. msv
    +2
    2 March 2014 19: 59
    Quote: antiput
    This is me about the technical side of our death:

    ......
    Because I love it all!!!!!! THIS IS MY HOMELAND!!!!!!! I will protect her!!!! Pushkin, Vorontsov, Gorky, Shevchenko, Bunin, Bulgakov.... I will protect them from you!!! You will get this in your head!!!! I can not!!! The brain refuses to understand this!!!!


    Perverted logic. Well, at least why protect all this from the Russians? More likely, if the Russians don’t come to Odessa (and by the way, there are enough people living there now). Then all this will have to be defended from Bandera. Or do you naively believe that you will be allowed to keep all this?
    In fact, despite all the fervor on the site, there is no talk of annexing part of Ukraine or all of Ukraine to Russia. I think that the ability to use troops is, at a minimum, necessary to prevent the genocide of Russian speakers in Odessa, among other things.
    I’m 42, but I must admit I’m surprised how you can brainwash a person at 43.
    Unless, of course, it's all a lie.
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    2. best_ua
      0
      April 6 2014 19: 09
      “Banderites!” Scream and scream, but in the end, what will happen next? You will count all those who disagree as enemies, for honor, for freedom, for your rights. Those who rose up, casting aside fear, then consider me a Bandera member too.
  35. storm wind
    -1
    2 March 2014 20: 08
    While Serdyukov and Vasiliev are not on their bunks, but openly laughing at us, it’s just a spit on the people, wild injustice! There is nothing to respect our authorities. Well, sometimes there are glimpses like now. The fifth column that everyone hears is not choking! This is reality! China supported and since they immediately had a terrorist attack, maybe at least this will teach them how to deal with the US. And it’s strange that Venezuela refused us a military base, so these are good friends for you! And we, with all our hearts... Power should rest on the people and not on the oligarchs, who always have one thing on their mind... loot!
  36. +3
    2 March 2014 20: 11
    Quote: leshiy 77
    I also have relatives in Russia, but they don’t arrange Maidans for you, and they don’t carry out intervention! and you are climbing with your empire, rotten from the same corruption as ours, you still have everything ahead. And I am not for the E.S. AND the U.S.A. I AM FOR UKRAINE WITHOUT CORRUPTION AND FAT CATS BRIBEERS AND LADERS!!!

    Oh, who has come to power now? Yes, the estate of Tyagnibok, a pharmacist near Vienna, will give Mezhyhirya a hundred points head start....Have you seen Klitschko’s mansion in Florida? Where have you seen others around you?

    Guys, Chaika announced the news yesterday - the Russian side took over from the Belarusian side a criminal case involving Belarusian... Among the names of the defendants are Kerimov, Dvorkovich, Donskoy, Manturov, Slyunyaev... Has Putin really decided to start putting pressure on the fifth column in the Government...

    The Americans did not allow Serdyukov to be put under pressure, but their man was retroactively made a Hero of Russia, signed by Medvedev, who didn’t know.
    1. +7
      2 March 2014 21: 43
      Quote: Santor
      The Americans didn’t allow Serdyukov to be crushed, why, their man was retroactively made a Hero of Russia with Medvedev’s signature, who didn’t know?
      Information about awarding this idiot a Hero turned out to be a provocation
  37. storm wind
    -1
    2 March 2014 20: 18
    Chaika has said a lot before. And where are the landings? If they really go to prison for their crimes, then yes! Well done, and as we always hear."We opened a criminal case and blah blah blah... the result is either nothing or a ridiculous verdict... Until we restore order in our own place, everything around will be in a fever!
  38. 0
    2 March 2014 20: 22
    And how many more “trolls” there are! New nicknames - new trends. I suggest to all forum participants not to post new “hot” information without documentary evidence. Consider unsubstantiated information about how Russians and Ukrainians kill each other or “capture/borrow/take away” something from each other as incitement to hatred!
  39. Belogor
    +1
    2 March 2014 20: 24
    Well, if the commander of the Ukrainian Navy went over to the side of Crimea (read Russia), then what to talk about.
    "The commander of the Ukrainian Navy said that he swore allegiance to the people of Crimea
    Subject:

    The situation in Crimea (192) / Ukraine: chronicle of events
    20:1702.03.2014
    The commander of the Ukrainian naval forces, Denis Berezovsky, announced this at a press conference in Sevastopol.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140302/997783988.html#ixzz2upLVfziK
  40. +1
    2 March 2014 20: 26
    Quote: Storm Wind
    Chaika has said a lot before. And where are the landings? If they really go to prison for their crimes, then yes! Well done, and as we always hear."We opened a criminal case and blah blah blah... the result is either nothing or a ridiculous verdict... Until we restore order in our own place, everything around will be in a fever!

    Never in front of the TV with a piece of paper... Markin usually said such things... But look, when Putin a year ago set the conditions for our Banderlogs to transfer all funds from offshore companies to Russia, prohibiting officials from having accounts - it turns out he foresaw everything in advance?:) And Today Kerry said that the United States is blocking the accounts of Russian officials... Come on, block it, and give us the list, please.
  41. 0
    2 March 2014 20: 32
    Quote: Kite
    Quote: sledgehammer102
    Wonderful trolling !!!

    - yes, they paid for our vaccination against "colored brain abscess". I hope this vaccination will provide immunity from foreign NGO agents to us and the people of Ukraine.

    I would not delude myself. The vaccine will not work on everyone. "The smart ones have become smarter, the stupid ones have become dumber, but the majority have not changed"
  42. storm wind
    0
    2 March 2014 20: 33
    Let's hope everything goes according to plan! And competent politicians must have developed foresight! In general, I’m pleased with what we’ve been doing lately. There will be results, it will be great. Now the main thing is not to slow down and push the evil spirits on all fronts!!!
  43. kohah
    0
    2 March 2014 20: 49
    I agree with this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KswxumWhe2s

    Less people read the media, there is now an information war going on with a lot of misinformation on both sides.
  44. +3
    2 March 2014 20: 49
    Quote: UzRus
    Let us remind you that the 36th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which is based in the village of Perevalnoye, could be attacked by Russian special forces in an hour and a half.
    The commander decided that “they will fight to the death.” At the request of the unit's command, reserve officer Sergei Lanshin reported this.

    Just now on Vesti 24 Shevchenko said for the 36th brigade: 30 servicemen without insignia arrived at the checkpoint (let’s say directly Russian servicemen, Shevchenko said), the brigade commander Slyusarenko came out to them. The servicemen explained that they had arrived for control, so that they could leave the territory the brigades did not transfer weapons and equipment, they remained at the checkpoint and along the perimeter, the brigade commander did not have any more questions for them, the military personnel are outside the perimeter, the brigade is engaged in daily service. “No one is fighting to the death” and does not fight. Let the reserve officer finally sit on the bench reserves and does not muddy the waters. The commander of the Ukrainian Navy refused to carry out the orders of Kiev and recognized the command of the Republic of Crimea, invited all military personnel in Crimea to recognize the supremacy of the orders of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, those who did not want to can submit a report and resign, they are guaranteed departure from Crimea.
  45. +4
    2 March 2014 20: 50
    I got through to Crimea... Well, there are no words to call the Ukrainian media... I have never seen such nonsense, how they want blood to be shed.

    In short, there was no “hetman” in Sevastopol, they are expected no earlier than Tuesday, not all of the border guards left, some remained, they will serve, everything is settled.
    In the morning there was a conversation between the fleet commanders, after which the Russians removed the blocks from the naval headquarters and it began to work normally (which, shouting “Glory to Ukraine,” pouring Ukrainian blood on the asphalt left and right, was recaptured by brave Ukrainian border guards from the vile Russians, according to UNIAN). The border ships left after they were released from the bay by the Black Sea Fleet ship that was blocking it - everything was discussed.

    For reference to hotheads, the PSKR brigade is a small part of no more than 200-300 people - crews of boats, small ships of Project 205, staff, women, civilians in coastal positions. People are not adapted to conduct combat operations on land, mechanics, specialists... only wild imagination could send them on an assault against armored vehicles and marines...

    Everything is calm in Feodosia, a battalion of marines is minding its own business, there aren’t even any Russians there, local Cossacks are watching the checkpoint... Who is going to die there? I made inquiries about the author - there is nowhere to put a mark on the terry Banderaite.

    Hysteria is building..... No one is going to fight, but Russian troops are ready to close Chongar and Perekop if something happens. For now there are only locals there, but in light of the fact that Kyiv is gathering loyal troops there, everything may change...

    Also - no exercises have been held in Ukraine for the last two years, a battalion of Marines, according to them, was at the training center twice last year - there is no fuel and practical ammunition, they trained more in classes, did not go to sea at all, only the squad that left at Sagadachny. ..

    The Ukrainian Air Force is not combat-ready, the pilots have practically not flown for two years, there is no fuel - a familiar picture, we went through this before Putin... The service life of the equipment is at its limit, nothing new has been received...

    The picture is the same in the ground forces - in short, the army was completely abandoned by the previous leadership.

    In Russia, especially after the lessons of 2008, a lot has changed, thank God they didn’t let Serdyukov kill the army... They picked up an opportunity and threw it off... If anyone thinks that Putin is so omnipotent, you are deeply mistaken.. But the war is going on invisible...
    It was possible to deceive Nabiulina, who was considered by the Americans to be completely their own, to the post of the Central Bank. If you manage to bring down the interest rate, which it has now already reduced and amounts to 8.25% (that is, Russia has the right to give consumer credit at least 14% - this is the limit, the same for industry) - the percentage is approved by the US Federal Reserve - the Central Bank does not belong to Russia so that Did you know that interest rates on mortgage payments, excise taxes, industrial lending, housing and communal services tariffs will be automatically reduced.... For reference, today the rate for the USA is 0.25%, Britain - 0.5%, Japan - 0.1%, Ukraine in August before the events was 6.5%.... So draw your conclusions.
    1. 0
      3 March 2014 00: 19
      Dear Victor, thank you for your comments - I’m constantly watching, constantly +. I am very glad that you try, whenever possible, to clarify the situation. Please continue! good drinks hi
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  47. vlum
    0
    2 March 2014 21: 02
    We are waiting for news about the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy
  48. storm wind
    +1
    2 March 2014 21: 07
    Now the Americans have gone their separate ways... from the latest news...

    Secretary of State Kerry stressed that Russia's actions could have "very serious consequences" from the United States and other countries. In particular, he did not rule out the introduction of sanctions to “economically isolate” Russia.

    According to the US Secretary of State, Russia risks losing its place in the G8 if it refuses to change its position on Crimea.

    Fuck you!
  49. kohah
    +1
    2 March 2014 21: 12
    “They managed to deceive Nabiulina into the post of the Central Bank, who was considered by the Americans to be completely one of their own. If they manage to bring down the interest rate, which they have now already reduced and is 8.25% (that is, Russia has the right to give consumer loans no lower than 14% - this is the limit, for industry then the same thing) - the percentage is approved by the US Federal Reserve - the Central Bank does not belong to Russia, just so you know - the percentage of mortgage payments, excise taxes, industrial lending, housing and communal services tariffs will be automatically reduced.... For reference, today the rate for the USA is 0.25%, Britain - 0.5%, Japan - 0.1%, Ukraine in August before the events was 6.5%.... So draw your conclusions."

    can be explained in more detail, otherwise I honestly weakly think about it :)
  50. 0
    2 March 2014 21: 16
    Hooray! The information was confirmed. The commander of the Ukrainian fleet, Berezovsky, came under the jurisdiction of Crimea along with the entire fleet. In which he swore allegiance to the people of Crimea.
  51. 0
    2 March 2014 21: 17
    Quote: vlum
    We are waiting for news about the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy

    They just showed on Vesti 24 that he took the oath of allegiance to Crimea!
  52. kohah
    +2
    2 March 2014 21: 35
    Delights are premature and unfounded, everything is just beginning,
    and to be honest, there is nothing good about what’s brewing in Ukraine
    And the Americans and their allies are simply polishing their strategy to spread “peace” throughout the world, including here.
  53. +1
    2 March 2014 21: 57
    Quote: Dimych
    The first swallow?

    As the online publication "Sevastopol News" reports, citing unofficial sources in the Ukrainian Navy, two US Navy ships are heading towards the shores of Sevastopol at full speed.
    Funny: two ships of the US Navy raised the St. Andrew's flag and swore allegiance to the people of Crimea.
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  55. +6
    2 March 2014 22: 17
    A RESIDENT OF KHARKOV ASKED TO DISTRIBUTE THE INFORMATION:
    Asked to distribute !!!!! SOS !!!!!
    Maximum repost. My relative from Lvov worked in Berkut until the new government dispersed them. He called me and said that Lviv Golden Eagle was offered to atone for his sin against the people with blood and go to Kharkov, Donetsk, Simferopol to disperse the people gathered against the government. Most agreed that they were given firearms and today at 1:00 in the night they go by bus to the indicated places, they will also be representatives of the legal sector, and today 300 arrived in Lviv
    a soldier from Poland, in total there are about 700 people with weapons to the teeth !!!
    The order is to fire to kill! There are also rumors in Lviv that any day now a special detachment of the American army should arrive in Lviv and will also be sent to these cities!!! Distribute, copy
    === SO NOW THE QUESTION: WHO WANTS BLOODSHED?
    1. +1
      2 March 2014 22: 39
      Don't drive your horses. What kind of soldiers are from Poland?
    2. hasenussbaum
      -2
      3 March 2014 00: 51
      you var, how much does Putin pay you? die!
    3. best_ua
      0
      April 6 2014 19: 16
      From the category - one woman said. Now any movement is filmed and published by many sources. Where is the evidence?
  56. 0
    2 March 2014 22: 20
    By the way: US Navy ships have been pushed back from the coast of Crimea more than once.
  57. hasenussbaum
    -1
    3 March 2014 01: 24
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: sevsor
    SW Alexander Romanov go to the site SEVASTOPOL.SU, I hope you do not suspect him of sympathy for Kiev.

    Thanks, stop by hi And here are the comments of Sevastopol ....
    Dmitry Lazarev
    added 01-03-2014 17:55:04 Quote
    I didn’t understand something, he still did not pass the Bosphorus?


    Andrey Grinyuk
    added 01-03-2014 17:55:17 Quote
    EEEE and he was already in Sevastopol? This is about the "hetman"


    Something a lot of controversy. The Navy flagship raised Andreev’s flag and returned to Sevastopol, or left the main base

    Something is not clear, like the flagship of the Navy is not in Sevastopol? They just reported that he was on an official visit somewhere ????

    Zhu4er (Sevastopol)
    added 01-03-2014 18:11:12 Quote
    news fake clean water. Sagaidachny has no airplane speed.


    What say


    moderator-provocateur takes an active part in the invasion of Crimea
  58. hasenussbaum
    -1
    3 March 2014 01: 25
    our boat is based on NATO wink
  59. +2
    3 March 2014 02: 32
    Quote: hasenussbaum
    our boat is based on NATO


    Your ship has replenished its supply of drinking water in Souda Bay on the island of Crete (by no means a NATO base, well, why would it be interesting to lie about the little things to your media, I just don’t understand) and now it has already been drawn into the narrowness and is passing Gallipoli. Wait for him on Monday evening or Tuesday morning, the right car is acting up, so it flops around at 9 knots.
  60. 77
    77
    0
    3 March 2014 02: 38
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    Quote: leshiy 77
    I'm not for E.S. AND U.S. AND I'M FOR UKRAINE WITHOUT CORRUPTION AND FAT CATS, BRIBEERS AND LADERS!!!

    Damn Leshy, where were you before? Under Kuchma, under Yuscha, Godzilla-faced? Or did corruption not bother you before? Do not whistle! And now Yulya the Zechka, who has robbed Ukraine to the bone, and in return threw a handout to the people, is eager to take power?
    You are against bribe-takers and hangers-on, but who now calls themselves your authority? In your Ukraine, thieves and bandits have now come to power. Are you blind and can't see it? Don’t you see the Nazis, whose ancestors covered half of Ukraine with blood?
    They came to take the last thing from you and dump you on America and Europe!
    Maidan sold Ukraine! And what the hell, no one needs ordinary hulks there!
    Open your damn eyes!

    I used to work and strain my health guarding the regional headquarters in Donetsk!!! just eating us.....l! it won't work this time.
    1. +1
      5 March 2014 22: 58
      Quote: leshiy 77
      I used to work and strain my health guarding the regional headquarters in Donetsk!!! just eating us.....l! it won't work this time.

      A naive "Albanian" guy. And all over!!! fool
  61. 77
    77
    0
    3 March 2014 02: 58
    In short, you guys have a Masonic conspiracy here! those who comment from Ukraine are either Bender or some other bastard, and you still say what kind of world this is, and you yourself are drooling because we have problems, here is a video to prove that you are Nazis worse than us! and your little fat and skinheads are not with you either! Damn, you look like saints. You can’t even express your opinion here, because it’s not to your taste. https://vk.com/away.php?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dy0hQ
    aaGEoUU
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    2. Baron_al
      +1
      3 March 2014 06: 06
      You, dear friend, don’t poke us at the Freemasons,
      You can express your opinion on your Bandera websites - there you will find support. Adequate people are gathering here to discuss the Nazi coup in Ukraine. Yes - we are for peace. and if your mongrels are acting. like the president and like the prime minister, if they rock the boat and try to incite the Maidan Nazis to the southeast, they will be considered war criminals - they will be caught and imprisoned.
      And yes - you have a coup, there are victims, looters and rapists walk around the cities, rob citizens, rape women. We have the Olympics. Feel the difference.
      And finally - we don’t need anything from you, neither money, nor land... put things in order, be a friendly country to us (the second Russia), and live richly.
      If you don’t want to, just live in shit. But we won’t let Russians be killed.
      1. 0
        3 March 2014 13: 39
        Wow! Just a Masonic conspiracy, no more and no less! Yes, even if there is even such a definition. All of it is connected with at least some kind of presence of mind! What about you? Some kind of moron-Bandera coup! Neither intelligence nor imagination, which is confirmed by the very first laws of this ersatz power!
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  63. Horde
    0
    3 March 2014 07: 22
    Quote: 120352
    If you wanted to ask a question in Russian, you would ask (American?) Using the instrumental case (answering the questions "by whom?, By what?"
    You used the adjective (what?) American? Why publicly fool, dear?


    Well, how can you talk nonsense on such a reputable and visited resource? and in my thoughts I didn’t have, an old joke just came to mind
    US Secretary of State Kisinger arrives in Moscow and sees political observer Zorin and says
    - how nice it is to see OUR person far from the homeland, and Zorin says
    -OUR OWN? I am Russian,
    “Well, I'm American,” said the Kiesenger.
    so you have Sagaidachny either Russian, or not Russian, or Ukrainian.
    but in general you need to get away from understanding and, most importantly, presenting your personal point of view on the history of that time, why did you suddenly get the idea that Sagaidachny felt like that on a national basis? From the point of view of Ukrainian historians of the new school, PEOPLE WENT FROM UKRAIN it may be right, but ALL sane people not only doubt, but even imagine laughing at the Ukrainians attempting to rewrite history, and your statement about the FELT of the same field was a berry. In those years, POLAND, it was the rebellious province of Russia-Horde, therefore, all sorts of small feudal lords like Sagaidachnoy tried to MANEUVER between the nascent new state of Poland with the new religion and the METROPOLISM OF THE MOSCOW KINGDOM, respectively, some part of the imperial army of the SORDAY history was supported by the Cossacks, but this she is no worse than TI.
    1. hasenussbaum1
      0
      4 March 2014 01: 47
      you are the horde, you were and remain slaves with a slave ideology... the world will destroy you
  64. 0
    3 March 2014 15: 37
    And when will the name given when bookmarking be returned to it? Was he "Kirov"?
  65. 0
    3 March 2014 20: 53
    As Agence France-Presse has learned, the resolution proposed for signing, among other things, contains a clause banning the supply of weapons to Russia.

    I think they are fools or such good actors)
  66. Power
    0
    3 March 2014 21: 06
    Good news. We are one People and we have nothing to divide. It's time to correct and minimize the sabotage actions of Khrushchev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin and other traitors to the motherland.
  67. +1
    4 March 2014 00: 53
    Quote: kohah
    It was possible to deceive Nabiulina, who was considered by the Americans to be completely their own, to the post of the Central Bank. If it is possible to bring down the interest rate, which has already been reduced by it and is 8.25% (that is, Russia has the right to give a consumer loan at least 14% - this is the limit, the same for industry) - the interest is approved by the US Federal Reserve - The Central Bank does not belong to Russia, whatever did you know that mortgage payments, excise taxes, lending to industry, housing and communal services rates will automatically decrease .... For reference, today the rate for the United States is 0.25%, Britain is 0.5%, Japan is 0.1%, Ukraine in August before the events was 6.5% .... So draw your own conclusions. "

    can be explained in more detail, otherwise I honestly weakly think about it :)


    I explain that the money in Sberbank and the country's banks come from the Central Bank ... According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not obey the government of the Russian Federation. He reports to the IMF, and in fact the US Federal Reserve, which prints dollars.
    The President of the Russian Federation cannot appoint the head of the Central Bank, he can only submit candidates for consideration by the IMF. Putin pushed Glazyev, and when the Fed hacked him to death, he offered Nabiulin. She, like tens of thousands of other officials, underwent special training in the United States. Therefore, the Fed accepted her candidacy, and US Ambassador McFall congratulated her on her appointment "as the best graduate."

    But after accepting the post, Nabiulin suddenly arranged a personnel shake-up, removing all employees for the staff and establishing a qualification commission, which not all went through. And among the U.S. citizens who did not pass 16, who were formerly consultants and assistants to Zamov ... the Fed is angry, the IMF is threatening, and Nabiulina throws up her hands and refers to the Law of the Russian Federation, where foreign citizens can not hold such positions ... The war is still going on .

    But the Central Bank gives money not just like that, but at a percentage .. This is that loan rate ... Translated into Russian - the central bank allocates money to the Sberbank and other Russian banks in dollar terms for the declared percentage ... That is, if banks even get profit - they should already lend to the population and industry based on the interest rate of the central bank ... That is, to wind up ... My friend, a Lithuanian theater director, bought an apartment under 2 (two) percent of the mortgage in the center of Vilnius ... And I’m such a daughter in the center of Kaliningrad - under 13.25%

    Another friend in the USA - who might know, Sergei Nelson - bought a house, a car at 4%, the loan term was 100 (ONE HUNDRED) years!!!!! The entire US lives on credit, 4% is the highest loan that is given for 100 years, that is, children and grandchildren will pay small amounts monthly. Why is that? And look at what percentage the Fed gives money to the US Central Bank - 0.25%

    I have sufficiently explained why our prices jump like bad and the ruble is pegged to the dollar?
  68. +2
    4 March 2014 01: 04
    Quote: leshiy 77
    In short, you guys have a Masonic conspiracy here! those who comment from Ukraine are either Bender or some other bastard, and you still say what kind of world this is, and you yourself are drooling because we have problems, here is a video to prove that you are Nazis worse than us! and your little fat and skinheads are not with you either! Damn, you look like saints. Even your site and your opinion cannot be expressed here, because it is not to your taste. https://vk.com/away.php?


    Yes, we know all this ourselves.. And about Zhirik and other garbage... I’ll just say this - how many years ago Zhirik was traveling to us in Kaliningrad by train... The controller reports - in such and such a carriage, such and such a place is State Duma Deputy Zhirinovsky. .. I was just checking this checkpoint... Let’s go with the boss to introduce ourselves.... that’s how it’s supposed to be... And what do we see? A man in a tracksuit is sitting in a compartment, smart tired eyes, an ironic look... We talked, invited him to the office for a glass of tea - he didn’t refuse... The check takes place according to the technology for 45 minutes - we made it... A very competent, very smart and intelligent person. .. And on TV it’s just a mask of some kind of clown... But I remember his words, I gave him books with paintings... not weak by the way... And now I perceive him as some kind of necessary element of political cuisine, remembering his eyes.

    Our skinheads, to be honest, have everything under control, and if something serious happens, the taiga will teach them sense.

    And yours are uncontrollable, and to be honest, sometimes I think - if Sashka Bilogo hadn’t been there, it would have been necessary to come up with something... But it’s a real fact that was noted in Chechnya, and by the way, Ramzan said hello to him and Yarosh... He said - wait gift.
  69. KRYMARK
    0
    4 March 2014 01: 25
    The Kremlin is keeping silent about the details of the scandalous conversation between Putin and Merkel
    The Kremlin refuses to comment on the telephone conversation between Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel regarding the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine, citing a short message from the press service of the head of state about the conversation between the two leaders.


    But the German government willingly provides details of the dialogue that took place the day before, during which Merkel doubted that the Russian leader was maintaining contact with reality, as reported by The New York Times, Censor.NET reports with reference to Newsru.com.

    Immediately after Putin’s conversation with Merkel, the Kremlin press service reported on a conversation in which the head of the Russian Federation told the German Chancellor that Moscow’s actions towards Ukraine were completely adequate to the situation. At the same time, foreign agencies reported that in response, Merkel called the Russian side’s policy an “unacceptable intervention” in Crimea, and accused her interlocutor of violating international law.

    The next day, the official website of the German Federal Government published details of the conversation between the two leaders, about which there was also not a word in the message from the Kremlin press service. In particular, it became known that Merkel actually accused Putin of non-compliance with the terms of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum and the 1997 agreement on the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

    It also turned out that the Russian President accepted the German Chancellor’s proposal to create an international mission on the situation in Ukraine, as well as “a contact group, possibly under the auspices of the OSCE, to begin a political dialogue” on the crisis-ridden country.

    It is worth noting that the Kremlin still does not comment on the agreement reached between Putin and Merkel, Interfax reports. Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov only addressed journalists to the official message of the Kremlin press service, which stated that the heads of the two states “agreed to continue consultations both in bilateral (through foreign policy departments) and in multilateral formats in order to promote the normalization of social -the political situation in Ukraine."

    The results of the conversation between Putin and Merkel can also be judged by how the German Chancellor described this conversation to US President Barack Obama. “Chancellor Merkel told Obama by phone on Sunday that after talking with Putin she doubted he was in touch with reality,” The New York Times writes, citing “sources briefed on the call.” The material, a translation of which is published by InoPressa, claims that Merkel used the expression: “In another world.”

    The article also reports that Obama spoke with Merkel, as well as the leaders of Great Britain and Poland, on March 2, 2014, and “gained the agreement of all GXNUMX countries” to suspend preparations for the Sochi summit and find ways to support the Ukrainian government, whose economic situation is very shaky"

    In addition, the US President offered Russia a way out that would help it save face, the newspaper reports. “He proposed that European observers take the place of Russian forces in Crimea in order to protect against perceived threats to the Russian-speaking population, which the Kremlin cites as justification for its intervention,” the material says.

    The day before, the Federation Council of the Russian Federation unanimously approved the request of the President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief Putin to use the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the territory of Ukraine until the socio-political situation in this country normalizes. And although the proposal of the head of the Russian Federation has not yet been implemented, the local Crimean press assures that Russia has already captured the vast majority of military facilities in Crimea
  70. -1
    4 March 2014 01: 33
    Quote: Santor
    Quote: kohah
    It was possible to deceive Nabiulina, who was considered by the Americans to be completely their own, to the post of the Central Bank. If it is possible to bring down the interest rate, which has already been reduced by it and is 8.25% (that is, Russia has the right to give a consumer loan at least 14% - this is the limit, the same for industry) - the interest is approved by the US Federal Reserve - The Central Bank does not belong to Russia, whatever did you know that mortgage payments, excise taxes, lending to industry, housing and communal services rates will automatically decrease .... For reference, today the rate for the United States is 0.25%, Britain is 0.5%, Japan is 0.1%, Ukraine in August before the events was 6.5% .... So draw your own conclusions. "

    can be explained in more detail, otherwise I honestly weakly think about it :)


    I explain that the money in Sberbank and the country's banks come from the Central Bank ... According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not obey the government of the Russian Federation. He reports to the IMF, and in fact the US Federal Reserve, which prints dollars.
    The President of the Russian Federation cannot appoint the head of the Central Bank, he can only submit candidates for consideration by the IMF. Putin pushed Glazyev, and when the Fed hacked him to death, he offered Nabiulin. She, like tens of thousands of other officials, underwent special training in the United States. Therefore, the Fed accepted her candidacy, and US Ambassador McFall congratulated her on her appointment "as the best graduate."

    But after accepting the post, Nabiulin suddenly arranged a personnel shake-up, removing all employees for the staff and establishing a qualification commission, which not all went through. And among the U.S. citizens who did not pass 16, who were formerly consultants and assistants to Zamov ... the Fed is angry, the IMF is threatening, and Nabiulina throws up her hands and refers to the Law of the Russian Federation, where foreign citizens can not hold such positions ... The war is still going on .

    But the Central Bank gives money not just like that, but at a percentage .. This is that loan rate ... Translated into Russian - the central bank allocates money to the Sberbank and other Russian banks in dollar terms for the declared percentage ... That is, if banks even get profit - they should already lend to the population and industry based on the interest rate of the central bank ... That is, to wind up ... My friend, a Lithuanian theater director, bought an apartment under 2 (two) percent of the mortgage in the center of Vilnius ... And I’m such a daughter in the center of Kaliningrad - under 13.25%



    I have sufficiently explained why our prices jump like bad and the ruble is pegged to the dollar?

    Dear, so why can we send troops to Ukraine, but can’t cancel the amendment to the constitution on the status of the Central Bank?
    They will immediately collapse our economy? What is it against them that they hold us so tightly by the balls?
  71. hasenussbaum1
    0
    4 March 2014 01: 45
    Putin contracted schizophrenia from Yanukovych lol
  72. 0
    4 March 2014 15: 07
    Quote: leshiy 77
    Well, come to Donetsk, I’ll meet you, look at my passport if you have time, you didn’t think that 77 could be the year of birth! My children are already students, but I write in Russian because you don’t understand our language!!!

    How are you doing in mathematics? How long have you been riveting children that they have become your students? For clarity) I was born in 1974) was drafted into the army without deferment) six months after demobilization I got married)) 9 months later my daughter was born)) So))) she only became a student this year)) so continue to engage in 0nanism, son... )))
  73. 0
    4 March 2014 15: 15
    Quote: leshiy 77
    I also have relatives in Russia, but they don’t arrange Maidans for you, and they don’t carry out intervention! and you are climbing with your empire, rotten from the same corruption as ours, you still have everything ahead. And I am not for the E.S. AND the U.S.A. I AM FOR UKRAINE WITHOUT CORRUPTION AND FAT CATS BRIBEERS AND LADERS!!!

    Well, let them try))) They will heat up this Maidan provocation until red hot on one side and you know where they will stick it with the cold end, so that they can’t pull it out right away)))
  74. 0
    4 March 2014 15: 21
    Quote: lelikas
    I don’t want to upset you, but Kyiv was actually in the Principality of Lithuania...

    Like the ancestors of leshiy 77, the Lithuanians trampled mainly on the brain)
  75. So_o_tozh
    0
    4 March 2014 19: 10
    Quote: Horde
    http://investigator.org.ua/

    Well, you got along with the Little Russians, Little Russia - there is no such thing in the world, there are Ukrainians and Ukraine, it’s the same as Russians and Belarusians.
    In the photo, Ukrainian sailors swear allegiance to the people of Ukraine on the Sagaidachny...
  76. Krogan_Urdnot
    0
    4 March 2014 19: 31
    The flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, the frigate "Hetman Sahaidachny" returns: the crew lined up in the form of the letters UA

    The return of the flagship of the Ukrainian Navy, frigate Hetman Sahaidachny, to the Black Sea is expected this evening, March 4.

    The press service of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine reported this on Tuesday, March 4, on its Facebook page.
  77. 0
    4 March 2014 22: 36
    No, well, it’s clear that it’s coming back!!!! So what foag is on it first! And if the flag is Ukrainian, what will it do next? Will he also go to Odessa?
  78. +3
    5 March 2014 12: 22
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/093/denh815.jpg
    1. Kuznetsov
      0
      5 March 2014 14: 06
      http://news.liga.net/news/politics/995468-fregat_getman_sagaydachnyy_pribyl_v_od
      essu_pod_flagom_ukrainy.htm
  79. rocketman
    -1
    5 March 2014 12: 32
    Quote: siberalt
    Hooray! The information was confirmed. The commander of the Ukrainian fleet, Berezovsky, came under the jurisdiction of Crimea along with the entire fleet. In which he swore allegiance to the people of Crimea.

    you rejoice early. Only Berezovsky betrayed; the rest of the Ukrainian Navy personnel remained faithful to their oath. As my classmate told me, serving there is HONOR more valuable than money.
    frigate G. Sagaidachny passed the Bosporus yesterday evening under the UKRAINIAN FLAG, the officers lined up on the helicopter deck and showed the whole world the UA sign - the ship belongs to Ukraine.
    Kiselyov is simply T_up_oh. If they had posted the glory of Putin in Latin, then they would have posted VP. He no longer knows how to lie to you further, dear Russians!
  80. Ukrainian girl
    0
    5 March 2014 17: 06
    http://vesti.ua/krym/40886-jekipazh-getmana-sagajdachnogo-originalno-prisjagnul-
    ukraine
  81. rocketman
    -1
    5 March 2014 19: 32
    Here are some more links for people in Russia who only trust Russian TV:
    http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/krym/soldat-bez-opoznavatelnyh-znakov-rasskazal-o
    tkuda-priehal-v-krym-500706.html
    http://www.segodnya.ua/ukraine/ukrainskie-voennosluzhashchie-pod-gimn-pytayutsya
    -vygnat-rossiyskih-okkupantov-500473.html

    http://www.segodnya.ua/regions/krym/voennye-moryaki-ukrainy-obvinili-putina-vo-l
    zhi-500557.html
    http://www.segodnya.ua/ukraine/glavnokomanduyushchiy-vms-ukrainy-otkazalsya-pere
    hodit-na-storonu-rossii-500239.html
    http://www.segodnya.ua/politics/pnews/chto-seychas-proishodit-v-zablokirovannoy-
    voennoy-chasti-v-kerchi-pryamaya-translyaciya--500743.html
    Look and listen to at least a little truth...
    1. Yankuz
      +1
      5 March 2014 19: 59
      Well, why do we need to leak Ukrainian disinformation here? I consider these links to be a provocation.
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 01: 37
      We have our own truth! Ukraine is in NATO, we are saving what we can in this situation.
  82. 77
    77
    -2
    5 March 2014 20: 21
    WELL, THE VIETNAMESE ACCOUNTANTS MY AGE ARE MASONIC CONSPIRACERS, AND IN GENERAL I HAVE A LOT IN RESERVE FOR YOU))) BUT SINCE CHILDREN AND WOMEN CAN’T BE OFFENSED, YOU ARE BLIND AS LITTLE CHILDREN, YOU DIDNESS HAVE FULL EARS, AND YOU ARE IN EAT. THERE WERE 3 ME AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE SCREWED, AND AS A RESULT, THE ULCERS CAUGHT FROM NERVOUS SOIL, SPRAYED WITH SALIVA, SHOWED DEMENTIA AND ALL THE BASE. Our frigate and Crimea will be ours. I myself went to the military registration and enlistment office in Donetsk yesterday, there were 10 people with me in the corridor. It was at 9 in the morning. That it was not enough to say on other days, but we have patriots like a tomato with a shaft! YOUR FALSE TV CHANNELS AND DON’T BARK AT US AND OUR UKRAINE. IT WAS HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU GUYS. THERE ARE MANY MORE INTERESTING TOPICS WHERE YOU CAN BE TAKEN LIKE CHILDREN. BECAUSE I WILL ASK MY CHILDREN TO DO THIS. SINCE SOME COUNT TALIE THAT I DON'T HAVE CHILDREN MAYBE, SO THIS IS WHAT I'LL TELL YOU JERKING OUT IF YOU'RE 74 YEARS OLD THIS SAYS THAT YOU SIMPLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH YOUR DICK. THAT'S ALL, OR YOU WERE JUST NOT GIVEN AN OPTION))))).
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  83. Xolod
    0
    5 March 2014 22: 42
    What's the latest news on it? Should have arrived by now.
  84. 77
    77
    0
    6 March 2014 17: 43
    Quote: Xolod
    What's the latest news on it? Should have arrived by now.
    yes, everything is fine already. In the morning they said that he would probably go to Odessa so as not to escalate the situation near the sevas, in the evening I can write in a personal message. I see the others are silent, and thank God, endurance has helped me more than once!
  85. 0
    6 March 2014 18: 37
    Well? Why delete the comment asking who saw “Hetman” under St. Andrew’s flag? Where is "Hetman" and what is its flag? Maybe stop being moved by any “duck” in the media.
    1. -1
      6 March 2014 21: 35
      the one who wrote about the St. Andrew’s flag on a ship should be taken and hoisted on the yardarm of some ship, so that it will be a lesson to the rest of the disinformers.

      I'm tired of stupid journalists with political leaders' ways.
  86. +1
    7 March 2014 03: 24
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    What say

    where did they get the St. Andrew’s flag if they didn’t enter the port after the exercises?
  87. Silyan
    +1
    7 March 2014 09: 20
    Ukraine can be defended under the St. Andrew's banner. Not submitting to the current gangster government in Kyiv.
    [img]http://ia116.mycdn.me/getImage?photoId=552702444464&photoType=0[/img]
  88. pensioner
    0
    7 March 2014 09: 52
    Yes sir!!!!!!
  89. andreirib
    0
    7 March 2014 14: 30
    But no, look here!! http://ru.euronews.com/2014/03/07/ukraine-police-on-alert-as-violence-erupts-at-
    pro-russia-demo/
  90. +2
    7 March 2014 20: 58
    It's time to remove the article!
    Sagaidachny - in Odessa.
    Flag - old
    The article is a duck.
    1. 0
      8 March 2014 11: 57
      Link please...or photo
  91. +1
    7 March 2014 23: 09
    Well, all is not lost)) we need to take Odessa! wink and the boat will be ours)
  92. 0
    8 March 2014 06: 22
    404 votes for farting and provocation. Indicative...
    1. 0
      8 March 2014 12: 10
      We're fucking screwed, I think... no?
  93. alik alik
    0
    8 March 2014 16: 34
    Put it on the Khimki reservoir next to "Druzhny" 1135, there will also be 1135P.
  94. Taidrem
    0
    8 March 2014 20: 59
    if he went over to the Russian side, why did he then go to Odessa!?