Indian Air Force: Su-57 is very expensive and loses F-22 and F-35. We can refuse from FGFA ...

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Not so long ago, Indian media published an article by Indian military experts that it is meaningless for India to enter into a contract with the United States for the purchase of F-35 fighters for the reason that India does not have any ammunition or service system for these aircraft (for example, air tankers) . It was also noted that the software of all systems of this aircraft after the implementation of the F-35 in India will still be under American control.

Now in the Indian edition Hindustan Times An article was published by Rahula Singh, who states that the Indian Air Force is "not suitable" and the joint development of a fifth-generation fighter (FGFA) with Russia. This is a joint work of the Russian company Sukhoi with Indian colleagues from Hindustan Aeronautics. This job pretty much slips.



In his article, Rahul Singh tries to explain the reasons for the slippage of the Russian-Indian project. However, he refers to the statements of the representative of the Indian Air Force Command. The article stated that FGFA (in fact, it is a modification of the Su-57 in the framework of the very joint project) "does not possess the characteristics that are needed by the Indian Air Force."

Indian Air Force: Su-57 is very expensive and loses F-22 and F-35. We can refuse from FGFA ...


From the material:
The plane loses in many ways not only the F-35, but also the F-22.


An unnamed source claims that India "is not interested in implementing a too expensive program, as a result of which the most modern fighter will not appear."

From the material:
In the command of the Air Force watching the project, but surprised by its incredible cost.


Recall that to date, the amount of the Russian-Indian contract under the FGFA program has decreased to 4 billion dollars. If in New Delhi they seriously believe that this is “incredibly big money” for creating the newest aircraft (5 generation), then I would like to clarify: are they aware of how much the F-35 program costs the United States and their “partners”? There, the amount is an order of magnitude greater than that which appears in the Russian-Indian project.

All these Indian “chamomile fortune-telling” about whether they need a joint project with Russia or not, and whether they need F-35, are similar to India’s typical bargaining system. The goal of New Delhi is one: for a "one and a half rupee" investment get a newest fighter, "which has no analogues in the world," and even with the full transfer of production technology.
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  1. Berg berg Rank
    Berg berg
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    18 March 2018 14: 06
    The article is so-so, it smacks of provocation from India. The goal is clearly to reduce the capabilities of the Russian aircraft in order to get all the technologies for its production that they previously asked for, but as they say, wig-you! Let them try to buy irons from America, but no one will sell the technology there either!
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  4. Stalnov I.P. Rank
    Stalnov I.P.
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    18 March 2018 15: 18
    Quotation: I.P.
    Yes, fuck... with these Indians, time will pass, the Americans will tie them to themselves and then the Indians will lick their ass, that’s what they want, well, the flag is in their hands. drum on the neck.
  5. Wolka Rank
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    18 March 2018 15: 32
    During the occupation, the Indians apparently acquired such swagger from the British...
  6. Shaska Rank
    Shaska
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    18 March 2018 17: 47
    The Indians do not want the SU-57. They want TECHNOLOGY!!!
    Well, did they share KAMA-SUTRA with us? Now let's share with them TECHNOLOGIES of a different kind!!!
    LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!
  7. head
    head
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    18 March 2018 18: 35
    The Indians are always getting impudent. Well, greedy people. They'll finish the game..
  8. tun5t
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    18 March 2018 18: 35
    And a button accordion to these Indians, since they didn’t want air conditioning
  9. Gado Rank
    Gado
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    18 March 2018 18: 45
    Gypsies, they are gypsies.
  10. SHURAVI Rank
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    18 March 2018 19: 53
    You must be able to fly, and not only on the Su-57! It’s certainly easier on elephants!
  11. philosopher Rank
    philosopher
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    18 March 2018 20: 33
    Is the Indian expert exactly aware of the price of the F-35 “and even” the F-22? The conclusion in the article is not in the eye, but in the eye. They are bargaining.
    1. Cossack 471 Rank
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      18 March 2018 20: 52
      you don't understand anything. just a plane for Indians should be beautiful. colored. with ribbons. similar to that one. on which the gods flew to them
  12. Volganin
    Volganin
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    18 March 2018 23: 27
    The Chinese and Indians are very difficult partners in business and any undertaking. These cunning asses will try to get more benefits, even to the point that we will also be at a loss.
  13. Ilya_Nsk Rank
    Ilya_Nsk
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    19 March 2018 07: 31
    These indiots are the headache of our military-industrial complex, for every rupee they will take out the whole of Moscow.. East, .. “Your tanks are crap! We will make our own!” - neither our own development is accepted, nor anything made under license.. And that’s all they need super-duper and for pennies..
  14. valerij.koroliow Rank
    valerij.koroliow
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    19 March 2018 08: 26
    I read several articles about how the Indians “rejected” the Russian Su57 in comparison with the F35, considering the latter more “promising” and thought that the reasons were political and the desire to “bring down the price”. and very “vocally” in order to “assert oneself” and indicate “solidarity with the USA and England.” Apparently the “colonial syndrome” is making itself felt.
    The Americans are always ahead, as with space flights and the moon landing, which, according to the research of their own analysts, may not have happened at all.
    And it would not be worth “communicating” with Indians in military developments at all: firstly, they are “printers”, and secondly, remember their recent excursions for American specialists to a secret submarine purchased from Russia. They are not reliable, stingy and not grateful “partners”. This is without skepticism and sarcasm. Let them take the “efki” - and as they say, “the flag in their hands”, look, Pakistan will buy it. When “our leadership” learns to “put in their place” such “partners”, in pursuit of dubious and “momentary benefits”, including financing industry of “opponents”, value the labor of its citizens above the labor of “foreigners” and evaluate its results in “Gold”, and not in “green false currency” - Russia will become Great.
  15. valerij.koroliow Rank
    valerij.koroliow
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    19 March 2018 08: 31
    I read an article that the Indians “rejected” the Russian Su57 in comparison with the F22, considering the latter more “promising” and thought that the reasons were political and the desire to “bring down the price”. and very “vocally” in order to “assert oneself” and indicate “solidarity with the USA and England.” Apparently the “colonial syndrome” is making itself felt.
    The Americans are always ahead, as with space flights and the moon landing, which, according to the research of their own analysts, may not have happened at all.
    And it would not be worth “communicating” with Indians in military developments at all: firstly, they are “printers”, and secondly, remember their recent excursions for American specialists to a secret submarine purchased from Russia. They are not reliable, stingy and not grateful “partners”. This is without skepticism and sarcasm. Let them take the “efki” - and as they say, “the flag in their hands”, look, Pakistan will buy it. When “our leadership” learns to “put in their place” such “partners”, in pursuit of dubious and “momentary benefits”, including financing industry of “opponents”, value the labor of its citizens above the labor of “foreigners” and evaluate its results in “Gold”, and not in “green false currency” - Russia will become Great.
  16. valerij.koroliow Rank
    valerij.koroliow
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    19 March 2018 08: 35
    I read an article that the Indians “rejected” the Russian Su57 in comparison with the F22, considering the latter more “promising” and thought that the reasons were political and the desire to “bring down the price”. and very “vocally” in order to “assert oneself” and indicate “solidarity with the USA and England.” Apparently the “colonial syndrome” is making itself felt.
    The Americans are always ahead, as with space flights and the moon landing, which, according to the research of their own analysts, may not have happened at all.
    And it would not be worth “communicating” with Indians in military developments at all: firstly, they are “printers”, and secondly, remember their recent excursions for American specialists to a secret submarine purchased from Russia. They are not reliable, stingy and not grateful “partners”. This is without skepticism and sarcasm. Let them take the “efki” - and as they say, “the flag in their hands”, look, Pakistan will buy it. When “our leadership” learns to “put in their place” such “partners”, in pursuit of dubious and “momentary benefits”, including financing industry of “opponents”, value the labor of its citizens above the labor of “foreigners” and evaluate its results in “Gold”, and not in “green false currency” - Russia will become Great.
  17. loaln Rank
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    19 March 2018 09: 22
    It seems that the cunning Indians took everything they wanted from the joint project. Now, having sold half of it to the Americans, you can create some kind of squalor of your own. And then again come to Russia with an outstretched hand. She always helped the poor.
  18. Serg nik Rank
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    19 March 2018 09: 31
    It is not entirely correct to draw conclusions about the advantages of a particular fighter solely on the basis of its performance characteristics. It is not planes that fight, but complexes. If, for example, one of the parties to the conflict, with the help of ground-based radars, ships and AWACS aircraft, is able to create a continuous radar field, while the other is not, then this is what will determine its greater losses under other “almost equal” conditions.
  19. timgan777 Rank
    timgan777
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    19 March 2018 20: 28
    "put them on a keg of gunpowder, let them fly"
  20. av58 Rank
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    19 March 2018 21: 56
    I would only support India's decision to buy the F-35. Firstly, why on earth should we share design ideas and technologies with a potential ally of a potential enemy? Secondly, Indian investments do not help us. Thirdly, the Indians will still not be able to build a modern aircraft, this has not happened in the past, not in the present, will not happen in the future, the general culture and culture of production is not the same. Finally, the F-1 as part of the Indian Air Force is a sure way to get the necessary intelligence information about the American aircraft.
  21. Valery Saitov Rank
    Valery Saitov
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    21 March 2018 09: 40
    Well, what else can I tell them: there are no bananas.
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  23. ver_ Rank
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    21 March 2018 15: 54
    Quote: Andrey K
    Quote: ver_
    ... strange .. Indians and descendants of ancient ukrov are not relatives for an hour ..? ...

    Nothing strange Yes
    It is necessary to ask the Sumerians, they will definitely say and they will find a rationale for this. They ancestored the ancient Egyptians laughing

    ...maybe from the Armenians - they have everything on record since the time of Genghis..
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  25. Sedoy Rank
    Sedoy
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    23 March 2018 13: 50
    there are exactly the same custom articles as everywhere else...
    so there is no point in reacting and reflecting on every rant...
  26. Jamilya Mustafaeva Rank
    Jamilya Mustafaeva
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    24 March 2018 16: 20
    In such cases, I would say this to the Indians: “If you are a fox? Then I am the Fox Tail? And you can’t beat me? Take from their perfect F22 and F35, which in air combat are not only superior to our Su57 and Su35 and even those outdated Su30MKI ?So no, the Hindus don’t want to go to heaven on someone else’s “x”y” in the world of arms sales, there are no longer any fools left, as in the times of the USSR, when they crushed everything to the Hindus for nothing, if only there was an imaginary ally, those days are gone forever.
  27. Alex K Rank
    Alex K
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    25 March 2018 14: 02
    The Su-57 is very expensive))))) well, well.... in comparison with the F-35 and F-22. these are pennies
  28. ver_ Rank
    ver_
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    25 March 2018 18: 18
    Quote: Andrey K
    Quote: ver_
    ... strange .. Indians and descendants of ancient ukrov are not relatives for an hour ..? ...

    Nothing strange Yes
    It is necessary to ask the Sumerians, they will definitely say and they will find a rationale for this. They ancestored the ancient Egyptians laughing

    ..however, you need to ask the Armenians.. They have all the logs recorded from the Creation of the World....
  29. timgan777 Rank
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    25 March 2018 20: 43
    gypsies they remain gypsies
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