Tricky comments. The media are buried together Grudinina, no one is looking at the electorate

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I haven’t written anything in this area for a long time, but here you don’t want to, but you’ll go over the topic.





Very funny, right, to observe how the leading media rushed to bury Pavel Grudinin. It resembles a hypermarket of some kind: the goods themselves were delivered, they themselves advertised, weighed, packed and paid.

Well, sentenced Grudinina. Everything, they say, merged oligarch. The public did not forgive him the secret and obvious accounts. And in general, it is not a matter for a rich person to go to the polls. As I understand it, only one who has a louse on a lasso in his pocket should go to the elections, so what?

And one more thing I begin to understand. How do we VTsIOM public opinion polls, we all know. But tsiferkami all shake. And nobody cares that VTsIOM has already surveyed 3 (three) thousand people by telephone. Everyone do not care.

The main thing is for Putin: 73,2% of Russians, for Grudinin and Zhirinovsky by 6,1% of the total.

The fact that all the media that have published these results, in the comments (who is allowed) dozens screaming "And we are for Grudinina," is a trifle.

The impression is beginning to take shape that Putin is below 72% and will not fall. More precisely, do not lower. Well, no matter how it was on past 71,73%, it’s impossible on these lower ones.

Discharged down? Well, let's see.

But in general, all this fuss in the state and local state media says only one thing - Zyuganov did a really good move. Otherwise, why such a fuss rose?

So we were told why Navalny and Putin’s goddaughter (Sobchak) were not a cake, but now everyone rushed to the collective farm chairman as if on command. Has the team really passed?

Apparently, yes. But - as always, in a hurry and unprofessional. Found something to blame - the money was abroad. And who, say so, from the powerful of this world is not?

I'm not talking about the latter-day citizens of Malta or Switzerland. I'm just talking about those who keep money where he likes. And about those who have allegedly no accounts.

Yes, of course, we have people who should not have accounts abroad, because they can be arrested, and money can be taken away. So what? Who does it stop? Only, probably, an orphan and stop. And a person who has brothers, sisters, reasonable children, aunts, uncles and other relatives, including brilliant women-businesswoman, has no problems.

Well, who really cares how to act in this case, you can read about Roldugin and Egorov at your leisure as well.

And by the way, I’m talking here without any hitting or envy. I would not be able to work at such a level as an offshore wallet.

So with regard to Pavel Grudinina - really past the box office. It's wonderful that he has money. Although ... 7,5 billion rubles ... I beg you wholesale and retail. Well, is this money?

We have customs in garages, I'm sorry, they store more.

So the non-communist collective farmer Grudinin has nothing to worry about. What the VTsIOM draws there is one thing that in fact is another.

But on the Internet, people say they will vote for him. Yes, to be honest, I will vote. Why not? True, about why yes, we'll talk another time.

The main thing so far is that it is good that the central media began to bury Pavel Nikolaevich like that. Will benefit. As in the movie "Office Romance", remember? “Callers, speak? Then you should definitely take it! ”
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  1. +5
    18 January 2018 23: 26
    Although... 7,5 billion rubles... I beg you, wholesale and retail. Well, is this money?

    Well, yes, I also think, what kind of money is this? Yes, for ice cream.
  2. +7
    18 January 2018 23: 53
    “It’s really funny to watch how the leading media rushed to bury Pavel Grudinin” - but no, you’re being naughty, here he is, more alive than anyone else alive, as Lenin bequeathed, sorting through strawberries. I didn’t see Gorbachev on a combine harvester or Khrushchev dancing in front of Stalin, even though I’ve lived for a long time, but, thank God, I was privileged to see Grudinin. It would be nice to see how he checks his honestly earned money from the sale of the product he collected in foreign banks, and it will become easier to breathe. You can feel this nationality in this immaculately clean white work uniform, in the professionalism of the hand placed on the berries, and the soul just sings from the CHOICE of the people (or maybe someone else?). Hurrayaaaa.
  3. +9
    19 January 2018 00: 19
    I wonder why my quite “snide commentary” expressing my opinion about some similarities between Grudinin and Poroshenko was deleted? Both are oligarchs, both have accounts overseas, both have made money on “sweets,” both, to put it mildly, “lie”... (although for many politicians this is the norm).
    1. +2
      19 January 2018 02: 12
      Due to some similarities, Grudinin and Poroshenko were removed?

      It was precisely because of “certain similarities” that they removed it.
      Maybe they thought that we were talking about ethnic similarity, maybe they thought that we were talking about the similarity of the forces that stand behind these characters, maybe they got scared just in case...? request
  4. +2
    19 January 2018 00: 34
    Quote: Boris55
    He broke the law.

    Well then the Central Election Commission will punish him!
  5. +3
    19 January 2018 00: 37
    Quote: mak_sim
    There’s no point in running for president if you have something to hide and are afraid of annoying journalists.

    Does this apply to Putin? Look for his St. Petersburg stage of life on the Internet. Some witnesses then died suddenly
  6. +2
    19 January 2018 00: 53
    Yes! Whatever you say, the elections this time with the appearance of this so-called oligarch will be a lot more fun! I suspect that in the near future there will be possible dances between Medvedev and Putin at a youth disco... like choose the future!
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 12: 43
      Quote: sapporo1959
      Yes! Whatever you say, the elections this time with the appearance of this so-called oligarch will be a lot more fun!

      Here you, colleague, are completely right. People will have something to do in the next two months laughing , otherwise it somehow became boring, just like A.I. Raikin’s “The house is big, but there’s no one to talk to.” recourse And here the field is wide, and most importantly, not plowed. fellow Everyone can express the power of their intellect and rip their shirt off for a candidate. wassat So go ahead and sing, everything will work out. laughing
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    1. 0
      22 January 2018 10: 34
      but I don’t care where his money is, for example, GDP doesn’t say at all how much money, shares, etc. he has, although apparently he has 20 percent in state corporations... Where is his family, who does he sleep with and where? What are we anyway? Do we know about him? I just know that Kudrin is a former deputy of Chubais and a friend of VVP, who is conducting the CHUBAIS-KUDRIN course in the field of economics
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  9. +11
    19 January 2018 03: 56
    Grudinin for the civil war. The oligarchs just took everything and gave away their money. Yeah. The IOC didn’t let me in, didn’t let me in, and then suddenly let me into the Olympics. Dreams Dreams. Putin does everything quietly and without bloodshed, and slowly, but Grudinina will flood the country with blood, our blood, and dump him over the hill to his billions. In the West, there is hysteria about Putin - it means he is doing everything right.
  10. +1
    19 January 2018 05: 07
    Grudinin can be replaced by DAM. In my opinion, he would do a great job with it. But to lead the Country...
    1. +1
      21 January 2018 11: 00
      Organize some kind of position for yourself, and then you will distribute leading positions.
      1. 0
        22 January 2018 04: 58
        You, sickly one, where did you see the “distribution of positions”? If you are boiling in one place, then I have nothing to do with it.
  11. +3
    19 January 2018 07: 49
    Gentlemen who are tearing their throats out for Putin and throwing mud at Grudinin. To be honest, I don’t understand. Explain to the fool why you are so alarmed? After all, the guarantor has a rating of 75-86%, but who is the “strawberry oligarch” and who will go for him? In your opinion, these are different weight categories. Well, why are you causing such a commotion ahead of time? Yes, Mr. Putin will win, maybe. Don’t spoil your nerves, don’t run ahead of the locomotive, nothing threatens you, relax.
  12. +4
    19 January 2018 09: 41
    Quote: Stas
    Gentlemen who are tearing their throats out for Putin and throwing mud at Grudinin. To be honest, I don’t understand. Explain to the fool why you are so alarmed? After all, the guarantor has a rating of 75-86%, but who is the “strawberry oligarch” and who will go for him? In your opinion, these are different weight categories. Well, why are you causing such a commotion ahead of time? Yes, Mr. Putin will win, maybe. Don’t spoil your nerves, don’t run ahead of the locomotive, nothing threatens you, relax.


    In reality, about 10% are for Putin, the rest is a talking shop that will not be supported by action. In Moscow alone, according to NOD estimates, the oligarchs will release up to a million of their office and other workers at hour X, offended by unfair elections...
    Grudinin’s state farmers, most likely, will not be in the last ranks of the protesters... So, uncle, it’s not all about Putin’s victory, but Grudinin’s defeat... A commotion is brewing, and a big one. Vukraina and its Maidan are nowhere near...
    Let's look at the root, dear...
    1. +5
      19 January 2018 10: 18
      In Moscow alone, according to NOD estimates, the oligarchs will release up to a million of their office and other workers at hour X, offended by unfair elections...
      Grudinin's state farmers, most likely, will not be in the last ranks of the protesters..

      Now and then I see a candidate from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, somehow frightened, and he has already quickly taken the capital out of the border.
      It looks like a sect (not the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, he is from another sect) said it should be - Pavlik said in a whisper to eat, and internally tensed, realizing that he would be in the center of a grandiose racket, and what awaited him...
      may well pass as a sacred sacrifice... a lamb so to speak
      1. +4
        19 January 2018 11: 35
        Quote: flicker
        may well pass as a sacred sacrifice... a lamb so to speak

        But this is interesting. What about Navalny as a dead man, he has already exhausted himself, but if Pasha is killed... And it doesn’t matter before or after the elections. Here they can stir up such a Maidan on this topic that it won’t seem a little. And what, passions According to Grudinin, they are already boiling, feces, boiling water is spilling over the edge. They will warm up the topic a little more and hello-hive, drive the geese. Yes, now you have to carry it in a velvet box, so that God forbid, a fly doesn’t land on it. That zhezh, a female dog, stirred up a toadstool.
        1. +5
          19 January 2018 12: 18
          That's what I'm talking about. It's now fool needs to be saved.
        2. 0
          20 January 2018 12: 29
          So why not immediately throw down the bald man as a sacred victim? Deep down, the patriots of the Russian Federation understand that no one will marry him anywhere.
          Tomorrow, TF Shoigu will appear on the screen and say, “Putin cannot act as president, he is sick, we are calling new elections.” And the patriots of the Russian Federation will humbly say, “Well, that’s how it should be,” and that’s all))))
          1. 0
            31 January 2018 21: 53
            Why is it so disrespectful and derogatory? - “Can’t a bald man be immediately thrown down as a sacred sacrifice?” The people chose him, but what garbage dump did you come out of? What flag are you holding? You should go from here, enemy, to Ukrainian sites, and perform there.
  13. +3
    19 January 2018 10: 56
    The novel, as always, “looks to the root.”
    It is wonderful.
    But one question arises.
    Not for the article.
    But to the point.
    Why do those who, by the will of fate, are elevated to the top of the pyramid of power in our country, keep their savings outside the country? More precisely, beyond the reach of the greedy paws available in this country?
    Don't believe in long-term stay in power? Not righteously acquired?
    That's the question!?
    1. +4
      20 January 2018 03: 34
      Quote: demo
      Why do those who, by the will of fate, are elevated to the top of the pyramid of power in our country, keep their savings outside the country?

      Please, tell us where and in what quantity the savings of the President, Prime Minister, Chairman of the State Duma, and Chairman of the Federation Council are located. After all, these individuals have been elevated to the top of the pyramid of power in the country. Tell me, we all want to know. You can not? So fuck it....why bother???
  14. +5
    19 January 2018 11: 02
    everyone rushed at the collective farm chairman as if on command
    ______________

    Why lie? He is not the chairman of the collective farm.
    He's a huckster, a huckster.
    The article is simply a pathetic attempt to whitewash Grudinin. A kind of miracle worker of social realism.
    More facts will come out, there will be more similar articles.

    And yes, I will not vote for Huckster.
    And yes, the communists really merged, and if they simply got into a complete mess.
    1. +1
      20 January 2018 19: 04
      "Rent, offshores, migrants: three components of the business of communist Grudinin"
      By the way, later a Lifenews representative was still able to ask a question about Grudinin’s income. He replied that media workers, due to ignorance, did not calculate correctly and received non-existent billions in securities. But he did not deny that he received a gift of 37 million rubles from TT Development. His son and friend, the director of the “state farm,” received the same amount.
      Pavel Grudinin, who experienced popular love in the metro, left the TASS press center in a tinted Range Rover SUV.

      https://polit.info/383313-arenda-ofshory-migranty
      -tri-istochnika-i-tri-sostavnye-chasti-biznesa-ko
      mmunista-grudinina?utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen
      yandex.com
  15. +1
    19 January 2018 11: 05
    SOF,
    Quote: SOF
    I don’t want to remember the story here, but here I want to...

    I’m not talking about history, but about the words of Putin, who interprets this history to please Western partners
    And what is mud-slinging? dissatisfaction with domestic politics?.dirty government? fattening oligarchs?
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    1. +6
      19 January 2018 17: 00
      when he arrived, everything in the country cost 6.73 - a tank, a human life, and a liter of gasoline.
      do you want to go back there? Suitcase Kyiv station!
  18. +5
    19 January 2018 14: 56
    Quote: Klaus
    You probably forgot that our army is the successor of the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army. The same one that overthrew Hitler in 45, and whose birthday the current authorities so bashfully conceal is February 23rd. Where does such disdain for the worker and collective farmer come from? They built a great country with hard work, but what have you done for the country?

    My disdain is not for the worker and collective farmer, but for the man who was not even the head of the district, but is already eager to become president!! The fact that he was a deputy, according to Wikipedia, does not say anything about him as a manager.
    Nobody appoints a yesterday’s university graduate as the head of a hospital; they appoint a doctor with work experience. And being president is a responsibility.
    1. 0
      22 January 2018 15: 47
      My disdain is not for the worker and collective farmer, but for the man who was not even the head of the district, but is already eager to become president!!
      Can you remind me who Putin was when he became the successor?
      in my opinion, he carried the case behind Sobchak.... so, let’s be honest and uneasy and without chatter!
  19. +4
    19 January 2018 16: 57
    Why would anyone bury this Grudinin? he will bury himself.
    foreign policy, state development program at the level of “we are for everything good and against everything bad”
    kindergarten. says Grudinin, not bad - apparently, the same political scientists who trained Zyuganov and they are great,
    but Grudinin himself is the best he can do - the governor of the region.
  20. +5
    19 January 2018 17: 55
    And I don’t give a damn that there are different Ukhovs, Chaldeans and Lena people. For the first time in Russia, a worthy people's candidate appeared.
  21. -1
    20 January 2018 04: 11
    Quote: Krabik
    Poroshenko promised...

    Trump promised....So regarding your first remark - election chatter.
    According to the second one, try to build a better system, otherwise you can groan every master!

    I know one thing for sure - you can’t trust anyone. However, Grudinin is going to the polls as a representative of leftist movements, and this is a guarantee.
    In our country the memory of Soviet power is still strong. And I believe for the majority of the population this is the best way for the country to develop.
    Putin did his job. First of all, we need to thank him for the fact that the people understood that the lawlessness and need during Yeltsin’s rule in the country will not last forever. And the oligarchs can be tried. Then Putin made his friends and relatives oligarchs. But there was already a precedent and the people recovered a little from the hopelessness of the 90s.
    A new stage in the country’s development is required and Putin is unable to do this... a new person is needed and I think this is Grudinin.
    By the way, those who are touched by the cutie Putin - think about his safety! Close oligarch friends may well hand it over to the same Americans, in exchange for the safety of their money.
    Let pensioner Putin live out his old age in peace... diving through ice holes and chasing a puck.
  22. +5
    20 January 2018 07: 21
    Quote: kunstkammer
    Let pensioner Putin live out his old age in peace... diving through ice holes and chasing a puck.


    A quiet old age does not shine for anyone. Not Putin, not me, not you, not your cutie Grudinin...
    I saw how the American media and the US Ambassador supported him. I think they are inflating this figure for a reason... At the right moment, it can burst with a great information roar... Somewhere near the Kremlin they will make a sacred sacrifice, like Nemtsov...
    Putin needs to protect this Klubnikin from his own and foreign leftists, so that nothing happens...
  23. +2
    20 January 2018 12: 25
    Yes, just go to Life News, there, through an article about how bad Grudinin is, Life News was cut off from budget money and now the Armenian vision is diligently showing the authorities its crotches
  24. 0
    20 January 2018 13: 47
    All candidates in the elections will receive exactly as much as they are appointed by the Central Election Commission.
    Churov once drew 146% of “United Russia” in Rostov - that means that’s how it is.
  25. -1
    20 January 2018 14: 08
    Quote: Captain45
    Now if Pasha gets killed...

    I believe that Vovochka’s best “friends” will most likely kill him at the request of Zhirinovsky’s best friend, bro Trump.
    At the last moment, closing her eyes forever, Vovochka will wearily think: “Why did I change the frail grandmother Hilary for the idiot Trump?... it was a mistake... E!”
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    1. +1
      20 January 2018 19: 40
      The more crap they throw at him in the media, the more chances he has to fail laughing
      They started to shit on him too zealously and eagerly... It got to the point that yesterday VK groups began to block him, and they confiscated propaganda literature from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation department in Novosibirsk. More trash, gentlemen, the rating is growing!
      1. 0
        23 January 2018 08: 50
        You'd think there would be little insinuation against the main candidate. No matter how much you say the word “Grudinin”, the taste of strawberries will disappear in your mouth. So all the hype around alternatives comes from impotence and for the redistribution of protest votes between them, nothing more. The probability of getting one more to your 3-5%.
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    1. +2
      20 January 2018 17: 23
      We are going to entrust the country to a person on whom the majority of the country's population places their hopes. Hopes to implement the agreed program and improve people's lives.
      I am more suspicious of the president who receives his salary in envelopes and does not even know how much he brings.
    2. +2
      20 January 2018 20: 49
      I really want to ask a question to the author of the picture: How can you be trusted when, despite your dementia, even from the 26th explanation you confuse 7,5 billion and 30 million? laughing
    3. +3
      20 January 2018 20: 54
      I have a simple question - how could Pavel Nikolaevich save 7,5 billion rubles?
    4. +1
      22 January 2018 10: 24
      Putin probably has more hidden away, and how he got rid of the thief Serdyuk..... corrupt official what to take from him
      1. +2
        23 January 2018 08: 43
        Do you think the word “for sure” will save you?
        "I didn’t read, but didn’t like it"(with) J.Psaki
    5. 0
      28 January 2018 23: 51
      Interview with Grudinin to foreign media
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    1. +2
      20 January 2018 20: 25
      Many now believe that the “corn farmer” Khrushchev looked funny on the UN podium when he tapped his shoe... perhaps. It’s just that America then became indecently…indecent. And not at all from the appearance of Nikita Sergeevich, but from the creation of the hands of our scientists, production workers and military personnel.
      When foreign tourists travel along the “Golden Ring” and see the wretched state of cities, hastily draped with banners, this, by the way, is also a representation of Russia on the international stage.
      So: the international arena is not polite handshakes and puffing out cheeks at all sorts of summits... it is a much broader concept.
    2. +1
      22 January 2018 10: 22
      and I will vote for sternum
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  30. +4
    22 January 2018 00: 25
    Hmmm, great disappointment.. Aftyr, what did you want to say? Vote for the representative of the indestructible bloc of communists and mini-oligarchs! So what? so I got it in one line, and you, you scribbled an article, you probably got money, but you can’t hide stupidity... Better tell us what kind of miracle this government body is - the State Council, this presidential candidate wants to introduce into the government structure. And he doesn’t care that neither the Constitution nor the laws say a word about this miracle. Does Grudinin live in Ukraine? There it is so accepted, like a new pan-gntman, like a new constitution, sometimes unspoken)). And the fact that a mini-oligarch, a renter of land for development and a shopping center, wanted to become a full-fledged oligarch is also news to me! For the sake of money, he will hug the devil and remember Marx and surrender the country to him again - just look at his southwestern neighbor. And what about the billionaire hetman, everything is progress wink Do we need a communist oligarch?? By the way, who lies every word, and lies so stupidly that it takes him to anger. Do you see there are no securities in the world with a face value of 200 thousand euros, and he was stuck with 40 million euros for treatment, the former collective farm was going to treat something?? Ugh, it's disgusting to listen to am
  31. +1
    22 January 2018 00: 33
    Sergei Kozhokar,
    What do you really mean, a mustachioed gentleman with an incomprehensible flag???
  32. +1
    22 January 2018 02: 01
    I vote for Grudinin, the best of the worst options....
  33. 0
    22 January 2018 08: 52
    I would vote for a real communist right away. Grudinin is anything but a communist.
    1. +1
      22 January 2018 19: 54
      At one time, Grudinin was in the CPSU. And when the state farm changed its form of ownership, he called it “State Farm named after Lenin”, and not “Grudinin and Sons”. Well, and most importantly, views may be the most idealistic, but the prose of life forces you to act based on reality, without forgetting the final goal. For me personally, the situation is clear - Putin is a beautiful cover in many ways created by the media, but you turn the cover over and see Chubais, on whom there is nowhere to put a brand, the crazy Kudrin and Gref and the rest of the liberal gop company. This is Putin’s “team”. "Achievements" of the team. As of 2017, GDP has not reached the level of 1990. Right now the liberals “in dollars” will refute me. If Putin wins, he will become a lame duck from day one, and the next six years will be torture for everyone, including Putin himself.
  34. 0
    22 January 2018 10: 21
    I will vote for him as the only independent candidate. Zhirik and Zyuga, obvious puppets, took Vova into the game so that against the backdrop of this fool Vova would look like a winner.
  35. 0
    22 January 2018 10: 29
    Anyone,
    Of course not, because nationalization is not universal, but only of illegally privatized enterprises in the 90s. At least that’s what I understood, and not right away, everything here is very complicated.
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  37. 0
    22 January 2018 10: 55
    720 comments... And this is probably not the limit. How much more dirt will be spilled here on the candidates and on each other! All! I personally am tired of pouring from empty to empty. All the best to everyone.
  38. +2
    22 January 2018 12: 16
    Unknown author of the publication, good afternoon! Well, why do you write lies, how many lies can you lie about P.N. Grudinin? I looked at the Central Election Commission data, “the income of P.N. Grudinin.” 157,4 million rubles over 6 years.”
    On a website called “Izvestia” (such a famous newspaper was “Izvestia”). found: “The income of Pavel Grudinin, who is running for president of Russia, over the past six years amounted to 157,4 billion rubles. This information is contained in a document published on the website of the Central Election Commission.” They just changed one word, “million” to “billion” rubles, but it unintentionally turned out to be a big lie. We draw a conclusion from this. All Central Media have been instructed to lie to the people about P.N. Grudinin.
    Anatoly Kon. Saint Petersburg.
  39. 0
    23 January 2018 09: 16
    The same thoughts are overwhelming. Another six years of Putin will finish off the country. It becomes clear to me that under him, with the last privatization, the country will no longer exist, and then us.
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  43. +1
    23 January 2018 21: 52
    Quote: Old
    Quote: raw174
    The very concept of PEOPLE implies an extension from the people!

    Incidentally, the Communist Party itself is more than 160 tons. members, including people like J. Alferov. Plus the union of patriotic forces. What is not the people?
    The program is PEOPLE! There is a team of professionals. The country must be saved from thieves.

    We've already done this, thank you, no need for these programs.
    1. +1
      31 January 2018 22: 44
      "Why not people?" - Hmm, lumpens are people too. In Ukraine, too, the “people” jumped up, and to what extent did they jump? They gave all control to Bandera’s men, and now, like mice under a broom, they have become quiet. I remember a few years ago, Putin loudly asked: “Are they transporting trains of guns and tanks!? Are they going to shoot at the people!?” As the future showed, the question was idiotic, they started shooting. Grudinin is from the same class as Poroshenko and will find people who know how to shoot guns. As much as the domestic policy is a failure, and even though the army has been strengthened, the external policy is very effective and resistant to external threats and challenges. I think that while there is no worthy candidate for the post of president, Putin should still be left behind. Perhaps part of the team will change.
      1. 0
        31 January 2018 22: 57
        In my opinion, the president should be Lieutenant General Alexei Gennadievich Dyumin, and the same Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin should remain as the adviser. This will be a killer tandem.