Euromaidan and the third world

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15 December 2013, 15: 56 (MSK) | Politics | PRIME
European Commissioner Füle: The EU suspends work on an association agreement with Ukraine.
MOSCOW, 15 DEC - RIA News. EU suspends work on an association agreement with Ukraine, European Commissioner Stefan Fule said on Sunday


The situation falls outside Ukraine itself. The state that was created in this form under the USSR, now torn by internal contradictions, is becoming a very unpleasant neighbor. According to many experts, the existence of "nezalezhnoy" becomes every day the crisis less and less relevant. During Euromaidan, it was eaten up by downtime and blocking the work of the 3 parliament with a billion euros. With that, Europe was asked for 60 billions - you know, this amount is lower by an order of magnitude than that which is really needed to modernize the economy. 3 billion euros for comparison - a little more than the annual budget, for example, Krasnoyarsk. European commissioners are not going to pay Ukraine for European integration. In fact, the leaders of Ukraine are put in a "stalemate" situation. They can not join the EU and can not join it. Against this background, the presence of many foreign agents of influence on the Independence itself puts the very notion of “independence” into question.

Who needs all this?


Of course, the first person is Poland. After the state of Ukraine collapses, Poland without hesitation will regain the land, which, in her opinion, has always been Polish. For example, Lviv. The second one is the European Union, whose markets have become so depleted that now even large banks lack customers. Surprising is the behavior of the citizens of Ukraine who are fooled by the "euro-propaganda". They are like small children who do not even want to hear about the poor quality of the toys that they were shown in the store. The third willing, of course, Russia, but she modestly stands aside and waits for a piece, which she relies according to all the rules of political development. The fourth willing is the United States, which will get less than the rest, however, in this field, this willing will try to play, giving loans to new growths, then to milk them.

Neoplasms


Euromaidan and the third world


For example, Ukrainian bloggers see the future of Ukraine. Currently, the donor regions are concentrated in the pro-Russian part. However, it is worth noting that in this case only the yellow part will not be asked back to Russia. In fact, the eastern and south-eastern part consists of the adherents of Russia. In some areas, according to opinion polls, only 40% consider themselves to be citizens of Russia. Really the collapse of Ukraine, in my opinionwill happen if both sides of the conflict reach this point, into three parts. Directly to Russia will be asked south-eastern and eastern Ukraine. The center headed by Kiev will decide to be independent, but under the control of Russia. As for the west of Ukraine, then perhaps the 3 script. The first is full adherence to Poland, full European integration with a fall in the standard of living, or a real annexation by its “well-wishers” in Poland.

The collapse of Ukraine - the springboard for the Third World


All this would not be so important if it were not for the population of our neighbor 45 by millions of people and for the proximity of our borders.

As soon as Ukraine collapses, Russia will have to add to itself, although according to some democratic norms, a part of Ukraine will immediately rise up as a howl of Westernizers. Russia will present an ultimatum, which it will not be able to perform due to inertia of diplomatic processes. In this case, Mr. Putin will have to play an incredibly subtle political game. And I do not really believe that this time he will be able to beat the Americans. And if we are not able to win or at least smooth out the corners of tension in this game, then the world is waiting for the Third World War. Too many interests collide at one point in the world. The 2014 year is a bomb laid back in the 91 year, since the collapse of the USSR. I really want me to be wrong. And I hope that this does not happen. I want to wish all readers happiness in the New Year and well-being to them and their families.
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  1. sxn278619
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    16 December 2013 22: 48
    Leave Ukraine. Let them do what they want.
    Europe with its environmentally friendly products will allow Ukraine to be reborn.
    And Russia’s oil money will go to its pensioners and not to the Ukrainian oligarchs and Yanukovych’s son.
  2. sribnuu
    0
    16 December 2013 22: 55
    Interesting article! But the Ukrainian neighbor is even more interesting) A rich and large country that has a king and oligarchs, who benefit from having the poor and gray masses, does everything to show that everyone has it bad, but everything is good with us. America is the enemy, Ukraine will fall apart, everything is bad in Europe, the Baltic states are bad, etc. (By the way, Kisilev received your Oscar for deception) Don’t worry - Ukraine will not fall apart! And what is happening in Ukraine is a normal social process that awaits Russia in the near future. Love your country! Good luck to the Russians, good luck to the quilted jackets)
  3. -1
    16 December 2013 23: 01
    Russia (the president) is silent, perhaps this is payment for Syria - they “lost” Syria, we let them “amuse themselves” in Ukraine (as is customary nowadays). But, to be honest, the more they “JOY”, the easier it will be for the people of Ukraine (not the Maidanists) to make the right decision. NATO (the Americans), if they try to democratize Ukraine, must understand that the authorities will not ask for this - but the army and navy must carry out the orders of the commander-in-chief. Incl. the best option for transporting troops (by sea) is no longer available, the Ukrainian Navy + the Sevastopol military base of the Russian Navy, no one will give it to them. And if they go “on foot,” then let them remember Yugoslavia - the airborne battalion that put them in a “cancer” position.
    1. +1
      17 December 2013 00: 45
      If the Americans (NATO) climb there, it will not be Yugoslavia, but Ossetia.
    2. Kronid ...
      +2
      17 December 2013 04: 11
      I fully support it, not only they put cancer, but the whole of Europe in 45, and Sashka Suvorov put someone through the Alps!
  4. sxn278619
    +1
    16 December 2013 23: 17
    Tomorrow Putin will give Yanukovych 15 billion. He will take out 3% bonds from the reserve and give them back at 10%. Why?
    Russia needs 5 years to create parallel production, which is only in Ukraine (helicopter engines, etc.). You have to pay for this.
  5. Sax
    Sax
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    16 December 2013 23: 42
    Quote: Landser93
    Hello everyone. What I would like to write to commentators from Russia is how Russian (who I consider myself to be, maybe someone thinks differently about his problems) youth in Ukraine sees these events in Kyiv and Ukraine.


    No matter how old you are, you are great. Albeit confusingly, they sincerely answered almost all questions and claims. Thank you. YOUNG GUY!
  6. -2
    16 December 2013 23: 46
    More likely, another map of current Ukraine in the future:
    1. Transcarpathian Rus - Transcarpathian region - partially
    2. Hungarian part of the Transcarpathian region. - Beregovsky, Vinogradovsky district with a predominantly Hungarian population - will return to Hungary.
    3. Bukovina (Chernivtsi region) + part of Odessa region. - will return to Romania.
    4. Slobozhanshchina - Sumy, partially Chernihiv region.
    5. Galychchyna - Lviv, Ternopil, Rivne, Volyn, Ivano-Frankivsk regions, partially Khmelnitsky region. - they will play with independence and will be eaten by Poland, which considers them to be its “sheltered creatures”.
    6. Crimea - ?
    7. Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Republic - Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov regions.
    8. Tauride Republic - Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson regions.
    7. Sicheslavye - Dnieper region - Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye region.
    8. Ukraine - Kiev region, Poltava region, partially Zhytomyr region, Vinnytsia region and what remains.
    1. Sax
      Sax
      0
      16 December 2013 23: 53
      Dear, believe me, even against the backdrop of the article, your comment... to put it mildly, smells bad. Pick up a map of Ukraine and use it. Boldly. And don't be afraid of anything. The main thing is not to take the bad into your head. Especially on hi night.
    2. chehbass
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      30 January 2014 20: 34
      1. Captain, problems with geography under point 7.
      2. I can’t understand the irrepressible desire to divide something in Ukraine. Do you want to play Romans?
  7. Sax
    Sax
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    17 December 2013 00: 22
    Quote: edeligor
    I don’t argue, maybe you know the story better than me. And if it’s a new story, then 200%! My education is also not parochial and I know how to draw conclusions. Only you and I speak the correct Russian language, but I want my grandchildren not to forget their language and to know that sodomy is a SIN, etc.!

    I answered you, albeit in Ukrainian (as a demonstrator, that I know not only Russian tolerably and that this does not prevent me from being Ukrainian. At the same time, I emphasized that I agree with you that one should not lose one’s roots. As well as morality. However, Mr. Apollo (administrator) deleted my answer to you. Sorry.
  8. Sax
    Sax
    0
    17 December 2013 00: 49
    Dear forum member, who gave me a minus for my agreement that roots should not be lost, I would like to meet you. It's about the fact itself, not about the rating drinks Answer me?
  9. 0
    17 December 2013 01: 51
    Guys, we must not allow the collapse of Ukraine! These are rehearsals for the collapse of Russia! Then all the same technologies work for Russians, slightly adjusted to our society!!! PR people will still find the “key” to our hearts using the example of the Slavic brothers!!!!!!!!!!!
  10. 0
    17 December 2013 02: 46
    I would like to see when the Westerners get to Poland, I wonder what they will sing...
  11. Sax
    Sax
    0
    17 December 2013 02: 47
    Quote: Evkur
    Guys, we must not allow the collapse of Ukraine! These are rehearsals for the collapse of Russia! Then all the same technologies work for Russians, slightly adjusted to our society!!! PR people will still find the “key” to our hearts using the example of the Slavic brothers!!!!!!!!!!!


    "Chief, everything is gone!" This only happens in movies. The main thing is not to worry so much. Go to bed with the thought: - Tomorrow I’ll start a new life, I won’t bully my neighbors, I’ll start hilling my own garden... And to me... People will flock to me! Long live the new life!
    Good night recourse
  12. +1
    17 December 2013 03: 17
    No matter how history develops in Ukraine with its Maidan, this is a big plus for Europe and the states, but for Russia it is a significant cost.
    Our “friends” will not spare any means to create tension at the borders of Russia; everything is good for them, but Russia is bad!
  13. 0
    17 December 2013 03: 55
    oh, they wrote that...another surge in heated discussions of Ukrainian “news”? winked
    On the topic... why discuss it - recently it was under this name - Iran was the beginning of WW3, Syria was the beginning of World War 3... and also the beginning of WW3.. China was, the islands were the beginning of WW3. I see the alarmists can’t wait to declare everything “the Beginning of World War 3”... the law of the genre. Alarmist news is easier to perceive and more interesting to discuss. Look, everyone is discussing Ukraine so much, they are already tired, and then World War 3... and again the soul rushed to heaven!
    Let’s talk about Ukrainian women (well, so that the topic is Ukrainian. Otherwise it’s not a higher education institution but a higher education institution) but not politics... I’m tired already... we’ve already combed all over this politics. All options were measured, all versions were predicted, the smart ones divided everything and drew maps or copied them in Google..
    Of course, it can be discussed that the revolution could lead to the appearance of Yusch 2 (only Tyagnishchrayk will work out cooler). But Yanyk is holding on tight for now.
    In general, let’s better discuss the women. But the people of Ukraine will still elect a president in a year. What kind of idiots are tempting people in the square to stage a coup now, when there are elections in a year? Truly premature birth (Yanyk, by the way, is experienced - he was already “carried out” in such a manner in 2004)
    We need to decide in a civilized manner.
    I liked the comment about the “Russian map”. The person wrote correctly, there is a problem that needs to be solved. The purulent abscess will swell and problems will accumulate. Even our generation not connected with Russia will grow up. And then there are trade wars, difficulties on the border with relatives and other delights.
    In the meantime, let's think about NG soon. My girlfriend could not get a ticket for the trains St. Petersburg Simferopol in 4 days all tickets were sold out (either the season or mass relocation)
    New Years is soon! 2014!
    1. 0
      17 December 2013 11: 56
      Most likely, all Ukrainian migrant workers are going home for the New Year holidays.
  14. 0
    17 December 2013 04: 33
    ha-ha...three billion...people...but the show-off doesn’t really matter...they just ditched the natives wink
  15. 0
    17 December 2013 05: 24
    The most successful way for Ukraine to proceed would undoubtedly be a referendum. (then we would know what the majority thinks) As for the collapse of Ukraine, it most likely will not happen. Like all Slavs, ordinary Ukrainian citizens are inert. Remember the Great October Revolution, because it was actually a minority that won, but they were well organized. Therefore, now Ukraine will sign a nice little agreement with the EU and will also beg the EU to do this. Well then...
  16. 0
    17 December 2013 12: 44
    I live in Donbass. We have never had anything in common with Galicia. Yes, they became Ukraine thanks to the “tyrant” Stalin, and now they are trying to dictate how Ukraine should live and where to move, parasites...
  17. 0
    17 December 2013 14: 41
    Everything will be fine for xoxlove. Putin is preparing a whole package of gifts for them.
  18. 0
    17 December 2013 16: 18
    I repeat. South-Eastern Ukraine has nothing in common with Galicia (which is not Ukraine at all). I don’t care about the negatives for this belief!!!
  19. General Ermolov
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    17 December 2013 16: 37
    Quote: Canep
    Quote: zart_arn
    I agree with you, there are no reasons for inciting hysteria.

    I do not like apocalyptic scenarios. Everyone also thought about Syria that it would not do without an American strike, but it did. The author does not take into account the leadership of Ukraine at all, and the VFJ still obeys and supports their Ministry of Internal Affairs and the army. I think he can restore order. He is held back only by the position of the West - it is impossible to disperse by force. I think Yanukovych deliberately pulled with this refusal, he was waiting for frosts, you can’t do much in the cold. I think he did not stop and will cope with the situation, Putin has never expressed concern about this. There is no separatism in the regions, the exception is Crimea, the leadership there is too nervous.

    there is no Army in Ukraine
    that's the whole problem
    and the cops, unfortunately, also have their own political views and will try to sell their skins at a higher price
  20. 0
    17 December 2013 19: 20
    It’s time to calm down.. The key agreements have been signed and this is just the beginning! Common sense has won.. The three great Slavic peoples will be together in spite of the Anglo-Saxons (and their followers)! Congratulations, guys.. The squealing will begin, of course, but this is secondary..
  21. 0
    24 February 2014 10: 50
    The annexation of Ukraine or any part of it to Poland is complete nonsense of a science fiction writer...