S. Chernyakhovsky: “Medvedev’s main goal is to cause as much harm to the country as possible”

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His position is based on a deep contempt for society.

Among the many differences in Medvedev’s speeches in front of the Duma and Putin on a straight line with a difference of a week on a straight line, one of the most significant differences was the choice of criteria for evaluating the activities of each of the ministers and the government as a whole.

Medvedev, in response to criticism from the deputies of the most odious members of his cabinet, said that “the minister is not the ruble, in order to please everyone,” and in fact he voiced a bright but very controversial thesis: “A popular minister is a bad minister.”

The idea of ​​evaluating the work of members of the government is just so funny in itself. In general, ministers are appointed to do something useful for the branches entrusted to their cares and to solve their problems. If the minister benefits the industry, he will be popular in the industry. If he benefits society, he will be popular in society. Of course, a situation is possible when the minister is unpopular in the industry and popular in society (although if subordinates dislike the head, they will work in such a way that they will not be loved in society either).

The position of Medvedev, to put it mildly, is kind of strange: if society is angry with the minister, then he doesn’t see any trouble in that. For him the main thing is that the minister would like him and his friends. The extravagance of this position is based, on the one hand, on deep contempt for the people and society, on the other - on the misunderstanding that the protection of an unpopular minister makes you and your government unpopular. Although if we assume that unpopularity is evidence of usefulness, the minister, who reduces your popularity, thereby increases your usefulness. After all, if you follow Medvedev's logic to the end, it turns out that since a popular minister is a bad minister, then a popular prime minister is a bad prime minister, and a popular government is a bad government.

This, again, the logic of Dmitry Medvedev. According to this logic, the more harm he and his government bring, the better they work. That is, the main thing, in his opinion, what it should do is to strive to bring the country as much harm as possible. And, judging by the results, his office solves this problem quite successfully.

And Medvedev's position as it can be understood, judging by his speech to the deputies, is that the government and the ministers should be out of the control of society, and only he and his friends have the right to evaluate their activities.

But, generally speaking, the same Putin who appointed and has not yet sent the prime minister, during the direct line, formulated a different format for evaluating the activities of the government and ministers, saying that he would judge them on the basis of three factors: the attitude of society towards them, the execution of it May decrees and - especially - the fulfillment of social obligations.

That the government is practically unable to cope with the implementation of decrees is obvious. What more than peculiarly fulfills social obligations is also obvious. For example, “in pursuance of decrees”, it requires higher education institutions to increase teachers' salaries without allocating the necessary funds for this, and in parallel with this makes it increase the burden on teachers and initiates their mass layoffs.

By the way, the “monitoring of universities” scandal, which was carried out on the basis of all the indicators that were laughing and revolted, and the list of “inefficient universities” that were compiled on its basis was formally made in accordance with the presidential instructions contained in those same decrees. But it was executed in such a way that it completely discredited the idea embedded in them.

Yes, formally there is an increase in pensions, which the government reports, but at the same time, according to the structures of the Ministry of Labor and social security systems, there is an unspoken order to remove disability groups from as many disabled people as possible to save on pensions and preferential provision for this category. There are cases when by the end of 2012 the salary in social spheres rose in order to report on the execution of the presidential instructions, but since spring it has been reduced below the previous level, because the government has not allocated money to maintain it at a new, increased level.

This all concerns those presidential instructions for which the government reports as if they were executed. But almost two thirds of these instructions were not fulfilled at all! Medvedev’s ministers in fact act in part as saboteurs of decrees, and in part as conscious pests.

But then you still need to make decisions to the president. And if, as he said in the course of the dialogue with citizens, “it is necessary that all leaders of any rank — both in presidential structures and in the government — feel and understand that ordinary citizens closely follow the results of our work and give their assessments. It’s necessary to focus on the opinion of citizens ”, then it means you need to focus on the opinion of citizens. And for citizens, to express and demonstrate it more actively.

So let's fix it: Medvedev believes that the ministers should not like the citizens, but his friends, while Putin says that you need to focus on the opinions of the citizens. In essence, he calls for putting the government under civilian control, under the control of society. So you need to put it under this control. So, it is necessary to find forms, methods and structures that can force the ministers to fulfill the will of the citizens, either by suppressing their unwillingness to do this, or by achieving their elimination from the government in ways that will be quite effective for this.

Among people who consider it necessary and possible to impose changes on society, which society does not want, there is a firm belief that unpopular decisions are an achievement. It is based on the unshakable confidence in their own wisdom and rightness, as well as the stupidity of all others, on the burning desire to drive everyone with an iron hand, not even in “happiness”, but in “efficiency”. Although at the same time, the criterion of this effectiveness remains not fully clarified. What seems to be an effective “reformer” from the point of view of a more or less beautiful scheme invented by him, in fact, it often turns out to be stupidity and evil from the point of view of real life and the needs of the industry that he is reforming.

There is a situation when for the realization of what is really needed, the leader uses tough and even cruel measures, goes to the target by those bones. who becomes the material for his historical creativity. And then the question arises about the relationship between price and result, and this dispute can go on for centuries. But the result somehow remains indisputable, even if the price turns out to be controversial. And such a leader is usually more popular than cursed. Moreover, for the most part it is cursed by the elites and glorified by the masses.
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  1. -1
    11 May 2013 21: 45
    you are a leech,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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    ,,,,,,,,,,, but there is a chance
  2. +2
    11 May 2013 21: 53
    I was looking for information in the article on the basis of which the author made conclusions for the title. I read the text a couple of times and couldn’t find it.
    - And you?
    1. djon3volta
      -1
      11 May 2013 22: 22
      Quote: MyVrach
      I read the text a couple of times and couldn’t find it.
      - And you?

      Yesterday, in a moment of silence, someone found words about the gulag. No one had found anything for many years, but he (the author of the article) just found it! laughing
  3. 0
    11 May 2013 21: 54
    I would write: what can we take from him, the blessed one - if this blessed one were not the prime minister... The blessed in our time do not become officials, which means he is an enemy and a traitor. And with him is the one who installed him and covers him.
  4. +1
    11 May 2013 22: 12
    Quote: rsnv
    1. I didn’t get on the same page with you, so there’s no need to poke me.


    Yes, in principle, it doesn’t matter to me what you switched to :) This is the Internet, and here it’s customary to communicate on you, especially since you’re not old enough for me to call you you

    Quote: rsnv
    2. GDP has been in power for almost 13 years. What has been done in the economy, in the real sector of production, in science, you can only say without pseudo-patriotic demagoguery. We do not take factories for screwdriver assembly of third-rate cars into account.


    Why didn’t the factories suit you? BMW, Toyota, Volkswagen, etc. third grade? yes, we got drunk though :)
    I already answered this question above, if everything was so bad, then people wouldn’t have stocked their cars, wouldn’t go on vacation abroad so often, etc. You need specific numbers - go to the Rosstat website and look - I’m not going to throw pearls before swine here

    Quote: rsnv
    3. What did the GDP inherit in 2000 and what did the USSR inherit after the Great Patriotic War? 1945 + 14 = 1959 what was done during this time (there is no need to refer to the free labor of Gulag prisoners; now there are no less prisoners)? Oil was not driven over the hill back then. Compare achievements.


    wow .. it’s also bad history :) Do we have thousands of prisoners? What about free labor and the level of production... Have you looked out the window? Are you watching the news? Do you watch TV or use a computer? Is it not that the level of TECHNOLOGY is completely different? Now if you fall behind in some industry, it is very difficult to catch up.

    Moreover, Stalin sent people like you and swamp workers to camps so that you would not interfere with the rise of the country, and unfortunately the GDP does not want to do this, although it did not hurt to send the particularly arrogant and stupid people to hard labor, otherwise May 9 is no longer a holiday for them, it’s gays good, etc. Then there was a different ideology, now the 5th column of the current is screaming, but they don’t want to work.

    Didn't they drive oil? Yah? ;) During the USSR, oil, timber, gas were exported, but not enough, the main income was made from alcohol and tobacco (more than a third of the country's budget)... poisoning the people, in fact, now the gene pool is suffering for this.

    Quote: rsnv
    4. Over the past 10 years, the average price of a barrel of oil was approximately $100 (a record for the entire period of observation), how many new schools and kindergartens were built during this time, I generally keep quiet about factories. About four or five BMD-4M, etc. no need to talk either


    You have no time not to be a manager, because you are stupid. There are priority tasks - defense, preservation of sovereignty, pensions, salaries for civil servants, etc., and non-priority tasks - these are the kindergartens that are explicitly written down. Well, scream that this is wrong, etc. When you start yelling, don’t forget that just recently our KINDERGARTENS were empty because they didn’t want to give birth. Now they are building it quietly, because as much as you shout about extra income, you forget that there are a LOT of tasks in the country, and money is needed for them, that these incomes are not enough.

    Quote: rsnv
    5. You can learn more about the country into which its GDP was turned


    if you lived in the 90s, when they sat for years without wages, when they killed people left and right, maybe then the dog would understand the difference between before and after Putin’s Russia
    1. djon3volta
      -2
      11 May 2013 22: 19
      Quote: Bad
      Quote: rsnv
      3. What did the GDP inherit in 2000 and what did the USSR inherit after the Great Patriotic War?

      let him get acquainted with this, this one RSNV.

      http://topwar.ru/22156-putin-i-stalin-sravnitelnyy-analiz.html

      some need to be reminded, otherwise they forget that Stalin ruled for almost 30 years, and Putin was only in his 9th year. That is, the category who generally attributes Putin’s rule to 20 years)))
      1. RSNV.
        0
        11 May 2013 22: 23
        I indicated a specific historical period after the end of the most difficult war; you can take another historical interval from 1927 to 1941. But even here you will not answer with anything worthwhile except cheap demagoguery and rudeness (like an evil one)
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    3. RSNV.
      0
      11 May 2013 22: 25
      For feisty:
      You need to get treatment, but it’s unlikely to help, and also take care of your nerves and strengthen them, otherwise your idol won’t live up to your hopes
  5. 0
    11 May 2013 22: 22
    Quote: Ribwort
    Quote: Bad
    Now he will simply gradually remove this rabble

    Did Putin tell you this in a private conversation?
    Quote: Bad
    and put your people in his place

    Whose people were they, I wonder, all these 12 years?
    Quote: Bad
    You can’t just go and disband everyone to hell.

    But it is possible to imprison a couple or two with complete confiscation of property. And for others - science. But for some reason this is not being done...
    Quote: Bad
    Here we need to work surgically

    Is he a lawyer by training? So don't get your hopes up. For another three years he will legally justify the need to use a scalpel.


    1. The brain is given to a person to think
    2. Now I’ll give you a company with a staff of 140 million, of which there are a lot of officials and civil servants - give me a replacement for ALL of them from your people at once? No? Strange.. why are you being stupid then? ;)
    3. Why isn’t this being done... how can you imprison someone if the court and the prosecutor’s office feed from the same trough as those they judge? If Putin starts imprisoning people at his behest without trial, the country will immediately slide back 15 years, because all businesses will immediately transfer their assets overseas, because no one will work in a country where there is no playing by the rules. Plus, such a stir will begin in NATO that it’s not far from the world, they are afraid of our unpredictability, but now imagine what will happen if Putin becomes a full-fledged dictator? I’m afraid we will receive nuclear weapons as a gift in a week, because it’s clear to anyone that a dictatorial regime in a country like ours will give a very big leap in development. Are Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon not enough for you? It was the dictators who ensured development, and the USSR led by Stalin is also an example
    4. Is VVP a lawyer? :) You're confusing this with a bear
    1. RSNV.
      +1
      11 May 2013 22: 28
      “The brain is given to a person to think” - a very smart and original idea
  6. -1
    11 May 2013 22: 31
    Quote: djon3volta
    let him get acquainted with this, this rsnv

    http://topwar.ru/22156-putin-i-stalin-sravnitelnyy-analiz.html

    some need to be reminded, otherwise they forget that Stalin ruled for almost 30 years, and Putin was only in his 9th year. That is, the category who generally attributes Putin’s rule to 20 years)))


    Thank you, but the problem is that “they” don’t need it, they just shout that everything is bad, how bad it is for them to live.

    Although, to be honest, I respected Navalny (if you take the people from “them”), while he was working on Rospil, the project was necessary, I even allocated money for it... but as soon as he went into politics, I realized that he was either a misdirected Cossack, or simply with his head I hit myself somewhere, because I’m talking such nonsense that you’re amazed.

    How I dream of those times when the opposition will not only give specifics, but will also be patriots of the country, and not, like now, the 5th column, which you want to assemble for the next Titanic and sink in the ocean.
  7. -1
    11 May 2013 22: 34
    Quote: rsnv
    I indicated a specific historical period after the end of the most difficult war; you can take another historical interval from 1927 to 1941. But even here you will not answer with anything worthwhile except cheap demagoguery and rudeness (like an evil one)


    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D0%B2_%D0%A1%D0%A1%
    D0%A1%D0%A0_%281932%E2%80%941933%29

    as an example

    Maybe you can immediately indicate the period from the king of peas? ;)
    1. RSNV.
      0
      12 May 2013 00: 02
      You're talking about the Holodomor again, maybe something more original. And Wikipedia is undoubtedly a very authoritative source)))
  8. -1
    11 May 2013 22: 37
    Quote: rsnv
    For feisty:
    You need to get treatment, but it’s unlikely to help, and also take care of your nerves and strengthen them, otherwise your idol won’t live up to your hopes


    Why is GDP my idol? ;) I'm happy with how it works, except for some points.

    Who should be my idol? Or which country should be my role model?
  9. Rainman69
    -1
    11 May 2013 22: 41
    GDP has been in power for 13 years, Putin got the country in a dismantled state with a large state debt and a small gold reserve...inflation was 40%. the revival of Russia. Firstly, when everything is about and there is nothing, what should you do first? Before Putin, oil did not go to the treasury of the Russian Federation (there some pennies were dripping from the barrel), duties were minimal, the PSA law was in force. Putin ends the war in Chechnya and kills terrorist militants, of course they (pumped up with Western money) respond with terrorist attacks. Next, Putin increases duties on oil exports, repeals the PSA law, takes away (legally) YUKOS from Khodorkovsky, and annexes it to RosNeft (state corporation). From such maneuvers, money began to flow into the treasury of the Russian Federation, there were no other sources AND WITH THIS, A BIG THANK YOU TO PUTIN!! ! All this time, all 10 years, GDP grew, inflation fell, in total, in 8-10 years, Putin managed to increase gold reserves 10 times, reduce inflation from 40 to 6-8%, pay off most of the national debt. GDP has doubled and continues to grow ...Putin has been supporting and modernizing the army all this time, but for 2 years not much has been done. THERE ARE NO FUNDS, because that money from oil and gas went to rebuild the country, SAVING what COULD be saved, but saving a dying industry is not so easy, I had to sacrifice something!!! With this money they began to pay more or less normal pensions and salaries WITHOUT DELAYS that were under the EBN... The well-being of the people has only been growing for 10 years, this can be seen by looking out the window, there have been countless cars, mostly new foreign cars, all around there are supermarkets, shops, etc. Sports complexes were installed in every city
  10. KononAV
    +1
    11 May 2013 22: 41
    Well, our long-suffering country is so unlucky with its leadership. sometimes you just become scared for the future. It's a shame for the state( am
  11. Rainman69
    0
    11 May 2013 22: 41
    "Sport complexes
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/3877/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/3884/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/13022/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/13023/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/13025/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27514/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27522/ "

    New kindergartens (only for 1 year):
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27495/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27516/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27530/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27596/

    New agricultural giant enterprises:
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blo...6566/?pid=242613#comments
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/20468/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/20960/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/19741/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/14990/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/22535/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/14520/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blo...6785/?pid=245085#comments
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blo...6785/?pid=245092#comments

    Growth of output at existing enterprises:
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blo...2680/?pid=337151#comments

    New industrial enterprises (and this is only for 2012 and 3 months of 2013):
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/14697/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/15821/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/17140/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/18083/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/19106/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/20222/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/21366/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/22867/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/24541/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/25791/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27160/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/29730/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/31268/
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/32716/

    23 trillion rubles have been allocated for the rearmament of the army, all contracts have already been signed, 2020 ships and 54 submarines should be delivered by 24, many of which have already been laid down, some have already entered service or are undergoing final tests...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=40iIdXPATHs

    I have been leading a rearmament group for 1.5 years now, and I know that you are a vile liar who distorts information, who writes from another country and most likely for money!! The army is already receiving aircraft, armored personnel carriers, missile systems, military Kamaz vehicles, new missiles are being developed, nuclear forces have been rearmed by 1/3 with new YARS and POPLAR M...you can go to the website sdelanounas.ru, everything is there in the blog "army and sport"...The military-industrial complex exports a lot, and this also brings good money into the budget!! Russia is in second place in arms exports in the WORLD!!!

    Putin. Russia 10 years later.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PtYdwnaxXDs

    Anatoly Wasserman: what good has Putin done for Russia?
    http://krasvremya.ru/anatolij-vasserman-chto-xoroshego-putin-sdelal-dlya-rossii/
    - an educational country for people like you...

    Starting this year, the Sukhoi Superjet will produce up to 60 aircraft per year, and they began producing new modernized IL 76. Russian President Vladimir Putin was personally present at the demonstration flight of the new Il-476 military transport aircraft. 6 years ago, they decided to move the production of Il-76 from Uzbekistan to Russia. And during this time, virtually new production was created in the Ulyanovsk region. http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=924857

    I can find a lot of such information on RosAtom and on Russian Technologies, which Putin created, on the customs union and on the huge increase in trade turnover with foreign partners...
    1. RSNV.
      -1
      11 May 2013 23: 07
      Calling a person a liar just like that is very bad. What information did I distort and lie about?
      How did you determine my nationality based on the IP address and how much money do I receive?
      I have carefully read your post describing the great achievements of the modern era and want to help you a little in your selfless work by quoting:
      "My name is Svetlana, I am from the city of Ivanovo. United Russia has made a lot of achievements: they have raised the economy... the economy, we have become better... dressed, and it was not that right now - these are very great achievements! In agriculture very good. There is more... land for-ah... a lot, well... I don’t even know how to say... sow more land... ah-ah-here, there are vegetables, rye - that’s it that's all. What else can I say..."
      As for the topic I raised, I advise you to read the book: “National Economy of the USSR” by S. G. Kara-Murza (from “Algorithm” 2012)
    2. djon3volta
      -2
      11 May 2013 23: 14
      “Remember Russia 15-20 years ago,” says the actor. - I was here at that time, and, honestly, it was some kind of ridiculous parody of the country. Putin almost single-handedly turned it into a surprisingly powerful power, actively developing economically, despite obstacles. He has re-created a foreign policy relationship that is, frankly, impressive. The other day I met with the head of national security of the Obama cabinet, who was here in Russia. And he told me what I can tell you: “We don’t look at all things the same way, we have certain differences, but we consider Putin one of the great world leaders, we have much more in common than contradictions.”

      “I also say that Putin is an outstanding world leader and has done amazing things for Russia. Of course, the head of the state will never be a person who is liked by everyone without exception. Just like there is no actor who is loved by absolutely everyone. Everyone should have their own opinion, my opinion is that Putin has done a great job, and I think Medvedev in many ways continues his line, and together they are a great team.”



      Of course, he got excited with Medvedev)))
      1. RSNV.
        -1
        11 May 2013 23: 35
        Steven Seagal is a recognized expert on Russia
    3. RSNV.
      0
      11 May 2013 23: 26
      For Rainman69
      Superjet question: How many superjets were produced this year and which airlines purchased them? Hint: 60/12 * 4 = 20 superjets, Where are they?
  12. +3
    11 May 2013 23: 01
    Dear sirs, comrades and ordinary citizens!
    Somehow, I see, simple truths are forgotten (I am not the one who substantiates them; they arose due to historical and dialectical processes).
    Society is not perfect, no matter what culture it carries.
    And this is the first and most important thesis for justifying the subsequent logically following consequences.
    The dilemma was not created by us. It comes, I’m not afraid to say, from the awareness of man as a member of society (those who have read Lenin may accuse me of subjectivism, nevertheless, I will express my opinion... and may he who has ears hear!)
    So - a dilemma! Remember the Roman word “Qui bono” (who benefits)?
    And, by the way, it is Greek, but in Roman writing - “Qui benevolens” (to whom it is useful).
    And now. who is at least a little familiar with philology, compare and get
    the answer to many strange questions.
  13. Anton Russian
    +3
    11 May 2013 23: 06
    Chernyakhovsky’s main goal is to ride on populism.
    Now, if you criticize the government, then apparently they listen to you more. Well done, he's doing everything right.
  14. +1
    11 May 2013 23: 23
    I read all the current comments and felt sad
    - cloudy, negative and only:

    "cockroaches give a standing ovation."
    1. RSNV.
      -2
      11 May 2013 23: 30
      you need to look at things soberly, without rose-colored glasses
  15. -2
    11 May 2013 23: 24
    At the head of today's Russia is an UNprecedented d.e.r.b.m.o... Now this d.e.'s main task is to FINALLY take away ALL the property of the Russians, DISARM them, then extinction, reservations... And this is not nonsense, not paranoia - this is REALITY, which is already VISIBLE with the naked eye...
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  17. Rainman69
    -1
    12 May 2013 00: 37
    it’s very simple, for example, my flag is Russian, someone’s is Belarusian, and you have a strange flag similar to Chinese with the name SU, I don’t know from what country you are writing...with Sveta from Ivanovo, an unsuccessful example, I’ve seen many videos of your comrades oppositionists I can’t put two words together, except Putin is a thief and Putin is a cripple, United Russia is a party of swindlers and thieves - the slogans of 90% of the oppositionists, more than whom they know nothing, I answered all the other questions for you, about the USSR and Russia they sent you a link from comparative analysis... Regarding aviation and the superjet: Serial production of the Il-76MD-90A has begun. Photo fact http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/29317/, Production of Il-76MD-90A aircraft (video) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HHNxGw3fx-4, production of new civilian aircraft for the first 5 years: Tu-134 (1963) 1 - 1 - 1 - 8 - 9 total 20 (1 aircraft lost)
    An-148 (2004) 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 total 2
    SSJ100 (2008) 2 - 1 - 2 - 5 - 12 total 22 (1 aircraft lost), (progress is obvious!!! 2010 aircraft in 3, 2011 aircraft in 13, 2012 aircraft in 21, Russian Helicopters in 2012 year, we delivered more than 300 helicopters to customers. http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27355/, I don’t remember where the link is for the Superjet, but I remember for sure that I heard first-hand that either from next year or from 2015 the release is planned by 60 aircraft per year, and this is not fantastic, + both TU and IL 76, and the new MS-21 (http://mc-21.wikidot.com/) are progressing in military aviation, everything is also very good, 600 aircraft by 2020 year, some have already arrived, some are due to enter this year, and so on every year until 2020...
    Quote: rsnv
    How did you determine my nationality by IP address?
    1. RSNV.
      0
      12 May 2013 02: 19
      1. Many people have this flag here, for those who forget, I remind you - this is the flag of the USSR.
      2. I am writing to you from the Russian Federation, the USSR no longer exists.
      3. You can string together a lot more words than my supposed friends. The example with Sveta is simply indicative, you connect words approximately like she does.
      4. In my messages I never mentioned the United Russia party, what did you remember about it last night?
      5. For TU-134, your text: “5 years: Tu-134 (1963) 1 - 1 - 1 - 8 - 9 total 20 (1 plane lost).” And how many TU-134s were produced later and how many in 1964, 1965, ..., 1968? Did the USSR produce other types of aircraft? The TU-134 is still flying; the superjet will be forgotten in five years. As an expert in technology and the military-industrial complex, can you say how many domestic components are in the superjet? TU-134 had, as they say now, 100% localization, but what about the superjet?
      6. The AN-148 flies no less than superjets, it costs less, and the development of the AN-148 cost Ukraine several times cheaper than the superjet for us. The AN-148 has at least as many components produced in Russia as a superjet, but the AN-148 is a Ukrainian aircraft.
      7. MS-21 is just a project, the first flight is planned for 2015.
      8. What is the progress of the TU company, can you tell us in more detail.
      9. IL-76MF, on the basis of which the IL-76MD-90A was created, made its first flight in 1995. It’s good that they remembered it now, otherwise the average age of military technical support in the Russian Air Force has exceeded 20 years.
      10. Most of these 300 helicopters are exported; they do not work for Russia. Russia doesn't need new helicopters? Do you know what the average age of the Russian helicopter fleet is?
      11. “600 aircraft by 2020, some have already arrived, some should arrive this year, and so on every year until 2020...” - great, all we have to do is wait for 2020 and let oil cost $100, or better still $200 .
      12. What type of aircraft is this “some”, like stealth or something?
  18. +1
    12 May 2013 00: 47
    My dear friend! (Judging by the flag, from Belarus).
    Not everything is so bad “in the kingdom of Denmark” (read Shakespeare).
    And before expressing my opinion, I bring - this is honest - my pain, which is alive in me in memory of Brest, Grodno and countless villages and people
    Belarus was the first to bear the brunt of the war.
    This will not happen. And the point is not even that someone was ahead of another opponent in the arms race, due to historical patterns - the confrontation (and it really exists and will not go anywhere, unfortunately) has turned into a struggle for the biocenosis. Or in other words, for survival. One seventh of the land suitable for habitation belongs to
    Russia. The population of Russia is approximately 2,1% of the total population of the Earth. What else is unclear?
  19. RUkola
    0
    12 May 2013 03: 15
    Well, I look and see this is the second Nicholas II (sorry for the pun), just as weak-willed and disconnected from the people, there are all sorts of iPhones, the renaming of the police into the police, the Russian Federation domain on the Internet (who uses it?)
  20. -1
    12 May 2013 03: 31
    After Surkov, Dvorkovich will be next. God willing, we'll see...
  21. Frunze
    +1
    12 May 2013 03: 58
    It's a shame, but it is necessary to face the situation.....
  22. doctor3006
    0
    12 May 2013 05: 46
    Yes, yes, but Volodya, as always, had nothing to do with it. We've been listening to this for 13 years now.
  23. 0
    12 May 2013 07: 56
    Dear IGARR! We have a communications services intercom on Thursday mornings. Shall we chat? hi
  24. -1
    12 May 2013 08: 26
    Somehow the political analysts and analysts fell silent. Apparently the payment has ended? And will Ksyusha Sobchak for president be as transparent as Dom-2? I live on a salary and a pension and I don’t have enough for a Porsche Cayenne, but because of this, incite the people to revolutions and fratricidal massacres? So whose bowl are you feeding from?
    1. RSNV.
      0
      12 May 2013 12: 36
      And besides Ksyusha and Dom-2, you can say something more original, otherwise you somehow work poorly, without fancy, without spark and without facts. It’s obvious how you get paid and how you work, you need to work harder and watch House-2 less.
  25. stranik72
    +1
    12 May 2013 09: 10
    “He (GDP) inherited a much heavier inheritance than Stalin.”
    Bullshit. And to say it is even more stupid, look at the state of the country after the revolution and civil war. You read and are amazed, these idolaters, the GDP had opportunities that Stalin could not even dream of, he realized 10% of what he could, but he created this hydra aligarchy and divided the people into friends and foes, not eBN, but he, together with DAM stands at the origins of the blatant lack of rights of the common people before officials, and don’t flatter yourself about the victory in the Chechen war, look at how they and we live and who their leader is, we pay them indemnity not only with money, but also with the opportunity to commit outrages in our cities. And further down the list, study the history of your country in order to understand who is who.
  26. tomich
    +2
    12 May 2013 11: 54
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    Gentlemen, admins, I have already written more than once or twice - there are too many paid people appearing on the site who are increasing their reputation (no matter what, they have advantages everywhere), and are clearly leading an anti-Russian line. Soon they will simply gain a turnip, and will begin to demote rather “positive” materials and posts into minuses. It's so elementary

    I say inadequate, who pays me, excuse me, and what bank account is the money transferred to? I’m interested? Why did you decide that I am from the USA? Come visit us in Tomsk and see how “healthy” we live.
    Does it really hurt your eyes? you and I are looking out of different windows, I think you probably know better from an elite high-rise
    1. RSNV.
      0
      12 May 2013 12: 40
      Maybe the money is paid to them, the “inadequate” ones. They just work rather poorly, in a formulaic way, without sparkle.
  27. Lukich
    0
    12 May 2013 13: 06
    Quote Author Sergei Chernyakhovsky -:“There is a situation when, in order to achieve what is really needed, a leader uses tough and even cruel measures, goes to the goal over the bones of those who become material for his historical creativity. And then the question arises about the relationship between cost and result, and this dispute can go on for centuries. But the result one way or another remains undeniable, even if the price is controversial. And such a leader usually turns out to be more popular than cursed. Moreover, for the most part he is cursed by the elites and glorified by the masses."
    The leader does not have to please everyone - he must do his job well, sometimes strictly sticking to his line. And he must also be accountable to the people he serves.
    ...You can do it differently - pickle a lot of cucumbers, cook herring with potatoes, and give the sweaty ones to everyone - the ministers work calmly and the people don’t make a fuss... Idyll!!!

    ...About Medvedev separately - as one person said on a completely different occasion (free translation) - he is red on top, like a radish, but his insides are something else... and I think this is true in this case...
  28. -1
    12 May 2013 14: 21
    Dear rsnv! Yes, you’re a pyromaniac, my friend, you’re probably used to - A spark will ignite a flame, or God forbid you took part in torchlight processions. So you haven’t answered whose bowl you feed from.
    1. RSNV.
      0
      12 May 2013 17: 53
      I answer. Unlike you, I don’t feed from a bowl, I’m not a pyromaniac, I make my living with my head and hands
  29. 0
    12 May 2013 15: 30
    S. Chernyakhovsky: “Medvedev’s main goal is to cause as much harm to the country as possible”

    Unfortunately, this smug "god" constantly hits the top ten. Wherever you look, you feel the result of his “reforms” - all are HARMFUL, do not meet the interests of the PEOPLE, causing only irritation. And it seems that the stronger the people’s IRRITATION, MOANING, the more pleasant it seems to them. He and others like him - a retinue of ministers and others, by the way, under the direct leadership of CIA agents - destroyed everything good that happened under the USSR in all sectors of their activity. This includes the reform of education, medicine, pensions, the abolition of GOSTs, OSTs, SNiPs in all sectors of the national economy, in construction and the food industry, he didn’t even spare TIME: - HE LIKES IT SO MUCH, and that’s all! All his reforms pose a threat to the lives of the people of the country. He apparently PERFORMS the task of the “universal government” to reduce the number of people, and this “lot” unfortunately fell to the lot of RUSSIA. In addition to this, he wiped his feet on the entire people of not only Russia, but also all the countries of the former USSR - AWARDING the hunchback with the highest award in Russia - the Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called, apparently for the collapse of the country. Because of him, the Victory of the USSR in the Second World War was HUMILIATED throughout the world, Stalin’s merit was erased, the Poles were “freed” to bark at Russia. Undoubtedly: “Medvedev’s main goal is to cause as much harm to the country as possible”
  30. +1
    12 May 2013 18: 39
    Dear rsnv! Well, we’ve decided, I apologize for thinking badly of you, it turns out you’re not a paid fighter, but an ideological one. And it’s very good that you earn with your head and hands, like the majority of our people. Good luck with business!
    1. RSNV.
      0
      12 May 2013 19: 37
      Thank you for your kind wishes.