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Pugachev revolt: citizens angry with murder blocked the road

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In the city of Pugachev, Saratov region, hundreds of local residents held an unauthorized rally outside the administration building. People demanded that people from the North Caucasus be evicted from the city. And this is not the first such action.


According to ITAR-TASS, on the eve of the inhabitants of Pugachev gathered for a spontaneous gathering, which almost ended in a mass brawl. It was attended by about a hundred people.

Protests in the city began after the murder of an 20-year-old local resident. On the night of July 6, a young man was stabbed in the stomach and died in intensive care. Soon, the suspect in the murder was detained: he turned out to be a minor youth 1996, born.

The incident occurred near the cafe "Golden Barrel". According to the Investigation Department of the RF IC in the Saratov region, a quarrel broke out between the victim and the accused, which turned into a fight. “As a result of the conflict, a minor with a scalpel inflicted multiple stab-cuts to the young man’s wounds of the chest. The injured died in a medical facility,” the department explained. The local media immediately clarified that the suspect was from Chechnya. According to some reports, the fight happened because of the girl.

In fact, the murders opened a case on the 1 part of the 105 article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. The investigation petitioned for the arrest of the minor, and the court granted the petition. The defendant will be detained for at least two months.

According to the local MIA, on the evening of July 7, about 200 people gathered at the Pugachev Square on Cathedral - the relatives of the deceased came to clarify the relationship with the detainee's relatives. “For the purpose of protecting public order, Pugachevsky’s personnel of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia were involved. The head of the Pugachevsky municipal district and the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, Pugachevsky, addressed the audience. After the preventive conversation, the people dispersed. There were no violations of public order or illegal actions. - informed the police. The guards added that the situation in the city is under control.

The vice-governor of the region, Denis Fadeyev, also arrived at the scene of the incident in order to understand the events. "Those responsible for what happened will be punished to the fullest extent of the law. No one will escape responsibility," he promised. Representatives of the region’s national communities also came from Saratov. At an emergency meeting in the city administration, they expressed condolences to the relatives of the deceased.

Pugachev received conflicting data. Journalist Anton Naumlyuk, who is on the scene, shares operational information in his Twitter account. According to him, on July 8 nearly a thousand people gathered near the city administration. They threw bottles into the administration building and chanted: "Evict!" Then part of the protesters gathered "to go to the pogrom of the Chechens." Participants of the street protest went to the track "Saratov-Samara". The policemen blocked the road, however, "the crowd made their way through the barbed wire and walked around the field," the first clashes with law enforcement officers began. The riot police arrived at the scene.

According to the journalist, the city authorities offered citizens to create an initiative group to somehow solve the problem. However, the locals seem to be radical. According to news agencies, the initiative group was created, and it has already held a meeting in a local house of culture.

Locals, meanwhile, continue to complain. One of them told "Russian service News":" Every year, three years in a row, people of Caucasian nationality kill young people in this cafe. They are very aggressive. People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished. "

As the head of the press service of the Saratov regional branch of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, Lyudmila Rossenko, said in her Twitter account, the authorities are calling on residents to disperse. But people do not disagree, some are thinking about spending the night on the street. However, according to her, they managed to free the federal highway. "The head arrived (administration - editorial note), led people off the highway, and the police blocked the approaches. The automobile communication was restored," Rossenko said.

In some mass media and blogs, information appeared about the introduction of military equipment in Pugachev. Journalist Anton Naumlyuk does not confirm this information: "Military equipment is not here. Riot police do not exit the car."

The governor of the Saratov region Valery Radaev expressed his condolences to the relatives of the murdered young man. He also urged the inhabitants of Pugachev to remain calm. “I express my sincere condolences to the family, relatives and friends of the deceased Ruslan Marzhanov. It is terrible and bitter when the young men die in peacetime. And the fact that this tragedy caused a resonance among the population of Pugachev, from Ruslan’s compatriots, I can understand and share their pain”, - his statement is given on the official website of the government of the Saratov region.

The head of the region called on the townspeople "not to give vent to emotions and feelings." “We know the irreversible consequences of lynching, escalation of the situation, and speculation on a national theme. Historical the experience of our multinational country does not allow us to forget about this and calm down, "said Radaev.
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    1. Yegorchik
      Yegorchik 9 July 2013 08: 17 New
      113
      Well done, I absolutely agree, the authorities are already crossing all borders covering these freaks, and in any situation the Russians remain extreme.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 9 July 2013 08: 30 New
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        If the power covers the Chechen bandits, then the Chechen bandits rob the people and give part of the loot to the authorities. Otherwise, what is the use of power to cover bandits and murderers.
        1. Ribwort
          Ribwort 9 July 2013 10: 19 New
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          Quote: Nikolai S.
          If power covers Chechen bandits ...

          Yes, you are a nationalist, my friend! Ask any official and they will lead you (for the umpteenth time) an old disc that there is no national motive here and, in fact, a purely everyday conflict. And in general, forget the word "Russian", "Caucasian" ... All of us now "daragie, panim, shine"

          But seriously, it's a shame that before the next election a bunch of pro-Kremlin trolls will fly here, they will tell how everything is fine in our country, confirming your words with links from pro-government sites. And everything will remain as it was ... Get used to it?
          1. Himalayan
            Himalayan 9 July 2013 10: 52 New
            41
            "-Somehow not tolerant! Bad nationalities do not exist! Russians (Tatars, ...) themselves kill a lot of people! Russians, so those in general ..., without a tribe, drink godlessly, idlers. Russian women - ... ! ..., ... "
            =
            These are the main slogans of "kosher" cosmopolitans like "antifa". Only these "antifa" themselves have long ago saddled the "Russian world" with words - symbols: a Nazi, a nationalist, a fascist. They themselves are those "abozhiurs", under which, the disintegrants of the nation, the "worms" (ethnic communities with the ideology of racial superiority, social superiority) bring the "soil" (society) to the pre-Libyan one. pre-Syrian, Yugoslavian scenarios
            1. yurii p
              yurii p 9 July 2013 12: 24 New
              +4
              I COMPLETELY AGREE.
              1. Karabu
                Karabu 9 July 2013 18: 27 New
                +4
                Quote: Nikolai S.
                If the power covers the Chechen bandits, then the Chechen bandits rob the people and give part of the loot to the authorities

                it means only that the authorities are afraid of them. they do not share the loot, on the contrary. the Kremlin gives them as much as they require in subsidies, various deductions, and dubious federal programs. The pacification of Chechnya resulted in the payment of an annual tribute of $ 2 billion from the Russian budget to a best friend - comrade Kadyrov.
            2. zart_arn
              zart_arn 9 July 2013 14: 18 New
              15
              I support the people in their just indignation. After such performances (Kondopoga, Pugachev) the "natives" immediately become "more tolerant" and calmer.


              "Brothers in a friendly crowd
              Leaving for a walk,
              Gray ducks shoot,
              Right hand to amuse,
              Sorochina in the field to hurry,
              Ile head off with wide shoulders
              At the Tatar cut off
              Or etch from the forest
              Pyatigorsk Circassian. "
              A.S. Pushkin
              Intolerant, however, but to the heart.
              1. shpuntik
                shpuntik 9 July 2013 18: 21 New
                -2
                zart_arn Today, 14:18 ↑
                A.S. Pushkin
                Intolerant, however, but to the heart.


                Liter can of gasoline,
                Modestly in a string bag.
                Tied to the lid, a hunting match,
                Quiet like a blade of grass, waiting for it to fly.
                With gloomy thoughts, with a black bag,
                I come to the crowd ...
                And I don’t know: where to throw her, dear?
                After all, relatives, police, and kind faces are everywhere.
                1. shpuntik
                  shpuntik 9 July 2013 19: 35 New
                  +9

                  shpuntik Today, 18:21 ↑
                  Liter can of gasoline,
                  Modestly in a string bag.

                  I apologize, well, I’m not Lermontov :-)


                  Mikhail Lermontov

                  Anthology of Russian poetry KAZACHYA Lullaby
                  Sleep, my beautiful baby,
                  Baiushki bye.
                  Quietly looks clear month
                  In your cradle
                  I will tell fairy tales
                  I’ll sing a song;
                  Well you doze, closing your eyes,
                  Baiushki bye.

                  Terek flows over the stones
                  The muddy ramparts;
                  Angry Chechen crawling to the shore
                  Sharpen his dagger;
                  But your father is an old warrior,
                  Hardened in battle:
                  Sleep baby, be calm
                  Baiushki bye.

                  You will find out yourself, there will be time,
                  Swearing;
                  Feel free to put your foot in the stirrup
                  And take a gun.
                  I'm a battle saddle
                  I will send silk ...
                  Sleep, my dear child
                  Baiushki bye.

                  Bogatyr you will mean
                  And the Cossack soul.
                  I'll walk you out -
                  You wave your hand ...
                  How many bitter tears sneak
                  I will shed that night! ..
                  Sleep my angel, softly, sweetly,
                  Baiushki bye.

                  I will longing to languish,
                  It is inconsolable to wait;
                  I’m going to pray all day
                  Fortune telling at night;
                  Gonna think you're bored
                  You're in a strange land ...
                  Sleep until you know the worries
                  Baiushki bye.

                  I'll give you the road
                  Scapular Saint:
                  You him, praying to god
                  Set in front of you;
                  Yes, getting ready for battle is dangerous,
                  Remember your mother ...
                  Sleep, my beautiful baby,
                  Baiushki bye.
            3. Revolver
              Revolver 9 July 2013 19: 10 New
              -7
              Chechen kills Russian drunk - Jews are guilty as always. So many years have passed, nothing has changed.

              Ancient, with such a beard and a bunch of variations of a joke:

              An old [Armenian, Gypsy, Tatar, person of a different nationality - write _________________], the patriarch of the family dies. Naturally, all relatives crowded around the bed to hear the last wisdom. And so he utters with the last of his strength: "Take care of the Jews! When they are completely gone, they will take over you."
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 10 July 2013 17: 06 New
                +3
                Quote: Nagan
                Chechen kills Russian drunk - Jews are guilty as always. So many years have passed, nothing has changed.

                After all, they did not write about the conflict with the biker that a certain Ovanesov, who shot the biker in the head, was from the Nashi movement. No, they wrote that he was a Caucasian! Moreover, later it became known that he was Georgiy Ovakimov. And this is no longer a Caucasian, but a Jew! Ovakims are not non-Jews! Nobody writes about this anymore, the duck was allowed yesterday about the Caucasian, that's all!

                The same Jewish media do not write that a Jewish banker, or a banker of Jewish nationality Borodin, stole money from the Bank of Moscow. They just write that Borodin stole money.
                http://ststalin.livejournal.com/198546.html
            4. vezunchik
              vezunchik 10 July 2013 16: 58 New
              +1
              It's just that this clearly reveals the CIA doctrine, adopted in 1975, the main ones were highlighted - work with young people and pitting people on ethnic grounds ....
          2. Siberian German
            Siberian German 9 July 2013 13: 21 New
            29
            but call me a fascist - I am for more radical schemes for resolving this issue in the style of Grandfather Stalin
            1. Tykta
              Tykta 9 July 2013 13: 38 New
              -17
              Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and by occupation, the Fuhrer has already radically solved troubles with our people ... you will be the same as I understand it - but you are not a fascist, you are enemies of the Russians, the history of world wars confirms this.
              1. Misantrop
                Misantrop 9 July 2013 15: 39 New
                11
                Quote: Tykta
                Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and the occupation of the Fuhrer

                And what is more important here, was he German or in what way did he "solve problems"? They beat me in the face, not my passport. If he behaves like a monkey with a grenade, then what's the difference what exactly he drew for a bribe in the questionnaire?
                Trying to put together a gang based on ethnicity, put itself above the law - kick in the ass and let it fly into its nest in front of its own squeal
                1. Tykta
                  Tykta 9 July 2013 16: 24 New
                  +2
                  I have a slightly different vision of the history of MY country, as they say, who remembers the old - that eye is out, and whoever forgets the old will both. The Germans in 2 wars rather thinned our nation and consider the Germans a nation friendly to the peoples of Russia, at least hypocritically. after that war the Germans should have been wiped off the face of the earth as a nation, so that their spirit would not remain
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 9 July 2013 17: 11 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Tykta
                    The Germans in 2 wars pretty much thinned our nation
                    And between the wars they helped a lot. Here is IMHO that they can’t be taken away from them, they did it all honestly (that they were friends, that they fought). There was no this foul Anglo-Saxon hypocrisy, when the assurances of friendship spread in the face, and immediately they spoiled behind him. So if you are friends with anyone in Europe, then only with the Germans IMHO. All the rest will be sold without hesitation at the slightest occasion. Except that the Serbs are still good in this respect (by no means all of the Yugoslavs in a row)
                    1. Tykta
                      Tykta 9 July 2013 17: 28 New
                      -1
                      in these intervals, they conducted active intelligence activities in order to inflict maximum damage ... you have some illusory and pacifist views on the relationship of countries that fought against each other. Can a pacifist remind you of the term "Vernihtungskrieg" and to which people it was applied? to our peoples, to the peoples inhabiting the USSR, and there is no need here to engage in eyewash about the Anglo-Saxon maneuvers, we have no friends in Europe, yes, the Serbs are brothers, but they are brothers to the Russians, and not the people, history ordered that the Russians were always together with Serbs and have never been on the same side of the barricades with the Germans. do not forget about it, do not forget that the Germans serve in the NATO troops and I don’t know that they would be friends with ours at least once ... under Napoleon or what? So they betrayed and eventually went over to the side of Bonaparte, that's bad luck, not a single case in history that the Germans fought on the side of the Russians, always only against ...
                      1. Cossack23
                        Cossack23 10 July 2013 07: 28 New
                        0
                        we have the best factories built by the Germans, the best specialists honestly train the Germans too, and how many colonies in Russia were German, and who are the best Germans in Germany? - Russian Germans.
                        And we have been fighting with them for a very long time 800-900 years, the Germans already have Russian facial features, and ours?
                        as there was bedlam so ..... UNBEATABLE ORTHODOX
                    2. Dober
                      Dober 10 July 2013 01: 57 New
                      0
                      Quote: Misantrop
                      So if you are friends with anyone in Europe, then only with the Germans

                      How well said!
                      And most importantly - absolutely for sure!
                2. Tykta
                  Tykta 9 July 2013 17: 16 New
                  -4
                  Quote: Misantrop

                  They beat him in the face, not the passport ... a monkey with a grenade ... put together a gang according to ethnicity ... put yourself above the law ... kick in the ass ... flies into its nest ...

                  in 4 sentences 6 punched stamps, isn't it a bit much dear? or do you have a highly imaginative formation to form images already in the hypothalamus?
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 9 July 2013 18: 07 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Tykta
                    in 4 sentences 6 punched stamps
                    These cliches are "hackneyed" only because they really reflect the essence of what is happening. That is why people use them. Well, about stamps, for example this one:
                    Quote: Tykta
                    Germans serve in NATO troops and I don’t know what they would be friends with at least once ...
                    Not aware that states are not declaring war? And VERY many heroes of Russia have German roots. Again, most of the imported machines in Russian factories are of German origin. Despite all the lend-leases and other British nishtyaki. Not all of them were received from reparations, most even before the start of the Second World War, the USSR got honestly sold and installed.
                    Well, about the one who fought and where, here's a recent one. Father and mother, ethnic Germans, left for Germany in the 90s. My son refused to move, stayed with his grandmother. I went to serve as an emergency, got into the Airborne Forces. And in the second Chechen one he died, covering himself from the bullet of a sniper of his commander. There were many witnesses to this; it was by no means accidental that he fell under a bullet. Brother gave him an idea. Hero of Russia, posthumously ...
                    Well, what the Germans really were during that war REALLY, all my relatives in the Crimea looked great during the occupation. So no fucking impressions from books and tabloid newspapers
                    1. Tykta
                      Tykta 9 July 2013 18: 25 New
                      -5
                      So you are a revisionist !! let's tell that Hitler first declared war on the Russians and only then began to bomb our cities ... did the Germans not participate in 3 epic wars against Russia, in the Great Patriotic War of the Twelfth year as part of Napoleon’s troops, in the 1st World War and finally the Great Patriotic War?
                      The fact that your ancestors lived under the invaders already characterizes you as a person with the ability to mimic, therefore, all idle stories about how you lived under the invaders are not interesting to me, my grandfather fought at the front, finished the front line near Koenigsberg, drank himself and died after the war, burned out war. Because the hardships of a war between soldiers and the occupied population are incommensurable in principle and fire me from your details of how you lived well there. It is enough to read about the Young Guard to understand who was a soldier in that war and who was a herd
                      1. Misantrop
                        Misantrop 9 July 2013 18: 39 New
                        14
                        Quote: Tykta
                        The fact that your ancestors lived under the invaders already characterizes you as a person with the ability to mimic
                        Shut your mouth, warrior. Partisan detachment and underground workers, in your opinion - the ability to mimicry? 4 generations of military men in the family, of which 3 are officers - is this "the ability to adapt"? Starting with the Russian-Japanese war, my family did not miss a single war, it took part in all of them. At the front, not in the rear. My pension is for seniority, not for sores, and 8 years real mountain war the younger brother is "herd"? What is typical, having changed the shoulder straps for civilian clothes (by length of service, again, without mowing), NOBODY of them got drunk. Tell me brat about real war ... lol
                      2. Tykta
                        Tykta 9 July 2013 18: 59 New
                        -13
                        What do you have to prove? I just don’t believe such characters as you, who de patriots say, although they support revisionism with every word, and at any convenient and uncomfortable moment they start to beat their hooves in the chest and prove that they served Tsar Gorokh. I don’t believe in general, so don’t bother to prove the opposite, you can just touch you stupidly: Azazaz Lalka Rzhu to Ardin’s voice with radadlovna in the studio, but your methods of pleasure do not deliver me, your revisionist point of view on the history of wars and the peoples participating in them proves that you are a liberal, and if every second soldier in your family is all just bullshit.
                      3. Misantrop
                        Misantrop 9 July 2013 19: 46 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Tykta
                        I just do not believe such types as you
                        Your right, it happens, NOT DANO ... request Like to think, it seems ... Swallowed labels like rags rags. "The hardships of war", "revisionism" and other "isms", absolutely not imagining what it looks like in REAL. I tried not to talk about the war until I saw it myself. OWN eyes, not stories. In the summer of 93, in Abkhazia. It was only after this that some understanding of the stories of the front-line soldiers came. And among my friends there are many of them, others have more than a dozen years of combat experience. And a "personal cemetery" to the horizon ... Interestingly, many of them have about the same attitude towards the Germans. When a German is an enemy, then he is exactly an ENEMY, completely and unambiguously, when a friend is the same. By the way, in the OVD, the only more or less normal ally of the USSR was exactly the GDR army, all the other Poles and other Hungarians were more ballast ...
                  2. Cossack23
                    Cossack23 10 July 2013 07: 47 New
                    0
                    Germans know how to carry out orders, even the most cruel Russian cities burned more than once under their onslaught, they are clear-cut warriors (without our slackness) and thousands of people do not put them in the earth of all our enemies, they are the most correct and Hitler very much doubted about Russia, but if not Russia then then England and other Europe - that's where the fags sit and tell the corrupt command (no matter whose Russian, German) how to kill more Russians. read "left-handed" about how he shod a flea - that's all of Europe, but not the Germans ( by the way, they consist of Hungarians, Austrians, Dutch, Germans and someone else)
          3. Flooding
            Flooding 9 July 2013 16: 07 New
            +5
            Quote: Tykta
            Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and by occupation the Führer already radically solved troubles with our people ...

            I don’t know what kind of people you have for which you are crucifying, but in my opinion it’s just that the Russian people have a headache and how to deal with locusts that have flown up.
            You see, Tykta, the people want to live quietly in their own land, not on a stranger.
            1. Tykta
              Tykta 9 July 2013 16: 41 New
              +2
              your landmarks are so blurred that you don’t even understand which nation you belong to, the disease of cosmopolitanism that you mentioned was overcome only by one country in the world, it was the USSR but exclusively within its own borders, while the imposed, alien cosmopolitanism, together with all the benefits of hedonism ( which are interpreted as liberal ideas) is not actually cosmopolitanism, it is a rejection of the feelings of one’s own culture. In the USSR, people of different nationalities felt very well in completely different republics of their country, everywhere they were glad to all, it was the Tower of Babel that our peoples inhabiting the USSR built. And who you are and what you are like to me absolutely no difference, you can’t change my mind, because I have a very clear idea of ​​the past of my country.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 9 July 2013 17: 06 New
                +1
                Quote: Tykta
                your landmarks are so blurred that you don’t even understand which nation you belong to

                Stop pointless spraying.
                Your concept of tact (or maybe moral?) Is so blurred that you don’t even see boundaries that you should not go over.

                Quote: Tykta
                And who you are and what you represent to me absolutely no difference, you cannot change my views, since I have a very clear idea of ​​the past of my country.

                Have I been imposed on you as a friend? Or tried to change your views? Why do I need this if I don’t even know who is knocking on the clave hundreds of kilometers from me?

                But answer a simple question, how can a Russian, who wants to protect himself from alien in his environment and moreover dangerous elements, be, as you deign to say, "an enemy of the Russians"? Don't talk about a multinational society and don't use the USSR as an example. As I understand it, you have little understanding of this topic.
                A multinational society is good when each of its ... members has a clear understanding of their place in it and guarantees safe living in it.
                You recall how such issues were resolved in the multinational USSR? Recall evictions of local nationalities? The measure is tough, but necessary.
                Effective measures to restore order are no less necessary now. And not empty talk about friendship and brotherhood of nations. When it comes to survival, it is no longer a matter of courtesies. They will be later, when the Russian people will restore order in their home.
                1. Tykta
                  Tykta 9 July 2013 17: 41 New
                  -8
                  with your meaningless remarks you tried to assert that I am wrong. your allusions regarding imposing friends on you - you see only, I have no desire to have something in common with a hollow bream that pokes into the eyes that his opponent sits hundreds of kilometers away from him, as if selectively forgetting that he himself is also completely He knocks on the keyboard and thereby shows his inferiority regarding the use of cheap trolling as the basis of his actions.
                  again raises the question of the deportation of the Chechens who fought against the soldiers of the Red Army, what do you think that the Chechens did not fight against us? so the decision to deport was completely fair, if you don’t own the question, you should not be dishonored by its limitations and stupidity.
                  and yes, if you use some old Slavic turns of speech, such as "people" - this does not make you a Slav, you use hackneyed stamps in every line, you try to get into the credibility of those who read your lines, but any person whose understanding of reality does not depend on surrounding opinion - sees all your pathetic attempts
                  1. Misantrop
                    Misantrop 9 July 2013 18: 14 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Tykta
                    their meaningless remarks
                    So far, meaningless remarks I see from you. But here for 152 people the crew of the cruiser sometimes reached 38 nationalities. And there have never been ANY problems on a national basis. This is internationalism in REAL. When the survival of ALL depends on EVERYONE, then they are not divided into national heaps. Just because you KILL (and drag others along ...)
                  2. Flooding
                    Flooding 9 July 2013 18: 16 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Tykta
                    your allusions regarding imposing friends on you - you see only

                    Is it really not enough to master a couple of lines? Be careful, you are repeating. And again you are mistaken. I repeat
                    Quote: Flood
                    Have I been imposed on you as a friend? Or tried to change your views? Why do I need this if I don’t even know who is knocking on the clave hundreds of kilometers from me?


                    Quote: Tykta
                    I don’t have the slightest desire to have anything in common with a hollow bream that pokes in the eye with the fact that his opponent sits hundreds of kilometers away from him as if selectively forgetting that he himself also completely knocks on the keyboard and thereby shows his inferiority regarding the use of cheap trolling as the basis of their actions.

                    It seems that a person has a certain vocabulary and even knows how to screw some clever words into his sentences, but is completely not friends with logic.
                    I was just the remoteness of the opponent and my unfamiliarity with him argued my mutual unwillingness to have anything in common with him.

                    If you understand the abyss of your conclusions, and then systematically state them - maybe someone will understand you. But I’m afraid your tattered psyche, which can be judged by emotions that are overwhelming and hostile, will not stand such a test.

                    Quote: Tykta
                    again raises the question of the deportation of the Chechens who fought against the soldiers of the Red Army

                    who raised this question? I get the feeling that you are communicating with yourself. Do not spray. Better less is better.

                    Quote: Tykta
                    and yes, if you use some old Slavic turns of speech, such as "people" - this does not make you a Slav

                    It doesn’t matter to me what in your eyes corresponds to the concept of Slavicism and what not. I express my thoughts as best I can and the good old Russian words are most welcome here.

                    And you, sir, are behaving HAM. Play the pluses pluses on.
                  3. Tykta
                    Tykta 9 July 2013 18: 32 New
                    -5
                    Well do you turn on the fool? Why are you lying around? what other nations were massively deported besides Chechens? Here are some? besides Chechens, call deportation on national grounds?
                  4. Flooding
                    Flooding 9 July 2013 18: 42 New
                    +2
                    Missing another rudeness. I will try to interpret.
                    Did I write something about mass? Massively - how much?
                    Moldovans were deported, Tatars were deported, but who knows who else.

                    And did I question the feasibility and necessity of such steps?
                    I repeat, you argue with yourself.

                    But I’m interested in something else. Why can't you assume that there are people who say and write what they think? Why look between the lines and blame the interlocutors, based on their guesses and assumptions? Moreover, inclined to see in people base thoughts and motives?
                  5. rus9875
                    rus9875 9 July 2013 18: 56 New
                    +1
                    Please, if you don’t know, deported Koreans from the Far East, then Germans from the Volga region, Crimean Tatars, Karachais, Balkars, Ingush, Kalmyks, Greeks, Bulgarians and Armenians from Crimea, Meskhetian Turks from Georgia Enough? Or continue? Do you think these nations should feel gratitude?
                  6. Cossack23
                    Cossack23 10 July 2013 08: 06 New
                    +2
                    my ancestors to whom Russia owes its territories, but were not simply deported but destroyed, and this is called a simple word genocide. I live in a village where 3-4% of the Cossacks are left and the rest are in the park one on top of the other. from all this dialogue it is necessary to draw a conclusion — you little friend do not have a life view, you have a life-long diagnosis. You don’t know a damn about the history of the Homeland and did not draw a single correct conclusion.
      2. krasin
        krasin 9 July 2013 19: 02 New
        +2
        Quote: Tykta
        Was Hitler German for sure? or not? Are you definitely a German? and then one named German and by occupation, the Fuhrer has already radically solved troubles with our people ... you will be the same as I understand it - but you are not a fascist, you are enemies of the Russians, the history of world wars confirms this.

        Hitler was a mixture of a Jew and a German! Here you are punished!
    2. yak69
      yak69 9 July 2013 16: 27 New
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      Quote: Siberian German
      I am for more radical schemes for resolving this issue in the style of Grandfather Stalin

      Everything is very simple and is done the same everywhere. Several enterprising citizens come from the Caucasus (no matter where - to the Russian hinterland). They "feed" local city officials, open a business (no matter which one). With profits, they must "unfasten" the local authorities, the cops ... sorry, the police. In a year or two, their relatives come - men, women, children. Then they begin to arrange new arrivals in different "grain" places (after "feeding" all who need it). Then they open a cafe, where all these "like-minded people" gather - have a rest, discuss further plans for expansion. Very quickly local girls themselves come to them and, very many, for a drink or for clothes, with great pleasure "give" and "with the backside and with pered" to all these citizens, because they have money. The local working population is offended and impossible to look at all this disgrace. All the more so that very soon all entrances are "blocked" for a local person in order to open a business or continue what he started. Over time, the city administration, the structures subordinate to it, the cops ... oh, sorry, the police, turn out to be tightly, kinship-brotherly connected with the visiting citizens. Now, having felt the strength, impunity (nevertheless bought!), Dancing begins in the streets and squares, insolent "assaults" at everyone who looks askance or is indignant. Such people are generally beaten (often to death). Further, more, you can drag the girl you like against her will, fuck her, intimidate her and her parents and rejoice further!
      One day even the local terpils become unbearable and a riot begins. So it was in the Urals, In Karelia, it often happens in the Kuban and in the Stavropol Territory.
      Why it happens? After all, ONE AND THE SAME SCENARIO is periodically repeated !!
      We can certainly say that all local citizens should be not indifferent, etc., etc. Then the question arises - what and to whom are our taxes paid, which hard workers honestly pay from their meager salaries ?! Is it not for our money that all this venal mentura is contained ... sorry, I just can't get used to it! ... this whole policeman-structure, which only knows how to take bribes and divert its own from responsibility. And the city administration does not exist on our money, all this pack of parasite deputies ?! And those who are above them, in the area? And those who are in the Government and the Kremlin on whose money are they fattening ?! They all live on our money and "plow with slave labor in galleys" !!
      After all, it is their responsibility to monitor compliance with the law and the implementation of the law! It is their responsibility to make ordinary citizens live more convenient, comfortable, more prosperous! Is not it?!
      What in fact ?! State embezzlement AT ALL LEVELS, IN ALL STRUCTURES! Disregard for the needs of ordinary citizens. And this disgrace begins in the Moscow offices of the highest level. Those who are lower well understand this signal - "So we can too."
      And so, when the next murder takes place and there is already no strength to endure, a riot occurs and the game of fair justice begins, in search of those responsible, etc. True, the perpetrators do not always reach the court and the verdict, but this is no longer important - the government has reported!

      ALL FANS OF PUTIN AND MEDVEDEV DEDICATED ....
      1. yak69
        yak69 9 July 2013 16: 46 New
        +9
        This is not to say that all newcomers are bad, not that the inhabitants of the Caucasus are hooligans and violators of the law. I am not writing all this for this. All of us, together, must put things in order in our house. If the authorities in the city steal and do not do what they are supposed to do, then we will drive away such power with pissing rags! If the local policemen do not do what they are supposed to do, the men gather and all come together to the police, administration building and rigidly and decisively "ask" all this rag-tag to leave their jobs forever.
        And to wait until an honest uncle Vova comes from the Kremlin and fix everything, it's stupid. He has already come ... for the third time !! ... and he’s got it right ... Ramzan, for example, likes the way he got it all ...
        Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are.
        1. yak69
          yak69 9 July 2013 16: 49 New
          +5
          Remember Putin's words after the "second coming", he recommended an iPhone and said "There is personal chemistry, I trust him. We are of the same blood ..."
        2. plantagenet
          plantagenet 9 July 2013 20: 02 New
          -2
          Solzhenitsyn about the Chechens:
          I studied at the Kok-Terek school with me in the 9th grade, a young Chechen man, Abdul Khudaev. He did not arouse warm feelings and did not try to provoke them, as if he were afraid to humble himself to be pleasant, and he was always emphasized dry, very proud and cruel. But it was impossible not to appreciate his clear, distinct mind. In mathematics, in physics, he never stopped at the level that his comrades, but always went inland and asked questions that came from the tireless search for the essence. Like all settler children, he was inevitably covered by the so-called public at school, that is, first by a pioneer organization, then by the Komsomol organization, Uchkoms, wall newspapers, upbringing, conversations - that spiritual tuition that the Chechens so reluctantly paid.

          Abdul lived with his old mother. None of their close relatives survived, there was only Abdul's elder brother, who had long been paid for, not the first time in the camp for theft and murder, but each time quickly leaving from there by amnesty, or by set-off. One day he came to Kok-Terek, drank two days without waking up, quarreled with some local Chechen, grabbed a knife and rushed after him. A stranger old Chechen blocked his way: she threw up her arms to stop him. If he followed Chechen law, he would have to drop the knife and stop the persecution. But he was no longer so much Chechen as a thief - he waved a knife and stabbed an innocent old woman. Then a drunken head entered him that awaits him under Chechen law. He rushed to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, opened in the murder, and he was willingly sent to prison. He hid, but his younger brother Abdul, his mother and another old Chechen of their kind, uncle Abdul remained. The news of the murder spread instantly across the Chechen territory of Kok-Terek - and all three of the remaining Khudaevs gathered in their house, stocked up with food, water, laid a window, hammered the door, and hid like in a fortress. Chechens from the clan of the murdered woman now had to take revenge on someone from the Khudaev clan. Until the Khudaev’s blood was shed for their blood, they were not worthy of the rank of people. the siege of the Khudaev’s house began. Abdul did not go to school - the whole Kok-Terek and the whole school knew why. An elder of our school, a Komsomol member, an excellent student, was threatened with death by a knife every minute — perhaps, now, when they are seated at their desks on a phone call, or now, when a literature teacher talks about socialist humanism. Everyone knew, everyone remembered about it, only talked about it at breaks - and everyone dropped their eyes. Neither the party nor the Komsomol organization of the school, nor the head teacher, nor the director, nor the RayONO — no one went to save Khudaev, no one even approached his besieged house in a buzzing Chechen territory like a beehive. Yes, if only they! - but before the breath of blood feuds, so terrible still were the menacing parties for us, both the district committee, and the district regiments, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs with the commandant’s office and the police behind their adobe walls. The barbaric wild old law died - and it immediately turned out that there was no Soviet power in Kok-Terek. Her hand didn’t extend very much from the regional center of Dzhambul either, because for three days and from there the plane with the troops didn’t fly in and there wasn’t any decisive instruction, except for the order to defend the prison with cash.
          1. plantagenet
            plantagenet 9 July 2013 20: 06 New
            -1
            Solzhenitsyn about the Chechens (continued):
            And only Chechen old men showed their intelligence! They went to the Ministry of Internal Affairs once - and asked to give senior Khudaev to them for reprisal. The Ministry of Internal Affairs cautiously refused. They came to the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the second time - and asked to arrange a vowel court and shoot Khudaev with them. Then, they promised, blood feud was removed from the Khudaevs. It was impossible to come up with a more reasonable compromise. But how is this a vowel? but how is this a deliberately promised and public execution? After all, he is not political; he is a thief; he is socially close. You can trample on the rights of the Fifty-Eighth, but not a multiple killer. They requested the area - a refusal came. “Then in an hour they will kill the younger Khudaev!” - explained the old people. The officials of the Ministry of Internal Affairs shrugged: this could not concern them. The crime, not yet committed, could not be considered by them.

            And yet, some twentieth century spirit touched ... not the Ministry of Internal Affairs, no, - the old Chechen hearts that were stiffened up! Still, they did not order the avengers - to take revenge! They sent a telegram to Alma-Ata. From there hastily arrived some other old people, the most respected in the whole nation. They gathered the advice of the oldest. Elder Khudaev was cursed and sentenced to death, wherever on earth he met a Chechen knife. The rest of the Khudaevs were called and said: “Go. You will not be touched. ”

            And Abdul took the books and went to school. And with hypocritical smiles, the party organizer and the Komsomol met him there. And in the upcoming conversations and lessons, he again sang about the communist consciousness, not recalling the annoying incident. Not a muscle shuddered on Abdul’s corrupted face.
            Once again, he realized that there is a major force on earth: blood feud.
      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik 10 July 2013 17: 17 New
        +2
        Hence the explosion of popular anger in Voronezh. Stavropol Territory, Now in the Saratov region. Wait until the whole country burns ???? Maybe that’s why the export of capital increased ??? are leaving slowly?
        1. vezunchik
          vezunchik 10 July 2013 20: 10 New
          0
          Pugachevites are perplexed about the introduction of cadets into the city


          10.07.2013 19: 13: 40
          Mikhail Babich, Plenipotentiary Envoy to the Volga Federal District, did not speak with the Pugachevites about the situation in the city. He waited until they brought a megaphone and with his help began to urge the audience to go to the hall of the House of Culture.

          After a few minutes he almost succeeded, a significant part of the people followed him under the roof. But also a lot of people remained standing on the street.

          At the same time, many citizens were interested in him, with Governor Radaev, for what purpose cadets of the Ministry of Internal Affairs school were brought into the city and why there were so many police. The population fears that this may be directed against them.
  • kris
    kris 9 July 2013 10: 43 New
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    The system is rotten through and through!
    The worst thing is that sooner or later this abscess will break through.
    And then there will be a Russian rebellion, bloody and merciless.
    The top of the Putlerovites will have time to slip away.
    And ordinary people will disentangle!
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus 9 July 2013 12: 45 New
      13
      Manages to get away? Remember how in 99m there was an attempt to bombard the American embassy in Moscow with grantamet? Are you sure that on taking off from the Vnukovo airport the next VIP airliner with an official on board, he will not fly in the tail greetings from a summer resident from MANPADS accidentally breaking a tire on the Kiev highway. No jokes ... It’s not yet known how the matter will end in Novohopersk, the media didn’t get water in their mouths, and there the guys are not Moscow plankton, but old Cossacks ...
      1. kris
        kris 9 July 2013 13: 08 New
        +6
        Quote: Bashkaus
        Are you sure that on taking off from the Vnukovo airport the next VIP airliner with an official on board, he will not fly in the tail greetings from a summer resident with MANPADS accidentally breaking a tire on the Kiev highway.

        it is good to !
      2. nerd.su
        nerd.su 9 July 2013 15: 26 New
        -4
        Quote: Bashkaus
        It is not yet known how the matter will end in Novohopersk, the media scooped up water in their mouths, and there the guys are not Moscow plankton, but rather mature Cossacks ...

        Speak directly - the Nazis are hardened. Here in the next article "Cossacks" are glorified in the German service. So in Novokhopersk, fans of such "Cossacks" rule everything ...

        And, unfortunately, they will soon start to prevail everywhere, because the authorities cannot restore order with the help of their democracy. And order is the most important thing, more important than law and human life.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 9 July 2013 15: 42 New
          +8
          Quote: bot.su
          authorities cannot restore order with the help of their democracy.

          Order is majority rule, binding on ALL. And the current "democrats" establish the power of the minority. Only for the rest, without touching yourself
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 9 July 2013 16: 09 New
          +6
          Quote: bot.su
          Speak directly - the Nazis are hardened. Here in the next article "Cossacks" are glorified in the German service.

          nerd, on what basis do you sculpt people?
          Or are you broadcasting directly from the scene?
          No, then moderate your formidable ardor.
          1. nerd.su
            nerd.su 9 July 2013 21: 02 New
            -1
            Quote: Flood
            nerd, on what basis do you sculpt people?

            So you are sure that the nationalists have nothing to do with Novokhopersk?

            Quote: Flood
            No, then moderate your formidable ardor.

            Yes, I would moderate, but one collective farmer ruined the USSR. Now others with a Nazi bias climb up. You like the Nazis, here in Moldova and breed them.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 10 July 2013 12: 03 New
              0
              Quote: bot.su
              So you are sure that the nationalists have nothing to do with Novokhopersk?

              They are always more than when talking about the interests of Russia. At least as they understand it. BUT besides them there are still hundreds and thousands of Voronezh residents who are dissatisfied with the situation and express their dissatisfaction. Why stigmatize everyone without looking back?
              Quote: bot.su
              You like the Nazis, here in Moldova and breed them.

              nerd, sort it out for a start nationalists or Nazis.
              Then we’ll talk about my attitude towards them and my citizenship.
              1. nerd.su
                nerd.su 10 July 2013 17: 38 New
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                Quote: Flood
                nerd, sort it out for a start nationalists or Nazis.

                The nationalist who puts on the avatars of the Cossacks in the form of the Wehrmacht is a Nazi. Such comrades were abundant among the public, which stirs up water on Khopre.
                I agree, and other people are there too. But the leadership there is opposition. And pseudo-ecologists, like Chirikova, have been noted, and even the Communists, who consider it justified an alliance with people using Nazi symbols. Then for some time I was not interested in what was happening, and there the struggle among the defenders themselves began, allegations of corruption, etc.
                Your citizenship is not particularly interesting to me.

                Quote: Flood
                BUT besides them there are still hundreds and thousands of Voronezh residents who are dissatisfied with the situation and express their dissatisfaction. Why stigmatize everyone without looking back?


                If someone skillfully did not stir up this topic, there would be no unrest. But these someone skillfully play on ignorance and fear of everything new. Of course, the stupid and greedy managers of the UMMC are largely to blame.

                But, nevertheless, the country's future lies in industrialization, not in "ecology". "Environmentalists" who get into politics must be pressed mercilessly, for me it is the same infection that promotes the decay, suicide of the nation, like ... other trends in family life fashionable in the West. It is necessary to deal with the protection of nature in the process of nature management, and not the creation of all kinds of reserves and the return to the plow, horses and checkers.
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 10 July 2013 19: 22 New
                  0
                  Quote: bot.su

                  I agree, and other people are there too. But the leadership there is opposition. And pseudo-ecologists, like Chirikova, have been noted, and even the Communists, who consider it justified an alliance with people using Nazi symbols. Then for some time I was not interested in what was happening, and there the struggle among the defenders themselves began, allegations of corruption, etc.

                  Do you agree? Then I won’t have to repeat about shortcuts.
                  In general, in this matter our views of the Voronezh citizen are much more interesting.

                  Quote: bot.su
                  Your citizenship is not particularly interesting to me.

                  Well, how can that be. It was you who referred me to "my" Moldova.
                  However, I will not argue with you. All clear.
                2. nerd.su
                  nerd.su 11 July 2013 00: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: Flood
                  In general, in this matter our views of the Voronezh citizen are much more interesting.

                  Voronezh is so far away, there the opinion of other residents should be asked, there are fewer cities.
                  However, I expressed my opinion.
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 10 July 2013 22: 32 New
    0
    police at work. But why did the people become guilty ???
  • Uncle Serozha
    Uncle Serozha 9 July 2013 19: 00 New
    +3
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    If the power covers the Chechen bandits, then the Chechen bandits rob the people and give part of the loot to the authorities. Otherwise, what is the use of power to cover bandits and murderers.

    I'm afraid it's not so simple. Do not forget about those who sleep and see how to ruin Russia according to the same scenario as the USSR. Mass actions implicated in ethnic strife are what they need.
    But even the Caucasians cannot get away with such things. The best course of action is informal. A Russian guy was injured in a fight - Caucasians suffered in a couple of days. Just in a fight, without any slogans. Then their diasporas will behave decently in Russia, for they will understand that "Vengeance is mine, and I will repay."
  • Nevsky
    Nevsky 9 July 2013 08: 44 New
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    View from Ukraine. (Southeast)

    What can I tell you. The eternal Chechen question. When, in the early 90s, there was still no generation of "self-styled" people in Ukraine who grew up on new textbooks, when the thought that you were sort of a Ukrainian was not yet ingrained, do you know what kept the collapse of Ukraine and the reunification of Russian regions with the Russian Federation? Chechen question. I still remember a school matinek, school number 21, Berdyansk, Zaporozhye region, 1996. Girl in Russian: "We have peace in Ukraine, and we are not waging a war in Chechnya like Russia" (55% of the quote is reproduced). We also had video tapes with bullying of Russian soldiers here, which was not there. Even recently, in 2004, Yushchenko used the technology: “Yanukovych is for dual citizenship, do you want you (your son) to serve in Chechnya?

    Today with a red rag "Chechnya"They have not been afraid for a long time in Ukraine, firstly, a generation of even Russian-speaking Svidomites has grown up, and secondly, a consumer class has formed without a family or tribe ( I speak only for the South-East of Ukraine), where the main thing: eat, sleep, shit ... b. But after all, 8 million Russians and 12 million Russian-speaking Ukrainians would be useful today to Mother Russia in putting things in order and reducing such Caucasian minorities to the level of a mono-center from the general population :(

    Someone will accuse me of Russian nationalism, but I am only for maintaining our ethnic group. Tell me the alarm early? Oh well.


    PSUkraine was torn from Russia, and this is a tragedy for two peoples, and in 20 years it will come back ...
    1. mogus
      mogus 9 July 2013 08: 50 New
      18
      nationalism is considered in the Kremlin. In Russia (for the Slavs) this is a grant of our continued existence.
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 9 July 2013 13: 08 New
        +7
        Quote: mogus
        nationalism is considered in the Kremlin.

        There is such a charm Surkov, Russian only by last name, and by father - Chechen and Muslim. Such a handsome man to a certain extent defines nat. RF policy.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 13: 31 New
          +4
          Quote: Uncle
          There is such a charm Surkov

          no longer sitting !!
          1. Sotnik77s
            Sotnik77s 9 July 2013 14: 01 New
            0
            Well, somewhere, anyway, it is not just that they put him in the Kremlin of this "great schemer", they gave him billions of money for this "business man", they prepare him for something, and those who are prepared they are not supposed to be poor !!! and besides Chechen and Muslim
          2. Uncle
            Uncle 9 July 2013 14: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            no longer sitting !!

            Where did he go?
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 9 July 2013 14: 39 New
              +2
              Quote: Uncle
              Where did he go?

              yes tired of determining national politics)))))
              apparently writes memoirs !!
              but I think it will not be lost!
        2. Tykta
          Tykta 9 July 2013 16: 56 New
          -1
          You know Surkov did not determine the national policy of the Russian Federation (it’s quite easy to google), Surkov himself in his rare speeches seemed to me more than an adequate person with his point of view and quite toughly opposed himself to the liberals (and by the way, as I understand you, a liberalist?), For which apparently lost his post. Well, on his father he is a Chechen, but on his mother is he Russian, where can I put this part of him?
          just a dull sketch of a. on the fan
    2. domokl
      domokl 9 July 2013 09: 14 New
      +9
      Quote: Nevsky
      .Ukraine was torn from Russia, and this is a tragedy for two peoples, and after 20 years it will come back ...

      And why in 20 years? Right now, just those girls and boys who read the words you write about have come to the forefront. They have grown and become an active political force. The generation of 30 summers ...
    3. Joker
      Joker 9 July 2013 09: 36 New
      41
      Oh guys it seems to start soon hi it’s not long to wait when a wave of similar meetings takes place in Russia and rightly so. The point is not that Chechens are there, or not Chechens, nobody calls for Nazism, everyone just wants the same conditions for everyone, and not when this trash rolls around the city on a car and burns out of injuries, but the government does not care. The government cannot watch the observance of laws or does not want to, well, then the people will take upon themselves this function, I think a dozen mob trials around Russia and they will start to make some kind of gestures, and then suddenly someone from the Russians in the heat of the house will shout down with the governor and the corrupt power and then their heads will fly.
      1. Tykta
        Tykta 9 July 2013 11: 06 New
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        the easiest way to counteract this behavior is to take ambiguous countermeasures: the southern guest broke our guy’s arm - break him two, knock out an eye - knock out two, knock out a tooth - break your jaw. The only thing that can really frighten them is not prison and fines, but actions similar to what they allow themselves to do and think that they will go unpunished. As soon as they realize that their aggressiveness will be perceived with hostility and punishment will immediately be followed by their own deeds, the tone and behavior will immediately change.
        1. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 9 July 2013 11: 29 New
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          If for every Russian killed by Chechen to kill 1 Chechen then the Chechens will remain only on the pages of the history textbook in one line: "There was such a people ...."
          1. Tykta
            Tykta 9 July 2013 13: 25 New
            +2
            there are normal people among the children of the mountains, reasonable, reasonable, understanding that they live among people with a different mentality and who have accepted our customs and our way of life, and we were talking about those scumbags whose alpha-libido libido covers the horizon, and where they see every stranger by blood as their tributary and a slave. that is why adequate opposition will open the eyes of such animals, when at stake for their actions people who are contrary to the law will take the same actions in relation to them - which are contrary to the law but socially fair.
        2. yurii p
          yurii p 9 July 2013 12: 30 New
          0
          and if the owner broke his guest’s hand, to do as in Kushchevka to justify, you call for a civil warrior.
        3. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 9 July 2013 12: 38 New
          11
          Quote: Tykta
          the southern guest broke our guy’s hand - break him two, knocked out an eye - knock out two, knocked out a tooth - break his jaw.

          and if, God forbid, an inhabitant of the mountains made a fuss of, then take him to the gay parade in Amsterdam, after pumping up his lips and boobs with a botex and dressing him in leather thongs ...
          1. Tykta
            Tykta 9 July 2013 18: 09 New
            0
            I don’t even know what is more in your post - fantasies or stupidities ... fifty and fifty probably ... in the cell to the blue uncle-strict workers who had visited the pre-trial detention center from the stage, and then to the churchyard or to the crematorium
            1. Akhtuba73
              Akhtuba73 9 July 2013 23: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Tykta
              fantasy or nonsense

              neither one nor the other ... continued about two broken arms and stuff. Do you think a less idiotic picture is drawn from you?
              "Committee on Counteraction":
              - Southern guest keeper - 2 pcs.
              - a hand, jaw breaker, an eye beater - 1 pc.
              - the explainer for what or just for the company - 1 pc.
              Total: 4 units of popular retribution
              Why is the idea of ​​Amsterdam dumber or more fantastic ... having fun as we can on the keyboard
        4. yak69
          yak69 9 July 2013 17: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: Tykta
          the easiest way to counteract this behavior is to take ambiguous countermeasures: the southern guest broke our guy’s hand - break him two, knocked out an eye - knock out two,

          Here the situation is simpler and more complicated at the same time. Easier, because "behavior in the pack" is determined by the leader. And if the Chechen (Dagestan, Ingush, etc.) leaders gather their elders and say something like the following: "Dear fathers, please explain to everyone in your village, to your younger ones, that the law is the same for everyone and citizens of other nationalities must be respected in the same way. how you respect your fellow tribesmen. Respect the laws of those places and people where you go to live and work. "
          I am 100% sure that if such work was carried out there in the Caucasus, the situation in the country would be different.
          А more difficult, because at the helm traitors and bastards, and the fish, as you know, rots from the head.
          1. Tykta
            Tykta 9 July 2013 17: 54 New
            +1
            Yes, no elders are needed, these are all fairy tales for fools and foolish people, as well as a topic for journalists trying to uplift THEIR customs, where the elders supposedly decide everything. decides the strength and adequacy of the impact. no elder would help Marzhanov Ruslan, what they can resurrect him or prevent squabble? the only thing that can stop them is the inevitability of an adequate or exceeding counteraction, if they know that for killing himself they will kill and kill his friends who did not prevent bloodshed, then I doubt that he would have pulled out a scalpel and not tarted the Tatar.
      2. Furnace driver
        Furnace driver 9 July 2013 11: 29 New
        +4
        you already feel that the limit of patience of a Russian peasant is running out.
        the organizers of the color revolutions can easily take advantage of this situation and direct the rebellion in the direction they need ...
        one thing is good, those who go to Sagra, Surgut, but practically do not devote time to the Internet throughout Russia, once they work. but if it breaks through, lynching will be harsh.
        as in that story about a taiga fugitive from one of the TV channels: migrant workers from Uzbekistan killed the guy with whom they worked together, played football, having drunk him before sleeping pills. Having learned the brother, he came to sort it out, and the head of the farm where the migrant workers worked fired them and hired the Kirghiz. as a result, innocent Kyrgyz were brutally murdered in the course of lynching, and they sat down for revenge for their brother, but not that ...
        innocent people often suffer ... and those who are guilty are not only alive, but still continue their criminal activities but somewhere else.
      3. tverskoi77
        tverskoi77 9 July 2013 16: 06 New
        0
        Oh guys it seems to start soon

        Reasons for this, the sea + abroad will gladly help the new revolution, and the symbolic 2017 is just around the corner.
        PS the patriarch has already bought a yacht just in case, why the yacht is apparently afraid of MANPADS)))
      4. Flooding
        Flooding 9 July 2013 16: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Joker
        The government cannot watch for compliance with the laws or does not want to, well then the people will take on this function, I think a dozen lynching across Russia and they will begin to make some kind of body movements

        I'm afraid this will not solve the problem. Servants of the people sneezed at this.
        That's when the lynching begins on them themselves - then they run in like cockroaches.
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    5. screw cutter
      screw cutter 9 July 2013 10: 22 New
      0
      The idea is certainly correct, but I want to ask; How are you doing with the Tatars in the Crimea?
      1. Misantrop
        Misantrop 9 July 2013 15: 47 New
        0
        Quote: screw cutter
        How are you doing with the Tatars in Crimea?
        Too bad, to be honest. One little consolation, they ceased to be a monolith, in all obedient to their shepherds. Begin to THINK. And plan your actions based on YOUR interests (and not a dozen freaks from the board)
    6. yurii p
      yurii p 9 July 2013 12: 27 New
      0
      there is no ethnos as such since the 90s there is a caste of untouchables and bonded.
    7. Lapotnik
      Lapotnik 9 July 2013 16: 34 New
      0
      Preservation of an ethnos ...
      "From March 25 to September 29, 2013, the TV channel" Russia 1 "and the Russian Geographical Society with the support of the TV channels" Russia 2 "," Russia 24 "," Moscow 24 "," My Planet "," Strana ", regional GTRK, radio" Vesti FM "," Mayak "," Radio Rossii ", Internet portals" Vesti.Ru "and" Strana.Ru "and the information support of the newspaper" Komsomolskaya Pravda "and conduct a multimedia project-competition" Russia 10 "."
      I can understand everything, but the new building is a symbol of the country ...

      http://10russia.ru/object_31
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 9 July 2013 08: 51 New
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    Quote: Edward72
    The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.


    Here the young guys ceased to endure and began to act.

    A non-governmental organization to counteract illegal migration "Shield of Moscow" was created and operates in Moscow
    http://vk.com/board_of_msk




    Examples of the organization’s activities are posted in the video materials:

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%D1%89%D0%B8%D1%82+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%8

    1%D0%BA%D0%B2%D1%8B&oq=%D0%A9%D0%B8%D1%82+%D0%BC%D0%BE&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0.1028.2

    327.0.4412.6.5.0.1.1.0.86.328.5.5.0.eytns%2Cpt%3D-27%2Cn%3D2%2Cui%3Dt..0.0...1ac

    .1.11.youtube.6bEx-MusVZk








    Report from the organization’s website page:


    For 4 months of work of the civil public movement "Shield of Moscow":
    Checked over 100 messages from citizens, of which half were correct.
    These are 37 basements (all are closed at the moment),
    1 switchboard
    1 boiler room (converted into a dormitory),
    3 premises of DESA and 2 cellars of DESA.
    We covered 25 districts in 8 districts of Moscow!
    More than 450 illegal immigrants were discovered, of which at least 341 were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 were deported!
    1. domokl
      domokl 9 July 2013 09: 18 New
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      When the authorities are engaged in talking, people take up the matter. We feed so many services, and social activists work. It’s really bad. Because the guys are working on the verge of breaking the law and may well get into the zone with good intentions. What the government does not understand?
      1. vadimN
        vadimN 9 July 2013 11: 37 New
        10
        Quote: domokl
        Because the guys are working on the verge of breaking the law and may well get into the zone with good intentions. What the government does not understand?


        He understands perfectly well, and will even be glad of such a turn ... So that all kinds of social activists do not interfere with the business and earn money ...

        ... The passivity of the authorities will lead to the fact that Russian people brought to the limit will have to solve these problems themselves (which we already observe in Moscow and in Pugachev ... And how much information does not reach the public at all ...?)
        ... And our people are already at the limit. Remember those teachers who reprimanded their Caucasian students. If you have already taught patient teachers, what can we say about many other people?
    2. Airman
      Airman 9 July 2013 09: 30 New
      11
      [quote = GreatRussia]
      More than 450 illegal immigrants were discovered, of which at least 341 were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 were deported! [/ quote] [/ quote]

      Why not EVERYTHING? LEFT-SECURITY bodies are on guard of migrants and bandits.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 9 July 2013 09: 32 New
        +7
        Quote: Povshnik
        Why not EVERYTHING? LEFT-SECURITY bodies are on guard of migrants and bandits.

        The laws are rotten. As far as I know, the court makes the first decision on the fine, and the second in the second on the adm. expulsion.
        http://www.fmsmo.ru/uslugi_naseleniyu/otvestvennost_za_narusheniya_migratsionnog
        o_zakonodatelstva
        1. Tatanka Yotanka
          Tatanka Yotanka 9 July 2013 14: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: GreatRussia
          The laws are rotten.

          not only, but also corrupt judges, remember the case of Mitya policemen, or when the judge turns everything inside out, supposedly one attacked six Caucasians
          http://www.change.org/ru/%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8/%D0%BF%D1%80
          %D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%83-%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%
          D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D1%84%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D
          0%B8-%D0%B2-%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%83-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81
          %D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%
          D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%B8-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%8F%
          D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BA-%D0%B2-%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5-%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82
          %D0%B0-%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B0
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 40 New
        +8
        Quote: Povshnik
        at least 341 of them were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 were deported!

        Quote: Povshnik
        Why not EVERYTHING?

        Apparently, these seven did not have enough money to pay the "fine" wink
      3. domokl
        domokl 9 July 2013 09: 45 New
        +6
        [quote = Pvoshnik] More than 450 illegal immigrants were discovered, of which at least 341 were delivered to local police departments, at least 7 was deported! [/ quote] [/ quote] [/ quote]
        And don’t dream. A fine of 2000 rubles for violation and warning. This is all that awaits migrants. Especially the Kyrgyz and Tajiks. They deport most often after closing the workshops of Vietnamese and other Asian.
        It’s expensive, and they release it after a fine. And the quantity? Guys so shitty work. Any Moscow management company uses illegal immigrants to the fullest. I can even open a little secret, find out where Sobyanin will go next Saturday and boldly go on the route since evening. Big part of those who will clean the streets of illegal immigrants.
    3. Vasily T.
      Vasily T. 9 July 2013 10: 09 New
      +5
      To this shield you still need a sword.
      1. Airman
        Airman 9 July 2013 12: 05 New
        +4
        Quote: Vasily T.
        To this shield you still need a sword.


        And the sword was called a policeman, and to the policeman from the time of the Second World War you yourself know what relation.
    4. Furnace driver
      Furnace driver 9 July 2013 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: GreatRussia
      Report from the organization’s website page:
      He began to notice on the streets of national combatants in some cities coordinated with the police. a year ago, I didn’t notice this from the time of the USSR
  • w.ebdo.g
    w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 08: 51 New
    -4
    This whole scandal was created for one purpose - to start a civil war with a result not in our favor. That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms in order to turn popular anger into revolution. In the hope that the chocks in this case will also rise and the Syrian scenario will begin. And all this is being done very actively in the last 6-7 years. Just after the statement in 2004, when Putin at the UN assembly openly called the amers invaders and called on all countries to disobey the will of the State Department ...
    America has already tried all sorts of tricks, while the chocks themselves are defiant, but now you can’t organize a war to force these chocks to peace. Now the country has just begun positive changes, we need to have time to do a lot, gain strength, gain sovereignty, teach the media to tell the truth and not fried, frivolous things, to expel American agents and saboteurs from all the vital organs of the country.
    and after that the time will come for forcing our chocks to peace ...
    therefore we endure, wait, prepare ...
    I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...
    Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking drastic measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...

    1. Nevsky
      Nevsky 9 July 2013 09: 02 New
      16
      w.ebdo.g
      This whole scandal was created for one purpose - to start a civil war with a result not in our favor. That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms in order to turn popular anger into revolution. In the hope that the chocks in this case will also rise and the Syrian scenario will begin.


      The administration of the city of Pugachev and the 16-year-old Chechen acted in collusion with the CIA? what
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 09: 51 New
        +4
        and you don’t need to guide everyone, just set a common line of behavior and actions
      2. Furnace driver
        Furnace driver 9 July 2013 11: 42 New
        +7
        With the connivance of both the local administration and the administrations of a higher level, illegal immigrants actively settled in these territories, while Russians from abroad put obstacles. In a village, you often stop by, abandoned villages — they are populated by Caucasians and Asians, only they most often do not even buy back home or land. but they simply populate with the full connivance of the authorities and then get the hell out of there, but they slaughter the sheep and Alah Akbar scream and they’ll evict them. now go find the real owners of the houses thrown.
        This time bomb was actively introduced and continues to be introduced in Russia. Soon, not only Russians will leave Stavropol, but also from Voronezh, Tula, Saratov and other areas ...
        To what it came even the Kurds and those populated, and Russian going to the horseradish homeland with two
    2. Syrzhn
      Syrzhn 9 July 2013 09: 07 New
      +8
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      It is too early. Tolerate ..

      That is, we will tolerate right now, tolerate, while Putin "protects" the Chechens, and then, when it becomes "very good," Putin himself will punish all the guilty, and will the "lumps" themselves understand that they are behaving badly? Did I understand you correctly?
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 08 New
      10
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms

      Hello, Sergey! When our own scumbags freak out like this, the same thing happens in social networks. People just don't like the way the guests behave, that's all.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 16 New
        16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        People just don't like the way the guests behave, that's all.

        Hi Sanya!
        I can tell from the experience of my country!
        As the authorities allow, guests will behave in such a way!
        The trouble with your country is that the authorities and the law enforcement agencies are not fulfilling their duties at the proper level!
        There are two options why!
        1. That against the background of theft and corruption, an image of the guilty visitors would be created for the people!
        2. They can not and do not want to fulfill their duties!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: Yarbay
          The trouble with your country is that the authorities and the law enforcement agencies are not fulfilling their duties at the proper level!

          Our authorities are working on a report for a higher authority. Everything changes only when people take to the streets.
          Hi Alibek hi
        2. mogus
          mogus 9 July 2013 10: 22 New
          +1
          As authorities allow
          guests will behave!

          Actually, the 21st century is in the yard. Knowingly, our attitude to everyone is as to educated people. But if they so want, we will release "into the world" only after training.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 11: 30 New
            +2
            Quote: mogus
            Actually 21st century in the yard

            Yes 21st century, in the 20th century it was better hi
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      2. w.ebdo.g
        w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 09: 44 New
        -2
        Hello, Sanya!
        if you had a goal to raise insurrection in the country, then who would you begin to nod more? to the Russian showdown or to chock?
        right - on chock. Because they are more effective in raising rebellion. Because chock behave a priori badly. Therefore, to create a riot, you need to use the anger of the people for a certain diaspora, wait for the conflict to happen and inflate it to a universal scale ...
        I am against chocks, but now it’s too early to start, you have to tolerate at least a year ...
        and what’s needed is not a revolt with war and killings, but for the correctional and legislative system to start working for the country and put those who don’t want to behave normally, no matter what nationality. Just now, the correctional court system is against the country. They are correcting it now. They will fix it, then within a couple of months they will close those who behave themselves unworthily. And no war! Because war is SCARY!
        I think so.
        1. vadimN
          vadimN 9 July 2013 11: 49 New
          +4
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          Just now, the correctional court system is against the country. She is being corrected now.


          Do not bother to give a couple of examples of corrective actions? ... And then there’s nothing to see ...
        2. Tykta
          Tykta 9 July 2013 13: 02 New
          +2
          What kind of war are you talking about? you talk a lot about the law, but in fact, do the guests respect our laws? they have relatives and money that help them in most cases to avoid punishment or to suffer a punishment disproportionately less than the harm that they caused. Sviridov, Agafonov, Mazharov - and how many more cases have not received wide publicity? Are they legally killing and maiming our guys? It is elementary to introduce the practice of a similar punishment, for mutilation - mutilation, for death - death.
    4. Papakiko
      Papakiko 9 July 2013 09: 19 New
      13
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ... Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking radical measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...

      You certainly endure if this is your life postulate.
      And we, at the "requests of the workers," periodically "play" in the towns.
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    5. domokl
      domokl 9 July 2013 09: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      It is too early. Tolerate ...

      There will be no civil war. Nobody needs it. But you need to stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs. What hysteria, if this is the third case? We understand perfectly well that the cases of previous killings are closed or prolonged precisely for political and economic reasons (not in the subject) .People simply demand justice for everyone. Regardless of nationality and the amount of money. In large cities, this is not so obvious, but on the periphery everyone sees everything, knows everything and accumulates hatred.
      We have highlighted a huge problem, and we must solve it urgently.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        . But you need to stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs

        To stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs is simply to give an order and that’s it. One problem, who would give this order what
        Hi Sasha.
        1. domokl
          domokl 9 July 2013 09: 49 New
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          To stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs is simply to give an order and that’s it.

          Hi Sash. Not easy. Order by order, but ... Watch a movie on any channel lol Everyone needs to eat. The police do not want a showdown (they will remove the boss). And the head of the clan guarantees it.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: domokl
            The police do not want a showdown (they will remove the chief). And the head of the clan guarantees this.

            Then there will be more people going out into the streets. The inaction of some will push others to act. It always has been and never will be otherwise hi
            1. domokl
              domokl 9 July 2013 10: 07 New
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Then people going out into the streets will be getting bigger

              So it is. People take to the streets more often. If earlier it was possible to somehow control and extinguish, now people are just tired of being afraid and believing in justice. That’s why I wrote about a big problem for the Russian government.
              I just read the comments on the note about the elimination of the next bandit in Chechnya. And no one wrote that the Chechen police and security forces are great. But the fact that in response to the murder of the boy you need to destroy the bandits, yes.
              Do you understand where the wind blows? That's the same thing. They are pushing us to national discord, to decay on a national basis.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 11: 29 New
                +1
                Quote: domokl
                .We are being pushed to ethnic hatred, to disintegration along ethnic lines.

                And who is doing this?
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 54 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          To stir up the Ministry of Internal Affairs is simply to give an order and that’s it. One problem, who would give this order


          Remember Sanya, when Kolokoltsev was appointed Minister of the Interior, he said that he would first deal with ethnic criminal gangs!
          I was then surprised that why it was ethnic, why not with all the criminal gangs !!
          That is, the minister clearly knowing about the situation expressed the most painful topic !!
          So what has changed ??
          Where are the results of the struggle ??
          or was it a hint to these groups to pay a new roof?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 11: 28 New
            +3
            Quote: Yarbay
            when Kolokoltsev was appointed Minister of the Interior, he stated

            Well, many of us just do what they say. Rogozin sculpts every day and what ???
            Quote: Yarbay
            Where are the results of the struggle ??

            On paper laughing
      2. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 9 July 2013 10: 53 New
        +3
        I agree with you completely. The main thing is not lynching, but forcing the authorities to fulfill their direct duties, it is time to remind them of the Constitution and their duties. And then they are used to stealing and not doing anything!
    6. mamba
      mamba 9 July 2013 09: 39 New
      22
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      endure, wait, prepare ...
      I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...

      A strange mixture of masochism and naivety. Caucasians will never willingly live with us according to our rules. Isn't it easier for Putin to demand compliance with the law, regardless of the size of the wallet and hair color? Then the Caucasians will lose the desire to "test the strength" of local residents, which they love very much. But a little they will be pressed, the voyages of godfathers from the diasporas begin, complaints of oppression, hints of revenge. This is where Putin would show power, punish local officials and cops who cover the Caucasian thugs, imprison criminals from the Caucasus in accordance with the law, giving them real, or better, maximum terms in order to knock them off the arrogance generated by impunity and savagery, which was brought up in them from childhood.
      Caucasians should understand that a Russian bear breaks any Chechen wolf, and therefore biting a Russian bear is more expensive for itself. But Putin, if he wants to stay in power longer, must understand that the patience of the people is not unlimited. But, judging by the domestic politics in the country, it seems that he has not yet thought about this topic. And it's high time!
    7. baltika-18
      baltika-18 9 July 2013 09: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      therefore we endure, wait, prepare.

      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      It is too early. Tolerate ...

      Tolerate PATTERN .......
      What else can you hear from those kneeling before Putin's "genius"?
      1. Manager
        Manager 9 July 2013 10: 55 New
        -7
        Quote: baltika-18

        Tolerate PATTERN .......
        What else can you hear from those kneeling before Putin's "genius"?

        And what you need to rush headlong into the civil war? Are you not afraid to lose your country? I'm afraid. Therefore, I believe that it is impossible. Such zeal as yours will not lead to anything good.
        1. vadimN
          vadimN 9 July 2013 11: 53 New
          15
          Quote: Manager
          Are you not afraid to lose your country? I'm afraid


          I, too, am afraid of losing my country, and therefore with pain I see how the government simply GIVES my country to the Islamists. Slowly, calmly, busily gives, spitting on all the protests. The Russians are destined for what you preach here - BEAT!
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 July 2013 16: 37 New
        0
        Quote: baltika-18
        Tolerate PATTERN .......
        What else can you hear from those kneeling before Putin's "genius"?

        Or maybe the victim got a little boy ????
    8. vadimN
      vadimN 9 July 2013 11: 46 New
      17
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking drastic measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people.


      The situation has long been such that Russian people must be protected from the aggression of these freaks.

      The Russian World has always accepted foreigners into itself, preserving their national identity. In the Russian Empire, not a single nation died, did not assimilate, and preserved its language and culture. Now the reverse process is happening - everything is aimed at wiping out the Russian World, the Russian nation, and Russian culture.
      The Islamization of Russia is purposeful and aggressive, and is being implemented by the current government of Russia ... And you say, be patient? This is what they need - be patient, Russians, until we completely fill your country, until we become a majority and turn you into slaves in our own land ...
    9. MahsusNazar
      MahsusNazar 9 July 2013 14: 44 New
      -1
      I support the idea that everything is not without reason. Indeed, a bit of a fight, which immediately hysteria with nationalism.
    10. Andrey Skokovsky
      Andrey Skokovsky 9 July 2013 14: 57 New
      0
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      This whole scandal was created for one purpose - to start a civil war with a result not in our favor. That is why any domestic clash with chocks is exposed in hysterical forms in order to turn popular anger into revolution. In the hope that the chocks in this case will also rise and the Syrian scenario will begin. And all this is being done very actively in the last 6-7 years. Just after the statement in 2004, when Putin at the UN assembly openly called the amers invaders and called on all countries to disobey the will of the State Department ...
      America has already tried all sorts of tricks, while the chocks themselves are defiant, but now you can’t organize a war to force these chocks to peace. Now the country has just begun positive changes, we need to have time to do a lot, gain strength, gain sovereignty, teach the media to tell the truth and not fried, frivolous things, to expel American agents and saboteurs from all the vital organs of the country.
      and after that the time will come for forcing our chocks to peace ...
      therefore we endure, wait, prepare ...
      I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...
      Putin understands all this and that is why he is not taking drastic measures, protecting these freaks from the aggression of Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...


      you’re right, but it’s impossible to hush up the problem anymore,
      Starikov’s air defense will now campaign for the return of the columns of nationality to our passepartout and the recognition of the Russian state-forming nation.
    11. Misantrop
      Misantrop 9 July 2013 15: 51 New
      0
      Quote: w.ebdo.g
      I hope that there will be no war and the lumps will understand - you need to live by the general rules ...

      With what joy would they need to learn and abide by ALIEN rules for them if they spit on their own? SAMO never does anything
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 03 New
    24
    Russians, instead of kneading Caucasians, knead each other (cops-citizens).
    Cops, in turn, instead of having to pile on guests, pile on their compatriots.
    The question is, what kind of prestige of the police (police) are we talking about when the police do not understand which side ???
    1. strange and pretty meaningless
      strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 09: 17 New
      +5
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that the disclaimer state has withdrawn from all obligations. The corporate party serves only itself. Let the natives survive as they know how. Household mochilovo - excellent! - and spectacular, and a drain of emotions.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 17 New
      11
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Cops, in turn, instead of heaping guests, pile on their compatriots

      Sanya cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS, not * ours * or * yours * !!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 44 New
        10
        Quote: Yarbay
        cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS,

        Alibek, between the fact that the cops MUST and the fact that they MAKE a big chasm hi
        1. 12061973
          12061973 9 July 2013 11: 24 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Alibek, between the fact that the cops MUST and the fact that they MAKE a big chasm

          everyone found out about this incident, so that the cops are afraid to take money, they will put the pretzel for 8 years, in the zone he will meet his brothers wisely and leave 25 years old when he leaves for the forest, the circle is closed. The Ingush who was sitting in eburg for the Neva Express in prison was killed.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 9 July 2013 16: 49 New
            0
            And in the woods it all the same banged. Maybe right then, without waiting for the forest?
        2. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 9 July 2013 17: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS, not * our * or * yours * !!

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          , between the fact that the cops SHOULD and the fact that they MAKE a big gulf

          Hi guys hi In the 90s, when the ministers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs changed like socks, we in St. Petersburg were lying around indiscriminately - who deserved it and got wassat The tops were not up to us, and we all twisted ourselves as we could. We rarely succeeded in planting someone, but bulls of all stripes raked in full
      2. w.ebdo.g
        w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 09: 48 New
        +1
        Yarbay cops should wallow CRIMINALS, not * ours * or * yours * !!

        gold words! very true and right said. But the judicial system has been bloodless for 20 years, respectable judges and investigators have been squeezed out of it, and the normal ones in a minority. Now there is a systematic reorganization of this system. It takes time, at least a year ...
        then the correctional system will begin to act in the interests of the state.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 9 July 2013 10: 12 New
          +6
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          But the judicial system has been bloodless for 20 years, respectable judges and investigators have been squeezed out of it,

          I didn’t understand something. Putin launched a reform of the judicial system in 2006. A target program for 2007-2011 was approved, a lot of money was allocated. Now 2013 actually.
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It takes time, at least a year ...

          And what should happen this year, all judges will become honest?
          And besides, another program was approved 2013-2020 and again the money has been allocated.
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          then the correctional system will begin to act in the interests of the state.

          And now she acts in the interests of the authorities, but not of the people.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 10: 20 New
          +7
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It takes time, at least a year ...

          who needs time ???
          Since nothing has been done, nothing has been done!
          1. w.ebdo.g
            w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 10: 55 New
            -5
            Yarbay, all you have to do is DO. It’s just that you’re not personally reported)))
            the president and his team are trying to regain sovereignty to the country. Now you can’t be distracted by riots with the Chechens ...
            the stakes are too high. You can win the battle, but lose the whole war for the sovereignty of the state.
            WAR is very scary and expensive for any state. And civilian is meaner and more destructive than any other.
            I think so.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 9 July 2013 11: 05 New
              +8
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              Yarbay, all you have to do is DO. It’s just that you’re not personally reported)))

              Yes, I do not need to report!
              I am not blind and I see perfectly that nothing has been done and is not being done!
              When patience is bursting with the people, they immediately ask that they say give time, give a year, and we will fix everything !!
              Normal divorce !!
              1. dmb
                dmb 9 July 2013 13: 39 New
                +2
                Greetings to Alibek. Personally, I have a feeling that your interlocutor was already listed on the site in the past. In style and rhetoric, it is very similar to the citizen "Konyashkin-lamp-bearer" or "Zheku-electric". Indeed, apart from the slogans about "Timur and his team," he does not give any arguments, apparently due to their "secrecy" or absence.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 9 July 2013 13: 55 New
                  +1
                  Quote: dmb
                  Greetings to Alibek. Personally, I have a feeling that your interlocutor was already listed on the site in the past. In style and rhetoric it is very similar to the citizen "Konyashkin the lamp-bearer" or "Zheku-electric"


                  Hi Dmitry!
                  I already wrote here that the writing style is very similar to * trivolta *!
                  Apparently not only you and I noticed this!
                  It’s just really painful for me to see what they’re doing with your country!
                  Recently I was in Moscow, having read everything here, I was pleasantly surprised by the hospitality of the people!
                  True, one uncle in the subway resented why I was in a jacket in the summer and tried to provoke me))))) (The uncle was very drunk)
                  alas, it was not possible to stay for a long time !!)
            2. strange and pretty meaningless
              strange and pretty meaningless 10 July 2013 02: 53 New
              +1
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              Now you can’t be distracted by riots with the Chechens ...
              the stakes are too high.

              ... the second wave of privatization is underway, the "reform" of the RAS. Zae .. or already pro-Putin mystics. Everything WILL BE - wait for landing while we drain the fuel ...
        3. Manager
          Manager 9 July 2013 10: 57 New
          0
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It takes time, at least a year ...

          You here in every comment write "At least go" .... Where are these terms from? Where such confidence? Write to us too. We are also interested!
          1. w.ebdo.g
            w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 11: 48 New
            -9
            Manager
            From where are these dates? Where such confidence?

            try to be aware of the events, take an interest in what is happening in the country not only from the yellow press, then this question will disappear by itself.
            Now there is an accelerated preparation of a popular speech for the sovereignty of the country. Painstaking preparation, it should happen next year, either at the beginning or in the middle. By this time, key posts should be cleared of agents of influence and malicious corrupt officials. The Ministry of Internal Affairs must undergo a global purge and replacement of leadership positions.
            They must have time to pass a number of legislative acts for the possibility of people speaking out for their sovereignty. The media are beginning to pump the idea that you need to go out at the right time, so that it becomes clear to everyone that the people are against acupation and want sovereignty in the country.
            And not 100 thousand, but 10 - 20 million people should leave.
            Two months ago, there were demonstrations in 100 cities of Russia that attracted at least 1 people for sovereignty. Have you heard anything? not? because the media is still under the acupuncture. And a million is not enough. Therefore, a big way out of people is being prepared now.
            Amers know about this and how they can force the national theme with the Chechens, so that everyone has no time for sovereignty, and to connect the activity of the masses with an internal war.

            What do you still not understand?

            Thanks for attention.
            1. Manager
              Manager 9 July 2013 12: 09 New
              0
              Quote: w.ebdo.g
              What do you still not understand?


              All clear. But again. Facts to the studio!
              1. baltika-18
                baltika-18 9 July 2013 13: 40 New
                +4
                [quote = Manager] Everything is clear. But again. Facts in the studio! [/ Quote]
                Yes, he doesn’t have a damn thing.
                All their factual material is a site "made by us", and the speeches of Zhenya Fedorov. [Quote = w.ebdo.g] The media is still under the auspices [/ quote
                Yes, and Russian cobenite.
                Ugh ...
        4. vadimN
          vadimN 9 July 2013 11: 58 New
          +7
          Quote: w.ebdo.g
          It takes time, at least a year ...


          And what will happen in a year? Not a single reform yields results for the year, unless, of course, this is a negative result ...
          For a year, the situation can only get worse, the diaspora to get stronger, organize, fill up with new people ...
          ... Any delay in resolving the issue only exacerbates the problem, drives it in, makes the subsequent solution more painful!
        5. strange and pretty meaningless
          strange and pretty meaningless 10 July 2013 02: 49 New
          +1
          Fresh tradition - but hard to believe. I did not notice new faces in the judges. If you only master a soul transplant wassat
      3. baltika-18
        baltika-18 9 July 2013 11: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: Yarbay
        Sanya cops should be fooled by CRIMINALS, not * ours * or * yours * !!

        As we have criminals, newly-minted police fool around, we know.
        If the criminal doesn't have a roof and doesn't have much money, that one is in the "cover".
        And if both are abundant (communications, money), I don’t want to go for a walk.
      4. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 11: 44 New
        10
        In Vlad, a few years ago, Judge Pavlov gave a ridiculous suspended sentence for murder. an Azeri on fuse in a traffic jam discharged a traumatic into the head of a pensioner. The diaspora bought off the family - but the wave began to rise. The judge was quietly shaken off to a well-deserved rest - estimate his pension, but the verdict remained in force. An article for making a knowingly unjust court decision DOES NOT WORK - the authorities openly declare this. Does it make sense in these conditions to "reform" the cops-policemen?
  • sashka
    sashka 9 July 2013 09: 40 New
    +5
    Quote: Egorchik
    in any situation, the Russians remain extreme.

    There is a way out .. It is necessary to create a "diaspora" and settle all the problems in a simple way, over a glass of tea. Why is everyone allowed, but we are not allowed ??
    1. 12061973
      12061973 9 July 2013 11: 14 New
      0
      Quote: Sasha
      There is a way out .. It is necessary to create a "diaspora" and settle all the problems in a simple way, over a glass of tea. Why is everyone allowed, but we are not allowed ??

      Well, create a diaspora in Chechnya, there’s even a republican program to return the Russians, and we’ll see how it ends, but you’d better not be alive.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 9 July 2013 12: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Sasha
      It is necessary to create the same "diaspora"

      Quote: abyrvalg
      The diaspora paid off from the family - but the wave began to rise

      Yes, what a diaspora do not grind nonsense!
      Just surely relatives were thrown off at best!
      1. strange and pretty meaningless
        strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 12: 52 New
        +3
        Do not get excited, dear, calmer. There is no fundamental difference. A family can be large. And very big. A conversation for the INACTIVITY of state authorities, through rotten justice. That's where the shoots of nationalism sprout. I’m on the drum that the diaspora itself may punish itself (maybe strictly) - but this is UNFair. This is UNDERSTANDING.
        As a counterargument against nationalism, I will cite another case - but we will do without surnames. Talk about Russia in the dashing 90s. In the county town A, a certain flower merchant orders a large batch of flowers in Azerbaijan. In Azerbaijan, there is a mediator who takes this party with borrowed money and forwards it to A. Trader (we will consider the titular nation - maybe democratic, I don’t know) sell flowers. But he is not in a hurry to return the money. The family of a mediator at home - and in Azerbaijan also the dashing 90s - is taken hostage. Tearful negotiations with the merchant follow - to no avail. The child of the intermediary is being killed. He buys the last penny the old TTshnik, goes to the city of A. - and before the eyes of his grandson, a business shift fells. Such is the story. Everyone understood everything - the national question did not come up (I simplify - but they understood the idea).
        So here it is not necessary to go over to the individual - but to mature into the root of evil. Where do legs grow from - and who sows the seeds? They would have taken this Chechen "surgeon" - and punished demonstratively. Not symbolically - but FAIRLY. In the name of the Russian Federation. Then you can go further without looking back. In the meantime, all this fuss is extinguished the privatization of science and state property. Yes, Snowdens and Chapmans are on Twitter.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 13: 39 New
          -1
          Quote: abyrvalg
          A family can be large.

          and what does * diaspora * ??
          I do not know a more incomprehensible organization and not organized!
          Quote: abyrvalg
          Tearful negotiations with the merchant follow - to no avail. The child of the intermediary is killed

          I do not believe!!
          Quote: abyrvalg
          So here it is not necessary to go over to personality - but to mature into the root of evil
          Where did I get personal?
          Quote: abyrvalg
          They would have taken this Chechen "surgeon" - and punished demonstratively. Not symbolically - but FAIRLY.

          here again write a lie !!
          That the killer of Sviridov’s fan was not punished by JUSTICE or by the LAW ???
          Hundreds of Caucasians criminals are in prison and imprisoned for long periods !!
          Who besides Mirzaev was kept in jail for his crime so much ??
          1. strange and pretty meaningless
            strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 14: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            I do not believe!!

            Your case - the Ubopovs told me this story, then there were UBOPs in each district department.
            Quote: Yarbay
            Where did I get personal?

            Quote: Yarbay
            here again write a lie !! That the murderer of a fan of Sviridov was not punished by JUSTICE and not by the LAW ???
            Hundreds of Caucasians criminals are in prison and imprisoned for long periods !!
            Who besides Mirzaev was kept in jail for his crime so much ??

            My dear friend, don't get frustrated. You are answering unasked questions. I did not understand the cases listed by you. There are many such cases - there are all sorts of examples. Speech about the work of the state machine "justice" - which is not true? I - about the right "to the left". The national question is not the point here. You can commit a crime and not get punished, but you can, on the contrary, be punished for a crime that did not exist. When, against the background of the landing of Kvachkov (term of 13 years), Mr. Serdyukov and Sir Gozman are working for Mr. Chubais, and they are preparing Rusnano for "privatization," then questions arise for Mr. Putin. Here is the main point. You may think that I moved to offtopic - but this very much touches the topic of the article.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 9 July 2013 14: 46 New
              +1
              Quote: abyrvalg
              Your case - the Ubopovs told me this story, then there were UBOPs in each district department.

              then lie!
              I know well the methods of our gangsters!
              They wouldn’t have killed a child for this, but would have come and milked such a businessman with your local people, especially at 90!
              Fictional story!
              Quote: abyrvalg
              Kind, don't break

              why do you think so???!!!
              Yes, I do not break))) I am completely calm !!
              Quote: abyrvalg
              Speech about the work of the state machine "justice" - which is not true? I - about the right "to the left"

              I completely agree with this !!
              So what to do??
              I do not see the prerequisites that in the coming years something has changed for the better in this direction !!
              1. strange and pretty meaningless
                strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 15: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay
                ... and they would come and milk such a businessman with your local people, especially in 90 years!
                Fictional story!

                Regarding events in the city of A., I vouch personally. I didn’t see what happened in Azerbaijan, but you must agree that it’s impossible to do such a thing. Even in the dashing 90s. In terms of the association of bandits - hardly - not on that scale, large distances (over 9000 laughing km) and intercultural "contradictions".

                Quote: Yarbay
                I do not see the prerequisites that in the coming years something has changed for the better in this direction !!
                request How to know, how to know ...
                And by the way, quite a lot of Azerbaijanis walked with me on the ship in the Kuril Islands. In general, quite adequate men. I saw your flag drinks
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 9 July 2013 16: 27 New
                  +1
                  Quote: abyrvalg
                  As regards the unification of bandits - it is hardly - not the same scale, long distances (over 9000 km) and intercultural "contradictions".

                  For this, in Russia in big cities * decision-makers * sat who gladly took such a percentage of the case, so there was no need to go anywhere !!
                  often then they threw everyone!
                  Quote: abyrvalg
                  I saw your flag

                  In my opinion they did not make out)))))))))))))))))
                  Here he is Turkish, although he guessed it, the roofing felts are poorly understood, or they found out in another way))))))))))
                  1. strange and pretty meaningless
                    strange and pretty meaningless 9 July 2013 16: 38 New
                    +1
                    Yes, I see that Turkish hi . You yourself write: I know well the methods of our gangsters! Here I am - by the totality of signs. laughing
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    who gladly took such interest

                    Now these are state-building elements ...
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    then they threw everyone!

                    And nothing has changed. And in that case, it was decided like that.
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 9 July 2013 16: 45 New
                    0
                    Quote: abyrvalg
                    Here I am - by the totality of signs

                    So they used the deductive method, and did not look at it !!)))
                    And you are a dangerous person!))
                    Good luck to you!
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 9 July 2013 15: 46 New
    +4
    Quote: Sasha
    There is a way out .. It is necessary to create a "diaspora" and settle all the problems in a simple way, over a glass of tea. Why is everyone allowed, but we are not allowed ??

    I already wrote here about these diasporas, what they do, who they have in their leaders and believe with whose people their interests are, they seem to represent they are not particularly interested, as well as representatives of the people to deeply sneeze on them.
    These diasporas are too exaggerated due to stupid stereotypes served through the media.
  • T-100
    T-100 9 July 2013 12: 10 New
    +3
    Get up the Huge Country, Get up on Mortal Kombat, with the impudent Chur power dark, with the damned horde !!!!
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 9 July 2013 13: 04 New
    0
    the power you have done well poor life low salary big inflation killed someone or else it's not our fault it's Chechens atu them
    Quote: Egorchik
    Well done, I absolutely agree, the authorities are already crossing all borders covering these freaks, and in any situation the Russians remain extreme.
  • Troitsky
    Troitsky 9 July 2013 14: 59 New
    0
    As far as I know, the criminal was soldered for 10 years, and the relatives of the deceased were given 500 thousand rubles.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 9 July 2013 21: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Egorchik
    in any situation, the Russians remain extreme.

    The paradox is that calling yourself Russian in this situation is practically impossible - the authorities immediately rank you among nationalists
  • KILLAvolt
    KILLAvolt 10 July 2013 16: 45 New
    0
    Mister President, return the death penalty to the Country so that both Chechens, Russians and other non-Russians know that if you have a scalpel in your pocket (any other weapon that can be killed) and if you kill someone with it, you will get it yourself tower! And believe me, there will be fewer deaths, fewer! The brain will still turn on in some representatives of our society! And so now we have a real legalized Anarchy in our country !!! "I will kill and nothing will happen to me!" Those terms that give, except for rare cases of life sentences, are nothing compared to the grief of the relatives of the dead people! Think, please, while the people still believe you!
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 10 July 2013 16: 52 New
    0
    And what do you want from the bandits ??? Tricks of extortion and disassembly. How many Osarat officials wrote? One Lysenko is judged, and others .... And Ipatov ?? He quietly served two terms in the governorship ... The city as a garbage dump was broken ... True, recently they began to actively clean up the city .... Although for the second week we sit without hot water in such heat ...
  • Edward72
    Edward72 9 July 2013 08: 04 New
    23
    The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 9 July 2013 08: 38 New
      +9
      Quote: Edward72
      The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.

      the lawlessness of some breeds terror of others
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. sashka
      sashka 9 July 2013 10: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: Edward72
      The people begin to quietly go wild with lawlessness.

      Don’t get so excited .. We have a government, a thought, and of course a president .. They worry about you. They don’t sleep at night. I eat a sandwich in the morning and I think, but how are the people? About slaves in the galleys, it’s so clear .. Then what?
  • Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 9 July 2013 08: 06 New
    +6
    These "friends" themselves incite ethnic hatred, and then they cry the most! Sorry for the boy, only 20 years old ...
    1. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 09: 52 New
      -15
      among the lumps there are special provocateurs who are even ready to go to jail, but to complete the assigned task, especially in the area where everything is already ready for a riot. People "got", the correspondents are at the ready, the cops are inactive, here's a riot for you!
      do not succumb to provocations. There will still be time to restore order. But if you start a war now, then there will be no time ...
      Tolerate and getting ready ...
      I think so.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 9 July 2013 10: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        Tolerate and getting ready ...

        Something you have the cutest masochistic tendencies appear.
        And by the way, what to prepare for?
        You all somehow foggy up.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 10: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: baltika-18
          Something you have the cutest masochistic tendencies appear.
          And by the way, what to prepare for?
          You all somehow foggy up.

          ))))))))))))))))))))
          Something he told me * of trivalt * reminded))))))))))))
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 9 July 2013 11: 14 New
            0
            Quote: Yarbay
            Something he told me * of trivalt * reminded))))))))))))

            Yeah....
            Associations, Alibek, not one of you.
      2. mamba
        mamba 9 July 2013 10: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        There will still be time to restore order. But if you start a war now, then there will be no time ...

        Order must be established here and now, and not wait for the "green whistle" from the Kremlin. No one is going to start a war, the people demand from the authorities to observe the law equally for everyone. The level of these requirements is proportional to the tension in the given place. Our cowardly local authorities begin to react only to mass demonstrations of indignant citizens, especially after a call from Moscow, how, they say, did you allow this? The main incentive for local officials is rocking the chair under them, and this process is possible both from above and from below.
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 10: 59 New
          -3
          mamba, I need to put things in order, I agree, but those who have to put things in order should also be organized and cleaned out of their ranks of freaks that act to the detriment of the state.
          Then you can put things in order with them (the police). And it takes time to restore order in the judicial system.
          If you start "putting things in order" now, there will be war.
          If everything is done systematically, there will be order without war.
          What do you like more?
          you decide what you need more war or order?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 11 New
            +2
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            If you start "putting things in order" now, there will be war.

            What the hell is war?
            1. w.ebdo.g
              w.ebdo.g 9 July 2013 11: 55 New
              -6
              What the hell is war?

              same as in Syria ...
              and you, what not vkurse?))))
              there is a war there and it began in exactly the same way, with a feud between the two nationalities. The technologies are the same, and the result may be the same, if we now go on about the United States.
              Syria is in chaos. This is exactly what I do not want. What is war, I personally know, and many on the website only saw it on TV and played airsoft counter)))
              Thanks for attention.
              kill in war ...
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 9 July 2013 12: 20 New
                +8
                Quote: w.ebdo.g
                What is war, I personally know

                And why did you decide that I do not know?

                But there will be no war, there will be an analogue of "St. Bartholomew's Night". Russian revolt, senseless and merciless (s)
                And the authorities and the diasporas have long had to think about this. Bursts of anger occur more and more often. And the quantity can turn into quality.
                1. Committee
                  Committee 9 July 2013 12: 55 New
                  +9
                  Merciless - yes. Meaningless - never. Do not consider Russian fools.
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 10 July 2013 02: 25 New
                    +1
                    Do not consider Russian fools.
                    some who cannot see thought in the quote (c) of Pushkin. thereby hinting that Pushkin considered Russian fools ..?
                    “Do not bring God to see the Russian rebellion - meaningless and merciless. Those who plan impossible coups in our country are either young and do not know our people, or people who are cruel, who have someone else’s head in the middle, and even their own penny. ”
              2. Hleb
                Hleb 10 July 2013 02: 17 New
                +1
                What is war, I personally know

                judging by the fact that you have uploaded the second photo (from the movie "War" by Balabanov), it is clear how you know)
          2. mamba
            mamba 9 July 2013 11: 50 New
            +5
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            those who should restore order should also be organized and cleaned out of their ranks of freaks who act to the detriment of the state. Then you can restore order with their (police) help.

            If the implementation of the "reform" in the militia boiled down only to changing the name and expelling from its ranks those who were objectionable to the authorities, then we will never wait for the establishment of order in this structure, which is now only engaged in making money. Who prevented Putin the prime minister and Putin the president from carrying out a normal reform? The same applies to the judicial system and the prosecutor's office.
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            And it takes time to restore order in the judicial system.

            Time passes, but "things are still there."
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            If you start "putting things in order" now, there will be war.

            Those. if Putin begins to restore order among his officials of all stripes, then will they start the war? Hard to believe.
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            If everything is done systematically, there will be order without war.
            What do you like more?
            you decide what you need more war or order?

            I made up my mind a long time ago and wrote in my previous posts in this thread, but I'm ready to repeat once again: we need to quickly "build" officials, show them that they are not local princelings who are outrageous, but just service people who must listen to the people with one ear and the others - the Kremlin. Severely punish them for embezzling the budget, skimping on their duties, ignoring the needs of the people. This does not require a lot of time and long waiting for the result. Everything can be done quickly and without war, which you constantly frighten us with. Order without war! There would only be a desire. But it seems that the vertical of power was not created for this ...
      3. Tykta
        Tykta 9 July 2013 11: 10 New
        -2
        TERPILA READY
      4. fzr1000
        fzr1000 9 July 2013 16: 57 New
        +1
        Tolerate and getting ready ...


        No, it's better - SMILING and MASH.
        Do you seriously write all THIS, or is it a banter?
  • tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 9 July 2013 08: 06 New
    19
    He also urged the residents of Pugachev to remain calm. What the hell was that, repeat offenders appeared, why calm down here, with the inaction of the local government! am
  • waisson
    waisson 9 July 2013 08: 11 New
    +1

    Residents of the city near Saratov first surrounded the local administration building, and then tried to block the federal highway.

    In the city of Pugachev, Saratov Region, where 6-year-old paratrooper Ruslan Marzhanov was killed on the night of July 20, local residents staged a mass protest.

    Thus, people tried to express their dissatisfaction with the sluggish, in their opinion, reaction of the authorities to the high-profile crime. They considered that the 17-year-old killer of the former paratrooper could escape a well-deserved punishment, took to the streets and demanded justice.

    People gathered on the central square of the city right under the windows of the Pugachev administration building. The head of the city Stanislav Sidorov came out to the audience. But the conversation went wrong from the very beginning.

    Several young people attacked the head of the Pugachev administration, dousing him with water from a bottle. After that, a group of activists tried to break into the administration building, taking it by storm. The police arrived in time to defend the city hall.

    However, the dispersed crowd, demanding the restoration of justice, decided to change the location and went towards the federal highway. There, several dozen young people, standing in a living chain, completely blocked the movement. After some time, law enforcement officials managed to push people off the roadway.

    Let us remind you that the attack on the former paratrooper Ruslan Marzhanov was made in Pugachev a few days ago near the Zolotaya Bochka cafe. Bystanders found the bleeding boy and called an ambulance. Ruslan Marzhanov died in hospital from numerous stab wounds, never regaining consciousness.

    After that, a mass brawl took place on one of the city streets with natives of Chechnya, who, according to unofficial data, stood up for their comrade detained on suspicion of the murder of Ruslan Marzhanov.

    Officials of the Ministry of Internal Affairs denied the fact of a brawl, but a day later a riot broke out in the city.

    About 600 people took to the central square in an attempt to publicize the incident. At the moment, police officers are working on the spot, trying to prevent riots.
  • Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 9 July 2013 08: 12 New
    37
    Notice a young Chechen came to the CAFE GOLDEN Keg with a scalpel - that is, HE ADVISED IN ADVANCE TO USE IT.

    Honestly, Chechens are associated with potential bandits in my life - when they see a Russian person, their youth do not miss the opportunity to humiliate him (a demonstration of base instincts by these people only humiliates the CHECHEN PEOPLE and creates a negative opinion about him).

    Kadyrov should do more to educate his young thugs.
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 9 July 2013 08: 16 New
      16
      What is such a pop and parish. Conclusions on the face.
    2. erased
      erased 9 July 2013 08: 18 New
      12
      Kadyrov should do more to educate his young thugs.

      He is busy with education. We see the results. Kadyrov’s new army will soon be ready for action throughout Russia, and then blood will flow. Everything is as planned.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 July 2013 09: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: erased
        Kadyrov’s new army will soon be ready for action throughout Russia, and then blood will flow. Everything is as planned.

        And where is this army? At least you don’t write crap, just to blurt out.
        1. Manager
          Manager 9 July 2013 11: 02 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And where is this army?

          Romanovich, hello!
          There is truth in her words. Look how many of them came. There are already more of them than indigenous people. Do you really think that if they are given a command from the top "take the country and live as masters" they will not do it. Army doesn't always look "Classic"
      2. KILLAvolt
        KILLAvolt 9 July 2013 09: 24 New
        0
        ... blood will flow ... Maybe it will, but not Slavs !!! Do not wake famously, while quiet, this is an appeal to everyone !!! am
        1. Manager
          Manager 9 July 2013 11: 03 New
          -1
          Quote: KILLAvolt
          ... blood will flow ... Maybe it will, but not Slavs !!! Do not wake famously, while quiet, this is an appeal to everyone !!!


          Already not all Slavs are like that. 50% is either drunks or those that do not get out of the computer monitor ....
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 13 New
            +1
            Why not 99%
    3. evgenii67
      evgenii67 9 July 2013 08: 22 New
      +5
      Hello everyone! It's a pity for the guy, it's just some kind of p..ts, it shouldn't be like that, we're not at war. Here are Caucasians + those who "serve" the law - lawyers, prosecutors, judges and ordinary police officers who keep order, have taught locals in almost all regions not to like Caucasians for their behavior and not to trust lawyers, prosecutors, judges and ordinary policemen for that much is forgiven to Caucasians.
  • BARKAS
    BARKAS 9 July 2013 08: 16 New
    21
    The information about what is happening in Pugachev is too contradictory, but simply because of the murder such unrest will not occur most likely this was the last straw that overwhelmed the patience of people, it seems the Chechens there began to establish their rules for a long time with the complete connivance of the authorities!
  • Muxauk
    Muxauk 9 July 2013 08: 18 New
    +2
    you don’t have to cut everyone out, you need a tough state policy, or the people will soon do everything themselves. all back to Chechnya, there they will not let them get too impudent
  • My address
    My address 9 July 2013 08: 21 New
    +8
    I read an article by M. Delyagin about Belgorod "In normal Russia" in the Free Press. There are no such problems, just the authorities are doing their job. It is possible that it is embellished, but it is described authentically. It turns out that many complex problems can be solved simply - everyone does their own thing.

    And we forgot that the authorities are our servants and should work for us. And they are crazy about impunity.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 9 July 2013 08: 21 New
    13
    This is to be expected. Young natives of the Caucasus have no sense of self-preservation at all, and they are ready to test the patience of the local population again and again. And their older compatriots, instead of restraining their youth, begin "congresses of the peoples of Russia" to gather and demand from the state "the fight against xenophobia."
    Therefore, as I think, this is not the last case of this kind.
    1. Bronis
      Bronis 9 July 2013 09: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: Spade
      Therefore, as I think, this is not the last case of this kind

      And all this is just beginning. Social tension is increasing. For certain circles, then it only remains to direct the anger in the right direction ... And blaze big ...
      Caucasians do not behave as they want, but as they allow. And corruption only contributes to this.
      The incident was right next to the Dynamo shooting gallery. 12-13 years have passed. a couple of Caucasians didn’t share something with the Russian (I don’t remember what). They yelled, fled, and returned back with 5 children of the mountains. The battle was not only because the guys came out of the shooting range ... with small things. And a couple of sharpenings against four small caliber ones - not really ...
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 9 July 2013 09: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Bronis
        Caucasians do not behave as they want, but as they allow. And corruption only contributes to this.

        They don’t understand that you can buy an official, but you can’t buy a crowd?
        1. Bronis
          Bronis 9 July 2013 10: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          They don’t understand that you can buy an official, but you can’t buy a crowd?
          Those who cut people with a scalpel or rams in the middle of Moscow think little. The blood is hot. Often, even their elders (among them there are quite adequate, worthy people) cannot reason them.
          But about the crowd ... it can be provoked and organized. It is not difficult if there is money, a small group of trained people and social stress. You yourself have seen everything recently ... righteous anger can always be used
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Bronis
            Those who cut people with a scalpel or rams in the middle of Moscow think little. The blood is hot.

            And their older tribesmen? After all, I know very many, very adequate men. And then some collective blindness attacked them.

            Quote: Bronis
            Often, even their elders (among them there are quite adequate, worthy people) cannot reason them.

            Here you are absolutely wrong.

            Quote: Bronis
            But about the crowd ... it can be provoked and organized. It is not difficult if there is money, a small group of trained people and social stress. You yourself have seen everything recently ... righteous anger can always be used

            A reasonable question arises: is our power adequate?
            1. Bronis
              Bronis 9 July 2013 11: 39 New
              +2
              Power is not something indirect, but a very specific system based on the principle of hierarchy and consisting of people. An official is not a separate biological species ... So the adequacy of power lies in the adequacy of people and the general degree of adequacy of society. The world has gone mad, the rest is the consequences.
              Quote: Spade
              Often, even their elders (among them there are quite adequate, worthy people) cannot reason them.
              Here you are absolutely wrong.
              Personally, I know two veterans of the Second World War worthy grandfathers. Ingush and Dagestan. One after the war he taught, the other on the collective farm all his life ... one in the deportation after the war lived a victorious warrior. But nothing, no malice. They are extremely negative to those antics. Reason as they can authority. youth eyes down, they say yes, I'm sorry. and then back. In general, the traditional way of life is preserved, but also it began to collapse ...
              The problem is that our "party policy" has changed. We felt permissiveness. so they are satisfied ... well, and from behind the hill they actively helped.
              Well, the feeling of fraternity - screwed up, but mine.
  • Yura
    Yura 9 July 2013 08: 25 New
    +3
    Well, until calm, sat out. The prosecutor's office, court, administration to the answer. And then it’s like that, murder after murder and no one is punished, it smells, no, it stinks of corruption and bribery from all this.
  • Cyril7377
    Cyril7377 9 July 2013 08: 26 New
    +8
    Yesterday, I read a lot of information on this event on the Internet, and official media sources, including TV, as always keep silent about the problem, saying that there is no such problem in our DATE Corovstvo, everything is fine with us.
    1. consul
      consul 9 July 2013 18: 31 New
      0
      http://vk.com/vkpugachev -группа пугачевцев в контакте,там жители города отписываются с фото
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 9 July 2013 08: 26 New
    +4
    Good! If a minor has a scalpel (not even a knife), this is a complete finish! Is it time to start acting in this direction very actively and explain to hot "surgeons", or were only skins effective? It's time to stop this knife chaos, otherwise it will blaze on a much larger scale! People are not rams !!
  • dizelniy
    dizelniy 9 July 2013 08: 26 New
    +2
    Our government generously pays for everything with Russian lives, including for the civilian world, maybe enough? It's time to remind them all of this in the next election, just do not forget.
  • ed1968
    ed1968 9 July 2013 08: 27 New
    +2
    eye for eye tooth for tooth Caucasian monkeys angry they don’t even imagine how terrible and merciless the Russian riot is. the only thing that surprises the victim was the former paratrooper belay really the guy who served the landing could not stuff the scalpel in the ass with the beast? my condolences to the relatives of the deceased
    1. Cyril7377
      Cyril7377 9 July 2013 08: 32 New
      +5
      In one of the articles yesterday I read that "No. Beast" acted out of slyness, some of the witnesses saw the conflict, it is quite possible that he hit from behind hit the artery and therefore the guy died so quickly .... By the way, a friend's son served in a special forces brigade in Tambov, he said that hand-to-hand combat was not taught, they say it provokes hazing ...
      1. A-50
        A-50 9 July 2013 09: 11 New
        +4
        Quote: Cyril7377
        By the way, my friend’s son served in a special forces brigade in Tambov, he said that they didn’t teach hand-to-hand combat, that he provokes unregulated relationships ...

        I heard the same thing from the tof (lackey) on Fr. Russian - no hand-to-hand training, diving is practically not taught. Yes, and what to teach in a year.
      2. RA77
        RA77 9 July 2013 09: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Cyril7377
        it is possible that the hit from behind got into the artery and therefore the guy died so quickly

        What kind of nonsense are you talking about? It is written, "multiple stab-cut wounds of the chest", from which "the victim died in a medical institution."

        Quote: Cyril7377
        He said that they didn’t teach hand-to-hand combat, saying that he provokes erratic relationships

        If you don’t know, you’d better just shut up, please. I beg you very much!
    2. Nevsky
      Nevsky 9 July 2013 08: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: ed1968
      eye for eye tooth for tooth Caucasian monkeys angry they don’t even imagine how terrible and merciless the Russian riot is. the only thing that surprises the victim was the former paratrooper belay really the guy who served the landing could not stuff the scalpel in the ass with the beast? my condolences to the relatives of the deceased
      .

      He beat that kid. He was simply cold-blooded and unexpectedly abrupt movement ... in general google ... insulting ...
  • mogus
    mogus 9 July 2013 08: 29 New
    +2
    can not be trained
    Put the commas yourself ...
    1. mogus
      mogus 9 July 2013 08: 47 New
      +4
      not the first time the killer tried
      1. master_rem
        master_rem 9 July 2013 09: 55 New
        0
        Instead of "evicting" the brain perceives "lynching" ........
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 9 July 2013 11: 21 New
        +7
        And well done man, who splashed water in the bureaucrat's face.
        1. mogus
          mogus 9 July 2013 11: 42 New
          +2
          if in the future they will also not notice ... maybe it will reach LVZH ...
        2. MG42
          MG42 9 July 2013 21: 54 New
          +1
          But the sense, he just freshened up in the heat ..
      3. MG42
        MG42 9 July 2013 21: 42 New
        +2
        Let's add a video from the scene >>>
  • Nikolski1973
    Nikolski1973 9 July 2013 08: 30 New
    +8
    To cut the forest with a jigsaw on Kalyma - although I mean, this is inciting ethnic hatred. And this podoka, even if convicted, will be sent to the penitentiary complex of Chechnya where he will be released on parole in a week, as has been done more than once. The gentlemen from the government will wait for the lynching of the coves.
  • dizelniy
    dizelniy 9 July 2013 08: 30 New
    +4
    Quote: Jura

    Yura


    Today, 08: 25

    ↓ New


    Well, until calm, sat out. The prosecutor's office, court, administration to the answer

    The prosecutor's office is busy in the casino. The deputy prosecutor of the Moscow region was released from the prison, probably his and his fellows took bail.
  • 12061973
    12061973 9 July 2013 08: 31 New
    19
    which is typical of the Russians with the demand to evict the Chechens, the local Tatars joined, apparently they got everyone, in spite of Islam, a hole from the donut, and not the caliphate.
    1. Yuriwhite
      Yuriwhite 9 July 2013 08: 40 New
      +8
      Ruslan Mozhaev, as it were, is most likely a Tatar. So they joined. And before, it means they did not see or hear anything.
      1. RA77
        RA77 9 July 2013 09: 38 New
        +3
        And who is Ruslan Mozhaev? If you are talking about who you killed, then his name was Ruslan Marzhanov.
        1. Yuriwhite
          Yuriwhite 9 July 2013 11: 08 New
          +3
          Wrong with a surname. But the essence is the same - the surname is clearly not Russian but Tatar.
  • Yuriwhite
    Yuriwhite 9 July 2013 08: 35 New
    23
    For some reason I think that not one Chechen killed the paratrooper from here and the excitement. And as always they hang noodles for us. And the main reason is that the Russians are generally inert or even cowardly up to a certain point - how many times did he make sure of this in the SA when he fought with Caucasians and no one came to the rescue and in civilian life when one made a remark to the southern guests and the rest sat and did it seems that nothing is happening, but the southern guests immediately formed a crowd. That is why so? Is my hut on the edge? Why are we seeing rudeness happening lawlessness and stuff pass by ?? This is where ALL of our troubles come from. Of course, when we begin to exterminate, we show, but before that, what? That cut one by one.
  • DikRoss
    DikRoss 9 July 2013 08: 36 New
    +3
    The fact that the authorities do not know (do not want) and do not understand how to solve urgent international problems, improve the national well-being of Russians is a fact. But in such situations, I always have the question: What if a Russian killed a Russian? Who would be to blame? Who needs to be pulled up? Would there be the same resonance?
    People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished
    Who works in the investigative committee? At the prosecutor’s office? Ships?
    Chechens?
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 9 July 2013 08: 37 New
    -17
    ethnic hatred again kindled !!
    Why no one resents this crime!
    *** - First, I beat him. Then he went for a knife and an ax ... And cut off his head, - a video of this confession went around all the TV channels and the Internet. A young man named Nikita tells how in a drunken stupor he killed a man. On the night of June 24, in the courtyard of the house, he and four other friends were drinking, celebrating graduation. The next morning, a headless body was found nearby. Bloody traces led right into Nikita's apartment. A guy waking up in a hangover delirium did not begin to unlock. It turned out that he not only chopped off the head of a still living person, but took off the scalp, cut off his ears, nose, gouged out his eyes ... He even kicked her on the ground, imitating football feints. Friends did not stop the scumbag ... They stunnedly watched the execution, and then fled. At least now they say so. ***
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26101/2998243/?cp=2

    Because the Russian killers ??
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 July 2013 08: 57 New
      0
      Do you really think this all happened because of one murder?
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 07 New
        -10
        Quote: Spade
        Do you really think this all happened because of one murder?

        So this is not the first time !!
        If a Russian is killed, and a newcomer killer starts here at everyone * waking up * self-awareness and calls for revenge!
        If the killer killed the newcomer or the homeless, then everything is fine, it's just * a scumbag * has nothing to do with Russians as a nationality!
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 9 July 2013 09: 14 New
          0
          To rephrase the question: Do you think this is all due to several murders?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 24 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            To rephrase the question: Do you think this is all due to several murders?

            I wrote Sani Romanov above that I think about it !!
            You must admit that if on my link the name of the offender was not Nikita, but Alibek, for example, there would be no limit to the outrage of our users!
            We are all adults and we know perfectly well that all nations have criminals and people worthy of respect!
            Most recently, in Moscow, a young native of Dagestan saved two drowning girls, unable to swim himself, and drowned !!
            He was a gastrobiter !!
            Why are worthy ones quickly forgotten ???
            http://topwar.ru/30272-geroy-nashego-vremeni-zhitel-dagestana-cenoy-svoey-zhizni


            -spas-dvuh-shkolnic.html # comment-id-1303985



            That is how many times the children of officials, officials themselves or mozhory escaped punishment by committing serious crimes, thanks to friends and status Russians of ethnicity !! ??
            Someone shouted to their families and friends, to evict ??
            That is, the question here is not impunity, but instilling in people hatred of a certain segment of the population!

            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 9 July 2013 09: 40 New
              +9
              You do not quite realize what is happening in Russia. People from the Caucasus can rely on the loyalty of the authorities, you can buy officials and law enforcement officers. But you cannot buy a crowd, and you should not count on its loyalty. And the killings are just an excuse, not a cause. The reason is the inappropriate behavior of young people from the Caucasus.
              And not only they will suffer. Everyone will suffer. The crowd will not particularly sort.

              Quote: Yarbay
              Why are worthy ones quickly forgotten ???

              They are lost against the unworthy.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 59 New
                -3
                Quote: Spade
                . People from the Caucasus can rely on the loyalty of the authorities, you can buy officials and law enforcement officers.

                But the authorities are RUSSIAN !!
                YOU CHOSEN THEM !!
                Until you make them work and serve under the LAW, nothing will CHANGE!
                Drive out the Chechens, the gypsies will come, the French will come to them, the Indians will kill them!
                Quote: Spade
                You do not quite realize what is happening in Russia

                Imagine!
                1. baltika-18
                  baltika-18 9 July 2013 11: 33 New
                  +8
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  But the authorities are RUSSIAN !!
                  YOU CHOSEN THEM !!

                  I did not select them.
                  I did not vote for the current w.od.
                2. demonuga
                  demonuga 9 July 2013 14: 01 New
                  0
                  Nobody ever chooses them. They come to power with the help of money, connections and making promises to "necessary" people to help.
                  Any nation has scumbags and criminals, but among the Caucasians there are too many of them, and the people so vigorously perceive this.
              2. survivor
                survivor 9 July 2013 11: 03 New
                +8
                good time of the day. I am, for example, a Caucasian. to be honest, I never received any favors from the police, but I was not noticed in anything like that. Alibek is right, when the Russians themselves create limitlessness, there is no fuss. But why? Yes, because the hype is needed precisely in order to create an "internal enemy". when a Russian guy was killed in Rostov, some of the Caucasians organized a whole march, and when I, the manager of the recreation center, at that time, for the performance of my not mediocre duties, were beaten into the trash by four quite Russian guys (you see, to continue the banquet there was no money and climbed into the building to remove the water heater, and I, a black-ass chock, drove them POLITELY from the building and from the territory of the base), no one sniffed. The district police officer even tried to frighten and did not want to hear about the statement. Is this an isolated fact, or? after I drove them out, they came to my house and started a fight. A guard, a young fellow villager, instead of helping me to get them out, ran around them, "kneading me with their feet" and asked them to stop. I didn’t start a showdown. I didn’t invite my fellow countrymen to help me. I really didn’t want what would happen later, whatever mother was shouting that the animals had beaten innocent Russian guys. EXACTLY FOR THAT THEY BEATED THAT THEY ARE DE RUSSIAN !!! and not because the drunks staged a brawl and beating !!!. no one knows HOW and WHAT is actually happening. this is exactly what no one will say!
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 16 New
                  +5
                  Deal with your youth. I lived in Vladik for a long time, I know how more mature tribesmen can influence them. If you do not, then everything will only get worse and worse.
                  1. MVS
                    MVS 9 July 2013 11: 32 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Spade
                    Deal with your youth. I lived in Vladik for a long time, I know how more mature tribesmen can influence them. If you do not, then everything will only get worse and worse.

                    I completely agree with every word. For some reason, in the Caucasus, it is in terms of "interethnic incidents" that everything is quieter than in Central Russia.
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 41 New
                      0
                      I remember a young lieutenant came and came to me as a platoon. I had to look for him an apartment. I went to a friend, agreed. He talked with the local punks, and the lieutenant had absolutely no problems.
              3. smersh70
                smersh70 9 July 2013 23: 25 New
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                People from the Caucasus can count on the loyalty of the authorities,


                Toaishch Lopatov! Why are you boiling ... you didn’t kill a Russian ... one Russian killed another ..... better blame your health care, the surgeon was not there ... and the nurse refused to help the wounded ...... You as in the beginning of the 20th century, then Jews were to blame for everything ... and now Caucasians ..... look at the root .... some take away the causes of troubles and discontent of the country's population ... and look for the guilty not there ... ..
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 9 July 2013 23: 34 New
                  +2
                  Quote: smersh70
                  ..better blame your health care, the surgeon was not there ... and the nurse refused to help the wounded ....

                  In principle, the situation is the same as with Mirzaev’s victim, Agafonov, after bruising, he hit his head and the doctors didn’t help him for several hours in the hospital !!
                  Again indifference !!!
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 9 July 2013 23: 47 New
                    0
                    I’ll tear the template for you now, but I believe that Mirzaev was right. So there is nothing to attach it to this topic.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 10 July 2013 00: 09 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Spade
                      I’ll tear the template for you now, but I believe that Mirzaev was right. So there is nothing to attach it to this topic.

                      I also think that he was right !!
                      But thousands of Russians demanded to break it, just because he was Caucasian !!
                      And if, on the contrary, everyone would consider that Russian is right, just as YOU!
                      That’s why I say that the atmosphere is being escalated and hatred is being sown !! In your society there is already a certain layer of people who live by this !!
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 10 July 2013 00: 17 New
                        0
                        He did the right thing, put the presumptuous in place. He acted in accordance with our civilizational code, he protected the girl from the freak, giving him in the face. I didn’t stab him, but simply gave him in the face.
                        Well, what happened next, this major was worth not hanging around in night clubs, but attending the gym. I wouldn’t have accumulated so sharply, and would not have broken my skull.
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 10 July 2013 00: 33 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Spade
                        He did the right thing

                        Lopatov auuuu))))
                        I'm writing about something else !!
                        please read again what you answered and if possible answer exactly what I wrote !!
                        If there is nothing to say, I will understand you!
              4. Lopatov
                Lopatov 9 July 2013 23: 40 New
                0
                And they are also Tatars. Their. In Chechnya, a third of the battery was Tatars.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 9 July 2013 23: 47 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  And the Tatars are also ours

                  I didn’t hear the answer to the shovels, why the people in Ryazan didn’t take to the streets and did not demand that the relatives of those frostbitten teenagers who had been knocked over by a student be evicted ???
                  Why doesn’t anyone resent the indifference of passers-by and do not demand their eviction ?? Is this the first time ???
                  Why are those who should help the wounded and not help not punished, do not even require their dismissal ??
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 9 July 2013 23: 58 New
                    0
                    People have not reached the limit. The fact is that Ruslan Marzhanov is already the third person killed by Chechens in Pugachev. It is difficult to rock our people, but these few hundred people succeeded.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 10 July 2013 00: 04 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      The fact is that Ruslan Marzhanov is already the third person killed by Chechens in Pugachev.

                      Shovels are not a fact! Rumors are quite possible !!
                      Quote: Spade
                      People have not reached the limit

                      How do you know how many people were killed in Ryazan ?? How many teenagers attacked people !! ??
                      I remember the broadcast about this crime and many there said that these teenagers who killed a student have been terrorizing everyone in that area for a long time!
                      Quote: Spade
                      It is difficult to rock our people, but these few hundred people succeeded.
                      On the contrary, it’s worth flickering in some kind of crime to the Caucasians that everyone is outraged by all Caucasians, even without going into details))))
                    2. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 10 July 2013 00: 22 New
                      +1
                      It is a fact. murders in 2010 and 2011. In 2010, one of the twin brothers, Nikolai Veshnyakov, was stabbed to death. 5 knife, the killer - Beslan Mudaev. At the same time, there are only a few hundred Chechens in the city of forty thousand.
                    3. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 10 July 2013 00: 31 New
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      It is a fact. murders in 2010 and 2011. In 2010, one of the twin brothers, Nikolai Veshnyakov, was stabbed to death. 5 knife, the killer - Beslan Mudaev. At the same time, there are only a few hundred Chechens in the city of forty thousand.

                      killers planted ???
                      And how many for three years Russian Russians killed there is infa ??
                      and who killed the third case?
                      A few hundred is not enough?))))))
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 9 July 2013 11: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: Yarbay
        Why are worthy ones quickly forgotten ???

        Because there are one in a hundred, if not more than a hundred.
        The reason is simple, not the best part of the society of the former republics of the Union is coming to us. Normal and well-built at home.
        And the fact that there will be a purge in the country I have little doubt that if Putin does not, the one who will be after him will do it. I will take part with pleasure.
        The more inaction of power, the less time Vova has, here the dependence is direct.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 12: 30 New
          0
          Quote: baltika-18
          Because there are one in a hundred, if not more than a hundred.

          Yes, I can’t believe it!
          It can’t be!
          though....
        2. dmb
          dmb 9 July 2013 14: 01 New
          +3
          Tell Nikolay, why during such discussions a certain part of members of the forum quickly moves to the "former republics". We are talking about OUR CITIZENS, in Pugachev, and the migrants have nothing to do with it. By the way, don't the Ukrainian and Moldovan migrants who "take" jobs from our citizens bother you? Or are there no "unworthy" among them, but only the worthy come to us? There are thugs on the site with whom it is pointless to enter into a discussion on these issues, but you didn’t seem to belong to them. And also ask yourself two questions. Why in the USSR the bribe taker was punished much harsher than the bribe giver, and what is the predominantly nationality of the "humanists" who absolve the representatives of the Caucasus who committed crimes from responsibility? I can assure you that their humanism also extends to any wealthy Russian.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 9 July 2013 14: 39 New
            0
            Quote: dmb
            Tell Nikolay, why during such discussions a certain part of members of the forum quickly moves to the "former republics".

            This applies not only to the republics, but also to our Caucasian regions. I am not at all going to revenge everyone under one comb, but the fact that they are leaving to the original Russian regions is not the best since the Soviet era.
            Quote: dmb
            By the way, don't the Ukrainian and Moldovan migrants who "take" places from our citizens bother you?

            They are embarrassed, but much less. The mentality is different, but they themselves come much less.
            Quote: dmb
            what is the predominantly nationality of the "humanists" who release those who committed crimes

            And they have one nationality, Dmitry, monetary.
            PS When I studied at the institute, in Soviet times, we still lived in unison with the Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, we still maintain relations. But neither they nor we could get along with the Chechens, there were skirmishes. Why did I ....
            May the Almighty made a mistake with them, and now he is giving signs, saying that it is time to correct the mistake.
            1. dmb
              dmb 9 July 2013 15: 30 New
              +5
              Don't involve the Lord in this matter. Everything is much simpler. The level of culture and tradition. As you understand, I have never divided people into good and bad by ethnicity, but the level of culture cannot be dumped. Evenks, Chukchi, Khanty, they do not change the traditional way of life, and despite all their peacefulness, you are unlikely to like it if someone of them, having arrived in Ryazan or Samara, will slaughter deer on the square and drink fresh blood. And for them it is usual, and they will not understand when you will drive them. Do you think that the level of culture of the brave Vainakh, even if he drives a Bentley and studies at MGIMO, is much higher? He used to behave like that in his aul with foreigners. The ways out of this situation are known: the stick and the carrot. When a Chechen studies at MGIMO not because he is the nephew of the main bandit, but because he is talented, if at the same time he knows that in case of violation of generally accepted norms, he will get in the head not because he is a Chechen, but because they violated, then he will behave accordingly. This is naturally not a single year's work. In the USSR, this took decades, but now we will have to start all over again, naturally after we return to the socialist path of development. So that we return there as late as possible, the current "fathers of the nation" and gradually incite ethnic strife.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 10 July 2013 00: 50 New
                0
                Quote: dmb
                Don't involve the Lord in this matter. Everything is much simpler. The level of culture and tradition. As you understand, I have never divided people into good and bad by ethnicity, but the level of culture cannot be dumped. Evenks, Chukchi, Khanty, they do not change the traditional way of life, and despite all their peacefulness, you are unlikely to like it if someone of them, having arrived in Ryazan or Samara, will slaughter deer on the square and drink fresh blood. And for them it is usual, and they will not understand when you will drive them. Do you think that the level of culture of the brave Vainakh, even if he drives a Bentley and studies at MGIMO, is much higher? He used to behave like that in his aul with foreigners. The ways out of this situation are known: the stick and the carrot. When a Chechen studies at MGIMO not because he is the nephew of the main bandit, but because he is talented, if at the same time he knows that in case of violation of generally accepted norms, he will get in the head not because he is a Chechen, but because they violated, then he will behave accordingly. This is naturally not a single year's work. In the USSR, this took decades, but now we will have to start all over again, naturally after we return to the socialist path of development. So that we return there as late as possible, the current "fathers of the nation" and gradually incite ethnic strife.

                You wrote everything right!
                I fully support!
  • Hort
    Hort 9 July 2013 09: 33 New
    +3
    it's simple: Russian scumbag planted in 100% of cases.
    1. piterkras
      piterkras 9 July 2013 12: 21 New
      +1
      Well, the previous Caucasian killer was put in Pugachevo for 10 years.
  • mogus
    mogus 9 July 2013 10: 08 New
    +8
    Alibek, you know Russia well enough and how we get along with all peoples. For hundreds of years of coexistence, everyone has become accustomed to each other. We did not exterminate nations on racial lines, as the United States did. So why are there so many claims to the North Caucasus? Are we Slavs to blame, or are they? Well, we have never had and do not have such "graters" with anyone as with the Caucasus. What will become of me if I behave in the Caucasus, the same way they behave in my country? And how much we tolerate them ... They do not accept the rules of my country and are trying to impose their own.
    You give an example of Russian murder of Russian - for us this is a crime. For them - a way of approval.
    1. sumcream56
      sumcream56 9 July 2013 13: 52 New
      +1
      All this public, which is atrocious in Russia in the Caucasus, is the king of life. Dad is the prosecutor, uncle is the chief of police. And a little against the action movie. It’s good if one is killed, but the whole family can. Arriving in Russia, feeling their support, they behave arrogantly. The Cossacks kept the Caucasus in check. So the Terek and Kuban Cossacks were sent to the Soviet Union three times for dispersal (the third time, however, they themselves were to blame, there was nothing for Hitler to serve!). That is, the Cossacks destroyed 70% physically, 95% morally. Chechens and Ingush live on the lands of Terek Cossacks. And the vampire who tried the blood will not stop. And as for the memory of the people, many people remember how the Soviet government drowned in blood a riot in Grozny against the lawlessness of Chechens in 1958, in 1950 in Krasnodar, in 1962 in Novocherkassk.
  • Hleb
    Hleb 10 July 2013 02: 31 New
    +1
    eka Alibek red piled on)) that would be minusers with such solidarity, on the street Caucasians will respond to rudeness, there would be no price!
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 10 July 2013 18: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Gleb
      eka Alibek red piled on)) that would be minusers with such solidarity, on the street Caucasians will respond to rudeness, there would be no price!

      That's right !!
      Totally agree!
      I will add that a little less indifference !!
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 9 July 2013 08: 42 New
    13
    Russian peasant is very difficult to stir up and bring to white heat. But if it succeeded, then that’s all. put out the light and drain the water. Then shreds in the back streets will fly. They are Arabs like gunpowder - a small spark - and a zilch bright, but short. But the Russians, like saltpeter, can lie for years and there will be nothing but good. But if there is a good detonator, then it will blow everything into the trash.
  • 12061973
    12061973 9 July 2013 08: 43 New
    +4
    Adat, ayah, Sunnah are used as a method of literature in the upbringing of Chechens, and pedagogy as a science has been thrown out, work westward, and yet labor has been made of a monkey from a man.
  • yury-xnumx
    yury-xnumx 9 July 2013 08: 53 New
    22
    In the 90-early 00-years, the Russian state forced citizens to die in the name of regaining their control over Chechnya. As a result, Russia now controls Chechnya even less than then. Now the Chechen authorities are killing anyone they want right in the center of Moscow (Baysarova, Yamadayev, Budanov, etc.). However, the state fought with Dudaev and Maskhadov, and Kadyrov pays a multibillion-dollar tribute. Why? Because Kadyrov periodically utters certain sacred loyal words and participates in ceremonies in the Kremlin. That is, it helps to imitate the integrity of the state. The main problem is caused by the fact that the federal leadership actually lost the second Chechen war. Under the guise of victory, a pact was signed with Kadyrov, and the money that goes to Chechnya today can be considered as an indemnity paid for the loss of the war by Russia
    1. tomas.09
      tomas.09 9 July 2013 08: 58 New
      +7
      So they see this money as tribute or indemnity. Accordingly, they behave in Russia, as in the conquered territories.
      1. ed1968
        ed1968 9 July 2013 09: 13 New
        +4
        then it’s time to sharpen Russian axes at night
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 10: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: yury-1972

      yury-xnumx


      Today, 08: 53




      In the 90s - early 00s, the Russian state forced citizens to die in the name of regaining their control over Chechnya. As a result, Russia now controls Chechnya even less than then. Now the Chechen authorities are killing who they want right in the center of Moscow

      can you tell me what it was necessary to do
    3. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 9 July 2013 10: 49 New
      +3
      The essence of the settlement of the conflict in Chechnya was its Chechenization, destroying the other with one hand so that the Russian boys would not die, the task is carried out successfully, and after recovering the money, of course, they steal and control should be stronger, and the fox Kadyrov who has quickly gone over to the side federal cent, when the smell of fried was already quite.
    4. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 18: 20 New
      +2
      There is a simple secret if Chechnya is ruled not by a "loyal" Chechen, then it will continue to "shake" like in the dashing 90s, who does not have "authority" there in flight like plywood over Paris, the people are wayward ... and "loyalty" costs money..
  • rugor
    rugor 9 July 2013 08: 56 New
    +5
    God forbid we see a Russian rebellion, meaningless and merciless
  • doctor3006
    doctor3006 9 July 2013 08: 59 New
    10
    But why will this animal not be, even if they condemn, which is unlikely. They will immediately send to Chechnya to sit, where they will immediately release him, and then UDO will issue it retroactively. And he will walk there as a hero, and take pictures with Kadyrov, as was the case recently with the next killer of a Russian guy. This is the targeted genocide of the state-forming Russian people by the current occupation authorities.
  • A-50
    A-50 9 July 2013 09: 03 New
    +8
    People are tired of these outrages. No one is punished

    Quote: Yarbay
    ethnic hatred again kindled !!


    The deaf and already massive "discontent" of the people is being drained through the prepared "national outlet." But in my opinion, everything is not so easy to drain - the neck is narrow.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 July 2013 09: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: A-50
      There is a drain of the deaf and already massive "discontent" of the people through the prepared "national outlet".

      Do you think that Caucasian youth is impudent in accordance with direct instructions from the Kremlin?
      1. A-50
        A-50 9 July 2013 13: 19 New
        +4
        It would be very simple to attribute everything that is happening now in Russia to "direct instructions from the Kremlin." The one who parasitizes in the Kremlin is engaged in gesheft. This public is not interested in riots. Do not think of it as a conspiracy theorist - but the threads of control of the performance are clearly not held by the claws of a galley crab. Rough - ring, comrade.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 23: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: A-50
          Do not take it as a conspiracy theorist - but the performance control threads are clearly not held by the galley crab claws

          I agree!!
  • Nasty
    Nasty 9 July 2013 09: 06 New
    +4
    Vote for United Russia
  • Hort
    Hort 9 July 2013 09: 23 New
    +5
    And the fact that this tragedy caused a resonance among the population of Pugachev, among Ruslan's fellow countrymen, I can understand and share their pain, "- his statement is quoted on the official website of the government of the Saratov region.
    The head of the region called on the townspeople "not to give vent to emotions and feelings." "We know what irreversible consequences lynching, escalating the situation, speculation on a national theme can lead to. The historical experience of our multinational country does not allow us to forget about this and calm down," Radaev stressed.
    And NO WORDS that the guilty person will somehow be punished!
    And lynching on nat. he’s afraid of the soil apparently because he himself will be raised to the pitchfork
  • Vasily T.
    Vasily T. 9 July 2013 09: 25 New
    +1

    Message PU from the Airborne
    http://video.yandex.ru/search?where=all&text=%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%20%D0%BF%D1%83%D
    1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&p=3&filmId=Ps21g9Uj8gE
  • anarh
    anarh 9 July 2013 09: 31 New
    12
    Quote: mogus
    not the first time the killer tried

    Quote from the post to the video in the Tube:
    “The elder brother is not even mentioned anywhere, in no media; he was generally hidden. A younger brother, a Chechen, was nearby when the eldest fought. The elder began to lose, the younger attacked Ruslan from the back and inflicted 7 stabs on him in the heart region and one in the face with a scalpel, ”the source said.

    According to him, none of the residents can say with certainty that the culprit of the incident is indeed detained.

    “Nobody saw him, not the fact that he was detained, maybe it's a duck,” said the young man.

    This is more like the truth.
    And from the media it turns out that the paratrooper had a fight with the kid.
    Call a spade a spade: Sneaky Chechen (a Chechen - because mom, dad and the diaspora indulged, which means guilt throughout the diaspora) killed the guy from the back.
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 9 July 2013 09: 56 New
      12
      It is very similar to the truth. In Grozny, during the Soviet period, one-on-one fights with the Chechens went on - if the Russian began to take over, the brothers immediately rushed to help. eyes, and it is such that our law enforcement officers and the entire administrative system are completely rotten and there is no need to expect protection from them, which means that we will have to defend ourselves and our loved ones by all available means (most likely illegal).
      1. survivor
        survivor 9 July 2013 11: 11 New
        +3
        and then in Rostov-on-Don they do not happen the same way? I saw and fought myself !!!
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 9 July 2013 23: 51 New
      0
      Quote: anarh
      “The elder brother is not even mentioned anywhere, in no media; he was generally hidden. A younger brother, a Chechen, was nearby when the eldest fought. The elder began to lose, the younger attacked Ruslan from the back and inflicted 7 stabs on him in the heart region and one in the face with a scalpel, ”the source said.

      Is not a fact!
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    1. ed1968
      ed1968 9 July 2013 09: 42 New
      +5
      you are the next whale winked
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 9 July 2013 09: 32 New
    +8
    Quote: Yarbay
    ethnic hatred again kindled !!
    Why no one resents this crime!
    *** - First, I beat him. Then he went for a knife and an ax ... And cut off his head, - a video of this confession went around all the TV channels and the Internet. A young man named Nikita tells how in a drunken stupor he killed a man. On the night of June 24, in the courtyard of the house, he and four other friends were drinking, celebrating graduation. The next morning, a headless body was found nearby. Bloody traces led right into Nikita's apartment. A guy waking up in a hangover delirium did not begin to unlock. It turned out that he not only chopped off the head of a still living person, but took off the scalp, cut off his ears, nose, gouged out his eyes ... He even kicked her on the ground, imitating football feints. Friends did not stop the scumbag ... They stunnedly watched the execution, and then fled. At least now they say so. ***
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26101/2998243/?cp=2

    Because the Russian killers ??

    Because you have to separate flies from cutlets. In the case of Chechens and Caucasians in particular, there are systematic violations of the law, disrespect for local traditions and the impunity provided by the authorities, sluggishly reacting to such confusion. Those who must defend the population and whom this population trusts do not respond to ethnic crimes properly and the locals would have been shoved into the jail for a long time, the Chechens still haven’t betrayed their bandits and will probably give bribes to the police. and such atrocities horrify, but this is from another opera.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 9 July 2013 09: 46 New
      +7
      Quote: EGORKA
      Because you have to separate flies from cutlets. In the case of the Chechen and Caucasians in particular, systematic violations of the law, disrespect for local traditions and impunity, which the authorities provide, are sluggishly reacting to such a situation

      You are all right!
      So the authorities are to blame for not punishing the CRIMINAL and allowing certain people to disregard the LAW !!
      I wrote my thoughts about it above!
      Let me give you an example, many Dagestanis and Chechens live in my country, they come a lot, but for 10 years I have not heard about a high-profile crime involving them with us! Their behavior here is no different from the behavior of others! They just know that no one will fuss! What will they plant if they vomit and for a long time!
      You have only one problem: NON-FULFILLMENT of their direct RESPONSIBILITIES by the guard authorities and government representatives at the proper level!
      1. Hort
        Hort 9 July 2013 13: 54 New
        0
        all right, the authorities are not fulfilling their duties of monitoring the rule of law and punishing criminals. But the question arises: why does the diaspora not help the authorities and do not give out these very offenders and criminals ?!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 9 July 2013 14: 32 New
          0
          Quote: hort
          why the diaspora does not help the authorities and does not betray these same offenders and criminals ?!

          and who are they ??
          what can they do?
          what do they do at all ???
          1. Hort
            Hort 10 July 2013 10: 30 New
            0
            well, they can at least not bribe the same cops with bribes, but extradite the offender, instead of hiding or sending him home.
            What they do with us, I have no idea. I think the same as in all other regions of Russia.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 10 July 2013 13: 52 New
              0
              Quote: hort
              well, they can at least not bribe the same cops with bribes, but extradite the offender, instead of hiding or sending him home.

              Yes, you do not believe in it, you are bred like rabbits!
              I will never believe that a stranger harnessed someone for all the more money !!!
              Nobody will give a bribe except the bribe giver and his family a penny !! I believe that this person under the terrible name of the diaspora can be an intermediary in giving a bribe and only !!
              So do not you believe in these nonsense!
              Yes, and you would have hinted to your police that they would not take bribes from anyone !!!
  • Hellriker
    Hellriker 9 July 2013 09: 40 New
    +5
    The ice has broken! More and more such cases happened when the Russian people did not let everything go on the brakes, but acted. I hope that Lynch will soon reach the courts, and even loopholes and immunity to laws will not help the monkeys.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 09: 55 New
      -5
      you should not be happy if this happens, it will be the beginning of the end.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 9 July 2013 10: 03 New
        -2
        The end of what?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 10: 33 New
          -1
          Countries, or do you think that civil war will benefit us?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 19 New
            +4
            What "civil war"? You are the scale of what can happen, you know?
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 13: 37 New
              +3
              just understand.

              HellrikerHopefully Lynch will come to the courts soon, and even loopholes and immunity to laws will not help the monkeys already.


              Do you think there will be no response ?!
              and if we take into account that we have places where the Russian population has less than half the consequences, it’s not difficult to calculate, it’s also not difficult to assume what will happen next.
              and then a howl will rise in international instances about the barbarism of the Russians and the oppression of the "indigenous" peoples.

              lynching should not be Caucasians or Asians, they must be judged by law, but a couple of other officials, precinct and FMSnikov.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 9 July 2013 13: 44 New
                -3
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Do you think there will be no response ?!

                Will not be. They want to eat.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 16: 41 New
                  +1
                  who wants to eat? !!!
                  no need to say stupid things !!!
                  in order to start a crowd you don’t have to raise a lot in five minutes
              2. Hellriker
                Hellriker 9 July 2013 15: 59 New
                0
                Even without retaliation, they kill and rape well. And as for judging by the law: Everyone knows how the law acts against Caucasians - nothing.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 16: 47 New
                  +1
                  You are from the category who are looking for a coin under the lamp, and not where they lost.

                  in order for cops to be law enforcement officers and officials to protect the law, they should ask them harshly and inevitably, because for the most part they are Russians, not Caucasians (if you do not have regions of original residence), or even less so Uzbeks with Tajiks.
                  then (no matter who broke the law) the offender will be punished - imprisoned, expelled.
      2. Ribwort
        Ribwort 9 July 2013 10: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        ... it will be the beginning of the end.

        Always the end of something meant the beginning of something new ...
        Why do you think that this new one will be worse than what we have now. Or are you comfortable with the current state of affairs?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 9 July 2013 10: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Ribwort
          You think that this new one will be worse than what we have now. Or are you comfortable with the current state of affairs?

          don’t distort (I’m happy about that), in 91 they also thought it would be better
          far from always a change is an improvement and a step forward is not always in the right direction
  • Muxauk
    Muxauk 9 July 2013 09: 41 New
    +1
    crimes are committed by all nationalities, but shine everywhere Caucasians, as if by spotlight. first, discontent in front of the TV begins to appear, and then, on occasion, in place
  • Nasty
    Nasty 9 July 2013 09: 50 New
    +6
    I have two amendments to the Criminal Code.
    1 In the case of a serious crime, a genetic examination of the offender is conducted. If genes that contribute to the manifestation of aggressiveness are detected, then the offender is neutered.
    2 With relapse - lobotomy. She will not diminish the mental abilities of these animals, but will calm
  • evgeni21
    evgeni21 9 July 2013 09: 51 New
    -1
    Yes, soon allah akbar will scream with us and cut everyone.
    1. survivor
      survivor 9 July 2013 11: 15 New
      +2
      if the authorities are silent, the police are inactive, the average man in the street does not come off the sofa and the beer does not come off, then everything can be shouted in the streets, not only "Allah Akbar".
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 9 July 2013 09: 55 New
    +2
    The authorities, busy with writing a "single textbook" on history, absolutely apparently missed its essence, which is that you can sit on the neck of the people for quite a long time and even take an ostrich position in relation to everything that happens in the country. But there was already one "master of the earth Russian ", who also played ostrich, but one fine day was surprised to find himself with a bullet in his head and filled with acid in a deep mine, I'm sure that lying there he was very surprised and shocked, how could this have happened? what to write about the "innocent murdered" can you look back at the historical situation? What did he do and what did not, why did this happen? Back in our time, the authorities also need to pull their heads out of the sand and look around, maybe they are doing something We are told on TV that "Nazism is impossible in Russia," they say it is multinational, then the authorities, without doing anything, put their heads back in the sand and come what may. Or maybe something needs to be done? First, punish the murderers according to the law if he is a murderer, a thief, if he is a thief, etc. Or the authorities are preparing the role of a lightning rod for the Caucasus, if it becomes really bad? When steam will escape from all the cracks of the steam boiler, they will tell us that the Caucasians are to blame for everything, bring them down!
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 9 July 2013 09: 59 New
    11
    I read some forum, they write that in Belarus, the local population and the police react quickly to such showdowns, all guests face the ground and in the jail, and the locals catch those who are trying to escape, so there is no such chaos there. A small country, where one nation lives compactly and reacts sensibly. Unlike us, the sick Russian nation, in which the immunity to such is very weak, we are sluggishly uniting internally for our protection and do not raise our children in the spirit of the fact that someone inside our country is an enemy to us, we naively believe in our we get the police and get what we get. Naturally, patience will sooner or later burst and we can go down in our evolutionary development and act by the methods of the same guests, just gathered, scored and the law, it would be sad and that this should not happen the authorities should act already yesterday .... but they are deaf to the moaning of the people, but what about them? similar crimes are committed only with the most unprotected sections of the population, no one climbs on the powers that be or the powerful, otherwise they would have sent them all home for a long time. So local authorities, officials and the police are guilty no less than the same Chechens, for example. and it would be time for the rest to unite and create groups to fight back, those who climb into a foreign monastery with their own charter, and do not live in peace.
  • Himalayan
    Himalayan 9 July 2013 10: 02 New
    16
    Quote: Nevsky
    he understands this and that is why he does not take radical measures, protects these freaks from the aggression of the Russian people. That is why the provocateurs shout that Putin is covering the chocks. The president understands everything. But you can’t. It's not possible now. It is too early. Tolerate ...

    God, what nonsense! There is nothing simpler than the wording - "The Law is One for All!" . There should not be any special "Proud" nations. The protection of fellow tribesmen of their criminals indicates precisely the racial background of what is happening, the formation of a caste, according to race, the chosen ones.
    We are reaping the fruits of Impunity of tribal societies. To which the law should apply, in the event they commit a crime, as well as to the organized crime group. That is, more rigidly.
    1. sashka
      sashka 9 July 2013 11: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Himalayan
      God, what nonsense! There is nothing simpler than the wording - "The Law is One for All!"

      In Russia ? We have no Laws .. Every local "prince" will set his own Conditions .. And the president is just words. "Poor fellow". I sincerely feel sorry for him .. The country of "thieves in law" .. In fact, there is nowhere further level ..
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 9 July 2013 10: 02 New
    +6
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    you should not be happy if this happens, it will be the beginning of the end.

    There will be no end, but there will be blood ....
  • Vasily T.
    Vasily T. 9 July 2013 10: 06 New
    17
    Look at him! He is not afraid of anything, because he knows that nothing will happen to him! Not a single head of the republic acts like that. He appears in the media more often than any governor. Therefore, Chechens and arrogant looking at him.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2013/844/hucg12.jpg
    1. Standard Oil
      Standard Oil 9 July 2013 10: 21 New
      +7
      On the face of obvious degenerative cretinism, a horseradish dancer.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 9 July 2013 10: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasily T.
      Look at him!

      When I saw the photo, I just remembered one interview of Kadyrov after the murder of his father, as it struck into memory!
      Asked about what changed in life after the death of his father, he listed some things and said that since then he has not DANCED and will never be able to DANCE again as a sign of grief!
      I respected his words then!
      Apparently money and power can spoil many and make a lot of forget!

      ***
      Last Saturday in Grozny chose the "Beauty of Chechnya." The winner was congratulated by Ramzan Kadyrov (pictured right). According to the Chechen tradition, beauties were showered with money ...

      - Not me, definitely. Everyone knows my friends. At least one confirmed that it’s me in the pictures, Ramzan? None! There is a place somewhere in the eatery. What, I have nothing to do, how to dance



      I don’t dance at all after the death of my father.







      - And the girls are strangers?

      - At all! I watched a lot ... There are no faces visible, only my hair there is like. Fake.

      - Who needs this?

      - Wahhabis need. It went when I raised a moral question.

      - About polygamy?

      - I didn’t raise it. They asked me: do not mind me, to have four wives? I said: support. Because in the republic there are 30 thousand more women than men.

      - They say you go to night clubs in Moscow?

      - Once upon a time. I did not know what it is. The guys told me: there will be a birthday, let's go, congratulations. And there, everything is completely different. I was there for about 15 minutes, then left so that no one would see. I'm not like that. I have no time for entertainment. [...]
      http://www.rospres.com/government/4247/
    3. piterkras
      piterkras 9 July 2013 13: 40 New
      0
      If he will dance to the Qatari, Saudi and American dollars, then Russia will pay the lives of its people.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 9 July 2013 14: 33 New
        0
        Quote: piterkras
        If he will dance to the Qatari, Saudi and American dollars, then Russia will pay the lives of its people.

        I am not talking about that!
    4. MG42
      MG42 9 July 2013 18: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Vasily T.
      Look at him! He is not afraid of anything
  • KononAV
    KononAV 9 July 2013 10: 07 New
    +2
    Kill. Kill everyone !!!!!!!!!!
  • Himalayan
    Himalayan 9 July 2013 10: 11 New
    +8
    Quote: YuriWhite
    that not one Chechen killed the paratrooper from here and the unrest. And as always they hang noodles for us. And the main reason is that the Russians are generally inert or even cowardly until a certain point - how many times was this convinced of the SA when fighting with Caucasians and no one came to the rescue and in civilian life when one made a comment to the southern guests and the rest sat and did the view that nothing is happening but the southern guests are immediately images

    I agree. Even the articles went: at first the murderer was 17 years old, after 16 ... an emphasis on minority. It's like last year, chicha, father of 14-15 children and with a white ticket, killed the mayor http://kornev.livejournal.com/337307.html
    Everything is very competent. Like marmots, formerly Khazbulatov (and these are public faces) Were in the Kremlin. So the prosecutor’s office grabs hit Cheech. There, on the brakes, things are coming down.
  • EGORKA
    EGORKA 9 July 2013 10: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: KononAV
    Kill. Kill everyone !!!!!!!!!!

    We must give a chance, try to reason ... our powers that be must finally move and make everyone live according to the law.
  • Cyril7377
    Cyril7377 9 July 2013 10: 32 New
    +1
    [quote = RA77] [quote = Cyril7377] it is possible that the hit from behind got into the artery and therefore the guy died so quickly [/ quote]
    What kind of nonsense are you talking about? It is written, "multiple stab-cut wounds of the chest", from which "the victim died in a medical institution."

    Dear, choose expressions, I don’t know with whom you communicate in life, in my society such words are not used in a dispute, this is firstly, secondly, by the nature of my activity, I have seen enough of corpses a lot, so I can roughly imagine what I'm saying, and thirdly did you see a scalpel in your eyes? apparently in your view this is a huge machete-)
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 9 July 2013 11: 21 New
      0
      Scalpel scalpel discord. I made a working knife out of one 20 cm.
  • Nasty
    Nasty 9 July 2013 10: 42 New
    +6
    The laws are stupid.
    Instead of punishing the criminal and protecting society from him, we are offered to think about his vulnerable soul, national characteristics and other garbage.
    In the United States, this animal would have received its legal 40 years.
    Punishment should lead to the extinction of the genus. Therefore, the dates are half a century without dates.
    Islamists, terrorists sew up in the skins of pigs and so bury. they’ll definitely not be allowed into paradise
    1. itkul
      itkul 9 July 2013 13: 20 New
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      Quote: Nadyt
      In the United States, this animal would have received its legal 40 years.


      Yes, the USA well done in this regard

      http://www.rg.ru/2013/07/02/carter-site.html

      As the father of Justin Carter told the media, his son's tragedy began with a discussion on Facebook, which discussed an online game in which Justin and his friend had just participated. One of the interlocutors ironically remarked that Justin is crazy. "To this my son, with his characteristic sarcasm, replied:" Oh, yes, I'm really crazy, I'm going to shoot a full school of children and eat their still beating hearts, "and then explained:" a joke. "This entry was seen by an anonymous user from Canada, who took Carter's statement seriously, found the teen's home address on search engines and reported it to the police.

      On February 14, in Austin, Texas, the young man was arrested on suspicion of a "terrorist threat" and has since been in custody awaiting trial. He faces up to 10 years in prison.
  • anarh
    anarh 9 July 2013 10: 45 New
    +5
    Quote: Whale
    Stop mooing Russian cows moo moo moo

    The words of the non-Russian ram.
  • pupkin70
    pupkin70 9 July 2013 10: 52 New
    +1
    Here is an interesting (before revolutionary) book about Chechens. At the end there is a link to the book as a whole.
    http://ru-nsn.livejournal.com/3099527.html
    As I have already said, in the current situation in Russia, the so-called "Russian elite", which is entirely composed of Jews, is to blame.
    The principle SHARE AND POWER IN ACTION. While we are all outraged and indignant, oil capitals go to London.
    NEEDS WHAT TO DO WITH THE RUSSIAN-ZHIDOVSKY ELITE.
    http://ru.scribd.com/doc/126073526/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B8-%D0%B8-%
    D1%87%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%86%D1%8B-%D0%B2-%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8C%D0%B5-
    %D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%A2%D0%B5%
    D1%80%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8-%D0%A2%
    D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2-%D0%93-%D0%90
    1. anarh
      anarh 9 July 2013 18: 09 New
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      I read it.