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Mikhail Saakashvili: "Russia has no national idea and no future"

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Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili presented his own version of the events that preceded the armed conflict with Russia in August 2008. In a programmatic interview with Georgian journalists, he assured that he had tried with all his might to prevent the war around South Ossetia and was even ready to give Russia guarantees that Georgia would not join NATO, but could not persuade Russian leaders to abandon plans for military intervention.


Mikhail Saakashvili made his sensational confessions in an interview with “Rustavi-2” TV company, which on the eve of it broadcasted an extensive interview with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. Therefore, many in Tbilisi perceived the revelations of the President of Georgia as a kind of response to the statements of the Russian Prime Minister.

Mikheil Saakashvili said that he tried in every way to prevent a war with Russia and even offered President Vladimir Putin (his second presidential mandate 8 on May 2008) to conclude a special agreement on Georgia’s non-accession to NATO - with the condition that Moscow help Tbilisi solve the problems of Abkhazia. and South Ossetia. “Several people from our and the Russian side were present during the negotiations, when Putin replied with a smile:“ We are not changing your territory to your orientation, ”says Mikhail Saakashvili. According to him, during the consultations, both bilaterally and in an expanded format, Vladimir Putin “repeatedly warned about the need to prepare for the“ Kosovo option ”for Abkhazia and South Ossetia,” and once promised to “arrange for Georgia Cyprus.”

Mikhail Saakashvili mentioned his secret message addressed to the President of the Russian Federation. “I proposed to move the Russian peacekeepers in Abkhazia to the Kodor River (approximately 100 km from the Abkhaz-Georgian border.“ Kommersant ”), legalize all sanatoriums and Sukhumi airport to Russian business, open the railway traffic from Russia to Armenia, and in exchange asked only the return of Georgian refugees to the south of Kodor, ”Mikhail Saakashvili recalled, complaining that the secret message“ was published almost immediately in the newspaper Kommersant. ” “Instead of a clear answer, Putin again began to refer to Cyprus and sentence:“ You shouldn’t be afraid, guys, it will not be very painful for you! ”, The President of Georgia was indignant.

According to the Georgian leader, “Putin directly warned US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier about the imminence of the war”, but unlike Rice, who did not believe in these threats and constantly advised the Georgian leadership “not to fall into paranoia ", The head of the German Foreign Ministry" during the meeting in Batumi accurately described how everything will happen, starting with armed provocations of Ossetian separatists to Russian military intervention. "

Relations between Mikhail Saakashvili and Dmitry Medvedev were no less difficult. “After his election as president, I began to call him, and for some reason Putin took the phone, who advised to discuss matters only with him,” the Georgian president assures.

The most vivid impressions left by him from the meeting with Dmitry Medvedev in Astana at the birthday party of Nursultan Nazarbayev. “I invited my colleagues to go to the disco, Medvedev supported me, almost everyone went to the Monaco bar,” recalls Mikhail Saakashvili. According to him, President Medvedev began to dance, and he found the situation appropriate for a frank conversation. “I approached him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to have a heart-to-heart talk, ”the head of Georgia said.“ I say: “We have to discuss everything, because it cannot be worse,” and he suddenly switched to “you” and left: “You are mistaken , Misha, soon you will be much worse! "". Saakashvili in an interview recalled that he had frightened pale then, but Nazarbayev approached him and asked: “Why are you so pale? Medvedev offended? ”And, according to Mikhail Saakashvili, he reassured him,“ barely able to stand on his feet from shock ”:“ Do not pay attention - he is still young, everything is still decided by Putin. ”

Finally, the Georgian president went directly to the August events, telling viewers interesting, from his point of view, details. He remembered that when Russian Tanks began to move towards Tbilisi, the US leadership invited him to evacuate from the presidential palace in a military helicopter. “But I said a firm no,” exclaimed Mikheil Saakashvili proudly.

At the end of the interview, he assured the viewers that "Russia will probably soon leave the North Caucasus and in general it does not have a national idea, and after the discovery of shale gas there is no future either." Mikhail Saakashvili asked compatriots not to judge him harshly. "I will judge only историяand she will prove that I was absolutely right, ”the outgoing president of Georgia assured.
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  1. Airman
    Airman 9 August 2013 09: 40 New
    29
    All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.
    1. Refund_SSSR
      Refund_SSSR 9 August 2013 09: 43 New
      52
      Quote: Povshnik
      he is not capable of more.

      He could be a great example.
      It is a pity, of course, that he was not hanged as a war criminal on Tbilisi Square, so that it would be disgraceful for others to offend the dwarf people of the former USSR (a hint at Transnistria)
      1. domokl
        domokl 9 August 2013 09: 57 New
        15
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        It is a pity, of course, that he was not hanged as a war criminal in Tbilisi Square

        There will be a day, there will be food. Very soon, not the hangar, but Mishiko’s prison cell is provided. Moreover, not Russian, but his own, Georgian.
        Events are developing so that this is the only way to continue his life in the homeland.
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 9 August 2013 10: 04 New
          15
          Yes, he’s emigrating somewhere and will live like Gorby ... Also, all tolerant countries give orders to him to live comfortably and joyfully.
          Such bastards for some reason do not die. There is no justice in the world.
          1. Airman
            Airman 9 August 2013 10: 10 New
            +9
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Yes, he’s emigrating somewhere and will live like Gorby ... Also, all tolerant countries give orders to him to live comfortably and joyfully.
            Such bastards for some reason do not die. There is no justice in the world.

            Yes, not somewhere, but to the Americans, but they don’t like losers there.
          2. Vadivak
            Vadivak 9 August 2013 11: 09 New
            13
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Such bastards for some reason do not die.


            There would be a desire, and there already according to Lermontov

            "But the evil bullet Ossetian caught up with him in the darkness ..."
          3. OTTO
            OTTO 9 August 2013 11: 59 New
            +8
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Let him emigrate somewhere and live like Gorby ...

            He will write books about evil Russian and ungrateful Georgians, and discuss how well Georgia would have lived if he had remained in power.
          4. mnn_13
            mnn_13 9 August 2013 12: 05 New
            +3
            Such bastards for some reason do not die.

            There is only one answer - God does not need them. Empty will live for more than 80 years ...
          5. avdkrd
            avdkrd 9 August 2013 21: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            Yes, he’s emigrating somewhere and will live like Gorby ... Also, all tolerant countries give orders to him to live comfortably and joyfully.

            It is unlikely that Srakoshvili in this situation most closely resembles a used condom. No one stores such things, and the condom order with a hole is beyond good and evil ....
        2. alex13-61
          alex13-61 9 August 2013 10: 35 New
          +3
          Misha, you see, again gluttoned his ties ... and forgot who the conflict unleashed.
          Quote: domokl
          Events are developing so that this is the only way to continue his life in the homeland.

          Smells fried - dump in tan.
          1. alex13-61
            alex13-61 9 August 2013 10: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: alex13-61
            dumped in tan.

            They published, for some reason, in this version ... the US version was written ...
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 9 August 2013 15: 39 New
              +1
              meant pindosТАН .... out of habit ....
          2. Alexander Romanov
            9 August 2013 11: 25 New
            +8
            Quote: alex13-61
            ..and forgot who that conflict unleashed.

            He remembers his tie and knows who unleashed, but he likes the role of the victim, not the aggressor.
            1. svp67
              svp67 9 August 2013 11: 33 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              He remembers his tie and knows who unleashed, but he likes the role of the victim, not the aggressor.
              In this reality - YES, but he was preparing for the role of the winner, and here ... Honestly, the tie was edible ...
            2. Ivan.
              Ivan. 9 August 2013 12: 44 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              but he likes the role of the victim

              So he is one of those ... yeah ... what
              1. ramzes1776
                ramzes1776 9 August 2013 14: 44 New
                +4
                Quote: Ivan.
                So he is one of those ... yeah ...

                Or maybe of these ..... belay
                “I went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to talk heart to heart, ”the head of Georgia said.
        3. Natalia
          Natalia 9 August 2013 11: 01 New
          43
          Version of Mikhail Saakashvili (Shpilivili)

          We left Tskhinvali without panic,
          I’m a cook for Saakashvili.
          Like passengers on the Titanic
          When they drowned in the sea

          And the fact that the equipment with weapons
          Mi threw along the road
          So it was not necessary for us
          After all, the commandos are fed feet.

          Georgian special forces soldiers
          Gori retreated to the side,
          Kagda Russian paratroopers
          They were suddenly attacked like that.

          They are with sapper boots
          They went on the attack like a frayer,
          Receptions are these illegal
          Instructor taught us.

          We were not ready for this
          After all, we were taught to fight,
          With a woman and little kids
          Again we had to run away.

          We are turning to America
          EU, and papua
          You look like hysterical
          The republic’s head beats.

          We need to get together
          And put pressure on Russia
          To ban Russian paratroopers
          Beat the Georgians with a shovel.

          It's just a mockery
          Shovel in the face for the third time,
          Over this stupid circumstance
          The whole Caucasus is already laughing.
          ..... hurtful yes.
          1. eplewke
            eplewke 9 August 2013 13: 59 New
            +4
            Natalya, you have a talent ...
            1. Natalia
              Natalia 9 August 2013 14: 48 New
              +4
              Quote: eplewke
              Natalya, you have a talent ...

              There is such a thing. Thank you bully )))
              1. Alexander Romanov
                9 August 2013 16: 24 New
                +3
                Quote: Natalia

                There is such a thing. Thank you

                And thanks to me, well, for no reason winked
                1. Natalia
                  Natalia 9 August 2013 16: 50 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And thanks to me, well, for no reason

                  Nuuu ... thank you separate Sasha, as a comrade bully
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    9 August 2013 17: 02 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Natalia
                    like a comrade

                    I will accept for a compliment, drinks
        4. Ruslan_F38
          Ruslan_F38 9 August 2013 17: 28 New
          0
          Quote: domokl
          Quote: We refund_SSSR
          It is a pity, of course, that he was not hanged as a war criminal in Tbilisi Square

          There will be a day, there will be food. Very soon, not the hangar, but Mishiko’s prison cell is provided. Moreover, not Russian, but his own, Georgian.
          Events are developing so that this is the only way to continue his life in the homeland.


          Most likely this freak will dump in the USA or England and will be there rocking up on us. So you need to eliminate it, the benefit of the experience of the Russian special services is not to occupy. Dog, dog death.
          1. builder
            builder 9 August 2013 20: 27 New
            +1
            Most likely this freak will dump in the USA or England and will be there rocking up on us. So you need to eliminate it, the benefit of the experience of the Russian special services is not to occupy. Dog, dog death.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        9 August 2013 11: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        It is a pity, of course, that he was not hanged as a war criminal in Tbilisi Square

        Not sure if he will die by his own death and in the wild. Noriega is an example to both Sadam and Gaddafi.
        1. mnn_13
          mnn_13 9 August 2013 11: 50 New
          16
          And I'm sure that he will die from his death. Comparing this corrupt creature with the Gardens, Noriega or Kadafu I think quite wrongfully. Such corrupt people are very well aware of how to save themselves. You, comrade Marshal, didn’t see the video where Mr. President escaped from the Russian bombers so fast that the guards didn’t have time to catch up ...
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 9 August 2013 12: 31 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Not sure if he will die by his own death and in the wild.

          Sasha, for me, how did he come from? wink , let it go there. It was not for him to talk about the future of Russia; he took away the idea and future from the Georgians.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            9 August 2013 12: 33 New
            +4
            Quote: Tersky
            , he took away the idea and future from the Georgians.

            Vitya, and the Georgians have had an idea since the collapse of the USSR what
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 9 August 2013 17: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and Georgians have had an idea since the collapse of the USSR

              Georgians have yes, (normal relations with Russia), Georgia does not.
      3. Rink
        Rink 9 August 2013 12: 45 New
        +5
        Mikhail Saakashvili: "Russia has no national idea and no future"


        Ha, Mishenka got crazy!
        Have you already eaten all the gastuki?

        Like this bastard has a future!
        By the way, the national idea in Russia is quite ambitious, of a civilizational plan. But how did the traitor of the Georgian people, the Americanized Narcissus, know about this? His own "national idea" is primitive and consists in a confrontation with Russia, to the detriment of even the national interests of Georgia itself. "To spite my mother frostbite ears!"

        Who ever pulls out, brings to the surface nobody's interesting "sayings" of this clinical psychopath, clown and "tie eater"? He has neither strength, nor weight, nor respect, - how does he come to the surface in the media ?!
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 9 August 2013 16: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Skating rink
          Ha, Mishenka got crazy!
          Have you already eaten all the gastuki?

          No, I couldn’t stick out of my ties like that. It is visible also smoked something.
      4. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 9 August 2013 22: 11 New
        0
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        It is a pity, of course, that he was not hanged as a war criminal on Tbilisi Square, so that it would be disgraceful for others to offend the dwarf people of the former USSR (a hint at Transnistria)


        I agree with you. But since it didn’t work out, we’ll do it according to European standards - we will send him humanitarian aid - we take off our old ties, salt and send :)
    2. klimpopov
      klimpopov 9 August 2013 09: 45 New
      28
      He lured already! It’s time for the firebox! And the erysipelas this second day on Topvar hangs.
      1. alone
        alone 9 August 2013 09: 47 New
        12
        it’s impossible to get into the furnace, the chimney will become clogged. better in an acid vat
        1. Grenader
          Grenader 9 August 2013 09: 50 New
          15
          For that, Georgia and Saakashvili have national ideas before yy - in which position it is more interesting to give up the SPS.
          1. Corsair5912
            Corsair5912 9 August 2013 17: 46 New
            +3
            Quote: Grenader
            For that, Georgia and Saakashvili have national ideas before yy - in which position it is more interesting to give up the SPS.

            In the Russian Empire, Georgia was famous for its princes, all who had a shack, trousers, a shirt and a dagger were princes.
            In the USSR, Georgia ranked first in the production of thieves-in-law.
            Mishiko included them in the number of export goods of sovereign Georgia.
            Find suckers and sit on their neck, their main natsideya.
            1. densh
              densh 9 August 2013 21: 16 New
              +1
              If you carefully study the history of Georgia, sitting on the neck is the basis of their policy.
              Turkey, Russia, England, USA. Who is next?
        2. Canep
          Canep 9 August 2013 11: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: lonely
          it’s impossible to get into the furnace, the chimney will become clogged. better in an acid vat

          Do not spoil the acid - drown in the feces, and the case is over.
          1. MVS
            MVS 9 August 2013 12: 05 New
            +6
            Quote: Canep

            Do not spoil the acid - drown in the feces, and the case is over.

            I'm afraid it won’t work out. Feces in feces do not drown.
            1. Canep
              Canep 9 August 2013 15: 00 New
              +1
              Quote: MVS
              I'm afraid it won’t work out. Feces in feces do not drown.

              But they dissolve and mix, and as a result of the fertilizer it turns out.
              1. alone
                alone 9 August 2013 15: 22 New
                +2
                it seems to me from such fertilizer even the weeds dry out
      2. domokl
        domokl 9 August 2013 10: 00 New
        +8
        Quote: klimpopov
        It’s time for the furnace

        It’s time and everyone understands this. They are just waiting for the elections. But in fact, his interview smacks of Goebbels very much. That’s how he explained the seizures of European countries to the people. We are white and fluffy, but were forced to attack ... preventively, so to speak ...
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 9 August 2013 10: 09 New
          +6
          And who said that Goebels’s students didn’t leave for the USA? And there the teachers grew up and continued. Well, Mishiko, where did he study? It all fits together.
        2. Very old
          Very old 9 August 2013 11: 19 New
          +7
          Mishiko was completely insulted. If Europe long ago recognized the fact of aggression from Georgia, if the first target of the attack was PEACEKEEPING forces, what is it about, Misha? Everyone understands the desire to "otmazatsya" (the term bros). And it is clear WHO compelled you to attack; it is known who armed you, who trained, who joined your "armada". So don’t flood with the nightingale, your song is all made up of fake notes
        3. Alexander Romanov
          9 August 2013 11: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          .Actually, his interview smacks of Goebbels

          Hello Sasha! So where did he study and who are his teachers. The henchman of the empire of lies cannot be otherwise hi
      3. Alexander Romanov
        9 August 2013 11: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: klimpopov
        ! And the erysipelas this second day on Topvar hangs.

        Sorry Klim, I found this article and here it is winked But what is the popularity of the wretched by comments laughing
        Hi hi
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov 9 August 2013 11: 52 New
          +3
          Hi Sash hi ! On antipathy built popularity. Better without any popularity at all. Well, Mishiko has worked out the material and that he is babbling there by and large, no one is interested, just an extra reason to raise the topic.
      4. Stiletto
        Stiletto 9 August 2013 12: 25 New
        +4
        “He went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to talk heart to heart,” the head of Georgia said, “at first he cut himself off, then he was nauseous, but it’s impossible! It’s akin to giving potassium cyanide a snowstorm - it seems to be time to die, but once wassat
        1. eplewke
          eplewke 9 August 2013 14: 02 New
          +7
          "He went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered his ass." Dima fuck me, but do not stand up for the Ossetians. To which he received a bitter answer - no. “Having to lower his pants for Bush,” Misha thought, and was saddened. nobody wanted him that evening ...
        2. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 9 August 2013 14: 32 New
          +2
          And why did he touch our President’s knee? GIVES, of course, is not a gift, but you do not need to convert it to your homosexual faith!
      5. Tersky
        Tersky 9 August 2013 22: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: klimpopov
        It’s time for the firebox! And the erysipelas this second day on Topvar hangs.

        Klim, hello land! Here she is from this erysipelas wassat (Hari, snout, bread slicer, hawla, and .., shorter than all the epithets can not be counted) ....Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili does not see the prospect of restoring friendly relations with the current Russian authorities on the basis of equal partnership. He made the corresponding statement on August 7, on the eve of the five-year anniversary of the war against South Ossetia, in an interview with the Rustavi-2 television company.

        "I always said nice things to Russian President Vladimir Putin, I acted like a sheep in front of a wolf, but the wolf will never be nice to the lamb," he said, urging the Georgian people to understand this and go their own way - the European choice.

        "We should not be sheep, we have already gone this way, but haven’t gained anything from this," he said, emphasizing that the "peaceful dream" of cohabitation with the current leadership of Russia is naive.

        "The new authorities are trying to convince the people that this is possible, but the statement of the Russian side puts everything in its place, and the people should open their eyes. And I have always told the truth to the people and will continue to do this - it’s impossible to agree with the current Russian leadership," he said. passes apsny.ge.
        Yes you are not a sheep, a ram for the slaughter of the west ...
    3. 225chay
      225chay 9 August 2013 10: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.


      At the "old age" in the sense at the end of his term "wiser or something"? Can not see...
    4. Constantine
      Constantine 9 August 2013 10: 40 New
      13
      Quote: Povshnik
      All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.


      Yeah. Something he has been working out lately. In fact, he is the most vivid example of a political “butterfly”. lol

      His behavior reminds me of the following:
      You are all fools and are not being treated! I’m smart, I’m beautiful in a white coat!
      wassat
      1. 755962
        755962 9 August 2013 10: 59 New
        10
        The big brother poured him into the trough, so he got crazy ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 August 2013 11: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: 755962
          , so he went crazy ...

          Usually "cluck" when the feeder is empty and it's time to remind the owner that it would be necessary to "pour" ...
      2. Very old
        Very old 9 August 2013 11: 22 New
        0
        Lord, stay healthy - like a monument to Obalduism
      3. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 9 August 2013 12: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Constantine
        Quote: Povshnik
        All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.


        Yeah. Something he has been working out lately. In fact, he is the most vivid example of a political “butterfly”. lol

        His behavior reminds me of the following:
        You are all fools and are not being treated! I’m smart, I’m beautiful in a white coat!
        wassat

        Hitler hated the lunatics and had reasons for this.
        At Nazi rallies, he had a rival, also striving for power in the party, previously undergoing treatment in a psychiatric hospital and having a certificate that he was mentally healthy.
        At rallies, he shouted that Hitler was dypak, and if Hitler objected, he demanded to provide a certificate.
        So the human rights activist who visited the asylum probably has a certificate that she is not a fool, and we do not have such certificates.
    5. experienced
      experienced 9 August 2013 11: 07 New
      12
      «I suggested colleagues to go to a disco“Medvedev supported me, almost everyone went to the Monaco bar,” recalls Mikhail Saakashvili. According to him, President Medvedev began to dance and he found the situation suitable for a frank conversation. “I went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to talk heart to heart- said the head of Georgia.


      I only seemed to these pi ... e flirting, which should not be among the Presidents? The President has many other ways for "frank conversations", and joint dances, hands on his knees, his tongue in width, like something more suitable for the club "Blue Oyster" lol
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 9 August 2013 11: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: seasoned
        The President has many other ways for "frank conversations", and joint dances, hands on his knees, his tongue in the air, something more for the club

        - Saakashvili passed Medvedev laughing laughing laughing Tin will now be a showdown "a la why don't you hold your tongue?"
        It’s one thing to guess about the joint “sympathies for the West” between Saakashvili and Medvedev, and another thing is when "According to him, President Medvedev began to dance, and he found the situation suitable for a frank conversation. “I went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to have a heart-to-heart talk, ”the head of Georgia said.“ I say: “We need to discuss everything, because it cannot be worse,” and he suddenly switched to “you” and quit: “You are mistaken, Misha, you will soon become much worse ! ”” - stupidly direct constant fact. lol
        1. experienced
          experienced 9 August 2013 11: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: aksakal
          - Saakashvili passed Medvedev

          Well, yes, it’s not like that, but he also “attached” Nazarbayev with his statements about the under-president DAM and the super-prime minister of GDP. All politicians will now keep their distance from Saakashvili, which excludes the possibility of conversation, hardly anyone will want to read the revelations of this "dreamer" that he will give out to the media, even if they simply exchanged the phrases "How are you?" "Fine". wink
          1. alone
            alone 9 August 2013 11: 39 New
            +6
            he is already a political corpse. here and surrenders everyone in giblets))))))))))))
            1. BARKAS
              BARKAS 9 August 2013 11: 53 New
              +7
              There are leaders of countries who, even without propaganda, look like frank dabiles and clowns. We had the same teddy bear from the same brotherhood
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 9 August 2013 12: 39 New
                +7
                Quote: BARKAS
                There are leaders of countries who, even without propaganda, look like frank dabiles and clowns. We had the same teddy bear from the same brotherhood

                Michael, hi good ! For Mishiko I recommend an excellent stopping agent, by the way, two in one:
                1. BARKAS
                  BARKAS 9 August 2013 13: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Tersky
                  For Mishiko I recommend an excellent stopping agent, by the way, two in one:

                  To do this, you need a performer, he can not wash away the shame and save the world from his presence! hi
    6. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 9 August 2013 11: 44 New
      +6
      Quote: Povshnik
      he is not capable of more

      Well, in vain you are so, he can still chew a tie, or they will fall under the fence

      1. builder
        builder 9 August 2013 20: 38 New
        0
        It’s a pity that at this moment “from Russia with love” something like this didn’t come. There would be a beautiful monument to Saakashvili in the form of a lake (for good memory)
    7. KILLAvolt
      KILLAvolt 9 August 2013 12: 14 New
      0
      ... and look, see the photo: already switched from ties to chewing jackets !!!
    8. eplewke
      eplewke 9 August 2013 13: 57 New
      0
      Shpilivilin was completely offended. Brazenly lying to the people. He wanted to. Brrr what is his people still not put on a stake?
    9. skrgar
      skrgar 9 August 2013 16: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.

      That’s really Sasha Willy .. (this is McCain’s so his last name pronounces) “Shurik” damn .. sick head-on, there’s not only a “bullet in my head” but also a “wind walking”. She still hopes that she will suddenly need someone after of these "tales" .. Yes, the amers already "wrote off" him ..
    10. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 9 August 2013 17: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.


      "Russia will probably leave the North Caucasus soon and generally does not have a national idea, and after the discovery of shale gas there is no future." - This is not an excuse, but another rudeness towards Russia. This political corpse continues to be "rude," apparently knows its future, and agreed on political asylum.
    11. Su24
      Su24 9 August 2013 18: 18 New
      +1
      That Saakashvili has no idea and no future.
    12. APASUS
      APASUS 9 August 2013 19: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Povshnik
      All that remains for him now is to justify himself; he is not capable of anything more.

      And he does not make excuses, if you have not noticed, he is advancing.
      In another 5-10 years, allegations will come that Ossetians attacked Tbilisi and everything will be served firsthand!
    13. valokordin
      valokordin 10 August 2013 03: 24 New
      0
      It would be nice for the American agent of influence in Georgia Sukashvili to tell how he freed Adzharia with the help of the Russian democrats.
    14. Siberian German
      Siberian German 10 August 2013 06: 04 New
      -1
      Hard Nooooooo - Soft Italian Silk
  2. maxvet
    maxvet 9 August 2013 09: 41 New
    +5
    Looks like a complaint from a hurt child
    1. Uncle Serozha
      Uncle Serozha 9 August 2013 09: 55 New
      22
      “Russia will probably leave the North Caucasus soon and generally does not have a national idea, and after the discovery of shale gas there is no future”
      Yes exactly. And the crews will fly to the international space station with Georgian missiles. And Georgia will also become the world's largest exporter of helicopters. And she’ll also create an AS (Saakashvili’s assault rifle), which will simply take this damn Kalashnikov out of the market. Well, about the future victories of Georgian athletes at the Olympics, there’s no point in writing, this is clear to everyone.
      Comrades from the Georgian state drug control, is it time for you to tackle your president? I feel you have work there ...
      1. domokl
        domokl 9 August 2013 10: 03 New
        12
        Quote: Uncle Serezha
        after the discovery of shale gas, there is no future ”

        Classical American popolis ... We already heard about the colossus with feet of clay, and about the raw materials appendage of the West, and about the fascist regime of Putin. Saak never even came up with a new word.
        Meli Emelya, your week.
        1. maxcor1974
          maxcor1974 9 August 2013 10: 26 New
          +1
          So there’s not much brain to invent, a bald mongrel is pushing, there’s nothing to bite
    2. Blackscorp
      Blackscorp 9 August 2013 09: 55 New
      +4
      It seems that he is just peep ... l, all so kind, fluffy .... and in the process sitting on something, or sick, because lying and wishful thinking with sincere faith in it ....
      1. maxvet
        maxvet 9 August 2013 09: 57 New
        +6
        and notice-he is without a tie
        1. 225chay
          225chay 9 August 2013 10: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: maxvet
          and notice-he is without a tie


          With him, he just "gets wild"
        2. domokl
          domokl 9 August 2013 10: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: maxvet
          and notice-he is without a tie

          laughing now he’s not interested in ties ... I probably changed the ration
          1. Genry
            Genry 9 August 2013 11: 30 New
            +1
            Simply, gourmet food is eaten first.
        3. Very old
          Very old 9 August 2013 11: 27 New
          0
          Without a halstukh you yourself are not your own, eat it! Well how? Feel better?
          1. densh
            densh 9 August 2013 21: 25 New
            0
            Hitler, they say, loved rugs.
  3. Nikitin
    Nikitin 9 August 2013 09: 44 New
    +6
    “I went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat it down, put his hand on his knee .... "Then they smoked and poured beer ... Well, Mishiko, n .... b - do not toss the bags !!!!
    1. rauffg
      rauffg 9 August 2013 10: 33 New
      +5
      I read and stupidly neighing wassat
      1. alone
        alone 9 August 2013 10: 40 New
        +4
        sin laugh at the sick crying
        1. sergey72
          sergey72 9 August 2013 11: 22 New
          +2
          Yeah, Stukukoshvili’s nonsense is simply enchanting ... wassat
          1. mizantropi
            mizantropi 9 August 2013 15: 20 New
            0
            Such is the logic of oligophrenic: that there would be no war with Russia, it is necessary to arrange the massacre of Russian citizens. This patient is not curable at any level of development of psychiatry. And besides, he is also a specialist in the national idea ... fool
  4. buzuke
    buzuke 9 August 2013 09: 44 New
    +9
    “We do not change your territories for your orientation” ”

    Putin burns as always. and as for Saakashvili - if the interview was not misinterpreted, then I don’t understand how Georgians endured this dibiloid for so many years
    1. Armata
      Armata 9 August 2013 09: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: buzuke
      Putin burns as always
      Who is waiting?
  5. stroporez
    stroporez 9 August 2013 09: 45 New
    +5
    Mikhail has another aggravation .........
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 9 August 2013 09: 47 New
      +3
      Ties are over ...
  6. Alez
    Alez 9 August 2013 09: 46 New
    +9
    Dancing first. Phrase - Then he sat down, put his hand on Medvedev’s knee. He wanted the Necktie-eater to check Dimon for fagot, it didn’t work, all offended by Mishiko, he went to bite on pickled ties.
  7. awg75
    awg75 9 August 2013 09: 46 New
    10
    I don’t understand one thing --- why print the revelations of this clown ???
  8. Bort radist
    Bort radist 9 August 2013 09: 46 New
    +2
    Someone who hurts speaks about that. (Folk wisdom)
  9. mcvdvlad
    mcvdvlad 9 August 2013 09: 46 New
    +2
    no, well, maybe it was like that, I have no doubt that our people knew and prepared, from the side of the GDP, it would be right to cut the knot in one fell swoop, and not try to unravel for many decades
    1. Armata
      Armata 9 August 2013 09: 50 New
      +7
      Quote: mcvdvlad
      no, well, maybe it was like that, I have no doubt that our people knew and prepared, from the side of the GDP, it would be right to cut the knot in one fell swoop, and not try to unravel for many decades
      That is why the sweet couple stopped the troops in front of Tbilisi.
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv 9 August 2013 10: 01 New
        +3
        Zhen, why do we need Georgia?
        His bantustanov enough.
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 9 August 2013 10: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: Mechanic
        That is why the sweet couple stopped the troops in front of Tbilisi.


        We lacked a leader. I believe that since there was an attack on the capital of Ossetia, it means that it would be adequate to send troops into the capital of the aggressor, unfortunately the adequacy is not our thing
        1. Gato
          Gato 9 August 2013 12: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          I believe that since there was an attack on the capital of Ossetia, it would be adequate to send troops into the capital of the aggressor

          hi
          Support.
          The troops are not being brought into the capital in order to occupy and annex, but in order to put there a “manual” regime that would not bark towards Russia and officially reinforce Georgia’s abandonment of Abkhazia and Ossetia.
          Well, like, "woe to the vanquished" (C) Brenn.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 9 August 2013 12: 44 New
            +4
            Quote: Gato
            not in order to occupy and annex,


            Of course, the Russian army is not a beast, it wouldn’t water Tbilisi in a hail, but to shoot idle in the suburbs during negotiations is quite
  10. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 9 August 2013 09: 48 New
    +3
    Georgia has much more ideas! : D
  11. Georgic
    Georgic 9 August 2013 09: 49 New
    37
    Then I called my wife, and for some reason Putin picked up the phone ...
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 9 August 2013 14: 05 New
      +2
      haha !!! Thin... laughing
  12. My address
    My address 9 August 2013 09: 50 New
    10
    Specialist STRANGE. So "effective" that he could not figure out the consequences of 08.08.08 for Georgia. And Russia compared to Georgia ...

    Almost about such a "friend" of Russia. Yesterday, it sounded on the net that Gorbachem threw away his hooves, I already got together in a shop for cognac, but did not grow together, it turned out to be a "duck".
    1. mcvdvlad
      mcvdvlad 9 August 2013 09: 56 New
      11
      ))) if it turned out to be true, few people in Russia would go to work today, dancing, songs, fireworks would walk until morning
    2. 225chay
      225chay 9 August 2013 10: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: My address
      Yesterday on the net it sounded that Gorbachev threw back his hooves, I’m already going to the store for cognac,

      this spotted mold is even more alive than all living
      1. densh
        densh 9 August 2013 21: 30 New
        0
        Do not bury this crap, bury it in a lead container.
  13. svp67
    svp67 9 August 2013 09: 52 New
    +4
    At the end of the interview, he assured viewers that “Russia will probably leave the North Caucasus soon and generally does not have a national idea, and after the discovery of shale gas there is no future”
    But he did not say - what is his future?
  14. alone
    alone 9 August 2013 09: 53 New
    +8
    "Putin decides everything." Well this was mine everyone knew. it’s surprising that only Misha didn’t know. It’s good that there is Nazarbayev. He opened his eyes.)))))))))))))))))
  15. Lantau
    Lantau 9 August 2013 09: 55 New
    11
    Misha, let’s tie it up with such grassy grass, you can finish badly wassat
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  17. SvetoRus
    SvetoRus 9 August 2013 09: 57 New
    +6
    Another stream of lies, from a cowardly insignificance. Be forgotten, in a hole with a suitcase of ties, Mishiko! Chew, shiver and do not shine.
  18. fzr1000
    fzr1000 9 August 2013 09: 59 New
    +4
    Misha, sometimes it’s better to chew.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 9 August 2013 10: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: fzr1000
      sometimes it’s better to chew.

      On the bus, opposite the granny, there is a guy standing and chewing chewing gum! The grandmother looked, looked at him, and then said: - "In vain you try, my dear, I'm still deaf"
      1. eplewke
        eplewke 9 August 2013 14: 07 New
        0
        in his case it’s better to suck ... negative
  19. vadimiys
    vadimiys 9 August 2013 09: 59 New
    +5
    HELL AMERICAN IN CLEARS AMERICOSES SURELY WRITTEN WHAT TO SCAT! UNDER ITS ASS TO AMERICOS !!!
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  21. v53993
    v53993 9 August 2013 10: 01 New
    +3
    Very reminiscent of confession forgiveness .... ki.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 9 August 2013 10: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: v53993
      reminds confession forgiveness .... ki.

      Red shoes, and here is a red tie. Solid parallels.
    2. densh
      densh 9 August 2013 21: 32 New
      0
      not confession-rotten excuses.
  22. pa_nik
    pa_nik 9 August 2013 10: 01 New
    +4
    Something Michael talked ... mouth, apparently freed. Ties are over. fellow
  23. andrei332809
    andrei332809 9 August 2013 10: 02 New
    +3
    until he chewed all his ties, one must pull him up. he cannot even find an excuse for himself. What are they taught in America?
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop 9 August 2013 10: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      until he chewed all the ties, on one he must be pulled up
      It is not worth spending the food stock of a sovereign country. It’s better for him to tie a rope from worn socks, from a tie for such - it's too chic lol
  24. pa_nik
    pa_nik 9 August 2013 10: 02 New
    +4
    Quote: We refund_SSSR
    It is a pity, of course, that he was not hanged as a war criminal in Tbilisi Square


    Not yet evening. (WITH)
  25. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 9 August 2013 10: 05 New
    +2
    And who believes this ... He would have promised RUSSIA more, but ... it’s obvious that the telepaths gave him a command from WASHINGTON, and he shut up his tie!

    Putin again began to refer to Cyprus and sentence: “Don’t be afraid, guys, it will not hurt you very much!” ”,
    And what hurt? After all, Saakashvili remained in power (although his authority was finally dropped below the baseboard), Georgia was not occupied, Ossetians and Abkhaz remained outside the jurisdiction of Tbilisi, which automatically negated Georgia’s efforts to join NATO (the charter prohibits the admission of new members having cross-border or territorial disagreements with neighbors ... In general, everything remained as before ... BUT WE WERE SATISFIED! Although we were really in pain for our soldiers who died, the people of South Ossetia!
    I began to call him, and for some reason Putin picked up the phone, who advised discussing issues only with him, ”the Georgian president assures.
    Words of the President of KAZAKHSTAN N. NAZARBAYEV from the interview: “Don’t pay attention - he is still young, Putin still decides everything.”
    Well, people, these Georgians! Everyone knows perfectly well ... "who is who" ... they do not know only in Georgia when they try to conduct conversations WITH A SHADOW!
    History has already judged and put everything on the shelves - Saakashvili’s adventurism has cost the country dearly ... and it will take a long time to repair the damage, especially Russophobia
  26. sasha.28blaga
    sasha.28blaga 9 August 2013 10: 06 New
    +5
    Why are you so pale? Medvedev offended?
    - No. Grew up.
    He invited me to a disco, if only we would play tanchiki in the sandbox.
    Not Bear, Bush is resting.
    Or maybe such a translation.
    1. MVS
      MVS 9 August 2013 12: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: sasha.28blaga
      Why are you so pale? Medvedev offended?
      - No. Grew up.
      He invited me to a disco, if only we would play tanchiki in the sandbox.
      Not Bear, Bush is resting.
      Or maybe such a translation.

      Speaking of Bush
  27. pa_nik
    pa_nik 9 August 2013 10: 07 New
    +6
    Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili outlined his own version of events in a programmatic interview with Georgian journalists. wink
    1. alone
      alone 9 August 2013 10: 23 New
      +6
      misunderstood the actions of two guards. that bald one and that one under the shield. that something obviously was up to bad))))
      1. de_monSher
        de_monSher 9 August 2013 14: 42 New
        0
        that bald one and that one under the shield. that something obviously was up to bad))))


        Well, why immediately hang tags. Apparently, this dude, which is from below the whole of Kotovasia, was clearly not against these - "bad actions" ... *)))
    2. Anti
      Anti 9 August 2013 10: 31 New
      +4
      I would call the picture "Let me go in the Himalayas" lol
      1. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 9 August 2013 12: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Anti
        I would call the picture "Let me go in the Himalayas"

        Another option: "Lower me in the Himalayas"
    3. Alez
      Alez 9 August 2013 11: 10 New
      +2
      Canvas print - Putin is wetting America's prodigal son. The first time it was not possible to soak.
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 9 August 2013 11: 58 New
        +2
        Such as Saakashvili should protect our FSO and security is ensured and will look after the unreasonable if laughing
  28. RUS-36
    RUS-36 9 August 2013 10: 07 New
    +6
    And who will enlighten me, what is the official national idea now ??? It was clearly traced in the USSR, now I DO NOT SEE
    1. Gato
      Gato 9 August 2013 12: 20 New
      0
      Quote: RUS-36
      what is the official national idea now ???

      1. "Get rich!"
      2. "Money doesn't smell!"
      3. "After us - at least a flood!"

      I would like to:
      "May Russia be exalted, may our names disappear!"
      Sorry for the pathetic, but you can’t say better.
  29. optimist
    optimist 9 August 2013 10: 09 New
    +4
    It seems that Mishiko is trying to finally whitewash himself. It is an expected event. Although, probably, not everything is so simple ... From that "war" gesheft everyone raped. Mishiko worked out American money and tried (albeit unsuccessfully) to create an image of a hero-liberator among Georgians. The Russian government with the help of the "small and victorious" distracted its population from the onset of the crisis. And she got herself another "black hole" in the form of South Ossetia. We have so little "parasites" in the UK ....
  30. pensioner
    pensioner 9 August 2013 10: 10 New
    +3
    At the end of the interview, he assured viewers that "Russia will probably leave the North Caucasus soon and generally does not have a national idea, and after the discovery of shale gas there is no future."
    Mishiko! Do not save on the grass! Buy a proven product, and even so it’s bad with your head, and then the grass is not very ... People seem to have stopped laughing at you, are tired, and you are burning again.
  31. maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 9 August 2013 10: 12 New
    +4
    The old jackal howls. The owners do not need, the country does not need. And here they can also plant. That sprinkles with saliva. Although I liked one of his pearls:
    And he himself, according to Mikheil Saakashvili, reassured him, "barely kept on his feet from shock"
    .
    He’s such a “tender and tender beast”, sensitive and vulnerable, and we offended him with tanks ... wink
  32. leon-iv
    leon-iv 9 August 2013 10: 12 New
    +5
    I look and rejoice every time
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 9 August 2013 10: 52 New
      +3
      Saakashvili’s ties have no future!
  33. Petergut
    Petergut 9 August 2013 10: 12 New
    12
    I propose to transfer the article to the "Humor" section.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 9 August 2013 12: 15 New
      +3
      rather, in the "Delirium" section
      1. builder
        builder 9 August 2013 20: 40 New
        0
        Humorous nonsense wink
  34. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 9 August 2013 10: 12 New
    +2
    This is what a national idea this lover of ties is talking about in his own juice? About the idea of ​​how best to lick an anus with a striped one, please, we won’t play your games. And we have an idea: to make such gourmets like that!
  35. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 9 August 2013 10: 13 New
    +7
    I propose establishing the Dr. Goebbels Prize and the first to award it to Mikhail Saakashvili. soldier
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 9 August 2013 10: 50 New
      +5
      The first there should be Gorbachev! hi The phrase from the 80s was remembered "Three rushes along the road: Mishka, Raika, Perestroika!". bully
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 9 August 2013 11: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Gomunkul
        The phrase from the 80s was remembered "Three rushes along the road: Mishka, Raika, Perestroika!".

        Yes, this trio drove through us like a skating rink, we still don’t get around.
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 9 August 2013 13: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Medvedev
      I propose establishing the Dr. Goebbels Prize and the first to award it to Mikhail Saakashvili. soldier

      And established long ago and awarded the first hunchback.
    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. 9 August 2013 18: 33 New
      +1
      http://nstarikov.ru/blog/29541
      A little new about hunchback
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 9 August 2013 18: 39 New
        0
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      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 9 August 2013 18: 39 New
        0
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  36. Powder donut
    Powder donut 9 August 2013 10: 14 New
    +3
    Bugaga! Thank you, that after Yeltsin we have no clowns of presidents))) You can only feel sorry for the Georgians, he was very unlucky with him.
    1. Gato
      Gato 9 August 2013 12: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: DonutPowder
      after Yeltsin we have no clowns of presidents

      But it’s funny anyway:
    2. Shuriken
      Shuriken 9 August 2013 12: 39 New
      +1
      How is it not? And iPhone?
      1. Normal
        Normal 9 August 2013 20: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Shuriken
        How is it not? And iPhone?

        Was he the president? He was interim.
  37. Wedmak
    Wedmak 9 August 2013 10: 15 New
    +5
    What is this stream of consciousness not burdened with intellect? I read it twice, tried to understand what Mishiko wanted to say. It didn’t reach me ... Admit, who before the interview did he pour heroin into tea?
  38. Grenz
    Grenz 9 August 2013 10: 15 New
    +4
    Badly bound lies and truth.
    True that Sakashvili was really afraid that if the Russians went, they would go straight to Tbilisi and no one would stop them, and they would even help. Not all Georgians went under this Suliko. And power is its end. He took measures to bribe Russian business and the country's leadership. Apparently there is part of the truth in what he heard in response. The site has a similar example with Saudi Arabia. And in that and in the latter case did not work. These are American preparations. To bribe. This is all true.
    False in that - since it’s so liquid ...., it is necessary in any way to at least somehow throw your shit ... to the enemy, maybe the stink will spread over him.
    Does not work. Too all is clear to everyone. And the SACI revelation is just one more proof - in foreign policy, America is already corny and vulgarly losing.
  39. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 9 August 2013 10: 17 New
    +6
    Clown, just a clown. Why are there so many minuses? After all, a very funny article laughing good
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 9 August 2013 11: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Middle Brother
      . Why are there so many minuses? After all, a very funny article

      I agree, I, too, was surprised that our guys were members of the forum, so excitedly reacted to the schizo and the drug addict? lol
  40. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 9 August 2013 10: 18 New
    +3
    This lying burp can not be heard at all, much less believe at least one word. A completely false, psychopathic creature, which, in fact, is not surprising for US sixes and jesters. I regret only one thing that retaliation does not always come on time. If fate gives a chance, he personally will gnaw through the throat of this dog for unarmed people crushed by tanks and, of course, our peacekeepers, vilely shot in the back by cowardly rodents.
    1. sasha.28blaga
      sasha.28blaga 9 August 2013 10: 26 New
      +3
      Do not generalize for all Georgians. Very not bad people come across, very much. But there is a specific hemorrhoids, here most likely Bear belongs to them.
      1. Kushadasov
        Kushadasov 9 August 2013 11: 08 New
        +1
        I’m not talking about all Georgians, I’m talking about this particular category, without honor and conscience, for some reason there were a lot of people at that moment who were ready to thoughtlessly carry out any order of their insane commander in chief.
        And I know good Georgians, I met them in life. As, however, and villains.
  41. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 9 August 2013 10: 20 New
    +3
    So far, no documents have passed the examination has not been submitted - all this. And what was there who told whom - Mishiko’s fantasies should not be occupied ... As well as the fact that he might think and dream. Let us recall how he put off the “meatball” from a flying plane and how he ate his wardrobe. Frankly speaking, he needs to be treated with schizophrenia on his face.
  42. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 9 August 2013 10: 23 New
    +2
    I think that when the Americans offered him a helicopter for evacuation, he was not proud "No!" he said, but rather he hastened to fly in faster, I won’t be surprised if he escaped from the capital at all, he just returned later and the Americans didn’t even find him for the helicopter. The only thing Mishka is right about is the absence of a national idea. about the lack of a future, he only loudly voiced the erotic dreams of the Western leadership, even if Russia is really occupied in economic terms, but sooner or later everything passes.
  43. Anti
    Anti 9 August 2013 10: 27 New
    +8
    Russia should sue Georgia for the deaths and injuries of peacekeepers directly, without any European courts. Oblige Georgia to pay compensation to the families of the dead peacekeepers.
  44. Andrey KZ
    Andrey KZ 9 August 2013 10: 27 New
    +2
    According to him, President Medvedev began to dance, and he found the situation suitable for a frank conversation. “I went up to him, began to dance too. Then he sat down, put his hand on his knee and offered to talk heart to heart, ”the head of Georgia said.Damn, Mishiko finally got everything wrong. But seriously, it’s just interesting, what is Georgia’s national idea? And what is the future?
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 9 August 2013 11: 04 New
      +9
      Quote: Andrew KZ
      But seriously, it’s just interesting, what is the national idea of ​​Georgia? And what is the future?

      Here is the answer. The future is known.
  45. Yeraz
    Yeraz 9 August 2013 10: 29 New
    12
    People let Saakashvili aside, and what is the national idea of ​​today's Russia ??? Only without pathos, it’s simple that when at school, that at the university, the older generation generally pointed to this problem and complained about negativity, yes there is a category of people for which nat.idea is the restoration of the Soviet power and its other aspects, but for the main part, for today's youth, what does Russia offer ?? its leadership ?? Because except for the party I take from life all the other oddities of the western there is nothing on the horizon.
    1. Manager
      Manager 9 August 2013 10: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: Yeraz
      Let’s put people to the side of Saakashvili, and what is the national idea of ​​today's Russia ???

      Exactly! Think soberly. HERE it was the factor that Srakashvili said. Nevertheless, he is right about the national idea. No country has such a devastation regarding the national idea as in Russia. In the same Ukraine and Belarus, patriotism and national unity are much higher. And do not write the opposite, for it is true.
      1. maxcor1974
        maxcor1974 9 August 2013 10: 37 New
        +3
        Well, about Ukraine you are bent! That's where the west and east do not converge so it is there.
      2. alex13-61
        alex13-61 9 August 2013 10: 39 New
        +4
        Quote: Manager
        In the same Ukraine and Belarus, patriotism and national unity are much higher.

        Where did you find that unity in Ukraine? ... The country is split ...
        1. densh
          densh 9 August 2013 21: 40 New
          0
          Now the East of Ukraine is carefully lowered to the level of the West.
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 August 2013 10: 39 New
      +3
      There is a national idea, it is a revival of a strong and independent country.
      The only question is that if Putin (even the government sometimes) somehow strives for this, I don’t think I need to bring evidence, then officials of a lower and local rank continue to live in 90's, when it was necessary to grab more and not become a corpse. There is money in the country, hence the even more raking state of officials.
      When they steal years on 10-15, with confiscation, for theft of billions of billions of money, then something may move.
      In the meantime, we skid, somewhere a little, somewhere a lot.
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 9 August 2013 11: 12 New
        +4
        Of course, I apologize, but this is not a national idea. This slogan can be put forward in every country in the world ... The problem with this slogan is that, like all other slogans, it gives vague and generalized concepts ... What is the state of revival and development ?, how strong is it ?, independent of what or from whom ... Here, there can be a substitution of basic concepts, and the introduction of everything that everyone is looking for himself ... The national idea - (as I understand it) is a kind of strategic plan for the development of society, taking into account its history and realities, and hypothetical needs ... If we talk about Russia, then even on the Internet you can find a completely accurate wording that would fit even your slogan, including the formation of an empire ... But this is not the problem. The national idea is based on a document (it does not matter a philosophical treatise as in the case of Nietzsche or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution), which equalizes the vision of the goal of both the power elites and the majority of the population ... About power elites in Russia today there is only a short wording of Putin: “This is patriotism and welfare guaranteed by the state” ... But nowhere, so far there is no document that could combine the imperial desires of the majority (as I see it) and the desire for prosperity for citizens from the elite in any document, despite the fact that these desires coincide. The liberal stratum of society (especially the neoliberal one) is unfortunately so uneducated and wild that the single word "Empire" causes them terrible horror, although in fact everything is not so scary, especially if you look at Wasserman's thoughts about continental empires.

        PS So far Russia really does not have a clearly formulated and written down common national idea for all, and therefore it is worth paying attention to this problem, especially when the ENEMY draws attention to it. The enemy always long and scrupulously searches for weaknesses, in order to convict them, the stupid enemy, having convicted, speaks about it out loud. Saakashvili is a man who speaks out loud even while chewing a tie ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 9 August 2013 15: 10 New
          +3
          the national idea is based on a document (a philosophical treatise is not important as in the case of Nietzsche or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution),

          Any document can be distorted by interpretations and streamlined wording beyond recognition. The US experience is proof of this. The national idea is not a state policy, it is not a framework, nor a goal (let’s get to this and be happy). Such an idea should live in the minds of the people, from a simple worker to a president. Even if some part of the mind thinks - I am doing my job, it is to some extent good for the country in which I live, that’s what the national idea is.
          Unfortunately, now the society is very heterogeneous, there are many extremists (and they also think that their actions are to the country's advantage), but that there is a lot of thieves. Only to yourself, and there everything is lost. Yes, and with education is not very. Here the West tried to drive into our heads destructive ideological strains.
          Therefore, this very idea stalls with us.
          So far, Russia really does not have a clearly formulated and written down national idea that is uniform for all, and therefore it is worth paying attention to this problem, especially when the ENEMY draws attention to it.

          The national idea does not need to be written down and formulated. She must herself be born in the minds of the people. Only then will it be common. In the meantime ...
          In the meantime, we are only happy with the country's progress and scolded for failures. Both that, and another, occurs with great enthusiasm. But this is better than just a nonsense, as it was in 90, and 2000.
          1. Makarov
            Makarov 9 August 2013 22: 05 New
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            For the most part I agree, but it seems to me that the recorded thing is such a thing that you can "poke your nose" at all those who maybe don’t specifically forget the direction of movement ... In general, it is for you to determine for Russians what it’s in someone else’s monastery))) Just my vision of the issue.

            PS I’m generally silent about my country ... Because it’s very embarrassing.
      2. alex13-61
        alex13-61 9 August 2013 11: 14 New
        +1
        right.
        Quote: Wedmak
        There is a national idea, it is a revival of a strong and independent country.
    3. V. Salama
      V. Salama 9 August 2013 12: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: Yeraz
      ... and what is the national idea of ​​today's Russia ???

      Yes, there is none yet? Stole in due time. Remember the "songs" of the liberals: "the army must be depoliticized, society must be de-ideologized." In fact, we are talking about official ideology (I will not give definitions, there will still be a fight). Even F. Engels argued that "without a community of interests there can be no unity of purpose ...". I personally with Abramovich, for example, have no common interests. And without a common goal (system-forming link), our society is not a system (in the scientific sense), and therefore is not capable of progress (development with the + sign). "A society united by a common goal becomes an independent productive force." But, "a holy place does not happen empty", it is impossible to deideologize a society, since "ideas themselves take over the masses." Well, and what ideas “got hold” of us with the help of brainwashing, we see everything in life (I will not quote the slogans of the Yeltsin pore). If primitive, ideology is a system of social values, answers to questions about what is good and what is bad, what is useful and what is not; principles of social justice; what should society strive for in its development. Here you can list for a long time, it’s better to turn to the definition of the concept ...
  46. Micex
    Micex 9 August 2013 10: 31 New
    +5
    oh, damn it, didn’t laugh like that for a long time. That they are the main Georgian, that the elder Psheks are repeating one by one, the author of the texts is the only one.
  47. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 9 August 2013 10: 32 New
    +1
    Give him a tie shoba shut up.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 August 2013 10: 41 New
      +3
      The production of ties can no longer cope with orders. Here he flatters without his favorite food.
      1. MG42
        MG42 9 August 2013 13: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Wedmak
        The production of ties can no longer cope with orders

        <Colombian tie> let them order <a method of sadistic murder, in which the tongue is pulled through the slit throat of the slain.>
  48. Manager
    Manager 9 August 2013 10: 32 New
    +3
    Unfortunately, he is right about the national idea. But there is no future.
    Now the state and people have begun to act. The idea, I think, is coming up soon. Patriotism has already begun to grow little by little.
    1. alone
      alone 9 August 2013 10: 38 New
      +5
      the main thing is that rational patriotism grows, and not cheers-patriotism. then the national idea and everything else will appear.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 9 August 2013 10: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: Manager
      Unfortunately, he is right about the national idea. But there is no future.
      Now the state and people have begun to act. The idea, I think, is coming up soon. Patriotism has already begun to grow little by little.

      Well, the future there is always incomprehensible, the Caucasus was lost in Russia, and then it again returned to a more powerful form.
      Honestly, I don’t see this action, I see an increasingly growing generation of squid under hypnosis of the West and it is horrifying that what I see on TV from the West comes up more and more before my eyes in life. Patriotism, well, I rather see an increase in worthless nationalism.
      1. Manager
        Manager 9 August 2013 10: 53 New
        +6
        Quote: Yeraz
        I rather see the growth of worthless nationalism.

        Nationalism must be among the people! Do not confuse it with Nazism, fascism, etc.
        Nationalism is simply love and devotion to one’s land and people. Patriotism in other words. But Nazism arises when your people (nation) begin to spread rot. So if there has been a recent increase in Nazism, it is only thanks to the "correct" domestic policy of our state. In particular, in the migration issue. There is a good example. This is when you come home from work, and in the kitchen in your dressing gown a stranger sits, there is your borsch and strokes your wife’s knee. And when you ask him to behave normally and leave the apartment because it’s your apartment, or if it’s a communal apartment, he’s behaving decently (nationalism), and in response he sends you further and says that he will behave as he pleases, then in response you begin to behave more aggressively defending your family and home. (Nazism).
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 9 August 2013 11: 05 New
          +4
          Quote: Manager
          Quote: Yeraz
          I rather see the growth of worthless nationalism.

          Nationalism must be among the people! Do not confuse it with Nazism, fascism, etc.
          Nationalism is simply love and devotion to one’s land and people. Patriotism in other words. But Nazism arises when your people (nation) begin to spread rot. So if there has been a recent increase in Nazism, it is only thanks to the "correct" domestic policy of our state. In particular, in the migration issue. There is a good example. This is when you come home from work, and in the kitchen in your dressing gown a stranger sits, there is your borsch and strokes your wife’s knee. And when you ask him to behave normally and leave the apartment because it’s your apartment, or if it’s a communal apartment, he’s behaving decently (nationalism), and in response he sends you further and says that he will behave as he pleases, then in response you begin to behave more aggressively defending your family and home. (Nazism).

          I don’t confuse him, so I wrote HEALTHY nationalism. If a person behaves, as you have described, 1 what a wife who gives herself peace to iron, 2 if he grabbed it by force and does it, he will cut the knife and cut his throat. And no one can called Nazism.
          1. Manager
            Manager 9 August 2013 11: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Yeraz
            knife and cutting his throat. And no one can call it Nazism.

            That is just the point: you have a knife almost immediately in the Caucasus. And here we are somehow trying to rely on the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But they don’t want to honestly work and fulfill their duties. So we suffer.
            1. alone
              alone 9 August 2013 11: 42 New
              +4
              expensive in such matters, you can’t rely on the Ministry of Internal Affairs. the cop will also want to stroke the knee.))))
            2. Yeraz
              Yeraz 9 August 2013 14: 25 New
              +2
              Quote: Manager
              Quote: Yeraz
              knife and cutting his throat. And no one can call it Nazism.

              That is just the point: you have a knife almost immediately in the Caucasus. And here we are somehow trying to rely on the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But they don’t want to honestly work and fulfill their duties. So we suffer.

              When your honor is trampled on, you don’t have to rely on someone else; it’s your honor and purification that only you should do, they turn to the cops only when for some reason you don’t depend on you. I myself am a pragmatic person , I think before I do it, but in the topic of honor and dignity here from our ancestors it is restored only with the help of blood, and everything else is excuses. But I didn’t climb into a strange monastery with my charter, and therefore, how the Russians do it is their personal affair. But if a Muslim is Muslim, he will act differently, then this.
        2. V. Salama
          V. Salama 9 August 2013 13: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: Manager
          Nationalism must be among the people! Do not confuse it with Nazism ...
          There is a serious problem - we speak the same language and do not understand each other. This is used to stimulate our consciousness. Here again, the concrete conceptual apparatus that is used is important. If patriotism is understood as “the desire of one nation to assert itself at the expense of another” - this is one thing, and if what content this concept was filled with in pre-revolutionary Russia is another.
        3. Ivan.
          Ivan. 9 August 2013 13: 58 New
          +2
          Quote: Manager
          Nationalism must be among the people!

          Not obliged, nationalism is just a consequence of the unification of people - in the name of something, against something. People unite mainly on a national basis, but also on other grounds. Nationalism is the natural self-defense of society from external threats. Currently, all these threats are artificial and manageable, and therefore it is more difficult to deal with them than before, since these threats are not aimed at society as a whole, but at each individual. One can be eliminated as an obstacle to their goals with the help of vodka, the other through drugs, the third turned into a Nazi, the fourth into a liberal, the fifth made indifferent, the next deprived of education and replaced with a substitute, etc. using levers of control over power structures and continuously littering brains through SMD. Therefore, there is only one way out - enlightenment, education, awareness, understanding.
          1. Manager
            Manager 9 August 2013 14: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Ivan.
            Therefore, there is only one way out - enlightenment, education, awareness, understanding.

            Education has become a very expensive pleasure. Even in schools. This is just a consequence of how you wrote that the people would not be educated.
            And about tolerance, etc., I’m afraid that in 5 years they will simply turn us into either slaves or send them to the Caucasus to live. Of course, I understand everything, but I want to leave my children a strong and law-governed state. With morality developed and not tolerant. Kotoroya was Orthodox with central Russia. That would have jobs and affordable education. The correct story. With honest people in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, medicine and other important structures. At this stage, we do not have any of the above. From this I think nationalism is justified. For if the peoples of the Caucasus have it, then why doesn’t it have the right to exist among the Russian people? I do not call for Nazism or Coups .. This is really sheer stupidity and only the enemy or can desire this. But I am calling for rallying. That would not be like wolves to each other and understand that this is our country and our homeland. And that its future depends on each of our decisions. A good example the other day I was told by my good friend from Voronezh. They rallied as a whole courtyard and began to clean their yard in the mornings and evenings in groups from dirt and debris. As a result, Homeowners Associations were forced to deny work to the next Tajiks. Some yards in his area followed suit. And lo and behold! Crime has declined by almost 100%. This is what I call healthy nationalism. And I think this example can be followed.
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 9 August 2013 16: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Manager
              For if the peoples of the Caucasus have it, then why doesn’t it have the right to exist among the Russian people?

              The nationalism of the peoples of the Caucasus, Central Asia and the Muslim peoples in general is similar to fanaticism and the more obvious are their exceptions. Muslims more often listen to the letter of the scriptures, the Slavs (majority) to their spirit, and therefore the discrepancies are less significant, it is more difficult to mislead. But no matter how the Caucasus does not harm the Russians, it enriches Russia. Russian nationalism hasn’t gone anywhere, it’s just disoriented - the habit of trusting the authorities is affecting, but the changes are already evident - people are becoming more independent in their opinions and less ears are open, though the problem is still relevant.
              Quote: Manager
              Education has become a very expensive pleasure. Even in schools

              Of course, who said that it would be easy - but if once people were limited by samizdat, now a person with a computer with the Internet is almost unlimited for self-education to help him self-discipline.
              He didn’t say anything about tolerance - this is an analogue of connivance.
              Quote: Manager
              I do not call for Nazism or Coups

              I call for a revolution in understanding based on understanding then and the call to unite will be superfluous.

              Quote: Manager
              A good example the other day my good friend from Voronezh told me

              The first collaborative experiences - great!
              What would they be "contagious" should know about them. Our main weakness is that we are divided and we have a society only in words, we must again learn to live together.
    3. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 9 August 2013 18: 59 New
      +1
      "" "At the end of the interview, he assured viewers that" Russia will probably leave the North Caucasus soon and generally does not have a national idea, and after discovering shale gas there is no future. "Mikheil Saakashvili asked his compatriots not to judge him strictly." I’ll only judge history, and it will prove that I was absolutely right, ”the Georgian president, who is leaving soon, assured him." "" "

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  49. maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 9 August 2013 10: 32 New
    +2
    I wonder what he was thinking when he drove the president’s knee with his pen? Shalunishka, did he try to resolve the crisis with his pheromones, or was he planning something unkind at all? wink They don’t like such people in the zone, and he will probably have to gather there soon, Georgian convicts, offended at his Ministry of Internal Affairs, oh, how they waited for him am
  50. avb
    avb 9 August 2013 10: 36 New
    +2
    Something from Mishani flooded, didn’t I get it on my head?
    1. grafrozow
      grafrozow 9 August 2013 10: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: avb
      Something from Mishani flooded, didn’t I get it on my head?

      The morning after the interview- Well, I called out!
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 9 August 2013 12: 23 New
      +1
      wassat but he was once healthy !! ???????? wassat