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The network discusses the exchange of Russian prisoners for foreign mercenaries, members of Azov and Medvedchuk

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The network discusses the exchange of Russian prisoners for foreign mercenaries, members of Azov and Medvedchuk

The leader of "Azov" and the acting commander of the 36th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine while sitting in the basements of the plant "Azovstal"



The network discusses information about the exchange of prisoners. Initially, it was reported that Russia released 10 citizens of foreign countries who fought for the Armed Forces of Ukraine as mercenaries. Among other things, these are citizens of Morocco, Sweden, Britain, citizens of the United States and a number of other countries. At the same time, the day before there was information that the negotiations on their transfer by the Russian side were led by the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman. Among those exchanged are British and Moroccan sentenced to death in the DPR.

Some time later, information came out stating that our side had exchanged with the enemy according to the "formula": 200 to 87. 200 - foreign mercenaries and militants, including militants of the Azov terrorist organization (*banned in Russia). According to the latest information, the Azov fighters* will be sent on one of the ships to Turkey, where they are said to remain "interned until the end of hostilities."

Resonance was caused not only by the information that Azov militants were among those exchanged, but also by the fact that Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk was also included in the exchange formula. Many perceived this fact as insulting to our military. But there are other considerations as well.

Military commander Yevgeny Poddubny shared his opinion in this regard, noting that you can reflect on this matter as much as you like, but the fact remains: firstly, such negotiations never go on in a public plane, and secondly, 87 of our soldiers and officers from Ukrainian dungeons returned to their families.

The military commissar writes that in this situation, "do not care about image losses."

From the post of Evgeny Poddubny:

I did not cover the fighting in Mariupol, but I understand the righteous anger of many fighters. But, guys, 87 lives have been saved, 87 boys are at home. Wives, children, mothers, fathers, who did not expect to see them alive, will at one moment become happy again. And in my opinion, it's worth it. For the sake of 87 of our heroes, you can change anyone. Do not wring your hands, they say, Azov people, Medvedchuk ... Just think about the fact that 87 of our guys are alive.

Meanwhile, journalist Andrei Medvedev expressed his dissatisfaction with one of the facts accompanying the exchange. He drew attention to the fact that our guys, rescued from captivity, by and large, were not met, as they should have been. Andrei Medvedev emphasizes that there was no one at the airport to meet, there were no Russian flags, no flowers for our heroes. This is indeed a particularly depressing fact, as well as the fact that the first to report on the exchange were not Russian specialized departments or large federal media, but Western channels.

The journalist explained why the decision was made to exchange "Azov". Andrei Medvedev writes that the Ukrainian side has never given us captured Russian pilots under any circumstances. Proposals coming from Kyiv - exchange for "Azov"*. It is for this reason that the exchange was carried out in this format.



Andrey Medvedev:

Why were the commanders of Azov given away? Here I don't know. I hope it was worth it. But what's important. Modern combat operations are not only the front itself. This is largely an information war. A war where the goal is the psyche of the enemy, and not only the military, but also civilians, those who are in the rear. I didn't come up with this. Long before me. Psychological operations and information warfare is part of the NATO concept.

The journalist in this regard calls to stop making mistakes in the information field.
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 22 September 2022 06: 59
    +16
    Even the prisoners have turned into a business.
    1. KAV
      KAV 22 September 2022 07: 02
      +69
      There are no good words. Generally. 200 boars for 87 of our boys? And in what condition were ours returned? No, no doubt, the fact that our people will return home is wonderful! But, why the hell did they give away the most resonant ones, and even with such an advantage ??
      1. Mikhail Sidorov
        Mikhail Sidorov 22 September 2022 07: 09
        +58
        No, no doubt, the fact that our people will return home is wonderful! But why the hell did they give away the most resonant ones, and even with such an advantage ??

        In a period of severe trials for our society and country, such events occur.
        Okay guys returned - good. But why did they drag this piece of shit (Medvedchuk) here ...
        1. KAV
          KAV 22 September 2022 07: 52
          +63
          After such somersaults, I suspect that our guys will start taking fewer prisoners from among the Nazis. And I’m talking about mercenaries in general.
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          2. tchack
            tchack 22 September 2022 08: 00
            0
            https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2022/09/21/Two-Americans-among-10-prisoners-released-from-Russia-to-Saudi-Arabia Пишут, что формула 50 украинцев на 200 русских.
            1. Hitriy Zhuk
              Hitriy Zhuk 22 September 2022 09: 45
              0
              I also saw it, they wrote about it in the cart.
              1. Lionnvrsk
                Lionnvrsk 22 September 2022 13: 58
                0
                Andrei Medvedev writes that the Ukrainian side has never given us captured Russian pilots under any circumstances.

                Here is such info about pilots and exchanges:
                https://t.me/fighter_bomber/8654
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 22 September 2022 09: 57
              -4
              There is such an expression in the Russian language and in Russian culture ..- "Looks into a book, sees a fig" ... You are probably not a Russian person .. Maybe Russian by birth, but a cippler, a Svidozhido Bandera member in his soul. And therefore they didn’t want to read, that the second batch of our guys, more than thirty people, will arrive today, including our pilots. And for me personally, in general, to spoil the joy from above. Because even by exchanging a hundred Svidozhido Bandera for one of ours, we are doing everything right. The life of our citizens is priceless. One is worth hundreds of Jewish Bandera. And the fact that they took Medvedchuk's torture chambers from the essay was the right political move. Here and now it will bring great benefits to our country, sorry, my country hi Of Russia.
              1. SKVichyakow
                SKVichyakow 22 September 2022 10: 08
                +10
                Quote: 30 vis
                it will bring great benefits to our country

                This was hoped for at the beginning of the special operation. Everyone observed the result of this hope near Kharkov.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 22 September 2022 16: 52
                  0
                  "Medvedchuk is not just Putin's godfather, but a high-quality traitor documented by us. His guilt is fully recorded in the relevant materials collected by the SBU. In addition, while working on Medvedchuk's cases, we neutralized more than one agent network, detained many traitors and received a large number of important information used in counterintelligence activities," he said. about. head of the SBU Vasily Malyuk. If you follow this logic, then Medvedchuk was not just a pro-Russian politician, but conducted intelligence work in favor of the Russian Federation.

                  Even a failed agent must be rescued, especially if he has done so much for Russia, as Malyuk describes. It can be assumed, for example, that it was thanks to the work of the Medvedchuk network that the RF Armed Forces occupied the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions immediately from the beginning of the NMD without any problems. For this alone he is worthy of salvation. If Medvedchuk "emerges" soon in the position of an official, politician or expert in the Russian Federation, then this assumption is correct.


                  Read more at https://www.pravda.ru/politics/1751705-medvedchuk_saudi/
                  1. ramzay21
                    ramzay21 22 September 2022 19: 01
                    +5
                    Even a failed agent must be rescued, especially if he has done so much for Russia, as Malyuk describes. It can be assumed, for example, that it was thanks to the work of the Medvedchuk network that the RF Armed Forces occupied the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions immediately from the beginning of the NMD without any problems.

                    Medvedchuk is first and foremost an oligarch, with all the characteristics inherent in these creatures. And the key in your quote
                    In addition, while working on the Medvedchuk cases, we neutralized more than one agent network, detained many traitors and obtained a large amount of important information used in counterintelligence activities.

                    As a partner of Poroshenko and Russian Ambassador Zurabov, he acted in the interests of Poroshenko and, accordingly, the Nazis, and it was he who convinced Putin that our troops would be greeted with flowers. Medvedchuk is a piece of shit
                    1. Spasatel
                      Spasatel 23 September 2022 17: 45
                      +2
                      In 2004, Putin became the godfather of Medvedchuk's youngest daughter Daria.
                      Over time, their business relationship grew into a closer one due to the similarity of views, the politician said earlier.
                      26 cars, 32 apartments, 23 houses, 30 land plots, 17 parking spaces and a motor yacht were arrested. The court also seized equity stakes in 25 companies whose beneficiaries are the politician or his wife.
                      We really need him!
                      There are not enough thieves...
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              2. Retvizan 8
                Retvizan 8 22 September 2022 12: 37
                +1
                I support!
                The main thing is that our guys are being changed, but for whom? Yes, at least for the hell of a bald man, at least for the generals' coming out.
                You have to understand that UkroReich is not going to exchange simple ukrovoyaks for our guys, they demand inveterate Natsiks. From here and the result that 100 "Azov" among the exchanged.
                Well , they released Medvedchuk to the heap , what 's wrong ? He didn’t spoil us, he was ready to cooperate with Russia.
                One thing is unpleasant for me, that before that they promised all the punishments of heaven, up to the death penalty ...
                But maybe in this way they "stuffed the price"?
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 22 September 2022 16: 17
                  +1
                  When there is little information, then all emotional outbursts are meaningless.
                  Now went infa that we are talking about the exchange of all for all.
                  For Medvedchuk, Pushilin said: he pulled out more than 8 in exchange for 1000 years
                  prisoners of the LDNR. If not for him, the guys would have died ...
                  In addition, since the mercenaries were not executed, about the annexation of regions to Russia
                  makes it impossible for us to do so. So when we pull out all of ours -
                  it will be both a great victory and confirmation that we are not abandoning our own. hi
                  1. Ludmila Myshkina
                    Ludmila Myshkina 23 September 2022 14: 25
                    -1
                    so the trial of the Azov people was postponed until September 27th? and Pushilin in his position since 2018. Zakharchenko was before him. now you can’t ask how he treated Medvedchuk and the like. under Zakharchenko, even half of the number of prisoners was not collected. with him, the military fought. Ukraine recruited prisoners mainly from civilians in the Donbass and dissidents from other regions
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 23 September 2022 18: 35
                      0
                      Here's what people write:
                      I dreamed that there were at least three batches of prisoners.
                      The first is those who could move independently.
                      They were brought to Chkalovsk.
                      The second group was brought there the next day.
                      The third group is mostly heavy. They are flying to another place right now.
                      I don't know the total number. But it is much more than 55 people.
                      A good man, with good opportunities, took care of Seryoga and Max. I won’t say that it was huge, but he was, in fact, the only one who came to the rescue.

                      And don't paraffin MO.
                      MO has nothing to do with exchanges.
                      1. Ludmila Myshkina
                        Ludmila Myshkina 24 September 2022 05: 27
                        -1
                        87 people. 32 the next day. I already wrote if the first ones were in no hurry to show. then the second will not show. because there is a mobilization. well you understand
                  2. ramzay21
                    ramzay21 23 September 2022 19: 37
                    0
                    Oligarch Medvedchuk is Poroshenko's partner, and smart people don't need to explain further what he did. And by the way, the fact that Putin believed that our troops would be greeted with flowers is also his job.
                    So there is no need to explain why this shit was changed to the leaders of Azov, who killed tens of thousands of civilians in Mariupol and thousands of our soldiers and officers, including the LDNR military and foreign lovers to hunt Russians. Just shit always pulls to shit.
                    1. Ludmila Myshkina
                      Ludmila Myshkina 24 September 2022 05: 53
                      +2
                      in vain you are so about Putin. Of course, it cannot be good for everyone and in everything. the other would not lift a finger to protect the LDNR. but I didn’t do it before because your society wasn’t ready. after the sanctions for the Crimea. everything could fall apart. but I don’t believe that Medvedchuk is a fake gut, and I never will. as far as I know, a false Potroshenko. and the fact that there will be losses Putin and everyone knew perfectly well. or what was going on and going on in Ukraine, he looked at rose-colored glasses and was not aware? he is a smart man, but of course not Lenin, so that you can build a socialist system. about Medvedchuk - a lie that he introduced the Kremlin into deception about the situation. if it were so. then he dumped before the start. and nothing would stop him. in general, he was most likely taken by a hut long before the start. zeboba knew perfectly well that there would be a war and in what numbers. everything was denied so that half of the people did not run away. otherwise, who will the pindogeyropa fight with Russia
                      1. ramzay21
                        ramzay21 24 September 2022 07: 09
                        0
                        Medvedchuk is not an accomplice, but a business partner of Poroshenko. You say that you still don’t know that Medvedchuk is an oligarch and that the Russian ambassador Zurabov was friends with the same Poroshenko, financed the Maidan and your smart guarantor pretended not to notice this.
                      2. Ludmila Myshkina
                        Ludmila Myshkina 25 September 2022 05: 33
                        0
                        better tell me who is in power is not an oligarch? I don't know how and with whom Medvedchuk made millions. now you can write anything. I know until the 14th he kept a low profile. then until today in the position. I don't know who the Zurabs are at all. I know that all sorts of assholes like Kolomoisky fled from Russia to Ukraine. it's easier to steal
                2. chetvertak
                  chetvertak 22 September 2022 19: 38
                  0
                  Shariy says that they were exchanged for killers of the civilian population, as well as for killers from Azov, that they shot captured Russians
                  1. Alex777
                    Alex777 23 September 2022 18: 38
                    0
                    What was useful and to whom did that Shariy do?
                    To work with your tongue is not to roll bags. hi
                  2. Ludmila Myshkina
                    Ludmila Myshkina 24 September 2022 06: 15
                    +1
                    see Sharia's pin-board for more. I watched it before I started. Watched the first two streams. and when he started spreading fakes. and I know for sure that it's fake. when what is happening in real life is 10 minutes late from the information posted on the Internet. he created panic and spread information under the guise of helping to leave Ukraine. some young women, girls who took advantage of the "help" went abroad. disappeared. I'm not saying exactly what he did. but definitely involved. even in that that drove with criminals. and after all, they started a case against him in Britain. for pro-Russian propaganda. why isn't he sitting? who does he work for? he makes money from you. donations and YouTube pays
              3. Wbond
                Wbond 23 September 2022 12: 06
                0
                ... Israel exchanged a thousand already convicted at home, for conducting hostilities against itself, "barmaley" for one of its fighters !!! .... the life of each of its most important !!!... link https://topwar. ru/7904-izrail-palestina-tysyacha-k-odnomu.html
                1. ramzay21
                  ramzay21 23 September 2022 19: 43
                  +3
                  Israel has never changed the leaders of the terrorists responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Israelis for a wealthy Palestinian criminal, just because he is the godfather of the President of Israel. And if he had done so, the Israelis would have simply beaten him to death with sticks. And we are even happy with such an exchange.
                  1. chetvertak
                    chetvertak 23 September 2022 21: 29
                    0
                    At first I didn’t want to read about it! But I decided to read what is it about?
                    And found it!
                    Our National Anti-Hero Gilad Shalit
                  2. Monarchist
                    Monarchist 24 September 2022 01: 39
                    -1
                    Of course, the salvation of our children is the most precious thing. Fuck these killers! If only our dear ones returned home!!! So that was the price!
                2. chetvertak
                  chetvertak 23 September 2022 21: 26
                  0
                  And here's an article for you! Our National Anti-Hero Gilad Shalit
                  It is necessary to check almost everything that they say: what and how actually happened
                  TRUS OH
              4. Ant97
                Ant97 23 September 2022 15: 01
                +1
                You remind one of our very famous figure, who is the best friend of the Sultan, and whom everyone deceives. Believe "partners", do not respect yourself. Our pilots never returned today. And unlikely to return in the future.
            3. Poplar
              Poplar 22 September 2022 10: 31
              0
              They write on RBC: 49 of ours + Medvedchuk for 215 Natsiks.
              1. chetvertak
                chetvertak 23 September 2022 11: 03
                -1
                And Pushilin also said that about 1000 returned to the DPR from this hell
                1. Ludmila Myshkina
                  Ludmila Myshkina 24 September 2022 11: 31
                  0
                  this is for 8 years. and I repeat again. your Pushilin appointed in 2018. there were large prisoner exchanges until 2018. when large-scale battles were fought. under the leadership of Zakharchenko. and even then, more than half of those exchanged were civilians. from the territory of the LDNR and dissidents from other territories. militia mongrel Kyiv regime and the basements are not allowed. or disassembled
                  1. chetvertak
                    chetvertak 24 September 2022 12: 55
                    0
                    The question was asked specifically about this exchange! Maybe ours are talking only about their military personnel? And the DPR only about their own
                    1. Ludmila Myshkina
                      Ludmila Myshkina 24 September 2022 14: 15
                      0
                      the answer was that Pushilin Medvedchuk praised that 1000 liberated prisoners should be grateful to him. Yes, this thousand exchanged by Ukraine. but not all of them were militias. Half of the civilians and then the conditions were dictated by the LDNR. ukrov did not have so many prisoners for exchange. compared to how many of them gave up after the boilers. at the moment, there are about 500 prisoners from the friendly forces on the side of the dill. but if they change in such a ratio as the current one, then they will never be released
                      1. chetvertak
                        chetvertak 24 September 2022 21: 01
                        0
                        Pushilin is not Kadyrov or Zhirinovsky! And he has to somehow get out of the exchange between the Russian Defense Ministry and Ukraine and not say something against the Russian Federation. And what should he say about the question asked about Medvedchuk, if he is Putin's godfather? In theory, Pushilin should not answer this question, as R Kadyrov does. And address this question to the authorities of the Russian Federation. allow the LDNR for the exchange of prisoners. Our authorities have always betrayed anyone, as an example: volunteers from the Russian Federation at the beginning of the war of Ukraine against the LDNR, but until they themselves are thrown very large by the USA and the EU
            4. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 22 September 2022 22: 44
              0
              Quote: tchack
              They write that the formula is 50 Ukrainians for 200 Russians.

              50 Ukrainians .. commanders for 200 Russian simple boys. Pilots are not given away
          3. Rustic
            Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 12
            +21
            After such somersaults, I suspect that our guys will start taking fewer prisoners from among the Nazis. And I’m talking about mercenaries in general.
            Yes, it’s not that they don’t take prisoners. Here, as if forcibly mobilized did not begin to shoot at the traitors who give the order not to shoot at those who surrender. Now such an order is nothing more than the salvation of the Nazis, with their subsequent release without any punishment for the crimes. Betrayal and betrayal of pure water. For this, execution on the spot is due.
            1. Dyagilev
              Dyagilev 22 September 2022 09: 13
              +4
              Solidarity. Releasing ideologues is not the best solution. But, I suppose, everything here is tied to Medvedchuk. Someone really wanted to free him.
              1. Aleksandr21
                Aleksandr21 22 September 2022 09: 36
                +16
                Quote: Dyagilev
                I suppose everything here is tied to Medvedchuk. Someone really wanted to free him.


                100%, and we all even know who .... the saddest thing in this story are those promises and comments that were made a few months ago 1) Medvedchuk is a citizen of Ukraine and the Kremlin directly stated that there were no plans to exchange for him. he does not have Russian citizenship + he himself decided to stay there. 2) It was stated that the top of Azov and the nationalists will be judged, and they will pay for their crimes, in front of the inhabitants of Donbass and our soldiers. 3) Zelensky has long proposed such an exchange - the top of Azov + nationalists for Medvedchuk .... ours denied such an exchange / exchange in principle.

                As a result, we have (again) an ugly situation (to put it mildly, without mats).

                As for the exchange of our guys, I'm glad and I think that they deserve it, but why weren't they exchanged for other Ukrainian soldiers who are in captivity? After all, there are thousands of them (VSUshnikov), couldn’t ours have chosen less radical personnel for the exchange? Zelensky disagreed? So it was necessary to put the squeeze on ... to show firmness, and give some cadres to Azov, but for everyone, and even the top, it's too much.

                Now who is responsible for the crimes against Donbass? And the relatives of those who died through the fault of Azov .... how will they look into the eyes?
                1. nikniknik
                  nikniknik 22 September 2022 10: 27
                  +2
                  in full solidarity. again a goodwill gesture. sorry for our guys, how many of them are gone and how many will not be
                2. Ludmila Myshkina
                  Ludmila Myshkina 22 September 2022 10: 48
                  +1
                  when I found out on whose initiative negotiations were conducted. immediately forced to compare facts and consequences. Medvedchuk's wife turned to Erdogan. Erdogan is involved in all planes and wins chips everywhere. So he pushed through Medvedchuk's exchange. It was not in vain that he went to the SCO. the second figurant is a Saudi prince. as we remember, at the funeral of an old British woman, he was put out the door. But how to win over and return the favor of the owners? it is natural to participate in some kind of processes on the world stage. I don't know what promises and urges the Russian side received. but obviously got it. because there would be no exchange on unfavorable terms to the other side. so we'll be watching. even well-disguised is revealed
                3. iz odessy
                  iz odessy 22 September 2022 13: 48
                  0
                  years changed Ukrainian citizens to Ukrainian, in the LDNR
                4. alebdun2000
                  alebdun2000 22 September 2022 23: 09
                  +1
                  You are a real saboteur, inciting people. It is said in Russian "Ukrainians do not agree to the exchange of our pilots and officers without the exchange of Azov." You can show your hardness until your son or father is captured, and then we'll see
                  1. guest
                    guest 23 September 2022 00: 45
                    0
                    Quote: alebdun2000
                    You can show your hardness until your son or father is captured, and then we'll see

                    Stalin would not agree with you.
                    1. Wbond
                      Wbond 23 September 2022 22: 08
                      -1
                      ... it's not about Stalin, but about you ... about your son ...
                      1. guest
                        guest 24 September 2022 00: 21
                        +1
                        Well, if I personally were in the same position, I would do the same as Stalin. Well, this is the kind of person I consider negotiations with terrorists, and even more so, unacceptable, and the hostages must be released by other methods.
                  2. ramzay21
                    ramzay21 23 September 2022 19: 52
                    +2
                    And how many pilots were released, do not tell me? The Ukrainians would have exchanged all our prisoners of war for such a composition, but the guarantor decided to exchange them for the oligarch Medvedchuk. So don't tell stories.
              2. ramzay21
                ramzay21 23 September 2022 19: 50
                +2
                It's time to call a spade a spade. Of course, the main object of the exchange was the oligarch Medvedchuk, the godfather of the guarantor. And it was the guarantor who decided to exchange him for foreign lovers of hunting for Russians and for the leaders of Azov, because of whom tens of thousands of Mariupol residents and hundreds of our soldiers died.
                And our soldiers were changed for the background, so that the Zaputins could squeal that the main thing was that our soldiers were changed.
            2. Alex777
              Alex777 22 September 2022 17: 02
              -2
              Quote from Rustic
              Here, as if forcibly mobilized did not begin to shoot at the traitors who give the order not to shoot at those who surrender.

              I'm sorry, are you writing from the couch or from the trench?
              1. Rustic
                Rustic 22 September 2022 17: 32
                0
                Quote: Alex777
                Quote from Rustic
                Here, as if forcibly mobilized did not begin to shoot at the traitors who give the order not to shoot at those who surrender.

                I'm sorry, are you writing from the couch or from the trench?

                For what purpose are you interested? Are you worried about the integrity of your skin?
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 22 September 2022 19: 51
                  -2
                  Did you register in August and feel cool? They burned down the office.
                  1. Rustic
                    Rustic 22 September 2022 23: 11
                    +2
                    Funny. Especially to hear from a fan of virtual stars. You used to be smarter than that. Got dementia?
                    1. Alex777
                      Alex777 22 September 2022 23: 36
                      -2
                      Do not doubt. I recognized the chicken in flight immediately. bully
                      1. Rustic
                        Rustic 22 September 2022 23: 56
                        +1
                        Well, that's understandable. The worm knows better who flies over it.
          4. Anatoly 288
            Anatoly 288 22 September 2022 08: 47
            +32
            And the message is cool and iconic, come on a safari, relax, do what you like - the maximum that threatens a couple of weeks of discomfort, and then they will change it! Sweet impunity! Government incompetence? Special steps of certain individuals to discredit the country? Now I understand Truss and Scholz their mockery, dismissive attitude and smirks ... and who is the beneficiary of such success? The boy gave his word ... and did the opposite. But the people believed, a wave of patriotism began, and the authorities ... everything, however, as always
            1. builder
              builder 22 September 2022 08: 58
              -18
              You don’t think about these creatures, but about the fact that your guys were pulled out. Dissolved here.
              1. Lyuba1965_01
                Lyuba1965_01 22 September 2022 18: 14
                0
                On the one hand, I agree with you.
                With another....
                The most stubborn ones were changed to ours, which is good.
                But these stubborn (not some kind of terrorist defenders, cannon fodder, so to speak), well-trained and motivated, will again go to war against our boys.
                And how many of our guys will they kill yet?
                They put ours in order to take them prisoner, now they will put more of ours in order to fight with them again.
                Well, where is the logic here?
                1. chetvertak
                  chetvertak 22 September 2022 19: 45
                  +1
                  No one even thinks about what you wrote! After all, how it will turn out. Some were exchanged and we are proud of our own, and those who die after the exchange, with the same exchanged Nazis, we don’t think! And glory should be to the dead guys with the people of Azov
                2. Alex777
                  Alex777 22 September 2022 19: 56
                  -2
                  Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                  The most stubborn ones were changed to ours, which is good.
                  But these stubborn (not some kind of terrorist defenders, cannon fodder, so to speak), well-trained and motivated, will again go to war against our boys.
                  And how many of our guys will they kill yet?
                  They put ours in order to take them prisoner, now they will put more of ours in order to fight with them again.
                  Well, where is the logic here?

                  The Azov leadership was interned in Turkey until the end of the war.
                  How it will be - time will tell. At least that's what they say now.
                  1. Lyuba1965_01
                    Lyuba1965_01 22 September 2022 21: 40
                    +2
                    Forgive me for being rude, but, as my grandmother used to say, they say they milk chickens in Moscow, they say, and f *** flies, but not everyone knows about it.
                    And another question: can Turkey be trusted?
                    1. guest
                      guest 23 September 2022 00: 50
                      +4
                      Quote: Lyuba1965_01
                      And another question: can Turkey be trusted?

                      Those who like to get a knife in the back, yes, but of course not.
              2. ramzay21
                ramzay21 23 September 2022 19: 57
                +1
                Ukrainian oligarch and partner Poroshenko Medvedchuk is not my boyfriend. He is the boyfriend of our guarantor, and only for this reason the guarantor ordered to exchange him for foreign lovers to hunt Russians and the leaders of Azov, because of whom tens of thousands of Mariupol residents were killed
          5. AAK
            AAK 22 September 2022 11: 39
            +2
            I completely agree with you, I even believe that the situation with whether to take dill prisoner or not has already changed 3-4 months ago, they are now being taken more on a residual basis, surrendered, surrendered, no means no. As for the "godfather", his banders EMNIP offered to replace him during the storming of Mariupol, Ours could have done this earlier, but it was clear that he was very angry with this stupid godfather for a complete bummer with the "transition of power in Ukraine into the hands of a democratic government "well, as in a joke from the times of the USSR about a parrot talking too much" ... well, what a bastard, I found out what Siberia and frosts are .. ". For me personally, the question is more about not the very fact of this exchange and past exchanges, but the fact that our soldiers and officers were regularly captured throughout the entire period of the military conflict in Ukraine, and most likely the reason is not so much a personal mental weakness (to undermine oneself and not everyone can and not everyone wants enemies, although later many began to think that it would be better if they were blown up ...), how many coincidences: - the column went without proper protection, ran into an ambush ... the soldiers were left without ammunition, and there is no way to move away from the line ... the pilots were shot down, but there were no rescuers or did not have time to approach ... etc. - that is, captivity, this, as a rule, is a consequence of the command and control mess in our army, but it is clear that the experience of the Second World War does not teach anything ... everything has to be realized again "through the fifth point" ...
            1. Wbond
              Wbond 23 September 2022 22: 12
              0
              ... I completely agree ... sound and to the point ...
          6. Kawado
            Kawado 22 September 2022 13: 50
            0
            It is not clear why they were taken prisoner at all. I can understand capturing ordinary Armed Forces of Ukraine, who were often recruited from the street without their consent, but why capturing Nazis and mercenaries is not at all clear. How many people they killed - not to count. And how many more will be killed.
          7. bayard
            bayard 23 September 2022 02: 34
            +1
            Quote: KAV
            After such somersaults, I suspect that our guys will start taking fewer prisoners from among the Nazis. And I’m talking about mercenaries in general.

            Ramzan has already promised that it will be so.
        2. Zheka-Filimonov
          Zheka-Filimonov 22 September 2022 08: 12
          +13
          Godfather, brother, matchmaker - nothing new!
          Everything as usual
          1. aglet
            aglet 22 September 2022 08: 34
            +10
            "Kum, brother, matchmaker - nothing new!"
            Well Duc, we don’t leave our own!
        3. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 16
          +6
          The same angry question. I remember Medvedchuk very well as a politician and as a speaker, he was torn by a whole bunch of journalists and then he deserved my respect, fought back, and there the question was who tore whom, but Russia is not hot or cold from this. What the heck is he needed? I do not remember that he hinted at least once about the Crimea and Donbass.
        4. ramzay21
          ramzay21 22 September 2022 08: 18
          +33
          Obviously, the main figure for the exchange was the godfather of the guarantor, the oligarch Medvedchuk, the rest of our boys were a makeweight so that we could not dump our own people into the scam. So don't be fooled. The leaders of Azov, as well as foreign mercenaries, were exchanged for Medvedchuk, the rest one for one.
          It has long been clear that if our guarantor somewhere creates a fog of secrecy, then he has already shat somewhere and shit will soon come up.
          1. Rikochet
            Rikochet 22 September 2022 12: 34
            0
            Quote: ramzay21
            Obviously, the main figure for the exchange was the godfather of the guarantor, the oligarch Medvedchuk, the rest of our boys were a makeweight so that we could not dump our own people into the scam. So don't be fooled. The leaders of Azov, as well as foreign mercenaries, were exchanged for Medvedchuk, the rest one for one.
            It has long been clear that if our guarantor somewhere creates a fog of secrecy, then he has already shat somewhere and shit will soon come up.

            Well, right in the eye.
          2. Gofman
            Gofman 22 September 2022 22: 05
            0
            Quote: ramzay21
            shit is coming soon
            Regarding all this indecency, Popov brought a good quote from Rozanov to MK today: “To love a happy and great homeland is not a great thing. We must love her precisely when she is weak, small, humiliated, finally, stupid, finally, even vicious. Precisely, precisely, when our “mother” is drunk, lying, and all entangled in sin, we must not leave her...”
            But the Motherland is the Motherland, and regarding the main initiator and "engine" of all this modern humiliation, depravity, sin and lies, one can also only express it this way:
        5. midivan
          midivan 22 September 2022 08: 23
          0
          Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
          No, no doubt, the fact that our people will return home is wonderful! But why the hell did they give away the most resonant ones, and even with such an advantage ??

          In a period of severe trials for our society and country, such events occur.
          Okay guys returned - good. But why did they drag this piece of shit (Medvedchuk) here ...

          Unfortunately, I don’t know if all of our people were rescued, and if they were all, then such a picture emerges - since ours are not in captivity, then you can safely start to nightmare Kyiv, for a start, gasp at the SBU building right in the capital, and at the same time there will not be to sit fastened to the battery, our pilot or the same Medvedchuk, now we know for sure that there are no our people in the decision-making centers ...
          1. Mikhail Sidorov
            Mikhail Sidorov 22 September 2022 08: 32
            +1
            since ours are not in captivity, it means that you can safely start to nightmare Kyiv, for a start, gasp at the building of the SBU right in the capital, and at the same time our pilot will not sit there fastened to the battery

            Yes, I also had this thought. Apparently, there will soon be an official declaration of war, followed by a set of military measures in all major cities of Ukraine.
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 22 September 2022 12: 34
              +2
              Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
              Yes, I also had this thought. Apparently, there will soon be an official declaration of war, followed by a set of military measures in all major cities of Ukraine.

              Will not. It's finally becoming clear. that the tightening of the so-called. SVO is beneficial to everyone.
              1. Mikhail Sidorov
                Mikhail Sidorov 22 September 2022 12: 42
                +3
                Will not. It's finally becoming clear. that the tightening of the so-called. SVO is beneficial to everyone.

                And what is beneficial for Russia? hi
                1. lis-ik
                  lis-ik 22 September 2022 12: 51
                  -2
                  Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
                  Will not. It's finally becoming clear. that the tightening of the so-called. SVO is beneficial to everyone.

                  And what is beneficial for Russia? hi

                  Not Russia, without this it is not clear what, the authorities will not sit long in their heavens, but so ... understand and forgive. Remember the situation before the NWO. The rating of EP crooks is below the plinth, the economy is a complete mess, the impoverishment of the population, i.e. NWO was worth it for them to sit in their seats.
                2. Lyuba1965_01
                  Lyuba1965_01 22 September 2022 18: 37
                  -2
                  Let's tell the truth, no matter how cynical it may be.
                  Any war is the engine of the economy (unless, of course, it is on our territory), these are new technologies, because almost everything that has now gone to the people is technology created for the military or for intelligence, take for example at least the same mobile phone.
                  Construction in liberated territories like Mariupol means new jobs, the rise of enterprises related to building materials and related products such as windows, doors, wallpaper, paint, hardware, etc.
                  This is the construction of new factories from scratch, which is much more profitable than modernizing existing ones, this is the workload of the defense industry.
                  I read that now Russian shipyards are loaded with orders in full, which also helps the development of the economy.
                  They talk about the rapid growth of the economy of the USSR after the end of the Second World War.
                  But in this growth there were merits and the construction industry, industrial, etc.
                  Look how the US economy has risen on Lend-Lease, although, as I heard, they did not earn much on it.
                  But he was the reason for the growth of the economy after the Great Depression.
                  You see, the economy does not care about the death of people, it lives and works according to its own laws.
          2. aglet
            aglet 22 September 2022 08: 35
            +10
            "since ours are not in captivity, then you can safely start to nightmare Kyiv,"
            very funny
            1. midivan
              midivan 22 September 2022 08: 42
              +1
              Quote: aglet
              "since ours are not in captivity, then you can safely start to nightmare Kyiv,"
              very funny

              So laugh...
              1. aglet
                aglet 22 September 2022 09: 21
                +2
                "So laugh..."
                laughing laughing ! what else is left?
          3. opposite28
            opposite28 22 September 2022 08: 37
            +10
            Something suggests that not all prisoners were released from Ukraine.
          4. Slon_on
            Slon_on 22 September 2022 09: 55
            0
            Your subtle sarcasm is understood. You big +.
          5. Ludmila Myshkina
            Ludmila Myshkina 22 September 2022 10: 55
            -4
            what all. after the counter-offensive, there were many times more of them than were exchanged. just looking at what condition they were in. if y-k-r-s leave their wounded. then the Russians are not at all shameful and finish off
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 23 September 2022 09: 14
              -1
              Quote: Lyudmila Myshkina
              after the counteroffensive, there were many times more of them

              Do you have numbers or OBS TsIPSoshnaya suggested?
              1. Ludmila Myshkina
                Ludmila Myshkina 23 September 2022 10: 16
                -2
                are you friends with your head? who you are? sorosnya or bulk me hang labels!
                1. Alex777
                  Alex777 23 September 2022 11: 08
                  -1
                  I asked a normal question. Before you write, you need to know - how much
                  it was the soldiers who were captured near Kharkov. If you don't know, don't write.
                  As for labels - "isn't it better to turn on yourself, godfather? ..". bully
                  1. Ludmila Myshkina
                    Ludmila Myshkina 23 September 2022 13: 31
                    -2
                    you express your opinion. I have the right to express everything. and you have to be blind and stupid. not to understand how hastily abandoned settlements and territories in the Kharkov region. that even the technology was abandoned. everything was filmed. and no one began to deny from the side of the NWO forces. so that it means that not a few were captured in battle or without it. But about the labels. see a lot of bloggers. and everywhere you seem to be CIA agents of the Pentagon 72 tsipso
        6. Geosun
          Geosun 22 September 2022 08: 40
          -22
          If the leaders of Turkey and Saudi Arabia participated in the negotiations, then the stakes were really high. It is clear that we have lost emotionally, only. I guess they won something else. For example, when we did not give Snowden away, we won a lot in emotions, but we lost a lot in politics, economics and sports. Don't know which is better.
          1. ohka
            ohka 22 September 2022 08: 48
            +29
            We have lost primarily in moral and ideological terms. Can you imagine what media-mobilizing effect the fact of exchange (SUCH exchange) will have in Ukraine? Zelensky promised to pull him out of captivity and pulled him out, the guarantor promised to judge and-and-and...
            1. Slon_on
              Slon_on 22 September 2022 10: 11
              +1
              How this exchange was presented in our mass media - "this is some kind of shame" (c), starting from the fact that it became known about this "from the opposite side of the front sight." It is impossible in the 21st century to be guided by the provisions of the directives of the GLAVPURA on the organization of agitation and propaganda in the SA and the Navy of the 50-70s of the last century. But Konashenkov, for example, knows exactly how many Kraken fighters were destroyed when a shell hit, you see, they will soon be promoted in rank.
            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik 22 September 2022 12: 36
              +6
              Quote: ohka
              Zelensky promised to pull him out of captivity and pulled him out, the guarantor promised to judge and-and-and...

              the guarantor is always like this, but Zelensky turned out to be strong enough in everything, cunning and resourceful and far from a coward. Here's a drug addict for you.
          2. TANKa
            TANKa 22 September 2022 09: 03
            +20
            When words disagree with deeds, it greatly undermines faith in the state! No one pulled for language, that Medvedchuk is a citizen of Ukraine and will not be changed. Also, no one pulled that foreign mercenaries would be executed according to the laws of the LDNR. It would be better if the Kremlin did not comment on what was happening than to disappoint people in the wake of the first partial mobilization! The only joy from this is that the guys returned home! But the siege of deceit remained (
          3. wladimirjankov
            wladimirjankov 22 September 2022 15: 43
            +2
            known. When Gorbachev handed over the sick old Honecker. What did he get for it? what are the benefits for the country, what goodies? One has only to start betraying in small things, the big thing will not get up.
        7. skeptick2
          skeptick2 22 September 2022 08: 44
          0
          Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
          But why did they drag this piece of shit (Medvedchuk) here ...

          Kum is kum. Need to understand.
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 22 September 2022 12: 47
            -1
            Quote from: skeptick2
            Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
            But why did they drag this piece of shit (Medvedchuk) here ...

            Kum is kum. Need to understand.

            And also a prince from an oil and gas country .......
        8. igork735
          igork735 22 September 2022 08: 45
          +10
          midivanToday, 08:23
          "But why did they drag this piece of shit (Medvedchuk) here..."

          So he, most likely, was supposed to head the new government after the entry of troops into Ukraine and the throw to Kiev. Everyone had to scatter in fright. But something went wrong.
          1. Rustic
            Rustic 22 September 2022 09: 26
            +1
            So he, most likely, was supposed to head the new government after the entry of troops into Ukraine and the throw to Kiev. Everyone had to scatter in fright. But something went wrong.
            Why do we need another one like this? We have a yanyk and so it grubs to no avail.
        9. hermit
          hermit 22 September 2022 09: 21
          0
          And who will be the head of the military-civilian administration of the Kyiv region or the governor of Little Russia?
          1. guest
            guest 23 September 2022 00: 58
            0
            I think there are better people for this.
        10. Ne_ta
          Ne_ta 22 September 2022 20: 17
          0
          So Medvedchuk was on our side and he was given to the Ukrainians, or vice versa?
      2. Ludmila Myshkina
        Ludmila Myshkina 22 September 2022 07: 40
        +10
        6 were sent to the hospital. one heavy. and so far the Russians have been exchanged 55. today they should send 32. these ones are not exactly known in what condition. since they didn’t even show the first
        1. filibuster
          filibuster 22 September 2022 09: 49
          +9
          Well, I don’t know how ours are in the information war, as the USSR was poorly able to do it, the current elite can do it even worse. Putin, Shoigu, Patrushev, Lavrov, they all live in a completely different mentality. In Ukraine, prisoners are greeted like heroes are made from this show, but we just have a complete vacuum, they don’t even talk about the exchange, Zelensky goes to Izyum and again this is a whole show, with us Putin, on the contrary, only farther from the NWO leaves for exercises in the Far East.
          And then they are surprised that this people did not sign up as volunteers and a huge number of 500s, that they had to urgently change laws and introduce partial mobilization in order to prevent mass cases of early termination of contracts.
      3. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
        Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 22 September 2022 07: 42
        +37
        There is such a film "Zhmurki" and its hero Mikhalych with his phrase: You were thrown!. Everyone remembers how violently the mercenaries were judged, how the scaffold was prepared for them, how they angrily threatened that all "geese" would face an imminent death penalty ... and then they leaked them to Ben Salman! Well, the type that almost personally, without trial or investigation, executed the enemy of his state.
        It is necessary to change prisoners, to change war criminals - no! They must be condemned.
        What happened is an example of our age-old balabolstvo .... "taira-gas chambers", Nazis-Azov, ugh ... all this is disgusting and disgusting!
        1. Taimen
          Taimen 22 September 2022 07: 59
          +31
          A regiment of fascists has arrived. Again, 200 snouts will fight against us. This is what they call it, if you do not use swear words. Merchants, along with the liberated godfather Medvedchuk on horseback. too much.
          1. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 20
            +7
            Even if they are not, as stated in the message, interned, it means they will be next time. I'm crazy happy for those kids back with their families, but don't we have a more balanced exchange fund?
            With all due respect to Poddubny, the mercenaries realized that if they were captured, it would not necessarily end in death. Dangerous precedent.
            1. Magog_
              Magog_ 22 September 2022 09: 28
              +1
              the mercenaries understood ... this will not necessarily end in fatality
              These mercenaries, if not complete idiots, must understand that no one will take them prisoner ... after this. Therefore, "these" will be up to the last bullet, and the most far-sighted will fade away early from their positions or even from the outskirts. This is already observed, but now it will be more definite.
              The exchange was made quietly, and the moment was chosen wisely: to the sound of "partial mobilization". Masters with a capital letter work here!
              1. Boson
                Boson 22 September 2022 11: 35
                +8
                Looks like those who carried out the pension reform at the time of the World Cup.
            2. Magog_
              Magog_ 22 September 2022 10: 02
              +2
              exchange fund?
              More than 2 are sitting on the exchange of "Azovites". Moreover, you can reassure them all: they are no longer threatened with the death penalty. After the referendum, the DPR will be part of the Russian Federation, and the laws of the republic will cease to be valid, the courts will not be ready to hold a tribunal soon, especially since the latter needs to be determined by our "lawyers" in power. Do you understand the idea further?
          2. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 36
            -8
            Hardly trade, rather - Kharkov force majeure
          3. Rikochet
            Rikochet 22 September 2022 12: 47
            +1
            Quote: Taimen
            A regiment of fascists has arrived. Again, 200 snouts will fight against us. This is what they call it, if you do not use swear words. Merchants, along with the liberated godfather Medvedchuk on horseback. too much.

            Here is the correct definition of a tradesman, it was not in vain that the main negotiator was Abramovich, and that partial mobilization is a diversionary maneuver, now they will plow in the restoration of Little Russia as guards for Medvedchuk and the rest of the camarilla.
            1. guest
              guest 23 September 2022 01: 04
              0
              Quote: Rikochet
              chief negotiator was Abramovich

              Well, if this organizer of "goodwill gestures" really was the main negotiator, then nothing good should be expected.
        2. Shukhov
          Shukhov 22 September 2022 09: 22
          -4
          It seems to me that all these exchanges of the Navozites from the basics of steel are links in one deal in which they surrendered in Mariupol.
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 22 September 2022 10: 16
          +6
          Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          It is necessary to change prisoners, to change war criminals - no! They must be condemned.
          What happened is an example of our age-old balabolstvo .... "taira-gas chambers", Nazis-Azov, ugh ... all this is disgusting and disgusting!

          The worst thing is that we handed over another information ram into the hands of the enemy, which will be used against us. If mercenaries, completely devoid of morality, are ready to kill for money, then they will "testify" for money in a chant. Buchi and Raisins were not enough for us. Soon, these "condemned and resurrected" sent by Western propagandists will begin to broadcast to the "gullible Western man in the street" about how bloodthirsty orcs eat Ukrainian prisoners every day in Russian prisons.
          Exchanges are needed, there are no questions, but if we announced to the whole world that mercenaries, unlike prisoners / prisoners, are outside the law and will be shot, then we must be consistent and carry out the sentence as a warning to others. Why is our main position that it (the position) is absent and is softness? Well, how much can you jump on a rake?
          1. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
            Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 22 September 2022 13: 41
            +3
            I always rack my brains, why are we so inconsistent?! Why show-offs are more expensive than verified solutions? Why are we beating ourselves up???
            First, we will cut, we will hurt, we will do things, and then painfully and stupidly we try to explain to our people that this is "... in force and in connection with ... because in view of ... considering the fact that ...".. ..Sometimes it seems to me that we don’t even need enemies, we harm ourselves so much that they even envy us there!
          2. Ne_ta
            Ne_ta 22 September 2022 20: 25
            +1
            You might think reliable information will put everything in its place. The Western media create exactly the same information environment as the Ukrainian ones (and the testimony of mercenaries will not make the weather special) - Russia is obviously an aggressor for them (even if we broadcast live from the places of detention of prisoners. The results of the IAEA visit to the Zaporizhzhya NPP confirm this. The main information ram - the emergence of real problems for the same Europeans and a cooling off towards the Ukrainian agenda (which, I think, is not far off).
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 22 September 2022 22: 19
              +1
              Quote from Ne_ta
              The main informational battering ram is the emergence of real problems for the same Europeans and a cooling off towards the Ukrainian agenda (which, I think, is not far off).

              This is not yet the main, but an accompanying "anti-ram", which, as problems grow in Europe, will become the main one, which, if not completely interrupting the agenda from Ukraine to its own problems, will at least greatly weaken it. (Which, I also think so, is not far off) yes
        4. yuriy55
          yuriy55 22 September 2022 12: 45
          +4
          Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
          It is necessary to change prisoners, to change war criminals - no!

          good Key thought.
          That is why no one wants to reckon with the Russian authorities ...
          It is these actions fly in the ointment in a pot of honey...
          *****
          It turned out that my gut didn’t let me down when I noticed that I haven’t heard about the trial of the Azov people for a long time ...
          *****
          As for the honey pot, then:
        5. Ne_ta
          Ne_ta 22 September 2022 20: 20
          0
          I wonder who is responsible for these exchanges (is it someone's personal responsibility or collective?) and whether the supreme commander is aware of ...
      4. aglet
        aglet 22 September 2022 08: 32
        +7
        "But why the hell did they give away the most resonant ones, and even with such an advantage??"
        probably the partners asked
      5. vitvit123
        vitvit123 22 September 2022 08: 40
        -6
        Can your suggestions be heard? How should it have been done?
        1. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 22 September 2022 09: 01
          +3
          vitvit123:
          Change one to one, at least.
          Or what, there are no normal diplomats in the role of negotiators in Russia? Again Medinsky is negotiating. And the fact that there are no more Russian prisoners of war - I don’t believe it. Infa flashed that there are much more than two hundred Russian prisoners of war.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 22 September 2022 10: 44
            0
            Well, what if the Ukrainians have rested and there is no other way? What to do ? How we want this one thing, comprehend from the position that Ukrainians have no other way .. that you don’t believe in the case will not come to mind ..
            1. yuriy55
              yuriy55 22 September 2022 12: 55
              +1
              Quote: vitvit123
              Well, what if the Ukrainians have rested and there is no other way? What to do ?

              I wanted to answer, but I got ahead of myself:
              Quote: aglet
              First, everything has already happened.
              secondly, my proposals are of no interest to anyone

              I can only add from myself. If the Ukrainians resist, then the pressure on them does not correspond to their own atrocities, it means empty chatter about red lines and blows to the decision-making centers on their drum.
              I want to remind you about the son of Stalin and the well-known phrase among the people:
              “I don’t change a soldier for a field marshal!”
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 22 September 2022 13: 22
                -2
                I can only say one thing
                You would have to sit in captivity, at least a couple of hours, I'm sure, they would babble differently ...
                1. yuriy55
                  yuriy55 22 September 2022 14: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: vitvit123
                  You would have to sit in captivity, at least a couple of hours, I'm sure, they would babble differently ...

                  Don't try on your hat for me. If you do not want to adequately perceive the words, do not rush into "killer" criticism ... Who told you that I would be captured?
                  And what if you, being in captivity not the fifty-fifth, but the fifty-sixth, found out that the exchange was not calculated on you? They would babble differently.
                  1. vitvit123
                    vitvit123 22 September 2022 14: 54
                    -2
                    Some kind of nonsense .. you won’t sort through the entire number series?
                    If I were 56th, I would regret it just like 99999999999999999⁹th .., this does not mean anything .. well, yes, get richer further ..
              2. guest
                guest 23 September 2022 01: 12
                0
                Quote: yuriy55
                I want to remind you about the son of Stalin and the well-known phrase among the people:

                But unfortunately Stalin is not here today.
        2. aglet
          aglet 22 September 2022 09: 25
          +1
          "Your proposals can be heard? How should it have been done?"
          First, everything has already happened.
          secondly, my proposals are of no interest to anyone (well, maybe, except for you, for the development of a dialogue), and will never be taken into account by the authorities
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 22 September 2022 10: 45
            0
            Then it was not necessary to say A, if you do not want to substantiate this, those who were told, it would be more logical to keep silent,
            1. aglet
              aglet 22 September 2022 11: 15
              -1
              "Then you shouldn't have said A"
              Do you think everything was done right? then justify your words, and do not say a. that yours, that mine, that Putin's words are just fluctuations in the air. and the thing is done by the one who steers Putin.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 22 September 2022 13: 20
                -3
                My dear, I did not say anything - I claimed, unlike you! I was just asking....
                But in fact ...... Therefore, I am glad to return from captivity of our guys (because I always "try on their shirt" on myself and this is the main thing for me ..
                Regarding the empty talk that nothing depends on us .... I don’t think about it, because it doesn’t depend on me wink .
                But I don’t cheat people either, unlike ....
                1. yuriy55
                  yuriy55 22 September 2022 14: 47
                  -1
                  Quote: vitvit123
                  But I don’t cheat people either, unlike ....

                  But we do not fool people with lies and leavened patriotism.
                  *****
                  And we rejoice together with the relatives of the soldiers who returned from captivity. We perfectly understand who the “heroes of Ukraine” are and how they differ from the heroes of Russia. This is probably why on all channels there are messages about the returned fifty-five Russian prisoners of war, and no one says who and how much was given in return.
                  *****
                  War criminals were tried by a military tribunal, and prisoners were forced to work off their sins. No one was surprised why, many years after the Second World War, punishers were searched for and executed. That is why the decision to release punishers and sadists (even in exchange) raises a lot of questions...
                  No indignation, no pickets, no demonstrations, but JUST ONLY - QUESTIONS!!!
                  If you don't have the answers to them, don't waste your time.
                  1. vitvit123
                    vitvit123 22 September 2022 14: 56
                    -2
                    So you answered my comment, which was not addressed to you, therefore, in this case, there will be no dialogue with you ....
                    And get richer
                    1. yuriy55
                      yuriy55 22 September 2022 15: 18
                      0
                      Quote: vitvit123
                      So you responded to my comment, which was not addressed to you

                      So who the hell will figure out who you are answering. In my comment, everything is clear: a quote from the author's message + answer.
                      *****
                      The Russian language has a lot of tools to emphasize the essence of thought.
                      I don't understand what kind of wealth you are talking about here:
                      Quote: vitvit123
                      And get richer

                      I don't see the point in this.
                      1. vitvit123
                        vitvit123 22 September 2022 15: 25
                        0
                        The arrows touch on the comments and you are shown the comments to which the answer was ...
                        Regarding what you don’t see the point in my final words, a separate ATP ..
                2. aglet
                  aglet 23 September 2022 08: 57
                  0
                  "I didn't say anything - I claimed, unlike you!"
                  What do you think I was saying?
      6. Lex_is
        Lex_is 22 September 2022 09: 35
        +14
        The problem is not 200 boars.
        The problem is that releasing with impunity those who publicly brutally killed our captured soldiers and killed civilians on camera is like saying: "You can torture our prisoners, you will not get anything for it."

        Do you know what it looks like? - And so: they went out to the people, called on "to stand up for the Russian Land", and then ... and then those who responded - they didn't give a shit right on the head. Openly, mockingly, with chuckles and jokes.

        There is nothing to add to these words.
      7. antivirus
        antivirus 22 September 2022 09: 43
        +2
        Switzerland's red crosses are understandable for their corruption. They did not climb into torture cues, where ours were kept.

        More interesting - will there be criminal cases against the leadership of the outskirts from Bastrykin and others? Let's reset them in honor of Istanbul2? Or will we take out the "doctor" from Argentina as Jews?
      8. Smart ass_
        Smart ass_ 22 September 2022 10: 44
        +2
        Well, here's the real value of all these Volyns and others.
        They cost less than half of a Russian soldier.
        And the ancient Ukrainians only lower themselves with such an exchange formula ..
      9. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 22 September 2022 11: 42
        0
        Indeed, why not met as it should.
        Did you bring relatives to the meeting? How then.
      10. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 22 September 2022 12: 06
        +3
        In short, the "conditions" of the exchange, once again, were dictated by the Kyiv Natsiks ...

        In fact, it would be useful for the Russians to find out who SPECIFICALLY, from the Russian side, MAKED THE DECISION to AGREE with the conditions put forward by the Kyiv Nazis? ..

        Not technically "led negotiations", but it was MAKING DECISIONS ...

        After all, who is for the Russians, a certain "Medvedchuk"?.. And from "what side" is he, a citizen of the former united Ukraine, albeit taken hostage by the Kyiv Nazis, and also, a Ukrainian oligarch, connected with the topic of Russian prisoners of war?.. Is he who is this for Russia? The newly appeared Comintern anti-fascist "Georgy Dimitrov", who took Soviet citizenship during the process in Munich? ..

        Or simply "his wife" of the President of Russia publicly, under the lenses, asked to "please for her spouse"? - to "remember" that EXACTLY SUCH "cases" are the "sphere of competence" of all sorts of "international red crosses" and other "human rights committees" at the UN? ... And send the "asking" there? .. So that they will force these cantors to do their DIRECT WORK?..

        And with the leaders of the Nazi military units, as well as mercenaries, for whom a bullet or a noose is crying, especially after the fact that FOR MONTHS IT WAS BROADCASTED about their FAIR and DESERVED fate in ALL RUSSIAN MEDIA? .. Which the inhabitants of Mariupol were literally ready to tear into pieces ?.. Like this, - "took and exchanged" for the Russian military?.. In addition, in quantity, there are practically "three (Nazis) - SYMBOLS OF THE REGIME, brazenly promoting for LENSES in the AWARENESS OF IMPUNITY, for one ordinary soldier - (Russian )?..

        No longer are the Russian media guys and the Russian authorities ... Then, when the Russian military and allies capture mercenaries and Nazis, modestly keep quiet (until the Kyiv Nazis once again dictate "exchange conditions" ...).

        Or just don't take these characters prisoner. So that later, with such incomprehensible and OFFICIALLY inexplicable clearly "decisions", higher Russian characters would not discredit the OFFICIALLY PROclaimed goals and objectives of the NWO ...
        1. Spasatel
          Spasatel 23 September 2022 18: 52
          0
          who SPECIFICALLY, from the Russian side, MAKED THE DECISION to AGREE with the conditions put forward by the Kyiv Nazis? ..

          Specifically?
          Kum!!!
      11. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 22 September 2022 12: 17
        +1
        Quote: KAV
        No decent words

        Now they are on the news that as a result of exchange negotiations, 55 people were returned to us, and not a word about how many freaks they are, who they are, in short, not a word at all. It can be seen themselves ashamed, and therefore silent. Not a word about Medvedchuk at all.
      12. 72jora72
        72jora72 22 September 2022 15: 20
        0
        Generally. 200 boars for 87 of our boys?
        The total number of ours, 200 people, is transferred in several batches.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 22 September 2022 07: 02
      +33
      This is a direct betrayal of the top. Who is war...
      1. Frost
        Frost 22 September 2022 07: 21
        -7
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is a direct betrayal of the top. Who is war...

        53 Azovians were burned in a colony in Yelenovka, not everything is so bad. Well, a message to the front of the soldiers that it is not necessary to take mercenaries prisoner. Otherwise, all FOUR foreign mercenaries captured in Mariupol were handed over (although there were hundreds of them, according to media reports, there was a Canadian general, other blacks, but they all disappeared somewhere).
        1. Gvardeetz77
          Gvardeetz77 22 September 2022 08: 25
          +5
          although there were hundreds of them, according to media reports, there is a Canadian general, other blacks, but they all disappeared somewhere

          Was there a boy? ©
        2. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 22 September 2022 08: 35
          -7
          Don't you think that on the other side they will take less prisoners or not take them at all?
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 22 September 2022 07: 40
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is a direct betrayal of the top. Who is war.

        Igorenya, have you signed up as a volunteer yet?
        1. novel66
          novel66 22 September 2022 07: 49
          0
          and what is it, the Kyrgyz are already working as recruiters here? lol hi hi
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 22 September 2022 08: 00
            +8
            Well, you know, in Russia now you can’t do without Gastars!
            [Center]
            1. novel66
              novel66 22 September 2022 08: 03
              +1
              consolidated company of the Kyrgyz in the Izyum direction lol
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 22 September 2022 08: 10
                +5
                Quote: novel xnumx
                consolidated company of the Kyrgyz in the Izyum direction

                Musicians also have a recruiting center in Kyrgyzstan wink
                1. novel66
                  novel66 22 September 2022 08: 26
                  +1
                  about! these are terrible fighters - they don’t even need to give machine guns!
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 22 September 2022 09: 05
                    +4
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    these are terrible fighters - they don’t even need to give machine guns!

                    Say the magic word "Thursday" and step aside wink
        2. Vimpelcom
          Vimpelcom 22 September 2022 08: 04
          -7
          And here he signed up as a volunteer? Answer to the point, don't blur the picture.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 22 September 2022 08: 09
            +4
            Quote: VimpelCom
            Answer to the point

            Do you have to answer? Are you a relative of the rescued prisoners?
            1. ABC-schutze
              ABC-schutze 22 September 2022 12: 13
              0
              Those whom these Nazis tortured and killed for YEARS do not have relatives? ..

              Did I.V. Stalin have a son who was in a German concentration camp? ..

              Well ... then so, let them OPENLY SAY in the media that we will "exchange" (in which case) Russian prisoners of war not only for prisoners of war of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but also for captured Nazi criminals and foreign mercenaries ...

              That's THEN, there will be no "perturbations" or "puzzling" questions and demands to "explain" ...
            2. Vimpelcom
              Vimpelcom 24 September 2022 07: 21
              -3
              Can you answer in person?
        3. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 22 September 2022 09: 04
          -1
          Serg65:
          Are you already writing from the military registration and enlistment office?
          You are our Patriot of patriots. You drown for power, as much as sparks fly
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 22 September 2022 09: 07
            +1
            Quote: Kuzyakin15
            You drown for power, as much as sparks fly

            And for whom to drown? For you, deserter, or what?
        4. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 September 2022 10: 33
          0
          Quote: Serg65
          Igorenya, have you signed up as a volunteer yet?

          Do not jump off the topic, Serenya. wink
          Or, according to the standards of the troll, do you need to knock the interlocutor off the topic and get personal? laughing Templates don't change?
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 22 September 2022 12: 38
            +2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Don't get off topic

            laughing Yes, I did not jump on it wink
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            by troll standards, you need to knock the interlocutor off the topic and go to the personality?

            belay By standards... lol be easier Igorek!
            It’s just that you so zealously jumped onto the armored car, wringing your hands, rolling your eyes, drooling splattering ... so I wondered, what kind of side are you with those comfrey boys, for whose deceived souls you have staged this performance now? Just wondering ... where are you, who wants to steal their homeland from them, and where are they, defending this homeland?!!!
      3. RGB
        RGB 22 September 2022 07: 59
        +18
        Here's how to go to war with such rulers? No words! Just yell! Creatures!
      4. Olga
        Olga 22 September 2022 09: 04
        -7
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        This is a direct betrayal of the top

        Well, again, the same song you love. Not tired?
        Yes. Traitors are everywhere. We see how they mimic "their own" and "those who worry about the country." We see enough of them here, in VO ... traitors from "ordinary people" ... traitors and instigators ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 September 2022 10: 38
          -3
          Quote: Olga
          We see enough of them here, in VO ... traitors from "ordinary people" ... traitors and instigators ..

          Why are you exposing yourself like this?
          1. Olga
            Olga 22 September 2022 12: 16
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Olga
            We see enough of them here, in VO ... traitors from "ordinary people" ... traitors and instigators ..

            Why are you exposing yourself like this?

            Babble at the level of a kindergarten, when at the age of 4, when the word "d ... k" was addressed to them, the children refused, humming: "it's you and who am I? it's you and who am I? ... it's you ..."
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 22 September 2022 12: 41
              +4
              Quote: Olga
              Babble at the kindergarten level

              Well, what are you, this adult uncle is working out his 30 pieces of silver!
      5. Smart ass_
        Smart ass_ 22 September 2022 10: 45
        +1
        What kind of betrayal is this?
        The leadership has shown that it values ​​its soldier more than any enemy general.
    3. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 07: 26
      0
      Even the prisoners have turned into a business.

      This is rather the result of the Kharkov "regrouping", the pilots and those captured were exchanged during the withdrawal.
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 22 September 2022 07: 30
        +15
        It is unlikely that this is due to the "Kharkov regrouping". You can't make an exchange that quickly. This has been prepared for a long time and it looks like it was started because of Medvedchuk
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 22
          +7
          Why wasn't Medvedchuk exchanged earlier? Time was the sea. Such a tough exchange of odious figures is similar to force majeure, a step forced by "Kharkov". Who here needs a reclaimed Medvedchuk, especially at such a price?
          1. Jcvai
            Jcvai 22 September 2022 09: 25
            -5
            This is more like forced measures: an ultimatum or something else that cannot be issued publicly. The third time to publicly plunge the people into the mud so strongly ... (the first time with conscripts in the NWO, the second with Tyra, the third now) - very good reasons are needed for this.
            Our supreme leader is never a stupid person and has done a lot for the country, so it’s unlikely that everything is as it seems at first glance. And it’s not about business or “family” ties, but about hidden restrictions: when you can’t publicly judge those who violated the order to send only contract soldiers, when you can’t ignore the requirements to return specific people from captivity ... you can only formalize it somehow externally to accept yours.
    4. Silver99
      Silver99 22 September 2022 08: 05
      +13
      I understand everything, we need to pull out our boys, but why, on the inveterate Natsiks of the symbols of resistance of Mariupol from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and this Medvedchuk traitor and balabol, who is guilty of the tragedy near Kyiv and Bucha, who led the leadership of Russia by the nose, he has no weight and no authority here or there
      1. Smart ass_
        Smart ass_ 22 September 2022 10: 56
        +1
        The Nazis simply wanted to show that Medvedchuk is a Russian intruder, and among Ukrainians there are no those who see Ukraine as part of Russia.
        And to show this, the Nazis put forward the condition of the exchange - Medvedchuk in addition to the Russian soldiers. Without this, they refused to conduct an exchange. That's all.
    5. lisikat2
      lisikat2 22 September 2022 09: 12
      -1
      If you remember istopmyu: war and profit are always Near.
      Once upon a time, the knights pawned plots of land to gather for war.
      Later, military property was turned into a commodity, and prisoners of war have long been a commodity.
    6. Vend
      Vend 22 September 2022 10: 11
      -5
      Until I hear this information from official sources, I will not say anything. So far it's fake for me.
    7. Bomb
      Bomb 22 September 2022 10: 26
      -6
      We haven't started in earnest yet.....how disgusting it is to realize the results of multi-moves and agreements.
    8. fif21
      fif21 22 September 2022 10: 32
      -1
      Quote: marchcat
      Even the prisoners have turned into a business.

      And you thought we were ruled by patriots? wassat
    9. opuonmed
      opuonmed 22 September 2022 11: 10
      0
      maybe Zelya was right, they evacuated them like that)
  2. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 22 September 2022 06: 59
    +8
    What will Medvedchuk's member be exchanged for? Disgrace...
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 07: 27
      0
      Medvedchuk is probably not the main figure there. I wonder how much / who was asked for it specifically?
      1. Puzoter
        Puzoter 22 September 2022 07: 53
        +2
        Judging by the disproportion of quantity and quality, as well as Medvedchuk's toxicity, there really could have been a very big bump, and maybe more than one, that's why they met without fanfare, so as not to be seen. And Medvedchuk is really the best lightning rod in this case.
        1. Boson
          Boson 22 September 2022 11: 42
          +3
          Perhaps a general who was taken near Kharkov. And then there is silence about him, both from our side and from Ukraine.
          1. guest
            guest 23 September 2022 01: 22
            0
            This is indeed very similar to the only logical explanation.
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 22 September 2022 11: 49
        0
        Yes, I was offended purely for the Russian language) They are here, on the site, on the salary, and the salary is Moscow. And work for this money? Nevermind? What is this title? Did the CIA teach language poorly, as they said in my youth?))
  3. salad
    salad 22 September 2022 07: 00
    +5
    That's right, they changed it, but our guys will return home!
    The only thing is that ours do not need to yell in front of the locomotive about executions, etc.
    1. Kamos8
      Kamos8 22 September 2022 07: 03
      +21
      And 150 of our guys will not return. Why are 215 dill replaced by 80 of ours? Or is it all our prisoners in dill captivity.
      1. salad
        salad 22 September 2022 08: 08
        +2
        I won’t ask anything, you need you and ask, we are alive and this is the main thing!
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 24
          -1
          Yeah, and the mercenaries are alive. I’m not against the exchange, but as I said above, this is a signal that you can fight and you won’t get anything for it, well, if you don’t accidentally fly in. Something, but the West has enough money to hire as many wild geese as you like.
        2. mongolian9999
          mongolian9999 22 September 2022 08: 43
          +7
          But now these mercenaries and Nazis will kill another two hundred people. What will you tell their families?
        3. vitvit123
          vitvit123 22 September 2022 08: 44
          -1
          Definitely, ours was pulled out and this is the main thing! And those who want to ask someone something, let them first go to war, if they are lucky they will be captured, and then they ask - they argue who and how many should be changed ..
          Bear, in my opinion - it's disgusting, eh
          The status of the Azov people - and to hell with it, the most important thing is to return ours
          1. Jcvai
            Jcvai 22 September 2022 09: 11
            +1
            You are absolutely right from the standpoint of our prisoners, their families and loved ones. Those. it is an unconditional benefit for specific people.
            And from a broad point of view, this is a defeat: Russia will surrender, fall apart into independent regions controlled by the Azovites, but for this they will return a couple more prisoners - this is how it looks in general, in a broad sense from the media positions "ready to suck, turn their backs, kneel and pull down your pants, but just to keep a tear from rolling down a child." This is for those involved (relatives of our captured ones) and trolls, but not for those who died during the capture of prisoners, from the Azov people themselves and "mercenaries", relatives and friends of the already dead and those who still die when (when, not if) Azov and "mercenaries" will return to the former with renewed vigor, as well as pull up fresh motivated personnel.
            I don’t presume to judge for myself, because it is quite likely that in the process of agreements of this exchange there are positions that I don’t know about and are unlikely to find out about, but which are extremely important and beneficial for the country.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 22 September 2022 10: 41
              -1
              Didn't even finish reading..
              IN MY OPINION, it's a big crap, sorry .. to explain why it makes no sense, because comment on exaggerated nonsense, funny.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 22 September 2022 10: 27
            -1
            Quote: vitvit123
            The status of the Azov people - and to hell with it, the most important thing is to return ours

            The standard approach of traitors and opportunists.
            I would like to see when you say this to the relatives of those killed in Mariupol. On the hands of the exchanged blood of hundreds of people.
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 22 September 2022 08: 28
        0
        Quote from Kamos8
        Why are 215 dill replaced by 80 of ours? Or is it all our prisoners in dill captivity.

        Maybe they really don't have more than ours. But at least it’s definitely our fighters, otherwise the dill used to grab the peacekeepers and put them up for exchange. Maybe now they checked and only the fighters were taken away.
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 22 September 2022 13: 19
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          Maybe they really don't have more than ours.

          Indeed, who does not believe that the Ukrainian air defense system has been smashed to smithereens, the Moskva rocket ship has sunk in a fire, the entire Ukrainian transport infrastructure has long been destroyed, and European officials are filming their walks around Kyiv in Hollywood...
          One, the most insignificant lie gives rise to huge mistrust...
          Now we have seen with our own eyes what a "severe" punishment the notorious Nazi thugs suffered...
          What can I say? Take no prisoners...
      3. aglet
        aglet 22 September 2022 08: 40
        -1
        "And 150 of our guys won't come back. Why are 215 dills being exchanged for 80 of ours?"
        150 one Medvedchuk pulled
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 22 September 2022 07: 04
      +21
      Correctly?!! Do you want to ask the residents of Mariupol? The relatives of the boys who died during the storming of Mariupol?
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 22 September 2022 07: 23
        +1
        It seems that the teachers who were taken hostage by the Ukronazis were also given away.
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 07: 30
        +2
        Why suddenly went to the exchange right now? Perhaps there was someone serious among the newly captured.
        1. Mikhail Sidorov
          Mikhail Sidorov 22 September 2022 07: 36
          +7
          Why suddenly went to the exchange right now? Perhaps there was someone serious among the newly captured.

          Perhaps Ukraine has agreed to complete the exchange right now in order to strike informationally and ideologically at our mobilization. hi
          1. Ivan Ivanov
            Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 32
            -3
            In this case, Ukraine played along with us, because. the exchange of odious figures at another time, with a stable position at the front, would definitely not have been understood in the Russian Federation.
      3. El Barto
        El Barto 22 September 2022 09: 21
        +4
        How is that? One day, and the performance of the GDP, mobilization - the news is positive, and they immediately release the kov, and they thrust the fecal oligarch at us.
        This is some kind of information sabotage. They can't guess.

        Okay, residents of Mariupol. And they didn’t think about those called up for mobilization? Well, that is, people leave their normal lives, families, go to fight for Russia, and instead of a solemn determination to win or give their lives for their homeland, they have doubts in their souls - we will fight and die, and then bam and upstairs something is unclear "decided "?
        Okay, so far they fought with double basses and private armies, without affecting society by and large. But since they asked the society for help, and even ask them to die for the Motherland, then be kind enough to listen to this very society. At least for questions like this.
    3. fif21
      fif21 22 September 2022 12: 09
      +8
      Quote: salat
      The only thing is that ours do not need to yell in front of the locomotive about executions, etc.

      Zelensky kept his word. And Putin once again showed who he is. hi
  4. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 22 September 2022 07: 00
    +7
    Ukrainians published a list of Azov and Marine Corps fighters who believed in them, in total - 215
    Led by their command + mercenaries
    The surname of Medvedchuk appears on their side ...
    I personally did not understand anything? I can only guess...
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 September 2022 07: 26
      +9
      And they said - this is only for the Ukrainians a godfather - it's like a brother, but for the Russians there seems to be no one ... No, we don't leave our own. And by the way - at least our competent authorities, I'm not talking about mere mortals, know where, in what country, in what status are the children of our decision-making centers? Doesn't the banal taking of them as hostages really take place? Then a lot of what is happening becomes clearer.
      1. Saboteur_Navy
        Saboteur_Navy 22 September 2022 07: 29
        +5
        You described everything correctly, only there their capital is most likely held hostage, mi-5 is apparently blackmailing
        As there? In any criminal case, the main thing is not to go out on yourself.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. Vlad 63
        Vlad 63 22 September 2022 08: 12
        +5
        These competent authorities are more likely to attract you to an article for such a question than they will be concerned about the children of those in power
  5. 41 REGION
    41 REGION 22 September 2022 07: 01
    -7
    But, guys, 87 lives have been saved, 87 boys are at home. Wives, children, mothers, fathers, who did not expect to see them alive, will at one moment become happy again.

    This is the most important thing in my opinion....
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 22 September 2022 07: 04
      +37
      But Medvedchuk is here from which side? Because of this, our soldiers died near Kyiv
      1. Mikhail Sidorov
        Mikhail Sidorov 22 September 2022 07: 15
        +31
        But Medvedchuk is here from which side? Because of this, our soldiers died near Kyiv

        Look deeper. Because of this eccentric with the letter m, the Russian Spring was disrupted in 2014. He lulled our authorities for 8 years, and the authorities were waiting for some adequate forces in Ukraine for 8 years. He misled our authorities regarding the meeting of our troops after February 24th. Oh ... just some kind of abomination.
        1. Alan81
          Alan81 22 September 2022 09: 50
          -2
          some people don’t leave their own ... here are the shameful
      2. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 22 September 2022 07: 23
        0
        Quote: Vladimir M
        But Medvedchuk is here from which side?

        In the morning I read in another thread that Medvedchuk changed our prisoners of war before his arrest, wrote one of those whom he changed at one time.
      3. blackcat
        blackcat 22 September 2022 07: 44
        -6
        Apparently Medvedchuk is Kuev's condition
        1. Quote Lavrov
          Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 08: 58
          -2
          1. So now Kyiv sets conditions for us?
          2. Moreover, the condition turns out to be something like this - we will not take the Azov people from you if you do not take Medvedchuk in exchange?
          1. Zefr
            Zefr 22 September 2022 09: 39
            +2
            This is what it looks like from my oven. We did not force Kyiv to make an exchange, but we were given conditions.
            And it's a shame
            Trying to be good for everyone leads to the fact that they simply wipe their feet on us. And Western weapons from the same series.
    2. Quote Lavrov
      Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 07: 13
      +23
      Well, if such logic is ok, but then answer one question - what does Medvedchuk have to do with it, and not a simple 19-year-old Russian soldier - Ivan from the outback? But what about the mother, sisters, the girlfriend of this Ivan, they are no longer so worthy of becoming happy .... why 87, and not 200? Do we value our boys less? Or their elderly parents...
      So it turns out that the argument you voiced does not fit the real motives.
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 22 September 2022 07: 22
        +12
        Why do Ukrainians meet their people under cameras, while we quietly hide ours? Why rock the boat - Russia? Is V.V. Putin does not understand that the European people will not leave him and his family alive. And the death of Gaddafi will seem like a berry to him.
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 22 September 2022 08: 01
          -2
          Quote: Vladimir M
          Why do Ukrainians meet their people under cameras, while we quietly hide ours?

          Because captivity, for many of us, is a shame, cowardice. Can you imagine what awaits at home for a guy who has returned from captivity, when others undermine themselves along with the enemy? And no one will care that he was thrown by the commanders, that he was taken in an unconscious state ... he was captured, and for others it will be a stigma on him ...
          That's why they do it right that they don't show it, both at the exchange and in hospitals.
          1. Quote Lavrov
            Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 09: 55
            -1
            You, on behalf of everyone, do not write such nonsense, please !!
            If a person treats a prisoner in this way, not knowing all the circumstances, then this is not a question for the one who returned from captivity, but for this moral insignificance
          2. Hermit
            Hermit 22 September 2022 09: 58
            +2
            Because captivity, for many of us, is a shame, cowardice.
            Let those who think so volunteer to at least go to the second line, survive an enemy attack, kill a person for the first time, come face to face with the enemy, then argue that shame has been captured. The problem is that our authorities do not say how many of our soldiers were captured. In Yelenovka, the Nazis were placed on the terms of Kyiv, they probably immediately decided to get rid of unnecessary militants. Immediately all the crosses and crescents came in large numbers with checks, one time, another time. But our prisoners were never allowed. Who? Where? How? No info. Why [email protected] like this? This is how a negative attitude towards prisoners is brought up.
            Ukrainians laid out conferences with our prisoners. It was clear that they were saying this under pressure, threats, and torture. They broke the guys both physically and psychologically. If they return, it will take a very long time to recover. Anyone whose relative, friend, matchmaker is fighting, let him try on those tortures that the Nazis use. You will understand - guys, you are not guilty of anything, not heroes, but worthy of respect.
        2. ramzay21
          ramzay21 22 September 2022 08: 30
          +5
          Why do Ukrainians meet their people under cameras, while we quietly hide ours?

          Because the main object of this exchange is the Ukrainian oligarch Medvedchuk. And how do you imagine that under the cameras with flowers, instead of our soldiers, they would meet this one?
          Or have you not yet understood that the Azov and foreigners were exchanged for him?
        3. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 22 September 2022 08: 48
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir M
          Why do Ukrainians meet their people under cameras, while we quietly hide ours?

          I really want to be wrong, but perhaps the state of our guys, to put it mildly, is not for television cameras.
      2. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 29
        +7
        That's right, but the question is not even just in Van, but that Medvedchuk is a citizen of another state. And this is not just some kind of good guy, but a person who actively participated in the politics of this state and the same Maidans on his conscience. For me, for example, it is a mystery why it was not he who went to the president, but Yanukovych in 2004. Did he know something that there would be a drain? He had enough influence then.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 22 September 2022 07: 27
      +8
      And the 88th who did not return is not the main thing? Or do not feel sorry for the Russians!. Maybe Medvedchuk is the main thing for you *
      1. 41 REGION
        41 REGION 22 September 2022 07: 36
        +5
        Quote: Gardamir
        And the 88th who did not return is not the main thing?

        For me, 89 and each next is the main thing, but I don’t get hung up on Medvedchuk and, just like you, I don’t participate in the exchange ......
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 22 September 2022 08: 06
          +1
          You are not participating in the exchange ......
          By the way, yes, we hit each other virtually in the face ...
          1. 41 REGION
            41 REGION 22 September 2022 08: 21
            +1
            Quote: Gardamir
            By the way, yes, we beat each other virtually faces.

            Truth is born in a dispute wink
  6. Nexcom
    Nexcom 22 September 2022 07: 01
    +41
    10 Mercenaries were also released. am Through the mediation of the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia.


    PS When I assumed that the death penalty would be commuted to the mercenaries for a term, followed by a pardon, they were ready to devour me here as if I personally offered to pardon them. Well, that's it - they were generally released.
    Again politicking and "good will" .... am
    I think that our guys should draw the appropriate conclusions and simply not take the mercenaries alive - they should answer for their crimes.
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 22 September 2022 07: 05
      +16
      Well, that's right, the small British don't leave their own, we don't leave "ours" either - Medvedchuk
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 22 September 2022 07: 11
      +4
      Quote: Nexcom
      Prince of Saudi Arabia.

      It seems to me that the prince does not even suspect about his participation in this exchange - what does he care about this?
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 22 September 2022 07: 13
        0
        Well, they write everywhere in the news - with the assistance of the Prince. I assume that the leadership did not want to quarrel with Salman - like what if he gets offended and stirs up a thread with oil against Russia. That's respected. IMHO.
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 32
          +1
          If so, then he has some interest in the exchange, otherwise what does he care about the exchange?
      2. 1939_1940
        1939_1940 22 September 2022 14: 30
        -3
        The prince personally flew for them .. His plane was in Rostov-on-Don yesterday all day,
    3. Pankrat25
      Pankrat25 22 September 2022 07: 38
      +10
      You are all naive. Don't want disappointment? There is nothing to take prisoner at all, especially since it is very easy to figure out such people by tattoos.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 22 September 2022 07: 43
        +9
        so they were calculated. promised all kinds of death penalties. and... and did nothing.
        1. Pankrat25
          Pankrat25 22 September 2022 07: 49
          -5
          You do not know the full picture of events. And by and large, as prisoners, they bring great harm to Russia in the information field, and so, they will again get to the front line and there will be a chance to carry out the sentence ...
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 22 September 2022 07: 51
            +3
            they will again get to the front line and there will be a chance to carry out the sentence ...

            it only remains to be hoped that they will not be taken prisoner for the second time, but will be disposed of.

            otherwise - yes, of course there is no complete information picture - they do not report everything.
          2. Chem1st
            Chem1st 22 September 2022 09: 38
            +1
            Damn, they will get there - they will now be transported all over Europe, they will now talk on all channels about the atrocities of Russians and mockery of them, the poor, in Russian captivity ... There, Taira, is already crying crocodile tears on camera .. .. There is no need to take them into captivity at all, and if they did, they would go quietly and announce, they say, when trying to escape.
        2. jetfors_84
          jetfors_84 22 September 2022 08: 19
          +4
          About the same thing that such people (with swastikas and other paraphernalia) must be immediately placed there, at the front, against the wall and not taken prisoner. Then they will either be exchanged, or even if they serve time and return, but in their head they will not become different.
    4. Alexei
      Alexei 22 September 2022 07: 53
      +1
      Quote: Nexcom
      PS When I assumed that the death penalty would be commuted to the mercenaries for a term, followed by a pardon, they were ready to devour me here as if I personally offered to pardon them.

      Here minus if you sound bad before it happened.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 22 September 2022 07: 55
        0
        I already understood this about the minus ... As if this would change the situation and the event from the fact that the minus would not happen.
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 22 September 2022 07: 58
          +4
          Two percent of people think, three percent think they think, and 95 percent of people would rather die than think.

          Bernard Show
    5. jovanni
      jovanni 22 September 2022 07: 54
      +6
      Quote: Nexcom
      Again politicking and "good will" ....

      Somehow this "good will" is often kind to the enemy and to one's own in different ways. What do those who are supposed to think with their heads think? Rhetorical question...
    6. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 31
      +4
      I remember this and did not agree, although I did not express my opinion. you were right hi
      Though I think we'd rather be wrong.
  7. Boris Sergeev
    Boris Sergeev 22 September 2022 07: 02
    +13
    The exchange is just under the informational noise in connection with the President's speech. Just like raising the retirement age for the 2018 World Cup. Such is the information "know-how".
  8. Dikson
    Dikson 22 September 2022 07: 02
    +21
    But these people of ours, who have been exchanged, will now fall under the new article of the Criminal Code, which was swiftly adopted the day before yesterday, right? Well, where about the surrender and damage to military property.? As I understand it, they are under investigation in the light of the new decrees .. Therefore, even without flowers, they were met with orchestras .. It’s our Mariupol friend Erdogan who will place the Ukrofascists in resorts .. - heal mental trauma with Turkish tomatoes and Israeli tangerines .. What an interesting time for us .. And mobilization - not mobilization, and responsibility - it seems not for the authorities, and words - so, shaking the air .. People's memory - like a fish from an aquarium .. 3 seconds - and they forgot ..
    1. faiver
      faiver 22 September 2022 07: 22
      +3
      If you don't know, the law is not retroactive...
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 22 September 2022 07: 27
        -1
        And what about retroactive power? Were they captured? Got it. What does the new article say about surrendering to the enemy? So, at the very least, they are under investigation now. Here people remember SMERSH dreamed of reviving .. - here you will have work ..
        1. faiver
          faiver 22 September 2022 07: 33
          +4
          if a person was captured before the introduction of new articles, then, accordingly, they are not applicable to him
        2. Yves762
          Yves762 22 September 2022 07: 34
          0
          They got before the adoption of the law. Therefore, it does not spread to them - so, the currents are the law.
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 22 September 2022 07: 44
            +2
            Thanks for the educational program .. otherwise I started to worry about the fighters - so what, we always knew how to bring under the article ..
        3. Ros 56
          Ros 56 22 September 2022 07: 42
          0
          It is written about voluntary surrender, so do not confuse green with round.
          1. RGB
            RGB 22 September 2022 08: 13
            +9
            Surrender is not voluntary?! Please explain. Everyone wants to live, so they surrender. Few people are ready to blow themselves up with a grenade, everyone has children, wives, whose parents I want to see more!
        4. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 34
          -2
          When were they captured? Before the law? Well, don’t escalate, so the newly adopted articles will begin to spread to them, I honestly don’t know which, from the moment of liberation and not from the moment of being captured, do you catch the difference?
      2. polar fox
        polar fox 22 September 2022 07: 29
        -3
        Quote: faiver
        If you don't know, the law is not retroactive.

        there are many reverse examples ... the main thing is how the "judge" will look ... otherwise one is wooden on top, yesterday he painted about surrender.
        1. Rustic
          Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 26
          +3
          the main thing is how the "judge" will look.
          But it's true, our judges can easily equate the wording of surrender, and being in captivity. And according to the second, they already quite fall under the article.
  9. Horus
    Horus 22 September 2022 07: 04
    +22
    It's phenomenal. It raises morale very much, I can’t imagine what it is like for those who drove them into this captivity.
  10. Sniper
    Sniper 22 September 2022 07: 05
    +22
    It is necessary to declare a full mobilization in Russia..for the release of the rest of the Ukrainian oligarchs!! We will not stand up for the price!
  11. white fall
    white fall 22 September 2022 07: 05
    +28
    For this reason, it is not necessary to take these Nazis prisoner
    1. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 22 September 2022 07: 10
      +12
      The most true and relevant comment, I think the guys on the front end have already understood this.
      1. polar fox
        polar fox 22 September 2022 07: 30
        +2
        Quote: Shark Lover
        , I think the guys on the front end already understood this.

        this is not brought to the guys on the front end ... they create an infovacuum with a specialist ...
        1. Rustic
          Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 30
          +2
          this is not brought to the guys on the front end ... they create an infovacuum with a specialist ...

          But the newly mobilized ones will be in the know just right. And you certainly won’t tell them “no one called you here.”
  12. Andrey Moskvin
    Andrey Moskvin 22 September 2022 07: 06
    -5
    It is necessary to be in time, while Russia "has not started anything seriously." Then no one will change.
  13. Andrea
    Andrea 22 September 2022 07: 08
    -9
    What is the value of Medvedchuk is a secret behind seven seals.
    As for the Azovites, these will not go anywhere, unless, of course, I hope, the criminal cases are not closed, although, they say, before the exchange, the prisoners must undergo legal cleaning. However, as they closed, they can be opened again!
    1. Yves762
      Yves762 22 September 2022 07: 39
      +3
      They won't get it. They will not spoil relations with countries. But those, even while remaining interned, will be quite able to spoil themselves with business: propaganda, organization, recruitment, contacts ... - there are many options, and everything will lead to unnecessary victims on our part.
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 42
        -2
        They may or may not be able to, Pavel, any work must be learned, especially organizational. I myself am engaged in small-scale trade, and those to whom I provide work, sometimes they give it to me, but they believe that everything happens by itself, and then jambs come out.
        Here is the Nazi one, are you really sure that it is capable of something other than horse racing? Lay the tiles, they can dig up the pipes to change the garden. I just know which of the Crimean Nazis went there to fight back in 2014, only one educated one killed me morally, a promising archaeologist. That one might have enough brains, if he's still alive.
        1. Yves762
          Yves762 22 September 2022 18: 16
          0
          Quote: Alexander Salenko
          Are you really sure it's capable of something other than racing?

          You are joking? what It doesn't matter though...
          The more stupid, the more stubborn (at least so).
          More importantly, they are trained, and able to coach others - that's enough.
          1. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 22: 01
            0
            I'm not kidding, I saw how they fled, I understand that this is not an argument, but nevertheless
            1. Yves762
              Yves762 22 September 2022 23: 34
              +1
              They stayed alive, avoided responsibility, their actions of contribution got enough so that the "cunning plan" was covered with a basin - is this an argument (in combination with the above)?
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 22 September 2022 08: 25
      +4
      Quote: Andrea
      What is the value of Medvedchuk is a secret behind seven seals.
      As for the Azov people, these will not go anywhere,

      Perhaps the GDP then wants to put Medvedchuk on the lookout for Ukraine, so he pulled it out.
      As for the "Azov". Do you remember how they went to surrender in full confidence that they would be sent to Turkey? Even their wives flew to them with the same. So, it was already discussed then. And now Erdogan has fussed as a "peacemaker" and all this has surfaced.
  14. Khibiny Plastun
    Khibiny Plastun 22 September 2022 07: 08
    +31
    Damn it, society would understand if it were 200 to 200 without Medvedchuk. And so 200 to 87 is how? The authorities allow such frills after the announcement of mobilization. Does Putin even understand what he is doing? It turns out that Medvedchuk is equivalent to 113 for him? At the front, the situation is already difficult, and here such a spit in the back of the peasants on the front.
    1. moscowp
      moscowp 22 September 2022 07: 17
      +9
      After mobilization, it is just possible. Like it, don't like it...you'll go to war anyway!
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 22 September 2022 07: 19
      +28
      It's not just spitting. This is the devaluation of all actions. The most disgusting thing - how many yells there were - yes, we will sue the mercenaries, but according to the law they are given the death penalty, so that it would be disrespectful to others, but no matter what country, blah blah blah, ....
      And what? And nothing - all the promises and threats flew into the whistle.
      1. Khibiny Plastun
        Khibiny Plastun 22 September 2022 07: 32
        +23
        Putin is simply ossified in his imaginary world, in which he is busy with his favorite political games, but what he does only contributes to rejection. society from power. He should think about the fact that his defense is guys with a gun, and all sorts of Peskovs will not lay bones at his doorstep, but instead of uniting society, they are doing everything to widen the gap between the government and the people.
        1. RGB
          RGB 22 September 2022 08: 20
          +3
          You wrote everything correctly! Completely and completely agree with you!
      2. jovanni
        jovanni 22 September 2022 08: 06
        +6
        Quote: Nexcom
        And what? And nothing - all the promises and threats flew into the whistle.

        And not only. Together with them, trust also flies there. What kind of social cohesion can we talk about?
        1. aglet
          aglet 22 September 2022 08: 52
          +1
          "What kind of social cohesion can we talk about?"
          Haven't you rallied with Rotenberg yet? Yes, how zhezh so, it's not tight)))! I wonder if his sons fall under mobilization? or are they sick with deadly, incurable diseases?
          1. Vlad 63
            Vlad 63 22 September 2022 08: 57
            0
            Here you croak and yet their sons will go to mobilization. Only not ordinary, but immediately in stripes. By birthright, so to speak. And then when it would seem that it could not be worse ....
          2. aglet
            aglet 22 September 2022 09: 28
            +1
            "But haven't you rallied with Rotenberg yet?"
            judging by the minus, I see rallied laughing
      3. aglet
        aglet 22 September 2022 08: 49
        +1
        "And what? And nothing - all the promises and threats flew into the whistle"
        another goodwill gesture. and far from the last, a lot more can be merged
    3. Vlad 63
      Vlad 63 22 September 2022 07: 33
      +16
      Why fear the authorities? Disruption of mobilization because of the rescued godfather? Not for that the thought accepted laws about toughening for deviations and so forth. They will drive out from under the stick who needs to be thrown into the kirza. And do not try to betray the oligarchy - article of the Criminal Code. And there is no feedback. He was taken prisoner, which means an article of the Criminal Code, you cannot prove that you are not a donkey. And then the prisoners are scattered as they want.
      1. Khibiny Plastun
        Khibiny Plastun 22 September 2022 08: 13
        +7
        Well, disregard for the authorities, the opinion of society and the army, for Nicholas || ended in shooting. For Putin, this too could end in disaster. His defense is the army, because the West and the oligarchy will not spare him.
        1. Vlad 63
          Vlad 63 22 September 2022 08: 28
          +3
          If, therefore, a modern Stalin appears in the country after Putin, then the worse the better.
        2. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 46
          +2
          The main thing is that this could end in disaster for the country, and Lenin-Stalin, who is capable of assembling a sovereign, strong state, is not visible.
          1. Vlad 63
            Vlad 63 22 September 2022 08: 53
            0
            Few people knew Lenin and Stalin in 1915. Yes, the possibility of a catastrophe for the country is frightening. But something I am more and more coming to the conclusion that this small victorious NWO with these at the head cannot be completed with victory. And it will definitely be a disaster for the country.
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    1. Quote Lavrov
      Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 07: 20
      +10
      My words certainly harm Russia

      No, dear colleague, it is not your words that harm Russia, but the decisions and actions/inaction of completely different people.
    2. RGB
      RGB 22 September 2022 08: 26
      +6
      I have 9 years of service to my homeland. Everything you wrote, I fully support! We've been betrayed! No more trust!
    3. aglet
      aglet 22 September 2022 08: 58
      -3
      ". The only thing that consoles is that the captivity of the oligarch did not allow to fight for real"
      wonder how? What does Russia have to do with the Ukrainian oligarch, who quarreled with the Ukrainian president, and was put in shackles for this in order to change him on a par with Russian soldiers? What is he, Stirlitz?
    4. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 09: 02
      -1
      It is logical to assume a force majeure exchange of those captured near Kharkov, Medvedchuk is a makeweight, no one here needs it.
      1. aglet
        aglet 22 September 2022 09: 41
        0
        "Medvedchuk is a makeweight, nobody needs him here"
        I wouldn't be so categorical. someone really needs it, the whole exchange is started because of him, moreover, on xoxlyatsky conditions
  16. ALARI
    ALARI 22 September 2022 07: 10
    +28
    And how the court puffed out the death penalty. It hasn't happened for a long time and here it is again.
  17. _palych_
    _palych_ 22 September 2022 07: 11
    +6
    It is necessary to change what the figures of the Natsiks inflated, they themselves are to blame, otherwise from every iron of their surname. Someone is indignant, so why were they taken prisoner when it was possible to immure everyone there.
    1. Vlad 63
      Vlad 63 22 September 2022 07: 58
      +5
      Yes, we need to be released. And is it necessary to release specifically those creatures from manure who, on camera, finished off our captured servicemen to the music in the cellars of Mariupol?
  18. Galleon
    Galleon 22 September 2022 07: 15
    +26
    So this Mr. Medvedchuk was exchanged instead of one of our guys? Is it not instead of the conscript whom the Ukrainians sentenced to death and then replaced with a life sentence?
    And Azov, Azov! ... It's like exchanging Hitler with Goering ...
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 22 September 2022 07: 33
      +2
      Not instead of one conscript, but instead of more than a hundred of our soldiers who continue to be held captive.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 22 September 2022 09: 46
        -2
        Quote: UAZ 452
        Not instead of one conscript, but instead of more than a hundred of our soldiers

        Yes, but they gave two for one. Some strange ratio, even without taking into account the personality of the exchanged. Don't find?
  19. mortido
    mortido 22 September 2022 07: 21
    +33
    And remember how beautifully Peskov sang to us in April:
    “As for the exchange, about which various figures in Kyiv spoke with such fervor, ardor of pleasure: Medvedchuk is not a citizen of Russia. It has nothing to do with the special military operation. He is a foreign politician. We don’t know at all whether he himself wants some kind of Russian participation in resolving this libelous situation against him. ”
    The result is a political f*ck performed by the Kremlin ...
    1. Quote Lavrov
      Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 07: 28
      +17
      Yesterday I also read explanations from Peskov why his son threatened on the phone that he would deal with the caller "at a different level", in response to the words that he had to appear at the military registration and enlistment office for mobilization and realized one thing - nothing changed yesterday. And there was a hope, albeit a meager one, that yesterday would change everything in the relationship between the people and the government.
      And now this exchange...
      And now I imagine people reading such news while their children, mothers, wives are sleeping .... and the agenda lying on the table in front of this person.
      And I want to ask myself a question about the future, about the fact that we will return, sooner or later, but not all, but then how will you look us in the eye ...
      1. Rustic
        Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 41
        +3
        I spoke a long time ago. The announcement of mobilization will change the very essence of the special operation. If earlier, volunteers and contractors could be told "no one called you here, they themselves came and agreed." Now it will be easy to hear from the mobilized "I disagree with you because of your gestures of goodwill." And that one does "it's easier for me to slap you than to die because of your idiotic order. It's better to let three judge than four carry."
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 49
        0
        With all the turbidity of Peskov, where does the infa about the absence of his son come from? Subpoenas began to hand only today.
        Ribbon. ru: "Peskov denied reports of his son's refusal to appear at the draft board"
        1. Quote Lavrov
          Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 08: 52
          +2
          The journalists called his son under the guise of employees of the military registration and enlistment office and recorded a conversation with his son. And in the evening, Sands himself made excuses. Well, how he justified himself - he didn’t give a damn about the fact that his son was threatening to resolve the issue with the “military registration and enlistment office employee” at a “different level”, and someone was on the agenda to fight ...
          And how exactly Sands "refuted" the refusal of his son - it is clear even from the text of the article itself, that something like me and my son correctly understand the current situation - awesomely refuted!
  20. Stas157
    Stas157 22 September 2022 07: 21
    +16
    Unequal exchange. They gave away the most inveterate ones. And even mercenaries sentenced to death. The question is, what was the point of putting on a performance with the court if the sentence was not carried out?
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 22 September 2022 07: 31
      0
      Well, in the light of referendums and "joining Russia" - we don't have the death penalty, do we? No. This means that, in any case, the sentences of the Republic would have to be declared invalid .. In general, whoever needs to be taken out even earlier, and now the rest of the non-humans have been sent to the resort ..
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 49
        +1
        Between the referendum and accession there is a distance, they would have had time to hang the sentences into execution.
      2. Quote Lavrov
        Quote Lavrov 22 September 2022 08: 53
        -3
        1. We have the death penalty in the Criminal Code. But there is a moratorium on its use.
        2. And even in your version, is it not considered to replace execution with a life sentence?
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 22 September 2022 07: 52
      +9
      Well, yes, the main Nazis who terrorized the population of Mariupol will now rest in Turkey ... such a normal denazification comes out
    3. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 50
      0
      The exchange seems to be a force majeure, like someone from the prisoners of the Kharkov failure.
    4. Konnick
      Konnick 22 September 2022 09: 05
      +1
      Unequal exchange. They gave away the most inveterate ones.

      Pulled, pulled with the court and the possibility of a death sentence. And now there is a referendum, and there is no one to judge.
  21. shurik-063
    shurik-063 22 September 2022 07: 22
    +13
    It's not at all clear! Why are we changing to the Azovites, and not to the prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine!? Do we have only Azov people in captivity? Why 200 by 87? Why are we changing mercenaries? And tomorrow they will take our prisoners, for whom will we change? All questions and no intelligible answer! The fact that our return home is good!
  22. t200404
    t200404 22 September 2022 07: 22
    +23
    Medvedchuk went for 100? For me, the government has lost touch with the people, because in recent months 5-20% understand its decisions
  23. Igor-68
    Igor-68 22 September 2022 07: 23
    -13
    The main thing is that we got our guys back. On others, they would not be returned to us, but we must save our own by any means.
    1. Gvardeetz77
      Gvardeetz77 22 September 2022 08: 40
      +7
      On others they would not be returned to us,

      The condition puts the strong side on the weak side, judging by the exchange, this side is not the east
  24. Two
    Two 22 September 2022 07: 23
    +11
    hi Everything as usual! Some fight and die, and others share the fruits of the war! Disgusting!
  25. Adagka
    Adagka 22 September 2022 07: 23
    +28
    Everything about the news is great. Especially Medvedchuk and Poddubny. The first is outright scum, which poured into our ears that we only have to start and will be greeted with flowers (thousands of the lives of our soldiers are in the hands of this ghoul) and the second, which for three rubles will justify what they order. But according to the zomboyaschik, we are told fables that the homeland is in danger, the Nazis are at the doorstep. The fact that now released Nazis will continue to kill our soldiers, who cares about such trifles.
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 51
      -1
      The Nazis are at the threshold - a fact, the trouble is that the government behaves ambiguously and with obvious delays.
    2. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 51
      -2
      You still read inattentively, I also really dislike such an exchange, as I spoke about above, but the news says about internment. Those. they must remain in Turkey until the end of the database and there are mechanisms to follow these freaks.
      1. Vlad 63
        Vlad 63 22 September 2022 09: 02
        +4
        Well, that is, what did these dung roosters ask for before captivity EXTRACTION happened?
        1. aglet
          aglet 22 September 2022 09: 45
          +3
          "EXTRACTION is what happened?"
          Zelensky also does not abandon his
        2. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 09: 56
          +2
          Alas, yes, that’s what happened, I don’t know why they slapped a minus, they just minus it along the way, but the comment was about the article, they were interned, I would like to see them in a coffin, but in theory, if they don’t throw them, they are in the database will not take part.
      2. 1939_1940
        1939_1940 22 September 2022 14: 56
        -3
        Only five commanders from Azov will remain in Turkey.. Yesterday, according to Ukrainian data, out of two hundred released officers, there were 124 officers.. We only have a lieutenant colonel, a major, and four junior officers..
  26. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 22 September 2022 07: 24
    -17
    Let those who were in captivity, as well as their relatives, say what they did wrong! Yes, there was no need for loud statements about executions and trials! For Medvedchuk I will say one thing, do not run ahead of the locomotive! Undoubtedly, he is not worth a million prisoners, but he is needed for something else!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 22 September 2022 07: 43
      +11
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Let those who were in captivity, as well as their relatives, say what they did wrong!

      Well then, we must take into account what the relatives and comrades of those who died at the hands of the Azov people and mercenaries will say.
      Yes, there was no need for loud statements about executions and trials!

      Then statements about demilitarization and denazification are also not necessary. And about mobilization, too. And about protecting sovereignty. Yesterday, a man on TV who looked like the commander-in-chief was talking about them so penetratingly.
      For Medvedchuk I will say one thing, do not run ahead of the locomotive!
      Yes, where to compete with a steam locomotive.
      1. Dmitry Potapov
        Dmitry Potapov 22 September 2022 07: 59
        -3
        The statements of the authorities are one thing, but the prisoners are quite another!
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 22 September 2022 08: 18
          +8
          Quote: Dmitry Potapov
          but the prisoners are completely different!

          From what hangover did Medvedchuk become a prisoner? A case has been opened against Gordon in dill, against Poroshenko. Are they also subject to exchange for the remains of the Azov people?
    2. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 56
      +1
      And what is it for? I respected him as a politician in my time, and as an ex-citizen of Ukraine, I followed his actions and the actions of his party, my friends were even members of it. He was not able to create just a powerful opposition, he and Muraev have a grater, although he is still a figure. I never saw him at the anti-Maidan, was it difficult to come or did he cover his ass? It was only later that I realized that he was a weakling, when he abandoned the 2004 presidential race, there was every chance. Nobody really knew who Yanukovych was, his last name was usually distorted that year to Yanukovych, and who Medvedchuk was was well known. And now 18 years have passed since then, a new generation has grown up, who needs it?
      Do you think he will be met with gingerbread in Kherson or in Luhansk?
  27. Karabin
    Karabin 22 September 2022 07: 24
    +30
    Well, gentlemen zaputintsy-putriots? How do you spit? They shouted the loudest about the Mariupol victory, the surrender of the Azov people and their further punishment. About mercenaries who are on safari in Russians will definitely not be forgiven. About Medvedchuk, who the fuck Putin does not need. Or is it not a spit, but God's dew, Cunning Plan and Multi-MovePoint!?
    1. RGB
      RGB 22 September 2022 08: 37
      +10
      This SVO is starting to look like some kind of farce! It feels like the Russians are being merged in the war with the Russians, and someone is watching and giggling from above!
    2. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 53
      -1
      Medvedchuk is clearly not the main one here, the figure won back, went tail to the prisoners from the "regrouping"
      1. aglet
        aglet 22 September 2022 09: 48
        -1
        "went tail to the prisoners from the" regrouping ""
        prisoners from the regrouping still did not have time to count. it was they who went after him
  28. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 22 September 2022 07: 25
    +13
    The military commissar writes that in this situation, "do not care about image losses."
    That is, in other words, a drop in the level of trust in the words of the country's leadership among its own citizens for him, the leadership, is an empty phrase? Isn't that what the West wants?
    I consider an exchange in this format a betrayal. Mercenaries sentenced to death should already have been shot. In the current situation, I will be against joining the Russian Federation LPR / DPR with their current leadership. Which, it turns out, in this particular case, played on the side of the enemy: the verdict of the court, as it turned out, is not a hindrance to such an "exchange". That is, the one who was engaged in the exchange wanted to spit on the law. In our country, there are few representatives of the 5th column, do we need more?!
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 22 September 2022 08: 22
      +8
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      In the current situation, I will be against joining the Russian Federation LPR / DPR with their current leadership.

      And here the entry of the LNR / DNR. Their leadership is appointed and controlled by Moscow. The decision to exchange mercenaries was not made in Donetsk.
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 22 September 2022 08: 29
        -3
        Their leadership is appointed and controlled by Moscow. The decision to exchange mercenaries was not made in Donetsk.

        It doesn't matter if it's controlled or not. At the moment, I see in this decision a disregard for the verdict of the court. The mercenaries were sentenced to death and were under the jurisdiction of the LDNR. Consequently, the decision could be made only by the leaders of the republics, which are not yet part of the Russian Federation. People who violate the laws of their country, believe that they are above the decision of the judiciary, and are confident in their impunity for this, in my opinion, we do not need.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 22 September 2022 08: 56
          +5
          Consequently, the decision could be made only by the leaders of the republics, which are not yet part of the Russian Federation.
          I beg of you! Without the knowledge, consent and direct instructions of the Kremlin, not a single political decision is made there. Are you expecting independent decisions and compliance with written laws from a puppet? And on the basis of this, do not support joining the Russian Federation?
          1. Dilettante grandfather
            Dilettante grandfather 22 September 2022 09: 41
            -4
            I beg of you! Without the knowledge, consent and direct instructions of the Kremlin, not a single political decision is made there.
            - Do you have documents confirming this? Or is it your feelings?
            And on the basis of this, do not support joining the Russian Federation?
            Only after a complete change of leadership of the republics. Those who break the laws have no right to lead.
            This is my opinion and nothing will change it.
  29. Kuziming
    Kuziming 22 September 2022 07: 26
    +10
    Well, Nicholas II becomes an example of a reasonable ruler for me.
  30. samarin1969
    samarin1969 22 September 2022 07: 26
    +18
    Here is such a game of "giveaway" with partners... The death, suffering and destruction of Mariupol have lost their meaning. On the day of mobilization, trample on patriotism so much! ... There is something ... "deep" in this. am

    ps Unfortunately, quite a few, seemingly adequate, media people have joined the “Darkest One’s lawyers”.
    1. Petr_Koldunov
      Petr_Koldunov 22 September 2022 07: 45
      +20
      Quote: samarin1969
      Unfortunately, quite a few, seemingly adequate, media people have joined the “Darkest One’s lawyers”.

      I was especially touched by Solovyov - who a few months ago was simply tearing himself up, growling menacingly about the exchange and pardon - Azov and mercenaries are not and should not be concerned! That these are criminals who absolutely will not be changed in any case. And that this is correct, and there can be no other narrative!
      And voila! Today, in Full Contact, he not only justifies this, but even condemns those who cannot justify this shame in any way.
      1. Marine engineer
        Marine engineer 22 September 2022 08: 25
        +11
        Soloviev Italian he is like that - he is such a multi-vector))) he is from the public who change shoes in a jump is not the first time.
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      3. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 54
        0
        Most likely, someone serious was taken prisoner near Kharkov, maybe. not one, hence the exchange is likely to look like a shame.
        1. aglet
          aglet 22 September 2022 09: 54
          +1
          "someone serious was taken prisoner near Kharkov"
          and what is serious to do near Kharkov? serious people are sitting in Moscow
      4. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 08: 58
        +1
        Well, frankly speaking, who is Solovyov? He is a media person and can only make serious decisions in his industry. For example, expel Kovtun, that's what he is able to do. Remind you what he said about Crimea in 2013?
      5. igork735
        igork735 22 September 2022 09: 12
        0
        Does this surprise you? You simply did not hear Solovyov when he was the presenter on the Silver Rain radio.
  31. Netomsky
    Netomsky 22 September 2022 07: 30
    +22
    It turns out that the Ukrainians did not lie when they said that Azov was being evacuated? And it turns out that the Russian authorities lied, saying that they would not exchange the Azov people? And how can one trust the Russian authorities after that? It's just a shame! Stalin, even for the sake of his son, did not give Paulus to the Germans. That was the real leader of the country, not confusing the personal with the state. And Putin is ready for any betrayal for the sake of his godfather. It's just a spit in the face of the Russians!
    1. Marine engineer
      Marine engineer 22 September 2022 07: 48
      +28
      “It turns out that the Ukrainians weren’t lying when they said they were evacuating Azov?”
      It turns out that in Kyiv the president is not a clown, but a man, but in Moscow .....
      1. Netomsky
        Netomsky 22 September 2022 07: 56
        +2
        Yes, it does. And Putin, for the sake of his godfather, is ready to betray his people, to whom he actually swore allegiance when taking the oath for the presidency.
        1. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 56
          -4
          What's the deal here? Probably not soldiers were captured near Kharkov.
      2. Shark Lover
        Shark Lover 22 September 2022 08: 04
        +1
        I hope people splash out their emotions from the sofa. At the front they don’t even know about it, they don’t have time for it, if it comes, then the guys will make an unambiguous decision, not to take prisoner. I'm wondering, did anyone get a summons from here-spillers? What is the reaction?
        1. aglet
          aglet 22 September 2022 09: 13
          +1
          "On the front end they don't even know about it, there's no time for that"
          on the front, where is it? there are no trenches for a long time, after the regrouping, it’s not clear where the Russian armed forces are, nm DPR is in Donetsk, everywhere there is the Internet and mobile communications, so everyone knows everything. and there are no fights day and night, so they are quite up to it
          1. Shark Lover
            Shark Lover 22 September 2022 09: 21
            0
            Maybe you are right. It’s just that everything is somehow disgusting, slippery and stinks. It’s disgusting on the couch, but there, in Ukraine in general, if it comes, then I don’t know how it is perceived.
        2. polar fox
          polar fox 22 September 2022 17: 55
          -1
          Quote: Shark Lover
          I'm wondering, did anyone get a summons from here-spillers? What is the reaction?

          I’m already a bit old, but 24 guys have already prepared from the village at 40 ... many have 3-4 children ... almost everyone up to 40 years old has been raked out ...
      3. RGB
        RGB 22 September 2022 08: 42
        +1
        It turns out so! (something just disappointments lately
  32. Karabin
    Karabin 22 September 2022 07: 30
    +6
    According to the latest information, the Azov fighters* will be sent on one of the ships to Turkey, where they are said to remain "interned until the end of hostilities."

    Well, well fool
  33. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 22 September 2022 07: 31
    -19
    In general, for the time being, all the information from the Ukrainian side is coming ... so I would wait for a while to blaze with "righteous anger of indignation."
  34. Alexander Kuksin
    Alexander Kuksin 22 September 2022 07: 32
    -13
    You are brave here, sitting on a warm sofa and commenting! At least one would think how it is to be a prisoner of the bastards. There is nowhere to sit in the cells, in the stuffy air... If it is possible to exchange ours, then we should change without hesitation. And the exchanged Ukrainians will get theirs. Or they will shoot their own, and if they are taken prisoner again, then they will bury them here. Everyone gave a subscription not to fight. There are lists. And the ringleaders of Azov have no reason at all to fall for Nenko. They certainly will not be forgiven for appearances on TV.
    1. tatra
      tatra 22 September 2022 07: 49
      +19
      What primitive, predictable "cheers-patriots" and paid trolls. When the authorities said that the "Azovites" would be executed and would not be exchanged, you unanimously agreed with the authorities. When the authorities decided not to execute them, but to exchange them, you again agree with the authorities in unison.
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    3. aglet
      aglet 22 September 2022 09: 17
      -1
      "And the ringleaders of Azov have no reason at all to fall for Nenko. They certainly will not be forgiven for their appearances on TV."
      they will be met there like heroes, with flowers, an orchestra and TV
  35. Eva Star
    Eva Star 22 September 2022 07: 35
    -4
    How about this option. The authorities wanted to get their oligarch Medevedchuk. But the people did not allow to exchange him alone for 200 Azov. And therefore the authorities deliberately did not create defense lines on Ballakley, the area was not even mined. In short, the Bendera went on the attack and received enough prisoners to make an exchange. It sounds terrible, but there is absolutely no trust in the headquarters and politicians. The exchange of the Nazis who slaughtered more than one city for the oligarch Medevedchuk is definitely a betrayal. This is a disgrace. You can wash away this shame only by starting a real war, destroying electricity, gas, communications, otherwise there is no point in fighting ordinary soldiers, the authorities will betray and negotiate with the enemy behind your back.
    1. Kim
      Kim 22 September 2022 07: 47
      -4
      literally a week ago they hyped "Kharkov is a betrayal of the Kremlin !!! aah !!!"
      and suddenly shut up en masse
      and then look, there's a new reason
      1. Eva Star
        Eva Star 22 September 2022 08: 27
        +4
        And who gave this reason? The authorities frankly lie to the opinion of the people and the army, commit treason by exchanging outright Nazis for oligarchs. Well, let's close our eyes, think the Nazis cut out a huge city.
        1. Kim
          Kim 22 September 2022 08: 38
          +1
          and does what he puts right
          "norott" is usually dumber than the dumbest of this "norott" in general, although one by one is much smarter
          "listening" - perhaps - will be operatives of the General Staff, and that's not a fact
          ---------------
          but in general we have the Security Council, which deals with these things
          --------------
          shame that they didn't listen to you? so now live with it
          1. Karabin
            Karabin 22 September 2022 09: 16
            0
            and does what he puts right
            If the government puts on, as you put it on NOROTT, then sooner or later this government will go down the drain. Mobilization will not go to the General Staff or the Security Council.
            1. Kim
              Kim 22 September 2022 10: 30
              +3
              Yes Yes
              I have been on the forums for a long time, these words are not the first hundred times I hear
              usually from those who get up off the couch - already for the feat
              ---------------
              and who is not "norott", then he sits a little on the forums
              he just takes it and goes to Transnistria, Serbia, Donbass
              and does
        2. yuriy55
          yuriy55 22 September 2022 14: 57
          0
          Quote from Eva Star
          Power frankly lays down on the opinion of the people and the army, commits a betrayal by exchanging frank Nazis for oligarchs

          No.
          Does not say anything?
          Quote from kim
          and does what he puts right

          And so?
    2. faiver
      faiver 22 September 2022 08: 08
      -3
      what are you smoking? Get involved with this business
    3. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 22 September 2022 08: 58
      +1
      The authorities wanted to get their oligarch Medevedchuk. But the people did not allow to exchange him alone for 200 Azov. And therefore the authorities deliberately did not create defense lines on Ballakley, the area was not even mined.
      More like conspiracy theories. Rather, a force majeure exchange, captured near Kharkov.
    4. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 09: 03
      -1
      It doesn’t sound real, sorry, but the Bendera people are in Bendery, and this is Transnistria. Do not compose too much, I also frankly do not like this exchange and what does Medvedchuk have to do with it, but it does not seem reasonable to me to think that we allowed a tactical defeat only because of him. Regarding his being in prison, they probably made a sanatorium there already, it’s possible to agree.
      1. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 22 September 2022 10: 44
        0
        By the way, a joke - raguli (of which there are a majority in this topic, at least those who have more than 2 pluses) for some reason are distorted if they are called Benderites. And this is such a peculiar banter, I don’t even know where it came from ... wink
        1. Alexander Salenko
          Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 10: 50
          0
          And I think that because of a banal mistake, it’s just the raguli over the Bendera people who are neighing, but from the dill they are definitely twisted. And evidence is already considered an insult on their part, although there is nothing offensive in the word Svidomo.
  36. Cartalon
    Cartalon 22 September 2022 07: 36
    +18
    Well, the first goal has been fulfilled, the godfather was rescued, now the second goal is to return his property or compensate from the budget of the Russian Federation, as a victim of the Nazi regime.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 22 September 2022 09: 17
      +2
      or compensated from the budget of the Russian Federation,
      Combat will pay. With allowances. wink
  37. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 22 September 2022 07: 38
    +24
    The exchange of citizens of Ukraine for citizens of Ukraine... nothing new. And this was done not at all for the release of our 87 guys. They were just lucky - they were attached so that the ransom of the Ukrainian Medvedchuk in exchange for 200 fascist leaders and terrorist mercenaries looked somehow more or less decent.

    And the most shameful thing is that the authorities were tearing their throats and at all levels threateningly stated that Azov and mercenaries are NOT an exchange fund, and they will not be changed UNDER ANY circumstances.
  38. 2112vda
    2112vda 22 September 2022 07: 41
    -14
    When the "long game" began, and so the "international politician" is brazenly Saxons and the whole of German-Roman Europe, emotions and squeals-squeaks about the fact that "everything was leaked" are not smart and not appropriate. It is important to throw at least a small "worm of doubt" into the territory of the enemy. There is a wise, ancient Roman proverb: "The Romans win by sitting still." Here, too, you need to act like a "wise serpent" without emotions. The front of the war is not on the map or some terrain, but in the minds. He gave rise to doubts in the minds of the enemy that they were right, he had already won by half. Stupid executions of prisoners of war breed only hatred. So take it easy. For those who don’t have nerves, go knock your head against a tree, it might feel better.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 22 September 2022 07: 52
      +15
      Are you the one who still has everything according to plan? The one who considers it normal that 80% of the army sits on the territory of the Russian Federation, and civilian men will go to fight? Will you personally supply the first 300 with everything you need? Or will they have enough Kalash and a steel helmet from the Second World War? Do you even realize how our VPR got into playing its dark, long, strategic games, and not devoting your people to their plans? At the moment, everything looks like the Kremlin is in disarray. And in the West they look at us with mockery, and frankly spit in the face. Exchange those sentenced to death? Why was this clowning necessary? In four months, I completely changed my attitude towards the management, and I fundamentally disagree with the correctness of their behavior!
      1. Kim
        Kim 22 September 2022 08: 43
        -6
        woah woah woah...
        how many words...
        "Abram, I finally found the time and place, I'm writing in a trench, on the boot of a dead comrade, under fire"
        ------------------
        I’ll say one thing - the topic of the exchange began to be dispersed by the cips
        if you are Russian, then think about who benefits from it
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 22 September 2022 08: 53
          +5
          I am not writing now, but when I served in the army on conscription, I wrote while sitting in a broken house in the village of Tando. So I gave my debt to the Motherland in due time. And now the question is, why and for what should civilian men go to fight if the draft army sits in the barracks? Tell me my motivation, maybe I'll listen until I see it. The guys won back with blood, including two of my comrades, were surrendered without a fight, who killed civilians, including children sentenced to death, the Nazis, we released them to freedom ... we just released them. No need to talk nonsense about internees, etc.
          1. Kim
            Kim 22 September 2022 10: 26
            0
            draft army? Are you seriously ? what will happen to the conscripts, the first days showed very well, when some, currying themselves, sent boys
            most of the prisoners, EMNIP, are just those very suckers of the first days
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 22 September 2022 10: 34
              -2
              So then explain why the country keeps the army? Once again, I pay taxes on its content. And once again I repeat, at 99 I was 19 years old, and served as a conscript, and managed to command a platoon when the starley was wounded. So how did I differ at the age of 19 from the guys who are now serving in the draft? Only the fact that the army was not milk-suckers, with which the fathers commanders wipe their snot?
              1. Kim
                Kim 22 September 2022 10: 37
                -1
                the fact that now the country can afford contract soldiers
                and the draft army against ukrov is just meat
                actually, and the results of 6 thousand against 60 are from the same series, because they are already raking them clean
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 22 September 2022 10: 59
                  -1
                  So contract? Why then mobilization? And against whom is the draft army not meat? Against the Lumumba natives? Simple questions that you don't have an answer for. The country is not in a state of war, people are having fun, arranging grandiose holidays with millions of fireworks and Ferris wheels, conducting the great exercises Vostok-22, winning the greatest victories in biathlon, most of the army is sitting in their places, and we have a partial mobilization of civilians. Do you understand that this is stupid?
                  1. Kim
                    Kim 22 September 2022 11: 14
                    +1
                    and there were no more contractors
                    we are practically at war with NATO
                    ---------------
                    yes, the realization that it's time to take it seriously is missing enmass
                    Well, maybe mobilization will make it clear
                    --------------
                    Let me remind you that "biathlon" is also a way of selling weapons, and besides b. Ukraine, we still have a couple of meters of the border - Asia, the East, the Arctic ...
                    Leave this couple of meters without protection, on some border guards? repeat Kharkiv?
                    1. igorka357
                      igorka357 22 September 2022 12: 43
                      -1
                      Let's be frank, NATO didn't even stand close there, they supply equipment, yes, they teach, yes .. but NATO is not at war with us. Who will attack our territory, we have a doctrine spelled out for the immediate use of nuclear weapons .. biathlon is a way of selling? What? How many years it has been going on, the participants are the same, the winner is only one.
                      About the festivities of Moscow and millions of salutes, when there are not enough medical pharmacies in the troops? About unnecessary exercises, when there is not enough drugs and equipment in Ukraine? Well, please answer. We only have a million 150 thousand military personnel, how many are fighting against Ukrainians, 200-300 thousand?
                      1. Kim
                        Kim 23 September 2022 03: 58
                        +1
                        I will surprise you, but the money was spent on fireworks in the spring
                        already spent, you know?
                        ---------------
                        biathlon - tanks, probably? there are exhibitions, this is understandable - but to feel with your hands, to see with your eyes how it all drives and shoots - will it really not give bonuses to sellers? But to win, you need to train :)
                        but this, the EU, but, IMHO
                        --------------
                        this is a war with NATO
                        let it be a proxy war, Ukraine is still just a fattened and naughty dog
                        the dog must be shot, of course, but the main thing is a showdown with the owner
                        -------------
                        remind us how much the total length of the state border is, and how much is the length of the specific Ukrainian section
                        EMNIP, on 22.06.41/20/4 we had XNUMX+ thousand tanks, and on the western border there were about XNUMX thousand of them
                        it's a hint, yes
                        --------------
                        a million is an army? and how many are there who know how to fight? not cannon fodder for the first six months (and the year doesn’t add much), but really?
                        --------------
                        ZY, I'm not even a "jacket", maybe I don't understand something. But panic is the surest way to lose. At first, the mental health of the person himself, and then further.
        2. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 22 September 2022 09: 33
          +2
          kim:
          And you're a loyal GDP. We hope you write from the trench after the attack? If so, then Eagle of course!
          1. Kim
            Kim 22 September 2022 10: 27
            -1
            and you proudly spit in the face of the Gestapo in the ukrozatenki "I will not exchange!" ?
            well then, of course, respect
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 22 September 2022 11: 06
            -2
            Kuzyakin, yes, it’s not about loyalty, I’m also loyal to Russia and its president, I always voted for him, and always supported him, and now I don’t know exactly his plans. But at the moment I would like to ask very unpleasant questions to him personally. Purely masculine .. humanly. There is very little logic in the steps of our VPR now, they announced mobilization, and then a spit in the face with the exchange of ardent criminals sentenced to death ..
        3. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 22 September 2022 09: 34
          -4
          kim:
          And you're a loyal GDP. We hope you write from the trench after the attack? If so, then Eagle of course!
      2. RGB
        RGB 22 September 2022 08: 51
        +1
        You know, you are not the only one who changed your attitude towards our VPR. Many began to doubt.
    2. Rustic
      Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 53
      0
      Stupid executions of prisoners of war breed only hatred. So take it easy.
      And if someone is calm, and calmly argues from the point of view of logic? In order to shoot a prisoner of war, this prisoner of war must first be taken prisoner. And capturing is voluntary. I want to take, but I don’t want, and I don’t need to. Then the problem of shooting prisoners of war is removed by itself, due to the absence of the latter.
    3. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 22 September 2022 09: 10
      0
      We started sensibly and I welcome a different opinion, if it does not coincide with mine, but about stupidly shooting, what is stupid to execute for crimes? Shoot hard. my interlocutor, this is how our prisoners were shot at the beginning of the NWO and what was posted on the net. And here the execution in court and stupidly shoot you said so about the Nazis, mercenaries, or both? Who will be embittered, the Nazis? So they already have enough malice, mercenaries? So they will stop by less, knowing that they are killing here. The fact that the Nazis and mercenaries will not surrender, well, did the SS men not surrender helped them a lot?
      We have a city that gave its name to the peninsula, Stary Krym is called. In 1944, partisans liberated it, but the Germans, ordinary soldiers of the Wehrmacht, who were retreating from Kerch, knocked them out. They killed more than half a thousand people, did not drive them to the square, but simply burst into houses, shooting at windows. The Separate Primorsky Army, which pressed on their heels, simply did not take prisoners after what they saw, and our fighters did not fear any consequences. The Romanians could have surrendered, but the Germans simply had no chance until Sevastopol.
  39. dimbasic
    dimbasic 22 September 2022 07: 42
    +1
    the main thing is that overly zealous bureaucrats do not start beckoning the guys under the article on voluntary surrender. they are heroes no matter what
  40. marc75
    marc75 22 September 2022 07: 43
    +16
    Azov with the call sign "Chemist" at home, this is the one who tortured the prisoners and took pictures with them, and also became famous for death threats against the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, and his family. ......, this is a huge bottom ..... no words
  41. RGB
    RGB 22 September 2022 07: 43
    -1
    Something seems to me that after this exchange, Ukrainians will no longer be taken prisoner. Apparently they will immediately merge into the scrap! As I understand it, everything was started for the sake of the oligarch and the godfather of Medvedchuk, and our fighters, as an appendage, went for the picture. There is no more anger at our rulers!
  42. igorka357
    igorka357 22 September 2022 07: 45
    +17
    Shame, shame on the leadership of my country.
    1. Ksanatos
      Ksanatos 22 September 2022 08: 04
      -19
      You are the disgrace. Vary here like the last woman. If it's scary, hide in a corner and don't make a fuss.
      1. 2112vda
        2112vda 22 September 2022 11: 14
        +2
        Wow! It will not be surprising if the nickname igorka357 is actually from the territory of 404. Now the main thing for the great Ukrainians is to disperse the wave, so they gave a reason.
      2. Hanurik
        Hanurik 26 September 2022 09: 20
        0
        Hello, "creature", answer, was it worth the exchange of new killed prisoners by your brother in mind under the call sign Frost? You won't answer because you're dumb as a cork.
    2. Kim
      Kim 22 September 2022 08: 40
      -2
      imagine it's you in the basement (almost wrote "Gestapo")
      although ... what's the difference?
      what, differently the situation began to look? from that
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 22 September 2022 08: 57
        -1
        You know perfectly well what to represent a person who has not changed a private for a general. Now we need such a person, tough and without principle ..
        1. Kim
          Kim 22 September 2022 10: 28
          -4
          yes
          and cannibalism with him, and 27 million only officially recognized ...
          want this?
          1. Hanurik
            Hanurik 26 September 2022 09: 22
            0
            A liberal is always a fascist and a Russophobe. People like you are enemies of the people, even more dangerous and cruel than Khokhlofashists, because you are hiding under the mask of patriots. But you are not patriots, but scum.
            1. Kim
              Kim 26 September 2022 11: 22
              -1
              as soon as it comes to the mass cannibalism of Russian people with the temporary detention center so beloved by non-Russian internationalists, the mask of politeness immediately flies from the muzzle of the red-skinned internationalist ...
              1. Hanurik
                Hanurik 26 September 2022 12: 00
                0
                Polite by default to everyone, you have revealed your essence enough that politeness is not applicable to you. Excuse me, I'm not the government of the Russian Federation with their treacherous exchanges and whistling in front of respected partners.
                1. Kim
                  Kim 27 September 2022 03: 28
                  -2
                  does it somehow justify cannibalism under Stalin?
                  you run this topic like hell incense
                  stings, I understand
  43. Kim
    Kim 22 September 2022 07: 45
    +1
    ...wouldn't like to comment, to be honest.
    It's one thing when your son was killed there, and quite another when your son is in captivity there. Practically diametrical positions.
  44. Adagka
    Adagka 22 September 2022 07: 46
    +10
    Quote: Alexander Kuksin
    You are brave here, sitting on a warm sofa and commenting! At least one would think how it is to be a prisoner of the bastards. There is nowhere to sit in the cells, in the stuffy air... If it is possible to exchange ours, then we should change without hesitation. And the exchanged Ukrainians will get theirs. Or they will shoot their own, and if they are taken prisoner again, then they will bury them here. Everyone gave a subscription not to fight. There are lists. And the ringleaders of Azov have no reason at all to fall for Nenko. They certainly will not be forgiven for appearances on TV.

    Urapatriot, why not in a trench? Don't fit your age? Nothing in the people's militia and pensioners are fighting. In the Second World War, the communists were the first to go to the front, now there are no queues from the members of the unit .....
    1. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 22 September 2022 08: 09
      -5
      Are you writing from a trench? No, probably from the NP brigade)
  45. Ludmila Myshkina
    Ludmila Myshkina 22 September 2022 07: 47
    +9
    nothing. today they will tell - you do not understand anything. this is military policy. so besides that, the leaders who went to the tribunal were exchanged for an oligarch. who robbed the country with everyone .. and was involved in the coup to everything that happens. those who died will not understand. today tambourines will sound from all the irons of Ukraine. Yes, they have been playing since night. on this side everything comes too late
  46. Uprun
    Uprun 22 September 2022 07: 47
    +2
    Why is someone dictating certain conditions to us? How long?
  47. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 22 September 2022 07: 47
    +2
    Quote: Ros 56
    It is written about voluntary surrender, so do not confuse green with round.

    I would like a definition - "a voluntary task in captivity." The cartridges ran out, but the knife remained, the brick - is this a voluntary surrender?
    1. fiberboard
      fiberboard 22 September 2022 08: 14
      +1
      What knife, what brick? You will just be given a queue in the stomach and that's it. They no longer fight with magazine rifles for five rounds.
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 22 September 2022 08: 17
        +2
        The question was, what is "voluntary surrender", how to define "voluntarily" or "involuntarily"
    2. Rustic
      Rustic 22 September 2022 08: 58
      0
      The cartridges ran out, but the knife remained, the brick - is this a voluntary surrender?
      I didn’t try to escape until the last, crawl away ... I didn’t have time to detonate myself before losing consciousness ...
  48. Alex 2019
    Alex 2019 22 September 2022 07: 49
    -12
    Yes, I don’t give a fuck who our guys were exchanged for, the main thing is they returned home. If, by and large, we do not cave in and do not agree to some kind of agreement, but go to the end, then the image losses will more than pay off and only victory will determine the future of the country. The winner will write history and set their own rules in building relationships with other countries
  49. Former soldier
    Former soldier 22 September 2022 07: 54
    +3
    We hope that soon no exchanges will be needed.
  50. Vlad 63
    Vlad 63 22 September 2022 07: 54
    +19
    That's what it is, denazification. In his best. And then many perked up, they say now we will start to fight for real. Haha! Nothing will change after the mobilization, judging by the exchange ala taira. From the group that has been since February 24 200, 300, "500", I'm sure very good. a lot (Tales of the foreman do not count). 300 thousand mobilized people will be driven into the trenches instead of the badly battered "regulars" (yes, they need rest and replenishment after the "brilliant" SVO, which went on for 7 months according to plan and continues.)