Hello from Putin: slightly and Sevastopol - as part of the Russian Federation

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The transfer to the Black Sea fleet of new ships, announced by the leadership of the Russian Federation, is aimed at strengthening the military presence in the Crimea with the subsequent inclusion of Sevastopol into Russia, following the example of Kaliningrad. This forecast was announced to me by naval officers based in Odessa:

“These plans cannot but concern us, because, unlike the political leadership, we, as the military, are well aware of the consequences of such plans. We took the oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine, and we will fulfill it with honor in case of any threat to the sovereignty of the country. ”



The former commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Igor Tenyuk, commented to the Day’s publication this statement by the leadership of the Russian Federation:

“As is known, Shoigu also announced that Russia wants to update the Black Sea Fleet in the number of 16 surface ships and six submarines. But, according to the agreements existing between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, the latter does not have the right to upgrade weapons, increase the number of equipment that is located on the territory of Ukraine, that is, in the Crimea. What the current Ukrainian leadership will do is hard for me to say. But I think they have enough sense not to allow it. Russia will try to do this because it needs to increase its presence in Sevastopol with the subsequent strategic idea - to make it like Kaliningrad, which is no longer a secret. How can this be achieved? Through the buildup of military force until a certain period, and later - raising the issue to the diplomatic level. But Ukraine has no right to allow this to happen! ”Said Tenyuk.

Earlier, while still prime minister, Vladimir Putin zealously advocated “deepening humanitarian relations” with Ukraine, since, in his opinion, this is more important than economic ties. And the Minister of Education Tabachnik, and the Russian “fifth column” in the Ukrainian parliament, headed by V. Kolesnichenko, helped him with this effort. By the way, elected to the BP from Sevastopol. Hence the “roots” and authorship of the new Law of Ukraine “On the basis of the state language policy”.

All the years of independence, in relations between Russia and Ukraine, the Crimea and Sevastopol were no less stumbling blocks than gas. Today they added the vehicle. There is still no clarity in the negotiations on these issues, and this cannot but enrage Russia, wishing to “crush” Ukraine by any means and methods, under its sole influence, essentially turning it into a satellite of the Russian Federation.

“Kharkiv agreements”, on which “regionals” pinned their hopes, and “benefits” from which they so ardently defended in parliament and society, despite their ambiguous assessment in Ukrainian society, Russia did not fulfill, and Ukraine promised not received. But even they could be a “prelude” to the now announced plans of the Russian Federation for the annexation of Sevastopol, as they say, “at gunpoint”.

After the last visit of V. Yanukovych “on a visit” to V. Putin, and then the signing of a course on the EU by Yanukovych, from the mouths of the first persons of the Russian Federation, a lot of harsh and offensive statements and comments were made to him and to Ukraine. Among them was announced the so-called. “Renewal” of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation in Sevastopol, and in fact, the strengthening of Russia's military presence in the Crimea.

So, the quiet expansion of Russia in Ukraine from the humanitarian and economic planes also quietly develops into the military sphere.

The violation of agreements between Ukraine and Russia on the base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol has been repeatedly violated earlier. And Russia can go and not yet for one violation - if it got away with it earlier, it will come down now. The reaction of the country's leadership in all these cases of violations was a sluggish, unconstructive situation and reducing everything “on the brakes”. And the appeals of various Russian politicians for the annexation of Sevastopol to the Russian Federation have also been repeatedly heard. They caused a heated discussion in the society and the political beau monde of Ukraine and were evaluated only as provocations of these individuals. But no one rated them as “artillery preparation” for the subsequent plans of the Russian Federation to increase their military presence in Sevastopol. And such plans are a direct threat to the national security and sovereignty of Ukraine.

The “chess game” between Russia and Ukraine continues. Putin made his next move. How will Yanukovych answer? Will play "defense Karakan" or "Sicilian defense"?

The question is, of course, interesting ...

And we all remain “hostages” of the result of this “chess game” - citizens of Ukraine.
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  1. Alew
    +2
    27 March 2013 01: 24
    The article, let’s be honest, is a provocation. And why do many of you say that in Ukraine, in Russian, the correct word is - in Ukraine!
    1. +2
      27 March 2013 09: 57
      Which is correct?..Gogol wrote: in Ukraine, Yusch taught: in Ukraine...But at the moment Ukraine is located both in ..... and in ..... So I’m having a hard time deciding...
  2. +6
    27 March 2013 01: 44
    Ukraine is a sore subject for Russian people.
    Considering that the Russians themselves have never denied Ukrainians either equality (the majority of Russians do not share the same thing as Great Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians), nor self-identity.
    Ukrainian songs, the cult of Taras Bulba, pride in the Zaporozhye Cossacks is almost the same as in the Don Cossacks... Even the confusion in the actions of the Donetsk and Cossacks...

    I have never heard of a specific Ukrainian being oppressed in Russia on a national basis (I’m not talking about specific fools, thieves and goons - this also happens among Ukrainians).

    It’s a shame that nationalists have appeared in Ukraine who see evil not in the Poles and Turks - the historical enemies of the Ukrainians, but in those who tried with all their might to kick these same Turks and Poles out of Ukraine.

    As a matter of education, I would send these Russophobes on an excursion to Turkey and Poland. Let them try to talk about great Ukraine.

    As for the coming changes, the time is not far off when Great Russia will again become an attractive center of culture, science, power and wealth.
  3. evil
    0
    27 March 2013 01: 52
    “We took an oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine, and we will fulfill it with honor in the event of any threat to the country’s sovereignty.”
    At first, these gays swore an oath to the USSR, and did not fulfill it, an officer must take the oath once,
    1. +4
      28 March 2013 22: 33
      Quote: angry
      At first, these gays swore an oath to the USSR, and did not fulfill it, an officer must take the oath once,

      What gays are you talking about, dear?
      I am a reserve officer, I took the oath once - to the USSR. I did not swear allegiance to the separate government of Ukraine, a state formed on part of the territory of the Union by the American State Department. And I won’t swear!
      And those who swore allegiance to Ukraine most likely no longer took the oath to the Soviet people. Don't forget - another generation has grown up since then. All this nonsense has been going on for too long...

      So choose your expressions, please!
      1. 0
        30 March 2013 19: 43
        Quote: Skating rink
        I am a reserve officer, I took the oath once - to the USSR. I did not swear allegiance to the separate government of Ukraine, a state formed on part of the territory of the Union by the American State Department. And I won’t swear!

        That's it... My brother-in-law is an air defense specialist, he mastered the Shilka down to the screw...
        So he even refused to “Batka” in those days, although he himself was Belarusian...
        And an acquaintance, also an air defense specialist, but already commanded a KUB or BUK division, or Osa - I don’t remember exactly... So he also went to Russia from Ukraine in troubled times and did not fall for various promises of promotion and even after the threat, to ban the export of homemade scrub ...
        Both settled in the Far East...
        Yes, there are a lot of such principled officers...
        But others sat at the control panel of the USSR air defense systems on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX and nothing... - They don’t fear God...
    2. 0
      30 March 2013 19: 36
      Quote: angry
      At first, these gays swore an oath to the USSR, and did not fulfill it, an officer must take the oath once,

      It seems that they will be able to change their minds again and remember who owes what...
  4. +4
    27 March 2013 01: 54
    My relatives live in Ukraine in the Odessa region, and I myself sometimes visit them. If there was an opportunity, then ordinary Ukrainians, that is, the same Russians, would have long ago moved to Russia themselves, all this demagoguery about Ukrainian statehood is aimed at making the local political riffraff feel like major players on the political chessboard, but the people want stability . My aunt, having worked in the Far East all her life, receives a pension of 810 hryvnia, the pension is enough for the bare minimum, she still wears Soviet clothes, she eats from her garden, but she cannot afford any expensive purchases. Cries when remembering the past time. It seems to me that if we now hold a referendum on the entry of the south and east of Ukraine into Russia, people will say YES!
  5. +4
    27 March 2013 01: 58
    It’s crazy for me to read posts that not only directly, but even indirectly suggest a military confrontation between Ukraine and Russia. I am absolutely sure that the problems of relations between Ukrainians and Russians should begin to be solved with the ignoramuses who, with complete ignorance of the history of their state, are trying to oppose the two peoples. For me, this is the image of stupid banderlogs with a hamburger in their cheek and a bottle of cola by their keyboard. Provocative articles by people who are already mature and bought by the State Department are designed precisely for such young primates.
    I am Russian and live in Russia, but God forbid if someone were to attack Ukraine, without a shadow of a doubt, at the first call (summons, etc.) I went to help the brotherly people.
    I believe that, by and large, there are no particular disagreements between Russians and Ukrainians. There are disagreements between Western and Eastern Ukrainians, into which they are trying to drag Russia. We must not forget that the confrontation is more religious (Uniates versus Orthodox) than national.
    1. 0
      30 March 2013 19: 57
      Quote: Old Warrant Officer
      It seems to me that if we now hold a referendum on the entry of the south and east of Ukraine into Russia, people will say YES!

      I think that Russian citizens, even if there was a referendum in Russia, would also vote FOR the overwhelming majority...
      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      I am Russian and live in Russia, but God forbid, if someone were to attack Ukraine, without a shadow of a doubt, at the first call (summons, etc.) I went to help the fraternal people.


      That's what we're talking about, that stand and stand, ordinary people are already tired of disunity, and would go to fight on the territory of Ukraine, only in order to drive away the vulture politicians from the wounded body and soul of the Russian, and even the Ukrainian (if anyone people like it so much...
      Such an “occupation,” properly organized, would bring liberation and lift the suffocating stone from the chest of a people divided by politicians... IMHO
      Although, of course, this option is fraught with disaster in the event of errors that will occur in all sorts of different ways, and then misunderstandings are not far away...

      Here you need to measure a hundred times, try it on 100500 times and only then... maybe... The unification will be bloodless...

      I hope that VVP and Co. have firm plans to restore a fair unification of the Slavic territories on the western borders of the USSR for the people of the two fraternal countries, for example through the Thermal Power Plant and the EurAsEC...
      God bless us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  6. chex2418
    +1
    27 March 2013 02: 09
    [quote=morpex][quote=Egor]Police 380 thousand. and the army is 92 thousand. and they want to reduce it further[/quote]
    So they have already "docked with the land" to the point that their own people are more terrible for them than an external enemy ... Cop's budget this year exceeded spending on the army !!! Stsuki white - "BLUE"!
    That’s right!!!....only the whole point is that out of the 380 thousand “accredited” budget, not all of it goes to its intended purpose....How and where budget money is spent is up to the imagination of the ordinary taxpayer will not be enough...
  7. sashka
    0
    27 March 2013 05: 04
    A little bit... Doesn't count... Or=Or. Well, a little “pregnant”...
  8. +7
    27 March 2013 06: 22
    Ukraine and Russia need a common Fleet + Belarusian military developments and together they can defend their interests in the Black Sea, and in case of aggression they can kick it in the teeth... But this is so, thinking out loud soldier
  9. 0
    27 March 2013 07: 01
    If my memory serves me correctly, Crimea gave Ukraine Khrush when it came to power, and Sevastopol too
    1. +5
      27 March 2013 08: 43
      Quote: deman73
      Crimea gave Ukraine Khrush when he came to power, and Sevastopol too

      But here is a mistake! I have already written and I will repeat it again. Khrushchev donated the Crimean region, but Sevastopol was NEVER included in it! It was a city of all-Union significance! And there are no documents that Sevastopol became part of the Crimean region (autonomous republic)! It was only later, when EBN and Kravchuk’s eyes filled with water, EBN gave up on Sevastopol, and Kravchuk pocketed it. Throughout the history of “independent” Ukraine, it has always been led by THIEVES!
      1. +2
        27 March 2013 18: 45
        Quote: Egoza
        Throughout the history of “independent” Ukraine, it has always been led by THIEVES!
        If only there...
        There is more of this goodness everywhere than is needed
      2. 0
        27 March 2013 21: 29
        Quote: Egoza
        Khrushchev donated the Crimean region, but Sevastopol was NEVER included in it!

        Mmm . Sorry, but what could HNS give as just the Secretary General? It’s not for nothing that BLI is on subscription I traveled to events with the Chairman of the Council of Ministers. His signature was decisive, and the signature of the Secretary General is so ornament , decoration.
        So, in fact, he actually gave up Crimea and the hero cities to EBN!
      3. 0
        28 March 2013 22: 40
        Quote: Egoza
        Khrushchev donated the Crimean region, but Sevastopol was NEVER included in it!

        Absolutely right!
        President of the Russian Federation B.N. Yeltsin
        To the President of Ukraine L.D. Kuchma
        To the Chairman of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation V.F. Shumeiko
        To the Chairman of the State Duma of the Russian Federation I.P. Rybkin
        To the Chairman of the Supreme Council of Ukraine Moroz A.A.

        APPEAL
        Sevastopol City Council of People's Deputies

        The Sevastopol City Council of People's Deputies appeals to you with a proposal to make a state-informed decision on the Russian Federal Status of Sevastopol and finally solve the problems of the Black Sea Fleet.

        The grounds for considering these problems are:
        1. The will of the residents of Sevastopol and Black Sea sailors, 89% of whom answered positively to the question about its Russian status;
        2. Lack of specific decisions on the status of the city and the fleet;
        3. The ongoing financial and economic blockade of the city;
        4. Fundamentally impossible joint basing of the forces of the Black Sea Fleet and the Ukrainian Navy;
        5. Introduction of a unit of the National Guard of Ukraine into the city without coordination with the city Council of People's Deputies;

        The legal basis of the Russian federal status of the city of Sevastopol was thoroughly studied by numerous commissions, including international ones, based on the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of the RSFSR of October 29 of October 1948 on the separation of the city of Sevastopol from the Crimean Region as an independent administrative unit with the status of a city of republican subordination.

        De jure, the city of Sevastopol is still part of the Russian Federation, since during the transfer of the Crimean region from Russia to Ukraine in 1954, the 1948 Decree on the status of the city of Sevastopol was not repealed, and the subsequent extension of the jurisdiction of Ukraine to the city of Sevastopol was adopted unilaterally without adoption of an appropriate decision by the constitutional authorities of the RSFSR.

        With the collapse of the USSR in December 1991 and the formation of the sovereign states of the Russian Federation and Ukraine, the Russian legal status of the city of Sevastopol did not undergo changes, but was further confirmed by the adoption of the Resolution of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation of July 9, 1993 “On the status of the city of Sevastopol.”

        Legal unsettled relations between Russia and Ukraine by the status of the city of Sevastopol opens up opportunities for territorial claims of third countries.
        Dear politicians!

        Considering the special significance of the city of Sevastopol for Russia, the constant growth of negative consequences caused by the unresolved problems above, we ask you to comply with the will of the city residents and Black Sea sailors, restore historical justice, immediately complete negotiations on the Federal Russian status of the city of Sevastopol and finally resolve the problems of the Black Sea Fleet.

        We believe that the participation of a delegation from the Sevastopol City Council is mandatory at the negotiations.

        We believe that your state wisdom and responsibility will solve the problems of the city of Sevastopol and the Black Sea Fleet.

        Chairman of the City Council of People's Deputies of Sevastopol V. Semenov,
        Head of the City Council Secretariat K. Pavlenko,
        Chairman of the editorial commission V. Romanenko,
        Chairman of the secretariat of the session I. Kulikov
        1. 0
          28 March 2013 22: 58
          On May 31, 1997, Presidents Yeltsin and Kuchma signed the Treaty “On Friendship, Cooperation and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine.” This very Treaty should have been legally enshrined Ukrainian status Sevastopol. At the beginning of March 1998, the issue of its ratification was put on the agenda of the State Duma, but the Treaty was not ratified, and, in my opinion, has not been ratified to this day. Therefore, Ukraine introduces its own rules there exclusively independently, unilaterally, and so far not in the international legal field.
  10. Region65
    +1
    27 March 2013 08: 12
    auntie - the author of the article - is working off Western fees for good health))))))) I doubt that the Ukrainian military could say such nonsense - we don’t need Russia, we will fight, we took an oath, blah blah blah..... .yes, any normal crest would be in favor of Russia and Ukraine uniting again.....there is, of course, all sorts of Polish-Bendery husk, but these are no longer Ukrainians, this is so, a misunderstanding of history
  11. Jib
    Jib
    +3
    27 March 2013 08: 17
    No matter how the Ukrainian authorities tear their own throats. And no matter what they did, warming up the real scumbags from “Svoboda” Tyagnybok and the hucksters from “PR”, they didn’t sing to us about a pan-European house in chocolate. They understand perfectly well that the Russian Black Sea Fleet will leave Ukraine only together with Sevastopol and Crimea, and then Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson and others will follow. I agree with the majority, Sevastopol was, IS and will be a Russian city, forever connected with Russia by its glorious and tragic history, traditions and people.
  12. +1
    27 March 2013 08: 32
    They think too much about themselves, they took the oath... They were brainwashed by the Americans with nationalist ideas, (not all of them, of course), so they play the role of expendable material. If it weren't for the United States, we wouldn't have split up. And if all these zealous nationalists in the former Soviet republics understood what insignificant puppets they are, dancing to the tune of the Americans, then all these Cheburashkas shouting something like “For Vilna Ukraine” would have fun with shame and awareness of their own stupidity. But “if a person goes away, then it will last for a long time.”
  13. rodevaan
    +6
    27 March 2013 10: 18
    Dear moderators and site administration!

    I would like to ask you to stop publishing some provocative stuff like this, some fascist and openly hostile elements to our common people! Don't you understand that this only incites discord and hatred between people? We all know that the majority of people both in Ukraine and in Russia sharply condemn such nationalistic nasty stuffing of certain notorious individuals! Why litter a site that somehow claims to be one of the most adequate news portals with such openly hostile “materials”?

    Please don’t do their enemies’ work for them!
    1. Skavron
      +2
      27 March 2013 11: 24
      Subscribe
      + on top of everything, explain to some moderators that with some of their comments they are inciting something that is prohibited in clause b) of the site rules “inciting national hatred.”
      Interesting, I’ll go and reconsider my comments...maybe I’ve insulted the Russians somewhere?
      1. rodevaan
        +1
        27 March 2013 18: 23
        I didn’t write about the comments, but about the article itself. Although calling this piece of writing an article is probably too loud.
    2. 0
      30 March 2013 19: 02
      Quote: rodevaan
      Dear moderators and site administration!

      Quote: rodevaan
      Please don’t do their enemies’ work for them!

      There they have only one moderator in charge, others silently demolish all his quirks... request

      And HIM himself has no time, he constantly monitors his rating - he watches for growth, however... lol
  14. +1
    27 March 2013 13: 38
    In short, I expressed my “native” opinion:
    Parker brand fountain pens are filled with stinking pus

    All these demons, such as the minesweeper commander Tenyukh, Bezkorovayny and the other Kozhins and Yezhels, other traitors and traitors like Mamchak, Losev, Lupakov and “their name is legion” - should have a special attitude.
    Here they do not move alone, because... they know them by sight...

    Now a renegade pseudo-admiral is broadcasting from Odessa...
  15. rodevaan
    +2
    27 March 2013 20: 49
    And in general, Gentlemen, we’re fighting now, we’re arguing, we’re dividing something, we’re trying to prove something, we don’t understand what and we don’t understand why.

    Someday (and I hope that I will live to see this moment), our people will still overcome this worthless and useless split, and we will all be together again. As they were centuries before. As they were in Kievan Rus and in the Russian Empire and in the USSR. Now there is temporary turmoil, which is currently dictated by some henchmen at the top. We are divided and dismembered, they quarrel, they constantly throw in all sorts of confusion so that we quarrel with each other. Why? Because they are afraid of us. They are afraid when we are all together.
    Our people are truly great!
  16. redwar6
    +1
    27 March 2013 21: 03
    Funny article, nothing more.
  17. Jib
    Jib
    +1
    27 March 2013 22: 29
    Today in Odessa there are Natsiks mobilized from the regions and local “ultras”, several hundred people. They marched freely under the flags of the SS division through the city center, with the consent of the authorities. City websites "exploded". Local authorities have not done anything and are silent. Odessans and the hero city were lowered below the city sewerage system. Tomorrow March 28, this gang will be in Nikolaev, where the date of the liberation of the city from the German-Romanian invaders is celebrated. As they stated after learning that the “Russian March” action would be held there, public organizations, Ukrainians and Russians by nationality, seeking rapprochement with Russia. Their leaders in the media said that they would organize “Russian Mincemeat” there. Their next actions will be held in Crimea and Sevastopol. It is very unfortunate that such fascist actions are allowed and supported by corrupt creatures who have seized power. Follow the events.
    1. rodevaan
      +2
      28 March 2013 10: 35
      Quote: Kosatka
      Today in Odessa there are Natsiks mobilized from the regions and local “ultras”, several hundred people. They marched freely under the flags of the SS division through the city center, with the consent of the authorities. City websites "exploded". Local authorities have not done anything and are silent. Odessans and the hero city were lowered below the city sewerage system. Tomorrow March 28, this gang will be in Nikolaev, where the date of the liberation of the city from the German-Romanian invaders is celebrated. As they stated after learning that the “Russian March” action would be held there, public organizations, Ukrainians and Russians by nationality, seeking rapprochement with Russia. Their leaders in the media said that they would organize “Russian Mincemeat” there. Their next actions will be held in Crimea and Sevastopol. It is very unfortunate that such fascist actions are allowed and supported by corrupt creatures who have seized power. Follow the events.


      - As long as normal, ordinary people, with the tacit approval of the corrupt Westernized authorities, will silently look at this entire isolated trash and I emphasize - how - to remain silent in response - this will continue indefinitely, and they will become even more impudent. If the people had gathered together and blasted these idiots, as would certainly have happened in the Donbass or Kharkov, then all this fascist scum would have calmed down in an instant. I repeat - there are only a few of them. But apparently people don’t care about them yet.... For now, they haven’t gotten it yet, apparently completely.
  18. 0
    27 March 2013 23: 59
    When will civil war begin in Ukraine? My brother buried the sawed-off shotgun a long time ago and is waiting for a signal!
    1. +1
      30 March 2013 19: 08
      Quote: Onil
      When will civil war begin in Ukraine? My brother buried the sawed-off shotgun a long time ago and is waiting for a signal!

      What kind of bloodthirsty desires? Have you ever seen a corpse?
      Just don’t say that they were present at the funeral...
      Which in general is also not good...

      I don't even ask about killing, even an animal...

      In my experience (I’m talking about animals) - the soul is still not in the right place...

      So it’s a joke, but neither Russia nor Ukraine needs a civil war.
  19. +2
    28 March 2013 11: 10
    Quote: Egor
    Erysipelas like erysipelas. And look what epaulettes! And the accelerators! And the orders are not clear for what they received! What do you think it is easy for a country to maintain such a number of generals and admirals without an army and navy? So stop mocking me. Brothers are also called! It would be better if they sympathized.


    The smaller the army, the richer the uniform; for example, you can look at the Popuas
    1. +1
      28 March 2013 11: 50
      As a result, the article is right-wing, it almost achieved its goal, but there are too many reasonable people on the site for this, fortunately, I didn’t make it to the beginning, thank you
      "rodevaan" and other commentators, there was a fight, but I can’t agree with the collapse, the matter was illegal and contrary to the interests of the people for the benefit of a handful at the feeding trough, there is nothing to argue here, nationalism is needed to protect their interests, some behave at the level of grandmothers Khodorkovsky’s prison in his support, but they earned a thousand for retirement, not all provocateurs are on salary, is it really that much of life that is decimating our ranks?
  20. seafarer
    +3
    28 March 2013 22: 09
    Quote: rodevaan
    Quote: Aeneas
    in Ukraine there is no navy, there is a navy ...

    Gentlemen, fellow tribesmen on the other side of the border - aren’t you disgusted yourself?

    It's disgusting, but what should I do? Nobody asked us.
    And after the collapse of the Union, all these nationalist crawls did everything “so that it was not like they were.” At first we laughed at their attempts, then we cried. But now, alas, we’ve gotten used to it.
    1. rodevaan
      +1
      29 March 2013 13: 26
      Quote: seafarer
      Quote: rodevaan
      Quote: Aeneas
      in Ukraine there is no navy, there is a navy ...

      Gentlemen, fellow tribesmen on the other side of the border - aren’t you disgusted yourself?

      It's disgusting, but what should I do? Nobody asked us.
      And after the collapse of the Union, all these nationalist crawls did everything “so that it was not like they were.” At first we laughed at their attempts, then we cried. But now, alas, we’ve gotten used to it.


      - It’s okay, we’ll disperse this trash together someday. Temporarily for now, alas. It seemed like we wouldn’t be able to crawl out of Mr. before, but it seems like we’re starting to find our feet. So things will gradually get better for you there too. And from there it’s already a stone’s throw to unification.
  21. -1
    28 March 2013 23: 48
    Quote: zgenia44
    What is Russophobic material doing here? What did Russophobes get here too?


    Here is one of them

    Quote: O_RUS
    O_RUS Today, 23:32 0 
    Quote: morpex
    In principle, I suspected that you were a renegade.

    Calling me a renegade, you perceive Russia as an enemy, for a renegade is a person who has changed his beliefs and has transferred to the camp of opponents; traitor, apostate.

    ... at least it’s good that you (morpex) are just a forum fighter ... people with such a view of studying in Russia are BRAKES for the development of Ukraine
  22. Hooray-patriot
    0
    29 March 2013 20: 04
    Stupid anti-Russian article
  23. 0
    29 March 2013 21: 12
    In Russia, apparently they forgot about Peter 1, Catherine the Great, and, after all, about the Crimean War... And what does Ukraine have to do with it tongue
  24. 0
    29 March 2013 21: 46
    Here is an analogy with Crimea: Russia once got married to Ukraine. Moreover, Russia is out of love, and Ukraine, it turns out, by calculation - during the divorce, it took Crimea from Russia, without, in general, having any rights to it. There was an administrative-territorial division within the Soviet Union, which disappeared. And in the event of a divorce, why not leave within the boundaries in which you once entered?
    1. 0
      29 March 2013 21: 58
      Quote: Jarilo
      And in the event of a divorce, why not get out?

      Hmmm, immediately visible smart, honest, unmarried !
  25. 0
    29 March 2013 22: 03
    This is for the author of the article: a cat can smell whose meat it has eaten.
  26. VladimirD
    0
    30 March 2013 15: 00
    Why did Crimea become Ukrainian? By Khrushchev’s decision? So then the country was united. Or did Alcoholic Yeltsin do the right thing in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?
  27. Mervik
    +2
    30 March 2013 17: 37
    The Ukrainian leadership now is the same as it was in Russia in the 90s. Sevastopol, Crimea, Odessa themselves want (the population) to join Russia!!! I don't understand the problem? The Russians want it, the Ukrainians want it - what's the matter? Leadership, your responsibilities are to follow as desired and for the good of your people! And the Zapodenites, well, let them go to the West, let them lick the West and join NATO - $uyato.... Every year I go to Odessa - I’m sad to see the devastation, memories from the black 90s come up for me.

    Once, at the Potemkin Stairs, he signed up for a picket against Ukraine’s entry into NATO (citizen of the Russian Federation, Moscow). It can also organize a picket and signatures for joining Russia. The status is the same as that of Dagestan and North Ossetia.

    I'll go in May
  28. Hius-124
    0
    April 1 2013 03: 08
    The Slavic brothers need to change their Rada - from Kyiv to Pereyaslavl! Whoever departs from the covenants of his ancestors, the same thing happens to him!
  29. lapis lazuli
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    April 8 2013 23: 43
    Quote: Allex28
    build.baht
    These aren't rocket scientists either.