The Kremlin is afraid of Grudinina? It turns out that yes!

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An interesting overall situation. It creates the overall impression that in the Kremlin they were seriously alarmed. VCIOM polls are, of course, great, but here are a bunch of independent polls, including those from well-known bloggers, where Grudinin doesn’t have 8-10%, but much more, obviously, made many people think.





So what? Someone in the headquarters of Putin thought? Come on ... Everything is still on the thumb. The main thing - there is an administrative resource, and the possibility of its use.

I conclude: the command "to spread rot on all fronts" was given.

A start was made in Novosibirsk. Zyuganov made a statement in which he called the incident administrative arbitrariness. But the CEC of the Russian Federation has a different opinion.

CEC secretary Maya Grishina: “According to the information we have, the material was released by a fairly significant circulation (it says“ 400 thousand copies ”) without payment from the election fund and containing signs of election campaigning.”

So what is wrong with the bulletin? If you believe Grishina, the article of the bulletin contains information with a clear predominance of information about the candidate Grudinin in combination with positive comments, and the published program “Pavel Grudinin’s 20 Steps” is “perceived as an election program.

Well, come. And what should there be? The party (underline) informs about its candidate and its program. Not a word about campaigning, it was about the fact that for those interested, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation explained the information about the candidate and his program.

Well, why it was necessary to call names and scold Grudinina, is also not entirely clear.

Naturally, from the arrest of the circulation the whole show was arranged. You can not just come to the printing house, does not. It is necessary to attract as many people as possible who want to demonstrate their loyalty ...

So, the DPS officers stopped the car with the circulation, waiting for the moment when the car left the printing house “Soviet Siberia”. The circulation and its accompanying persons were taken to the Kirov regional police department. Explanations were taken from the escort, and the circulation was arrested.

As a blueprint, a similar “operation” took place in Buryatia. That only once again confirms what has been said about the team "Fas!"

Let's go further. Next we will have our media. The list is great, and, by the way, you can immediately tell who is independent and who is not.

Beautifully rushed, I will not say anything. Luxuriously. Amicably And most importantly, with fiction and twinkle. Grudinin was even credited with what he said not a word.

Grudinin, it turns out, justifies the use of labor of migrants by the experience of the West, refuses to disclose information about his transactions, justifies businessmen who keep money offshore, and from renting land received more money than strawberries.

And this, I note, our seemingly cultural capital. St. Petersburg. Motherland ... Oh, here, perhaps, I will keep silent. Homeland of many honest and cultured people, so let's say.

For example, Ksenia Sobchak.

Say, and what have Sobchak? Well, firstly, she was born in St. Petersburg, and secondly, oddly enough, she gets away with a lot.

Yuri Sidorov, a staff member of her staff, publishes an open appeal on Facebook, stating: the collection of signatures in support of Sobchak in Chuvashia was carried out with the help of the head of the republic Ignatiev.

And nothing, everyone is happy with everything.

But here everything is clear. As well as the role of Sobchak, which plays into the hands of Putin on the wave of its “popularity” among normal people, is understandable.

Or always losing Vladimir Volfovich. There is no threat to the main candidate, but, you see, Grudinina will slightly take away the votes.

Not rivals, but assistants can be much more than opponents. Because questions to Sobchak and Zhirinovsky does not arise. Everything is clear and so.

And Grudinin presents a certain threat. It is clear that not in this election. But the emergence of a candidate who has a vision of the alternative development of Russia, and, most importantly, the ability to work, is a threat.

The candidate of such a political cocktail as the left and the patriots, and, moreover, voicing what many residents of Russia are thinking about, is serious.

And this is not populism. A fair court, which will be on the side of the law, a citizen and society - we do not need it? Decent salary? Even if not free, but secondary and higher education in general, and not fiction in the form of slurred paper-diploma? Free medical care? The real thing again, not a fiction, after which you are welcome to private clinics where the same doctors work?

That is, Grudinin voiced the return of everything that was taken from us (and taken as a result) in the last 25 years.

Is this not a threat? Considering that all “made in the USSR” will not die out soon, this is a threat.

And “nationalization of strategically important and backbone industries, electric power industry, railways, communication systems, leading banks”? (Taken from 20-steps Grudinina.) Russia's withdrawal from the WTO? Suppression of the withdrawal of capital abroad?

This is already an attempt on the sacred by the comrade of the pre-farm. In the living beats.

And most importantly, Grudinin gives the impression of a person who is able to bring all this terrible dream of a modern Democrat to life.

And this is dangerous for the Kremlin. Well, the fact that he is believed, and his popularity is growing.

And if so, then, from the point of view of power, the candidate Grudinina must be pressed. Let even for this it is necessary to use dirty tricks. Lie down, izovrat, reinterpret the meaning of words.

This is already the norm for our country. Lying and twisting is a normal tool of political struggle, and of the struggle in general.

The only good news is that the clumsy execution of actions against Grudinin and the frank twisting of his words play into his hands.

For voters who are not Zyuganov’s supporters, an understanding of the mechanism of “raids” on Grudinin may be sufficient reason to cast your vote for him.

But for representatives of the movement against the existing government, all actions against Grudinin are a beacon in the night. Here he is, another opposition leader whom the authorities fear and harm him.

And how can you not remember Navalny? Who claimed that the authorities were afraid of him, but did the authorities simply brush him off the game board? And then - please, gentlemen, the opposition, not just yours, but with real opposition from the administrative resource.

A little, but I think they will. Those who are smarter, who realized that Navalny’s political career is over.

There is, however, another opinion. What is all this ups. And that the appearance of Grudinin is a subtle game of AP, the goal of which is to turn the election from one actor's theater into a seemingly normal show with real opposition. Some attempt to turn Grudinina into an attractive candidate for those who were going to actually boycott the elections as useless and empty.

But for me personally, the second opinion is somewhat doubtful. Too all clumsy is done. Whether in a hurry, or panic ...

I prefer to consider everything that happens in this way. And, accordingly, Pavel Grudinina is regarded as a person who may be able to stop the stupidity and spiritual impoverishment of the country in favor of the cunning plans of our oligarchs.

In general, there is something to fear the Kremlin is.
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    1. +1
      30 January 2018 16: 20
      Grudinin is a liar, the king of bots and a corrupt official.
  2. +1
    27 January 2018 18: 58
    Grudinin is a protege of the West. He is being moved by Boldyrev, that bastard.... Only now they came from the other side, “responding to the aspirations of the people”... But if Grudinin is elected President, he will be destined for the role of Kerensky. - destroy defense, security and governance. Then he will say WELL, I CAN’T, and wash his hands....
    1. +3
      28 January 2018 22: 08
      Don't smoke that crap anymore...
    2. 0
      5 February 2018 12: 52
      what are you smoking? If it’s marijuana, then it’s very bad!
  3. +2
    27 January 2018 19: 21
    Hospadi, no one is afraid of him. How will he implement his funny program? He will personally return the money and land, or only the GDP will be taken away from his friends and nationalized.
    1. 0
      5 February 2018 12: 53
      Read the program, huh. If everything that is written there is turned into reality, then the money will be found very quickly!
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  5. +4
    27 January 2018 21: 00
    And aren’t you tired of: “If not Putin, then who?” (...if not Lukashenko, then who?... if not Nazarbayev, then who?...) and further down the list.
    At 18 years old, a child becomes an adult. For Putin, only Crimea is in the black (and the whole of Ukraine is in a huge minus), and overseas “partners” began to be named in quotation marks quite recently. Then everything will be the same for another 6 years.
    And then a real alternative appears...
  6. 0
    27 January 2018 21: 02
    Quote: cedar
    It has long been clear that you don’t like Putin, well, be patient for six years, and display Grudinin’s portrait above your bed and sleep peacefully...

    ----------------------------
    At least read the comment before quoting. It says “I don’t sympathize with Pavel Nikolaevich.” And the GDP is not a ruble, so everyone likes it. I am not satisfied with the whole course of the country, and the whole world has already had enough of capitalism. Why don’t I sympathize, because Pavel Nikolaevich is still a capitalist. It’s like Aksakov and Nikolaev campaigned for a “Fair Russia”, and both are bankers. Banker and justice are opposites.
  7. +4
    27 January 2018 21: 08
    I definitely agree with the author of the article. If people wake up and go to the polls, the current government will fly away faster than its own scream. I think this will be correct and very timely!
    1. 0
      28 January 2018 15: 18
      The election result is already known.
  8. +4
    27 January 2018 22: 41
    For Grudinin!
  9. +1
    27 January 2018 23: 35
    Kissing the sovereign's boots is an art. Kissing the sovereign's boots with the tongue and passionately is a high art. Join the high, gentlemen! Playfully kissing and caressing with your tongue all the roughness of the master's boots... this is what you need to work in the administration
    1. +3
      28 January 2018 00: 26
      for their children and grandchildren...the king gives them a ration, the main thing is for...the elderly electorate...he gives a stable ration...what a joy!
      ...and you say - generation 90X! Yes, the generation of the 90s was not raised on handouts and rations. Unlike you, we won’t sell our country for a piece of sausage!
    2. +1
      28 January 2018 12: 47
      I take it this is from your personal experience? :))

      LEN
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    1. +2
      28 January 2018 12: 46
      Nobody is afraid of Stalin. And they respect.
      And Leshenka and strawberry cause nothing more than disgust.

      LEN
      1. 0
        29 January 2018 01: 10
        They throw mud at him at every opportunity, not always directly, but they don’t miss the opportunity. This doesn't look like respect on their part. Apparently he comes to them at night.
  11. 0
    28 January 2018 04: 22
    DEAR DEMOCRACY-MONEGOCRACY-UTOPIA, NOT BETTER THAN COMMUNISM...you care about the fate of Russia, this is already a plus...As the Lord God puts it so it will be...God help everyone..
  12. +3
    28 January 2018 04: 32
    I feel like I’m living in the MATRIX... There’s only one positive thing on TV: how beautiful and wonderful everything is here... I go out into the street: the houses are abandoned, there are empty windows in the five-story buildings... I drive up to a gas station - 42 rubles per liter. In general, THERE IS NO MONEY AND THERE WILL NOT BE, BUT YOU HOLD ON!!!
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  14. +1
    28 January 2018 10: 19
    groks,
    groks,
    Quote: groks
    groks Today, 08:00 ↑
    Absolutely sure. Because I asked.
    In the village, people think that it is worse now than in the 90s.

    but I live here and people think differently
  15. 0
    28 January 2018 10: 41
    I agree with Kalashnikov, if Grudinin gets a lot of votes, he may well count on the post of Prime Minister!
    1. +4
      28 January 2018 12: 44
      Can not. None of these clowns, and Strawberry along with them, can count on anything in Russia. Let him try his hand at Liechtenstein, where he keeps his money.

      LEN
      1. +3
        28 January 2018 13: 06
        The elections will show! What did Putin say? He’s happy with the government laughing but the people are not happy, and all this propaganda from TV is just words, but the citizen sees everything based on receipts for utilities and prices in stores!
      2. +6
        28 January 2018 22: 14
        Unlike you and your Putin, Grudinin spent his whole life engaged in PRODUCTION, and not scratching his tongue.
        Of course, Putin will NEVER make him prime minister, because this man understands why we have such an ass. and Putin believes that only his billionaire (dollar) friends are doing poorly, and they are eating the last member without salt.
        But everything is fine with us and we ride like cheese in butter on a pension of 10000 rubles.
  16. +5
    28 January 2018 11: 34
    In my memory, this is the second campaign of this kind for P.N. Grudinin on this resource.
    And the second time I had similar impressions as I read it - from amazement and disappointment with the content to laughter through tears.
    After all, the Russian language is great and powerful! He will always tell you how to treat this or that information, if not in terms of content, then in terms of the images that arise when reading the speaking names and surnames.
    In no way am I trying to ridicule the author of this opus, but when I read these emotional nonsense in defense/campaigning of one of the presidential candidates of Russia, and then “Author: Roman Skomorokhov”, you think so - this should be put in the epigraph or in the title itself articles, because it is even deliberately difficult to characterize this reading more accurately and concisely.
    If we take a more serious approach to the topic, then I noted for myself that this is sucking some events out of thin air in order to maintain in the public’s mind the image of “poor unfortunate Grudinin and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation”, which the Kremlin, the Central Election Commission and everyone who is not too lazy, they are clamping down wherever possible and impossible to imagine - in fact, it is a mediocre, biased attempt to admit one’s own helplessness and incapacity, in an attempt to influence public opinion in the right way, given that the people of Russia, for the most part, are trusting, complacent and sympathetic people, will take it to heart complaints, snot and aspirations of even a liberal, even a “communist”, even an “obvious renegade corrupt official” serving a sentence in prison - purely humanly, our people always remain susceptible to the suffering of people, regardless of their social status, and even regardless whether these heralds really experience these very “sufferings” or are disingenuous.
    So, I consider it unworthy of any candidate to exploit this quality of Russians for their own selfish purposes in order to gain political advantage in the fight for the presidency.
    Why are you making snot and smearing it all over your cheeks? If it weren’t for this writing of yours, I personally wouldn’t even know that P.N. Grudinin’s headquarters had anything to do with ballots and campaign materials. How could this affect ratings or success in future presidential elections? What are you making out of a molehill? And most importantly, why? However, these are all rhetorical questions.

    In my opinion, they are now trying to carry out a special operation in Russia, something similar to the one that emerged following the results of the US elections, when Donald Trump won.
    Namely, the passage of these elections with maximum damage to the image and legitimacy of the future president of the state, in order to subsequently reduce his ability to carry out this or that policy both in the foreign policy arena and within the country to the maximum possible minimum.
    With D. Trump and the United States, this special operation went off with a bang, very effectively, the President of the United States still cannot throw off the weights and shackles that were thrown on him, among other things. political elites of the United States itself. However, he holds up quite well and works quite effectively, but what would happen if the American elite and the media controlled by them consolidated around their president and did not question his legitimacy, did not threaten him with impeachment and did not put a spoke in his wheels? It's better not to imagine. For our state, which is trying as much as possible to rebuild itself from American political influence, this is all to its advantage.
    Now let’s imagine that the same situation will happen in our country.
    What's going on with us now? There is a large-scale campaign to discredit the presidential elections in Russia. The electorate is already quite clearly segmented into classes according to views:
    1. I won’t go to the polls because:
    - I never went and I don’t intend to;
    - what for? - there will still be fraud, stuffing, and politics is a dirty business, choose whoever you want, nothing will change anyway;
    -my vote will not decide anything - go, don’t go - it doesn’t matter;
    -they made some kind of circus out of the elections, brought in a bunch of clowns, “Putin will win anyway” (analogous to “Hilary will win anyway” in the states), and then either:
    a) so I’m already for Putin - good;
    b) it’s bad, but you still can’t change anything.
    2. I will vote for the political project “Grudinin”, it’s not very clear where it came from, what worldview it adheres to, but:
    -anyone, as long as NOT Putin;
    -I always voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, so they are for him;
    -look at what a beautiful kindergarten they built (marketing);
    - “Putin/Hilary will win anyway,” so I’ll at least let him know so that he doesn’t relax;
    -Grudinin is the same as Putin, only younger, more beautiful and more popular!
    3. Even for a clown, as long as it’s not Putin or the communists.

    All this works perfectly for the task of putting a spoke in the wheels of Russia in the future. If even now there is no popular clash like in Ukraine between ardent supporters of the “offended communists”, Grudinin and Putin (the ideal scenario is Maidan), then the legitimacy of the future president of Russia can be called into question, which will clearly reduce his ability to negotiate and the room for maneuver will be clear narrowed down, because:
    1. “Just look at the turnout: 5-7%, are you such a popular president? You can’t even imagine the position of the majority of the country’s population; some governor over there had higher support on average across the country.”
    2. “I snatched victory from Putin/Grudinin on my own, the difference is half a percent, so it was probably stuffing, i.e. it’s not you who should be president, but someone else (Trump/Clinton), at best, half of that is for you, only from those who came to the polls."

    This is what also needs to be kept in mind now, and not just worry about how to unpretentiously throw wood on the fire of the clash between political elites in Russia.
    1. +5
      28 January 2018 22: 17
      You wrote a lot of letters, but no thoughts. Continuous propaganda of "United Russia".
      You are either stupid or an enemy. People.
      1. 0
        29 January 2018 15: 29
        Quote: myobius59
        You wrote a lot of letters, but no thoughts. Continuous propaganda of "United Russia. You are either stupid or an enemy of the people.
        your own words:
        “Don’t judge everyone by yourself, there are a lot of people who are smarter than you, although they don’t advertise it here.”
        Why did you spray poison? calm down, crazy.
    2. +3
      29 January 2018 05: 25
      What a strange person you are... The Prime Minister openly declares that there is NO money for pensioners, we will raise the retirement period. The President openly calls his friends not the people, but the oligarchs! THE MINISTER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A BRIBERY!!! GDP growth is within the statistical error!!! And you have one answer to everything - STATE DEPARTMENT!! Are you satisfied with the current Government??? Maybe they announced to you THEIR program for the social development of the country, the focus of which is THE WELFARE OF CITIZENS??? Maybe they have achieved a reduction in MORTGAGE rates and young people pay not for 25-30 years, but for 10-15??? What have these gentlemen achieved in 17 years of unlimited power!!! Why are you all blaming the State Department, since you yourself.... (((((
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    1. +8
      28 January 2018 22: 02
      A communist cannot be a huckster. Putin was neither a communist nor a Komsomol member, but he worked in the KGB. Alikperovs, Sechins, and others. They also lived in the USSR and were communists and Komsomol members. It’s strange, how did they become bourgeois??? Don’t just say that they were not members of the CPSU.
      At the end of the 1970s, Alekperov was assigned to Western Siberia according to party orders. He worked in senior positions in divisions of the Surgutneftegaz production association: in 1979-1980 he was a senior engineer, deputy head and head of the oil and gas production department of the Fedorovskneft oil and gas production department, in 1980-1981 he held the position of head of the central engineering and technological service oil and gas production department "Kholmogorneft", and in 1981-1983 he was chief engineer and deputy head of the oil and gas production department "Lyantorneft". Have you read it? - according to party orders..... If there was a BP, it wouldn’t be a fig and not a party order. Who is he now - a bourgeois, an oligarch!
      We go further:
      Putin V.V., member of the CPSU since 1975.
      Matvienko V.I., member of the CPSU since 1972 of the year.
      Naryshkin S.I., member of the CPSU since 1976 of the year.
      Medvedev D.A., member of the CPSU since 1986 of the year
      Ivanov SB, member of the CPSU since 1973 of the year.
      Shoigu S.K., member of the CPSU since 1979 of the year.
      Lavrov S.V., member of the CPSU since 1972.
      Sobyanin S.S., member of the CPSU since 1986 of the year.
      Churov V.E., member of the CPSU since 1982 of the year.
      Fradkov M.E., member of the CPSU since 1972 of the year.
      Poltavchenko G.S., member of the CPSU since 1975 of the year.
      Bortnikov A.V., member of the CPSU since 1975.
      Stepashin S.V., member of the CPSU since 1973 of the year.
      Chaika Yu.Ya, member of the CPSU since 1976 of the year.
      Gryzlov B.V., member of the CPSU since 1971 of the year.
      Astakhov P.A., member of the CPSU since 1985.
      Sechin I.I., member of the CPSU since 1990.
      Chubais A.B., member of the CPSU since 1980.
      Kolokoltsev V.A., member of the CPSU since 1982.
      Ulyukaev A.V., member of the CPSU since 1983.
      Siluanov A.G., member of the CPSU since 1989.
      Volodin V.V., member of the CPSU since 1985.
      Surkov V.Yu., member of the CPSU since 1985.
      Golikova T.A., member of the CPSU since 1986.
      Zorkin V.D., member of the CPSU since 1970.
      Lebedev V.M., member of the CPSU since 1968.
      Tuleyev A.G., member of the CPSU since 1968 of the year.
      Zubkov V.A., member of the CPSU since 1967 of the year.
      Hey communist haters! Everyone who is now at the helm is communists. Only repainted on time. And they also say that Grudinin left the United Democratic Republic. How are they better than him?
      Kasyanov M.M., member of the CPSU since 1979
      Khodorkovsky M.B., joined the CPSU while studying at the Moscow Art Institute (1981-1986)
      Prokhorov M.D., member of the CPSU since 1988
      They are bourgeois! oligarchs! Or not? Or are they still communists???? A? Elena Khazova! Just don’t say that you’re all lying! There's no time! And this is a proven fact.
      Strange people, they contradict themselves and don’t even notice it.
      1. +2
        28 January 2018 22: 42
        And our Dima, it turns out, only joined the party at 86. He’s very young and already a prime minister!
        1. +1
          28 January 2018 23: 31
          Young - yes early. But a capable devil)))) He was in the right place at the right time))))
  18. +4
    28 January 2018 13: 46
    Why is everyone so tense all of a sudden?
    Well, let's elect Grudinin... just for fun...
    After all, we survived 1917 and beyond, we mastered 41-45... where ours didn’t disappear... I’m just tired of listening to the same fairy tale for 17 years... I got tired of it under Leonid Ilyich...
    1. +2
      28 January 2018 22: 19
      Yes, you’re lying, you didn’t live under Leonid Ilyich. If I lived, I wouldn't write this crap here.
      1. +1
        31 January 2018 11: 46
        and in the beginning, when he just threw off Khrushch.....mmmm! It was not life, but thoughts! Indeed, education and medicine are FREE, at school milk and munchies do not come from mom and dad’s pocket, they didn’t require money for school renovations.... oh, nostalgia....
  19. +1
    28 January 2018 14: 21
    The Kremlin is not afraid of him! Both Grudinin and Ksyusha are the same testicles, only viewed from the other side. And a troll feeder - go for a walk, office!
  20. 0
    28 January 2018 14: 36
    He is Grudinin, he is Rodchenkov - there is only one question: “Comrade! At whose expense are you organizing the banquet? Where does the money for your miracle projects come from?”
  21. +8
    28 January 2018 15: 13
    When VVP became president, oil cost 25 dollars, a liter of gasoline cost 7 rubles, 1 dollar cost 28 rubles, and I paid 500 rubles for an apartment. Now oil costs 70 dollars, a liter of gasoline is 45 rubles, 1 dollar is 56 rubles. and I already pay 7000 rubles for the apartment. The result of the 18-year rule of GDP does not require comment. Where is the money, Zin?
    1. A57
      +2
      28 January 2018 17: 34
      The downs may not need comments, they are all bullshit. Even crap. But your global mistake is that it is not the state that sets prices for goods, but the stock exchange. And prices are always world wide. And blaming it on a healthy one is no longer a clean sign, you are either doing it deliberately and trying to fool respected people. Or you yourself are not a very smart person and your appetite is for eating other people’s shit. All large businesses have foreign, offshore jurisdiction, hence the tariffs in dollars.
      1. +1
        28 January 2018 22: 21
        You judge by yourself, it’s crap about the downs.? Personal experience?
        Don’t judge everyone by yourself, there are a lot of people who are smarter than you, although they don’t advertise it here.
      2. 0
        31 January 2018 11: 10
        Why does the state exist? To notify that there is no money?
    2. 0
      28 January 2018 17: 45
      Speculative growth in all areas except the cost of gasoline, the state needs money in the budget, so it increases gasoline prices by increasing taxes, and so the money goes to this
      and these amounts are far from enough.
      1. +3
        29 January 2018 23: 30
        That's right, don't raise taxes on the oligarchs. There are not enough of them, what can you collect from them? And there are a lot of poor people - 20 old women - that's already a ruble.
  22. A57
    +4
    28 January 2018 17: 19
    The resource was outbid. Such a howl can be regarded as such. The fact is that there is no persecution of the collective farmer; censorship in Russia is prohibited, as is pressure on the media. There is a flow of information about Grudinin as he really is. You can't deceive the people! If Grudinin squeezed land and apartments from people, beat up journalists, people must know who they are screwing over. Grudinin himself admitted on camera that they were the initiators of the mistake with the shares, which means they specifically used this method for PR, just as in 16 Kasyanov filmed himself in porn. This is a well-known technology of black PR. It’s to his own advantage, because he’s still the winner. For that he smeared everyone else with shit. And all such twists, that they are clamping down on him, that they are spreading negativity about him, all this comes from Grudinin. You will also say that Misha’s layoff people spit less crap about Putin. Grudinin is an oligarch, and of the gangster type of the 90s. He speaks smoothly, but he counts on idiots. The question is, how will he do all this? After all, the state is far from being its own collective farm, I live according to the rules I want, and subordination to the state is reduced to a minimum, like paying taxes and complying with the Criminal Code. A private owner has more rights in his collective farm than a leader of a country whose state is subordinate not to internal interests, but to generally accepted principles, international law and treaties. Which a drunkard in the 90s waved without looking. We are still trying to sort things out so as not to lose our authority in front of other countries as a reliable partner. And we wait for the expiration of agreements that are not beneficial for Russia, then terminate them forever. It is not the Kremlin that is afraid of Grudinin, but the people who are afraid of his deeds, his arbitrariness and the brutal enslavement of people. Tyranny in a word! People are accustomed to the freedom that Putin gave them. Nowadays, officials can do little without the consent of the people, only with the consent of the residents of populated areas. In the 90s, bureaucrats spat on people.
    1. +2
      30 January 2018 22: 47
      A57
      Nowadays, officials can do little without the consent of the people, only with the consent of the residents of populated areas.
      Whaaaaat?
  23. +4
    28 January 2018 17: 49
    The Kremlin is afraid of Grudinin
    fool
    Grudinin is afraid of the State Department Yes
    The State Department is terrified of the Kremlin Yes angry Yes
  24. +2
    28 January 2018 18: 06
    The United States is betting on Grudinin and those who vote for him will work for the enemies of Russia.
    Whoever does not support Putin in the elections will support the enemies of Russia, who have been waging war against it and Putin for three years. Only in VO there are no articles about this, much less in the comments, not a ton...
    And that Russia has no enemies trying to crush it, like the Union was crushed? And that no one works for them inside the country?
    The elections will show everyone and everything, and if you don’t have enough intelligence, like the great Ukrainians, then they will punish you with a bloody massacre...
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin
    1. +1
      28 January 2018 20: 26
      All this happened in the 90s - we passed it, it doesn’t wake us up anymore.
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    2. +1
      30 January 2018 22: 49
      Quote: cedar
      The United States is betting on Grudinin and those who vote for him will work for the enemies of Russia.
      Whoever does not support Putin in the elections will support the enemies of Russia, who have been waging war against it and Putin for three years. Only in VO there are no articles about this, much less in the comments, not a ton...
      And that Russia has no enemies trying to crush it, like the Union was crushed? And that no one works for them inside the country?
      The elections will show everyone and everything, and if you don’t have enough intelligence, like the great Ukrainians, then they will punish you with a bloody massacre...
      Sovereignty. Russia. Putin

      Don't take it as insolence, but you forgot to "look at the root."
  25. +5
    28 January 2018 22: 26
    Quote: cedar
    The United States is betting on Grudinin and those who vote for him will work for the enemies of Russia.
    Whoever does not support Putin in the elections will support the enemies of Russia, who have been waging war against it and Putin for three years. Only in VO there are no articles about this, much less in the comments, not a ton...
    And that Russia has no enemies trying to crush it, like the Union was crushed? And that no one works for them inside the country?
    The elections will show everyone and everything, and if you don’t have enough intelligence, like the great Ukrainians, then they will punish you with a bloody massacre...
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin

    And your signature is a member and propagandist of the anti-people party "United Russia". cedar.
    That’s right, let it be worse for US (not you, of course), but we vote for Putin and United Russia.
    And it’s great that they are all Slackers. They were scared of Grudinin’s high rating.. Look, how they have a point here, then bench press. That’s right, if in your entire life you haven’t lifted anything heavier than your dick, then you’ll be afraid that you’ll have to work, and not scratch with your tongue and steal. What if the new tsar won’t let you steal like that, unlike the previous swindlers!?
    1. +1
      29 January 2018 09: 08
      Quote: myobius59

      ... were afraid of Grudinin's high rating.. ...

      How does he get such high ratings? Where are they?
      an inveterate swindler with a "pot behind the hill"
  26. 0
    28 January 2018 23: 14
    Vasilenko Vladimir,
    "Do you generally understand how to conduct a survey"
    I understand that you are spinning around like the famous insect on a comb. And I’m telling you that the audience of Vestifm ​​covers all regions of Russia, people of all ages, social status, and political orientations listen to it (as the voice of the state). Tell me any more or less significant group of the population that is not covered by it, instead of sucking out finger digits error.
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  28. +1
    29 January 2018 05: 01
    like this thief for president.
    1. +1
      29 January 2018 05: 38
      How did the current MINISTER OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT deal with this??? ))) It’s normal..))
    2. +1
      29 January 2018 05: 39
      and MINISTER OF DEFENSE...)))
  29. +1
    29 January 2018 08: 32
    Quote: Old

    http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov
    Grudinin’s rating on various sites is 2-3 times higher than Putin’s.

    try this site on 2ip.ru/whois/
    look at the registration date (2011), the site is registered to a couple of private owners from Penza.
    one of them, as he himself writes on VK: “The head of KOMTET” (this is the registrar and hoster of the site), in addition, he is like a professional photographer. the second one sings a lot.
    so how? Do you agree to trust them in ranking candidates?

    I recommend checking out the other “various sites”. I'm sure a lot of interesting things await you.
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    1. +1
      29 January 2018 11: 04
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      Gentlemen "Confused" do not go to "g..o".

      How can I see that the “witnesses of St. Sternum” are snot coming out of emotion and are so easy to hang up labels
      Quote: Sasha_Sar
      According to all independent polls from Grudinin...

      give an example of “independent surveys”
  32. +2
    29 January 2018 11: 00
    Quote: _man_
    In my memory, this is the second campaign of this kind for P.N. Grudinin on this resource.
    And the second time I had similar impressions as I read it - from amazement and disappointment with the content to laughter through tears.
    After all, the Russian language is great and powerful! He will always tell you how to treat this or that information, if not in terms of content, then in terms of the images that arise when reading the speaking names and surnames.
    In no way am I trying to ridicule the author of this opus, but when I read these emotional nonsense in defense/campaigning of one of the presidential candidates of Russia, and then “Author: Roman Skomorokhov”, you think so - this should be put in the epigraph or in the title itself articles, because it is even deliberately difficult to characterize this reading more accurately and concisely.
    If we take a more serious approach to the topic, then I noted for myself that this is sucking some events out of thin air in order to maintain in the public’s mind the image of “poor unfortunate Grudinin and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation”, which the Kremlin, the Central Election Commission and everyone who is not too lazy, they are clamping down wherever possible and impossible to imagine - in fact, it is a mediocre, biased attempt to admit one’s own helplessness and incapacity, in an attempt to influence public opinion in the right way, given that the people of Russia, for the most part, are trusting, complacent and sympathetic people, will take it to heart complaints, snot and aspirations of even a liberal, even a “communist”, even an “obvious renegade corrupt official” serving a sentence in prison - purely humanly, our people always remain susceptible to the suffering of people, regardless of their social status, and even regardless whether these heralds really experience these very “sufferings” or are disingenuous.
    So, I consider it unworthy of any candidate to exploit this quality of Russians for their own selfish purposes in order to gain political advantage in the fight for the presidency.
    Why are you making snot and smearing it all over your cheeks? If it weren’t for this writing of yours, I personally wouldn’t even know that P.N. Grudinin’s headquarters had anything to do with ballots and campaign materials. How could this affect ratings or success in future presidential elections? What are you making out of a molehill? And most importantly, why? However, these are all rhetorical questions.

    In my opinion, they are now trying to carry out a special operation in Russia, something similar to the one that emerged following the results of the US elections, when Donald Trump won.
    Namely, the passage of these elections with maximum damage to the image and legitimacy of the future president of the state, in order to subsequently reduce his ability to carry out this or that policy both in the foreign policy arena and within the country to the maximum possible minimum.
    With D. Trump and the United States, this special operation went off with a bang, very effectively, the President of the United States still cannot throw off the weights and shackles that were thrown on him, among other things. political elites of the United States itself. However, he holds up quite well and works quite effectively, but what would happen if the American elite and the media controlled by them consolidated around their president and did not question his legitimacy, did not threaten him with impeachment and did not put a spoke in his wheels? It's better not to imagine. For our state, which is trying as much as possible to rebuild itself from American political influence, this is all to its advantage.
    Now let’s imagine that the same situation will happen in our country.
    What's going on with us now? There is a large-scale campaign to discredit the presidential elections in Russia. The electorate is already quite clearly segmented into classes according to views:
    1. I won’t go to the polls because:
    - I never went and I don’t intend to;
    - what for? - there will still be fraud, stuffing, and politics is a dirty business, choose whoever you want, nothing will change anyway;
    -my vote will not decide anything - go, don’t go - it doesn’t matter;
    -they made some kind of circus out of the elections, brought in a bunch of clowns, “Putin will win anyway” (analogous to “Hilary will win anyway” in the states), and then either:
    a) so I’m already for Putin - good;
    b) it’s bad, but you still can’t change anything.
    2. I will vote for the political project “Grudinin”, it’s not very clear where it came from, what worldview it adheres to, but:
    -anyone, as long as NOT Putin;
    -I always voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, so they are for him;
    -look at what a beautiful kindergarten they built (marketing);
    - “Putin/Hilary will win anyway,” so I’ll at least let him know so that he doesn’t relax;
    -Grudinin is the same as Putin, only younger, more beautiful and more popular!
    3. Even for a clown, as long as it’s not Putin or the communists.

    All this works perfectly for the task of putting a spoke in the wheels of Russia in the future. If even now there is no popular clash like in Ukraine between ardent supporters of the “offended communists”, Grudinin and Putin (the ideal scenario is Maidan), then the legitimacy of the future president of Russia can be called into question, which will clearly reduce his ability to negotiate and the room for maneuver will be clear narrowed down, because:
    1. “Just look at the turnout: 5-7%, are you such a popular president? You can’t even imagine the position of the majority of the country’s population; some governor over there had higher support on average across the country.”
    2. “I snatched victory from Putin/Grudinin on my own, the difference is half a percent, so it was probably stuffing, i.e. it’s not you who should be president, but someone else (Trump/Clinton), at best, half of that is for you, only from those who came to the polls."

    This is what also needs to be kept in mind now, and not just worry about how to unpretentiously throw wood on the fire of the clash between political elites in Russia.

    Today, the biggest “stick” in the wheels of Russia is Putin, or rather the oligarchy hiding behind him. So you are worried about the fate of the country. And what fate awaits us if today we do not reach the level of the RSFSR in 1990, and in six years it is quite possible that we will fall into the third ten in terms of GDP. Putin’s time has passed; he is unable to solve the problems facing the country. And if Putin wins, then from the first day he will become a “lame duck”, in 2-3 years everyone will give a damn, and it is not a fact that he will serve out his term. Sic transit gloria mundi
  33. +2
    29 January 2018 15: 05
    Meanwhile, stability in the country is gaining momentum:
    For the first time in the modern history of Russia, in January 18, 2 regions (Khakassia and Kostroma region) were declared financially insolvent and transferred under the external financial management of the Federal Treasury. The debt of these two entities on loans from the federal budget exceeded 80% of the income they collect into their own treasury. Now all financial transactions there, including salaries for nannies in kindergartens, will be controlled from Moscow. It is predicted that a new wave of “optimization” will sweep through these regions...
    What can I say, we must call things by their proper names: the process of regional default has begun. ...How vile the State Department is. will he still spoil things for us?
    1. 0
      5 February 2018 13: 03
      Yayyyyy! Yayyyyy! ours is putin!!!!!! and our bear is gone!!!!! yayyyyy!!!!!
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  35. +2
    29 January 2018 18: 24
    What nonsense! The impression from the article is that our authorities are blind and deaf and do not know what is happening in the country. Why should the authorities be afraid of a communist candidate if they know perfectly well that this is the last exhalation of the life of the populace)) And he is not the chairman, but the general director, heading one of his LLCs! What he was lucky enough to earn is known. Therefore, to say how successful he is is simply ridiculous. I don’t even have experience in managing the region, I’m silent about the city. He uses this campaign to then get elected to the Moscow Duma on a wave of popularity, nothing more.
    1. +3
      30 January 2018 05: 53
      And since, in your opinion, our authorities know everything, does that mean they are deliberately destroying the economy? Or are excise taxes on fuel unconsciously established, and a liter of AI-95 in one of the OIL PRODUCING countries costs more than in Thailand, where oil is IMPORTED!!!? What consciousness! I give a standing ovation! They also unconsciously set teachers' salaries??? What about librarians? Or maybe our pensioners, like the Chinese upon retirement, travel all over the world, and do not stand in stores near the shelves with the cheapest cereals? Maybe our government is doing all this unconsciously?
    2. +2
      30 January 2018 05: 57
      And please remind us how many regions were led by VVP and DAM before joining the government? They probably had a wealth of experience as business managers???
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  37. +2
    29 January 2018 18: 32
    Interesting parsley.)) For the fact that I called the thief Grudinin a thief, I received a warning..) That is, he did not transfer money to an offshore company, which is already theft, he did not trade lands, the profit was absolutely honest... you’ll have to vote for him.. .
    1. +2
      29 January 2018 23: 25
      hmm, and the man who was put in power by Voloshin and Dyachenko (who are held by the purse and what is deeper by the Rothschilds) is an example of incorruptibility, modesty and independence?! Ha ha ha
      You guys are making me lose weight!!! (or are you writing for money? Then it’s clear and there are no complaints)
  38. +6
    29 January 2018 19: 56
    Presidential candidates are still being determined by the Central Election Commission, and who will win is already known wink
  39. +1
    29 January 2018 23: 24
    It's a shame that they believe this. Do they believe that one bourgeois politician will be better than another bourgeois politician just because he called himself a communist? Yeah, so the bourgeoisie directly allowed a candidate who wants to take away “factories, newspapers, ships” from them to win in the elections they organized - do you believe that Grudinin or Zyuganov do not realize this? Yes, everyone knows perfectly well, they are simply parasitizing on the memory of a regime that, for all its shortcomings, was a people’s regime.
    1. +3
      30 January 2018 06: 15
      Not quite like that... Grudinin does not talk about the nationalization of “factories, newspapers, ships.” On the contrary, he is all for the development of honest, SOCIALLY ORIENTED business... There is no talk of USSR 2.0. And the word “communism” is not even uttered out loud.. We are talking about a turn in the internal policy of the state towards the welfare of the population, instead of the welfare of the oligarchy.. Are you against this? Aren’t you tired of all the bullshit that’s been hung on your ears about how wonderful and wonderful everything is in our country? How, instead of supporting the population, the government supports the banking sector, and instead of the “oligarch affected by the sanctions”, you will pay taxes. Why did the word “import substitution” appear only thanks to sanctions? The reason is simple, BEFORE the sanctions, no one was going to develop VITAL sectors of the economy, it got to the point that they were already going to BUY weapons from NATO countries!!! Just think about these words! Where is the enemy?
      1. +1
        30 January 2018 08: 52
        It doesn’t matter what Grudinin promises. All bourgeois politicians swear and promise before elections that they will do their best to improve the well-being of the population. But, as the classic said, “The state is an instrument in the hands of the ruling class.” And any politician will primarily defend the interests of the ruling class, which is now the bourgeoisie. Be it Putin, or Grudinin, or Sobchak, or whatever her name is, the wife of the “Sausage King”. Any of them will also continue to “support the banking sector” and extract taxes from the poor. That's why they are put forward.
        And the ruling class is not at all afraid of a change of president. Yes, they have already worked well with Putin, a new one will come and they will work with him too. Everything is fine, beautiful marquise, as long as the game goes according to their rules - “fair democratic elections, a popularly elected leader.”
        The only “soft” option to influence the situation now is don't go to the polls. By participating in the elections you confirm your loyalty to the existing system.
        This is what the bourgeoisie are truly afraid of, it’s not for nothing that they shout from every iron how important it is for everyone to vote, no matter for whom! Even the Patriarch was involved in this propaganda.
        Don’t be fooled by candidates’ election noodles, improve your political literacy.
        1. +1
          5 February 2018 13: 10
          another bulk on the forum! I wonder when it will dawn on you that by not going to the polls you are playing into the hands of the CURRENT AUTHORITY? IS IT TICK? I WILL EXPLAIN FOR THOSE NOT AT ALL ADVANCED: THERE IS NO TURNOUT THRESHOLD, AND FROM FROM THE FEWER OPPOSITORS TO THE CURRENT AUTHORITY COME, THE HIGHER THE CURRENT AUTHORITY'S % WILL BE. HERE IS THE CONCLUSION: YOU ARE A TROLL!
          1. 0
            6 February 2018 08: 19
            Oh how. Why not an agent of the State Department?
            Well, if the “opposition” has a higher percentage, what will be better?
            In the 1996 presidential elections, Zyuganov almost caught up with Yeltsin. What, has it gotten better? Has the government begun to listen to the people? If so, then so much the worse for the “opposition”, because it was during this period that the population’s income level dropped sharply (in December 1999, by as much as 41% - a European “record”).
            Somewhat later, in the 2011 Duma elections, the “party in power” United Russia lost its qualified majority. What, has it gotten better? At least once did the “opposition” take advantage of the opportunity to block the adoption of “anti-people laws”? Just listing such laws adopted by this Duma would require a separate article.
            But, go ahead, run to the polls, confirm your fundamental agreement to the right of the bourgeoisie to rob you.
            Although, it still won’t reach you.
  40. +2
    30 January 2018 07: 16
    Quote: myobius59
    And it’s great that they are all Slackers. scared of the high Grudinin's rating..


    This rating is made. According to NOD, the blogosphere is being bought up en masse to promote Grudinin. Bloggers are offered any money.
    As the United States itself admits, they spent 5 billion greenbacks on the Maidan in Ukraine; they will print all 1000000000000 for a coup in Russia without blinking....., they don’t feel sorry for such a vile deed.
    We are looking at the rotten, Amerish root of Grudinin’s rating, dear...
    1. 0
      30 January 2018 13: 30
      GCD? Sorry to ask... have you seen Fedorov? laughing In my opinion, there is nothing even to discuss here
    2. 0
      5 February 2018 13: 11
      Why is no one paying me! It’s kind of a shame, listen! where to go for denga, eh?
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    1. 0
      30 January 2018 16: 16
      Wait, Turkmenistan has already canceled free gas...
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  44. +2
    30 January 2018 16: 13
    Quote: Klaus
    GCD? Sorry to ask... have you seen Fedorov? laughing In my opinion, there is nothing even to discuss here

    So I didn’t see you, so what? And there is precisely something to discuss, namely the people’s support for Putin. Is she there or not? Do the people have a request for liberation from the 25-year-old Naglo-Saxon occupation or not? Is there a need for a Leader of the National Liberation Movement or not? And the people themselves, do they exist or no longer exist? Only elections can show this.
    Let's look at the root. Putin is the leader of the NOD. Grudinin and NOD are two incompatible entities.
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin
    1. 0
      30 January 2018 22: 58
      Quote: cedar
      Quote: Klaus
      GCD? Sorry to ask... have you seen Fedorov? laughing In my opinion, there is nothing even to discuss here

      So I didn’t see you, so what? And there is precisely something to discuss, namely the people’s support for Putin. Is she there or not? Do the people have a request for liberation from the 25-year-old Naglo-Saxon occupation or not? Is there a need for a Leader of the National Liberation Movement or not? And the people themselves, do they exist or no longer exist? Only elections can show this.
      Let's look at the root. Putin is the leader of the NOD. Grudinin and NOD are two incompatible entities.
      Sovereignty. Russia. Putin

      Don’t tear yourself away from the roots, you’re nowhere without them, you’re a cedar!
    2. +1
      31 January 2018 02: 22
      laughing does Putin know that he is the leader of the NOD? laughing What, Fedorov has already been demoted or something?
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    1. +1
      31 January 2018 02: 55
      “This journalist” is a certain Edward Bohua. Have you heard of this? - I don’t... But there is something on the Internet from six years ago:
      ... “I have this problem: I have a great desire to work for the state and serve the people - could you help me with this?” — this is how student Edward Bokhua, who is receiving a second higher education at the journalism department, addressed the president at the meeting. At a meeting with the president, he said he was ready to do “anything” and “wants to serve my people.”
      The President asked Edward to leave his coordinates, which he did. “So far there has been no response from the presidential administration,” says Bohua. He is sure that they will call him again; according to him, too little time has passed since the meeting. "

      http://www.mn.ru/society/77891
      ...Well, apparently the time has finally come, and they called him... laughing
  46. +3
    31 January 2018 08: 39
    Grudinin is independent from the West and from the local oligarchs who are tied to Putin and are doing everything so that “Western values” and their “democracy” are imposed on us, which allows people to live from hand to mouth and die for the glory of “democratic values” that are disgraced by such monstrosities.. . sorry, “effective managers” like Chubais, Kudrin, Nabiulina and others who advocate the Western path of development, which has only brought Russia downfall and poverty!
    And that is why the authorities are so afraid of him, because they know that as soon as he comes to power, they (effective managers) will have to learn new specialties at the expense of the state in Kolyma! And it will be right!
    EVERYONE VOTES FOR BREAST !!!
  47. +3
    31 January 2018 08: 45
    The creatures twitched! Are you scared that you will soon have to answer for everything you have done to the country?
    But you will have to, and no foreign country will save you! The people have enough ice axes for all of you!
    EVERYONE VOTES FOR BREAST !!!
  48. +2
    31 January 2018 10: 56
    Quote: Foxmara
    Quote: kepmor
    there is no wizard Churov, but his work lives on


    Here they have rolled out yet another ram who frantically closes accounts abroad on the day of registration lol
    Clear business - he will not pick up. But a bunch of trolls make it look like the candidate is real.

    This, as you deigned to put it, ram, preserved his enterprise, created excellent working conditions, provided his workers with housing, kindergartens, and built a luxurious school. There were more than a dozen state farms around Moscow. How many of them have survived? And where peasants receive a salary of more than 70 thousand rubles.
    Why spray poison?
  49. +2
    31 January 2018 11: 32
    Yesterday I watched the speech of GDP in front of my trusted representatives..... a pathetic sight! not ONE REAL SUGGESTION, just MUST!,,,, MUST! etc.
    and who didn’t give you these damn burnt proposals to implement during your 18 years of reign?! TIRED!!!
    1. +2
      31 January 2018 12: 48
      Russia is unlikely to survive another 6 years of rule by Putin’s gang of thieves (Kremlin list of the State Department) .. apparently things are really heading towards a rebellion .. the patience of the people is not endless... A... Grudinin, this is a chance to avoid the Russian merciless rebellion
  50. +3
    31 January 2018 12: 28
    Quote: Victor Demchenko
    Yesterday I watched the speech of GDP in front of my trusted representatives..... a pathetic sight! not ONE REAL SUGGESTION, just MUST!,,,, MUST! etc.
    and who didn’t give you these damn burnt proposals to implement during your 18 years of reign?! TIRED!!!


    So you didn't give it. And now you won’t give it. You will vote for Grudinin, whom the United States has already voted for and whom they, not you, are leading to the elections. Preparations are underway for a repeat of the Ukrainian Maidan, only on a much more terrible scale. Many Maidan survivors in Ukraine, when they see US flags above the buildings of the same Ukrainian security service and other government institutions, bite their elbows.
    The arrogant Saxons will use you, with your ice picks and sternums, in the same way and throw them in the trash.
    Look at the root. Putin and his Organization are not fools; how cool would it be to surrender the country to its eternal enemy, and even without a fight.
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin
    1. +1
      1 February 2018 08: 23
      Quote: cedar
      Quote: Victor Demchenko
      Yesterday I watched the speech of GDP in front of my trusted representatives..... a pathetic sight! not ONE REAL SUGGESTION, just MUST!,,,, MUST! etc.
      and who didn’t give you these damn burnt proposals to implement during your 18 years of reign?! TIRED!!!


      So you didn't give it. And now you won’t give it. You will vote for Grudinin, whom the United States has already voted for and whom they, not you, are leading to the elections. Preparations are underway for a repeat of the Ukrainian Maidan, only on a much more terrible scale. Many Maidan survivors in Ukraine, when they see US flags above the buildings of the same Ukrainian security service and other government institutions, bite their elbows.
      The arrogant Saxons will use you, with your ice picks and sternums, in the same way and throw them in the trash.
      Look at the root. Putin and his Organization are not fools; how cool would it be to surrender the country to its eternal enemy, and even without a fight.
      Sovereignty. Russia. Putin

      Who are we? It’s not those who sit in the thoughts and councils who sit in the thoughts and councils, but they were appointed by Putin himself. But we didn’t interfere, we believed and hoped and it turns out that it was in vain. And now it’s time to change the names.
      1. 0
        5 February 2018 13: 18
        thank you brother, I no longer have words to answer this.... no, not cedar, I grew up in Altai, cedar is a holy tree there, it feeds everyone, and this one... well, bog oak most likely has something to prove to him very difficult, in my opinion not even possible! then someone told me that they pay for comments... so I’m wondering if they’re paying him? recourse
  51. +3
    1 February 2018 12: 24
    This is a really interesting situation. Zyuganov and his Central Committee finally openly showed that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is a communist party only in name. By nominating its presidential candidate, Mr. Grudinin, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation asked its comrades an unsolvable riddle. How can one, in order to protect the oppressed and offended by capitalist power, put forward an oppressor, who is not even a real capitalist? And Grudinin is just that. All his talk about how he is not like that is talk for the naive. His enterprise operates in a capitalist country under capitalist laws. He himself says that it is successful, i.e. produces a surplus product. And what is the nature of the appropriation of this product. Private of course. Under capitalism it cannot be any other way. Another matter is what form of appropriation. He pays his loved one and makes payments through his subsidiaries. In fact, the leadership of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has been moving towards something like this for a long time. When reading the party program, you will not find anywhere a provision on the dictatorship of the proletariat. Instead, there is a thesis about the power of the people. But this is a very general situation for the people. Among the people there are hired workers and individual farmers and exploiters. It is naive to think that Comrade Zyuganov and his comrades do not know that socialism cannot be built without the dictatorship of the proletariat, just as capitalism cannot be built without the dictatorship of capital. Power always involves struggle. And, if necessary, forceful suppression of enemies of power. This is an axiom. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation refused all this and, as a result, slipped into a position of supporting the bourgeois system from here and Grudinin floated out. Naturally.
    1. +1
      1 February 2018 14: 32
      We need to bring some clarity to the question.
      So, very briefly, the ideas of communism were born in the era of enlightenment, were further reflected in the philosophy of Hegel, reworked and economically justified by Marx, and developed by Lenin. As we know, in the RSDLP there were 2 approaches to considering communist ideas: high theoretical and down-to-earth practical, as a result of which the theorists called themselves Bolsheviks.
      Faced with the reality of governing the country in 17-21, the Bolsheviks realized that classical Marxism is just a beautiful theory that very little correlates with the realities of life. It was then that Lenin said that at the present stage of development of the productive forces of society, communism is an unattainable goal. It was a milestone. At this point, “communism” disappears from ideological usage, and the NEP, the USSR appears, and the concept of “socialism” is adopted into circulation as some indefinitely long phase of the transition to bright and distant communism. And here two models of this very socialism take shape:
      - Leninsky, based on the economic basis of a market economy, which, in fact, over time would inevitably transform into ordinary social democracy of the European type.
      - Stalinsky, based on the mobilization principles of war communism, which transformed into a totalitarian regime and barracks-type socialism.
      As a result: Stalin's totalitarian socialism, as expected, was devoured by the bureaucracy and transformed into a command-administrative regime, which was also eventually devoured by the degenerating bureaucracy.
      So: in the modern Communist Party of the Russian Federation, in my opinion, there is a change of generations, and more and more common-sense opinions are inclined to believe that it is necessary to revise socialist ideas, and, as in that “Matrix,” return to the starting point. Namely: to the Leninist idea of ​​a market economic basis, adapted to the modern realities of the 21st century, and a socially oriented political superstructure.
  52. +2
    1 February 2018 13: 50
    Infantile babies really like the “spreading cranberries” from the “strawberry king” Pasha. )) Sometimes it’s even useful to read the Bible: from Matthew Ch. 7 “15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits you will know them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? “And it’s not just strawberries that make a person full!

    Strawberry land of Comrade Grudinin, candidate for President of Russia
    http://oppps.ru/klubnichnaya-zemlya-tovarishha-gr
    udinina-kandidata-v-prezidenty-rossii.html
    1. 0
      1 February 2018 15: 37
      Here is information from the notorious fake news generator site "Optimist".
      The “optimist” in the sources of this “article” points to the material of Galina Kravchenko from the newspaper “Vzglyad”.
      But the newspaper "Vzglyad" is:
      "The owner of the publication since 2013 has been the Institute of Socio-Economic and Political Research (ISEPI), which is headed by the former deputy head of the department for internal policy of the presidential administration, Dmitry Badovsky. Since August 17, 2017, the publication has come under the control of the Expert Institute for Social Research, associated with the administration of the President of the Russian Federation under the leadership of Anton Vaino..."
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Взгляд_(интернет-га
      zeta)
  53. +2
    1 February 2018 17: 32
    Quote: free
    Who are we? It’s not those who sit in the thoughts and councils who sit in the thoughts and councils, but they were appointed by Putin himself. But we didn’t interfere, we believed and hoped and it turns out that it was in vain. And now it’s time to change the names.




    The Donbass people also didn’t bother anyone, they also believed and hoped, and it turns out that it was in vain...
    Now only Russia and Putin support them.
    Watch the entire clip, maybe it will become clear that it’s not the names, but the dimension of being itself that you want to change. Peace to war. But this is exactly what the enemies of Russia and the people are trying to achieve.
    1. +1
      5 February 2018 13: 23
      cool Putin supported them! very much ! It looks like you’ve never been there, so you’re writing all sorts of nonsense from the zombie box. ask that same Roman “banshee” what that support resulted in...
  54. 0
    7 February 2018 16: 51
    Quote: Mestny
    Quote: Gardamir
    By the way, not a single mutt answered why there are so many crooks in power and everything gets away with it?

    By the way, not a single mongrel of yours has answered why a communist billionaire is striving for power, and why he is not a swindler.

    And you, as opposed to OURS, give an example of one of YOURS -
    honest, not swindlers, in short, “white and fluffy”! wassat