Mikhail Saakashvili: "Russia has no national idea and no future"

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Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili presented his own version of the events that preceded the armed conflict with Russia in August 2008. In a programmatic interview with Georgian journalists, he assured that he had tried with all his might to prevent the war around South Ossetia and was even ready to give Russia guarantees that Georgia would not join NATO, but could not persuade Russian leaders to abandon plans for military intervention.

Mikhail Saakashvili made his sensational confessions in an interview with “Rustavi-2” TV company, which on the eve of it broadcasted an extensive interview with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. Therefore, many in Tbilisi perceived the revelations of the President of Georgia as a kind of response to the statements of the Russian Prime Minister.

Mikheil Saakashvili said that he tried in every way to prevent a war with Russia and even offered President Vladimir Putin (his second presidential mandate 8 on May 2008) to conclude a special agreement on Georgia’s non-accession to NATO - with the condition that Moscow help Tbilisi solve the problems of Abkhazia. and South Ossetia. “Several people from our and the Russian side were present during the negotiations, when Putin replied with a smile:“ We are not changing your territory to your orientation, ”says Mikhail Saakashvili. According to him, during the consultations, both bilaterally and in an expanded format, Vladimir Putin “repeatedly warned about the need to prepare for the“ Kosovo option ”for Abkhazia and South Ossetia,” and once promised to “arrange for Georgia Cyprus.”

Mikhail Saakashvili mentioned his secret message addressed to the President of the Russian Federation. “I proposed to move the Russian peacekeepers in Abkhazia to the Kodor River (approximately 100 km from the Abkhaz-Georgian border.“ Kommersant ”), legalize all sanatoriums and Sukhumi airport to Russian business, open the railway traffic from Russia to Armenia, and in exchange asked only the return of Georgian refugees to the south of Kodor, ”Mikhail Saakashvili recalled, complaining that the secret message“ was published almost immediately in the newspaper Kommersant. ” “Instead of a clear answer, Putin again began to refer to Cyprus and sentence:“ You shouldn’t be afraid, guys, it will not be very painful for you! ”, The President of Georgia was indignant.

According to the Georgian leader, “Putin directly warned US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier about the imminence of the war”, but unlike Rice, who did not believe in these threats and constantly advised the Georgian leadership “not to fall into paranoia ", The head of the German Foreign Ministry" during the meeting in Batumi accurately described how everything will happen, starting with armed provocations of Ossetian separatists to Russian military intervention. "

Relations between Mikhail Saakashvili and Dmitry Medvedev were no less difficult. “After his election as president, I began to call him, and for some reason Putin took the phone, who advised to discuss matters only with him,” the Georgian president assures.

The most vivid impressions left by him from the meeting with Dmitry Medvedev in Astana at the birthday party of Nursultan Nazarbayev. “I invited my colleagues to go to the disco, Medvedev supported me, almost everyone went to the Monaco bar,” recalls Mikhail Saakashvili. According to him, President Medvedev began to dance, and he found the situation appropriate for a frank conversation. “I approached him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to have a heart-to-heart talk, ”the head of Georgia said.“ I say: “We have to discuss everything, because it cannot be worse,” and he suddenly switched to “you” and left: “You are mistaken , Misha, soon you will be much worse! "". Saakashvili in an interview recalled that he had frightened pale then, but Nazarbayev approached him and asked: “Why are you so pale? Medvedev offended? ”And, according to Mikhail Saakashvili, he reassured him,“ barely able to stand on his feet from shock ”:“ Do not pay attention - he is still young, everything is still decided by Putin. ”

Finally, the Georgian president went directly to the August events, telling viewers interesting, from his point of view, details. He remembered that when Russian Tanks began to move towards Tbilisi, the US leadership invited him to evacuate from the presidential palace in a military helicopter. “But I said a firm no,” exclaimed Mikheil Saakashvili proudly.

At the end of the interview, he assured the viewers that "Russia will probably soon leave the North Caucasus and in general it does not have a national idea, and after the discovery of shale gas there is no future either." Mikhail Saakashvili asked compatriots not to judge him harshly. "I will judge only storyand she will prove that I was absolutely right, ”the outgoing president of Georgia assured.
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  1. And raid
    +1
    9 August 2013 13: 41
    Who is this guy in the photo? Why does his opinion bother everyone? What does the leader from the ivory coast think about this wire?
  2. +3
    9 August 2013 13: 42
    Ssykashvili: “Guys! I didn’t even notice how I ended up in such a... OPE!”
  3. grafrozow
    +3
    9 August 2013 13: 47
    The head of the German Foreign Ministry “during a meeting in Batumi described exactly how everything would happen, from armed provocations of Ossetian separatists to Russian military intervention.”
    It’s a shame Misha didn’t listen to the Germans, they know exactly how it ends. Torpedo tubes - TOVS!!!
  4. +2
    9 August 2013 13: 49
    The person who was appointed president of Georgia at the Federal Reserve cannot and does not have the right to speak differently, just like Yuschinka.
  5. +1
    9 August 2013 13: 50
    >>
    Is it even worth paying attention to the statements of a figure who has already been blown away, having completely discredited himself, having screwed up both in foreign policy with his adventure in South Ossetia and in his domestic policy before the eyes of the whole world! And his prophecies, as a predictor as mediocre as a politician, are unlikely to deserve serious attention. They are the result of an ineradicable desire - leaving to once again spoil Russia in revenge!
  6. duke
    +1
    9 August 2013 13: 52
    this tie-chew, not to say worse, has no future, the Turks have already bought up the entire south of Georgia and if this pretzel twitches, they will simply send troops first into Adjara, and then further as they promised. And if this crooked man escapes to America, then the Georgians will have nowhere to run and again - Russian brother help... And in such a situation, this provocateur still talks about who has and who does not have a future... it’s simply amazing...
  7. -4
    9 August 2013 14: 18
    But he's right. The demand for Russian gas and EVERYTHING will end. The "pedros" ball will burst.
  8. +2
    9 August 2013 14: 26
    Give guarantees about not joining NATO. Promising doesn't mean getting married!
  9. +2
    9 August 2013 14: 31
    It’s a pity that I didn’t get to say: “a dog’s death!” Well, what else can you talk about: the crazy nonsense of a madman!
  10. +3
    9 August 2013 14: 31
    We really have problems with the national idea now...
  11. 0
    9 August 2013 14: 32
    His judgments about shale gas are reminiscent of the village fool's arguments "On the influence of moonlight on the sex life of a grasshopper"
    1. +1
      9 August 2013 22: 34
      Explain what the minus is for!
  12. +1
    9 August 2013 14: 35
    I approached him and started dancing too. Then he sat him down, put his hand on his knee and offered...

    Your will Mischo, but it’s no wonder you get an “aggressive reaction” back. We don’t know about you, the tolerant people, but they only talk us girls into it!
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  14. +1
    9 August 2013 14: 42
    Whose cow would moo, and who would be silent...
  15. Peaceful military
    +3
    9 August 2013 14: 45
    Paranoid delirium. How do choleric dahlias tolerate this substance for so long?
    And here in Estonia, until recently, the titular people squealed that Georgia is an example of democracy, economic prosperity and sanity of leadership. And the titular fascist, one of the ideologists of the local fascist policy of “clearing the ground”, former secretary of the Komsomol committee at the University of Tartu, current semi-vegetable (a stroke happened out of fear) and at the same time the director of the State Bank, M. Laar, was an adviser to Saakashvili before the war.
    Lord, some kind of madness is triumphant.
  16. +1
    9 August 2013 14: 50
    Saakashvili, burn in hell, mad dog! am
  17. 0
    9 August 2013 14: 58
    If the Georgian Misha really speaks out like that (in the article written above). Well, he definitely needs a psychiatrist so that he can chew his tie in a separate room until his last days.
  18. +4
    9 August 2013 14: 58
    I have a ram living in my dacha, his name is Mishka, I wanted to rename him Mikhail Nikolozovich, but it’s just awkward in front of the animal.
  19. +2
    9 August 2013 15: 12
    Is Misha the only one who reminds me of a gay guy?
  20. grafrozow
    +3
    9 August 2013 15: 27
    Misha, come to Kharkov, it’s good here.
  21. Yariath
    +1
    9 August 2013 15: 41
    Amused Miho laughing Article "+" for a good mood.
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  23. Vlad_Mir
    +2
    9 August 2013 15: 48
    Misha forgot the old Russian proverb: “After a fight, don’t wave your fists”! This "waving" just smells bad now!
  24. +1
    9 August 2013 15: 52
    Saakashvili asked his compatriots not to judge him harshly. “Only history will judge me, and it will prove that I was absolutely right,” assured the Georgian president, who will soon leave his post.


    I feel sorry for Georgia itself (this statement in no way applies to the person of Saakashvili!!!) because the US protectorate will not last forever, and it itself is breathing normally, its influence in the world is weakening and the role of Georgia in this story, like that of any political prostitute of the states, will ultimately remain with BROKEN TIN! so history will be the judge, and there is no doubt about it, bear! the time will come and they will come for you!
  25. +2
    9 August 2013 16: 17
    Misha, what a fool you were and still are
  26. +1
    9 August 2013 16: 57
    Why are they laughing? After all, we really don’t have a national idea. And without an idea, we are not a people, but a territory
  27. +2
    9 August 2013 17: 02
    Saakashvili: “Russia needed a war to control us, and for this they decided to tear away Abkhazia and South Ossetia. They have been preparing for war since 2005.”
    From a sick head to a healthy ...
  28. Volkhov
    0
    9 August 2013 17: 06
    Judging by the wave of anti-Georgian comments, Saakashvili has retained enough influence to block military transit to Turkey and restrictions to Armenia and greatly irritates the warmongers. There seems to be no reason for the overthrow, but as long as it goes away, time will be lost and the terrorists will be left without support.
  29. dpwPOL
    +1
    9 August 2013 17: 47
    Will someone shoot this already? Why even publish this? (((
  30. Alexdragon
    0
    9 August 2013 18: 26
    vile, lying man. God will judge the criminal, not history.
  31. escobar
    +2
    9 August 2013 18: 37
    Russia at one time saved Georgians from the Ottomans not to listen to this nonsense. Ungrateful and narrow-minded...
  32. GEO
    GEO
    +1
    9 August 2013 18: 42
    Stop dragging all sorts of crap onto the site! am
  33. 0
    9 August 2013 18: 45
    According to him, President Medvedev began to dance, and he considered the situation suitable for a frank conversation. “I went up to him and started dancing too. Then he sat him down, put his hand on his knee and offered to have a heart-to-heart talk,” said the head of Georgia. “I said: “We need to discuss everything, because things can’t get worse,” and he suddenly switched to “you” and said: “You’re wrong.” “Misha, you will soon feel much worse!” Saakashvili recalled in an interview that he turned terribly pale then, but Nazarbayev approached him and asked: “Why are you so pale? Did you offend Medvedev?” And he himself, according to Mikheil Saakashvili, reassured him, “who could barely stand on his feet from shock”: “Don’t pay attention - he’s still young, Putin still decides everything.”

    Mishiko, you're smoking heavily there, huh?
  34. Backfire
    -5
    9 August 2013 18: 59
    Does anyone really have a shred of doubt that the war of 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX was first provoked and then started by the Russian leadership and Putin personally?
    I don’t write “Russia” because most Russians needed this war like Putin needed your problems.

    Just like what we call World War II was started not by Germany and the USSR, but by the world’s financial elites.
    They just started showing Georgia’s response on TV, starting on August 8, and what happened before that was silent.
    About the shelling of Georgian territory, about the pre-concentrated Russian Armed Forces. About pre-deployed aircraft.

    Read for example here: http://
    argumentua.com/stati/podzhigateli-8-mifov-o-rossiisko-gruzinskoi-voine-080808


    And most importantly, what did this give to the people of Russia? And instead of dealing with the country’s problems, Caucasians in Russia are already almost masters!
    1. -1
      9 August 2013 20: 49
      Dear, tell me all this in the glorious city of Detroit hi .Well, then remember how your most tolerant and democratic Amer media showed footage of Russian and other channels with interlinear text indicating the time and place of action, while saying that this is Burn or some other place. Of course, it is clear that for the sixpack community This statement is the norm. Sincerely. hi P.S. There is no need to teach how to live with your internal problems, first figure it out
    2. 0
      9 August 2013 23: 07
      Did Russia also shell Tskhinvali?
    3. Tolik.Skiff.
      0
      10 August 2013 00: 54
      Maybe we bombed Hiroshima and Nagosaki???!! Children in Vietnam were burned with napalm??!! And when the Americans attacked the Far East at the beginning of the 20th century and killed Russian children and mothers, we are also to blame??? You give us a couple more Attribute the tens of millions of Indians you killed...Democracy...You haven’t had it for a long time and in the government there are only paranoiacs and old idiots...Everything is like we once had in the USSR...
    4. -1
      10 August 2013 01: 41
      Quote: Backfire
      : http: //
      argumentua.com/stati/podzhigateli-8-mifov-o-rossiisko-gruzinskoi-voine-080808

      What is written there is reminiscent of Sukashvili’s speeches. It was especially funny about our destroyed column, where out of 120 tanks, half of them were allegedly burned... smile
      I don’t write “Russia” because most Russians needed this war like Putin needed your problems.

      It always surprises me why people overseas know better what I (as a representative of the people) need than I know myself... smile
  35. +2
    9 August 2013 19: 00
    Good day to all! I liked the reaction of forum members to Saakashvili’s maxims and revelations. good
    But despite the fact that most of his offended speeches are just his attempt to shift responsibility for the 2008 war. "from a sore head" (Georgia) "to a healthy one", himself analysis of all events before the war/conflict, during and after it is very useful.
    The personality of the President of Georgia himself does not evoke sympathy from anyone here on the forum.
    But what, re-reading now, description of the events of 2008 from forum members, I personally am afraid the fact that our native Ukraine (more precisely, its political elite, independent from the people), in some 6-8 years, will go "on the Georgian path" and will step on exactly the same rake, i.e. at the instigation of the “democratic West” and the feeling of hopelessness for political prostitutes, will try to fight with Russia. am
    Not caring about what they watered. ambitions and sins, the Kiev authorities will pay with the blood of their Ukrainian and Russian soldiers (essentially Slavic brothers)!
    Well, it’s self-evident that the children and nephews of Kyiv politicians, after all, won’t climb into the trenches and under bullets...
    Because when I look from the outside at how, despite any efforts and steps of Moscow, Minsk, official Kyiv itself, stupidly strives to the West, I don’t have a good feeling. negative
  36. 0
    9 August 2013 19: 32
    A huckster, a chatterbox, a liar and generally a worthless person and there is no point in spending time discussing his chatterbox.
  37. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 04
    So I look at his photograph and think - what other face could a man who ate his tie have!
  38. +1
    9 August 2013 20: 09
    We all despise Sakashvilli..He has long been a political corpse..Aren’t we tired of the Slavs??? don’t disgrace yourself..Many have already kicked this corpse several times..Calm down.please.he’s not worth it..This is what I mean now, it’s just that many Georgians (ordinary people) are reading you..I’m not even pleased and ashamed anymore..enough get rid of yourself..people!!
  39. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 10
    The dog barks, the wind blows, he has no choice but to ramble in vain.
  40. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 15
    Sahaka can be a biter.
    Only from the life of a dog.
    Only from life, from the life of a dog
    Saaka can be... biters!
  41. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 35
    “I went up to him and started dancing too. Then he sat him down, put his hand on his knee and offered to have a heart-to-heart talk........ did this proud child of the mountains understand what he said?
  42. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 40
    The paranoid is the same as his owners. They quietly among themselves, and this one crawled out onto the roost.
  43. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 45
    Nasty harek.... nothing more to say
  44. 0
    9 August 2013 20: 54
    Quote: If you remove all the lies from history, this does not mean at all that only the truth will remain - as a result, there may be nothing left at all... These words fully correspond to the “historical memories” of the President of Georgia. His narration is reminiscent of a schoolboy’s essay on the topic: how I spent the summer of 2008. This is an attempt to look decent. But we remember the famous “eating” of one’s own tie. And most importantly: not a word about the destruction of civilians by "Grads".
    “Only history will judge me, and it will prove that I was absolutely right.” Saakashvili said. Let him judge and condemn, there is no doubt about that.
  45. 0
    9 August 2013 21: 01
    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 'sthsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss]ss
  46. sterlingmk1
    +1
    9 August 2013 21: 04
    Come on, he’s a gopnik, whose death the elders sent to get to the bottom of the guy passing by. And he tapped him in the snout and shoved it in his throat. The elders looked around the corner and did not come out.....
  47. wow
    0
    9 August 2013 21: 38
    You,...damn have it!
  48. +1
    9 August 2013 22: 06
    Parasite Saakashvili, don’t meddle in Russia’s affairs! Little jackal, don’t bare your teeth at the bear, after the first roar you’ll run away, whining and tucking your tail. Yes, and take care of your eggs. They told you that Putin decides everything, but he doesn’t waste words. So you will soon need them for the finishing touch.
  49. 0
    9 August 2013 22: 08
    He recalled that when Russian tanks began moving towards Tbilisi, the US leadership offered him evacuation from the presidential palace by military helicopter. “But I said a firm no,” Mikheil Saakashvili exclaimed proudly.
    In my opinion, he was so paralyzed with fear that he could not answer anything, and the silence was interpreted as “no” wink
  50. Containers
    0
    9 August 2013 22: 37
    I would really like him to be judged not only by history, but also by a tribunal.
  51. alex popov
    0
    9 August 2013 23: 06
    “But I said a firm no,” Mikheil Saakashvili exclaimed proudly.

    We saw this "proud no")))
    Maybe he wanted to say: “no, no helicopters, only teleportation”? I haven’t had so much fun reading interviews with “politicians, if I may say so”)))
    1. grafrozow
      0
      10 August 2013 00: 36
      Quote: alex popov
      Maybe he wanted to say: “no, no helicopters, only teleportation”? I haven't had this much fun in a long time
      There was a helicopter, but the kerosene ran out.
      Secret American development - presidential tow truck.
  52. alex popov
    0
    9 August 2013 23: 11
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    Also, all sorts of tolerant countries give him orders so that he can live comfortably and joyfully.

    No, the order is stooped and posthumous.
  53. 0
    9 August 2013 23: 40
    Chain of the Order of Merit pro Merito Melitensi (Order of Malta, 2005)
    Order of the Cross of the Land of Mary (Estonia, 2007)
    Order of Merit of the Republic of Poland (Poland, 2008)
    Order of St. Mark the Apostle (Alexandrian Orthodox Church, 2008)
    Anniversary medal “10 years of Astana” (Kazakhstan, 2008) (until 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX all CIS presidents received)
    Order of Honor (Armenia, 2009)
    Gold Medal of Yerevan State University (Armenia, 2009)
    Cross of Recognition (Latvia, 2009)
    Order of the Republic (Moldova) (2010)
    Order of the Legion of Honor (France) (2011)
    Ribbon of the Order of the Republic of Serbia (Serbia) (2013)

    just for those who are interested. admire who gave him orders
    1. 0
      9 August 2013 23: 59
      It’s clear with the majority. But “brother Serbs”, why?
  54. Tolik.Skiff.
    0
    10 August 2013 00: 29
    These “friends” present and “future” from Tbilisi need to be reminded of the fate of Nagosaka and Hiroshima...Why is it possible for the Amers, but not for us?!!Everyone is arming and arming...Look, Georgian “warriors”, when the red-hot metal will not melt you will splash the official American uniform!!! hi
  55. grafrozow
    0
    10 August 2013 00: 31
    The US leadership offered him evacuation from the presidential palace by military helicopter. “But I said a firm no,” Mikheil Saakashvili exclaimed proudly.
    Do you think it’s you who has problems? That’s who has problems, and you have troubles. Well, something like that.
  56. 0
    10 August 2013 03: 00
    It would be nice for Saakashvili to tell how he liberated Adjara with the help of race-based Christ-sellers, and how Abashidze was betrayed. It would be very interesting.
  57. 0
    10 August 2013 03: 03
    It would be nice if Srakoshvili told how he liberated Adjara with the help of the Rasei Democrats.
  58. 0
    10 August 2013 22: 42
    Monkey. But the majority of Georgians are very supportive of him, remember the Georgian singers and actors, they are very nationalistic, now nothing threatens them. When the Turks wanted to assimilate them, they ran to the Russian Tsar! Now let them go far and for a long time.
  59. 0
    11 August 2013 05: 31
    Lying, dog!
  60. 0
    11 August 2013 18: 52
    How do they even get elected president with such a stupid face?
    1. 0
      11 August 2013 22: 37
      From the Maidan.
  61. 0
    13 August 2013 15: 30
    “Russia has no national idea and no future” - Russia has no future without a national idea.
  62. 0
    13 August 2013 19: 09
    Quote: Mechanic
    Quote: mcvdvlad
    no, well, maybe it was like that, I have no doubt that our people knew and prepared, from the side of the GDP, it would be right to cut the knot in one fell swoop, and not try to unravel for many decades
    That is why the sweet couple stopped the troops in front of Tbilisi.

    Well, what a sweet couple!? 7 Apparently you watch TV and read newspapers in the morning! "Dad" one - BB the second is just a puppet with an ambitious team and nothing more! BB had to almost literally “kick” and swear at DM so that he would change his diaper and “give” the order to use force (after all, he was the commander-in-chief at that time). And then for good luck))!! Coincidentally, we had “exercises” side by side))) Or do we have naive people on our forum who believe that in two days without preliminary preparation it was possible to transfer half of the 58th Army to South Ossetia??? Well, if you don’t know what our military dinosaur is, you can probably be so naive1 The capture of Tbilisi was not initially planned (although jokers suggested that the BB stop the troops at the Stone Stele above Tbilisi (where the observation deck for tourists is) to see where Misha would run!)) Generally active actions Only DM tried to avoid it - he kept offering to chew snot and consult with you! Moreover, these actions were expected from Misha back in April - and they were ready! You saw for yourself how you carried out everything planned—you almost crap your pants in the first two days! Well then the general’s “old guard” helped and put things in order! A separate anecdote of the “Vostok” battalion - I think so if they had launched it right away, we would have had no losses on the ground at all - but they were launched as “normal heroes” bypassing - so the Chechen fellows stopped every Georgian they met and forced them to call friends and relatives on their mobile phones and report that the Chechens are coming and God forbid they injure or kill someone, there will be blood feud!)) - as a result, they just walked in front of them like in a parade and not in front of our units, the Georgians darted from Gori to the Turkish border, abandoning everything!! The information is accurate from My mother-in-law is a Mingrelian - all her relatives are from Gori and Zugdidi!
  63. 0
    14 August 2013 15: 04
    Go ape. Both Misha and Dima, as they say: “two boots are a match.”
    One openly strokes his knees and in a languid voice suggests “opening up, having a heart-to-heart talk.” The second one, in response, begins to become hysterical and yell that soon they will all be fucked.
    It’s scary to realize that such people have decided and continue to decide the economic and geopolitical priorities of entire states.