Pugachev revolt: citizens angry with murder blocked the road

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In the city of Pugachev, Saratov region, hundreds of local residents held an unauthorized rally outside the administration building. People demanded that people from the North Caucasus be evicted from the city. And this is not the first such action.

According to ITAR-TASS, on the eve of the inhabitants of Pugachev gathered for a spontaneous gathering, which almost ended in a mass brawl. It was attended by about a hundred people.

Protests in the city began after the murder of an 20-year-old local resident. On the night of July 6, a young man was stabbed in the stomach and died in intensive care. Soon, the suspect in the murder was detained: he turned out to be a minor youth 1996, born.

The incident occurred near the cafe "Golden Barrel". According to the Investigation Department of the RF IC in the Saratov region, a quarrel broke out between the victim and the accused, which turned into a fight. “As a result of the conflict, a minor with a scalpel inflicted multiple stab-cuts to the young man’s wounds of the chest. The injured died in a medical facility,” the department explained. The local media immediately clarified that the suspect was from Chechnya. According to some reports, the fight happened because of the girl.

In fact, the murders opened a case on the 1 part of the 105 article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The investigation petitioned for the arrest of the minor, and the court granted the petition. The defendant will be detained for at least two months.

According to the local MIA, on the evening of July 7, about 200 people gathered at the Pugachev Square on Cathedral - the relatives of the deceased came to clarify the relationship with the detainee's relatives. “For the purpose of protecting public order, Pugachevsky’s personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia were involved. The head of the Pugachevsky municipal district and the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, Pugachevsky, addressed the audience. After the preventive conversation, the people dispersed. There were no violations of public order or illegal actions. - informed the police. The guards added that the situation in the city is under control.

The vice-governor of the region, Denis Fadeyev, also arrived at the scene of the incident in order to understand the events. "Those responsible for what happened will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. No one will escape responsibility," he promised. Representatives of the region’s national communities also came from Saratov. At an emergency meeting in the city administration, they expressed condolences to the relatives of the deceased.

Pugachev received conflicting data. Journalist Anton Naumlyuk, who is on the scene, shares operational information in his Twitter account. According to him, on July 8 nearly a thousand people gathered near the city administration. They threw bottles into the administration building and chanted: "Evict!" Then part of the protesters gathered "to go to the pogrom of the Chechens." Participants of the street protest went to the track "Saratov-Samara". The policemen blocked the road, however, "the crowd made their way through the barbed wire and walked around the field," the first clashes with law enforcement officers began. The riot police arrived at the scene.

According to the journalist, the city authorities offered citizens to create an initiative group to somehow solve the problem. However, the locals seem to be radical. According to news agencies, the initiative group was created, and it has already held a meeting in a local house of culture.

Locals, meanwhile, continue to complain. One of them told "Russian service News":" Every year, three years in a row, people of Caucasian nationality kill young people in this cafe. They are very aggressive. People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished. "

As the head of the press service of the Saratov regional branch of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Lyudmila Rossenko, said in her Twitter account, the authorities are calling on residents to disperse. But people do not disagree, some are thinking about spending the night on the street. However, according to her, they managed to free the federal highway. "The head arrived (administration - editorial note), led people off the highway, and the police blocked the approaches. The automobile communication was restored," Rossenko said.

In some mass media and blogs, information appeared about the introduction of military equipment in Pugachev. Journalist Anton Naumlyuk does not confirm this information: "Military equipment is not here. Riot police do not exit the car."

The governor of the Saratov region Valery Radaev expressed his condolences to the relatives of the murdered young man. He also urged the inhabitants of Pugachev to remain calm. “I express my sincere condolences to the family, relatives and friends of the deceased Ruslan Marzhanov. It is terrible and bitter when the young men die in peacetime. And the fact that this tragedy caused a resonance among the population of Pugachev, from Ruslan’s compatriots, I can understand and share their pain”, - his statement is given on the official website of the government of the Saratov region.

The head of the region called on the townspeople "not to give vent to emotions and feelings." “We know the irreversible consequences of lynching, escalation of the situation, and speculation on a national theme. Historical the experience of our multinational country does not allow us to forget about this and calm down, "said Radaev.
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  1. 0
    9 July 2013 16: 01
    Whoops... well, why do these “children of the mountains” all carry knives and similar objects?! We've already had enough. So they would beat each other’s turnips and that’s it. No, you have to grab the sharp one right away... In general, all these “knife grabbers” are inadequate, regardless of nationality. Did five people kick him, why did he take out the scalpel? Well, now they’ll put you in prison... on the territory of Chechnya, and then they’ll release you on parole. And the guy was buried. ((
    It doesn't matter which of them was more drunk. It’s time to put an end to this “national-traditional” knife-wielding.
    1. Lakkuchu
      +3
      9 July 2013 19: 26
      Quote: Mairos
      Whoops... well, why do these “children of the mountains” all carry knives and similar objects?! We've had enough already


      I consider the use of a knife in a fair one-on-one fight to be meanness and cowardice. Unfortunately, the younger generation in the Caucasus began to ignore the concepts of a fair fight that existed before, now even in a crowd they can kick one, use a knife or injure themselves, and they are also proud of it - degenerates! And for Czechs, stabbing someone with a knife in a fight has always been the norm.
    2. Yarbay
      -2
      9 July 2013 23: 40
      Quote: Mairos
      Did five people kick him, why did he take out the scalpel? Well, they'll put you in prison now..

      Are a 20 year old paratrooper and a 16 year old boy equivalent in strength?)))
      1. MG42
        +3
        9 July 2013 23: 45
        Quote: Yarbay
        Are a 20 year old paratrooper and a 16 year old boy equivalent in strength?)))

        Or maybe that wasn't the case? Other witnesses claim that the fight took place with the Chechen older brother, at which time the younger one took out a scalpel from behind his back and inflicted several blows. blows..
        And in general, a fight on interethnic grounds can arise out of nowhere due to difficulties in language communication... especially since there are still conflicts before that...
        1. RPD
          +1
          9 July 2013 23: 59
          no, it’s just “it’s not Rafik’s fault” again
          1. MG42
            +2
            10 July 2013 00: 04
            Anyone who has participated in such fights knows >>> that in a crowd there are no one-on-one fights, someone will always join the fighter.. > this is just a carefree childhood..
          2. 0
            10 July 2013 20: 06
            Quote: RPD
            no, it’s just “it’s not Rafik’s fault” again

            Yes, it’s just that the process of ignoring has reached the point that in any situation, Caucasians will believe that Rafik is not to blame, and the Russians will believe that he is.
            That's what we're talking about!!!
        2. Yarbay
          +2
          10 July 2013 14: 15
          Quote: MG42
          Or maybe that wasn't the case? Other witnesses claim that the fight was with a Chechen older brother,

          Or maybe not so????
          Why then doesn’t anyone touch the elder one??
          I think it's just another speculation!!
          If it had been so, if there had been witnesses, my brother would have been arrested long ago too!
          Quote: MG42
          And in general, a fight on interethnic grounds can arise out of nowhere due to difficulties in language communication... especially since there are still conflicts before that...

          You specifically write that they quarreled over a girl!!
          1. MG42
            +2
            10 July 2013 15: 04
            Quote: Yarbay
            You specifically write that they quarreled over a girl!!

            And comment on this video, it caused a great resonance, the wave even reached us in Ukraine..
      2. MG42
        +2
        9 July 2013 23: 54
        I came across a video of one Russian paratrooper against a crowd of Caucasians >>>
        1. Yarbay
          -4
          10 July 2013 14: 18
          Quote: MG42
          I came across a video of one Russian paratrooper against a crowd of Caucasians

          But where are the Caucasians?)))))))))
          Maybe the paratrooper is Caucasian?))))
          1. MG42
            +2
            10 July 2013 14: 22
            Quote: Yarbay
            The paratrooper might be Caucasian?)

            What's so funny? it is clear that the paratrooper is being attacked by a crowd; if you look at the freeze frame, you can see the characteristic features of his appearance. There are also similar videos, for example in Moscow, in color with comments..
            1. Yarbay
              -3
              10 July 2013 16: 42
              Quote: MG42
              What's so funny? it is clear that the paratrooper is being attacked by a crowd,

              a crowd?))) yes, there was clearly a drunken man there, and others were also walking around drunk for something)))
              I don’t see the characteristic features of a non-Russian or Caucasian))))))))
        2. Yarbay
          -1
          10 July 2013 14: 22
          There are hundreds of similar videos on YouTube, where Caucasians and paratroopers fight and where paratroopers are humiliated!

          http://truba.com/video/207453/
          1. MG42
            +2
            10 July 2013 14: 29
            Quote: Yarbay
            where Caucasians and paratroopers fight and where paratroopers are humiliated! http://truba.com/video/207453

            Well? I watched an equal fight, it’s not clear who won.
            1. Yarbay
              0
              10 July 2013 16: 43
              Quote: MG42
              Well? I watched an equal fight, it’s not clear who won.

              how is it not clear?)))
              Everything is clear there)))))
          2. RPD
            +3
            10 July 2013 14: 31
            a typical Caucasian show-off, and in this case the scoundrel will be your hero. backstab hero as usual
        3. Yarbay
          -2
          10 July 2013 14: 32

          everything happens
          1. MG42
            +3
            10 July 2013 14: 37
            Quote: Yarbay
            everything happens

            So these students got into a fight in the dorm, apparently they are nerds, they let them into the stalls... wink Where is the landing party?
            1. Yarbay
              -1
              10 July 2013 16: 48
              Quote: MG42
              Where is the landing party?



              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9zkr-Xn8AY
              1. MG42
                +2
                10 July 2013 17: 49
                Quote: Yarbay
                Kalinka http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9zkr-Xn8AY

                So it’s like Kadyrov’s people are mocking us? And yet here is the video Today, 15: 04 The inscription on the back of the T-shirt is clearly visible even a TV channel I noticed this...or will you deny that it’s not Caucasians who are trashing a cafe in the Kemerovo region?
                Actually, from the outside, of course, the polemic between a citizen of Ukraine and a citizen of Azerbaijan on an internal Russian issue is not entirely adequate, perhaps I’m not quite on topic..
            2. Yarbay
              +1
              10 July 2013 16: 49
              Quote: MG42
              Where is the landing party?




              although I would rip the guts out of those bastards who mock like that!!
          2. anarch
            +1
            14 July 2013 22: 35
            Quote: Yarbay
            everything happens

            In this situation everything is simple.
            The young impudent man learned the transfer to the ground. I found a guy who initially did not have such skills.
            (yes, half a head shorter, but in this situation this is not a minus, but a plus - we’re making a movie)
            Further, he provoked a fight with obvious work on camera.
            There are two scumbags in the plot. The second one takes off. But I am more than sure that in the event of an unforeseen development of events, he is charged with a blow from behind.
            At first I wanted to write that the steam will come up someday.
            But after some reasonable reflection, I came to the conclusion that I wouldn’t lie - I was too picky in choosing my opponents.
            And I felt sorry for the shirt. According to the laws of the genre, it had to break.
            I am attaching another video where Doug ran into it.
            True, the situation was clearly not in his favor, i.e. unfair.
            The fight is not in the corridor, but in the ring.
            Doug bvl alone and without a knife.
            Very unfair.
      3. +2
        10 July 2013 09: 35
        It all depends on the size and strength characteristics.)) 16-year-old boys are very different. And second, you either go out one on one or you don’t, but going out with a blade, knowingly intending to cut, is bestiality and meanness (regardless of any nationality). If he had been robbed or beaten by hooligans, he himself would have justified his actions. And so... well, after all, we are not animals, but people. Or does the concept of honor in the Caucasus now lie in the concept of “kill by any means” - even meanly, even with a knife when fighting with your hands? Then why is such a person better than an animal?
        1. MG42
          +3
          10 July 2013 12: 00
          Quote: Mairos
          It all depends on the size and strength characteristics.)) 16-year-old boys are very different.

          I strongly disagree, I would bet on the paratrooper in a fair fight, it’s a shame the guy was meanly stabbed to death..
          Quote: Mairos
          And second, you either go out one on one or you don’t, but going out with a blade, knowingly intending to cut, is bestiality and meanness (for any nationality)

          Once again, if it’s not clear, there was a crowd coming out when two people fight in such a situation, especially BROTHER, the youngest’s bar was torn off when the landing force began to hit the older one..
          Quote: Mairos
          Or does the concept of honor in the Caucasus now lie in the concept of “kill by any means” - even meanly, even with a knife when fighting with your hands? Then why is such a person better than an animal?

          Come down to earth sad I wouldn’t have said this if I hadn’t come across this myself when I was visiting, I remarked to a resident of the Caucasus not to spit in the entrance, after saying good evening, she started yelling and her husband flew out in shorts and a kitchen knife, it turns out you can’t talk to women to strangers, besides She understands the Russian language extremely difficultly, judging by the fact that she is apparently a Muslim in a headscarf, they are extremely friendly groups if anything.
          The second case, now I just collided with a Russian on a narrow road, dirt on both sides, shoulder to shoulder, he took out a knife, if I hadn’t dodged he would have pierced his stomach... you have to be prepared for anything...
          1. Yarbay
            -3
            10 July 2013 14: 33
            Quote: MG42
            I strongly disagree, I would bet on the paratrooper in a fair fight, it’s a shame the guy was meanly stabbed to death.

            Or maybe a paratrooper meanly beat a 16 year old child and got it in the end???
            1. RPD
              +3
              10 July 2013 14: 36
              As usual, “Rafik is not to blame”? and remember the “children” from the pioneer camp? it’s true that the Armenians came there to fuck them up, so “Russian fascism” didn’t work out
            2. anarch
              +2
              13 July 2013 02: 56
              Quote: Yarbay
              Or maybe a paratrooper meanly beat a 16 year old child and got it in the end???

              It is clear - mutual responsibility.
              For Caucasians, Russian is always to blame.
              I apologize - I’m not Caucasian (because I foresee excuses that Ruslan is half Tatar).
              That's just bad luck.
              There were two attackers. One held it.
              Apparently the blows were thrown by a “child”.
              Excerpt from an interview with the mother of the murdered man given to a correspondent of Komsomolskaya Pravda
              In addition, the woman told her version of what happened, which differs from the official version of the murder. According to her, Ruslan did not have a permanent girlfriend, and the guy was brought to the hospital by casual acquaintances, and not by Ali Nazirov’s relatives.

              - Most likely, the Chechens treated the girl incorrectly, and my son stood up for her, and so a conflict arose. Ruslan was taken to the hospital by two Dagestanis. We met an hour before the fight, they asked where the young people were relaxing, Ruslan recommended the Golden Barrel cafe. The three of them reached the cafe, then separated, after a while the Dagestanis left the cafe, saw that two unknown people were running away towards the station, and Ruslan was lying in blood. A security guard saw them running away, I don’t understand why he still doesn’t give evidence,” said Svetlana Marzhanova. “Judging by the damage, which I saw while sitting over his body, my son was held and beaten. He had several cuts on his face; they wanted to hit him in the neck, but he dodged. It seems to me that more than one person did this.
              http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1483273
      4. anarch
        0
        13 July 2013 02: 05
        Quote: Yarbay
        Are a 20 year old paratrooper and a 16 year old boy equivalent in strength?)))

        Words from the victim's mother:
        In addition, the woman told her version of what happened, which differs from the official version of the murder. According to her, Ruslan did not have a permanent girlfriend, and the guy was brought to the hospital by casual acquaintances, and not by Ali Nazirov’s relatives.

        - Most likely, the Chechens treated the girl incorrectly, and my son stood up for her, and so a conflict arose. Ruslan was taken to the hospital by two Dagestanis. We met an hour before the fight, they asked where the young people were relaxing, Ruslan recommended the Golden Barrel cafe. The three of them reached the cafe, then separated, after a while the Dagestanis left the cafe, saw that two unknown people were running away towards the station, and Ruslan was lying in blood. A security guard saw them running away, I don’t understand why he still doesn’t give evidence,” said Svetlana Marzhanova. “Judging by the damage, which I saw while sitting over his body, my son was held and beaten. He had several cuts on his face; they wanted to hit him in the neck, but he dodged. It seems to me that more than one person did this.
        Source - Komsomolskaya Pravda http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1483273
    3. MG42
      +2
      10 July 2013 00: 43
      Quote: Mairos
      So they would beat each other’s turnips and that’s it. No, you have to grab the sharp one right away... In general, all these “knife grabbers” are inadequate, regardless of nationality. Did five people kick him, why did he take out the scalpel? Well, they'll put you in prison now

      Landing troops are trained to knock out knives very well, a 16-year-old Chechen had no chance, this is clearly not the same as in the official version
      P/s Yes, now anything can happen in a fight, a knife can cause injury, they carry a stun gun...
      1. 0
        10 July 2013 11: 57
        They don't teach paratroopers anything. Even special forces are taught first of all to run, shoot, survive and camouflage, and everything else comes later. Hand-to-hand combat is not a priority - in order for there to be hand-to-hand combat, a fighter must be left without ammunition, grenades and a knife and... meet another enemy of the same type - the probability is low. That's why it's not a priority.
        1. MG42
          +2
          10 July 2013 14: 16
          Quote: Mairos
          They don't teach paratroopers anything. Even special forces are taught first of all to run, shoot, survive and camouflage, and everything else comes later. Melee is not a priority

          Stop driving the blizzard...
      2. Yarbay
        -2
        10 July 2013 14: 37
        Quote: MG42
        Landing troops are taught how to knock out knives well,

        come on)))
        If a paratrooper is drunk at least twice, not only will he not knock out a knife, but he’s also paralyzing himself!!
        1. MG42
          +3
          10 July 2013 14: 42
          Quote: Yarbay
          If a paratrooper is drunk at least twice, not only will he not knock out a knife, but he’s also paralyzing himself!

          Well, this is in particular, there are reflexes at the subconscious level, apparently the opposite side was also drunk... By the way, being intoxicated is an aggravating circumstance in criminal liability..
  2. Nevsky
    +3
    9 July 2013 16: 21
    And no one wrote about the Russian mother. He was her only child. sad
    1. +5
      9 July 2013 16: 29
      Grief.. But that’s why the child was the only one?! Why do the same Chechens have 3-4-5, and we have 1-2? When will we start giving birth?
  3. sergey261180
    +3
    9 July 2013 16: 26
    Governor of the Saratov Region Valery Radaev expressed condolences to the loved ones of the murdered young man. He also called on residents of Pugachev to remain calm. “I express my sincere condolences to the family, relatives and friends of the deceased Ruslan Marzhanov. It is terrible and bitter when young guys die in peacetime. And the fact that this tragedy caused a resonance among the population of Pugachev, among Ruslan’s fellow countrymen, I can understand and share their pain,” - his statement is given on the official website of the government of the Saratov region.

    The head of the region called on the townspeople “not to give free rein to emotions and feelings.” “We know what irreversible consequences lynching, escalating the situation, and speculation on a national theme can lead to. The historical experience of our multinational country does not allow us to forget about this and calm down,” he emphasized Radaev.

    Calm, just calm! Pay attention to the last name: Radaev-Raduev. Same. And look at his face. Any questions?
  4. EGORKA
    0
    9 July 2013 16: 40
    Quote: sergey261180

    Calm, just calm! Pay attention to the last name: Radaev-Raduev. Same. And look at his face. Any questions?

    http://saratov.gov.ru/governor/biography/ вот его биография,да и при чем тут национальность,заносит так,что везде начинают искать причину...на Украине есть "рада" ее не Радуев создал,не?)
    1. sergey261180
      +3
      9 July 2013 17: 16
      Well, yes, it would seem that nationality has nothing to do with it? Just as criminals have no nationality, so their roof has no nationality. And there is one more thing: Russians do not have their own state. What is now called Russia is more correctly called Khazarstan.
  5. waisson
    +3
    9 July 2013 16: 43
    The young man, who is now the accused, came to the region several months ago and helped his relatives with “housework”; he did not study or work anywhere. “Whether he was involved or not - we don’t know that yet,” noted Sergei Lavrentievich.
    A week before the tragedy, the accused approached a certain girl and wanted to meet her. Ruslan Marzhanov approached him and made the remark that this was his girlfriend. “Because of this, a conflict arose. About a week later they met. The victim was unarmed,” Kulapov explained.
    Some media outlets, citing witnesses from among the Pugachevites, write that more than two people took part in the fight and that the fatal blows could not have been delivered by a teenager
    Over 13 damage was caused
    The population of Pugachev is about 40 thousand people, of which Chechens, according to various sources, range from 90 to a little over a hundred.
    1. Piterkras
      -5
      9 July 2013 17: 22
      It turns out that none of the 40000 residents of the city can calm down the 100 Chechens so much that they have to hold a meeting and shout about the tyranny of the visitors? Hmmm... We Russians have completely gone downhill. DISGRACE!
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  6. RPD
    +3
    9 July 2013 16: 50
    Because of this, the conflict arose. About a week later they met. The victim was unarmed."

    no affect, purposefully went to cut
    1. +5
      9 July 2013 17: 33
      Quote: RPD
      Because of this, the conflict arose. About a week later they met. The victim was unarmed."

      no affect, purposefully went to cut

      Well, what, he couldn’t purposefully, all the Pugachevites walk around the city with scalpels...
      Over the last ten years, attempts have been actively made to find the “Russian Idea”, to unite the people, increase the birth rate and reduce the use of tobacco and alcohol.
      At the same time, tolerance is also actively promoted, as a result, as always, we have more responsibilities than rights. We cannot own weapons for self-defense, according to the law we cannot even hang a flag out the window, the “I AM RUSSIAN” T-shirt is considered almost radicalism.
      Moreover, when cases similar to the one discussed occur, they immediately begin to actively remind us that we ourselves are drunk and running into everything.
      In Ukraine, people are starting to destroy the same areas.
      If they bring the people to a full-fledged revolt, everything will be bad for everyone.
  7. EGORKA
    +3
    9 July 2013 17: 03
    such a resonance also because they say in 2010 there was a 2 on 2 fight between Russians and Chechens there in Pugachev and then a Chechen also used a knife and killed him, they seemed to imprison him, but apparently people suspect that they have already released him and here they are again
  8. RPD
    +3
    9 July 2013 17: 07
    resonance))) yes, this happens every day in the country
    Similar cases occurred throughout Russia both before Kondopoga and after it, until the turn reached the city of Pugacheva, where, as it now turns out, this is not the first time, according to various testimonies, three to five local people have already died there at the hands of visitors from the Caucasus residents.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/analytics/20130709/948596648.html#ixzz2YYModErE
  9. EGORKA
    +2
    9 July 2013 17: 34
    The most offensive thing will be if the authorities do not learn anything from these events, and neither do the people.
    1. +3
      9 July 2013 17: 54
      Alas, but this is exactly how it will be... For the highest authorities, the scale of the conflict is small, and the majority of the people have not yet encountered national conflicts and, because of this, are still quite inert...
  10. EGORKA
    +3
    9 July 2013 17: 56
    [quote=RPD][/quote]

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/analytics/20130709/948596648.html#ixzz2YYModErE[/quote]

    and the article in RIA minus, it poses a question like, should visitors observe the rules, customs and traditions of the place where they came, they are also citizens of our country... it turns out that the author put it on the people who have lived there for centuries, on their foundations and orders?! Yes, any foreigner, say, from Chunga-Changa in Africa, having received Russian citizenship, can come to Pugachev and build Chunga-Changa there?! awesome logic from the journalist) This is part of the problem, we must respect and try to accept local traditions and foundations. Otherwise, people leave their country in search of a better life in a more prosperous place and begin to build what they left, why?)
  11. Muxauk
    +2
    9 July 2013 17: 57
    Quote: Yeraz
    Damn, why did the friction between them begin???
    just understand, I myself participated in many fights in my youth, my roots are always in everyday life. Ali and Valera accidentally bumped into each other at the entrance, let's go, what are you doing))
    Then Ali dismantled his people to collect them, they say, with the Rusak (after all, he will not explain with whom, due to unfamiliarity) and the same thing with Vlora, they quarreled with a chock and a clash of groups, and after some time the people who beat each other in another brawl will for each other, as if everyone had mutual acquaintances.
    The authorities must stop everything in time.
    But now the situation is such that no one looks at who is to blame. They just pay attention to the nation.
    I am more than sure that if tomorrow, some Russian accidentally hurt me and in response to my requests to apologize, he will send me and have a family, I will stab him with a knife. But he will blame me. The same thing is the other way around.
    The situation became stalemate. In multinational Russia, this is dangerous. The events in Pugachev showed that not only the guy who killed was to blame, but all the Chechens of the city.
    The collapse of the USSR was the first stage, the second stage is the collapse of Russia and seeing the inaction of the authorities creates the feeling that everything is repeating itself, escalation, escalation, inaction and boom.

    The fact that they hit each other in the face is bullshit, but for knives it’s not good. In this situation, nothing is really known yet, only the fact that the Chechen failed the Russian, and that’s all. Three words are highlighted here: a Chechen killed a Russian. Murders occur every day, but only painful topics are covered.
    In general, diasporas need to be destroyed, let them live and communicate, they didn’t go abroad to live, but with their own compatriots. And don’t pull every insolent puppy out of trouble, I think this guy was weird before too, they pulled their own out. In this case, it would be disgraceful to imprison the boy and those who helped him after the murder. We need to help, but we also need to educate, at least with our own people, so that they don’t become insolent. If the mixture goes ahead, then the division will be more serious not only into Caucasians and Russians, and all the sores will come out.
    1. +1
      9 July 2013 21: 40
      Quote: MuxaHuk
      The fact that they hit each other in the face is bullshit

      Well, how can I say it’s bullshit, where the curb is, someone has a strong blow and there are all sorts of factors.
      Quote: MuxaHuk
      In general, diasporas need to be destroyed, let them live and communicate, they didn’t go abroad to live, but with their own compatriots. And don’t pull every insolent puppy out of trouble, I think this guy was weird before too, they pulled their own out. In this case, it would be disgraceful to imprison the boy and those who helped him after the murder. We need to help, but we also need to educate, at least with our own people, so that they don’t become insolent. If the mixture goes ahead, then the division will be more serious not only into Caucasians and Russians, and all the sores will come out.

      Yes, it’s not the leaders of the diasporas who pull it out, the bulk of the leadership of these diasporas are deeply violet about those whom they supposedly represent, as well as vice versa. If it’s only a relative who pulls it out, or wealthy people can help if the guy is not guilty.
      I’ll go and stab someone tomorrow, do you think the diaspora will rush to save me??? He won’t give a damn. These diasporas are structures of the Russian Federation, they are usually led by the richest representatives of the diaspora, and they are 99% former criminals who wear ties in close quarters connections with the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
      Diasporas are NOTHING!!!
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      9 July 2013 22: 59
      Quote: MuxaHuk
      In this case, it would be disgraceful to imprison the boy and those who helped him after the murder.
      It is necessary to plant it, it is obligatory, but we don’t know what the reason was yet!!
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  13. RPD
    +5
    9 July 2013 19: 01
    Let us recall that, according to eyewitnesses, the conflict initially broke out between visitors to the local cafe “Golden Barrel” - Ruslan and the elder Nazirov, who repeatedly pestered his girlfriend. The young people moved away from the doors of the cafe, which, by the way, is patrolled by Cossacks. The brawl itself took place at the house adjacent to the mansion of the head of the district administration. In the midst of the fight (at this time Ruslan’s friends stood aside), the younger Nazirov attacked Ruslan from behind and struck with a scalpel - in this way he tried to help his older brother in the fight. The fact that Ruslan was bleeding became clear a little later - since everything happened in an unlit place.
  14. -2
    9 July 2013 19: 01
    I read a lot of opinions and I agree with many!! And I was on Caucasian forums and read for a long time... and commented... But this is the thought I have! Imagine in small provincial towns, and in large ones, suddenly people suddenly start killing just like that, “immigrants from Asia and the Caucasus..” And just imagine, they begin to destroy the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Administration.. block roads.. then strange people with weapons appear and begin to seize all important government institutions. ..And then these same people are driven home, supposedly all power has passed to those you wanted, shooting, shooting...etc. There is no Russia.. Guys! we are trying a scheme like the Arabs but with a Russian accent.. Be careful with your statements.. The liberals want to play this trick!!! I remember when at the swamp rallies.. the forums were already screaming with anticipation Russia is falling apart...
  15. 0
    9 July 2013 19: 02
    I read a lot of opinions and I agree with many!! And I was on Caucasian forums and read for a long time... and commented... But this is the thought I have! Imagine in small provincial towns, and in large ones, suddenly people suddenly start killing just like that, “immigrants from Asia and the Caucasus..” And just imagine, they begin to destroy the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Administration.. block roads.. then strange people with weapons appear and begin to seize all important government institutions. ..And then these same people are driven home, supposedly all power has passed to those you wanted, shooting, shooting...etc. There is no Russia.. Guys! we are trying a scheme like the Arabs but with a Russian accent.. Be careful with your statements.. The liberals want to play this trick!!! I remember when at the swamp rallies.. the forums were already screaming with anticipation Russia is falling apart...
  16. +5
    9 July 2013 19: 03
    I am amazed at our patience!!!
    I haven’t studied this issue closely, but I have had to deal with it. My impression is the following: at first glance, it seems that the relations between officials and representatives of the Caucasian diasporas are based on corruption and thirst for profit, but later you realize that the dominant role in the relations is played by banal human cowardice. This is where all the trouble comes from. If the ambition of Caucasians had been suppressed from the very beginning, such tragedies would have been rare. If it breaks through, there will be chaos...
    1. +4
      9 July 2013 21: 44
      Quote: Savva30
      If the ambition of Caucasians had been stopped from the very beginning, such tragedies would have been rare.

      Golden words!!! That’s how many times I say that don’t be afraid of prison and everything else, but to me it’s primitiveness, etc. if the locals would decide in time, without relying on the authorities, then unnecessary movements would be immediately stopped
      nothing like that would have happened. And so 1 endured, 2,3,4, it became the norm of the state without a care and as a result, insane hatred on national grounds in a multinational country.
      1. Yarbay
        +4
        9 July 2013 23: 02
        Quote: Yeraz
        That’s how much I say that don’t be afraid of prison and everything else, but to me it’s primitiveness, etc. if the locals would decide in time, without relying on the authorities, then unnecessary movements would be immediately stopped
        nothing like that would happen.

        I believe that the authorities should stop this first of all!
        If a boor and a bandit knows that punishment is inevitable, he will not bother anyone and will generally think a hundred times before bothering!!
        1. +2
          9 July 2013 23: 06
          Quote: Yarbay
          I believe that the authorities should stop this first of all!

          Of course, but the beauty of Russian laws is that they are not enforced, so when the state ignores you, it is better to do justice yourself than to sit and be patient.
          1. +1
            10 July 2013 09: 48
            But adequate! A knife against a word (usually spoken out of emotion), as you defend, is savagery.
            1. +1
              10 July 2013 20: 18
              Quote: Mairos
              But adequate! A knife against a word (usually spoken out of emotion), as you defend, is savagery.

              Understand, we won’t prove anything to each other.
              because our concept of honor and family are different and the sanctions when I encroach are also different.
              The concept of wildness is also different, for some it is wildness to see a half-naked girl, a girl who had a lot of other men in her life besides her husband.

              You can simply appeal to the fact that this is my country, we have such rules in relation to me, a citizen of the Russian Federation, but from Azerbaijan it will be fair, BUT NOT to representatives of the NORTH CAUCASUS!! Because they are the indigenous inhabitants of this country and can also say This is how we do it.
              I am ready to be punished for my reaction, which will seem wild to a Russian.
              as the Turks say Aslanlar kimi yatarim.
              1. Yarbay
                0
                11 July 2013 00: 37
                Quote: Yeraz
                as the Turks say Aslanlar kimi yatarim.

                I wasn't surprised!))
                I respect you, although now I couldn’t do it like you!!
  17. EGORKA
    +2
    9 July 2013 19: 08
    Quote: MIKHAN
    shooting shooting ..etc. There is no Russia.. Guys! we are trying a scheme like the Arabs but with a Russian accent.. Be careful with your statements.. The liberals want to play this trick!!! I remember when at the swamp rallies.. the forums were already screaming with anticipation Russia is falling apart...


    paranoia?) they write Navalny they write Navalny tried to speculate on this topic, but he was quickly turned off by posts on his blog
  18. +1
    9 July 2013 19: 18
    Well hardingush, I commented on this event on my blog.

    People are asking to comment on the events in the city of Pugachev. For those who don’t know, there a 16-year-old asshole stabbed to death with a scalpel a 20-year-old guy, a recently discharged paratrooper. People are asking - how long?
    There's a lot to talk about here, actually. It’s a fact that Caucasian guys don’t like to get punched in the face. Getting punched in the face is a terrible insult. Therefore, wrestling is developed in the Caucasus, not boxing or karate. For Russians, using a knife during a fight is a bummer. This is such a violation of the code of fair fighting, like two on one. To pull out a knife in a one-on-one fight is to sign your own cowardice and insignificance. Especially sharpening. Especially a scalpel. Only roosters do this.
    Yes, an ordinary fight can end in death. The Mirzaev case proved this. However, Mirzaev did not want to kill. And the 16-year-old disgrace of the Chechen Republic had room for maneuver. It could not have hit them with a scalpel, it could have threatened them, which would have allowed the situation to be resolved in the direction of “I won’t mess with a fool.” And in this case, it would admit its own cowardice, but it would not go to prison. Now he will sit down. Because there is no smell of self-defense there.
    But I would like to say this. There is a saying: “If you have a hammer in your hands, everything around you looks like a nail.” Carrying a knife with you greatly increases the likelihood of going to jail for domestic violence. Guns give the owner a false sense of safety. Safety is achieved not by increasing the response, already one’s own, danger to others, but by simply avoiding danger. A person with a knife (or injury) is much more likely to run into conflict. This is how man is made. Yes, in some situations it is better to be armed than unarmed. But by being constantly armed, you are guaranteed to increase the number of such situations in your life.
    If you take a global view, you see little more than a domestic stabbing. Anti-Caucasian sentiments are actively developing in Russia. Caucasian youth outside their native region do not feel safe and arm themselves with knives for self-defense. Having a knife lulls them into a false sense of security. And it gives new episodes for anti-Caucasian sentiments. I have already said: the work is going in two directions - Caucasian youth are being incited to engage in defiant behavior, and the rest of Russian youth are being encouraged to react negatively to this matter. Or does someone think that for 70 years we found a common language with Caucasians, and now suddenly we stopped with the wave of a magic wand? We are being pitted against each other and we are actively falling for it.
    The people took to the streets in Pugachev because they were also fed tendentious information about such conflicts. They were shown the trash that hangs out in Moscow shopping centers in tight jeans and red moccasins, the trash that is despised in their small homeland. But what to do with this Dagestan guy in the video below? Is he an exception? Not at all. But what comes to the surface most often...

    http://hardingush.livejournal.com/
    1. +1
      9 July 2013 20: 12
      Absolutely true. Moreover, one can see with the naked eye how biased the conflicts in which Caucasians are involved are presented by the media. How much noise there was around Mirzoev, but recently when a boxer started a fight, hit his opponent several times, he died as a result and the boxer was sentenced to a year of “restricted freedom”, there was no indignation there was no mention of this in the media. Simply because the boxer was Russian by nationality and the murdered Tatar. When Dag, who could not swim, drowned while saving two girls in the Moscow region, regional television casually reported this. A great many examples can be given - the fact remains that our media with they relish with great pleasure the crimes committed by Caucasians Who will now remember the name of the Russian scumbag who a couple of months ago went on a shooting spree in the center of Orel and killed four? Nobody But if something like this had been committed by a Caucasian, they would still be talking about it every day on all channels. There is only one conclusion - interethnic hatred is being deliberately incited in the country. The same forces that destroyed the USSR are now deliberately trying to destroy Russia. And the collapse of Russia will begin with the separation of the Caucasus. Reading the comments on the site it is clearly clear that the seeds of hostility are falling on very fertile soil - how much righteous anger and calls there are to “cut down the chumps” , how much poorly hidden desire to wait for the “Russian rebellion” How can you guys not understand that you are simply being treated like suckers?
      1. +3
        9 July 2013 21: 48
        Quote: rus9875
        How can you guys not understand that you are simply being played for suckers?
        good
        1. 0
          10 July 2013 13: 36
          And it is, it is... It’s stupid to disagree. They want to tear us apart or plunge us into savagery. That’s why I’m writing that we need to look for mutual understanding at a new level. It's terribly difficult, but possible, I hope.
      2. smersh70
        +2
        9 July 2013 22: 44
        Quote: rus9875
        Moreover, the naked eye can see how biased the media are in presenting conflicts in which Caucasians are involved.


        Respect and Respect!!!!!! hi
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    2. ed65b
      +1
      10 July 2013 10: 51
      Quote: Russ69
      Caucasian youth outside their native region do not feel safe and arm themselves with knives for self-defense.

      So you don’t have to wander around Russia and sit at home.
    3. Yarbay
      +1
      10 July 2013 14: 40
      Quote: Russ69
      there a 16 year old asshole stabbed a 20 year old guy with a scalpel

      This attitude is killing me))))))
      Are a 20-year-old discharged paratrooper and a 16-year-old boy equal in strength?))))))))))
      Trouble with you))))))

      ***I have already said: the work is going in two directions - Caucasian youth are being incited to engage in defiant behavior, and the rest of Russian youth are being encouraged to react negatively to this matter. Or does someone think that for 70 years we found a common language with Caucasians, and now suddenly we stopped with the wave of a magic wand? We are being pitted against each other and we are actively falling for it.
      The people took to the streets in Pugachev because they were also fed tendentious information about such conflicts. They were shown the trash that hangs out in Moscow shopping centers in tight jeans and red moccasins, the trash that is despised in their small homeland. But what to do with this Dagestan guy in the video below? Is he an exception? Not at all. But what floats to the surface most often....**** - and this is true!!!
      1. RPD
        +2
        10 July 2013 14: 42
        the trouble is with you, as usual you are shielding your killer, with whom no one fought
      2. +1
        10 July 2013 20: 50
        Getting punched in the face is a terrible insult. Therefore, wrestling is developed in the Caucasus, not boxing or karate
        Alibek question about wrestling. Don’t you think this is crap? I understand, of course, that in Islam it is a sin to hit in the face, but what does this have to do with the popularity of wrestling and the “unpopularity” of other types of martial arts? Although anyone who has done it knows how dangerous it is for injury sports and blows to the face are far from uncommon there. For some reason (?) he doesn’t know how developed karate, sambo, wushu sanda, boxing, muay thai are today in the Caucasus, and let’s not even talk about mixed martial arts (mixed fight) nothing. So where is “dislike” to get hit in the “face”. What do you think, as a Caucasian?
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          11 July 2013 00: 52
          Quote: Gleb
          Alibek question about wrestling. Don’t you think this is crap? I understand, of course, that in Islam it is a sin to hit in the face, but what does this have to do with the popularity of wrestling and the “unpopularity” of other types of martial arts?

          I didn’t write this and it’s really crap!
          I once went into wrestling because of my brother, he was a wrestler!! There are quite a few boxers too!
          Believe me, in Islam the sin does not lie in hitting the face, the sin is in the action!! That is, if you hit the weak or oppress the weak, then this is a sin, but if you hit the oppressor in the face, then this, on the contrary, is not condemned by religion!
          It is the duty of a Muslim to protect the weak and oppressed!!
          Quote: Gleb
          although anyone who has practiced knows what a traumatic sport it is and blows to the face are far from uncommon there. For some reason(?) he doesn’t know how developed karate, sambo, wushu sanda, boxing, muay thai are in the Caucasus today, but oh mixed martial arts (mixed fight) and there is nothing to say. So where is “dislike” to get hit in the “face”. What do you think, as a Caucasian?

          For example, we have a lot of world champions in karate, kickboxing, my brother is a cousin of the world champion in wushu sanda!!
          The map team is one of the best in the world!
          Rafael Agayev (multiple European and world champion) is considered the most technical karateka in the world, he is often called the pearl of karate!
          http://www.azerbaijans.com/content_689_ru.html



          Recently Zabit Samedov defeated Badr Hari!
          1. +1
            11 July 2013 01: 02
            I see that I didn’t write, I just asked as a Caucasian (I asked as someone who understands)). And regarding blows to the face, maybe I didn’t express myself correctly, but more than once I have come across such opinions that it seems like, for example, a Muslim should not engage in boxing. It seems like a blow you have to hit your face, but intentionally causing harm to your body (face) seems to be a sin. This has nothing to do with me, but I’ve heard this. I’m not familiar with the canons of Islam wink
            (I can't watch the video)
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              11 July 2013 01: 26
              Quote: Gleb
              I see that I didn’t write, I just asked as a Caucasian. As for blows to the face, maybe I didn’t express myself correctly, but more than once I’ve come across such opinions that it seems like, for example, a Muslim should not engage in boxing. It seems like a blow has to be in the face, but it’s intentionally inflicted harming your body (face) seems to be a sin. This has nothing to do with me, but I’ve heard this. I’m not familiar with the canons of Islam

              Dear Gleb, I am 41 years old and a Muslim and not one of those who studied yesterday or learned from illiterate suckers!!
              my great-grandfather was a famous scholar in Islam, people came to him from all over the world just to talk, ask about issues in Islam!!
              You cannot intentionally harm your body, but this applies if it is harmful to you or you are decorating your body (tattoos)! Intention is important!!
              If you play sports to be healthy and strong, then there is no sin, because there are injuries in every sport and it doesn’t matter if your face or leg is injured!! I repeat the question about your intentions!! But if you received a serious injury and are trying to continue playing sports in spite of advice from doctors, for the sake of GLORY, then it’s probably a sin!
              1. +1
                11 July 2013 01: 41
                Well, that’s pretty much how I reasoned. But my opponents put pressure on the fact that I’m not a Muslim and that I can’t tell them about Islam. You can’t do boxing and that’s it. When I brought them a dozen names of professional world champions and asked if they could consider true Muslims - the discussion is over))
                1. Yarbay
                  +1
                  11 July 2013 02: 19
                  Quote: Gleb
                  Well, that’s pretty much how I reasoned. But my opponents pressed me on the fact that I was not a Muslim and that I couldn’t tell them about Islam.

                  Then ask those smart guys, don’t there be injuries in wrestling???)))
                  We have trouble with newly converted Muslims!!!!!!
                  After a year of acquaintance with Islam, everyone considers himself a great scientist and talks about what he has no idea about!!
                  Muhammad Ali was not a Muslim???
                  Or do they know more about Islam than he does??
                  For that matter, smoking is a sin and everyone knows it, but I smoke too!!
                  1. +1
                    11 July 2013 02: 38
                    I’m a little familiar with the freestyle and the conversation just turned to how a palm flies across the face, with the head... I remembered the titanium plate that Saitiev had in the facial area... there, Ali also got it for Tyson (especially for the tattoo), although the New Zealanders charged him more for it Maori))
                    1. Yarbay
                      +1
                      11 July 2013 02: 53
                      Quote: Gleb
                      I’m a little familiar with the free one and the conversation was about how a palm flies across the face, head. I remembered the titanium plate from Saitiev.. there, Ali got it and Tyson (especially for the tattoo), although the New Zealand Maoris charged him more for it

                      You're right!
                      You see, there are things in Islam that Muslims must do!! This is prayer, Hajj, fasting and giving zakat and not betraying partners to God!
                      But the one you cited is from one of the hadiths!
                      It says that on the day of judgment all organs will testify against or for us!! That is, every organ will testify! Well, it seems that the lungs will ask the smoker what he smoked for his own high and caused harm! A broken arm if you broke it because of your stupidity I deliberately didn't brush my teeth!
                      Fingers, for example, for writing slander against someone!! I didn’t take medicine while there, etc., etc. But if you broke something, but your intentions were pure and correct, I don’t think anyone will judge you!
                      I think the idea is clear
                      1. +1
                        11 July 2013 03: 08
                        I think the idea is clear

                        "Yerivar əhvalatdır, qaqa" wink
                        I kept wanting to ask, how are you doing with the transition to the Latin alphabet? doesn't it bother you?
                      2. Yarbay
                        +1
                        11 July 2013 03: 22
                        Quote: Gleb
                        I kept wanting to ask, how are you doing with the transition to the Latin alphabet? doesn't it bother you?

                        It was very stressful at the beginning!!!))
                        And even now I often write in a jumbled manner at work, and so my literacy was poor, now I’m generally a sucker!! I studied at a Russian school, then they switched to the Latin alphabet, I started writing in the Latin alphabet, then I studied abroad, and there I had to learn again!!
                        I got a vinaigrette!! Even on the computer I learned to write because in different languages ​​there are commas and periods in different places, I became an exclamation mark, and the habit remained!!
                      3. +1
                        11 July 2013 03: 26
                        and if we take literature more broadly? scientific, technical, esp.
                        but the classics. How will it be in the future? these are thousands and thousands of books
                      4. Yarbay
                        +1
                        11 July 2013 03: 34
                        Quote: Gleb
                        and if we take literature more broadly? scientific, technical, esp.

                        but the classics. How will it be in the future? these are thousands and thousands of books

                        That's the problem!!
                        You caught the most important thing!!
                        The main disadvantage!
                        Latin is good, but there is almost no literature!! Few world writers are translated yet!
                        That’s why many send their children to Russian or Turkish schools!! Even on the Internet you will hardly find scientific literature in pure Azerbaijani or in Latin!!
                        That's why I sent my son to a Russian school!!
                        So that he can join literature!!
                        It feels like they are doing nothing at all in this area!!
                      5. +1
                        11 July 2013 03: 41
                        I need to go Alibek on business. Thank you. Good luck!
  19. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 19: 20
    Quote: Savva30
    I am amazed at our patience!!!
    I haven’t studied this issue closely, but I have had to deal with it. My impression is the following: at first glance, it seems that the relations between officials and representatives of the Caucasian diasporas are based on corruption and thirst for profit, but later you realize that the dominant role in the relations is played by banal human cowardice. This is where all the trouble comes from. If the ambition of Caucasians had been suppressed from the very beginning, such tragedies would have been rare. If it breaks through, there will be chaos...

    so because of the authorities, for the most part, all the fuss, because of their sluggish actions, or even inaction in such cases, this crazy class of bureaucrats and police is completely swollen from impunity and they are not afraid of anyone; they benefit from this state of affairs, All this distracts people from something else...hence the resonance
  20. AlexW
    +3
    9 July 2013 19: 42
    Pyatigorsk July 9. INTERFAX.RU - The court arrested for two months one of the four people who staged a brawl with beating a policeman in a cafe in Pyatigorsk on July 6, Elena Frolova, assistant to the head of the city investigative department of the Investigative Committee of the Investigative Committee for the Stavropol Territory, told Interfax.


    “Another one is under recognizance not to leave the place. In relation to the remaining participants in the conflict, the court hearing on choosing a preventive measure was postponed, they were detained,” Frolova said.


    As reported, a criminal case has been opened against a 22-year-old and three 20-year-old residents of one of the North Caucasus republics under Part 1 of Art. 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (“Use of violence against a representative of the authorities”) and Art. 319 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ("Insulting a representative of the authorities").


    On July 6, at about 3:00, in the “Na Rublevka” cafe in Pyatigorsk, four visitors refused to pay the bill and caused a scandal. The administration of the establishment contacted the department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for Pyatigorsk. The hooligans beat one of the policemen from the police department that arrived at the scene and insulted him with obscene language.


    To prevent illegal actions, police officers fired twice into the air. The violators were detained and taken to the duty station. The beaten policeman was taken to the hospital. M-yes-ah. How would this policeman not have to “trample the zone” for exceeding......
  21. -1
    9 July 2013 19: 48
    They're leading the topic well..hehe..Don't hype Russia up for these show-offs..Our allies Army Fleet Strategic Missile Forces..What are we working hard on now..It's not for nothing that there is such squealing and provocations..When Russia is strong, all the mongrels usually run away into holes. .And all this barking is an accompaniment.. When the Russian bear comes out of the den and looks around.. hungry and angry.. This is how I figuratively try to express everything that I think... Don’t make us angry...
  22. Muxauk
    +1
    9 July 2013 19: 56
    Quote: Russ69
    Tikavkaz sentiments. I have already said: the work is going in two directions - Caucasian youth are being incited to engage in defiant behavior, and the rest of Russian youth are being encouraged to react negatively to this matter. Or someone thinks it's 70

    on the topic with Mirzaev, I believe that Mirzaev was right.
    1. 0
      10 July 2013 07: 30
      I think so too. And his poor guy was bullied because his face was of Caucasian nationality. The kid died because the doctors sent him away and said that everything was fine, but they could have taken a picture and looked at it with a tomograph, that’s how it should be in his mind It was probably that they were not given a referral for a tomography.
  23. EGORKA
    +3
    9 July 2013 19: 59
    If the younger one hadn’t rushed in with a scalpel, they would have hit each other’s faces and gone their separate ways. There used to be a good tradition in Rus' of wall to wall, they fought, let off steam and lived in peace....
  24. +2
    9 July 2013 20: 19
    I wonder how long our Supreme Commander will test the patience of the Russian people?
    1. 0
      9 July 2013 20: 40
      And the Supreme Commander, should he be held accountable for drunken brawls in every regional center?
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  26. EGORKA
    0
    9 July 2013 20: 46
    Quote: Yeraz
    Quote: Spade
    . In your cultural space, where cutting a person is acceptable.
    And not wander around Russia, while trying to instill your own traditions.

    The fact that Russians have forgotten some of their traditions and live under Western influence does not mean that this did not happen in Russia.
    Have you forgotten about duels to the death?? Where people were killed for even more ridiculous insults. Or even before that in Rus', you could calmly go up to curse the whole family and leave unscathed?
    There is no need to say here that in Russia it has always been like it is now. That’s because the Russians had a strong respect for both the Russian soldier and the state. But now, as a state, there is respect, but there is no respect for the ordinary Russian , because if you come up you’ll say motherfucker 5 will pass by 5 more will fight, some verbally, some with their fists.

    You can live without this purely according to the law, but it doesn’t exist either, so there are 2 choices or it will be quickly stopped at everyday life, but it’s too late, national hatred is already on the brink or the state ensures the rule of law.
    But this is not done and as a result we get multiply increasing hatred every day.

    You have mixed up a lot of things, as it seems to me, Russians have a different attitude towards swearing, well, they don’t perceive it in the same way in central Russia as you or in the Caucasus or Russians from the Caucasus, they treat swear words more simply, not to the point of murder, in any case. And the age of duels and murders passed, but you are right that honor must be defended. And yet, are you just using force? this comes out of your post, why tell the motherfucker to a Russian? what is the point, what do you want to prove with this? your strength, your superiority, do you want to be feared or respected? if you were afraid, then this is a dubious method, and respect is achieved by other methods.
    1. +1
      9 July 2013 21: 55
      Quote: EGORKA
      this comes out of your post, why tell the motherfucker to a Russian?



      no why does this word infuriate me at all. I didn’t say what I would say, I wrote that if they come up on the street they will say so.

      Quote: EGORKA
      what is the point, what do you want to prove with this? your strength, your superiority, do you want to be feared or respected?

      you misunderstood my comment.
      I don’t care about being afraid of me. Earning respect is much more difficult than punching someone in the face and bragging that they’re afraid of me, that’s stupid.
  27. EGORKA
    0
    9 July 2013 20: 49
    interesting article

    http://www.fontanka.ru/2013/04/21/032/#1
  28. GEO
    GEO
    0
    9 July 2013 20: 52
    Quote: Tykta
    Was Hitler really German? or not? Are you sure you're German? otherwise one named German and by occupation the Fuhrer was already radically solving troubles with our people... you will be one of the same people, as I understand it - but you are not a fascist, you are enemies of the Russians, the history of world wars confirms this.

    With ours, excuse me, which one? OUR people themselves decided radically with him, and yours are still taking money from the Germans for their corpses. A little gamble, so to speak...
  29. Dinamoff
    -3
    9 July 2013 21: 06
    If it's short.
    According to relatives from Ivanteevka.
    There was no conflict. And the Chechens didn’t bother anyone.
    There are places where there is no need to go (a real boy to a gay bar, a fascist to the Victory Parade, etc.)
    A man with Chechen friends went to a cafe, a place where Chechens live.
    There was trouble, there was murder.
    And now someone needs to create a scandal for the whole world.
    And about the Tatars in the Saratov region - damn, HAVE YOU VISITED THE TATAR IN THE SARATOV REGION?
    (Tatar guy)
    P.S. What have you (young guys) done besides traveling to the Caucasus?
    Perhaps the Internet is your outlet.
  30. EGORKA
    0
    9 July 2013 21: 24
    Quote: Dinamoff
    If it's short.
    According to relatives from Ivanteevka.
    There was no conflict. And the Chechens didn’t bother anyone.
    There are places where there is no need to go (a real boy to a gay bar, a fascist to the Victory Parade, etc.)
    A man with Chechen friends went to a cafe, a place where Chechens live.
    There was trouble, there was murder.
    And now someone needs to create a scandal for the whole world.
    And about the Tatars in the Saratov region - damn, HAVE YOU VISITED THE TATAR IN THE SARATOV REGION?
    (Tatar guy)
    P.S. What have you (young guys) done besides traveling to the Caucasus?
    Perhaps the Internet is your outlet.

    nothing, I don't understand
  31. Dinamoff
    0
    9 July 2013 21: 29
    I'm happy for you.
    Don’t understand, but are you ready to unsubscribe on the forum?
    No attacks. What didn’t you understand?
    1. Yarbay
      +1
      9 July 2013 22: 02
      Quote: Dinamoff
      No attacks. What didn’t you understand?

      Where is Ivanteevka???
      and what kind of friction can there be between a 16-year-old boy and a twenty-year-old paratrooper??
  32. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 21: 30
    In short, everyone needs to live together, as Leopold the cat bequeathed) otherwise everyone will feel bad.
  33. 0
    9 July 2013 21: 31
    Here are the Caucasians - what if you are not reasonable, stupid people - if you push the Russians to the limit with your actions, then yours will be cut out - they will simply be crushed en masse. Is your sense of self-preservation not developed? Or do you seriously think Russians are weaklings? In vain. Patience is not unlimited. And the authorities are already quite tired of you with your evasions.
    PS In my entire rather short life I have known only ONE worthy Caucasian, and then in the SA - (Sergeant Islamov is a Chechen - I hope he is alive and well) - alas, I have not met others. The rest were cowardly gopniks - a little behind the pen and the crowd. And these are called men - ugh!
    1. smersh70
      +3
      9 July 2013 22: 41
      Quote: YuriWhite
      Here are the Caucasians - are you not reasonable, stupid people?



      friend! look at the name of the deceased.... after all, he is not Russian... Why should you be fuming... and one Russian killed his friend... and he will answer according to the law... and watch the speech of the father of the deceased on the channel Russia 24.....
      1. Yarbay
        0
        9 July 2013 23: 05
        Quote: smersh70
        ...and watch the speech of the father of the deceased on the Russia-24 channel.....

        and what does the father say??
        1. smersh70
          +1
          9 July 2013 23: 15
          Quote: Yarbay
          and what does the father say??



          a father named Shamil said that most of all he blamed the doctors... the chief surgeon was not there. the nurse REFUSED to help. that Ruslan was brought to the hospital by his Caucasian friends. who then turned the killer over to the police..... then at a meeting with governor..everyone left..there were about 30 people left.relatives and friends..the rest laughed..dispersed.they weren’t interested in help.and everything else....here
      2. anarch
        0
        13 July 2013 03: 27
        Quote: smersh70
        friend! look at the name of the deceased.... after all, he is not Russian... Why should you be fuming... and one Russian killed his friend... and he will answer according to the law... and watch the speech of the father of the deceased on the channel Russia 24.....

        Ruslan - Tatar on his father's side,
        according to my mother - Russian,
        By faith - Orthodox.
        She also answered a question that has long worried netizens: is Ruslan Tatar or Russian?

        - Ruslan was baptized and buried in the Orthodox cemetery. His father, my first husband, Shamil Marzhanov, was a Tatar,” Svetlana said.

        Ruslan actually fed the family: Svetlana takes care of her husband Vladimir, a disabled person of the first group. They live on a pension of 8200 rubles. Ruslan lived in Moscow almost all the time and worked. He returned to the region for a session - Ruslan is studying in the correspondence department of one of the Saratov universities.
        http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1483273
  34. EGORKA
    +2
    9 July 2013 21: 37
    Quote: Dinamoff
    I'm happy for you.
    Don’t understand, but are you ready to unsubscribe on the forum?
    No attacks. What didn’t you understand?

    abruptly and incoherently, who is anyone's friend, what does the Tatars have to do with it, what kind of places are you not supposed to go to, were the Chechens his friends? etc. piled up, you can’t make it out
  35. Dinamoff
    -1
    9 July 2013 22: 02
    They killed a Tatar. He was a citizen of the Russian Federation.
    But if you mix up the nationality, the Tatars will treat the Chechens like a tortoise for revenge and help (and here we have no problems at all).
    He was there with the Chechens; they themselves (the Chechens) handed over the killer.
    And he definitely filled up the places.
    I don’t sit on a bench with alcoholics, and I didn’t die in drunken fights between drunks. But he went to the habitats of the Chechens. And the result is obvious.
    This does not mean that the Chechens are right. It means that this particular guy is not there and was not there at the wrong time.
    And by law it is necessary.
    Tough, and according to the law.
    1. MG42
      +3
      10 July 2013 01: 10
      Quote: Dinamoff
      .And he went to the habitats of the Chechens. And the result is obvious.
      This does not mean that the Chechens are right. It means that this particular guy is not there and was not there at the wrong time.

      Actually, this is a town in the Saratov region, and Chechnya... winked
  36. EGORKA
    0
    9 July 2013 22: 20
    Quote: Dinamoff
    They killed a Tatar. He was a citizen of the Russian Federation.
    But if you mix up the nationality, the Tatars will treat the Chechens like a tortoise for revenge and help (and here we have no problems at all).
    He was there with the Chechens; they themselves (the Chechens) handed over the killer.
    And he definitely filled up the places.
    I don’t sit on a bench with alcoholics, and I didn’t die in drunken fights between drunks. But he went to the habitats of the Chechens. And the result is obvious.
    This does not mean that the Chechens are right. It means that this particular guy is not there and was not there at the wrong time.
    And by law it is necessary.
    Tough, and according to the law.

    Now your version is more understandable, it is different from the previous ones, all that remains is to wait for the final one, which I agree with according to the law, but there should not be any special habitats for Chechens, except in Chechnya and their private property - houses. Thanks for the clarification.
  37. +2
    9 July 2013 22: 46
    we need to drive away the Kremlin's forgiveness Putka! he gave Budanov to be torn to pieces by a beast
    1. -2
      9 July 2013 23: 25
      Yeah, the Kremlin probably should have protected Budanov? Although what can I tell you, if for you Budanov is a hero, then the arguments of reason are powerless here...
    2. -1
      9 July 2013 23: 27
      Is Budanov a hero, of course? If a country has such heroes, then the country is hopelessly sick
      1. Yarbay
        +1
        10 July 2013 14: 44
        Quote: rus9875
        Is Budanov a hero, of course? If a country has such heroes, then the country is hopelessly sick

        Gold words!!!!!!!
        1. RPD
          +1
          10 July 2013 14: 47
          Some people have all sorts of Basayevs as heroes. and it’s not for them to tell us
          1. Yarbay
            0
            11 July 2013 01: 44
            Quote: RPD
            Some people have all sorts of Basayevs as heroes. and it’s not for them to tell us

            If you say this to me, then I don’t consider Basayev a hero!!
  38. waisson
    +3
    9 July 2013 22: 58
    The Shelkovsky district police department stores materials from a case from 2011, when Ali Nazarov was caught stealing a car radio. The repentant guy was released. But in the same year, the guy, along with several comrades, was caught committing housebreaking - Ali climbed into the house of wealthy neighbors.

    Nazirov received a suspended sentence of one year, and after the end of this term he went to live with relatives in the Saratov region.
  39. +2
    9 July 2013 22: 59
    Stop swearing, it’s better to look at the address of the guy’s father. Someone is actually making politics out of family grief.
  40. waisson
    0
    9 July 2013 23: 18
    Nikolay VARSEGOV (21:50)
    “The column stretched for two kilometers and broke through the police cordon” Comments: 3
    KP special correspondent Nikolai Varsegov from Pugachev: “The head of the administration never came out to the people”
    Komsomolskaya Pravda columnist Nikolai Varsegov reports from Pugachev
    On Tuesday, our columnist Nikolai Varsegov was broadcasting the latest news from Pugachev on Radio KP at the moment when the crowd went towards the federal highway and broke through two police cordons. Here is a transcript of his radio report.
    - A fight just happened! Several people were tied up and taken away. A huge crowd is walking, moving, pushing away the police, and in front there is also some huge crowd in the distance, seemingly civilians. And how this will end is still unknown.
    The people left the administration building; they waited an hour and a half for the head of the administration, Mr. Sidorov, to speak to the people. But since for some reason he did not come out, this excited the crowd even more. And so they, despite the prohibitions and threats from police bullhorns, still moved to block the federal highway. So I see a civilian crowd with Russian flags ahead. The police have taken some kind of a break for now and are trying not to interfere, but are following along in huge columns.
    Here there are mostly young people aged 16 - 18, 20 - 30 years old. There are many men in their forties, shouting various unpleasant, to put it mildly, words at the police. Oncoming cars stand aside, no one touches them. How many people is difficult to count.
    The column stretched for about two kilometers. I hear screams... Two hundred police officers are pulling on their helmets, taking out their batons... The police are galloping past me - there are just a lot of them now... And now, as I feel, there is going to be a big fight
  41. soldier's grandson
    +1
    10 July 2013 00: 04
    introduce the death penalty for chocks in Russia
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. RPD
      +3
      10 July 2013 00: 18
      for all the scumbags
  42. RPD
    0
    10 July 2013 00: 07
    http://www.compromat.ru/page_32088.htm
  43. +1
    10 July 2013 00: 15
    It looks like people are boiling. and the RUSSIAN REVOLT is not far away!!!
  44. soldier's grandson
    0
    10 July 2013 00: 37
    Quote: Yarbay
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Russian people don't carry a knife

    alas, there I gave a fresh note!!
    Now I'll give you another one!!



    Today I read the news on the Komsomol: http://www.kp.ru/daily/26096.5/2995394/
    The article talks about how three residents of Shchelkovo and Balashikha came to visit an unemployed Muscovite. The young men drank alcohol and decided to compete in cruelty. They attacked an unemployed man with knives and dismembered him into pieces.
    A Muscovite named Nikita cut off the man’s head, nose and scalp.
    After this, the young men played football with the dead man’s head. Then they simply kicked the skull until it ended up in the trash can. Now investigators cannot find him - he was taken somewhere by a garbage truck.

    What is most interesting, they do not write about it anywhere else!
    Neither Moscow24, nor NTV, nor anyone else. But the day before yesterday all these media outlets quickly wrote, incl. Komsomol member, how “a Caucasian shot a biker in the head.” The question arises: why write the word Caucasian? Does anyone write about murderers that a Slav or a Russian killed so and so?
    http://ststalin.livejournal.com/198546.html


    Well, of course you say that this is not a Russian person)))
    Why not evict his family from Moscow??

    bad and our own, we have enough of our own. And here, if the people themselves have already risen, what objections can there be? From your comments it is clear that you are entirely on the side of the Chechens and are arguing against the Russians by imposing the laws of the mountains. I once heard from one Caucasian that those who came to Russia are mostly bloodlines hiding from the revenge of their relatives and here they feel with impunity, so why not punish him also according to the law of the mountains? You are silent about this, but only say that the laws of visitors must be respected, Yes, I gave a shit about them, I live by my own laws
    1. Yarbay
      +2
      11 July 2013 00: 56
      Quote: Soldier's grandson
      I once heard from one Caucasian that those who came to Russia are mainly bloodline people hiding from the revenge of their relatives and here they feel with impunity, so why not punish him also according to the law of the mountains?

      I mean, do you punish your criminals according to the law of the mountains?)))))))
      Let's show you how you do it, we'll connect!!
      The criminal should be in jail!
      A person must have self-esteem!!
  45. Xnumx kopeek
    +1
    10 July 2013 07: 26
    the deceased is a Tatar./this is for those who are nationally concerned/
  46. EGORKA
    +3
    10 July 2013 09: 10
    Quote: 20 kopeek
    the deceased is a Tatar./this is for those who are nationally concerned/


    the fact that he was a Tatar was known from the very beginning, I looked through the Internet, the problem is deeper than “a Chechen killed a Russian”, the problem is that many visitors from the Caucasus do not feel afraid and very often grab a knife, because they do not respect local customs and local residents, impose their own and behave extremely defiantly, with the full connivance of local authorities and the police, who often take money from them, pay them off, or simply don’t want to get involved once again, but if the locals themselves come out and try to restore the status quo, then the police are there here, it’s very annoying. Dissatisfaction with all this accumulates more and more every year, the people are tired of this one-sided tolerance and a spark is enough to ignite a flame. This is the problem that the authorities need to solve immediately, when the authorities and local politicians do not notice the aspirations of the common people, they begin to look support and sympathy and guess who he finds them among? among the nationalists, and this is a very dangerous path. The people are furious and stop separating the bandits from the Caucasus with normal citizens from the Caucasus who live and work in Russia without problems around them. After the collapse of the USSR in the Caucasus, there was a rollback in development, education, and this is especially true in Chechnya, that’s why a lot of rednecks go to central Russia without brakes (despite the fact that the Russians have enough of their own), who are also nationalistic-minded and that creates part of the problem, another part is created by the authorities and the police who really don’t want to solve the problem of complying with the law and the last part of the problem is created by nationalistic-minded locals, all this together leads to events like in Pugachev, impunity and the softness of the authorities are yet another argument destabilizing the situation.
    If the authorities do not understand that this problem needs to be solved, but only put out the fire in Pugachev, then this is a huge mistake! It will smolder like peat and flare up again when similar fires break out in other cities of Russia.
    1. anarch
      0
      13 July 2013 01: 36
      Quote: EGORKA
      the fact that he was a Tatar was known from the very beginning

      Listen to an interview with Ruslan's mother. He was not a Tatar. He was not a Muslim.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EiycClhxFDo
  47. ed65b
    -1
    10 July 2013 09: 51
    I’m watching TV, the governor is talking, he says, Russian cops are persecuting their people, the Czechs have lived and still live, I didn’t notice any fear on their faces. The attitude of the authorities, as I understand it, is that they will disperse in a rowdy manner. No, let’s go our separate ways. Now they’ll screw in the particularly talkative ones and the situation will settle down. The people are rioting and the LADIES are still thinking about how the RAS can gut Gazprom in the head of the GDP. The Ministry of Internal Affairs is catching gastricians in Moscow. In general, everyone doesn't give a fuck. Sadly. And the tales that a 16-year-old boy stabbed to death a paratrooper who served in the army are untenable. Only in a crowd and from behind. But there is his confession and everything will end there. They will give the minimum or conditional, the parents will contribute money.
  48. EGORKA
    0
    10 July 2013 10: 23
    If they don’t start fixing the problem, then the fire will get worse.
  49. EGORKA
    0
    10 July 2013 10: 41
    I still hope for people on both sides of the conflict, and especially visitors, that reason will prevail and this will not happen again...
  50. AMT
    AMT
    0
    10 July 2013 11: 04
    The situation is certainly terrible and in many ways indicative. I believe that the authorities should react harshly, and the people should not be fooled by provocations. In any case, I don’t understand what the sacred meaning is for a crowd of people to block the highway in this situation.

    Well, based on this discussion, some commentators seem to have come here straight from Navalny’s blog. Reading their “thoughts” is disgusting.
  51. Khan
    +1
    10 July 2013 11: 34
    It’s not clear how a 16-year-old teenager kills an Airborne Forces fighter who served in a deployment in hand-to-hand combat, there’s something fishy here.
    1. 0
      10 July 2013 12: 08
      They already wrote... there was a fight with the “animal’s” older brother, and when he began to play, the younger one struck several blows from behind....
      1. Khan
        0
        10 July 2013 12: 17
        The Chechen will sit, taking into account the resonance to the fullest extent, in the covered one, he is from the peak, and then, taking into account his character, they will break off or lower him.
        1. RPD
          +1
          10 July 2013 14: 18
          the animal will sit and come out. but the guy is not there. and the animal in its homeland will go to the authorities and even the local forums will not say anything to it
          1. Khan
            0
            10 July 2013 15: 19
            Judging by the data, his relatives removed him from Chechnya; he had a suspended sentence for theft and robbery; now there will be aggravating circumstances. There will be no parole and he will sit not in Chechnya, but at the place where the crime was committed, but in the zone anything can happen.
            1. RPD
              +1
              10 July 2013 15: 29
              Well, yes, it’s a shame to spoil yourself, let him go to Russia there, he’ll return as a hero
  52. EGORKA
    +1
    10 July 2013 14: 22
    The authorities, as always, are leading away from the main topic, their dear scoundrels, as if they don’t hear the people, it’s not just about this particular murder, but along with the problem of migrants, it’s also about the corruption of officials and the police, because with their connivance, migrants begin to feel impunity and their superiority , officials take bribes from the national diasporas, they buy back what is most important and what the people are indignant about. The bureaucrats and the police feel like a separate class to which everything is allowed.

    http://www.rosbalt.ru/federal/2013/07/09/1150699.html
    1. RPD
      0
      10 July 2013 14: 32
      you are taking away from the specific problem of specific people
  53. 0
    10 July 2013 17: 17
    Young Chechens who could provoke a further escalation of the conflict were taken from the city of Pugachev. The Chechen diaspora accepted this decision.

    The city was left by that part of the Chechen youth that representatives of the diaspora considered “poorly managed and radical.” RSN reports this with reference to the Presidential Envoy to the Volga Federal District Mikhail Babich.

    According to M. Babich, inspections by the Federal Migration Service are currently underway in the city. Representatives of the department are checking whether visitors are in Pugachev legally.

    Earlier it was reported that a temporary ban on the sale of alcohol was introduced in Pugachev. According to preliminary data, it will be valid until July 19.
  54. waisson
    0
    10 July 2013 20: 07
    SAINT PETERSBURG, July 9. Nationalist Nikolai Bondarik intends to gather a “people's gathering” in Pugachev, where unrest based on ethnic contradictions continues. The action will take place on July 11-13, Bondarik himself told a Rosbalt correspondent. However, other representatives of the St. Petersburg opposition opposed such a “forced march” of the nationalists.

    “I have already bought tickets, I will go by train with several comrades. The rest will go by car. Residents of Moscow and Saratov have already expressed a desire to take part in the action,” he said.

    According to Bondarik, about 500 people should arrive in the city. They intend to divide Pugachev’s territory into squares, go door to door and urge the population to take to the streets.

    “People are afraid that there will be a massacre. But I call for a peaceful gathering. We will demand the resignation of the mayor and the chief of police. In the USA, for example, in this case the sheriff would be kicked out like a mangy dog. We will also demand that the governor declare a state of emergency , then it will be possible to evacuate the Chechens for their own safety,” Bondarik said.

    Let us note that the opposition does not approve of Bondarik’s idea. Thus, Boris Vishnevsky, a member of the St. Petersburg Legislative Assembly from the Yabloko faction, fears that everything will end in new clashes. “As for slogans like “cleansing Russian land,” as far as I understand, these Chechens are Russian citizens and, according to the Constitution, enjoy the same rights as others. If there are violations of the law, they must be stopped and the perpetrators punished. But any calls for someone else’s then deportations, in my opinion, are illegal and unconstitutional,” he says.

    Vishnevsky recalled that “expulsion” had already happened in Russian history under Stalin and “concerned not only Chechens.”

    Regarding the initiator of the gathering, Nikolai Bondarik, Vishnevsky noted that “there is nothing to add to his reputation. It would be strange if he did not end up there.” “Situations of this kind arise where the authorities are unable to maintain public order. Nationalists of all stripes take advantage of them. This can only be prevented by showing people that public order in the city will be ensured and criminals will be punished, regardless of what nation they belong to,” - he summed up.

    Opp

    “I cannot take Bondarik’s initiative seriously. I have big complaints about Nikolai’s actions. He recently almost led activists who almost killed people on the Champs of Mars. I think in the case of Bondarik this is more self-PR. Although Pugachev’s problem is certainly , spicy,” said Pivovarov.

    When asked how the opposition could help resolve the acute situation in Pugachev, the oppositionist replied that maximum publicity, legal support for people, and possibly the arrival of activists there were needed. “If less odious people than Bondarik came there, it could help local residents. It is necessary to negotiate with the authorities, formulate demands more strictly, and attract the attention of the federal media,” he added.

    Let us recall that, according to investigators, 20-year-old recently demobilized paratrooper Ruslan Marzhanov was killed with several blows of a scalpel by a 16-year-old native of Chechnya near the Zolotaya Bochka bar. After this, interethnic tension grew in the city. On July 7, at least 200 citizens gathered in the central square. After the rally, the protesters went to the northwestern microdistrict of the regional center, where natives of Chechnya live compactly, and staged a pogrom. Several hundred people took part in the ensuing fight.

    On Monday, 100-150 people blocked the Samara-Volgograd highway, temporarily blocking traffic. On July 8, city residents demanded the eviction of the Chechens, threatening that if the authorities did not agree, the city residents would do it themselves.
  55. Dinamoff
    -1
    10 July 2013 20: 07
    Ivanteevka - 60 km. good road from Pugachev (there was a question).
    The Chechens themselves called an ambulance, the Chechens themselves handed the killer over to the police, the Chechens themselves took out their young guys, Kadyrov himself apologized. With 3 murders in 3 years.
    And there was a governor. And there was riot police.
    And they want to evict the entire diaspora.
    P.S. Here’s the difference between the murder of a Tatar and a Russian in the Saratov region.
    As I wrote earlier.
  56. waisson
    0
    10 July 2013 20: 09
    “The Other Russia” announces the detention of activists traveling to Pugachev
    10.07.2013, 19: 10 | "Newspaper.Ru"
    “Other Russia” activist Alexander Zaitsev and nationalist Ekaterina Makarova, who were heading to the city of Pugachev, were detained as they left Nizhny Novgorod, the acting official told Interfax. the head of the Nizhny Novgorod branch of the movement, Yuri Staroverov.

    “At approximately 17 p.m., Alexander Zaitsev and his friend Ekaterina Makarova were detained. On Larin Street they were traveling in a passenger bus, it was stopped by employees of the Center for Combating Extremism (CCE) and the activists were taken away in an unknown direction,” Staroverov said.

    According to him, the activists were going “to support the popular protest in Pugachev.”

    Mass unrest in the city of Pugachev, Saratov region, was caused by the murder of a 16-year-old former paratrooper by a 20-year-old Chechen. Residents of the city blocked the federal highway and demanded that the authorities honestly investigate the case.
  57. waisson
    0
    10 July 2013 20: 15
    As a Vzglyad-info correspondent reports from the scene, the document specifies the following requirements:

    - adopt a federal or regional law on the introduction of residence registration to control migration flows within the country;

    - empower municipal executive and legislative authorities to refuse registration to citizens;

    - legislatively define the concept of “gathering of citizens” and give it the right of a majority vote to make decisions on depriving the registration of citizens who systematically violate the law or completely neglect it;

    - create supervisory boards for all law enforcement agencies that could monitor them;

    - create the same councils under the executive authorities to monitor budget execution;

    - oblige cafe owners to equip their establishments with a video surveillance system and organize their security.
  58. waisson
    0
    11 July 2013 00: 47
    and it was similar and there is censorship here
  59. waisson
    0
    11 July 2013 00: 48
    looks like no I was wrong
  60. waisson
    0
    11 July 2013 00: 49
    or here's something else you can add
  61. waisson
    0
    11 July 2013 00: 51
    this photo too
  62. waisson
    0
    11 July 2013 00: 52
    and probably the last
  63. anarch
    0
    13 July 2013 01: 27
    At least TWO people killed the guy.
    One held, the second struck with a scalpel.
    Watch the interview with the mother of the murdered man.
    It is not a fact that the child was dragged in in order to mitigate the punishment.