Pugachev revolt: citizens angry with murder blocked the road

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In the city of Pugachev, Saratov region, hundreds of local residents held an unauthorized rally outside the administration building. People demanded that people from the North Caucasus be evicted from the city. And this is not the first such action.

According to ITAR-TASS, on the eve of the inhabitants of Pugachev gathered for a spontaneous gathering, which almost ended in a mass brawl. It was attended by about a hundred people.

Protests in the city began after the murder of an 20-year-old local resident. On the night of July 6, a young man was stabbed in the stomach and died in intensive care. Soon, the suspect in the murder was detained: he turned out to be a minor youth 1996, born.

The incident occurred near the cafe "Golden Barrel". According to the Investigation Department of the RF IC in the Saratov region, a quarrel broke out between the victim and the accused, which turned into a fight. “As a result of the conflict, a minor with a scalpel inflicted multiple stab-cuts to the young man’s wounds of the chest. The injured died in a medical facility,” the department explained. The local media immediately clarified that the suspect was from Chechnya. According to some reports, the fight happened because of the girl.

In fact, the murders opened a case on the 1 part of the 105 article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The investigation petitioned for the arrest of the minor, and the court granted the petition. The defendant will be detained for at least two months.

According to the local MIA, on the evening of July 7, about 200 people gathered at the Pugachev Square on Cathedral - the relatives of the deceased came to clarify the relationship with the detainee's relatives. “For the purpose of protecting public order, Pugachevsky’s personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia were involved. The head of the Pugachevsky municipal district and the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, Pugachevsky, addressed the audience. After the preventive conversation, the people dispersed. There were no violations of public order or illegal actions. - informed the police. The guards added that the situation in the city is under control.

The vice-governor of the region, Denis Fadeyev, also arrived at the scene of the incident in order to understand the events. "Those responsible for what happened will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. No one will escape responsibility," he promised. Representatives of the region’s national communities also came from Saratov. At an emergency meeting in the city administration, they expressed condolences to the relatives of the deceased.

Pugachev received conflicting data. Journalist Anton Naumlyuk, who is on the scene, shares operational information in his Twitter account. According to him, on July 8 nearly a thousand people gathered near the city administration. They threw bottles into the administration building and chanted: "Evict!" Then part of the protesters gathered "to go to the pogrom of the Chechens." Participants of the street protest went to the track "Saratov-Samara". The policemen blocked the road, however, "the crowd made their way through the barbed wire and walked around the field," the first clashes with law enforcement officers began. The riot police arrived at the scene.

According to the journalist, the city authorities offered citizens to create an initiative group to somehow solve the problem. However, the locals seem to be radical. According to news agencies, the initiative group was created, and it has already held a meeting in a local house of culture.

Locals, meanwhile, continue to complain. One of them told "Russian service News":" Every year, three years in a row, people of Caucasian nationality kill young people in this cafe. They are very aggressive. People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished. "

As the head of the press service of the Saratov regional branch of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Lyudmila Rossenko, said in her Twitter account, the authorities are calling on residents to disperse. But people do not disagree, some are thinking about spending the night on the street. However, according to her, they managed to free the federal highway. "The head arrived (administration - editorial note), led people off the highway, and the police blocked the approaches. The automobile communication was restored," Rossenko said.

In some mass media and blogs, information appeared about the introduction of military equipment in Pugachev. Journalist Anton Naumlyuk does not confirm this information: "Military equipment is not here. Riot police do not exit the car."

The governor of the Saratov region Valery Radaev expressed his condolences to the relatives of the murdered young man. He also urged the inhabitants of Pugachev to remain calm. “I express my sincere condolences to the family, relatives and friends of the deceased Ruslan Marzhanov. It is terrible and bitter when the young men die in peacetime. And the fact that this tragedy caused a resonance among the population of Pugachev, from Ruslan’s compatriots, I can understand and share their pain”, - his statement is given on the official website of the government of the Saratov region.

The head of the region called on the townspeople "not to give vent to emotions and feelings." “We know the irreversible consequences of lynching, escalation of the situation, and speculation on a national theme. Historical the experience of our multinational country does not allow us to forget about this and calm down, "said Radaev.
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    1. +113
      9 July 2013 08: 17
      Well done, I absolutely agree, the authorities are already crossing all borders covering these freaks, and in any situation the Russians remain extreme.
      1. +87
        9 July 2013 08: 30
        If the power covers the Chechen bandits, then the Chechen bandits rob the people and give part of the loot to the authorities. Otherwise, what is the use of power to cover bandits and murderers.
        1. +32
          9 July 2013 10: 19
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          If power covers Chechen bandits ...

          Yes, you are a nationalist, my friend! Ask any official and they will lead you (for the umpteenth time) an old disc that there is no national motive here and, in fact, a purely everyday conflict. And in general, forget the word "Russian", "Caucasian" ... All of us now "daragie, panim, shine"

          But seriously, it's a shame that before the next election a bunch of pro-Kremlin trolls will fly here, they will tell how everything is fine in our country, confirming your words with links from pro-government sites. And everything will remain as it was ... Get used to it?
          1. +41
            9 July 2013 10: 52
            "-Somehow not tolerant! Bad nationalities do not exist! Russians (Tatars, ...) themselves kill a lot of people! Russians, so those in general ..., without a tribe, drink godlessly, idlers. Russian women - ... ! ..., ... "
            =
            These are the main slogans of "kosher" cosmopolitans like "antifa". Only these "antifa" themselves have long ago saddled the "Russian world" with words - symbols: a Nazi, a nationalist, a fascist. They themselves are those "abozhiurs", under which, the disintegrants of the nation, the "worms" (ethnic communities with the ideology of racial superiority, social superiority) bring the "soil" (society) to the pre-Libyan one. pre-Syrian, Yugoslavian scenarios
            1. yuri p
              +4
              9 July 2013 12: 24
              I COMPLETELY AGREE.
              1. Karabu
                +4
                9 July 2013 18: 27
                Quote: Nikolai S.
                If the power covers the Chechen bandits, then the Chechen bandits rob the people and give part of the loot to the authorities

                it means only that the authorities are afraid of them. they do not share the loot, on the contrary. the Kremlin gives them as much as they require in subsidies, various deductions, and dubious federal programs. The pacification of Chechnya resulted in the payment of an annual tribute of $ 2 billion from the Russian budget to a best friend - comrade Kadyrov.
            2. +15
              9 July 2013 14: 18
              I support the people in their just indignation. After such performances (Kondopoga, Pugachev) the "natives" immediately become "more tolerant" and calmer.


              "Brothers in a friendly crowd
              Leaving for a walk,
              Gray ducks shoot,
              Right hand to amuse,
              Sorochina in the field to hurry,
              Ile head off with wide shoulders
              At the Tatar cut off
              Or etch from the forest
              Pyatigorsk Circassian. "
              A.S. Pushkin
              Intolerant, however, but to the heart.
              1. shpuntik
                -2
                9 July 2013 18: 21
                zart_arn Today, 14:18 ↑
                A.S. Pushkin
                Intolerant, however, but to the heart.


                Liter can of gasoline,
                Modestly in a string bag.
                Tied to the lid, a hunting match,
                Quiet like a blade of grass, waiting for it to fly.
                With gloomy thoughts, with a black bag,
                I come to the crowd ...
                And I don’t know: where to throw her, dear?
                After all, relatives, police, and kind faces are everywhere.
                1. shpuntik
                  +9
                  9 July 2013 19: 35

                  shpuntik Today, 18:21 ↑
                  Liter can of gasoline,
                  Modestly in a string bag.

                  I apologize, well, I’m not Lermontov :-)


                  Mikhail Lermontov

                  Anthology of Russian poetry COSSACK LULLABY
                  Sleep, my beautiful baby,
                  Baiushki bye.
                  Quietly looks clear month
                  In your cradle
                  I will tell fairy tales
                  I’ll sing a song;
                  Well you doze, closing your eyes,
                  Baiushki bye.

                  Terek flows over the stones
                  The muddy ramparts;
                  Angry Chechen crawling to the shore
                  Sharpen his dagger;
                  But your father is an old warrior,
                  Hardened in battle:
                  Sleep baby, be calm
                  Baiushki bye.

                  You will find out yourself, there will be time,
                  Swearing;
                  Feel free to put your foot in the stirrup
                  And take a gun.
                  I'm a battle saddle
                  I will send silk ...
                  Sleep, my dear child
                  Baiushki bye.

                  Bogatyr you will mean
                  And the Cossack soul.
                  I'll walk you out -
                  You wave your hand ...
                  How many bitter tears sneak
                  I will shed that night! ..
                  Sleep my angel, softly, sweetly,
                  Baiushki bye.

                  I will longing to languish,
                  It is inconsolable to wait;
                  I’m going to pray all day
                  Fortune telling at night;
                  Gonna think you're bored
                  You're in a strange land ...
                  Sleep until you know the worries
                  Baiushki bye.

                  I'll give you the road
                  Scapular Saint:
                  You him, praying to god
                  Set in front of you;
                  Yes, getting ready for battle is dangerous,
                  Remember your mother ...
                  Sleep, my beautiful baby,
                  Baiushki bye.
            3. -7
              9 July 2013 19: 10
              Chechen kills Russian drunk - Jews are guilty as always. So many years have passed, nothing has changed.

              Ancient, with such a beard and a bunch of variations of a joke:

              An old [Armenian, Gypsy, Tatar, person of a different nationality - write _________________], the patriarch of the family dies. Naturally, all relatives crowded around the bed to hear the last wisdom. And so he utters with the last of his strength: "Take care of the Jews! When they are completely gone, they will take over you."
              1. Yarbay
                +3
                10 July 2013 17: 06
                Quote: Nagan
                Chechen kills Russian drunk - Jews are guilty as always. So many years have passed, nothing has changed.

                After all, they did not write about the conflict with the biker that a certain Ovanesov, who shot the biker in the head, was from the Nashi movement. No, they wrote that he was a Caucasian! Moreover, later it became known that he was Georgiy Ovakimov. And this is no longer a Caucasian, but a Jew! Ovakims are not non-Jews! Nobody writes about this anymore, the duck was allowed yesterday about the Caucasian, that's all!

                The same Jewish media do not write that a Jewish banker, or a banker of Jewish nationality Borodin, stole money from the Bank of Moscow. They just write that Borodin stole money.
                http://ststalin.livejournal.com/198546.html
            4. +1
              10 July 2013 16: 58
              It's just that this clearly reveals the CIA doctrine, adopted in 1975, the main ones were highlighted - work with young people and pitting people on ethnic grounds ....
          2. +29
            9 July 2013 13: 21
            but call me a fascist - I am for more radical schemes for resolving this issue in the style of Grandfather Stalin
            1. Tykta
              -17
              9 July 2013 13: 38
              Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and by occupation, the Fuhrer has already radically solved troubles with our people ... you will be the same as I understand it - but you are not a fascist, you are enemies of the Russians, the history of world wars confirms this.
              1. Misantrop
                +11
                9 July 2013 15: 39
                Quote: Tykta
                Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and the occupation of the Fuhrer

                And what is more important here, was he German or in what way did he "solve problems"? They beat me in the face, not my passport. If he behaves like a monkey with a grenade, then what's the difference what exactly he drew for a bribe in the questionnaire?
                Trying to put together a gang based on ethnicity, put itself above the law - kick in the ass and let it fly into its nest in front of its own squeal
                1. Tykta
                  +2
                  9 July 2013 16: 24
                  I have a slightly different vision of the history of MY country, as they say, who remembers the old - that eye is out, and whoever forgets the old will both. The Germans in 2 wars rather thinned our nation and consider the Germans a nation friendly to the peoples of Russia, at least hypocritically. after that war the Germans should have been wiped off the face of the earth as a nation, so that their spirit would not remain
                  1. Misantrop
                    +5
                    9 July 2013 17: 11
                    Quote: Tykta
                    The Germans in 2 wars pretty much thinned our nation
                    And between the wars they helped a lot. Here is IMHO that they can’t be taken away from them, they did it all honestly (that they were friends, that they fought). There was no this foul Anglo-Saxon hypocrisy, when the assurances of friendship spread in the face, and immediately they spoiled behind him. So if you are friends with anyone in Europe, then only with the Germans IMHO. All the rest will be sold without hesitation at the slightest occasion. Except that the Serbs are still good in this respect (by no means all of the Yugoslavs in a row)
                    1. Tykta
                      -1
                      9 July 2013 17: 28
                      in these intervals, they conducted active intelligence activities in order to inflict maximum damage ... you have some illusory and pacifist views on the relationship of countries that fought against each other. Can a pacifist remind you of the term "Vernihtungskrieg" and to which people it was applied? to our peoples, to the peoples inhabiting the USSR, and there is no need here to engage in eyewash about the Anglo-Saxon maneuvers, we have no friends in Europe, yes, the Serbs are brothers, but they are brothers to the Russians, and not the people, history ordered that the Russians were always together with Serbs and have never been on the same side of the barricades with the Germans. do not forget about it, do not forget that the Germans serve in the NATO troops and I don’t know that they would be friends with ours at least once ... under Napoleon or what? So they betrayed and eventually went over to the side of Bonaparte, that's bad luck, not a single case in history that the Germans fought on the side of the Russians, always only against ...
                      1. Cossack23
                        0
                        10 July 2013 07: 28
                        we have the best factories built by the Germans, the best specialists honestly train the Germans too, and how many colonies in Russia were German, and who are the best Germans in Germany? - Russian Germans.
                        And we have been fighting with them for a very long time 800-900 years, the Germans already have Russian facial features, and ours?
                        as there was bedlam so ..... UNBEATABLE ORTHODOX
                    2. Dober
                      0
                      10 July 2013 01: 57
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      So if you are friends with anyone in Europe, then only with the Germans

                      How well said!
                      And most importantly - absolutely for sure!
                2. Tykta
                  -4
                  9 July 2013 17: 16
                  Quote: Misantrop

                  They beat him in the face, not the passport ... a monkey with a grenade ... put together a gang according to ethnicity ... put yourself above the law ... kick in the ass ... flies into its nest ...

                  in 4 sentences 6 punched stamps, isn't it a bit much dear? or do you have a highly imaginative formation to form images already in the hypothalamus?
                  1. Misantrop
                    +5
                    9 July 2013 18: 07
                    Quote: Tykta
                    in 4 sentences 6 punched stamps
                    These cliches are "hackneyed" only because they really reflect the essence of what is happening. That is why people use them. Well, about stamps, for example this one:
                    Quote: Tykta
                    Germans serve in NATO troops and I don’t know what they would be friends with at least once ...
                    Not aware that states are not declaring war? And VERY many heroes of Russia have German roots. Again, most of the imported machines in Russian factories are of German origin. Despite all the lend-leases and other British nishtyaki. Not all of them were received from reparations, most even before the start of the Second World War, the USSR got honestly sold and installed.
                    Well, about the one who fought and where, here's a recent one. Father and mother, ethnic Germans, left for Germany in the 90s. My son refused to move, stayed with his grandmother. I went to serve as an emergency, got into the Airborne Forces. And in the second Chechen one he died, covering himself from the bullet of a sniper of his commander. There were many witnesses to this; it was by no means accidental that he fell under a bullet. Brother gave him an idea. Hero of Russia, posthumously ...
                    Well, what the Germans really were during that war REALLY, all my relatives in the Crimea looked great during the occupation. So no fucking impressions from books and tabloid newspapers
                    1. Tykta
                      -5
                      9 July 2013 18: 25
                      So you are a revisionist !! let's tell that Hitler first declared war on the Russians and only then began to bomb our cities ... did the Germans not participate in 3 epic wars against Russia, in the Great Patriotic War of the Twelfth year as part of Napoleon’s troops, in the 1st World War and finally the Great Patriotic War?
                      The fact that your ancestors lived under the invaders already characterizes you as a person with the ability to mimic, therefore, all idle stories about how you lived under the invaders are not interesting to me, my grandfather fought at the front, finished the front line near Koenigsberg, drank himself and died after the war, burned out war. Because the hardships of a war between soldiers and the occupied population are incommensurable in principle and fire me from your details of how you lived well there. It is enough to read about the Young Guard to understand who was a soldier in that war and who was a herd
                      1. Misantrop
                        +14
                        9 July 2013 18: 39
                        Quote: Tykta
                        The fact that your ancestors lived under the invaders already characterizes you as a person with the ability to mimic
                        Shut your mouth, warrior. Partisan detachment and underground workers, in your opinion - the ability to mimicry? 4 generations of military men in the family, of which 3 are officers - is this "the ability to adapt"? Starting with the Russian-Japanese war, my family did not miss a single war, it took part in all of them. At the front, not in the rear. My pension is for seniority, not for sores, and 8 years real mountain war the younger brother is "herd"? What is typical, having changed the shoulder straps for civilian clothes (by length of service, again, without mowing), NOBODY of them got drunk. Tell me brat about real war ... lol
                      2. Tykta
                        -13
                        9 July 2013 18: 59
                        What do you have to prove? I just don’t believe such characters as you, who de patriots say, although they support revisionism with every word, and at any convenient and uncomfortable moment they start to beat their hooves in the chest and prove that they served Tsar Gorokh. I don’t believe in general, so don’t bother to prove the opposite, you can just touch you stupidly: Azazaz Lalka Rzhu to Ardin’s voice with radadlovna in the studio, but your methods of pleasure do not deliver me, your revisionist point of view on the history of wars and the peoples participating in them proves that you are a liberal, and if every second soldier in your family is all just bullshit.
                      3. Misantrop
                        +5
                        9 July 2013 19: 46
                        Quote: Tykta
                        I just do not believe such types as you
                        Your right, it happens, NOT DANO ... request Like to think, it seems ... Swallowed labels like rags rags. "The hardships of war", "revisionism" and other "isms", absolutely not imagining what it looks like in REAL. I tried not to talk about the war until I saw it myself. OWN eyes, not stories. In the summer of 93, in Abkhazia. It was only after this that some understanding of the stories of the front-line soldiers came. And among my friends there are many of them, others have more than a dozen years of combat experience. And a "personal cemetery" to the horizon ... Interestingly, many of them have about the same attitude towards the Germans. When a German is an enemy, then he is exactly an ENEMY, completely and unambiguously, when a friend is the same. By the way, in the OVD, the only more or less normal ally of the USSR was exactly the GDR army, all the other Poles and other Hungarians were more ballast ...
                      4. Cossack23
                        0
                        10 July 2013 07: 47
                        Germans know how to carry out orders, even the most cruel Russian cities burned more than once under their onslaught, they are clear-cut warriors (without our slackness) and thousands of people do not put them in the earth of all our enemies, they are the most correct and Hitler very much doubted about Russia, but if not Russia then then England and other Europe - that's where the fags sit and tell the corrupt command (no matter whose Russian, German) how to kill more Russians. read "left-handed" about how he shod a flea - that's all of Europe, but not the Germans ( by the way, they consist of Hungarians, Austrians, Dutch, Germans and someone else)
              2. +5
                9 July 2013 16: 07
                Quote: Tykta
                Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and by occupation the Führer already radically solved troubles with our people ...

                I don’t know what kind of people you have for which you are crucifying, but in my opinion it’s just that the Russian people have a headache and how to deal with locusts that have flown up.
                You see, Tykta, the people want to live quietly in their own land, not on a stranger.
                1. Tykta
                  +2
                  9 July 2013 16: 41
                  your landmarks are so blurred that you don’t even understand which nation you belong to, the disease of cosmopolitanism that you mentioned was overcome only by one country in the world, it was the USSR but exclusively within its own borders, while the imposed, alien cosmopolitanism, together with all the benefits of hedonism ( which are interpreted as liberal ideas) is not actually cosmopolitanism, it is a rejection of the feelings of one’s own culture. In the USSR, people of different nationalities felt very well in completely different republics of their country, everywhere they were glad to all, it was the Tower of Babel that our peoples inhabiting the USSR built. And who you are and what you are like to me absolutely no difference, you can’t change my mind, because I have a very clear idea of ​​the past of my country.
                  1. +1
                    9 July 2013 17: 06
                    Quote: Tykta
                    your landmarks are so blurred that you don’t even understand which nation you belong to

                    Stop pointless spraying.
                    Your concept of tact (or maybe moral?) Is so blurred that you don’t even see boundaries that you should not go over.

                    Quote: Tykta
                    And who you are and what you represent to me absolutely no difference, you cannot change my views, since I have a very clear idea of ​​the past of my country.

                    Have I been imposed on you as a friend? Or tried to change your views? Why do I need this if I don’t even know who is knocking on the clave hundreds of kilometers from me?

                    But answer a simple question, how can a Russian, who wants to protect himself from alien in his environment and moreover dangerous elements, be, as you deign to say, "an enemy of the Russians"? Don't talk about a multinational society and don't use the USSR as an example. As I understand it, you have little understanding of this topic.
                    A multinational society is good when each of its ... members has a clear understanding of their place in it and guarantees safe living in it.
                    You recall how such issues were resolved in the multinational USSR? Recall evictions of local nationalities? The measure is tough, but necessary.
                    Effective measures to restore order are no less necessary now. And not empty talk about friendship and brotherhood of nations. When it comes to survival, it is no longer a matter of courtesies. They will be later, when the Russian people will restore order in their home.
                    1. Tykta
                      -8
                      9 July 2013 17: 41
                      with your meaningless remarks you tried to assert that I am wrong. your allusions regarding imposing friends on you - you see only, I have no desire to have something in common with a hollow bream that pokes into the eyes that his opponent sits hundreds of kilometers away from him, as if selectively forgetting that he himself is also completely He knocks on the keyboard and thereby shows his inferiority regarding the use of cheap trolling as the basis of his actions.
                      again raises the question of the deportation of the Chechens who fought against the soldiers of the Red Army, what do you think that the Chechens did not fight against us? so the decision to deport was completely fair, if you don’t own the question, you should not be dishonored by its limitations and stupidity.
                      and yes, if you use some old Slavic turns of speech, such as "people" - this does not make you a Slav, you use hackneyed stamps in every line, you try to get into the credibility of those who read your lines, but any person whose understanding of reality does not depend on surrounding opinion - sees all your pathetic attempts
                      1. Misantrop
                        +7
                        9 July 2013 18: 14
                        Quote: Tykta
                        their meaningless remarks
                        So far, meaningless remarks I see from you. But here for 152 people the crew of the cruiser sometimes reached 38 nationalities. And there have never been ANY problems on a national basis. This is internationalism in REAL. When the survival of ALL depends on EVERYONE, then they are not divided into national heaps. Just because you KILL (and drag others along ...)
                      2. +3
                        9 July 2013 18: 16
                        Quote: Tykta
                        your allusions regarding imposing friends on you - you see only

                        Is it really not enough to master a couple of lines? Be careful, you are repeating. And again you are mistaken. I repeat
                        Quote: Flood
                        Have I been imposed on you as a friend? Or tried to change your views? Why do I need this if I don’t even know who is knocking on the clave hundreds of kilometers from me?


                        Quote: Tykta
                        I don’t have the slightest desire to have anything in common with a hollow bream that pokes in the eye with the fact that his opponent sits hundreds of kilometers away from him as if selectively forgetting that he himself also completely knocks on the keyboard and thereby shows his inferiority regarding the use of cheap trolling as the basis of their actions.

                        It seems that a person has a certain vocabulary and even knows how to screw some clever words into his sentences, but is completely not friends with logic.
                        I was just the remoteness of the opponent and my unfamiliarity with him argued my mutual unwillingness to have anything in common with him.

                        If you understand the abyss of your conclusions, and then systematically state them - maybe someone will understand you. But I’m afraid your tattered psyche, which can be judged by emotions that are overwhelming and hostile, will not stand such a test.

                        Quote: Tykta
                        again raises the question of the deportation of the Chechens who fought against the soldiers of the Red Army

                        who raised this question? I get the feeling that you are communicating with yourself. Do not spray. Better less is better.

                        Quote: Tykta
                        and yes, if you use some old Slavic turns of speech, such as "people" - this does not make you a Slav

                        It doesn’t matter to me what in your eyes corresponds to the concept of Slavicism and what not. I express my thoughts as best I can and the good old Russian words are most welcome here.

                        And you, sir, are behaving HAM. Play the pluses pluses on.
                      3. Tykta
                        -5
                        9 July 2013 18: 32
                        Well do you turn on the fool? Why are you lying around? what other nations were massively deported besides Chechens? Here are some? besides Chechens, call deportation on national grounds?
                      4. +2
                        9 July 2013 18: 42
                        Missing another rudeness. I will try to interpret.
                        Did I write something about mass? Massively - how much?
                        Moldovans were deported, Tatars were deported, but who knows who else.

                        And did I question the feasibility and necessity of such steps?
                        I repeat, you argue with yourself.

                        But I’m interested in something else. Why can't you assume that there are people who say and write what they think? Why look between the lines and blame the interlocutors, based on their guesses and assumptions? Moreover, inclined to see in people base thoughts and motives?
                      5. +1
                        9 July 2013 18: 56
                        Please, if you don’t know, deported Koreans from the Far East, then Germans from the Volga region, Crimean Tatars, Karachais, Balkars, Ingush, Kalmyks, Greeks, Bulgarians and Armenians from Crimea, Meskhetian Turks from Georgia Enough? Or continue? Do you think these nations should feel gratitude?
                      6. Cossack23
                        +2
                        10 July 2013 08: 06
                        my ancestors to whom Russia owes its territories, but were not simply deported but destroyed, and this is called a simple word genocide. I live in a village where 3-4% of the Cossacks are left and the rest are in the park one on top of the other. from all this dialogue it is necessary to draw a conclusion — you little friend do not have a life view, you have a life-long diagnosis. You don’t know a damn about the history of the Homeland and did not draw a single correct conclusion.
              3. +2
                9 July 2013 19: 02
                Quote: Tykta
                Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and by occupation, the Fuhrer has already radically solved troubles with our people ... you will be the same as I understand it - but you are not a fascist, you are enemies of the Russians, the history of world wars confirms this.

                Hitler was a mixture of a Jew and a German! Here you are punished!
            2. yak69
              +24
              9 July 2013 16: 27
              Quote: Siberian German
              I am for more radical schemes for resolving this issue in the style of Grandfather Stalin

              Everything is very simple and is done the same everywhere. Several enterprising citizens come from the Caucasus (no matter where - to the Russian hinterland). They "feed" local city officials, open a business (no matter which one). With profits, they must "unfasten" the local authorities, the cops ... sorry, the police. In a year or two, their relatives come - men, women, children. Then they begin to arrange new arrivals in different "grain" places (after "feeding" all who need it). Then they open a cafe, where all these "like-minded people" gather - have a rest, discuss further plans for expansion. Very quickly local girls themselves come to them and, very many, for a drink or for clothes, with great pleasure "give" and "with the backside and with pered" to all these citizens, because they have money. The local working population is offended and impossible to look at all this disgrace. All the more so that very soon all entrances are "blocked" for a local person in order to open a business or continue what he started. Over time, the city administration, the structures subordinate to it, the cops ... oh, sorry, the police, turn out to be tightly, kinship-brotherly connected with the visiting citizens. Now, having felt the strength, impunity (nevertheless bought!), Dancing begins in the streets and squares, insolent "assaults" at everyone who looks askance or is indignant. Such people are generally beaten (often to death). Further, more, you can drag the girl you like against her will, fuck her, intimidate her and her parents and rejoice further!
              One day even the local terpils become unbearable and a riot begins. So it was in the Urals, In Karelia, it often happens in the Kuban and in the Stavropol Territory.
              Why it happens? After all, ONE AND THE SAME SCENARIO is periodically repeated !!
              We can certainly say that all local citizens should be not indifferent, etc., etc. Then the question arises - what and to whom are our taxes paid, which hard workers honestly pay from their meager salaries ?! Is it not for our money that all this venal mentura is contained ... sorry, I just can't get used to it! ... this whole policeman-structure, which only knows how to take bribes and divert its own from responsibility. And the city administration does not exist on our money, all this pack of parasite deputies ?! And those who are above them, in the area? And those who are in the Government and the Kremlin on whose money are they fattening ?! They all live on our money and "plow with slave labor in galleys" !!
              After all, it is their responsibility to monitor compliance with the law and the implementation of the law! It is their responsibility to make ordinary citizens live more convenient, comfortable, more prosperous! Is not it?!
              What in fact ?! State embezzlement AT ALL LEVELS, IN ALL STRUCTURES! Disregard for the needs of ordinary citizens. And this disgrace begins in the Moscow offices of the highest level. Those who are lower well understand this signal - "So we can too."
              And so, when the next murder takes place and there is already no strength to endure, a riot occurs and the game of fair justice begins, in search of those responsible, etc. True, the perpetrators do not always reach the court and the verdict, but this is no longer important - the government has reported!

              ALL FANS OF PUTIN AND MEDVEDEV DEDICATED ....
              1. yak69
                +9
                9 July 2013 16: 46
                This is not to say that all newcomers are bad, not that the inhabitants of the Caucasus are hooligans and violators of the law. I am not writing all this for this. All of us, together, must put things in order in our house. If the authorities in the city steal and do not do what they are supposed to do, then we will drive away such power with pissing rags! If the local policemen do not do what they are supposed to do, the men gather and all come together to the police, administration building and rigidly and decisively "ask" all this rag-tag to leave their jobs forever.
                And to wait until an honest uncle Vova comes from the Kremlin and fix everything, it's stupid. He has already come ... for the third time !! ... and he’s got it right ... Ramzan, for example, likes the way he got it all ...
                Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are.
                1. yak69
                  +5
                  9 July 2013 16: 49
                  Remember Putin's words after the "second coming", he recommended an iPhone and said "There is personal chemistry, I trust him. We are of the same blood ..."
                2. crash
                  -2
                  9 July 2013 20: 02
                  Solzhenitsyn about the Chechens:
                  I studied at the Kok-Terek school with me in the 9th grade, a young Chechen man, Abdul Khudaev. He did not arouse warm feelings and did not try to provoke them, as if he were afraid to humble himself to be pleasant, and he was always emphasized dry, very proud and cruel. But it was impossible not to appreciate his clear, distinct mind. In mathematics, in physics, he never stopped at the level that his comrades, but always went inland and asked questions that came from the tireless search for the essence. Like all settler children, he was inevitably covered by the so-called public at school, that is, first by a pioneer organization, then by the Komsomol organization, Uchkoms, wall newspapers, upbringing, conversations - that spiritual tuition that the Chechens so reluctantly paid.

                  Abdul lived with his old mother. None of their close relatives survived, there was only Abdul's elder brother, who had long been paid for, not the first time in the camp for theft and murder, but each time quickly leaving from there by amnesty, or by set-off. One day he came to Kok-Terek, drank two days without waking up, quarreled with some local Chechen, grabbed a knife and rushed after him. A stranger old Chechen blocked his way: she threw up her arms to stop him. If he followed Chechen law, he would have to drop the knife and stop the persecution. But he was no longer so much Chechen as a thief - he waved a knife and stabbed an innocent old woman. Then a drunken head entered him that awaits him under Chechen law. He rushed to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, opened in the murder, and he was willingly sent to prison. He hid, but his younger brother Abdul, his mother and another old Chechen of their kind, uncle Abdul remained. The news of the murder spread instantly across the Chechen territory of Kok-Terek - and all three of the remaining Khudaevs gathered in their house, stocked up with food, water, laid a window, hammered the door, and hid like in a fortress. Chechens from the clan of the murdered woman now had to take revenge on someone from the Khudaev clan. Until the Khudaev’s blood was shed for their blood, they were not worthy of the rank of people. the siege of the Khudaev’s house began. Abdul did not go to school - the whole Kok-Terek and the whole school knew why. An elder of our school, a Komsomol member, an excellent student, was threatened with death by a knife every minute — perhaps, now, when they are seated at their desks on a phone call, or now, when a literature teacher talks about socialist humanism. Everyone knew, everyone remembered about it, only talked about it at breaks - and everyone dropped their eyes. Neither the party nor the Komsomol organization of the school, nor the head teacher, nor the director, nor the RayONO — no one went to save Khudaev, no one even approached his besieged house in a buzzing Chechen territory like a beehive. Yes, if only they! - but before the breath of blood feuds, so terrible still were the menacing parties for us, both the district committee, and the district regiments, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs with the commandant’s office and the police behind their adobe walls. The barbaric wild old law died - and it immediately turned out that there was no Soviet power in Kok-Terek. Her hand didn’t extend very much from the regional center of Dzhambul either, because for three days and from there the plane with the troops didn’t fly in and there wasn’t any decisive instruction, except for the order to defend the prison with cash.
                  1. crash
                    -1
                    9 July 2013 20: 06
                    Solzhenitsyn about the Chechens (continued):
                    And only Chechen old men showed their intelligence! They went to the Ministry of Internal Affairs once - and asked to give senior Khudaev to them for reprisal. The Ministry of Internal Affairs cautiously refused. They came to the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the second time - and asked to arrange a vowel court and shoot Khudaev with them. Then, they promised, blood feud was removed from the Khudaevs. It was impossible to come up with a more reasonable compromise. But how is this a vowel? but how is this a deliberately promised and public execution? After all, he is not political; he is a thief; he is socially close. You can trample on the rights of the Fifty-Eighth, but not a multiple killer. They requested the area - a refusal came. “Then in an hour they will kill the younger Khudaev!” - explained the old people. The officials of the Ministry of Internal Affairs shrugged: this could not concern them. The crime, not yet committed, could not be considered by them.

                    And yet, some twentieth century spirit touched ... not the Ministry of Internal Affairs, no, - the old Chechen hearts that were stiffened up! Still, they did not order the avengers - to take revenge! They sent a telegram to Alma-Ata. From there hastily arrived some other old people, the most respected in the whole nation. They gathered the advice of the oldest. Elder Khudaev was cursed and sentenced to death, wherever on earth he met a Chechen knife. The rest of the Khudaevs were called and said: “Go. You will not be touched. ”

                    And Abdul took the books and went to school. And with hypocritical smiles, the party organizer and the Komsomol met him there. And in the upcoming conversations and lessons, he again sang about the communist consciousness, not recalling the annoying incident. Not a muscle shuddered on Abdul’s corrupted face.
                    Once again, he realized that there is a major force on earth: blood feud.
              2. +2
                10 July 2013 17: 17
                Hence the explosion of popular anger in Voronezh. Stavropol Territory, Now in the Saratov region. Wait until the whole country burns ???? Maybe that’s why the export of capital increased ??? are leaving slowly?
                1. 0
                  10 July 2013 20: 10
                  Pugachevites are perplexed about the introduction of cadets into the city


                  10.07.2013 19: 13: 40
                  Mikhail Babich, Plenipotentiary Envoy to the Volga Federal District, did not speak with the Pugachevites about the situation in the city. He waited until they brought a megaphone and with his help began to urge the audience to go to the hall of the House of Culture.

                  After a few minutes he almost succeeded, a significant part of the people followed him under the roof. But also a lot of people remained standing on the street.

                  At the same time, many citizens were interested in him, with Governor Radaev, for what purpose cadets of the Ministry of Internal Affairs school were brought into the city and why there were so many police. The population fears that this may be directed against them.
        2. +16
          9 July 2013 10: 43
          The system is rotten through and through!
          The worst thing is that sooner or later this abscess will break through.
          And then there will be a Russian rebellion, bloody and merciless.
          The top of the Putlerovites will have time to slip away.
          And ordinary people will disentangle!
          1. Bashkaus
            +13
            9 July 2013 12: 45
            Manages to get away? Remember how in 99m there was an attempt to bombard the American embassy in Moscow with grantamet? Are you sure that on taking off from the Vnukovo airport the next VIP airliner with an official on board, he will not fly in the tail greetings from a summer resident from MANPADS accidentally breaking a tire on the Kiev highway. No jokes ... It’s not yet known how the matter will end in Novohopersk, the media didn’t get water in their mouths, and there the guys are not Moscow plankton, but old Cossacks ...
            1. +6
              9 July 2013 13: 08
              Quote: Bashkaus
              Are you sure that on taking off from the Vnukovo airport the next VIP airliner with an official on board, he will not fly in the tail greetings from a summer resident with MANPADS accidentally breaking a tire on the Kiev highway.

              it is good to !
            2. -4
              9 July 2013 15: 26
              Quote: Bashkaus
              It is not yet known how the matter will end in Novohopersk, the media scooped up water in their mouths, and there the guys are not Moscow plankton, but rather mature Cossacks ...

              Speak directly - the Nazis are hardened. Here in the next article "Cossacks" are glorified in the German service. So in Novokhopersk, fans of such "Cossacks" rule everything ...

              And, unfortunately, they will soon start to prevail everywhere, because the authorities cannot restore order with the help of their democracy. And order is the most important thing, more important than law and human life.
              1. Misantrop
                +8
                9 July 2013 15: 42
                Quote: bot.su
                authorities cannot restore order with the help of their democracy.

                Order is majority rule, binding on ALL. And the current "democrats" establish the power of the minority. Only for the rest, without touching yourself
              2. +6
                9 July 2013 16: 09
                Quote: bot.su
                Speak directly - the Nazis are hardened. Here in the next article "Cossacks" are glorified in the German service.

                nerd, on what basis do you sculpt people?
                Or are you broadcasting directly from the scene?
                No, then moderate your formidable ardor.
                1. -1
                  9 July 2013 21: 02
                  Quote: Flood
                  nerd, on what basis do you sculpt people?

                  So you are sure that the nationalists have nothing to do with Novokhopersk?

                  Quote: Flood
                  No, then moderate your formidable ardor.

                  Yes, I would moderate, but one collective farmer ruined the USSR. Now others with a Nazi bias climb up. You like the Nazis, here in Moldova and breed them.
                  1. 0
                    10 July 2013 12: 03
                    Quote: bot.su
                    So you are sure that the nationalists have nothing to do with Novokhopersk?

                    They are always more than when talking about the interests of Russia. At least as they understand it. BUT besides them there are still hundreds and thousands of Voronezh residents who are dissatisfied with the situation and express their dissatisfaction. Why stigmatize everyone without looking back?
                    Quote: bot.su
                    You like the Nazis, here in Moldova and breed them.

                    nerd, sort it out for a start nationalists or Nazis.
                    Then we’ll talk about my attitude towards them and my citizenship.
                    1. 0
                      10 July 2013 17: 38
                      Quote: Flood
                      nerd, sort it out for a start nationalists or Nazis.

                      The nationalist who puts on the avatars of the Cossacks in the form of the Wehrmacht is a Nazi. Such comrades were abundant among the public, which stirs up water on Khopre.
                      I agree, and other people are there too. But the leadership there is opposition. And pseudo-ecologists, like Chirikova, have been noted, and even the Communists, who consider it justified an alliance with people using Nazi symbols. Then for some time I was not interested in what was happening, and there the struggle among the defenders themselves began, allegations of corruption, etc.
                      Your citizenship is not particularly interesting to me.

                      Quote: Flood
                      BUT besides them there are still hundreds and thousands of Voronezh residents who are dissatisfied with the situation and express their dissatisfaction. Why stigmatize everyone without looking back?


                      If someone skillfully did not stir up this topic, there would be no unrest. But these someone skillfully play on ignorance and fear of everything new. Of course, the stupid and greedy managers of the UMMC are largely to blame.

                      But, nevertheless, the country's future lies in industrialization, not in "ecology". "Environmentalists" who get into politics must be pressed mercilessly, for me it is the same infection that promotes the decay, suicide of the nation, like ... other trends in family life fashionable in the West. It is necessary to deal with the protection of nature in the process of nature management, and not the creation of all kinds of reserves and the return to the plow, horses and checkers.
                      1. 0
                        10 July 2013 19: 22
                        Quote: bot.su

                        I agree, and other people are there too. But the leadership there is opposition. And pseudo-ecologists, like Chirikova, have been noted, and even the Communists, who consider it justified an alliance with people using Nazi symbols. Then for some time I was not interested in what was happening, and there the struggle among the defenders themselves began, allegations of corruption, etc.

                        Do you agree? Then I won’t have to repeat about shortcuts.
                        In general, in this matter our views of the Voronezh citizen are much more interesting.

                        Quote: bot.su
                        Your citizenship is not particularly interesting to me.

                        Well, how can that be. It was you who referred me to "my" Moldova.
                        However, I will not argue with you. All clear.
                      2. 0
                        11 July 2013 00: 10
                        Quote: Flood
                        In general, in this matter our views of the Voronezh citizen are much more interesting.

                        Voronezh is so far away, there the opinion of other residents should be asked, there are fewer cities.
                        However, I expressed my opinion.
          2. 0
            10 July 2013 22: 32
            police at work. But why did the people become guilty ???
        3. Uncle Serozha
          +3
          9 July 2013 19: 00
          Quote: Nikolai S.
          If the power covers the Chechen bandits, then the Chechen bandits rob the people and give part of the loot to the authorities. Otherwise, what is the use of power to cover bandits and murderers.

          I'm afraid it's not so simple. Do not forget about those who sleep and see how to ruin Russia according to the same scenario as the USSR. Mass actions implicated in ethnic strife are what they need.
          But even the Caucasians cannot get away with such things. The best course of action is informal. A Russian guy was injured in a fight - Caucasians suffered in a couple of days. Just in a fight, without any slogans. Then their diasporas will behave decently in Russia, for they will understand that "Vengeance is mine, and I will repay."
      2. Nevsky
        +77
        9 July 2013 08: 44
        View from Ukraine. (Southeast)

        What can I tell you. The eternal Chechen question. When, in the early 90s, there was still no generation of "self-styled" people in Ukraine who grew up on new textbooks, when the thought that you were sort of a Ukrainian was not yet ingrained, do you know what kept the collapse of Ukraine and the reunification of Russian regions with the Russian Federation? Chechen question. I still remember a school matinek, school number 21, Berdyansk, Zaporozhye region, 1996. Girl in Russian: "We have peace in Ukraine, and we are not waging a war in Chechnya like Russia" (55% of the quote is reproduced). We also had video tapes with bullying of Russian soldiers here, which was not there. Even recently, in 2004, Yushchenko used the technology: “Yanukovych is for dual citizenship, do you want you (your son) to serve in Chechnya?

        Today with a red rag "Chechnya"They have not been afraid for a long time in Ukraine, firstly, a generation of even Russian-speaking Svidomites has grown up, and secondly, a consumer class has formed without a family or tribe ( I speak only for the South-East of Ukraine), where the main thing: eat, sleep, shit ... b. But after all, 8 million Russians and 12 million Russian-speaking Ukrainians would be useful today to Mother Russia in putting things in order and reducing such Caucasian minorities to the level of a mono-center from the general population :(

        Someone will accuse me of Russian nationalism, but I am only for maintaining our ethnic group. Tell me the alarm early? Oh well.


        PSUkraine was torn from Russia, and this is a tragedy for two peoples, and in 20 years it will come back ...
        1. mogus
          +18
          9 July 2013 08: 50
          nationalism is considered in the Kremlin. In Russia (for the Slavs) this is a grant of our continued existence.
          1. +7
            9 July 2013 13: 08
            Quote: mogus
            nationalism is considered in the Kremlin.

            There is such a charm Surkov, Russian only by last name, and by father - Chechen and Muslim. Such a handsome man to a certain extent defines nat. RF policy.
            1. Yarbay
              +4
              9 July 2013 13: 31
              Quote: Uncle
              There is such a charm Surkov

              no longer sitting !!
              1. 0
                9 July 2013 14: 01
                Well, somewhere, anyway, it is not just that they put him in the Kremlin of this "great schemer", they gave him billions of money for this "business man", they prepare him for something, and those who are prepared they are not supposed to be poor !!! and besides Chechen and Muslim
              2. 0
                9 July 2013 14: 31
                Quote: Yarbay
                no longer sitting !!

                Where did he go?
                1. Yarbay
                  +2
                  9 July 2013 14: 39
                  Quote: Uncle
                  Where did he go?

                  yes tired of determining national politics)))))
                  apparently writes memoirs !!
                  but I think it will not be lost!
            2. Tykta
              -1
              9 July 2013 16: 56
              You know Surkov did not determine the national policy of the Russian Federation (it’s quite easy to google), Surkov himself in his rare speeches seemed to me more than an adequate person with his point of view and quite toughly opposed himself to the liberals (and by the way, as I understand you, a liberalist?), For which apparently lost his post. Well, on his father he is a Chechen, but on his mother is he Russian, where can I put this part of him?
              just a dull sketch of a. on the fan
        2. +9
          9 July 2013 09: 14
          Quote: Nevsky
          .Ukraine was torn from Russia, and this is a tragedy for two peoples, and after 20 years it will come back ...

          And why in 20 years? Right now, just those girls and boys who read the words you write about have come to the forefront. They have grown and become an active political force. The generation of 30 summers ...
        3. +41
          9 July 2013 09: 36
          Oh guys it seems to start soon hi it’s not long to wait when a wave of similar meetings takes place in Russia and rightly so. The point is not that Chechens are there, or not Chechens, nobody calls for Nazism, everyone just wants the same conditions for everyone, and not when this trash rolls around the city on a car and burns out of injuries, but the government does not care. The government cannot watch the observance of laws or does not want to, well, then the people will take upon themselves this function, I think a dozen mob trials around Russia and they will start to make some kind of gestures, and then suddenly someone from the Russians in the heat of the house will shout down with the governor and the corrupt power and then their heads will fly.
          1. Tykta
            +16
            9 July 2013 11: 06
            the easiest way to counteract this behavior is to take ambiguous countermeasures: the southern guest broke our guy’s arm - break him two, knock out an eye - knock out two, knock out a tooth - break your jaw. The only thing that can really frighten them is not prison and fines, but actions similar to what they allow themselves to do and think that they will go unpunished. As soon as they realize that their aggressiveness will be perceived with hostility and punishment will immediately be followed by their own deeds, the tone and behavior will immediately change.
            1. +24
              9 July 2013 11: 29
              If for every Russian killed by Chechen to kill 1 Chechen then the Chechens will remain only on the pages of the history textbook in one line: "There was such a people ...."
              1. Tykta
                +2
                9 July 2013 13: 25
                there are normal people among the children of the mountains, reasonable, reasonable, understanding that they live among people with a different mentality and who have accepted our customs and our way of life, and we were talking about those scumbags whose alpha-libido libido covers the horizon, and where they see every stranger by blood as their tributary and a slave. that is why adequate opposition will open the eyes of such animals, when at stake for their actions people who are contrary to the law will take the same actions in relation to them - which are contrary to the law but socially fair.
            2. yuri p
              0
              9 July 2013 12: 30
              and if the owner broke his guest’s hand, to do as in Kushchevka to justify, you call for a civil warrior.
            3. +11
              9 July 2013 12: 38
              Quote: Tykta
              the southern guest broke our guy’s hand - break him two, knocked out an eye - knock out two, knocked out a tooth - break his jaw.

              and if, God forbid, an inhabitant of the mountains made a fuss of, then take him to the gay parade in Amsterdam, after pumping up his lips and boobs with a botex and dressing him in leather thongs ...
              1. Tykta
                0
                9 July 2013 18: 09
                I don’t even know what is more in your post - fantasies or stupidities ... fifty and fifty probably ... in the cell to the blue uncle-strict workers who had visited the pre-trial detention center from the stage, and then to the churchyard or to the crematorium
                1. 0
                  9 July 2013 23: 53
                  Quote: Tykta
                  fantasy or nonsense

                  neither one nor the other ... continued about two broken arms and stuff. Do you think a less idiotic picture is drawn from you?
                  "Committee on Counteraction":
                  - Southern guest keeper - 2 pcs.
                  - a hand, jaw breaker, an eye beater - 1 pc.
                  - the explainer for what or just for the company - 1 pc.
                  Total: 4 units of popular retribution
                  Why is the idea of ​​Amsterdam dumber or more fantastic ... having fun as we can on the keyboard
            4. yak69
              +2
              9 July 2013 17: 08
              Quote: Tykta
              the easiest way to counteract this behavior is to take ambiguous countermeasures: the southern guest broke our guy’s hand - break him two, knocked out an eye - knock out two,

              Here the situation is simpler and more complicated at the same time. Easier, because "behavior in the pack" is determined by the leader. And if the Chechen (Dagestan, Ingush, etc.) leaders gather their elders and say something like the following: "Dear fathers, please explain to everyone in your village, to your younger ones, that the law is the same for everyone and citizens of other nationalities must be respected in the same way. how you respect your fellow tribesmen. Respect the laws of those places and people where you go to live and work. "
              I am 100% sure that if such work was carried out there in the Caucasus, the situation in the country would be different.
              А more difficult, because at the helm traitors and bastards, and the fish, as you know, rots from the head.
              1. Tykta
                +1
                9 July 2013 17: 54
                Yes, no elders are needed, these are all fairy tales for fools and foolish people, as well as a topic for journalists trying to uplift THEIR customs, where the elders supposedly decide everything. decides the strength and adequacy of the impact. no elder would help Marzhanov Ruslan, what they can resurrect him or prevent squabble? the only thing that can stop them is the inevitability of an adequate or exceeding counteraction, if they know that for killing himself they will kill and kill his friends who did not prevent bloodshed, then I doubt that he would have pulled out a scalpel and not tarted the Tatar.
          2. Furnace driver
            +4
            9 July 2013 11: 29
            you already feel that the limit of patience of a Russian peasant is running out.
            the organizers of the color revolutions can easily take advantage of this situation and direct the rebellion in the direction they need ...
            one thing is good, those who go to Sagra, Surgut, but practically do not devote time to the Internet throughout Russia, once they work. but if it breaks through, lynching will be harsh.
            as in that story about a taiga fugitive from one of the TV channels: migrant workers from Uzbekistan killed the guy with whom they worked together, played football, having drunk him before sleeping pills. Having learned the brother, he came to sort it out, and the head of the farm where the migrant workers worked fired them and hired the Kirghiz. as a result, innocent Kyrgyz were brutally murdered in the course of lynching, and they sat down for revenge for their brother, but not that ...
            innocent people often suffer ... and those who are guilty are not only alive, but still continue their criminal activities but somewhere else.
          3. tverskoi77
            0
            9 July 2013 16: 06
            Oh guys it seems to start soon

            Reasons for this, the sea + abroad will gladly help the new revolution, and the symbolic 2017 is just around the corner.
            PS the patriarch has already bought a yacht just in case, why the yacht is apparently afraid of MANPADS)))
          4. +1
            9 July 2013 16: 12
            Quote: Joker
            The government cannot watch for compliance with the laws or does not want to, well then the people will take on this function, I think a dozen lynching across Russia and they will begin to make some kind of body movements

            I'm afraid this will not solve the problem. Servants of the people sneezed at this.
            That's when the lynching begins on them themselves - then they run in like cockroaches.
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        5. 0
          9 July 2013 10: 22
          The idea is certainly correct, but I want to ask; How are you doing with the Tatars in the Crimea?
          1. Misantrop
            0
            9 July 2013 15: 47
            Quote: screw cutter
            How are you doing with the Tatars in Crimea?
            Too bad, to be honest. One little consolation, they ceased to be a monolith, in all obedient to their shepherds. Begin to THINK. And plan your actions based on YOUR interests (and not a dozen freaks from the board)
        6. yuri p
          0
          9 July 2013 12: 27
          there is no ethnos as such since the 90s there is a caste of untouchables and bonded.
        7. 0
          9 July 2013 16: 34
          Preservation of an ethnos ...
          "From March 25 to September 29, 2013, the TV channel" Russia 1 "and the Russian Geographical Society with the support of the TV channels" Russia 2 "," Russia 24 "," Moscow 24 "," My Planet "," Strana ", regional GTRK, radio" Vesti FM "," Mayak "," Radio Rossii ", Internet portals" Vesti.Ru "and" Strana.Ru "and the information support of the newspaper" Komsomolskaya Pravda "and conduct a multimedia project-competition" Russia 10 "."
          I can understand everything, but the new building is a symbol of the country ...

          http://10russia.ru/object_31
      3. +26
        9 July 2013 08: 51
        Quote: Edward72
        The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.


        Here the young guys ceased to endure and began to act.

        A non-governmental organization to counteract illegal migration "Shield of Moscow" was created and operates in Moscow
        http://vk.com/board_of_msk




        Examples of the organization’s activities are posted in the video materials:

        http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D1%89%D0%B8%D1%82+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%8

        1%D0%BA%D0%B2%D1%8B&oq=%D0%A9%D0%B8%D1%82+%D0%BC%D0%BE&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0.1028.2

        327.0.4412.6.5.0.1.1.0.86.328.5.5.0.eytns%2Cpt%3D-27%2Cn%3D2%2Cui%3Dt..0.0...1ac

        .1.11.youtube.6bEx-MusVZk








        Report from the organization’s website page:


        For 4 months of work of the civil public movement "Shield of Moscow":
        Checked over 100 messages from citizens, of which half were correct.
        These are 37 basements (all are closed at the moment),
        1 switchboard
        1 boiler room (converted into a dormitory),
        3 premises of DESA and 2 cellars of DESA.
        We covered 25 districts in 8 districts of Moscow!
        More than 450 illegal immigrants were discovered, of which at least 341 were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 were deported!
        1. +24
          9 July 2013 09: 18
          When the authorities are engaged in talking, people take up the matter. We feed so many services, and social activists work. It’s really bad. Because the guys are working on the verge of breaking the law and may well get into the zone with good intentions. What the government does not understand?
          1. +10
            9 July 2013 11: 37
            Quote: domokl
            Because the guys are working on the verge of breaking the law and may well get into the zone with good intentions. What the government does not understand?


            He understands perfectly well, and will even be glad of such a turn ... So that all kinds of social activists do not interfere with the business and earn money ...

            ... The passivity of the authorities will lead to the fact that Russian people brought to the limit will have to solve these problems themselves (which we already observe in Moscow and in Pugachev ... And how much information does not reach the public at all ...?)
            ... And our people are already at the limit. Remember those teachers who reprimanded their Caucasian students. If you have already taught patient teachers, what can we say about many other people?
        2. Airman
          +11
          9 July 2013 09: 30
          [quote = GreatRussia]
          More than 450 illegal immigrants were discovered, of which at least 341 were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 were deported! [/ quote] [/ quote]

          Why not EVERYTHING? LEFT-SECURITY bodies are on guard of migrants and bandits.
          1. +7
            9 July 2013 09: 32
            Quote: Povshnik
            Why not EVERYTHING? LEFT-SECURITY bodies are on guard of migrants and bandits.

            The laws are rotten. As far as I know, the court makes the first decision on the fine, and the second in the second on the adm. expulsion.
            http://www.fmsmo.ru/uslugi_naseleniyu/otvestvennost_za_narusheniya_migratsionnog
            o_legislation
            1. +1
              9 July 2013 14: 39
              Quote: GreatRussia
              The laws are rotten.

              not only, but also corrupt judges, remember the case of Mitya policemen, or when the judge turns everything inside out, supposedly one attacked six Caucasians
              http://www.change.org/ru/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8/%D0%BF%D1%80
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          2. +8
            9 July 2013 09: 40
            Quote: Povshnik
            at least 341 of them were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 were deported!

            Quote: Povshnik
            Why not EVERYTHING?

            Apparently, these seven did not have enough money to pay the "fine" wink
          3. +6
            9 July 2013 09: 45
            [quote = Pvoshnik] More than 450 illegal immigrants were discovered, of which at least 341 were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 was deported! [/ quote] [/ quote] [/ quote]
            And don’t dream. A fine of 2000 rubles for violation and warning. This is all that awaits migrants. Especially the Kyrgyz and Tajiks. They deport most often after closing the workshops of Vietnamese and other Asian.
            It’s expensive, and they release it after a fine. And the quantity? Guys so shitty work. Any Moscow management company uses illegal immigrants to the fullest. I can even open a little secret, find out where Sobyanin will go next Saturday and boldly go on the route since evening. Big part of those who will clean the streets of illegal immigrants.
        3. +5
          9 July 2013 10: 09
          To this shield you still need a sword.
          1. Airman
            +4
            9 July 2013 12: 05
            Quote: Vasily T.
            To this shield you still need a sword.


            And the sword was called a policeman, and to the policeman from the time of the Second World War you yourself know what relation.
        4. Furnace driver
          0
          9 July 2013 11: 31
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Report from the organization’s website page:
          He began to notice on the streets of national combatants in some cities coordinated with the police. a year ago, I didn’t notice this from the time of the USSR
      4. w.ebdo.g
        -4
        9 July 2013 08: 51
        This whole scandal was created for one purpose - to start a civil war with a result not in our favor. That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms in order to turn popular anger into revolution. In the hope that the chocks in this case will also rise and the Syrian scenario will begin. And all this is being done very actively in the last 6-7 years. Just after the statement in 2004, when Putin at the UN assembly openly called the amers invaders and called on all countries to disobey the will of the State Department ...
        America has already tried all sorts of tricks, while the chocks themselves are defiant, but now you can’t organize a war to force these chocks to peace. Now the country has just begun positive changes, we need to have time to do a lot, gain strength, gain sovereignty, teach the media to tell the truth and not fried, frivolous things, to expel American agents and saboteurs from all the vital organs of the country.
        and after that the time will come for forcing our chocks to peace ...
        therefore we endure, wait, prepare ...
        I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...
        Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking drastic measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...

        1. Nevsky
          +16
          9 July 2013 09: 02
          w.ebdo.g
          This whole scandal was created for one purpose - to start a civil war with a result not in our favor. That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms in order to turn popular anger into revolution. In the hope that the chocks in this case will also rise and the Syrian scenario will begin.


          The administration of the city of Pugachev and the 16-year-old Chechen acted in collusion with the CIA? what
          1. +4
            9 July 2013 09: 51
            and you don’t need to guide everyone, just set a common line of behavior and actions
          2. Furnace driver
            +7
            9 July 2013 11: 42
            With the connivance of both the local administration and the administrations of a higher level, illegal immigrants actively settled in these territories, while Russians from abroad put obstacles. In a village, you often stop by, abandoned villages — they are populated by Caucasians and Asians, only they most often do not even buy back home or land. but they simply populate with the full connivance of the authorities and then get the hell out of there, but they slaughter the sheep and Alah Akbar scream and they’ll evict them. now go find the real owners of the houses thrown.
            This time bomb was actively introduced and continues to be introduced in Russia. Soon, not only Russians will leave Stavropol, but also from Voronezh, Tula, Saratov and other areas ...
            To what it came even the Kurds and those populated, and Russian going to the horseradish homeland with two
        2. +8
          9 July 2013 09: 07
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It is too early. Tolerate ..

          That is, we will tolerate right now, tolerate, while Putin "protects" the Chechens, and then, when it becomes "very good," Putin himself will punish all the guilty, and will the "lumps" themselves understand that they are behaving badly? Did I understand you correctly?
        3. +10
          9 July 2013 09: 08
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms

          Hello, Sergey! When our own scumbags freak out like this, the same thing happens in social networks. People just don't like the way the guests behave, that's all.
          1. Yarbay
            +16
            9 July 2013 09: 16
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            People just don't like the way the guests behave, that's all.

            Hi Sanya!
            I can tell from the experience of my country!
            As the authorities allow, guests will behave in such a way!
            The trouble with your country is that the authorities and the law enforcement agencies are not fulfilling their duties at the proper level!
            There are two options why!
            1. That against the background of theft and corruption, an image of the guilty visitors would be created for the people!
            2. They can not and do not want to fulfill their duties!
            1. +5
              9 July 2013 09: 42
              Quote: Yarbay
              The trouble with your country is that the authorities and the law enforcement agencies are not fulfilling their duties at the proper level!

              Our authorities are working on a report for a higher authority. Everything changes only when people take to the streets.
              Hi Alibek hi
            2. mogus
              +1
              9 July 2013 10: 22
              As authorities allow
              guests will behave!

              Actually, the 21st century is in the yard. Knowingly, our attitude to everyone is as to educated people. But if they so want, we will release "into the world" only after training.
              1. +2
                9 July 2013 11: 30
                Quote: mogus
                Actually 21st century in the yard

                Yes 21st century, in the 20th century it was better hi
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          2. w.ebdo.g
            -2
            9 July 2013 09: 44
            Hello, Sanya!
            if you had a goal to raise insurrection in the country, then who would you begin to nod more? to the Russian showdown or to chock?
            right - on chock. Because they are more effective in raising rebellion. Because chock behave a priori badly. Therefore, to create a riot, you need to use the anger of the people for a certain diaspora, wait for the conflict to happen and inflate it to a universal scale ...
            I am against chocks, but now it’s too early to start, you have to tolerate at least a year ...
            and what’s needed is not a revolt with war and killings, but for the correctional and legislative system to start working for the country and put those who don’t want to behave normally, no matter what nationality. Just now, the correctional court system is against the country. They are correcting it now. They will fix it, then within a couple of months they will close those who behave themselves unworthily. And no war! Because war is SCARY!
            I think so.
            1. +4
              9 July 2013 11: 49
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              Just now, the correctional court system is against the country. She is being corrected now.


              Do not bother to give a couple of examples of corrective actions? ... And then there’s nothing to see ...
            2. Tykta
              +2
              9 July 2013 13: 02
              What kind of war are you talking about? you talk a lot about the law, but in fact, do the guests respect our laws? they have relatives and money that help them in most cases to avoid punishment or to suffer a punishment disproportionately less than the harm that they caused. Sviridov, Agafonov, Mazharov - and how many more cases have not received wide publicity? Are they legally killing and maiming our guys? It is elementary to introduce the practice of a similar punishment, for mutilation - mutilation, for death - death.
        4. +13
          9 July 2013 09: 19
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ... Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking radical measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...

          You certainly endure if this is your life postulate.
          And we, at the "requests of the workers," periodically "play" in the towns.
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        5. +2
          9 July 2013 09: 23
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It is too early. Tolerate ...

          There will be no civil war. Nobody needs it. But you need to stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs. What hysteria, if this is the third case? We understand perfectly well that the cases of previous killings are closed or prolonged precisely for political and economic reasons (not in the subject) .People simply demand justice for everyone. Regardless of nationality and the amount of money. In large cities, this is not so obvious, but on the periphery everyone sees everything, knows everything and accumulates hatred.
          We have highlighted a huge problem, and we must solve it urgently.
          1. +4
            9 July 2013 09: 43
            Quote: domokl
            . But you need to stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs

            To stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs is simply to give an order and that’s it. One problem, who would give this order what
            Hi Sasha.
            1. -2
              9 July 2013 09: 49
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              To stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs is simply to give an order and that’s it.

              Hi Sash. Not easy. Order by order, but ... Watch a movie on any channel lol Everyone needs to eat. The police do not want a showdown (they will remove the boss). And the head of the clan guarantees it.
              1. +3
                9 July 2013 09: 52
                Quote: domokl
                The police do not want a showdown (they will remove the chief). And the head of the clan guarantees this.

                Then there will be more people going out into the streets. The inaction of some will push others to act. It always has been and never will be otherwise hi
                1. +5
                  9 July 2013 10: 07
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Then people going out into the streets will be getting bigger

                  So it is. People take to the streets more often. If earlier it was possible to somehow control and extinguish, now people are just tired of being afraid and believing in justice. That’s why I wrote about a big problem for the Russian government.
                  I just read the comments on the note about the elimination of the next bandit in Chechnya. And no one wrote that the Chechen police and security forces are great. But the fact that in response to the murder of the boy you need to destroy the bandits, yes.
                  Do you understand where the wind blows? That's the same thing. They are pushing us to national discord, to decay on a national basis.
                  1. +1
                    9 July 2013 11: 29
                    Quote: domokl
                    .We are being pushed to ethnic hatred, to disintegration along ethnic lines.

                    And who is doing this?
            2. Yarbay
              +7
              9 July 2013 09: 54
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              To stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs is simply to give an order and that’s it. One problem, who would give this order


              Remember Sanya, when Kolokoltsev was appointed Minister of the Interior, he said that he would first deal with ethnic criminal gangs!
              I was then surprised that why it was ethnic, why not with all the criminal gangs !!
              That is, the minister clearly knowing about the situation expressed the most painful topic !!
              So what has changed ??
              Where are the results of the struggle ??
              or was it a hint to these groups to pay a new roof?
              1. +3
                9 July 2013 11: 28
                Quote: Yarbay
                when Kolokoltsev was appointed Minister of the Interior, he stated

                Well, many of us just do what they say. Rogozin sculpts every day and what ???
                Quote: Yarbay
                Where are the results of the struggle ??

                On paper laughing
          2. +3
            9 July 2013 10: 53
            I agree with you completely. The main thing is not lynching, but forcing the authorities to fulfill their direct duties, it is time to remind them of the Constitution and their duties. And then they are used to stealing and not doing anything!
        6. mamba
          +22
          9 July 2013 09: 39
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          endure, wait, prepare ...
          I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...

          A strange mixture of masochism and naivety. Caucasians will never willingly live with us according to our rules. Isn't it easier for Putin to demand compliance with the law, regardless of the size of the wallet and hair color? Then the Caucasians will lose the desire to "test the strength" of local residents, which they love very much. But a little they will be pressed, the voyages of godfathers from the diasporas begin, complaints of oppression, hints of revenge. This is where Putin would show power, punish local officials and cops who cover the Caucasian thugs, imprison criminals from the Caucasus in accordance with the law, giving them real, or better, maximum terms in order to knock them off the arrogance generated by impunity and savagery, which was brought up in them from childhood.
          Caucasians should understand that a Russian bear breaks any Chechen wolf, and therefore biting a Russian bear is more expensive for itself. But Putin, if he wants to stay in power longer, must understand that the patience of the people is not unlimited. But, judging by the domestic politics in the country, it seems that he has not yet thought about this topic. And it's high time!
        7. +7
          9 July 2013 09: 59
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          therefore we endure, wait, prepare.

          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It is too early. Tolerate ...

          Tolerate PATTERN .......
          What else can you hear from those kneeling before Putin's "genius"?
          1. -7
            9 July 2013 10: 55
            Quote: baltika-18

            Tolerate PATTERN .......
            What else can you hear from those kneeling before Putin's "genius"?

            And what you need to rush headlong into the civil war? Are you not afraid to lose your country? I'm afraid. Therefore, I believe that it is impossible. Such zeal as yours will not lead to anything good.
            1. +15
              9 July 2013 11: 53
              Quote: Manager
              Are you not afraid to lose your country? I'm afraid


              I, too, am afraid of losing my country, and therefore with pain I see how the government simply GIVES my country to the Islamists. Slowly, calmly, busily gives, spitting on all the protests. The Russians are destined for what you preach here - BEAT!
          2. Yarbay
            0
            9 July 2013 16: 37
            Quote: baltika-18
            Tolerate PATTERN .......
            What else can you hear from those kneeling before Putin's "genius"?

            Or maybe the victim got a little boy ????
        8. +17
          9 July 2013 11: 46
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking drastic measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people.


          The situation has long been such that Russian people must be protected from the aggression of these freaks.

          The Russian World has always accepted foreigners into itself, preserving their national identity. In the Russian Empire, not a single nation died, did not assimilate, and preserved its language and culture. Now the reverse process is happening - everything is aimed at wiping out the Russian World, the Russian nation, and Russian culture.
          The Islamization of Russia is purposeful and aggressive, and is being implemented by the current government of Russia ... And you say, be patient? This is what they need - be patient, Russians, until we completely fill your country, until we become a majority and turn you into slaves in our own land ...
        9. -1
          9 July 2013 14: 44
          I support the idea that everything is not without reason. Indeed, a bit of a fight, which immediately hysteria with nationalism.
        10. 0
          9 July 2013 14: 57
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          This whole scandal was created for one purpose - to start a civil war with a result not in our favor. That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms in order to turn popular anger into revolution. In the hope that the chocks in this case will also rise and the Syrian scenario will begin. And all this is being done very actively in the last 6-7 years. Just after the statement in 2004, when Putin at the UN assembly openly called the amers invaders and called on all countries to disobey the will of the State Department ...
          America has already tried all sorts of tricks, while the chocks themselves are defiant, but now you can’t organize a war to force these chocks to peace. Now the country has just begun positive changes, we need to have time to do a lot, gain strength, gain sovereignty, teach the media to tell the truth and not fried, frivolous things, to expel American agents and saboteurs from all the vital organs of the country.
          and after that the time will come for forcing our chocks to peace ...
          therefore we endure, wait, prepare ...
          I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...
          Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking drastic measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...


          you’re right, but it’s impossible to hush up the problem anymore,
          Starikov’s air defense will now campaign for the return of the columns of nationality to our passepartout and the recognition of the Russian state-forming nation.
        11. Misantrop
          0
          9 July 2013 15: 51
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...

          With what joy would they need to learn and abide by ALIEN rules for them if they spit on their own? SAMO never does anything
      5. +24
        9 July 2013 09: 03
        Russians, instead of kneading Caucasians, knead each other (cops-citizens).
        Cops, in turn, instead of having to pile on guests, pile on their compatriots.
        The question is, what kind of prestige of the police (police) are we talking about when the police do not understand which side ???
        1. strange and pretty meaningless
          +5
          9 July 2013 09: 17
          Yes, the fact of the matter is that the disclaimer state has withdrawn from all obligations. The corporate party serves only itself. Let the natives survive as they know how. Household mochilovo - excellent! - and spectacular, and a drain of emotions.
        2. Yarbay
          +11
          9 July 2013 09: 17
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Cops, in turn, instead of heaping guests, pile on their compatriots

          Sanya cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS, not * ours * or * yours * !!
          1. +10
            9 July 2013 09: 44
            Quote: Yarbay
            cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS,

            Alibek, between the fact that the cops MUST and the fact that they MAKE a big chasm hi
            1. 12061973
              +3
              9 July 2013 11: 24
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Alibek, between the fact that the cops MUST and the fact that they MAKE a big chasm

              everyone found out about this incident, so that the cops are afraid to take money, they will put the pretzel for 8 years, in the zone he will meet his brothers wisely and leave 25 years old when he leaves for the forest, the circle is closed. The Ingush who was sitting in eburg for the Neva Express in prison was killed.
              1. 0
                9 July 2013 16: 49
                And in the woods it all the same banged. Maybe right then, without waiting for the forest?
            2. +3
              9 July 2013 17: 57
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS, not * our * or * yours * !!

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              , between the fact that the cops SHOULD and the fact that they MAKE a big gulf

              Hi guys hi In the 90s, when the ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs changed like socks, we in St. Petersburg were lying around indiscriminately - who deserved it and got wassat The tops were not up to us, and we all twisted ourselves as we could. We rarely succeeded in planting someone, but bulls of all stripes raked in full
          2. w.ebdo.g
            +1
            9 July 2013 09: 48
            Yarbay cops should wallow CRIMINALS, not * ours * or * yours * !!

            gold words! very true and right said. But the judicial system has been bloodless for 20 years, respectable judges and investigators have been squeezed out of it, and the normal ones in a minority. Now there is a systematic reorganization of this system. It takes time, at least a year ...
            then the correctional system will begin to act in the interests of the state.
            1. +6
              9 July 2013 10: 12
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              But the judicial system has been bloodless for 20 years, respectable judges and investigators have been squeezed out of it,

              I didn’t understand something. Putin launched a reform of the judicial system in 2006. A target program for 2007-2011 was approved, a lot of money was allocated. Now 2013 actually.
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              It takes time, at least a year ...

              And what should happen this year, all judges will become honest?
              And besides, another program was approved 2013-2020 and again the money has been allocated.
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              then the correctional system will begin to act in the interests of the state.

              And now she acts in the interests of the authorities, but not of the people.
            2. Yarbay
              +7
              9 July 2013 10: 20
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              It takes time, at least a year ...

              who needs time ???
              Since nothing has been done, nothing has been done!
              1. w.ebdo.g
                -5
                9 July 2013 10: 55
                Yarbay, all you have to do is DO. It’s just that you’re not personally reported)))
                the president and his team are trying to regain sovereignty to the country. Now you can’t be distracted by riots with the Chechens ...
                the stakes are too high. You can win the battle, but lose the whole war for the sovereignty of the state.
                WAR is very scary and expensive for any state. And civilian is meaner and more destructive than any other.
                I think so.
                1. Yarbay
                  +8
                  9 July 2013 11: 05
                  Quote: w.ebdo.g
                  Yarbay, all you have to do is DO. It’s just that you’re not personally reported)))

                  Yes, I do not need to report!
                  I am not blind and I see perfectly that nothing has been done and is not being done!
                  When patience is bursting with the people, they immediately ask that they say give time, give a year, and we will fix everything !!
                  Normal divorce !!
                  1. dmb
                    +2
                    9 July 2013 13: 39
                    Greetings to Alibek. Personally, I have a feeling that your interlocutor was already listed on the site in the past. In style and rhetoric, it is very similar to the citizen "Konyashkin-lamp-bearer" or "Zheku-electric". Indeed, apart from the slogans about "Timur and his team," he does not give any arguments, apparently due to their "secrecy" or absence.
                    1. Yarbay
                      +1
                      9 July 2013 13: 55
                      Quote: dmb
                      Greetings to Alibek. Personally, I have a feeling that your interlocutor was already listed on the site in the past. In style and rhetoric it is very similar to the citizen "Konyashkin the lamp-bearer" or "Zheku-electric"


                      Hi Dmitry!
                      I already wrote here that the writing style is very similar to * trivolta *!
                      Apparently not only you and I noticed this!
                      It’s just really painful for me to see what they’re doing with your country!
                      Recently I was in Moscow, having read everything here, I was pleasantly surprised by the hospitality of the people!
                      True, one uncle in the subway resented why I was in a jacket in the summer and tried to provoke me))))) (The uncle was very drunk)
                      alas, it was not possible to stay for a long time !!)
                2. strange and pretty meaningless
                  +1
                  10 July 2013 02: 53
                  Quote: w.ebdo.g
                  Now you can’t be distracted by riots with the Chechens ...
                  the stakes are too high.

                  ... the second wave of privatization is underway, the "reform" of the RAS. Zae .. or already pro-Putin mystics. Everything WILL BE - wait for landing while we drain the fuel ...
            3. 0
              9 July 2013 10: 57
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              It takes time, at least a year ...

              You here in every comment write "At least go" .... Where are these terms from? Where such confidence? Write to us too. We are also interested!
              1. w.ebdo.g
                -9
                9 July 2013 11: 48
                Manager
                From where are these dates? Where such confidence?

                try to be aware of the events, take an interest in what is happening in the country not only from the yellow press, then this question will disappear by itself.
                Now there is an accelerated preparation of a popular speech for the sovereignty of the country. Painstaking preparation, it should happen next year, either at the beginning or in the middle. By this time, key posts should be cleared of agents of influence and malicious corrupt officials. The Ministry of Internal Affairs must undergo a global purge and replacement of leadership positions.
                They must have time to pass a number of legislative acts for the possibility of people speaking out for their sovereignty. The media are beginning to pump the idea that you need to go out at the right time, so that it becomes clear to everyone that the people are against acupation and want sovereignty in the country.
                And not 100 thousand, but 10 - 20 million people should leave.
                Two months ago, there were demonstrations in 100 cities of Russia that attracted at least 1 people for sovereignty. Have you heard anything? not? because the media is still under the acupuncture. And a million is not enough. Therefore, a big way out of people is being prepared now.
                Amers know about this and how they can force the national theme with the Chechens, so that everyone has no time for sovereignty, and to connect the activity of the masses with an internal war.

                What do you still not understand?

                Thanks for attention.
                1. 0
                  9 July 2013 12: 09
                  Quote: w.ebdo.g
                  What do you still not understand?


                  All clear. But again. Facts to the studio!
                  1. +4
                    9 July 2013 13: 40
                    [quote = Manager] Everything is clear. But again. Facts in the studio! [/ Quote]
                    Yes, he doesn’t have a damn thing.
                    All their factual material is a site "made by us", and the speeches of Zhenya Fedorov. [Quote = w.ebdo.g] The media is still under the auspices [/ quote
                    Yes, and Russian cobenite.
                    Ugh ...
            4. +7
              9 July 2013 11: 58
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              It takes time, at least a year ...


              And what will happen in a year? Not a single reform yields results for the year, unless, of course, this is a negative result ...
              For a year, the situation can only get worse, the diaspora to get stronger, organize, fill up with new people ...
              ... Any delay in resolving the issue only exacerbates the problem, drives it in, makes the subsequent solution more painful!
            5. strange and pretty meaningless
              +1
              10 July 2013 02: 49
              Fresh tradition - but hard to believe. I did not notice new faces in the judges. If you only master a soul transplant wassat
          3. +1
            9 July 2013 11: 12
            Quote: Yarbay
            Sanya cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS, not * ours * or * yours * !!

            As we have criminals, newly-minted police fool around, we know.
            If the criminal doesn't have a roof and doesn't have much money, that one is in the "cover".
            And if both are abundant (communications, money), I don’t want to go for a walk.
          4. strange and pretty meaningless
            +10
            9 July 2013 11: 44
            In Vlad, a few years ago, Judge Pavlov gave a ridiculous suspended sentence for murder. an Azeri on fuse in a traffic jam discharged a traumatic into the head of a pensioner. The diaspora bought off the family - but the wave began to rise. The judge was quietly shaken off to a well-deserved rest - estimate his pension, but the verdict remained in force. An article for making a knowingly unjust court decision DOES NOT WORK - the authorities openly declare this. Does it make sense in these conditions to "reform" the cops-policemen?
      6. sashka
        +5
        9 July 2013 09: 40
        Quote: Egorchik
        in any situation, the Russians remain extreme.

        There is a way out .. It is necessary to create a "diaspora" and settle all the problems in a simple way, over a glass of tea. Why is everyone allowed, but we are not allowed ??
        1. 12061973
          0
          9 July 2013 11: 14
          Quote: Sasha
          There is a way out .. It is necessary to create a "diaspora" and settle all the problems in a simple way, over a glass of tea. Why is everyone allowed, but we are not allowed ??

          Well, create a diaspora in Chechnya, there’s even a republican program to return the Russians, and we’ll see how it ends, but you’d better not be alive.
        2. Yarbay
          0
          9 July 2013 12: 20
          Quote: Sasha
          It is necessary to create the same "diaspora"

          Quote: abyrvalg
          The diaspora paid off from the family - but the wave began to rise

          Yes, what a diaspora do not grind nonsense!
          Just surely relatives were thrown off at best!
          1. strange and pretty meaningless
            +3
            9 July 2013 12: 52
            Do not get excited, dear, calmer. There is no fundamental difference. A family can be large. And very big. A conversation for the INACTIVITY of state authorities, through rotten justice. That's where the shoots of nationalism sprout. I’m on the drum that the diaspora itself may punish itself (maybe strictly) - but this is UNFair. This is UNDERSTANDING.
            As a counterargument against nationalism, I will cite another case - but we will do without surnames. Talk about Russia in the dashing 90s. In the county town A, a certain flower merchant orders a large batch of flowers in Azerbaijan. In Azerbaijan, there is a mediator who takes this party with borrowed money and forwards it to A. Trader (we will consider the titular nation - maybe democratic, I don’t know) sell flowers. But he is not in a hurry to return the money. The family of a mediator at home - and in Azerbaijan also the dashing 90s - is taken hostage. Tearful negotiations with the merchant follow - to no avail. The child of the intermediary is being killed. He buys the last penny the old TTshnik, goes to the city of A. - and before the eyes of his grandson, a business shift fells. Such is the story. Everyone understood everything - the national question did not come up (I simplify - but they understood the idea).
            So here it is not necessary to go over to the individual - but to mature into the root of evil. Where do legs grow from - and who sows the seeds? They would have taken this Chechen "surgeon" - and punished demonstratively. Not symbolically - but FAIRLY. In the name of the Russian Federation. Then you can go further without looking back. In the meantime, all this fuss is extinguished the privatization of science and state property. Yes, Snowdens and Chapmans are on Twitter.
            1. Yarbay
              -1
              9 July 2013 13: 39
              Quote: abyrvalg
              A family can be large.

              and what does * diaspora * ??
              I do not know a more incomprehensible organization and not organized!
              Quote: abyrvalg
              Tearful negotiations with the merchant follow - to no avail. The child of the intermediary is killed

              I do not believe!!
              Quote: abyrvalg
              So here it is not necessary to go over to personality - but to mature into the root of evil
              Where did I get personal?
              Quote: abyrvalg
              They would have taken this Chechen "surgeon" - and punished demonstratively. Not symbolically - but FAIRLY.

              here again write a lie !!
              That the killer of Sviridov’s fan was not punished by JUSTICE or by the LAW ???
              Hundreds of Caucasians criminals are in prison and imprisoned for long periods !!
              Who besides Mirzaev was kept in jail for his crime so much ??
              1. strange and pretty meaningless
                0
                9 July 2013 14: 26
                Quote: Yarbay
                I do not believe!!

                Your case - the Ubopovs told me this story, then there were UBOPs in each district department.
                Quote: Yarbay
                Where did I get personal?

                Quote: Yarbay
                here again write a lie !! That the murderer of a fan of Sviridov was not punished by JUSTICE and not by the LAW ???
                Hundreds of Caucasians criminals are in prison and imprisoned for long periods !!
                Who besides Mirzaev was kept in jail for his crime so much ??

                My dear friend, don't get frustrated. You are answering unasked questions. I did not understand the cases listed by you. There are many such cases - there are all sorts of examples. Speech about the work of the state machine "justice" - which is not true? I - about the right "to the left". The national question is not the point here. You can commit a crime and not get punished, but you can, on the contrary, be punished for a crime that did not exist. When, against the background of the landing of Kvachkov (term of 13 years), Mr. Serdyukov and Sir Gozman are working for Mr. Chubais, and they are preparing Rusnano for "privatization," then questions arise for Mr. Putin. Here is the main point. You may think that I moved to offtopic - but this very much touches the topic of the article.
                1. Yarbay
                  +1
                  9 July 2013 14: 46
                  Quote: abyrvalg
                  Your case - the Ubopovs told me this story, then there were UBOPs in each district department.

                  then lie!
                  I know well the methods of our gangsters!
                  They wouldn’t have killed a child for this, but would have come and milked such a businessman with your local people, especially at 90!
                  Fictional story!
                  Quote: abyrvalg
                  Kind, don't break

                  why do you think so???!!!
                  Yes, I do not break))) I am completely calm !!
                  Quote: abyrvalg
                  Speech about the work of the state machine "justice" - which is not true? I - about the right "to the left"

                  I completely agree with this !!
                  So what to do??
                  I do not see the prerequisites that in the coming years something has changed for the better in this direction !!
                  1. strange and pretty meaningless
                    +2
                    9 July 2013 15: 55
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    ... and they would come and milk such a businessman with your local people, especially in 90 years!
                    Fictional story!

                    Regarding events in the city of A., I vouch personally. I didn’t see what happened in Azerbaijan, but you must agree that it’s impossible to do such a thing. Even in the dashing 90s. In terms of the association of bandits - hardly - not on that scale, large distances (over 9000 laughing km) and intercultural "contradictions".

                    Quote: Yarbay
                    I do not see the prerequisites that in the coming years something has changed for the better in this direction !!
                    request How to know, how to know ...
                    And by the way, quite a lot of Azerbaijanis walked with me on the ship in the Kuril Islands. In general, quite adequate men. I saw your flag drinks
                    1. Yarbay
                      +1
                      9 July 2013 16: 27
                      Quote: abyrvalg
                      As regards the unification of bandits - it is hardly - not the same scale, long distances (over 9000 km) and intercultural "contradictions".

                      For this, in Russia in big cities * decision-makers * sat who gladly took such a percentage of the case, so there was no need to go anywhere !!
                      often then they threw everyone!
                      Quote: abyrvalg
                      I saw your flag

                      In my opinion they did not make out)))))))))))))))))
                      Here he is Turkish, although he guessed it, the roofing felts are poorly understood, or they found out in another way))))))))))
                      1. strange and pretty meaningless
                        +1
                        9 July 2013 16: 38
                        Yes, I see that Turkish hi . You yourself write: I know well the methods of our gangsters! Here I am - by the totality of signs. laughing
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        who gladly took such interest

                        Now these are state-building elements ...
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        then they threw everyone!

                        And nothing has changed. And in that case, it was decided like that.
                      2. Yarbay
                        0
                        9 July 2013 16: 45
                        Quote: abyrvalg
                        Here I am - by the totality of signs

                        So they used the deductive method, and did not look at it !!)))
                        And you are a dangerous person!))
                        Good luck to you!
        3. +4
          9 July 2013 15: 46
          Quote: Sasha
          There is a way out .. It is necessary to create a "diaspora" and settle all the problems in a simple way, over a glass of tea. Why is everyone allowed, but we are not allowed ??

          I already wrote here about these diasporas, what they do, who they have in their leaders and believe with whose people their interests are, they seem to represent they are not particularly interested, as well as representatives of the people to deeply sneeze on them.
          These diasporas are too exaggerated due to stupid stereotypes served through the media.
      7. +3
        9 July 2013 12: 10
        Get up the Huge Country, Get up on Mortal Kombat, with the impudent Chur power dark, with the damned horde !!!!
      8. 0
        9 July 2013 13: 04
        the power you have done well poor life low salary big inflation killed someone or else it's not our fault it's Chechens atu them
        Quote: Egorchik
        Well done, I absolutely agree, the authorities are already crossing all borders covering these freaks, and in any situation the Russians remain extreme.
      9. Troitsky
        0
        9 July 2013 14: 59
        As far as I know, the criminal was soldered for 10 years, and the relatives of the deceased were given 500 thousand rubles.
      10. 0
        9 July 2013 21: 29
        Quote: Egorchik
        in any situation, the Russians remain extreme.

        The paradox is that calling yourself Russian in this situation is practically impossible - the authorities immediately rank you among nationalists
      11. 0
        10 July 2013 16: 45
        Mister President, return the death penalty to the Country so that both Chechens, Russians and other non-Russians know that if you have a scalpel in your pocket (any other weapon that can be killed) and if you kill someone with it, you will get it yourself tower! And believe me, there will be fewer deaths, fewer! The brain will still turn on in some representatives of our society! And so now we have a real legalized Anarchy in our country !!! "I will kill and nothing will happen to me!" Those terms that give, except for rare cases of life sentences, are nothing compared to the grief of the relatives of the dead people! Think, please, while the people still believe you!
      12. 0
        10 July 2013 16: 52
        And what do you want from the bandits ??? Tricks of extortion and disassembly. How many Osarat officials wrote? One Lysenko is judged, and others .... And Ipatov ?? He quietly served two terms in the governorship ... The city as a garbage dump was broken ... True, recently they began to actively clean up the city .... Although for the second week we sit without hot water in such heat ...
  2. +23
    9 July 2013 08: 04
    The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.
    1. +9
      9 July 2013 08: 38
      Quote: Edward72
      The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.

      the lawlessness of some breeds terror of others
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    3. sashka
      +4
      9 July 2013 10: 54
      Quote: Edward72
      The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.

      Don’t get so excited .. We have a government, a thought, and of course a president .. They worry about you. They don’t sleep at night. I eat a sandwich in the morning and I think, but how are the people? About slaves in the galleys, it’s so clear .. Then what?
  3. Boot under the carpet
    +6
    9 July 2013 08: 06
    These "friends" themselves incite ethnic hatred, and then they cry the most! Sorry for the boy, only 20 years old ...
    1. w.ebdo.g
      -15
      9 July 2013 09: 52
      among the lumps there are special provocateurs who are even ready to go to jail, but to complete the assigned task, especially in the area where everything is already ready for a riot. People "got", the correspondents are at the ready, the cops are inactive, here's a riot for you!
      do not succumb to provocations. There will still be time to restore order. But if you start a war now, then there will be no time ...
      Tolerate and getting ready ...
      I think so.
      1. +2
        9 July 2013 10: 16
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        Tolerate and getting ready ...

        Something you have the cutest masochistic tendencies appear.
        And by the way, what to prepare for?
        You all somehow foggy up.
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          9 July 2013 10: 25
          Quote: baltika-18
          Something you have the cutest masochistic tendencies appear.
          And by the way, what to prepare for?
          You all somehow foggy up.

          ))))))))))))))))))))
          Something he told me * of trivalt * reminded))))))))))))
          1. 0
            9 July 2013 11: 14
            Quote: Yarbay
            Something he told me * of trivalt * reminded))))))))))))

            Yeah....
            Associations, Alibek, not one of you.
      2. mamba
        +4
        9 July 2013 10: 16
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        There will still be time to restore order. But if you start a war now, then there will be no time ...

        Order must be established here and now, and not wait for the "green whistle" from the Kremlin. No one is going to start a war, the people demand from the authorities to observe the law equally for everyone. The level of these requirements is proportional to the tension in the given place. Our cowardly local authorities begin to react only to mass demonstrations of indignant citizens, especially after a call from Moscow, how, they say, did you allow this? The main incentive for local officials is rocking the chair under them, and this process is possible both from above and from below.
        1. w.ebdo.g
          -3
          9 July 2013 10: 59
          mamba, I need to put things in order, I agree, but those who have to put things in order should also be organized and cleaned out of their ranks of freaks that act to the detriment of the state.
          Then you can put things in order with them (the police). And it takes time to restore order in the judicial system.
          If you start "putting things in order" now, there will be war.
          If everything is done systematically, there will be order without war.
          What do you like more?
          you decide what you need more war or order?
          1. +2
            9 July 2013 11: 11
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            If you start "putting things in order" now, there will be war.

            What the hell is war?
            1. w.ebdo.g
              -6
              9 July 2013 11: 55
              What the hell is war?

              same as in Syria ...
              and you, what not vkurse?))))
              there is a war there and it began in exactly the same way, with a feud between the two nationalities. The technologies are the same, and the result may be the same, if we now go on about the United States.
              Syria is in chaos. This is exactly what I do not want. What is war, I personally know, and many on the website only saw it on TV and played airsoft counter)))
              Thanks for attention.
              kill in war ...
              1. +8
                9 July 2013 12: 20
                Quote: w.ebdo.g
                What is war, I personally know

                And why did you decide that I do not know?

                But there will be no war, there will be an analogue of "St. Bartholomew's Night". Russian revolt, senseless and merciless (s)
                And the authorities and the diasporas have long had to think about this. Bursts of anger occur more and more often. And the quantity can turn into quality.
                1. +9
                  9 July 2013 12: 55
                  Merciless - yes. Meaningless - never. Do not consider Russian fools.
                  1. +1
                    10 July 2013 02: 25
                    Do not consider Russian fools.
                    some who cannot see thought in the quote (c) of Pushkin. thereby hinting that Pushkin considered Russian fools ..?
                    “Do not bring God to see the Russian rebellion - meaningless and merciless. Those who plan impossible coups in our country are either young and do not know our people, or people who are cruel, who have someone else’s head in the middle, and even their own penny. ”
              2. +1
                10 July 2013 02: 17
                What is war, I personally know

                judging by the fact that you have uploaded the second photo (from the movie "War" by Balabanov), it is clear how you know)
          2. mamba
            +5
            9 July 2013 11: 50
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            those who should restore order should also be organized and cleaned out of their ranks of freaks who act to the detriment of the state. Then you can restore order with their (police) help.

            If the implementation of the "reform" in the militia boiled down only to changing the name and expelling from its ranks those who were objectionable to the authorities, then we will never wait for the establishment of order in this structure, which is now only engaged in making money. Who prevented Putin the prime minister and Putin the president from carrying out a normal reform? The same applies to the judicial system and the prosecutor's office.
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            And it takes time to restore order in the judicial system.

            Time passes, but "things are still there."
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            If you start "putting things in order" now, there will be war.

            Those. if Putin begins to restore order among his officials of all stripes, then will they start the war? Hard to believe.
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            If everything is done systematically, there will be order without war.
            What do you like more?
            you decide what you need more war or order?

            I made up my mind a long time ago and wrote in my previous posts in this thread, but I'm ready to repeat once again: we need to quickly "build" officials, show them that they are not local princelings who are outrageous, but just service people who must listen to the people with one ear and the others - the Kremlin. Severely punish them for embezzling the budget, skimping on their duties, ignoring the needs of the people. This does not require a lot of time and long waiting for the result. Everything can be done quickly and without war, which you constantly frighten us with. Order without war! There would only be a desire. But it seems that the vertical of power was not created for this ...
      3. Tykta
        -2
        9 July 2013 11: 10
        TERPILA READY
      4. +1
        9 July 2013 16: 57
        Tolerate and getting ready ...


        No, it's better - SMILING and MASH.
        Do you seriously write all THIS, or is it a banter?
  4. +19
    9 July 2013 08: 06
    He also urged the residents of Pugachev to remain calm. What the hell was that, repeat offenders appeared, why calm down here, with the inaction of the local government! am
  5. waisson
    +1
    9 July 2013 08: 11

    Residents of the city near Saratov first surrounded the local administration building, and then tried to block the federal highway.

    In the city of Pugachev, Saratov Region, where 6-year-old paratrooper Ruslan Marzhanov was killed on the night of July 20, local residents staged a mass protest.

    Thus, people tried to express their dissatisfaction with the sluggish, in their opinion, reaction of the authorities to the high-profile crime. They considered that the 17-year-old killer of the former paratrooper could escape a well-deserved punishment, took to the streets and demanded justice.

    People gathered on the central square of the city right under the windows of the Pugachev administration building. The head of the city Stanislav Sidorov came out to the audience. But the conversation went wrong from the very beginning.

    Several young people attacked the head of the Pugachev administration, dousing him with water from a bottle. After that, a group of activists tried to break into the administration building, taking it by storm. The police arrived in time to defend the city hall.

    However, the dispersed crowd, demanding the restoration of justice, decided to change the location and went towards the federal highway. There, several dozen young people, standing in a living chain, completely blocked the movement. After some time, law enforcement officials managed to push people off the roadway.

    Let us remind you that the attack on the former paratrooper Ruslan Marzhanov was made in Pugachev a few days ago near the Zolotaya Bochka cafe. Bystanders found the bleeding boy and called an ambulance. Ruslan Marzhanov died in hospital from numerous stab wounds, never regaining consciousness.

    After that, a mass brawl took place on one of the city streets with natives of Chechnya, who, according to unofficial data, stood up for their comrade detained on suspicion of the murder of Ruslan Marzhanov.

    Officials of the Ministry of Internal Affairs denied the fact of a brawl, but a day later a riot broke out in the city.

    About 600 people took to the central square in an attempt to publicize the incident. At the moment, police officers are working on the spot, trying to prevent riots.
  6. Lech from ZATULINKI
    +37
    9 July 2013 08: 12
    Notice a young Chechen came to the CAFE GOLDEN Keg with a scalpel - that is, HE ADVISED IN ADVANCE TO USE IT.

    Honestly, Chechens are associated with potential bandits in my life - when they see a Russian person, their youth do not miss the opportunity to humiliate him (a demonstration of base instincts by these people only humiliates the CHECHEN PEOPLE and creates a negative opinion about him).

    Kadyrov should do more to educate his young thugs.
    1. +16
      9 July 2013 08: 16
      What is such a pop and parish. Conclusions on the face.
    2. +12
      9 July 2013 08: 18
      Kadyrov should do more to educate his young thugs.

      He is busy with education. We see the results. Kadyrov’s new army will soon be ready for action throughout Russia, and then blood will flow. Everything is as planned.
      1. +1
        9 July 2013 09: 09
        Quote: erased
        Kadyrov’s new army will soon be ready for action throughout Russia, and then blood will flow. Everything is as planned.

        And where is this army? At least you don’t write crap, just to blurt out.
        1. +7
          9 July 2013 11: 02
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And where is this army?

          Romanovich, hello!
          There is truth in her words. Look how many of them came. There are already more of them than indigenous people. Do you really think that if they are given a command from the top "take the country and live as masters" they will not do it. Army doesn't always look "Classic"
      2. 0
        9 July 2013 09: 24
        ... blood will flow ... Maybe it will, but not Slavs !!! Do not wake famously, while quiet, this is an appeal to everyone !!! am
        1. -1
          9 July 2013 11: 03
          Quote: KILLAvolt
          ... blood will flow ... Maybe it will, but not Slavs !!! Do not wake famously, while quiet, this is an appeal to everyone !!!


          Already not all Slavs are like that. 50% is either drunks or those that do not get out of the computer monitor ....
          1. +1
            9 July 2013 11: 13
            Why not 99%
    3. +5
      9 July 2013 08: 22
      Hello everyone! It's a pity for the guy, it's just some kind of p..ts, it shouldn't be like that, we're not at war. Here are Caucasians + those who "serve" the law - lawyers, prosecutors, judges and ordinary police officers who keep order, have taught locals in almost all regions not to like Caucasians for their behavior and not to trust lawyers, prosecutors, judges and ordinary policemen for that much is forgiven to Caucasians.
  7. +21
    9 July 2013 08: 16
    The information about what is happening in Pugachev is too contradictory, but simply because of the murder such unrest will not occur most likely this was the last straw that overwhelmed the patience of people, it seems the Chechens there began to establish their rules for a long time with the complete connivance of the authorities!
  8. Muxauk
    +2
    9 July 2013 08: 18
    you don’t have to cut everyone out, you need a tough state policy, or the people will soon do everything themselves. all back to Chechnya, there they will not let them get too impudent
  9. +8
    9 July 2013 08: 21
    I read an article by M. Delyagin about Belgorod "In normal Russia" in the Free Press. There are no such problems, just the authorities are doing their job. It is possible that it is embellished, but it is described authentically. It turns out that many complex problems can be solved simply - everyone does their own thing.

    And we forgot that the authorities are our servants and should work for us. And they are crazy about impunity.
  10. +13
    9 July 2013 08: 21
    This is to be expected. Young natives of the Caucasus have no sense of self-preservation at all, and they are ready to test the patience of the local population again and again. And their older compatriots, instead of restraining their youth, begin "congresses of the peoples of Russia" to gather and demand from the state "the fight against xenophobia."
    Therefore, as I think, this is not the last case of this kind.
    1. +5
      9 July 2013 09: 18
      Quote: Spade
      Therefore, as I think, this is not the last case of this kind

      And all this is just beginning. Social tension is increasing. For certain circles, then it only remains to direct the anger in the right direction ... And blaze big ...
      Caucasians do not behave as they want, but as they allow. And corruption only contributes to this.
      The incident was right next to the Dynamo shooting gallery. 12-13 years have passed. a couple of Caucasians didn’t share something with the Russian (I don’t remember what). They yelled, fled, and returned back with 5 children of the mountains. The battle was not only because the guys came out of the shooting range ... with small things. And a couple of sharpenings against four small caliber ones - not really ...
      1. +1
        9 July 2013 09: 23
        Quote: Bronis
        Caucasians do not behave as they want, but as they allow. And corruption only contributes to this.

        They don’t understand that you can buy an official, but you can’t buy a crowd?
        1. +1
          9 July 2013 10: 48
          Quote: Spade
          They don’t understand that you can buy an official, but you can’t buy a crowd?
          Those who cut people with a scalpel or rams in the middle of Moscow think little. The blood is hot. Often, even their elders (among them there are quite adequate, worthy people) cannot reason them.
          But about the crowd ... it can be provoked and organized. It is not difficult if there is money, a small group of trained people and social stress. You yourself have seen everything recently ... righteous anger can always be used
          1. +2
            9 July 2013 11: 09
            Quote: Bronis
            Those who cut people with a scalpel or rams in the middle of Moscow think little. The blood is hot.

            And their older tribesmen? After all, I know very many, very adequate men. And then some collective blindness attacked them.

            Quote: Bronis
            Often, even their elders (among them there are quite adequate, worthy people) cannot reason them.

            Here you are absolutely wrong.

            Quote: Bronis
            But about the crowd ... it can be provoked and organized. It is not difficult if there is money, a small group of trained people and social stress. You yourself have seen everything recently ... righteous anger can always be used

            A reasonable question arises: is our power adequate?
            1. +2
              9 July 2013 11: 39
              Power is not something indirect, but a very specific system based on the principle of hierarchy and consisting of people. An official is not a separate biological species ... So the adequacy of power lies in the adequacy of people and the general degree of adequacy of society. The world has gone mad, the rest is the consequences.
              Quote: Spade
              Often, even their elders (among them there are quite adequate, worthy people) cannot reason them.
              Here you are absolutely wrong.
              Personally, I know two veterans of the Second World War worthy grandfathers. Ingush and Dagestan. One after the war he taught, the other on the collective farm all his life ... one in the deportation after the war lived a victorious warrior. But nothing, no malice. They are extremely negative to those antics. Reason as they can authority. youth eyes down, they say yes, I'm sorry. and then back. In general, the traditional way of life is preserved, but also it began to collapse ...
              The problem is that our "party policy" has changed. We felt permissiveness. so they are satisfied ... well, and from behind the hill they actively helped.
              Well, the feeling of fraternity - screwed up, but mine.
  11. +3
    9 July 2013 08: 25
    Well, until calm, sat out. The prosecutor's office, court, administration to the answer. And then it’s like that, murder after murder and no one is punished, it smells, no, it stinks of corruption and bribery from all this.
  12. +8
    9 July 2013 08: 26
    Yesterday, I read a lot of information on this event on the Internet, and official media sources, including TV, as always keep silent about the problem, saying that there is no such problem in our DATE Corovstvo, everything is fine with us.
    1. consul
      0
      9 July 2013 18: 31
      http://vk.com/vkpugachev -группа пугачевцев в контакте,там жители города отписываются с фото
  13. +4
    9 July 2013 08: 26
    Good! If a minor has a scalpel (not even a knife), this is a complete finish! Is it time to start acting in this direction very actively and explain to hot "surgeons", or were only skins effective? It's time to stop this knife chaos, otherwise it will blaze on a much larger scale! People are not rams !!
  14. diesel
    +2
    9 July 2013 08: 26
    Our government generously pays for everything with Russian lives, including for the civilian world, maybe enough? It's time to remind them all of this in the next election, just do not forget.
  15. ed1968
    +2
    9 July 2013 08: 27
    eye for eye tooth for tooth Caucasian monkeys angry they don’t even imagine how terrible and merciless the Russian riot is. the only thing that surprises the victim was the former paratrooper belay really the guy who served the landing could not stuff the scalpel in the ass with the beast? my condolences to the relatives of the deceased
    1. +5
      9 July 2013 08: 32
      In one of the articles yesterday I read that "No. Beast" acted out of slyness, some of the witnesses saw the conflict, it is quite possible that he hit from behind hit the artery and therefore the guy died so quickly .... By the way, a friend's son served in a special forces brigade in Tambov, he said that hand-to-hand combat was not taught, they say it provokes hazing ...
      1. A-50
        +4
        9 July 2013 09: 11
        Quote: Cyril7377
        By the way, my friend’s son served in a special forces brigade in Tambov, he said that they didn’t teach hand-to-hand combat, that he provokes unregulated relationships ...

        I heard the same thing from the tof (lackey) on Fr. Russian - no hand-to-hand training, diving is practically not taught. Yes, and what to teach in a year.
      2. RA77
        +2
        9 July 2013 09: 26
        Quote: Cyril7377
        it is possible that the hit from behind got into the artery and therefore the guy died so quickly

        What kind of nonsense are you talking about? It is written, "multiple stab-cut wounds of the chest", from which "the victim died in a medical institution."

        Quote: Cyril7377
        He said that they didn’t teach hand-to-hand combat, saying that he provokes erratic relationships

        If you don’t know, you’d better just shut up, please. I beg you very much!
    2. Nevsky
      +1
      9 July 2013 08: 47
      Quote: ed1968
      eye for eye tooth for tooth Caucasian monkeys angry they don’t even imagine how terrible and merciless the Russian riot is. the only thing that surprises the victim was the former paratrooper belay really the guy who served the landing could not stuff the scalpel in the ass with the beast? my condolences to the relatives of the deceased
      .

      He beat that kid. He was simply cold-blooded and unexpectedly abrupt movement ... in general google ... insulting ...
  16. mogus
    +2
    9 July 2013 08: 29
    can not be trained
    Put the commas yourself ...
    1. mogus
      +4
      9 July 2013 08: 47
      not the first time the killer tried
      1. 0
        9 July 2013 09: 55
        Instead of "evicting" the brain perceives "lynching" ........
      2. +7
        9 July 2013 11: 21
        And well done man, who splashed water in the bureaucrat's face.
        1. mogus
          +2
          9 July 2013 11: 42
          if in the future they will also not notice ... maybe it will reach LVZH ...
        2. MG42
          +1
          9 July 2013 21: 54
          But the sense, he just freshened up in the heat ..
      3. MG42
        +2
        9 July 2013 21: 42
        Let's add a video from the scene >>>
  17. +8
    9 July 2013 08: 30
    To cut the forest with a jigsaw on Kalyma - although I mean, this is inciting ethnic hatred. And this podoka, even if convicted, will be sent to the penitentiary complex of Chechnya where he will be released on parole in a week, as has been done more than once. The gentlemen from the government will wait for the lynching of the coves.
  18. diesel
    +4
    9 July 2013 08: 30
    Quote: Jura

    Yura


    Today, 08: 25

    ↓ New


    Well, until calm, sat out. The prosecutor's office, court, administration to the answer

    The prosecutor's office is busy in the casino. The deputy prosecutor of the Moscow region was released from the prison, probably his and his fellows took bail.
  19. 12061973
    +19
    9 July 2013 08: 31
    which is typical of the Russians with the demand to evict the Chechens, the local Tatars joined, apparently they got everyone, in spite of Islam, a hole from the donut, and not the caliphate.
    1. +8
      9 July 2013 08: 40
      Ruslan Mozhaev, as it were, is most likely a Tatar. So they joined. And before, it means they did not see or hear anything.
      1. RA77
        +3
        9 July 2013 09: 38
        And who is Ruslan Mozhaev? If you are talking about who you killed, then his name was Ruslan Marzhanov.
        1. +3
          9 July 2013 11: 08
          Wrong with a surname. But the essence is the same - the surname is clearly not Russian but Tatar.
  20. +23
    9 July 2013 08: 35
    For some reason I think that not one Chechen killed the paratrooper from here and the excitement. And as always they hang noodles for us. And the main reason is that the Russians are generally inert or even cowardly up to a certain point - how many times did he make sure of this in the SA when he fought with Caucasians and no one came to the rescue and in civilian life when one made a remark to the southern guests and the rest sat and did it seems that nothing is happening, but the southern guests immediately formed a crowd. That is why so? Is my hut on the edge? Why are we seeing rudeness happening lawlessness and stuff pass by ?? This is where ALL of our troubles come from. Of course, when we begin to exterminate, we show, but before that, what? That cut one by one.
  21. +3
    9 July 2013 08: 36
    The fact that the authorities do not know (do not want) and do not understand how to solve urgent international problems, improve the national well-being of Russians is a fact. But in such situations, I always have the question: What if a Russian killed a Russian? Who would be to blame? Who needs to be pulled up? Would there be the same resonance?
    People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished
    Who works in the investigative committee? At the prosecutor’s office? Ships?
    Chechens?
  22. Yarbay
    -17
    9 July 2013 08: 37
    ethnic hatred again kindled !!
    Why no one resents this crime!
    *** - First, I beat him. Then he went for a knife and an ax ... And cut off his head, - a video of this confession went around all the TV channels and the Internet. A young man named Nikita tells how in a drunken stupor he killed a man. On the night of June 24, in the courtyard of the house, he and four other friends were drinking, celebrating graduation. The next morning, a headless body was found nearby. Bloody traces led right into Nikita's apartment. A guy waking up in a hangover delirium did not begin to unlock. It turned out that he not only chopped off the head of a still living person, but took off the scalp, cut off his ears, nose, gouged out his eyes ... He even kicked her on the ground, imitating football feints. Friends did not stop the scumbag ... They stunnedly watched the execution, and then fled. At least now they say so. ***
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26101/2998243/?cp=2

    Because the Russian killers ??
    1. 0
      9 July 2013 08: 57
      Do you really think this all happened because of one murder?
      1. Yarbay
        -10
        9 July 2013 09: 07
        Quote: Spade
        Do you really think this all happened because of one murder?

        So this is not the first time !!
        If a Russian is killed, and a newcomer killer starts here at everyone * waking up * self-awareness and calls for revenge!
        If the killer killed the newcomer or the homeless, then everything is fine, it's just * a scumbag * has nothing to do with Russians as a nationality!
        1. 0
          9 July 2013 09: 14
          To rephrase the question: Do you think this is all due to several murders?
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            9 July 2013 09: 24
            Quote: Spade
            To rephrase the question: Do you think this is all due to several murders?

            I wrote Sani Romanov above that I think about it !!
            You must admit that if on my link the name of the offender was not Nikita, but Alibek, for example, there would be no limit to the outrage of our users!
            We are all adults and we know perfectly well that all nations have criminals and people worthy of respect!
            Most recently, in Moscow, a young native of Dagestan saved two drowning girls, unable to swim himself, and drowned !!
            He was a gastrobiter !!
            Why are worthy ones quickly forgotten ???
            http://topwar.ru/30272-geroy-nashego-vremeni-zhitel-dagestana-cenoy-svoey-zhizni


            -spas-dvuh-shkolnic.html # comment-id-1303985



            That is how many times the children of officials, officials themselves or mozhory escaped punishment by committing serious crimes, thanks to friends and status Russians of ethnicity !! ??
            Someone shouted to their families and friends, to evict ??
            That is, the question here is not impunity, but instilling in people hatred of a certain segment of the population!

            1. +9
              9 July 2013 09: 40
              You do not quite realize what is happening in Russia. People from the Caucasus can rely on the loyalty of the authorities, you can buy officials and law enforcement officers. But you cannot buy a crowd, and you should not count on its loyalty. And the killings are just an excuse, not a cause. The reason is the inappropriate behavior of young people from the Caucasus.
              And not only they will suffer. Everyone will suffer. The crowd will not particularly sort.

              Quote: Yarbay
              Why are worthy ones quickly forgotten ???

              They are lost against the unworthy.
              1. Yarbay
                -3
                9 July 2013 09: 59
                Quote: Spade
                . People from the Caucasus can rely on the loyalty of the authorities, you can buy officials and law enforcement officers.

                But the authorities are RUSSIAN !!
                YOU CHOSEN THEM !!
                Until you make them work and serve under the LAW, nothing will CHANGE!
                Drive out the Chechens, the gypsies will come, the French will come to them, the Indians will kill them!
                Quote: Spade
                You do not quite realize what is happening in Russia

                Imagine!
                1. +8
                  9 July 2013 11: 33
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  But the authorities are RUSSIAN !!
                  YOU CHOSEN THEM !!

                  I did not select them.
                  I did not vote for the current w.od.
                2. 0
                  9 July 2013 14: 01
                  Nobody ever chooses them. They come to power with the help of money, connections and making promises to "necessary" people to help.
                  Any nation has scumbags and criminals, but among the Caucasians there are too many of them, and the people so vigorously perceive this.
              2. survivor
                +8
                9 July 2013 11: 03
                good time of the day. I am, for example, a Caucasian. to be honest, I never received any favors from the police, but I was not noticed in anything like that. Alibek is right, when the Russians themselves create limitlessness, there is no fuss. But why? Yes, because the hype is needed precisely in order to create an "internal enemy". when a Russian guy was killed in Rostov, some of the Caucasians organized a whole march, and when I, the manager of the recreation center, at that time, for the performance of my not mediocre duties, were beaten into the trash by four quite Russian guys (you see, to continue the banquet there was no money and climbed into the building to remove the water heater, and I, a black-ass chock, drove them POLITELY from the building and from the territory of the base), no one sniffed. The district police officer even tried to frighten and did not want to hear about the statement. Is this an isolated fact, or? after I drove them out, they came to my house and started a fight. A guard, a young fellow villager, instead of helping me to get them out, ran around them, "kneading me with their feet" and asked them to stop. I didn’t start a showdown. I didn’t invite my fellow countrymen to help me. I really didn’t want what would happen later, whatever mother was shouting that the animals had beaten innocent Russian guys. EXACTLY FOR THAT THEY BEATED THAT THEY ARE DE RUSSIAN !!! and not because the drunks staged a brawl and beating !!!. no one knows HOW and WHAT is actually happening. this is exactly what no one will say!
                1. +5
                  9 July 2013 11: 16
                  Deal with your youth. I lived in Vladik for a long time, I know how more mature tribesmen can influence them. If you do not, then everything will only get worse and worse.
                  1. MVS
                    MVS
                    +1
                    9 July 2013 11: 32
                    Quote: Spade
                    Deal with your youth. I lived in Vladik for a long time, I know how more mature tribesmen can influence them. If you do not, then everything will only get worse and worse.

                    I completely agree with every word. For some reason, in the Caucasus, it is in terms of "interethnic incidents" that everything is quieter than in Central Russia.
                    1. 0
                      9 July 2013 11: 41
                      I remember a young lieutenant came and came to me as a platoon. I had to look for him an apartment. I went to a friend, agreed. He talked with the local punks, and the lieutenant had absolutely no problems.
              3. smersh70
                +2
                9 July 2013 23: 25
                Quote: Spade
                People from the Caucasus can count on the loyalty of the authorities,


                Toaishch Lopatov! Why are you boiling ... you didn’t kill a Russian ... one Russian killed another ..... better blame your health care, the surgeon was not there ... and the nurse refused to help the wounded ...... You as in the beginning of the 20th century, then Jews were to blame for everything ... and now Caucasians ..... look at the root .... some take away the causes of troubles and discontent of the country's population ... and look for the guilty not there ... ..
                1. Yarbay
                  +2
                  9 July 2013 23: 34
                  Quote: smersh70
                  ..better blame your health care, the surgeon was not there ... and the nurse refused to help the wounded ....

                  In principle, the situation is the same as with Mirzaev’s victim, Agafonov, after bruising, he hit his head and the doctors didn’t help him for several hours in the hospital !!
                  Again indifference !!!
                  1. 0
                    9 July 2013 23: 47
                    I’ll tear the template for you now, but I believe that Mirzaev was right. So there is nothing to attach it to this topic.
                    1. Yarbay
                      +2
                      10 July 2013 00: 09
                      Quote: Spade
                      I’ll tear the template for you now, but I believe that Mirzaev was right. So there is nothing to attach it to this topic.

                      I also think that he was right !!
                      But thousands of Russians demanded to break it, just because he was Caucasian !!
                      And if, on the contrary, everyone would consider that Russian is right, just as YOU!
                      That’s why I say that the atmosphere is being escalated and hatred is being sown !! In your society there is already a certain layer of people who live by this !!
                      1. 0
                        10 July 2013 00: 17
                        He did the right thing, put the presumptuous in place. He acted in accordance with our civilizational code, he protected the girl from the freak, giving him in the face. I didn’t stab him, but simply gave him in the face.
                        Well, what happened next, this major was worth not hanging around in night clubs, but attending the gym. I wouldn’t have accumulated so sharply, and would not have broken my skull.
                      2. Yarbay
                        +1
                        10 July 2013 00: 33
                        Quote: Spade
                        He did the right thing

                        Lopatov auuuu))))
                        I'm writing about something else !!
                        please read again what you answered and if possible answer exactly what I wrote !!
                        If there is nothing to say, I will understand you!
                2. 0
                  9 July 2013 23: 40
                  And they are also Tatars. Their. In Chechnya, a third of the battery was Tatars.
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    9 July 2013 23: 47
                    Quote: Spade
                    And the Tatars are also ours

                    I didn’t hear the answer to the shovels, why the people in Ryazan didn’t take to the streets and did not demand that the relatives of those frostbitten teenagers who had been knocked over by a student be evicted ???
                    Why doesn’t anyone resent the indifference of passers-by and do not demand their eviction ?? Is this the first time ???
                    Why are those who should help the wounded and not help not punished, do not even require their dismissal ??
                    1. 0
                      9 July 2013 23: 58
                      People have not reached the limit. The fact is that Ruslan Marzhanov is already the third person killed by Chechens in Pugachev. It is difficult to rock our people, but these few hundred people succeeded.
                      1. Yarbay
                        0
                        10 July 2013 00: 04
                        Quote: Spade
                        The fact is that Ruslan Marzhanov is already the third person killed by Chechens in Pugachev.

                        Shovels are not a fact! Rumors are quite possible !!
                        Quote: Spade
                        People have not reached the limit

                        How do you know how many people were killed in Ryazan ?? How many teenagers attacked people !! ??
                        I remember the broadcast about this crime and many there said that these teenagers who killed a student have been terrorizing everyone in that area for a long time!
                        Quote: Spade
                        It is difficult to rock our people, but these few hundred people succeeded.
                        On the contrary, it’s worth flickering in some kind of crime to the Caucasians that everyone is outraged by all Caucasians, even without going into details))))
                      2. +1
                        10 July 2013 00: 22
                        It is a fact. murders in 2010 and 2011. In 2010, one of the twin brothers, Nikolai Veshnyakov, was stabbed to death. 5 knife, the killer - Beslan Mudaev. At the same time, there are only a few hundred Chechens in the city of forty thousand.
                      3. Yarbay
                        0
                        10 July 2013 00: 31
                        Quote: Spade
                        It is a fact. murders in 2010 and 2011. In 2010, one of the twin brothers, Nikolai Veshnyakov, was stabbed to death. 5 knife, the killer - Beslan Mudaev. At the same time, there are only a few hundred Chechens in the city of forty thousand.

                        killers planted ???
                        And how many for three years Russian Russians killed there is infa ??
                        and who killed the third case?
                        A few hundred is not enough?))))))
            2. +6
              9 July 2013 11: 31
              Quote: Yarbay
              Why are worthy ones quickly forgotten ???

              Because there are one in a hundred, if not more than a hundred.
              The reason is simple, not the best part of the society of the former republics of the Union is coming to us. Normal and well-built at home.
              And the fact that there will be a purge in the country I have little doubt that if Putin does not, the one who will be after him will do it. I will take part with pleasure.
              The more inaction of power, the less time Vova has, here the dependence is direct.
              1. Yarbay
                0
                9 July 2013 12: 30
                Quote: baltika-18
                Because there are one in a hundred, if not more than a hundred.

                Yes, I can’t believe it!
                It can’t be!
                though....
              2. dmb
                +3
                9 July 2013 14: 01
                Tell Nikolay, why during such discussions a certain part of members of the forum quickly moves to the "former republics". We are talking about OUR CITIZENS, in Pugachev, and the migrants have nothing to do with it. By the way, don't the Ukrainian and Moldovan migrants who "take" jobs from our citizens bother you? Or are there no "unworthy" among them, but only the worthy come to us? There are thugs on the site with whom it is pointless to enter into a discussion on these issues, but you didn’t seem to belong to them. And also ask yourself two questions. Why in the USSR the bribe taker was punished much harsher than the bribe giver, and what is the predominantly nationality of the "humanists" who absolve the representatives of the Caucasus who committed crimes from responsibility? I can assure you that their humanism also extends to any wealthy Russian.
                1. 0
                  9 July 2013 14: 39
                  Quote: dmb
                  Tell Nikolay, why during such discussions a certain part of members of the forum quickly moves to the "former republics".

                  This applies not only to the republics, but also to our Caucasian regions. I am not at all going to revenge everyone under one comb, but the fact that they are leaving to the original Russian regions is not the best since the Soviet era.
                  Quote: dmb
                  By the way, don't the Ukrainian and Moldovan migrants who "take" places from our citizens bother you?

                  They are embarrassed, but much less. The mentality is different, but they themselves come much less.
                  Quote: dmb
                  what is the predominantly nationality of the "humanists" who release those who committed crimes

                  And they have one nationality, Dmitry, monetary.
                  PS When I studied at the institute, in Soviet times, we still lived in unison with the Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, we still maintain relations. But neither they nor we could get along with the Chechens, there were skirmishes. Why did I ....
                  May the Almighty made a mistake with them, and now he is giving signs, saying that it is time to correct the mistake.
                  1. dmb
                    +5
                    9 July 2013 15: 30
                    Don't involve the Lord in this matter. Everything is much simpler. The level of culture and tradition. As you understand, I have never divided people into good and bad by ethnicity, but the level of culture cannot be dumped. Evenks, Chukchi, Khanty, they do not change the traditional way of life, and despite all their peacefulness, you are unlikely to like it if someone of them, having arrived in Ryazan or Samara, will slaughter deer on the square and drink fresh blood. And for them it is usual, and they will not understand when you will drive them. Do you think that the level of culture of the brave Vainakh, even if he drives a Bentley and studies at MGIMO, is much higher? He used to behave like that in his aul with foreigners. The ways out of this situation are known: the stick and the carrot. When a Chechen studies at MGIMO not because he is the nephew of the main bandit, but because he is talented, if at the same time he knows that in case of violation of generally accepted norms, he will get in the head not because he is a Chechen, but because they violated, then he will behave accordingly. This is naturally not a single year's work. In the USSR, this took decades, but now we will have to start all over again, naturally after we return to the socialist path of development. So that we return there as late as possible, the current "fathers of the nation" and gradually incite ethnic strife.
                    1. Yarbay
                      0
                      10 July 2013 00: 50
                      Quote: dmb
                      Don't involve the Lord in this matter. Everything is much simpler. The level of culture and tradition. As you understand, I have never divided people into good and bad by ethnicity, but the level of culture cannot be dumped. Evenks, Chukchi, Khanty, they do not change the traditional way of life, and despite all their peacefulness, you are unlikely to like it if someone of them, having arrived in Ryazan or Samara, will slaughter deer on the square and drink fresh blood. And for them it is usual, and they will not understand when you will drive them. Do you think that the level of culture of the brave Vainakh, even if he drives a Bentley and studies at MGIMO, is much higher? He used to behave like that in his aul with foreigners. The ways out of this situation are known: the stick and the carrot. When a Chechen studies at MGIMO not because he is the nephew of the main bandit, but because he is talented, if at the same time he knows that in case of violation of generally accepted norms, he will get in the head not because he is a Chechen, but because they violated, then he will behave accordingly. This is naturally not a single year's work. In the USSR, this took decades, but now we will have to start all over again, naturally after we return to the socialist path of development. So that we return there as late as possible, the current "fathers of the nation" and gradually incite ethnic strife.

                      You wrote everything right!
                      I fully support!
        2. +3
          9 July 2013 09: 33
          it's simple: Russian scumbag planted in 100% of cases.
          1. Piterkras
            +1
            9 July 2013 12: 21
            Well, the previous Caucasian killer was put in Pugachevo for 10 years.
    2. mogus
      +8
      9 July 2013 10: 08
      Alibek, you know Russia well enough and how we get along with all peoples. For hundreds of years of coexistence, everyone has become accustomed to each other. We did not exterminate nations on racial lines, as the United States did. So why are there so many claims to the North Caucasus? Are we Slavs to blame, or are they? Well, we have never had and do not have such "graters" with anyone as with the Caucasus. What will become of me if I behave in the Caucasus, the same way they behave in my country? And how much we tolerate them ... They do not accept the rules of my country and are trying to impose their own.
      You give an example of Russian murder of Russian - for us this is a crime. For them - a way of approval.
      1. sumcream56
        +1
        9 July 2013 13: 52
        All this public, which is atrocious in Russia in the Caucasus, is the king of life. Dad is the prosecutor, uncle is the chief of police. And a little against the action movie. It’s good if one is killed, but the whole family can. Arriving in Russia, feeling their support, they behave arrogantly. The Cossacks kept the Caucasus in check. So the Terek and Kuban Cossacks were sent to the Soviet Union three times for dispersal (the third time, however, they themselves were to blame, there was nothing for Hitler to serve!). That is, the Cossacks destroyed 70% physically, 95% morally. Chechens and Ingush live on the lands of Terek Cossacks. And the vampire who tried the blood will not stop. And as for the memory of the people, many people remember how the Soviet government drowned in blood a riot in Grozny against the lawlessness of Chechens in 1958, in 1950 in Krasnodar, in 1962 in Novocherkassk.
    3. +1
      10 July 2013 02: 31
      eka Alibek red piled on)) that would be minusers with such solidarity, on the street Caucasians will respond to rudeness, there would be no price!
      1. Yarbay
        0
        10 July 2013 18: 01
        Quote: Gleb
        eka Alibek red piled on)) that would be minusers with such solidarity, on the street Caucasians will respond to rudeness, there would be no price!

        Absolutely right!!
        Totally agree!
        I will add that a little less indifference !!
  23. +13
    9 July 2013 08: 42
    Russian peasant is very difficult to stir up and bring to white heat. But if it succeeded, then that’s all. put out the light and drain the water. Then shreds in the back streets will fly. They are Arabs like gunpowder - a small spark - and a zilch bright, but short. But the Russians, like saltpeter, can lie for years and there will be nothing but good. But if there is a good detonator, then it will blow everything into the trash.
  24. 12061973
    +4
    9 July 2013 08: 43
    Adat, ayah, Sunnah are used as a method of literature in the upbringing of Chechens, and pedagogy as a science has been thrown out, work westward, and yet labor has been made of a monkey from a man.
  25. +22
    9 July 2013 08: 53
    In the 90-early 00-years, the Russian state forced citizens to die in the name of regaining their control over Chechnya. As a result, Russia now controls Chechnya even less than then. Now the Chechen authorities are killing anyone they want right in the center of Moscow (Baysarova, Yamadayev, Budanov, etc.). However, the state fought with Dudaev and Maskhadov, and Kadyrov pays a multibillion-dollar tribute. Why? Because Kadyrov periodically utters certain sacred loyal words and participates in ceremonies in the Kremlin. That is, it helps to imitate the integrity of the state. The main problem is caused by the fact that the federal leadership actually lost the second Chechen war. Under the guise of victory, a pact was signed with Kadyrov, and the money that goes to Chechnya today can be considered as an indemnity paid for the loss of the war by Russia
    1. +7
      9 July 2013 08: 58
      So they see this money as tribute or indemnity. Accordingly, they behave in Russia, as in the conquered territories.
      1. ed1968
        +4
        9 July 2013 09: 13
        then it’s time to sharpen Russian axes at night
    2. +1
      9 July 2013 10: 13
      Quote: yury-1972

      yury-xnumx


      Today, 08: 53




      In the 90s - early 00s, the Russian state forced citizens to die in the name of regaining their control over Chechnya. As a result, Russia now controls Chechnya even less than then. Now the Chechen authorities are killing who they want right in the center of Moscow

      can you tell me what it was necessary to do
    3. +3
      9 July 2013 10: 49
      The essence of the settlement of the conflict in Chechnya was its Chechenization, destroying the other with one hand so that the Russian boys would not die, the task is carried out successfully, and after recovering the money, of course, they steal and control should be stronger, and the fox Kadyrov who has quickly gone over to the side federal cent, when the smell of fried was already quite.
    4. MG42
      +2
      9 July 2013 18: 20
      There is a simple secret if Chechnya is ruled not by a "loyal" Chechen, then it will continue to "shake" like in the dashing 90s, who does not have "authority" there in flight like plywood over Paris, the people are wayward ... and "loyalty" costs money..
  26. +5
    9 July 2013 08: 56
    God forbid we see a Russian rebellion, meaningless and merciless
  27. doctor3006
    +10
    9 July 2013 08: 59
    But why will this animal not be, even if they condemn, which is unlikely. They will immediately send to Chechnya to sit, where they will immediately release him, and then UDO will issue it retroactively. And he will walk there as a hero, and take pictures with Kadyrov, as was the case recently with the next killer of a Russian guy. This is the targeted genocide of the state-forming Russian people by the current occupation authorities.
  28. A-50
    +8
    9 July 2013 09: 03
    People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished

    Quote: Yarbay
    ethnic hatred again kindled !!


    The deaf and already massive "discontent" of the people is being drained through the prepared "national outlet." But in my opinion, everything is not so easy to drain - the neck is narrow.
    1. +6
      9 July 2013 09: 16
      Quote: A-50
      There is a drain of the deaf and already massive "discontent" of the people through the prepared "national outlet".

      Do you think that Caucasian youth is impudent in accordance with direct instructions from the Kremlin?
      1. A-50
        +4
        9 July 2013 13: 19
        It would be very simple to attribute everything that is happening now in Russia to "direct instructions from the Kremlin." The one who parasitizes in the Kremlin is engaged in gesheft. This public is not interested in riots. Do not think of it as a conspiracy theorist - but the threads of control of the performance are clearly not held by the claws of a galley crab. Rough - ring, comrade.
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          9 July 2013 23: 49
          Quote: A-50
          Do not take it as a conspiracy theorist - but the performance control threads are clearly not held by the galley crab claws

          I agree!!
  29. Nasty
    +4
    9 July 2013 09: 06
    Vote for United Russia
  30. +5
    9 July 2013 09: 23
    And the fact that this tragedy caused a resonance among the population of Pugachev, among Ruslan's fellow countrymen, I can understand and share their pain, "- his statement is quoted on the official website of the government of the Saratov region.
    The head of the region called on the townspeople "not to give vent to emotions and feelings." "We know what irreversible consequences lynching, escalating the situation, speculation on a national theme can lead to. The historical experience of our multinational country does not allow us to forget about this and calm down," Radaev stressed.
    And NO WORDS that the guilty person will somehow be punished!
    And lynching on nat. he’s afraid of the soil apparently because he himself will be raised to the pitchfork
  31. +1
    9 July 2013 09: 25

    Message PU from the Airborne
    http://video.yandex.ru/search?where=all&text=%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%20%D0%BF%D1%83%D
    1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&p=3&filmId=Ps21g9Uj8gE
  32. anarch
    +12
    9 July 2013 09: 31
    Quote: mogus
    not the first time the killer tried

    Quote from the post to the video in the Tube:
    “The elder brother is not even mentioned anywhere, in no media; he was generally hidden. A younger brother, a Chechen, was nearby when the eldest fought. The elder began to lose, the younger attacked Ruslan from the back and inflicted 7 stabs on him in the heart region and one in the face with a scalpel, ”the source said.

    According to him, none of the residents can say with certainty that the culprit of the incident is indeed detained.

    “Nobody saw him, not the fact that he was detained, maybe it's a duck,” said the young man.

    This is more like the truth.
    And from the media it turns out that the paratrooper had a fight with the kid.
    Call a spade a spade: Sneaky Chechen (a Chechen - because mom, dad and the diaspora indulged, which means guilt throughout the diaspora) killed the guy from the back.
    1. +12
      9 July 2013 09: 56
      It is very similar to the truth. In Grozny, during the Soviet period, one-on-one fights with the Chechens went on - if the Russian began to take over, the brothers immediately rushed to help. eyes, and it is such that our law enforcement officers and the entire administrative system are completely rotten and there is no need to expect protection from them, which means that we will have to defend ourselves and our loved ones by all available means (most likely illegal).
      1. survivor
        +3
        9 July 2013 11: 11
        and then in Rostov-on-Don they do not happen the same way? I saw and fought myself !!!
    2. Yarbay
      0
      9 July 2013 23: 51
      Quote: anarh
      “The elder brother is not even mentioned anywhere, in no media; he was generally hidden. A younger brother, a Chechen, was nearby when the eldest fought. The elder began to lose, the younger attacked Ruslan from the back and inflicted 7 stabs on him in the heart region and one in the face with a scalpel, ”the source said.

      Is not a fact!
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    1. ed1968
      +5
      9 July 2013 09: 42
      you are the next whale winked
  34. EGORKA
    +8
    9 July 2013 09: 32
    Quote: Yarbay
    ethnic hatred again kindled !!
    Why no one resents this crime!
    *** - First, I beat him. Then he went for a knife and an ax ... And cut off his head, - a video of this confession went around all the TV channels and the Internet. A young man named Nikita tells how in a drunken stupor he killed a man. On the night of June 24, in the courtyard of the house, he and four other friends were drinking, celebrating graduation. The next morning, a headless body was found nearby. Bloody traces led right into Nikita's apartment. A guy waking up in a hangover delirium did not begin to unlock. It turned out that he not only chopped off the head of a still living person, but took off the scalp, cut off his ears, nose, gouged out his eyes ... He even kicked her on the ground, imitating football feints. Friends did not stop the scumbag ... They stunnedly watched the execution, and then fled. At least now they say so. ***
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26101/2998243/?cp=2

    Because the Russian killers ??

    Because you have to separate flies from cutlets. In the case of Chechens and Caucasians in particular, there are systematic violations of the law, disrespect for local traditions and the impunity provided by the authorities, sluggishly reacting to such confusion. Those who must defend the population and whom this population trusts do not respond to ethnic crimes properly and the locals would have been shoved into the jail for a long time, the Chechens still haven’t betrayed their bandits and will probably give bribes to the police. and such atrocities horrify, but this is from another opera.
    1. Yarbay
      +7
      9 July 2013 09: 46
      Quote: EGORKA
      Because you have to separate flies from cutlets. In the case of the Chechen and Caucasians in particular, systematic violations of the law, disrespect for local traditions and impunity, which the authorities provide, are sluggishly reacting to such a situation

      You are all right!
      So the authorities are to blame for not punishing the CRIMINAL and allowing certain people to disregard the LAW !!
      I wrote my thoughts about it above!
      Let me give you an example, many Dagestanis and Chechens live in my country, they come a lot, but for 10 years I have not heard about a high-profile crime involving them with us! Their behavior here is no different from the behavior of others! They just know that no one will fuss! What will they plant if they vomit and for a long time!
      You have only one problem: NON-FULFILLMENT of their direct RESPONSIBILITIES by the guard authorities and government representatives at the proper level!
      1. 0
        9 July 2013 13: 54
        all right, the authorities are not fulfilling their duties of monitoring the rule of law and punishing criminals. But the question arises: why does the diaspora not help the authorities and do not give out these very offenders and criminals ?!
        1. Yarbay
          0
          9 July 2013 14: 32
          Quote: hort
          why the diaspora does not help the authorities and does not betray these same offenders and criminals ?!

          and who are they ??
          what can they do?
          what do they do at all ???
          1. 0
            10 July 2013 10: 30
            well, they can at least not bribe the same cops with bribes, but extradite the offender, instead of hiding or sending him home.
            What they do with us, I have no idea. I think the same as in all other regions of Russia.
            1. Yarbay
              0
              10 July 2013 13: 52
              Quote: hort
              well, they can at least not bribe the same cops with bribes, but extradite the offender, instead of hiding or sending him home.

              Yes, you do not believe in it, you are bred like rabbits!
              I will never believe that a stranger harnessed someone for all the more money !!!
              Nobody will give a bribe except the bribe giver and his family a penny !! I believe that this person under the terrible name of the diaspora can be an intermediary in giving a bribe and only !!
              So do not you believe in these nonsense!
              Yes, and you would have hinted to your police that they would not take bribes from anyone !!!
  35. +5
    9 July 2013 09: 40
    The ice has broken! More and more such cases happened when the Russian people did not let everything go on the brakes, but acted. I hope that Lynch will soon reach the courts, and even loopholes and immunity to laws will not help the monkeys.
    1. -5
      9 July 2013 09: 55
      you should not be happy if this happens, it will be the beginning of the end.
      1. -2
        9 July 2013 10: 03
        The end of what?
        1. -1
          9 July 2013 10: 33
          Countries, or do you think that civil war will benefit us?
          1. +4
            9 July 2013 11: 19
            What "civil war"? You are the scale of what can happen, you know?
            1. +3
              9 July 2013 13: 37
              just understand.

              hellrikerHopefully Lynch will come to the courts soon, and even loopholes and immunity to laws will not help the monkeys already.


              Do you think there will be no response ?!
              and if we take into account that we have places where the Russian population has less than half the consequences, it’s not difficult to calculate, it’s also not difficult to assume what will happen next.
              and then a howl will rise in international instances about the barbarism of the Russians and the oppression of the "indigenous" peoples.

              lynching should not be Caucasians or Asians, they must be judged by law, but a couple of other officials, precinct and FMSnikov.
              1. -3
                9 July 2013 13: 44
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Do you think there will be no response ?!

                Will not be. They want to eat.
                1. +1
                  9 July 2013 16: 41
                  who wants to eat? !!!
                  no need to say stupid things !!!
                  in order to start a crowd you don’t have to raise a lot in five minutes
              2. 0
                9 July 2013 15: 59
                Even without retaliation, they kill and rape well. And as for judging by the law: Everyone knows how the law acts against Caucasians - nothing.
                1. +1
                  9 July 2013 16: 47
                  You are from the category who are looking for a coin under the lamp, and not where they lost.

                  in order for cops to be law enforcement officers and officials to protect the law, they should ask them harshly and inevitably, because for the most part they are Russians, not Caucasians (if you do not have regions of original residence), or even less so Uzbeks with Tajiks.
                  then (no matter who broke the law) the offender will be punished - imprisoned, expelled.
      2. +4
        9 July 2013 10: 27
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        ... it will be the beginning of the end.

        Always the end of something meant the beginning of something new ...
        Why do you think that this new one will be worse than what we have now. Or are you comfortable with the current state of affairs?
        1. 0
          9 July 2013 10: 38
          Quote: Ribwort
          You think that this new one will be worse than what we have now. Or are you comfortable with the current state of affairs?

          don’t distort (I’m happy about that), in 91 they also thought it would be better
          far from always a change is an improvement and a step forward is not always in the right direction
  36. Muxauk
    +1
    9 July 2013 09: 41
    crimes are committed by all nationalities, but shine everywhere Caucasians, as if by spotlight. first, discontent in front of the TV begins to appear, and then, on occasion, in place
  37. Nasty
    +6
    9 July 2013 09: 50
    I have two amendments to the Criminal Code.
    1 In the case of a serious crime, a genetic examination of the offender is conducted. If genes that contribute to the manifestation of aggressiveness are detected, then the offender is neutered.
    2 With relapse - lobotomy. She will not diminish the mental abilities of these animals, but will calm
  38. -1
    9 July 2013 09: 51
    Yes, soon allah akbar will scream with us and cut everyone.
    1. survivor
      +2
      9 July 2013 11: 15
      if the authorities are silent, the police are inactive, the average man in the street does not come off the sofa and the beer does not come off, then everything can be shouted in the streets, not only "Allah Akbar".
  39. +2
    9 July 2013 09: 55
    The authorities, busy with writing a "single textbook" on history, absolutely apparently missed its essence, which is that you can sit on the neck of the people for quite a long time and even take an ostrich position in relation to everything that happens in the country. But there was already one "master of the earth Russian ", who also played ostrich, but one fine day was surprised to find himself with a bullet in his head and filled with acid in a deep mine, I'm sure that lying there he was very surprised and shocked, how could this have happened? what to write about the "innocent murdered" can you look back at the historical situation? What did he do and what did not, why did this happen? Back in our time, the authorities also need to pull their heads out of the sand and look around, maybe they are doing something We are told on TV that "Nazism is impossible in Russia," they say it is multinational, then the authorities, without doing anything, put their heads back in the sand and come what may. Or maybe something needs to be done? First, punish the murderers according to the law if he is a murderer, a thief, if he is a thief, etc. Or the authorities are preparing the role of a lightning rod for the Caucasus, if it becomes really bad? When steam will escape from all the cracks of the steam boiler, they will tell us that the Caucasians are to blame for everything, bring them down!
  40. EGORKA
    +11
    9 July 2013 09: 59
    I read some forum, they write that in Belarus, the local population and the police react quickly to such showdowns, all guests face the ground and in the jail, and the locals catch those who are trying to escape, so there is no such chaos there. A small country, where one nation lives compactly and reacts sensibly. Unlike us, the sick Russian nation, in which the immunity to such is very weak, we are sluggishly uniting internally for our protection and do not raise our children in the spirit of the fact that someone inside our country is an enemy to us, we naively believe in our we get the police and get what we get. Naturally, patience will sooner or later burst and we can go down in our evolutionary development and act by the methods of the same guests, just gathered, scored and the law, it would be sad and that this should not happen the authorities should act already yesterday .... but they are deaf to the moaning of the people, but what about them? similar crimes are committed only with the most unprotected sections of the population, no one climbs on the powers that be or the powerful, otherwise they would have sent them all home for a long time. So local authorities, officials and the police are guilty no less than the same Chechens, for example. and it would be time for the rest to unite and create groups to fight back, those who climb into a foreign monastery with their own charter, and do not live in peace.
  41. +16
    9 July 2013 10: 02
    Quote: Nevsky
    he understands this and that is why he does not take radical measures, protects these freaks from the aggression of the Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...

    God, what nonsense! There is nothing simpler than the wording - "The Law is One for All!" . There should not be any special "Proud" nations. The protection of fellow tribesmen of their criminals indicates precisely the racial background of what is happening, the formation of a caste, according to race, the chosen ones.
    We are reaping the fruits of Impunity of tribal societies. To which the law should apply, in the event they commit a crime, as well as to the organized crime group. That is, more rigidly.
    1. sashka
      0
      9 July 2013 11: 08
      Quote: Himalayan
      God, what nonsense! There is nothing simpler than the wording - "The Law is One for All!"

      In Russia ? We have no Laws .. Every local "prince" will set his own Conditions .. And the president is just words. "Poor fellow". I sincerely feel sorry for him .. The country of "thieves in law" .. In fact, there is nowhere further level ..
  42. EGORKA
    +6
    9 July 2013 10: 02
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    you should not be happy if this happens, it will be the beginning of the end.

    There will be no end, but there will be blood ....
  43. +17
    9 July 2013 10: 06
    Look at him! He is not afraid of anything, because he knows that nothing will happen to him! Not a single head of the republic acts like that. He appears in the media more often than any governor. Therefore, Chechens and arrogant looking at him.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/844/hucg12.jpg
    1. +7
      9 July 2013 10: 21
      On the face of obvious degenerative cretinism, a horseradish dancer.
    2. Yarbay
      +3
      9 July 2013 10: 32
      Quote: Vasily T.
      Look at him!

      When I saw the photo, I just remembered one interview of Kadyrov after the murder of his father, as it struck into memory!
      Asked about what changed in life after the death of his father, he listed some things and said that since then he has not DANCED and will never be able to DANCE again as a sign of grief!
      I respected his words then!
      Apparently money and power can spoil many and make a lot of forget!

      ***
      Last Saturday in Grozny chose the "Beauty of Chechnya." The winner was congratulated by Ramzan Kadyrov (pictured right). According to the Chechen tradition, beauties were showered with money ...

      - Not me, definitely. Everyone knows my friends. At least one confirmed that it’s me in the pictures, Ramzan? None! There is a place somewhere in the eatery. What, I have nothing to do, how to dance



      I don’t dance at all after the death of my father.







      - And the girls are strangers?

      - At all! I watched a lot ... There are no faces visible, only my hair there is like. Fake.

      - Who needs this?

      - Wahhabis need. It went when I raised a moral question.

      - About polygamy?

      - I didn’t raise it. They asked me: do not mind me, to have four wives? I said: support. Because in the republic there are 30 thousand more women than men.

      - They say you go to night clubs in Moscow?

      - Once upon a time. I did not know what it is. The guys told me: there will be a birthday, let's go, congratulations. And there, everything is completely different. I was there for about 15 minutes, then left so that no one would see. I'm not like that. I have no time for entertainment. [...]
      http://www.rospres.com/government/4247/
    3. Piterkras
      0
      9 July 2013 13: 40
      If he will dance to the Qatari, Saudi and American dollars, then Russia will pay the lives of its people.
      1. Yarbay
        0
        9 July 2013 14: 33
        Quote: piterkras
        If he will dance to the Qatari, Saudi and American dollars, then Russia will pay the lives of its people.

        I am not talking about that!
    4. MG42
      +3
      9 July 2013 18: 10
      Quote: Vasily T.
      Look at him! He is not afraid of anything
  44. KononAV
    +2
    9 July 2013 10: 07
    Kill. Kill everyone !!!!!!!!!!
  45. +8
    9 July 2013 10: 11
    Quote: YuriWhite
    that not one Chechen killed the paratrooper from here and the unrest. And as always they hang noodles for us. And the main reason is that the Russians are generally inert or even cowardly until a certain point - how many times was this convinced of the SA when fighting with Caucasians and no one came to the rescue and in civilian life when one made a comment to the southern guests and the rest sat and did the view that nothing is happening but the southern guests are immediately images

    I agree. Even the articles went: at first the murderer was 17 years old, after 16 ... an emphasis on minority. It's like last year, chicha, father of 14-15 children and with a white ticket, killed the mayor http://kornev.livejournal.com/337307.html
    Everything is very competent. Like marmots, formerly Khazbulatov (and these are public faces) Were in the Kremlin. So the prosecutor’s office grabs hit Cheech. There, on the brakes, things are coming down.
  46. EGORKA
    +2
    9 July 2013 10: 13
    Quote: KononAV
    Kill. Kill everyone !!!!!!!!!!

    We must give a chance, try to reason ... our powers that be must finally move and make everyone live according to the law.
  47. +1
    9 July 2013 10: 32
    [quote = RA77] [quote = Cyril7377] it is possible that the hit from behind got into the artery and therefore the guy died so quickly [/ quote]
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about? It is written, "multiple stab-cut wounds of the chest", from which "the victim died in a medical institution."

    Dear, choose expressions, I don’t know with whom you communicate in life, in my society such words are not used in a dispute, this is firstly, secondly, by the nature of my activity, I have seen enough of corpses a lot, so I can roughly imagine what I'm saying, and thirdly did you see a scalpel in your eyes? apparently in your view this is a huge machete-)
    1. 0
      9 July 2013 11: 21
      Scalpel scalpel discord. I made a working knife out of one 20 cm.
  48. Nasty
    +6
    9 July 2013 10: 42
    The laws are stupid.
    Instead of punishing the criminal and protecting society from him, we are offered to think about his vulnerable soul, national characteristics and other garbage.
    In the United States, this animal would have received its legal 40 years.
    Punishment should lead to the extinction of the genus. Therefore, the dates are half a century without dates.
    Islamists, terrorists sew up in the skins of pigs and so bury. they’ll definitely not be allowed into paradise
    1. itkul
      0
      9 July 2013 13: 20
      Quote: Nadyt
      In the United States, this animal would have received its legal 40 years.


      Yes, the USA well done in this regard

      http://www.rg.ru/2013/07/02/carter-site.html

      As the father of Justin Carter told the media, his son's tragedy began with a discussion on Facebook, which discussed an online game in which Justin and his friend had just participated. One of the interlocutors ironically remarked that Justin is crazy. "To this my son, with his characteristic sarcasm, replied:" Oh, yes, I'm really crazy, I'm going to shoot a full school of children and eat their still beating hearts, "and then explained:" a joke. "This entry was seen by an anonymous user from Canada, who took Carter's statement seriously, found the teen's home address on search engines and reported it to the police.

      On February 14, in Austin, Texas, the young man was arrested on suspicion of a "terrorist threat" and has since been in custody awaiting trial. He faces up to 10 years in prison.
  49. anarch
    +5
    9 July 2013 10: 45
    Quote: Whale
    Stop mooing Russian cows moo moo moo

    The words of the non-Russian ram.
  50. +1
    9 July 2013 10: 52
    Here is an interesting (before revolutionary) book about Chechens. At the end there is a link to the book as a whole.
    http://ru-nsn.livejournal.com/3099527.html
    As I have already said, in the current situation in Russia, the so-called "Russian elite", which is entirely composed of Jews, is to blame.
    The principle SHARE AND POWER IN ACTION. While we are all outraged and indignant, oil capitals go to London.
    NEEDS WHAT TO DO WITH THE RUSSIAN-ZHIDOVSKY ELITE.
    http://ru.scribd.com/doc/126073526/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B8-%D0%B8-%
    D1%87%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%86%D1%8B-%D0%B2-%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8C%D0%B5-
    %D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%A2%D0%B5%
    D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8-%D0%A2%
    D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2-%D0%93-%D0%90
    1. anarch
      0
      9 July 2013 18: 09
      I read it.
  51. sashka
    0
    9 July 2013 10: 58
    I use or am in the system for the Government and the FSB.. And no one can penetrate my “machine”.. Prove otherwise. Please..
  52. xmike
    +6
    9 July 2013 10: 59
    The head of the region called on the townspeople "not to give vent to emotions and feelings." “We know the irreversible consequences of lynching, escalation of the situation, and speculation on a national theme.
    The head of the region called on the townspeople to endure and allow themselves to be exterminated further? Real leaders must defend the interests of the NATION, and not be whores! Lynching of the majority of the population is a FAIR COURT. Sorry for being harsh, but I'm getting tired of this already. I demand action from the authorities, not chatter!
    1. Piterkras
      -1
      9 July 2013 12: 52
      And the people themselves are all idiots? Look, if the gopniks from some neighborhood were beaten with bats a couple of times, they would calm down. Are they weak?
  53. 12061973
    0
    9 July 2013 11: 03
    But can’t local government bodies, on the basis of a general meeting, make a decision on resettlement? If they can’t, then they should be given this opportunity. It's not so much about Chechen-gypsies that drug dealers are harassing.
  54. Nevsky
    +8
    9 July 2013 11: 06

    ed1968

    An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, Caucasian monkeys, they don’t even imagine how terrible and merciless the Russian rebellion is.


    Oh yes, here is a riot in the Nikolayev region against the inaction of the Ukrainian police...

    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      0
      9 July 2013 11: 14
      This girl died in the hospital - it’s a pity for the ruined young life.

      I hope that despite their ranks and shoulder straps, God will mete out the full punishment for the criminals.
      1. Nevsky
        +2
        9 July 2013 11: 38
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        Today, 11: 14 ↑
        This girl died in the hospital - it’s a pity for the lost young life


        Thank God, she survived and is already walking around the hospital ward on her own. You've got something mixed up.
    2. MG42
      +3
      9 July 2013 17: 46
      Quote: Nevsky
      Oh yes, here is a riot in the Nikolayev region against the inaction of the Ukrainian police...

      Yes, our cops are suspended, only they are then reinstated in service even through the courts..
      By the way, there was an interesting study among Ukrainian youth on “do you feel happy in Ukraine?” the lowest level of happiness is in the south of Ukraine, the highest in the West...
      Quote: Lech from ZATULINKI
      This girl died in the hospital - it’s a pity for the ruined young life.

      It was Oksana Makar who died in the hospital from burns, who was raped and burned in Nikolaev..
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  56. +7
    9 July 2013 11: 11
    Am I the only one who noticed how much the attitude towards the government and Putin on this site has changed over the past year?
    1. Piterkras
      -13
      9 July 2013 12: 50
      Why don’t you like Putin? I don’t like that the Soviets are used to the state doing everything for them, but they themselves are not capable of anything, and Putya is to blame?
      1. Piterkras
        -14
        9 July 2013 13: 44
        The scoops are downvoted laughing . That's why you live the way you deserve, gee-gee...
        1. +6
          9 July 2013 13: 54
          Quote: piterkras
          The scoops have been muted. That's why you live the way you deserve, gee-gee...


          What does it mean to live as we deserve? Do you live in another country? Or on Rublyovka? What does Sovki mean? I was born in the USSR at 83... And I’m proud of it. What's wrong with the USSR? In general, as I understand it, you didn’t respect the country’s past, and you haven’t decided on the future. It’s as if there’s nothing to talk to you about.
      2. 0
        9 July 2013 13: 51
        Quote: piterkras
        Why don’t you like Putin?

        Did I write that I don’t like him? I just wrote about what I noticed on the site.
      3. 0
        10 July 2013 14: 35
        How about it yourself? Go and kill the entire Chechen diaspora in the town? Because they wouldn’t give theirs to the crowd. Nord created the state so that it would resolve such issues, and not as in the Caucasus mountains they cut each other’s teips on the principle of blood feud.
        1. Yarbay
          0
          10 July 2013 16: 21
          Quote: Mairos
          Because they wouldn’t give theirs to the crowd.
          No matter how they handed it over, it was the Chechens who handed the killer over to the police!!
          Read what the father of the murdered man says???
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  58. 0
    9 July 2013 11: 13
    Music on the theme (read subtitles)...
  59. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 11: 16
    Quote: 12061973
    But can’t local government bodies, on the basis of a general meeting, make a decision on resettlement? If they can’t, then they should be given this opportunity. It's not so much about Chechen-gypsies that drug dealers are harassing.

    it's about the authorities, local bureaucrats and the police who do nothing
  60. -1
    9 July 2013 11: 22
    present in any nation
    we must fight not with nations but with freaks...
    Extinguish freaks of any nationality - in toilets and water closets!!!
    1. RPD
      +1
      9 July 2013 13: 53
      present in any nation
      we must fight not with nations but with freaks...

      just a mantra, read it ten times a day, and the rhinoceroses will throw away their knives and become white and fluffy
  61. +5
    9 July 2013 11: 24
    The main thing is that a situation does not develop like in France, for example, when the minority is a priori right because it is a minority and therefore requires protection from the majority.
    Everyone should be equal before the law
    and there should be no connivance with the authorities
    working according to the facts and strictly according to the law is the only way to salvation..

    Amen!!
    1. survivor
      0
      9 July 2013 11: 31
      so it is, dear. Everyone must be equal before the law! and if this is not so, then...the law is to blame!!!
      1. Piterkras
        -2
        9 July 2013 13: 35
        And in which country in the world are everyone equal before the law? Probably in the USA, where racism in judicial decisions has not yet been abolished?
  62. 0
    9 July 2013 11: 27
    It’s somehow strange - “young man stabbed in the stomach and died in intensive care,” and “as a result of the conflict, a minor inflicted a scalpel on a young man multiple stab wounds to the chest"." ...got ready to “go to the pogrom of the Chechens.” Participants of the street protest went to the Saratov-Samara highway. "Were they going to beat Chechens on the highway? And what is that"people of Caucasian nationality" ? In this case, there should be “people of Alpine nationality”, “people of Carpathian nationality”. "people of Himalayan ethnicity"
    There is a lot of incompetence, a lot of personal opinion of some Anton Naumlyuk, but the provocative pressure on feelings in the article is over the head.
    1. +2
      9 July 2013 11: 39
      The people did not go to the highway to beat the Chechens... Driven to despair by the inaction of the authorities (in Pugachev this is not the first murder of indigenous people by Caucasians), the residents thus declared their rights to normal, quiet living conditions in their city, no matter how strange it sounds. Their main demands are to evict the Chechens from the city; this is exactly what they are trying to achieve; naturally, there are also more radically minded residents who went to showdown with the Chechens; moreover, according to information on the network, five cars with residents of the Republic of Tatarstan were detained on the highway (the victim was by nationality Tatar). So everything is more or less clear... the only thing we don’t know for sure yet is about the conflict and the mechanism for receiving bodily injuries, including those that led to death
  63. +5
    9 July 2013 11: 36
    dementia and masochism.... that you can’t burn down a place of compact residence at night..... you don’t even need courage for this))))
    throw some bottles with the mixture and see how it goes (the firefighters will be late or something)
  64. +1
    9 July 2013 11: 39
    Strange lumps that don’t know how to fight with their fists, they use bats or knives... in a word.
    1. +6
      9 July 2013 11: 42
      The mentality is different....you can’t publicly show that you can lose or lose, so they go to any lengths just to “win”...But when there is no one, especially their own people, they become affectionate and obedient :)
    2. Piterkras
      +1
      9 July 2013 13: 34
      This is because news about stabbings, not beatings, becomes resonant.
  65. survivor
    -6
    9 July 2013 11: 46
    Quote: survivor
    good time of the day. I am, for example, a Caucasian. to be honest, I never received any favors from the police, but I was not noticed in anything like that. Alibek is right, when the Russians themselves create limitlessness, there is no fuss. But why? Yes, because the hype is needed precisely in order to create an "internal enemy". when a Russian guy was killed in Rostov, some of the Caucasians organized a whole march, and when I, the manager of the recreation center, at that time, for the performance of my not mediocre duties, were beaten into the trash by four quite Russian guys (you see, to continue the banquet there was no money and climbed into the building to remove the water heater, and I, a black-ass chock, drove them POLITELY from the building and from the territory of the base), no one sniffed. The district police officer even tried to frighten and did not want to hear about the statement. Is this an isolated fact, or? after I drove them out, they came to my house and started a fight. A guard, a young fellow villager, instead of helping me to get them out, ran around them, "kneading me with their feet" and asked them to stop. I didn’t start a showdown. I didn’t invite my fellow countrymen to help me. I really didn’t want what would happen later, whatever mother was shouting that the animals had beaten innocent Russian guys. EXACTLY FOR THAT THEY BEATED THAT THEY ARE DE RUSSIAN !!! and not because the drunks staged a brawl and beating !!!. no one knows HOW and WHAT is actually happening. this is exactly what no one will say!

    To be honest, I was just waiting for this answer to be downvoted, or someone would answer, but... the silence speaks for itself. Many, including myself, are more than once indignant at such incidents, such as in Pugachev, but the indignation begins precisely when a Caucasian kills, but no one is indignant when a Caucasian is killed!!! There are so many chocks, why feel sorry for them? or, the media’s silence about a “minor” crime? rather the second one. Ask yourself the question at least once - “who needs such one-sided lighting?” and everything will fall into place! I do not condone the crime at all; whoever committed it must be punished to the fullest extent of the law! but think about why and by whom the protection is being provided? Demand creates supply. If there weren’t those who need to make money from these news, there wouldn’t be these news!!! if they exist, then someone pays for the fact that they appeared. What's the use of paying him? That's all justice!
    1. Yarbay
      -7
      9 July 2013 12: 35
      Quote: survivor

      To be honest, I was just waiting for this answer to be downvoted, or someone would answer, but... the silence speaks for itself. Many, including myself, are more than once indignant at such incidents, such as in Pugachev, but the indignation begins precisely when a Caucasian kills, but no one is indignant when a Caucasian is killed!!! There are so many chocks, why feel sorry for them? or, the media’s silence about a “minor” crime? rather the second one. Ask yourself the question at least once - “who needs such one-sided lighting?” and everything will fall into place! I do not condone the crime at all; whoever committed it must be punished to the fullest extent of the law! but think about why and by whom the protection is being provided? Demand creates supply. If there weren’t those who need to make money from these news, there wouldn’t be these news!!! if they exist, then someone pays for the fact that they appeared. What's the use of paying him? That's all justice!

      I agree with every word!
    2. +4
      9 July 2013 13: 24
      It seems to me that you are still lucky, dear. My father is from the Rostov region and studied in Rostov, even after the war, when Rostov was “Rostov the Pope,” and so he said that in those days in Rostov, Caucasians were quickly put in their place by the police I was just waiting for the thrashing to end. Now Rostov is not the same on the Taganrog highway. cafes and restaurants are filled with Caucasians, the market there is teeming with them, recreation centers along the Don also, as you said, belong to them.
      You have enough sense not to grab a knife, why do others, as soon as they feel that they cannot immediately grab a knife. The answer, I think, is no further than in the traditions of upbringing. Cutting a Russian and others is not a sin according to Caucasian customs, but you can’t cut your own , because then they will cut you down to the last knee, that’s what keeps Caucasians from behaving this way at home.
      1. Nevsky
        +7
        9 July 2013 13: 32
        Quote: mhpv
        It seems to me that you are still lucky, dear. My father is from the Rostov region and studied in Rostov, even after the war, when Rostov was “Rostov the Pope,” and so he said that in those days in Rostov, Caucasians were quickly put in their place by the police I was just waiting for the thrashing to end. Now Rostov is not the same on the Taganrog highway. cafes and restaurants are filled with Caucasians, the market there is teeming with them, recreation centers along the Don also, as you said, belong to them.
        You have enough sense not to grab a knife, why do others, as soon as they feel that they cannot immediately grab a knife. The answer, I think, is no further than in the traditions of upbringing. Cutting a Russian and others is not a sin according to Caucasian customs, but you can’t cut your own , because then they will cut you down to the last knee, that’s what keeps Caucasians from behaving this way at home.


        From Berdyansk (Ukraine) to Taganrog 100 km in a straight line. But there's not one north-Caucasian in our resort town in plain sight and even in the circles of the local elite. There are Georgians and Azerbaijanis, but they are still Soviet, and there are few of them. Of course, no matter how sad and offensive it sounds, but if not for the border, we would probably also see Lezginka in the square of our resort town and in residential areas at any time of the day. The factor of uncontrolled migration in the Russian Federation, both internal and external, is one of the trump cards of our Natsiks against the Customs Union. sad
        1. +1
          9 July 2013 14: 24
          Quote: Nevsky
          There are Georgians and Azerbaijanis, but they are still Soviet, and there are few of them

          For some reason, modern Caucasians do not take these people as examples, but they have a lot to learn from them.
        2. +3
          9 July 2013 14: 36
          I’ll tell you that uncontrolled migration did not stop Old Man from joining the CU and he doesn’t have such a problem, it all depends on the leadership. There the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs work as they should, otherwise he himself will go to construction sites or sweep yards - this is at best, or even The term may expire, but here, no matter how much you feed the wolf, he still looks into someone else’s pocket.
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            9 July 2013 14: 47
            Quote: mhpv
            I’ll tell you that uncontrolled migration did not stop Old Man from joining the CU and he doesn’t have such a problem, it all depends on the leadership. There the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs work as they should, otherwise he himself will go to construction sites or sweep yards - this is at best, or even the deadline may expire.

            quite right!
            1. smersh70
              +1
              9 July 2013 23: 37
              Quote: Yarbay
              absolutely true!



              bro... Polminsk in Russia... even university teachers go to work in construction in Moscow..... for me this was huge news....
          2. smersh70
            +1
            9 July 2013 23: 35
            Quote: mhpv
            I'll tell you that uncontrolled migration did not prevent Old Man from



            I was recently in Minsk.....the point is not that the police control...but the point is that under Old Man the business did not develop as much as in Russia and Moscow... hi there is simply no money in Minsk. As huge as they are in Russia... and getting legalized is as easy as shelling pears - through the registry office and that's it... and the police wouldn't have done anything... the newlyweds went to court... fellow
            1. Yarbay
              0
              10 July 2013 13: 56
              Quote: smersh70
              I was recently in Minsk.

              I’ve never been there, but I really want to go there)) they say it’s beautiful!)))
              1. smersh70
                0
                10 July 2013 14: 13
                I’ve never been there, but I really want to go there)) they say it’s beautiful

                Go.. it’s great there.. you’ll get to the updated USSR-2))))))))) purely. culturally.... the money is nothing but zeros))))).... an oasis of Communism!)))
                1. Yarbay
                  0
                  10 July 2013 16: 36
                  Quote: smersh70
                  Go.. it’s great there.. you’ll get to the updated USSR-2))))))))) purely. culturally.... the money is nothing but zeros))))).... an oasis of Communism!)))

                  I won’t go alone)))))))))))
      2. survivor
        +2
        9 July 2013 15: 13
        cutting any person is a sin!!! don’t distort! The Koran, like the Bible, was written by saints, but pygmies interpret it or him to please their momentary whims.
        When they came into the house, I had a knife (I was preparing dinner for myself) and had to throw the knife aside.
  66. Malleus
    0
    9 July 2013 12: 21
    Quote: INVESTOR
    ...and Kadyrov is a fox who went over to the federal side in time cent, when it already smelled completely fried.


    The typo, as it is fashionable to say, is straight out of Freud...
  67. +4
    9 July 2013 12: 22
    Quote: EGORKA
    I read some forum, they write that in Belarus, the local population and the police react quickly to such showdowns, all guests face the ground and in the jail, and the locals catch those who are trying to escape, so there is no such chaos there. A small country, where one nation lives compactly and reacts sensibly. Unlike us, the sick Russian nation, in which the immunity to such is very weak, we are sluggishly uniting internally for our protection and do not raise our children in the spirit of the fact that someone inside our country is an enemy to us, we naively believe in our we get the police and get what we get. Naturally, patience will sooner or later burst and we can go down in our evolutionary development and act by the methods of the same guests, just gathered, scored and the law, it would be sad and that this should not happen the authorities should act already yesterday .... but they are deaf to the moaning of the people, but what about them? similar crimes are committed only with the most unprotected sections of the population, no one climbs on the powers that be or the powerful, otherwise they would have sent them all home for a long time. So local authorities, officials and the police are guilty no less than the same Chechens, for example. and it would be time for the rest to unite and create groups to fight back, those who climb into a foreign monastery with their own charter, and do not live in peace.


    Instead of B B, Russia needs A G.
  68. EGORKA
    +11
    9 July 2013 12: 24
    Quote: survivor
    Quote: survivor
    good time of the day. I am, for example, a Caucasian. to be honest, I never received any favors from the police, but I was not noticed in anything like that. Alibek is right, when the Russians themselves create limitlessness, there is no fuss. But why? Yes, because the hype is needed precisely in order to create an "internal enemy". when a Russian guy was killed in Rostov, some of the Caucasians organized a whole march, and when I, the manager of the recreation center, at that time, for the performance of my not mediocre duties, were beaten into the trash by four quite Russian guys (you see, to continue the banquet there was no money and climbed into the building to remove the water heater, and I, a black-ass chock, drove them POLITELY from the building and from the territory of the base), no one sniffed. The district police officer even tried to frighten and did not want to hear about the statement. Is this an isolated fact, or? after I drove them out, they came to my house and started a fight. A guard, a young fellow villager, instead of helping me to get them out, ran around them, "kneading me with their feet" and asked them to stop. I didn’t start a showdown. I didn’t invite my fellow countrymen to help me. I really didn’t want what would happen later, whatever mother was shouting that the animals had beaten innocent Russian guys. EXACTLY FOR THAT THEY BEATED THAT THEY ARE DE RUSSIAN !!! and not because the drunks staged a brawl and beating !!!. no one knows HOW and WHAT is actually happening. this is exactly what no one will say!

    To be honest, I was just waiting for this answer to be downvoted, or someone would answer, but... the silence speaks for itself. Many, including myself, are more than once indignant at such incidents, such as in Pugachev, but the indignation begins precisely when a Caucasian kills, but no one is indignant when a Caucasian is killed!!! There are so many chocks, why feel sorry for them? or, the media’s silence about a “minor” crime? rather the second one. Ask yourself the question at least once - “who needs such one-sided lighting?” and everything will fall into place! I do not condone the crime at all; whoever committed it must be punished to the fullest extent of the law! but think about why and by whom the protection is being provided? Demand creates supply. If there weren’t those who need to make money from these news, there wouldn’t be these news!!! if they exist, then someone pays for the fact that they appeared. What's the use of paying him? That's all justice!

    I’m Russian, I had a similar story, but as you know, they were beaten by Caucasians....lucky, I survived, a concussion, etc. Here is something else, many Caucasians do not respect the foundations of the places where they came to live, they are trying to prove something to the locals, their toughness and They isolate themselves and get into groups, almost like a knife, they live by their own laws, and not by the laws of the state... plus the local authorities who do nothing and even take bribes and cover up bandits, and this happens systematically, which leads to such riots. If it’s so bad in central Russia and the Russians are so bad, then why are they coming?) Well, they would live in their republics, boost their economies, but no they go... and when they arrive they begin to establish their own rules, and they themselves are mostly Nazis still those, aren't they? current, it’s all inside, and not like our skinheads. Russians as a whole are very tolerant and will accept a person of any nationality, provided that they do not live by their own laws and will not isolate themselves and build a wall if it were otherwise then the Caucasians would have been driven away a long time ago. But most of all, our government and the local bureaucrats are to blame, they work poorly.
    1. +2
      9 July 2013 12: 32
      Corruption, crime, ethnic conflicts, unemployment, prostitution, drugs... But! In Russia they decided to fight smoking.
  69. Piterkras
    -14
    9 July 2013 12: 36
    In short, as I understand it, there is a typical everyday life there, when one drunk got tired of another, they went out of the tavern to shop, it ended in a stabbing. It is clear that if the killer were Russian, then no one would give a damn about this incident, like the rest of the others. It is clear that it turns out that a Russian can kill a Russian, but a non-Russian cannot.

    But these are minor things. The most interesting thing is different. 42 thousand people live there. How many of them are Caucasians? 1000, 2000, 3000? I don’t think it will even reach 300. With this “rebellion,” local residents confirm that the small number of Caucasians put the entire population of Pugachevo against the lotus, and the population of Pugachevo are cowards, weaklings and nonentities who cannot stand up for themselves. And they cry for help so that they, Caucasians, can be evicted. Reminds me of the story about Kushchevka. Only there the Russian Tsapki walked, and the Kushchevites stood there with cancer and didn’t sweat, didn’t convene meetings.

    Many people wonder why Caucasians hang out well in the Army, and the Russians serve them so well that they are afraid to even take Caucasians into the Airborne Forces. They say that officers, like, cannot stand up for Russian weaklings (and in civilian life - the authorities). Aren’t you all ashamed that a small people are twisting the titular nation, and the titular nation is unable to deal with them, and how the weaklings are simply trying to isolate themselves from them?

    No one will be evicted there, but the residents of Pugachevo, of course, have disgraced themselves before the country. It is not surprising that all sorts of Caucasians and Ukrainians laugh at us Russians and call us weak, drunken pigs. Caucasians behave as the locals allow them. In our time, the Russian gopota swaggered around in one area of ​​the city. But we did not hold rallies to separate the district and send the gopniks to the smelter ghetto. And they conducted preventive conversations using corporal punishment. And lo and behold! The Gopniks have become "civilized." This is because we are not weaklings, unlike the Pugachevites, we were and could stand up for ourselves without appealing to the authorities and the cops. It seems that all organized crime groups should pay attention to this city and take it under their control. All the same, the local population is overwhelmingly female. It doesn’t matter who will have them: Russian or non-Russian. They'll screw you over anyway. You just need to push them a little. Disgrace!!!
    1. +8
      9 July 2013 12: 48
      Well, it’s clear, you’ve dealt with the Russian “gopota”, respect to you. And how do the same Caucasians behave in your city? If you have built them, then urgently share your experience. how did you do it, in what field did you unite in your informal society, how did you act, were there any conflicts with law enforcement agencies? how they were settled, if there were... etc.

      P.S. It’s easy to calm down the Russian bully, after all, law-abidingness is there, tolerance, as they say, is absorbed with the milk of matter, but the real experience of victories over the Caucasians would be more interesting for us, isn’t it, comrades?
      1. Piterkras
        -5
        9 July 2013 13: 01
        Presumptuous Caucasians are the same gopniks. You need to act with them according to the same schemes every day. But some people just don’t have the guts to deal with them. Immediately they make excuses about the 282nd, about the genocide of the Path and bribed cops.
    2. Nevsky
      +1
      9 July 2013 13: 13
      Piterkras

      Who do you represent: ethnicity, social group?! Yes, we miss the Solntsevskys and other Slavic organized crime groups that restored order in the 90s. (they were real patriotic authorities?)

      Piterkras, here are the reasons in brief that led to your censure of the Russians:

      We are changing. We become consumers. Today, in the school in my district where I grew up and studied (outskirts of the city), where they broke my face on September 1st, just because I was from the city center and dressed like a dude, there are already boys in spirit and in clothes Almost like girls, there are no fights or showdowns at all! Everything grows as if in a greenhouse, well, almost everything. Are these objective processes associated with consumer society? - Yes. Do they need to be discussed and sound the alarm? I think it's necessary. The words from this song that are below at 2:04 minutes will best convey my idea. The bottom line: soft-bodied consumers are coming, the time of tough guys is passing, who will we draft into the army?:



      Article: http://topwar.ru/29984-davayte-sverim-nashi-chasy.html
      1. Piterkras
        +3
        9 July 2013 13: 21
        I am Russian. I served in the Army for 2 years, and I perceive the current howls of the civilian part of the population, especially those who have turned away from the Army, with a smile. Well, it’s exactly the same in the Army and in the Civilian. The same problem: the disunity of Russians makes us weak. Even Khan Batu made a profit in his time, when the princes of the fragmented Kievan Rus fell under the yoke due to civil strife, and Novgorod pretended that he was not there at all and was not in business. In the end, everyone hit big laughing ...

        And Russian organized crime groups like the Orekhovskys fought against Caucasians not because they loved Russians very much, but because all sorts of black organized crime groups were crushing the economic tidbits of Moscow for themselves...
        1. Nevsky
          +1
          9 July 2013 13: 51
          Quote: piterkras

          And Russian organized crime groups like the Orekhovskys fought against Caucasians not because they loved Russians very much, but because all sorts of black organized crime groups were crushing the economic tidbits of Moscow for themselves...


          You did not understand. As soon as the Spartan conditions left our society, almost everyone immediately became common amoebas. It is precisely in provinces such as Pugachevo that the peasant spirit is still preserved. And the Russian won the fight. It’s just that in your time, brute physical force decided, and it put an end to it. You can drench the entire Chechen quarter in your city with blood (or as you put it with physical education), but you will be judged as an aggressor or even a terrorist. And in the 90s, the power really was on the street, today it is pumped into the offices + the factor of the same consumption. So there is no need to talk about how it was before...
          1. Piterkras
            -5
            9 July 2013 13: 58
            What kind of peasant spirit is there in this Pugachovo? Some Tsapkov should be sent there. Let the locals milk the locals together with the Caucasians. Profit is guaranteed.
        2. Yarbay
          -1
          9 July 2013 13: 59
          Quote: piterkras
          And Russian organized crime groups like the Orekhovskys fought against Caucasians not because they loved Russians very much, but because all sorts of black organized crime groups were crushing the economic tidbits of Moscow for themselves.

          absolutely right!!
    3. +1
      9 July 2013 15: 20
      Quote: piterkras
      Piterkras


      The delirium of a shell-shocked man! The authorities should deal with this and the Ministry of Internal Affairs and not ordinary people. For what are they needed for then? Absurd!
    4. 0
      10 July 2013 16: 01
      Boorish stupid "essay". You have to decide for yourself.. I can’t do it myself.. How old are you? This is a pogrom and mass murder! This is a crime! Are you calling for this? So that a wave of mass murders of those who are “Caucasian” would sweep across Russia? Turn on your brain.
  70. +2
    9 July 2013 12: 37
    The Russian people are patient people. But someday all patience comes to an end, and it seems that this end is already coming.
    1. Piterkras
      -8
      9 July 2013 13: 02
      Yeah, it's the same excuse all the time. If we really could do something, we would have shown it long ago. And so stupidly we just calm ourselves down. Wait further.
      1. +3
        9 July 2013 13: 09
        There are specific examples of “calming down” presumptuous guests....I would just like to know about your experience....One thing I can say is that I specifically devote a lot of time to studying this problem, people are beginning to awaken their self-esteem and sense of self-preservation and understanding, that you need to respond blow to blow, there are already many examples of this...-)
        There was a case in Voronezh when in the evening the Dags attacked African students and completely ripped them off :) The question is - on whose side was public opinion and support? :)
  71. Penachet
    +3
    9 July 2013 12: 38
    Quote: Yarbay

    Yes, what a diaspora do not grind nonsense!
    Just surely relatives were thrown off at best!


    Yes, Alibek, there are diasporas in every region (region, etc.) My relative was almost taken to the zone when he hit three Dagestanis at a bus stop so hard that they ended up in the hospital (the wrestlers were coming out of training and ran over him), the diaspora was connected, and very strongly connected. I’ll omit the details, they paid off. And you are simply biased towards many comments, in my opinion.
    1. Piterkras
      -10
      9 July 2013 13: 06
      Well done to these Caucasian diasporas. They don’t let their own people be offended. We could learn from this.
      1. Yarbay
        0
        9 July 2013 13: 42
        Quote: piterkras
        Well done to these Caucasian diasporas. They don’t let their own people be offended. We could learn from this.

        It's funny to read))
        They're scamming you!)))
        1. Piterkras
          -5
          9 July 2013 13: 46
          Judging by the events in Pugachevo, the Russians are being scammed, heh heh heh...
    2. Lakkuchu
      0
      9 July 2013 14: 39
      He attacked three fighters so much that they ended up in the hospital (some kind of Terminator in the process) and they also paid off? Something is turning out awkward somehow.
      1. Penachet
        0
        9 July 2013 15: 06
        Not a terminator, but he takes care of himself, and HE paid off criminal prosecution, they reported him (Dagestanians, that is), you need to read carefully
        1. Lakkuchu
          0
          9 July 2013 15: 46
          This means that the Russians are also paying off, but if you read the comments, it turns out that only Caucasians are paying off.
          1. Yarbay
            -2
            9 July 2013 16: 01
            Quote: Lakkuchu
            This means that the Russians are also paying off, but if you read the comments, it turns out that only Caucasians are paying off.

            Bravo)))))))))))
          2. Penachet
            +1
            9 July 2013 16: 28
            Lakkuchu (1) RU
            This means that the Russians are also paying off, but if you read the comments, it turns out that only Caucasians are paying off.

            Did you just find out about this? That the Russians are paying off too? What country are you writing from? The same applies to Alibek, Azerbaijanis probably don’t pay you off, only in Russia.
  72. RPD
    +4
    9 July 2013 13: 03
    Why haven’t they found Russian fascists there yet????
  73. Muxauk
    -3
    9 July 2013 13: 06
    when I started reading Topvar there were decent people here, now there are a lot of provocateurs. It’s not a matter of nationality, impudence must be stopped in the bud, the local authorities are to blame, but not the GDP.
    Why attribute Kadyrov, he doesn’t monitor every Chechen, he leads his own republic
  74. Muxauk
    -4
    9 July 2013 13: 07
    when I started reading Topvar there were decent people here, now there are a lot of provocateurs. It’s not a matter of nationality, impudence must be stopped in the bud, the local authorities are to blame, but not the GDP.
    Why attribute Kadyrov, he doesn’t monitor every Chechen, he leads his own republic
    1. +3
      9 July 2013 13: 22
      Very interesting idea.........
      The Tsar is good, his boyars are deceiving him!!!!!
      What nonsense.
      If they steal from a warehouse, the watchman is to blame!!!!!!
  75. waisson
    0
    9 July 2013 13: 14
    Ramzan Kadyrov expressed condolences to the family of a resident of the city of Pugachev, Ruslan Marzhanov, who was killed by a teenager who came from Chechnya.
    1. waisson
      0
      9 July 2013 18: 06
      showed off
  76. EGORKA
    +4
    9 July 2013 13: 25
    Quote: piterkras
    Shame !!!

    there is no shame in the fact that the people are trying to demand that the authorities implement the law and take action; as a rule, this happens to the most defenseless sections of the population; the strong are not touched. The shame is that the local authorities do nothing and are simply paid off from it. And in order to resist, we need to raise children from childhood like animals... point out and instill hatred. Well, Russians don’t have the complex towards Caucasians that they have when some of them try to prove to us that they are the most masculine men. There is no normal immunity yet to this internal infection, it exists only to the external threat.
    Here some from the Caucasus are trying to show that you Russians look at yourselves, and we have scumbags, but we don’t have what sits inside, for example, the majority of the same Chechens, this bitterness .... the Chechen war is a common tragedy. And I would I believed that the Russians were no less to blame, if not for one thing! In addition to the peoples of the Caucasus, more than 100 nationalities and religions live in Russia, but there are no such problems.
    1. sumcream56
      +2
      9 July 2013 14: 36
      But I’m not tired of smearing the entire Caucasus with the same paint. Name at least one incident with Kabardians, Balkars, Karachais, not to mention the Ossetians. Dagestanis are the same as Soviet people. There are more than 100 nationalities in Dagestan. And if you look at it, all the jokes come from the Chechens, Ingush, Avars, Dargins. You won’t hear about any Kumyks or Lezgins. By the way, Chechen-Akin people also live in Dagestan.
      1. Lakkuchu
        0
        9 July 2013 16: 20
        Quote: sumcream56
        I’m not tired of painting the entire Caucasus with the same paint...

        This is how the trend is expressed now. They were right about nationalities; it’s clear that you know Caucasians quite well.
  77. Piterkras
    -8
    9 July 2013 13: 33
    Once again, the Russian widespread drunkenness is to blame, with everyone knee-deep in the sea. How long will we drink, citizens, and allow ourselves to be cut by both our own and others?
  78. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 13: 34
    Quote: piterkras
    Yeah, it's the same excuse all the time. If we really could do something, we would have shown it long ago. And so stupidly we just calm ourselves down. Wait further.

    some kind of provocation? there is no need to take us for a show-off) and prove something in the spirit that you are hinting about, this is a last resort. There are other methods, you need to treat your nation from disunity, drug addiction, etc., to raise a strong nation even in the weakest social strata, to force work law and officials.
  79. 0
    9 July 2013 13: 44
    the head of the administration is Radaev... I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s Russian only by passport...
  80. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 13: 58
    Quote: Egevich
    the head of the administration is Radaev... I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s Russian only by passport...

    I don’t care, if he and the local authorities clearly did their job - compliance with the laws, then everyday life would not turn into national conflicts! if the authorities carried out explanatory work with the population and the same Chechens about an adequate reaction, not carrying bladed weapons, then it could have just been a fight - they got into a fight and separated, but they carry daggers with them and similar tragedies are repeated.
  81. soldier's grandson
    +1
    9 July 2013 14: 11
    Quote: erased
    Kadyrov should do more to educate his young thugs.

    He is busy with education. We see the results. Kadyrov’s new army will soon be ready for action throughout Russia, and then blood will flow. Everything is as planned.

    I heard this from a Caucasian, they no longer hide it, they say that we still have drunks and drug addicts and whores, so they are not afraid, knowing that power has already been bought
  82. lds040580
    +1
    9 July 2013 14: 16
    Quote: Penachet
    Quote: Yarbay

    Yes, what a diaspora do not grind nonsense!
    Just surely relatives were thrown off at best!


    Yes, Alibek, there are diasporas in every region (region, etc.) My relative was almost taken to the zone when he hit three Dagestanis at a bus stop so hard that they ended up in the hospital (the wrestlers were coming out of training and ran over him), the diaspora was connected, and very strongly connected. I’ll omit the details, they paid off. And you are simply biased towards many comments, in my opinion.

    oooh three at once... - cool!!!
    1. Yarbay
      -1
      9 July 2013 14: 36
      Quote: lds040580
      oooh three at once... - cool!!!

      I didn’t immediately notice the quantity))) definitely Ilya Muromets))))))
      1. Penachet
        0
        9 July 2013 16: 40
        Well, it’s not good to play around like that, maybe you’ll come and try? So you are welcome, you can come for more than three. I’m disappointed in you, Alibek, that’s how they always wrote culturally, how they switched to the Turkish flag with marshal’s shoulder straps, that’s all.
        1. Yarbay
          +1
          9 July 2013 16: 52
          Quote: Penachet
          Well, it’s not good to play around like that, maybe you’ll come and try?

          I'm too old for these things!))))
          And with three fighters, even with Russians, even with Dagestanis, even with Cubans, I would prefer to drink tea rather than try to send them to the hospital, they would rather send me there, which in the current state of my health is mortally dangerous for me))
          Quote: Penachet
          I'm disappointed in you, Alibek


          I’ve already reset my rating here, that is, this is not the first time this has happened on local uniforms, and if you’ve known me for a long time, then you know I don’t care about these shoulder straps!
          I didn’t want to offend you, if I did, I’m sorry, but it’s very difficult for me to believe this!
          1. Penachet
            +3
            9 July 2013 17: 10
            Yarbay (3) TR
            I didn’t want to offend you, if I did, I’m sorry, but it’s very difficult for me to believe this!

            Believe me, it happened. Maybe the wrestlers were bad, but he only needed 5 blows, 3 with his hands, 2 with his feet, and in the hospital two were with light beatings, one with moderate injuries. He kicked him in the chest, the blue one was very bad. And problems there was a lot. At first they didn’t initiate a case, their dads took everyone there, but there were Russian dads. And then the big guys got involved, and the case was set in motion. And so it turned out that it exceeded self-defense. One against three. And they were the first to attack. So and that's all. I accept my apologies.
  83. RPD
    +2
    9 July 2013 14: 19
    Our youth don’t consider you people. Why? because you don’t live up to your word, your women walk around, and no one cares about this, neither brother nor father, you understand? Your people drink black, you have no God, you only have a culture of drinking and adultery, you are nobody, you are nonentities. Do you understand? I live in Moscow, and I do this out of necessity, but I would be glad not to see or know you at all. In short, stop being clever here, go to your LJ with people like you. I came to negotiate, we have no one to negotiate with, we need to kill you and that’s it, clean the ground.

    Rasimi/
    The very first thing we must do (when I say we, I mean all non-Slavs living in the Russian Federation). We all need to understand that they want to live without us, without non-Russians. Leaders of all nations—yes, leaders, not leaders—must get together and prepare a peaceful secession from the Russian Federation and the creation of a new confederation without Russians, from the Caucasus to the Far East. At the moment, ban parties that support Russian fascists in their republics.

    from Caucasian forums
  84. Piterkras
    0
    9 July 2013 14: 20
    Everyone here is funny. They will end up in Tyrnet and go about their business. And everything will remain as it is. Stubborn virtuals, hehe...
  85. RPD
    +2
    9 July 2013 14: 24
    On this occasion, I propose to gather on the 15th (15.12.2010/18/00) near the Evropeisky shopping center at XNUMX:XNUMX. We will decide on further actions on the spot.
    And it is not one of us who, with the cowardice of a jackal, will sit in a warm chair at home and tremble with fear of the Uruses, tucking his jackal tail. Will the humiliation of our peoples before Russia continue? We live here, work, communicate not only with each other, but our circle of friends also includes people of Slavic ethnicity. But how long should we be the objects of guilt in all mortal sins? It’s time to unite, despite our international strife, and fight back.

    *Please do not take weapons without permission to carry weapons. Most likely there will be enough police representatives, so there may be checks.

    it has only trained its throats in stadiums, but it won’t be able to do push-ups five times in a row. either their stomachs below the knees get in the way, or their arms are like ropes)) and finally, without beer, they don’t really feel like heroes, but they don’t feel like people either))
    I know this riffraff well! shitdogs who consider themselves wolfhounds))))

    In short, the “Russian” bastard, fueled by clearly who, is becoming impudent and her nonsense is gaining momentum.
    If someone doesn’t have a permit to carry a weapon, they need to take short but sharp knives and screwdrivers so that they can hit you right in the eye. You need to stock up the fittings in advance. I remember when the DPNI was meeting, they had fittings stuck in places.
    You don't need a lot of things there. It’s enough to make a couple of dozen scream, the rest will run away on their own. They are heroes only against individuals and in crowds.

    from Caucasian forums
    For Russian compatriots, killing is not a crime
    1. Yarbay
      -3
      9 July 2013 14: 50
      Quote: RPD
      For Russian compatriots, killing is not a crime

      Why are you provoking??
      where is this written??
      Do Russian teenagers write the same thing?
      1. RPD
        +4
        9 July 2013 15: 22
        Russians are in prison for this. I don’t engage in provocation, I don’t need it. Watch your little ones and teach them to live in peace. While the opposite is observed, here you sing songs about peace and peace to us, but on the street you try to stick a feather in your side
        1. Yarbay
          -4
          9 July 2013 15: 56
          Quote: RPD
          Russians are in prison for this.

          Where are they sitting???
          Crowds with fascist greetings walk through your cities and write worse than this and no one is imprisoning them!!
          Quote: RPD
          watch your little ones and teach them to live in peace

          I don’t need to look after mine, they are well-educated enough!
          But you need to watch and learn a lot yourself, including not inciting people from around the corner like a mongrel!!!
          1. RPD
            +1
            9 July 2013 16: 16
            like a mongrel... well, another nail in the friendship of peoples
    2. +3
      9 July 2013 14: 50
      It’s a pity that I don’t live in Moscow, otherwise I would definitely have taken a knife and a bagpipe. And more than one would come, otherwise you can have a crowd of one, so why can’t the Slavs. By the way, regarding drunkenness and drugs, you are not far behind us.
      And you have only one need, pack your clothes and go home.
  86. EGORKA
    +2
    9 July 2013 14: 30
    Quote: RPD
    Our youth don’t consider you people. Why? because you don’t live up to your word, your women walk around, and no one cares about this, neither brother nor father, you understand? Your people drink black, you have no God, you only have a culture of drinking and adultery, you are nobody, you are nonentities. Do you understand? I live in Moscow, and I do this out of necessity, but I would be glad not to see or know you at all. In short, stop being clever here, go to your LJ with people like you. I came to negotiate, we have no one to negotiate with, we need to kill you and that’s it, clean the ground.

    Rasimi/
    The very first thing we must do (when I say we, I mean all non-Slavs living in the Russian Federation). We all need to understand that they want to live without us, without non-Russians. Leaders of all nations—yes, leaders, not leaders—must get together and prepare a peaceful secession from the Russian Federation and the creation of a new confederation without Russians, from the Caucasus to the Far East. At the moment, ban parties that support Russian fascists in their republics.

    from Caucasian forums

    First of all, this is bragging...

    on the second
    these are clearly not smart people, without the Russians they will begin to kill each other firstly, and secondly they won’t be strong enough to hold on to such a confederation)) The Chinese, the Japanese, the Americans - if you raise them, they will live better, there are clearly petty people on the forum, they don’t realize that no one will give them anything... he gets rich in thoughts)
  87. RPD
    +1
    9 July 2013 14: 37
    these are clearly not smart people pisyukal,

    Yes, I’ll try smart or stupid (for me, the brains are generally strained), the main thing is that these ideas go to the masses and are consolidated there. and the fact that some characters tell us about the friendship of peoples, it’s all from the evil one
  88. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 14: 45
    [quote=RPD][/quote]
    from Caucasian forums
    [/ Quote]

    The authorities should also do this, and also conduct a smart national policy, but alas, all this leads to this
  89. EGORKA
    +2
    9 July 2013 14: 46
    [quote=grandson of a soldier][quote=ster]
    I heard this from a Caucasian, they no longer hide it, they say that we still have drunks and drug addicts and whores, so they are not afraid, knowing that power has already been bought[/quote]
    whores are corrupt officials
  90. diesel
    +1
    9 July 2013 14: 50
    The first decision is to kill it, this is a mistake, a decision suggested by provocateurs and priests Gapons or out of ignorance. This is what the authorities are waiting for in order to identify the leaders and decapitate popular indignation. Read KOB, then type in Yandex, we need to understand what is happening, where we are being pushed, and what we need ourselves. Starting from Machiavelli and ending with our constitution, the source of power is the people, 82% of Russians in the country, we are the source of power, that’s what they are afraid of. We need explanatory work, joining communities on any basis (drivers, fishermen, hunters, etc.) on the Internet. Communities have the right to publicly and collectively demand explanations and accounts; we need to read more laws, discuss problems, we need to find time for this. We are deliberately driven into poverty so that we live with one thought: how to survive. There is an organization in all regions - the Conceptual Party of Unity, whose ideology is based on the Concept of Public Security. The pressure on the authorities within the framework of the law has an even stronger effect on them; extremism cannot be attached here.
  91. EGORKA
    +1
    9 July 2013 14: 54
    Quote: RPD
    these are clearly not smart people pisyukal,

    Yes, I’ll try smart or stupid (for me, the brains are generally strained), the main thing is that these ideas go to the masses and are consolidated there. and the fact that some characters tell us about the friendship of peoples, it’s all from the evil one


    But not everyone in the Caucasus is like that, there are normal and adequate ones, just as there are stupid people among Russians, the whole point is that, by and large, the state put a stake in all these processes, and the friendship of the peoples of Russia must not only be proclaimed, but reinforced with deeds, monitor and control, but this is not done enough.
  92. diesel
    0
    9 July 2013 14: 54
    [quote=EGORKA]
    EGORKA


    Today, 14: 45

    ↓ New


    [quote=RPD][/quote]from the Caucasus forums[/quote]the authorities should also do this, and also pursue a smart national policy, but alas, all this leads to this[/quote]
    Where is the smart government on the ground? On May 9, onni put wreaths on the graves of veterans, and in the evening they are removed until next year, not forgetting to write off funds for this ritual
    1. sumcream56
      +1
      9 July 2013 16: 04
      The authorities are engaged in their own business 90% of the time. They don’t get around to all the problems - they count the money. All this is reminiscent of the policy of England and France in Munich in 1938 - “appeasement of the aggressor.”
  93. EGORKA
    0
    9 July 2013 14: 56
    You can talk as much as you like, you have to act.
    1. MG42
      +2
      9 July 2013 17: 36
      From Ukraine it is difficult to judge the scale of the problem, but it exists >>> I watched a lot of videos on this topic, >>>> at least remember the Chechen pogrom in the cafe "Shchepka" in the city of Kemerovo, where people with T-shirts with the inscription "Chechnya" simply beat up visitors cafe, I wonder who knows the continuation of this story, was anyone punished?
  94. +4
    9 July 2013 15: 02
    I am sure that if a Russian had stabbed a Chechen in Chechnya, he would have lived exactly until the relatives of the murdered man arrived... a similar situation with what happened in Pugachev occurs hourly in the cities of Slavic Russia. Visitors from the Caucasus and from the nearby “uh brother mom clanus” republics behave like winners - brazenly impudent and boorish. and we see this and avert our eyes so as not to get hit in the snout...
    1. Yarbay
      -4
      9 July 2013 16: 07
      Quote: awg75
      I am sure that if a Russian had killed a Chechen in Chechnya, he would have lived exactly until the relatives of the murdered man arrived.

      For this you also need to have eggs!!
      Who is stopping you from personally going to Pugachevo and taking revenge on that 16 year old boy???
      Why bother here and bring up incredible scenarios????
      Have you been to Chechnya yourself??
      I don’t care about anyone’s nationality, the main thing is to be a person!
      It doesn’t matter to me whether a Chechen, Dagestani, Russian or Bulgarian will squirm somewhere, for evil people we ourselves are wolves!!
  95. +4
    9 July 2013 15: 27
    Got them black...ass bandits. Everyone to the wall, and not feed Chechnya with money from taxes collected from the pensions of Russian old women somewhere in Ryazan.
  96. Muxauk
    0
    9 July 2013 15: 31
    Quote: EGORKA
    Quote: RPD
    these are clearly not smart people pisyukal,

    Yes, I’ll try smart or stupid (for me, the brains are generally strained), the main thing is that these ideas go to the masses and are consolidated there. and the fact that some characters tell us about the friendship of peoples, it’s all from the evil one


    But not everyone in the Caucasus is like that, there are normal and adequate ones, just as there are stupid people among Russians, the whole point is that, by and large, the state put a stake in all these processes, and the friendship of the peoples of Russia must not only be proclaimed, but reinforced with deeds, monitor and control, but this is not done enough.

    I agree, many people simply do not understand that after the Chechen wars, Chechnya was thrown back, and now we are reaping the benefits. Why doesn’t anyone say that with our boys, normal Chechens who were loyal to Russia died there? Why doesn’t anyone think that normal people don’t shine and live their lives, but all that is visible is the “” that pops up and announces itself to everyone. This should not even be presented to the Chechens, but to the authorities, who first allowed the Chechen wars, then did not give them education, and now there are no fair punishments for the crimes. This is where the stupid 282 incitement of ethnic hatred begins. What difference does it make that 2 deer wrote on their forum, a group does not make a nation, we have a bunch of our own. We don’t even see the simple reasons for all this, but we need to shoot everyone right away. Well, let's shoot them, so what? How will we be better? Because the fraternal people were killed? In every nation there are those who should be shot, but unfortunately this measure does not exist. Maybe we should support those Chechens who restore order, those Caucasians who consider themselves Russian, so that they can educate the younger generation? I know they’ll downvote me now because I didn’t offer to go kill them, bomb them and humiliate them.
    Someone wrote that there are a lot of Putin’s opponents here, in my opinion liberals have started to fly here. First, find someone better than Putin, and don’t offer anal to the forest thief. The opposition should not shout about how bad the government is, especially in front of them, and organize revolutions, but do business.
    1. +5
      9 July 2013 17: 03
      Agree

      Someone wrote that there are a lot of Putin’s opponents here, in my opinion liberals have started to fly here. First, find someone better than Putin, and don’t offer anal to the forest thief

      I do not agree.
      I’m far from a liberal. But I see what’s happening in the country under Putin’s leadership and I don’t like it at all. I won’t give a list of complaints against him, but I don’t believe in this man. He won’t be of any use and it’s a pity that there is no alternative sad
      1. +1
        9 July 2013 18: 58
        An alternative to KVACHKOV. That's why it sits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
  97. VkadimirEfimov1942
    +2
    9 July 2013 15: 35
    They are doing the right thing, and how can the savages be stopped? They don’t understand another language. They only understand the language of violence. They are afraid in their village, otherwise the reaction will be harsh.
    1. sumcream56
      0
      9 July 2013 16: 02
      The trouble is that they are complete masters in their own village. Unless dad can scold for the sake of his own authority. But whoever is against it is a Wahhabi - he lies in his grave.
  98. +2
    9 July 2013 15: 37
    The events in Pugachev are another wake-up call for the entire leadership of the country. In my opinion, Putin is now definitely becoming like Stalin, all the big shots are on him, neither iPhone, nor Kolokoltsev and similar ministers are responsible in the country for the current situation.
    The vertical of power in our country is increasingly similar to a tsunami or an earthquake - the further the epicenter, the smaller the wave. The lion may roar loudly in Moscow, but only in Pugachev, this is already a mosquito squeak, which does not frighten the mayor and governor at all, because they They surrounded themselves with the same mongrels and are covering for each other, busy cutting up the local budget and not the life of the region, region, etc.
    The bell is already ringing more and more often and is becoming like the ringing of a bell. The people can no longer tolerate many things, and conflicts on ethnic grounds are one of the most dangerous time bombs.
    Many remember what it led to: "From the work "May Day of the Revolutionary Proletariat" (1913) by V.I. Lenin (1870-1924): "For a revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires that the upper classes could not manage and manage as before.”

    The same idea is also found in the works “The Collapse of the Second International” (1915) and “The Infantile Disease of “Leftism” in Communism” (1920). The last work says: “Only when the “bottoms” do not want the old and when the “tops” cannot do the old things, only then can the revolution win.”

    The inaction of the authorities in this matter can help all sorts of “swamp creatures” blow up the country from the inside, so whether the authorities want it or not, it’s time for them to take decisive steps to resolve such conflicts too, otherwise we will soon see a Lezginka on Red Square, at best.
  99. Muxauk
    +1
    9 July 2013 15: 42
    Quote: mhpv
    The events in Pugachev are another wake-up call for the entire leadership of the country. In my opinion, Putin is now definitely becoming like Stalin, all the big shots are on him, neither iPhone, nor Kolokoltsev and similar ministers are responsible in the country for the current situation.
    The vertical of power in our country is increasingly similar to a tsunami or an earthquake - the further the epicenter, the smaller the wave. The lion may roar loudly in Moscow, but only in Pugachev, this is already a mosquito squeak, which does not frighten the mayor and governor at all, because they They surrounded themselves with the same mongrels and are covering for each other, busy cutting up the local budget and not the life of the region, region, etc.
    The bell is already ringing more and more often and is becoming like the ringing of a bell. The people can no longer tolerate many things, and conflicts on ethnic grounds are one of the most dangerous time bombs.
    Many remember what it led to: "From the work "May Day of the Revolutionary Proletariat" (1913) by V.I. Lenin (1870-1924): "For a revolution, it is not enough that the lower classes do not want to live as before. It also requires that the upper classes could not manage and manage as before.”

    The same idea is also found in the works “The Collapse of the Second International” (1915) and “The Infantile Disease of “Leftism” in Communism” (1920). The last work says: “Only when the “bottoms” do not want the old and when the “tops” cannot do the old things, only then can the revolution win.”

    The inaction of the authorities in this matter can help all sorts of “swamp creatures” blow up the country from the inside, so whether the authorities want it or not, it’s time for them to take decisive steps to resolve such conflicts too, otherwise we will soon see a Lezginka on Red Square, at best.

    Only Stalin had more power than Putin. Give him full freedom and the death penalty, I think people like Chubais would immediately be sent to eat lead with their foreheads. But it’s still difficult to dislodge some of the big shots, since they’re firmly entrenched
    1. 0
      9 July 2013 16: 14
      Stalin had exactly as much power as the party elite allowed, who were afraid of responsibility for the country before the people. It was beneficial for them, if something was wrong, Stalin was to blame, but as soon as Stalin tried to abdicate all this rabble from power, they were afraid that they would be torn away from their sweet life, and many will have to answer for their Dolce Vita and Hakuna Matata. The result is known.
  100. -3
    9 July 2013 15: 56
    Damn, why did the friction between them begin???
    just understand, I myself participated in many fights in my youth, my roots are always in everyday life. Ali and Valera accidentally bumped into each other at the entrance, let's go, what are you doing))
    Then Ali dismantled his people to collect them, they say, with the Rusak (after all, he will not explain with whom, due to unfamiliarity) and the same thing with Vlora, they quarreled with a chock and a clash of groups, and after some time the people who beat each other in another brawl will for each other, as if everyone had mutual acquaintances.
    The authorities must stop everything in time.
    But now the situation is such that no one looks at who is to blame. They just pay attention to the nation.
    I am more than sure that if tomorrow, some Russian accidentally hurt me and in response to my requests to apologize, he will send me and have a family, I will stab him with a knife. But he will blame me. The same thing is the other way around.
    The situation became stalemate. In multinational Russia, this is dangerous. The events in Pugachev showed that not only the guy who killed was to blame, but all the Chechens of the city.
    The collapse of the USSR was the first stage, the second stage is the collapse of Russia and seeing the inaction of the authorities creates the feeling that everything is repeating itself, escalation, escalation, inaction and boom.
    1. +9
      9 July 2013 16: 09
      How about without a knife? Just a knife? What if someone considers your words or sidelong glance an insult and just stabs you with a knife without talking? You don’t seem to be frostbitten, but you write such nonsense. And then the question is - why don’t they like Caucasians? Yes, for this I’ll “stab him with a knife”... including. I agree that everyone has boors everywhere, but why the hell would you immediately grab a knife?!
      1. Yarbay
        -4
        9 July 2013 16: 34
        Quote: Mairos
        How about without a knife?

        Here Ali is right, if you insulted your mother or family, you can’t just hit them in the face!
        I never swore even in a fight, because I knew that if anyone answered me, I would kill me!!
        Mother and family are sacred!
        If I can strangle you with my hand, then there’s no need for a knife!
        it's my opinion!
        1. +2
          9 July 2013 17: 51
          However.. and after this someone calls on someone to obey the LAW and talks about conscience? Well, if we ALL start to cut ourselves... based on traditions and defending our sacred... Traditions are traditions, but why do we wear brains? I once tried to find out from one Uzbek why when one of the Uzbeks says “..your mother” to him in Uzbek, it’s okay, but when the same thing is said in Russian, he starts to get mad. So, all he could say was that when in Uzbek it’s from emotions, but in Russian, it means that’s what they’re saying directly about his mother. I think there is no need to explain to you that in 90% of cases everyone says this and always out of emotion. I don’t swear at all, but I don’t approve of your (Yarbay, Yeraz) approaches. Hmm, if this is what adults, smart and quite adequate people here think when communicating... Perhaps the Russians will also soon begin to carry knives and use them if someone touches something sacred, according to the Russians. This is scary, guys, but are we really going to slide back to the primitive system?
          1. Yarbay
            0
            9 July 2013 18: 33
            Quote: Mairos
            I think there is no need to explain to you that in 90% of cases everyone says this and always out of emotion.

            I agree! But my uncle at one time almost shot the entire family of one of his neighbors for the least insult, although it depends on who! He killed one, wounded two!
            People are different, some just chat, others do nothing without telling anyone!
            But the person who committed the crime must be imprisoned!
            I am convinced of this !!
            You can't do him any favors!!
            I just expressed my opinion!
            Quote: Mairos
            I don’t swear at all, but I don’t approve of your (Yarbay, Yeraz) approaches

            I don't swear either!
            All my life I behaved in such a way that no one would even think of saying something like that to me!
            1. 0
              10 July 2013 09: 56
              Sorry, without getting too personal, but your uncle behaved like a psychopath and a mentally ill person. How can you let yourself go like that? If you don’t control yourself within the framework of the law (LAW and not TRADITION), go to the forest (mountains, desert) and live there as a hermit. This is antisocial behavior. Wasn't he killed for this? I am a balanced person, but if someone started shooting at my loved ones for a word spoken in a quarrel, then I would have killed him if he had not been given a life sentence. Not because he would take revenge, but because people who behave this way must either be isolated forever or stopped... in any way.
              1. Yarbay
                0
                10 July 2013 14: 01
                Quote: Mairos
                I am a balanced person, but if someone would shoot my loved ones for a word spoken in a quarrel
                This was not a word spoken in a quarrel!!
                It was completely different!
                This was deliberate spreading of slander!
                Uncle acted correctly, but then he was in a state of passion!!
                1. 0
                  10 July 2013 14: 49
                  About the state of passion - I know what it is. But this arises precisely in a quarrel or dispute. What, the whole family was spreading slander there? Or maybe someone made a mistake and told him an erroneous opinion or a rumor started. What if someone set them up on purpose? Is this out of the question?
                  Resolving a dispute or expressing your outrage over the shooting of a family is antisocial and criminal. I consider this acceptable in self-defense and nothing more. Yes, there is still affect... it can also be, but again, during the active phase of the conflict.
                  Well, out of despair, a person can kill a huckster, a drug dealer, for whom there is no justice and the cops are covering for him.
                  But you cannot consciously cut or kill for words, even offensive ones.
                  1. Yarbay
                    0
                    10 July 2013 16: 27
                    Quote: Mairos
                    Yes, there is still affect... it can also be, but again, during the active phase of the conflict.

                    When I killed the culprit, his brothers came running!!
                    I put them in too!
                    Quote: Mairos
                    What, the whole family was spreading slander there?

                    I killed only the culprit, others fell under the hot hand!
                    Quote: Mairos
                    what if someone set them up on purpose? Is this out of the question?

                    Excluded!! The culprit confessed and also in a daring manner!!
                    Quote: Mairos
                    But you cannot consciously cut or kill for words, even offensive ones.

                    It is possible and necessary!!
          2. +2
            9 July 2013 20: 07
            Quote: Mairos
            Perhaps the Russians will also soon begin to carry knives and use them if someone touches something sacred, according to the Russians.

            And they will do the right thing, if things that are sacred to you are being encroached on, do it in such a way that it does not occur to the next person.
            Why did the Pussy Wrights go to the church, but didn’t think of going into the mosque?? Let these femen try to go into a mosque in an Islamic country, they wouldn’t walk a meter.
            if things are unshakable and when they begin to condemn this, they say, primitiveness entails even bigger problems, such as the fact that some Caucasians allow themselves to be behaved, but upon arrival in other Caucasian republics it is immediately different. Are they changed along the way??? No, they just know, here they will specifically imprison you for such behavior without being interested in whose son you are and how much money you have, and even in corrupt republics you can’t pay off, but in Russia you can calmly do whatever you want. And that’s how the problem has grown.
            1. +8
              9 July 2013 20: 15
              Quote: Yeraz
              And they’ll do it right

              For Russians, a knife or sharpening in a fight has always been taboo. This is the weapon of cowards and weaklings.
              And therefore, do not tell Russians how to live, so that they do not advise you where to go. In your homeland, engage in stabbing as much as you want, whenever you want. But in Russia there is no point in establishing its own rules.
              1. 0
                9 July 2013 21: 31
                Quote: Spade
                For Russians, a knife or sharpening in a fight has always been taboo. This is the weapon of cowards and weaklings.
                And therefore, do not tell Russians how to live, so that they do not advise you where to go. In your homeland, engage in stabbing as much as you want, whenever you want. But in Russia there is no point in establishing its own rules.

                Yes, for a moment I forgot who I’m writing a comment to, I can’t prove anything to you in life, I just wasted my time.
              2. Yarbay
                0
                9 July 2013 21: 36
                Quote: Spade
                For Russians, a knife or sharpening in a fight has always been taboo

                Nonsense !!
                I saw Russians who carried knives and beat them with them when necessary and were not weak!! Nothing was taboo, these were just excuses of a coward!
                Quote: Spade
                This is the weapon of cowards and weaklings.

                No, this is a weapon, a good weapon!!
                And owning a weapon is the prerogative of men, but of course not in our time!))))
                As Abdullah the knife said, it’s good for those who have it and bad for those who don’t have it at the right time)))))))
                1. +1
                  9 July 2013 22: 00
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  I saw Russians who carried knives and beat them with them when necessary and were not weak

                  Some kind of scumbags. The first candidates in the zone to be punished for lawlessness.

                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Nothing was taboo, these were just excuses from a coward!

                  It's yours. I came across bicycle chains with elastic bands, nunchucks, and two holes from a rake on my right thigh. Youth was fun. But I first encountered a knife in the Caucasus, in Mineralnye Vody. So there is no need to treat me. We have a different civilizational code, and with your penchant for stabbing, you better stay away from us.

                  Quote: Yarbay
                  No, this is a weapon, a good weapon!!

                  This is the weapon of a coward and a weakling. Unsure of himself and wanting to assert himself. That's how it is with us. How you do is your own business. Just don’t come at us with your knife-edge life values.
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    9 July 2013 22: 12
                    Quote: Spade
                    How you do is your own business.

                    Do you like to argue Lopatov)))
                    and you always read inattentively)))))))
                    I'm not saying that you should carry knives))))
                    I say that if necessary, the presumptuous scoundrel must be killed!!
                    How to kill it is a matter of taste and opportunity!
                    I never stabbed anyone for no reason!
                    They accidentally hit me when they were breaking me up, about 20 years ago!!
                    Since then I haven’t separated)))))) but I’ve finished))))))))
                  2. Yarbay
                    +1
                    9 July 2013 22: 15
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    Some kind of scumbags.

                    When it comes to Russians, they are just scumbags)))))
                    Come on, then more than half of your criminals are scumbags and part of the population!! First, deal with them, then be indignant)))))))
                    1. +1
                      9 July 2013 22: 27
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      When it comes to Russians, they are just scumbags

                      Exactly. Purposefully going to kill a fellow tribesman is not in the traditions of our nation. They always made do with their fists.

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Come on, then more than half of your criminals are scumbags and part of the population!! First, deal with them, then be indignant)))))))

                      For us, cutting a person is unacceptable. For you, judging by your statements with your colleague, this is normal. And this is precisely what causes my indignation.
                  3. 0
                    10 July 2013 14: 40
                    The first candidates in the zone to be punished for lawlessness.
                    Lopatov was in the zone? Was it a dubak or what? And in what camp is a free gop-stop or a wet woman with a knife serious-bodily considered lawlessness? and then in the camp they ask for this? Also tell me that in the zone itself, only cowards and weaklings hold knives and ask each other for lawlessness))
                2. +2
                  9 July 2013 22: 56
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  No, this is a weapon, a good weapon!! And the possession of a weapon is the prerogative of men, but of course not in our time!)))) As Abdullah said, a knife is good for those who have it and bad for those who do not have it at the right time )))))))

                  Yarbay, what do you say to this then:
                  "God created people weak and strong, and Colonel Colt equalized their chances."
                  Is it really time, like in America, for everyone to walk around with an equalizer of chances, what will we end up with then?
                  I liked the coach’s instruction to my son before the fight: “It’s better to lose with dignity than to remain a bungler.”
                  So, one of these two could lose, but both would just get their faces in, and grief would come to both families - in one, the death of a son, in the other, the jailer’s son, and they would probably have to leave Pugachev, they would not see a normal life there.
                  1. 0
                    9 July 2013 23: 10
                    Quote: mhpv
                    I liked the coach’s instruction to my son before the fight: “It’s better to lose with dignity than to remain a bungler.”

                    It's true. I remember once they shot me specifically in the groin. Accidentally. But even the sink didn't help much. The people were yelling “Fu” until I shook his hand, I knew that he didn’t do it on purpose. And then he didn’t jump up on his own, he waited until I finally came to my senses.
                  2. Yarbay
                    0
                    9 July 2013 23: 21
                    Quote: mhpv
                    Yarbay, what do you say to this then:
                    "God created people weak and strong, and Colonel Colt equalized their chances."
                    Is it really time, like in America, for everyone to walk around with an equalizer of chances, what will we end up with then?

                    Dear Vladimir!
                    I just trolled Lopatov a little, he likes to argue))))
                    I am categorically against carrying both firearms and bladed weapons!))))
                    Only on duty I wore both!!
                    I just know that there are things for which I will really kill and will not regret!! But this, of course, does not apply to simple fights or slight insults, and I haven’t fought for a long time)))
                    with respect!!
              3. Yarbay
                0
                9 July 2013 22: 08
                Quote: Spade
                For Russians, a knife or sharpening in a fight has always been taboo.

                Oh, oh))))))))

                A group of schoolchildren stabbed a young man several times on one of the central streets.

                Law enforcement agencies in Ryazan are investigating the brutal murder of local student Alexander Dudin. The attack on the young man took place on the evening of November 9 on Lenin Street in the city center, NEWSru.com reports.

                The police managed to find out that Alexander Dudin, together with his acquaintance Evgeny Zaikin, were returning home and stood at the Teatralnaya Ploshchad public transport stop. At that moment, a schoolboy approached them and began to threaten them with a pistol, which, as it turned out, was a toy. The students disarmed the teenager, but after a while he called for help from five peers. The teenagers had knives and clubs.

                The students tried to run away from the teenagers and hide between the cars. Evgeny got lost in the crowd, and Alexander jumped into a taxi. However, the teenagers pulled him out of there and stabbed him several times, including in the chest. Bleeding, the student crossed the road and fell near the bus stop. A girl ran up to the young man, she called an ambulance, Alexander Dudin died during hospitalization.

                It is worth noting that the terrible crime occurred in front of many people, but they all remained indifferent. The taxi driver did not react in any way to the pursuit of the young man.
                The juvenile criminals were detained. The alleged killer - a 17-year-old boy - confessed to his crime. A criminal case has been initiated under the article “Murder”
                http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1076902/

                Why didn’t the population of Ryazan demand the eviction of the relatives of these teenagers???
                As far as I remember, they killed a student over some trifle!!!
                1. 0
                  9 July 2013 22: 23
                  This is what scumbags are. Trash of the nation
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    9 July 2013 22: 55
                    Quote: Spade
                    This is what scumbags are. Trash of the nation

                    Dear Lopatov!
                    Here you are again wrong, or rather half right!!
                    No less a blight on your nation are those who walked by and did not help that student, and oh, how many of them you have!! Yes, and we are quietly moving towards this!
                    This is your problem, you are indifferent!!
                    By the way, today the month of Ramadan begins and I congratulate all Muslims and all people in general on the beginning of fasting!!
                    I sincerely wish everyone peace and prosperity and that there are fewer indifferent people!!
                    1. +1
                      9 July 2013 23: 14
                      I agree here. The one who does not help is the same killer as the one who took the knife in his hand.
                      1. Yarbay
                        +2
                        9 July 2013 23: 31
                        Quote: Spade
                        I agree here. The one who does not help is the same killer as the one who took the knife in his hand.

                        Is it part of the Russian mentality to pass by???
                        So something wrong is happening to your people, am I wrong?
                        after all, in this particular case, dozens of people left the bar, but not only did not help the victim, they did not even try to stop the fight or detain the criminal!
                      2. 0
                        9 July 2013 23: 52
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Is it part of the Russian mentality to pass by?
                        Excluded. The current times are spoiling our people. However, Pugachev’s example is encouraging. People are tired of not being involved.

                        And three killed by Chechens for 42 thousand. the city is too much.
                      3. Yarbay
                        +1
                        10 July 2013 00: 14
                        Quote: Spade
                        However, Pugachev’s example is encouraging.

                        But I’m not encouraged, because this speech is more of a biased nature and the roots of interethnic hatred are clearly visible!!
                        Quote: Spade
                        And three killed by Chechens for 42 thousand. the city is too much.

                        I repeat - this is not a fact yet!!
                        This can be spread by provocateurs!!
                        and it is still unknown how many Russians killed Russians in the same city?
                      4. +2
                        10 July 2013 09: 27
                        and it is still unknown how many Russians killed Russians in the same city?

                        Exactly. You have enough of your own shit, so why the hell is it stray?
                    2. +1
                      10 July 2013 08: 48
                      Why is Mr. Lopatov wrong? He is right, you blame the Russians for the fact that we kill each other and are indifferent to this, believe me, we are indifferent to the fact that Chechens kill Chechens... The question is, let them do it in their homeland, in their villages , it’s not possible to live peacefully side by side on our land, they don’t want to accept our customs and foundations, no need - suitcase, station and Grozny. We will somehow sort out our problems ourselves. Whether we drink, whether we don’t work, these are our problems, we don’t teach anyone how to live, but on the contrary, we only feed and support them, tearing them away from our children and the elderly
            2. +2
              10 July 2013 10: 05
              So, as you write, Caucasians can behave decently only where they are physically broken into for dishonest behavior? Then no comments! This is the level of the animal and its instinct of self-preservation (fear). This is sad.. If everyone in Russia begins to focus on such a stereotype of behavior, then we will all degrade to the level of animals. You cannot build a country and create a future in a society where, instead of mutual respect and conscience, blunt force and fear will rule. ((
      2. 0
        9 July 2013 19: 59
        Quote: Mairos
        How about without a knife? Just a knife?

        mother and family have always been sacred among all peoples, but in Russia many have forgotten this... well, excuse me, we must return to the roots.
        Quote: Mairos
        What if someone considers your words or sidelong glance an insult and just stabs you with a knife without talking?

        Not quite correct comparison.
        Quote: Mairos
        I agree that everyone and everywhere has boors, but why the hell would you immediately grab a knife?!

        Why immediately??? I said only in case of unacceptable insults.
        I will never in my life insult another’s mother, family or religion. These are sacred things and if you talk about such things, be prepared for the consequences.
        I understand this is strange for you, only in Russia the word mother is understood in a good sense. And a lot of young people, especially today, touch their mother when insulted. I weaned my Russian friends from this swearing, because it is low.
        1. +2
          10 July 2013 10: 44
          Let them not scold anyone's mother..!! I ALSO don’t like it when people swear in conversation, but they don’t offend anyone by doing so, this “expression” is not intended to offend anyone. Okay, your friends know, but what if your friends don’t? As then?
          As for the roots... yes, you need to remember them, but plunging into primitive savagery with blood feud and knife-wielding is stupid, to say the least. And the guys from the Caucasus themselves swear in Russian in the style of “I’m your mommy...”, huh? Shall we start cutting the same thing? Well, if we go back to the roots, then let's start. Only now, I’m afraid that if the Russians return to their roots (and the style of behavior of the diasporas of the Caucasus and Asia is simply pushing us towards this), then very quickly there will be no diasporas, some will be cut up, guided by ancient traditions, and the rest will go home. Maybe we won’t dive into the roots, but somehow look for understanding at a new level? Why are new raids by the “new abreks” and new punitive campaigns of the “new Ermolovs” needed?
    2. +5
      9 July 2013 19: 15
      Quote: Yeraz
      I’m more than sure that if tomorrow, some Russian accidentally hurt me and in response to my requests to apologize, he will send me and have a family, I will stab him with a knife.

      This is precisely why it is better for you to live in your homeland. In your cultural space, where cutting a person is acceptable.
      And not wander around Russia, while trying to instill your own traditions.
      1. +1
        9 July 2013 20: 14
        Quote: Spade
        . In your cultural space, where cutting a person is acceptable.
        And not wander around Russia, while trying to instill your own traditions.

        The fact that Russians have forgotten some of their traditions and live under Western influence does not mean that this did not happen in Russia.
        Have you forgotten about duels to the death?? Where people were killed for even more ridiculous insults. Or even before that in Rus', you could calmly go up to curse the whole family and leave unscathed?
        There is no need to say here that in Russia it has always been like it is now. That’s because the Russians had a strong respect for both the Russian soldier and the state. But now, as a state, there is respect, but there is no respect for the ordinary Russian , because if you come up you’ll say motherfucker 5 will pass by 5 more will fight, some verbally, some with their fists.

        You can live without this purely according to the law, but it doesn’t exist either, so there are 2 choices or it will be quickly stopped at everyday life, but it’s too late, national hatred is already on the brink or the state ensures the rule of law.
        But this is not done and as a result we get multiply increasing hatred every day.
        1. 0
          9 July 2013 20: 44
          Quote: Yeraz
          Have you forgotten about duels to the death?? Where people were killed for even worse insults.

          But this is Western influence.

          Quote: Yeraz
          Or even before this, in Rus' it was possible to calmly come up and swear at the whole family and leave unscathed?

          Whole, but badly beaten. They could, of course, beat him to death, but only by accident, in the heat of the moment. It is not in the Russian tradition to purposefully kill a fellow tribesman.

          Quote: Yeraz
          but not to an ordinary Russian, because if you come up, you’ll say motherfucker 5 will pass by, 5 more will fight, some verbally, some with their fists.

          You see, you and I have huge civilizational differences. Russians don't need respect to be drilled into them. And judging by your words, you need this. Maybe you can part ways with Russia like ships at sea? Until it's not too late.
          1. Yarbay
            -1
            9 July 2013 21: 39
            Quote: Spade
            Maybe you can part ways with Russia like ships at sea? Until it's not too late.

            So Russia came to us first))))
            If you don't like it, leave))))))
            1. 0
              9 July 2013 21: 49
              I lived in Vladikavkaz. For a long time. Lived by their laws. Didn't tell them how to behave. Why do you think you have the right to do this?
              1. Yarbay
                -2
                9 July 2013 21: 54
                Quote: Spade
                I lived in Vladikavkaz. For a long time. Lived by their laws. Didn't tell them how to behave.

                No need to lie))))
                Even if you wanted to, you wouldn’t be able to tell them!!)))
                Quote: Spade
                Why do you think you have the right to do this?

                Yes, I’m not going to point anything out to anyone, but if in America, in Russia, in Yemen or in any other country someone tries to insult me, I will definitely put him in his place!! I repeat for good people I am meek and respectful, for evil people, I am a wolf myself!!
                1. 0
                  9 July 2013 22: 17
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  No need to lie))))
                  Even if you wanted to, you wouldn’t be able to tell them!!)))

                  Why did you decide? We, as young lieutenants, severely rejected the Kudar youth of Sputnik twice. After this, requests to give some money suddenly stopped.

                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Yes, I'm not going to point anything out to anyone,

                  Yah? Why are you telling us that cutting people is right? Like? Cut in your homeland.
                  1. Yarbay
                    0
                    9 July 2013 22: 24
                    Quote: Spade
                    We, as young lieutenants, severely rejected the Kudar youth of Sputnik twice.
                    Well that's the key word WE и LIEUTENANTS!
                    Quote: Spade
                    After this, requests to give some money suddenly stopped.

                    just shrunk, but you didn’t even dream of them POINT!!
                    Quote: Spade
                    Yah? Why are you telling us that cutting people is right? Like? Cut in your homeland.

                    You will kick your horse)))))))))
                    Learn to read carefully!
                    If you like your relatives to be respected even in words, then be patient and wipe away the spit, I don’t mind, it’s your own business and I don’t blame you, but I don’t respect you either, it’s obvious you’re like that private mentality!!
                    Flag in your hands!
                    I hope no offense!
                    1. +2
                      9 July 2013 22: 47
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Well, the key word is WE and LIEUTENANTS!

                      The pack psychology of our opponents forced us to use such methods.


                      Quote: Yarbay
                      they just shrunk, but you didn’t even dream of POINTING IT OUT to them!!

                      It seems that the Russians wrote “stopped” in plain white. Did you know that the words "reduced" and "ceased" have different meanings? Do you need links to articles in the explanatory dictionary?

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      You will kick your horse)))))))))

                      We say to horses not “Well”, but “But”. By the way, another confirmation of our total civilizational differences. Not only Russians, but also Mordovians and Tatars, unlike you, treat the expression “Come on...” absolutely adequately.


                      Quote: Yarbay
                      If you like your relatives to be accepted even in words, then be patient and wipe away the spit

                      I'll just punch you in the face. It can be strong. So that he realizes he is wrong. I won't kill you.

                      Quote: Yarbay
                      You clearly have such a personal mentality!!

                      Once again for those who are especially dull. I've fought a lot of times. I can’t even make an approximate calculation. But not once did a Russian, a Mordvin, a Tatar, or a Buryat rush at me with a knife. Only once a native of the Caucasus.
                      This is not my personal, this is our common mentality. Different from yours. And that is precisely why ours and yours should stay away from each other.
                      1. Yarbay
                        0
                        9 July 2013 22: 57
                        Quote: Spade
                        I'll just punch you in the face. It can be strong. So that he realizes he is wrong.
                        Lopatov doesn’t realize it!!
                        Quote: Spade
                        This is not my personal, this is our common mentality

                        No, Sanych has a different mentality!!
                        Kostya Malyshev has a different mentality!!
                      2. 0
                        9 July 2013 23: 03
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Lopatov doesn’t realize it!!

                        Why do people need to be cut? Not enemies, not criminals, but those who blurted out something in the heat of the moment? I never realize.

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        No, Sanych has a different mentality!!
                        Kostya Malyshev has a different mentality!!

                        Who are they?
                      3. Yarbay
                        +1
                        9 July 2013 23: 16
                        Quote: Spade
                        Not enemies, not criminals, but those who blurted out something in the heat of the moment?

                        I'm not talking about a blunder, but about purposeful insult!!
                        Quote: Spade
                        Who are they?

                        You see San Sanych here almost every day, and Kostya is a Siberian)))
            2. 0
              10 July 2013 13: 50
              Who came to whom can be argued endlessly. For many centuries, the mountaineers had been robbing their neighbors, killing them, and driving them into slavery. Then Russia came there - with troops. As for Transcaucasia, the rulers there themselves asked to join the Empire, for protection from the Turks and Persians, who were “hooligans” in the Caucasus. This time.
              Russia, if there is such a decision, can leave the North Caucasus, but then the diasporas of the North Caucasus will have to leave Russia. So? Or will they immediately forget everything about traditions and remember human rights, the UN, the European Court and so on? ))
              Only it won’t be funny, it will be very, very sad.
        2. 0
          10 July 2013 11: 49
          That’s why duels were banned in all countries - aristocrats simply killed each other, both for serious reasons and simply out of stupidity. Thousands died in duels, although sometimes those who survived were complete losers who simply wielded a sword better. Let's start living like wolves again - whoever has the biggest fangs is right?
    3. -1
      9 July 2013 23: 46
      Quote: Yeraz
      , I'll stab him with a knife
      A huge minus for you and those who follow you. Russian people do not carry a knife --- they are paratroopers
      1. Yarbay
        +1
        10 July 2013 00: 18
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Russian people don't carry a knife

        alas, there I gave a fresh note!!
        Now I'll give you another one!!



        Today I read the news on the Komsomol: http://www.kp.ru/daily/26096.5/2995394/
        The article talks about how three residents of Shchelkovo and Balashikha came to visit an unemployed Muscovite. The young men drank alcohol and decided to compete in cruelty. They attacked an unemployed man with knives and dismembered him into pieces.
        A Muscovite named Nikita cut off the man’s head, nose and scalp.
        After this, the young men played football with the dead man’s head. Then they simply kicked the skull until it ended up in the trash can. Now investigators cannot find him - he was taken somewhere by a garbage truck.

        What is most interesting, they do not write about it anywhere else!
        Neither Moscow24, nor NTV, nor anyone else. But the day before yesterday all these media outlets quickly wrote, incl. Komsomol member, how “a Caucasian shot a biker in the head.” The question arises: why write the word Caucasian? Does anyone write about murderers that a Slav or a Russian killed so and so?
        http://ststalin.livejournal.com/198546.html


        Well, of course you say that this is not a Russian person)))
        Why not evict his family from Moscow??
        1. +1
          10 July 2013 01: 08
          Quote: Yarbay
          you go, there I gave a fresh note!!

          Quote: Yarbay
          you go, there I gave a fresh note!!

          The clip and my comment are a living reaction to an event, death. If you want to hook me with something, then thank you for your efforts, BUT the whole point is that I drank the ethics of interethnic relations to the fullest at one time, and even now murmurs.
          Quote: Yarbay
          Well, of course you say that this is not a Russian person)))
          Honestly,)))))))))))))) I don’t welcome fun in this topic. I understand everything --- the opinions of two people meet, the tonality may not coincide, but strictly on the topic I have a frown, and you smile. That’s the truth - that’s the rift between us. I adequately perceive all your words and thoughts, BUT the fact of the matter is that you live in the Caucasus, and I’m a Volga Slav. There’s a gulf in the rye between us, although we We can get along great. Eh, life...
          1. Yarbay
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            10 July 2013 14: 12
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            .I understand everything --- the opinions of two people meet, the tonality may not coincide, but strictly on the topic, I have a frown, and you smile. That’s the truth - that’s the rift between us.

            Maybe you're right!!
            But I often traveled to different countries and studied a lot!!
            I don't see much difference between people!!
            Almost everywhere I was greeted hospitably and there are friends everywhere!
            And as for fun, it’s funny to me when they tell me that a Russian person doesn’t walk around with a knife)))) Because my first knife was given to me as a child by a Russian who made it himself))))))) by the way, he always walked around with a knife)) ) I knew dozens of Russian boys who walked with knives in Russia!))) Why lie and wishful thinking!!???
            1. RPD
              +1
              10 July 2013 14: 24
              There were knives, but they weren’t used in a fist fight, so it’s hard to admit that the Chechen acted meanly? however as usual
              1. Yarbay
                -3
                10 July 2013 16: 19
                Quote: RPD
                there were knives, but they weren’t used in fist fights,

                And now the knives are already WERE), but they weren’t used))) Well, stop lying!!)))) Before that they wrote that they didn’t carry knives at all)))))))))) But why carry them, if not for use?))))
                The one who gave me the knife was a hooligan and probably carried a knife to beat))))
                Quote: RPD
                that it is difficult to admit that a Chechen acted vilely?

                I don’t know, I have no information!
                Perhaps a drunk demobilized paratrooper (20 years old) got drunk on a boy (16 years old) and he hit him in a state of passion!
                There can be dozens of versions!!
                1. RPD
                  +1
                  10 July 2013 16: 25
                  And now there already WERE knives), but they weren’t used))) Well, stop lying!!)))) Before that they wrote that they didn’t carry knives at all)))))))))) And why wear them if not for use ?))))

                  I grew up in a city around which there are three zones and I know what I’m talking about.
                  I don’t know, I have no information!

                  but you are considering one version: “Rafik is not to blame.” Is it really not clear that negative attitudes towards compatriots do not arise out of nowhere? and not only among the Russians
                  “The Chechen diaspora took from Pugachev part of their youth, which they consider poorly managed, a radical part of the youth,” Babich said.

                  that's how "poorly managed"
                  1. Yarbay
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                    10 July 2013 16: 34
                    Quote: RPD
                    I grew up in a city around which there are three zones and I know what I’m talking about

                    I grew up in a city where there are 14 zones around and I also know what I’m talking about!))))))
                    Quote: RPD
                    but you are considering one version: “Rafik is not to blame”

                    Firstly, which one of them is Rafik?
                    Secondly, because you are considering only one version, that *Rafik is to blame*!
                    1. RPD
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                      10 July 2013 16: 43
                      corpses remain only on one side, only Caucasians grab knives
                      Well, stop lying!!))))

                      judging by your ideas, after such an accusation I should stab you to death
                      1. Yarbay
                        -3
                        10 July 2013 16: 54
                        Quote: RPD
                        corpses remain only on one side, only Caucasians grab knives


                        stop stop))))
                        No need to lie!!!


                        The article talks about how three residents of Shchelkovo and Balashikha came to visit an unemployed Muscovite. The young men drank alcohol and decided to compete in cruelty. They attacked an unemployed man with knives and dismembered him into pieces.
                        A Muscovite named Nikita cut off the man’s head, nose and scalp. After that, the young men played the head of a murdered football player. Then they simply kicked the skull with his feet until he got into the trash can. Now investigators cannot find him - a garbage truck took him somewhere.

                        What is most interesting, they do not write about it anywhere else!
                        Neither Moskva24, nor NTV, nor anyone else. But the day before yesterday, all these media outlets quickly wrote, incl. Komsomol member, as "a Caucasian shot a biker in the head." The question is, why write the word Caucasian? Does anyone write about the murderers that a Slav or a Russian killed someone?

                        http://ststalin.livejournal.com/198546.html

                        In Ryazan, the crime was committed in front of passers-by and motorists. No one tried to stop the killers. In the city center, teenagers armed with knives, brass knuckles and batons attacked two students.

                        In Ryazan, the crime was committed in front of passers-by and motorists. No one tried to stop the killers. In the city center, teenagers armed with knives, brass knuckles and batons attacked two students.
                        Evgeny Zaikin managed to run to the other side of the street. Alexander Dudin tried to jump into a standing taxi. But the driver didn’t go anywhere - he calmly waited until Alexander was pulled out of the car. They threw the young man onto the asphalt, began to beat him, and the bandits used knives. Alexander Dudin died on the spot from his injuries.
                        There is a police station just around the corner. The patrol appeared when the tragedy had already occurred. The criminals were detained in hot pursuit - the one who stabbed them was left in custody. The rest are still witnesses in the case.
                        http://www.1tv.ru/news/social/220221
                      2. RPD
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                        10 July 2013 17: 02
                        Dada only with us they are criminals and only with you they are innocent victims of brutal Russians. All of you are innocent builders, athletes, students. I saw wrestlers from Dagestan and they came to the competition and still made such a mess that their president pulled them out
                      3. Yarbay
                        -1
                        10 July 2013 17: 12
                        Quote: RPD
                        Dada only with us they are criminals and only with you they are innocent victims of brutal Russians.


                        Absolutely right))))))))
                        You lied before that only Chechens carry knives and use knives!!)))
                        It turned out that there are Russian animals and there are quite a lot of them))!!
                        There are even some who are brutal!!
                      4. Yarbay
                        -1
                        10 July 2013 16: 58
                        A 30-year-old native of one of the North Caucasus republics contacted the police and reported her brother missing; the man’s body was found a month later, a law enforcement source said.

                        According to an Interfax source, in early September, a 30-year-old resident of the capital, a native of one of the North Caucasus republics, contacted the police. An alarmed woman reported that her 37-year-old brother stopped answering calls, and instead unknown people answered the phone and refused to tell the man’s whereabouts.

                        Criminal investigation officers searched for the missing man for a month, and the day before his body was found buried in the ground near house No. 40, building 2 on Kirovogradskaya Street.

                        According to experts, he was killed in mid-September, after which his body was wrapped in plastic and buried at a depth of half a meter. A criminal case has been opened into the kidnapping and murder.
                        http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1048440/

                        On the night of January 16, 2007 in Moscow on the street. Solnechnogorsk 17-year-old Stella V., Konstantin K., Anastasia T., 16-year-old Alexander S. attacked a man who "mistaken for a native of the Caucasus."

                        Seeing a man sitting on a bench, four skinheads knocked him down and began beating him with their hands and feet. After some time, they went away to get beer, and when they returned they continued the massacre. The attackers tried to break the man's fingers and toes. Alexander carved a fascist swastika on the victim’s stomach and leg with a knife. The victim died on the spot from his injuries.

                        Konstantin K. was detained on January 17, the rest of the attackers on January 19. The identities of the skinheads were established using video recordings made in the store where they bought beer.
                        http://www.sova-center.ru/racism-xenophobia/news/racism-nationalism/2007/01/d119

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                        http://newsru.com/crime/06jun2011/abhazknrbodymsk.html
                      5. Yarbay
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                        10 July 2013 17: 09
                        Quote: RPD
                        judging by your ideas, after such an accusation I should stab you to death

                        This is according to your concepts))))))
                        Try it))))))
                      6. RPD
                        +1
                        10 July 2013 17: 14
                        )))) Well, the deputy finally received something from his compatriots
                        LDPR MP Roman Khudyakov was able to film his attackers
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          10 July 2013 08: 55
          Unfortunately, they write very often, a lot of crime news on all channels, including murders, but in Russia there would be much fewer registered murders if Caucasians, Tajiks, Uzbeks, etc. had not killed.

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