S. Chernyakhovsky: “Medvedev’s main goal is to cause as much harm to the country as possible”

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His position is based on a deep contempt for society.

Among the many differences in Medvedev’s speeches in front of the Duma and Putin on a straight line with a difference of a week on a straight line, one of the most significant differences was the choice of criteria for evaluating the activities of each of the ministers and the government as a whole.

Medvedev, in response to criticism from the deputies of the most odious members of his cabinet, said that “the minister is not the ruble, in order to please everyone,” and in fact he voiced a bright but very controversial thesis: “A popular minister is a bad minister.”

The idea of ​​evaluating the work of members of the government is just so funny in itself. In general, ministers are appointed to do something useful for the branches entrusted to their cares and to solve their problems. If the minister benefits the industry, he will be popular in the industry. If he benefits society, he will be popular in society. Of course, a situation is possible when the minister is unpopular in the industry and popular in society (although if subordinates dislike the head, they will work in such a way that they will not be loved in society either).

The position of Medvedev, to put it mildly, is kind of strange: if society is angry with the minister, then he doesn’t see any trouble in that. For him the main thing is that the minister would like him and his friends. The extravagance of this position is based, on the one hand, on deep contempt for the people and society, on the other - on the misunderstanding that the protection of an unpopular minister makes you and your government unpopular. Although if we assume that unpopularity is evidence of usefulness, the minister, who reduces your popularity, thereby increases your usefulness. After all, if you follow Medvedev's logic to the end, it turns out that since a popular minister is a bad minister, then a popular prime minister is a bad prime minister, and a popular government is a bad government.

This, again, the logic of Dmitry Medvedev. According to this logic, the more harm he and his government bring, the better they work. That is, the main thing, in his opinion, what it should do is to strive to bring the country as much harm as possible. And, judging by the results, his office solves this problem quite successfully.

And Medvedev's position as it can be understood, judging by his speech to the deputies, is that the government and the ministers should be out of the control of society, and only he and his friends have the right to evaluate their activities.

But, generally speaking, the same Putin who appointed and has not yet sent the prime minister, during the direct line, formulated a different format for evaluating the activities of the government and ministers, saying that he would judge them on the basis of three factors: the attitude of society towards them, the execution of it May decrees and - especially - the fulfillment of social obligations.

That the government is practically unable to cope with the implementation of decrees is obvious. What more than peculiarly fulfills social obligations is also obvious. For example, “in pursuance of decrees”, it requires higher education institutions to increase teachers' salaries without allocating the necessary funds for this, and in parallel with this makes it increase the burden on teachers and initiates their mass layoffs.

By the way, the “monitoring of universities” scandal, which was carried out on the basis of all the indicators that were laughing and revolted, and the list of “inefficient universities” that were compiled on its basis was formally made in accordance with the presidential instructions contained in those same decrees. But it was executed in such a way that it completely discredited the idea embedded in them.

Yes, formally there is an increase in pensions, which the government reports, but at the same time, according to the structures of the Ministry of Labor and social security systems, there is an unspoken order to remove disability groups from as many disabled people as possible to save on pensions and preferential provision for this category. There are cases when by the end of 2012 the salary in social spheres rose in order to report on the execution of the presidential instructions, but since spring it has been reduced below the previous level, because the government has not allocated money to maintain it at a new, increased level.

This all concerns those presidential instructions for which the government reports as if they were executed. But almost two thirds of these instructions were not fulfilled at all! Medvedev’s ministers in fact act in part as saboteurs of decrees, and in part as conscious pests.

But then you still need to make decisions to the president. And if, as he said in the course of the dialogue with citizens, “it is necessary that all leaders of any rank — both in presidential structures and in the government — feel and understand that ordinary citizens closely follow the results of our work and give their assessments. It’s necessary to focus on the opinion of citizens ”, then it means you need to focus on the opinion of citizens. And for citizens, to express and demonstrate it more actively.

So let's fix it: Medvedev believes that the ministers should not like the citizens, but his friends, while Putin says that you need to focus on the opinions of the citizens. In essence, he calls for putting the government under civilian control, under the control of society. So you need to put it under this control. So, it is necessary to find forms, methods and structures that can force the ministers to fulfill the will of the citizens, either by suppressing their unwillingness to do this, or by achieving their elimination from the government in ways that will be quite effective for this.

Among people who consider it necessary and possible to impose changes on society, which society does not want, there is a firm belief that unpopular decisions are an achievement. It is based on the unshakable confidence in their own wisdom and rightness, as well as the stupidity of all others, on the burning desire to drive everyone with an iron hand, not even in “happiness”, but in “efficiency”. Although at the same time, the criterion of this effectiveness remains not fully clarified. What seems to be an effective “reformer” from the point of view of a more or less beautiful scheme invented by him, in fact, it often turns out to be stupidity and evil from the point of view of real life and the needs of the industry that he is reforming.

There is a situation when for the realization of what is really needed, the leader uses tough and even cruel measures, goes to the target by those bones. who becomes the material for his historical creativity. And then the question arises about the relationship between price and result, and this dispute can go on for centuries. But the result somehow remains indisputable, even if the price turns out to be controversial. And such a leader is usually more popular than cursed. Moreover, for the most part it is cursed by the elites and glorified by the masses.
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  1. avt
    +93
    11 May 2013 10: 25
    Twitter Aifonovich All Medvedydev - Gorbachev second edition shattered and otifonenny.
    1. +54
      11 May 2013 10: 44
      If Vladimir Vladimirovich cares so much about the people, then why won't he remove the prime minister from his post? Although, remove from this, put on another, but how, without a money feeder to someone left. Putin is developing only a more or less military-industrial complex, but even more internal troops, the first to protect his money from an external enemy, the example of Gaddafi is indicative here, and the latter to protect against his own people. Just on May 9, we gathered with the guys to go to the eternal flame, near the Kremlin, to congratulate the veterans, so the whole center, absolutely the whole is blocked! There’s just a bunch of policemen, you can go only on one side, and only 4-5 turnstiles were delivered, the bunch of people were standing in the sun, for about 30 minutes, exactly, and there were elderly people and children, and about an hour more I had to get to of this entrance, because either you are being sent in one direction, then in the other. This is not a mockery of the people? They only think about themselves.
      1. +40
        11 May 2013 10: 52
        Medvedev lost his game in August 2011, and now he is finishing off Ivanov)
        1. +66
          11 May 2013 10: 57
          The sooner Medved with his entire gang will be driven, the better.
          1. Patriot of Russia
            +43
            11 May 2013 11: 27
            Quote: author
            Medvedev's main goal is to do as much harm to the country as possible
            (successfully implemented to this day)
            add: Serdyukov’s goal was to ruin the army (successfully implemented)
            Livanov’s goal is to bury education (successfully implemented)
            the list goes on with almost any ministry ...
            very interesting is the goal of their daddy Putler
            1. Atlon
              +4
              11 May 2013 12: 24
              Quote: Patriot of Russia
              very interesting is the goal of their daddy Putler

              To spoil you personally, steal all your money, and drink the blood of your children (if any). And also, make you a slave, and sell your apartment to enemies! am
              Didn’t you know? belay
              1. +22
                11 May 2013 13: 03
                Quote: Atlon
                To spoil you personally, steal all your money, and drink the blood of your children (if any). And also, make you a slave, and sell your apartment to enemies! am
                Didn’t you know? belay


                How tired you are, defenders of this corrupt, corrupt government!
                Well, I’m not sorry, once again admire your pet, maybe you are here for the slate? From our favorite party of crooks and thieves?

                1. avensis
                  +8
                  11 May 2013 17: 03
                  And as you are already tired - the crying wretched forever, In whom Putin ate everything, drank water in a tap and dug up all the potatoes in the garden. Everything prevents you from living, and the main Putin. But there will be no Putin - Ivanov, Sidorov, Uncle Vasya, Aunt Motya, etc. will interfere with you. .Always there is a man who is to blame for the fact that you do not have money, boots, toilet paper. Because you are so good, smart, hardworking - but the bloodsuckers do not allow you to live as you deserve!
                  Hear yourself
                  1. +9
                    11 May 2013 18: 13
                    The wretched will not cry forever. Someday their tears will dry. And then all self-satisfied and satisfied with power will pay.
                    1. avensis
                      0
                      11 May 2013 19: 02
                      Yes, of course, the kingdom of heaven will reign, and jelly rivers with milk banks will flow. I’ll try to clarify my idea even easier, especially for you - while you yourself sit on the ass and wait for everything to be brought to you on a silver platter, nothing will change. Try to slightly change your attitude towards life - nobody owes you anything, and the fact that you have something is not only your fault.
                  2. +16
                    11 May 2013 18: 26
                    I agree with you, we are worthy of the ruler whom we are worthy, we should not rely on someone else, I read how it all happened, how we surrendered the USSR, we all crap, we did not put Yeltsin in his place according to the constitution of the USSR, we did not put him in jail, we all crap, army, structures, there was an attempt to plant him, it did not work because everyone crap ... With the help of the State Department, the whole world later said that there were elections, such as fair, one Japan and several other states were not informed how to speak correctly, in their newspapers it was written "CAPTURE OF POWER, REVOLUTION" ((((((
                    1. -5
                      11 May 2013 23: 13
                      Did you understand what you said?
                  3. +1
                    11 May 2013 18: 35
                    Quote: avensis
                    And how tired you are - forever crying miserable,

                    The brains of you and your kind are wretched! negative
                    1. avensis
                      -2
                      11 May 2013 19: 07
                      Well, let's get on the personality. At you I see the mind chamber. When rednecks have no arguments, that's the only way in the dispute and they win. You won - enjoy
                      1. +8
                        11 May 2013 22: 09
                        Quote: avensis
                        When rednecks have no arguments, that's the only way in the dispute and they win.

                        Which of us cattle is a moot point. How many facts can you bring! You need at least a count on your head .......
                  4. Atlon
                    +12
                    11 May 2013 18: 50
                    Quote: avensis
                    There will always be someone who is to blame for the fact that you do not have money, boots, toilet paper.

                    They just have it all! And they cry, because they don’t let them go to the trough, and so I want it, again in the 90s! However, not everyone wants to go to the feeder. the majority, a crowd of brutal hamsters jerking off on Leshenka Navalny, who turns out to be tyril forest ... But this is Putin’s invention, right? Lesha, he is infallible, the Messiah! Handshake, and irresistible! Especially for you:
                    Masturbate!
                    1. +3
                      11 May 2013 22: 11
                      Quote: Atlon
                      And they cry because they’re not allowed to go to the trough,

                      That's your whole essence! For the feeding trough, you and your kind have sold your homeland! Do you look at the trough? Judging by your logic, it turns out that so! negative
                  5. +11
                    11 May 2013 19: 33
                    Apparently you yourself kill ... since you are writing such a heresy. And what do you think about those people who have graduated from a pedagogical, medical, technical university? People who are ill with their profession are honest in their nature and cannot be matched by such rotten power, which in turn strangles just such people. It turns out that everyone else encourages power, since they can adjust, it turns out that the rest of the people are the same thieves.

                    Here’s a living example for you, I’m a doctor and support my profession and I can’t adapt to this obscurantism, I don’t know how, naturally I will blame the authorities, all medveput there, yes, they got into my wallet, they are to blame for the small salary. But those who live well under this power, no better than the power itself, take an example from them, in general a thief and a bribe taker. It can be seen, look around the people and see who is standing next to you?
                    1. +7
                      11 May 2013 20: 45
                      OMEDB! I have nothing against doctors, teachers, etc. Let's talk about medicine ... God forbid, get free treatment. There is no money and that’s all, even though you’re here.
                      Tucks young man, where do we work? Tucks, good. Here is a list of examinations, medications, paid specialists ... Go. You have everything so neglected, we will treat you for a very long time. Do not worry cure. But it will cost a lot ....... I went to a couple of clinics, prices went up, diagnoses changed.
                      Everyone loves money. Only the difference in their quantity. The feeder has a lot of them, in other places in different ways. I do not argue, there is the fault of the government in everything. But if everyone turns on conscience at his workplace, at home, in society, then life in the country will change. To do this, you do not need to be a member of any party. Just be people!
                      1. +1
                        12 May 2013 19: 03
                        Quote: Yazov
                        But if everyone turns on conscience at his workplace, at home, in society, then life in the country will change. To do this, you do not need to be a member of any party. Just be people!

                        That’s right!
                    2. 0
                      11 May 2013 20: 45
                      OMEDB! I have nothing against doctors, teachers, etc. Let's talk about medicine ... God forbid, get free treatment. There is no money and that’s all, even though you’re here.
                      Tucks young man, where do we work? Tucks, good. Here is a list of examinations, medications, paid specialists ... Go. You have everything so neglected, we will treat you for a very long time. Do not worry cure. But it will cost a lot ....... I went to a couple of clinics, prices went up, diagnoses changed.
                      Everyone loves money. Only the difference in their quantity. The feeder has a lot of them, in other places in different ways. I do not argue, there is the fault of the government in everything. But if everyone turns on conscience at his workplace, at home, in society, then life in the country will change. To do this, you do not need to be a member of any party. Just be people!
                    3. nickname 1 and 2
                      0
                      11 May 2013 22: 03
                      Quote: OMEDB
                      Here’s a living example for you, I’m a doctor and support my profession and I can’t adapt to this obscurantism, I don’t know how, naturally I will blame the authorities,


                      And what do you want? What salary?
                      What should it be your way? After the institute immediately 300000r.?
                      I know a lot of people who the doctors ask for a word = where are they? I’ve been trying to get qualified honey for 15 years. help! But even in the USSR, I did not receive it. Miraculously survived. I hardly lost my leg. Not enough room to retell everything.
                      But in principle it seems to me that this is not a sufficient salary. But quite recently, scientists and academics had to "bomb" at night on a, m.
                      So what do you want = pike command?
                      Progress is on the face!

                      Interesting! When you ask the doctors a question = what’s the matter, why did you die? You answer = we are not gods! Are there gods in economics?
                      See what happens in the world. The crisis destroys not only people but also countries. Take it for you! Where will I get it? Where's the hosh!
                      1. +2
                        12 May 2013 19: 16
                        Quote: nick 1 and 2
                        And what do you want? What salary? What should it be your way? After the institute immediately 300000r.?

                        Yes, I see you are still a cynic, worse than any doctor ???
                        The salary should be commensurate with the work of man, it is clear that immediately after the institute the salary cannot be fabulous, but it should not be beggarly, I emphasize the word beggarly. Here is another example from my life, having come to work after the residency, my rate was 7000r. it was not so long ago 2004. Now I'm in the position of head. offices and my salary at the moment is 23000r. Well, where is justice ??? This is the highest degree of cynicism on the part of the government, that's why doctors take money, not everyone actually, but they take it.
                        Do you know what's the funniest thing? now in the yard 2013 2004 years have passed since 9, and the rate of the young doctor is exactly 8400 rubles. I hope you will have no further questions on the topic of doctors and take it out yes ???
                    4. +6
                      11 May 2013 23: 36
                      Quote: OMEDB
                      I am a doctor and support my profession


                      God give you patience and health in your hard work, the military know what doctors are
                  6. yak69
                    +7
                    11 May 2013 22: 26
                    Today, fans of GDP, DAM and their loyal associates are more than ever evil and active!
                    It is understandable, the holidays are coming to an end, vodka has been drunk (for Putin's health!), The meat has been eaten, soon to work - to praise the new "labor" feats of GDP and its nano-government.
                    "We don't need the sun, the party (EP) is shining for us!
                    We don’t need bread, let's work (we will continue to love GDP!) "
                    Your loyalty (Putin fans) is worthy of respect and all praise. BUT, it will be interesting to see you all when the power in the country changes and the real savior of the fatherland comes and sends all of these today to prison and holds an open trial, and the crimes of those who are in power today and about which you cannot even think will be made public . And it will be shown and proved with what cynicism, cold calculation and soullessness these citizens act!
                    Will you be ashamed? What do you say then? What did they say, were mistaken, did not make out? So what? Or are you just quietly hiding in the bushes and holes ?!

                    However, no. You will not hide. You will sit quietly for a couple of months, and then you will sound the laudatory song of the new government! And so you will always do. You are simply loving, you love ALL rulers, because they are POWER!
                    Now I understand you - you just love power.
                    And the authorities love you. It is convenient, safe and profitable!
                    Glory to those who love Putin! Your glory is immortal, it is for all time!
                    1. nickname 1 and 2
                      +2
                      11 May 2013 22: 48
                      Quote: yak69
                      Your loyalty (Putin fans) is worthy of respect and all praise. BUT, it will be interesting to see you all when the power in the country changes and the real savior of the fatherland comes and


                      And there are no fans! There are opponents of radical measures! Our opinion will never reach your ears. We are FOR - the savior of the fatherland!
                      Where is he?
                      You are AGAINST Putin, and ANYONE just not Putin!
                      And we - ANY BETTER PUTIN? Yes, even tomorrow!
                      But just not like Humpbacked and like Yelkin!
                      1. yak69
                        +4
                        11 May 2013 23: 00
                        Quote: nick 1 and 2
                        There are opponents of radical measures!

                        I am also against radicalism, BUT, I am tired of repeating - there are those who can become a worthy leader, BUT it is the current authorities who do not let them there. I'm not talking about the "swamp", bulk and German. I'm talking about others. And the names have already been called and those who work in the power structures know them (thank God, not everything is still in the power of the scum).
                        And one thing I can say for sure - who votes for Putin, he votes for Medvedev (as the prime minister), for Lebanon, Serdyukov, Chubais (because Putin appoints them all to their posts!).
                      2. nickname 1 and 2
                        0
                        11 May 2013 23: 56
                        Quote: yak69
                        BUT, tired of repeating already


                        And I'm not tired and I will not tire of repeating = show!
                        Well, list a few names, at least!

                        Glazyev - an outstanding one already works in Putin’s team!
                        The awl in the bag can not be hidden!
                        It would be a sensible offer and not bullshit = no suicides. Putin would have been at the helm for a long time.
                        Putin says - for example, Kudrin (live), we had to throw money with what you insisted on! It was? It was!
                        And your Clintonsha will sit in a chair = SHE WILL APPOINT SUCH SAME ........
                        If all over the world .op in the economy, if no one knows how to do it, BUT EVERYONE SAYS WHAT TO DO.
                      3. yak69
                        +3
                        12 May 2013 00: 18
                        Quote: nick 1 and 2
                        And your Clintonsha will sit in a chair = SHE WILL APPOINT SUCH SAME ........

                        Well, that’s all with you (Putin’s fans) and ends! Scream, hysteria, accusations of all sins. That’s all you can. If you are interested in specific names and specific offers, you can read past comments, everything is there. But, the fact is that you do not need specifics, you need the hysteria and hosanna of the current government. You (fans) are not capable of constructive dialogue, therefore it is extremely difficult to communicate with you all.
                      4. nickname 1 and 2
                        -3
                        12 May 2013 12: 15
                        Quote: yak69
                        Well, that’s all with you (Putin’s fans) and ends! Scream, hysteria, accusations of all sins. That’s all you can.


                        Do you have Kvachkov or something? How can you take seriously a person who is engaged in the organization of some kind of education that is similar not only to some kind of patriotic but also paramilitary?
                        If you do not understand such "trifles", then how can you lead the country?
                        It’s the same as in chess: a child’s checkmate and a grandmaster game!
                    2. yak69
                      +3
                      11 May 2013 22: 53
                      In order to criticize the government, one must have a sober, objective view, have constructive proposals, have a conscience and own dignity. And the vast majority of Putin’s supporters have neither one nor the other, nor the third. But there is blind love for him, limitless groveling - thank Putin !!, and a desire to destroy those who disagree with Putin.

                      Once again I am convinced that we cannot avoid "showdowns".
                      And I would not want to .....
                      1. nickname 1 and 2
                        0
                        11 May 2013 23: 19
                        Quote: yak69
                        Once again I am convinced that we cannot avoid "showdowns".
                        But I would not want to ....


                        Who will you be?
                        On the Victory Day holiday! Are you threatening us?

                        The legal way! and not legal - were already desperate
                      2. yak69
                        +1
                        11 May 2013 23: 52
                        Quote: nick 1 and 2
                        Who will you be?
                        On the Victory Day holiday! Are you threatening us?

                        The first one. Not YOU, but YOU!
                        The second one. Only bullies and hooligans can see the threat where it is not there.
                        Third. I made an ASSUMPTION based on obvious and UNIQUE facts. And if you, dear, perceived them as a threat, then this once again speaks of the imbalance that is a characteristic feature of Putin's fans. You (Putin's admirers) just "pull out a saber!"
                        And if "showdowns" happen, then it will be the fans of the current government that will start them - out of fear ...
                      3. nickname 1 and 2
                        +1
                        12 May 2013 00: 23
                        Quote: yak69
                        And if "showdowns" happen, then it will be the fans of the current government who will start them - out of fear ...


                        No need to provoke.
                        And we (or rather) I do not jerk. I already said = there will be a sensible presidential candidate, I will vote FOR.
                        But I will vote! But when there are elections! And there is nothing to frighten me in advance with "showdowns"!
                        Do not count your chickens before they are hatched!
                        "Autumn" will come, let's see the results!
                      4. yak69
                        +2
                        12 May 2013 00: 50
                        Quote: nick 1 and 2
                        Do not count your chickens before they are hatched!
                        "Autumn" will come, let's see the results!

                        Autumn has passed! And not one, but as many as 9! And every day we admire the results - Serdyukov, Fursenko, Kudrin, Vasiliev, hermit, Chubais, Lebanons ... and on the other hand - Kvachkov, Khabarov!
                        I don’t feel like continuing .... it's useless ..
                      5. Anti
                        0
                        12 May 2013 00: 30
                        Not fans, but supporters. You are a handful, you are seditious. All the same, GDP is right for the Sarti account.
                      6. yak69
                        +3
                        12 May 2013 01: 01
                        Quote: Anti
                        Not fans, but supporters. You are a handful, you are seditious. All the same, GDP is right for the Sarti account.

                        You are not even fans and supporters, you are FANS of Putin!
                        About a handful, here you are mistaken. This is you, a handful of Putin fans, and the vast majority of those who do not agree with his policies.
                        And you once again confirmed your fanaticism (with its characteristic radicalism) with your hint about the "toilet". It is you, Putin's fans, who are ready to destroy those who disagree with him. And it is you who want bloody "showdowns", and not those who want a normal life and honest leaders of the country!
                      7. 0
                        12 May 2013 01: 17
                        Quote: yak69
                        those who want a normal life and honest leaders of the country!

                        So justify your position, and we'll see if you can offer something practical ... Ah, then everything slips down to you pouring dirt on everyone and everything. Indicate the way. It is always easy to criticize, and you tell me how to make everything good.
                      8. yak69
                        0
                        12 May 2013 01: 35
                        Quote: Allex28
                        So justify your position, and we'll see if you can offer something practical.

                        Dear Allex28, well, what will I repeat the same thing every time? In many of my past comments, I have already described some very specific proposals. Why waste time in vain - read, everything is there.
                        To describe as a whole (in the main areas it will take a lot of time, and this is not a small work). If you are interested in some particular areas - ask a clear question, I will answer.
                        And, as a rule, I accompany my criticism with arguments and suggestions, so it’s even surprising to me to hear such reproaches.

                        And I’m not watering anybody with mud, it’s you very much in vain.
                      9. +1
                        12 May 2013 01: 46
                        Quote: yak69
                        in some particular areas - ask a clear question

                        Here's a specific question for you: What do you think needs to be done to reduce corruption (it’s impossible to completely eradicate it, life has proved it). Not to offer, dismiss, shoot (all officials).
                      10. yak69
                        +2
                        12 May 2013 02: 06
                        Quote: Allex28
                        What do you think needs to be done to reduce corruption (

                        Already wrote, but for you again. Corruption will be stopped by the adoption of the law on MANDATORY DISCLOSURE OF THE SOURCE OF ORIGIN (AND ANY CAPITAL) AND CONFISCATION OF PROPERTY (in case of proof of guilt). Today, an official is obliged ONLY to show HOW MUCH AND WHAT he has, without explanation WHERE FROM.
                        And this question "WHERE IS THE MONEY?" all embezzlers are more afraid of death.
                        Soviet and world practice (in America everyone is obliged to explain the origin of capital) has proved the highest efficiency of this rule of law.
                        Well, the planting of those guilty of embezzlement should be harsh. Corruption and embezzlement are grave crimes, compare treason to the homeland and banditry.
                      11. +1
                        12 May 2013 02: 55
                        Quote: yak69
                        Already wrote, but for you I will repeat

                        With both hands FOR, BUT: in reality, this is not realizable
                        Quote: yak69
                        Soviet and world practice (in America everyone is obliged to explain the origin of capital) has proved the highest efficiency of this rule of law.

                        From the proven episodes: Kohl, Sarkozy, Mitterrand, Berlusconi, Bush (two) Who sat down? He washes his hand. A vicious circle is obtained. The list can be continued indefinitely ....
                      12. +2
                        12 May 2013 02: 03
                        Quote: Allex28
                        So justify your position

                        What rationales do you demand all the time? Justification that the thief should be in prison and not in apartments under house arrest? What election fraudsters should go to trial? Is privatization of state property essentially criminal? What justification for criticizing the authorities do you need? Specifically, what do you want to hear as a justification for our position?
                        Quote: Allex28
                        and we’ll see if you can offer something practical.
                        And who gave you the right to determine what is efficient and what is not? Maybe the case of the Serdyukovs, Fursenko-Livanovs, Skrynnik-Chubaisov is "efficient"? The cases of your idols will still become criminal, give a term. And we will definitely give you a term, each according to the degree of the stolen.
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Specify the path.

                        Please:
                        volkan (3) August 29, 2012 10:19 ↑
                        Well, let's estimate.
                        Private property is inviolable with the exception of mining companies.
                        The state should be based on social equality and justice.
                        The rule of law over all without exception
                        Spiritually developed society.
                        No country has the right to interfere in the internal affairs of another country.
                        Cancellation of military blocs, primarily NATO
                        Elimination of international financial institutions and transnational corporations
                        The reorientation of human society from the cult of consumption to the conservation of the planet and its resources.
                        redirecting scientific and technical efforts from the military-industrial to space exploration
                        The transition from "pseudo-democracies" to a more equitable form of existence of society and the state (here you have to think, of course)
                        To unite world efforts in the struggle for the conservation of the nature of the Earth
                        Together, to defeat hunger and drinking water shortages.
                        Go to alternative sources of energy and leave mother earth alone. Stop tearing her up.
                        Give every person on Earth a guaranteed right to a medical, educational and household minimum. And this minimum should be sufficient for the normal existence of man.
                        In every possible way to develop tolerance and suppress attempts at religious conflicts
                        Eliminate international tribunals as witch hunters. Each country must condemn its perpetrators on its own.
                        Eliminate or Reorganize the UN (it is currently a completely dead organization)
                        Prohibit in the world of gay lesbians and similar perverts.
                        And at state levels to recognize that this is a perversion.
                        Preserve the ethno-cultural identity of each people of this person
                        stop global migration flows and prevent assimilation.
                        The world is still good for its diversity.
                        The leading countries should make efforts to raise the standard of living of third countries to the global one.

                        Well, something like this .... maybe I forgot something, but offhand here.
                      13. 0
                        12 May 2013 02: 19
                        Quote: Normal
                        Well, something like this .... maybe I forgot something, but offhand here.

                        The main thing: Let us now (at least theoretically) implement some thesis well, for example ...
                        Quote: Normal
                        Cancellation of military blocs, primarily NATO

                        By default, you are the president of Russia.
                      14. +3
                        12 May 2013 16: 37
                        Quote: Allex28
                        By default, you are the president of Russia.

                        Firstly, theses are not mine and the author is indicated.
                        Secondly, are you against it?
                        Thirdly, you are asking, I give one of many answers. Your objections, please. Just don’t: "There is no alternative to Putin", "All who are against Putin are supported by the State Department" and the like. Hasn't worked for a long time.
                        Who is stopping GDP from pursuing a policy to destroy the NATO bloc? WHO? Who is stopping Putin from deploying a large-scale propaganda campaign against the NATO bloc? Enough material. Who is stopping Putin from realizing at least one of the points proposed by Volkanom? Again, say that he will be removed? Well, let it be removed if it is not able to move forward with the country. And there is always someone to steal in our country, here Putin has hundreds of alternatives.
                        Quote: Allex28
                        By default, you are the president of Russia.

                        In any case, Serdyukov, Chubais, Dvorkovich, Ratenberg, Ousman, Zhirinovsky, Abramovich, and other scum in power and economy will not be with me. And from me you will not hear that misuse of a couple of billions is not theft.
                        Fourth. You have not answered
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Specifically, what do you want to hear as a justification for our position?
                      15. -1
                        12 May 2013 18: 54
                        Quote: Normal
                        Secondly, are you against it?

                        Neither god nor two hands FOR!
                        Quote: Normal
                        Who is stopping GDP from pursuing a policy to destroy the NATO bloc? WHO? Who is stopping Putin from deploying a large-scale propaganda campaign against the NATO bloc? Enough material.

                        In my opinion, he is busy in the dense.
                        Quote: Normal
                        Specifically, what do you want to hear as a justification for our position?

                        Specifically, I want to hear: Nothing to do, but how to do it. And then only everyone says, but from the chatter you yourself know nothing.
                      16. +5
                        12 May 2013 20: 26
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Neither god nor two hands FOR!

                        Oh well ...
                        And in my opinion you are two-handed for GDP, and he is two-handed for paid education and medicine, for the second wave of privatization, for replacing the Russian ethnic group with migrants from Central Asia, for the prosperity of a handful of oligarchs, and so on on the list. Or again, all this happens against his will? Well then, all the more there is nothing for him to do in the presidential chair, if all of the above happens, and he is unable to resist it.
                        Quote: Allex28
                        In my opinion, he is busy in the dense.

                        ???? Where, when and how? Is it possible that they did not supply air defense systems to Syria?
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Specifically, I want to hear: Nothing to do, but how to do it. And then only everyone says, but from the chatter you yourself know nothing.

                        How to do? Yes, just do not protect the thief. To appoint not Nabiulina, but Glazyev. Investing not in the American economy, but in your agriculture and production. Yes, a thousand times it is written to you what and how. And in response, just the chatter from which the sense of zero. Just recently, the Great One chatted for several hours and didn’t do anything, but he didn’t say anything. It turns out that the president must explain what, and most importantly, how to do it. And he will have fun with cranes ...
                        I remember we already had a king-father, who knew how only to chop wood, shoot a raven, and take care of his family. Waiting for a repeat? ...
                      17. Anti
                        0
                        12 May 2013 01: 18
                        Quote: yak69
                        You are not even fans and supporters, you are FANS of Putin!
                        About a handful, here you are mistaken. This is you, a handful of Putin fans, and the vast majority of those who do not agree with his policies.
                        And you once again confirmed your fanaticism (with its characteristic radicalism) with your hint about the "toilet". It is you, Putin's fans, who are ready to destroy those who disagree with him. And it is you who want bloody "showdowns", and not those who want a normal life and honest leaders of countries

                        And, the normal definition of Fanatics, I am not against and to the point of fanaticism I am ready to make any efforts, if only the Gorbachev Yeltsins and the like did not come to power again. We, all of Russia, you are a handful. People are finally beginning to work and live normally, and people like you are always not happy with something. It is people like you who push peaceful "fans" to radicalism.
                      18. yak69
                        +2
                        12 May 2013 01: 26
                        Quote: Anti
                        It is people like you who push peaceful "fans" to radicalism.

                        Shine !! Well what can I say! Master of the pun! He hinted about the outhouses and immediately blamed me for everything!
                        Well, master !! laughing
                      19. -2
                        12 May 2013 01: 38
                        Quote: yak69
                        Well, master !! laughing

                        But in vain you laugh, they correctly pointed out to you:
                        Quote: yak69
                        People are finally beginning to work and live normally, and people like you are always not happy with something. It is people like you who push the peaceful "fans" to radicalism.

                        I will tell you a little "secret": There is nothing behind your ideology request it’s empty, just a whining, you didn’t do anything in this life, like you were whining from the late 80s, you are whining, but to do something, no, you need to act here ......
                      20. +2
                        12 May 2013 02: 10
                        Quote: Allex28
                        , one nagging, you didn’t do anything in this life, like you were whining from the late 80s, you are whining, but to do something, no, you need to act right there ......

                        In-in! That is what Chubais said when he pushed through his version of privatization. That is how the thief justifies his actions, blaming the inaction of those who do not steal.
                      21. yak69
                        0
                        12 May 2013 02: 18
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Behind your ideology there is nothing that request is empty, just nagging, but you haven’t done anything in this life, like you were whining since the late 80s, but you have to do something, no, you need to act here .... ..

                        The first one. To talk about MY ideology, you first need to know it.
                        The second one. Have you known ME since the end of the 80s ?! Can you judge what I have done in my life ?!
                        Once again I was convinced of the frantic rhetoric of Putin's fanatics and I will try more not to react to YOU ​​(fans).
                        Constructive dialogue with fans is not possible a priori. Leopard change his spots!
                      22. 0
                        12 May 2013 02: 36
                        Quote: yak69
                        Constructive dialogue with fans is not possible a priori. Leopard change his spots!

                        Well, that's all your constructivism request I’ve already written to you, suggest something, implement it (at least theoretically), and maybe they will pick it up (if there is something practical). I think I don’t understand that being in power for one person for such a long time may have consequences, but I don’t see an alternative. Well, we have no opposition, NO request
                  7. +1
                    11 May 2013 23: 57
                    avensis, Russia do more harm to people like you. Who have one principle of worship of the current Fuhrer: If not Putin (Medvedev, Putin, Yeltsin, Gorbachev ...) then who? You are afraid of change. You are satisfied with your bowl of balance and the length of the chain on which you sit. Thanks to people like you, in Russia there is no change of power. Elections in the country do not depend on the will of the people, but on the wizard who has the key to the box into which ballots are poured.
                    Putin’s master is pushing everyone’s foreheads and remaining clean, as he believes, in the eyes of the people. Now the Fuhrer has launched a massive attack on Medvedev. And all sins are blamed on him. But is it really not clear that this is a clan struggle for spheres of influence. Upstairs, everything has been counted for a long time. Putin himself created the current system, and naive hamsters think that he wants to break this system. It’s not Medvedev who needs to get rid of, the Fuhrer has long been called to account.
                    1. nickname 1 and 2
                      0
                      12 May 2013 00: 42
                      Quote: Kombitor
                      then who? You are afraid of change. You are satisfied with your bowl of balance and the length of the chain on which you sit. Thanks to people like you, in Russia there is no change of power.


                      Not! We are not afraid. Do not allow stupid changes.
                      The collapse of the country is not allowed! You need muddy water! catch a fish? No, it's not convenient for you to steal
                      Quote: Kombitor
                      the Fuhrer has long been time to answer

                      who loves his country will not call his president - the Fuhrer.
                      1. yak69
                        0
                        12 May 2013 01: 22
                        Quote: nick 1 and 2
                        who loves his country will not call his president - the Fuhrer.

                        Mom darling! And then the fanatic of Putin could not keep silent - like a lion rushed in defense of his master!
                        Good boy !! (get the candy later)
                        And this is especially for you, dear (to broaden your horizons):
                        [I]Führer (German: Führer) - a German word meaning "leader", "leader", "leader" [/I]
                      2. -1
                        12 May 2013 01: 31
                        Quote: yak69
                        And this is especially for you, dear (to broaden your horizons):
                        Führer (German: Führer) - a German word meaning "leader", "leader", "leader"

                        you would broaden your horizons. Well, at least that means swastika
                        but you try to blaspheme it openly. and somewhere else in Israel and in many European countries.
                      3. yak69
                        +3
                        12 May 2013 01: 53
                        Quote: lewerlin53rus
                        you would broaden your horizons. Well, at least that means a swastika

                        And what does the swastika have to do with it ?! Nonsense! Did I say something about the swastika ?! Rave!!
                        Take a business card from any German company director or entrepreneur and read - Fuhrer, this is the boss and this is the usual German word. There is nothing reprehensible in him.
                        Now, specially for you, dear:
                        Swastika (symbol “卐” or “卍”, Skt. स्वस्तिक from स्वस्ति [1], swastika - greeting, good luck, prosperity) - a cross with curved ends (“rotating”), directed either clockwise or against it. Swastika is one of the most ancient and widespread graphic symbols. "The swastika symbol crystallizes from a rhombus-meander ornament that first appeared in the Upper Paleolithic, and then inherited by almost all the peoples of the world."
                        Have you ever seen an Indian ship? So, they always have a swastika on board. This Indian "invention" and the fact that it was used by the fascists does not negate its use in Indian religious rituals. Or Indians, in your opinion, are also followers of Hitler?
                        Everything in Putin’s fanatics has mixed up in your head! You all have such vulnerable vanity, you see an insult to yourself in all words.
                        This is called excessive self-esteem or megalomania.
                        Some sort of spring paranoia swept all fans of Putin. Togo and look to start biting!
                      4. Anti
                        -1
                        12 May 2013 01: 38
                        Quote: yak69
                        Führer (German: Führer) - a German word meaning "leader", "leader", "leader"


                        And this is especially for you, dear, to broaden your horizons)))))

                        FUHER - FURHER, a, husband. In fascist organizations: leader. | adj. Führer, ouch, ouch. Explanatory Dictionary Ozhegova. S.I. Ozhegov, N.Yu. Shvedova.

                        Fuhrer - a; m. Unapproved. Leader, leader. Great Dictionary of Russian language. 1st ed.: St. Petersburg: Norint. S. A. Kuznetsov

                        Fuhrer - m. Leader (in a fascist organization). Explanatory Dictionary of Ephraim. T.F. Efremova
                      5. 0
                        12 May 2013 01: 59
                        <nicknames 1 and 2: those who love their country will not call their president - Fuhrer.>
                        I understand your zeal to protect your master. Just do not stick to yourself others. GDP is not my president. And my country - Russia - I can not identify with a person by the name of Putin. For me, GDP is the Führer, followed by a gray mass of hamsters, which he uses for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and which he consumes as he needs his stomach.
                2. Shawnee
                  +7
                  11 May 2013 17: 48

                  The Russian system is organized in the opposite way: anyone can be the president, even Labrador Koni, but there is only one voter in it - V.V. Putin
                  http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/788102/

                3. +3
                  11 May 2013 17: 50
                  tro-lo-lo ...
                  1. Shawnee
                    +11
                    11 May 2013 18: 04
                    The little problem is that the country headed by Putin now is very different from the country he headed in 1999. The balance of the Pension Fund with the existing retirement age does not converge; the budget will cease to converge when oil prices are below $ 120 per barrel. The rich are being squeezed out in offices; the poor are crushed by Mercedes right in the streets. All government projects - from Skolkovo to Sochi - are exclusively cut grandmas.
                    1. +2
                      12 May 2013 00: 52
                      Something I have not visited the site for a long time. and now he came in and was surprised how many hamsters are here. some liberals. strange, but it looks like from the anti-Russian sites such as echoes, all the ships piled on. all offended here. omitted. and if you look at everyone who writes here, everyone probably has houses, apartments, cars and children in universities. most likely here are Muscovites who take away the feeder. after the 90s, I thank Putin that we are now on the periphery can not eat potatoes and mashed potatoes, but to eat and live normally for me and my three children. and you tell me who is better than Putin now. and why you have not seen the transformation since 2000. Yes, because in the 90s it was better for you to catch in troubled waters. and you better go to the echo site. but for those who are especially stupid, I’ll say that there isn’t and wasn’t anywhere ideal power, in any country. many always do not like something, because he is not at the helm. begin with yourself liberalists.
                4. +2
                  11 May 2013 19: 50
                  ,, How are you already tired, defenders of this corrupt, corrupt government! ,,

                  Any power in the country, be it perfect, whoever is not satisfied. There will surely be people who in any power find corrupt ones, thieves, traitors, snickering, blue, etc.
                  Whoever can name the ideal power in Russia, the ideal leader? Any examples?
                  And according to Serdyukov he even very accessible explained to everyone, there will be a court, he (the court) will figure it out. Wait and see.
                5. hot
                  hot
                  +1
                  11 May 2013 20: 51
                  ENGLISH, You haven’t messed up the site for an hour. Go to the Echo, there are such dofiga. Discuss with them. You even see the bloody Putin’s hand in the eclipse of the sun. Go better work for the good of the motherland. How are you different from Medvedev? Nemtsov's presidency? That's who the country then shit at the time.
                  1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
                    +2
                    11 May 2013 23: 23
                    This, by the way, is a military review site and not a Medveputovsky’s fake site, maybe you’ve got it wrong? ....
                6. nickname 1 and 2
                  -2
                  12 May 2013 11: 55
                  Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
                  How are you already tired, defenders of this corrupt, corrupt government


                  And how do you like? How many% of the population voted FOR Putin?
                  If another time the percentage will be your candidate, then we will criticize WE - YOU!

                  And we react so energetically only because we do not want any coups. The power does not capture those who organized it. HISTORY!!!!! fool
              2. +29
                11 May 2013 13: 05
                So you want to say that Putin did not bring Medvedev and Serdyukov ????
                1. +1
                  11 May 2013 19: 29
                  people deteriorate from omnipotence, remember a fairy tale - a parable about a dragon ... to stati-Putin there is still trust ... so far well done.
                  1. 0
                    12 May 2013 14: 18
                    What kind of trust in Putin ??? He still has only one weighty argument-opposition trust even less.
                2. nickname 1 and 2
                  -5
                  11 May 2013 22: 28
                  Quote: mehanik27
                  So you want to say that Putin did not bring Medvedev and Serdyukov ????


                  I wanted the best! It turned out as always!

                  Do you know those (those) who are not mistaken?
                  Or maybe you think if Putin leaves then another will come who will not be mistaken?
                  Why such confidence?
                  1. +3
                    11 May 2013 23: 42
                    Quote: nick 1 and 2
                    Do you know those (those) who are not mistaken?

                    Useless argument, as it is written - do not rely on the prince of the son of man
                  2. +2
                    12 May 2013 14: 20
                    Something he has this Wishlist is too long. There are no people who are not mistaken, but he does nothing to correct his mistakes. He leads whom he leads, and, as I think, they’ll still do what they want, but he only smiles radiantly modestly. This means most likely these are not mistakes, but all with his tacit consent.
              3. Net
                Net
                +42
                11 May 2013 13: 15
                But I, until I hear a really sane version that how does it turn out Putin is a fine fellow, but his DIRECT subordinates are doing the devil knows what, being appointed by him, being put into power by him, I will consider that everything is not so simple with Putin. Where is Chubais and where is Kvachkov? There are a lot of questions and they are all unanswered. And yes, we are often sarcastically sarcastic by the liberal community saying, "Well, the king is good, the boyars are bad?" But to the point, no matter how bitter it is? And this is really ironic, because it is hard to believe that now Putin is confronted by another powerful "Trotskyist bloc". He is the Boss in the Kremlin, for a long time, and answering a question in communication with the people, about admitting his own mistakes, he replied that he would not remember such mistakes, otherwise of course he would immediately admit and apologize. That is, the appointment, for example, of Anatoly Eduardovich (who by the way, too, funny as it may seem, turns out to be good, and the subordinates are thieves!) He does not consider a mistake! Well, yes, billions were stolen, but he carried out the reform! Interestingly, in state corporations, the same is the personnel policy? Putin, like that Borshchov, seems to have screwed up on the job, but in general it can be praised ... for the chivalrous attitude towards ladies.
                1. +16
                  11 May 2013 13: 29
                  I absolutely agree with you. And it turns out the absurdity and the opposition is disgusting and the authorities aren’t cute. I don’t really want to discuss this ... As white-tape people hang out on Yekhe Matsy and they see Nashi and Putinists in everyone with a different opinion, so here the main part is a hamster, fed on a stream of lies from our media ....
                  1. +3
                    11 May 2013 23: 49
                    Quote: mehanik27
                    a hamster fed on a stream of lies from our media ..


                    You print, we pay, the oldest profession
                2. +4
                  11 May 2013 13: 49
                  Watch the videos of Yevgeny Fedorov on YouTube.
                  there, the answer to your question is given in detail. In short, the reason is the lack of sovereignty in Russia since 1991.
                  1. RSNV.
                    -5
                    11 May 2013 16: 21
                    I looked. A waste of time, it’s better to go to the circus ...
                  2. +6
                    11 May 2013 18: 37
                    Quote: liteha
                    Watch the videos of Yevgeny Fedorov on YouTube.

                    This is a clown in the service of the GDP!
                3. +11
                  11 May 2013 17: 23
                  Well said!
                  And this is - "For example," in pursuance of decrees, "it requires universities to raise teachers' salaries without allocating the necessary funds for this, and at the same time it makes them increase the load on teachers and initiates their mass layoffs."
                  Reminds Medvedev's struggle with real and "not real" milk, and together with it, remember this - "Russians should trade in Russian bazaars, not dealers from the Caucasus" - as they say the lesson has not been completed - "2"
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                5. Rainman69
                  -6
                  11 May 2013 21: 11
                  Dear, and you forgive me from which country write here? there is too much of you with such a flag and the designation SU ... you are clearly not writing from Russia !! Friends, look at other comments, there is clearly infobross, a bunch of hirelings trolls from another country work ...
                  Quote: Netto
                  But I, until I hear a really sane version that how does it turn out Putin is a fine fellow, but his DIRECT subordinates are doing the devil knows what, being appointed by him, being put into power by him, I will consider that everything is not so simple with Putin. Where is Chubais and where is Kvachkov? There are a lot of questions and they are all unanswered. And yes, we are often sarcastically sarcastic by the liberal community saying, "Well, the king is good, the boyars are bad?" But to the point, no matter how bitter it is? And this is really ironic, because it is hard to believe that now Putin is confronted by another powerful "Trotskyist bloc". He is the Boss in the Kremlin, for a long time, and answering a question in communication with the people, about admitting his own mistakes, he replied that he would not remember such mistakes, otherwise of course he would immediately admit and apologize. That is, the appointment, for example, of Anatoly Eduardovich (who by the way, too, funny as it may seem, turns out to be good, and the subordinates are thieves!) He does not consider a mistake! Well, yes, billions were stolen, but he carried out the reform! Interestingly, in state corporations, the same is the personnel policy? Putin, like that Borshchov, seems to have screwed up on the job, but in general it can be praised ... for the chivalrous attitude towards ladies.

              4. +5
                11 May 2013 18: 05
                Quote: Atlon
                To spoil you personally

                Yes, he has already spoiled all the people!
                Quote: Atlon
                How tired you are, defenders of this corrupt, corrupt government!

                That's for sure! I’ll post a video too, let the people admire .......
              5. +2
                11 May 2013 23: 51
                г
                Quote: Atlon
                To spoil you personally, steal all your money, and drink the blood of your children


                Russia ranks first among all countries in the world in the consumption of heroin, accounting for 21% of all heroin produced in the world and 5% of all opium-containing drugs. This is stated in a report published on the eve of Vienna, "Drug Addiction, Crime and the Rebel Movement: The Threat of Transition of Opium from Afghanistan."
            2. Rainman69
              -21
              11 May 2013 15: 44
              "let's add: Serdyukov's goal was to destroy the army (successfully implemented)"
              "Livanov's goal is to bury education (successfully implemented)"

              - forgive me for what parameters do you judge, "respected expert"? The army is developing successfully, but it was not Serdyukov who ditched it, they ditched it back in the early 90s, and this impulse has reached our days, until that time and there was no money to re-equip the army with high quality, now that kind of money is 23 trillion rubles until 2020, all contracts signed, the equipment goes to the troops, ships and strategic nuclear submarines come out like cakes ... ENOUGH TO BE A SCHOOLBOY, if you are not in the know, it is better to just be silent ...

              - further education ... What is wrong with him? Well, I have absolutely everyone familiar with higher education, and even with two or three ... you do not like the exam, but what's bad about it ??? The usual assessment of knowledge, if you do not know you will never pass the exam, no matter how you tried. The exam was introduced in order not to take exams twice, first at school for graduation, then entrance to the university, this is a stamp and a bureaucracy, as well as corruption in universities ...
            3. alx104
              +16
              11 May 2013 16: 01
              Serdyukov and Medvedev - one gang. What Medvedev did not know, what Serdyukov did in the army, he knew. And now, when they messed up with the defense service, Serdyukov seemed to have nothing to do with it, because the Bear was involved here, and maybe, most likely, who is taller. Drive Pitertsev from Moscow need to drive.
              1. +6
                11 May 2013 18: 02
                Quote: alx104
                Serdyukov and Medvedev - one gang

                Have you forgotten anyone?
              2. -5
                11 May 2013 20: 23
                alx104! Come on! Drive everyone! Once again a revolution? So maybe stop shaking Russia? Since 1005, the country has been sausage, but not one state can not stand this. To drive! Down with!
                They said the court will sort it out. Let's see what the court will be, how it will pass, what the consequences will be. We'll see....
              3. NOBODY EXCEPT US
                -1
                11 May 2013 23: 30
                It’s necessary to drive St. Petersburg to us, we ourselves mustache, we can handle it somehow, but the redhead is also St. Petersburg, so the gang has gathered ..
                1. +1
                  12 May 2013 01: 37
                  Come on, St. Petersburg to St. Petersburg, Moscow to Moscow, and Zadrishchensky also back to Gadyukino. Divide the country. Realize the main American dream.
            4. +3
              11 May 2013 17: 52
              This is his goal, and what’s yours, you can’t even tell, and so everything is clear ...
            5. KOMPLEKT
              0
              11 May 2013 20: 17
              Quote: Patriot of Russia
              very interesting is the goal of their daddy Putler

              futile attempts to avoid the fate of nicholas second
            6. 0
              11 May 2013 21: 23
              Coordinator.
            7. -5
              11 May 2013 21: 24
              Quote: Patriot of Russia
              very interesting is the goal of their daddy Putler


              It’s clear what your purpose is.
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            9. calm
              +1
              12 May 2013 03: 49
              and you are probably very good at understanding the army), at the moment, Rosaviaremont is completely crammed by the ability of our industry, right now the people from the OCRM work there (real patriots), and believe me, they work like horses (and there’s an average age of 60), and that’s not the only example ... and you probably just work in the office, but you better know about the collapse of the Ministry of Defense)
          2. rks5317
            +11
            11 May 2013 14: 54
            But who will drive them then. If they are FAMILY? ... Only WE. Having picked up something ...
            1. TekhnarMAF
              +1
              11 May 2013 16: 23
              And something is what?
            2. +10
              11 May 2013 16: 42
              rks5317
              Yeah, let's unleash a civil war in the country ... it’s kind of dull to live without it ... for some ... here you are, on the ruins of the country everything will be fine with us !!! Do you even understand. what are you calling for?
            3. nickname 1 and 2
              0
              11 May 2013 23: 10
              Quote: rks5317
              But who will drive them then. If they are FAMILY? ... Only WE. Having picked up something ...


              The ass is that below the navel.
          3. +4
            11 May 2013 20: 14
            How many want to lick the fifth point of Putin !!!
            Is anyone else going on this get along?
          4. -1
            12 May 2013 07: 53
            Nikolay S. RU "The sooner Medved and his entire gang are chased, the better"
            --------------------------------------------------
            I have written about this several times here - this is an outright ENEMY of Russia! Only it is not enough to drive him and his gang away - all of them must be JUDGED! And the fact that Putin is "pulling" with the solution of this issue does not speak in his favor, thank God, it becomes clear to many ...
          5. 0
            13 May 2013 15: 46
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            The sooner Medved with his entire gang will be driven, the better.


            It is, of course, so ... but .. who will replace? Literate people who are rooting for the country are not allowed to come to power for a cannon shot, and all other "contenders for power" and their struggle with the "Putin regime" are very much reminiscent (and such is in fact) a fight for access to a feeding trough ...
        2. Reasonable, 2,3
          -5
          11 May 2013 15: 52
          Well, a narrow-minded person Medvedev. All the same, he sits under the "vovka". to preserve this situation.
      2. rolik
        +26
        11 May 2013 11: 05
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        then why doesn’t he remove the prime minister?

        According to forecasts, and not only ours, financial analysts. GDP growth at the end of the year will be 1.8%, with 3.8% promised by the Cabinet. And then, I think, the Kinderphone will resign along with the entire (almost all) cabinet. Because GDP, to dismiss him now in the absence of obvious stocks, is to admit his big mistake. Although, if he did so, we would understand that, with great approval of this step. Remember when the Stool was kicked out, it was possible to declare a holiday in the country, so everyone was happy about it. When this VanDAM clown is ousted, the joy of the people will be no less.
      3. +15
        11 May 2013 11: 12
        those. Did you not like the security measures at the mass event? People who have a brain understand that 30 minutes in the queue is not the price for not being blown up by some kind of chuchmek yelling "Alla I'm in the bar!" And the military-industrial complex develops .. so what should he develop ?? trading in iPhones ??
        1. patline
          +10
          11 May 2013 11: 17
          The president does not remove Medvedev because the teddy is immediately promoted to the opposition.
          And so he is under control, and if you wish, you can always put him in such conditions that he himself will resign, and even be disgraced at the same time.
          1. +14
            11 May 2013 13: 06
            Which leaders, in which opposition ???? Putin himself brought Medvedev into power and specifically holds because he needs a manual president or prime minister ...
      4. Merchant
        -11
        11 May 2013 11: 14
        Listen to R_U_S_S_K_I_Y change the username and flag for the avatar, because you drive nonsense !!!
        If a worthy receiver for the post of prime minister is found and prepared, then GDP will definitely replace DAM !!!
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        2. Patriot of Russia
          +12
          11 May 2013 12: 06
          Quote: Merchant
          Listen to R_U_S_S_K_I_Y change the username and flag for the avatar, because you drive nonsense !!!

          better you. change your brain
          1. 0
            12 May 2013 01: 02
            Damn normal site was. and now here too, white-winged hamsters have been sold to Americans. where and from which site everyone piled here. Liberalists are invisible. Tryndets - one anti-Russian propaganda and a bunch of atirus. Look at the nicknames and for sure, from the Nemtsov and the bulk delegation came to the site.
            1. +1
              12 May 2013 14: 22
              You are no different from the ordinary white-tape visitor Yeh Matsy - those who do not have a common opinion with them immediately become Nashi, Putinists and Chekists. But if someone is not happy with Putin and his teddy Teddy, then immediately liberals are.
        3. +20
          11 May 2013 12: 27
          Quote: Merchant
          If a worthy receiver for the post of prime minister is found and prepared, then GDP will definitely replace DAM !!!

          Well, yes, of course, "the firemen are looking, the police are looking .. looking .." and have not been able to find a worthy replacement for Medvedev in all of Mother Russia since 2000 (since this year he has been constantly holding top government posts).
        4. +15
          11 May 2013 12: 58
          Quote: Merchant
          Listen to R_U_S_S_K_I_Y change the username and flag for the avatar, because you drive nonsense !!!
          If a worthy receiver for the post of prime minister is found and prepared, then GDP will definitely replace DAM !!!


          Looks like not all dispossessed, merchant? All worthy candidates are either imprisoned or simply quietly killed. Kvachkov, Budanov, I think many more names can be called worthy.
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          2. djon3volta
            +18
            11 May 2013 13: 44
            Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
            or just quietly kill.

            I like how Lukashenko dealt with his competitors (who disappeared without a trace, who sat behind bars) but saved the country! After all, we love Lukashenko at this forum, am I right? Of course we love, by the comments you can see when the news is about Belarus or Lukashenko. But he clearly removed his competitors for president, agree? I personally like dictatorial regimes! good
            1. Patriot of Russia
              -11
              11 May 2013 13: 59
              justice league)) on the left (Gaddafi, Luke, Chavis) I agree, these leaders have done a lot for their countries. and on the right, starting with Putin, the league of thieves and dictators that chew on your people
              1. +15
                11 May 2013 14: 13
                You do not forget that it was Putin who prevented the collapse of the State. And he could strengthen it. I think that if he hadn’t, then there would have been no Russian Federation by 2002. There would have been a commonwealth of independent Russian states (Far Eastern Republic, Ural Republic, Moscow State ), as well as a hostile environment in the form of the Kazan and Bashikir caliphates, the Dagestan and Chechen caliphates. as well as a protracted war between everyone. Our American friends already had plans and people
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                2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
                  -3
                  11 May 2013 23: 36
                  Opinion is not Russian personally I am not interested ....
            2. +11
              11 May 2013 15: 26
              Quote: djon3volta
              I personally like dictatorial regimes!

              And I like it. But only when the dictator works for the good of the country and the people, like Lukashenko or Stalin. But Putin was put in this row in vain ...
            3. TekhnarMAF
              -7
              11 May 2013 16: 32
              Like this? Do you understand what you said?
            4. -3
              11 May 2013 17: 02
              And the two to the right of Assad are who?
              1. -3
                11 May 2013 19: 14
                And why am I minusanuli?
            5. 0
              11 May 2013 18: 22
              If the goals of the dictatorial regime coincide with the aspirations and desires of the people, they are supported, why not.
              Democracy is simply a more ingenious system for politicians to achieve their goals. sad
          3. +1
            11 May 2013 13: 57
            Kvachkov and Budanov are worthy candidates for prime ministers of Russia ??????
            No comments.
          4. rolik
            0
            13 May 2013 00: 49
            Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
            All worthy candidates are either imprisoned or simply quietly killed. Kvachkov, Budanov, I think many more names can be called worthy.

            As for Kvachkov and Budanov, it’s you who have gone too far. I think they did not even think about premiership. They are just patriots of their country and homeland. And everyone did his own thing.
            In place of the prime minister you need a man of a special warehouse. And it would be better if it were an analyst and business executive in one person. If Primakov stood on this post, one could sleep peacefully. He would be next to him, especially in the new conditions, he would not suffer any bastard. But unfortunately he will not be the prime minister, he will not want to be. Age is not the same. But who will put .... the question is open. Although, as it seems to me, the GDP is already in my head.
        5. Vashestambid2
          +7
          11 May 2013 13: 42
          Quote: Merchant
          If a worthy receiver for the post of prime minister is found and prepared, then GDP will definitely replace DAM !!!

          Are you kidding me? Yes, the chimpanzee will cope with his work !! laughing
        6. +1
          11 May 2013 18: 08
          Quote: Merchant
          Listen to R_U_S_S_K_I_Y change the username and flag for the avatar, because you drive nonsense !!!

          Well no! All he says is right!
          Quote: Merchant
          If a worthy receiver for the post of prime minister is found and prepared, then GDP will definitely replace DAM !!!

          Laughing out loud! Did you understand what you wrote? wassat
        7. +2
          12 May 2013 09: 33
          Merchant (1) RU "If a worthy successor is found and ... then the GDP .. will replace the LADIES !!!"
          -------------------------------------------------- ----
          What "worthy" successor for the LADY is it? You probably need an even more outspoken ENEMY of Russia? For everything that he managed to do, he is entitled to a RIGID, and he continues to remain at the helm of the STATE !!! It's just nonsense ...
          1. rolik
            0
            13 May 2013 00: 55
            Quote: alexdol
            and he continues to remain at the helm of the STATE !!!

            This is a great success, but it is not he who rules the state. He now has one role, the role of the wedding general. Which does not solve important issues. Although, bastard, with winter time he snapped large. Last winter is proof of how hard it was to wake up in the morning, and the job is responsible ... damn it. Well, in a word, gov ... yuk narrow-minded.
      5. Atlon
        +7
        11 May 2013 12: 20
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        Putin is developing only a more or less military-industrial complex, but even more internal troops, the first to protect your money from an external enemy, the example of Gaddafi is indicative here, and the latter is for protection from one’s own people.

        Another truth-seeker ... Did you count that money personally? Or did you say One Baba (OBS agency)? What a bad taste, writing all kinds of rubbish with a clever expression on his face, passing it off as immutable truth ???
        1. -6
          11 May 2013 12: 55
          Quote: Atlon
          Another truth-seeker ... Did you count that money personally? Or did you say One Baba (OBS agency)? What a bad taste, writing all kinds of rubbish with a clever expression on his face, passing it off as immutable truth ???


          Yes, forty flew in, whispered in the ear. Haha, nonsense?) At least $ 40 billion, but at most $ 130 billion. Sources may not be the most reliable, but who will publicly publish such information? He is our servant of the people, the poor man thinks all about people.

          http://www.solovei.info/russia/9-politics/6954-putin-samyj-bogatyj-chelovek-v-mi
          re.html
          http://skuky.net/59123
          http://www.corrupcia.net/talks/talk-425.html
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            1. +4
              12 May 2013 00: 02
              Quote: Atlon
              You are the lord "e_v_r_e_y_s_k_y_y",


              The first time I delete your post, remember the gentlemen of the Jews
              - Miles, Lavochkin, Vannikov, Nudelman thanks to whom you live
              1. Atlon
                +1
                12 May 2013 09: 55
                Quote: Vadivak
                The first time I delete your post,

                I wonder on what basis ??? How did my post violate the rules of this site? Or simply because, you yourself: mister "e_v_r_e_y_s_k_y_y"?
        2. +1
          11 May 2013 16: 48
          Atlon
          No, Jehovah's Witnesses told him this, but the swamp truth-tellers, who are most dissatisfied with Putin, confirmed ... again - he himself admitted that birds and animals through his lengthy conversations contributed to his insight ... what do you want from a person talking with animals ...
        3. +6
          12 May 2013 00: 28
          why nonsense !? my neighbor cop (sorry - mister policeman) has a salary of 110 rubles, and a janitor has 000-15 thousand, I only see the work of a janitor every day, and I only saw the "mister policeman" once when he stopped in his jeep and threw it out on the street empty beer bottles after the night shift - I was shocked by such impudence, and he calmly slammed the door and drove off.
      6. +12
        11 May 2013 12: 43
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        If Vladimir Vladimirovich cares so much about the people, then why doesn’t he remove the prime minister

        How, dear ... don’t you know why? He just didn’t know! Indeed, this is exactly how the GDP answered the last time the question of why he had not removed Serdyukov before!
      7. -1
        11 May 2013 13: 52
        I really did not understand why this post had 12 pluses. On this occasion, I agree with the Mitek post below.
      8. Rainman69
        -6
        11 May 2013 15: 19
        Another pseudo-Russian .....
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        If Vladimir Vladimirovich cares so much about the people, then why won't he remove the prime minister from his post? Although, remove from this, put on another, but how, without a money feeder to someone left. Putin is developing only a more or less military-industrial complex, but even more internal troops, the first to protect his money from an external enemy, the example of Gaddafi is indicative here, and the latter to protect against his own people. Just on May 9, we gathered with the guys to go to the eternal flame, near the Kremlin, to congratulate the veterans, so the whole center, absolutely the whole is blocked! There’s just a bunch of policemen, you can go only on one side, and only 4-5 turnstiles were delivered, the bunch of people were standing in the sun, for about 30 minutes, exactly, and there were elderly people and children, and about an hour more I had to get to of this entrance, because either you are being sent in one direction, then in the other. This is not a mockery of the people? They only think about themselves.
      9. +5
        11 May 2013 15: 44
        And such an indisputable leader as Stalin, when he took power in the 4 year, could not remove Trotsky. Well
        There is a situation when for the realization of what is really needed, the leader uses tough and even cruel measures, goes to the target by those bones. who becomes the material for his historical creativity. And then the question arises about the relationship between price and result, and this dispute can go on for centuries. But the result somehow remains indisputable, even if the price turns out to be controversial. And such a leader is usually more popular than cursed. Moreover, for the most part it is cursed by the elites and glorified by the masses.


        How everything is true about Stalin !!!
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      11. +1
        11 May 2013 17: 36
        Everything is a bit more complicated. It is not a matter of the number of police officers on this square meter; they somewhere disappeared if they arrived somewhere. The fact is that the siloviks (Putiners) are losing influence, everyone who is involved in the affairs of the nineties harnessed for Dima. It remains to be expected that Vova will squeeze them all, if not, then they will squeeze all of us. One wonders where the army will be - the stools were removed - there is a chance that it will remain neutral.
      12. optimist
        +2
        11 May 2013 17: 42
        I am ready to subscribe to your every word! The main problem is that Russia is inhabited by DoBiLa who believe in a "fairy tale" about a "bad" LADY and a "good" GDP. All of them are one gang-watering can, only change places with each other. But the stupid Russian people for the most part do not understand this. When it starts to understand, then, perhaps, something will change for the better ...
        1. skeptic-
          -2
          11 May 2013 19: 23
          Quote: optimist
          The main problem is that Russia is inhabited by DoBiLa who believe in a "fairy tale" about a "bad" LADY and a "good" GDP. All of them are one gang-watering can, only change places with each other. But the stupid Russian people for the most part do not understand this. When it starts to understand, then, perhaps, something will change for the better ...


          They say that a pessimist is a well-informed optimist. In your superficial attitude to the Russian people, contempt and hatred - ENEMY are you, our optimistic, or ...

          Although the schizophrenic of anyone will be considered a moron, BUT ONLY NOT HIMSELF. This does not concern you (do you live not in Russia?) - you are our optimist.
          1. optimist
            +3
            11 May 2013 20: 38
            The D.O.L.k., who understands that he is D.U.R., is already half smart. Think about this phrase. Only a very "gifted" people can screw up everything that their ancestors have saved for centuries in 25 years. I don't offend anyone: I just state the facts. From which smart people will draw conclusions, and dooraci will feel offended.
            1. skeptic-
              +2
              11 May 2013 22: 39
              Quote: optimist
              The main problem is that Russia is populated by e.b.i.


              Well, you, my friend, are also a boor. You were not taught that in Russia, a stranger, it is not customary to poke? If you, on the street, will be called a moron, and your children, parents, beloved, then you probably want to say thank you in return? wassat

              Quote: optimist
              But the dumb Russian people for the most part do not understand this.
              1. optimist
                +4
                11 May 2013 23: 13
                And I didn't expect any thanks from you, Dear Dear. As for my not entirely correct expressions, it's just anger at those narrow-minded people, thanks to whom our country is rapidly turning into a big "Titanic". And the places in the "boats" will go to the henchmen of the current government (and even then not everyone). And I, you, and many millions of others will more than pay for Putin's "stability" ...
                1. skeptic-
                  0
                  12 May 2013 14: 18
                  Quote: optimist
                  And I didn't expect any thanks from you, Dear Dear. As for my not entirely correct expressions, it's just anger at those narrow-minded people, thanks to whom our country is rapidly turning into a big "Titanic". And the places in the "boats" will go to the henchmen of the current government (and even then not everyone). And I, you, and many millions of others will more than pay for Putin's "stability."


                  Sorry, but (The main problem is that Russia is populated by e.b.i.l.a.mi) you said - this is not anger at some, near-minded, and indiscriminately, on all citizens of Russia... If you feel resentment that you have deprived your minions of a place in the "boats" - I sympathize. Although I do not quite share this point of view. It's just that in life I'm used to building and sailing on my own raft. So, today's "thresholds" are becoming less tense, and therefore, comparisons with "TITANIC", I perceive them as hysterical, with considerable skepticism.

                  You can’t take my advice, but try to be simpler and people will reach for you. Perhaps then you will understand that the Russian people are far from dumb.
        2. sokoloff4791
          0
          11 May 2013 19: 29
          YOU TU.P.O.O. AND D.E.B.I.L.PRO RUSSIANS SO DO NOT DEFECT EVEN
          1. optimist
            0
            11 May 2013 20: 35
            Apparently, you just belong to the stupid mass, piously believing in the "infallible" GDP. Never mind, even your brains will be cleared in the next couple of years! tongue
        3. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          +1
          11 May 2013 23: 41
          Rude but honestly ......
      13. +3
        11 May 2013 18: 01
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        If Vladimir Vladimirovich cares so much about the people, then why will he not remove the prime minister from his post?

        They are all there at the same time.
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        but even more internal troops, the first to protect their money from an external enemy, the example of Gaddafi is indicative here, and the second to protect from his own people.

        That you just noticed!
      14. 0
        11 May 2013 19: 01
        Putin is developing only a more or less military-industrial complex, but even more internal troops as I wrote "r_u_s_s_k_i_y". servicemen of the BB and I know a little better!
      15. 0
        11 May 2013 23: 17
        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        If Vladimir Vladimirovich cares so much about the people, then why will he not remove the prime minister from his post?

        Ha! Yes, it is only in the Bible that the Right can act in ignorance of the Left !!!
      16. DuraLexSedLex.
        -1
        12 May 2013 00: 10
        As the wisdom forged in the centuries says "keep your friends close and enemies even closer!"
      17. +1
        12 May 2013 01: 05
        Who is Medvedev?
        Medvedev is ...
        1. The biggest personnel mistake of Putin VV, which now just can not get rid of.
        2. The biggest electoral disappointment of the 2000s and 2010s and the electoral kettlebell on Putin’s feet VV
        3. Victim of the symbiosis of megalomania with intellectual poverty and narrow-mindedness.
        4. Victim of stubborn nano-ionization.
        5. Nanopigmy of Russian politics at the beginning of the 21st century, Kindersurprise No. 2, for those who remember Kindersurprise No. 1 (Kiriyenko).
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    3. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +6
      11 May 2013 12: 03
      And in Russian-P-R-E-D-A-T-E-L-!!!!
    4. +7
      11 May 2013 14: 39
      just a clown. It's a shame for the state, though, the people have such a government that they deserve ....
    5. +8
      11 May 2013 15: 14
      Today, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov officially announced that after fulfilling the previously reached agreements on arms supplies to Syria, Russia would not conclude new contracts with it.
      What do you say guys shouting cheers to Putin in the discussion thread of the Israeli attacks on Damascus?
      1. +3
        11 May 2013 22: 22
        Quote: Ribwort
        What do you say guys shouting cheers to Putin in the discussion thread of the Israeli attacks on Damascus?

        I didn’t yell at him, but still I will express my opinion. Something else to expect from them was stupid. hi
    6. nickname 1 and 2
      -6
      11 May 2013 15: 51
      Author Sergey Chernyakhovsky

      How much .lept? Where did they give it? Wow, you celebrated !!

      like in a joke?
      and there so = Lenin and Dzerzhinsky were at the birthday party! And just got drunk before .... that.
      They go in the morning and here the workers ... They put up Lenin on the bronivichk and (without much money) a speech pushed ....
      Next come.
      What Vladimir Ilyich was talking about, or I got drunk I didn’t understand, F.E.

      But who knows what I was talking about? I think that for 70 years they will unravel what I said.

      Here is the author -> author -> the author on kalbasil and the people then the people of the UF as TORCHESTVOM then DONE. Ehhh! drinks
      1. Ruslan_F38
        +7
        11 May 2013 16: 19
        Medvedev is uniquely a traitor and should be shamefully expelled from power structures in general!
    7. +1
      11 May 2013 17: 58
      Again, GDP is good, and DAM is bad !!! Oh well!!! negative They are all there at the same time. am
      1. skeptic-
        +1
        11 May 2013 20: 00
        Quote: nycsson
        Again, GDP is good, and DAM is bad !!! Oh well!!! They are all there at the same time.


        Thank God, if for one. Nixon is not concerned, but in the history of the United States there are known dead women who decided to sharply tear their backstage from the state feeding service. For any transformation, it is necessary to create conditions, as if occurring on their own. Sometimes decisions have to be made, not just unpopular, but also provoking a frank protest of the people.
        Remember how we used to resent empty shelves, scolded the Soviet government, not even realizing that the shifters were preparing the collapse of the entire USSR.

        And now imagine the unimaginable thing: now it is required to show the whole abomination of capitalism, so that it would never return to it. In order to build a state on new foundations, but consciously, that our common well-being depends only on the contribution of each. Do you think this is incredible? Wait and see. You do not like the leadership of Putin, yes, today's, albeit fragile stability, is far from ideal, but not that of the 90s. In the end, the road will be overpowered by the traveler, but Putin is not worth it. Although we do not always understand his actions, our misunderstanding of the actions does not mean their incorrectness.
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    10. 0
      11 May 2013 18: 13
      So what is Medvedev to blame for?

      It’s my fault that he didn’t deliver S-300 to Iran and thereby worsened relations between Russia and Persia after the visit of Jew Netanyahu to Moscow, apparently afraid of deteriorating relations with the West, which assures us that the eastward expansion will not be or missile defense is not directed against you, Do we believe in this naively?

      It’s to blame for the fact that he headed the cabinet of ministers during a crisis of oil declines below $ 100, and thereby, voluntarily worsened his popularity and, apparently, he will become a scapegoat for low GDP growth, although we can see 3-5% of God's help without investing in infrastructure , due to the demand of the domestic market in the boutiques. pensioners and whom they raised.

      It’s to blame that I wanted to raise science according to the Western model through Skolkovo, and as we say, we’ll see if it works and only Ryzhik sticks to the budget.

      Let's face it, it’s his fault that he is liberal.
    11. +2
      11 May 2013 18: 16
      And he reminds me more of Lord Farquhad of Shrek. The same petty and narcissistic. Most of all he pins as he pulls his head up ....
    12. Rainman69
      -2
      11 May 2013 21: 12
      Dear, and you forgive me from which country write here? there is too much of you with such a flag and the designation SU ... you are clearly not writing from Russia !! Friends, look at other comments, there is clearly infobross, a bunch of hirelings trolls from another country work ...
      Quote: avt
      Twitter Aifonovich All Medvedydev - Gorbachev second edition shattered and otifonenny.
    13. 0
      11 May 2013 21: 19
      Quote: avt
      Twitter Aifonovich All Medvedydev - Gorbachev second edition shattered and otifonenny.


      Interestingly, the author of the article was attached to one single phrase. He twisted around her idiotic conjectures, BUT made the right conclusions.

      Who is worse than a du-ru or du-ru who considers himself the voice of the people?
    14. YuDDP
      0
      12 May 2013 02: 14
      stated that "the minister is not a ruble to please everyone"

      The author of the article famously twisted: he summed up from a single sentence under a firing article.
      Although, of course, the iPhone is not in its place.
  2. +21
    11 May 2013 10: 25
    The more Medvedev he will be in power with his company, the more he will harm Russia with his COMPETENCE, it’s high time to remove them, but in such a way that it would be inconvenient for others ...
    1. +8
      11 May 2013 12: 43
      Quote: svp67
      it's time to remove them

      But how? legally through the elections –– it will not pass; those who count, under the supervision of the appointed governor and mayor, win the election. We noticed that in most elections are held in schools, and teachers vote. In order to stay in their places, they fulfill the order from above, do not allow checking, they do not even pay attention to the cameras. So how to change power? the revolution - will not help, the organizers will go to jail right away, the protests - will be immediately attributed to the white puppets, liberals and Westerners. The salaries of the police and the army have not increased in vain, they will stand up for power. It turns out that there is no way out, little depends on us. Of the politicians, I like Primakov, but he is old and his power will not allow for elections. Who thinks what? how do we choose decent power and politicians?
      1. +2
        11 May 2013 14: 07
        so you guys do not need this site, but a direct road to the US embassy - there you will be advised in detail how to change power in Russia.
        I don’t like this option, I’m answering the last question of the post - organize a political party (the threshold for registration is ridiculous) develop a program, deliver it to voters, enlist their support during trips to our vast regions, put forward your candidacy, and go ahead to the polls. At the same time, if there is not enough personal resource - unite with like-minded people, attract sponsors / benefactors, do something that interferes? Putin ??? laughing
        1. +7
          11 May 2013 14: 35
          Well, I said that it is always like this with us - that if you do not completely like the current government, then you are sure to be ranked among the pro-Westerners or liberals. in your opinion, several tens of thousands that pro-Westerners came out to protests after the elections? and they need to run to the US embassy to seek protection? bad you see people know if you judge so. And if I like Primakov's policy, then I need to run to the US Embassy as you advise? The organization of political parties, as you say, will give little, since, for example, in the elections I voted for "fair Russia" for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and what happened? - All the same, the United Russia party retained the majority of votes. And all the decisions that she needs to pass, and the rest of the parties in the Duma turns out so for the sake of appearance, because even united together they will not be able to have a majority of votes. So the creation of new parties is an illusion, if the Communist Party cannot, or rather do not allow it to gain a majority in the elections, then what can we talk about
          1. -1
            11 May 2013 17: 31
            I also respect Primakov’s policies.

            If the organization of political parties gives little, put forward legislative initiatives directly to the relevant State Duma committee on behalf of any public organization you like (or, in the absence of one, again created by you) public organization, organize public public control over the course of consideration of this initiative ... this will require a little cooperation with the media and lawyers, it may cost some money ... But who said that it would be easy to build and strengthen the state and society? Under the USSR, they generally said, "The world has to be supported by one's labor", i.e. apart from simple daily work at their workplace, they did not expect anything from ordinary citizens, let alone offer anything. You can make a rationalization proposal as part of your job duties - nothing more. Politics? no no! And now, any three citizens of the Russian Federation can organize a social movement and, as they like, actively carry out the goal of the activity stated in the charter and attract an unlimited number of any other citizens from among like-minded people to their ranks and thus express their civic position.

            We all see that under the current system of power it is not easy for Putin to achieve elementary discipline in the same issue of enforcing decrees, and to implement a personnel policy (the same Chubais, for example). Because the system of this power was built by the Americans in the beginning of the 90s and, it is not without the participation of Mr. Surkov, one must assume. In connection with a change in the place of work of the latter, one can expect some noticeable (and not noticeable) changes to the average person.

            Regarding "... the Communist Party is not allowed ..." - the Communist Party has many regions where they won the elections, where there are governors appointed or approved by the Communist Party. Yes, if life there was at least 20% better than in other regions of Russia, do you think people across the country would not vote for a candidate from the Communist Party in their region and in the Kremlin? so apparently the point is not really "give - do not give".

            By the way, this is the second part of the answer to the question "how to change the power" - take whatever burden you can, you may not need to change the power all over the country at once - you first regulate the power in your yard, in your district, in your city, region, republic, in a convenient way way - then you look and no one cares who works there as president in Moscow.

            PS and I would still not confuse power with officials. The supreme authority in Russia, according to my personal feelings, is in order. But the work of many officials of different ranks and I have questions. And I would love to change some of them!
            1. +5
              11 May 2013 18: 40
              I see from your comments how you defend the government ... I will not hide that in the current government I like some politicians, for example, Shoigu, Putin needs to be given credit, he began to raise the army. But there are very few pluses, much more minuses. Is 12 years of rule not enough time to raise Russia? I see the standard of living of many acquaintances that there is nothing special to brag about with power, and they honestly work in enterprises of both private business and state. And I don’t have time to organize parties, as you tell me I need to work, and there’s neither the desire nor the time to spend time on politics. But I go to the polls and vote, but apparently it's useless.
              Quote: liteha
              I would still not confuse power with officials. The supreme authority in Russia, according to my personal feelings, is in order. But the work of many officials of different ranks and I have questions. And I would love to change some of them!

              And the government should be responsible for the officials, a simple person seeing the atrocities of officials judges the state that allowed such an official to be elected. And where is the personal responsibility? everyone should be responsible for what they did, and the president can’t even put the stolen Serdyukov, Vasilyev, Skrynik and many other officials into prison. And there is nothing to blame the president for himself - he appointed the official himself, he stepped aside, which means that he was indirectly guilty of poorly selecting candidates for the post.
              We are all patriots of Russia and wish speedy prosperity, but the speed of prosperity development largely depends on the competent leadership of the country, we have quite talented leaders who are many times better than current ones, we need to give them a way.
      2. +7
        11 May 2013 15: 15
        Totally agree with you good I still remember how Primakov deployed the plane when he learned about the bombing of Yugoslavia. how Baba wanted to tame, but the EBN family did not let him do it- $ uki. He is a good politician.
      3. +6
        11 May 2013 15: 26
        Quote from astra
        The salaries of the police and the army have not increased in vain, they will stand up for power.

        He served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for 23 calendar years, in the most difficult times, when there wasn’t even money to eat, they cooked boiled millet on water (they delayed the pay for 4-6 months and it was hard to name what was paid), but even then we thought not about power but about the country we are protecting.
        You, dear, do not compare us with yourself; the vast majority of officers have Honor. Our business is to take care of the good of the country, not to count money.
        1. +7
          11 May 2013 16: 07
          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          You, dear, do not compare us.

          I also served in the army, and managed to fight, and in the first I went hungry in the army, so it’s not for you to judge me and hide behind the army, you are not the only one who served and compare what I have rights to. The fact that I have raised salaries is against nothing, against which only the army and power blocks have been raised substantially, while to the other according to the meager, it is unfair. Now there is already a big difference in incomes and the people are angry that someone is buzzing, and someone is mostly vegetating.
        2. +3
          11 May 2013 16: 53
          - Yes, there were people in our time ...

          You look at the current lieutenants, who go to a bakery in a taxi and shout at a taxi driver - ... they say the street is slow.
          1. +4
            11 May 2013 19: 24
            I agree with you, in every barrel of honey, there is a fly in the ointment. In our North, at checkpoints, officers receive 60-80000 for checking passes, and doctors earn 10000, the difference is huge, and then many wonder why doctors take bribes.
            1. +2
              12 May 2013 01: 10
              I would say differently - in every tar barrel you can find two or three tablespoons of honey, but this does not affect the taste, just as the tar barrel remained.
              1. +3
                12 May 2013 01: 41
                You rightly noticed that, our power can be called a barrel of tar, and the army a barrel of honey with a spoon of tar.
        3. avensis
          0
          11 May 2013 19: 31
          "You respected us do not compare with yourself, the overwhelming majority of officers have honor. Our business is to take care of the welfare of the country, and not to count money."
          Well, it would be nice if you really did, as you say. Yes, and the vast majority
          1. +3
            11 May 2013 20: 03
            And you read carefully my post above - it says that
            Quote: avensis
            in each barrel of honey, there is a fly in the ointment.

            What is there to be offended, is it everywhere, in all industrial structures, at different enterprises, or do you deny that there are scum in the army? Thank God there are more such decent people, more decent people.
        4. RSNV.
          +3
          12 May 2013 00: 49
          "the overwhelming majority of officers have Honor. Our business is to take care of the welfare of the country, and not to count money" Unfortunately, you confuse the desired with the actual
          1. +2
            12 May 2013 01: 50
            Did I say that officers have no honor? Find where I said that? what are you making up The army will never go against the people as it is the people themselves. The fact that they raised your salaries is good, it’s bad that only you and the security forces have raised so substantially, but people who are not connected with the army and the security services have practically not been raised. So we get a wage gap: the military receives 70000-100000 and the caretakers and nurses 10000-15000 each. And you have nothing to do with it.
      4. -7
        11 May 2013 16: 56
        astra
        Fortunately, you are a minority, so you will not do anything ...
        1. -2
          11 May 2013 18: 09
          Quote: smile
          Fortunately, you are a minority, so you will not do anything ...

          You’re mistaken, almost all of Russia, because I’m not indifferent to the fate of Russia, and I see how Western intelligence agencies undermine Russia, as well as our authorities, because for 12 years that the government’s GDP could raise Russia for a long time at such high oil prices, under the USSR there were no such prices, so the USSR collapsed like you. But I do not know who to rank you with, but I think just a minority of you. And the number of votes says that just you less. People can’t be fooled.
          1. -1
            11 May 2013 18: 38
            astra
            That you are mistaken. All of Russia has demonstrated its choice .... do not think, please, that the fate of the Motherland is indifferent to the bulk of the population, and you, no good ...
            1. This is precisely when Pu was a country that at full steam, it was barely barely stopping at the edge .. do you know the concept of inertia? Even a crumbling bankrupt plant is not easy to restore .. and here, the inertia of the thinking of millions of people with grafted values, think about yourself before .... and then about yourself .. and never think about the Motherland, this is her problem ...
            2.Lack of personnel - after all, in the entire system of public administration, there is a new generation, sharpened exclusively under the slogan - "get rich" ...
            3. Swamp fairy tales about dishonest elections are not necessary to be mentioned here ... look who loudly shouts your slogans-mink opposition .. these are your closest allies ... I don’t like them ... how about you? Just right? Are the goals the same? Congratulations!!!
            4. your idiotic statement that I will not disassemble the Union like that ... I just remember that those who brought down the Union, those hydrocephals who yelled something about thieves and freedom in the squares operated with exactly the same slogans that and you ... so what are you after that? Who am I asking? Do you want to repeat the collapse? ... pah, it’s disgusting to remind ... how can you not remember all this?
            And it would be time to stop cracking about oil prices - the oil price during the collapse of the Union was like when Pu came to power ... but it was entirely in the hands of the state ... and under Pu it was all taken apart in democratic private pockets .. . the state has only taxes .. I hope you have enough reason to understand the difference?

            That's right, people can’t be fooled, and that’s why your minority will not be allowed to ruin the country for the second time .... I can clearly see that there are fewer idle spots in the squares ... I don’t know if they are getting smarter, or your ringleaders are waiting for the next tranche - but less ...
            1. +2
              11 May 2013 19: 05
              Time will judge which one of us is right, I will not hide the recession under Putin, the high oil prices helped, but there is no development of the country, the army is a plus, but with the right leadership it would be possible to achieve a greater economic recovery. As I understand it, you are doing your best to rank me among white-winged dogs and liberals, I understand that these statements will lead people to your side more, but you can’t do this because after reading my comments I haven’t given a single reason for reckoning. The fact that after the false elections to the Duma, tens of thousands of people went out to the protests in the square does not say that they are white bellies and liberals, it’s just that the organizers liberals such as Kasparov, Kudrin, Navalny and many others skillfully privatized these speeches, they used the discontent of people to their advantage. And do you think they are all liberals? These are just people like you who are trying to split society into those who are against the government calling them provocateurs and destroyers. How you are trying to protect corrupt corrupt power, well, you are only discussing with me, this is the whole branch against Pu and Meda. Nobody is going to ruin the country here, all the patriots of Russia and Russia are our home, but with such a policy and such advocates of power as you see, it will be difficult for Russia to get up off its knees.
              1. 0
                11 May 2013 19: 26
                astra
                Yes, time will judge ...
                With all due respect to public opinion, it’s impossible to make me say something so that someone will like it in principle, if you had come across me earlier, you would have seen that ...
                The fact that I ranked you among the marshes is for you, firstly, in response to the fact that you ranked me among those. who destroyed the Union, secondly. you yourself admitted that the discontented movement privatized these traits that you mentioned ... continue your thought, therefore, in whose interests are your actions? If the movement is privatized, then? What, am I right? :))) The Union was destroyed by the same patriots ... the slogans are the same ... what's the difference? The road to hell has been laid out with good intentions ... I think this is about you ...
                I’m not saying that I like everything that’s going on, it’s necessary to be weak-minded, but I mentioned about gigantic inertia ... about staff shortages ... and about oil prices, I also said enough ... about corruption ... you know, there is such a breed of people who do not like anything, no matter what is done ... certain positive changes are visible in the country. but they will never be enough ... it is this fundamental blindness and loud populist slogans that convince me of the destructiveness of your calls and actions of your colleagues and allies with the swamp ... even though they have privately privatized you ...
                That fact. that here, in your words, the whole branch against Pu and Dama (which causes disdain for me) does not bother me ... I express my opinion and nobody else ...
                1. +4
                  11 May 2013 19: 51
                  smile
                  But I am not forcing you to lean on any side, and even if you were a moderator you would continue to discuss with you, shoulder straps and glasses on my side.
                  And the fact that I ranked you among such people that ruined
                  USSR is the answer to your statements addressed to me
                  Quote: smile
                  Fortunately, you are a minority group, so you won’t do anything ..

                  You first started or thought that I would swallow silently))) you are mistaken. If there was an opportunity, I would run into you. My dissatisfaction with the authorities does not give a reason to be ranked among the instigators of Bolotnaya, I see that you have come to the taste of everyone who is dissatisfied with the power to rank as liberals. Well then, I will continue to rank you among the destructive forces that are destroying the country, for speaking in your words, with good intentions, the road to hell has been laid out just for you because through the efforts of Pu and honey Russia slowly creeps down, with the exception of the army. Since 2008, many events have occurred. Russia was plunged into a deep economic crisis. Instead of economic growth, its recession began. The budget surplus was replaced by a deficit, millions of citizens lost their jobs, prices and utility tariffs are skyrocketing. Against this background, the number of billionaires doubled and social and interregional inequality worsened.
                  Official propaganda says that now everything is in order, the country has defeated the crisis, defeated terrorism and defeated corruption, we are moving forward along the path of innovation and modernization, we are respected throughout the world, the welfare of citizens is growing, poverty is falling, men and women are giving birth children, and Russia's extinction of the "dashing 90s" is over. One of the black results of the reign of Vladimir Putin was the plunge of Russia into the hopeless abyss of corruption. Worst of all, in Russia corruption in the highest echelons of power is actually legalized. Putin’s old friends, who were nobody before he came to power — Yuri Kovalchuk, the Rotenberg brothers — turned into billionaires in dollars. It is not surprising that a country begins to copy its leader’s behavior model. Back in 2000, we were 82nd in the global rating of the level of corruption by Transparency International (non-governmental international organization for the fight against corruption and the study of the level of corruption around the world). The country was very corrupt.
                  In 2009, Russia slipped significantly lower - to 146th place. Our neighbors in the ranking are Cameroon, Ecuador, Kenya, Sierra Leone, East Timor, Zimbabwe. Even Georgia is much ahead of us in the ranking - it is in 61st place.
                  During Putin's rule, the situation with the theft of officials in Russia turned from very bad to catastrophic. Continue to list the "achievements" of the GDP?
                  1. -3
                    11 May 2013 21: 16
                    astra
                    Already better ...
                    Not a single normal person will stop defending his point of view because of toy epaulettes, and if the situation allows non-toy ones too, then I agree with you ....

                    The fact that you are a minority, a medical fact, we had elections, there is a result ... raise a discussion of the topic in VO and everything will be clear to you ...

                    If you are not familiar with the situation, I will tell you a secret, in the 90s and XNUMXs corruption was even worse ... and much worse ... to believe these ratings ... outside of common sense - you know how these ratings are compiled ... .. I recommend Starikov's book "Sherche la oil" ... so the struggle is being waged .. what is not so successful - well, but how to do everything at once? Shoot? So Pu is even now accused of being a dictator. can you imagine what a howl will rise? Even now, like some thief, louder than anyone screaming that the authorities are thieves. they will take for the shkiryatnik and carefully, observing all the laws, they will press it - howl-repression rises !!! And if out of the bucket, they are all thieves. we bawled !!!! Moreover, all the careerists from the other parties ran into the bucket, and if they are thieves, then they took shape in this capacity long ago. before the creation of the EP ... the other party will win, they will run there, and they will all be accepted - they are also a resource

                    If you didn’t notice, the crisis happened all over the world ... why did you decide that he should have got around us ... is this our dynamics even better than in most countries .. or is Pu driving there?

                    You are rightly saying that there are other positive trends that, naturally, the government puffs out ... and who does otherwise?
                    In general, do not continue to list fairy tales based on ratings compiled by known organizations with what goals .... better think better ... calmly, without emotion ..... especially since I myself can point you to real, not fictional jambs of the country's leadership ....
                    1. +4
                      11 May 2013 23: 20
                      As for the epaulettes, I noticed that people with high ratings (epaulets) are more likely to run into, cling to people with a low rating, and they try not to enter into discussions with peers or marshals.
                      Who do you call a minority? people? you are mistaken, people already got these reforms! I agree with the question of opinion polls, you can’t trust Westerners with confidence, but you can’t trust our state ones either, because - what kind of order will be, that result will be obtained. According to the Federal State Statistics Service, the number of crimes under the article "Bribery" from 2000 to 2009 increased by 87% - from 7 to 13 thousand
                      However, these figures are doubtful: the total number of government officials in Russia at the end of 2009, according to the Federal State Statistics Service, was about 870 thousand people (almost doubled since 1999 - then it was 485 thousand). It is impossible to believe that 870 out of 13 thousand officials take bribes.
                      Corruptionists in Russia for the most part go unpunished. According to the Chairman of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation V. Lebedev, in 2008, as a result of the court’s consideration of corruption cases, only 25% of those accused of bribery lost their freedom and 65% were sentenced ... to probation!
                      This is clear evidence that in the Russian system of "Basmanny justice" officials taking bribes actually have a kind of immunity from serious punishment.
                      And in order to beat off your reasons to accuse me of being a liberal, I’ll answer: as I understand the position of liberals - in rapprochement between the West and Russia at different levels, liberals are completely against the current government and dream of coming to power themselves, although in part they are already in power and Kudrin’s recent departure confirms this .
                      And here is my position: I am against the liberals: Kasparov, Navalny, Kudrins, Nemtsov, Chubais and others, I would not let them go to the cannon shot, I think that agents of America, England and other unfriendly persons from the West are behind them. Putin himself recently said on air that CIA agents surrounded Chubais.
                      But I am against the majority of the current government, because I believe that the majority do poorly with their duties, but some are somewhat good at raising the army, for example, the Ministry of Emergencies, but in many ways is bad. From the current government, I would like Shoigu as president (it would be better if Primakov, but he is old) Primakov as prime minister, and Minister of Defense Putin.
                      And what, after such transfers, will you still consider me a liberal-white-lover?
                      1. -2
                        11 May 2013 23: 56
                        astra

                        It does not matter to me what your epaulettes are — I do not pay attention to them, I hope so do you.
                        I almost always write only when I don’t see a person who adequately responded to the comment I didn’t like the most ... there are a lot of smart people here, and usually everything has already been said before me, and besides, due to the lack of time, I usually visit only on weekends .. .And you really want to read more than to pee ... do you really think that shoulder straps here have any serious meaning for me? :)))) Although, of course, I will not hide - a kind word and a cat is pleased ... and I am pleased that sometimes someone shares my opinion ... but this has never been decisive for me ...

                        as for the minority - you know the election results. The people said their word - you are in the minority .... I highly recommend reading articles and comments on the elections ... you will learn a lot of new things ... :)))
                        If you rate crime by the percentage you specify ... here, I'm sorry, you are too clearly showing your ignorance .... understand - this just does not mean an increase in crime, but that they began to catch it more often, that it decreased part of latent crime is exactly what our authorities declare ... or, if the percentage of people attracted decreased, you would like it more and you would believe. that crime is down? :))) look objectively at your approach to assessing information ... it will become sad ...
                        Back in 92, it was obvious to people close to the law enforcement sphere that the more spioneers, the less chances of landing ... By the way, just for reference ... corruption is one of the most difficult corpus delicti, and such crimes are very difficult to investigate and it's hard to carry out in court ... especially after the amendments to the Code of Criminal Procedure 96 (if memory serves) of the year ... "specific" claims to justice and I have ... by the way, to some points in Soviet legislation - too (but, understandably the matter is much less, and the amount of bureaucracy is depressing ... but in this connection I do not want the collapse of the state ...
                        In principle, your proposals are adequate, but I’m not sure that your candidacy will cope better, and after a few years the protest electorate will not scream that thieves are in power ... I also voted for Primakov-President myself ...

                        Apparently, I touched you with a "liberal" ... do not be offended - I stopped considering you as such after your second comment ... but the fact that, as you rightly said, the protest movement was privatized by these ... and they are there set the tone - it is obvious ... as a result, your position, which you voiced earlier, plays in favor of the privatizers ...
                      2. 0
                        12 May 2013 00: 53
                        Quote: smile
                        I almost always write only when I don’t see a person who adequately responded to a comment that I did not like the most ..

                        Wow, how subtly did you reveal your attitude towards people here:
                        In your opinion, if a person does not agree with you, then he is automatically combed to the sort of people - who did not adequately answer! ))) Farther:
                        Quote: smile
                        I did not like the most.
                        you perceive us for girls what would you like lol Are you too high on yourself? Come down! you are an ordinary person and no more. Well, you give, I am amazed at you, according to your words and the number of comments I see that there are a lot of undeserving people who answered you and especially disliked people.
                        Quote: smile
                        as for the minority - you know the election results. The people said their word - you are in the minority ...
                        Well, you did the same thing, aren't you tired of repeating yourself? Everyone knows how the elections are held because it is not the one who votes that wins the elections, but the one who counts. Governors are vigilant to ensure that the necessary results are obtained, and the president appoints the governors, so the result is obvious. And the size of corruption is an indicator of the government's “success.” Dmitry Medvedev, who was “appointed” in 2008 to the presidency, declared “the fight against corruption” his top priority. Over the four years since his inauguration, Russia has collapsed even more in the world ranking of corruption, bribery has grown, and unprecedented clannishness and nepotism unprecedented in the 1990s flourish in the management of state property and cash flows. The imitation of the fight against corruption began with the decision to publish declarations on the income and property of officials. It is impossible to believe what the country's leaders write about their income. The chatter about the fight against "revenge of the oligarchs" in Russia was the rapid enrichment of the new, more powerful Putin oligarchy. During the crisis year of 2009, the number of billionaires in Russia has doubled. The terms of office of specific officials should be limited at all levels. This is necessary to prevent people from "growing" into alliances with business structures. The principle should be universal: I have worked for 8 years - to retire, no "third terms", various tricks to stay in power (like the transition to the post of prime minister).
                        We need lifelong disqualification of officials convicted of corruption.
                        We need updated law enforcement agencies, an independent Federal Investigation Service, in which there would be no place for persons affiliated with corrupt officials.
                        The most important condition for the fight against corruption is the existence of independent courts in Russia. As long as the courts are under the control of the executive branch, there is no chance that corruption cases will be examined objectively and the perpetrators will be punished.
                        Quote: smile
                        .but the fact that, as you correctly said, the protest movement was privatized by these ... and they set the tone there, is obvious .... as a result, your position, which you voiced earlier, plays in favor of privatizers ...
                        I am not offended, but unfortunately my dissatisfaction with the authorities you see as liberal, because if you say that we are fewer, the country made a choice, then it turns out you rank those who voted against the party of United Russia and GDP as liberals. But liberals and communists also voted against. fairies and many people who disagree with the politics of power.
                      3. -3
                        12 May 2013 03: 41
                        astra
                        Well, what did I reveal in relation to people .... well, I don’t like someone talking ... well, should I welcome him? ... You know, I later found out that you fought ... honor and praise to you. .. I wouldn’t know if I would have been so coveted .... but I also fought ... though not the way I would like .... the hero of me turned out to be hero-terrible, I was scared more than the hero allowed ... such a crap .... and I do not perceive you as girls ... although now I could dance on your bones with might and main about this, if there was a desire ... and I could, don’t doubt .... I don’t want to swear with you -sensation, as if you were beating yourself in the face ... I don’t want to read or swear further .... although I will certainly read your answer ....
                        but you cannot be stopped in the destruction of the state ..... but if you bring down people like you, it’s to bring down your own .... eptermet ... but what if you destroy the state? Advise! ... Well, what about you, if you are driving the country into the groove?
                      4. +3
                        12 May 2013 14: 10
                        Quote: smile
                        You know, I later found out that you fought ... honor and praise ... I would have known if I hadn’t been like that .... but I also fought ... though not the way I would like to ..

                        Thank you for your kind words that something good is left in you. Did you take part in the hostilities? if not a secret then where? It's just that people who went through the war think on the same things on a military plan, and on many other things.
                        Quote: smile
                        . although now I could dance on your bones with might and main about this, if there was a desire ... and I could, do not hesitate ..

                        But after these words, I don’t believe that you fought! I see that you are bloodthirsty, because people appreciate the past brotherhood and each other’s life, and you don’t, because in battle the fighters cover each other, and you are ready to shoot in the back, hatred from you rushing with might and main. And if you write that you are ready to dance on the bones of compatriots who did not please you in correspondence, then this shows your cowardice because you write in the past kind, and if before dancing, to a duel? to establish who will be after dancing on whose bones as you say. Would there be enough spirit?
                        I also do not want to argue with you, because I see that everyone is in their own positions, and no one will convince anyone, a waste of time. But whenever you try to offend me, you extend this correspondence, do not hesitate to have enough patience for a long correspondence.
                        You destroy the state and the liberals and not me. With such reforms and a continued rise in prices, you will ditch and bring to revolution sooner than liberals and Western intelligence agencies try to do it. Here are ordinary people (I still rank myself more as a Communist Party) and are trying to stop the fall, an impending collapse.
                      5. -3
                        12 May 2013 05: 56
                        astra
                        aaabaldet. but I thought ... you’re trying to convict me of partiality ... only now it dawned on me that I wasn’t just clinging to you, I was hooked on a branch about Latvians ... here is my word ... I’m only now found ... :))) funny .... well, there we didn’t go off .... :)))) honest pioneer. I just now discovered this very funny thing ... the fact is that I really rarely pay attention to the nicknames of those with whom I argue ... well, only if I really become familiar ... :)))))
                      6. +4
                        12 May 2013 14: 24
                        I, too, accidentally looking through my komenty saw your answer and answered in an appropriate manner, when I was not touched, not insulted. I do not scoff and answer appropriately, when not, and I do the same. I am for a healthy normal discussion. without insults, clinging, tricks and swearing. If you look at all my komenty you will not see her alone where I was the first to "attack" someone, insulted and somehow belittled him. But when they hit me, I don't stay in debt. for I am used not to be a coward, but to answer like that. As they say - whoever attacks us with a sword will receive from the sword. (Received - added from himself) :)))
                      7. +2
                        12 May 2013 17: 54
                        I’ll add, maybe you didn’t pay attention to the nickname, but then having figured out who wrote, they minuscated, although I didn’t minus you
  3. +17
    11 May 2013 10: 29
    Medvedev is Gorbachev V 2.0.
    1. +4
      11 May 2013 10: 32
      Quote: Chuck-Norris
      Medvedev is Gorbachev V 2.0.
      In in, and their place is on the "dustbin of history", together with Nikolai 2, Khrushchev ...
    2. +2
      11 May 2013 12: 45
      Which one is Gorbachev? He at least took responsibility and made decisions. And this one? Ponte, BMW and delirium throughout the country.
      1. +3
        11 May 2013 14: 14
        Well, if the anti-alcohol campaign is a decision, then yes, I did. Glasnost and pluralism with perestroika were taught / forced to accept by Americans. So it would be better if he accepted something else.
        I am awaiting an official response from the Prosecutor's Office and the Supreme Court regarding the legal assessment of all his "decisions". Such an assessment should be made.
  4. niskifss
    -16
    11 May 2013 10: 38
    Medvedev has one plus, the deployment of troops to North Ossetia, let's not forget about it
    1. +20
      11 May 2013 10: 43
      Quote: niskifss
      Medvedev has one plus, the deployment of troops to North Ossetia, let's not forget about it
      Well, yes, it’s just not yet known who really gave that command ...
      1. +4
        11 May 2013 11: 04
        Sergey, good morning, there on a nearby branch a drone was shot down again.
      2. +8
        11 May 2013 12: 51
        Quote: svp67
        it’s not yet known WHO really gave that command ...

        I agree! + how many lives of their peacekeepers cost 1 day of delay! there is an interesting film on this topic - "The Lost Day" After all, they knew everything in advance and everything was ready, but the day was lost on calls to Beijing!
    2. +6
      11 May 2013 10: 51
      instead of Putin introduced .. rushing from the Olympics?
      1. rolik
        +23
        11 May 2013 11: 10
        Quote: arkgrz
        instead of whether Putin introduced .. rushing from the Olympics?

        No, he just called from China, inserted magic lyuli to two imbitsilami (Taburetkin and Kinderyphone) and only then the army went. And so the whole day was lost, while these two pretzels sat and stared at each other. Afraid to once again move.
        1. Patriot of Russia
          -5
          11 May 2013 12: 11
          Quote: rolik
          No, he just called from China, inserted magic lyuli to two imbitsilami (Taburetkin and Kinderyphone) and only then the army went.

          like small children. again our hero saved everyone.
          the army and militias began to give the enemy a decisive rebuff even without rotten Kremlin orders
          1. +2
            11 May 2013 14: 20
            Patriot Rus- change your mind. Have you ever served in the army? Unanimity is its basic principle. Without a leadership role, all these attempts will be short-lived and meaningless.
            I’ll think for myself, well, they began to fight back on their own, enough for a couple of days. And then? What will they eat, looting in the surrounding villages? Where will they get ammunition? Fight the Germans in battle? And who will treat the wounded and who will repair the equipment? So you can counteract only a handful of looters and bandits, and not an upscale German car, which our army, led by the Supreme, broke, and which the whole country helped
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        2. +5
          11 May 2013 12: 14
          Well, at least Medvedev commented as follows:

          -Dmitry Anatolyevich, ... the question that is asked, sorry, is all our colleagues: who called whom, are you Vladimir Vladimirovich in Beijing or is he from Beijing? How did you agree with the prime minister?

          -D. Medvedev: You know, to be honest, no one called anyone. We contacted him a day later.

          -After a day?

          D. Medvedev: A day later. I have already given all orders. Everything was already blazing there. Vladimir Vladimirovich simply made a statement that we categorically do not accept this, of course, he did the right thing.
          1. rolik
            0
            13 May 2013 13: 20
            Quote: Gleb
            Well, at least Medvedev commented as follows:

            You know, and I don't believe this .... person. Not a single word of his, about his merits in that company. You can say whatever you want ... but the things do not correspond a little to the words of this "savior".
    3. +9
      11 May 2013 11: 18
      Medvedev introduced, very late, when many peacekeepers, residents, and Georgians had already killed people for 08.08.08 hours ... a movie was released on YouTube - Lost day of the war, the whole truth about the war XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ....
      1. +9
        11 May 2013 12: 56
        Quote: Denis
        Medvedev introduced, very late, when many peacekeepers, residents, and Georgians had already killed people for 08.08.08 hours ... a movie was released on YouTube - Lost day of the war, the whole truth about the war XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX ....

        But Israel, in the place of Russia, would certainly inflict a preemptive strike on the Georgian troops, they don’t care how the world reacts to their attacks, which cannot be said about our authorities - we had to wait until the Georgians were atrocious about what to show the world, and then late to send troops .
        1. djon3volta
          +2
          11 May 2013 13: 51
          Quote from astra
          they don’t care how the world reacts to their blows

          Israel has Americans behind him, and everyone knows this, that's why he behaves arrogantly. As a saber-haired girl jumps out, bites and runs away into the bushes. That's the kind of Israel he is.
          1. +12
            11 May 2013 14: 19
            Quote: djon3volta
            Israel has the Americans behind,

            But we don’t need to hide behind our backs, there is a good army and nuclear weapons. An example of the USSR shows that there was political will, they did what they considered necessary, without looking back to the west
        2. 0
          11 May 2013 14: 18
          Moreover, if we talk about Israel, then one of these attacks would have been at the residence of the President of Georgia in Tbilisi. But we could not do this in that situation. That is, of course it is possible, in the sense that we wouldn’t have anything for it, but it was not in our long-term interests to do so.
    4. dejura2
      +7
      11 May 2013 11: 19
      In August 2008, troops were brought into South Ossetia and it’s not a fact that, according to the decision of Medvedev.
    5. 0
      11 May 2013 11: 58
      You made a mistake. In South Ossetia.
    6. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +7
      11 May 2013 12: 07
      Surely under pressure + there will not go anywhere !!! It is NECESSARY TO JUDGE HIM FOR DELAY !!! How many died per day? !!! SC..KA !!!
    7. -2
      11 May 2013 12: 11
      AND IF IT WOULD ENTER A MILITARY, IT WAS TO LEAVE EVERYTHING AS IS, ONLY DON'T NEED QUICK ANSWERS, THINK
    8. +4
      11 May 2013 15: 28
      Quote: niskifss
      Medvedev has one plus, the deployment of troops to North Ossetia, let's not forget about it

      To the South. Tskhinval is the capital of South Ossetia. North - Vladikavkaz, and this is Russia. I don’t remember anyone that Georgians would come into our territory.
      1. +4
        11 May 2013 16: 58
        Take a walk around Moscow wassat
        There is half of Georgia, along with all their thieves "in law".
    9. +5
      11 May 2013 17: 34
      Quote: niskifss
      Medvedev has one plus, the deployment of troops to North Ossetia, let's not forget about it


      what Libya passed, also a plus think ?!

      watch the video, you look, it will open your eyes

      1. -1
        12 May 2013 09: 57
        Quote: Apollon
        what Libya passed, also a plus think ?!

        watch the video, you look, it will open your eyes

        It looks like Medvedev has a serious American roof .... a puppet dwarf.
  5. +11
    11 May 2013 10: 39
    I believe that in the near future the tandem will come Khan. The government should not be in this composition.
    1. +3
      11 May 2013 11: 33
      The khan came to this tandem when Medvedev was already a year as president at the helm ...
      Sly, as Nemtsov said there? "To overthrow Putin and Medvedev will hold fair elections" ... was covered thoroughly, or maybe the intrigues of the "liberals" are a typical provocation.
      Although he has a pretty stigma in POOH ....
      And with Ossetia, yes, there was Putin’s decision. Luzhkov, Medvedev, did not set anything at all, perfectly understood that he was just a doll, just like Kudrin.
      I think it will survive until the new year, I wonder who has any forecasts? Share it! request what
  6. Fin
    +16
    11 May 2013 10: 40
    An absolutely useless person for the country. He loves himself in power, does not see mistakes, and if they are pointed out, then he does the opposite. The depiction of violent activity only hinders and harms. He apparently forgot that he was put in a place to guard in due time. In this position, you need to work, and not spank with your tongue, and often not "to the cashier", "training down" did not pass.
    1. IgWest
      +4
      11 May 2013 13: 43
      Right! As was Dimon, so Dimon remained.
  7. +22
    11 May 2013 10: 41
    As they say without comment!
  8. RUS
    RUS
    0
    11 May 2013 10: 42
    We are waiting for Kudrin ...
  9. -8
    11 May 2013 10: 46
    And Medvedev is quite a nice type to me! Most of all, tantrums are touched with a claim about the transfer of hours - already this mega-problem had to be left over, so if all the other claims do not work, then enter the main caliber))
    1. Fin
      +4
      11 May 2013 11: 21
      Quote: bddrus
      Most of all, tantrums are touched with a claim about the transfer of hours - already this mega-problem had to be left over, so if all the other claims do not work, then enter the main caliber))


      This is just one of his "cute" nonsense, but which touched almost everyone.
      You probably do not work in the morning. Wake up the children at 6.30 - 7.00, send them to the school in the dark (roads to cross), where they will sleep for another hour in class. And millions of football fans? Champions League and Europe from Tuesday to Thursday, the result of three days of sleep 4-5 hours. Which of me is an employee?
      At first glance, this problem is a trifle hour, hour here, but it speaks of how thoughtful Medvedev's decisions are, and one can imagine the amount of incompetence (sabotage) in all sectors of the economy and life of the country.
      1. -1
        11 May 2013 17: 56
        It's stupidity to think that Medvedev was puzzled by the cancellation of the clock. do you really believe in the problem of lagging behind space time? considering that in some countries the same time regardless of the territory and live! and in our country - people can live in neighboring cities and at different times - while the change of day / night is the same for them! About the kids - would you go to the swamp square with this "sentimental" theme - if you change the time for an hour, then the children will not have to get up at 6-30 and sleep in the classroom?
        1. Fin
          0
          11 May 2013 21: 03
          Quote: bddrus
          It's stupidity to think that Medvedev was puzzled by the cancellation of the clock. do you really believe in the problem of lagging behind space time? considering that in some countries the same time regardless of the territory and live! and in our country - people can live in neighboring cities and at different times - while the change of day / night is the same for them! About kids - would you go to the swamp area with this sentimental "theme - if you change the time for an hour, then the children will not have to get up at 6-30 and sleep in the classroom?

          You probably don’t know how he tried to bring everything back, but he does not know how to be puzzled. Space time does not interest me at all, I look at the street, at the state of my children in the morning, as well as at myself and thank the great statesman very much. At the expense of the kids, take an interest in those who have them. If the problem does not concern you, do not meddle.
          A swamp here and?
  10. +13
    11 May 2013 10: 48
    Greetings to all, in my opinion D.A. Medvedev is well aware that his political career has no future and is trying to rock the boat. He cannot go into open confrontation and sabotage please. It is always easier to catch fish in troubled waters. I am more inclined to believe that he started his game. But where does the common people here, why should he suffer ?!

    1. Kaa
      +2
      11 May 2013 13: 07
      Quote: Apollon
      .I am more inclined to the fact that he began his game
      I would, with your permission, clarify the people behind it. Here is a reason for reflection, drawn by one of the groups of analysts: "President of the communication holding Minchenko consulting Yevgeny Minchenko and head of the analytical department of the International Institute of Political Expertise (IIPE) Kirill Petrov presented a large-scale report" The Big Government of Vladimir Putin and Politburo 2.0 " more than 60 experts were interviewed - representatives of the country's political and business elite. The version of the study is presented on the website of the Minchenko Consulting holding. "Data for 2011-early 2012, in the current reality, a little outdated (Surkov, Serdyukov, Shoigu and some others have already changed their location), but in general, it shows which of the xy to the moment of the last elections. Clickable.
      1. Kaa
        +1
        11 May 2013 13: 18
        Quote: Kaa
        who of hu at the time of the last election

        And here is a schematic diagram of who they rely on, who orders the “rules of the game.” The results of the study show that instead of a tandem, Russia is led by a conglomerate of competing clans. “While preserving the already existing groups of influence, Vladimir Putin is experimenting with the introduction of new players on the field who would act in the role of either apolitical technocratic performers tied personally to him (for example, Interior Minister V. Kolokoltsev and Minister of Economic Development A. Belousov), or as carriers of alternative political platforms (the "Popular Front" - "United Russia" dichotomy, quasi-oppositional projects of Alexei Kudrin and Mikhail Prokhorov, "thematic" pro-government projects of D. Rogozin, I. Kholmanskikh and V. Yakemenko) ", - experts believe. The diversification of management when V. Putin returned to the post of President of the Russian Federation occurs due to the complication of the unwritten system of" checks and counterbalances "within the elite. In the event of a crisis, the authorities have two reserve platforms: the right-wing liberal and the left, the people's triotic. In case of difficulties, the right-wing liberal scene will have to be captured by Mikhail Prokhorov and A. Kudrin, while on the left, hopes are pinned on the ONF and Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. In both cases, the teams will be ready to offer their own version of "saving" the government. In parallel, experiments are continuing in the existing controlled political groups. At this point, the reactionary scenario is likely to win. In this case, there will be a "radical orthodoxy" of the authorities, a forceful suppression of the opposition and a course of opposing the West. http://alternathistory.org.ua/politbyuro-20-eksperty-rasskazali-kto-pravit-rossi
        ei
        As it can be seen, the SPHERES OF PUTIN AND MEDVEDEV DO NOT INTERCUT, SO THERE ARE NONE OF THEY "TANDEM"
  11. +11
    11 May 2013 10: 49
    Well, if you analyze everything that Medvedev has done for all the time in power, then honestly, there’s not so much good. Personally, my opinion. He is very liberal and looks at the Americans.
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 11: 07
      Whether I said it or not, I don’t remember, but of all the achievements of the plush in power, the only thing that is not negative is that he “muddied” the iPhone (although this is the level of a young gopnik, but it seems that he did not spend the achievement and money from the budget)
    2. UFO
      +19
      11 May 2013 11: 10
      If at all, what is there? As you wish, gentlemen are good, but DON'T PUSH Dimon at the premiere of Great Country. Neither externally, nor intellectually, nor in any way can I represent him on government posts of a similar scale. Here it looks like a press secretary, NOT MORE! Although, if you recall Yastrzhembsky, then Dimon loses to him in all respects, so it remains only the dismissal from power, as it did not justify the trust and illegally transferred the time (by stupidity). It is advisable to ban government posts for 21 centuries. wink
      1. +4
        11 May 2013 14: 11
        Yes, and he does not pull on Dimon, rather Mitka.
  12. +10
    11 May 2013 10: 58
    I completely agree with the author of the article. Even if you look at Citizen Medvedev (at least on the report in the Duma), contempt for all those gathered shows through. God forbid he will meet again for president !!!!
  13. fenix57
    +5
    11 May 2013 11: 00
    " So, let's fix it: Medvedev believes that ministers should be liked not by citizens, but by his friends, while Putin says that one should be guided by the opinion of citizens. "- a very serious "game", and what if the result of the game is polling in the American way, "impeachment" is the resignation of GDP.
    And this is the "end" not only to RUSSIA as a state, but also to Russians, as a PEOPLE IN GENERAL ... Maybe "Law No. 86-90 of the US Congress (1959):" ... the United States should strive to dismember Soviet monster for 22 states. ”Among them, in addition to Ukraine, Belarus and other republics of the Union, Siberia, the Far East, Idel-Ural, Kazakia are named.
    1. -1
      11 May 2013 12: 55
      Considering that Putin held fair elections (hordes of observers and CCTV systems ensured that the elections were open and that there wasn’t anything for the foreigners to agree with the results) and the majority of the people support it, and the opinion of the government falls, then after such an impeachment, government officials will most likely quickly they will go to Vnukovo to their planes in order to drive off the hill, without getting into the loop here)
    2. +4
      11 May 2013 13: 10
      Stop thickening the clouds! "The End of Russia", etc. The peasants have nowhere to work, all prices are steadily climbing up, education is turning into God knows what. And all this against the background of our mediocre leaders and multi-billion dollar thefts! Now, if everything were the other way around, then no one would have remembered about any "collapse of the country"! Is there really no one in Russia besides these two "lights"? I will never believe it! And the sooner they leave, the better for the country!
  14. +4
    11 May 2013 11: 03
    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is upset when he sees criticism and familiarity on the Internet.
    This was reported by his press secretary, Natalya Timakova, in an interview with the Voice of Rossi radio station.
    “Sometimes he is upset, especially given that the Internet, unfortunately, like the rest of society, sometimes, to put it mildly, does not behave quite correctly,” said Timakova. - He is upset even sometimes not because of some harsh criticism. If the criticism is constructive and to the point, then this is quite normal. "There were quite a few cases when something read or seen made him then give some instructions or make additional decisions."
    At the same time, she added that the saddest thing for Medvedev is rudeness. “I don’t understand people who, conditionally, write on Facebook:“ Well, Dimon, you’ve done well, lit. ” He is not “Dimon” to you. He is the chairman of the government. It is not necessary to call him Dmitry Anatolyevich, but can you at least Dmitry to “you”? These are good manners, ”the spokeswoman added.
    1. +10
      11 May 2013 12: 35
      Quote: Gleb
      He is not Dimon. He is the chairman of the government.

      I always believed that respect must be earned, and why respect the prime minister, who is ingratiatingly looking into the amerov's president's zenk and how an unwise person rejoices in the presented iPhone! So the rules of good manners do not apply to "Dimonov", even if he temporary chairman of the government.
      1. -1
        11 May 2013 18: 12
        And if, given that you really don't want the premiere at all, call you simply "" - or even worse - all the more respect you do not deserve?
        1. +3
          12 May 2013 00: 39
          Quote: bddrus
          And if, given that you really don't want the premiere at all, call you simply "" - or even worse - all the more respect you do not deserve?

          My close friend!
          I would like to draw your attention to the fact that I am not a public person and I am not at the top of power, I do not represent our country abroad, etc. Therefore, you cannot judge me either positively or negatively. I also want to note that the article was about a lover of free iPhones, and not about me.
  15. djon3volta
    -5
    11 May 2013 11: 06
    “Medvedev’s main goal is to do as much harm to the country as possible”

    I’m wondering - if Medvedev is harming the country, then he is doing it on purpose, consciously? If on purpose, then why? Does he hate the country or is he recruited by Western intelligence agencies? Maybe he’s just stupid and thinks that his decrees are correct, well, like I so I think that I’m right. In other countries, they also make stupid decisions, well, take France, for example, did Oland specifically legalize same-sex marriage? Like Oland is an enemy of France and he is recruited? Or China to take - China currently holds about $ 3,2 trillion in foreign exchange reserves of other countries, does Xi Jinping turn out to be an enemy of China and the Chinese? If you think with simple logic, then in every country there are enemies of the state, are they recruited by someone or hate their countries? what
    1. -5
      11 May 2013 11: 17
      Well, as they say, "the one who does nothing at all is not mistaken."
      1. djon3volta
        -4
        11 May 2013 11: 48
        Quote: dimon-media
        "the one who does nothing at all is not mistaken."

        Well, since - Medvedev specifically harms, or by accident? What is your opinion? specifically or accidentally?
        1. stranik72
          +9
          11 May 2013 13: 49
          No, not on purpose, he is just Mr. NOBODY, he has not led anything or anyone in his life, he was close to VVP, he is his pale shadow to divert criticism from VVP and guard the throne. In life, his achievement and that is dubious, this is admission to graduate school at Leningrad University, and then at some point he was at the "right time and in the right place" that's his whole career, he even did not wear a jacket in the army, a gray personality , a tweeter and an iPhone, his credo. But GDP covers masterfully, this LADY is considered narrow-minded and almost an enemy, and GDP is the same CSO-GO. Although in fact it is the same thing only in 2 persons.
          1. djon3volta
            -4
            11 May 2013 14: 22
            stranik72 you didn’t answer in your post - Medvedev deliberately or accidentally harms the country. although you wrote - not specifically, that is, accidentally means? well, like a bad politician, a manager, not very smart, so he was wrong? By logic, it turns out, judging by your feedback.

            I just want to find out if someone still answers clearly and intelligently - if specifically, then share your opinion. If by accident, then share your opinion. But just don’t have to leave the topic, I have specific questions - Medvedev is doing harm by accident or specially.
            1. stranik72
              +2
              11 May 2013 19: 53
              djon3volta
              Logic is not your subject, it is "not on purpose and not by chance" it simply DOES NOT GIVE:
              1. The level of competence and experience, life and professional (passing posts and real achievements) does not correspond to the position.
              2. He is not a leader by character.
              3. He does not have the qualities of a manager, when you clearly imagine what you should do yourself and what only your subordinates do, he cannot pick up a team for the goals and in the process lead this team.
              4. And most importantly, he is an intermediary in life, between someone and something, inclined to accept other people's ideas without any serious analysis (time, Norway, police, judicial reform), I won’t be surprised if he is henpecked in the family.
              And personally, my opinion is that he is not a Russian in spirit, he does not understand the country of Russia and despises her at heart.
              Something like this.
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              1. djon3volta
                -1
                11 May 2013 21: 00
                Quote: Normal
                the tandem continues to fulfill its primary function.

                what function do they continue to perform? why don't the West and the United States like Putin, what do you think? For the sake of appearances, what would we think - oh, they don’t like us, so we are going the right way! And any criticism of the West and the United States is all dust in the eye? and the opposition in the person of Nemtsov, Udaltsov, Navaltsov and so on is also dust in the eyes? Are they deceiving us more, are we naive? And those who criticize Putin want to open our eyes to us, but we stubborn sheep do not want to listen to them? Putin? They are the lights of truth? So what? lol If you overthrow Putin, then paradise will come almost immediately and we will live rightly as in the USSR and richly as in the UAE? laughing
                1. +2
                  12 May 2013 01: 25
                  Quote: djon3volta
                  What function do they continue to perform?


                  Come on, John! Tighten your brains - guess three times.

                  Quote: djon3volta
                  why do not the West and the United States like Putin?


                  Because "the West and the United States do not love" (what word, that is, love but not to the end, do not give love - do not love laughing) all those who usurp power and are going to rule forever. The fact is that the ruling person loses his sense of proportion for life, thinks that he is great and irreplaceable, begins to rave about his exclusivity, becomes manically suspicious and, accordingly, dangerous to others.
                  Quote: djon3volta
                  for the sake of appearances, what would we think - oh, they don’t love us, so we are going the right way! and any criticism of the West and the USA is all dust in the eye?


                  Well, see, John! Brain works! Almost guessed, but that's not all.

                  Quote: djon3volta
                  and the opposition in the person of Nemtsov, Udaltsov, Navaltsov and so on is also dust in the eyes?


                  Do you seriously think that this is the opposition? What Nemtsov, Kudrin and Sobchak opposition to Putin? Or that Udaltsov and Navalny is a serious threat to GDP? Well don't make people laugh, John.

                  Quote: djon3volta
                  and those who criticize Putin want to open our eyes to us, but we stubborn sheep do not want to listen to them?


                  Just imagine that it is so; They want to open your eyes, but you, like a stubborn ram, do not want to listen to anything.

                  Quote: djon3volta
                  Anyway, you need to believe those who criticize Putin? Are they the lights of truth? So what?

                  Well, believe it or not - it's up to you, but you have to listen, and not shout "Glory to Putin!" What if there is a fair amount of truth in the criticism of Putin? In any case, there are more truths than in the speeches of the Radiant

                  Quote: djon3volta
                  êàî if you overthrow Putin, then almost immediately there will come a paradise

                  Paradise, John will not come even if Putin is not overthrown. Paradise, it is generally for the righteous believers and only after death.
                  Quote: djon3volta
                  will we live rightly as in the USSR and richly as in the UAE?

                  Well, this is unlikely, but we must strive for this.
            3. +4
              11 May 2013 20: 23
              Quote: djon3volta
              Medvedev accidentally or deliberately harms.

              That is, Medvedev obviously harms even John.
              Progress, however ....
              Accidentally? Of course not. After all, the GDP chose him, and as is commonly believed, Putin understands people.
              So on purpose. The President is satisfied with Medvedev's work. This means that Putin is not accidental, but on purpose. He was also selected for certain functions. The fact that the GDP has somewhat "exceeded" its powers solely for personal purposes does not change the main thing; the tandem continues to fulfill its main function.
      2. UFO
        +7
        11 May 2013 12: 00
        Not a position where you can be wrong! His mistakes are too costly, let him "experiment" with his wife! Yes
  16. +6
    11 May 2013 11: 14
    Honestly, "Vedmed" pisses me off. He never inspired me to trust .. He's kind of slippery ..
    1. +7
      11 May 2013 11: 24
      he's kind of "slippery" ..

      sugary, powdered)
      1. +1
        11 May 2013 11: 26
        with "notes" of glamor)))
        1. vitold777
          0
          12 May 2013 16: 16
          Remember, as in "Brother-2": he is some kind of sugary, Romanian in one word.
      2. +3
        11 May 2013 13: 00
        all powdered like a woman)

  17. +7
    11 May 2013 11: 24
    IMHO, Medvedev was only temporarily "guardian of the throne" while Crabe pretended to live according to the constitution. Not only he "kept", but promoted as much as he could! For example, an increase in terms.
    Yuzali it on principles \ as well as SERDYUKOV. Accordingly, they didn’t merge him, but stuck him in the post, notice (!), After the reign, which still doesn’t solve anything with such ... such an arrangement he was digging in the institutions of power ...
  18. +3
    11 May 2013 11: 35
    Quote: avt
    Twitter Aifonovich All Medvedydev - Gorbachev second edition shattered and otifonenny.

    I prefer Stovattny nano-IPhone player or Nedimon) Although the idea of ​​switching to energy-saving technologies is not bad, although not completely thought out. The whole house was transferred to diode lamps and so far I do not regret it)). But as far as the GDP gives the impression of a serious person (and not only produces, but is) it so much DAM gives the impression of a dull jerboa ... And after the police, winter time and do not want to talk about him.
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  19. +5
    11 May 2013 11: 39
    Is Medvedev Putin's mistake? Or a setup for unpopular reforms?
    In any case, Medvedev is not a leader, but having tasted the sweetness of power provided by Putin, he imagines himself to be a “half-napolian”.
    In all his speeches, the pronoun "I" was very often sounded. In Russia, and when "I-Kolkov" was not liked. There is a saying - "I, I am the head yut h.ya"
    Now, Medvedev and his entourage are targeting 2118, so they are trying to ruin the program of the current president (now a rival). Putin has pointed this out twice in a year; the third time will probably be the last. "Yakalka" will force him to join the opposition, not realizing that he is not a leader, but another - "Nemtsovo-Kasyanov", that is, a political corpse.
  20. +3
    11 May 2013 11: 44
    IPhone is a Cossack of America. Everything does so that the country goes to the bottom. Judge for yourself:
    1. renaming the police to the police,
    2.fighting bureaucrats (there are more of them every year, during the Soviet Union there were fewer of them at times).
    3. education reform - our education is now below the plinth (it’s good that I did not introduce a paid elementary).
    4. Projects of the Skolkovo type - the purest cut of money (in Novosibirsk, Tomsk and other cities have remained, pick them up already).
    Further more!!! There are more than enough such examples.
    Drive iPhone to America's neck, let it upgrade there !!!!!
  21. -3
    11 May 2013 11: 48
    Crap. "If the minister benefits the industry, he will be popular in the industry." The author has clearly never managed anything. The principle of popularity leads to the power of flattering demagogues, does the author really not know this? The principle of elective directors ruined thousands of factories producing products vital for the country - and the author does not know this ?!
    Yes, Medvedev uses the wrong criteria in his work. It has already become possible to hear statements from the ministers like "we work well because ... we submit reports and make reports on time"! We replaced the work with order in the papers ... but the philippics set forth by the author are much more harmful. Would aircraft designers let themselves out of sharashki? Yes, it would be okay, but would they have prolonged for themselves, for a variety of objective (and really existing!) Reasons, the development and implementation deadlines? The terribly unpopular Lavrenty Pavlovich didn't listen to them ... and the USSR had planes that broke the enemy.
    The author is simply a part of the propaganda machine that is struggling to stick democracy into our soft underbelly - a state system constructed in the SGA (they themselves have never, under any circumstances, used it and never will, have not gone mad yet) to suppress and destroy geo-political competitors . Any country that uses democracy honestly is doomed to ever greater lag and stagnation, eventually leading to its destruction. Any large system that applies democracy as a principle determining existence is doomed to destruction. This article is an attempt to deeper introduce the principles of self-destruction into our consciousness.
  22. +9
    11 May 2013 11: 53
    The premiere of Putin will not replace. Such a step would mean the collapse of all his actions. So they’ll go to the bottom - a tandem ... A knowledgeable and sensible Putin is not needed - this can be dangerous to maintain his power. So he keeps such ....
    1. DPN
      +4
      11 May 2013 13: 20
      I put ++ correctly noticed
    2. djon3volta
      -8
      11 May 2013 14: 59
      Quote: piston
      Knowing and sensible Putin does not need

      So Surkov was smart and sensible? laughing Surkov prepares Putin's dismissal :In the current situation in the Russian political world, only Surkov poses a real threat to Putin’s presidency.

      Surkov is the one who can challenge Putin a real challenge. And in a political vacuum, he will hide behind Medvedev as the only political heavyweight in the country, besides Putin, using him as a battering ram for the “within the law” and, ideally, Putin’s parliamentary removal from power. Something similar was planned at the time by Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who bought up deputies of all without ideological analysis of the fractions - from Yabloko to the Communist Party.

      http://politobzor.net/show-234-surkov-gotovit-smeschenie-putina.html

      Some suspicions that the “split” is moving to a new level arose last week, when Surkov, speaking at the London School of Economics, said that a large rival party to United Russia would be useful.

      Everything finally came together: Surkov's confidants - Vasily Yakimenko and Nikita Ivanov, with the support of Gleb Pavlovsky, who was sad and sad, talked about creating such a party at the very beginning of the party orgy, invented by Medvedev, and now, after Surkov’s statements, everything fell into place places. “Party of power”, “Smart Russia” - they were discussed about a year ago, and now it seems that these projects are the time to get “from the archive”.

      If Vladimir Putin finally decides to dismiss Medvedev and his liberal government, he will be blackmailed by the new "Party of Power", where Surkov will gather all officials offended by Putin who have been "affected" by anti-corruption purges. Pavlovsky already once completed a similar scheme, creating the Union of Right Forces (SPS) and collecting all the dissatisfied former liberal officials - Yegor Gaidar, Sergey Kiriyenko, Boris Nemtsov, Irina Khakamada, Anatoly Chubais. Then he also acted under the supervision of Surkov.
  23. Apsui
    +4
    11 May 2013 11: 59
    Both of them are "galley slaves" .. The sooner they sink, the better for Russia.
  24. pinecone
    +8
    11 May 2013 12: 07
    A cardboard figure that does not have any political goals, but only executes the decisions of its puppeteers. A valuable shot for them.
  25. work566
    +10
    11 May 2013 12: 10
    I recall the words of Medvedev, abandoned by him in the first year
    his "presidency" in a polemic with Chemezov: "My words are cast in granite."
    This phrase indicates that he is an upstart, His level-
    a teacher in a mediocre university. Of course, this is a mistake of GDP.
    Sooner or later he will have to be dismissed from his post as prime minister.
    It would be better now. Then the country's economy will be in a more difficult
    condition. What this person offers is, to put it mildly, inappropriate.
    I will list some. On the construction of the second Moscow in the Moscow region
    there is simply no money. Carrying out the second after the Chubais large-scale privatization-
    crime. With this idea, he rushes like a maniac. It is clear that Dvorkovich is behind this idea,
    and he studied in the West and is connected with Western circles. Americans urgently need somewhere
    attach printed wrappers, which they call dollars.
    Moreover, this will deprive Russia of vestiges of sovereignty over its economy.
    The people consider the first privatization thieves and refers to this as well.
    They do not want to listen to the opinion of the people. Cho to listen to it, people are ""!
    What difference does it knowingly he does, or out of stupidity.
    If Russia sprinkles, they will attach him to some American university.
    And we live here. I believe that he is an ENEMY!
  26. +19
    11 May 2013 12: 13
    Medvedev Surkov Putin-these are all false goals ....
    Our state sincerely believes that it exists not for the public good, but for the personal enrichment of Kremlin officials (shuvalov, dvorkovich, sechin, ....)) The Soviet legacy is being plundered from hydrocarbons to Culture, up to the habit of Good Faith ... The legacy is being privatized on the principle of stolen in a million, and destroyed in the course of billions ....
    A mixture of exceptionally high oil prices and the tolerance of the Russian people will allow this state-to exist for some time to come, but it is toxic, it will be diluted with the responsibility of certain names like Medvedev-idiot (by the way, this article is something similar)))
    The fact is that corruption in our country is not just the basis of the welfare of officials_ it is the basis of the political system ... its foundation and bond ... They talk a lot about mistakes, but the error continues for a generation - this is not a mistake_ This is a strategy !!!!
    And now ask a question - Who personifies all this)))))
    Think People, not everything is just like that, although everything is in sight ......
    The joint work of People unites, but the joint theft all the same divides people, since each is in its own hole ...
    Marmot in his))) wanted to play his own game ?????
    Abram was interrogated at the FBI, leaked everything, left to give birth to an American citizen))
    comrade Taimuraz Bolloev - he pulled everything into an unknown "hole" for which he was obstructed)))

    Remember the joke?
    Plumbing asked what are you sitting for?
    Yes, the political I! Somehow they called me to the district party committee, to look at the sewer. And I take it and say:
    -Yes, the system needs to be changed))))
    1. lars
      +4
      11 May 2013 13: 11
      That's right, Asgard!
      The people again fell for this ... uh, how to put it more intelligently, a discussion on the assessment of "politicians".
      These are zits-chairmen, we will not see puppeteers.
      And the plumber suffered for a reason.
  27. +3
    11 May 2013 12: 24
    [quote = Patriot of Russia] [quote = author] Medvedev's main goal is to do as much harm to the country as possible [/ quote] (successfully implemented to this day)
    Here you are wrong, Medvedev's goal is to grab as much as possible and give his employees the opportunity to continue to turn the people of the Russian Federation into a herd of slaves, for the future "elite" of the Russian Federation. For this, Serdyukov was put in to weaken the Armed Forces; the Ministry of Education - to limit the opportunity to receive education for non-"elite" strata of society; Ministry of Health for the "withdrawal" of the ineffective and now unnecessary "elite" people.
  28. -4
    11 May 2013 12: 24
    Chernyakhovsky? And when they managed to let him out of the asylum?
  29. V. Ushakov
    +2
    11 May 2013 12: 29
    Medvedev? I always said, wrote in all forums, this: a) locum tenens, nothing more; b) its real level - associate professor of a department of a peripheral university. Because c) he did not have and does not have qualifications, or even charisma. It is difficult, apparently, to remove it, it has gotten used to, but it is necessary: ​​it does not control the government. So, they will probably clean up, look for and calculate the possibilities.
  30. +4
    11 May 2013 12: 33
    Medvedev clearly knows his level of popularity. The closest entourage certainly tells him that the people on the Internet do not understand him, that Putin substitutes. As a result, he has awesome phobias, he stubbornly and does stupid after stupidity. Pay attention to how frightened he looks, artificially pleased, I would not be surprised if, before going to bed, he suppresses valerian. At the same time, I think that he is not completely stupid and to some extent a patriot. But this is not easier.
    At Medvedev, to study the erroneousness of the law of Murphy (or Parkinson?) That in his career growth a person attains a step one (or two?) Above his competence. Medvedev exceeded his level by five or six steps.
  31. +5
    11 May 2013 12: 35
    If you change the system, then this must be done immediately in all directions. Remove from posts and close cabinets. At the same time, search and set up new people in parallel with the pretext that if they stole the ruble, they were shot. All plant and deal with each separately. Return now to the 37th. They would have shot themselves, and they would not have to wait until they were kicked out.
    Stole, drank - to prison. Romance!
  32. work566
    -1
    11 May 2013 12: 38
    I remember in the early 90s talking in the press and on TV: we are building
    "liberal" model of the economy, "people's capitalism".
    To put it mildly, they deceived. They created a system for a bunch of thieves,
    aimed at withdrawing hundreds of billions of dollars from the country.
    And then the GDP was set to be watched over by this. Medvedev into this system
    also built in remarkably. The press writes that he and his little wife and themselves do not forget.
    Russia faces the need to break this system, otherwise the country will end.
    The country is simply completely crushed and sterilized so that more
    nothing has ever grown here. Such an obstinate people like Russian
    must be exterminated. If the GDP understands this, then it must act.
    The people will support.
  33. -1
    11 May 2013 12: 50
    in my opinion he has a plan to remove Putin's maximum to take his place, a plan to sell the country at least the most efficiently, and fill his pocket.
    What can I say, the last one. intellectual his mother
  34. -5
    11 May 2013 12: 51
    Medvedev is a simple radish doing the will of Satanist thieves who call themselves the elite. So, Putin did not focus on him, but not on his masters. For example, Surkov resigned) And since the list of Surkov's duties also included the preparation of documents-reports on the work "done" by the government, it is logical to conclude that Surkov did not want to become a scapegoat for the fact that the government sabotaged the president by harming Russia and her people, you and me) This most likely means that Putin changed the rules of the game and very soon heads will fly.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      0
      11 May 2013 23: 50
      Blessed is he who believes ....
  35. rks5317
    +5
    11 May 2013 12: 53
    The legal adviser for education and life experience Mendel "Medvedev" was appointed by PAPO for this purpose (however, like other non-professionals - Taburetkin, Golikova, Skrynnik, etc.). To DESTROY RUSSIA .... And see what HE is doing with potential allies ( enemies of the United States) - a contract with Iran for the supply of DEFENSE weapons from the aggressor (SS-300) was concluded and even took an advance of 900 million, but a friend who was a fan of office blowjobs called and the contract was canceled ... about the delivery of the SS-300 .... But then a new friend from Washington called again and another one flew in from London, and yesterday they broadcast on TV that there would be no delivery of the SS-300 to Syria ... Like, do the Jews. with the Arabs and Persians, whatever you want, I do not interfere. Since you will not touch my billions accumulated by slave labor in galleys ...
  36. borisural
    +7
    11 May 2013 12: 54
    I won’t be clever! But on behalf of the People (I am a simple citizen of Russia) I will say WHEN ?? this YPHF iPhone will be removed. This arrogant narcissistic smug. His place is a teacher of some not the best university in his rating.
    1. +5
      11 May 2013 13: 12
      Quote: borisural
      -WHEN?? this iPhone FILM will be removed.

      When the people begin not to resent the keyboard, but to take to the streets with an ax!
    2. 0
      11 May 2013 20: 10
      Quote: borisural
      But on behalf of the People (I am a simple citizen of Russia) I say, WHEN ?? this iPhone BAG will be removed.

      And they will put another bitch, because this power has no bitch.
  37. +4
    11 May 2013 12: 55
    p_u_s_s_k_i_y] If Vladimir Vladimirovich cares so much for the people, then why won't he remove the prime minister from his post?]

    ... do not be so naive - are you still sure that the President appoints ministers and other celestial officials personally or on the advice of his administration? Forget about it!!! MINISTERS AND OTHER ADMINISTRATORS WHO HAVE THE DECISION TO MAKE DECISIONS ON SOMETHING OF SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC LIFE ARE APPOINTED FINANCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROUPS (FIGs), who pay for the election and career growth of an official! And without their approval, no one will take anyone off!
    Look who is with MEDVEDEV all the time, ... a stupid, illiterate, but all-powerful vice-primier for economics - this is looking from one Caucasian financial and industrial group. This FIG, through its compatriot wife of this Deputy Prime Minister, solves a lot of issues. And the privatization of part of the stakes in strategically important and backbone objects (SBERBANK, RZD, AEROFLOT, etc.), at an extremely unprofitable time of low prices, was started only so that representatives of this ethnic FIG could grab fat pieces at a bargain price. In this FIG there are four families - pillars ... one of the pillars of V. PUTIN, it seems, would have knocked out of the saddle after inspecting the construction of the Olympic stadium in ski jumping ... but others are still "on horseback" and are preparing to become even more obese from " the privatization of "packages of tasty morsels of our housekeeper .... That's why they keep an extremely superficial, but mastered TWEETER (whatever the child does, just not to plakolo) premiere!"
  38. DPN
    +3
    11 May 2013 13: 14
    There was such a case, elections were held for governors, a seasoned former governor was going and for refueling, they put forward a young one, thought if the young one would simply give in, but he threw this former one. Yes, and against the background of Medvedev, Putin looks like a national hero. That’s the case for the elections and Medvedev will recover, he will be good and loved. Putin can’t be a tandem without Medvedev!
    The article is correct, only we already live in a different society, the government has its own business, and the people have their own lives.
  39. +1
    11 May 2013 13: 50
    Sergei Chernyakhovsky in his article says: "Good Putin has appointed bad Prime Minister Medvedev to smash his friends, not good ministers. But what is the summary? The article does not have a DOT.
    Or think for yourself? In general, some questions.
  40. StrateG
    +2
    11 May 2013 13: 56
    Is Medvedev Putin's mistake? Or a setup for unpopular reforms?


    Putin put it as insurance for himself, I think. Those decisions that can go to Putin in the negative, he gives Medvedev, who receives well-deserved criticism, and Putin, as it were, with nothing.
  41. 0
    11 May 2013 14: 19
    Hello gentlemen pseudo-patriots -WORD CASES! And they themselves have the courage to sit on this electric
    presidential chair, etc. post? In each team there is such a critin-type of criticism of all. And when you offer him to take the place of the critic, he immediately says -I mean. And such clever people have no suggestions on how to fix the criticized situation.
    1. Melchakov
      +10
      11 May 2013 14: 25
      PPKS. Although not. They have a favorite expression:
      We are 140 million. Is there really no one worthy?
      And so everywhere. They shout "Gorbachev destroyed the USSR, Yeltsin destroyed Russia." Sorry, but who, through their actions and inaction, gave them to do this ?! You are "patriots", you swore an oath, why did you not defend the Council when it was shot? They wanted freedom and sausage, on those, choke.
      1. +7
        11 May 2013 15: 07
        Well, a.hamster55 ... is it very - Constructive? criticize the critics?
        And to sit on ... an electropresidential chair?
        ...
        Suggest ... sit down ...
        The misunderstanding comes from the fact that neither Putin nor Medvedev represent the realities of Russia.
        Ministers - also ... neither ear nor snout .. do not rummage in the setting.
        R E L O N - setting.
        These are just MANAGERS. Top managers.
        Managers - implement Projects. If the project is implemented (with acceptable losses !!!! which may be different) - the manager is successful. You can continue to use it ... use.
        They do not own information. More precisely - this real info - they don’t need for nothing. In the implementation of saw-saw-transfers.
        Well, they reported to the Manager that Mary Ivanna from Zazhopinsk is still not provided with housing, although she is a war hero. And what is a reason, headlong to the Manager to sort out the situation? "This is not a king's business, I will order - vie .....".
        He - implements - PROJECT. Not a hut for Mary Ivanov.
        ...
        Who Projects ... designs?
        Committee of 300?
        ...
        So what to do?
        I would start with the command - "FAS".
        Take all, filter by the method - a file on the teeth.
        Surviving - to raise production in Siberia. KATEK to revive.
        Return trillions to Russia. Those. - actually bring down the entire financial system of the world.
        Russia is a self-sufficient country.
        And those who do not want ... a member to suck, instead of Pepsi ... or let him agree with Russia on peace-friendship-cooperation.
        Or let him take the risk - to prevent ...
        ..
        Otherwise .... we will suck .. instead of Pepsi.
        1. Melchakov
          +1
          11 May 2013 18: 07
          Are you planning to create a party or organization of some kind? Simply, if you don't like something, you should at least try to change something. And if they stupidly shout "everything is bad" and do nothing, then the situation suits them. EMNIP. The site is full of people. Get organized. Moreover, comrade Nixon, he already has something there.
    2. Fin
      +3
      11 May 2013 14: 55
      Quote: a.hamster55
      Hello gentlemen pseudo-patriots -WORD CASES! And they themselves have the courage to sit on this electric
      presidential chair, etc. post? In each team there is such a critin-type of criticism of all. And when you offer him to take the place of the critic, he immediately says -I mean. And such clever people have no suggestions on how to fix the criticized situation.


      But it seems that everything suits you: new enterprises are being built, jobs are appearing, roads are excellent, the village is rising, salaries and pensions are ahead of inflation, energy and utilities prices are falling, etc. Glory to the Prime Minister !!! Hooray !!!
      If you do not understand, then this is not criticism, but people speak out how they see it. And they see a man who is not in his place. The country is in full ass, and he is happy with everything. Life is a success.
      Everyone sits on a chair according to their abilities, and the offer to go to someone else's place is when there is nothing to say.
      Or give examples of what useful he did?
      1. +1
        11 May 2013 18: 22
        Well, in which ass country? don't you think too much about this? there were no injuries on this basis?
        1. Fin
          0
          11 May 2013 21: 24
          Quote: bddrus
          Well, in which ass country? don't you think too much about this? there were no injuries on this basis?

          Ass - this is the first two lines of my post.
          Study your medical book from an early age, if everything is fine in your opinion.
    3. 0
      11 May 2013 15: 19
      Quote: a.hamster55
      Hello gentlemen pseudo-patriots -WORD CASES! But do they have the guts to sit on this electric chair-presidential and so on post? In each team there is such a critin-type of criticism of all. And when you offer him to take the place of the critic, he immediately says -I mean. And such clever people have no suggestions on how to fix the criticized situation.
    4. Baboon
      +2
      11 May 2013 17: 08
      Why so? you turn on any analytical program or a political duel, there are a lot of specialists there, chatting and chatting. In vain do you think that there are no wiseacres. Air tv is simply filled with them.
      1. +4
        11 May 2013 18: 58
        Guys ...
        I don’t know where you work ... I'm in Gazprom. a signalman. And all these latent, quiet things ... I learned to catch only on such incomprehensible .. to whom parameter - will-or-not .. selector Guide.
        By the way, a very informative source.
        You listen, listen ... this nonsense ... of the high bosses ... and - DO NOT IMAGINE - emerges ... a gigantic system ... N. Aebalovka ... Sawing ... Theft ... "NATIONAL DESTINATION" ...
        ...
        as if I had opened the eyes of someone ... Stepashin said - "After the audits at Gazprom, a lot of interesting things await us."
        ...
        So, they say correctly - "God does not give horns to a vigorous cow."
        I, though not a cow ...
        but .. I would have cramped ... everyone.
        Moreover - here they are ... all in plain sight ... fools ...
  42. stranik72
    +5
    11 May 2013 14: 20
    "Kvachkov and Budanov are worthy candidates for prime ministers of Russia ??????
    no comment"
    Who knows, Medvedev was no one, look who the stooltkin was or the manturov where he got out from, any minister is practically nowhere and nothing, the country is not in the ass, and these people had at least some experience of management and war behind them, so everything could be. But it did not happen, so the answer can be anything. And about LADIES, the answer is clear "not a hat for Senka."
  43. +2
    11 May 2013 14: 32
    But his "black Barack" at McDonald's treated him, "pumped up Arnold" took a picture with him and gave an autograph, and "the now deceased" super-rich Steve "gave an iPhone and there immediately" bumblebees flew ".
    He can also dance to American Boys ...
  44. -1
    11 May 2013 14: 32
    I personally do not believe in direct treason ...
    "If you want to control the enemy - bring him closer ..." (c)
    And so it turns out that the roads are bad, and even fools overclock by weight ...
    And they, fools, let yourself ride on bad roads uncontrollably - tormenting already muddy water ...
    What's the catch?
    But fools are those who are actually better kept under control and better in the blinders before our eyes ...
  45. +1
    11 May 2013 14: 36
    Quote: a.hamster55
    Hello gentlemen pseudo-patriots -WORD CASES! And they themselves have the courage to sit on this electric
    presidential chair, etc. post? In each team there is such a critin-type of criticism of all. And when you offer him to take the place of the critic, he immediately says -I mean. And such clever people have no suggestions on how to fix the criticized situation.

    I agree to 100% ...
    However, if you go through social networks, then the pseudo-patriots here will seem to be the mouthpieces of pro-Putin politics ... This is happening there - a million moderators will not get together.
  46. +8
    11 May 2013 14: 36
    By what a person is judged - by his deeds. Our former leader, for his part, did everything to treat him like a royal jester who tries to copy his patron, but turns out badly. One episode was enough for Medvedev for people to aptly glue him the label "Aifonchik". And our people, sticking nicknames, make mistakes very rarely. Since the nickname reflects the very essence of a person, his actions, behavior in public. we all have friends, neighbors with nicknames. So that you will understand me.
    1. albolo
      +5
      11 May 2013 15: 05
      And remember how he was offended for calling him "DIMON". Well, if he is Dimon, what else to call him? He asked for his first name, patronymic (while forgetting that he is a pro-Western liberal, and there they address by name) You can then call Dimon Nanatolevich Skolkovsky
    2. -1
      11 May 2013 18: 18
      you still remember how many nicknames Putin has - they do not even hesitate to write on the posters at the rally - also "people"
  47. -1
    11 May 2013 14: 38
    And ask KVACHKOV if he wants? And if you don’t have a bite, then you will ask BUDANOV!
  48. +3
    11 May 2013 14: 58
    I won’t understand Rasey’s mind ................ but it’s a pity to Putin, you won’t tear yourself into 145 parts, solve the housing problem for one, restore the blood pension to the other ....... ..........
  49. +1
    11 May 2013 14: 58
    As many may think, I liked the article’s thoughts. How will the prime minister himself perceive it if he reads or reports to him? I’m also surprised why he does not cling to the opinion of the people, who, after all, are not blind. He believes that Olympus will no longer fly away ?
  50. albolo
    +7
    11 May 2013 14: 59
    In any normal country, neither the president nor the prime minister. no minister can be a person who has not worked as mayor, governor, who has not worked in production or in another REAL economy. Look at our bear rabble! This is a government of complete incompetence !!! Well. with the exception of. probably the Foreign Ministry of Lavrov and the current Ministry of Internal Affairs Kolokoltsev!
    The entire economy, agriculture and industry in the government are ruled by Deputy Prime Minister Arkasha Dvorkovich, who DID NOT WORK ANYWHERE! She didn’t even sell flowers in a stall. Similarly, the new head of the Central Bank. how can you put a girl on such a major post NOT A DAY working in the banking system ????????
    Yes, in the West there is another system where the minister is only a politician and also not a professional! But after all, the entire ministry is entirely professional and the composition of the ministry remains almost unchanged when the minister is changed (well, with very few exceptions). but we don’t have that either. Tax thief Smerdyukov came to the Moscow Region and replaced all military HIGHLY PREPARED officers and generals with completely ignorant thieving girls!
    1. +3
      11 May 2013 17: 07
      But they are completely lawyers. True, in the years of my youth, lawyers went to those who did not want to work, who did not have enough brains to go to college even for a builder or, the last thing, for an economist. It is clear what legal economists in the country are. And, of course, a significant leader must have a positive leadership experience, and necessarily low-level collectives (a team in the industry and agricultural sector, a platoon in the army).
  51. +1
    11 May 2013 15: 05
    Quote: antidot
    You do not forget that it was Putin who prevented the collapse of the State. And he could strengthen it. I think that if he hadn’t, then there would have been no Russian Federation by 2002. There would have been a commonwealth of independent Russian states (Far Eastern Republic, Ural Republic, Moscow State ), as well as a hostile environment in the form of the Kazan and Bashikir caliphates, the Dagestan and Chechen caliphates. as well as a protracted war between everyone. Our American friends already had plans and people

    Yeah, Tarabarov gave away part of the large Ussuri Island to China (or sold it to the locals), and now they are talking about a peace treaty with Japan - oh, my heart feels that part of the Kuril Islands will be given away (or sold). Isn’t this the collapse of Russia?
    Yes, for “Kursk” there are a lot of questions for Pu, after which he’ll throw a pitchfork am and to hell!!!
    1. 0
      11 May 2013 15: 43
      Quote: BIGLESHIY
      Yeah, Tarabarov gave away part of the large Ussuri Island to China (or sold it to the locals), and now they are talking about a peace treaty with Japan - oh, my heart feels that part of the Kuril Islands will be given away (or sold). Isn’t this the collapse of Russia?
      Yes, for “Kursk” there are a lot of questions for Pu, after which he will be thrown to hell!!!

      The collapse of Russia comes from the fact that the heart senses the sale of the Kuril Islands? Smiled...)))

      "Kursk" was meant to touch Putin by the balls... It is possible that they miraculously avoided a nuclear war... That would definitely be HELL!

      There's a song about Tarabarov!!!!!!!!!!
      A song that only a lazy hamster from Bolotnaya wouldn’t sing...

      Have you forgotten or don’t know about the part of the coastal zone shared with Norway... Why don’t you know?
      1. -3
        11 May 2013 17: 10
        A country falls apart when the government gives away its territory, and the sycophants praise the power that distributes these lands!!!
        "Kursk" was meant to touch Putin by the balls... It is possible that they miraculously avoided a nuclear war... That would definitely be HELL!

        Who wanted to touch him by the balls? Those guys in the Kursk whom no one was in a hurry to save? What kind of nuclear war are you talking about? Why did they hide the truth about the death of the Kursk? Write nonsense because it’s in your brain just one thought, how to lick Putin’s butt, and make it more delicious!!
        There's a song about Tarabarov!!!!!!!!!!
        A song that only a lazy hamster from Bolotnaya wouldn’t sing...

        And what did they sing about the Far Eastern Islands on Bolotnaya? Yes, you yourself are probably hearing about these islands for the first time and don’t know where to find them on the map!
        Have you forgotten or don’t know about the part of the coastal zone shared with Norway... Why don’t you know?

        I know and I haven’t forgotten! But you know and remain silent, covering up the authorities with silence!
        1. 0
          12 May 2013 16: 28
          Quote: BIGLESHIY
          Who wanted to touch him by the balls? Those guys in the Kursk whom no one was in a hurry to save? What kind of nuclear war are you talking about? Why did they hide the truth about the death of the Kursk? Write nonsense because it’s in your brain just one thought, how to lick Putin’s butt, and make it more delicious!!

          You better control your “Nonsense”, otherwise it will completely loose its belt and run naked through the entrances and streets... negative
          Don’t reveal your abilities in vain - keep who and how to lick to yourself...
          Quote: BIGLESHIY
          And what did they sing about the Far Eastern Islands on Bolotnaya? Yes, you yourself are probably hearing about these islands for the first time and don’t know where to find them on the map!

          Why do I need a map if I live 20 kilometers away... fool

          Quote: BIGLESHIY
          I know and I haven’t forgotten! But you know and remain silent, covering up the authorities with silence!

          No, I’m not covering it... It’s just that we’ve been here for a long time and these topics have also been around for a long time, but we also periodically discuss them here as a team...
  52. Alf
    +6
    11 May 2013 15: 20
    Quote: Stas
    Judge for yourself:
    1. renaming the police to the police,

    To this topic.
    The police were renamed the police. Now the doctors are worried...
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 16: 18
      Stopitsot....
      thought and thought... somehow...doctors.-.gays... doesn't sound right.
      THEN - I thought...
      Smiled ...
  53. 0
    11 May 2013 15: 27
    I completely agree with the author - Medvedev’s presidency is an unfortunate accident that should not be repeated in the interests of the people. This is akin to Gorbachev - his personal ambitions / “peacock narcissism” / are more important than the interests of the country and the nation.
  54. Rainman69
    +2
    11 May 2013 15: 28
    In general, the article is clearly adjusted to his own opinion; although Medvedev is a very incomprehensible figure, he said about the minister “that everyone doesn’t have to like it”; this referred specifically to the factions that began a protest against Livanov in the Duma, and not against some mythical ministers who do not fulfill Putin's instructions... The author seems to be hitting his ears, or he just dashed off his writings so that there were many advantages... My opinion is that Medvedev takes on the role of a protector and collector of negativity, who, compared to Putin, seems like such a scoundrel, and this is done intentionally. His role in history is to collect people’s negativity, including part of the people’s negativity from Putin, and then eventually leave his post miserably and go into business or teaching, maybe both ways...
    1. djon3volta
      -3
      11 May 2013 16: 05
      Quote: Rainman69
      Medvedev takes on the role of a protector and collector of negativity

      even if so, these are called political moves, and they are correct, because if it weren’t for Medvedev, all the negativity would fall on Putin personally (although on the Internet it’s Putin’s fault for everything... the cat abandoned the kittens, it’s Putin’s fault).
      but Medvedev also had positive aspects - dismissing Kudrin once, placing ESKANDERS on combat duty in Kaliningrad in response to the missile defense system in Poland two times, sharply raising the salaries of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Armed Forces three times. And the main thing is the truth, and these are positive aspects.
      and so naturally, if there is no fuse, then the device will burn out, as they say, and it will either have to be repaired or thrown away, and the device is not only the president, but also the leader of the country. There was news recently - the President of Moldova has a rating of only 0.6% in his country! !!How does he stay in power with such a rating? belay
  55. tixon444
    +5
    11 May 2013 15: 29
    Quote: Merchant
    If a worthy successor to the post of Prime Minister is found and prepared

    Don't make 3.14 laugh funny, she's funny enough.
  56. Rainman69
    +2
    11 May 2013 15: 47
    What did he say wrong? There is a trial, there is an investigation, if they prove that he is guilty, he will go to jail, if they don’t prove it, he will get off with a reprimand... What will happen if every “MASHA” passes a sentence, chaos, no????
    Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
    Quote: Atlon
    To spoil you personally, steal all your money, and drink the blood of your children (if any). And also, make you a slave, and sell your apartment to enemies! am
    Didn’t you know? belay


    How tired you are, defenders of this corrupt, corrupt government!
    Well, I’m not sorry, once again admire your pet, maybe you are here for the slate? From our favorite party of crooks and thieves?

    1. djon3volta
      -2
      11 May 2013 19: 44
      this is all bullshit, in smari laughing

  57. tixon444
    0
    11 May 2013 15: 48
    Quote: Zubr
    I think it will survive until the new year, I wonder who has any forecasts? Share it!

    Maximum until July. LADY will report on non-compliance with the May decrees and will be removed in connection with the transfer to another job. Kudrin will direct. Don't go to a fortune teller. It was not for nothing that he sat next to him when VVP communicated with the people. It remains to be seen who will be better.
    1. 0
      11 May 2013 18: 23
      No predictions....
      It couldn't be better, because our system...
      like the entire Western world, now...
      tailored for PROCESS,
      and not under the RESULT..
      ..
      They are there, over the hill...they got themselves bonuses...all the results are theirs. They will live. Quietly, slowly... the results will come.
      And for us...poor and robbed... rush up - do not give.
      ...
      No matter who comes, I don’t expect a breakthrough.
      It's a shame ..
      for the Power.
  58. drei612
    +1
    11 May 2013 16: 09
    DIMA IS GENERALLY STRANGE, AND HE HAD NO GOALS AND HAS NO GOALS, JUST A STUDENT COLLECTING MATERIAL FOR AN ABSTRACT AND THE STUDENT IS VERY Narrow-minded.
  59. Tambov we ...
    +2
    11 May 2013 16: 10
    Another Western tripper on our country, well, according to Gorby’s RECIPE.
  60. tixon444
    +6
    11 May 2013 16: 12
    Quote: Gleb
    D. Medvedev: A day later. I have already given all orders. Everything was already blazing there. Vladimir Vladimirovich simply made a statement that we categorically do not accept this, of course, he did the right thing.

    What a cool boy! JanklodvanDAM! My nephew Seryoga is lying under Georgian fire and thinking: “Your division, Japanese mother, when will our popularly elected president finally give all the orders? After all, the day has already passed. Aaaaand, Putin is in China? And the president is not Putin? Medvedev "No shit!"
  61. +4
    11 May 2013 16: 16
    The fact that Medvedev is a political corpse has long been known to everyone. I think that Medvedev will now, on Putin’s orders, carry out unpopular reforms, gather the wrath of the people and quietly leave at the request of the masses. The job will be done, the king in white, everyone is happy. You should never forget that VVP is a state security officer, a counterintelligence officer, even the simplest operations are multifaceted.
  62. pahom54
    0
    11 May 2013 16: 20
    The conversation started about Medvedev, but it still turns to Putin, how bad he is... Guys, remember when we had (before him) an efficient and energetic president or prime minister???
    But there is a replacement for Medvedev - Sergei Shoigu, who is as hardworking and energetic as Putin, and this is where a real tandem can work out for the benefit of the country.
    And to those who shout: “Thief!” “Bad” - I’ll answer this way: name the person who, in your personal opinion, can make Russia rich, independent, etc....
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 16: 26
      The main thing is that our beloved Feisty does not fall ill ahead of time. The GDP has been failing for some reason lately.
  63. +2
    11 May 2013 16: 24
    Dear IGARR! Thank you for the offer to become president! But alas, my level is battalion. And Mr. S. Chernyakhovsky will write about me in a week, especially if I fulfill the goals you set.
  64. RSNV.
    +1
    11 May 2013 16: 25
    Quote: Merchant
    Listen to R_U_S_S_K_I_Y change the username and flag for the avatar, because you drive nonsense !!!
    If a worthy receiver for the post of prime minister is found and prepared, then GDP will definitely replace DAM !!!

    Therefore, DAM is the most worthy and prepared chairman of the government at the moment. You're on to something, Merchant.
  65. RSNV.
    +2
    11 May 2013 16: 33
    Quote: shinobi
    The main thing is that our beloved Feisty does not fall ill ahead of time. The GDP has been failing for some reason lately.

    And so that oil costs more than $100 per barrel, or better yet, all 200
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 17: 26
      Quote: rsnv
      And so that oil costs more than $100 per barrel, or better yet, all 200

      And what? The people will not live better, but they will simply steal more...
      1. RSNV.
        -1
        11 May 2013 19: 11
        You did not understand me. I worry about the energy superpower
  66. +3
    11 May 2013 16: 39
    The fact that Dima has problems with his head has been known for a long time, but why is he still in power and not in a pre-trial detention center, that’s the question??????
    1. 0
      11 May 2013 19: 44
      Medvedev just has a problem! He doesn't live with us. He lives either in an imaginary world or in a generally different one, parallel to our reality.
  67. zav
    +1
    11 May 2013 16: 43
    I question the author’s assertion that a Russian minister must be liked by society. I'm sure I shouldn't, at least not at this stage. I am not alone, since the author himself, at the end of the article, rather vaguely began to argue with himself “about the relationship between price and result.” Now the head of the government is not Medvedev, but Development Minister Belousov. It was on his shoulders that Putin placed the task of economic growth - read: increasing the export of mineral raw materials - so as not to be left with an empty treasury.
    I think that neither Medvedev nor Putin are able to prevent the impending crisis - they have taken on too many obligations, including those that society does not know about, but guesses. We need a new person. If anyone is interested, read: proza.ru/2011/09/11812
  68. Rainman69
    -3
    11 May 2013 16: 45
    You'll hear it now. Putin appoints certain individuals for the purpose of checking for lice, and most likely even to dump them in the end, that is, he specifically gives his enemies an unbearable burden, knowing in advance that they will not cope... and he has no other option. Putin is a man of principle, he loves when everything is according to the law, he even took Yukos away from Khodor for a reason, namely through the law, and that’s right! Chubais sits in Rusnano, he didn’t do anything illegal and Putin talked about it, there was a time when everyone would privatize Chubais would be among these privatizers, but he is far from alone, for example Prokhorov was there, why don’t you ask where Prokhorov is? Kvachkov was gathering a conspiracy in the ranks of former military men, he wanted to carry out a coup d'etat, this fact has been proven by the investigative authorities, and Kvachkov is now serving time, that’s where he belongs!
    Quote: Netto
    But until I hear a really sensible version that how it turns out that Putin is great, but his DIRECT subordinates are doing the devil knows what, having been appointed by him, having been brought into power by him, I will assume that everything is not so simple with Putin. Where is Chubais and where is Kvachkov?
  69. RSNV.
    +3
    11 May 2013 16: 48
    Quote: horoh
    The fact that Dima has problems with his head has been known for a long time, but why is he still in power and not in a pre-trial detention center, that’s the question??????

    And Serdyukov and his company are not in a pre-trial detention center, that’s also a question...
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    1. RSNV.
      0
      11 May 2013 16: 57
      How impolite you are, a great expert in the topic of cocks
  71. +1
    11 May 2013 17: 03
    It seems to me that Shoigu may be the next president. Perhaps.
    1. Tambov we ...
      -1
      11 May 2013 18: 41
      It is in no way possible to glorify the servants of the “recent (soon) former”.
    2. vitold777
      -2
      12 May 2013 16: 29
      If Shoigu is president, then the tandem will be Ilyumzhinov, and the capital will be Kyzyl.
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  73. +2
    11 May 2013 17: 24
    Doesn’t it seem, VVP, that the people have been waiting for one thing from you for a long time - to remove Medvedev. What the hell are the political pitfalls and currents? No matter what Putin does to the bear, the people will understand, we need a referendum - come on! Stop looking at the West and being blindsided. With such support from the people, Medvedev must score points, and point them out seriously, because if anything happens, the Chubais-Serdyukovs will find their monastery. The Surkovs should understand this too. Maybe it's time to understand democracy in a Western way?
  74. -1
    11 May 2013 17: 25
    MEDVEDEV.....and what a good surname - so Russian! what
    1. Tambov we ...
      +1
      11 May 2013 18: 42
      Last name, it's just for paper...
  75. zol1
    +1
    11 May 2013 17: 26
    Who would doubt the direction of this “manager”’s activities!
  76. +1
    11 May 2013 17: 45
    >>
    It is more than strange to hear from a lawyer by training, in response to a logical question, an answer with such concepts as like and dislike. We are not talking about show business or a beauty contest, where such concepts are appropriate. We are talking about assessing the work of ministers, and in accordance with the administrative code and other codes, only concepts can be used in the assessment - whether it corresponds to the position or does not correspond to the requirements. From Medvedev's answer it follows that the criticized ministers correspond to the requirements of their positions. Then the question arises - does this mean Medvedev is satisfied with how ministers do not carry out the instructions of the President, for which they are subject to justified criticism? Or maybe he is satisfied that the ministers are successfully implementing some other program known only to Medvedev? Then the next question arises - WHO needs ministers led by the Prime Minister who supports them, who, calling a spade a spade, sabotage the implementation of the program declared by the President or carry out some other program unknown to society, for example, the “Gaidar with us” program, or “hello from the State Department"! It is clear that this confusion and vacillation MUST END! The President needs a team of LIKE-THINDED people in his government, not PLAYRALISTS!
  77. +1
    11 May 2013 17: 46
    This guy in short pants should have been kicked out from the top of power long ago! You can see from his face that he’s warming his hands like their protege Serdyukov!!!
  78. RSNV.
    0
    11 May 2013 17: 55
    Well, why did you all attack Dima so much, maybe it’s not about him, he’s so small, it’s not good to offend little ones.
  79. 0
    11 May 2013 18: 01
    Has it really come to interim Putin’s turn? And did she even get there, if she still can’t get to Serdyukov? And who's next? Announce the whole list please
  80. +1
    11 May 2013 18: 14
    And than. This is already a tradition. First, lift it to the skies with shouts of “hurray” and long live, and then throw it into the mud and trample underfoot. It’s even better to wait until it falls down. It’s good if it only falls into the mud, otherwise there was a tradition of putting it against the wall, like the same Pavlov, Beria and other "leaders" and "Red commanders". And then it is fruitless to argue for decades about who were those who stood at the wall. Our own people or the Cossacks sent in?
  81. vlrosch
    -1
    11 May 2013 18: 15
    At KVN 1962 the question was asked: “What could be worse than a Fool?” - the answer: “with initiative”
  82. +1
    11 May 2013 18: 29
    Quote: avensis
    And as you are already tired - the crying wretched forever, In whom Putin ate everything, drank water in a tap and dug up all the potatoes in the garden. Everything prevents you from living, and the main Putin. But there will be no Putin - Ivanov, Sidorov, Uncle Vasya, Aunt Motya, etc. will interfere with you. .Always there is a man who is to blame for the fact that you do not have money, boots, toilet paper. Because you are so good, smart, hardworking - but the bloodsuckers do not allow you to live as you deserve!
    Hear yourself

    Yes, we’re still living without any trouble, thanks to the prayers of the opposition!
    and Putin is also to blame for the fact that the cat abandoned the kittens
  83. +1
    11 May 2013 18: 34
    The labyrinths of power, they are so stinking, and filled with such creatures........
    The iPhone is no better and no worse than other invertebrate temporary workers.
  84. +2
    11 May 2013 18: 37
    And it seems to me that Medvedev is being smoothly, in the spirit of Putin, dumped into a landfill, which is called silent glanders. Medvedev is going against the people, which of you and I would go against the people??? There are two options here, either a sent Cossack, or a complete one and his team and he is smoothly dumped. Through the media, through rumors, through analysis of his actions, and that’s where he goes... Like Taburetkina... I think it will be so, then they will say he was an effective manager, I really want to hope)))
    1. RSNV.
      0
      11 May 2013 18: 43
      "Nourishing the hopes of young men"
  85. +4
    11 May 2013 19: 13
    Quote: JIaIIoTb
    Quote from astra
    The salaries of the police and the army have not increased in vain, they will stand up for power.

    He served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for 23 calendar years, in the most difficult times, when there wasn’t even money to eat, they cooked boiled millet on water (they delayed the pay for 4-6 months and it was hard to name what was paid), but even then we thought not about power but about the country we are protecting.
    You, dear, do not compare us with yourself; the vast majority of officers have Honor. Our business is to take care of the good of the country, not to count money.

    And I remember I served for 6300 rubles and didn’t whine yet, they regularly sent me on business trips to Chechnya. While someone was having fun, someone was doing their job. And the fact that our salary was raised is quite fair, my family sees me no more than 4-5 months a year. There are a lot of vacant positions, but no one wants to serve; the demand is great and has become difficult. soldier
  86. avensis
    +1
    11 May 2013 19: 25
    Quote from astra
    The organization of political parties, as you say, will not help much, since for example, in the elections I voted for “a fair Russia” for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and what happened? - anyway, the United Russia party retained the majority of votes

    Since when does one of your votes equal 67% of the votes of other citizens? Is your god mode turned off?
  87. tomich
    +1
    11 May 2013 19: 30
    It seems that people praising Putin are not entirely adequate. you look around, how you live and in what conditions. Entire cities are freezing, you stand in line for kindergarten, you pay an insane mortgage for cheap apartments, terrorists, whose destruction the authorities so cheerfully report, regularly carry out terrorist attacks. Military personnel still cannot be provided with housing, and all this despite super-income from oil sales. And then look at the expensive cars and country mansions of officials. This is true?
    1. RSNV.
      +2
      11 May 2013 19: 45
      I agree with you, there are problems with the adequacy of the perception of reality. And what will happen when the infrastructure built during the Soviet era finally falls apart and the last personnel trained in the USSR, on whom at least something else now rests, retire. And if oil prices drop or run out altogether, what will happen then...
      1. djon3volta
        +1
        11 May 2013 21: 14
        Quote: rsnv
        what will happen then...

        that's what will happen)))
  88. Rainman69
    +2
    11 May 2013 19: 59
    You are not worthy of Putin.....Putin is a gift from heaven to the Russian people, who have become obsolete, become drunkards and have degraded...
    Quote: Clear Pin
    I agree with you, we are worthy of the ruler whom we are worthy, we should not rely on someone else, I read how it all happened, how we surrendered the USSR, we all crap, we did not put Yeltsin in his place according to the constitution of the USSR, we did not put him in jail, we all crap, army, structures, there was an attempt to plant him, it did not work because everyone crap ... With the help of the State Department, the whole world later said that there were elections, such as fair, one Japan and several other states were not informed how to speak correctly, in their newspapers it was written "CAPTURE OF POWER, REVOLUTION" ((((((
    1. RSNV.
      0
      11 May 2013 20: 09
      I'm happy for you, Rain Man 69, you deserve GDP, unless everything you wrote here is subtle humor
  89. +2
    11 May 2013 20: 00
    That's what you mean! When they wrote about this just a month ago, you downvoted, now everyone has pluses... Like weathervanes, by God. It’s somehow disgusting here, the only trolls are minors.
  90. +1
    11 May 2013 20: 07
    Domestic policy is a bluff, Medvedev is a joker. The only good thing is that the people still have trump cards in their hands. I have the impression that someone is waiting, moreover, forcing me to play trump cards, but I don’t want to play dark, we’ve already been through this.
  91. Aboriginal53
    +3
    11 May 2013 20: 16
    Compared to Medvedev and Putin, he looks good. This is why he was appointed prime minister. Anti-people, anti-Russian government!
  92. Kowalsky
    +1
    11 May 2013 20: 41
    Now Bear is bad for everyone. How did he become president? Who voted for him not so long ago??? Don’t think that I’m defending Aifonich (God forbid), I’m just wondering where all his supporters are who cast their votes in the elections.
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 21: 01
      Quote: Kowalsky
      How did he become president? Who voted for him not so long ago??? Don’t think that I’m defending Aifonich (God forbid), I’m just wondering where all his supporters are who cast their votes in the elections.


      1. He became president thanks to V.V. Putin and his authority.
      2. They voted for him as for V.V. Putin, but he never had any supporters, as you call them, and I don’t think there will be any.
  93. +2
    11 May 2013 20: 49
    Quote: tomich
    It seems that people praising Putin are not entirely adequate. you look around, how you live and in what conditions. Entire cities are freezing, you stand in line for kindergarten, you pay an insane mortgage for cheap apartments, terrorists, whose destruction the authorities so cheerfully report, regularly carry out terrorist attacks. Military personnel still cannot be provided with housing, and all this despite super-income from oil sales. And then look at the expensive cars and country mansions of officials. This is true?


    and YOU yourself are adequate? Well, look how miserable we live, look out the window - what do you see there? I’ll give you a hint - a bunch of cars, and obviously more than half are foreign cars, many of them more or less new

    Do entire cities freeze? If you are talking about accidents - they have always happened, I don’t know of a single city that would freeze everyone on purpose - you’re lying, my friend

    terrorists? they are in your USA and were in the USSR

    queues for kindergarten? they have always been there, but you forget to say that kindergartens were destroyed by a bald man and a drunk, and Putin has to raise them

    windfall profits from oil sales? look at the globe and look at the size of the country

    roads? officials? - Do you think it’s easy for one person to keep track of everyone?

    Who should we praise? Well, suggest better candidate, otherwise many people can scream fire, but when they put it out, the screamers immediately disappear somewhere.

    ===========
    Gentlemen, admins, I have already written more than once or twice - there are too many paid people appearing on the site who are increasing their reputation (no matter what, they have advantages everywhere), and are clearly leading an anti-Russian line. Soon they will simply gain a turnip, and will begin to demote rather “positive” materials and posts into minuses. It's so elementary
    1. RSNV.
      +4
      11 May 2013 21: 05
      Facts, please, about terrorists in the USSR. How many metro stations and planes were blown up, how many "Nord-Ostov" and schools with children were captured, houses with residents were blown up???
      At the same time, can you tell us about the state of housing and communal services in the Russian Federation and the USSR, only to be more specific, the figures are on the Internet, the official ones will do.
      And also about kindergartens, schools, hospitals... how many were built in the USSR and now in the Russian Federation?
      1. hot
        hot
        -1
        11 May 2013 21: 39
        It is not correct to compare the USSR and the Russian Federation. Political situations are different.
  94. Rainman69
    -1
    11 May 2013 20: 56
    get away from here...
    Quote: Shawnee
    The little problem is that the country headed by Putin now is very different from the country he headed in 1999. The balance of the Pension Fund with the existing retirement age does not converge; the budget will cease to converge when oil prices are below $ 120 per barrel. The rich are being squeezed out in offices; the poor are crushed by Mercedes right in the streets. All government projects - from Skolkovo to Sochi - are exclusively cut grandmas.
    1. RSNV.
      +1
      11 May 2013 20: 58
      Why so rude? You can say something essentially, without emotion...
  95. -1
    11 May 2013 21: 16
    Quote: rsnv
    Facts, please, about terrorists in the USSR. How many metro stations and planes were blown up, how many "Nord-Ostov" and schools with children were captured, houses with residents were blown up???


    Do you think you know how to distort facts? ;) Is it not that it is not the GDP’s fault that it inherited the unstable Caucasus? Let us note that it became more stable with him, although at great cost.
    Were there no terrorists in the USSR? Planes were hijacked by the way

    Quote: rsnv
    At the same time, can you tell us about the state of housing and communal services in the Russian Federation and the USSR, only to be more specific, the figures are on the Internet, the official ones will do.

    Go to the Rosstat website and see for yourself. You are distorting again, you compare what country the GDP was given and what country he turned it into, otherwise out of some fright you compare the times of the USSR and 2013, forgetting that before it the country was plundered to zero
    Quote: rsnv
    And also about kindergartens, schools, hospitals... how many were built in the USSR and now in the Russian Federation?

    answers above
    1. RSNV.
      +2
      11 May 2013 21: 46
      1. I didn’t get on the same page with you, so there’s no need to poke me.
      2. GDP has been in power for almost 13 years. What has been done in the economy, in the real sector of production, in science, you can only say without pseudo-patriotic demagoguery. We do not take factories for screwdriver assembly of third-rate cars into account.
      3. What did the GDP inherit in 2000 and what did the USSR inherit after the Great Patriotic War? 1945 + 14 = 1959 what was done during this time (there is no need to refer to the free labor of Gulag prisoners; now there are no less prisoners)? Oil was not driven over the hill back then. Compare achievements.
      4. Over the past 10 years, the average price of a barrel of oil was approximately $100 (a record for the entire period of observation), how many new schools and kindergartens were built during this time, I generally keep quiet about factories. About four or five BMD-4M, etc. no need to talk either
      5. You can learn more about the country into which its GDP was turned
      1. djon3volta
        -2
        11 May 2013 22: 11
        Quote: rsnv
        What did the GDP inherit in 2000 and what did the USSR inherit after the Great Patriotic War?

        about this, there is super mega article!!! published December 17, 2012 on this site. good please take a look.
        http://topwar.ru/22156-putin-i-stalin-sravnitelnyy-analiz.html

        Inheritance he got much more severe than Stalin. If the disruption in the national economy after the civil war and Yeltsin's reforms was about the same in scale, then Joseph Vissarionovich received a peaceful country that had already begun to revive after a riot of defeatists. President No. 2 was in the very center of the collapse organized by the defeatists. A crisis of defaults raged across the country; rolling blackouts of electricity and heat were the norm; in some regions, arrears of pensions and wages reached 2 years, and delays in the army in a period of many months. In addition, there was a real regional war in the Caucasus, at the end of which the majority of the population had strong doubts. Russia was forbidden to win the first war, and people were confident that they would not be allowed to win again - and the defeatists shouted about such a future openly and enthusiastically.

        However, the GDP said: “to water” - and this was done. During the Second Chechen war, the military did not have a noose around their neck, with the help of which they were forced to invade the last time. I have not yet forgotten - vindictive after all - as M. Leontyev from the television screen begged that the troops would reach Terek at least and protect the native Russian lands. Nobody even believed that! From all sides they actively demanded that Russia not cross the borders of Chechnya, that it should not cross the Terek, that it should not climb into the mountains - that at least it should enter into negotiations !!! I don’t know what it took to sustain GDP — but it allowed the military to go to the end.
  96. 0
    11 May 2013 21: 18
    Our match passed yesterday, the house manager rules
  97. Rainman69
    0
    11 May 2013 21: 20
    What country are you writing from?? your IP is not Russian
    Quote: rsnv
    I'm happy for you, Rain Man 69, you deserve GDP, unless everything you wrote here is subtle humor
    1. RSNV.
      0
      11 May 2013 22: 07
      You seem to be well versed in IP addressing. If it’s not difficult, tell us how you determine nationality by IP address. Thank you in advance.
  98. -1
    11 May 2013 21: 25
    Sorry guys, Mendel is a Jew, Putin who?
  99. minimum
    +2
    11 May 2013 21: 28
    Good king - bad boyars again? It seems like we laughed at this principle once, but now we repeat it?
    It seems like we have a presidential republic, the prime minister is appointed by the president and is actually controlled by him, not the parliament. If the author believes that Medvedev is a pest, then maybe he should continue the logic further? Medvedev was the successor and prime minister, as if this hints that the Kremlin is completely satisfied with his activities. Isn’t it?) When we see not window dressing, but resignations, then we can talk about something, but otherwise it’s all water)
  100. -1
    11 May 2013 21: 39
    For giraffes - Putin once set Medvedev for two purposes:

    - to maintain your influence
    - and so that the citizens of the country understand, what is it like to live under a democrat who is loved beyond the hills? - we received a change in time zones, and 0 ppm, etc.

    Now he will simply gradually remove this rabble and put in its place his own people, who have gained strength and can already be pushed into power, or at least those who can be controlled.

    You can’t just go and disband everyone to hell, the country is too big, there are many chains of officials, etc. Here we need to work surgically, because it is better to have a minister who is not particularly popular than to roughly destroy the chain of command, thereby resulting in even greater destruction and chaos.

    When the opposition shouts, whether in the Duma or in the Bolotnaya Duma, They never offer specific solutions or leaders, they are nonsense and nothing more. Right now, Prokhorov and his group 500 are working seriously on their proposals - but he’s not really getting involved in politics yet, he’s waiting for the opposition to completely degrade.
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      11 May 2013 21: 59
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      Now he will simply gradually remove this rabble

      Did Putin tell you this in a private conversation?
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      and put your people in his place

      Whose people were they, I wonder, all these 12 years?
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      You can’t just go and disband everyone to hell.

      But it is possible to imprison a couple or two with complete confiscation of property. And for others - science. But for some reason this is not being done...
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      Here we need to work surgically

      Is he a lawyer by training? So don't get your hopes up. For another three years he will legally justify the need to use a scalpel.

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