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The Kremlin is afraid of Grudinina? It turns out that yes!

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An interesting overall situation. It creates the overall impression that in the Kremlin they were seriously alarmed. VCIOM polls are, of course, great, but here are a bunch of independent polls, including those from well-known bloggers, where Grudinin doesn’t have 8-10%, but much more, obviously, made many people think.




So what? Someone in the headquarters of Putin thought? Come on ... Everything is still on the thumb. The main thing - there is an administrative resource, and the possibility of its use.

I conclude: the command "to spread rot on all fronts" was given.

A start was made in Novosibirsk. Zyuganov made a statement in which he called the incident administrative arbitrariness. But the CEC of the Russian Federation has a different opinion.

CEC secretary Maya Grishina: “According to the information we have, the material was released by a fairly significant circulation (it says“ 400 thousand copies ”) without payment from the election fund and containing signs of election campaigning.”

So what is wrong with the bulletin? If you believe Grishina, the article of the bulletin contains information with a clear predominance of information about the candidate Grudinin in combination with positive comments, and the published program “Pavel Grudinin’s 20 Steps” is “perceived as an election program.

Well, come. And what should there be? The party (underline) informs about its candidate and its program. Not a word about campaigning, it was about the fact that for those interested, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation explained the information about the candidate and his program.

Well, why it was necessary to call names and scold Grudinina, is also not entirely clear.

Naturally, from the arrest of the circulation the whole show was arranged. You can not just come to the printing house, does not. It is necessary to attract as many people as possible who want to demonstrate their loyalty ...

So, the DPS officers stopped the car with the circulation, waiting for the moment when the car left the printing house “Soviet Siberia”. The circulation and its accompanying persons were taken to the Kirov regional police department. Explanations were taken from the escort, and the circulation was arrested.

As a blueprint, a similar “operation” took place in Buryatia. That only once again confirms what has been said about the team "Fas!"

Let's go further. Next we will have our media. The list is great, and, by the way, you can immediately tell who is independent and who is not.

Beautifully rushed, I will not say anything. Luxuriously. Amicably And most importantly, with fiction and twinkle. Grudinin was even credited with what he said not a word.

Grudinin, it turns out, justifies the use of labor of migrants by the experience of the West, refuses to disclose information about his transactions, justifies businessmen who keep money offshore, and from renting land received more money than strawberries.

And this, I note, our seemingly cultural capital. St. Petersburg. Motherland ... Oh, here, perhaps, I will keep silent. Homeland of many honest and cultured people, so let's say.

For example, Ksenia Sobchak.

Say, and what have Sobchak? Well, firstly, she was born in St. Petersburg, and secondly, oddly enough, she gets away with a lot.

Yuri Sidorov, a staff member of her staff, publishes an open appeal on Facebook, stating: the collection of signatures in support of Sobchak in Chuvashia was carried out with the help of the head of the republic Ignatiev.

And nothing, everyone is happy with everything.

But here everything is clear. As well as the role of Sobchak, which plays into the hands of Putin on the wave of its “popularity” among normal people, is understandable.

Or always losing Vladimir Volfovich. There is no threat to the main candidate, but, you see, Grudinina will slightly take away the votes.

Not rivals, but assistants can be much more than opponents. Because questions to Sobchak and Zhirinovsky does not arise. Everything is clear and so.

And Grudinin presents a certain threat. It is clear that not in this election. But the emergence of a candidate who has a vision of the alternative development of Russia, and, most importantly, the ability to work, is a threat.

The candidate of such a political cocktail as the left and the patriots, and, moreover, voicing what many residents of Russia are thinking about, is serious.

And this is not populism. A fair court, which will be on the side of the law, a citizen and society - we do not need it? Decent salary? Even if not free, but secondary and higher education in general, and not fiction in the form of slurred paper-diploma? Free medical care? The real thing again, not a fiction, after which you are welcome to private clinics where the same doctors work?

That is, Grudinin voiced the return of everything that was taken from us (and taken as a result) in the last 25 years.

Is this not a threat? Considering that all “made in the USSR” will not die out soon, this is a threat.

And “nationalization of strategically important and backbone industries, electric power industry, railways, communication systems, leading banks”? (Taken from 20-steps Grudinina.) Russia's withdrawal from the WTO? Suppression of the withdrawal of capital abroad?

This is already an attempt on the sacred by the comrade of the pre-farm. In the living beats.

And most importantly, Grudinin gives the impression of a person who is able to bring all this terrible dream of a modern Democrat to life.

And this is dangerous for the Kremlin. Well, the fact that he is believed, and his popularity is growing.

And if so, then, from the point of view of power, the candidate Grudinina must be pressed. Let even for this it is necessary to use dirty tricks. Lie down, izovrat, reinterpret the meaning of words.

This is already the norm for our country. Lying and twisting is a normal tool of political struggle, and of the struggle in general.

The only good news is that the clumsy execution of actions against Grudinin and the frank twisting of his words play into his hands.

For voters who are not Zyuganov’s supporters, an understanding of the mechanism of “raids” on Grudinin may be sufficient reason to cast your vote for him.

But for representatives of the movement against the existing government, all actions against Grudinin are a beacon in the night. Here he is, another opposition leader whom the authorities fear and harm him.

And how can you not remember Navalny? Who claimed that the authorities were afraid of him, but did the authorities simply brush him off the game board? And then - please, gentlemen, the opposition, not just yours, but with real opposition from the administrative resource.

A little, but I think they will. Those who are smarter, who realized that Navalny’s political career is over.

There is, however, another opinion. What is all this ups. And that the appearance of Grudinin is a subtle game of AP, the goal of which is to turn the election from one actor's theater into a seemingly normal show with real opposition. Some attempt to turn Grudinina into an attractive candidate for those who were going to actually boycott the elections as useless and empty.

But for me personally, the second opinion is somewhat doubtful. Too all clumsy is done. Whether in a hurry, or panic ...

I prefer to consider everything that happens in this way. And, accordingly, Pavel Grudinina is regarded as a person who may be able to stop the stupidity and spiritual impoverishment of the country in favor of the cunning plans of our oligarchs.

In general, there is something to fear the Kremlin is.
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  1. Firework
    Firework 26 January 2018 15: 03
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    sympathized with the communists until he was convinced of the helplessness of the present. with Grudinin it’s a nightmare at all - he bumped 7 billion rubles, this is in a country where the attitude to the nouveau riche is unambiguous! compare Lenin or Stalin with all the shortcomings, they did not seek personal enrichment
    1. Vard
      Vard 26 January 2018 15: 08
      29
      Democracy ... this is when you choose from whom they will offer you ... Great Russia ... but you can’t find a normal person for president ...
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 40
        +9
        Quote: Vard
        Democracy ... this is when you choose from whom they will offer you ... Great Russia ... but you can’t find a normal person for president ...

        Yes, all because only Putin will protect us from collapse and destruction ... a couple of hours ago I read an article here in VO about this .. That's why only Putin .. and normal people, in Russia, but no one just says that without he’s all over .. Putin is a pensioner, and the country we have old people, old people like their own .. such conservatives, that nothing changes, that everything is sweet .. little by little .. by the grain ... but this youth does not understand, we in old age is not necessary ..
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 January 2018 19: 20
          +8
          Quote: Petr1968
          Putin is a pensioner, and the country we have old people, old people like their own .. such conservatives, that nothing changes, that everything changes little by little .. quietly ... by the grain ... but this youth does not understand, we do not need this in old age

          tell me, how old are YOU and do you have any leadership experience, if before whom and how much ?!
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 26 January 2018 21: 03
            35
            do you have leadership experience
            Good question. the president of Russia can only be the president of Russia. Yes, they made fun.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 26 January 2018 21: 15
              +7
              Quote: Gardamir
              the president of Russia can only be the president of Russia. Yes, they made fun.

              in your understanding, "leadership experience" is only the president of the country?
          2. Siberian 1975
            Siberian 1975 27 January 2018 12: 08
            18
            And your beloved Putin had leadership experience when he came to power ?????
            1. onix757
              onix757 27 January 2018 12: 12
              14
              Yes, what kind of experience is it .. Well, apart from the experience of managing a cultural institution in the GDR
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 27 January 2018 13: 37
              14
              Shame on the Communist Party nominating a BILLIONAIRE who "earned" billions on the land, squeezed from the members of AO and selling it or renting it out.
              Worker or collective farmer, was not found in the party of "working people"? Or do they have so much money to pay for support, like Grudinin’s?
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 27 January 2018 15: 19
                +7
                Quote: Olgovich
                Shame on the Communist Party nominating Billionaire


                see from 2. 30
                1. Nikolai Grek
                  Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 02: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  Shame on the Communist Party nominating Billionaire


                  see from 2. 30

                  Mikheev - our boy !!! bully good good good
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 28 January 2018 07: 30
                    +2
                    yes, also Bagdasarov! Clearly and correctly explained. Here are just some do not want to listen
                    1. Nikolai Grek
                      Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 17: 17
                      +1
                      Quote: Overlock
                      yes, also Bagdasarov! Clearly and correctly explained. Here are just some do not want to listen

                      Bagdasarov is too noisy !!! fellow wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                      1. Overlock
                        Overlock 28 January 2018 19: 01
                        +2
                        emotional, southern
                2. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 28 January 2018 10: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Overlock
                  see from 2. 30

                  Looked: he didn’t say anything new request
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 28 January 2018 12: 05
                    +2
                    about the money. The poor will not fall into power
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    Worker or collective farmer, was not found in the party of "working people"?
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                2. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 28 January 2018 10: 01
                  +2
                  Quote: Sam
                  How much did the troll pay for the post?

                  Learn to write in RUSSIAN, ignoramus. lol
              3. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 28 January 2018 11: 15
                +4
                Worker or collective farmer, was not found in the party of "working people"? Or do they have so much money to pay for support, like Grudinin’s?

                Well, why do we need a blacksmith ?? we don’t need a blacksmith! (c) wassat we would have a cook ... winked we already passed it. What did the billionaire Grudinin not please you with? Until today, for some reason, there have been no complaints against him, but now so many offended have come out of his homeland.
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              5. Vladimir K
                Vladimir K 28 January 2018 20: 30
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                Listened to all the bullshit and broadcast. What billionaire is he? Ruble. And at the top we have dollar billionaires. There is a difference? He improved people's lives - is that bad? He did not drive his capital into offshore, although he could, he did not keep children abroad, although he could. So Olgovich no longer need to broadcast.
              6. Petr1968
                Petr1968 29 January 2018 13: 04
                +3
                Quote: Olgovich
                Shame on the Communist Party nominating a BILLIONAIRE who "earned" billions on the land, squeezed from the members of AO and selling it or renting it out.

                No, shame is Zyuganov, who sells his story to gullible grandmothers. Grudinin - well done. Although he will not be president, he will declare that we have more than one person in the country capable of fighting for power. More sternum and not 3 months before the election
              7. rumatam
                rumatam 30 January 2018 12: 25
                +1
                what's the difference in Moldova for you? *
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 08: 33
              +6
              Quote: Sibiryak 1975
              And your beloved Putin had leadership experience when he came to power ?????

              are you friends with your head ?!
              by age it seems like not a child, but by mind ....

              Since June 28, 1991, after the election of A. A. Sobchak as mayor, he has been the acting chairman, and since July 15, he has been chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations of the Leningrad City Hall

              In March 1994, he was appointed First Deputy Prime Minister of St. Petersburg, retaining the post of head of the Foreign Relations Committee

              In 1995 he headed the regional branch of the NDR party

              Since August 1996, Putin has been invited to work in Moscow as deputy managing director of the President of the Russian Federation, Pavel Borodin.

              May 25, 1998 was appointed First Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation

              Since July 25, 1998 - Director of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation

              On March 26, 1999 he was appointed Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, retaining the post of Director of the FSB

              On August 5, 1999, at a meeting with Putin, Yeltsin announced that he wanted to appoint him chairman of the Russian government
            4. Viking
              Viking 28 January 2018 11: 17
              +5
              Before Putin became Chairman of the Government, if anything, he was the head of the Presidential Administration and the Director of the FSB. If this is not a managerial position. If he was a poor leader, organizer, then this would be the pinnacle of his career.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 30 January 2018 00: 08
                +1
                How can you clearly explain everything, however. Upon reading it, it immediately dawned on me why Yeltsin made him a successor, he could not understand this before.
          3. voffchik7691
            voffchik7691 29 January 2018 15: 27
            +1
            Did DAM have experience in leading the country? He does not even have legal practice, he graduated from the university and teach ...
            1. SEER
              SEER 29 January 2018 15: 33
              +1
              Quote: voffchik7691
              Did DAM have experience in leading the country? He does not even have legal practice, he graduated from the university and teach ...

              why did they drag the iPhone? in the branch about GDP it was.
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 30 January 2018 00: 09
                +2
                Duck, this gentleman seemed to be our president. Or am I mistaken?
        2. INTER
          INTER 27 January 2018 21: 26
          +4
          Quote: Petr1968
          . That's why only Putin .. and normal people, the shaft in Russia,

          Maybe there is, but without the support of the siloviks, nobody is a golden-headed egg, and Putin has such a strength .... The USSR was destroyed not without the participation of the siloviki.
      2. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 26 January 2018 17: 57
        11
        How will anyone be offered this to you? Some position was patient, not the voter. We all within the law can offer their candidacy, and Grudinin, and Sobchak, and even Polonsky, God forgive me. Take and offer yourself, or at least offer yourself a candidate for everyone.
        Democracy is when, in principle, someone chooses someone or something from two or more options, you don’t even have to (for example, representative democracy or classical Athenian democracy, when about 15% of the population participated in the elections (adult citizens are only male gender, without slaves and meteks).
      3. PANTELEIMON
        PANTELEIMON 26 January 2018 18: 11
        +2
        Democracy is not “when,” but what! This is the first. And secondly, today, unlike the Stalinist regime, we have broad rights to elect and be elected! Practice confirms this. Now, both the gardener and the journalist are applying for the presidency! What did you want? Democracy is a state of the state and society in which several branches of government are created and broad rights are granted for the participation of members of the society in the formation of these branches, including the President. And what you said was practiced under the conditions of the Bolshevik-Stalin regime. Think about what you are talking and writing!
      4. Troll
        Troll 26 January 2018 19: 18
        +4
        choose from whom you will be offered
        Uh ... you choose from what they offer you, it’s on the market, in elections to the authorities, you choose from those who first of all want to work in power. And if there are few of them, then yes, the choice is small.
      5. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 27 January 2018 16: 23
        +6
        Quote: Vard
        Democracy ... this is when you choose from whom they will offer you ... Great Russia ... but you can’t find a normal person for president ...

        Normal is not even allowed near, cut off immediately. Yes, and normal will not climb into this stinking adder. But the narrow-mindedness, cretinism and deceitfulness of the ruling Kremlin codela is visible to the naked eye.
    2. New
      New 26 January 2018 15: 19
      61
      It seemed all over, complete hopelessness: the Cold War was unleashed against Russia, the total looting of the country, the complete indifference of the authorities. And now a new person comes into politics - Grudinin, I had hope and joy that the country has a future. Of course, the enemy is strong and it simply won’t give up power over the Russian people, but the Russian people haven’t done it with their finger, and we can say our word and confirm it with deed, if that.
      1. Vasya_Piterskiy
        Vasya_Piterskiy 26 January 2018 15: 34
        40
        In my humble opinion, put him in Medvedev's place if he is such a business executive. Even if he is engaged in internal business, he has no practical experience in foreign policy.
        1. myrzilka
          myrzilka 26 January 2018 15: 46
          +9
          This is what I would like
        2. Svetlana
          Svetlana 26 January 2018 16: 19
          32
          Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
          In my humble opinion, put him in Medvedev's place if he is such a business executive. Even if he is engaged in internal business, he has no practical experience in foreign policy.

          What did Putin have? Who did you have? And who already has, are the achievements great?
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 31
            +7
            Svetlana How will your life change when your candidate wins in a parallel universe?)
            1. free
              free 26 January 2018 22: 12
              18
              Quote: c-Petrov
              Svetlana How will your life change when your candidate wins in a parallel universe?)

              Do you understand the government satisfied?
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 27 January 2018 01: 13
                19
                Do you understand the government satisfied?

                I am dissatisfied with the pan-head. this is not an insult. it is a designation of the caste of believers in a good government and its seekers. they believe in the eradication of corruption and in the right of the individual who will bend the state. Believe in AntiPutin =]

                they are looking for those who will reduce their taxes, who will raise their salaries, who will lead to a free and professional doctor and give him free housing. and I want to supplement it with a 2% loan

                seekers want gas at 3 rubles each, high-quality, but cheap cheese - and the security they have now.

                and they are ready to break what is - believing in a bright dream. it's not good. patriotic. and generally speaking

                Ukrainians could not defeat this bliss. they did not go to work, did not improve their lives - but decided that it should be improved by the Bright President, a businessman who himself made money, which means he will help them.

                In general, believe me - from the change of sitting on a throne in the Kremlin - your position will not be higher.

                The course will not be at 30 rubles. And if there is, then there will be no production.
                Roads will not be built - if you are not taxed - Russia is a logistic pit.
                And a bunch of reasons why everything is as it is.

                And it’s funny to me that someone like you says - everything in our country is like that, because Medvedev

                Ask for political asylum - they will let you eat for oppression by the regime of totalitarianism. You won’t even have to work like in such a country with such a government ..

                But I don’t want the saucepan to get together and start to stagger. Reel the pipe in your house.
                1. nadezhiva
                  nadezhiva 27 January 2018 10: 33
                  12
                  They say that from your own experience you can learn everything. As life shows - and in its own way for some it is unrealistic. This generation has destroyed the Union. And learned nothing. From the word at all. Had free education / housing / medicine. Not enough 200 varieties of sausages on the shelves. Now, instead of 200 varieties of sausages, hotelok even more. And the mind is even less. Sad
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 02: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: nadezhiva
                    They say that from your own experience you can learn everything. As life shows - and in its own way for some it is unrealistic. This generation has destroyed the Union. And learned nothing. From the word at all. Had free education / housing / medicine. Not enough 200 varieties of sausages on the shelves. Now, instead of 200 varieties of sausages, hotelok even more. And the mind is even less. Sad

                    here the fact is that the slurred Lafas, which surged after the collapse of the Union, now want it back !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
                2. Sam
                  Sam 27 January 2018 20: 47
                  +9
                  Just pan-and-leg are Zaputinians!
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 28 January 2018 01: 16
                    +4
                    you live in a parallel universe, man.

                    look better for a golden loaf of yanukovych.
                3. free
                  free 28 January 2018 08: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: c-Petrov
                  Do you understand the government satisfied?

                  I am dissatisfied with the pan-head. this is not an insult. it is a designation of the caste of believers in a good government and its seekers. they believe in the eradication of corruption and in the right of the individual who will bend the state. Believe in AntiPutin =]

                  they are looking for those who will reduce their taxes, who will raise their salaries, who will lead to a free and professional doctor and give him free housing. and I want to supplement it with a 2% loan

                  seekers want gas at 3 rubles each, high-quality, but cheap cheese - and the security they have now.

                  and they are ready to break what is - believing in a bright dream. it's not good. patriotic. and generally speaking

                  Ukrainians could not defeat this bliss. they did not go to work, did not improve their lives - but decided that it should be improved by the Bright President, a businessman who himself made money, which means he will help them.

                  In general, believe me - from the change of sitting on a throne in the Kremlin - your position will not be higher.

                  The course will not be at 30 rubles. And if there is, then there will be no production.
                  Roads will not be built - if you are not taxed - Russia is a logistic pit.
                  And a bunch of reasons why everything is as it is.

                  And it’s funny to me that someone like you says - everything in our country is like that, because Medvedev

                  Ask for political asylum - they will let you eat for oppression by the regime of totalitarianism. You won’t even have to work like in such a country with such a government ..

                  But I don’t want the saucepan to get together and start to stagger. Reel the pipe in your house.

                  I have something to answer you, but first say yes or no, are you satisfied with the government? Only yes or no!
                  1. St Petrov
                    St Petrov 28 January 2018 13: 09
                    +4
                    I'm not thrilled - but it suits me. I can even explain what suits you. I did not like what was before this government.

                    Rather, I was terrified. When 7 famous "businessmen" were in control of the country.
                    You must have forgotten?
                    1. free
                      free 29 January 2018 10: 13
                      +1
                      Quote: c-Petrov
                      I'm not thrilled - but it suits me. I can even explain what suits you. I did not like what was before this government.

                      Rather, I was terrified. When 7 famous "businessmen" were in control of the country.
                      You must have forgotten?

                      Well, what about the government sabotaging Putin’s decrees? Are you for Putin, or for the government?
        3. dvvv
          dvvv 26 January 2018 16: 47
          66
          I wonder who Medvedev put in this place and why? Has he himself made his way there imperceptibly from the great Pu? Maybe he is sitting there because Pu is very happy with everything, like Gref, Nabibulin, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov and other camadrilla. Who prevented the sun-sized one from picking up the necessary personnel in the government and asking for the execution of decrees, for deeds? What is missing ? And ... one more term is missing, before that he saved the country from plunder and from external enemies! There are more external ones, the country has been sacked, but now, having learned this business well in 18 years, he will do everything and will surely succeed! So he threw himself into the hole to make it better, and after that he was enlightened from the Tu-160 to make a civilian version ... for sheikhs ... these are his skills that appeared in 18 years and after overcooling in the hole. Look forward to new successes and victories in foreign policy from the sun!
          1. yehat
            yehat 26 January 2018 17: 08
            25
            You proceed from the false promise that Putin can decide everything himself. This is not so and has never been so. He is bound by little-known agreements with the "elite" in domestic politics, and much freer in foreign ones. The same Medvedev is a clearly imposed figure. It is stupidly useless.
            1. Korax71
              Korax71 26 January 2018 17: 58
              16
              Oh, this is your conspiracy theories and secret conspiracies. Somehow the excuse looks rotten, about something that he didn’t know, couldn’t, wasn’t guilty, imposed. It’s like the boss should be responsible for his subordinates, just as his subordinates should be responsible to the authorities for shoals. and attempts at justification from the outside look like Stockholm syndrome, when the victim is imbued with an unearthly love for his boss.
              1. vm-bt
                vm-bt 26 January 2018 19: 05
                10
                Do you know that even in "monolithic" China there are several competing elite groups? At a minimum - the "Shanghaiers" and the "Komsomol", the "princes" and the "military" (maybe someone forgot?). There, if you were interested, you know that there are constant movements, reformatting of alliances, bloodless and not very much politicians of 2-3 ranks.
                What kind of conspiracy theology is there.
                Even in a small firm, and that will be full of politics, and all sorts of political games. And here 1/7 of the earth’s firmament and 1/4 of all the reserves of the planet.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 31 January 2018 13: 52
                  0
                  Quote: vm-bt
                  What kind of conspiracy theology is there.
                  Even in a small firm, and that will be full of politics, and all sorts of political games. And here 1/7 of the earth’s firmament and 1/4 of all the reserves of the planet.
                  -
                  as well as in the USSR - the Trotskyists, a little later - “And Shelepin joined them” and further, further, further ..
                  The all-powerful Stalin seems to be (1937) and the battles under the carpet of the military (although the entire mass of the military was already cleared during the "Spring" of 1935)
                  A meeting of the Military Council with the participation of invited comrades of commanders and political workers on June 2, 1937 (Morning meeting):
                  “Take Ukraine. I commanded the 14th Cavalry Division there, and therefore I will allow myself to speak of cavalry. Cavalry is not united in Ukraine. Is there chervonets, as if their own organization, where they’re not letting anyone in.
                  Budyonny. Ukrainian.
                  Petrovsky. Yes Yes. there is Kotovtsy and there were Kotovtsy, and there are budennovtsy. I came to Ukraine in the 14 division like a Budyonnovsky and felt disgusting. Comrade Voroshilov knows my anti-cavalry mood, not in the sense that I do not like cavalry ...
                  Stalin. It is unprofitable for the Budennovites.
                  Petrovsky. I am a Budyonnovts, and so on. Budyonny considers me a Budyonnovts.
                  Stalin. In Ukraine, it is unprofitable to be a Budyonnovts.
                  Petrovsky. Quite right, unprofitable. I came to Yakir and told him: “Iona Emanuelovich, you can’t work like that anymore, the cavalry is divided into 3 different groups, which are at war with each other and which are set against each other. ” After a while me managed to get away from cavalry to the Moscow Proletarian Division, and I did not finish this matter to the end. It's my fault. "
                  Stalin is aware of the conflict, Stalin knows that the conflict is long-standing. However, nothing can be done about this and the Red Army exists three competing groups -warring between themselves .
                  And it seems so simple - call the top of the Kotovtsi on the carpet and into the basement .. But it doesn’t come out right away, it doesn’t hurt Stalin ..
                  then they shot, of course - but this is just one small conflict in the division of power, not even in the entire army - which, in principle, did not set up a dividing of dough between these groups
              2. yehat
                yehat 29 January 2018 12: 32
                +1
                yes what nafig conspiracies. there simply should not be illusions.
                There is no other way to explain the difference in the effectiveness of foreign and domestic policy.
                I want to remind you that Putin at the FSB Academy studied in detail the state system and administration, and he doesn’t do anything like dumb blunders out of ignorance.
                Nevertheless, in domestic politics, much is either lost or sad. Because factors are not yet taken into account.
            2. Freeman
              Freeman 27 January 2018 01: 29
              25
              Quote: yehat
              You proceed from the false promise that Putin can decide everything himself. This is not so and has never been so. He is shackled by little-known agreements with the "elite" in domestic politics., and much freer in the outside. The same Medvedev is a clearly imposed figure. It is stupidly useless.

              Well, why do we need a president bound by a “treaty with the elite,” and not with the people?
              1. yehat
                yehat 29 January 2018 12: 19
                +3
                to protect the legitimacy of the robbery of the country by the "elite".
            3. jrvp79
              jrvp79 2 February 2018 19: 31
              +1
              Is Putin not useless? All of them are one gang. All are Masons and traitors !!
          2. Tibidokh
            Tibidokh 26 January 2018 17: 11
            45
            Quote: dvvv
            from Tu-160 to make a civilian version ... for sheikhs

            The light went up, the gas went up, the diesel went up ...
            And so, they announced plans to create a supersonic passenger liner.
            As they say, happiness came from where you did not expect! fellow
            1. vm-bt
              vm-bt 26 January 2018 19: 21
              +5
              Long-range Tupolev bombers often had their civilian versions. This was done, inter alia, to reduce the cost of production. In particular, the first TU-104 long-range passenger airliner liner == TU-16 long-range bomber, TU-114 long-range liner == TU-95 strategic bomber. If the same feint succeeds with the TU160, it will be interesting.
              Another thing is that doubts gnaw ... Very different performance characteristics.
          3. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 02: 47
            +2
            Quote: dvvv
            I wonder who Medvedev put in this place and why? Has he himself made his way there imperceptibly from the great Pu? Maybe he is sitting there because Pu is very happy with everything, like Gref, Nabibulin, Dvorkovich, Shuvalov and other camadrilla. Who prevented the sun-sized one from picking up the necessary personnel in the government and asking for the execution of decrees, for deeds? What is missing ? And ... one more term is missing, before that he saved the country from plunder and from external enemies! There are more external ones, the country has been sacked, but now, having learned this business well in 18 years, he will do everything and will surely succeed! So he threw himself into the hole to make it better, and after that he was enlightened from the Tu-160 to make a civilian version ... for sheikhs ... these are his skills that appeared in 18 years and after overcooling in the hole. Look forward to new successes and victories in foreign policy from the sun!

            finally, no matter how it relates to Medvedev, and in the previous fall in oil prices (not exactly the primary reason, but also played an important role, along with economic mediocrity in the leadership), we lost the USSR !!! request request request so, there’s still a need to look, maybe the Medvedev government conducted an extremely effective policy in times of crisis !!! wassat wassat request request request
            1. Bosch
              Bosch 28 January 2018 14: 41
              +1
              Yeah, effective, nowhere else to go!
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 17: 19
                +4
                Quote: Bosch
                Yeah, effective, nowhere else to go!

                scratching your tongue - you don’t have to mind a lot ... I think that in the event of a crisis, you would move the country to the “greatest” prosperity !!! wassat wassat wink wink wink
            2. dvvv
              dvvv 28 January 2018 18: 20
              0
              it looks like you have a very low social responsibility ...
        4. alexhol
          alexhol 26 January 2018 17: 34
          17
          Do you think that the foreign policy of the current president is successful ???
          1. vm-bt
            vm-bt 26 January 2018 19: 33
            14
            Personally, I have heard high assessments of the President’s foreign policy from the lips of foreigners - Chinese, Iranians, Serbs and Turks.
            And, you know, by common sense, perhaps they are right. The GDP of all living politicians is unambiguously replayed in global chess.
            This is the first time since the Great Three - Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt ...
            1. alexhol
              alexhol 27 January 2018 16: 06
              +8
              ABOUT! Do you know Chinese, Turkish and even Farsi? winked Interestingly, what criteria do they use in a qualitative assessment of the success of the Russian leadership? Even if we, Belarusians, succeeded in “shrimp fishing” amid the sanctions, how did Russia's foreign policy affect the representative of Serbia? laughing And Comrade Stalin "squeezed" East Prussia (feel the difference: Germany and Ukraine) did not receive any sanctions and took out half of East Germany (and when Belarus suddenly became the "assembly shop" of the Union) So this is a success.
        5. Yngvar
          Yngvar 26 January 2018 19: 29
          21
          So to "put Medvedev in place" Grudinin and we must vote for him! Having collected 30 percent for Grudinin, Putin will be forced to change the iPhone ... Well, as for the elections you yourself understand - vote do not vote anyway you will get ... Putin! They will count as always "correctly."
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 02: 51
            +3
            Quote: Yngvar
            So to "put Medvedev in place" Grudinin and we must vote for him! Having collected 30 percent for Grudinin, Putin will be forced to change the iPhone ... Well, as for the elections you yourself understand - vote do not vote anyway you will get ... Putin! They will count as always "correctly."

            recourse recourse recourse Have you ever read Grudinin’s program ???? what what wassat wassat wassat lol lol lol
            1. SEER
              SEER 29 January 2018 05: 34
              +2
              Quote: Nikolai Grek
              Have you ever read Grudinin’s program ???? what what wassat wassat wassat lol lol lol
              how to read something that is not in nature? lol
              his "20 steps ..." does not offer, more honestly read the materials of his criminal case ...
              1. Nikolai Grek
                Nikolai Grek 29 January 2018 17: 24
                +2
                Quote: SEER
                how to read something that is not in nature?

                how not ?? recourse recourse there is .. for all the good, against all the bad !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing the only ones he left unattended are legEbEtE !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol
                1. SEER
                  SEER 29 January 2018 17: 32
                  +3
                  Quote: Nikolai Grek

                  how not ?? recourse recourse there is .. for all the good, against all the bad !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing the only ones he left unattended are legEbEtE !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol

                  not a program but some kind of toast laughing
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 29 January 2018 17: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: SEER
                    Quote: Nikolai Grek

                    how not ?? recourse recourse there is .. for all the good, against all the bad !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing the only ones he left unattended are legEbEtE !!! wassat wassat lol lol lol

                    not a program but some kind of toast laughing

                    the difference is that there will be nothing from the toast to the economy, but with such a "great communist", we can sip sorrow !!! laughing laughing laughing
        6. shura7782
          shura7782 26 January 2018 19: 57
          22
          in foreign policy, he has no practical experience. ,
          And did GDP have a very rich experience before the first election?
          Maybe presidential candidates are preparing a special university?
          For this, presidents have advisers.
          Putin pays the Dimon for his loyalty, not for efficiency. Therefore, he sits on w ... straight. GDP of uninvited guests can easily be removed from office and honored. Examples are already available. Therefore, your option (Grudinin - Premier) is as if real and desired, but not safe for Grudinin.
          1. Graz
            Graz 27 January 2018 08: 08
            +1
            Putin had experience in foreign policy, he was a resident of the KGB in Germany
            1. shura7782
              shura7782 27 January 2018 08: 56
              17
              Quote: Graz
              Putin had experience in foreign policy, he was a resident of the KGB in Germany

              You are clearly idealizing him in this matter of foreign policy. In fact, he was a technical worker there, in strict terms, and carried out orders from his superiors. At that time, others were engaged in foreign policy.
            2. Bosch
              Bosch 28 January 2018 14: 43
              +1
              Oh, don’t make my slippers laugh.
            3. jrvp79
              jrvp79 2 February 2018 19: 39
              +1
              This was a real experience, but the current DOUBLE has nothing !! He doesn’t even know how real WWII !!!
        7. PFT
          PFT 27 January 2018 07: 42
          10
          Which boss will tolerate that the subordinate is SMARTER than him, remember all the prime ministers of Putin and everything falls into place.
        8. Alexander Golubev
          Alexander Golubev 27 January 2018 12: 14
          24
          After the first term, Putin became the prime minister, but what has changed for the common people? Not a damn thing! Fat cats. how fat. and get fat. and ordinary people, as they survived, survive as well as they can. It's not about the person. and to whom is the person serving. Putin serves large private capital, not ordinary people. Yes. Putin made Russia strong for enemies, but in the name of what? For our oligarchs. nouveau riche and the like, Russia, that is for a pig’s trough, therefore, the trough needs to be protected from pigs of the neighboring pigsty. The simple people of Russia need SOCIAL JUSTICE, not the power of fat pigs.
        9. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 02: 37
          +2
          Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
          In my humble opinion, put him in Medvedev's place if he is such a business executive. Even if he is engaged in internal business, he has no practical experience in foreign policy.

          what what judging by his "magnificent" program, he will ruin the economy at a time !! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
        10. Viking
          Viking 28 January 2018 11: 25
          +5
          And why is he a "good manager"? If his ZAO “state farm” somewhere in the Kaluga or Sverdlovsk region and would bring awesome profits - then we can say that a good business executive. And having land near the Moscow Ring Road and handing it over for awesome money is not exactly what you earn from production.
          in the same company, he did not manage to squeeze out the sucks, the courts are still going. Honest is ours.

          Grudinin forgets to tell how out of 526 shareholders of his enterprise in 1995, by the beginning of 2018, only 40 remained.

          Since 2006, Grudinin has been a suspect in several criminal cases initiated by the investigative department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the Leninsky District of the Moscow Region.

          In June 1996, criminal case No. 84128 was instituted against Pavel Grudinin under Part 1 of Art. 327 of the Criminal Code ("Forgery of a certificate or other official document"). However, on August 16, 2010, the case against Pavel Grudinin was dismissed due to the expiration of the statute of limitations for criminal prosecution.
          1. Sergey Horuzhik
            Sergey Horuzhik 29 January 2018 14: 34
            +3

            proletarian Grudinin
        11. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 28 January 2018 11: 26
          +1
          Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
          In my humble opinion, put him in Medvedev's place if he is such a business executive. Even if he is engaged in internal business, he has no practical experience in foreign policy.


          don't be shy wink many sober-minded people think so ... all the more so under Putin would have gained enormous experience, including not making sudden movements. For example, in the field of nationalization, it is unlikely that it will happen immediately. But gradually, economic leverage, including through progressive taxes, can lead to the desired result.
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 26 January 2018 15: 40
        33
        Quote: New
        but the Russian people are not done with a finger, and we can say our word and confirm it with deed, if that.

        Our people are invented good
        1. Loess
          Loess 26 January 2018 16: 23
          16
          I saw the same with the inscription: "For Navalny." And also with an exclamation mark at the end.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 27
            24
            they are going to power on one front. And ahead Khodorkovsky with Zyuganov and Grudinin carry the flag of socialism soldier

            The hamsters of Navalny are stomped next - with which they explained that against the director of the farm there is no need to drown - they have one goal

            Well, then extras from the gifted users of VO laughing funny guys, like adults, and believe in fairy tales. What can’t you do when Putin does not let live urine

            We need to look for what sternum for foreign policy gutara. About Syria and Ukraine. There are enough adherents here - what is your idol saying about the board there?

            Make peace with everyone?)

            It's time for Shevchuk to shoot a video - how he supports Grudinin. Khodorkovsky should have been given to him by the Central Administration

            1. St Petrov
              St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 39
              +7
              time to get out. Change surname from X to G and shoot video on the background of the Kremlin wall

            2. SOF
              SOF 26 January 2018 17: 42
              +8
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              We need to look for what sternum for foreign policy gutara. About Syria and Ukraine.

              ... so it’s known that he is eating. At 60 minutes, one unique from urkaina stated roughly the following: “Even one of your presidential candidates said that the problems of Donbass are entirely the problems of Ukrainians” ... like that.
              When he was pinned to the wall by a question whose saying this is .... then began to bustle ... everyone naturally expected that it would degenerate something like Ksyushadi, but no !!!! Somehow they untwisted, it turns out Pal Nikolaitch ...
              How interesting. I’ve already added.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 26 January 2018 17: 53
                36
                Quote: SOF
                when he was pinned to the wall by the question whose dictum, then .... he began to curse ... everyone naturally expected that it would degenerate something like Ksyushadi, but no !!!! Somehow they untwisted, it turns out Pal Nikolaitch ...

                Stop fussing! You need only facts ...

                Quote: SOF
                How interesting. I’ve already added.

                Baldey further))) wassat
                1. SOF
                  SOF 26 January 2018 18: 17
                  +5
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Baldey further)))

                  ... you know, “dear”, now I’m drinking beer, not to yours, to Trolebotsky (fuck, it’s necessary to fall to such a slag in Russian) of a person, but I will find a clipping from this program and personally post it to you.
                  ... coming?
                  1. Romey
                    Romey 26 January 2018 18: 23
                    16
                    Look forward to. Good luck in hard business. laughing
                  2. Freeman
                    Freeman 27 January 2018 01: 59
                    20
                    Quote: SOF
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Baldey further)))

                    ... you know, “dear”, now I’m drinking beer, not to yours, to Trolebotsky (fuck, it’s necessary to fall to such a slag in Russian) of a person, but I will find a clipping from this program and personally post it to you.
                    ... coming?

                    And now we read what Grudinin said, and not just spun "expaird"
                    - And what, in your opinion, will be with the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics?

                    - Of course, the Minsk agreements played an important role in ending the genocide of the population of these republics. But the fighting there continues, albeit not with so many casualties among the civilian population. Bandera shortcomings daily bombard cities and villages of the DPR and LPR, as a result of which ordinary people suffer and die. The Minsk agreements turned into a kind of screen for the preparation of a forceful solution to the "problems of New Russia".

                    I am convinced that Russia, in view of the frank sabotage by Kiev of these agreements, should take the next logical step: recognize the will of the people expressed in referenda in 2014 and recognize the independence of these republics.

                    And then you can not keep the population of the LPR and the DPR in limbo. Recall that initially the Donbass is a purely Russian region. He, along with Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, was transferred to the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic by a decree of the Council of People's Commissars to strengthen the industrial power of the then rural Ukraine. Therefore, if the population of Donbass (mainly Russian) shows a will to return to Russia, then we must seriously consider this possibility. If we took Crimea into Russia, it would be natural to satisfy the desire of the population of Donbass to return to Russia.

                    http://sovross.ru/articles/1647/37509/comments/2#
                    comments
                    1. sapporo1959
                      sapporo1959 27 January 2018 10: 41
                      13
                      What time! After all, the schoolgirls wrote that he kind of wants to give everything along with the Crimea. It turns out that either the schoolgirls didn’t read there, or didn’t read at all, but simply wrote as the party ordered?
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 27 January 2018 12: 13
                      +9
                      Quote: Freeman
                      And now we read what Grudinin said, and not just spun "expaird"

                      Thanks for the comment, Colleague! hi drinks 100500
                      1. _person_
                        _person_ 17 February 2018 13: 26
                        0
                        I still couldn’t get my hands on it, I apologize in advance for the late excitement of the topic, but as an important issue I will express my opinion on this matter.

                        Here several people expressed more likely their intuitive perception voiced by P.N. Grudinin. So, for example, below the comrade wrote the following:

                        Proof of? Yes, you watch his performances and just analyze his answers ...
                        His theses: 1) pass the Donbas, 2) return the Crimea 3) push the rolls in front of the overseas owners ...
                        Just listen to him mumble on TV and everything will become clear ...
                        He is a Trojan horse slipped by our enemies, to destroy the people of Russia ....


                        And the perception, although intuitive, but unfortunately, is more likely to be true. Yes, people could not give adequate quotes, in support of their feelings from what they heard. But the whole paradox is that their opponents did it, quoting P.N. Grudinin.

                        But here it’s not even a matter of quotes, but of the ability to hear and think about what was announced by one of the presidential candidates and what remained in defaults.
                        At one time, we had a talker M.S. Gorbachev - people also liked a lot of what was announced, but in the defaults there were real processes, the sad consequences of the implementation of which we both know and disentangle until now.

                        In fact, what PN Grudinin says from one interview to another when it comes to the Donbass:
                        1. At the Minsk agreements it is necessary to put an end to, because You see, Ukraine doesn’t execute them, they are supposedly discredited.

                        What does this mean in practice? "Just" surrendering the state interests of Russia and the Ukrainian population, betraying and destroying all the achievements that were achieved by our diplomats and personally by the President of the Russian Federation in the course of the unprecedentedly difficult and necessary international negotiation process necessary to reduce the bloody conflict in Ukraine.
                        And these are not empty words!

                        Our diplomats succeeded in dragging into the UN (!!!) a resolution that gave international agreements to these agreements, objectively disadvantageous to Western puppeteers and puppets in Ukraine. Now this bone in the throat of our "Western partners" is very much in the way, significantly narrowing the space and the room for maneuver of war criminals in Ukraine.
                        Therefore, the only thing left for them now to do is try to put the situation in the information field so that Russia is supposedly a party (not to be confused with the guarantor) of these agreements, and impose new sanctions on us under yet another ridiculous and illegitimate pretext.
                        But this is a shot in the foot, the United States and the West as a whole are ruining the international system that they have been building for so long in order to subjugate all other pax-American states.

                        And what is the ideal variant for the West: Russia (the guarantor!) SAMA will refuse to implement the Minsk agreements, such as they have discredited themselves, they are impracticable and blah blah in the same vein. Ingenious!
                        I have a question for P.N.

                        2. "It is necessary to realize the right of Donbass to a referendum on secession from Ukraine and joining Russia" - he did not verbatim repeat the words of PN Grudinin, but the meaning was conveyed correctly in general.

                        In the limit, the following is proposed: Donbass will leave Russia, Ukraine will finally lose its statehood and cease to exist as a state, and its remnants will be "absorbed" into Romania, Hungary, Poland - that is, in fact, the already hackneyed scenario is proposed, voiced once or twice by the LDPR leader V.V. Zhirinovsky, or rather by the elite groups in whose interests the LDPR works.
                        Those. and these guys fit into the support of the “popular candidate”, albeit non-publicly, but PN Grudinin promises to pursue the same policy.

                        I regard this proposal as the same betrayal of the interests of Russia and Ukraine. Ukraine is an integral part of the Russian world, yes, sick, yes, looted, but these are our people, not much different from us, the orange revolutions are just a technology that relies on poorly educated people with low morality, which are enough, including . and in modern Russia. Therefore, “take everything and share” or cut off from Ukraine a part of the territory inhabited by people with predominantly adequate psyche, capable of reconfiguring this state into a friendly, neutral, independent crime.

                        Why on earth should the Russian world give out its territories to the West (remember "Ivan Vasilievich is changing his profession")?

                        Moreover, the war in the Donbass in this case will never stop, because Bandera will be grown already on the fragments of the formerly Ukraine and will receive additional ideological support as "unjustly deprived" people who have "taken their homeland", "forcibly deprived of the opportunity to build a bright future."

                        Do we want this? Me not.
                        Does Pavel Nikolaevich understand this? Judging by his rhetoric - no, he doesn’t understand. Either he understands, but (perhaps compelledly) fulfills the obligations made to the clans that provide him with active support in this presidential election campaign and work for this scenario, objectively beneficial to the Kiev criminal regime (all sins for the genocide of the population and the murdered economy and state will be attributed to the "aggressor") and profitable to Western puppeteers. But not Russia at all.

                        3. Thank God, at least to the question “Our Crimea?”, P. N. Grudinin answers, as it seemed to me, somewhat condescendingly “Our!)”
                        He understands the headquarters of Pavel Nikolayevich that the historical return of Crimea home and the clear merit of the current president of Russia, and any mention of this only adds points to GDP, but to say anything else is political suicide in modern Russia.

                        Does P.N. Grudinin understand at the same time that the implementation of paragraphs 1-2 (above) is highly likely to draw both Crimea and Russia into the hot phase of the war, for the reasons that I set out above? And that “Our Crimea” in this aspect can cease to be the object of national pride of the Russian population, but can it really be jeopardized by the next surrender of the peninsula to Western “friends”?
                2. ds269
                  ds269 26 January 2018 22: 48
                  14
                  Well done!!!!!!! the only way bots need to prove !!!!!
                3. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 17
                  +7
                  For me, the fact that this candidate Grudinin is for suckers is a complete divorce.
              2. udincev
                udincev 26 January 2018 21: 37
                +2
                Quote: SOF
                ... so it’s known that he is eating. At "60 minutes," one unique from urkaina stated roughly verbatim the following: "Even one of your presidential candidates said that the problems ...

                The ways of information are inscrutable ...
              3. myrzilka
                myrzilka 26 January 2018 22: 32
                +4
                Do you still believe the Ukrainian "political experts" who graze here on salaries? Oh may wei, even Russian salaries are smarter and not more convincing.
                1. Freeman
                  Freeman 27 January 2018 01: 51
                  12
                  Quote: myrzilka
                  Do you still believe the Ukrainian "political experts" who graze here on salaries? Oh may wei, even Russian salaries are smarter and not more convincing.

                  That's right.
            3. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 26 January 2018 18: 03
              11
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              they are going to power on one front. And ahead Khodorkovsky with Zyuganov and Grudinin carry the flag of socialism

              probably something like this should look like a heroin ward belay
              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 26 January 2018 18: 09
                +7
                probably something like this should look like a heroin ward


                laughing This is what the modern Communist Party looks like. We must keep up to date.

                Although in this party, since the time of Yukos, they have been extinct since 96.
            4. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 28 January 2018 03: 01
              +1
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              We need to look for what sternum for foreign policy gutara. About Syria and Ukraine. There are enough adherents here - what is your idol saying about the board there?

              the same demagogy as in his "super-economic" program !!! wassat wassat wassat



            5. Sergey Horuzhik
              Sergey Horuzhik 29 January 2018 14: 35
              +5

              Want to become a billionaire? Ask me how!
          2. Mestny
            Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 30
            0
            So the authors are the same.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 26 January 2018 18: 07
              20
              Here is a link to the original article by Pal Nikolaitch, read and be enlightened!
              http://kprf-kchr.ru/?q=node/12243
      3. seos
        seos 26 January 2018 16: 07
        +4
        It is he who is the main weapon of the Cold War, as before Yeltsin ...
      4. Petr1968
        Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 41
        +9
        Quote: New
        total plunder of the country, complete indifference of power.

        What country do you live in? In mine we become strong and rich.
        1. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 26 January 2018 17: 13
          30
          We have two countries ... one of them is Moscow.
          1. Yngvar
            Yngvar 26 January 2018 21: 23
            +8
            I agree! Muscovy and Zamkadysh ... That's why in Muscovy it becomes a little tight ...
            1. Tibidokh
              Tibidokh 27 January 2018 08: 16
              +4
              Quote: Yngvar
              and in Muscovy it’s getting a little tight

              The liberals led by the State Department of the SGA are to blame for everything!
        2. free
          free 26 January 2018 22: 16
          +8
          Quote: Petr1968
          Quote: New
          total plunder of the country, complete indifference of power.

          What country do you live in? In mine we become strong and rich.

          And what are you in?
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 30 January 2018 06: 19
            +2
            He probably broadcasts from Cyprus, though he forgot that even though there are many Russians, Cyprus is not yet part of Russia. wassat
        3. myrzilka
          myrzilka 26 January 2018 22: 42
          24
          In your country, you can become a boache. That's just everything in Russia, with the exact opposite. Example, if four to five years ago people came to my wife to work and paid with money and debit cards, now 70% are paid by credit cards. These are mainly bank cards from Tinkoff. Interest, you know what. If people with money had everything normal, not one (in their right mind) would pay for a service of 3000 rubles with a credit card. But you, I think, are an adherent of the sect of the blessed Medvedev government and the central bank, and how Dvorkovich believe that we do not have oligarchs. Accept regrets.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 19
            +5
            Along the way, either not healthy or greedy began to walk towards you.
            1. myrzilka
              myrzilka 27 January 2018 00: 41
              +5
              And healthy, then without polls?
          2. savage1976
            savage1976 27 January 2018 05: 31
            +3
            You just don’t know how to count money, I also pay with a credit card everywhere. We take a credit card and go buy products, goods and services, have a graysperiod from 60 to 120 days without any%, and put our earned money into a bank account at 5-7% per annum. By the time the grasperiod is over, we close the credit card debt, and we keep the interest ourselves and all over again, we live on the credit card for 2-4 months, and our money brings us% of income.
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 27 January 2018 11: 25
              +7
              Quote: savage1976
              You just don’t know how to count money, I also pay with a credit card everywhere. We take a credit card and go buy products, goods and services, we have a graysperiod from 60 to 120 days without any%, and put our earned money into a bank account at 5-7% per annum. By the time the grasperiod is over, we close the credit card debt, and we keep the interest ourselves and all over again, we live on the credit card for 2-4 months, and our money brings us% of income.

              Excuse me, what bank is such an “unprecedented attraction of generosity”?
              VTB 24 is trying to get me a credit card here, only there is a maximum interest-free period of 50 days.
              1. savage1976
                savage1976 30 January 2018 18: 28
                0
                I hope they won’t count for advertising. Russian Post Grace Period 120 days, Tinkoff 90 days. Yes, even 50 days allows you to receive a monthly percentage. penny ruble saves.
            2. myrzilka
              myrzilka 27 January 2018 11: 29
              +5
              Well, I don’t know how ((((But you don’t do it practical either. Well, firstly, the grace period is not the billing period. Do you know the difference? Now it’s small, not to go beyond the billing period. This is the first moment. The second moment. Money under interest is 5-7 per annum. It’s also good, but one thing! Real inflation for the year is 7-8%. Do not listen to Rosstat, especially in the morning. So your honestly earned money either does not grow or depreciate. Then pay money for using a credit card Moreover, the money doesn’t work on it, it doesn’t grow even without% growth. And that means you get this money out of the budget. Money is not very big, but still money. And, most importantly, you need to return the money taken from a credit card! you don’t always take them? And you have to return them, according to the law of meanness, exactly when they are really needed. And you get a vicious circle. At the same time, inflation eats up your usual money. But you should get out of the calculation period and get 25-27%. Plus, withdrawing cash from a credit card at an ATM, this is also accent Congratulations, your economy exactly matches the economy of our government!
              I have a Soviet economy. Perhaps that is why I own a house with a garden outside our homeland, an apartment and a summer house in the homeland, my son has provided real estate for adulthood, a couple of cars. And I go on vacation abroad 2 times a year. I would travel more, the work does not allow.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 28 January 2018 16: 47
                +2
                The mass of investments is growing just by 5 - 7% per annum - practice confirms.
              2. savage1976
                savage1976 30 January 2018 18: 30
                0
                I don’t suffer from the lack of real estate, and the kids are provided.
          3. Overlock
            Overlock 27 January 2018 15: 30
            +6
            Quote: myrzilka
            Now 70% are paid by credit cards.

            this is bad, people live on credit
            In Russia, the population debt on loans at the beginning of 2016 reached 10 634 035 million rubles. Each resident of the country owes an average of 72 rubles to banks.
            In the top 30 constituent entities of the Russian Federation with the largest debt on loans per capita: on the 1st place is the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, where the debt on loans to individuals as of 01.01.2016, according to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, amounted to 94 million rubles, which is 078 176 rubles. per person.
            The Republic of Kalmykia (30 76 rubles per person), the Leningrad region (011 75 rubles) and the Vologda region (995 74 rubles) closes the top 075 regions of the Russian Federation on credit debt.

            It is important to note that this is not about overdue debt, but about the total amount of debt on loans granted by banks to individuals as of January 1, 2016. Overdue debt is included in this amount and at the beginning of 2016 amounted to 861 million rubles in Russia as a whole.
          4. Petr1968
            Petr1968 29 January 2018 11: 43
            +1
            Quote: myrzilka
            Example, if four to five years ago people came to my wife to work and paid with money and debit cards, now 70% are paid by credit cards. These are mainly bank cards from Tinkoff. Interest, you know what.

            The peak of lending just happens in good time. When people are sure that they can earn and give. By the way, right ... the truth is a Tinkoff debit card, an excellent bank. As for the adherents and that there are no oligarchs. Did I say that somewhere? there is so what, they do not bother me to live and earn. It’s bad when there are no oligarchs, that means. whether the poverty is total, or the king has taken everything away. Both options are disgusting to me. The current regime allows you to have a piece of bread and butter, so I’m for it with both hands. With komunyaki I would go in a coat, like everyone else and drive cars Moskvich .. no, don’t drag the country into this hole, don’t hope. Putin and the liberal economy are our present and future.
      5. captain
        captain 26 January 2018 20: 08
        +6
        So is the Kremlin afraid or is the boat being pumped for money? Who believes that Grudinin will lead us to a brighter future? Or according to the principle, let Putin leave, if only he leaves me?
      6. Alber
        Alber 26 January 2018 20: 37
        +2
        Quote: New
        And now a new person comes into politics - Grudinin, I had hope and joy that the country has a future.

        Something tells me that this Grudin is a cunning project of the Kremlin ...
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        1. vladafer
          vladafer 27 January 2018 01: 24
          24
          Oops!
          How did you vote ...
          Did a pattern break happen? What is it that hysterical? No one calls him but you a savior and deliverer. But, this presidential candidate proposed not only a program of his actions at the post he is fighting for, but also ways to implement this program. Moreover, this program meets the aspirations of the common people who want to be a creator, and not a "qualified consumer".
          1. KAV
            KAV 27 January 2018 09: 20
            +4
            Quote: vladafer
            But, this presidential candidate proposed not only a program of his actions at the post he is fighting for, but also ways to implement this program. Moreover, this program meets the aspirations of the common people who want to be a creator, and not a "qualified consumer".

            What program?! Enough to listen to his speech! He always says "must do," "must be!" What needs to be done and how it should be - everyone knows this without it! He never said “I WILL DO” or “I WILL DO” !! All his speeches are the same election zilch as all other politicians! At one time, the hunchback also broadcast sweetly from the rostrum. The whole country drooled from tenderness. And what happened next, don’t you remember ?!
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 27 January 2018 15: 32
              +6
              Quote: KAV
              He never said “I WILL DO” or “I WILL DO” !! All his speeches are the same election zilch as all other politicians!


              did Putin say otherwise?
              1. Viking
                Viking 28 January 2018 11: 49
                +3
                In a completely different way. Says "it is necessary to develop projects in the Arctic" And they are already working hard. Says "you need to rearm and modernize the Armed Forces." Already done more than 80%. Etc.
                As the saying goes - feel the difference.
                Grudinin is not a shit in his testimony confused. Slogans "for all good and against all bad" throws left and right.
                He says that he fully understands that the rich keep their capital in offshore companies, since this saves their money, since the state is the main raider and can take it away at any time. That in their slogans requires that all the money be returned to Russia, and whoever tries to take it out is supposedly a deadline. Where is the logic?
                Or suggested that the largest private banks be made public. First of all, what is the state? He already has enough available. And secondly - at whose expense? Just pick up and take away? By this, of course, he will push businessmen to create their own business in Russia, which can easily be taken and taken away. A populist of pure water.
                1. Petr1968
                  Petr1968 29 January 2018 11: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: Viking
                  In a completely different way. Says "it is necessary to develop projects in the Arctic" And they are already working hard. Says "you need to rearm and modernize the Armed Forces." Already done more than 80%. Etc.

                  It would be a place I would pick up 100 selections, as Putin says one thing, but does the opposite. If you’ve been banned from YouTube, you can get Putin’s promise. This is politics.
      8. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 27 January 2018 06: 34
        0
        Something like Prokhanov’s style. But I support
      9. Sirocco
        Sirocco 27 January 2018 08: 56
        +6
        Quote: New
        . And here comes a new person in politics - Grudinin, I had a hope

        Hope for what?
        Suppression of the withdrawal of capital abroad?
        in it? Are you seriously? Everyone is dreaming about it, from whom will he start, from his darling? )))))) Do you suggest changing the awl for soap? It’s ridiculous, I swear, the Wolf pack, represented by our capitalists, acquired a wolf chewing pine cones))))))))))) A wolf rebel, a revolutionary who cares for equality of fraternity and social justice,)))) and the whole wolf the pack joyfully claps its hands.))))))) It’s ridiculous, by golly. Hu from hu, time will tell who he is, whose he is, and where the thread is pulled from. Strange figure. It is full of secrets and mysteries, and all that is incomprehensible causes distrust and wariness.
        Quote: Vasya_Piterskiy
        in foreign policy, he has no practical experience.

        Now about Lenin, here Vladimir Ilyich is wrong, not every cook (Grudinin) can rule the country. Managing a business company is one thing, and a country is another, here both foreign and domestic politics, the economy, we need political experience, or a core that Grudinin does not have. But apparently there are those who are behind it. How is he going to solve the problem with the modern elite, business, business representatives? There will obviously be an intersection of his interests, and others. Grudinin reminds me of Don Pedro from Ukraine, who promised everything for the people, in the end, what do they have? They all have. lol
        1. Petr1968
          Petr1968 29 January 2018 11: 52
          0
          Quote: Sirocco
          Do you suggest changing the awl for soap? Funny to god

          Yes, it's better to change.
          1. woron333444
            woron333444 29 January 2018 15: 50
            +2
            To you in a neighboring country - they are changing, they can’t find a suitable way
    3. Vend
      Vend 26 January 2018 15: 25
      +2
      strange to her, much gets away with it.
      I think this is before the end of the election. And then comes ....
      1. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 15: 48
        40
        Nothing will come there. Because GDP is immensely grateful to Xenia Pope. Therefore, she is in a special position. And Kadyrov will sit silently in response to the blathering of this "journalist"
        1. Vend
          Vend 26 January 2018 16: 00
          +1
          Quote: myrzilka
          Nothing will come there. Because GDP is immensely grateful to Xenia Pope. Therefore, she is in a special position. And Kadyrov will sit silently in response to the blathering of this "journalist"

          And soon we find out, it remains only to wait a short time.
        2. Petr1968
          Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 42
          +1
          Quote: myrzilka
          Because GDP is immensely grateful to Xenia Pope.

          Putin the hell is not a decree !!!
          1. Romey
            Romey 26 January 2018 18: 25
            13
            Except Burkhalter .... am
      2. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 25
        10
        but here are a bunch of independent polls, including from well-known bloggers


        ahaha this is the story laughing the author of course normally wrote like that
        Yes, Putin ss * t not only Ukrainians and bulk judging by the article
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 31
          17
          The phrase "well-known blogger" as well as a democratic journalist "causes in a normal person a desire to immediately break into the snout.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 34
            12
            Simply, if you conduct a survey with the famous blogger Navalny or kinky Kharlamov (there is their legion, it doesn’t matter who), then of course they will win in their poll. On your social network page wassat

            You can still conduct a survey on the page of the sternum - he bought normally VKontakte groups - there will generally be 146%

            but the headline is ridiculous of course. And in general, this whole "topic"
            1. Tatanka Yotanka
              Tatanka Yotanka 26 January 2018 18: 20
              14
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              there will generally be 146%

              holy figure)) - I remember her party in power received, but now her faithful followers want to beat her to others fellow
            2. Full name
              Full name 27 January 2018 21: 59
              +2
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              Just if you conduct a survey with the famous blogger Navalny

              Will Solovyov suit you? Is he too opposed to Putin?
              Here is a real picture of Grudinin’s support, before the authorities ordered “ata him”
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5VN8GMeQwg
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 27 January 2018 22: 14
                +1
                Quote: Full name
                Will Solovyov suit you?

                no
                the survey is done in DIFFERENT GROUPS, and bloggers or radio stations will not be able to cut
                1. Full name
                  Full name 27 January 2018 23: 20
                  +2
                  These are the nuances. The main thing, as Comrade Stalin noted: "It is important not how they vote, it is important how they count." And before the government ordered Grudinin, the calculation was impartial, i.e. 45% - the figures are honest.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 08: 34
                    +2
                    Quote: Full name
                    And before the government ordered Grudinin, the calculation was impartial, i.e. 45% - the figures are honest.

                    Well, kindergarten, you can link to this "impartial" survey

                    Well, you don’t understand what they are writing about, shut up, maybe you’re going to be smart
                    1. Viking
                      Viking 28 January 2018 11: 52
                      +2
                      I agree. Conduct a survey on the "Ear Matzah" then there by a wide margin will win Horse Sobchak. Is it worth it to lean on and trust such a "survey"?
                      How is it there? "A survey on the Internet showed that 100% of respondents use the Internet" (c).
                      1. Full name
                        Full name 28 January 2018 22: 29
                        +1
                        So you say that the Westifm ​​audience is entirely communists and oppositionists? Are you out of your mind?
                      2. Petr1968
                        Petr1968 29 January 2018 12: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Viking
                        I agree. Conduct a survey on the "Ear Matzah" then there by a wide margin will win Horse Sobchak. Is it worth it to lean on and trust such a "survey"?

                        Are you drowning for the late Stalin and the party of the CPSU?))) Or do you want to listen to nightingale litter forever?))) Maybe the troll factory now pays well?)) Who are you - open your face?))
                    2. Full name
                      Full name 28 January 2018 22: 12
                      +1
                      I gave the link above, take the trouble to at least read the post of the interlocutor to the end before rushing to blame. There is a video broadcast of VestiFM, Solovyov conducts SMS voting, what else is needed? So, if there are no arguments, then you are silent and you will not get off a zombie box or a Kremlin boat.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 28 January 2018 22: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: Full name
                        I gave the link above, take the trouble to at least read the post of the interlocutor to the end before rushing to blame.

                        Once again, do you generally understand how to conduct a survey so that it shows the reality of at least 60-70 percent?
                        Quote: Full name
                        There is a video broadcast of VestiFM, Solovyov conducts SMS voting, what else is needed?

                        I'm sorry do you even know how to think a little bit? fool
                        Russian to you in white, no coverage of different groups
                        Quote: Full name
                        So, if there are no arguments, then you are silent and you won’t get off

                        unlike you, I’m just thinking, and I also know something if you conduct a survey on your ear either a horse or a dog wins, if on the LDPR website Zhirik, so the polls are not done
                        all the best to proving something to a person who does not have minimal knowledge on the subject of a dispute is pointless hi
              2. Bosch
                Bosch 28 January 2018 14: 57
                +1
                Yes, then Soloviev, from surprise, was almost speechless.
          2. Petr1968
            Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 58
            +5
            Quote: Mestny
            The phrase "well-known blogger" as well as a democratic journalist "causes in a normal person a desire to immediately break into the snout.

            Where did this orangutan come from? Did you run away from the zoo?
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 26 January 2018 20: 59
              +7
              In Russian correctly spelled "from the zoo."
              Do not miss lessons son.
              And then an adult uncle will come and stick a flaming torch of knowledge into your unwashed ignorance. (quote)
          3. myrzilka
            myrzilka 26 January 2018 22: 44
            +2
            Well, the snout is tough, but to give a shovel in hand and send to work for real - yes.
        2. SOF
          SOF 26 January 2018 17: 46
          +2
          Quote: c-Petrov
          but here are a bunch of independent polls, including from well-known bloggers


          ahaha this is the story laughing the author of course normally wrote like that
          Yes, Putin ss * t not only Ukrainians and bulk judging by the article

          ... such a heap is interesting that a modest poll will not be organized at VO.
          In general, the usual political torpedo from the category "Yes, it starts with ....!" (The dispute is for the especially "gifted")
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 18: 12
            +6
            ..interesting such a bunch that in VO modest some kind of survey is not organized.


            polls do not make sense. There are many foreigners and former compatriots. They wish us happiness laughing
        3. seal78
          seal78 26 January 2018 18: 28
          +4
          It put me in too. When did these “bloggers” become an authoritative source of information, and in principle, people whose opinion on politics deserves at least some attention?
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 29 January 2018 13: 08
            +1
            Quote: seal78
            When did these “bloggers” become an authoritative source of information, and in principle, people whose opinion on politics deserves at least some attention?

            Since the same "political scientists" with TV, they will tell you about Syria and about Ukrainians and about America))
            1. SEER
              SEER 29 January 2018 14: 02
              +1
              Quote: Petr1968
              Quote: seal78
              When did these “bloggers” become an authoritative source of information, and in principle, people whose opinion on politics deserves at least some attention?

              Since the same "political scientists" with TV, they will tell you about Syria and about Ukrainians and about America))

              type of arrow transferred? one of the tricks of the demagogue
    4. seos
      seos 26 January 2018 16: 05
      15
      Any adequate person should be afraid of Grudinin because if he wins, there is a high probability of returning to the "Saints 90s"
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 44
        16
        Quote: seos
        Any adequate person should be afraid of Grudinin because if he wins, there is a high probability of returning to the "Saints 90s"

        What exactly do you mean? Oil will drop to $ 18-15? Or are you talking about a real parliament, not the Communist Party ?? I don’t understand what you mean?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 18: 29
          14
          Quote: Petr1968
          Quote: seos
          Any adequate person should be afraid of Grudinin because if he wins, there is a high probability of returning to the "Saints 90s"

          What exactly do you mean? Oil will drop to $ 18-15? Or are you talking about a real parliament, not the Communist Party ?? I don’t understand what you mean?

          Seven bankers who ruled Russia. for instance yes
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 29 January 2018 10: 20
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Seven bankers who ruled Russia. For example yes

            Well, now everything is completely different))) Replace the word "bankers" with "friends" and get the same thing))) Do we have the psychology of people from the scoop changed?)) They were nobody at the Communist Party and there are such grandmothers .. .and the government remained honest .. is not it funny? )) Or don’t you see how little bureaucrats live in and on what small towns in your town?)))
      2. yehat
        yehat 26 January 2018 17: 04
        18
        he must be feared for another reason, because he is not a communist and not a liberal and not a "statesman." This is a useless populist. Want to lose a few years of the country to nothing? Vote on the sternum.
        1. seal78
          seal78 26 January 2018 18: 26
          +8
          Not just wasted, but to roll back many years.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 26
            +4
            His first proposal as president will be "Why are we spending so much on the defense industry - we need to reduce funding for the snickish military-industrial complex." We have 470 billion gold and foreign exchange reserves. We need to immediately put them into production, all in a similar way.
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 27 January 2018 02: 11
              15
              Quote: Vadim237
              His first proposal as president will be "Why are we spending so much on the defense industry - we need to reduce funding for the snickish military-industrial complex." We have 470 billion gold and foreign exchange reserves. We need to immediately put them into production, all in a similar way.

              Have you come up with? And here are the real words, while still a presidential candidate
              In fact, the only way to get us reckoned with is to have a powerful economy and a powerful army. Our Western "partners" wanted to spit on international treaties. They recognize only power. Russia will be strong economically and militarily - we won’t have to worry about our place in the world. / N.P. Grudinin /
              http://sovross.ru/articles/1647/37509/comments/2#
              comments
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 27 January 2018 20: 10
                +1
                Only he kept silent about the main thing - on what means, at the expense of which industries and how much it will take time - my forecast, in the best scenario, is at least 10 years old - he will only have to save on everything, including on the defense industry, since the funds for this development come from air will not appear. He promised to increase salaries and pensions to 30000 for everyone, but again he forgot to calculate that for such plans every year in the budget, in addition to other expenses, there should be at least 30 trillion rubles for salaries, pensions and benefits and at least 20 trillion for all the rest expenses, now the Russian budget is 16 trillion with 92 trillion of GDP, it turns out that in order to have 50 trillion in the budget, you need to have about 300 trillion of GDP - even for 10 years the task is not real.
            2. Petr1968
              Petr1968 29 January 2018 16: 52
              0
              Quote: Vadim237
              His first proposal as president will be - "Why are we spending so much on the defense industry - we need to reduce funding for the snickering defense industry"

              Indeed, we are at war with the whole world !!! The first decree is to hand out to everyone automatically and go ahead to cleanse the world from filth!
          2. Pashhenko Nikolay
            Pashhenko Nikolay 27 January 2018 09: 11
            +3
            No one ever came back in history. Or do you have examples?
            1. SEER
              SEER 29 January 2018 06: 04
              +1
              Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
              No one ever came back in history. Or do you have examples?

              "country of the victorious Maidan" as an example. according to them, they’ve "returned" for 20 years ...
          3. yehat
            yehat 29 January 2018 12: 20
            0
            Yes there will be no rollback, no rollback. it will be stupid stagnation for several years and
            losses from momentary market decisions.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 29 January 2018 18: 27
              0
              You certainly will not lose anything - you might even gain it.
              1. yehat
                yehat 30 January 2018 01: 41
                0
                I don’t expect anything good from the authorities.
        2. Full name
          Full name 27 January 2018 22: 22
          +3
          Quote: yehat
          because he is not a communist and not a liberal and not a "statesman"

          "Non-state" whose program includes nationalization of mineral resources, major banks, alcohol production, etc ??? belay
          And fear that Grudinin is “not a communist and not a liberal” is not necessary. Over in China, too, a cross between communism and capitalism, and nothing is growing at 7%, unlike us.
          1. Viking
            Viking 28 January 2018 11: 56
            +3
            One of the most populist and impracticable slogans. Something is not visible special attempts and the desire of the same Communist Party to resolve the issue, even with alcohol.
        3. Petr1968
          Petr1968 29 January 2018 10: 22
          +1
          Quote: yehat
          This is a useless populist. Want to lose a few years of the country to nothing? Vote on the sternum.

          The specific measures that you think will roll back the country ??? And with Medvedev we are tearing the whole world straight in the race for the economy))) Remind me the average salary in the country?)))
          1. yehat
            yehat 29 January 2018 12: 21
            +1
            Both Medvedev and Grudinin are equally disgusting to me and I did not say anything about the kickbacks.
            1. Petr1968
              Petr1968 29 January 2018 12: 47
              0
              Quote: yehat
              Both Medvedev and Grudinin are equally disgusting to me and I did not say anything about the kickbacks.

              We are here purely hypothetically. A hedgehog, it’s clear that Putin will rule as much as he wants. And as for the likes ... well, he’s not a woman, what would you like, the fact is that if you do not change the team, then why should she work? It’s logical, they would pay me half a lyama and would not ask, I wouldn’t do anything at all ... Here are TVs and other things and make fog that change is always bad .. For bad it’s stagnation. The world moves and premieres the sea, when successful countries slowly drifted into poverty ... We already have a salary of 500 bucks, while in developed ones 300
              1. yehat
                yehat 29 January 2018 13: 45
                +1
                The cost of management decisions is very high. a team can thump the entire term of the presidency and release only one correct improvement of the law, which will recoup all costs, and it can plow by issuing 200-300 laws and by-laws and make the result worse. Therefore, the analysis of the work of the team is not important.
                More important are the results.
                1. Petr1968
                  Petr1968 29 January 2018 16: 54
                  0
                  Quote: yehat
                  and release only one correct improvement of the law, which will cover all costs

                  For our complete happiness, one solution is not enough? And what? And about thumping the whole term .. so what else to do if people are happy not from the economy, but from the fact that we can push the budget of a small town into a jeep.
                  1. yehat
                    yehat 29 January 2018 17: 04
                    +1
                    for a law that guarantees, with minimal imputed requirements, borrowed funds to the population for business on conditions such as 0.5 percent per annum or in general by installments, I am ready to bear the bear for 1 term)))
                    it even compensates for another skirmish with Georgia on a statewide scale.
                    let him issue 1 law. for the third term, let it issue another 1 law - the share of excise taxes on the sale of resources to the accounts of citizens of the Russian Federation (with the specification of the right to obtain this status). And let the rest of the days the poor Bear doesn’t come out of Courchevel,
                    will become more popular than Putin.
                    1 term, 1 law, the formula will work))))
      3. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 26 January 2018 18: 26
        11
        Quote: seos
        there is a high probability of returning to the "saints 90s"

        those who built the Yeltsin center recorded them in saints, they need to be afraid that something would not happen to Putin because there will remain an environment from the 90s
        1. partizan86
          partizan86 30 January 2018 00: 37
          0
          Those of the 90s are no longer scary, their time has irretrievably gone, they have a more mature replacement.
          But Putin is a living person, he is not eternal, time is running out. It is high time for everyone to find a replacement, just in case "suddenly," which sooner or later, but inevitably, will come. When Putin came to his first term, in those days all politicians mumbled something, "e-ekali", he spoke clearly and clearly, being aware of any topic that was touched on, and all this without looking at a piece of paper. Now he is looking at this very piece of paper, speaking in the same distinct way, but it’s not at all always without errors in the data that do not cause a desire to listen to it.
      4. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 22: 50
        +8
        What kind of brad off is a gray cable? Who told you that? Sasha Rogers? His reputation is very doubtful and covered with a fair amount of feces. And others see a really working enterprise, good salaries of workers, a beautiful kindergarten, normal houses. Which of the current politicians, eager for power, worked with his hands? Gorlopan and weather vane Zhirinovsky?
        Ksyushad resting on the bones of his father? Yavlinsky, with its Sakhalin 2? Or the hero of the cloak and dagger, now ruling the country? Which of them really worked?
        I am very grateful to Putin for the Crimea, and for Ossetia, for Syria. This is great! But domestic politics, this is a complete failure - a fiasco. Always said; or Putin will remove this government - or the government will remove it. It’s good to try Grudinin at the premieres. Still, he is a business executive, and not a lawyer with high conceit. Or someone from the comrades here like our current government? I take Lavrov and Shoigu beyond this mess, they are the only ones in their place.
        1. Viking
          Viking 28 January 2018 11: 58
          +2
          Stably, the company receives the lion's share of its income for leased land near the Moscow Ring Road. So why not be stable?
        2. Petr1968
          Petr1968 29 January 2018 10: 23
          +3
          Quote: myrzilka
          I am very grateful to Putin for the Crimea, and for Ossetia, for Syria

          I forgot to add that for a salary of $ 500, when in the US and European countries $ 3000.
          You from the Crimea and Syria that .. rollback is coming?)))
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          2. woron333444
            woron333444 29 January 2018 15: 57
            +2
            Did you work there? Who gets 3000 there? Germany today receives a high-class worker 1500, and in the basics 1100-1200. Taxes are three times higher than ours. The communal area is 8 times higher. They even have a rain tax.
            1. sapporo1959
              sapporo1959 29 January 2018 16: 47
              0
              You’re telling us such passions of your face about this Germany that I’m direct and crying ... Here is an honest pioneer!
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 29 January 2018 18: 29
                0
                Honest retirement - more suitable.
        3. yehat
          yehat 29 January 2018 13: 46
          +2
          don't need a populist either in the premieres or in the presidency.
          the only successful portfolio for the populist is the Minister of Culture.
    5. Retired2012
      Retired2012 26 January 2018 16: 37
      19
      You know, perhaps, about the origin of Grudin’s 7 billion rubles? Not dollars and euros .... Is it not from the sale of oil and gas abroad, round timber? He earned money on strawberries, because in the Russian land .... he provided people with work, a salary ......
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 41
        10
        Earned on strawberries


        laughing
        1. onix757
          onix757 26 January 2018 16: 44
          22
          What is the difference on what? On what it is possible on that and earns. He owes nothing to the Kremlin. The main thing is that people see the result.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 45
            11
            What is the difference on what?


            laughing But what do you dislike about other Alekharchs? Deripaska at GAZ is clearly more people working. Or did he not build a garden?
            1. onix757
              onix757 26 January 2018 17: 01
              21
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              But what do you dislike about other Alekharchs? Deripaska at GAZ obviously has more people working

              Who is Deripaska? Who gave him the GAS?
            2. Freeman
              Freeman 27 January 2018 02: 17
              13
              Quote: c-Petrov
              What is the difference on what?


              laughing But what do you dislike about other Alekharchs? Deripaska at GAZ is clearly more people working. Or did he not build a garden?

              Did GAZ build Deripaska himself? Or at least went on a path from it to a manager to a director (even if he later privatized this same factory)?
              1. tforik
                tforik 27 January 2018 14: 52
                +1
                Well then, Mordashev ?!
        2. Romey
          Romey 26 January 2018 18: 28
          25
          Quote: c-Petrov
          Earned on strawberries


          laughing

          Abramovich can do it with oil, but Grudinin can’t do it with strawberries. For it is a sin and it is a creepy oligarch from whom the holy Messiah Putin saved us. am There was no complete nonsense and there are no 7 billion.
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 18: 42
            +8
            38 million worth one cottage within the Moscow Ring Road. And not a palace nirazu. So you better analyze these stories. That is half a million $

            Of course, I have not seen 7 billion, but when I hear about 36 million from a candidate who has 40% control over such territory in the Moscow Ring Road - I get fun)

            And I do not understand why you yourself do not question everything that this person talks about in the video.

            Hatred of Putin has blinked your eyes)

            And when they find billions from Putin - believe me - I'm the first who decides to read this article from the Washington Post)

            1. Shahno
              Shahno 26 January 2018 18: 51
              +1
              Fun ... Yeah, fine. When you need to shoot your foot. When not, 20 percent of the budget tranche at Barclays Bank has mastered .... Involuntarily, the cottage will loom.
            2. St Petrov
              St Petrov 26 January 2018 19: 15
              +3
              I also remembered a clown jester, with TNT, who bought an apartment (though not from MKAD but closer to the center) for 30 million rubles.

              This is a TNT channel buffoon. starting from the bottom, rising to another bottom lol

              You are probably just far from the Moscow Ring Road, but in Moscow I think many have a smile when they hear about Mr. Grudinin’s 36 million rubles

              You think in different "echelons" with Grudinin. And even this TNT jester with his 30 millionth apartment does not think like Grudinin. Grudinin has other money and this is a fact

              And I think it's not even 38 million £ And I do not exclude that he speaks not from his own face and not from "tinsel", which hangs around next to him shining with his physiognomies.

              And I don’t know who gave the state farm to Grudinin, but I know for sure that he could not make money on such an area and build it himself.

              So the state farm at the sternum appeared about the same as the rest of our privatizers of national property.

              So I like what Deripaska did to the Gazelle. Maybe Grudinin, of course, was handsome and provided several hundred people with work, but I think Abramovich was even more sincere towards his small Motherland. But this is not a reason for these characters to climb into power as President.

              1. St Petrov
                St Petrov 26 January 2018 19: 35
                +2
                THE WINE APARTMENT FOR 30 MILLION RUBLES IN MOSCOW was bought by the wife of Armen Dzhigarkhanyan

                loud headline in the yellow press) but I’m just showing you what 38 million rubles means for this “PEOPLE”

                Maybe you will understand)
              2. St Petrov
                St Petrov 26 January 2018 23: 12
                +1
                checked the information about this guy turned out to be disa - 6 million
            3. udincev
              udincev 26 January 2018 22: 47
              +6
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              And I do not understand why you yourself do not question everything that this person talks about in the video.

              Do you question and verify everything that is poured on Grudinin and the team?
              I have no doubt that no ... Otherwise, the conclusions are obvious.
              Quote: c-Petrov

              Hatred of Putin has blinked your eyes)
              This is a big deal on your part, in relation to those who sympathize with the program of the Grudin team, but do not deny Putin's merits.
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 20: 32
            +9
            Quote: romey
            there were no 7 billion

            Yah? belay

            Do you need to clarify how much one paper indicated in the declaration costs? wink
            1. Freeman
              Freeman 27 January 2018 03: 27
              +4
              Golovan Jack Yesterday, 20:32
              Do you need to clarify how much one paper indicated in the declaration costs?

              hi Please specify on the shares of the bank "Liechtenstein" (paragraph 3), otherwise I was completely confused.
              It turns out that if the nominal value (11716280 rubles) is multiplied by 200 units, then 2.3 billion
              And if the market value (410069.8 rubles) is multiplied by 200 units, then 82 million
              It turns out worthless Pasha "business" ?! - more than two "lard" profuc?
              Or "welded" eight times?
              Or at least 11 "lyamov" lost? what
      2. onix757
        onix757 26 January 2018 16: 46
        22
        Quote: Retreat2012
        You know, perhaps, about the origin of Grudin’s 7 billion rubles?

        Not 7 billion, but 36 million in rubles. Yet lying is not beautiful.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 26 January 2018 18: 48
          +6
          Not 7 billion, but 36 million in rubles. Yet lying is not beautiful.


          I understand that for you 36 million (as for me) is a lot, but laughing this is not serious

          For people conducting medium (and even small business) this is not an outrageous amount.

          And the one who operates the areas near the Moscow Ring Road is to hold a corporate party with his employees, and fly on vacation with his family.

          But of course you can think that he is a "people", he is for a "people" and then he will share everything with everyone.
        2. myrzilka
          myrzilka 27 January 2018 00: 45
          +4
          No no . for them to lie is normal.
      3. avt
        avt 26 January 2018 17: 06
        +7
        Quote: Retreat2012
        You know, perhaps, about the origin of Grudin’s 7 billion rubles?

        KNOW! Don't worry about
        Quote: Retreat2012
        ? Not dollars and euros .... Is it not from the sale of oil and gas abroad, round timber?

        From the sale of land of collective farms, naturally not from
        Quote: Retreat2012
        On strawberries

        namely
        Quote: Retreat2012
        on Russian land ....

        Together with the son. So not only
        Quote: Retreat2012
        provided work for people, salary.

        but also for collective farms weighed. Well, with regards to
        I prefer to consider everything that happens in this way. And, accordingly, Pavel Grudinina is regarded as a person who may be able to stop the stupidity and spiritual impoverishment of the country in favor of the cunning plans of our oligarchs.
        In general, there is something to fear the Kremlin is.
        bully ROMAN! Well, you need something .... to grow up or something request Even if you earn money from Grudinin in the elections (which is really nothing reprehensible - capitalism in the yard - you can quite work for yourself for money.) Well, if he’s deniaopin "- Zyugan I WILL CLEAN, in ONE DOORS, winning the elections at the EBN without any tricks, A pissed cat has merged, then with what fright do you really rub us in, what is it .... well, so it seems - ,, a strong business executive "will not stop even with a probability of success? bully So that's it, well, the whole, who seriously decided that one of all the operetta characters
        In general, there is something to fear the Kremlin is.
        I hasten to reassure - do not vibrate in vain. This is what you really need to fear.
        The Kremlin
        so it's low turnout. Putin will receive a carte blanche for everything in the next cycle if, with a turnout of at least 60%, he will receive his 80%. Then it can turn anywhere and any way, even to the right, even to the left, or up or down, just in a circle counterclockwise or clockwise .. Otherwise, all turns will be declared not legitimate from all the slots and blowers, speakers, irons and toilets ..
        1. populist
          populist 26 January 2018 20: 36
          +5
          avt
          Well, if it’s “deniaopin” - Zyugan I WILL CLEARLY, having won the elections at the EBN without any tricks, a pissed cat has merged. That’s why you’re really rubbing us with it, that .... well, it’s a strong business manager "does not hesitate even with the probability of success? bully So that's it, well, the whole, who seriously decided that one of all the operetta characters

          And where is Deng Xiaoping. Deng Xiaoping was a power reformer and successfully carried out grandiose reforms in China. The image is not suitable for comparison.
          You repeat some general misconception about the alleged victory of Zyuganov in the 1996 elections. No one has ever brought yet evidence of this supposed victory. No one has ever brought anywhere else any data - numbers and documents confirming this lie, but everyone knows for sure that Zyuganov allegedly won. So, the analogy is empty and empty.
          1. avt
            avt 26 January 2018 21: 19
            +5
            Quote: populist
            And where is Deng Xiaoping.

            Aya-ya-yay! It’s a shame and a bad thing not to follow the fateful statements of your leaders! negative It’s not Az sinful, but comrade Zyuganov went to the CAMERA when he was asked how he didn’t go to the polls and what he’ll do now, he announced - “I’ll be with him our Den Xiao Ping" Shame on you indelible! bully
            Quote: populist
            You repeat some general misconception about the alleged victory of Zyuganov in the 1996 elections. No one has ever brought yet evidence of this supposed victory.

            bully Twice a disgrace! YOURSELF, leader, "after the second round, sat again on camera, but muttered - you can’t allow war between ,, North" and "South" meaning "red belt" and Yagorka - chairman of the Federation Council and then the regions in which The Communist Party of the Russian Federation lost the elections. And from the fact that you are repeating about some
            Quote: populist
            this lie

            Not wanting to refresh the direct sayings on the camera of the object of adoration, the FACTS will not disappear. But in your alternative reality of course you can delete them. bully But this is already a matter of psychiatry. Well, for dessert, when the doctor treats.
            Quote: populist
            No one has ever brought anywhere else any data - numbers and documents confirming this lie, but everyone knows for sure that Zyuganov allegedly won.

            Again, but after some time, when the EBN has again been crowned, if you can, refresh, how much and how much your subject of adoration is Zyu Ga Nopin, again on the camera I muttered about the “falsification of elections” and, we collected documents and sue! " bully
            1. populist
              populist 26 January 2018 23: 21
              +3
              avt
              , I will be with him our Den Xiao Ping "Shame on you indelible!

              Well, when it’s Den, then the comparison will do. wink
              Twice a disgrace! YOURSELF, leader, "after the second round, sat again on camera, but muttered - you can’t allow war between ,, North" and "South" meaning "red belt" and Yagorka - chairman of the Federation Council and then the regions in which Communist Party lost the election.

              And what did these statements prove? They can also be pronounced after losing the election. Where did Zyuganov say that he won the election? lol AND? These are your personal insinuations about that. that you personally thought something. yes
              FACTS WILL NOT DISAPPEAR

              But where are the facts, nice man? fellow
              You haven’t brought a single fact, not a single document, not a single calculation, not a single statement - nothing at all. No.
              if of course you can, refresh how much and how your subject of adoration is Zyu Ga Nopin, again mumbled to the camera about ,, rigging the elections "and," we have collected the documents and are suing! "

              So he says it after every election. And what, he won in all, perhaps, if you follow your logic? Will it be to hell? laughing Falsifications have always been.
              But this is already a matter of psychiatry. Well, for dessert, when the doctor treats.

              So, not me, but you need to be treated for arrogance and fraud. tongue
              1. avt
                avt 27 January 2018 14: 05
                +3
                Quote: populist
                So, not me, but you need to be treated for arrogance and fraud.

                More likely! Rather, to the TV screens for the program, “lead 24"! There, for you, point-and-shooters, is your subject of adoration - Grudinin issued the initiative, almost verbatim - “We need to create a National Anti-Corruption Bureau" bully Well ? doesn’t it mean anything to you bad guys about associations? bully
                1. Viking
                  Viking 28 January 2018 12: 08
                  +3
                  Exactly. Create a "National Anti-Corruption Bureau" (which is particularly emphasized will only obey the President). Well, what's the point besides populist slogans? There is the FSB, there is the Investigative Committee, there is the Accounts Chamber. From what personnel is he going to create a new department? And most importantly - why? If the existing (and I note exclusively subordinate to the President) structures have anti-corruption tasks. Or is he going there as usual to recruit "crystal clear honest and awesome professionals." Apparently from the personnel reserve from Mars, since professionals in existing structures are not satisfied with it.
      4. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 06
        16
        Do you know the origin of 9 billion Zakharchenko? Gide money slamzy Serdyukov and Co.? How could the Sakhalin governor earn his money by honest labor? Krabov caught all his life? Abramovich is happy to invest in the repair of the stadium, though not in Russia but in England. And such examples are darkness. As an official, so is corruption. Terrible corruption. And while these 36 million do not give rest. Compared to others, it's money for a school breakfast.
        1. udincev
          udincev 27 January 2018 13: 03
          +2
          Quote: myrzilka
          And while these 36 million do not give rest.

          We must somehow explain once the "oligarch" was called. It is necessary to somehow explain to the Communist Party electorate that their candidate must certainly be one of those who came in a torn jacket from under the fence near the pub without a spear.
        2. Viking
          Viking 28 January 2018 12: 11
          +4
          That is, can he? And also to keep money abroad on deposit accounts and afterwards tell that "this is for the treatment of employees." Not on the current (current account), but a pancake on deposit (i.e. on deposits). But a statesman. What garbage - for the New Year holidays to go to Germany to relax, for that matter there is nowhere to relax.
      5. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 30
        +3
        I haven’t raised a billion over 11 years of production of the most complicated parts - and you say that you earned seven billion on strawberries.
        1. myrzilka
          myrzilka 27 January 2018 00: 47
          +2
          But if you had a team that you would lead. That, in the production of complex parts, would have raised a multiyard, or even more.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 27 January 2018 09: 26
            +1
            Now I have a team of 257 people - this is not only production, but also car maintenance and parts stores.
            1. myrzilka
              myrzilka 27 January 2018 17: 03
              +4
              That is, you confirm that with such a tax system, inspections of control bodies, you can’t earn a multiyard? And at the same time, will you vote for GDP, that is, for the government that writes these laws? What a masochistic, right, pleasure.
              I would vote for GDP with both hands if I was sure that he would drive out this "prime minister" and this government too. But the GDP itself said that it wouldn’t change the groomsmen at the crossing. Although they do not change, but it is necessary to shoot. And I do not care what they write about his ofigiliards and Kabaeva. I am not indifferent to the complete degradation of our economy, the police, and judicial arbitrariness. And the further, the worse it gets. If Putin dismisses DAM, give his first runaway vote to the polling station.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 28 January 2018 11: 09
                +3
                Why, everything has already been earned and invested, when in 2015 I started investing in the assets of other companies and playing on the stock exchange, and still we have the lowest taxes in Europe and this is the best because 12 years ago I had nothing at all, the beginning was essentially from zero. And I honestly pay taxes.
              2. Viking
                Viking 28 January 2018 12: 13
                +2
                With "our tax system"? One of the lowest in Europe?
                1. St Petrov
                  St Petrov 28 January 2018 12: 37
                  +4
                  I have for the IP 6% -7% +

                  wassat the Frenchman choked on some kind of bun now

                  men cannot explain anything to such characters. He has the worst tax in Russia. what to talk about

                  That is, you confirm that with such a tax system, inspections of control bodies, you can’t earn a multiyard?


                  Checks are of course only in Mordor. In Europe you can study and write in papers what you want - they don’t check there

                  And apparently they don’t pay taxes wassat
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 28 January 2018 16: 50
                  +2
                  Can you imagine the cheapest gasoline in Europe.
              3. _person_
                _person_ 31 January 2018 11: 43
                0
                Greetings!
                Why are you so attached to DAM?
                If you noticed, then the liberal bloc has already made it quite clear that DAM should be removed from the post of prime minister. Moreover, this campaign has been going on for a long time, remember at least Kudrin’s statements on this subject. Now all this has only become aggravated.
                Attention, the question is - why did this sudden liberalist “wing” harness itself to this campaign to eliminate DAM from the political horizon, given the obvious engagement of all this party with the West?

                DAM, of course, the politician is independent, incompetent, and does a lot of harm to Russia, especially when he was "standing at the helm" as president when the showdown between the elites began again.
                But DAM is already a recruited figure, which means it is calculated and predictable for the GDP and its team, since due to its own incapacity to effectively harm the country when the president is not able to. + The dossier on DAM and the people behind it has already accumulated a fair amount, which allows them to be more involved in work for the benefit of the peoples of Russia.

                And that is precisely why the entire political party in our country is so actively seeking a replacement for it - DAM is corny not able to cope with the task set by the liberal elite to limit Russia's ability to gain its state sovereignty.

                Now, in essence, these same elites have consolidated around the candidacy of P.N. .
                Moreover, the APG is the same driven and non-independent politician as DAM, i.e. for you and me, it was a matter of soap, but probably more capable, therefore, in this sense, the damage to the country from such a “replacement” will be knowingly higher.

                In addition, we must not forget that any political success of the APG in this presidential election in Russia is an application for its success and our / foreign political elites in the process of turning our country into a more obedient and predictable state for external governance.

                Our elites do not offer other candidates who will work for our interests with you. They seem to be gone.

                Worst of all, the people themselves are also not yet ready to offer a competent manager from their midst who will be able to work effectively for the interests of the vast majority of the Russian population.

                So it’s important not to “remove DAM” at all costs, but
                to educate a galaxy of adequate high-moral managers who will be able to work consistently and effectively in the interests of the entire multinational people of Russia.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 January 2018 17: 05
            +2
            For organizations - In 1995-2001, the basic tax rate was 35% and was higher for banks, insurers, etc., in 2002-2008 the unified rate was 24%. Since 2009, the income tax rate has been 20%, of which 2% was credited to the federal budget, 18% to the budget of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation (Clause 1, Article 284 of the Tax Code of the Russian Federation). From 2017 to 2020, 3% is credited to the federal budget, 17% to the budget of a constituent entity of the Russian Federation (Clause 1, Article 284 of the Tax Code): For individuals, 13%.
    6. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 26 January 2018 16: 47
      32
      Oh how! Some unhealthy movement began in relation to (the candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation) P. Grudinin.
      It seems that EdRo will use the administrative resource insolently, taking advantage of the situation and the “supervisors” will remain blind and deaf. And, here and now they really sensed the danger.
      The CEC issued a warning to the Communist Party in connection with the distribution of the Pravda newsletter, RIA Novosti reports. The document was recognized as illegal campaigning for the candidate for president of Russia, nominated by the Communist Party, Pavel Grudinin.
      Last Friday, in Novosibirsk, police detained a circulation of the newsletter of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation “Pravda”. The document was dedicated to the Communist Party candidate for president of Russia, Grudinin. The local election commission considered the ballot to be illegal campaigning and prohibited its distribution.
      It is alleged that most residents of the Russian Federation found out about the Communist Party presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin from opinion polls. And what will happen if more competent agitation goes?
      Pamfilova (head of the CEC) -..., like Churov -..., in due time, earns on the order.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 52
        12
        And what will happen if more competent agitation goes?


        help the billionaire wassat he is not familiar with public relations and does not invest money in it and did not hire specialists.
        one hope for you.

        1. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 26 January 2018 17: 11
          21
          What is your sarcasm? Here, people, everyone has their own beliefs.
          Based on sensory experience ...
          Yes, with that kind of "government" and agitation is not even needed ...
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 17: 13
            +5
            to (candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation)


            I thought you were the first to engage in sarcasm. with its highest degree

            Here, people, everyone has their own beliefs.


            I absolutely agree with you. we just have to wait until March and everything will be known.
      2. Viking
        Viking 28 January 2018 12: 17
        +1
        Pamfilova by the way herself in general from the liberal camp if that. Milking Help.
        But that is not the point. After the release of these ballots, she called Comrade Sue and said that this is such a jamb, correct it. They scored. There are established election procedures, such as the fact that campaigning is paid from the candidate’s fund. Be kind to observe. And even at the start of the election race they believe that the rules are not written for them.
      3. Petr1968
        Petr1968 29 January 2018 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: Pax tecum
        And, here and now they really sensed the danger.

        Putin has no danger. Just the show will be fun or not. That's all.
    7. Antivirus2k
      Antivirus2k 26 January 2018 17: 35
      20
      Before you thoughtlessly repeat the fake about the "billions" of rubles, at least understand the topic. And then look like a dunce, along with like you.
    8. Esoteric
      Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 05
      +7
      Quote: Salute
      compare Lenin or Stalin with all the shortcomings, they did not seek personal enrichment

      Stop repeating edrosovskie tales. Grudinin these millions !!! earned, and he is not yet the head of state, unlike Dimon and his "capitalist ministers"
      Read at your leisure:
      http://my-facts.ru/chelovek/toma-sankara-samyj-ch
      estnyj-prezident-strany

      Tom Sankara - the most honest president of the country
    9. planetauuu.com
      planetauuu.com 26 January 2018 19: 44
      14
      "... stumbled on 7 billion rubles ..."

      Be so kind, please demonstrate a copy of that terrible, defamatory Grudinin document.
      1. Romey
        Romey 26 January 2018 21: 40
        16
        And above Golovan Jack laid out some crap ... Even if we assume that Grudinin is such a bad radish, he hid securities for 7 lard rubles, then in any case he is simply a rogue, compared with the faithful servant of a modest colonel who rose from his knees from a galley rower Zakharchenka. However, crap is all in lean butter.
        This is not self-justification on this occasion, not of some opportunist there, as some “communists” say, who betrayed the ideas of Lenin and Stalin in Putin’s person, but he himself doesn’t have a terry Black Hundred and anti-communist who suddenly breaks all Putin’s patterns about a communist businessman .

        In general, I completely agree with A. Savelyev and also urge all nationalists and monarchists, all who care for our historical Russia, as if it were not called at different stages of its history, to vote for P.N. Grudinin and put an end to the status of a comprador half-colony.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 27 January 2018 02: 08
          +1
          Against the regime vomits?
          “Suddenly,” yes.
        2. Viking
          Viking 28 January 2018 12: 18
          +3
          You call on nationalists and monarchists to vote for a candidate from the party of the so-called communists? My world will never be the same :).
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 28 January 2018 13: 17
            +6
            You call on nationalists and monarchists to vote for a candidate from the party of the so-called communists? My world will never be the same :).


            in the subject under the sternum and everywhere where they start drowning for it - there 90% of the schiza creeps out. The communist billionaire, in response, they shout at him not a billion, but 36 million - which is ridiculous in itself. 36 million. Haha And adherents here sacredly believe in this story.
            They believe in the Forces of Good that are now eager for power. Under the banner of socialism wassat The main thing the socialists gathered at the top of the Communist Party. "Patrons of Life" - for 20 years, everyone has been giving out and sharing sitting in parliament. And then Grudinin will give all 36 million of his.

            Or he has only 36 million, because he shared the rest with the "people"? Haha

            Our friends from mattresses allocated a lot of money to the Russian Federation and gave the floor to everyone who is against it.

            All YouTube drowns against. Everywhere Grudinin climbs. And if you pay attention and analyze - that this is one company that drowned earlier for the marsh. all of these worthless accounts. With all its "authors." Social networks what's going on. The bots are dark. The pre-election accounts on this site are darkness.

            Demons began to fuss. So everything is fine.
    10. udincev
      udincev 26 January 2018 21: 22
      12
      Quote: Salute
      compare Lenin or Stalin with all the shortcomings, they did not seek personal enrichment

      So if even Stalin, even though Lenin had put forward their candidacies for the presidential election in 2018, then they would have turned out to be a nightmare as much as a hitch. Lenin is definitely not subject to registration as a clearly foreign agent.
      But Grudinin and the team at all sacred liberalistic encroached - incl. that only he (they) will not be attributed, Flowers with a foul odor we already have to see (the same billion 7 rubles).
    11. siberalt
      siberalt 26 January 2018 22: 09
      10
      Putin, as a self-nominated candidate, without dibats will look strange. And an administrative resource can play him a disservice at all. Our officials really love to lick a certain part of the body to their boss.
      Respect to the author!
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 26 January 2018 23: 20
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        Putin, as a self-nominated candidate, without dibats will look strange. And an administrative resource can play him a disservice at all. Our officials really love to lick a certain part of the body to their boss.
        Respect to the author!

        the most unpleasant thing in this situation is that there will not be a single sane opponent in the debate!
        judging by the slogans and theses, not a single full-fledged candidate has ripened in Russia, at least in terms of putting forward theses of the election campaign. and the debate with the participation of the president may end with a regular press conference of Vladimir Vladimirovich, due to the fact that the other candidates, even in the field of raising questions, are nothing that interests the population of Russia ...
    12. ds269
      ds269 26 January 2018 22: 37
      +6
      and why not 700 billion. write - the paper suffers everything)))))
    13. Spnsr
      Spnsr 26 January 2018 23: 05
      +5
      my impression of Grudinin, as a politician, a dummy, like a nouveau riche, I'm sorry, a businessman can imagine something.
      Regarding his foreign accounts, it seems more like he was divorced to open these accounts, now there are a lot of them, such as offers to play on the import exchange, type of Aforex and shares. the money burned out, (scam) and the accounts remained!
      but in fact, as candidates, there is not one who voiced real changes and ways of real control of economic and domestic political processes!
      instead of declaring that he will fight for the solution of some problems, he says that he has already handed over to the president!
      the second, states a program that is fundamentally obvious as a parallel reality, in no way consistent with the real market relations prevailing in Russia, as if everything was written in phishington, or they look at the reality of life through the phasington prism of Russia's perception!
      the third, declares the desire to change something that has already been changed, that is, there are the same businessmen there as he is, but theses are put forward that contradict business, or rather private property, which was so sought in 91!
      I am neither a communist nor a capitalist, I share the idea of ​​a social society, but someone must pay for a social society! pay sternum, zapchak and others like that, or the society itself should be organized so that its structure is social in relation to the whole society!
    14. Ksr82
      Ksr82 27 January 2018 01: 13
      +6
      Have you personally seen this? Or did they tell you about it on kissel-tv? It’s easy to record a person operating with facts only. It is much more difficult to mislead someone who understands trends. In the article, if you read it, it says.
    15. basmach
      basmach 27 January 2018 10: 14
      10
      Yes you got with 7 lards. Read carefully. According to the law, the FULL value of the block of shares is reported, and not the unit value and their number. But lovers of "fried" facts (similar to fireworks) are not interested. They multiply the total cost by the quantity and flew the "news." The CEC would NEVER register Grudinin, if not for the slightest jambs. Congratulations, Mr. "lie!"
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 27 January 2018 10: 56
        +6
        Zadolbali already homegrown lawyers:
        Quote: basmach
        According to the law, the FULL value of the block of shares is reported, and not the unit price and their number

        Right This applies to a single piece of paper - Appendix 3 to the Federal Law “On the Election of the President of the Russian Federation”. Here is this piece of paper:


        By the way, for column 9 (stocks) it still says “price per share”, og yes
        And here is a piece of paper submitted by a forgetful candidate to the CEC:

        It is easy to see that this application is not related to “Appendix 3”. And, therefore, no "laws" of her ... justify request
        How much does the indicated EVRAZ Eurobond cost - look on the Internet, the result will ... amuse you, I guarantee.
        Quote: basmach
        The CEC would NEVER register Grudinin, if even the slightest jambs

        Damn, like children laughing
    16. kotvov
      kotvov 27 January 2018 12: 28
      +5
      told you about sands about billions? It has already been denied dozens of times, but you are either too lazy to figure it out or you need to promote this lie.
    17. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 27 January 2018 13: 02
      +2
      bumped 7 billion rubles, this is in a country where the attitude to the nouveau riche is unambiguous!

      At the same time, "hold the thief!"
      In general, there is nothing here to post articles about him, to forget him and everything, all the more so on a military review there is nothing for any "heaped up" place.
    18. krops777
      krops777 27 January 2018 18: 00
      +2
      The Kremlin is afraid of Grudinina? It turns out that yes!


      The Kremlin can sleep peacefully, the CEC will draw its 146% wink
    19. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 28 January 2018 16: 15
      +2
      There are no billions there. This lies have already been exposed.
    20. avia1991
      avia1991 28 January 2018 20: 46
      +2
      Quote: Salute
      bumped 7 billion rubles, this is in a country where the attitude to the nouveau riche is unambiguous!

      Maybe enough already bare back on broken glass? Well, find the strength in yourself to understand the real situation! Everything has been chewed-chewed for a long time, and no 7 lards were close there! Wake up, Mr. Zombie! Discover already something else, except RIA "Russia Today", enough to swallow swill central media! When did they write the TRUTH there? .. Although, if you do not care, if only in the wake of power .. a flag in your hands.
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    21. Sergey Horuzhik
      Sergey Horuzhik 29 January 2018 10: 58
      +3

      kolubnikonizm-bright future of all mankind!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 30 January 2018 21: 23
        +2
        You are just a terry Kremlin troll who is not interested in real facts, his task is to denigrate the “Goal” in every way, and it does not matter that almost everything is an outright lie!
        .
        Quote: Turkir
        A rebuttal was given, but of course you did not read it.
        Flag in hand, wretched. You get 30 pieces of silver after the election. MAY BE..
    22. Turkir
      Turkir 29 January 2018 13: 18
      +2
      If he "snooped" 7 billion, he would not become a presidential candidate.
      A rebuttal was given, but of course you did not read it.
      1. sapporo1959
        sapporo1959 29 January 2018 16: 50
        +1
        Well, violent patriots do not read such things! They were told that seven billion so they procrastinate their usual nipple ...
    23. KVP1
      KVP1 31 January 2018 10: 13
      +3
      About billions of Grudinin was asked more than once, and he replied that there were no billions. But to compare Grudinin with Sechin, Miller, or any head of state corporations receiving the so-called a salary of hundreds of millions a year, in terms of relations with their employees and neighbors in the yard.
    24. stopkran
      stopkran 1 February 2018 13: 36
      0
      It is not surprising that the renegades from the Communist Party harnessed themselves to the world-eater Grudinin.))

      If the party’s program does not contain a provision on the “dictatorship of the proletariat” (the power of the working people, not parasites), then such a party cannot be called communist. The commies have long turned into renegades and sucking democrats, but continue to deceive the workers with populist slogans.

      The term "dictatorship of the proletariat" was excluded from the program of the CPSU with the filing of the uninhabited Trotskyist Khrushch, at the XXII Congress (1961), when the party promised to build communism in the country by 1980. There is no thesis about the "dictatorship of the proletariat" in the CPRF program since its inception in 1992.
      # # # # # #
      Question of the dictatorship of the proletariat. Professor Popov. "Ideological struggle", part 5.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amWRM3iHO8w
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 1 February 2018 15: 16
        0
        Quote: stopkran
        If the party’s program does not contain a provision on the "dictatorship of the proletariat"

        do not you think that this is somewhat outdated, although this concept was initially erroneous ?!
  2. Troll
    Troll 26 January 2018 15: 09
    +9
    An interesting man, with charisma, and after the transfer from Solovyov, I was ready to vote for him. But he turns out to be a liar .. so I won’t give my vote for him. And whether he is a communist or not, hmm ... no difference
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 26 January 2018 16: 13
      26
      Quote: Troll
      An interesting man, with charisma, and after the transfer from Solovyov, I was ready to vote for him. But he turns out to be a liar ..

      Are there really crystal-clear candidates? This is fiction (s).
      so I won’t give my vote for him.

      Vote for another liar, his, trusted?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 33
        0
        Awl for soap change?
        Or a tit in the hands of a crane in the sky?
        Enough is enough.
        1. Petr1968
          Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 45
          +3
          Quote: Mestny
          Awl for soap change?
          Or a tit in the hands of a crane in the sky?
          Enough is enough.

          REVISIONS - money down the drain. Who needs them here, ANYONE. Give it a day off simply.
    2. populist
      populist 26 January 2018 20: 39
      13
      Troll
      An interesting man, with charisma, and after the transfer from Solovyov, I was ready to vote for him. But he turns out to be a liar ..

      Well, where is the evidence of this lie. lol
    3. KVP1
      KVP1 31 January 2018 10: 17
      0
      Is it crystal clear? And which of the presidential candidates is 100% honest? And what lies Grudinin's lies, billions? So this is the fantasy of journalists.
  3. kaschey
    kaschey 26 January 2018 15: 11
    +9
    I won’t be surprised if it doesn’t reach the elections .....
    1. Vladivostok1969
      Vladivostok1969 26 January 2018 15: 17
      +7
      I think it's worth trying anyway
    2. Berber
      Berber 26 January 2018 16: 09
      +1
      He will lose anyway. And all this noise is around so that the GDP wins with a clear advantage. GDP needs carte blanche.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 10
        12
        Quote: BerBer
        GDP needs carte blanche.

        I’m just looking at why he issued a decree on raising the minimum wage from May 1, 2018 to a living wage ... belay Vote! And then you lose! ... In the sense that you will not receive. Let's see, something is not heard about the lump sum payment of 5 rubles to pensioners ... request lol
      2. populist
        populist 26 January 2018 20: 45
        +9

        1
        Berber
        And all this noise is around so that the GDP wins with a clear advantage. GDP needs carte blanche.

        There will be no carte blanche even with a turnout of 190% and 200% for. Instead of development, there will be decay. Well, what kind of rotten carte blanche belay at least take a break.
  4. Masya masya
    Masya masya 26 January 2018 15: 28
    15
    A fair court, which will be on the side of the law, citizen and society - we do not need this? Decent salary? Even if not free, but secondary and higher education in general, and not a fiction in the form of a slurred diploma paper? Free medical care? Real again, and not a fiction, after which you are welcome to private clinics where the same doctors work?

    And most importantly, Grudinin gives the impression of a person who is able to bring all this terrible dream of a modern Democrat to life.

    oh oh came, saw, won! wink election promises, these are only promises ... we heard more than once we know ...
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 26 January 2018 15: 45
      38
      Are you talking about Putin’s promises for the past 18 years? ... then it’s absolutely true ... you were not mistaken ...
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 26 January 2018 15: 49
        14
        Sorry, obviously, during these 18 years you began to live much worse than before Putin ... I can’t argue ...
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 26 January 2018 16: 02
          29
          compare with 1913 ...
          what are the economic successes of China, India and Vietnam, and the rest of the world did not stand still and compare with our achievements over the 18 years of the stabilizer ...
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 26 January 2018 16: 05
            +6
            We go our own way wink and do not look for easy ways! yes
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 28 January 2018 20: 53
              +1
              Quote: Masya Masya
              We are going our own way and are not looking for easy ways!

              . belay Sorry, Mr. Abramovich, they didn’t recognize it right away!
          2. AlexKP
            AlexKP 26 January 2018 16: 05
            +8
            Well, enlighten, announce, so to speak, the entire list, and we will compare.
          3. Petr1968
            Petr1968 26 January 2018 16: 46
            +5
            Quote: kepmor
            what are the economic successes of China, India and Vietnam, and the rest of the world did not stand still and compare with our achievements over the 18 years of the stabilizer ...

            Who has his peninsula appeared during this time?))
            1. Romey
              Romey 26 January 2018 18: 37
              +9
              Quote: Petr1968
              Quote: kepmor
              what are the economic successes of China, India and Vietnam, and the rest of the world did not stand still and compare with our achievements over the 18 years of the stabilizer ...

              Who has his peninsula appeared during this time?))

              Are you sure that another Burkhalter will not come, and Crimea will again miraculously turn out to be Ukraine? I personally do not. Here is how you say after such words, sho ce Ukraine? But you have to ... Yes, and that you can’t believe in the purity and purity of the scalar braces with the sim peninsula of dear Vladimir Vladimirovich. Maybe it’s not about the scraps, but in the tourist industry and real estate on the South Coast ?! What can’t you do for the sake of dear friends ... Here, by the way, a bridge was suddenly needed ... How does GDP like it at a press show? How not to cheer for your beloved man? More precisely men. Especially if the little men carry the name Rotenberg.
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 28 January 2018 20: 56
              +3
              Quote: Petr1968
              Who has his peninsula appeared during this time?))

              On a platter, the residents themselves presented. I didn’t even have to strain a little .. and during these four years of enthusiasm the Crimeans diminished: they escaped from some oligarchs - others came ... what’s the behavior of Sber!
          4. Foxmara
            Foxmara 26 January 2018 17: 54
            +4
            Quote: kepmor
            what are the economic successes of China, India and Vietnam, and the rest of the world did not stand still and compare with our achievements over the 18 years of the stabilizer ...

            It can be compared with Poland, which was swollen 100 yards and without much sense, and 3 skins were torn from us, according to the logic of "partners", the person to shoot should be digging the grave himself.
            China is also an interesting example.
            There, the Communists did not surrender the country, like our ZU, but reformatted it, wisely using the trend to transfer the production of the West, before it was too late, just as the GDP did everything quietly until it was too late to break it.
            Korea.
            Are any of you ready to work for the good of the country 18 hours a day with 3 days of vacation? If necessary, quietly die at work under the slanting looks of colleagues? If so, why are you still on the site ?! March Arbeiten!
            India. You were there? There are still such specialties as linen washers, moreover, it is washed by hand and this is a * prestigious job for a certain caste.
            Here, the half-educated people came to the site ... - where do you get it ???
            1. alexhol
              alexhol 26 January 2018 19: 33
              +9
              When he "started" at the time 10 years ago, having left the sovereign service in private structures. then you had to get up at 4-5 in the morning - to draw up documents before eight, then work at the office before lunch, signing documents with the customer, in the afternoon and before sunset - installation and repairs. The day off is only Sunday. On this day, I had enough of a half bottle of beer at dinner to "cut out." Vacation? For the first five years, not a single day. Then no more than 5-7 days "at a time." For the first time for two weeks I allowed to go to a sanatorium 1,5 years ago to have a rest. And there are enough people like me in Belarus. Even those who work in government are in a hurry or to work part-time. or in small towns have their subsidiary farm "hectare of another land."
            2. Pax tecum
              Pax tecum 26 January 2018 21: 20
              13
              Nietzsche: "A man who cannot have two-thirds of the time, purely for himself, should be called a slave." And he is right.

              And in the 1952 year, Comrade Stalin, in his work “The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR”, raised the question of switching to 5-6 an hour’s working day so that the citizens of the country could spend the rest of their time on their personal lives, development and leisure.
              “It is necessary to achieve such a cultural growth of society that would ensure all members of the society comprehensive development of their physical and mental abilities, so that members of the society have the opportunity to receive an education sufficient to become active workers in social development, so that they have the opportunity to freely choose a profession, and not to be confined for life, due to the existing division of labor, to one particular profession ...
              ... For this, it is necessary, further, to radically improve housing conditions and raise the real wages of workers and employees at least twice, if not more, both by directly raising the wage and, especially, by further systematically lowering the prices of consumer goods. ”
              And then!
              What now?
              1. alexhol
                alexhol 27 January 2018 15: 19
                0
                Dear, Nietzsche did not have a family. This was a sick person with a sick psyche. He certainly has a lot of sayings and aphorisms, which I also liked to declare in my youth, but this person ended his life in a psychiatric clinic and therefore his opinions are good only for young nihilists.
                Judging by the fact that you rely on the works of Stalin, I can assume that you are no more than 25-30 years old. Time is inexorably passing and fewer people are left who remember how they worked for the "sticks", about dawn to dawn, without holidays and weekends. Receiving a salary once a year and then mainly products. The city was also not very fun - since 1940 work without days off, and half of the earnings on bonds of the State loan. This is the real slavery. This is what was in reality, not on paper.
            3. avia1991
              avia1991 28 January 2018 21: 43
              +2
              Quote: Foxmara
              There the Communists did not surrender the country, as our ZY

              Zyuganov, with all his desire, could not save the country, since they “surrendered” it without his consent - as well as against the will of most of us. Teach History, otherwise it seems to have started in 2000 in your year.
              Quote: Foxmara
              Korea.
              Are any of you ready to work for the good of the country 18 hours a day with 3 days of vacation?
              Where have you seen about the "18 hours", I can assume. But it is impossible to draw such global conclusions from ONE publication about ONE person?! ... Or is it possible? If it’s more convenient for you wassat
              approximately 47% of the employees who were the subject of a study by Job Koria work on average 9 to 10 hours a day. Approximately 24% of employees work from 11 to 12 hours, and 6% generally work 13 to 14 hours a day. And only 22% of employees have a working day of 8 hours or less.

              http://vestnik.kr/society/306.txt

              At the same time, the legislative work week is set much less - but people work because they are paid overtime for processing. Tell us, where do we OFFICIALLY pay high salaries in Russia?
              Quote: Foxmara
              India. You were there?
              And you? Have you been? They traveled all over, visited all the slums - and are they ready to objectively judge the level of their development ?! Really ?! belay Look for information about their success in the IT industry? This is an example. As for availability
              Quote: Foxmara
              specialty linen washers
              - so we have it too. But we, it seems, were far ahead of the underdeveloped India .. and here we are comparing? Or are we already starting to lag? (True, thank God, this has not yet come to that - but hey: Putin will have another 6 years in case of "success" in the elections! He will manage to finish it ..)
              Quote: Foxmara
              the trend to transfer production of the West

              the Chinese didn’t pick up like we have Mr. Putin and Co. Western companies were placed in rather strict conditions: staff training, participation of (significant) state, technology, etc. On the other side - the unprecedented cheapness of the workforce - this is what capital pecked at. In addition, a strong government guaranteed the observance of the interests of capital, which is not particularly provided for us. But take an interest .. yes no: just open "Aliexpress" and see how many products of unknown brands are there? I will tell you a terrible secret: THIS IS ALL OWN CHINESE PRODUCTION! These are the technologies that came from the West, and were introduced by THOSE CHINESE ENGINEERS who were trained in the West! Can you give an analogy with Russian successes? No? Then do not "blow" like
              Quote: Foxmara
              in the same way, the GDP did everything quietly until it was too late to break it.

              They ... which we did not do the same - because this is done not in the interests of "improving the well-being of the people" (the main goal of the Communist Party of China), but in the interests of grouping the near-Kremlin "court" oligarchs, and closest "friends".
              So do not tell us tales - we ourselves can.
              Quote: Foxmara
              Here, the half-educated people came to the site ... - where do you get it ???

              hi
            4. KVP1
              KVP1 31 January 2018 10: 29
              +1
              And to compare with the USSR the period from 1924 to 1941, the post-war disruption, sanctions are much tougher than the current ones. in 17 years, industry, the system of education (free), healthcare (free), and sports have been restored. And what has been created over 17 years since 2000?
        2. Esoteric
          Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 16
          12
          Quote: Masya Masya
          Sorry, obviously, during these 18 years you began to live much worse than before Putin ... I can’t argue ...

          You reminded me of a situation when a man who fell into a hole with shit is dragged to the surface. Here came the head ... belay She is asked: - Do you feel better? “Much replies, man,” now I can breathe. - Well, okay, by 2035 we will raise completely ... lol
          It is a pity that embezzlers and corrupt officials live even better in the country.
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 26 January 2018 18: 23
            +8
            I just remember how I grabbed at any part-time job where they gave a pretty penny ... because at the main job they paid wages with socks, they don’t bear to wear ... really a hole with crap !!! You are right ... but that Grudinin promised us such that others did not promise? Why should I believe him?
            1. free
              free 26 January 2018 22: 27
              +8
              Quote: Masya Masya
              I just remember how I grabbed at any part-time job where they gave a pretty penny ... because at the main job they paid wages with socks, they don’t bear to wear ... really a hole with crap !!! You are right ... but that Grudinin promised us such that others did not promise? Why should I believe him?

              Yes, you believe those who hang noodles on your ears from the TV!
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 26 January 2018 16: 34
      30
      Quote: Masya Masya
      oh oh came, saw, won! election promises, these are only promises ... have heard more than once we know ..

      Here I am talking about the same thing, Putin has already been tortured to promise promises, let the rest-raiser rest ..
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2018 16: 44
        10
        Putin has already been tormented to promise promises, let the rabbler rest ..


        welcome drinks

        Rest of course, after 2024 laughing while a lot of work)

        Sling cutter, you are a seasoned military, do you really believe in the victory of a billionaire in this election, with living Putin?)


        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 26 January 2018 16: 58
          33
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          Rest of course, after 2024

          Hi! hi drinks
          He will not stay until 2024, in any case.
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          do you really believe in the victory of a billionaire in these elections, with living Putin?)

          Do you believe that Putin receives less than his subordinate sechin? Yes, and tired of these marmots, bears, dvorkovich, Siluyanov and naibulin.
          And Grudinin does not have any billions - this is a Kremlin bot fake. yes
          1. Foxmara
            Foxmara 26 January 2018 17: 57
            +8
            Quote: Stroporez
            He will not stay until 2024, in any case.


            He will outlive us all bully
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 26 January 2018 18: 03
              11
              Quote: Foxmara
              He will outlive us all

              God forbid! yes
            2. Pax tecum
              Pax tecum 26 January 2018 18: 05
              +6
              Quote: Foxmara
              Quote: Stroporez
              He will not stay until 2024, in any case.


              He will outlive us all bully

              Sorry, but I’ll joke too, even though it will be “black” humor ...
              Indeed, He will survive all of us, together with the Government and the elect ONLY in the event of a massive nuclear strike against us. For, they have TAM the best bunker.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 26 January 2018 21: 08
                +2
                For, they have TAM the best bunker.

                Look what ... take away immediately! And convey to popular bloggers, democratic journalists and Petr1968.
                Because everyone knows that all of the above is of primary value to the country. not Putin.
              2. Foxmara
                Foxmara 27 January 2018 11: 26
                +2
                Quote: Pax tecum
                Indeed, He will survive all of us, together with the Government and the elect ONLY in the event of a massive nuclear strike against us. For, they have TAM the best bunker.

                What's the point ?? Live in a bunker for the rest of your life? Then, I suspect current technologies can fill up the bunker in such a way that there is an amba.
            3. avia1991
              avia1991 29 January 2018 00: 26
              0
              Quote: Foxmara
              He will outlive us all

              Who would doubt that! He will fight with world capital until the last Russian! .. And then he will surrender to the mercy of the winner.
          2. _person_
            _person_ 28 January 2018 23: 41
            +1
            Well, if you are against Siluanov, Medvedev, Surkov, Nabiullina, Dvorkovich - do not choose them for president here and Putin?
            And about Grudinin - he has billions - no, this is not even the most important thing.
            How did Pavel Nikolaevich say about V.I. Lenin, “the founder of MY state farm”?)) Yes, the founder that hour “turned over in his grave” in the mausoleum.
            Or I also liked one of the Communist Party propagandists to journalists in the presence of Grudinin - "they had billions (probably about PN Grudinin and Co.) and 2 of them they invested in kindergarten." Maybe not literally reproduced, but the essence is this.
            Yes, in the framework of the upcoming struggle for the presidency, 2 billion from the gentleman’s shoulder - it’s not a pity, they will return quickly if successful, and what a pooh a trifle, we have billions! And how is it that the clicks from the Communist Party consider it normal to move such guys into power? This respect for their electorate is such a humiliating attitude, they consider that the flight is normal - as people say in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and other Russian parties, people are shitting.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 29 January 2018 00: 32
              +3
              Quote: _man_
              "they had billions (probably about P.N. Grudinin and Co.) and 2 of them they invested in kindergarten."

              Only a ram - well, or an ardent Putinist - can turn this way around. The state farm built from its profit for the children of their workers Kindergarten. And it was not done "yesterday"! And when there was no question of nominating Grudinin as president. But you also need to pervert everything, cheat! That's right: "why own a kindergarten for a state farm? Someone should have my children go to the state-owned, and theirs - to their own, beautiful and comfortable?" So, in your opinion, comes out? wassat
              1. _person_
                _person_ 31 January 2018 18: 15
                0
                Greetings!
                Quote: avia1991
                Only a ram - well, or an ardent Putinist - can turn this way around.

                If you are so relaxed to ignore information that is strikingly different from the picture drawn in your own head, you can go down to the transition to the individual, in the absence of adequate arguments, your right.
                If essentially:
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYXClAOCe_U
                34 minutes - well, interpret to us the meaning of the statement of this agitator for the "people's leader", in an ideologically verified manner :) so that the reputation of the candidate does not suffer.

                It's funny that you rate it as my twist, although that was what was voiced. Or do you believe that in our country there are billions, especially in those years to which you yourself refer - i.e. long before the election, could they have been received in any other way, except, to put it tolerantly - not in the most legitimate way? The same guys who first actively participated in the collapse of the USSR, then to appropriate national property, and all the income that the state budget used to spend on free education, medicine, the construction of kindergartens, hospitals, housing schools, etc.
                Then, just in time for the elections, to throw dust in the eyes of naive voters in a good sense, with the slogan “I’m pitying your kindergarten / school from your master’s shoulder” from YOUR incomes?
                No, well, of course, everyone has the right to choose those who he likes, incl. probably a presidential candidate.

                Who should go to which kindergarten / school is a separate issue, in my opinion kindergartens / schools should be at the same (high enough) level throughout the country so as not to infringe on anyone's rights. And the children of the so-called political "elite" should be raised there in the same educational institutions as the children of the entire population.
                But the critical question is not how the kindergarten / school should look like, but what kind of knowledge / values ​​/ ideals our youths attach to these institutions.

                And regarding the fact that something was not built yesterday .. did you hear anything about planning? About goal setting? About tactics? Strategies? Long-term goals and technology to achieve them? Was it news to you yesterday that we have the election of the President of Russia in 2018? Do you really think that the presidential candidates of a state like Russia appear just like the devil from a snuff-box yesterday? Judging by the quality of marketing, the set of assets and political elites that fit in with P.N.Grudinin, they have been leading him into big politics for quite some time.
            2. Overlock
              Overlock 29 January 2018 00: 56
              +2
              Quote: _man_
              Well, if you are against Siluanov, Medvedev, Surkov, Nabiullina, Dvorkovich - do not choose them for president here and Putin?

              1. _person_
                _person_ 31 January 2018 18: 16
                0
                From the series - the cat gave birth to kittens - Putin is to blame.
    3. avt
      avt 26 January 2018 18: 31
      +4
      Quote: Masya Masya
      oh oh came, saw, won! election promises, these are only promises ... we heard more than once we know ...

      And I read here even a speech to declare victory ... copied
      Citizens!
      I have a key in my hands.
      Symbol of supreme authority
      which I must pass
      to the new president - Grudinin the Wise!
      HOORAY! HOORAY!
      Enough!
      Fool people with promises!
      It's time to get down to business!
      There is a lot of work ahead!
      We will build the Institute of Higher Mathematics!
      Free showers will open in the country!
      Every resident of Anchuria will have
      own gramophone!
      But today at dawn
      ex ran from the capital
      President of the Republic
      a scoundrel, a puppet and an adventurer,
      Miraflores.
      He fled with a bag in which
      is the whole state of the republic!
      He took away a bag and dancer Isabella!
      I urge all patriots to catch
      this monster in the image of a gorilla
      and return the entire state to the people
      republics!
      One hundred thousand!
      He can only run through Coralio!
      This night.
      Through Coralio tonight ...
      Take the bag away!
      Traveling bag? Which bag?
      Check everyone and everything.
      Waiting for someone to fall asleep ...
      What? Russ!
      Arrow!
      bully
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 26 January 2018 18: 48
        +9
        Quote: avt
        ... copied

        Yes, before sunset my farewell
        hello.
        Traps are everywhere
        he can leave only by a miracle.
        Do you believe in miracles?
        Everything can happen in our country!
        Except for a miracle ... wink
    4. populist
      populist 26 January 2018 20: 48
      +3
      Masya masya
      heard more than once know

      Have you heard? Why are you voting? laughing laughing
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 26 January 2018 20: 56
        +5
        Quote: populist
        Have you heard? Why are you voting?

        Who said? belay
        1. populist
          populist 26 January 2018 23: 31
          +5

          Masya masya
          Who said?

          Masyanya
          1. Masya masya
            Masya masya 27 January 2018 05: 23
            +5
            laughing offset! good + + + + +
      2. populist
        populist 26 January 2018 21: 20
        +5
        I read the list of ships until the middle ...

        Unknowing people judge what they don’t understand.
        This is about the attacks on Grudinin.
        Ales, Requiem.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 27 January 2018 02: 15
          +4
          So knowledgeable people only zagrudinintsy? That is, have already managed to divide into their smart and other worthless fools?
          Wait, yours haven't won yet. Your curators plan is brilliant, I admit - to saddle patriotic ideas instead of liberal ones.
          But I think this time they will not succeed. And therefore, with you.
          1. populist
            populist 27 January 2018 17: 31
            +3
            Mestny
            So knowledgeable people only zagrudinintsy?

            By and large - yes hi Right about the situation in the country, of course.
            That is, have already managed to divide into their smart and other worthless fools?

            Since 1996, managed wink And what bothers you so much? what Do you think the majority is always right? wassat
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 29 January 2018 00: 37
              +1
              Quote: populist
              Do you think the majority is always right?

              Of course! They do not have any other way - after all, they consider the votes .. bully
  5. New
    New 26 January 2018 15: 35
    25
    The article is good, just a comment on the outcome of the election. No one can now know what the election results will be. Many independent resources claim Grudinin’s high rating and the possibility of rigging elections are also in question. Let us recall how Yeltsin rewarded Lebed, but he could simply falsify the result. Why then did Yeltsin enter into an alliance with Swan? Conclusion: not everything is so simple. This gives hope for the outcome of these elections. The more people know about Grudinin, the more supporters he has, for people judge by deeds, and Grudinin has complete order with this.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 51
      +6
      Many independent resources claim Grudinin’s high rating and the possibility of rigging elections are also in question.

      So this is the main feature of the owners of these same "independent" resources.
      If this candidate has a small percentage (and it will be so), a universal howl about unfair elections will immediately rise.
      The task of these organizers is at ANY PRICE to destroy the current government in Russia. Lio through revolutions, or through the illegitimacy of elections.
      Apparently the revolution in its pure form is still in no way, direct assassination attempts too - there remain such rotten rides from the side.
      1. Foxmara
        Foxmara 26 January 2018 18: 01
        +7
        Quote: Mestny
        Apparently the revolution in its pure form is still in no way, direct assassination attempts too - there remain such rotten rides from the side.

        Notice how many people have appeared on the site and everyone is drowning for Breast.
        Registration September 2017, December 2017, January 2018.
        Well, not counting such as a sling cutter - this is an old military)
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 26 January 2018 18: 23
          12
          Quote: Foxmara
          Well, not counting such as a sling cutter - this is an old military)

          What for! laughing drinks
          I just now saw a picture, a rzhunemaga, in the middle picture, Putin already in the 41st went with epaulettes and wore the Order of the Patriotic War! belay
          And you say honest wassat laughing
          1. Foxmara
            Foxmara 27 January 2018 11: 35
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            I just now saw a picture, a rzhunemaga, in the middle picture, Putin already in the 41st went with epaulettes and wore the Order of the Patriotic War!
            And you say honest

            Well, what are you fooling around with? what

            here is the original))
            http://yarportal.ru/topic782937.html&st=0
      2. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 26 January 2018 18: 13
        +2
        In any case, there will be a lot of stench about illegitimacy, so there is no fear of wolves - do not go to the forest. Such unprecedented measures have been taken (by world standards) to ensure transparency (free viewing of CCTV cameras at the penitentiary system, an open invitation from observers) that this stink will again reek and dissipate.
        There can be no talk of revolution, since all the significant candidates and political forces of a capitalist kind, all these Grudinins and Zyuganov communists (Bolsheviks) are the same as Zhirinovsky, a liberal democrat (in fact, they are Mensheviks - social democrats). By definition, a revolution is accompanied by a change in the political system (February 1917 - from a monarchy to a parliamentary republic, October 1917 - from a parliamentary republic to a Soviet republic, August 1991 - from a Soviet republic to a presidential-parliamentary republic). There is not a single significant political force advocating a change in the political system, and as a result of the elections, the political system has never changed (as far as I know) in the whole world history, it is simply not very compatible with the principle itself.
      3. Esoteric
        Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 24
        +4
        Quote: Mestny
        So this is the main feature of the owners of these same "independent" resources.

        What bad luck? During the elections to the State Duma, primaries were conducted, and creating a “registered” poll by the rating of candidates was a bummer. Look, ask Smirnov, it will not be difficult for him, let him organize it in VO. Let's see, check, feel for strength. At one time on X-Torrents.org it was completely not problematic ... hi
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 26 January 2018 21: 26
          +1
          Given the importance of the topic, there is no way to guarantee that the organizer of the survey, whoever it is, will correct its results in the direction necessary for itself.
          Thus, a form such as a survey in this case cannot be used to create an effective and truthful assessment of the popularity of candidates.
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 39
        +2
        So let them go, they drown further for their Grudinin - their consciousness.
      5. avia1991
        avia1991 29 January 2018 00: 51
        +2
        Quote: Mestny
        The task of these organizers is at ANY PRICE to destroy the current government in Russia.

        If the current liberal-oligarchic power can be destroyed - God grant these organizers success!
        But in general, you yourself do not notice, just after time, like a mantra, repeating the glaring fabulous stupidity, inspired by the power of WHEREOF acting to you? That is, in your opinion, the Military Review website is also a breeding ground for Russia's enemies? After all, here they speak out against the actions of Putin and his economic environment! And even many speak in favor of Pavel Grudinin ..? How can you communicate in such a "Conspiracy Nest" ?! belay Are you sick?
        And about Putin’s success, I’ll repeat the argument that has already been fairly rolled up - but relevant and insurmountable: you tell this to teachers, doctors, kindergarten teachers .. tell scientists - those who are REALLY engaged in science, and not "proud dignitaries" from the Duma and the AP , and the administrative apparatus of universities. Tell the workers of our pride - the enterprises of the rocket and space industry! .. If you leave on your own feet - consider yourself lucky.
        So as not to be unfounded: my wife is a teacher, and deputy. school principal. So, she recently found receipts for her salary for the 2013th year. And it turned out that since then, despite THREE (!!!) salary increases in education, she began to receive LESS! Do not explain how this is possible?
        So - forward and DOWN, the bottom is still far away! But I'm definitely out of the way with you.
    2. saigon
      saigon 26 January 2018 17: 04
      +7
      Good mister, I certainly understand politics is a dirty business and a lie. promise can be hoarse.
      Search in Tyrnete there is a lot about Mr. KPRFeshny candidate and as a character in Edrosovtsy noted and the Liberal Democratic Party remembered someone and from whom he came to the Moscow region or mountains I thought.
      And what kind of things did Mr. Grudin do to the public?
      Oh, something new appeared on the resource and everything for the sternum is straight in rows strange.
      1. onix757
        onix757 26 January 2018 17: 12
        17
        Quote: saigon
        as a character in Edrosovtsy noted and LDPR

        AND...? The guarantor, for example, took the oath, was a member of the party and promised to defend Soviet ideals, and as a result he created Edro.
        1. saigon
          saigon 26 January 2018 17: 20
          +6
          That's about the oath, it’s not worth it, but somehow it’s not beautiful there will be a lot of former SA officers.
          So created Edro created, and not attached to the masters of the Communist Party, the nuance.
          But the Communist Party for me is now dead, it just died.
          And they already saw the former foreman, I'm afraid the agronomist will not be better.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 January 2018 17: 28
        12
        Search in Tyrnet
        but really, dig out how a former communist and employee of the office refused everything, how the cooperative was created, and how the present cooperators now live ...
        1. saigon
          saigon 26 January 2018 19: 38
          +3
          Above, here I wrote a lot of former SA officers and communists by itself, maybe remember them?
          I just find it strange holy faith of adults in the sternum. And who is behind him? I'm not talking about parties and movements, will the army follow such a commander in chief? Will the army team accept it wholeheartedly? The Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, other power structures, he’s his own, will they believe him? And Russia is not such a country as the president, and the emperors were in power while the army was for them. Well, traditions in the country are such a list of murdered emperors I hope you do not need to know yourself.
          the collapse of the USSR was not enough for you, and at such a time, Mr. Grudin was simply not a figure; Omerik, the beloved Libilian, chose a businessman and was delighted.
          Of course, there is no believing in a good and good president promising everyone what everyone wants, but only with good intentions was the road to hell sent.
          My refusal to accept Mr. Grudin stems from one simple reason for accepting the proposal from the gentlemen from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, but there must be at least some minimal decency framework (well, he should not be the capitalist at the head of the Communists) a bad man comes out.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 26 January 2018 21: 01
            13
            the army will go for such a commander in chief
            Did you follow Yeltsin? Gone.
            the collapse of the USSR was not enough for you
            Find the picture where Yeltsin is on the tank, and who is behind him? Correctly the future director of the National Guard. Director! Well, everything is the same as in America.
      3. Esoteric
        Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 36
        15
        Quote: saigon
        Oh, something new appeared on the resource and everything for the sternum is straight in rows strange.

        Your character, who pretended to be an independent candidate, also did not hatch from the CDU / CSU. For 17 years he was a communist, member of the CPSU. In "Our House Russia" at the time of EBN had an entrance ticket. Then, when he was disgusted with everything by EBN (he and his party - the party of looters) they gave another - "Unity", then - "United Russia", then "ONF" belay Putin swore allegiance to capitalism. Let him tell how this economic system contributes to the development of productive forces in society. Marx, apparently messed up something about the bestial nature of capital ... what
        1. saigon
          saigon 27 January 2018 09: 56
          +2
          Everyone convinced me to join the ranks of the sect of admirers of Grudin!
          Yes, I’m not campaigning for Putin, not for him. Only the moral aspects of Mr. Grudin’s act are annoying me. Well, if people go with the anti-corruption program, such as a patriot, everyone has a gingerbread and a jar of honey, so don’t get into the details (the devil is in the details), don’t go the capitalist in the arms with the ideological opponents of the Communists, they are against human exploitation by man!
          Do you want to be the beam of Putin. Start with petty lies and few moral deeds, but about Marx and the essence of capitalism who argues. So, after all, what is the comic nature of the situation of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and is directly embracing with the representative of the bestial essence of capitalism.
          There is no normal alternative to the presidency. You understand all that the Communist Party could offer, the capitalist is out full, it’s just hard to convey without a mat, and here’s the hope of the patriotic forces, the last chance to save the homeland. bonnets in the air and anticipation of everything will be fine.
          Adulthood is taken by adults and such faith in the Sternum.
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 30 January 2018 21: 51
            +6
            Quote: saigon
            Do not go, the capitalist in the arms with the ideological opponents of the Communists, they are against the exploitation of man by man!

            Interesting you reason. In your opinion, it turns out that GrudinIN (stop distorting, ugly, however) had to write himself a salary, like an ordinary collective farmer - and in the 90s (!!!), remaining at the level of an ordinary hard worker, to protect the state farm from the arrivals of everyone who wants to profit - land, primarily from raider attacks, etc. .. You, in general, how do you imagine this? Yes, no one would take him seriously! Remember the ad for Tinkoff Bank? "I am a small business! Ay!" ..While among the wolves, do not pretend to be a ram.
            Quote: saigon
            Yes, I’m not campaigning for Putin, not for him.

            AND FOR WHOM ?? Given that you do not offer any alternative? And at the same time you call:
            Quote: saigon
            Start with petty lies and few moral deeds
            What, let me ask you, is a lie expressed? .. And how do you like the moral character of the incumbent head of state? The principle of speeches of which, in recent years, especially, comes down to an appeal: "Citizens, do not believe your eyes! Everything is fine with us - and it will be even better!"
            And while citizens, having glanced at the same time in their refrigerator - and then in their wallet - are trying to scratch their turnips at a loss, there are still quite a few who are ready to blindly move the same course, not realizing that at the end of the road is a flipper.
          2. KVP1
            KVP1 31 January 2018 10: 47
            +2
            Putin has been leading since 2000. Progress was achieved only in the increase in the number of billionaires per capita and in the volume of natural resources sold, the withdrawal of capital in offshore companies, but the shifts in the quality of life for the majority of the population are not so significant.
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 42
        +4
        They are all members of the circle from the Communist Party - and dancing to a hackneyed record, starting in 1995, Grudinin - forward to a brighter future - for burdocks.
  6. kepmor
    kepmor 26 January 2018 15: 38
    18
    Is the Kremlin afraid? ... why? ... for force majeure, there is a central election commission ...
    there is no magician Churov, but his work lives on ... as much as they want, as much as% and draw ... for the first time or something ...
    so the place of the zagrebny on the gallery has long been booked for the next 6 years ...
    1. Foxmara
      Foxmara 26 January 2018 18: 14
      +4
      Quote: kepmor
      there is no wizard Churov, but his work lives on

      And you would be interested before trading fakes. 146% - it was BLISTER from the blue screen and the comrade announcer immediately quit. But the odor remained and is still being carried by foolish people.
      https://ria.ru/politics/20140917/1024522033.html
      Those elections, if you recall, suddenly turned out to be the dirtiest, moreover, in the field of lighting. Quite a few videos about carousels and other outrages were thrown into the Internet. Clear business without any check - whether in reality. Then on the central channel 146% and swamp started. And remember what composition was there? Fur coats, iPhones, iPads, all the Russian poverty and misery gathered.
      Conclusions have been made.
      On each site on the camera and all. Either carousels or fans of filming about a carousel ended.
      It’s clear that the old trick will not work for these elections. But still, illegitimacy is needed. Here we have the next ram rolled out, which frantically closes accounts abroad on the day of registration lol
      Clear business - he will not pick up. But a bunch of trolls make it look like the candidate is real.
      1. genakster
        genakster 26 January 2018 19: 10
        +1
        All the oligarchs to the presidency, so that they close all accounts abroad!
      2. avia1991
        avia1991 1 February 2018 00: 35
        0
        Quote: Foxmara
        Here we have another ram rolled out

        Ram thatwho stupidly repeats loud statements distributed helpfully by the central media, not wanting to admit their deliberate deceit.
        Look at the USA: they got the news that Russian hackers chose Trump - AND EVERYTHING! Though how to explain - already a crowd of those who believe throats are fighting! You are one of the same: there is no need to include brains - RIA.RU said! And the fact that Kissel is a pure water slime dish is garbage ..
  7. myrzilka
    myrzilka 26 January 2018 15: 40
    42
    And I’ll go to vote for Grudinin. That. what lies - it is necessary to prove. And then we, as opponents of the authorities will start to get out - give evidence. And as a power, in the face of pocket magazines .... yuh, it begins to escalate against opponents - there is no need for evidence. Evidence in the studio, please. But generally tired of this thieves elite. Okay, the thief, so also cowardly immensely. I’m talking about the Olympics, about how Monsieur Zhukov apologized. Grudinin, of course, will not win. This is not even because they will vote a little. Because they will count as it should. But I really want a good kick to our cabin.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 26 January 2018 16: 03
      20
      joining you with my relatives with great desire ...
    2. seos
      seos 26 January 2018 16: 13
      15
      Proof of? Yes, you watch his performances and just analyze his answers ...
      His theses: 1) pass the Donbas, 2) return the Crimea 3) push the rolls in front of the overseas owners ...
      Just listen to him mumble on TV and everything will become clear ...
      He is a Trojan horse slipped by our enemies, to destroy the people of Russia ....
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 26 January 2018 16: 26
        18
        the orderlies from Kashchenko were clearly waiting for you ... I have not read such nonsense for a long time ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 45
          +2
          This candidate is a guy from privatizers and optimizers.
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 1 February 2018 00: 37
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            This candidate is a guy from privatizers and optimizers.

            .... how tired stubborn rams with jammed records ...
      2. onix757
        onix757 26 January 2018 16: 40
        22
        Quote: seos
        Proof of? Yes, you watch his performances and just analyze his answers ...
        His theses: 1) pass the Donbas, 2) return the Crimea 3) push the rolls in front of the overseas owners ...
        Just listen to him mumble on TV and everything will become clear ...
        He is a Trojan horse slipped by our enemies, to destroy the people of Russia ....

        Proof will be? Or for 30 silver coins a slander?
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 26 January 2018 17: 24
        17
        His theses
        Who are you talking about here? About the builder of the Yeltsin Center, so this one is definitely slipped ...
      4. Esoteric
        Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 41
        13
        Quote: seos
        His theses: 1) pass the Donbas, 2) return the Crimea 3) push the rolls in front of the overseas owners ...

        Lies! Video to the studio. I can provide a video where EBN is a ray of light, and his era is a time of victories:
        1. myrzilka
          myrzilka 27 January 2018 00: 49
          +5
          Volodya forgot to cry from Chuyvsts.
      5. Tatanka Yotanka
        Tatanka Yotanka 26 January 2018 18: 42
        11
        Quote: seos
        His theses: 1) pass the Donbas, 2) return the Crimea 3) push the rolls in front of the overseas owners ...

        and you are a specific whistler, this is a serious accusation and give a reference
      6. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 16
        10
        Vladimir Ulyanov Lenin, also arrived in a sealed wagon from Germany. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin was a subordinate of Sobchak, read Yeltsin. I hope that you remember for whom life put EBN? And why did they suddenly think that GDP will not continue the work of those to whom it owes its career growth? Just there was a change in the oligarchic elite. In the 90s there was a gangster mess. Because someone needed it. Now the chaos of officials. Because, someone also needs this.
        Yes, and it’s hard not to raise the country when the oil is 120. And look at the picture now.
        1. _person_
          _person_ 28 January 2018 22: 57
          +4
          Again they started talking about oil for 120! 120 for what? Where did you see her at 120? Why then not 500 or 800 each to enhance the effect?
          Yes, even if they were 120 each, you didn’t wonder why, during the EBN’s years in power, oil was in the range of 10-24 $ / barrel, and when the GDP came to the control, the average price of oil did not fall below $ 20. And after 2004 - for some reason, the average prices "suddenly" became steadily above $ 60 at significant time intervals?
          If you believe in luck - then you get lottery tickets or in a casino.
          If, at least, to study the question a little and analyze why “suddenly” the prices on such a politicized energy market “crept up”, then you would know that our current head of state pulled them to these marks.

          So, exactly since 2004, the so-called Production Sharing Agreement, for which the country’s bowels did not belong to Russia, was canceled by Russia’s GDP efforts, and Western campaigns pumped our resources out of the country for nothing. By the way, as far as I know, Sakhalin-1 and -2 are still working under this "agreement."
          And what a coincidence, as soon as the volumes of "crazy" oil were withdrawn from Russia, and tax deductions began to be fully collected and the treasury arrived, oil prices immediately began to tend to conditionally fair values.
          This is 1 evidence that it was the viability of GDP that allowed Russia to provide itself with sources for further economic growth and the implementation of social programs.
          You can read more about what the PSA is, who lobbied for it and what damage was done to Russia, for example here:
          http://maxpark.com/community/13/content/3464341

          Further, starting in 2014, “suddenly” as an order in continuation of unprecedented political pressure on Russia, as many people naively believe, in retaliation for Crimea, coupled with economic and political sanctions, Western “friends” threw us another “gift” - The next drop in oil prices “began”, accompanied by a powerful PR campaign of the so-called “shale revolution” in the United States, with promises to provide energy carriers to all of Europe and almost the whole world in exchange for Russian oil. At the same time, it was supposedly intended by tankers to supply the United States with “shale oil” in volumes corresponding to the needs of Europe, even as far as I know one or two of these “advertising” tankers actually sailed to Europe. That is, the performance in the form of a special operation-cover seems to be a success ..

          The reaction of Russia followed with lightning speed by historical standards - already in 2015, our VKS destroyed the “oil pipeline on wheels”, which exported stolen Syrian oil in huge quantities to Turkey, where it was already transferred under the guise of Turkish oil to European countries, which in turn pretending not to understand this game, she was happy to buy oil at a low price. A sort of SRP-2, already for Syria, in the hot phase of the war.
          Almost every day, the Russian airborne forces cleared entire convoys of gas tankers heading to the Turkish border, and up to five hundred units of fuel tanks were destroyed in only a few days of operation.

          And then, an amazing thing, suddenly the “ace was blown away”, there is no longer “shale oil” for the EU “from the USA”, no tankers, no refusal of Europe to supply Russian energy carriers, as the problems “with supplies from the USA” began to order.

          No wonder the Americans with the Turks, so hastened to take revenge on Russia by shooting down our Su-24, immediately after a huge number of crude oil tankers were destroyed - one pilot died, another our soldier died during a rescue operation. A low bow to our military for courage and heroism, and the work that they performed so effectively.

          And again - "suddenly" oil prices "crawled up" - again, this lucky GDP!
          This is 2.

          Next is the agreement on the freezing of oil production, concluded during very difficult and lengthy negotiations with and outside OPEC countries, with unprecedented pressure from the West.
          Again, what are you going to do, well, the GDP has gone so far, so it’s gone, if only the EBN would be so lucky or someone else - prices will rise again!
          This is 3.

          Indeed, if you sit on the pope straight and think - and suddenly I get lucky and "suddenly a magician arrives in a blue helicopter" and something there is free - it doesn’t.

          So, in vain you do not appreciate the work of other people, but only demand, demand, and poke in the eye with a stick, without bothering yourself to figure everything out - it’s a good right.
          Personally, for all of the above, only words of gratitude I would like to express to all courageous people who have realized all this and continue to realize it, so that the work of our people is paid more worthily and families are not poor, and our borders and our resources were under strict state control .
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 28 January 2018 23: 17
            +3
            Quote: _man_
            Personally, for all of the above, only words of gratitude I would like to express to all courageous people who have realized all this and continue to realize it, so that the work of our people is paid more worthily and families are not poor, and our borders and our resources were under strict state control .

            Supper-analysis, we can assume that the blood passed on "everything." And this is without sarcasm "
            And now the question is, should people always be dependent on the production of hydrocarbons, the sale of wood, semi-finished products from the nickel, TOPs in the Far East and Usman GOKs?
            I declare to you that literally in a year all these achievements will be raised to the pitchfork, realizing where the descendants' money went! soldier
            1. _person_
              _person_ 31 January 2018 21: 26
              +1
              Greetings! In order not to depend on production or someone else / something, people should wake up and actively participate in the life of the country, constructively, thoughtfully, steadily realizing their interests. And for this, each person must understand and / or be able to analyze and understand, form their own adequate judgment, not only on those simple categories of why oil has "risen in price", but also on management issues in general. Otherwise we will always be
              1. _person_
                _person_ 31 January 2018 23: 32
                +2
                .. drive by the nose and in a circle.
                In the era of I.V. Stalin's reign, industrialization was also carried out primarily through the sale of raw materials (including oil, grain), with these funds we purchased technologies, built factories, power plants, defense industry enterprises, and established technological chains. The quintessence was our leadership in space exploration (the embodiment of the dream of all mankind), which in such a short time after the end of the Great Patriotic War seemed to the West impossible.
                Now where is it all? All these achievements, as you put it, were “raised to the pitchfork” and, at best, some of the enterprises were still preserved as functioning in the Russian jurisdiction - at worst, either liquidated under the net or offshore.

                The people were simply stupefied and fooled, depriving them of income in the form of free education, free medicine, housing, and other social guarantees, which was realized by finding most of the production assets in public ownership, the profit from the operation of which was distributed in favor of the population.
                In return, private property was imposed on society, as a result of which all profits are deposited in the pockets of "effective" owners, and the people are deprived of all benefits.

                Thus, the point is not in dependence / independence on production, and not in the structure of the state’s economy, and indeed not only and not so much in the economy, society can be deprived of all this from higher priorities. And all because the people were not ready / able to recognize those threats and the ways of their implementation that were used both from the outside and from the inside, respectively, failing to respond adequately to these challenges.

                In addition, do not forget that controlling 1/6 of the territory of planet Earth, Russians are forced to bear the burden of responsibility for providing other parts of the planet with resources. The main thing is that this does not take place in the form of plundering the state, but the Russian population receives a fair income from this activity, which would not be redistributed through the banking sector in favor of those in power and would not be transferred to offshore. But at this stage, Russia has as much sovereignty as we all have managed to secure for ourselves. For us, this work to gain full state sovereignty, in order to realize the interests of Russia and its peoples, will not be done neither by the president, nor the prime minister, nor the government, nor anyone else.
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 1 February 2018 00: 41
            +1
            Quote: _man_
            why "suddenly" the prices in such a politicized energy market "crawled" up, then you would know that it was our current head of state who pulled them to these marks.

            laughing laughing laughing !!
            You tell the Saudis, and the Qatars at the same time - here they are neighing!
            1. _person_
              _person_ 1 February 2018 08: 27
              0
              Arguments will be? or as usual torn out of context - and then foolishness - I do not want.
              Read my comment to the end, from which you used citation, it is very concisely but reasonably stated why this statement is adequate to reality. On concrete examples and management decisions.

              Here on the forum show a finger to some, and speaking your language - "here they are laughing!" I think in other states there are also such individuals - that in Saudi Arabia, that in Qatar, only this is unlikely to be evidence of a great mind or understanding.
  8. Loess
    Loess 26 January 2018 15: 47
    17
    Grudinin, Grudinin ... For 15 years, according to him, he reduced a third of workers in connection with the modernization of production. Those. one third of its employees became unemployed. For some reason, he keeps money for the treatment of a relative abroad in the securities of the Western campaign, and not in cash accounts. These are all HIS words. And I did not hear a word from him about the number of jobs created by him. Kindergarten and school are good, I hope they will remain available and free after the election. The school was built in the 2017 year, a kindergarten after the 2012 election. Prepared for the election or tried for people? However, perhaps he combined the pleasant with the useful. That is why so? He seemed an interesting candidate, looked, listened to what and how he was talking and was disappointed. I thought Putin was a competitor, but really Navalny and Sobchak he was a competitor.
    1. woron333444
      woron333444 26 January 2018 17: 45
      +7
      Abramovich built a kindergarten and school for residents of elite villages built on the lands sold by Grudinin. I watched a video where children are brought to school on gelenvagenami. But certainly not the collective farmers.
      1. SEER
        SEER 29 January 2018 09: 49
        +1
        Quote: woron333444
        Abramovich built a kindergarten and school for residents of elite villages built on the lands sold by Grudinin. I watched a video where children are brought to school on gelenvagenami. But certainly not the collective farmers.

        "in the village" State Farm named after Lenin "officially opened a private kindergarten" Castle of childhood ".
        Kindergarten "Castle of Childhood", which the Minister of Education of Russia Dmitry Livanov called the best in our country, was built by the company "State Farm named after Lenin". Private educational private institution is designed for 120 children - these are 6 groups. The cost of one place in a kindergarten is 21800 rubles a month, but the state has already bought 98 places from a kindergarten, thereby making them municipal "

        and found it, with links / documents and analysis:
        "A tit for the Lenin State Farm. Municipal ..."
        https://cont.ws/@glavbushka/808987
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 52
      16
      Quote: Less
      Grudinin, Grudinin ... For 15 years, according to him

      Putin, Putin ... In his affairs, the number of oligarchs in the country (billionaires) has increased from 61 to 96 with a total fortune of over 400 billion dollars. Between 2000 and 2017, the country's population did not reach the 1990 level. According to Rosstat, inflation in the country from 2000 to 2018 amounted to over 502%. The population living below the poverty line is 20 ... I wonder if Putin will be able to drive us for another 000 years? So let him vote for him who became better.
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 26 January 2018 19: 52
        +5
        I felt better, I will vote for Putin. Businessmen should do business, not get into politics. There was one such - Khodorkovsky. How is Grudinin different from Khodorkovsky?
        1. myrzilka
          myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 18
          12
          But security officers must identify enemies and not steer the country.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 27 January 2018 02: 17
            +3
            And the directors of state farms should think about how to increase strawberry productivity, and not get into control of the state.
            1. Old
              Old 27 January 2018 12: 58
              +8
              And what are the people who are immediately born presidents?
              By the way, in addition to engineering, Grudinin also has a legal education. Plus he was recognized as the best practicing economist. He had more experience of political and social activity than was the GDP at the start.
              Power must change, this is the law of development.
      2. free
        free 26 January 2018 22: 34
        +9
        Quote: Esoteric
        Quote: Less
        Grudinin, Grudinin ... For 15 years, according to him

        Putin, Putin ... In his affairs, the number of oligarchs in the country (billionaires) has increased from 61 to 96 with a total fortune of over 400 billion dollars. Between 2000 and 2017, the country's population did not reach the 1990 level. According to Rosstat, inflation in the country from 2000 to 2018 amounted to over 502%. The population living below the poverty line is 20 ... I wonder if Putin will be able to drive us for another 000 years? So let him vote for him who became better.

        So they vote, Jackie and Petrov and others are golovan, they are afraid of losing a piece or a bone in no way.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 22: 54
          10
          Quote: free
          So they vote, Jackie and Petrov and others are golovan, afraid of losing a piece or a bone

          Hey ... starving civil servant.
          I will feed myself under any authority. Because I’m not afraid of work, and I can do a lot. And health is still there.
          And here is what you will do when the buns in the store stop growing - you think it yourself.
          And I definitely will not vote for the clownfish with the smell of strawberries. Since I am accustomed to thinking, and I can count well. He does not make ends meet, nowhere. And no way. The clownfish is under external control.
          IMHO, yes yes
          1. free
            free 30 January 2018 21: 10
            +3
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: free
            So they vote, Jackie and Petrov and others are golovan, afraid of losing a piece or a bone

            Hey ... starving civil servant.
            I will feed myself under any authority. Because I’m not afraid of work, and I can do a lot. And health is still there.
            And here is what you will do when the buns in the store stop growing - you think it yourself.
            And I definitely will not vote for the clownfish with the smell of strawberries. Since I am accustomed to thinking, and I can count well. He does not make ends meet, nowhere. And no way. The clownfish is under external control.
            IMHO, yes yes

            But I’m not envious, and I don’t need to earn your money, I’m happy for you. I don’t run from work either. I just want order, justice and a future for my children, with the current government this is impossible!
            1. yehat
              yehat 30 January 2018 23: 55
              0
              the quest for justice always ends badly
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 1 February 2018 00: 53
            +2
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            The clownfish is under external control.

            If you are talking about Putin, then YES, I completely agree!
            And for the money it’s true - they ... he doesn’t agree: he feeds the people "average in the country", and he is terribly proud of it - and God grant the majority (overwhelming!) 50% of this average!
            Recall, at least, the calculation of the right to receive benefits for the first child, which was SO promptly promised to the people? Is Sikoka there average per capita to enter the "Circle"? .. About 15 thousand. So if the husband and wife work, how much do they get at the same time? .. And most of them.
            As for "I can do everything" - do not get excited: Your "amazement" is claimed only if there is effective demand. And taking into account its real stable decline, I’m afraid that in case of force majeure (I don’t wish you, don’t think!) You will demonstrate your skills for “thank you” hi
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 56
          +4
          Loafers like you, with any power will be bad and enviable, if not cool.
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2018 23: 47
        +4
        I felt better, so I will vote for Putin. And inflation is now 2,5%.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 27 January 2018 00: 11
          +6
          Quote: Vadim237
          And inflation is now 2,5%.

          Ukh ... For a long time? laughing
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 27 January 2018 09: 28
            +3
            Hope that forever is in your best interest.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 27 January 2018 10: 15
              +3
              Quote: Vadim237
              Hope forever

              For almost 30 years I do not hope. Gasoline costs less than in the USA. So they will increase it.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 27 January 2018 20: 16
                0
                Spending on the defense industry, social programs and everything else, requires large revenues to the budget, and where to get them - money is needed now, excise taxes on fuel - more than half the cost of a liter of gasoline - grandmas that companies pay to the state.
                1. free
                  free 30 January 2018 21: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Spending on the defense industry, social programs and everything else, requires large revenues to the budget, and where to get them - money is needed now, excise taxes on fuel - more than half the cost of a liter of gasoline - grandmas that companies pay to the state.

                  But it wasn’t better when the company was one state-owned and 100% went to the budget? Now imagine this on a statewide scale and in all major industries. You look and don’t have to break your brain where to get the money. Ahead of your answer, I’ll tell you a secret "in power are precisely those who destroyed the Union.
              2. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 4 February 2018 14: 56
                0
                c which hangover costs less gasoline? you do not know the price !!!!
                do not believe? and count: 1 gallon (4,5 liters if that) costs the most expensive 3 dollars 40 cents, and our quality will not work there, and at the current rate even count the darling!
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 4 February 2018 17: 23
                  0
                  Yeah. Old prices in the head. Well, since gasoline in Russia used to cost about a dollar, then they will catch up to this price. IMHO. wink
        2. free
          free 1 February 2018 08: 11
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          I felt better, so I will vote for Putin. And inflation is now 2,5%.

          Here is a mark for people like you, they always slide to their selfish interests in the end.
  9. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 15: 54
    21
    It is extremely funny to watch the "festivities" on the VO:
    Quote: New
    a new person comes into politics - Grudinin, I had hope and joy that the country has a future

    Yes of course fellow
    Quote: New
    Many independent resources claim a high rating of Grudinin

    I even know what these "resources" are. wink
    Quote: New
    people are judged by cases, and Grudinin’s order is complete.

    Mdja ...
    And this is just the beginning, the day is long yet ...
    Have fun guys ... you only have a month and a half left request
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 26 January 2018 16: 23
      17
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      Have fun guys ... you only have a month and a half left

      Well why a half request one and a half they will have fun before the election, and after the election of a month two three will cry and curse the wrong people. hi
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 41
        +4
        No, not so fast. And only cannon fodder will cry - those who choked on the internet with happiness that there is such a replacement for the hated "regime".
        And those who invented all this on the contrary will happily establish things until they have been selected.
      2. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 21
        +4
        Wrong people will not curse. Once again, they will observe the “correct” vote count for the “correct” candidate.
    2. AUL
      AUL 26 January 2018 16: 48
      19
      And Golovan, from the height of his wisdom, looks at these festivities and makes little sense. True, essentially does not say anything - does not come down to that ...
      In my humble opinion, the more Putinoids scream - "they will choose Putin anyway" - the more the authorities are afraid of Grudinin. Therefore, they frighten us with Maidan, revolution, collapse, and in general we all die!
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 26 January 2018 17: 07
        17
        Quote: AUL
        In my humble opinion, the more Putinoids scream - "they will choose Putin anyway" - the more the authorities are afraid of Grudinin.

        And in my humble opinion, the more sternoids squealing, “here’s the real alternative to Putin,” the funnier they become, they also all die. laughing from the outside it is called the ELECTION CIRCUS WITH HORSES. laughing
      2. St Petrov
        St Petrov 26 January 2018 17: 18
        10
        Therefore, they frighten us with Maidan, revolution, collapse, and in general we all die!


        take it easy. I, putinoid, only burn over you, for example. And to the one who believes in G.'s victory, he would have written out a ticket wassat

        the more authorities are afraid of Grudinin


        if you seriously believe in it - I will mock you after March 18. Like a true putinoid soldier

        There is no sense before - you BELIEVE lol
        1. AUL
          AUL 26 January 2018 17: 29
          11
          Quote: s-t Petrov
          if you seriously believe in it, then I remember your nickname - I will mock you after March 18

          1. And why would you start poking me? We, like, didn’t drink on the Brudershaft yet (I hope we won’t).
          2. The election results published and valid are not the same thing!
          3. You don’t need to frighten me with a banter, I love to fast myself. Moreover, your banter is somehow primitive, not witty (as I managed to notice in your comments).
          1. St Petrov
            St Petrov 26 January 2018 17: 45
            +5
            And why would you start poking me?


            Putinoids with such characters do not know how to conduct conversations love

            Moreover, your banter is some kind of primitive, not witty


            I set aside my trump card by the end of March and lay you like that on the table
      3. You Vlad
        You Vlad 26 January 2018 17: 36
        +7
        Quote: AUL
        In my humble opinion, the more putinoids

        In my humble, you are a rude old man! what
      4. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 18: 15
        +9
        Quote: AUL
        And Golovan ... essentially says nothing ...

        Yes, I'm tired of "talking", to be honest.
        I repeat: Grudinin is nobody, and there is no way to call him. It looks only on the background of exhibits of the panopticon a la Ksyushad.
        I consider ritual dances with tambourines around this "figure" ... unproductive.
        Actually, that's all request
    3. Esoteric
      Esoteric 26 January 2018 18: 55
      +7
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      Mdja ...
      And this is just the beginning, the day is long yet ...

      I know where it comes from ...
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 26 January 2018 20: 34
        +8
        Quote: Esoteric
        I know where it comes from

        I also know where from ... you laughing

        Is free negative
  10. Galleon
    Galleon 26 January 2018 16: 05
    38
    Mr. Pu has a wealth of experience eliminating competitors. When Sergey Glazyev assembled the Rodina party, Pu called him to the office (the Kremlin) and asked him to take Dima Rogozin, the restless good guy, as his assistant to the party. Six months later, this little cuckoo, having spat on and slandered Glazyev, knocked him out of his own party. Now Dima is untouchable and deputy prime minister, there is time and opportunity to shoot Macedonian in his heart.
    Now, a bunch of voluntary assistants, hurrying and bumping into each other, are running to impersonate another competitor in order to please the owner. Everyone in office - everyone runs. But do not run, so get up and set free.
    Here it is - the real action of the power vertical !! Not when once a year Pu on TV repairs the apartments of old people or rescues dying factories - commanding DIRECTLY, because in places of the desert and no power - neither vertically nor horizontally - no one makes and does not make a decision. And here - here it is - the Birnam forest (from Macbeth) of the vertical of power - starting from lackeys with striped sticks - and through the police, the Russian Guard and judges - to the governors!
    That's what is actually built - look.
    1. Neputin
      Neputin 26 January 2018 20: 32
      +3
      Bravo, Galleon! I applaud while standing!
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 27 January 2018 02: 20
        +1
        You can still jump during applause. So they say do the citizens of one neighboring country. They say gigantic successes in the economy.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 28 January 2018 20: 36
          +2
          Quote: Mestny
          So they say do the citizens of one neighboring country. They say gigantic successes in the economy

          But what do we really have, what to brag about?
          And so it turns out that really you have nothing to argue - except "and our deer are the fastest" ..
        2. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 4 February 2018 15: 04
          0
          well, at least they jump there ... and soon we will not have the strength to jump .... request here you see what’s the matter: for what Rosstat is a strong state organization, and ... to learn how to train bags, I was FORCED to admit that the drop in industrial production for the month of November amounted to 2017 of the year .... 4,7% nothing like that? and where do you see stable GDP growth? I don’t even see him under a magnifying glass, but the closure of enterprises is happening before my eyes .... recourse
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 27 January 2018 12: 45
      +2
      Quote: Galleon
      Galleon

      Quote: Neputin
      Bravo, Galleon! I applaud while standing!

      I will join! The best koment of January !!! good
  11. Svetlana
    Svetlana 26 January 2018 16: 18
    13
    I prefer to consider everything that’s happening that way. And, accordingly, consider Pavel Grudinin as a person who, perhaps, is able to stop the stupor and spiritual impoverishment of the country for the sake of the cunning plans of our oligarchs. In general, the Kremlin has something to be afraid of.

    I agree, I’ll add only that from the arrival of this person we also expect the cessation of the country's material impoverishment.
  12. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 26 January 2018 16: 22
    +5
    Nevertheless, the Kremlin seems to have nothing to fear so far. Even if Grudinin gains some good number of votes, in fact Putin will simply offer him a job in the Government, moreover, in a firing place. That is, it will only be a "purchase" of Grudinin and nothing more.
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  14. flicker
    flicker 26 January 2018 16: 27
    +9

    Why not brothers?
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 26 January 2018 16: 34
      21
      Or maybe so? There are clearly more similarities
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 26 January 2018 17: 47
        +7
        And they didn’t stand nearby. Stalin would send his White Sea Canal to build.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 26 January 2018 18: 07
          +6
          Quote: woron333444
          And they didn’t stand nearby. Stalin would send his White Sea Canal to build.

          Nope, I’d shoot for treason!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 27 January 2018 00: 03
            +2
            Even worse - would plant on a strawberry.
      2. Galina Artamonova
        Galina Artamonova 26 January 2018 22: 56
        +2
        Do not insult Stalin by the capitalist!
    2. Esoteric
      Esoteric 26 January 2018 19: 01
      +4
      Quote: flicker
      Why not brothers?

      Come on! What kind of brother is he to us? This is the clerk of the Medvedev-Putin system. Here is a copy of Grudinin:

      yes lol
    3. Tatanka Yotanka
      Tatanka Yotanka 26 January 2018 19: 06
      +4
      Quote: flicker
      Why not brothers?

      I even respect the opponents who argue, fall into rhetoric, but your stupid post is a brain-drained similarity in order to defame, quite in the spirit of the title of the article
  15. Svetlana
    Svetlana 26 January 2018 16: 29
    22
    I am for Grudinin!
  16. Mestny
    Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 36
    +5
    Quote: myrzilka
    And I’ll go to vote for Grudinin. That. what lies - it is necessary to prove. And then we, as opponents of the authorities will start to get out - give evidence. And as a power, in the face of pocket magazines .... yuh, it begins to escalate against opponents - there is no need for evidence.

    Well, if the "popular bloggers" pour tons of power into the swill - then how, do you need evidence, or "everyone knows that anyway"?
    If you blame someone for something, proof is needed. You don’t even need to blame your Grudinin - he says everything he needs before the cameras.
    So no, it doesn’t lie for the most part.
    But the truth is so different from expectations from the "left patriot" that it creates the impression of another mass brainwashing, like a liberal one.
    1. myrzilka
      myrzilka 27 January 2018 00: 52
      13
      I want to introduce the plot. Where a bright representative of the current government shows his mighty intelligence. And now the representatives of this party, the party in power, rule the country.
      And another question, to the adherents of the current government. Why does the president not change the colonial constitution written under the EBN and under the strict guidance of American comrades? Has it been 18 years already? He is happy with everything, or maybe they don’t?
  17. onix757
    onix757 26 January 2018 16: 37
    22
    The first days the Kremlin was in a stupor from the popularity of Grudinin. True, the “Zaoligarhites” quickly found themselves and took up mochilov. Only this lesson is empty, the candidate from the left patriotic forces took a good pace at the start. Liberals in the Kremlin and the Kremlin are not competitors in a fair fight.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 January 2018 00: 04
      +2
      “The Kremlin was in a stupor for the first days” - Probably in your parallel universe.
  18. flicker
    flicker 26 January 2018 16: 42
    10
    As I read the aphorisms of Ilf and Petrov, and there was this: a bald boy with pigtails.
    Then it was funny. Now is not very.
    Hearing, for example: that a billionaire is a candidate from the Communist Party, it's like
    a woman with male genital organs or a man with female genital organs.
    Nevertheless, no arguing against the facts. ... it is a reality.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 26 January 2018 19: 13
      +7
      Quote: flicker
      Hear, for example: that the billionaire is a candidate from the Communist Party

      Here he himself tells and explains:
      1. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 28
        10
        Tells calmly, does not fail. That's who needs to learn from GDP, otherwise at the last meetings with the people, the couple started to fake fake strongly.
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 27 January 2018 02: 30
          +1
          Well, how is he lying? We have nothing to check?
          And then what - to choose it only because it knows how to lie beautifully?
          Yes, the forest at low speed such candidates.
          He reviewed all fragments of his speeches here - the combination of lies, arrogance and cynicism is unprecedented.
          Yes, admittedly, our enemies have not had such a successful project. This one has yet surpassed all bulk.
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            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 27 January 2018 13: 29
              +5
              Quote: Old
              http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov

              And what is this, an "official" site, like? wink
    2. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 4 February 2018 15: 11
      0
      Well, firstly: it’s the central mass media that represent Grudinin’s candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, in fact, he was nominated by a bloc of leftist forces.
      secondly, just the other day I heard a speech by a deeply disrespectful repeat I have a poor gentleman, comrade Zhirinovsky, whom for some reason no one reproaches with a tailor dad or someone he has with him, and even when this clown in the form of an officer came to the rostrum of the State Duma, it was generally a fall .... sad
  19. Head Physician
    Head Physician 26 January 2018 16: 44
    32
    The feeling is that the Kremlin is afraid of all politicians claiming seriousness
    Therefore, characters like Sobchak or Berkova are being dragged into the light of God
    Are they really not afraid of them, are they not afraid of competition?
    This indicates weakness, not otherwise.
  20. ADmA_RUS
    ADmA_RUS 26 January 2018 16: 45
    +5
    Funny note. Where are the numbers of "independent" polls? Who and how did they carry out? Where are the facts?
    And the author openly tries to pull an owl on the globe justifying the violation found. And further, classic manipulative technologies.
  21. Mestny
    Mestny 26 January 2018 16: 46
    +5
    Quote: Galleon
    Here it is - the real action of the power vertical !! Not when once a year Pu on TV repairs the apartments of old people or rescues dying factories - commanding DIRECTLY, because in places of the desert and no power - neither vertically nor horizontally - no one makes and does not make a decision. And here - here it is - the Birnam forest (from Macbeth) of the vertical of power - starting from lackeys with striped sticks - and through the police, the Russian Guard and judges - to the governors!
    That's what is actually built - look.

    In other countries, everything is exactly the same. Even in the USA.
    And only in the heads of the light elves in a vacuum do fair states of equal and fair benevolent people hover.
    Well, even in the heads of patients of some medical institutions.
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 26 January 2018 18: 03
      11
      About once in such a state I once lived. He gave him the oath and was ready to fulfill it. Still ready.
      1. Yngvar
        Yngvar 26 January 2018 20: 47
        +4
        I join your opinion!
      2. Mestny
        Mestny 26 January 2018 22: 06
        +1
        And me, too, something like that.
        And what would it be like that, millions of people had to go through blood, sweat and tears for decades, through civil and world wars, through overworked to the limit and all kinds of hardships.
        Decades and several generations.
        And now this country does not exist, no matter how bitter this fact is, but there is another.
        And when they tell me that you can quickly build what was even better in a very short time, and you just need to vote for the right billionaire and help destroy this country in which I now live - anger begins to boil in me.
        And the only question is - How? Again???
      3. myrzilka
        myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 36
        +8
        That is yes. In me, the "scoop" will never die. Gasoline for two cents, a restaurant "cool" for five rubles. The guys in St. Petersburg for the weekend flew beer to drink on Aeroflot planes. It is not necessary only to say that everyone had small salaries. There were different salaries. At us on "new equipment" guys received 350 scars. During the summer holidays, I received 2 rubles in 375 months. Moreover, he was an unskilled worker.
        Parents traveled south each year to Central Asia. They came from vacation and still had money. All ruined the little things. Jeans, chewing gum, sneakers and other household needs. It was necessary to give all small and medium production to private owners. All subsoil, energy and other "heavy" industries should be left to the state. You look and would live now like in the series "Chernobyl 2-zone of exclusion", in the USSR which is shown there.
  22. Sergey Cojocari
    Sergey Cojocari 26 January 2018 16: 48
    21
    Putin's administrative resource adding up! But. He has a weakness, he is panicky afraid of direct television debate. We must make him participate in them. How? This is the issue of the applicant’s headquarters.
    1. myrzilka
      myrzilka 26 January 2018 23: 38
      +4
      This is not a lordly matter, to take part in debates. Yes, and why, anyway, they will calculate as they should))))
  23. Gardamir
    Gardamir 26 January 2018 16: 48
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    Roman, when did you write an article to the Kremlin, did you send a notice? How are they all together! Especially enchanting, "I trusted him, but he turns out to be a swindler."
    By the way, not a single mutt answered why there are so many crooks in power and everything gets away with it?
    And yet no one even tried to refute your article, a pack of yap gathered.
    Yes, Pavel Nikolayevich is clean in terms of politics; we don’t know anything about him. But we can already judge by the deeds of this. : The Olympics, Koliizurengoy, Treasure and Nabiullina, why the money received from oil was not invested in the development of the country, what are we doing in Syria? Why Krymnash and Donbass not? Mannerheim Board. Yeltsin's Palace of Memory, it’s clear who is with whom Why are their presidents under sanctions exempted from taxes? At I have described what is in sight. But there are questions about medicine, education, science, love for Kudrin’s economy and unwillingness to listen to other economists. And finally, undisguised devotion to liberalism.
    1. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 26 January 2018 17: 52
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      17 years old was an ardent Putinist .. I read comments now ... People ... wake up we are ruled by Thieves and Traitors .. Look around at what happened to the village .. where are the plants ... work ... beggarly salaries and pensions ...
      1. free
        free 26 January 2018 22: 40
        +4
        Quote: plotnikov561956
        17 years old was an ardent Putinist .. I read comments now ... People ... wake up we are ruled by Thieves and Traitors .. Look around at what happened to the village .. where are the plants ... work ... beggarly salaries and pensions ...

        Au Petrov?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 January 2018 00: 07
        0
        People do not want to live in the villages - so they disappear.
        1. free
          free 30 January 2018 21: 22
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          People do not want to live in the villages - so they disappear.

          I’ve been in the village for a long time? Can you tell me why they don’t want to live in the village?
    2. Romey
      Romey 26 January 2018 21: 57