Shoigu: Russia reserves the right to respond to Israel

18 September 2018 509

The head of the Russian military department, Sergei Shoigu, in a telephone conversation with Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman, directly called Israel guilty of the death of Russian military personnel aboard IL-20, shot down off the coast of Syria.

Shoigu: Russia reserves the right to respond to Israel

The Russian defense minister noted that Moscow has repeatedly called upon various Tel Aviv channels to refrain from strikes on Syrian territory that threaten Russian military personnel. Shoigu stressed that the blame for the death of 15 man entirely lies with the Israeli army. He warned the head of the Israeli Ministry of Defense Avigdor Lieberman that Russia reserves the right to further adequate retaliatory actions against Israel.

The Israeli Ministry of Defense confirmed the fact of a telephone conversation, but declined comment on the night strike on Latakia, saying that they did not comment on information received from abroad.

Meanwhile, as a result of a search for IL-20, the aircraft was found to have fallen 27 km west of the city of Baniyas. At the crash site are eight ships and boats. The fragments of the crew’s bodies, the personal belongings of the servicemen and the wreckage of the aircraft are already on board.

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ashnajder

+4

18 September 2018 14: 12

and then the Minister of Defense will go to live in London)))) the main thing is that everyone is afraid, CONCERNS are charged))))
1. Vadim237
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 15: 13
  
  No, the concern is discharged - to Israel.
Self-propelled gunner

+6

18 September 2018 14: 12

The second plane shot down (without an adequate response). Are we really going to wait for a sunken submarine or something else? The terrorists have been put in their place, it’s time to put sworn friends in the same corner.
1. kakvastam
  
  +1
  
  18 September 2018 14: 31
  
  We will be there, and we will definitely wait.
  The main thing is not to fall for provocations!
  1. Lexeus
    
    0
    
    18 September 2018 19: 34
    
    Do you believe it yourself...?
2. ashnajder
  
  -1
  
  18 September 2018 17: 16
  
  the submarine was already there
3. keeper03
  
  -1
  
  19 September 2018 11: 31
  
  Ugh, ugh, ugh - Kursk has already been enough for us!!! It's high time to answer, otherwise the Supreme One began to give up on all fronts!
44Serega44

+2

18 September 2018 14: 13

Rest in peace. The Kingdom of Heaven is to you.
We must avenge the fallen!!!!!! And so that it would be clear for everyone.
Yes and more. Here in the Russian Federation we constantly boast of electronic warfare systems that have no analogues in the world. Let them land all the cut-off planes or burn them with an EMP. Test your developments correctly, not idle or on mock-ups.
Olezhek

+1

18 September 2018 14: 14

Hmmm a little off topic
but here is the reaction to the incident of the Belarusian allies:

"they eliminated Putin's high-ranking terrorists)))) respect and respect for those who wasted the anti-terrorist operation)))"

What are the Russians doing in Syria?
The mercenaries themselves are to blame

I think if the plane belonged to a country of the first second or at least third world, Israel would have given as much time to leave the firing zone as needed.

But, naturally, in this case there was no need to wait. This is the image of the Kremlin.

Russia can only “respond” to the weak (or rather, attack under the pretext of defense). Neither Israel nor Türkiye is one of these.

the main thing is that nothing will go beyond empty chatter, Israel, like the United States, will periodically bomb Syria, and the Russians are not even capable of the “last Chinese warning”
s ".

The Syrians shot down a Russian plane, and as always the Jews are to blame)))

Then the Israelis are not just aces, but wizards. So be able to maneuver planes so that Syrian missiles shoot down Russian planes

Did you want to take data on Israeli weapons systems? Did not work out!
Only you are to blame.

https://talks.by/showthread.php?t=14383109&page=14

Such are the allies ...
1. Peter Ivanov
  
  +1
  
  18 September 2018 14: 31
  
  The capitalists of all countries have allies - IT DOES NOT HAPPEN!
2. DREDD
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 14: 38
  
  Hmmm a little off topic
  but here is the reaction to the incident of the Belarusian allies:
  Indeed, you are off topic with your incitement of ethnic hatred.
  1. Olezhek
    
    +2
    
    18 September 2018 14: 47
    
    Indeed, you
    
    And we didn’t herd geese, dear....
GAndr

+3

18 September 2018 14: 15

I’m embarrassed to ask, where are the “comrades” under the flag of the blue, six-pointed star? Usually you can’t push them out of the site, but here it’s like water in your mouth. Only one showed up, and as always it’s like, we have nothing to do with it, it’s funny to God... Why the hell do you even dare to bomb an independent state that is a member of the UN?
1. Olezhek
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 14: 19
  
  https://news.tut.by/world/608358.html
  
  There are already 600 comments there - read the reaction of our Belarusian “allies”
  No worse than the Israelis
  Even better!
  1. Sewer krainiy
    
    0
    
    18 September 2018 16: 42
    
    Oleg Egorov. I read your opuses about Belarus and sometimes respond. Now your comment and my almost ready answer have been cut. I believe so: You are one of the Regnum correspondents expelled from Belarus....a wild insult, you understand. In your correspondence, please do not make a link to tut.bu, Belarusian police, charter, etc. oppov. They are not respected here... If you were to write analytics based on the echo of Moscow, RTVIAY (we have them on) about Russia....You understand me... . let's live in peace
    1. Olezhek
      
      0
      
      19 September 2018 08: 55
      
      In your correspondence, please do not link to tut.bu,
      Sewer krainiy
      
      In the ranking are millions of views:
      
      1. News Tut.by - 47,725 (entire portal - 157,092)
      2. News Onliner.by - 40,091 (all portal - 184,428)
      3. NN.by / Nasha Niva - 8,108
      4. Kp.by / Komsomolskaya Pravda in Belarus - 7,266
      5. Pressball.by - 7,102
      6. Belarusian partisan - 5,911
      7. BelTA - 4,390
      8. By.tribuna.com - 4,048
      9. Citydog.by - 3,384
      10. Naviny.by - 3,02
      11. Satellite Belarus - 2,779
      
      https://thinktanks.by/publication/2017/09/09/reyting-poseschaemosti-belorusskih-internet-smi-v-avguste.html
      
      That is, here Bai Comrad is the most popular online publication of the Republic of Belarus
      
      These are our “allies”
    2. Olezhek
      
      0
      
      19 September 2018 09: 30
      
      You can look at the next most popular Belarusian resource: Nasha Niva
      (Onliner.by writes mainly about internal Belarusian issues)
      
      Russian Ministry of Defense: Our Il-20 was shot down by Syria, but Israel is to blame
      https://nn.by/?c=ar&i=216127&lang=ru
      
      But what about friend or foe, or is such a system only in words? Flying carts. The Jews set up, what nonsense, the missiles were of the wrong system.
      
      And so on and so forth....
      
      let's live in peace
      
      Let's.
      With whom?
2. K-50
  
  -2
  
  18 September 2018 14: 26
  
  Quote: GAndr
  I’m embarrassed to ask, where are the “comrades” under the flag of the blue, six-pointed star?
  
  They started to dig their own graves and prepare a shroud.
3. Peter Ivanov
  
  +1
  
  18 September 2018 14: 33
  
  So the Zionists have no idea how to “offer” a small stool with a sawed-off leg to a guest!!!!
aglet

+2

18 September 2018 14: 18

Quote: Jurist
Wow! How come the commentators from the promised land dispersed under the Russian and red flags, it’s hot at one place, well, nothing, the answer is on the way.

the answer will take a long time. It will arrive in time next time
HAWX

+1

18 September 2018 14: 19

How can one even believe in this nonsense about a “maneuver”, why did the Defense Ministry remain silent when CNN had already put forward its version, many satellites were probably pointed at this ZBD, where are the actual pictures?
Varaga

+3

18 September 2018 14: 20

The most important thing is that these “further adequate actions” are actually taken. Namely, to close the Syrian airspace to the Israelis.
1. Peter Ivanov
  
  +3
  
  18 September 2018 14: 35
  
  Putin will not agree to this! Business type! And there is no need to break his mind! Yes, and you will have to run somewhere over time!
aglet

+2

18 September 2018 14: 22

Quote: pafegosoff
Shoigu? I knew this guy in early 1992. He was a total sucker for aviation.

but how the Ministry of Emergency Situations promoted, out of the blue, an education that no one needed, because it can, when it wants
kakvastam

+8

18 September 2018 14: 28

Well, now the Israelis can sleep peacefully - if the Russian Federation reserves any right for itself, it will rot there!
crests won't let you lie.
aglet

+3

18 September 2018 14: 28

Quote: kirillovleva
They will invite you to the next Victory Day...

What would life be like without them? after all, they also defeated Hitler
1. Peter Ivanov
  
  +3
  
  18 September 2018 14: 38
  
  Not them, but the Soviet Red Army! And We, the Soviet people, do not divide ourselves into nationalities! The main enemy for Us is Israeli Zionism, and not the Jewish people!
Peter Ivanov

+2

18 September 2018 14: 30

THERE WILL BE NO "RESPONSES" to Israel.....!
FOR ELTZINISTS - CAPITALISTS OF THE RF, Israeli - Zionists are close relatives and friends, accomplices!
aglet

+1

18 September 2018 14: 34

Quote: Letun_64
And so you will stick your face out

Well, he’s not sticking his face out. He’s safe, he’s a guarantor, he doesn’t abandon his own
kakvastam

+2

18 September 2018 14: 35

There will be no reaction, as there cannot be in principle.
Israel is not even Türkiye, after all, the historical homeland of most of the Russian government.
Although our government is well worth its people - the Turks shot down the plane, and the beaches of Antalya are crowded with “Russian patriots”!
Conductor

0

18 September 2018 14: 47

Che, are we really going to let the Jews down?
Varaga

+1

18 September 2018 14: 48

It would be nice to supply the S-300 to the Syrians. Train staff.
And let them shoot down the Jews. A couple of planes will “land” unplanned and the Israeli flights will stop. In any case, over the territory of Syria.
Shkiper

-2

18 September 2018 14: 51

I’m very interested, after all this, will they give the Syrians the S-300 or, as always, will their prime minister fly in, joke with our “father-tsar,” lay wreaths on the grave and everyone will remain in their own interests?
Laurus

+9

18 September 2018 14: 54

I’m quietly freaking out when I read the comments... Bomb Israel, blow it up, punish it in a hundred different ways at the same time! You know, I’m not a fan of this country, but what are my complaints about them? They are bombing a country with which they are at war. And it was Putin who coordinated the sorties of Israeli aircraft to strike his own ally. Some people are strenuously twirling their aphedron, trying to be good for Israel, Iran and Syria at the same time. But that doesn't happen. The reason for the death of our military is the eternal companionship of our president. Here you have to either protect your ally or leave there. And not to make claims against those who, unlike the Eternal National Leader, do not chew snot.
1. Olezhek
  
  +1
  
  18 September 2018 15: 20
  
  You know, I’m not a fan of this country, but what are my complaints about them? They
  
  They violated the agreement with the Russian Federation
  
  They are bombing a country with which they are at war.
  
  Officially announced?
  
  Some people are strenuously twirling their aphedron, trying to be good for Israel, Iran and Syria at the same time.
  
  Or rather, he’s trying to come to an agreement - are you proposing to attack everyone at once?
  1. Laurus
    
    +2
    
    18 September 2018 15: 24
    
    I suggest first deciding who is a friend and who is an enemy. Who is more important for Russia: Iran and Hezbollah or Israel. And act on this basis. Moreover, act extremely harshly, and not express the thousand-first concern. And if you are unable to act harshly after 30 years of liberalism and oligarchic capitalism, then do not get involved in military adventures at all.
    1. Olezhek
      
      -1
      
      18 September 2018 15: 31
      
      I suggest first deciding who is a friend and who is an enemy. Who is more important for Russia: Iran and Hezbollah or Israel
      
      "Both are worse...." C
    2. asv363
      
      0
      
      18 September 2018 20: 55
      
      Quote: Laurel
      Who is more important for Russia: Iran and Hezbollah or Israel.
      
      Iran, definitely.
lis-ik

0

18 September 2018 14: 56

Quote: Xander
Syrians shot down and the Jews to blame? Rare nonsense
That is, an Israeli pilot must, before the operation, think about where someone's MILITARY plane will turn, where a moronic ancient rocket will be homing, which turns out to not recognize friend or foe, which a hand-footed Syrian anti-aircraft gunner is shooting, and also warn about the goals in a day. Went to buy a book "The Art of War" author S. Shoigu

In fact, everything is much simpler - Israel did not expose anyone, did not plan anything about what was being broadcast, the pilots were truly sorry, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time. All questions to those who crap one's pants, to themselves, to the Syrians. For example, where was the umbrella from S-400/500/600/700, F-16 became invisible? Why did not the Syrians destroy the rocket if it flew in the wrong direction? The attack was 10 minutes, the Syrians fought back 40 minutes, from whom did they heroically fend off another half hour?

The strong takes responsibility and draws conclusions; the weak seeks guilty on the side

Everything is purely in the Jewish style, this is exactly how you always act, set you up, hit from under the radar, and then find yourself out of business. In principle, you can sleep peacefully with the connivance of “our” supreme ones, there will be no response. We'll get drunk again and dry off!
Conductor

-3

18 September 2018 14: 56

They strangled, they strangled, they didn’t strangle! Maybe Aloizych was right?
Skarpzd

+2

18 September 2018 15: 00

rest in peace. to the men. It's a shame that they are not avenged.
zan_parti

+6

18 September 2018 15: 04

Expressing concern in front of the yard punks is a useless exercise. Funny for punks. The only thing that can put her in her place is a broken arm, leg, knocked out teeth, etc.

Israel does not look at borders. He destroys not only those who attacked him, but also those who are just preparing to do this and do not wait for these people to cross the border. And we chew snot.

We need to take an example from Israel. Screw their entire aerobatic team that took part in that raid, along with the airfield. And then, in the style of the Jews, to say that we have nothing against Israel itself, we simply destroy the terrorists who kill our citizens.

And after this incident, at the slightest movement in the sky, near our planes, we shoot down without thinking.
Peter Ivanov

+3

18 September 2018 15: 07

Putin! Medvedev! - RESIGN!
Shoigu! Gerasimov! - to both, A PISTOL WITH ONE CARTRIDGE!
DOWN WITH CAPITALISM! LET'S RETURN SOCIALISM AND THE RSFSR!
1. Vadim237
  
  -7
  
  18 September 2018 15: 16
  
  Go first and shoot yourself against the wall with your head.
megadeth

+3

18 September 2018 15: 14

Great pain and sorrow for our fallen comrades, sincere condolences to the families and friends of the victims...
One question is how much longer America, Israel, Turkey, Britain, France, and soon Germany will wipe their dirty feet on Russia. Everything was leading up to this. It’s impossible to describe how the war is being waged in Syria... and there are no words at all (and some people got heroes...). Our ally behind the fence will be ironed by all and sundry. The militants are comfortably taken out of the encirclement with weapons and weapons. Now from Idlib, in comfort, to us in the North Caucasus... Why are our guys dying? Since our leadership is afraid of the amers and company, we must do so in order to leave with the least disgrace, or stop being deeply concerned and start taking action. And replace the gasket between the air defense system console and the operator’s seat on our AVO with a nickname....
1. megadeth
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 15: 27
  
  I wonder why...
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shalkir

0

18 September 2018 15: 37

PEOPLE!!!! ISRAEL JUST GAVE ITS VERSION!!!!!
""The Israeli military presented four arguments in defense of its position. First of all, they noted that the Syrian air defense fired “extensive and inaccurate fire,” which, in their opinion, was the reason for the death of the Russian Il-20. At the moment when Syrian air defenses fired missiles that shot down the Il-20, Israeli Air Force planes were already in Israeli airspace, the IDF said. In addition, during the Israeli Air Force strikes on targets in Latakia, the Russian Il-20 was outside the operation area."
Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/18/09/2018/5ba0e42c9a7947650fe8812b?from=main

What if it was a French ship that hit?
trophy

+6

18 September 2018 15: 42

I read the comments and the hair on my head stands on end. Hurray, forward, the whole world is in ruins and the Jews are the first, yes, we are in our mother’s panties.........! The target is illuminated by the operator, the target is determined by the operator by range, angle and speed. What does this have to do with the Jews who were further and below our car? The wording “covered up” means nothing, consumer goods. We are unlikely to know what actually happened there. Well, before you demand immediate and multiple retribution, you need to turn on your head. The Jews didn’t shoot at us (at least according to the official version), well, at least at a glance what will happen to Tartus and Khmeimim after the Jewish response, but I note that they don’t forgive anything and, unlike ours, they just don’t shake the air (Palestinians will confirm). The only thing we can draw is conclusions from the current situation, and unfortunately the conclusions are not comforting for ourselves. They came to fight, so they had to fight right away and for real, otherwise tomatoes, tomatoes. I gave it to this one, I gave it to that one, but I didn’t give it to this one because I didn’t like it... So we got the most tomatoes. Blessed memory to the men, condolences to the families, and to whom the curses will be decided by everyone for himself. I decided.
1. Nix1986
  
  +1
  
  18 September 2018 16: 10
  
  I agree on everything. But unfortunately, such a point of view requires some intelligence and is not as hyped as the whole world is going to pieces.
2. trump
  
  +1
  
  18 September 2018 17: 24
  
  So I decided..., but here are some wonderful Jewish poems to calm you down from the Jewish response:
  
  I'm talking about us - the sons of Sinai;
  About us, whose gaze is warmed by a different warmth,
  Let the Russian people lead a different path -
  We do not care about their Slavic affairs.
  
  We ate their bread, but paid in blood.
  Accounts have been saved, but not reconciled.
  We will take revenge - with flowers at the headboard
  Their northern country.
  
  When the bast test is erased,
  When the roar of red screams fades away -
  We will stand at the birch coffin
  To the guard of honor.
3. Olezhek
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 19: 05
  
  The Jews did not shoot at us (at least according to the official version),
  
  So we won’t either - we can organize everything smartly...
  (as if these were guys “not from our block”)
  
  Well, at least at a glance what will happen to Tartus and Khmeimim after the Jewish response,
  
  So you're already scared?
  That's why they carried out this operation.
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Sewer krainiy

+1

18 September 2018 16: 04

When we were young we sang:
Our concern is this, our concern is simple
If only my native country would live, and there would be no other worries...
Under the collapse of the Union:
homeland, homeland is ugly... (I’m writing since I was little...)
They reserve only the right, and not an immediate response to aggression against the Russian military...
Retired, but if necessary...
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Vovanya

+3

18 September 2018 16: 27

The score is 15:0 in favor of Israel... We need to win back.
Ros 56

-1

18 September 2018 16: 30

The Jews staged a provocation, probably attacked on purpose in order to frame the intelligence officer, but why are you cackling, will anything change because of your screams? Or do you think Shoigu reads your comments. They look like grown men, but you are hysterical like women. The kingdom of heaven to the guys who died, by and large, for their homeland.
pilot69

+3

18 September 2018 16: 35

That's all, they showed the guarantor and others like him. I have no more questions. In earlier times, people would shoot for less. What a shame. Friends, is it really all? Tomorrow they will say that the guys committed suicide, will you believe it? I consider the following comments on this site pointless. I have the honor. There are many officers here.
1. shalkir
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 17: 15
  
  I fully support it! But I still hope that there is a hidden subtext in the guarantor’s words “it will be visible to everyone.” I have the honor!
yuliatreb

0

18 September 2018 16: 37

The majority of those present here are rushing back and forth like women of easy virtue, without a clear position on many issues, when the RF Armed Forces are doing well in Syria, then the infamy is off the charts, they need to be cleared up, they are minus, how many times has already been stated, the RF Armed Forces will never will take responsibility for striking back, ambitions and savings in foreign banks are more valuable than the country’s reputation.
1. Olezhek
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 19: 07
  
  Most of those present here are rushing here and there
  
  something like that
  the RF Armed Forces will never take responsibility for delivering a retaliatory strike, ambitions and savings in foreign banks
  
  That’s not the point - when you miss a blow, the stupidest thing is to immediately rush to recoup
shalkir

0

18 September 2018 17: 10

The President already said everything an hour ago. What is there to discuss here now?
trump

0

18 September 2018 17: 10

Blow the Jews between the Jewish rolls so that they remember well, bitches
DUST

+3

18 September 2018 17: 22

The answer should be “Israeli” to shoot down 15 fighters...And transfer a tank division to the border!
ashnajder

-2

18 September 2018 17: 23

Most of the patriots are like children - Comrade Putin’s money lies in the ever-decaying West, and the children of his circle are not fools either, they all study and live there) and he won’t move anywhere, his gang is robbing the country, and all these statements are that there are enemies all around we are a besieged fortress for fools inside the country who will not even live to see retirement, but those who protect them will live quite well in comparison, so of course there will be concern that some women from Putin’s troops will burn the matzah or the iPhone and that’s it. Putin has already said - a chain of tragic accidents)
Mentat

0

18 September 2018 17: 27

To be honest, I don’t understand the character and personal qualities of people who scribble nonsense on such a topic, especially those who give “likes” and “pluses” to already written nonsense.
1. Mentat
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 17: 36
  
  Moreover, at such moments it is clear who is who, and what is inside him - in his head, first of all.
  The likelihood that tons of nonsense is written by officers who were once responsible for making significant decisions tends to very low values.
Metallurg_2

+1

18 September 2018 17: 50

I appreciate the following adequate answer:
- the import of Israeli matzo and radishes will be banned (for a time);
- they will thoroughly cough up this topic on federal channels for 2-3 weeks.
This will be the end of the matter. Because formally, the Jews really have nothing to sew on - they didn’t launch the rocket. In addition, behind our six-pointed friends there are mattress pads.
Comrade Kim

+2

18 September 2018 18: 16
Rest in peace...

This is how the Jews comment on this tragic event on Israeli TV Channel 9 (http://9tv.co.il/news/2018/09/18/262088.html):

We remember and draw conclusions about who are our friends and who are our sworn enemies.
1. shalkir
  
  +1
  
  19 September 2018 00: 26
  
  Crap! I followed the link. There is a completely different dimension of consciousness there. It was necessary to push the entire pseudo-caliphate that we are driving through Syria to the border with Israel and lock it there, maybe then they would understand the whole essence of our war in Syria. . .And about friends and enemies - a quote from the Tsar: “Russia can only have two allies - the army and the navy.”
Olezhek

0

18 September 2018 18: 58

There's just too much emotion.
It's like a war, albeit a hybrid one...
Moreover, it is a hybrid...
I didn’t understand something - did anyone really consider Israel our closest ally?
Then what is the question?
Shahno

0

18 September 2018 19: 29

Colleagues, finally eliminate emotions. Is it really not clear what real databases between yours and ours will lead to, if even the slightest mistake means the loss of 15 people...
1. 1976AG
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 21: 07
  
  you too, Pavel, understand that as long as we endure in silence, they will beat us, only when the enemy understands that we will not let him get away with anything, only then will they take us into account, and for this they will still have to hit us and let them be afraid too armed conflict with us.
Olezhek

0

18 September 2018 19: 29

And this is where the fun begins...
Lexeus

0

18 September 2018 19: 30

Let’s swallow another pill and that’s it.....
Andrey Vitalyevich

+2

18 September 2018 20: 48

Isn't it time to shoot down coalition planes????? otherwise doubts are created about the effectiveness of our complexes
nikvic46

+1

18 September 2018 20: 59

On this sad day for us, there is no desire to argue with the “hot guys”. Many people argue something like this: “You fight, and we will watch.” Our fathers fought for peace. They would have torn your throats. After all, it was their share
something happened that we cannot dream of in a nightmare. All the adversities that the devil came up with - all this
fell on our fathers and grandfathers.
Voenoboz

0

18 September 2018 21: 14

Once again they want to drag us into a war, but we need it. You see the whole world is against us, it’s ready to tear it apart, everything is against us, sanctions, Skripals, Boeing, for some reason they forgot about human rights. Yes, it’s a pity for our soldiers, but they did not die in vain; they gave us another portion of anger at our enemies.
Puper driver

+1

18 September 2018 22: 02

As a former air defense specialist, I can say: air defense systems must have equipment for identifying friend or foe, as well as flight requests for at least a day. The missile was launched by the morons we are protecting there. And they tell us that the Jews are to blame. Jews are probably to blame for a lot of things, but not in this case. We've had enough of the lies.
1. shalkir
  
  0
  
  18 September 2018 23: 27
  
  This is the country's best kept secret. Can you imagine what it means for the Syrians to provide information from the friend-or-foe identification system? We wouldn't have a single aircraft left there. And not only there. What do flight requests and rocket launch have to do with it? Everyone learned about the start of the Israeli operation 56 seconds before it began (quote from the Ministry of Defense). The missile was already in the air, and the IL-20 without cover became doomed. Unless, of course, you take into account the fact that the anti-aircraft missile system could have self-destructed in 5 seconds, when the Syrians would have discovered that they had gone the wrong way
shalkir

0

18 September 2018 22: 58

mvg,
Do you look smart? I emphasize that I am writing about the S-125 air defense system. It’s better to read for yourself about this installation and a very short note about its baptism of fire in Sinai (so, just in case - 1970). Everywhere in the media there is very short and very truncated information about Israeli combat losses. Apparently this is the way it should be. I’ll give you a hint - an article in the same magazine: https://topwar.ru/29211-malovysotnyy-zrk-s-125.html
KarabasBarabas

+1

18 September 2018 22: 59

o.k cunning Jews hatched their insidious plan, “COVERED UP”
by another plane.
Then I have a few questions for air defense and air force specialists.
How realistic is it to pull this off?
How far should planes fly from each other?
What's wrong with the system?
Did the IL crew know that there was someone else next to them?
And of course I feel sorry for the people, my condolences.
1. shalkir
  
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  18 September 2018 23: 16
  
  I’m practically no expert, but I know that the transponder of the friend-or-foe system cannot be paired with the Syrians under any circumstances. Our planes for Syrian air defense are “alien”
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    19 September 2018 21: 22
    
    that is, in a theoretical scenario, in a serious mess, Syrian air defenses will shoot down everything they see on the radar? and will Russian air defense crews also work? It’s unclear how some civilian aircraft hasn’t been shot down yet.
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Mentat

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19 September 2018 00: 32

Quote: PuperDriver
As a former air defense specialist, I can say: air defense systems must have equipment for identifying friend or foe, as well as flight requests for at least a day. The missile was launched by the morons we are protecting there. And they tell us that the Jews are to blame. Jews are probably to blame for a lot of things, but not in this case. We've had enough of the lies.

We protect ourselves first and foremost. And also yes, we do not allow defenseless people to be destroyed, whom, as it turns out, there is no one else in the world to leave alive, we support justice, we protect the world from terrorism and chaos, no matter how pretentious it may sound, but it is true, and no one else will do this could, stuck their heads up their asses, and watched what the world was being turned into, but Russia was able to, and even, in the end, let’s not forget the economic interests of the country.

But the most important thing is to protect our people, which is the goal of every warrior, because the blackness grown there would be directed towards us, and the hired Arab bandits who fouled in the Caucasus would turn out to be the pistils and stamens.
Where did you come from here? You haven’t seen ISIS maps, haven’t read anything, haven’t watched anything, don’t know and don’t understand? Hard to believe.

And who is to blame and what stupid people did it, we will definitely figure it out.

They write that Russia is acting weakly, they need to bomb everyone and grind them into powder. This is expected. ALL, absolutely all provocations - in Ukraine, in Moldova, in Transnistria, on the streets of our cities, in Syria - are aimed at one thing: starting a conflict with the participation of Russia, dragging them into a large-scale war, tying them up and strangling them. The narrow-minded people who scribble mountains of verbal chaff here do not understand this. I am more than sure that there are those who deliberately engage in provocations on the forum.

In fact, Russia demonstrates reasonable, restrained, rational behavior. For example, Türkiye, about which they say that it has become a friend. I would not use such terms, but a certain level of partnership has been restored. But who called her as a friend, Russia? No. Türkiye came on its own. Why? Because by this time they had already lost about 20 billion dollars and would continue to lose further. In other words, without the expected aggressive behavior of “bombing”, which they really wanted to drag us into with this provocation, we forced Turkey to peace on a different plane, but with the same result.

The same thing will happen with this episode - those who are guilty will be punished, one way or another, but probably not in the way expected. No one will forget what happened. If there really are culprits, i.e. it was deliberately planned to expose our plane to fire, all this will be clarified and completed.
Examenatornick

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19 September 2018 07: 00

The site should at least start by banning all Israeli IPs. Ban everyone who is seen as sympathizing with these traitors. Russia 24 in general, even at the beginning of the program about the downed IL, began with the words “good afternoon”
Volga073

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19 September 2018 08: 29

The Arab Jews have become completely stupid.
We need to hit their airfields with missiles.
fighter angel

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19 September 2018 09: 23

Again we get away with empty words... We shake our fists!
AleBors

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19 September 2018 10: 11

And again, nothing new... We screwed up and here's the result... Let's gurgle, express concern... The officials puff out their cheeks. And that's it..
I feel sorry for people. Eternal memory to those who died...
Sedoy

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19 September 2018 10: 26

* Shoigu: Russia reserves the right

oh well... :)
Kremlin talkers...
fif21

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19 September 2018 10: 39

Let them fight for such a Russia themselves.
Lena363

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19 September 2018 11: 43

The time of parquet generals is long gone!
Especially for supporters of “hard answers” to Israeli adversaries.
We open Wikipedia, type, say, “Operation Medvedka-19,” when in 82 Israel in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley crushed five Syrian brigades, the newest at that time, air defense brigades and up to a hundred Syrian aircraft. Soviet military advisers, watching this, nervously smoked, looked funny and swore. Moreover, the technical condition of the Syrian army was much better then, as was the training of its personnel, and it was not Russia that helped it, but the much more powerful Union.
Israel is a regional hegemon, a nuclear power. He is able to overcome any “answer” with multiple superiority in everything.
moisha

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19 September 2018 11: 47

If there is no water in the tap, it means you drank.....This is the answer to the question of who shot down, if they shot down in the Black Sea, the crests would be to blame.
mko

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19 September 2018 12: 36

Respect to the Syrian two hundred men! After all, they can if they want!
Syrian grief - "allies" shot down a Russian plane model from the time of the humpbacked "Zaporozhets"
Why? Because these warriors are well known for their professionalism, literacy and combat training.
Soviet missile shot down Soviet plane
The S-400 controls all of Israel - whether you warn me or not, everyone knows anyway
Russianvyaponii

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19 September 2018 13: 50

they will answer!

they will answer harshly!

expression of deep concern
gromoboj

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19 September 2018 15: 36

Balabol. They won't do anything, they'll wipe themselves off as usual.
ashnajder

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19 September 2018 22: 09

because you have to sit at home, protect the birch trees, there has been war in this region for a couple of thousand years (constantly) you have to be a genius to get into it.
Berkut154

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19 September 2018 22: 12

On the S-200 missile there is no interrogator, its own or someone else’s, therefore it doesn’t care that the most important thing ahead is the reflected signal from a radio-contrast target!
It’s not a fact that the Russian interrogator is on the Syrian S-200! Most likely it is not there and they work under the conditions and information that there are no aerospace forces aircraft in their zone!
Knowing the azimuth to the ground radar and the range to the ground radar and also knowing the azimuth and altitude of the IL-20, there is no problem for the F-16 to stand at the same azimuth and elevation! You need to stand at twice the height relative to the IL-20 and twice the range from the ground radar! And believe me, the funnel of the illumination channel (radar radiation pattern) at a distance of 80 km from the ground radar will be in the region of 1 km!
Voenoboz

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20 September 2018 23: 01

Why was such a plane without cover? Where are the fighters? After all, the mud was clearly irradiated by radar, which means there must be anti-missile defenses as a means of protection. Yes, there was a shooter on IL2 - I DON’T UNDERSTAND..

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