Ukraine. End of story

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Ukraine. End of story


21 February 2014 as a result of a coup d'état, organized by Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Pyagnibok, as well as a whole cohort of less visible “politicians” and outspoken extremists, the state of Ukraine de facto ceased to exist. Unfortunately, this is not the plot of a cheap fiction novel in the “alternative stories"And the harsh and terrible truth. It is very likely that the official “date of death” will be clarified, and this February day will be the beginning of a long or not too painful agony. However, the Ukraine that has been present on the map of Europe since 1991 of the year will never be.

But the Ukrainian people remain, before whom again stand two great sacramental Slavic questions: "Who is to blame?" And "What to do?". I gave the names of the criminals above. Of course, one should add to them Viktor Yanukovych - the one who struck the last fatal blow. But the answer to the second question, alas, will no longer be the Ukrainian people. Now our fate will be decided by the true leaders of other states. Fifty years ago, in such a situation, no one would have been surprised if Russia, Poland, Romania and the rest of the neighbors would simply have deployed troops, trying to break apart the remnants of the country. Now such a turn of events is almost impossible, after all, people are changing, and the way of conducting politics is changing. Open occupation of the territories will not happen for a number of reasons that are not so important as to dwell on them.

I am not an astrologer or a political analyst (it is not known, by the way, from whose lips true predictions are heard more often) to guess the future, and I don’t want to talk about that. I am a citizen of Ukraine, and before that I was a citizen of the USSR. Not much more than thirty years of life have stolen two homelands from me. I hardly remember the first one, in order to grieve about her in particular, and in childhood any losses are less painful. However, I know for sure that the first Motherland was strong, it was respected. Then there was the second, Ukraine, which is as dear to me as the first. Its main advantage was not in the strength of the army and economic power, but in peace. We could all be proud of Ukraine (at least for peace) even in the era of the most difficult trials. In the dashing 90, when a mighty Russia got an unhealed wound of the Chechen war, the Ukrainians said that "we don’t have that, it’s quiet here." And it was true. Not such a small achievement, even if one of the few that the country has achieved and has kept for twenty years. Today Ukraine was stolen from me, raped on the Maidan and killed. Tranquility if it returns, it is not very soon and no longer in this state.

Homeland must be protected, you say, and you will be right. In Kiev, I was not when all this happened, I did not defend my homeland. No, I will not repent, that is not my fault, because Ukraine as an independent state had citizens who took the oath and the obligation to protect her and me, all the others. The army and the police were supposed to be on guard. In these frosty winter days in Kiev, both these structures performed their duty with honor. Those guys from “Berkut” and “veveshniki”, who gave their lives for their homeland, deserve all the respect. As for the army, its leadership made a promise to maintain neutrality and kept this promise. I think that this is exactly what needed to be done, for which a special thank you, otherwise there would be much more blood on the streets.

Well ... I remembered my untimely deceased Motherland. I was also hurt only that day when my mother died. For the first time since that day, tears come to my eyes. In no article can I convey what I feel now (I say “I”, but I cannot believe that there are no people who are experiencing or will soon experience something similar).

And now I want to say something else. Completely different. On television in such cases, warned: "Take the children away from the screens." No, I can restrain myself, of course, otherwise the material will become unprintable, but I know that you will understand me. I will blame because I have the right to this as a citizen of Ukraine. And blame the names and details.

Viktor Yanukovych, President of Ukraine. I, a citizen of Ukraine, accuse you of treason and the collapse of the country. I blame the killings of civilians, police officers and internal troops, as well as the death of protesters from the Maidan and even extremists, because they had to be arrested and put on trial, but not killed, like dogs on the street. The blood of all these people is on your conscience, no matter who put the trigger. Blame the criminal inactivity and cowardice. It was you, the president, who had to make key decisions in a difficult moment, but did not make it. Your blood has been shed. I, a resident of the Donetsk region, am proud that in the last election I did not vote for such nothingness.

Oleg Tyagnibok. You are a frank Nazi, and this alone is enough. No charges would be required anymore. But still clarify. I accuse you of calling for an armed uprising against the law and seizing power. I blame the support of armed extremists. Your personal fault can be easily proved. There are many video footage of how you are calling for a riot from the Maidan’s rostrum. “We don’t need elections, because we won’t be able to win them!” I quoted your recent words. You knew that the Nazis would not win the elections in a country whose people know what fascism is better than anyone else. And therefore they acted as it should be for a real Nazi.

Arseniy Yatsenyuk. I accuse you of calling for an armed uprising against the law and seizing power. In contrast, you are not a Nazi, and this is undoubtedly a mitigating circumstance. Nevertheless, your fault before the Ukrainian people is beyond doubt. Let me remind you personally that the population of Ukraine is not only radical people of several regions.

Vitaliy Klichko. You are a very special person in this click. Who could have imagined you in the company of the organizers of the coup a couple of years ago ?! You were the pride of Ukraine. Only out of respect for past merit, I would not really blame you strictly, but what you did, what you said, would be enough for a decent period of time behind bars. However, what is the merit? This is just a sport, but it’s cynical to trample on the Constitution - there’s no sporting merits of blame.

But do you really care about my accusations? Winners are not judged, especially when the winners themselves are judges. So come for congratulations to Donetsk, for example, or to Lugansk, or to Kharkov. All together, revolutionaries, bolder! Look into the eyes of the people who did not choose you and that you are now going to rule. You have been waiting for a long time, oh, how are they waiting ...

And the last. There, on the Maidan, shouts of “Glory to Ukraine!” Are often heard. Here only those who have no moral right to it shout. It is not for you to shout, criminals and traitors! Not to you who drowned the capital in blood! And I say: "Glory to Ukraine!" And the eternal memory ...
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  1. -1
    22 February 2014 21: 07
    Quote: alexpro66
    Information from a source close to the pope’s circle... I’m sure it’s trustworthy!


    Sir, did your dad stand next to the President and hold his ear to the receiver, or is he the Chief of the General Staff? Where does such a blatant lie come from? Source to the studio.... Or dad's last name....
    This is how disinformation is thrown in... The fact is there, it remains to be interpreted....

    If there are children on this site, then someone might believe it....
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  3. -2
    22 February 2014 21: 48
    Maybe now, in agony, in the confrontation with rabid extremism and banditry a truly independent Ukraine is born.
  4. +1
    22 February 2014 21: 48
    PS The latest news from the Rada - A bill has been introduced on the ban of the Russian language throughout Ukraine and the introduction of criminal punishment for its use ... my wife already ran away from that room from the TV all in shock ... voiced a minute ago .... One hope is that Julia Vladimirovna somehow calms this rabble.
    1. russia_vp
      -1
      22 February 2014 21: 55
      Let them fight for their right to speak the language they want. And then it’s almost like Russia, help. Not . He got a license for a gun and went to war. And then the hamsters sit in front of the TV watching series. the whole country was screwed. Kazly
  5. russia_vp
    -1
    22 February 2014 21: 48
    When the government steals taxpayers' money, it forgets about the people. And as their lives begin to be threatened, as these very people take up arms, so the government begins to fight not with some fascists. People are simply fed up with this lying and theft. I want to kill. there is no pity for thieves. Here, near the Ob reservoir, all the land was sold for cottages, billions of rubles of net profit. For whom should we fight for this thieves? Yes, I'll go kill the bitches first. And I don’t need to rub my glasses in about fascism here. There are thieves and there are those who want to kill them. That's all - no fascism
    1. 0
      22 February 2014 22: 32
      But give you power, and 100%, you will drag in the same way and even more brazenly. And just don’t say here that “I’m not like that, I’m honest.” They don't give me an honest one yet.
      I don’t justify thieves, but I remember very well the saying from the times of the union. “What kind of work is this if there is nothing to steal?” And they dragged and dragged, to the best of their ability. Only one will bring the board home and be happy..., but the other will take a million from the budget and will be dissatisfied that there are not two. “Why should a gossip scold others and dress up, isn’t it better to turn on yourself” - Krylov, “The Monkey and the Mirror” if you don’t know.
      1. +1
        23 February 2014 06: 18
        Give me power - I’ll definitely shoot and hang all the thieves. And no one will even dare to speak badly about Russia, think. And the people - all the people - will live great with me. And all these stupid statements on the Internet by Rois are shit, Russians -drunks, Rois, will disappear, because no one will write about them. And whoever will slander Russia in vain, I will bury my face in the shit and show it to the whole world. I will kill all the freaks. They will pray for Russia and will strive with all their might to join into an alliance with Russia.
    2. +2
      22 February 2014 23: 03
      Quote: russia_vp
      There are thieves and there are those who want to kill them. That's all - no fascism


      THAT. ".......deleted by moderator Apollo-get!!!" - means that we (Russians) are thieves, and these smart guys are fighting us (the bad ones)! And nothing more! ?????
      So what? What did you personally steal from the Ukrainian people?
  6. +1
    22 February 2014 21: 54
    Today my Ukraine was stolen, raped on the Maidan and killed.

    And Klitschko, Yatsenyuk and Tyagnibok now look a lot like three used condoms...
    1. russia_vp
      -5
      22 February 2014 21: 56
      Condoms - Yanukovych and Putin
      1. +1
        22 February 2014 23: 12
        A condom is a disposable device. After use, throw away.
        That’s why there are no protests against the first candidate.
        How did V.V. personally offend you? Putin?
  7. +1
    22 February 2014 22: 22
    Quote: infinite silence ...
    Monuments to Lenin flew in many cities ... What is significant - they did it only at night.

    The horror is different. Monument to 5-year-old boy, Roma Tarawski. Stood in the village of Great Lyuben (Lviv region). The boy was killed Bandera. Monument demolished !!!!!!!!! And in its place will put a monument to Bandera? What is it? A short memory? ... or spiritual impoverishment? No words.

    Everyone will be rewarded according to their deserts, there will be enough gallows for all Bendera residents!
  8. +2
    22 February 2014 23: 20
    Quote: vladsolo56
    I set a minus, just because it was you who slept Ukraine, the East, Westerners call you slaves, they simply took power in Ukraine, and tomorrow they will come to the east. Maybe I'm wrong, and it would be very good if I were mistaken, but I am sure that they will come and make you work, work for yourself, make you slaves, and slaves will work. I don’t even see the politicians of the East, ready to lead the resistance, arm the people. Well, there are none, western Ukraine triumphs, a holiday in Kiev. The East is silent.

    I agree, what does this cost: we cannot stop open-hearth furnaces, we have to work. Ukrainians, you screwed up your UKRAINE, now you will work hard for Bandera
  9. +1
    23 February 2014 00: 11
    Quote: russia_vp
    When the government steals taxpayers' money, it forgets about the people. And as their lives begin to be threatened, as these very people take up arms, so the government begins to fight not with some fascists. People are simply fed up with this lying and theft. I want to kill. there is no pity for thieves. Here, near the Ob reservoir, all the land was sold for cottages, billions of rubles of net profit. For whom should we fight for this thieves? Yes, I'll go kill the bitches first. And I don’t need to rub my glasses in about fascism here. There are thieves and there are those who want to kill them. That's all - no fascism


    Locals don’t say Ob Reservoir, they say the sea.
    Where are you from, shooter)))
  10. +1
    23 February 2014 00: 12
    Ukraine got what it wanted, it’s a pity... but the east itself is all about...l, and why are you guys crying?! If you are men, just men, no matter what nationality, GO AND DEFEND YOUR COUNTRY, YOUR COUNTRY!!! And don't whine...
  11. +2
    23 February 2014 00: 14
    It seems that the news said that the Kiev-Pechora Lavra was captured.

    Yes, these guys will get revenge for their pathological inability to create something. A state cannot be built on hatred.
    And I noticed long ago that all of them, following Washington’s instructions, became very similar to the Wahhabis. The parallel suggests itself; replace the slogans and everything becomes clear. However, they are similar to the Nazis and others who think that if they cut off their neighbors, then everything will be just fine. Let's live! After all, there are only two opinions, one of them, and the rest have no right to live. Well, time will put everything in its place, since everything flows and everything changes, and sooner or later you will have to pay for all your deeds.
  12. 0
    23 February 2014 00: 22
    Intoxication with revolution...
  13. Maxim P.
    -1
    23 February 2014 00: 46
    The author did not blame only the people of Ukraine for rising up (more actively in the west, less actively in the east) against the “God-given legitimate government,” which had to be tolerated no matter what. Despite the large bandits who take away property from people who are not their own using criminal methods, the mobilized street rabble, that is, small bandits assigned to strengthen law enforcement during the dispersal of the dissatisfied, the various parasites that strangled business, the extortions, bribes, kickbacks, theft, for melted gold and foreign exchange reserves and a 2-fold increase in external debt against the backdrop of boasting... for much more.
  14. Maxim P.
    -4
    23 February 2014 00: 51
    Quote: tomcat117
    Ukrainians, you screwed up your UKRAINE, now you will work hard for Bandera

    Stepan Andreevich died 55 years ago. It’s like saying to a Russian, “You’re working hard for Stalin.”
    1. RF citizen
      +1
      23 February 2014 01: 09
      There are 2 big... no... 2 huge differences between the Benderites and the Stalinists.
      1. Maxim P.
        -1
        23 February 2014 01: 40
        Quote: Citizen of the Russian Federation
        There are 2 big... no... 2 huge differences between the Benderites and the Stalinists.

        Yes? Interesting, write. Just don’t write “Bendera people” anymore, for God’s sake. Bendery is a city in Transnistria, and Stepan Andreevich’s last name was Bandera.
  15. Bezz
    0
    23 February 2014 00: 57
    Some forum users write that everything will be decided by bargaining between Moscow and Washington. I don’t think so.
    I am afraid that, as Kisa Vorobyaninov said - "Bargaining is inappropriate here!" To bargain, you need either a product or money. The USA has a lot of "free carrots", and they will print as much money as they need. What arguments does Moscow have - apart from the proposal to join the CU and the slogans "Kiev is the mother of Russian cities!", "We are a brotherly people," I personally do not see. Moreover, the United States in Russia has long decided its economic ambitions through the Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin-cooperative "Lake" -Duma-Federation Council. The United States conducts economic activities with Russia on the most favorable terms, these conditions will never change as long as your deputies, ministers, presidents have real estate and their own business in the United States and Europe, their children live and study there. Why should the US fight with Russia for Ukraine? It's easier to run into the American and European business of your officials - they will immediately sign everything. And political bickering is all blah, blah, blah - for the inhabitants, the semblance of activity, well, you need to justify the budget of a huge political apparatus. And we, here in Belarus, shiver, watching the tragedy of Ukraine. After all, and we can beckon with "free carrots". The only hope is for the AHL and its policy with Moscow for now. But nothing is eternal. Unfortunately.
    PSOn some sort of power actions on the part of Russia, only a madman can think.
    The Caucasus will seem like a sandbox. Yes, and see above the alignment of political influence. Let us hope for the prudence of the people of all Ukraine, and not of individual areas.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 03: 02
      You Bezz people's factor do not dismiss the people - they are strength, even today, in the times of WoT and Dom-2. They will still come here to us later. This is not beneficial for us. So he knows that they won’t climb. Someone is being played in the dark. But if they do climb it, it will be too much. That is why the head of THEIR MFA has already stated in pure English-Movlanese: “...we will look for levers to tear apart the opposition.” So everything is under control. Bye.
      And the people... they are always our “tools”. It depends only on the skill of the musician.
    2. 0
      23 February 2014 06: 10
      What are you driving? Forceful action is possible if NATO troops are sent to Ukraine. And then Georgia will seem like a sandbox to them. But NATO is not such a fool to send troops, it will strangle the country with the hands of Westerners, without sending troops. One hope is for the South-East of Ukraine, Crimea, Donetsk, Kharkov, Sevastopol.EU
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      3. 0
        23 February 2014 06: 31
        If they hold out, then NATO will think of sending in troops, like supporting the “peaceful” Banderlogs. They will bring in and they will get it in the face from Russia, from the heart, to the very balls, because Russia will immediately and immediately send in its troops. If the Banderlogs ask NATO -The South-East will ask Russia and the Russian Black Sea Fleet. So, all hope is in the South-East. Do you think it was in vain to go to consult the West? That’s what they were counting on - capture. It’s all up to the South-East. Now it’s a queen. They’ll stumble they are about the Southeast.
        It was - Bezzu.
  16. Maxim P.
    -2
    23 February 2014 01: 08
    Quote: Bezz
    And we, here in Belarus, shudder as we watch the tragedy of Ukraine.

    Have you already sent back former Minister of Internal Affairs Zakharchenko, who fled to you across the border? It seems that your department was going to put it out at 18.00 today. An investigation awaits him here, otherwise so many different snipers were shooting at the people, and all departments (Berkut, Alpha, etc.) are nodding at each other.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 06: 50
      The Maidanists shot at the Maidanists.
  17. +3
    23 February 2014 01: 36
    A terrible betrayal occurred in the country of my birth. Where are you Taras Bulba? Mazepa has arrived.
    1. Maxim P.
      -3
      23 February 2014 02: 03
      What is happening in Ukraine now is very similar to the times of the Zaporozhye Sich. Particularly impressive is the military self-organization of the population, heroism, religiosity and military democracy. Without the approval of the Maidan, the opposition leaders did nothing, and then reported to the people.
  18. 0
    23 February 2014 02: 40
    I wonder if all this stuff out there screams, rages and kills its own kind - has it read Gogol?
    What is written there? And now how unfashionable is it!
    It is fashionable that the "Berkut" shoots at "people". So I’ll tell you what: people work, study, trade, treat - do business! And the nonhumans there in the square are turning their country into a nightmare, under the slogans: “Glory to Ukraine.”
    I also want to say something else: we will help and shelter you if there is no place for you people in your homeland. But one of the nonhumans in the square said that “he will go to the East” and how far would he like to know? To Kamchatka? Won't your lip get cracked? Can't you just wrap her by the collar?
    I remember the number of my machine gun and I know where it is stored (and how many of us are there), and where it is stored there is enough weapons for an entire regiment.
    Only permission to reach him. If they don’t allow it, we’ll allow it ourselves, but we won’t allow such a thing. Russia is not Ukraine after all - we’ll stand up for ourselves, we’ve suffered enough, if things get too hot it won’t be enough! Now everyone is completely silent, but if you light it up, it will be “senseless and merciless” as it once was.
    Who needs this? People and non-humans, come to your senses! After all, non-humans also have brains (I would like to believe this). It won't make you any better, you nonhumans. All.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 06: 55
      What the fuck machine? Dropping a bomb on this pile of shit is indicative, if you don’t have enough brains to sit quietly and enjoy life, so that it becomes clear and understandable to everyone, especially close neighbors, that there is no point in attacking Russia. Otherwise, they opened their mouths, became loud, the heroes think like what if that’s all, but they don’t realize that they themselves are the first victim, the first corpse and cannon fodder. Then everything nearby around Russia will quickly subside.
      And you are an automatic machine, an automatic machine.
  19. +1
    23 February 2014 02: 50
    [quote=Zomanus] Damn, it still sucks that what is described in “The Age of the Stillborn” came true. It’s time, I think, to create a buffer zone on the border with Ukraine.


    read this book. What is written in the book comes true.
  20. elessar
    0
    23 February 2014 03: 03
    It’s all good to say that they say, come out and defend. Of course, the Minister of Internal Affairs is now pro-Western, and that’s where the entire Ministry of Internal Affairs stands. People of the South-East come out anyway. They go out under the bullets of these anarchists and militants. Attacks were repelled in Zaporozhye today. Now this is happening in Lugansk - the assault on the regional state administration has been repulsed. Maidanavtsy opened fire from firearms, wounded 3 people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngRqU2S8Hzo. How long do you think the east will stand like this? They bring armed militants, the Ministry of Internal Affairs freezes, and then the South-East screwed everything up. You're doing well.
    1. +1
      23 February 2014 06: 41
      What prevents the East from standing just like the Banderlogs? What, did the Ministry of Internal Affairs support the Banderlogs? You need to be more insolent and more impudent, using their own methods and at them. Are they shooting? So you wet them in return.
  21. Maxim P.
    -2
    23 February 2014 03: 21
    Quote: Little Saturn
    But one of the nonhumans in the square said that “he will go to the East”

    Few people blurt out anything at a rally? Listen to Zhirinovsky or some other loudmouth of yours, or read the comments here, you can make a case out of any phrase. But a revolution is a revolution, there are excesses, this has always been the case.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 04: 00
      So enlighten us, Maxim, who are illiterate and ignorant. 1) The name of the revolution, otherwise they impose such a “bourgeois-nationalist putsch”; 2) What will be created as a result, otherwise they will impose “the collapse of Ukraine as a state”; 3) the driving forces and their political goals, otherwise they are imposed by “the storm troopers of the OUN-UPA, KUN, SS, Brotherhood, Freedom and students create a mono-ethnic totalitarian state.” We will be glad to know and understand.
    2. 0
      23 February 2014 06: 42
      Go ahead and get your revolution from the South-East.
  22. +1
    23 February 2014 04: 59
    Quote: Maxim P.

    What is happening in Ukraine now is very similar to the times of the Zaporozhye Sich.

    The Zaporozhye Sich became ataman in its floodplains. And I didn’t think about statehood. Somehow this area was unlucky with self-government. Give at least one example of an adequate, decent and INCORRUPABLE))) leader in the history of the same area? I suspect what the answer will be, but maybe you can offer some other options?
    As for the current situation, the meaning of what is happening is clear. There is no talk of any “universal human values”. The “values” of the Ukronazis and the “values” of the Ukro-oligarchs at the moment turned out to be concurrent. And at the same time - anti-people. The irrationality is astonishing. Revolutions usually occur under the slogans of internal confrontation between elites. The revolution in the outlying areas is going on with anti-neighbor slogans. It’s a no brainer that Yanukovych’s idiotism is just an excuse. For what???? This niche is already occupied by the Polensky area. But they can afford it, because to do this they must have at least some kind of economic independence. And, right at this moment, UT is having conversations with Obama and Putin. And on the same topic: what next? Geyrope can’t even feed the poor people, Obama doesn’t even have enough money for its budget, and in a week there will be a new scandal with the national debt. What are you going to live on? Again, like in a fight? Will the Cossacks tease the peasants (eastern proletarians)?
    The problem is that subsistence farming within one country is very expensive. The USSR is an example. Not only do we spend a quarter of our resources on fighting the cold, but there were only 200-300 million consumers. Together with the Ukrainian SSR. Now there is less, so the manufacturing economy is unprofitable. Bringing back integration (RI) would benefit everyone involved. Separately the price is fifty dollars. And in the union - chervonets. A common technological structure, a common culture are a multiplier for the common cause. The result is personal wealth. This, in fact, is the whole interest of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan in Little Russia. And, not enslavement, starvation and lard eating at all.)))
    Yes, without Little Russia it will be a little difficult. Domestic goods will always be more expensive than European, Chinese and Chinese ones. But they will. And on the outskirts of the geyropa, a powerless non-member (associate), on holidays, beads will be given only to the ataman (she). And for you, Maxim, for you personally, your wife (future), your children (God willing), the only thing that will shine is migrant work for the homosexuals of First France. Which, as a nationalist, should be unbearable. Although I admit that maybe you, again, you personally will settle down well. And another 45 MILLION? I hope you have completed the “agreement”? I read it for 6 hours.
    And by the way, don’t be too surprised if you have to boil the kettle on an alcohol lamp on Monday.
  23. 0
    23 February 2014 05: 48
    Minus the article for you too. “The army took neutrality.” The army surrendered the country. They brought out the army and on the first day they would have captured the bandits, and that would have been nothing. Without blood, they would have captured them like pigs. In the first days, when the first cobblestones flew.
  24. KOOSA
    +1
    23 February 2014 07: 24
    It's all over for Yanukovych. The End.
  25. +1
    23 February 2014 07: 59
    Yesterday I suddenly received a letter from an old French friend. Eh, this would be a letter - yes to each of the "European integrators"! It is noteworthy that a native of her country writes:
    “I must admit that it is difficult for me to understand: why do Ukrainians strive to join the EU as much as we and other countries strive to leave it? With Europe and the Euro, we have lost our freedom, our rights, our traditions and our purchasing power! Prices seem to have skyrocketed , increasing by an order of magnitude. We really do have one thing in common: our president is just as incompetent..."
  26. 0
    23 February 2014 10: 03
    The cry of the soul, everything is clear. Protecting Russians on the territory of another state, Putin will not and will not agree to this. The “parts of the world” in Ukraine will have to untangle themselves.
  27. 0
    23 February 2014 14: 18
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Maybe Lavrov, who probably has a villa in Europe and a bank account.

    Unfortunately, you forgot a little! According to the newly adopted law, government employees do not have the right to property abroad! Everyone who was not ready to part with her left the service! Be adequate and do not mislead people!!!!!!!!!!!
  28. Maxim P.
    -1
    23 February 2014 15: 07
    Quote: internatio
    So enlighten us, Maxim, who are illiterate and ignorant.

    Yes, I didn’t call anyone that. Little informed, perhaps, judging by the comments.
    Quote: internatio
    1) The name of the revolution, otherwise they impose such a “bourgeois-nationalist putsch”;

    Events can be given different names. In essence, it is more likely an uprising against dictatorship (for the term “dictatorship” - see Wikipedia).
    Quote: internatio
    2) What will be created as a result, otherwise they will impose “the collapse of Ukraine as a state”;

    I can't see the future. “They are imposing collapse” rather here and on other Russian forums. Most likely there will be democratization of Ukraine, conditions for economic recovery, rapprochement with the European Union and continued cooperation with Russia.
    Quote: internatio
    3) the driving forces and their political goals, otherwise they are imposed by “the storm troopers of the OUN-UPA, KUN, SS, Brotherhood, Freedom and students create a mono-ethnic totalitarian state.”

    The main driving force was the people, to a greater extent Svoboda adhered to them, to a lesser extent to the parties of Klitschko and Yatsenyuk and others. It was a grassroots movement, spontaneous rallies that grew into self-organization, the “Right Sector” and others appeared. In addition, the people had the experience of the “Orange Revolution” - a conversation with the authorities in the central square of the capital. Initially, there were no special goals other than the overthrow of the bandit regime; the rejection of European integration was a secondary reason, the seed. There may be some growth in nationalism, but it will be moderate. Most of the leaders (except Tyagnibok) are not “Westerners”.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 21: 07
      The EU is a NATO economy, against Russia. Russia is the CU. The South-East will not go to the EU, it will go to Russia. And with... The Army wanted the South-East against you!
      So fuck you!
  29. Maxim P.
    -1
    23 February 2014 15: 54
    Quote: Anthropos

    As for the current situation, the meaning of what is happening is clear. There is no talk of any “universal human values”. The “values” of the Ukronazis and the “values” of the Ukro-oligarchs at the moment turned out to be concurrent. And at the same time - anti-people. The irrationality is astonishing. Revolutions usually occur under the slogans of internal confrontation between elites. The revolution in the outlying areas is going on with anti-neighbor slogans. It’s a no brainer that Yanukovych’s idiotism is just an excuse. For what???? This niche is already occupied by the Polensky area. But they can afford it, because to do this they must have at least some kind of economic independence. And, right at this moment, UT is having conversations with Obama and Putin. And on the same topic: what next? Geyrope can’t even feed the poor people, Obama doesn’t even have enough money for its budget, and in a week there will be a new scandal with the national debt. What are you going to live on? Again, like in a fight? Will the Cossacks tease the peasants (eastern proletarians)?
    The problem is that subsistence farming within one country is very expensive. The USSR is an example. Not only do we spend a quarter of our resources on fighting the cold, but there were only 200-300 million consumers. Together with the Ukrainian SSR. Now there is less, so the manufacturing economy is unprofitable. Bringing back integration (RI) would benefit everyone involved. Separately the price is fifty dollars. And in the union - chervonets. A common technological structure, a common culture are a multiplier for the common cause. The result is personal wealth. This, in fact, is the whole interest of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan in Little Russia. And, not enslavement, starvation and lard eating at all.)))
    Yes, without Little Russia it will be a little difficult. Domestic goods will always be more expensive than European, Chinese and Chinese ones. But they will. And on the outskirts of the geyropa, a powerless non-member (associate), on holidays, beads will be given only to the ataman (she). And for you, Maxim, for you personally, your wife (future), your children (God willing), the only thing that will shine is migrant work for the homosexuals of First France. Which, as a nationalist, should be unbearable. Although I admit that maybe you, again, you personally will settle down well. And another 45 MILLION? I hope you have completed the “agreement”? I read it for 6 hours.
    And by the way, don’t be too surprised if you have to boil the kettle on an alcohol lamp on Monday.

    Contempt for Ukraine (and other countries), as well as for the Ukrainian people (and others too) prevents you from objectively perceiving reality. Moreover, make predictions. Chauvinists like you have been believing for a quarter of a century that “they will come crawling to us,” but the end of the world is still not coming in the neighboring states, rather, quite the opposite. Rapprochement with Europe rather than with Russia is more beneficial in the long term for many reasons (this is my opinion), but there is no place to describe this here. I’ve been both there and there, in Europe it’s just better, to put it briefly. Make your country more attractive in all respects, and people will be drawn to you. With my modest person - also a mistake, my wife was very offended by you when I read to her about the “future wife”))). Western Ukraine, with which I am well acquainted, has risen without any industry; countries can live on the tourism business alone, by the way, without any heavy engineering. Yes, many work, including in Russia, this speaks more about the hard work of the population, which does not drink under the fence of an abandoned factory, but is looking for opportunities. Many are abroad, and there even menial labor gives them the opportunity to live better than state employees here and here. I don’t respond to all your messages, I don’t have that much time. And yet - this is a question for you - why are you, the Imperials, so obsessed with the homosexual theme that you find it so close to you?
    1. +1
      23 February 2014 21: 12
      Do you want to go to Europe? Well, if I were Putin, I would block EVERYTHING in the world in this Europe and the Maidan. Eat leaves, collect brushwood, heat the potbelly stove with bricks. Heat the ice and make fuel from it! Oh, yes, ask the USA and the EU to print candy wrappers for you. Heat up the potbelly stove in winter for half an hour so that you can cook some porridge for the kid, and so that you don’t die from the cold.
      And the South-East will live well with Russia!
  30. Maxim P.
    -1
    23 February 2014 16: 29
    Quote: himanru
    You are not right. The Maidan was organized, they acted boldly, brazenly, and used “specific” technologies. But here in the East, people are a little confused... but it’s still hard to wrap their heads around what it will look like. This is active action, this is almost certainly a conflict with law enforcement, this is an armed confrontation, this is a war - Do you understand what kind of responsibility this is? If I am ready for this, are others ready? ... The problem is with the leaders, I believe we can handle it.

    The East and South of Ukraine is similar to Russia in mentality; one of its features is social passivity. This article says it very well:
    “Nothing outrages the Russian man in the street more than undeniable evidence of his slavish obedience - both in the east of Ukraine and in the post-Soviet space as a whole. The events in Kiev highlighted this fundamental problem of our people with dazzling brightness...... if Yanukovych is carried out on gold in the toilet, there will be no split in Ukraine: the West and the center will simply impose their will on the East, and it will accept it without complaint.
    More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/blogs/2014/01/31/1227488.html
  31. 0
    23 February 2014 16: 36
    I feel so sorry for Ukraine. I am a Russian in the “eleventh” generation, an ethnic Little Russian (from Sloboda) I love this culture, I have known the language since childhood and consider myself Russian. What happened is both scary and natural. Indulging the Lembegrzan fascists for 20 years did its job. Now they are celebrating their victory, and behind them the whole West and especially the Americans, the true customers of the coup, are rejoicing. Let them rejoice, this will not last long. There is strength in the truth, but it is not on their side! Now it is important how quickly the healthy forces of Ukraine will be able to consolidate, who will take personal responsibility for its fate. Stop producing talentless and greedy freaks - "Yanukovychs". Russia and we, Russians, will help those who want to help themselves, who will not fall under the Bandera Nazis. Their place is in “Geyrop” and deeper - in rhyme. They sowed the wind well, but they will also reap the storm!
  32. -1
    23 February 2014 17: 46
    Ukraine now doesn’t even have money in its treasury. It’s basically empty - everything was stolen. Ukraine as a state may cease to exist in the near future. But there is still hope.
  33. 0
    23 February 2014 17: 54
    Quote: Santor
    Quote: alexpro66
    Information from a source close to the pope’s circle... I’m sure it’s trustworthy!


    Sir, did your dad stand next to the President and hold his ear to the receiver, or is he the Chief of the General Staff? Where does such a blatant lie come from? Source to the studio.... Or dad's last name....
    This is how disinformation is thrown in... The fact is there, it remains to be interpreted....

    If there are children on this site, then someone might believe it....

    Well, you can’t take everything written literally, sir!! Dad is BB - NOT MY BIRD OR ADOPTION FATHER))
    It’s worth not putting quotation marks in the word dad when you wanted so many names and addresses and appearances)) You are either extremely naive or better informed than my source of information (which I’m very confused about) Or are you looking for government agencies where the leak came from??)) And right away so categorically misleading!!!
    Not dad there for an hour!! I listened to Obama's monologue about how well the Olympic Games went and about the weather and fishing)) (written with sarcasm in case you again take the last sentence literally)
  34. Arh
    +1
    23 February 2014 18: 16
    Death to banderlogs!!!
  35. Maxim P.
    +1
    23 February 2014 22: 13
    Quote: Dimastik
    Ukraine as a state may cease to exist in the near future. But there is still hope.

    You’ve been waiting for 22 years, wait further, or better yet mind your own business, there’s no point in looking through a hole in the fence.
  36. Maxim P.
    -1
    23 February 2014 22: 23
    Quote: Naum
    What happened is both scary and natural. Indulging the Lembegrzan fascists for 20 years did its job. Now they are celebrating their victory, and behind them the whole West and especially the Americans, the true customers of the coup, are rejoicing. Let them rejoice, this will not last long. The power is in the truth, and it is not on their side!

    You poor poor people, how brainwashed you are. I hope that time heals, a week will pass, then a month, a year... Everything will get better. And come to Lviv, a wonderful city.

    The picture shows Lviv through the eyes of Russians.
    1. 0
      23 February 2014 22: 30
      Maxim P
      Most likely, your rose-colored glasses will fall off and very soon
  37. Maxim P.
    -2
    23 February 2014 22: 54
    Quote: Alex Danilov
    Do you want to go to Europe? Well, if I were Putin, I would block EVERYTHING in the world in this Europe and the Maidan. Eat leaves, collect brushwood, heat the potbelly stove with bricks. Heat the ice and make fuel from it!

    Where did this great-power style of ruling the world come from and for what merit? Will we leave Ukraine united or will we divide it, will we let it in or won’t we let it in... And who will you leave the Falkland Islands to - England or Argentina?
    Are the dishes in your kitchen washed?
  38. Jason
    0
    23 February 2014 23: 15
    The worst thing has happened, now that this little trinity has taken power, they will ruin the remains of industry to please the West, turning the country into an agricultural appendage, which will lead to the final impoverishment of the people. Tan will begin to invest money and pump modern weapons into the Ukrainian army (consisting of Maidan militants) and after 5 years, some kind of kaka will want to unleash a victorious war, following the example of Srakashvili, somewhere in the rebellious region. God grant that something like this doesn't happen...
  39. 0
    23 February 2014 23: 31
    You have a bunch of tanks at the Kharkov Armored Station, so you think you should go to that branch. Take the tanks. And wives and children to the border with Russia.
  40. Maxim P.
    -1
    23 February 2014 23: 40
    Quote: sds555
    Most likely, your rose-colored glasses will fall off and very soon

    I remember 9 years ago, during the Orange Revolution, almost the same panicky comments came from Russia. But now it's even worse. Now I’m listening to a certain Igor Korotchenko on “Our Radio”, the “General Staff” program from last night, my ears just wither, lies and zombies in every phrase. If you are fed this every day, I sympathize.
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 17: 05
      Well, Maxim, you gave an example: “Our Radio” also gave me a source))))... of humor. If you think that everything with us is so sad in terms of information/disinformation, you are, to put it mildly, mistaken. You need to think with your head what to watch and listen to; there is enough garbage in the information field of every country in the world. It’s just that some people “eat” and others don’t.
      Why am I doing all this... you yourself know everything, just keep quiet about it, it’s not profitable/unnecessary for you now. There is absolutely (or is it more convenient for you now to say absolutely) “black” or “white” in nature, there are only shades.
  41. Maxim P.
    0
    23 February 2014 23: 46
    Quote: Jason
    The worst thing has happened, now that this little trinity has taken power, they will ruin the remains of industry to please the West, turning the country into an agricultural appendage, which will lead to the final impoverishment of the people. Tan will begin to invest money and pump modern weapons into the Ukrainian army (consisting of Maidan militants) and after 5 years, some kind of kaka will want to unleash a victorious war, following the example of Srakashvili, somewhere in the rebellious region. God grant that something like this doesn't happen...

    And in what, for example, rebellious region will it be possible to unleash a victorious war?
  42. 0
    24 February 2014 00: 01
    How else does one relate to the area, the whole history of which is endless throwing from one bed to another. And, the saddest thing is - voluntarily. Your Yanukovych is just a copy of your history. Criminal past, deceitful present. Even logs deserve more respect. At least they have some principles. They have ALWAYS been Russophobes. And you... By the way, you still haven’t named the Collector of Ukrainian Lands.
    Of course it's better there. In Paris there are 300 sunny days a year, and in St. Petersburg - 8!!! And the annual temperature difference is 8 degrees. And in Siberia there are more than 60 places. The stump is clear, life is easier and better there. But all the places there are already taken. There are NOT 100 million vacancies and beds there. Where can they be employed in your area if, according to the “agreement”, everything is subject to ruin?
    The conclusion is simple: we have been fighting for the survival of the nation for more than a thousand years. You've been kicking ass for the last 800 years and today you've decided to merge completely. And where is “Glory to Ukraine”? Here she is. Although I admit that this is exactly what Bandera’s supporters are trying to achieve. Their ultimate goal is to create a militarized version of a national state, the only income of which will be the trade of their fighters. Well, history knows such examples - Sparta. But this is the Bronze Age.
    In no way did I intend to offend your wife. I highlighted doubts about its presence in brackets in the hope of understanding. In any case, I ask you to “understand and forgive.”)))) All the best, health and good luck to your wife. I hope you get it too.))0
  43. Maxim P.
    -1
    24 February 2014 02: 06
    Quote: Anthropos
    How else does one relate to the area, the whole history of which is endless throwing from one bed to another. And, the saddest thing is - voluntarily. Your Yanukovych is just a copy of your history. Criminal past, deceitful present. Even logs deserve more respect. At least they have some principles. They have ALWAYS been Russophobes. And you... By the way, you still haven’t named the Collector of Ukrainian Lands.

    There were different hetmans, a chronological list and biographies are easy to find. These positions were elective, unlike the tsars - this is the main difference. Their moral qualities were at the level of that era, given the difficult situation of a small state surrounded by strong neighbors, so they had to enter into alliances with one or the other. In general, no better and no worse than Nevsky, Donsky and beyond - the same betrayals, nobility, military victories and failures, diplomacy. If desired, absolutely any political figure of any time can be called a traitor and a liar (type the words “Putin” and “traitor” into Google and read). The main collectors of Russian lands are Ivan the Terrible and Stalin, it seems? - Well, personally, the last thing I would like to do is live in their time.
    Quote: Anthropos
    Of course it's better there. In Paris...

    I'm talking about Hungary, Poland, the Czech Republic. It's not about the climate, but about the general atmosphere of comfort - in civilized countries everything is created for people, and not for itself. There is no ruin observed in the European Union countries, and there will not be any in ours. Even initially poor countries, such as Bulgaria, do not suffer much, why are you predicting a terrible future and ruin for all Ukrainians? Actually, nothing drastic has happened - a democratic uprising, a change of government, but the same neighbors, sales markets, transit, etc. will remain. Yanukovych was one step away from the European Union in November, so why now does the proposed course towards the same cause such emotions? What changed? Oh, the opposition has come to power? Well, “Ukraine is not Russia”, this happens here. Well, I already came in 2005, and what, under the nationalist Yushchenko with his American wife, did the war begin? There was nothing special!
    Quote: Anthropos
    All the best, health and good luck to your wife. I hope it works out for you too.))

    Of course, especially in honor of the holiday. Thank you. By the way, congratulations!
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 06: 59
      Quote: Maxim P.
      The main collectors of Russian lands are Ivan the Terrible and Stalin, it seems? - well, personally, the last thing I would like to live in is their time

      Well, everything is clear with Stalin, a demon and all that, although in my opinion, to paraphrase you, his moral qualities were at the level of that era, given the difficult position of the young state surrounded by friendly neighbors
      Well, what didn’t please Ivan IV Vasilyevich the Terrible?
  44. generalissimo
    0
    24 February 2014 11: 42
    Well, who else, after the shameful flight of the “REZENDENT”-TRAITOR Yanukovych, doubts the justice of folk wisdom:
    1. One HO@@@@OL-gang!
    2. Two HO@@@LA - partisan detachment!
    3. Three HO@@@LA - partisan detachment with a traitor!
  45. 0
    24 February 2014 12: 12
    I wanted to give it a minus, I read it twice, but I won’t give it. The author poured out all the pain and disappointment in this article; a thread of aching pain about loss runs through the entire work... these are the thoughts of a suddenly sober and clear-eyed Man who said what he wanted to say not for points and reputation on the resource, but about the painful thing, what was spinning in my consciousness and gnawing at my soul.

    I don’t see any point in downvoting it - everyone needs to read it. I will not sympathize, I will say - everything will be right as always, everything will rise again and the Ukrainian branch of the Slavic root tree, as old as the World, will bloom and again through the help of Russia, as always in History. Phoenix bird - Russia can only destroy itself completely from the inside to ashes, but rise and through this be reborn and be more beautiful, stronger and purer than it was, fire cleanses. But in such turbulent years, the masses of people suffer, it is they who suffer. It is a pity for the simple masses of ordinary citizens, hunger, disease, crime, uncertainty about Tomorrow... But everything will be Correct as it should be.
  46. 0
    24 February 2014 19: 39
    Quote: Horst78
    Thanks for the advice, but
    Quote: mamba
    But, since you live in Russia, then decide for yourself whether you were inspired by the Russian spirit, whether the Russian mentality is close to you, and whether the Russian idea is important to you?
    how to understand this? What means
    Quote: mamba
    Have you been inspired by the Russian spirit, are you close to the Russian mentality, is the Russian idea important to you?
    ?
    In Siberia, unlike the European part, we have no distinctions between Russian, Ukrainian, or Bashkir. Everything is intertwined here.

    Here in the Urals too!
  47. 0
    25 February 2014 00: 25
    I'm sorry! And let the Ukrainians call me a motskal, but I’m really sorry! It's a shame that under the sweet speeches of foreign ghouls WE ALL forgot that we are not Ukrainians, Russians or Belarusians, WE ARE ALL SLAVS!!! And it’s not the fault of those who don’t remember their kinship that they have forgotten their historical roots! That WE all came from the same foremother land... the Slavic land. How insulting and painful that those intoxicated by pseudo-freedom have forgotten who WE are!
    In religion they say... heaven, hell, judgment day... but it has long come... the judgment day of the Slavic people, and their genocide.
    So, shall we continue to sit and wait until the rot and the Western mob completely eat us up?
  48. generalissimo
    0
    25 February 2014 13: 52
    I see no reason to swear! Historically it was like this: Garny Cossacks sat in the Zaporozhye Sich, wrote letters to the Turkish Sultan and folded figs in their pockets! And he had their relatives and had them as he wanted! Generalissimo Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov, Admiral Ushakov Fedor Fedorovich came with the Russian army and navy, under the patronage of His Serene Highness Prince Potemkin (by the way, buried in Kherson), put the Sultan in an interesting position and took him away! Thus, he liberated the entire northern coast of the Black Sea from the Turks! I can say that your seats are saved from the Turkish lads! As is now becoming clear, your gratitude for this knows no bounds! Well, everything is clear here, lard, pigs, pig habits, well, you love this business, what can you do with you! The fact that Nikotka gave away the entire Russian south to Ukraine from his master’s shoulder does not mean anything, he was not such a master by birth, the same swineherd with swinish habits! So, citizens of Gramod, you will most likely get upset about the northern coast of the Black Sea, don’t fight! And for Bender’s contraceptives, everyone has already had a bullet cast and brilliant green in stock, God forbid any infection gets into their empty head! We will take care of you. Appreciate it!
  49. 0
    26 February 2014 12: 13
    The difference between Bandera, fascists, Nazis and other citizens who do not support them and against whom the putsch was carried out is a decisive willingness to break all existing laws, moral, criminal, and social. The bulk of the population is not ready to break the law and hopes for a miracle that these ghouls will also obey the laws - but this is naive and you need to get out of such a naive stupor before they put a yoke around your neck or hang a tag on your little toe. Wake up, Ukraine!
  50. 0
    26 February 2014 15: 23
    Best friends of Ukraine...
  51. Sova
    0
    26 February 2014 16: 03
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPsVHbN82s&feature=player_embedded
    Watch this video. Was it just me who thought the doctor was describing post-drug withdrawal? He even seems to be hinting. In recent days, mental exacerbations have begun among Maidan protesters. Not only the wounded - EVERYONE! Have you stopped adding drugs to your “herbal tea”? Please note that Maidan supporters lose their memory (!) after two hours of conversation. People are armed and suicidal. And did everyone pay attention to one more moment? The doctor seems to guess or know that the problem is drugs/stimulants, but cannot name it openly. He gives hints and talks about the same thing several times, as if he is afraid that he will not be understood. He seems shocked that this could even happen. Watch your facial expressions: The doctor is SCARED by what he cannot say directly!
  52. Sova
    0
    26 February 2014 16: 05
    1. Every day, 20-50 people are hospitalized from the Maidan to hospitals (go to the Ministry of Health website), and this does not count those who urgently run home. The reason is simple - the opposition removed drugs and stimulants from the diet of the Maidanites. Neurasthenic crisis against the background of drug withdrawal. The “treatment” is simple - tramadol tablets.

    What was included in the diet? Soft drugs and antidepressants were regularly added to food to suppress depression amid the shit around. And hemp was constantly in use on the Maidan. Hence the pots on the head and the colanders. That’s why alcohol was banned in order to get Maidan protesters hooked on drugs. When it was necessary to go on the attack, psychostimulants for special forces were added to the food, suppressing fear and self-preservation instincts.

    “Give me the finances of a country, and I don’t care who runs it,” Amschel Rothschild once said.

    “Give me the opportunity to feed the revolutionaries, and I will make a coup,” I will add.
  53. 0
    27 February 2014 17: 55
    For the triumph of evil, it is enough for worthy people to remain inactive...

    I didn’t say that... That’s all.
  54. BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH
    0
    28 February 2014 11: 21
    Russian is not a nationality, it is a state of mind. Ukrainian is a Russian born on the territory of Ukraine (not to be confused with the Maidan scumbags)
  55. Boris Danilovich
    +1
    28 February 2014 14: 37
    UKRAINE IS AND WILL BE! After all the recent events, it can be stated that Ukraine has succeeded. The avalanche of lies of the Russian propaganda machine is directed at its own people, so that they do not think that “if the Ukrainian brothers were able to drive out their gangster government, then they can too.” There is no national question in Ukraine! Anyone who has been here knows this very well. Rather, Ukrainians endured for 20 years that they were not allowed to be themselves in their own state. The fact that Russia is now whipping up passions in Crimea will not benefit the Russian Federation under any circumstances. Because what you sow is what you reap. It seems that the Russian Federation itself is doing everything so that the old label, “The USSR is an evil empire,” begins to be applied to the Russian Federation itself. You don't have to do this. GLORY TO UKRAINE!
  56. 0
    1 March 2014 02: 14
    But it seems to me that Russia, as always, will find an unexpected and asymmetrical move that will make the West (both European and closer) itchy. GDP is very good at such things! Let's wait until...
  57. Criowoolf
    0
    1 March 2014 05: 24
    I think it’s time for Belarus to hold its own military exercises wink