The network discusses the exchange of Russian prisoners for foreign mercenaries, members of Azov and Medvedchuk

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The network discusses the exchange of Russian prisoners for foreign mercenaries, members of Azov and Medvedchuk

The leader of "Azov" and the acting commander of the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine while sitting in the basements of the plant "Azovstal"


The network discusses information about the exchange of prisoners. Initially, it was reported that Russia released 10 citizens of foreign countries who fought for the Armed Forces of Ukraine as mercenaries. Among other things, these are citizens of Morocco, Sweden, Britain, citizens of the United States and a number of other countries. At the same time, the day before there was information that the negotiations on their transfer by the Russian side were led by the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman. Among those exchanged are British and Moroccan sentenced to death in the DPR.



Some time later, information came out stating that our side had exchanged with the enemy according to the "formula": 200 to 87. 200 - foreign mercenaries and militants, including militants of the Azov terrorist organization (*banned in Russia). According to the latest information, the Azov fighters* will be sent on one of the ships to Turkey, where they are said to remain "interned until the end of hostilities."

Resonance was caused not only by the information that Azov militants were among those exchanged, but also by the fact that Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk was also included in the exchange formula. Many perceived this fact as insulting to our military. But there are other considerations as well.

Military commander Yevgeny Poddubny shared his opinion in this regard, noting that you can reflect on this matter as much as you like, but the fact remains: firstly, such negotiations never go on in a public plane, and secondly, 87 of our soldiers and officers from Ukrainian dungeons returned to their families.

The military commissar writes that in this situation, "do not care about image losses."

From the post of Evgeny Poddubny:

I did not cover the fighting in Mariupol, but I understand the righteous anger of many fighters. But, guys, 87 lives have been saved, 87 boys are at home. Wives, children, mothers, fathers, who did not expect to see them alive, will at one moment become happy again. And in my opinion, it's worth it. For the sake of 87 of our heroes, you can change anyone. Do not wring your hands, they say, Azov people, Medvedchuk ... Just think about the fact that 87 of our guys are alive.

Meanwhile, journalist Andrei Medvedev expressed his dissatisfaction with one of the facts accompanying the exchange. He drew attention to the fact that our guys, rescued from captivity, by and large, were not met, as they should have been. Andrei Medvedev emphasizes that there was no one at the airport to meet, there were no Russian flags, no flowers for our heroes. This is indeed a particularly depressing fact, as well as the fact that the first to report on the exchange were not Russian specialized departments or large federal media, but Western channels.

The journalist explained why the decision was made to exchange "Azov". Andrei Medvedev writes that the Ukrainian side has never given us captured Russian pilots under any circumstances. Proposals coming from Kyiv - exchange for "Azov"*. It is for this reason that the exchange was carried out in this format.



Andrey Medvedev:

Why were the commanders of Azov given away? Here I don't know. I hope it was worth it. But what's important. Modern combat operations are not only the front itself. This is largely an information war. A war where the goal is the psyche of the enemy, and not only the military, but also civilians, those who are in the rear. I didn't come up with this. Long before me. Psychological operations and information warfare is part of the NATO concept.

The journalist in this regard calls to stop making mistakes in the information field.
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  1. 0
    22 September 2022 11: 08
    on the one hand, it’s good that ours are returned by any means! but on the other hand, we give them their heroes, that is, we raise their morale!
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  3. +2
    22 September 2022 11: 22
    In short, I understood the point. The authorities will betray you, the authorities will deceive you, the authorities will sell you whole. I feel sorry for Russia, but I hope Russia will once again become free from the bourgeoisie, these two-faced lying creatures.
  4. -2
    22 September 2022 11: 22
    Before you write anything, put yourself in the place of the prisoners!
  5. 0
    22 September 2022 11: 24
    dryers uk-am not




    specially needed. Volyn just sat and sits. in the photo he was confused with the ss chief of staff of azov tavr
  6. +2
    22 September 2022 11: 25
    In power, the ears of traitors and those who are ready to merge stick out, and they all spin around the body. It feels like he's turned into a talking head.
  7. +3
    22 September 2022 11: 35
    They will remain in Turkey until the end of the war. But it would have been necessary, in Kolyma for 20 years.
  8. 0
    22 September 2022 11: 48
    They announced mobilization and immediately demoralized both the military and the potential mobilized.
    They gave a shit about it, so to speak. Our 87 people could not have been exchanged for at least 300 dill, but simple ones of equal value? Why was it necessary to exchange symbols of punitive forces, who would be vacationing in Turkey, and exchange Medvedchuk back? Such a bestial attitude.
    And in general it just stinks of an agreement, just as Erdogan says that soon there will be “peace”.
    Why then are people mobilized, huh?
  9. 0
    22 September 2022 11: 49
    that it was heartbreaking from the very beginning it was clear the war was negotiated gas through Ukraine the rides of the clown and the rides of his Western friends a string of weapons destroyed for show and reporting, etc., etc. - thought the Nazis were alive, not subject to exchange, etc., etc. - out of 6 tons of prisoners we exchanged those who they wanted to shoot in the DPR and those who they wanted to imprison for life in the Russian Federation.....etc., etc., it’s wonderful that ours returned home with the future pro-Russian ruler of Rokhland (in other situations, why would he be needed) the clown correctly said that the Russian Federation is not will hit Rokhland with nuclear weapons - he knows about the agreement..... that he can move around the country and nothing will happen to him..... and with any initiative on the part of the Ukrainians for negotiations, our government will agree to them.... the terrible truth of what is happening is an agreement.....
  10. -4
    22 September 2022 11: 53
    Before you get indignant, put yourself in the place of the prisoners and the one who is responsible for the exchange and knows for the lives of the prisoners!
    You, sitting in captivity, would like to be exchanged under any conditions, so stop being indignant!
    87 for 200 is not an equal exchange? You forget this is not a market here, I won’t buy it there, I’ll buy it there!
    How were you able to agree on how much you traded so much and it turned out thanks for that too!
    Don’t forget the person who decides to exchange their lives on him, put yourself in his place!
    Medvedchuk, is he not a person or is he the rich man that each of us wants to become?
    Let me remind you that Medvedchuk was not changed before because he was not given their privileges in front of the soldiers!
    And the fact that Ukraine decided to give him a burden let him be a man and his life!
    And about foreigners and Azov, well, there will be more foreigners and others!
    You shouldn’t get caught up in emotions when you’re at home, safe, well-fed, free, you should analyze everything, put yourself in their place and then draw conclusions, be wiser!
    1. +1
      22 September 2022 15: 31
      This is somehow very unreasonable. Why do Ukrainians bargain for their own and bargain? And you suggest that we always follow their lead. Well, it’s people like you who left 123 of our soldiers to rot in captivity. Why rescue them, and thank you very much for 87. Then why 87, and not 20 or even 10. What can I say - the life of even one of our soldiers is infinitely valuable. So what? So you are no better than the military officials of the Russian Federation.
  11. 0
    22 September 2022 12: 08
    Here's what the BBC writes:
    “The release of 10 foreign nationals, including five Britons, detained by pro-Russian forces in Ukraine raises the question: why now?
    Negotiations about their fate have been ongoing for several months. So why did the Kremlin decide to sign the deal today - on the very day when Vladimir Putin announced the partial mobilization of military reservists and rattled the nuclear saber?
    Was the Russian president trying to sow confusion among the world leaders gathered at the UN in New York by making threats on the one hand and offering a gesture of goodwill on the other?
    Diplomats said it was impossible to know whether the two issues were related. But they said the Kremlin at least wanted to change the narrative, to try to seize some initiative after falling behind for weeks as it lost territory to Ukraine."
    https://www-bbc-com.translate.goog/news/uk-62988234?_x_tr_sl=en&_x_tr_tl=ru&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=sc
    Politics, all politics request
  12. +1
    22 September 2022 12: 13
    After something like this, going to mobilization, that is, Vova changing his godfather, is it equivalent? 87 to 200? And most importantly, Medvechuk, let the gdp go there!
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    1. +1
      22 September 2022 13: 00
      It was possible to have 300 Terbatov soldiers on ours and 400, but the basics are different. Now many will say - the Extraction procedure works! Those. ours were unable to push through the exchange on our terms. But the Ukrainians were able to... that’s the problem.
  14. 0
    22 September 2022 12: 28
    It's too late to flap your wings. It was necessary to discuss the question of whether to extradite or not to extradite. I understand nothing!
  15. 0
    22 September 2022 12: 31
    Quote: The Last_Knight
    “We don’t abandon our own” - there is such a slogan in the Israeli army. Remember the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit and how many Palestinians were exchanged for one simple private?

    Well, it’s clear to the authorities that Medvedchuk is his own ghoul, tens of thousands of people with Russian passports abandoned in the Kharkov region are not theirs.
  16. -1
    22 September 2022 12: 43
    Those who are dissatisfied with the exchange that took place, I want to say, imagine yourself in the place of our captured soldiers and officers, imagine yourself in the place of the parents of these guys...
    For me, at least let them take everyone away, as long as our boys are released!
    1. -1
      22 September 2022 14: 19
      Everything is correct. Look at the tears of joy of the families of the returning soldiers.
  17. 0
    22 September 2022 13: 09
    Here every “commentator” fancies himself a great strategist, seeing the battle from afar. The Supreme Commander-in-Chief knows better who and for whom to change in appropriate conditions am
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  19. 0
    22 September 2022 14: 14
    But Joseph Vissaronovich refused to exchange his own son!
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  21. -2
    22 September 2022 15: 15
    Well... Mercenaries to Dubai, Azov to Turkey, Russians to the military registration and enlistment office, and Medvedchuk will rest on our taxes... tongue
  22. +1
    22 September 2022 16: 07
    Betrayal of Russia's interests initially pours out from the walls of the Moscow Kremlin! They betrayed the submariners of the nuclear submarine "Kursk", then the pilots of the Su-24, shot down by the Turkish F-16, and so on, according to a very long list...
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  24. 0
    22 September 2022 16: 42
    For any Russian pilot you can give 200 Ukronazis. He's worth it.
    1. -1
      22 September 2022 18: 27
      I will make you happy, NOT ONE OF OUR PILOT WILL BE EXCHANGED AND WILL NOT BE EXCHANGED,
  25. 0
    22 September 2022 17: 04
    L-OhH this is Fate, it seems we are all lo o hee!
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  27. -1
    22 September 2022 17: 59
    Quote: Olga
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    This is a direct betrayal of the top

    Well, again, the same song you love. Not tired?
    Yes. Traitors are everywhere. We see how they mimic "their own" and "those who worry about the country." We see enough of them here, in VO ... traitors from "ordinary people" ... traitors and instigators ...

    Well, finally, you recognize the Russian government as traitors.
  28. 0
    22 September 2022 18: 08
    IMHO this is a shame, those who are behind this on the Russian side simply took off their pants and stood in a certain pose in front of the Nazis.
    Personally, I consider this a mockery of our dead in a special operation
  29. 0
    22 September 2022 18: 23
    Quote: KAV
    There are no good words. Generally. 200 boars for 87 of our boys? And in what condition were ours returned? No, no doubt, the fact that our people will return home is wonderful! But, why the hell did they give away the most resonant ones, and even with such an advantage ??

    Despite the fact that Medvedchuk went for 160 Azov residents! Just a joyful mood in the morning! Today several more people were killed in Donetsk, we need to give them 215 more for such an event! To add to everything else the joy that there will be no second batch of our prisoners, which seems to include our pilots!!!
    There are a lot of people here who are interested in history, maybe someone can tell me about the same war. where did you feel sorry for strangers more than your own? The proverb can simply be changed: “Beat your own so that strangers are not afraid”!
    Despite the fact that the Northern Military District was still there, despite all the mobilizations! Despite all the terrorist attacks and murders, the SBU did not even bother to declare it a terrorist organization (work “brothers”, don’t worry about anything)! If they destroy it, it’s the infrastructure of the east, which they themselves (at best) will then have to restore!
    And screenshot, I’m sure that if Ukraine finds itself in a difficult situation in winter, gas supplies through its territory will be increased (or through reverse to its share). The people of Donbass will tolerate this, but they can’t do it there. What if we have to live together with them!
  30. 0
    22 September 2022 18: 24
    They traded the bully for Luis Corvalan...
  31. 0
    22 September 2022 18: 30
    Quote: USSR_
    Betrayal of Russia's interests initially pours out from the walls of the Moscow Kremlin! They betrayed the submariners of the nuclear submarine "Kursk", then the pilots of the Su-24, shot down by the Turkish F-16, and so on, according to a very long list...

    I don’t agree with the first two, but I completely disagree with the last! We consider millet to be ours, as they say, the sheriff is not interested in the opinion of the Indians! As for the Course, do you have accurate information that the Americans sank her and, in any case, your actions? In the second, we are very dependent on Turkey because of the Bosphorus, and besides, if we continue, then trade and diplomatic relations with Germany can also be considered a betrayal?
  32. 0
    22 September 2022 18: 35
    Quote from kim
    woah woah woah...

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    I’ll say one thing - the topic of the exchange began to be dispersed by the cips
    if you are Russian, then think about who benefits from it

    Are you serious? That is, did I understand correctly that you don’t care that the Nazis were released, despite the chatter about denazification? They released the sniper. who boasted that she killed the Russians? By the way, I read in the cart a week ago that she was given a lot of time to call home, where she boasted that she would soon be allowed to go home and she would go to war again!
  33. -1
    22 September 2022 18: 37
    Quote: IvanIvanov
    It is logical to assume a force majeure exchange of those captured near Kharkov, Medvedchuk is a makeweight, no one here needs it.

    Nobody needs Putin's godfather here? These are the remaining 56 people in addition to him, otherwise it is difficult to explain the exchange of 215 for 57!
  34. 0
    22 September 2022 19: 49
    The impression is twofold; on the one hand, some of the notorious scoundrels escaped retribution, and on the other, ours (both the RF Armed Forces, the DPR and the LPR) returned alive to their homeland. But the second probably still prevails: the life of one of our soldiers or officers is more valuable than hundreds of lives of junk, which in fairness should be disposed of according to his affairs. But there are other examples: Israel once released several hundred martyrs from prison during the life of one of its sergeants (according to some sources, up to 1000), and this despite the irreconcilable position of the Israeli state towards terrorists and the active practice of extrajudicial liquidations of the most prominent people from this cohort . The country sent our people there and it is obliged to do everything to return them, and it is not the fault, but the misfortune of the individual fighter that, due to the current situation, he was captured. Another thing is that how many of ours were captured and how many of them are alive? Shoigu yesterday in an interview named the number of deaths on both sides, with ours 5937 people, although it is unclear what number this is, and most likely these are only losses of the RF Armed Forces, and yet the National Guard and some other power structures of the Russian Federation are fighting there, as well as the people DPR and LPR police. There were about 7 thousand Ukrainian military personnel and Nazis captured by the republics.
    (there was even a figure flashing under 10 thousand), according to some data, ours are an order of magnitude smaller, but at the same time this is at least the third exchange. The people in the republics were visited by a mission of the International Red Cross, even with the participation of representatives of Ukraine (the Union of "Afghans"), they checked the quality of food, the cleanliness of bed linen, they even recorded a complaint about the lack of a change of underwear. Who visited our people in captivity and in what conditions are they kept and how are they treated? After all, the Ukrainian side does not allow anyone to see our prisoners. But there are any number of shocking videos about our people being bullied, but I haven’t seen a single one where our people are mocking them. Some publications have already started a wave of questions: why the exchange was carried out secretly, why there was no ceremonial meeting with flowers, speeches and an orchestra. It seems to me that this is the last thing they need now, considering the condition in which they were returned. First, they need to be washed, dressed, fed, cured, provided with physical and psychological rehabilitation, and their families brought to them. And then it would be right for the leaders of the Russian Defense Ministry to visit them, thank them for their service, present them with awards, consider their requests, and individually decide the fate of each one. As for Medvedchuk, I don’t think that this is a powerful acquisition for the Russian Federation: firstly, judging by his photo and the testimony he gave to the SBU, he is physically and psychologically broken, and secondly, in Ukraine (maybe with the exception of southern and eastern regions) there are no organized pro-Russian forces. Although the same Denis Pushilin is grateful to him that with his participation about 1 thousand defenders of Donbass were freed
  35. 0
    22 September 2022 19: 52
    Quote: KAV
    There are no good words. Generally. 200 boars for 87 of our boys? And in what condition were ours returned? No, no doubt, the fact that our people will return home is wonderful! But, why the hell did they give away the most resonant ones, and even with such an advantage ??

    To a greater extent, our media inflated them into resonant individuals. In fact, these Nazis, I do not diminish their crimes, just like other prisoners of war, also hid behind the backs of civilians and fired at them. There is no place to put a brand there for 90% of them. We need all ours pull them out from there and of course, like many others, I have questions about Medvedchuk and how the Nazis were met and how our guys arrived at night and all on the sly. We also learn about the exchange from the enemy media and the Saudis.
  36. 0
    22 September 2022 23: 02
    After this, you can lose respect for our Government! There are no words to describe it all...
  37. Is2
    0
    22 September 2022 23: 07
    It’s good that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not immediately liberate the German fascists, because the Second World War would never have ended
  38. -1
    22 September 2022 23: 13
    I have no right to criticize, but when I see a photo of a Ukrainian officer wearing a patch with the “fleece” symbol, I will say one thing. I don't understand and maybe I don't even want to understand. I just think that from now on there will be even fewer Ukrainian soldiers. am
  39. 0
    22 September 2022 23: 50
    “But, guys, 87 lives have been saved, 87 boys are at home. Wives, children, mothers, fathers, who did not expect to see them alive, will at one moment become happy again...” I agree with him in the essence of the message. but precisely in the part “our guys are alive and have returned home”, just... tell me - did he somehow comment on the latest changes to the criminal code, namely the addition of Article 352 about “voluntary surrender”... and specifically the words in interview with one of the initiators of this addition, Andrey Kartaplov:
    question: - And if he is left alone from his unit, there is no ammunition and he raises his hands to save his life - is this voluntary surrender?
    A. Kartapolov: — This is a voluntary surrender.
    At the same time, the same A.K. says that a person who “voluntarily surrenders” is by default a traitor.
    I understand correctly that all journalists who welcome the exchange that took place are OBLIGED (P - Consistency) to condemn the proposed bill in general and specifically A. Kartapolov in particular... after all, he calls all those captured traitors to the Motherland. And even if “the law does not have retroactive force” - but this is a purely legal convention... in fact, according to the logic of A.K. those released during the exchange were also “traitors” because they did not “accept heroic martyrdom”
  40. 0
    23 September 2022 10: 01
    after all, business won... and what will Generalissimo Shoigu say about this??
  41. 0
    23 September 2022 11: 00
    PUSHILIN STATED THAT 1000 PEOPLE RETURNED TO THE DPR DURING THE EXCHANGE
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  43. 0
    23 September 2022 14: 09
    Our houses are the main thing... And those who were exchanged for, I think they will not heal
  44. 0
    23 September 2022 14: 16
    Well done! Our “leaders” are fighting well - they are exchanging the fascists and the occupied part of the Kharkov region for an ammonia pipeline))
  45. 0
    23 September 2022 17: 45
    You read something like this and it seems that it is not Izyum that has been handed over, but the Kremlin. Maybe it’s worth handing over Kuivu Medynsky, Gref, Kudrin, Nabiulin and their chief along with his godfather in exchange for our soldiers?
  46. 0
    23 September 2022 18: 48
    And Abramovich pops up again! Giving British prisoners sentenced to death guarantees of safety. Taking them home in his business jet. Treating them to tiramisu. The most amazing thing is that Abramovich also has Russian citizenship!
  47. 0
    24 September 2022 05: 40
    Release the murderers (as you gentlemen, journalists have been trying hard to convince us to do) so that their accomplices do not kill any of the other prisoners. This is a good signal(tm)...