Tricky comments. The media are buried together Grudinina, no one is looking at the electorate

I haven’t written anything in this area for a long time, but here you don’t want to, but you’ll go over the topic.

Very funny, right, to observe how the leading media rushed to bury Pavel Grudinin. It resembles a hypermarket of some kind: the goods themselves were delivered, they themselves advertised, weighed, packed and paid.

Well, sentenced Grudinina. Everything, they say, merged oligarch. The public did not forgive him the secret and obvious accounts. And in general, it is not a matter for a rich person to go to the polls. As I understand it, only one who has a louse on a lasso in his pocket should go to the elections, so what?

And one more thing I begin to understand. How do we VTsIOM public opinion polls, we all know. But tsiferkami all shake. And nobody cares that VTsIOM has already surveyed 3 (three) thousand people by telephone. Everyone do not care.

The main thing is for Putin: 73,2% of Russians, for Grudinin and Zhirinovsky by 6,1% of the total.

The fact that all the media that have published these results, in the comments (who is allowed) dozens screaming "And we are for Grudinina," is a trifle.

The impression is beginning to take shape that Putin is below 72% and will not fall. More precisely, do not lower. Well, no matter how it was on past 71,73%, it’s impossible on these lower ones.

Discharged down? Well, let's see.

But in general, all this fuss in the state and local state media says only one thing - Zyuganov did a really good move. Otherwise, why such a fuss rose?

So we were told why Navalny and Putin’s goddaughter (Sobchak) were not a cake, but now everyone rushed to the collective farm chairman as if on command. Has the team really passed?

Apparently, yes. But - as always, in a hurry and unprofessional. Found something to blame - the money was abroad. And who, say so, from the powerful of this world is not?

I'm not talking about the latter-day citizens of Malta or Switzerland. I'm just talking about those who keep money where he likes. And about those who have allegedly no accounts.

Yes, of course, we have people who should not have accounts abroad, because they can be arrested, and money can be taken away. So what? Who does it stop? Only, probably, an orphan and stop. And a person who has brothers, sisters, reasonable children, aunts, uncles and other relatives, including brilliant women-businesswoman, has no problems.

Well, who really cares how to act in this case, you can read about Roldugin and Egorov at your leisure as well.

And by the way, I’m talking here without any hitting or envy. I would not be able to work at such a level as an offshore wallet.

So with regard to Pavel Grudinina - really past the box office. It's wonderful that he has money. Although ... 7,5 billion rubles ... I beg you wholesale and retail. Well, is this money?

We have customs in garages, I'm sorry, they store more.

So the non-communist collective farmer Grudinin has nothing to worry about. What the VTsIOM draws there is one thing that in fact is another.

But on the Internet, people say they will vote for him. Yes, to be honest, I will vote. Why not? True, about why yes, we'll talk another time.

The main thing so far is that it is good that the central media began to bury Pavel Nikolaevich like that. Will benefit. As in the movie "Office Romance", remember? “Callers, speak? Then you should definitely take it! ”

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[populist]

So we were told why Navalny and Putin’s goddaughter (Sobchak) were not a cake, but now everyone rushed to the collective farm chairman as if on command. Has the team really passed?
Apparently, yes.

Of course, the team passed. I listen to VestiFM - on the first day, two vicious performances in a few hours. I go to the site alone ...- there every day on a vile, slanderous article. (I don’t go to this site anymore). The very imperious elite was frightened of the popular candidate, and even against the background of their failures.

[nadezhiva]

https://www.facebook.com/OpenEconomyMedia/videos/
1984213535195011 /
You will not believe! There are resources where Mr. Grudin is actively praised. And what resources)))

OpenEconomy. Explain the complex
January 11 at 3:32 a.m. ·
Tax collection in Russia is growing much faster than the economy, recently head of the Federal Tax Service Mikhail Mishustin boasted. There’s nothing to brag about: if the economy is falling, and more and more taxes are being squeezed out of it, this is very bad, explains Pavel Grudinin, the presidential candidate from the Communist Party

Read about this source online: Open economy. Whose, let's say, is a shout.

[populist]

Anyone who writes about money. Do you remember such a fighter for national happiness as Comrade Fidel Castro. Remember his brother Raul Castro, the son of General Ulyanov \ Lenin. All are far from poor people. There was Salvador Allende.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: populist

Anyone who writes about money. Do you remember such a fighter for national happiness as Comrade Fidel Castro. Remember his brother Raul Castro, the son of General Ulyanov \ Lenin. All are far from poor people. There was Salvador Allende.

You are absolutely right Castro-aristocrat, Ulyanov-nobleman ....
There is also a conference of Grudinin himself, but what Boldyrev said


The author is very well laid out! Author +++++

[Anyone]

Castro is an aristocrat? )) Yes, his parents were from peasants who came to Cuba in search of a better life.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Anyone

his parents were from peasants,

His father, Spanish immigrant Angel Castro, was a large landowner, mother - a cook from his father's estate.

[Anyone]

His father and mother did not even know how to write. Father became a planter and landowner already in Cuba. And he came there poor. What kind of "aristocrats" are there ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Anyone

His father and mother did not even know how to write. Father became a planter and landowner already in Cuba. And he came there poor. What kind of "aristocrats" are there ...

I read a book about him about 30 years ago, "a planter-new aristocracy" was deposited in my head. I could be wrong, but I’ll cover the topic for myself again. Thank.

[Anyone]

No, well, if the term "aristocracy" is interpreted broader than "hereditary aristocracy", then yes, Castro's father was, so to speak, from the "new Cubans."

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Anyone

No, well, if the term "aristocracy" is interpreted broader than "hereditary aristocracy", then yes, Castro's father was, so to speak, from the "new Cubans."

I meant that his father was a very wealthy man.

[Anyone]

By the way, an interesting question ... It is believed that Castro passed his fortune to the Cuban people. Nationalized, in short. And what does Grudinin say about his condition if he suddenly comes to power? Take an example from Fidel? Or like trump? )))

[Zefr]

Quote: Anyone

His father and mother did not even know how to write. Father became a planter and landowner already in Cuba. And he came there poor. What kind of "aristocrats" are there ...

Eee ... Are you serious? Father became a planter, then a son from a poor family?
Yes, we have ALL oligarchs, officials, top managers and their children, according to your logic - beggars! And Bill Gates is a beggar, and Zuckerberg, only Rockefeller well done. And that bastard, all the time of the revolution suits, however, not where he lives, but where it is not a pity.
And who to choose now? Putin alone remained with his bezshtannoy team.

[Anyone]

Do you understand the difference between the nouveau riche and the aristocrats? You can be a poor aristocrat, actually. But poor nouveau riche will not work))
And regarding Fidel’s father, I wrote above. He became a landowner and a planter with his labor. I could not read and write, but gave the children a good education.

[Zefr]

So maybe Putin is an aristocrat? (For some reason, you have never been able to write the "aristocrat" correctly). Maybe Obama is an aristocrat? Here is Bush, the youngest one hundred percent aristocrat, you can’t argue.
"He became a planter with his labor." It's five. Which of the rich became nouveau riche in his work? Have you read Marx for a long time?

[Anyone]

1. Maybe you have other information about parents dragging Castro, but I focus on what Fidel said. Namely:

I was born into a landowner family. What does it mean? My father was a Spanish peasant from a very poor family. He came to Cuba as a Spanish emigrant at the beginning of the century and began to work in very difficult conditions. Being an entrepreneurial person, he soon attracted attention and took up certain leadership positions at construction sites, which were conducted at the beginning of the century.

He managed to accumulate some capitalist, which he invested in the purchase of land. In other words, as a business man, he achieved success and turned into the owner of the land ... Such things were not so difficult in the early years of the republic. Then he rented additional land. And when I was born, I was really born into a family that can be called land ownership.

2. Already said, you confuse aristocracy and nouveau riche. Look for the meaning of words in an explanatory word if you are not sure.
3. I apologize for typos - a small virtual keyboard.

[Plate]

By the way, yes. I remember in a show they showed how he nationalized the land of his own parents.

[Lexus]

On TV, an organized, frank, open "persecution" of Grudinin began. In one voice, as in the training manual. Looking disgusting. Mindful of other similar events, I remembered:

"I have heard so much slander against you that I have no doubt: you are a wonderful person!" (c) O. Wilde

[97110]

Quote: lexus

Mindful of other similar events, I remembered:
"I have heard so much slander against you that I have no doubt: you are a wonderful person!" (c) O. Wilde

It never occurred to you that they (the writing fraternity) had read it? I can not believe it - they would figure out the numbers. And if? But what if? Here was Yeltsin. Yes, such people in the USSR can’t rearrange cancer to Moscow. And they said aloud: "Boris, you are wrong!" And pissed off Boris ...

[stylet]

To tell the truth is not bullying.

[velpro]

but who needs it, ordinary oligarch

[Lev Bronsch]

Here you are wrong! This scum is a strawberry mini-oligarch, and really wants to become real! Well, just like a Padro chocolate at the brothers. And for my dream I’m ready to surrender everyone and the country in addition. Well, actually, as with the brothers, it happened. Actually the perfect State Department candidate. He even has money even for the Maidan with cries of "profiteering illegally, leave Putin". Here is such a squiggle ... We will choose this nits and we will pay and repent, repent and pay ... will we provide you with a list? The French already remembered 1904, RI !! Is it direct infectious or something Poroshenko ?? Then the 90s will seem like a fairy tale to us, and the present time is a biblical paradise. Here are some such bastards climb into power (((

[stopkran]

Grudinin is the most natural "wolf in sheep's clothing." )))

Sometimes it’s even useful to read the Bible: “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inside they are ravening wolves” (Matthew 7:15).

[Captain45]

Quote: lexus

On TV, an organized, frank, open "persecution" of Grudinin began.

Yes, bullying! Yes, that is, he Grudinin GUANO! And it is true!!! No need to lie !!! Where's the 7,5 lard of affairs, the field mouse?

[the most important]

Quote: Captain45

Quote: lexus
On TV, an organized, frank, open "persecution" of Grudinin began.
Yes, bullying! Yes, that is, he Grudinin GUANO! And it is true!!! No need to lie !!! Where's the 7,5 lard of affairs, the field mouse?

You would, sir, with such youthful enthusiasm from Dimon learn about his 70 billion and from a well-known musician in narrow circles, where did he get 2 billion dollars!

[Lev Bronsch]

Here's the nickname you have "the most important" - and look at you, so stupid. Unlike some fairy tales about 140 billion Putin and 70 Medvedev - this is him, according to you, Dimon, 7,5 billion strawberry thieves have been proven, and how he didn’t bust, but admitted. Speaks for treatment . By the way, how old are you, apparently, are you from the sect of an olesha anal? So the march on YouTube, your little analchik just filmed why you can’t go to school on March 18! In order not to accidentally help Putin

[Dalailama]

Stalin worked for a salary.

[Lev Bronsch]

One thing - how many foolish ones (((they put pluses on you! It’s obvious that they are catching Mr. Klubnichkin on a direct lie - he forgot the hard worker about $ 40 million, he probably earned it, he’s thinking about the country))). And when they press against the wall, start barking and shouting - you can see right away, president, what is there ... Yes, against his background a chocolate prezik from the non-brothers is an example of honesty and integrity! Ugh, on you!

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Stroporez

The author is very well laid out! Author +++++

That's right, only in vain, dear Roman, repeats this fake about Grudinin’s 7.5 billion - everything has already been dismantled and refuted that his account is overvalued 200 times

[stopkran]

Miroed Grudinin became a political corpse immediately upon receipt of an identity card at the CEC., Because it was a pathological nonsense.

But you don’t need to believe anyone, you need to check the information.
Music did not play for long, Pasha did not dance for long! Grudinin is precisely the billionaire and finally lies. Http://e-news.su/mnenie-i-analitika/209398-nedolg
o-muzyka-igrala-nedolgo-pasha-tanceval-grudinin-i
menno-billionaire-i-okonchatelno-zavralsya.html

[nadezhiva]

Still worse:

The price is not for the "package". Price per share, unfortunately.

[sapporo1959]

Already a share is? I see that the Kremlin really got a little excited, since in such a big country they finally found that very plunderer of national wealth.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Yeah, given that this is not a stock and the real value of $ 1000 per unit of delirium looks generally enchanting. But in our country there are a lot of fools, they believe.

[nadezhiva]

About the birds:

Berkshire Hathaway Inc. $ 315 per share.
Seaboard Corporation $ 4 per share
NVR Incorporated $ 3 / share

This is the theme of enchanting delirium. Prices are different. Both on stocks and on paper. I would really like this pseudo-communist to be a worthy president someday. But from something I don’t believe in it. From the word at all. And the songs about "divide and distribute to everyone ... primarily the poor" .... remove the noodles, gentlemen.

[sapporo1959]

Well, here in captivity you will liven up when such warriors go into battle! Maybe you should send the laces for the kosochka just in case, so that it would not fly off during an attack ..?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Are you seriously interested in the issue? Or have you decided to take a word to what they say to you? Read carefully what is written there. Although to whom I say this to a person who has neither mind nor imagination.

[NordUral]

Not tired of typing stuff in Latin? Or have you already gotten ready, you are sorry for us?

[CAM]

I do not believe the sternum, just because in his company, rat Boldyrev

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: CAM

I do not believe the sternum, just because in his company, rat Boldyrev

the number of innocent lambs in Putin’s team is not countable

[the most important]

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

the number of innocent lambs in Putin’s team is not countable

DO NOT touch the saints !!! Hands off Taburetkin, Red and other highly worthy !!!

[Victor Demchenko]

why do you offend good people ?! Well, at least Shuvalov, Oreshkin, Naebullina, and the same Siluanov .... such good people, so care about welfare, ... really!

[NordUral]

Justify why the rat.

[stylet]

Boldyrev together with Yeltsin destroyed Russia in the 90s. Now they want a second series - led by Grudinin.

[Romulus]

Quote: stylet

Boldyrev together with Yeltsin destroyed Russia in the 90s.

Wider topic do not reveal how Boldyrev and Yeltsin destroyed Russia in 90?
Or a night trip for the goodies?

[Captain45]

Quote: Romulus

Wider topic do not reveal how Boldyrev and Yeltsin destroyed Russia in 90?

I can’t open it, but I can sew the following: take a closer look in the comments, last night I gave a link about Boldyrev. Do not be lazy.

[Lev Bronsch]

Well, apparently given your young age, I’m prompting you - Result: GDP under $ 200 billion is for 150 million people, a complete loss of technological sectors that determine technological breakthroughs, total impoverishment of the population - 80% of the poor according to the UN methodology and the UN Committee’s survey. Let me remind you. now in Ukraine 60% of the poor are using the same methodology. Remind the number of "zarobitchan"? Well, somehow, this way and that destroyed ... Everything, I emphasize everything, demographic projections by 2020 of the population of the Russian Federation assumed about 90 million people. Does this disclosure suit you? Or do you know that Berezovsky, Khodarkovsky, Abramovich and other seven-bankers with a service staff lived well and even perfectly, and for other knowledge of sergo matter in the head is not enough?

[Victor Demchenko]

lying though! Already Boldyrev somehow to the Yeltsin family well, in no way succeed in leaning against!

[Sanichsan]

Yeah. well laid out. between Grudinin and Ulyanov the same chasm as between Navalny and Stalin.
and like both criminals. Before the revolution, Stalin traded in banditry, and Navalny traded in fraud. only Stalin robbed to finance the party, and Navalny for himself personally.
and for whom did Grudinin earn his millions on, of course, the most honest way depressed in 90 collective farm lands?
and frankly, his entire unknown biography somehow brings back memories of the hero of not our country Semen Semenchenko with whom everything at first was also very beautiful.

[lukewarm]

Quote: populist

about the son of General Ulyanov \ Lenin.

Right? Provincial inspector of public schools.

[Captain45]

Quote: unwillingly

Quote: populist
about the son of General Ulyanov \ Lenin.

what exactly? Provincial inspector of public schools.

If my memory serves me right, then according to the Table of Ranks Ilya Ulyanov had the rank of real state adviser, which in the army is equal to the rank of major general, thus dad V.I. Ulyanov (Lenin) was a civilian general.

[Abracadabrus]

Quote: populist

Anyone who writes about money

I don’t know who these “all” who “write about money” are, but in this case, the author of this article, Mr. Skomorokhov, writes about money. Rather, he writes not about money, but about the fact that all claims against Grudinin allegedly boil down to the fact that he has a lot of money. And this is an obvious, if not a lie, then an intentional distortion of the facts and an attempt to distract the reader's attention from far more substantial claims to the "comrade" Grudinin. As for the money, the claim is not to money, but to a very muddy source of their origin. And if Mr. Skomorokhov had the urge to do an “objective” review of the press, then it was necessary to speak not about money, but
- about how the "comrade" Grudinin took over the land plots of collective farmers (courts still go on);
- about how collective farm land was sold at a surprisingly low price;
- about how agricultural land is leased for warehouses and shopping centers;
- about how Moscow retail chains refused to take the products of Lenin State Farm CJSC, suspecting it of Turkish origin, and Grudinin could not document the opposite;
- about how locals in this amazing "state farm" are sitting without work, while the police catch illegal immigrants working on the fields of the ZAO.
And much more. I don’t cite proofs for relevant publications, because it’s not me, but Skomorokhov started a “review” of the press, and accordingly he should have done it. But he, pretending to be objective, somehow missed these “little things”. And finally, literally touches the argument:

But on the Internet, people say they will vote for him.

Well, on the Internet, the “daughter of officers” says a lot. And I, for example, and other commentators under this article, also on the Internet, say that we don’t need such candidates with a soul.
Will the author vote for Grudinin? - it’s his right, but to write an article on the topic “I vote for Grudinin” somehow smells very badly of engagement.

[albert]

Grudinin promises a progressive system of taxation. Putin is not gu-gu about that.

Quote: Krabik

Each organism must be able to protect itself - this is not just normal, it should be so in a healthy system.

To call our state system healthy is a bust.

[Krabik]

Poroshenko promised to end the war in the Donbass.

Trump promised to be friends with Russia and return industry from China to the United States.

So what about your first cue - election chatter.
According to the second one, try to build a better system, otherwise you can groan every master!

[Foxmara]

Quote: albert

Grudinin promises a progressive system of taxation. Putin is not gu-gu about that.

To promise does not mean to marry. One day he wrote that he had no investments and reported on them. What is there to believe?
Well, in spite of the article - there is a certain amount of "drowning" for Grudinin, which no one knew yesterday, just rolls over .. on the Internet. We all know how to organize this.
Yes, there is both an attempt to “drown” the candidate and an attempt to drag him into a chair that is not his size. Sudden support for the Yankees only introduces more questions ..

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Foxmara

there is an attempt to "drown" the candidate

Come on ... who drowns him?
It will be necessary - drown, no problems.

Quote: Foxmara

One day he wrote that he had no investments and reported on them

The boy decided to conceal the money from the state ... na-i-iivny ...

[Foxmara]

Quote: Golovan Jack

The boy decided to conceal the money from the state ... na-i-iivny ...

It seems to me that the man himself did not plan and did not expect, they just made him an offer, which he could not refuse (possibly even through blackmail). Therefore, everything is on the run, without a plan.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Foxmara

he was made an offer that he could not refuse

Are you on a proposal to move forward, or on EVRAZ bonds?

[NordUral]

Obviously your ass is quite in moderation under this high chair?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Krabik

So Skomorokhov also harbored an insult for my comment n

Well, the thing is ... Everyone can offend an artist ...

[Old]

Your post also smacks of. And this is normal. Let people read and draw conclusions. However, you cite unconfirmed facts and thereby try to cast a shadow on the candidate. The approach is the same as in the story with 7 lard.
When I first heard about them, I found the source, recounted and realized that it was a lie.
And to most of your points, Grudinin answered yesterday.
Grudinin is a good person, in my opinion. And things say the right thing. And it will be much more difficult for him to break his promises if elected.

[Alber]

Quote: Old

Grudinin is a good person, in my opinion. And things say the right thing. And it will be much more difficult for him to break his promises if elected.

Trotsky was once a good man too. spoke correctly ...
and then, with his Zionofascist brotherhood, he poured blood on Russia

[your1970]

Quote: Old

And things say the right thing. And it will be much more difficult for him to break his promises if elected.

- what’s more difficult? "he’ll fall on the rails !!!" - if he violates it? Who will stop him (the newly elected president!) from changing anything: the Constitution, laws .. but just the chairman of the Central Executive Committee ("they are all too good !!" according to you) ..
It’s business to stay for a second term (subject to election for the first!) ...

[Lev Bronsch]

God, enlighten people !! Yes, a strawberry thief is a primitive mini-oligarchic who really wants to become real !! Everything, only loot interests him !! Have you even looked at the southwestern brothers, doesn’t remind anyone of anything ?? You don’t see that this suburban Muscovite is simply a screen, which promised a lot of dough so that he would bring to power a certain state council. But what is it, but who will enter it, for some reason, the strawberry is silent. You want the 90s to be remembered as a good fairy tale, I personally want a different one, and to my children !!

[Alexander Tsvetkov]

I completely agree, everything is on the case. FOR. I do not understand this fact, having embarked on the path of the presidential race, how can I relax in the West

[Wayfarer]

Quote: Abracadabrus

Well, on the Internet, the “daughter of officers” says a lot

Who do you mean this, is it not by chance?
The country is being robbed, oligarchs are being pulled offshore, the economy is in a systemic crisis, the people are impoverished and are dying.
It is necessary to save the country and the people, and the only way out is to elect Grudinin as president of the Russian Federation.
Putin has not fulfilled any promise, there is no faith in him, it will only get worse, he has driven the country into a dead end.
All your slander against Grudinin is ridiculous and it makes no sense to read it. It is enough to see how Grudinin lives and how simple workers of the state farm live. Grudinin is good for the people and will save Russia by becoming president of the Russian Federation.

[Alber]

Quote: Traveler

It is necessary to save the country and the people, and the only way out is to elect Grudinin as president of the Russian Federation.
Putin has not fulfilled any promise, there is no faith in him, it will only get worse, he has driven the country into a dead end.

And what did your sternum fulfill from the promised?

[sapporo1959]

Well, he hasn’t steered yet, and you already demand results. You still have to be more modest ..

[Alber]

Quote: sapporo1959

Well, he hasn’t steered yet, and you already demand results. You still have to be more modest ..

when your breast begins to steer, you can stay without the last pants ...

[sapporo1959]

Well, it’s easier for you to wear pants, but what do we do without pants? But we really want the same thing as you are in fashion, and even in the arrow ...

[Victor Demchenko]

built kindergartens, by the way, the best school in Europe. and what did the great Pu do?
doubled the welfare of the Russians, as promised? I didn’t feel something, but contrary to his promises, gasoline doubled and tariffs didn’t grow at all — that’s it!

[Lev Bronsch]

Victor, are you a stupid person? who built the best school in Europe ?? Strawberry thief on his capital ??? This school was built at the expense of the budget of Moscow and federal subventions. Is the internet new to you, or the daughter of an officer?

[Lev Bronsch]

That’s why, therefore, a thief who stole land in the form of shares in people, holds a fortune in offshore companies and makes family capital on a primitive sale of other people's property (the courts still come in handy), how he will become president, how he will fight offshore companies and oligarchs, but about Russia think hourly !! How old are you? Do you believe in fairy tales? So go to hohland - there is such a storyteller soon for 4 years as president. Says the people live right elegantly, in Paris and veins rides from Nice does not crawl out. Well, the president says it there, but the residents of Square, who work for me, say something completely different. No, well, the president easily spends $ 500 for 000 days of rest, they have documents, so to speak, but why do you need this? Have you decided to grab poverty yourself, or are you a Cossack mishandled?

[avia1991]

Quote: Abracadabrus

we don’t need such candidates for nothing.

The flag is in your hands. Kiss further ass stealing power. But do not speak for the majority: your opinion is only yours. Someone will support you, some - no, but so far among the participants of various votes, on DIFFERENT (mind you!) Sites, it’s Grudinin who leads, and “Darkest”, although he comes second, but with a margin that does not allow him to do anything to count. So that the author is right - they will "draw" and very active!
As for the "other, more important facts about which you state:

Quote: Abracadabrus

it was necessary to speak not about money, but
- about how the "comrade" Grudinin took over the land plots of collective farmers (courts still go on);
- about how collective farm land was sold at a surprisingly low price;
- about how agricultural land is leased for warehouses and shopping centers;

I allow myself to ask: are not these materials a malicious distortion of Reality with the help of mass media engaged by the authorities? Do you really consider it a coincidence that “all of a sudden” “began to see” right now, but while Grudinin did not make his political claims - did everyone bashfully “keep silent”? ..
A lot can be said in response, but it is unlikely to “come”: you need to THINK with your head, and not just eat it. And to repeat, like an ass, after the authorities, their "dirty insinuations" - for this great mind is not necessary. In this regard, the role

Quote: Abracadabrus

"daughters of officers"

It suits you much more. Good luck in chanting oligarchic power!

[Lev Bronsch]

Correctly applied !! It’s one thing to criticize and propose, and it’s quite another to lick an ass to an unfinished thief near Moscow !!! Already found someone, shame !!

[Svist]

Quote: Lev Bronsch

and a completely different unfinished thief ass near Moscow lick !!!

Need to finish lick?
And by the way, I received a warning for a less offensive expression, which has been hanging for the second year. Even on Victory Day there was no amnesty ...

[Stas157]

Quote: nadezhiva

Read about this source online: Open economy. Whose, let's say, is a shout.

Why are you listening to enemy horns, and even forcing us to? You act like a provocateur!
You are obviously a Confused. Therefore, let me throw you Western articles, where they speak well of your idol! Will this be enough for you to be disappointed in your leader?

[Romulus]

Quote: Stas157

Why are you listening to enemy horns, and even forcing us to? You act like a provocateur!

The vest didn’t break the comrade patriot?

[Stas157]

Quote: Romulus

The vest didn’t break the comrade patriot?

If the word "provocateur" leads you to, for you, bad associations with revolutionary sailors, then replace it with the word "manipulator", the meaning will not change.

[SEER]

Quote: Stas157

... You obviously are a Confused ...

hang bad labels, sternum.
I am. for example, I directly communicated with sternum and with his employees (including with Gaster, of whom there are many) - my voice will not be for him.

[Romulus]

Quote: nadezhiva

if the economy is falling and more taxes are being squeezed out of it, this is very bad,

A cow needs to be milked more often and less often fed - super profitability however)

[tochila]

And you also need to lease a colonel, a shepherd to outsource, reduce milkmaids (replace by robots) and get a profitable company (Sberbank, for example)

[Nagaibak]

[quote = nadezhiva "Read on the net about this source: OpenEconomy. Whose, let's say, is a shout"
Yes, he is an agent of the CIA and spies.))) What is there to read.

[raw174]

Quote: populist

The very imperious elite was frightened of the popular candidate, and even against the background of their failures.

And who recorded it in the "folk"? What does this even mean: PEOPLE? People’s - if it is nominated by the meeting, and so it’s Zyuganovsky and comes from the party ...
I have nothing against Grudinin, but Putin is just as popular, he has also left the Russian people ...

[zoolu350]

Well, if for you the oligarchy of the Russian Federation is the people, then ......

[raw174]

Quote: zoolu350

Well, if for you the oligarchy of the Russian Federation is the people, then ......

With what amount on the account do you propose people to write down? ..
The very concept of PEOPLE implies an extension from the people! Let’s gather people in Kryzhopol in the square, eat, nominate Semenych, he will be popular, from the Kryzhopol people! And Grudinin from the Communist Party and Zyuganov ...

[zoolu350]

Less than 300000 rubles a month is the people, and more is unlikely. Grudinin not only from the Communist Party, but also from a wide range of other patriotic forces.

[raw174]

Quote: zoolu350

Less than 300000 rubles a month is the people, and more is unlikely.

Do you think Grudinin has less income? .. I doubt it ...

Quote: zoolu350

Grudinin not only from the Communist Party, but also from a wide range of other patriotic forces.

Duck all come from some kind of forces ... The same Putin from many many forces ...

[V]

Grudinin himself said, on Solovyov’s program, that his income was 20 + million rubles a year.

[Captain45]

Quote: zoolu350

Less than 300000 rubles a month is a people,

According to your assessment, Grudinin is not a people at all.

[Old]

Quote: raw174

The very concept of PEOPLE implies an extension from the people!

Incidentally, the Communist Party itself is more than 160 tons. members, including people like J. Alferov. Plus the union of patriotic forces. What is not the people?
The program is PEOPLE! There is a team of professionals. The country must be saved from thieves.

[ocean969]

I read the comments and slowly go nuts: The Russian brothers didn’t eat yourself, what Grudilin, look around, they drag the country into a real war, and you are talking about some Grudilin.

[a.sirin]

Nobody drags, many really want to fight themselves. From hopelessness, from the lack of clearance in life, from the inability to do something that you really want - everyone has their own.
So many began to think that war would help

[Andrew67]

I support. Ludiiiii, come to your senses. What is now, excuse me, collective farm

[raw174]

Quote: Old

Incidentally, the Communist Party itself is more than 160 tons. members, including people like J. Alferov. Plus the union of patriotic forces. What is not the people?

In this scenario, all candidates are popular. For Sopchak and others like her, too, people put signatures ...

Quote: Old

The country must be saved from thieves.

I agree that you need to save from thieves, like 1000 and 100 and 10 years ago.

[avia1991]

Quote: raw174

The very concept of PEOPLE implies an extension from the people!

Here from this place, can I give more details?
Who put forward Putin in 2000? Do not remember?
After all, the main thing is to get into THERE, and it is impossible for an ordinary person "out of the people" to do this ... in the conditions of the modern electoral system and its administrative resource that insures it. So who put forward Putin? WHO do you call "people"?
An honest person (and there are such people) can take such a place only if the previous System of Power is broken - otherwise, on the ground, he will receive the whole gamut, starting from silent sabotage by the power structures - and ending with open disobedience! Look at the USA? Even “almost mine”, from the rich, FAVORITES Trump cannot do anything with their System!
So you would be better off not talking about “popular” Putin .. in today's situation, unfortunately, nothing will change - at least for the better, judging by the “ideas” that were voiced at the “Gaidar Gangway”

[yehat]

and what's the point of putting a dark horse out of the people?
a person must have some power and some interests, if not lobby, then at least represent. And when there is massive support, there are opportunities to go through all the requirements of the electoral commission, although the example of the anti-aircraft party shows how easy it is to ban those who are objectionable.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: raw174

And who recorded it in the "folk"? What does this even mean: PEOPLE? People’s - if it is nominated by the meeting, and so it’s Zyuganovsky and comes from the party ...

Well, Grudinin paid Zyuganov his nomination. On the other hand, when did the Bolsheviks not take money from the bourgeoisie? Before the revolution, the Bolshevik Party lived on the contributions of the workers and the donations of the capitalists.

[dSK]

Aristarkh Ludwigovich!

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

paid Grudinin Zyuganov

For 6 generations, “ideological” communists have dried up (Lenin-Stalin-Khrushchev-Brezhnev-Andropov-Gorbachev.) Yeltsin threw a party card at the congress. Grudinin - how chameleon, changes color, after six years the situation will change, what color it will be unknown.

[marline]

Quote from dsk

Grudinin - how chameleon, changes color, after six years the situation will change, what color it will be unknown.

I remember a song:

Komsomol rebuilt
They got into show business,
And one of them has its own organ
He calls the company LIS'S.
Became a capitalist
Communist from Goskino:
Instead of films about security officers
Advertises on .. r .. but.

Now, in our country, the capitalists are being rebuilt into communists. Survived ...

[your1970]

Quote: merlin

Quote from dsk

Grudinin - how chameleon, changes color, after six years the situation will change, what color it will be unknown.

I remember a song:

Komsomol rebuilt
They got into show business,
And one of them has its own organ
He calls the company LIS'S.
Became a capitalist
Communist from Goskino:
Instead of films about security officers
Advertises on .. r .. but.

Now, in our country, the capitalists are being rebuilt into communists. Survived...

-And tired !! The people at the VO have apparently already forgotten so much who the Communists are, that such a union of a billionaire + CPRF seems normal to them ...
Absolutely any other the party is social, liberal, Christian democrats, patriots of Russia, the party of pensioners, beer lovers, greens, Makhnovists - any other party - I agree, he would be at the place with his program, and maybe I would even vote for him ...
But the communist !!! Well, the same hangover nonsense - the oligarch who came to power from the Communists !!!
Here it is necessary either to rename them or to refuse it from billions ...
To everyone who shouts - "But what should he be poor ?? There they say Lenin is a nobleman !!" I recall that by the time of VOSR, among its leaders, personally wealthy people DID NOT HAVE!!!

And about the nationalization-classics:
"Marx and Engels in the Manifesto Communist political party", -" the proletariat uses its political dominion in order to wresting all capital from the bourgeoisie step by step, centralizing all the instruments of production in the hands of the state, that is, the proletariat, organized as the ruling class, and it is possible to more rapidly increase the sum of productive forces ""

[marline]

Quote: your1970

But the communist !!! Well, the same hangover nonsense - the oligarch who came to power from the Communists !!!

I read my thoughts directly.
Just recently reviewed the film "Communist" 1957. - these were people and communists. And there were such! After Ostrovsky, Pavku Korchagin actually wrote with himself.
Honestly, there would now be at least one candidate in the list of candidates, but one who was overwhelming, but a real communist - without hesitation would vote for him .... But to express support for this G ... - do not respect yourself.

[Captain45]

Quote: merlin

Only recently reviewed the film "Communist" 1957g. - these were people and communists.

Quote: merlin

there would now be at least one candidate on the list of candidates, though he was overwhelming, but a real communist - without hesitation would vote for him .... But to express support for this G ... - do not respect yourself.

I fully support your opinion, I myself have never been a communist and so much more sympathetic to my fellow traveler, but my opinion about the communists is based on two images: one from the movie "Communist", I know the second one in my life, and when it comes to communists, I involuntarily compare the candidacy with these images, well, the current ones don’t pull, at least do something, at least an owl on a globe or a party card flat in the anus

[V. Salama]

his 1970: "... the people in VO ... forgot and ... the billionaire + CPRF alliance seems normal ...

This is precisely what is normal, because in VO they must understand that there is a specific logic of struggle. In difficult times for the country, different forces unite. So WOSR was carried out and other great revolutions. Then, of course, there was an internal disassembly - the foolish call it "the revolution devours its children." But so far we have elections on the nose, and not revolution. Everything is democratic and evolutionary, we hope it will continue to be so. Moreover, the driving force of the revolution is now gone. And we must remember that this is not the time of the USSR, when there was a single ideology and we voted for a person, forgot how to think correctly. Now we need to vote for the Program (project) that satisfies us and for the person who is ready to implement this project. Even Stalin said: I have no other ministers ... And with the help of those who were successfully solving problems.

[avva2012]

"Marx and Engels in the" Manifesto "
No time left. Absolutely. The Communist Party, it’s not the Communists, Grudinin, especially, but if you don’t remove, now, the financial / liberal elite from power, this will be the end. For 26 years, the country has not just joined the WTO, it has integrated into the system. We are dependent on Western elites, and they are ours. And global trends are such that there is an offensive of "industrial capital" on the "financial". Trump's victory, Brexit. The problem is that our "financiers" are not just tied to theirs, but are subordinate. The export of capital abroad, investment in securities, the destruction of industry, on the one hand, help them in the fight against "industrialists", and on the other hand, the destruction of domestic competitors.
What will the country be left with after the liberals finish off their competitors? Therefore, now, as always, you have to choose from two evils. “Industrialists” will come and it will be beneficial for them to send the money to production, there will be development, there will be jobs, education and medicine will be tightened. Finally, without the proletariat, what kind of proletarian revolution? All will be.

[Old]

I support. Personality is not that important. Important concept and team. And the current team, as for the economy in full g ...

[avva2012]

This is not economics, this is not politics, it is a matter of survival.

[avia1991]

Quote: your1970

But communist !!! Well, the same hangover nonsense - the oligarch who came to power from the Communists !!

It comes not only from the Communists, if you have not noticed. And stop savoring this stuffing of fake media - the "oligarch"! Do you even know how to count? A read? Read the report on Grudinin's accounts abroad. And most importantly - WHEN they were open when they were closed .. You think he’d probably go .. that one who suddenly felt it, knowing the attitude in the West towards the money of Russians on their accounts, open a “billionth deposit” in a Western bank in early 2017- th year!
By the way, there were 37 million rubles there. It was just that the media needed a “fried” digital - so they hastened to turn everything upside down. If that kind of money is an "oligarch" .. well, it remains only to shrug: "the world has gone mad"

[your1970]

Quote: avia1991

if you haven’t noticed. And stop savoring this stuffing of fake media - the "oligarch"! Do you even know how to count? A read?

-and you did not notice that he has a 44% stake in the company. And to calculate - that 44% of the 7 billion worth of a closed joint-stock company is 3 billion worth of property (and it’s 52 million bucks, it’s a small one, but an oligarch). And he can realize this property at any time even without the consent of the other shareholders — the law on CJSC allows

[avia1991]

Quote: your1970

and you did not notice that he has a 44% stake in the company.

Do you remember what happened in the 90s in "business"? It would hardly have been possible to save the state farm, as I understand it, owned by a sickly multitude of hard workers: this could only be done by a person who is capable of organizing and snapping ... and correctly managing profits! And by the way, 44% is not a controlling stake, right?

[Gardamir]

"Ideal" Communists

and what did you exclude Putin from this list?

[Bulrumeb]

Grudinin - like a chameleon, changes color, after six years the situation will change, what color he will be unknown.

found something to reproach, Putin, too, the CPSU consisted, then in "our house is Russia", then in "EdRo", now opa - self-nominated

[kush62]

Bulrumeb Today, 13:43 PM ↑ New
Grudinin - like a chameleon, changes color, after six years the situation will change, what color he will be unknown.
found something to reproach, Putin, too, the CPSU consisted, then in "our house is Russia", then in "EdRo", now opa - self-nominated

So these parties did not intersect. We walked one after another. And your comrade billionaire is jumping like a frog from one to another.

[Antianglosax]

Well, Grudinin paid Zyuganov his nomination.

Why lie? He really did not know until the last, because if everything had been planned in advance, he would have withdrawn money from behind the hill in a timely and quiet manner. Perhaps the head of government will turn out to be tolerable from him, so in this vein, it makes sense to vote for him. Of course, I’m not attracted to the president. Here it’s necessary to go from the opposite - if the Western degenerates are all screaming that Putin must leave, then he is doing everything right! (However, he won’t get my vote - I don’t believe him, who lied more than once).

[Vasya Vassin]

Gold words! Join in

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Antianglosaks

Why lie? He really did not know until the last, because if everything had been planned in advance, he would have withdrawn money from behind the hill in a timely and quiet manner.

You are very naive. Read articles about Grudinin.
here for 2011 year
https://versia.ru/obrazcovo-pokazatelnoe-selxozpr
edpriyatie-rasplatilos-s-rabotnikami-klubnikoj-a-
ne-dengami
fresh article

The Kazankovs are trying to promote the former member of United Russia, Pavel Grudinin, who was trying to become a member of the LDPR. They want to see a berry tycoon who cannot decide on a party affiliation in any way as a single candidate from the left. On the official website of the Kazankov family and in the newspaper “The Voice of Truth”, an active PR company of the “berry” tycoon Pavel Grudinin was in full swing. Former United Russia party, an unaccomplished member of the LDPR, Grudinin is now trying to crawl into the presidency of Russia as a single candidate from the left. Well, the Kazankovs are helping him diligently, calling him a worthy person, a strong business executive, etc., etc., etc. ... The Presidium of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation should formulate its recommendations to the Plenum of the Central Committee on the candidate for the President of the Communist Party and Grudinin - among the main contenders.

Source: https://ch.versia.ru/kommunisty-otdayut-svoi-golo
sa-perebezhchiku-iz-edinoj-rossii

[Loess]

Why lie? He really did not know until the last, because if everything had been planned in advance, he would have withdrawn money from behind the hill in a timely and quiet manner.

But he didn’t bring them out now, they remained there over the hill and just passed them to their relative. He himself told journalists about this at a joint press conference with Zyuganov.

[MrK]

Quote: Antianglosaks

Of course, he’s not drawn to the president

And what did the KGB club pull for when he was elected president?

[Viking]

Before “him” was elected President of Russia, he managed to be the Chairman of the Government and the Director of the FSB.

[Gardamir]

managed to visit

That's exactly what to visit. For three years in five positions.

[Old]

Quote: Antianglosaks

Of course, he’s not drawn to the president

When I listened to him about Ukraine, he reminded me of Gorbachev, such a cat Leopold ... And yesterday he already said that we need to recognize Donbass or include it in the Russian Federation. Comrades will train them (progress is already visible). Zyuganov understands politics correctly. Of course, it would be great to run it in place of the prime minister, but there is no such possibility. And you need to do something.
And Grudinin’s brains work quickly, I noted yesterday. Faster than Trump for sure)

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Antianglosaks

Perhaps the head of government will make him bearable

that is, replace the “iPhone” with Grudinin? Well, in principle, "bash on bash" ... but what's the point?

[Captain45]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Well, Grudinin paid Zyuganov his nomination.

Yes, they are all there - women with low social responsibility, for loot someone and how you want to set up. Ugh ...

[Varyag_0711]

raw174 Today, 07:47 ↑ New
And who recorded it in the "folk"? What does this even mean: PEOPLE? People’s - if it is nominated by the meeting, and so it’s Zyuganovsky and comes from the party ...
I have nothing against Grudinin, but Putin is just as popular, he has also left the Russian people ...

I also don’t understand with what fright Grudinin entered the “popular” candidates? I personally am extremely unpleasant to him and I definitely do not want to see him as president. Or are we now comrade "populist" speaking on behalf of the whole people?
I repeat, I do not like what is happening inside the country. I do not like domestic politics, I do not like the so-called "reforms" in education, medicine, and the economy. BUT, no Grudinin will solve these problems from the word at all. He has no chance of this in the current system. Behind him there is no real power, neither the army, nor the police, nor the FSB, nor any other power system, which means he is NOBODY and there is NO call him. And he will dance to the tune of the oligarchs even more than Putin does now. Moreover, he is new to politics, why do we need a first grader? He’ll just be devoured.
So there is no need here to broadcast on behalf of the whole people. To me personally, such a candidate, and even a weather vane in addition, is not needed for nothing!

[freddyk]

Quote: raw174

And who recorded it in the "folk"? What does this even mean: PEOPLE? People’s - if it is nominated by the meeting, and so it’s Zyuganovsky and comes from the party ...

I’ll try to explain to you. People’s, because its popularity was raised by the people from 10% in December to, on average on an Internet, 50%, its people were untwisted. Almost no one knew him in December, and now almost everyone knows about him. What, thanks to the media? No, the media did not care about him at all. And now they only talk about him, as we say. And all this is thanks to the people, therefore popular. And then he is not from the Communist Party, he is a single candidate from all the left forces of Russia.

[raw174]

Quote: freddyk

People’s, because its popularity was raised by the people from 10% in December to, on average on an Internet, 50%, its people were untwisted.

Where are the numbers from? Poll in VK? Although no, there are schoolchildren, there is Sapchak and Navalny, here is "My World" at the time)))

Quote: freddyk

and now almost everyone knows about him.

Of course, he began to label Presidents, and so he gained fame ... But it’s possible that the people whom the people have put forward, and Zyuganov put it forward, are popular

Quote: freddyk

And then he is not from the Communist Party, he is a single candidate from all the left forces of Russia.

Wait, but he’s coming from the Communist Party to the elections ... Who supports him and is ill with his soul is the third thing.

[freddyk]

Quote: raw174

Where are the numbers from? Poll in VK? Although no, there are schoolchildren, there is Sapchak and Navalny, here is "My World" at the time)))

president-rf.ru, videomiting.ru, YOUR CHOICE2018.RF at least, and polls on Vesti Rossiya radio with Solovyov, on Zkho Moskvy say the same

[V. Salama]

Quote: raw174

... But the people may be the one whom the people put forward, and Zyuganov put forward it ...

A highly controversial statement. In a country like Russia, the people have no opportunity to nominate at all, but only to choose from among the nominated, including self-nominated. Or are the people only representatives of the party whose ideology you share?

[Viking]

Did you manage without media? Is the Internet not the media?

[avia1991]

Quote: Viking

Is the Internet not the media?

Of course not. Read the definition of what media is. The Internet is a data network.

[ds269]

In your opinion, Medvedev, that he had been covering Putin for a whole period, was also elected by the people. Putin - Yeltsin's henchman and his clique

[raw174]

Quote: ds269

In your opinion, Medvedev, that he had been covering Putin for a whole period, was also elected by the people. Putin - Yeltsin's henchman and his clique

Nobody christened them folk, none of them calls themselves PEOPLE. In general, yes, the people really vote, I worked in the PEC for 4 years, I personally counted the ballots in ballot boxes, the result of the vote is always the same, EdRO REALLY wins. I’ll even answer why, because not a single party goes to the village anymore, more people don’t see anyone, and EdRo visits every month, they help many people with targeted assistance. You can call it a bribe, but no one else. Maybe people see someone else in the cities, maybe they are against it, but they don’t go to the polls ...

[Old]

Something new about EdRo and the village)
That's about the LDPR heard two stories from real people.
EdRo wins purely on fraud, they have not had support from "PEOPLE" for a long time. Therefore, Putin himself is a nominee.

[avia1991]

[quote = raw174] personally considered ballot papers in ballot boxesvoting result always alone, EdRO REALLY wins. [/ Quote]
So, "opened the face of Gyulchatai!" ..
Once I touched it - how to fall out in the mud! I don’t know, maybe you were "lucky" with the station that the majority voted for Edro ..
But in general, yes, you are right: “the result is always the same”, and he is predestinated!

[Viking]

It’s strange. Henchman? And the fact that people have repeatedly voted for him in the presidential election is no longer considered to be?

[V. Salama]

Quote: Viking

It’s strange. Henchman? And the fact that people have repeatedly voted for him in the presidential election is no longer considered to be?

Of course it is. Being elected for a second term, he legitimized himself, securing the support of the people, crushed the oligarchs of the first wave slightly, set about forming a legitimate oligarchy through "privatization on special conditions" (I don’t think that you are participating in it, but it continues to go at full speed, however). The people that, he is inert, after EBN was in shock for a long time, he was glad that even a young one came, non-drinker. It is necessary to understand this. History teaches (on the example of Lyon weavers) that class consciousness can be formed within 200 years, and here the whole people, you know. But, the guarantor is a protege! and there’s nothing strange, because they put it. I myself read in the newspaper (I give a tooth) I don’t remember in which (KP, AiF options, others I read little) an article by a strange philosopher named Tsipko, a formerly convinced communist, who then found himself in the upper echelon of liberal circles and close to the body of the EBN. So in the article, he claims (because of the simplicity of his soul, his comrades probably piled on him for this puncture was not sickly) that he was personally present at the EBN telephone conversation with the Americans, in which he was begging them to be allowed to be replaced by Putin. At the same time, he argued that he loves America. And at one time, in one of the speeches, the guarantor proudly denounced that in Europe the entire top leadership of countries is being approved for posts in the United States. Clearly, he is the only president who did not go there for the label to reign.

[udincev]

Quote: raw174

and so he is Zyuganovsky and comes from the party ...

Another manipulism stupidly sold (or because of ignorance, misunderstanding) by unsuitable analysts-hangers-shapers.
Everyone knows (and says) that the party nominated - a fact. Another fact is ignored: the candidate may not be “popular”, but from the PDS of the NPSR (which includes the Communist Party - the most famous, popular, and the only one of them is the parliamentary party). In addition, Grudinin from the PDS comes with a team and an agreed program - this is somehow not spoken out by "analysts and commentators of a Russian scale."

[raw174]

Quote: udincev

the candidate may not be "popular"

That's because of this and cheese, I just asked you not to call him PEOPLE, you agreed with me, After all, the masses also support Putin, but neither he nor the people call him people ...

[Gardamir]

The masses also support Putin

May your Putin come to the debate, will the people support him for a long time after these debates?

[Viking]

So Putin holds “direct lines” every year and meetings with the press where he answers dozens of questions. And with whom should he debate? With Sobchachka or Zhirik? Is this his level?

[raw174]

Quote: Gardamir

May your Putin come to the debate, will the people support him for a long time after these debates?

But among all the world leaders, only he has such an experience in dealing with citizens and the press of all stripes ... Why not debate? But they ask both uncomfortable and difficult questions ...

[avia1991]

Quote: raw174

neither himself nor his entourage call the people ...

Really? .. So why did his campaign headquarters rip ass on a rose, collecting signatures for it? "Putin is our President!" - all pillars in Russia are hung with this! All the media just talk about his "closeness to the people," desperate to show that "everything is only for him!" WHAT FOR? Moreover, about the other candidates - SILENCE, or negative ..
Once again I ask: WHY? Confident of popular support, the President will not stoop to such a dirty game ..

[Viking]

And the program is "we are for all good and against all bad"? In general, as they say "panda get!". Somewhere already recently, this was and one "people's" oligarch became president. Since then they have healed. Exclusively on foreign tranches.

[Zefr]

Quote: raw174

And who recorded it in the "folk"? What does this even mean: PEOPLE? People’s - if it is nominated by the meeting, and so it’s Zyuganovsky and comes from the party ...

He is nominated by the assembly. And not Zyuganov personally. Simply Zyuganov has the right, as the leader of the Duma party, to nominate him. In another case, it would be necessary to carry out a common single candidate from the opposition as a self-nominated candidate, and this is a different procedure.

[Reserve officer]

I looked through the Internet, took the headings of articles about Grudinin. Positive is missing something. The media write the following:
"The Russians have decided: Grudinin will not rule their country"
"Laundry for the candidate. How Pavel Grudinin hid money"
"For what purpose the Grudinin project was created"
"Grudinin wants to fraternize with Ukraine and labor migrants. Why?"
"Critical analysis" 20 steps of Pavel Grudinin "
"Why did Grudinin have to personally go to Austria to close his transit account?"
"Hell's circus. Like the death of a supporter did not prevent the" triumph "of Grudinin"
"Pavel Grudinin and his puppeteers: The Washington Post burned the office."
"Compromising evidence on Grudinin is a guarantee that he will not go beyond"
"Who are you, Mr. Grudinin: why did questions about the candidate scare the Communist Party?"
"Zhirinovsky spoke about Grudinin's foreign assets"
"Users of social networks criticized Pavel Grudinin"
"Left wealth. Where did the Communist candidate 7,5 get billions of rubles?"
"Grudinin fell into a grand scandal"
"Communist capitalist: how the Grudinin conference failed"
"VTsIOM announced a downgrade of Grudinin"
"Who is behind the nomination of Grudinin?"
"An expert on reducing the rating of support for Pavel Grudinin: It is unlikely that he will gain at least some votes"
"The Communist Party saw the light: the Communists regretted the nomination of Grudinin"
One to one - the plot of the story of Mark Twain "How I ran for governor."
Do you remember the signature at the end of the story? ““ With perfect reverence, your once honest man, and now: the Vile Oathbreaker, the Montana Thief, the Tomb Defiler, the Blue Devils, the Dirty Dodger and the Sneaky Blackmailer Mark Twain. ”
In fact, our media should thank Grudinin. Indeed, unlike the literary hero of Mark Twain, Grudinin is not going to withdraw his candidacy. So our journalists can earn a lot of money - another two months you can water with mud. It’s easy to get rich.

[udincev]

Quote: Reserve officer

In fact, our media should thank Grudinin. Indeed, unlike the literary hero of Mark Twain, Grudinin is not going to withdraw his candidacy. So our journalists can earn a lot of money - another two months you can water with mud. It’s easy to get rich.

Everything is very correctly noticed, wonderful analytics. "Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye"

[avia1991]

Quote: Reserve officer

our journalists can still earn a lot of money - another two months you can water with mud. It’s easy to get rich.

Bravo, Alexey!
I just can’t like you: calmly and without emotion .. a hand reaches for a saber!

[Finches]

Until really populists appear in the camp of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I personally will never vote for them, because it’s a perdimonocle, when an oligarch who has “only” 7 billion rubles in different currencies proves to the electorate that he is for that would not be rich, shaking a portrait of the Leader of the revolution! Just for one reason - I’m still not quite going. Look! Joseph Vissarionovich, had a couple of tarpaulin and a jacket - is a Bolshevik, and Grudinin, who is spending the New Year holidays in Germany, is much less attractive in my eyes than Putin is relaxing in Khakassia!

[Smog]

Quote: Finches

Until the Communist Party camp appears

I do not know why? But it seems to me that in this camp The Communist Party of the Narodnik will never appear from the word at all. The Communists have to shake their camp by 90 percent. Better less, but better (IMHO)

[Finches]

I’ll tell you more - the use of the word “Communist” in the name of my “brand” - initially misleads us all, to put it mildly, playing bright memories of life in the Soviet Union!
Even by definition it is known that Communism implies the presence of highly developed productive forces, the absence of a division of society into social classes, states and money; all this is based on the abolition of private ownership of the means of production. That is, the owner Grudinin clearly does not fit into the basic concept of the communist idea! So why make a garden?

[Varyag_0711]

Zyablitsov Today, 10: 29 ↑
That is, the owner Grudinin clearly does not fit into the basic concept of the communist idea! So why make a garden?

Eugene, my respect! I will tell you more, Zyuganov himself and his comrades do not fit into the concept of communism. Once upon a time I believed them, but after Zyuganov’s betrayal in 1996, when he merged with EBN and all of us, I would personally have strangled this reptile.
Zyuganov, this Judas is parasitic in the name of the real Communists. I generally am silent about Grudinin, yesterday he was for the whites, today for the reds, and tomorrow God alone knows who he will be. On * the device, I saw such a president ...

[Captain45]

Quote: Varyag_0711

Zyuganov, this Judas is parasitic in the name of the real Communists. I generally am silent about Grudinin, yesterday he was for the whites, today for the reds, and tomorrow God alone knows who he will be. On * the device, I saw such a president ...

Well said. I watched their crap, disgrace, they couldn’t connect two words, Pasha Klubnichkin mumbled like a heifer, and Zyu was hiding behind the rules with no regulations and did not really answer.

[Svist]

Lying then why?

[Finches]

Alexey!
1996, it was just for Zyuganov who voted and generally voted for the last time ... Because in the "city" the word "electorate" I clearly felt - "puppet" ...

[avia1991]

Quote: Finches

just for Zyuganov voted and generally voted for the last time ..

What is the point then screaming about the "damned communists"? Since you did NOT vote, it means that you gave your right to express an opinion to those who participate in the vote! So there’s nothing to cheat on the topic “Who is better for Russia”! With the “help” of such “ignorers”, those who are there come to power - having, in fact, from 30 to 40%, at best, support, of the total number of people who have the right to vote! WHAT IS Proud OF ?!
I apologize for the harshness, but the fact is "in the face": if EVERYTHING came and voted, in Yaroslavl, for example, Putin would not have passed, and EdRo too. Even with a 40% turnout (!!! even less), the result had to be very "pulled". It was in 2011-12.

[Smog]

Quote: Finches

use in the name of your "brand"

That's exactly what just a brand., Even without quotes. They play on the nostalgia of the popular masses, although in essence the Communist Party of the Russian Federation now, of course, I may be wrong, at the moment it is more reminiscent of e-SDs.
But changing the name is fraught for the party with a loss of the electorate. A purchase a new ???? Hmm, very problematic. Although there are ideological communists in their ranks, in the original sense of the word, so to speak.

[Captain45]

Quote: Finches

Even by definition it is known that Communism implies the presence of highly developed productive forces, the absence of a division of society into social classes, states and money; all this is based on the abolition of private ownership of the means of production. That is, the owner Grudinin clearly does not fit into the basic concept of the communist idea! So why make a garden?

"Without theory, we need death, death, death" IV Stalin "Economic issues of socialism." What are you talking about, colleague, about which concept of the idea? The mass of the word doesn’t know this, the concept. It will attract more for insulting. The people know more than 160 characters in the gadget and can’t read. What they put into the gadget, that's what they say. Weaned to think, evaluate, and now they don’t want to. Who earlier and louder shouted after that herd and will go. "DBL, BLT". (C) S. Lavrov

[Old]

The Chinese were not prevented by communist ideology. This is a word.
And the goals and objectives declared by the coalition are the most urgent.
For their sake, people abandoned ideological disputes.
I would give Zyuganov the opportunity to rehabilitate.
I, like most ordinary people, have nothing to lose.

[stylet]

There is no communism in China, but we all have something to lose - our homeland.

[Nehist]

Every communist, if he is a true communist, must understand that equality in the sphere of consumption and individual life is pathetic, petty-bourgeois nonsense!
(I.V. Stalin)

[Alber]

Quote: Smog

The Communists have to shake their camp by 90 percent.

go 99% off

[uskrabut]

Quote: Finches

than Putin vacationing in Khakassia!

Are you seriously? Have you completely forgotten about PR?
I’ll say something about popular candidates, it’s better to have a well-off person, he even knows the value of money. And the rogue, seized upon power, will begin to row under him until the spade is taken away! I have seen such people as seizing power, they completely forget about people! I really do not believe in the honesty and decency of man in power.

[Finches]

Therefore, I will not change anything and I will not - personally I am satisfied with the GDP at 100%!

[woron333444]

Poroshenko in Ukraine seized upon the government stopped rowing with a shovel? There he generally rows with an excavator, and Grudinin is the same oligarch. Only the volumes are different. Or now his business, or all of Russia will work for him

[freddyk]

Quote: Finches

the oligarch, who has “only” 7 billion rubles in various currencies, proves to the electorate with foam at his mouth that he wouldn’t be rich by shaking the portrait of the Leader of the Revolution!

Now you understand that you now look just stupid, as you repeat the parrot. something that has long been refuted, and then you would before pouring bile into buckets, even if you read the program, it doesn’t have “That would not be rich”. It has "Whatever the Poor" And these are two big differences .. And do not compare it with Stalin, he is not Stalin (for now, at least). By the methods of Stalin, taking power is considered premature. There is a chance to take it absolutely legally

[Finches]

Man, take it easy on the bends! Grudinin, a communist like me, the Pope, no matter what is written in his program! To compose beautiful slogans about “equality and fraternity”, any other nonsense about “social justice”, you don’t need a lot of mind ... Especially when there is money earned by “honest” work for the benefit of capitalism!
I mean, you don’t need to rub points on the people! However, you’ve bought it, so it’s not for nothing that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is spawning eggs, writhing from itself the defenders of all the poor and oppressed!
And I’m sorry, I have long gone out of childhood to believe in stories!

[freddyk]

Quote: Finches

Grudinin, a Communist like me, Pope

I agree, so he was never a communist. In fact, he is a Social Democrat. Personally, I found out about his state farm (yes, ZAO, as we have with capitalism since the 91st, and state farms cannot be a priori) two years ago, and was simply shocked by what I saw. Therefore, I know that he does not push slogans, but does the real thing. How he kept his state farm (his own, it’s his homeland) I will not say, if interested, everything is in the public domain. And he was not nominated by the Communist Party, but nominated by the entire left front through elections. I know only one thing - Grudinin has already done a lot for the people, albeit only for his workers, and this, being in constant confrontation with the authorities, doesn’t want people to fit into the system. So the system should break it, but it does not break. And if you help him. he is capable of much, I believe in him. And Zyuganov, yes tfu on him. He wants to rake the heat with his own hands. But at least some benefit from him, yet he has political weight.

[Finches]

So why the hell am I supposed to change one Social Democrat for another? Yes, and I just like Putin more than Grudinin - that's all! GDP is the authority in the world, and, God forbid, they choose Grudinin - that’s how everyone will laugh, changed the brutal KGB-shnik to the strawberry king! And I don’t like to laugh at Russia ...

[freddyk]

Quote: Finches

Yes, and I just like Putin more than Grudinin - that's all!

This is where we would start. Everyone has their own preferences. But to write a deliberate lie and water the dirt, but the opponent would not be worth it. I’m not lying to Putin, I praise Grudinin. So you praise Putin for health.

[Finches]

How did I slander Grudinin? Called him a rich man? Is that not true?

[freddyk]

Quote: Finches

How did I slander Grudinin? Called him a rich man? Is that not true?

the oligarch, who has “only” 7 billion rubles in various currencies, proves to the electorate with foam at his mouth that he wouldn’t be rich by shaking the portrait of the Leader of the Revolution - this is pure lie

[Finches]

This is not a lie, but an expression! And she emphasizes reality - a private owner is nominated for the presidency using a communist platform! So there is no lie ...
If so he already itches to raise Russia from its knees, then he could run as an independent candidate, and not mow under the proletariat ...

[freddyk]

Quote: Finches

private owner is nominated for President using a communist platform!

And what's the crime? We have ALL private owners in our country. Or maybe you are for a homeless candidate?

[master35]

If you understand the essence of the question - HOW he was nominated by the Communist Party, it turns out that Grudinin is one of the compromise candidates put forward not only by the Communist Party, but also by all nationally and socially oriented parties and movements. And not just one of the candidates, but also chosen democratically to run for president of Russia. Strongly contradictory forces with respect to the past of the country converged on one, the main thing - the destructive policies of the current government and the urgent need to replace parasitism on the people with creation!

[Klaus]

And they are laughing at Russia: in a particularly cynical form. They laugh at the thieving "elite" when they arrest a senator with suitcases of money, laugh at athletes and dope, at smoking Kuzey, at counter-sanctions with Belarusian shrimp ... what’s it: foreigners openly laugh at expired propagandists in a zombie dog at a talk show all of us.

[Finches]

I do not think so!

[alexhol]

Klaus is right. If you don’t want Polish apples, hold on to Belarus, don’t want to fly to Egypt from Moscow — we are welcome from Minsk, there are no direct trains to Ukraine — two Russians were traveling with me in a compartment (train Minsk – Lviv). They are always ready to put “shoulder to a friend” so to speak. Well, we don’t understand, we are Belarusians who have the famine of the war years in their genes, how to bury food !!!

[Greenwood]

Quote: Finches

Yes, and I just like Putin more than Grudinin - that's all!

Kindergarten, chesslovo.

Quote: Finches

GDP in authority in the world, but, God forbid, they will choose Grudinin - so everyone will laugh

Your brutal KGB officer dumped from the KGB back in the 90th year. And then he became an honorary porter of the portfolio for Sobchak. That's for sure the authority. Yes, you look at his interview from the 90s, sits stuttering, endlessly thanks the high uncles, dragging him to another high position. Is it your authority?

Quote: Finches

a brutal KGB man, to the strawberry king! But I don’t like it when people laugh at Russia ...

Zyablitsev, you are comparing Putin, behind whose back 18 years in power and over whose image a bunch of people have been working, and Grudinin, who has never held important government posts. But for some reason it seems to me that if we compare Putin's model of 1999 and modern Grudinin, then the first will be simply miserable against the background of the second.

[VVK_VDB]

A little nuance - Putin is a glossy cover, behind which Chubais stands, on which there is no place to put stamps, the crazy Kudrin with Gref, and the accountant Nabiulin, and the rest of the liberal gop company. Putin's time has expired if he is elected, and it is very likely that in six years everyone will spit on his behalf.

[marline]

Quote: freddyk

How did he keep his state farm(it’s his own, this is his homeland) I will not say, if it’s interesting, everything is in the public domain.

But really how? After all, you have already collected the Old "about the great business manager Grudinin," so I think it will not be difficult for you to tell us: what is the number of cattle in the state farm named after him. Lenin? What are the milk yields? How many hectares are planted with wheat, rye and oats? What is the yield - how many centners per hectare are collected?
Or Grudinin still just primitive rentier living from the rent of large shopping malls located on land privatized by him?
The latter believe more)))

[freddyk]

Quote: merlin

Or is Grudinin still just a primitive rentier living from the rent of large shopping malls located on the land privatized by him? Recently, more is believed)))

It is clear that the lion's share of the wealth of Grudinin himself and the welfare of the workers of the state farm are based on the lease of leased land belonging to the state farm. I repeat; TO THE EMPLOYEE EVERYTHING IS EQUAL, WITH WHICH ARTICLE OF INCOME THEM, THEIR HEAD WILL PAY A WAY OF DUE. PLAT.CONSTRUCT HOME, KINDERGARTEN SCHOOLS I am saying that, having all the resources laid down in our state, Grudinin may be able to increase the well-being of the population, including the rural, albeit through subsidies

PS And what Putin doesn’t lease land from us, doesn’t sell natural resources? Sells and rents, only the funds from this are distributed very one-sidedly.

[marline]

Quote: freddyk

It is clear that the lion's share of the wealth of Grudinin himself and the welfare of the workers of the state farm are based on the lease of the leased land belonging to the state farm.

Here I propose to dwell on this. Grudinin is a rentier, not a business executive. Therefore, he will continue to follow the same logic - to sell, sell, sell, because he can’t do anything more ... At least because Grudinin did not create any successful enterprise at the state farm for the money raised from rent — that is, he does not invest, does not invest in production, but to live in the UAE or, in McCain's words to the “country of gas station” - eating up the wealth of the bowels, and I don’t want to. Those. this one:

Quote: freddyk

I mean that, having all the resources laid down in our state, Grudinin may be able to increase the well-being of the population, including the rural, albeit due to subsidies

It’s not necessary for nothing. For and this is hardly possible, because the UAE is warm ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: merlin

Here I propose to dwell on this. Grudinin is a rentier, not a business executive. Therefore, he will continue to follow the same logic - to sell, sell, sell, because he can’t do anything more ... At least because Grudinin did not create any successful enterprise at the state farm for the money raised from rent — that is, he does not invest, does not invest in production

Another lie, here's to expand your horizons - a report on a robotic dairy farm at the state farm, perhaps the first and only in the country

[marline]

And where is the milk from that one dairy farm in Russia?

[master35]

Out of approximately 2200 hectares of land (I don’t remember more precisely, I might be a little mistaken), about 300 are leased out (those at the Moscow Ring Road where you yourself understand that there will be harm from the exhaust of nearby cars). The rest is grown a lot of things, potatoes, beets, carrots, apples, and yes the same strawberries, which occupies only a small fraction of all income, but about which a lot of "buzz", calling a strawberry oligarch. And yes, there are cows, 500 animals, give a little more than 9000 liters per year of milk, and the farm has the most advanced equipment. But these same all need at least to take an interest, study the issue. It’s easier to water based on your preferences!
P.S. And yes, he has a 44% stake in Lenin State Farm CJSC, but the charter states that dividends are not paid, but are used to increase salaries, additional payments to pensioners, and the development of the enterprise. And he lives in the same house with tractor drivers, turners, etc.

[marline]

Quote: master35

Out of approximately 2200 hectares of land (I don’t remember more precisely, I might be a little mistaken), about 300 are leased out (those at the Moscow Ring Road where you yourself understand that there will be harm from the exhaust of nearby cars). The rest is grown a lot of things, potatoes, beets, carrots, apples, and yes the same strawberries, which occupies only a small fraction of all income, but about which a lot of "buzz", calling a strawberry oligarch. And yes, there are cows, 500 animals, give a little more than 9000 liters per year of milk, and the farm has the most advanced equipment. But these same all need at least to take an interest, study the issue.

I won’t believe it, but I asked. Link to the website of ZAO "State Farm named after Lenin" - http://sovhozlenina.ru/price/
In the section "products" there is no information about meat and dairy products of the state farm. They are apparently selling milk and meat somewhere to the side.
Regarding the lease of land near the Moscow Ring Road, because there exhausts and strawberries can not be particularly pleased to grow. From Yandex-cards, the road to Domodedovo Airport:
To the left of the trees is a strawberry field. Previously, in the summer it was possible to admire guests from the sunny south working for food. Now there is a frail fence, so you will not admire it, but the number of cars has increased.

[your1970]

9000 milk is only 2 (!!!) milk carriers per year (!!!) with 500 cows, less than 20 liters from the nose (assuming all 500 cows !! Without cows, the cows do not milk ) is the level of average rural economy WITHOUT modern equipment. The average milk yield with ADVANCED equipment should be from 40 to 60 liters per day

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: your1970

9000 milk is only 2 (!!!) milk carriers per year (!!!) with 500 cows, less than 20 liters from the nose (assuming all 500 cows !! cows do not milk without bulls) - this is the level of average rural economy WITHOUT modern equipment. Average milk yield with ADVANCED technology should be from 40 to 60 liters per day

Well, the blogger who visited there not so long ago claims that

Each cow of the Lenin State Farm produces an average of 32,5 liters of premium milk per day - a high figure even by European standards. Cows go milking three times a day. The process of obtaining milk is robotic and automated, however, not only the machine, but also the person monitors the condition of the animal during milking.
Completely here, with photos https://novikovski.livejournal.com/587882.html

Apparently, master35 meant that 9000 liters per cow per year. It is quite a normal result for our climatic conditions, although if 32.5 * 356 = 11570, but not a specialist, perhaps the cows are not milked for a full year. By the way, in Israel they write that they have 11, 343 liters a year and are probably cooler than in Europe

[Sewer krainiy]

Sorry, but I’ll correct you a little: there are cows, 500 animals, give a little more than 9000 liters per year of milk, must be added - from one cow.

[Old]

Communist, capitalist? Who cares? If he says the right thing!
Should corruption be fought?
Do you need to plant thieves?
Should bankers be forced to invest in their own production?
Do you believe Putin will do this?
A serious course adjustment is needed.
And Grudinin is not a balobol, his state farm is confirmation of this.

[marline]

Quote: Old

Communist, capitalist? Who cares? If he says the right thing!

Star language - do not toss bags.)))
By your logic, you need to choose poets for president - that’s who can speak beautifully and in poetry!

Quote: Old

And Grudinin is not a balobol, his state farm is confirmation of this.

The state farm lives with land rents - the land near the Moscow Ring Road is too painful. As one commentator noted at VO here: "do you think the Grudinin MKAD will extend to Vladivostok?"

[master35]

Here you can see about the land rent on which ZAO "state farm named after Lenin" lives. One nuance of the video was shot in 2013, this is to say that the salaries announced in the video were then. And in other matters, if you delve into, inquire, the situation has become better.

[marline]

Advertising - such an advertisement)))
Here, in the comments, figures were already cited, according to which the enterprise ZAO Lenin State Farm was unprofitable.
But you can continue to believe the ad, do not forget to put on a foil hat)

[avia1991]

Quote: Finches

I mean, you don’t need to rub points on the people!

Excuse me, is your Putin doing this every day ?!
And then, about “everything suits me personally”: you don’t vote, you yourself admitted. Why then go broke? You, it turns out, EVERYTHING IS EQUAL?

[97110]

Quote: freddyk

There is a chance to take it absolutely legally

Is it called holy naivety? A chance tending to 0? Modern bourgeois, in the skin in 1917, having felt what it means to “give up power”, will fight for their own money to the last. Neither Denikin nor Kaledin smells like them. They will surrender the country to NATO, the USA, China with all Chinese communism, to anyone, but so that these people are on their capitals ... Don’t you get to anyone!

[your1970]

Quote: freddyk

Now you understand that you now look just stupid, as you repeat the parrot. that which has long been refuted, and

1) no one denies the presence of 44% of the shares — it’s 3 billion of assets that he can sell at any time to anyone who wants to (at least Obama / Trump) - such is the law on CJSC
2) will he come to power to carry out his program or the Communists? If the Communists then there is written in Russian about the nationalization of all large business. ZAO is currently a legally large business
3) to him before Stalin, as before China ...

[Svist]

Quote: your1970

2) will he come to power to carry out his program or the Communists? If the Communists then there is written in Russian about the nationalization of all large business. ZAO is currently a legally large business

Sly ...

We will put the wealth of Russia, its natural, industrial and financial resources at the service of the people. We will nationalize strategically important and systemically important industries, electric power industry, railways, communication systems, leading banks. The state will regain its monopoly on the production and wholesale of ethyl alcohol. This will give an impetus to development and bring treasury trillions of rubles annually; will allow the formation of a development budget instead of a budget of impoverishment and degradation.

And where is the nationalization of big business here? And then, why should the progressive tax be collected? With a garage tire or something?

[your1970]

I got stuck spreading the Communist Party program here, open it and read it carefully ...
- read ITS guidance documents ..
"The third stage. Its content will be vigorous work on the final the formation of socialist social relations, ensuring the sustainable development of the socialist system on its own basis. Public ownership will dominate on fixed assets. As level increases the real socialization of labor and production their decisive role in the economy will gradually be established "
and no one is interested in a progressive tax in such cases ...

Z.Y. and if you think that this is a program 50 years ahead — you are mistaken for one simple reason — if the Communist Party does not fulfill the minimum program during the first term and the majority of the program — the people will say how do these differ from those? and the Communist Party will immediately lose all the old adherents (who had made the USSR) and most of the new ones. The people will not wait for a "bright future" now ...

[avia1991]

Quote: your1970

CJSC is currently a legally large business

Goofy! Why? The size of a business is generally estimated by turnover. And the state farm is more likely to be attracted to the "medium" than to the large - to Rotenberg and Deripaska to him, as to the moon!

[Smog]

Quote: freddyk

By the methods of Stalin, taking power is considered premature.

And what did Joseph Vissarionovich come to power through a coup, revolution, open armed rebellion, coup?

Quote: freddyk

There is a chance to take it absolutely legally

Are you so sure that in the highest echelons of power at the moment there is no "under the carpet" struggle, intrigue and other tricks in the struggle for a place in the sun ????? I think you are deeply mistaken.

[Viking]

Well, about 7,5 yards, sort of sorted out. But the New Year holidays in Germany “fit in with the image of a“ candidate from the people. ”The people will happily support their so-called“ director of the state farm ”as an easy and relaxed vacationer in Germany.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Finches

Until really populists appear in the camp of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I personally will never vote for them, because it’s a perdimonocle, when an oligarch who has “only” 7 billion rubles in different currencies proves to the electorate that he is for that would not be rich, shaking a portrait of the Leader of the revolution!

He doesn’t have any 7.5 billion, it's just a lie

[Finches]

Poor, poor strawberry king ... Read yesterday’s AIF, it already says that right after returning from the New Year holidays from sunny Germany, Pavel Nikolayevich rushed to the CEC, they say the error came out - not everything was indicated in the declaration ... I forgot, poor fellow!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stirbjorn

it's just a lie

Exactly.
Explain, pzhlst, 3 times the phrase repeated in the document:
... market price security N rubles...
Not “bundles of paper”, not “securities (of this type)”, but also “securities”. One
Is your candidate illiterate? He does not have a person who can correctly compose such a scribble?
Sorry for him

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Is your candidate illiterate? He does not have a person who can correctly compose such a scribble?
Sorry for him

We look at the form for filling out documents

http://www.garant.ru/products/ipo/prime/doc/71723
424 /
Decree of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation of November 22, 2017 No. 111 / 913-7 “On the List and Forms of Documents Submitted by Candidates Authorized by Representatives of Political Parties to the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation during the Presidential Election of the Russian Federation”

2.14. Information on the amount and on the sources of income of the candidate and his spouse for the six years preceding the year of the election of the President of the Russian Federation, on property owned by the candidate and his spouse by right of ownership (including joint ownership), on accounts (deposits) in banks, securities, on property obligations of the candidate and his spouse on paper in the form according to Appendix 3 to the Federal Law and in machine-readable form (subparagraph 3, paragraph 11 of Article 35 of the Federal Law) (Appendix No. 14 to the Resolution ).
Further, Appendix No. 14
Information on the amount and sources of income, property, accounts (deposits) in banks, securities and property obligations of a candidate for the position of the President of the Russian Federation and his spouse
(9.4) Other property
(9.4.1) Securities
(9.4.1.2) Other securities
9.4.1.2.1 Type of security (bond, promissory note, check, certificate, etc.)
9.4.1.2.6 Number of securities
9.4.1.2.7 Total cost in rubles for each type

The CEC adopted and approved the documents, the total amount of the entire type of securities is indicated in the form, and not one - what are the issues? In the Central Election Commission are not literate sitting?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Stirbjorn

The CEC adopted and approved the documents, the total amount of the entire type of securities is indicated in the form, and not one - what are the issues? In the Central Election Commission are not literate sitting?

These witnesses of the sect of the valerschikskolen arguments are not heard. They will now have a new fenya, since the CEC missed, it means the Kremlin’s project.

[Old]

Quote: Stroporez

means the Kremlin’s project.

I have the impression that they are the Kremlin’s own project. It is painfully stubbornly stoked for an obvious lie.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stirbjorn

The CEC accepted and approved the documents; the total amount of the entire type of securities is indicated in the form

In Appendix 3 to ... - exactly so. There is a tablet
Where in the Supplement from the candidate G. there is a plate a la Appendix 3, show with your finger ... I can’t see her point-blank

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Golovan Jack

In Appendix 3 to ... - exactly so. There is a tablet

I did not understand the issue, in Appendix No. 3 to the resolution of the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation of November 22, 2017 No. 111 / 913-7 I see only the application form.
And then, if something is missing, then write immediately to the CEC, but I don’t work there - they registered and approved Grudinin! I can only evaluate something from actual documents

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stirbjorn

I can only evaluate something from actual documents

Pra-a-aavilno ...
And in the actual document (you posted a screenshot there .. finally) Russian in white says: cost Paper.
Well, like children, damn it

Quote: Stirbjorn

they registered and approved Grudinin

Well, they did everything right ... Grudinin, like, got rid of these bamagos

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Golovan Jack

And in the actual document (you posted a screenshot there .. finally) Russian in white says: paper cost.
Well, like children, damn it

and according to the form of appeal - The total cost in rubles for each type, and not just one thing, otherwise at least there was an appendix (1 pc.) - Maybe it’s the custom to write when it comes to securities, I have never owned Eurobonds, I don’t know how to correctly indicate the case! I’m not a lawyer, but from personal experience, I know for sure that if you don’t fill out the form, including cases, then you won’t take the usual application for a passport - and here’s the candidate for President of the Russian Federation! So according to the documents, Grudinin has not 7.5 billion, but 37.5 million, which he claims. Who does not agree, let him send a request to the CEC clarifying, although I have no doubt that they have already sent, he simply did not like the answer.

[Captain45]

Quote: Stirbjorn

He doesn’t have any 7.5 billion, it's just a lie

Well, you are funny people, give a screen where it is written in black and white - the market value of valuable PAPER (PAPER i.e. ONE UNIT) 13903700 rubles, and such papers 200 pieces (TWO). Well, what do you multiply or help: 200pcs.x13903700rub. = 2780740000 OR TWO BILLION SEVEN EIGHTY MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND THOUSAND rubles. Nothing at all, so trifle, to his wife on pins.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Captain45

Well you are funny people

Well then you are much funnier. Are you for Putin’s command, for Medvedev, Naibulin, Dvorkovich, Kinder Surprise, Sechin, Miller, Rotenbergs, Timchenko, Friedman?
Or do you have another in mind?

Shl.

200pcs.h13903700rub. = 2780740.000

And your numbers are Solovyov’s delirious fake.

[Finches]

And who are you drowning for? For the same ones! As they say in the army, the same x ....., only in the other hand

[Sling cutter]

Grudinin and his team of the People’s Patriotic Forces are not going to blame for the hill, and yours are nailed to Malta already, and to the cellists with the other end
What is there that the Friedman refused to finance the military-industrial complex? But has Potanin already poured 500million raccoons into mattress charitable foundations in exchange for loyalty? You have a good team, “bright” and unsullied, with a great head.

And also tell me a fairy tale, how the "brightest" does not know how his subordinate cuts 5 lyamas a day, but this one does not know, does not stop and receives kaneshnsha less than the subordinate And then about the trailer from the Volga and the "Zaporozhets" on the lottery ticket.
Boo-ha-ha.
Here about your idols

[Varyag_0711]

Stroporez Today, 13:53 ↑
Grudinin and his team of the People’s Patriotic Forces are not going to bring down the hill

Yeah ... blessed is he who believes!
He probably keeps pure money from the "patriotic" considerations over the hill? Well, it’s direct “patriot” from patriots, it’s direct “schaz” that I am burdened with emotion.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Varyag_0711

He probably keeps pure money from the "patriotic" considerations over the hill?

You still don’t want to hear anything It will be interesting to look, but no, there is no trial.
Vote for Nedimon

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Varyag_0711

He probably keeps pure money from the "patriotic" considerations over the hill? Well, it’s direct “patriot” from patriots, it’s direct “schaz” that I am burdened with emotion.

Did you watch the conference yesterday? He opened an account beyond the hill to pay for the treatment of a close relative - or is this not patriotic, let him die here ?!

[Varyag_0711]

Stirbjorn Today, 14:15 ↑
Did you watch the conference yesterday? He opened an account beyond the hill to pay for the treatment of a close relative - or is this not patriotic, let him die here ?!

Stroporez Today, 14:15 ↑
You still don’t want to hear anything. What will be interesting to see, but no, there is no trial.

Your division, men, are you like adults, or am I mistaken? Give you a fork for removing noodles from your ears?
However, these are your problems, you still won’t convince me, let alone Grudinin. So good luck voting. As they say, vote with your heart, we’ve already voted “heart” once, everyone knows the result ...

[Finches]

The oligarch Poroshenko - for the Ukrainian people, the oligarch Grudinin for the Russian, the oligarch Trump for the American .... Lenin, Marx and Lenin are cherished in the next world - the bourgeois fight for the happiness of the working class without sparing their stomach ...

[Gardamir]

holds money over the hill?

Are you talking about Putin and Nabiullina?

[Viking]

Putin has the very yards of green $ that the best intelligence of the world cannot find?

[Captain45]

Quote: Stroporez

Well then you are much funnier. Are you for Putin’s command, for Medvedev, Naibulin, Dvorkovich, Kinder Surprise, Sechin, Miller, Rotenbergs, Timchenko, Friedman?

If the garlic, then I do not drown for anyone, but rather would have drowned some of the listed for unsuitability. I’m ridiculous of another, you got a simulacrum of ebullient public activity in the form of the Internet and you seduced by pouring buckets of slop on each other and pushing the throat for people whom you not only do not know, but personally didn’t see, but tear the point for sibling. Freaks

[Old]

Quote: Captain45

pouring buckets of slop on top of each other

It is gratifying that this has not come to this. In general, in VO the public was brought up (by the army, probably). And disputes are a useful thing in this case. It will help determine who to vote for in March. I also like Putin in my own way.
Each person, looking back at his life, can choose his most important act.
Someone returned the Crimea.
Someone nominated a man who then returned the Crimea.
Zyuganov lost his place, and perhaps only this will remain in history.

[Ragoz]

Old:
You don’t see how many commentators from the dicks crawled out to this article. Apparently from above was the order "fas."

[Zefr]

Quote: Captain45

TWO BILLION SEVEN EIGHTY MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND THOUSAND rubles

I may not understand something, but how can two billion be removed from a state farm in 2200 hectares?
Share the technology.

[Captain45]

Quote: Zefr

I may not understand something, but how can two billion be removed from a state farm in 2200 hectares?
Share the technology.

This is not for me. I just calculated the numbers presented in the document. On the issue of technology, how to remove it, this is to the owner-Grudinin P.N.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

http://ru.cbonds.info/emissions/issue/36755 Вы бы хоть чуть поинтересовались вопросом чтобы не выглядеть круглым балбесом.

[udincev]

Quote: Finches

Here, Joseph Vissarionovich, had a pair of tarpaulin and a jacket - this is a Bolshevik

And imagine, Joseph Vissarianovich came to the 2018 election from ... (no matter who or himself). The reaction of the media and others?

[avva2012]

Quote: Zyablitsev Until populists really appear in the camp of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, I personally will never vote for them

In fact, you are voting with your feet For the financial-oligarchic clan. IN AND. Lenin wrote on this subject: “Under capitalism, there is no real participation of the exploited masses in the government, if only because under the most democratic conditions under capitalism, governments are not appointed by the people, but by the Rothschilds and Stinges, the Rockefellers and the Morgan. Democracy under capitalism, there is capitalist democracy, the democracy of the exploited minority, resting on the restriction of the rights of the exploited majority and directed against this majority. " Today, we all have to choose from two evils. Grudinin, the lesser evil, because, coming to power, the clan of "industrialists" is good for the country, otherwise the destruction of the country and death. Will not appear, Joseph Vissarionovich, having a pair of tarpaulin and a jacket, yet "idea there will not be a mass consciousness "and a revolutionary situation will not arise. In our country there is neither one nor the other. There is not even a really revolutionary class, proletariat. All this will need to be created yet, but this will take time. If there are those who remain in power now, there will be no time.

[Captain45]

Quote: avva2012

Grudinin, the lesser evil, because, coming to power, the clan of "industrialists" is good for the country,

With the fact that if the "clan of industrialists" like Savva Morozov comes to power, I agree. only investments in real production giving a product suitable for implementation can give development to the economy, but only rentier Grudinin, well, not at all from the word "completely" is an industrialist. Even in his "20 steps" that shake the entire Internet, there is not a single concrete proposal for industrial development, one solid blah blah blah. By the way, I blithely blah blah blah because I demanded, I outlined after the next congress of the CPSU and saw concrete results. So there is nothing to compare.

[avva2012]

You know, you and I are probably used to the fact that for a long time, we were driven into the heads of one idiom, supposedly, I.V. Stalin, such, and N.S. Khrushchev, such, and further, Nicholas 2, Peter the First, etc. Yes, often a lot depends on the main person, but if you look at the story without prejudice, it turns out that the Person is only a reflection of those processes that are objectively taking place. The king is made by the retinue. And it is they who come to power, and not a specific person.
Reforms are really matured and overripe already. Since we understand this, depending on how warehouses with goods stand on the site of production shops, having all the information in it, those to whom all the information flows together cannot understand this.
Just happening before our eyes, the main principle of capitalism, competition. The "financiers" do not hell with horns, they only obey the objective laws of the market, "you need to crush the competitor," which means that the money they possess should not go into industry, thus developing the warring clan. In the West, the mechanism for changing some clans by others has been developed for a long time, from here comes their "democracy", and for us, this is the first time. As the "liberals" came to power in the 1991 year, that is, financial capital, which at that time had the opportunity to accumulate on fraud, speculation, etc., so it irreplaceably holds power. In China, the party remained in power there, which, again for objective reasons (poverty) had to be built, not speculated. Now, we see the result.

one solid blah blah blah

Do you know what theses mean? Here it is. As it is for real, no one will tell us.

[Alber]

Quote: populist

So we were told why Navalny and Putin’s goddaughter (Sobchak) were not a cake, but now everyone rushed to the collective farm chairman as if on command. Has the team really passed?
Apparently, yes.

not with a simple sternum PR, for good reason!
but in fact, like all the "God-chosen", it’s just a blown bubble! what is his president? Yes, he’s up to the normal president as before donkey’s Easter ....
if for whom I would vote knowing that the person will fight for the Russian people, it’s for the late Kondratenko, the ex-governor of the Kuban. if he were alive. The most decent was a man!
and now only "talented" crooks are torn ...

[freddyk]

And who is his PR?

[mcqway]

Well, the team passed. So what?
All over the world like that.
And about the type of popular candidate ... Do not tell my tomatoes.
What is he, on ..., folk. ))))
Let him first plow for the good of the Motherland, show himself, and then already rock the country to steer.

[Xnumx vis]

Voronenkov or Voronenkov is also a frame from this clip. Yes, and blindly do not believe everything. Mr. Comrade Gorbachev, as he sang !!! The entire 20 millionth CPSU detachment listened spellbound .. The result is known. To the applause of the members of the CPSU, the country was destroyed. From this Grudinin-Gorbachev strongly smacks of Maidan .. Perestroika, redistribution, destruction of the country !!

[Russia]

Yavlinsky for 400 days was supposed to equip Russia, the same for 20 steps, well, is it nonsense, how many can you listen to!

[Captain45]

Quote: Rusland

Yavlinsky for 400 days was supposed to equip Russia, the same for 20 steps, well, is it nonsense, how many can you listen to!

400 days: 20 steps = 20 days one step. Well, and the brake, cleaner Baltic.

[Rodimets]

Yavlinsky has 500 days. But there may be "100 days that shocked the world."

[Captain45]

Quote: Rodimets

But there may be "100 days that shook the world."

Actually, John Reed had "10 days that shocked the world."

[alekc73]

You can fool 1 person for some time, it’s not possible to lie to everyone for an unlimited time. Lying as a pregnancy will come out. Let them draw what they want, people don’t believe the media and the tele-zombie. It’s as if our homeland had learned to become a prosperous country.

[g1v2]

Are you serious? Grudinin is a technical candidate for raising turnout. Like Prokhorov last time. Moreover, they are PR, defend and attack him, as a rule, the federal media. Some defiantly attack, others defend. That VO seems to have got the work of a lawyer, others - a prosecutor. But watching is fun.

[stylet]

Grudinin is not a popular candidate

[user]

Quote: populist

The very imperious elite was frightened of the popular candidate, and even against the background of their failures.

Well, let's say the candidate is not popular, like even a ruble billionaire, although a simple colonel had 9 billion in cash in the apartment, but all the same, the top fussed. Although what they expect with such an internal economic policy is a mystery to me. Maybe they expect that everyone will rush to the ballot boxes, pushing each other away, to vote for Putin.

It's time to start fussing.

[Baby sitter]

MP Did you get to this? Or who suggested? 77777

[Andrey Yuryevich]

The media amicably bury Grudinin

-the fatal mistake, in our country, they always stood up for the persecuted. now a lot of mud will be poured on Grudinin, they are too apparently afraid. He should not be the president (this time, for sure), but instead of Medvedev-completely. I-for him.

[Gardamir]

instead of Medvedev -

but with Putin? God have mercy! Do you represent Kolchak and Budyonny in one headquarters? ..

[andj61]

Quote: Gardamir

instead of Medvedev -

but with Putin? God have mercy! Do you represent Kolchak and Budyonny in one headquarters? ..

But what, aren’t Putin and Zyuganov now in quite official power structures? Moreover, they are successfully cooperating! Here it’s not Kolchak and Budyonny in the same headquarters that should be cited as an example, but, for example, Trotsky and Stalin — if we take the Civil era. Or Denikin and Shkuro. And in both cases, they collaborated quite well at a certain stage - despite the contradictions in their views.

[Gardamir]

official power structures?

but then Grudinin should become Medvedev, only under such conditions Putin will take Grudinin.

[freddyk]

Quote: Gardamir

but then Grudinin should become Medvedev

Will do, do not want to, make

[andj61]

Quote: Gardamir

official power structures?

but then Grudinin should become Medvedev, only under such conditions Putin will take Grudinin.

Under no circumstances should Medvedev be taken! Likewise, any other characters of a similar plan. Under our system of power, Putin may not be afraid of anyone in this position. Moreover, the president from any prime minister can ask in full and dismiss is not so difficult. On the contrary, any outsider in this post will only be a plus to the president.

[avva2012]

Quote: andj61 Under no circumstances should Medvedev be taken!

Nevertheless, they long ago agreed that Medvedev, a liberal, that is, a protege of financial capital with us. Grudinin, a protege of industrial capital and, naturally, he is not a communist at all. The Social Democrat is convinced, and he does not hide it. But the most important thing, in my opinion, the Grudinin team (industrial lobby), it is profitable to develop production in the country, and not to export money abroad. What else do we need?

[marline]

Quote: avva2012

Grudinin, a protege of industrial capital

Information slipped that he was a protege of Misha Khodorkovsky. Are you talking about this, doctor?
And at the same time, you really think of a person who is warmly received at the Ekho Moskvy radio station (the mouthpiece of the liberal public) and who wants to give a position in the government to liberal Navalny, a socialist ... get around until it's too late ...

[Gardamir]

(mouthpiece of the liberal public)

wait a minute, this mouthpiece contains Gazprom, which seems to be subordinate to Putin by the action

[marline]

Quote: Gardamir

(mouthpiece of the liberal public)

wait a minute, this mouthpiece contains Gazprom, which seems to be subordinate to Putin by the action

Does it change anything?

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: merlin

Does it change anything?

this is the law, who pays and orders)))

[marline]

From what is it ???
So your G. paid and ordered P. So why are you then tearing a throat for him? Or have you been paid too?

[avva2012]

You have information slipping through, it’s clear, but you didn’t try to read analytics about the Western economy? Not the one that says "Tryndets America", but normal, not biased? So, if you think a little, then very interesting things are seen both about them and about us. And about hodor, you just came up with it. And personally, your comments, I remember. Explicit patriot.

[marline]

You have a good memory. Yes, apparently, unlike you, I am a patriot.

[avva2012]

Yes, I’m not complaining. Which country?

[marline]

Quote: avva2012

Which country?

You do not distinguish flags?)

[avva2012]

And where does the flag? If you come up with stories on the go, and not in favor of the flag that is next to your nickname, then for which country do you try?

[marline]

Quote: avva2012

And where does the flag? If you come up with stories on the go, and not in favor of the flag that is next to your nickname, then for which country do you try?

Doctor, you should go to the doctor. I would still understand your indignation if you betrayed state secrets, but you accuse me of treason, only on the basis of my criticism of candidate Grudinin. You know - go to the garden ...

[avva2012]

To the garden or to the doctor? This is not treason; for me I have no facts. For now, this is just slander. Yes, and Grudinin, nothing to do with it. Why, I wrote in other comments, so I won’t repeat myself.

[marline]

Quote: avva2012

To the garden or to the doctor?

Yes, where do you like more there and go ... I do not mind ...

Quote: avva2012

This is not treason; for me I have no facts.

Thank God!

Quote: avva2012

For now, this is just slander.

Grudinin may sue.

Quote: avva2012

Yes, and Grudinin, nothing to do with it.

Here are those times ... That throat was torn for him, and now there is nothing to do with it ... Somehow with the sequence you have not really ...

Quote: avva2012

Why, I wrote in other comments, so I won’t repeat myself.

I understand that it is offered to me wretched to read your GREAT COMMENTS? Thank you very much.
However, I’m afraid that there is nothing but: “Chef, everything is lost” and “we have a year to go”, I won’t read there. And such cries from various gurus (among them there are even Amer presidents) I have heard and read since 2003. - while you see it is alive, healthy, well-fed and, even, with the Internet.

[avva2012]

Okay, I'll go see if you are there.
I read your great comments, did not break, but I understand that this is not a royal thing. I am extremely grateful that you, at least, answered me. Slowly. Year of your coming of age in every sense appreciated.
I didn’t understand one thing, forgive the wretched little mind, which one did you write? Patriot, so patriot. To the garden, so to the garden. Go your way calmly. If there are elements of state treason in your actions, it's not for me to decide, so do not worry. Especially for you.

[marline]

Quote: avva2012

I am extremely grateful that you, at least, answered me.

You're welcome. It was nice to talk.

Quote: avva2012

Okay, I'll go look

Reach unsubscribe, how are you there. All the best to you, good luck.

[avva2012]

eccentric, man. Really with adulthood in 2003, I guessed. Well, nothing, anyway, already an adult.

[marline]

Quote: avva2012

Really with adulthood in 2003, guessed

Doctor, insight is not your forte)))
I still have a newspaper from 2003. - in which it is written in black and white that "Putin is a thief and robbing Russia" and "if you vote for Putin, then the country will not live longer than a year." In short, the region is just like yours (yes, I deliberately looked at your comments: hell is a curve, heap is oblique - if only not for Putin? Does it seem so?) ...
How many years have passed, but the rhetoric does not change ... So I’m tired of reading about "everything is lost."

[Alber]

Quote: merlin

You have a good memory. Yes, apparently, unlike you, I am a patriot.

Well yes! Feels "patriot" on sales of national property

[marline]

Quote: Alber

Quote: merlin

You have a good memory. Yes, apparently, unlike you, I am a patriot.

Well yes! Feels "patriot" on sales of national property

Like in the water ... Excuse me ... You are not worthless my fighter, answer the simple question: what do you call "public property"?
It seems to me that you are "confusing your personal wool with the state."

[woron333444]

And he is eager to become Medvedev. He understands that the presidency does not shine for him

[NordUral]

Or maybe Grudinin will take Putin to the government as the foreign minister? Just for your preferred interests. For the economy - Glazyev’s team, Prime Minister Boldyrev, Minister of Defense General Savelyev with Deputy Kvachkov, and so on, there is a choice, there are options.

[Captain45]

Quote: andj61

But what, aren’t Putin and Zyuganov now in quite official power structures?

Please tell me what official public position related to the authorities does Zyuganov hold?

[nadezhiva]

We found something to blame - the money was abroad. But who, let’s say, have them from the powers that be?

That’s not the point. The mere presence of money does not interest anyone. Here the nonsense is different: where and when did they appear. The joke is that “as if a communist” itself cannot give a clear answer to this question.
In his latest declaration, such amounts were not included. And in the penultimate too.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: nadezhiva

In his latest declaration, such amounts were not included. And in the penultimate too.

These amounts are fake, invented litter -tv.
Here is the first person:
https://youtu.be/Ogk0rjzUSns

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stroporez

Here is the first person

Would prefer "from the CEC of the Russian Federation"

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Would prefer "from the CEC of the Russian Federation"

http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/dohod_
grudinin.html
You climb in and look, otherwise you'll have another six months to talk about 7,5 lard!
And if you say that laziness, then here
The website shows the sources and the total amount of Grudinin’s income for the six years preceding the election year — 157 rubles. They consist of, inter alia, salary, bonus for participation in the competition, income from deposits, as well as material assistance.
According to the materials on the CEC website, there are a total of 5,92 million rubles on five accounts, Grudinin also owns shares in Lenin State Farm CJSC and a stake in TT Development LLC.
Director of the Lenin State Farm Pavel Grudinin is registered with the Central Election Commission of the Russian Federation as a candidate for the post of president of Russia. January 12, 2018
© RIA Novosti / Evgeny Biyatov
Go to the photo bank
Grudinin closed foreign accounts
In addition, published data on the income of the wife of the candidate for president: Irina Grudinina over the past six years, a total of 2,62 million rubles earned. Among real estate, she has two apartments in Moscow; She also owns two Lexus cars. Irina Grudinina has a total of about 11 million rubles in 2 accounts, she also owns a stake in TAIR LLC.


RIA Novosti https://ria.ru/election2018_news/20180112/1512514
695.html
Well, this is to completely close the topic!

[Golovan Jack]

Well, let's start ... from the tail, as befits a mongoose:

Quote: Stroporez

Well, this is to completely close the topic!

Doesn’t. Article dated 12.12.2017, “Supplements” (where lard), candidate G. submitted ... 08.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX.
So the "close" ... does not work

Quote: Stroporez

You climb and look yourself

I have already been there, more than once. And the addresses of the appearance laid out ... also repeatedly.
There is a point "Add-ons", left-in-the middle ... here under a brick him the "cancer" and hides (s)
Sling cutteryou ... are unconvincing

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Supplements "(where lard) candidate G. filed ... 08.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX.

What kind of lard are we talking about, dear? Well, you, as a child, are not able to read the numbers? What doesn’t beat you.?
There were no lards. THIS IS A FAKE !!!
The candidate himself explained everything, an agent told. BUT
For those in the tank!
from 6.50 the economist will explain everything and explain on the fingers! Locked!

[Boris55]

Quote: Stroporez

There were no lards. THIS IS A FAKE !!!

Who cares how much he hid. He broke the law.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Boris55

Who cares how much he hid. He broke the law.

Enough already to write nonsense !!!!! Additions he submitted 08.01.18/12/XNUMX, and registered him on the XNUMXth!
All the data I posted to Golovan, and videos and links and analysis of the economist, EVERYTHING! Look!
Have you heard the crap and let's post it for a week

[Boris55]

A thief, he is a thief in Africa. To make such an amount, he needs 300 years to collect the club!

[Varyag_0711]

Boris55 Today, 09: 10 ↑
A thief, he is a thief in Africa. To make such an amount, he needs 300 years to collect the club!

I agree, offer Stroporez to earn at least a million on strawberries ...
If you are coming from supposedly communists, be so kind as to clean up your tails behind yourself and make a more or less true story, especially with capital.

[97110]

Quote: Varyag_0711

If you’re coming from supposedly communists,

then stock up with a bag of Faberge eggs, so that like people sent by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Boris55

A thief, he is a thief in Africa. To make such an amount, he needs 300 years to collect the club!

Quote: Varyag_0711

make at least a million on strawberries ...
If you are coming from supposedly communists, be so kind as to clean up your tails behind yourself and make a more or less true story, especially with capital.

Mdyayayaya .... More stubborn zaputintsev difficult to find!
I used to get the impression that you are more adequate, colleagues. You gave a link to the site, even Golovan understood, and tomorrow you’ll be flooded with nightingales with Kiselyov’s ears that he has a three-membered term, so until next August you will have this “bird cherry” post with enviable constancy.

[Boris55]

Quote: Stroporez

Mdyayayaya ....

Below I asked the question of what the proponents of Grudilin expect from their idol - silent! They themselves do not know what they are campaigning for ...

[Varyag_0711]

Stroporez Today, 09:29 ↑
I used to have the impression that you are more adequate, colleagues.

Well, so we had the impression of your adequacy. But apart from populist slogans and “Down with Putin,” we also don’t hear anything from you.
I repeat, no one is Grudinin and there is no way to call him. Under whatever fine slogans he went to power, all this bullshit for those who are glad to be deceived. There is nothing real behind him.
And again, I repeat, from Zyuganov and Grudinin the communists are like candy from shit. Zyuganov so discredited himself that no one in his right mind would vote for him or the Communist Party.
However, we have already discussed this and have not come to a consensus, and most likely we will not.

[Dashout]

Quote: Stroporez

I used to have the impression that you are more adequate, colleagues

Why are you so excited?
From 12 chairs "Blue Thief" - here is a portrait of Grudinin (ashamed, but drags!).

[avva2012]

Quote: Stroporez Mdyayayaya .... More stubborn zaputintsev difficult to find!

Yes, not the majority of Zaputinians. They just remember 90 and are afraid of repetition. They look at the street and see cars, food in the store, Chinese goods with a label, "made in the Russian Federation", a relatively calm criminal situation. All yes, there is a difference in what happened.
Only, that's what is not visible. Industry is not visible in the first place. Education is not visible, secondarily. No medicine in the third. And these lines, in fact, nowhere, a lot has formed. You know, there is such a condition of the patient when, before he dies, he has a purely subjective improvement. Nothing hurts, he goes to the toilet himself, his appetite wakes up, his mood rises. Any experienced doctor in this situation will say, "a few hours are left." So, our beloved homeland, right now is in such a state. And we all can help her. Either there or there.
Yes, Grudinin, not the President of the 80 level, but there really is no choice from the word at all. GDP, the oligarchs will eat in a couple of years. In the fall of this year, the privatization of the remaining state property will take place (read last year’s analytics, they wanted to do it then) and after the sale of the last assets ...., the patient will die. 90s will seem such a wonderful world.

[Captain45]

Quote: Boris55

A thief, he is a thief in Africa. To make such an amount, he needs 300 years to collect the club!

How is Papanov in the film "Watch out for the car" - "I trade in the bush pod grown with these hands!" Grudinin will not say this.

[Sergey Cojocari]

Stroporez, with whom you are trying to argue, that he is golovan, that Boris, from those to whom splash in the eye. all God's dew. And in general, all disputes surrounding candidates on the VO resource, I consider ineffective, because there are no undecided. It would be nice to organize your poll and close on this topic.

[Loess]

with whom are you trying to debate, what is your head, what is Boris, from those to whom splash in the eyes of anyone. all God's dew.

This is not the first time I have seen you move on to insults and rudeness when your arguments run out. However, you are not alone here.

[Sergey Cojocari]

Ah, how gentle we are! But pouring dirty tricks on the opposition presidential candidate is not rudeness? This wind returns your abominations to you in your face, and do not make yourself and you like innocent sufferers, for, for we are judged according to your deeds ...

[Sasha_Sar]

Yes, it is useless to either prove to those who "do not hear." If Grudinin had a "snout in the cannon," he would not have been registered. It was just that the “Kremlin” initially wanted to “tighten up an affair” to increase% of turnout, and when it saw that% of the electorate was ready to vote for Grudinin, it was not permissible that he began to persecute him through “independent” media. Gentlemen "Putinists" calm down, Putin will be elected for another term. The system that he built will not allow him to leave the "galley".

[avva2012]

Quote: Sasha_Sar The system that he built will not allow him to leave the "galley".

The only legitimate way to deal with the system is through elections. I don’t care who and how will vote, but I’ll go and give my vote for Grudinin so that I can respect myself. At least I tried to at least do something.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Sasha_Sar

Yes, it is useless to either prove to those who "do not hear." If Grudinin had a "snout in the cannon," he would not have been registered.

I absolutely agree, the same CEC would have rejected it, even at the stage of receiving documents, and if he had violated the law, how are the Zaputins screaming, they would immediately have canceled the elections!

[Sergey Cojocari]

As you know, galley slaves descend only into the water and only with a stone on their neck. Maybe it’s time for Putin to think about his future and choose between the fate of Khrushchov and Ceausescu.

[Height]

Can you try it for yourself? Then you tell us how it blew bubbles ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Boris55

Who cares how much he hid. He broke the law.

why his CEC will not withdraw from the election ?!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stroporez

The economist will explain everything and explain on the fingers!

I repeat:
1. No "economist" will replace information from the CEC
2. The “CECs” from the candidate are still on the CEC website. This document is not readable in two ways, even though you are turning inside out.

Quote: Stroporez

Locked!

Yes of course

[Varyag_0711]

Roma, welcome colleague!
The matter is not even in the data of the Central Election Commission, not in his money and not even in foreign accounts, although this is not a frail jamb. The thing is a lie. He would say directly:
Yes, I’m not poor, but I didn’t earn money on strawberries, but on frauds with land and shares. And who is not without sin?
It would be much better, the people here still love the truth and forgive a lot if not everything, BUT except for lies and not justice.

And then, what’s the president with him? Well funny, by golly!

[avva2012]

Alexei, you probably saw the third part of the "Last Call"? How do you like it? The medicine has collapsed, completely. Three thousand doctors are not enough in our area. In polyclinics there are either paramedics or attendants for 80 years. Something like the exam, invented for accreditation. Medicines are not medicines. Check, I know.
The country is no longer even the bottom. The next six years, we are not likely to survive. Will we continue to vote for stability?

[freddyk]

Quote: Varyag_0711

And then, what’s the president with him? Well funny, by golly!

They would write only that, why so much extra text.

[Old]

Quote: Varyag_0711

And then, what’s the president with him?

Yes. Here Putin is the most presidential president! So what?
What, for example, is your mom (grandmother's) pension?
And you will agree with me that Russia is the richest country in terms of resources. And where are we in health care, in terms of income?

[Lev Bronsch]

And you old man is a liar !! Russia is very far from the first places in the world in income from the sale of energy resources per capita !! And to remind you of the GDP of the Russian Federation in 2000 and now? Now they are in 7th-8th place in the world, but they were in the 40th !! The population died out at 1,5 million per year ceased. You probably want it again, in the 90s? Only hell to you all over the face! Sometimes the "non-brothers" throw up good ideas - to calculate such ghouls as you, personal data on the network, so that people know who we have a traitor

[Sasha_Sar]

Ah, we have a "guarantor" crystal clear, lives on 8 "lyamov" a year, his friends and ministers for hundreds of millions. The head of the Russian Post writes himself a bonus at the end of the year 100 "lyam". You at that post of Russia when was the last time?

[SOF]

Quote: Golovan Jack

The CEC’s website still contains “Additions” from the candidate. This document is not readable in two ways, even if you turn inside out here

... screenshot, as a control for the ear, lay out, please ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: SOF

screenshot, as a control for the ear, lay out please

I'm sick of already spreading, that's her right

 Posted here

https://topwar.ru/133593-sergey-glazev-kakaya-ide
ologiya-podnimet-rossiyu.html # comment-id-7774734

 "Supplement" from Grudinin (download PDF)

http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/2.grud
inin_addition.pdf

IMHO enough.

[Smog]

Sling cutter

And what, the blogger Quiet Barin is the ultimate truth?

[sapporo1959]

Well, this topic doesn’t seem to close to me anymore. These documentary arguments for the sums do not work for those who love courageous Putin to lift them off their knees. Once on TV they were told something completely different. Like dachshunds!

[a housewife]

that's it! Money itself does not mean anything. The question is whether Comrade will tell. Grudinin about their origin, from the very beginning, so to speak - from scratch? And why suddenly these - Zyuganov’s nominated him? How much did you get for this? I do not believe that it is free !!!!! Let not in cash, but got something! And then, how many billions are indicated there? And how many billions of his land and property? Director of the farm, yeah! It's not about the money. Do not lie!!!! And yet - once I listened to him, Grudinina. Enough for me. It is expressed roundly. I don’t read and do not look at him, neither bad nor good, I do not need, I already have my opinion. And I will vote for Putin. And there would be no Putin, then for Zhirinovsky, the third - Mironov. Each has its own shortcomings. However, the rest is horror. And whom I just don’t know and don’t understand. Come on, can you tell me that I do not understand anything!

[Lev Bronsch]

Well, how do you want? What, no one sympathized with Gorbachev ?? Yes, at first his ratings were higher than current ones of Putin, what ended up recalling? And here half of the stupid idiots drowns for the strawberry king, and the other is just paid provocateurs and enemies - that's an extras. But in fact, both of them dream of drowning the country completely, worse than in the 90s ... That's the dialectic

[1536]

In 1989-1991, there were exactly the same moods. Then, before that, EBN was chosen as the first secretary of the CPSU MGK. And I came from Moscow to Sverdlovsk on a business trip to one of the plants. Sverdlovsk residents at the factory ask, well, how's your BN? I say that a democrat walks to the polyclinic to the district polyclinic on foot. The men smiled, he will still show you what's what. What was next? And then there were screaming people on the squares of Moscow, that all thieves and crooks, but they somehow know how to govern the country and live. Notice that op occurred during business hours. How then all sorts of slogans and screamers began to rule the country do not need to explain. They stopped working completely. And there was also a famous tank with a man calling for something with a piece of paper on the tower. Straight Lenin and the armored car with the theses of April. Maybe it’s enough for everyone here to impose their opinion, accusing everyone and everything of some kind of fraud of facts? People are not rams!

[Maalkavianin]

I agree with you. Unfortunately people have a short memory. Instead of living in relative calmness for another 6 years, with a chance to get out somewhere and earn something, to do something good for themselves, their families, many people once again want adventure.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Malkavianin

Instead of living in relative calmness for another 6 years, with a chance to get out somewhere and earn something

Quote: Malkavianin

Once again, many want adventure

Oh, no matter what happens, oh, if only there was no war, oh, and suddenly a revolution. Perhaps we will live through this, no need to change anything. Anyway, they didn’t live well, there’s nothing to start.

[Maalkavianin]

I want war and revolution - go to the same Donbass. Fight in Syria. In Africa, constant wars and coups. You have where to go.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Malkavianin

I want war and revolution

Those. without Putin, revolution in Russia will immediately come? Logics? No, have not heard...

[Maalkavianin]

Did I say that. It was you who wrote that I supposedly do not want revolution and war, and this is bad.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Malkavianin

Did I say that.

What do you mean by "adventures"?

[Rastas]

Are you oracle That is, you give Russia two ways - or slow decay for 6 years under Putin or the Maidan. Sorry, but your words are a miserable philistinism - to break out, earn, crawl, crawl. With such sentiments, Russia would no longer be there. Grudinin at least a chance to do without shocks in the future just.

[Maalkavianin]

Yes, here I am not the oracle, but you. Yes, you know about the "paths" that I "give" to Russia. And why did you decide that Grudinin will be able to stop the decay? The siloviki are building behind him, on which he can rely? Or will the whole country rush in a single rush to build a bright future, under its wise leadership? Nonsense all this.

[woron333444]

Grudinin is Poroshenko. Does Russia need this?

[Rastas]

If Grudinin is the Maidan, then how was he allowed for the election? We have a strong state with the most influential president in the world, and maydanschik is admitted to the elections. You know that under Grudinin the Maidan will be a war, but the authorities are not in the know. You already hint up there. And to make things worse, ask the elixir of immortality for Putin to invent and generally cancel the elections.

[Victor Demchenko]

exactly! and a lot of these, and another argument:
he (Grudinin) is not from the system, and therefore he will not be able to do anything! to my question and at the state farm could? answer -Russia is not a collective farm, then a different mind is needed! again the answer: what is the difference? answer: officials will not give ... finish, no words! and what is our official? untouchables ?! in my opinion, if God forbid Grudinin comes to power, then remember my words: they’ll drive such a bastard with rags, with a bang and with a howl, but like 200 or a little more, we’ll drive them — I’m sure the rest will be SUV supporters that Vovan never dreamed of!

[Gardamir]

another 6 years to live in relative calm

You stand like that in a quagmire, and to what calmly, it is addictive. It will become a little more and quite calmly, only bubbles on the surface. Of course, you can jerk, grab that branch, grab it, but it’s scary, no matter what happens.

[Rastas]

Then, the cemetery is generally calm.

[dSK]

Hello Leonid! Folklore:
"The cat gave birth to kittens - Putin is to blame!
The cat left the kittens - Putin is to blame! "

[Freeman]

Quote: Malkavianin

I agree with you. Unfortunately people have a short memory. Instead of living in relative calmness for another 6 years, with a chance to get out somewhere and earn something, to do something good for themselves, their families, many people once again want adventure.

Log in. Here you have a new nickname and avatar

[Maalkavianin]

Good story, but not about me.

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: Malkavianin

Instead of living in relative calm for another 6 years,

and who offers a revolution then?

[Maalkavianin]

I did not start talking about the revolution. So no question for me.

[Height]

Girl, redistribution of property, it is always a revolution. Who will give so easily? Easier to kill.

[sapporo1959]

And what kind of country, by the way, then we created under the leadership of our permanent leader if a simple change of steering should immediately cause revolutionary upheavals? What kind of stability is such that overnight everything can suddenly collapse and leave along with chances and finances ... ???

[Height]

Probably I wanted to create stability from Belarus from us?

[Old]

Quote: Malkavianin

another 6 years to live in relative calm

No one can promise you peace and stability.
On the contrary, there is reason to believe that after the election there will be another F ...

[White53]

At least one real candidate-hard worker and not a politician-pi .... ol!

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: White53

At least one real candidateslogger...

Baryga... and liar, or with memory is bad (I hastily closed accounts before registration, og).

[Stas157]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Baryga... and liar, or with memory is bad (I hastily closed accounts before registration, og).

Do not choke on saliva, Golovan! Those real hucksters who are in power, and in power rubs, Grudinin is not suitable for soles! It is to those Golovan to whom you revere.
What Grudinin huckster, if he produces a product? You, in your bitterness, intentionally replace concepts. Small and medium business in our country is not easy. Try it yourself!
All the accusations that your government makes to Grudinin, first of all, belong to her!

[Boris55]

Quote: Stas157

All the accusations that your government makes to Grudinin, first of all, belong to her!

So is it worth changing the soap?

[Victor Demchenko]

worth it! firstly, Putin, the great and terrible okromya promises did NOTHING. examples at least oh eat! and the first only five offhand:
cancellation of transport tax
curbing tariff increases
tax restriction (Plato and others)
decline in real incomes of the population and purchasing power
a sharp increase in fuel prices amid falling oil prices ....
enough and still throw info for thought?

[B.T.V.]

Quote: Viktor Demchenko

worth it! firstly, Putin, the great and terrible okromya promises did NOTHING.

Do you have any guarantees that, having come to power, Grudinin will fulfill his (at least pre-election) promises ?! A “popular” candidate treats a family abroad, the right word, charming.

[avva2012]

People’s "candidate treats a family abroad, the right word, charming.
Ah, you consider him an idiot? If a person has money, then it is better to be treated there, otherwise we have a continuous lottery. Moreover, he talked about the fact that relatives were seriously ill with something. He didn’t bring the country to such a level.

[B.T.V.]

Quote: avva2012

Ah, you consider him an idiot?

No, I consider him NOT a popular candidate. Regarding the storage of his money abroad, he also spoke out rather non-popularly.

[avva2012]

In a capitalist country there can be no "popular" candidates. Do not put a shadow on the fence using similar terms. Now we are talking about whether the country will remain a raw materials appendage or industry will begin to develop, and everything else is “from the evil one”.

[B.T.V.]

Quote: avva2012

Do not put a shadow on the fence using similar terms

Regarding the "nationality" of the candidate "- the claim is not addressed, read the comments of those who call to vote for Grudinin.
Why confidence that he will do exactly what you are writing about (from his words) ?!

[avva2012]

The point is not in him, and not even in the personalities that go with him on the team, but in those who stand behind them. If, I do not confuse, then K. Marx wrote that under capitalism, there are two main clans, these are "financial capital" and "industrial". So, in my opinion, it would be better if “industrialists” come, because liberals / financiers over the past 17 years have ruined everything that is possible. We live, we are on income from pipes and other raw materials. You understand that it cannot go on for so long.
Hence the confidence that there will be GDP and Medvedev, the liberals will redevelop everything else, privatizing it for themselves and selling it. Grudinin will come and co., Industry will develop. And how, I think, people are scientists, they know.

[Stas157]

Quote: Boris55

So is it worth changing the soap?

That is, with that part of the assertion that our current government is molesters and thieves, do you agree? Already progress!
It remains only to convince you that Grudinin is the owner of billions (and indeed where they come from, he is not Putin’s friend, and he doesn’t deal with raw materials!), All the more since there is already a refutation. Watch all the video that our colleague Stroporez provided us with, and any sober person will have no doubt - Grudinin is an honest person who is simply trying to slander. Why, you already know everything!

[Sergey Cojocari]

Well, what Putin sewed? He is a holey bag from which 20 years of lost time and opportunity are pouring.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Stas157

Do not choke on saliva

Stas, this is for you
"Fall in love" - this FIVE
You already have a thought ahead of your nails, a campaign

[Stas157]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Stas, this was for you wassat
“Get hooked” is FIVE laughing
You already have a thought ahead of your nails, a campaign

What I like about you is that you notice my mistakes!)) I repent, hurried, was not attentive. This is my scourge, I can’t fix it ... but with your help, I hope I overcome it.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Golovan Jack

You already have a thought ahead of your nails, a campaign

Add: you have chronic

[Korax71]

When there is nothing to say in the case, why cling to spelling. Often people write on the phone and not everyone has a pianist's fingers. But if you are so happy for the Russian language, then open a school and get the younger generation. I would even send my goddaughter to such a school

[Dashout]

Quote: Stas157

Do not choke on saliva, Golovan!

What are you excited about?
Already wrote above: in my opinion Grudinin is a blue thief from 12 chairs.
no more, no less..

[novel66]

bother straight all

[free]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: White53

At least one real candidateslogger...

Baryga... and liar, or with memory is bad (I hastily closed accounts before registration, og).

Trying weakly, weakly!

[White53]

You know, I even oppose you with disgust!

[g1washntwn]

I have a strong sense of deja vu about this character. The only difference from the ё-mobile ex-entrepreneur is that he is from the Communists. The main problem with all alternatives to GDP is absolute slurring and mumbling about how are they going to realize their loud slogans? All promises to give much, and how to give a favor, then all the popular promises are stolen from the bushes stolen, but not simple, but exclusively foreign.

[zyzx]

Wonderful, Putin has 6 years left, then what?

[Greenwood]

And then Putin will get out of nowhere a thread of an unknown dude left to anyone (just like himself Sobchak and Yeltsin at one time) and loudly declare to the whole country: “here he is my successor !!!”. Six months before the election I’ll be energetically promoting this guy in all the media, they’ll arrange 100500 actions like “flying on a fighter with Siberian Cranes and diving after amphora on Lada Kalina to Lake Baikal”. And all the "patriots" of Russia will argue that there is no alternative to this dude and that he is the only hope of the Russians. And all sorts of Grudinins, Boldyrevs, etc. etc. - this is all the projects of the State Department, the CIA, Mossad and Mi-6, who dream of ruining Russia.

[zyzx]

Yes you are right.

[parma]

Yes, they all mumble ... Excuse me, but the GDP said something concrete, what and how it will do? Apparently I missed ... For while I heard only "I will do everything better than now" ... And then the question is, is all this and do it like that?
And don’t shout it will be like in the 99s or like the lovers of bacon ... We have a too short period of “democracy” and so on, well, we don’t have any idea who is worse, who is better (and by the way cause)

[Sergey Cojocari]

Let it fly and dive, if only not for the demolition of houses and the sacramental, “we will water them in the toilet,” and then the nation-wide adoration, “Savior!”

[free]

Quote: zyzx

Wonderful, Putin has 6 years left, then what?

I hope he has 2 months left.

[SOF]

Quote: free

I hope he has 2 months left.

... and then the "bright future" will begin, right on the next day kaaaak will begin.
Weather vane, only, indicating the direction to put do not forget ...

[free]

Quote: SOF

Quote: free

I hope he has 2 months left.

... and then the "bright future" will begin, right on the next day kaaaak will begin.
Weather vane, only, indicating the direction to put do not forget ...

For people like you, the pointer is ready!

[SOF]

Quote: free

For people like you, the pointer is ready!

Like this ???
... enough, once already went to the result of the 90s, from the magnanimous Susanins of his followers.
... do you have anything new?

[free]

Quote: SOF

Quote: free

For people like you, the pointer is ready!

Like this ???
... enough, once already went to the result of the 90s, from the magnanimous Susanins of his followers.
... do you have anything new?

In the 90s you were just thanks to those who are now in power, it was they who destroyed the Union, and now they plunder Russia.

[cedar]

Quote: free

Quote: zyzx

Wonderful, Putin has 6 years left, then what?

I hope he has 2 months left.

It has already been clearly said: - "DO NOT WAIT"

[Rastas]

Putin has no program, only I promise to promise, and about the specifics he says we will discuss, we will work out. But it suits you in Putin, and immediately attacked Grudinin. He already said 20 theses are quite correct. And why more specifically? Competitors can take advantage and something to intercept if they notice that the voters like the program.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Rastas

He already said 20 theses are quite correct.

By the way, regarding 20 of these theses, Boldyrev stated that this is the most concise and concise version of the Grudinin program. For each of these theses there is a much more detailed description of further plans and actions, which can be read on the Communist Party website.

[cedar]

Hey on the barge, a war has been waged against Russia for three years. The Commander-in-Chief has to be engaged in garbage, self-nominated, PR, run for, and this instead of building you, us ...
Serve the program ... We will discuss, ponder, scratch the turnips and that, not, not that .... there, he has strawberries sweeter ...

[SOF]

Quote: cedar

Hey on the barge, a war has been waged against Russia for three years.

... truth !!!
So that it would be with us, if in the middle of the Great Patriotic War, Stalin came to change someone’s "bright" head of thought ???
Oh, allies were happy ......

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Why did you remember Stalin? After all, the people did everything for the liberals, while Stalin stood nearby. This is when frankly did not interfere. So the example is clearly unsuccessful.

[Gardamir]

three years against Russia, a war has been waged.

With whom at least you are at war. Just do not about America, these are Putin’s partners. He transfers money to them for the war with Russia.

[SOF]

Quote: Gardamir

He transfers money to them for the war with Russia.

... but weak evidence, signed personally by the Supreme? Just don’t, in your vocabulary, blame the fish for the head, otherwise you can recall the genocide of the proletariat near Tambov and recall the subsequent liquidation of Marshal Tukhachevsky, who, by the way, was involved in genocide, and then all this, and a big bunch of everything else, then "president" and hang .........
... or then it was possible Potamuuuushta possible ???
No need to be like a sharpie with all the marked cards, which never loses, by default, because he has such a job ....

[Gardamir]

weak evidence

That is, he forbids Nabiullina, but she still lists such a hearing?

[SOF]

Quote: Gardamir

That is, he forbids Nabiullina, but she still lists such a hearing

.... I warned ...
Did Tukhachevsky himself invent everything or execute an order? And Tukhachevsky, then, by order or on his own initiative? And Yagoda, and Yezhov, and Beria ... themselves or an order? And them, then? Or lied to the lamb of God? But in Novocherkassk, already far after the war, was the order carried out or was there a gag? We continue ???
Stupid conversation ... don't you think?
Or, nevertheless, all the milestones listed by me in our history were approved and signed personally by the "presidents"?

[Gardamir]

We continue ???

You still remember about Kulikovo field. It's about today's election

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: SOF

Stupid conversation ... don't you think?

even how to compare the past history of one country with the real state of another

[SOF]

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

even how to compare the past history of one country with the real state of another

... for your information, there is no past history. She is always there and it’s very good to know her, so as not to step on the rake that was already applied to her forehead.
... no, of course, it is possible in the image and likeness of neighbors. And what, cool after all, Maidan after Maidan. Romance. And, most importantly, the "partners" overseas are now probably storing popcorn, but they consider the budget to be set on the wrong ones. But all the same, they will be in the black if, when, we begin to bleed each other. Right?

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: SOF

past history does not happen. She is always there and it’s very good to know her,

You tell this to the adept of Solzhenitsin-Putin, it is he who claims that Stalin shot the Poles in Katyn

Quote: SOF

No, of course, it is possible in the image of the neighbors. And what, cool after all, Maidan after Maidan. Romance.

is this your desire

[SOF]

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

You tell this to the adept of Solzhenitsin-Putin, it is he who claims that Stalin shot the Poles in Katyn

... your logic is strange: here I don’t want to remember the story, but here I want ...

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

is this your desire

... no, judging by the aggressiveness with which, instead of advertising Grudinin, you pour mud at every corner of Putin, this is your desire.
... and, for a snack: if in all troubles, right down to the cat that left the kittens, you know who is to blame, then ...
... if you are singing one song in unison with Western "partners", then that means ......
No offense, I just used your associative series ....

[your1970]

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

You tell this to the adept of Solzhenitsin-Putin, it is he who claims that Stalin shot the Poles in Katyn

for the sake of justice, to argue that "Stalin shot the Poles in Katyn" started General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU M.S. Gorbachev in 1990 city

[g1washntwn]

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

is this your desire

This is called sarcasm, google value at your leisure. And yes, more about a sense of humor at the same time. Although, I agree with the author of the post, the neighbor historically had a situation: "He stole, drank, Maidan. Stole, drank, Maidan." Precisely that "romance!" and they don’t want to change it under any sauce.

[free]

Quote: SOF

Quote: Gardamir

He transfers money to them for the war with Russia.

... but weak evidence, signed personally by the Supreme? Just don’t, in your vocabulary, blame the fish for the head, otherwise you can recall the genocide of the proletariat near Tambov and recall the subsequent liquidation of Marshal Tukhachevsky, who, by the way, was involved in genocide, and then all this, and a big bunch of everything else, then "president" and hang .........
... or then it was possible Potamuuuushta possible ???
No need to be like a sharpie with all the marked cards, which never loses, by default, because he has such a job ....

Look out the window, enough !?

[SOF]

Quote: free

Look out the window, enough !?

looked ...
What was to see? What is all bad? It’s not true, not really ice, but it’s quite sane, considering that the oil is no longer 150, but about 50 dangles, that they stick shafts into our wheels from all sides, they say that it’s for Crimea. Crimea, I hope to give, in your opinion, is not necessary? Considering that this peninsula, and all urkaine as a whole, have a dislike for Western "partners" about the same as a horse for an internal combustion engine, and they don’t like the fact that we stopped standing in front of them in a certain pose. Given the fact that it’s very difficult to bend your line, because the “partners” still think that we can be returned to the position, but we, nevertheless, cannot afford stupid antics with shoes in the UN Security Council, if we don’t want of course , in perspective, give the planet to rats and cockroaches.
He looked again ... Is everything all right? NO The same is not true ... Thieves, crooks, bribe takers and other scum divorced - horror ... Hercules, with his Augean stables, and that could not cope .... at once. Everything is like in the period from 1917 to 22, do not you? Or from 1941 to 47 (approximately). Nothing suggestive?
And, most importantly, the fatter the rogue, the deeper he tries to get into United Russia :) And it turns out ... and from there - clap - he became an official, with all his connections, structures and schemes ... And from there try it skovryni.
A lot of bad, but good is not enough.
Now remember the shelves in stores from the mid-80s to the beginning of the 90s, the New Year’s assault on Grozny, the state of the industry at that time, the salary level, default of 1998, vouchers, MMM, cigarette butts in the three-liter cans sold on the market .... .......... In general, no difference ??? No? Could it be worse?
... then we live in different countries.

[free]

Quote: SOF

Quote: free

Look out the window, enough !?

looked ...
What was to see? What is all bad? It’s not true, not really ice, but it’s quite sane, considering that the oil is no longer 150, but about 50 dangles, that they stick shafts into our wheels from all sides, they say that it’s for Crimea. Crimea, I hope to give, in your opinion, is not necessary? Considering that this peninsula, and all urkaine as a whole, have a dislike for Western "partners" about the same as a horse for an internal combustion engine, and they don’t like the fact that we stopped standing in front of them in a certain pose. Given the fact that it’s very difficult to bend your line, because the “partners” still think that we can be returned to the position, but we, nevertheless, cannot afford stupid antics with shoes in the UN Security Council, if we don’t want of course , in perspective, give the planet to rats and cockroaches.
He looked again ... Is everything all right? NO The same is not true ... Thieves, crooks, bribe takers and other scum divorced - horror ... Hercules, with his Augean stables, and that could not cope .... at once. Everything is like in the period from 1917 to 22, do not you? Or from 1941 to 47 (approximately). Nothing suggestive?
And, most importantly, the fatter the rogue, the deeper he tries to get into United Russia :) And it turns out ... and from there - clap - he became an official, with all his connections, structures and schemes ... And from there try it skovryni.
A lot of bad, but good is not enough.
Now remember the shelves in stores from the mid-80s to the beginning of the 90s, the New Year’s assault on Grozny, the state of the industry at that time, the salary level, default of 1998, vouchers, MMM, cigarette butts in the three-liter cans sold on the market .... .......... In general, no difference ??? No? Could it be worse?
... then we live in different countries.

Those crooks about whom you say all your good will be destroyed and they will not blink an eye, and worst of all, the collapse course is still not replaced.

[SOF]

Quote: free

Those crooks about whom you speak all your good will destroy and will not blink an eye.

I agree with this 100%, but this rot perfectly lives on any system. On the fly, they will transform into communists when necessary, and the glories of socialism will be no less than yours. Remember Central Asia during the Union .... there the whole life of the state lived in the state, but as a whole throughout the USSR how many party bosses were there? Do you remember the Birch shop? And the special rations, the so-called, where did those who were "more equal" among equals get food? The only difference is that in the past they only talked about this in a whisper in the kitchen, but now anywhere, anytime, and as much as you like.
... and about the collapse ...
if you sweep away all the husks, called sanctions, and the worldwide pressure that fell upon us after 2014, then in my opinion the glass is more likely than empty, and the patient is more likely alive than dead ...
And imagining the sensations of an organism, which gradually, with difficulty, gets out of a coma, I am more than sure that it is impossible to shake and wake it — it is dangerous for life.
It needs evolution ... and only evolution.

[free]

I for the Stalin Union then took this scum for the gills quickly, and then there were no mass birch trees and special rations for the elite, but for scientists it was right because it was the scientists who were the real elite, we had to overcome the gap from the capstran over 10 years and make only scientists could do it, they did. And what did the current government do? ditch the Union (it was they who did it) and is destroying Russia now.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

You have evolutionists; there is no understanding of what a historical process is. But there is an extreme concern for their current well-being. Then, when you have to tear the state organism through blood, sweat and tears through ten times the great sacrifice to reform the state, you will be guilty of Stalin, Peter 1, Ivan by the name of Grozny, anyone but you. A revolution itself is inevitable, and the reactionary forces to which you belong will sooner or later be thrown into the dustbin of history. And then do not whine that bad people have treated you badly. You deserve it.

[g1washntwn]

Do you have a clear vision of the situation? No matter how you look, a revolutionary? What is revolution is the demolition of the old system and the construction of a new one. And will "well-wishers" give you after demolition to build everything anew and better than it was? Recall the fundamental thesis of American success? America should be the first (and in what way their conscience does not care).
I can only say that the experience of the USSR in a more or less successful attempt at construction, but the process stalled and the party elite all successes were delayed .. and then frankly merged in attempts to integrate with the West. Therefore, I will tell you a revolution one proverb - rush is needed only when catching fleas, because building statehood is not the same, and not even growing strawberries in separate greenhouse conditions.

[Masya masya]

Agitation flooded!

the goods themselves were delivered, they themselves advertised, weighed, packaged and paid.

It remains only to eat ... for me it is so indigestible ...

[novel66]

you never know what is tasteless - but useful! just kidding!

[Masya masya]

Quote: novel xnumx

but useful!

Go on, but eat?

[novel66]

and then on the pope or in the corner

[Tatar 174]

Businessmen are flexible people, otherwise you won’t last long in business, and you must be firm in managing the country and always keep your line in everything, but! But without changing the strategy, it is necessary to react flexibly and even very flexibly and quickly to events in the country for one purpose only - to improve the lives of people living in this country, which is now hardly visible, only talking or small things in this direction. Thieves do not sit where they should sit, but continue to sit in warm and secluded places and continue to steal legally, it’s convenient for them ... This is not what is needed. Can a Communist candidate do this if he suddenly becomes president? Will he break the whole country and the stability that most like? Will the new year 1917 succeed in a country with a subsequent civil war? Many questions...

[Evgeniy667b]

I agree with you that the president should be firm and most importantly serve his people, the interests of his country, and not bend under the interests of other states and specific people, not engage in PR and shows, as we see, especially the last 5 years!

[Rastas]

The last 5 years just PR.

[Victor Demchenko]

until you try how do you know?
but about
Will the new year 1917 succeed in a country with a subsequent civil war?
I can say one thing: it’s rather the other way around, simply because the whole gang that is now in power will have these last 6 years, and therefore they will not be embarrassed to rob, as they will have nothing to lose! and the answer can be quite unpredictable, or .... vice versa?
I don’t know, maybe it’s a fake, but the rumor goes that those in power want to extend Plato to passenger cars, that is, we’ll blow another transport tax to us .... and looking at the actions of our Ministry of Economic Development, for some reason lines of genius come to my mind, I’m not afraid of the word of the writer Alexei Tolstoy in his novel Peter the Great, it’s a scene of finding money for a Livonian campaign, when the boyars were sentenced to another tax!

[your1970]

"Plato" .... you are aware, I hope, that approximately 2/3 of drivers and / or truck owners do not pay any taxes AT ALL .. that almost all cargo transportation in the country is illegal ... that 3/4 of passenger traffic - illegal ..
"Plato" is an attempt to at least tidy up the lawlessness of motorists ..

[Celt]

Do you know in general that we compared the United States with the price of fuel, and most of the salaries are not state-owned .... and even taxes are not weak for Russia, and Plato ... of course the mess of transport workers ... ridiculous)))

[your1970]

Quote: Celt

Do you know in general that we compared the United States with the price of fuel, and most of the salaries are not state-owned .... and even taxes are not weak for Russia, and Plato ... of course the mess of transport workers ... ridiculous)))

-And you just calculate how much it costs to transport 1 ton of cargo, be very surprised ...
we are taken by watermelons in the Volgograd region for 1 ruble per kilo (150 km) and sold for 15 rub per kg. Watermelons are good, they disperse quickly, they take apart a car in a week. 10 tons = 150, of which 000 liters of diesel fuel per 40 km , 100 * 40 = 3 * 120 rubles per liter = 40.
Total 150 000-4800 (5000 for an even account) -10 000 (the cost of buying watermelons) - 5 000 (loading (roughly) = 130 000 rubles. Let 30 000 go to depreciation, in real life it is much less (there is actually no mileage) .
On hand 100 per week...
He pays taxes? Yeah, right now ..
It's simple a small example of a fat motorists.
An example of a large brew is minibuses traveling between cities.
9 routes bring the owner to DAY 800 000 rub. PROFIT.
He pays taxes ?? Yeah, right now ...

cry for the heavy fate of trucking

[Celt]

Watermelons are seasonal goods, and hucksters who rent wagons profit, truck owners have a percentage rather than a big gain ... from Volgograd and Astrakhan, watermelons need to be sent by barges, it is more profitable))

[your1970]

until 2014 the owner of KAMAZ could afford to buy Nissan Qashqai for 1 season without bothering much ..... without loans or anything else

we carry for example Gazelles metal rolling from Moscow / St. Petersburg.4 tons are transported at a time , on the road the rear axles burst quite often (it has already become a hot commodity in spare parts stores along the tracks). Only after us the three bridges burst near us. Nevertheless, despite the purchase of a new bridge, it remains profitable for them.
Z.Y. The fact that they cut the road with wheels that are designed for pressure 2 times less is a fact.

[parusnik]

This whole fuss with Grudinin .. Reminds me of the following: Mark Twain - "How I ran for governor" .... A few months ago, I was nominated as an independent candidate for governor of the great state of New York. The two main parties nominated Mr. John T. Smith and Mr. Blank J. Blanck, but I realized that I have an important advantage over these gentlemen, namely, a spotless reputation. One had only to look through the newspapers to make sure that if they were ever decent people, then these times have long passed ..... Then there was a message that I poisoned my uncle in order to take possession of his property. The newspaper persistently demanded an autopsy. I was afraid that I was about to lose my mind. But this is not enough: I was accused of being the trustee of a shelter for foundlings, I attached, with the patronage of my mindless toothless relatives, to the post of chewing food for pets. My head went round. Finally, the shameless persecution that hostile parties subjected me to the highest point: according to someone’s instigation during the election meeting, nine babies of all skin colors and in a variety of rags climbed onto the podium and, clinging to my legs, began to shout: "Dad!" . I could not stand it. I lowered the flag and surrendered. I could not run for the position of governor of New York. I wrote that I was withdrawing my candidacy, and in a fit of bitterness I signed: "With perfect respect, yours, once an honest man, and now: the Vile Oathbreaker, Montansky Thief, the Defiler Tombs, Blue Devils, Dirty Dodger and the Sneaky Blackmailer Mark Twain "... The show must go on ...

[zyzx]

When Grudinin was nominated, I took it absolutely neutral ...., but what started in the morning, all the famous patriotic bloggers, broke the chain, I did not see such vulgarity about anyone. Then I read the articles, there they accuse the person that he is rich, the owner, and what kind of communist he is. I did not understand this at all, we have a kind of capitalist country and blame, while the person in the presence of private property, excuse me! And excuse me if the poor person wants to become president. The first one simply will not let him in, and the second media will yell that he went to the presidency for the rogue, he could not even make money for himself! Then went photos of Zyuganov’s meeting with Teft, supposedly America approved, Grudinin himself, with Udaltsov. Well? I can always post Putin presenting the award to Alekseeva, only a problem, this photo makes me sick. And about Chubais and Grefs, I am generally silent. From such a persecution of a person, I honestly got a little dumb.
On foreign policy to Putin, there are no questions, but on the economy .... the next minister of us makes Norway ...

[Earnest]

I respect Putin very much, I consider him the greatest surviving politician in the world, but I will vote for Grudinin. Because since 2011 of the year I’ve only watched how the operating industrial enterprises of my friends, contractors and competitors are slowly weakening, sliding from production activities to a primitive cash-out controlled by local princes from state corporations to theft on postscript to state contracts, return of VAT from exports through their own offshore desks ... Because the site "Made with Us" I look and cry from the ratio of units of solemnly opened new enterprises to hundreds of ruined and closed. Because the wife, working in the regional Rosstat, paints in paints the methods of bending statistics in the direction necessary to the authorities. There are many others “because”, but the most important of them is that the GDP has built the current system of pumping cents from the population’s pocket into dollars on offshore accounts of close ones.

[Victor Demchenko]

the site does not allow more than one +
and so, from me and my fellow thinkers +++++++++++++++++++ and so 100500 times

[Sergey Cojocari]

Then WHAT do you respect Putin for? If even a quarter of what you wrote is true, then in terms of the totality of crimes he shines "a life-long echich with nails."

[Loess]

The fact that all the media that have published these results, in the comments (who is allowed) dozens screaming "And we are for Grudinina," is a trifle.

If the "Zagrudinians" scream louder, this does not mean that there are more of them.

[Sergey Cojocari]

So the opposite is true - if zaputintsy ....

[Boris55]

Supporters of Grudilin. What do you expect from him?
Personally, I expect Putin to get rid of the dollar and work is already underway in this direction. "China, India and Russia have led the Asian Bank." What is this talking about? The fact that the dominance of the dollar comes to an end and the ruble will become one of the world currencies.
Why do I believe that he will achieve this? Yes, because throughout his reign he paved the way for this. I will not repeat myself.
I am waiting for an answer what does anyone expect from Grudilin, how is he going to achieve this? So what kind of noo shi noodles does he hang up with his supporters?

[Greenwood]

Quote: Boris55

The fact that the dominance of the dollar comes to an end and the ruble will become one of the world currencies.

Funny, honestly ... You still remember about the imminent collapse of the United States.

Quote: Boris55

Yes, because throughout his reign he paved the way for this.

18 years preparing the ground?

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Greenwood

Funny, honestly ..

"The one who laughs last laughs well!"

[mcqway]

Exactly. Preparing and preparing the ground. And besides that, it rakes the shit of the 90s.
The man (Putin) is just working hard. Well, from the sofa you can poke about gasoline)))
And why most of all whine and advocate for pensions for those who have a car, apartment, cottages + rest not less than a couple of hundred thousand at a time?

[Zefr]

While Putin has been raking shit for 17 years, we remember that 16 years after the war, man flew into space.

[Victor Demchenko]

and don't forget about 6 TRILLION rubles distilled by Mrs. Nabeullina, oh sorry for the typo, Nabiullina, to the accounts of the Fed

[Gardamir]

Putin

These are Shuvalov, Timchenko, Nabiullina, Chubais, of course Dvorkovich with Medvedev. And also happy Serdyukov with Vasilyeva. And where is the rejection of the dollar?
And in general it’s uncultural to distort the name of the candidate, just because you do not like him.

[BABAY22]

You probably just got off the ramp. We have not been to Russia for a long time.
Here, EVERYONE knows the strengths and weaknesses of GDP. Know what a "great economist" he is. And he can make the ruble a world currency in only one single way - to hoist our tricolor over the Capitol. And this is not a joke.

[Boris55]

Tpruuu! Stop, Dawn! People, what did I ask you about? What are you talking about?
And then after all, I may get the impression that you yourself do not understand why Grudilin is going to the presidency.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Boris55

why is Grudilin going to the presidency.

I do not understand, please explain.

[Boris55]

Quote: Greenwood

I do not understand, please explain.

For what.? I have been expressing my point of view on this issue for more than one day. In short, to prevent Putin from nationalizing Russia.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Boris55

In short, to prevent Putin from nationalizing Russia.

You must have been mistaken: "Do not let Putin privatize Russia." By the way, how is the program of Putin and his government on privatization going on successfully?

[Gardamir]

nationalize

Sorry, I didn’t recognize Evgeny Vaganovich in make-up, I haven’t laughed like that for a long time. Well, you don’t have to keep all fools. Putin continues to privatize. One gift to Qatar is worth it.

[Victor Demchenko]

what time! and who didn’t let him do just that for 17 years?

[mcqway]

Babai. When the bandits covered your neighbor and are already bursting at your door - will you wash the dishes in the kitchen? This is about GDP and the economy.
And then - they completely forgot who in 2004 returned resources to the country?
Who paid all the debts that they gained in the "glorious" liberal 90s?
Huh?

[BABAY22]

mcqway. What am I telling you?
GDP is not a huckster. GDP is a warrior.

[Greenwood]

And the dismissal from the KGB in difficult times - an act worthy of a warrior?

[BABAY22]

Do you think that everything is so primitive? What was he supposed to oversee and supervise Sobchak in the major epaulettes of the Leningrad City Council (and Sobchak then methylated as president of the USSR)? And for shoulder straps at that time in Leningrad one could easily get in the face in the street.
Conclusion. There are no former KGB officers, especially as the President of Russia. And exceptions to this rule, suddenly leave this world.

[Greenwood]

Quote: BABAY22

What was he supposed to oversee in the major epaulettes of the Leningrad City Council and Sobchak to oversee (and Sobchak then methylated to the presidency of the USSR)? And for shoulder straps at that time in Leningrad one could easily get in the face in the street.

But this is the very chameleonism and conjuncturism that Grudinin is accused of. Those. your favorite guarantor, depending on the political and economic situation in the country, skillfully repaints from a communist to a capitalist, from a KGB officer to a porter of a portfolio, from a liberal Yeltsinist to a "patriot-statesman." Well what can I say, my applause.

[100502]

You hang noodles

[Boris55]

Quote: 100502

You hang noodles

The amazing ability of some individuals not to answer the question!

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: Boris55

So what kind of noo shi noodles does he hang up with his supporters?

[Boris55]

Did I ask you something? What, say nothing? Who is the thread, if only not for Putin? How do your wishes coincide with the wishes of the State Department ... or maybe you get a salary there too? Then there are no questions for you.

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: Boris55

maybe you get salary there too? Then there are no questions for you.

You, Sharikov, are talking nonsense and what is most outrageous is that you say it categorically and confidently.
in your criticizing Putin all on the salary of the State Department here probably half of these))) probably the government headed by the prime minister is entirely patriots because they do not criticize, although patriotism is only for the poor and state employees, who are richer in those passports of Malta and offshore
strange thing is, the more investments in the US economy, the increase in oligarchs, officials, the course for further privatization, the outflow of capital, the discontent of the poor, the more strongly the Department of State scolds Putin, creating the illusion of the one and only, but what happens to him (God forbid) - what shall we do? many rely on the army and the military-industrial complex, forgetting that when a political course changes, it very quickly degrades as it was in the USSR, and then the present patriots and ideological were more and less worthy of the current

[Boris55]

Quote: Tatanka Yotanka

in your criticizing Putin all on the salary of the State Department

My question was not about Putin. I asked what, who, what expects from Grudilin. And in response - silence ... The main thing is that it is against and no matter what ...

[Old]

You did not understand?
just no one wants to delve into the discussion with you. Grudinin has a 20 Steps program. people hope for its fulfillment ... This is short.

[AleBors]

Respecting the opinion of the author, I note that the fuss for the election campaign has begun. I’ll just watch with interest. What other streams of slops will pour out from different "horns" ...

[Vladimir K]

Something will be, something will be.

[Greenwood]

Navalny will become president! And the Prime Minister Sobchak.

[Lnglr]

For Grudinin!
Communist Party, PDS NPSR, Left Front - Go!
Authors of comments like "What will Grudinin give you?" Apparently, they do not quite understand that Grudinin is not going alone, but as part of a team.

[Boris55]

Quote: Lnglr

Apparently, they do not quite understand that Grudinin is not going alone, but as part of a team.

And what does the team want?

[zoolu350]

Well, I hope the team wants the individuals of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation to hang together on a rack and with a sense, with sense and arrangement, talk about the size and numbers of their offshore accounts and their desire to transfer this money to Sberbank, which by then will not be under the control of the Fed owners. So that the thieves in power together went to the construction of the monorail Yakutsk - Magadan and uranium mines. So that our team does not appear in robes and under white rags, so that the bowels, forests and land belong to the people, and not to a bunch of villains.

[Boris55]

Quote: zoolu350

Well, I hope the team wants the individuals of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation to hang together on their hind legs and with feeling, with good sense and arrangement

Do you think that he himself, and his companions, will drive on the rack?

[zoolu350]

Well, if the individuals of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation are comrades for him, then not after the elections, but after the social explosion, he will hang on the rack with them and talk in detail about their friendship.

[Captain45]

Quote: Lnglr

For Grudinin!
Communist Party, PDS NPSR, Left Front - Go!

Excuse me, but honestly, I personally, as a voter, this combination of PDS NPRS does not appeal to me, because by association with Lavrov’s famous expression “DBL BLT”, PDS reminds me of the abbreviation for homosexuals, and with pederasts I have no way.

[Lnglr]

This is very entertaining))) It turns out that you, as a user of the VO resource (which is positioned as patriotically oriented), do not know the abbreviations PDS NPSR? Yes, and compare this abbreviation with homosexuals?
Apparently, your political horizons are seriously limited by some kind of framework.
Well .... Very sad.

[Captain45]

Quote: Lnglr

Well .... Very sad.

The sad thing is that you do not carefully read the comments. Re-read again, maybe you will understand.
PDS - PederaSt. Does this interpretation of the abbreviation suit? Does the word "abbreviation" need to be clarified?

[free]

Ah ha ha, the hods shook at the cattle, you bastards! Everyone to the polls! Hit the elections for the enemy!

[thinker]

But on the Internet, people say

And it’s suitable for the photo

[Boris55]

Quote: thinker

"Russian! Before you see Russia in strawberries, look at Ukraine in chocolate!"

Class!
Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities, but do not destroy the state for the sake of a dream. You have to work hard for a dream every day, and not wait for a good uncle who will ultimately take off your last pants.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Boris55

and not wait for a good uncle who will ultimately take off your last pants.

We have raised gas prices here. Immediately on the ruble. Yesterday I was standing there, refueling and thinking, and who is taking off our pants in the end.

[Victor Demchenko]

to list or will you think of it yourself?
I can help:
Great and infallible
The smartest prime
Wisest Minister of Finance
and what a specialist the Minister of Economic Development can’t describe in any fairy tale!
add ischo?

[Greenwood]

How so? Here, comrades above assure us that these gentlemen are the best that Russia deserves. Otherwise, war, revolution, Maidan, Ukraine, cookies ...

[Neputin]

Oleg Lurie is a well-known liberal bastard. For me, Mark Twain’s above quotation more accurately and elegantly reflects the election campaign everywhere, without exception. Putin will certainly win. It is obvious. And thanks to the administrative resource as well. And thanks to the huge number of "housekeepers" who are afraid and do not want to change anything. And they don’t want to change because they themselves have a "snout in the gun." And so the power steals and gives us slowly. Enough for life and okay. I predict a state of hopelessness for the next 6 years. But to all those who are now tearing up the crotch “for stability”, for “wise politics” and so on, let me remind you that the oligarchs rule us and pay Putin all this election comedy, too. And these people just do not throw money down the drain. This is their long-term investment in the possibility of stable theft and dribbling of the country for the next 6 years. And they will beat their money back. so all this banquet is at our and your expense. Then do not whine. I remember you all. And when vague doubts that we are once again ... sorry, they deceived us, they will visit you - beware - I will beat you with your own quotes, so to speak.

[mcqway]

Can you give me more details? What is the hopelessness? Only for you personally? Well, without any slogans there.
Pure specific)))

[Neputin]

Answer.
1. The lack of a coherent domestic economic policy in general and the lack of improvement in my personal well-being as a state. employee in particular. The slogan about bringing the minimum wage to the level of a living wage is not even ridiculous - it is terrible, one must not be proud here, but be terrified by our poverty. The survival of most of the Russian population is not "thanks", but "contrary".
2. The absence of REAL reforms and changes in society that would lead to an improvement in the situation in the country. Please do not propose education and health care reforms - everything is clear with them.
3. The endless lies (or half-truths) that flow from the screens of our media, interspersed with low-grade humorous and entertaining shows.
4. The lack of real competition in both regional and federal elections, which leads to impunity and lack of control of local princes.
5. Building a vertical of power not on the basis of competence, but on the principle of personal loyalty, which contributes to the mess and corruption in all production areas. Any incompetent leadership can only establish labor discipline. As for the specific changes in the production process itself - here they are sour, because not in the material (example - Zurabov - the head of the convoy - the former Minister of Health.
6. The use of state institutions to achieve the commercial goals of the oligarchic elite (the only operation in Syria, to prevent the construction of a gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe, which is worth)
7. Cronyism and theft of people close to power. You don’t have to go far for examples, the same Serdyukov, Vasilyeva. Do not remind me what position Rogozin’s son has? And the children of Sechin, and others?
Enough for you or continue?

[Lars971a]

I agree with all points except paragraph 6. Russia desperately needs a full-fledged base in the Mediterranean Sea, and we would have been thrown out like kittens from Tartus ..................... .

[Lnglr]

I predict a state of hopelessness for the next 6 years.

Nevertheless, let's try to at least do something so that your forecast does not come true. At a minimum, go to the polls and vote for Grudinin.
The TV shows its rating of 6,5-7%. And even Putin’s Vkontakte support group “Information Support”, where she is ruled by solid pro-Putin, is already 17% for Grudinin.
We have a chance and we need to use it.

[Victor Demchenko]

I join, it is because of these guys that all this pack remains in power! laziness and complete indifference is to blame for the fact that such a guano is in power! (I do not mean personally the GDP, but its environment ....)

[Lnglr]

Again the king is good, the boyars are bad ..... How much can you already?

[alexhol]

Want a look from Belarus? So, given that our holding, like most other companies in the country, works closely with Russian enterprises, we are not interested in any “shocks”. But we are interested in clear rules in business. Now, unfortunately, unfortunately, the attitude towards any new partner from the Russian Federation is at least wary. All business in Russia today is built on the “squeeze” principle, which is why Crimea got so easily - a well-developed scheme at the highest level. As an example, representatives of Uralkali have already tried to behave. as bandits. Result: not with our Old Man in such games to play. In our country, people's wealth belongs to the people. not 2% of the population.

[Boris55]

Quote: alexhol

All business in Russia today is built on the “squeeze” principle, which is why Crimea got so easily - a well-established scheme at the highest level.

Those who squeeze something wanted Russia to start a full-scale war with Ukraine. It would be better for Belarus. The brilliantly conducted military operation to return the Crimea is entirely the merit of the security forces led by Putin.
In the next six years, Putin will solve the issue of independence. The next president after him will deal with the "wringers", with those who do not have time to escape during the last term of Putin’s reign. Unfortunately, this issue could not be solved earlier.

[av58]

The Crimea was not "squeezed out", but returned the stolen goods. A stolen person always returns home, sooner or later. As for the "wealth of the Belarusian people", "Uralkali" and the Old Man, for starters, return overdue loans from Russia for a couple of tens of billions of dollars that Russia supported and supports your economy, and before that, pick up saliva.

[alexhol]

Depressed, depressed. Classically: with armed men, with a documentary. what is legal (referendum). Which of those who depressed - admitted to depressing? But everything could be done really in accordance with international standards, with the invitation of all kinds of representatives, etc. Over time, the result would be the same, but it would not be necessary to press the products with a bulldozer.
PS Turkey. Kemer. Fall 2017 According to personal feelings of Russians, 70% percent. Probably Crimea does not accommodate all vacationers?

[Stas157]

Quote: alexhol

Depressed, depressed. Classically: with armed men, with a documentary. what is legal (referendum). Which of those who depressed - admitted to depressing?

There is no such international definition - “squeezed out”. Why are you using saucepan, sub-vocabulary vocabulary? It is impossible to express a thought differently?
The West interprets this as annexation. But what annexation is this without a single drop of blood! But, we still don’t agree with you, right? Therefore, you ask any Crimean citizen whether Russia annexed Crimea by force, or whether he himself returned to his "Home Harbor". The answer will be unambiguous and undeniable.

[alexhol]

This so-called term came from Russia. And as for the "bloodless annexation" - the Anschluss of Austria in 1938. I have no doubt that even today the majority of Crimeans will confirm their choice in favor of Russia. The question is different - it had to be done so that everyone was happy. Hard? Of course it’s hard. But this is politics., But it turned out like a drunken neighbor pick up a wallet. The neighbor is not the worst; he will sober up someday, but will no longer give you a hand. And we all live on the same site.

[Old]

I am from the Crimea, one might say ... People are very glad that they were "squeezed out". I talked with Odessa ... Everyone said that they also expected that they would be taken away. These are the facts. I’m silent about Donbass.
And do not give stupid advice. Everything was done exceptionally correctly. And sanctions would have been anyway.

[your1970]

Quote: alexhol

Over time, the result would be the same, but it would not be necessary to press the products with a bulldozer.

“You should be silent about the sanctions.” Thanks to them, some Belarusian businessmen’s incomes are growing quite well: fish, shrimps, cheeses.
On fingers - everything seems to be imported into Belarus and the type is processed from raw materials into products. But there is a nuance .....
Processing involves changing the HS code at the level of the first 4 characters. NOT is sufficient recycling. If a change in recycling NOT something happened NOT is considered to be originating from this country. Thus, for shrimp originating obviously from third countries, customs duties should be paid when importing from Belarus to the Russian Federation.
Failure to pay customs duties / taxes is contraband.
The Russian Federation (in order to support the Old Man) turns a blind eye to this and actually directly gives money to the budget of the Republic of Belarus. This is crazy money, very crazy ..
If at least 10% such money would be used from the Russian Federation to Limitrofam - they would bite American ambassadors by the feet, hang the "forest brothers" and spit in the direction of the EU ...
Just for the idea of ​​the amount of money - when importing 1 the wagon of Chinese workwear the VAT is paid in the region of 600, but the customs duty in the region almost 3 million rub.

[Rustic i ......]

“But everything could be done really in accordance with international standards, with all kinds of representatives invited there, etc.” - Representatives of Turkey, England, France must be invited, they defended Crimea so zealously that their common cemetery still exists there. Can you immediately transfer Crimea to America? And representatives of "international standards" will be pleased. Come on, who else will offer?

[mcqway]

Squeeze Crimea - a masterpiece! ))))
But what should NATO bases be there?
But nothing that the people in Crimea did not want to live under hohland?
And Nitsche, that Crimea has always been Russian?

[Sergey Cojocari]

Return and squeeze, two big differences. “Return”, This is the landing from the sea, this is blood and fires, “squeeze” - this is how it really happened. Not a drop of blood was shed, the military bases of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were blocked and forced to surrender under the threat of complete destruction ... Yes, Crimea was ALWAYS Russian, but ask Putin, who built the Mausoleum and awarded the highest order of Russia, the one who drunk the Crimea Khokhlov.

[alexhol]

That's right, but tell me, if you had a rest in Crimea before, did someone reproach that you speak Russian? What power would you say could remove Russian ships from Sevastopol? Which country’s money was best taken for settlement by Crimeans? Where could I let me eat and relax for every taste at a real price?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

The same one that promised not to expand NATO to the east.

[freddyk]

Sergey Kozhokar, absolutely agree. It was necessary to “squeeze” Novorossia, while there was an opportunity. And now only "return."

[Sergey Cojocari]

It was necessary to! But! Putin is standing guard over the interests of the oligarchy, and there his troubles. in these disassemblies on the redistribution of property, the population of Donbass is interested in the owners of mines, factories and ships, in the last turn. Time is lost, a generation of "wide horses" has grown in Ukraine. Now, to "return", it will be necessary to shed a sea of ​​blood. Who will do this? Putin? Never! Zakharchenko? He was given the “muzzle” of the Minsk agreements, time was lost ... Now Russia will receive an American air base near Kharkov and a naval base in Odessa.

[alexhol]

In your words, the result of the "successful foreign policy" of the current government.

[alexhol]

A masterpiece, not a masterpiece, but glory to God without human sacrifice.
1. Is it nothing that Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey are NATO countries, and now Georgia and Ukraine often host enemy ships? Maybe it's time to connect them?
2. And is it that the people in Chechnya in the 90s did not want to live under Russia?
3. But nothing that Koenigsberg was always "Prussian"?

[Neputin]

Regarding the "squeezing of the Crimea." Yes, squeezed out! Because they pursued the geopolitical interests of the country (for once). If everyone were in the USSR, then they would pursue the interests of the USSR. But with the collapse of the USSR, one country was formed that has the ability to defend its interests and many "geopolitical dwarfs" that are not able to do this. Is it a shame? Of course. But such is life. Belarusians are not to blame, the people who squandered the USSR are to blame. Therefore, all countries in the post-Soviet space need to be prepared for the fact that when the "big boys" (Russia, China, USA) come to play in the sandbox, it is better for everyone else to step aside and watch quietly. Maybe something will fall. And there’s nothing personal - geopolitics, panimaeshshsh ....

[alexhol]

Finally I heard the answer without hypocrisy. Thank. The only question is whether the Russians (98% of the population) have become easier and better from "pursuing their geopolitical interests"? Hardly.

[Neputin]

The answer is definitely no. But when it comes to the interests of the state on a global scale, it is not customary to recall the immediate interests of people. You know what annoys me the most. They do not want or are afraid to tell the truth to their people. We are not enemies, we understand a lot, and we are ready to understand and even tolerate. Just say - for what. When we in the winter of 2015 turned off the electricity in the Krasnodar Territory, we all understood where the energy was going. But the authorities stubbornly told us tales of repair work and other canoes. Well, tell the truth in the end. From this endless and useless lie, it becomes very disgusting. Does the government really not understand that it discredits itself?
The main thing that they did was to prevent a geopolitical catastrophe in the form of the loss of Sevastopol as the base of the Navy and Crimea, which was planned by Ukraine and NATO in 2017. Ukraine would never have extended the lease agreement of Sevastopol after 2017. But the circumstances were perfectly successful. Or were prepared ..... Who knows?

[alexhol]

The costs of the 2018 World Cup were already more than 600 billion rubles. , but the circles and sections are paid. You can’t forbid living well, but ... Russia is not Qatar.

[Captain45]

Quote: alexhol

You cannot forbid beautiful living, but ... Russia is not Qatar.

And all the more so, Belarus, which is not sitting on the Russian suction. Russia can afford the Olympics, the World Cup, and the bridge, unlike some, can be built.
I didn’t want to hurt you, but they ran into my own comments and teachings.

[Gardamir]

Olympics, and the World Cup, and build a bridge

It’s a pity for the pensioners.

[Captain45]

Quote: Gardamir

It’s a pity for the pensioners.

Well, I don’t know what pensioners are. I’m a pensioner, my sister is retired, her husband is also a pensioner, but everyone has enough bread and butter, and if I want to, I can spread caviar on top. Are you retired? If not, then you don’t have to spread it snot for seniors. Sufferers for someone else's life

[Gardamir]

. Sufferers for someone else's life

But we wouldn’t go to the swamp! We lived well in the Union, but people like Putin destroyed it, although we all had enough. My older brother is 13 years older; he worked on a collective farm all his life. And Putin came, and in the zero collective farms began to close. The brother somehow pounded himself to retirement. He also has enough for bread and butter, but no more.

[Captain45]

Quote: Gardamir

But we wouldn’t go to the swamp! We lived well in the Union, but people like Putin destroyed it,

Well, I don’t need to go into the swamp, you want to dive yourself. Although you have been diving in it since the 1991 of the year and insist on what is not. Where have you, sufferers from the Union, been from 19 to 21.08.91? I saw with the banner “Let's not ruin the Union”, google photos, how many people were screaming and with the posters ran- “Yeltsin! Yeltsin!” “Democracy!” Do you finish talking? Now, like in that joke, sit and pi@#*te.Putin to you collective farm collapsed or chairman-communist, the same as Grudinin? The fact that your brother only has enough bread and butter is not my fault. Who he studied, who earned something, then he e. You are constantly in all comments whining for the Union and you won’t understand that there isn’t and willn’t. You need to live now, and not go forward with your head turned back. It’s not a long fall. I’ve been on the site for several days and have been reading for a long time Your comments, you are hiding behind nostalgia for the Union and only do that you are constantly insulting the President, the established order. So rejoice, because in the Union you loved, you would have long known a psychiatric hospital or art. 190 of the Criminal Code.

[Celt]

I was at the training camp from 10.08.91 to 24.08.91, as I understand it, we were waiting for three green whistles, but someone did not dare .... but in vain.

[your1970]

Quote: Gardamir

We lived well in the Union, but such as Putin it was destroyed, although we all had enough.

-And you did not accidentally beguiled him with member of the Central Committee of the CPSU B.N. Yeltsin ???

[Gardamir]

-and you are not

Do you think that Putin was already not a janitor? Since May 1990 - Advisor to the Chairman of the Leningrad City Council of People's Deputies Sobchak. Probably had a hand in what to turn Leningrad into Gangster Petersburg, or is it holy anyway?

[your1970]

yeah, the adviser to the chairman of the city council of the USSR collapsed .....
The Central Committee of the CPSU and all the Communists (all 16 million, including the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB) stood on the side - when Putin collapsed the USSR alone ....

[IS-80_RVGK2]

With this parochial nagging you vna Ukraine. Tired of hearing these nonsense already. And what is the joy of ordinary US residents from building an aircraft carrier for $ 7 billion?

[woron333444]

alexhol And your wealth belongs to one person and his family.

[tasha]

Come on, brothers, let's do the vanging
Suppose that in the presidential election 2018 was defeated by Pavel Grudinin. What steps will be taken in accordance with his program, how they can be implemented and what it will lead to ... There are supporters, there are opponents. So let's help together ..
Only, please, without this, like “Great grace and white pants will come” ..

[alexhol]

The biggest expectation is equal conditions and the rule of law in business. Money should return to Russia. Business should believe the new president, as Trump did (here I trust the words of journalist Mikhail Taratut, a well-known journalist in the past, and data on unemployment statistics in the USA).

[tasha]

Money should return to Russia.

Little money, and so on, but big ....

We will nationalize strategically important and systemically important industries, electric power industry, railways, communication systems, leading banks.

[mcqway]

In the case of Grudinin, an awful redistribution of dough and spheres of influence will begin.
That's all.
And under this case, they will begin to press us from all sides.
Syria immediately profuka.
Hohland shit toss. Donbass will start to peck.
Well, according to the list ....

[Tatanka Yotanka]

Quote: mcqway

Well, according to the list ....

"the battle of psychics" has borne fruit, the unknown Th will be tomorrow, people confidently vang about the day after tomorrow)))

[tasha]

confidently vang about the day after tomorrow

Honestly, under the pretext of vanging, I wanted to get a more or less intelligible analysis of the candidate's program. But, judging by the undeveloped interest, nobody sees further slogans and promises and does not want to think ... Maybe that’s the calculation.
A couple of thoughts appeared in the process of hard physical labor. They will come in order - maybe I'll write. Or maybe not

[your1970]

The fact that there will be a redistribution of property is without a doubt and without options ...
How bloody will it be?
Will the current beat off or come new? We will not guess
Even if only large capital is nationalized, the directors of large state-owned factories do not think you will find ways to steal? And this will entail the need to nationalize the entire business. Why? nobody in the USSR needed oil wagons or aluminum slugs — there was nobody to sell them. And now there will be bugs right away in the small business — they will quickly orient themselves and pull all this stuff from state-owned factories. Well, state-owned plant directors will happily rub their hands ...
And only when everything around is a draw - i.e. state - maybe it will stop ...

[Captain45]

Quote: your1970

nobody in the USSR needed oil wagons or aluminum slabs for nothing — there was nobody to sell them.

No, you are wrong. There was someone to implement them, only the proceeds from the sale went to the state budget i.e. not for personal use, but for state use. But when they created cooperatives at enterprises in 1987, and at the state level, they were forbidden by law to check their business activities, then they dragged everything that could be sold for sale. Personally, I know how it was impossible to export ingots at a copper-nickel plant at that time metal, so the cooperative at the plant stamped scoops out of them and, like products, drove all this with terrible force to the Baltic states, and from there to Italy. And everyone was happy, the workers received a salary, and the management received the currency.

[your1970]

and I'm talking about the same .. have to nationalize anyway ALLnationalization is meaningless ...

[pavelty]

Something analyst Romana became a lot

[Neputin]

No, it’s not enough for the commentator of Pauline.

[kaschey]

Brothers, do not be afraid, everything will be fine!
Forward and only forward!

[Dietmar]

It's not about how many billions anyone has. Grudinin began to lie from the very beginning of his nomination. What is called, confused in the testimony. This is enough to lose the respect and trust of many.

[IStreebok]

Dear, explain to me, a deeply distant person ... And what is better than one ... of the other ??? Grudinin appreciates his working time, by his own admission, 250 times higher than his workers ... What is he better than Putin lackeys, who value their time more than others in THOUSAND ??? For me they are all ... One wildest parasitic entity. The system is so built ... NO CHOICE.

[mcqway]

There is always a choice.
Yes, with the words more careful. No Putin lackeys. It’s just that in this situation, the president has to work with those in the 90s, he crushed the country and now places in power.
That's all. Do you think Putin can not put under the knife "those lackeys"? Can.
Just then the stench rises immediately: "Ahh .... 37th year !! Repressions! .." And those who talk about Putin lackeys will stink.
This time. And two: who will immediately work? Instead of them? Well, imagine: once - and there is no government and half a thought. Right tomorrow and what? Who will steer the process?
Therefore, they crush them slowly. Prepare a shift. And from the bottom. Young people are being pulled up.
Everything is just like before the collapse of the USSR. Only there were future liberals full-time students prepared, sent to the states studying. And now the right ones - for the country, which. And it takes just another 6-10 years for the normal generation to grow up.

[Gardamir]

immediately the stink will rise

I want to say something rude. When the current president supports the oligarchs, there is no one to stink. And here he stinks, you see, got scared. Do not make your keyboard laugh. The President SHOULD work at home and not be afraid of any stench.

[Captain45]

Quote: Gardamir

I want to say something rude. TO

And I will say for you personally - perish the evil spirits !!! Do you know why? Because they did not respond to my comment from 12.45. Well, you started a topic about pensioners. Are you sure? Ali has nothing to answer?

[Gardamir]

[quote] [? Ali has nothing to answer? / quote] mutually.

[avva2012]

Only there were future liberals full-time students prepared, sent to the states studying.
That's right, we learned, and now we are reaping the results of our studies. And already taught new ones, those who studied in the states, and got the “right ones”.

[zoolu350]

Quote: mcqway

That's all. Do you think Putin can not put under the knife "those lackeys"? Can.
Just then the stench rises immediately: "Ahh .... 37th year !! Repressions! .." And those who talk about Putin lackeys will stink.
This time. And two: who will immediately work? Instead of them? Well, imagine: once - and there is no government and half a thought. Right tomorrow and what? Who will steer the process?
Therefore, they crush them slowly. Prepare a shift. And from the bottom. Young people are being pulled up.
Everything is just like before the collapse of the USSR. Only there were future liberals full-time students prepared, sent to the states studying. And now the right ones - for the country, which. And it takes just another 6-10 years for the normal generation to grow up.

Well, stink and Che rises? But the thing will be done. You probably meant the youth Klaus from Novy Urengoy, as well as the children of Rogozin, Siluanov, Peskov, etc., but these are correct, these are for the country ...

[Greenwood]

Quote: mcqway

It’s just that in this situation, the president has to work with those in the 90s, he crushed the country and now in power.

These people pulled Putin from oblivion and dragged him to the presidency. I think with certain conditions. He is their whole man. And he "does not abandon his own."

[Captain45]

Quote: Greenwood

These people pulled Putin from oblivion and dragged him to the presidency.

Who exactly are surnames, first names, addresses, appearances, passwords? On what conditions? Don’t you know? So then there is nothing to trynde and then I do not need to write that they say google yourself.

[yehat]

"who will work" is a primitive blackmail. There have been more than 100 revolutions in the world and have always found who will work after. It's not a problem. The problem is different - Putin has fulfilled his mission to stabilize the state and now we need to take the next step, and there is no one to do it. Neither Putin, nor Grudinin, nor Sobchak was mentioned at night - no one can take healing steps. I was hoping that Starikov would come to the polls and the patriots would be able to do something without unleashing a civil war, but this is not.
And now I have only 1 hope - to put together a government of real technocrats from people like Glazyev or a breed similar to the Cabinet of Ministers of Kaiser Germany.
20 years have passed, in 20 years a huge amount of resources has been sold and nothing has changed for the better. Pensions are low, financial problems are everywhere. That is the problem, not Putin or the Central Bank. A real movement is needed, even somewhere with the participation of fanatics, otherwise an amba.

[free]

Quote: yehat

"who will work" is a primitive blackmail. There have been more than 100 revolutions in the world and have always found who will work after. It's not a problem. The problem is different - Putin has fulfilled his mission to stabilize the state and now we need to take the next step, and there is no one to do it. Neither Putin, nor Grudinin, nor Sobchak was mentioned at night - no one can take healing steps. I was hoping that Starikov would come to the polls and the patriots would be able to do something without unleashing a civil war, but this is not.
And now I have only 1 hope - to put together a government of real technocrats from people like Glazyev or a breed similar to the Cabinet of Ministers of Kaiser Germany.
20 years have passed, in 20 years a huge amount of resources has been sold and nothing has changed for the better. Pensions are low, financial problems are everywhere. That is the problem, not Putin or the Central Bank. A real movement is needed, even somewhere with the participation of fanatics, otherwise an amba.

The gdp has never had a mission to stabilize the state; for this, it was posed by the oligarchs in order to seek a compromise between the people and the oligarchy and create the appearance of governance.

[your1970]

Quote: yehat

"who will work" is a primitive blackmail. There have been more than 100 revolutions in the world and have always found who will work after.

- only ordinary people then had fun
In 1924, they wrote out a birth certificate in the NKVD of the West Kazakhstan Region: Vylentyna Iosikovna Ptitsyna ... Then they wrote passports normally (Valentina Iosipovna Ptetsyna) - when it came time to retire, they told her, but the birth certificate is not yours, go to court ... It was in the USSR ...
Some semi-literate aunt was shoved into the heads, she wrote to everyone like that ...
FOUND THE SPECIALIST !!But what, the rules ....

[Victor Demchenko]

I was back in Soviet times, the practice of leveling, when they paid not for what you specifically did, but according to the way the normalizer looks at your salary ....

[bk316]

Grudinin values ​​his working time, by his own admission, 250 times higher than his employees

And maybe he's right ....
I think there are gaps and more.
Here a doctor sits in a district clinic behind the door with the inscription surgeon, he knows how to open anything (except that he can inject the chirium on his ass), but the surgeon makes unique (in the sense that he alone can do this all over the world) heart operations. How many times is his time more valuable?
So what do you yourself know in life?

[Vincent]

How much does such an article dash off?

[woron333444]

thirty pieces of silver, and he has such articles full

[unignm]

funny what a naive little guy

[GUKTU76]

I understood that it is quite normal for the President of Russia to have accounts with foreign banks. So that in which case the "civilized" world could influence the adoption of the "right" decision. The "civilized" world will definitely not refuse to support such a candidate.

[Gardamir]

The President of Russia to have accounts in foreign banks.

no the presidents of Russia are stored in the cello

[Captain45]

Quote: Gardamir

no the presidents of Russia are stored in the cello

But the cello with money is at home in the closet and money is always at hand, and not in someone else's bank

[av58]

Roman Skomorokhov could be more smart and smarter Grudinin exists insofar as he is generally noticed. It is unlikely that Putin and his headquarters will pay any attention to this “candidate”, or even to his stolen billions. Grudinin is such a bone to the liberals and opposition, who would otherwise have no one to present to the elections. Well, it’s not Ksyushu with Navalny, or some kind of Gordon with Yavlinsky, but a whole red billionaire. Grudinin will be forgotten immediately after the election, but for now there is reason for reviews, analyzes and articles

[a housewife]

One billionaire has already tried. Only on its own, not from any party. I already forgot my surname ... There was something sandalwood with the girls in Kursavel. Something he was not chosen. Although, too, rich means smart.

[Gardamir]

[quote] [smart. / quote] this is the one who knows how to store money in cases of musical instruments

[Santor]

Roma. Have you read the official biography of Grudinin? I strongly advise you to read it carefully .....

He did not serve in the army, in 82 after graduation he was immediately appointed head of the Mehmaster collective farm named after Lenin, and from 89 to 95 he worked as a deputy for commercial work for a year ... And then he worked hard for deputies, first from EdRO (and by the way, he worked as a representative of Putin), then when it didn’t work he rushed under the wing of the Communist Party tried from there ... And binggo - only this year I managed to get on the Council of the small town of Vidnoe .... Once again, I advise you to carefully read his biography
He didn’t serve in the army, he didn’t even manage a lousy district .... The collective farm ... it’s still in question since the owner of all the lands and the collective farm itself is (final beneficiary) Roman Abramovich. And by the way, there was still no other court decision in the 2011 case.

[Gardamir]

Have you read the official biography of Putin?

It smelled of fried, left the Communist Party, violated the oath, and left the KGB.

[Greenwood]

I would also add this to the colorful biography of the guarantor:

In 1992-1996, Putin, among the "reformist political activists," underwent training under the program of the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs (NDI).

[bk316]

And nobody cares that the VTsIOM interviewed as many as 3 (three) thousand people over the phone. in the comments (for whom it is allowed) dozens of yelling “And we are for Grudinin” is a trifle.

Well, what about you? Roman is a respectable respectable person, but you are manifesting yourself as a victim of the USE. It's a shame for you.
If you understood how statistical methods work, then you would understand WHAT REALLY 3000 RANDOMLY SELECTED ENOUGH AND TEN WRITTEN WRITTEN IT IS A TRANSPORT.

By the way, everyone for the future: VTsIOM methods are open, if you have enough education you can check everything yourself.
I am not a specialist in matstat, and I can not guarantee that they are all correct BUT.
All absolutely all objections that I saw in VO or other forums do not stand up to ANY criticism.

[bk316]

Less than 300000 rubles a month is the people, and more is unlikely. Grudinin not only from the Communist Party, but also from a wide range of other patriotic forces.

It’s a shame that I am not the people, FOR I AM IN ONE COMPANY WITH GRUDININ.
Gentlemen commi Well, what do you drown your candidate, what is wrong that he EARNING lam in a month?

[V]

These figures submitted by Grudinin to the CEC are open and understandable:
CEC: Incomes Grudinin in six years amounted to more 157 million rubles.
Also, according to the Central Election Commission, the candidate got rid of foreign securities worth 7,5 billion rubles. He had 600 securities in Liechtensteinische Landesbank: 200 structural notes with a face value of 13,9 million rubles each, 200 Eurobonds with a face value of 11,7 million rubles each and 200 options of the same face value. Total face value of securities is 7 billion 492 million rubles.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vortex

Also, according to the Central Election Commission, the candidate got rid of foreign securities worth 7,5 billion rubles

He lowered them into the toilet? Or transferred to someone in management?

[V]

Quote: Golovan Jack

He lowered them into the toilet? Or transferred to someone in management?

I agree that there are questions, but no answers. This text was not just highlighted, for it is completely incomprehensible where the voiced securities for such a large amount went, or the money earned for their sale. Including, it is not clear how, with his declared income, the amount of 7,5 billion rubles appeared for the purchase of securities.

[Kirill Popov]

About 7,5 billion rubles is another media lie. Eurobonds are sold in lots of 200 pcs., One bond = $ 1000 (http://en.cbonds.info/emissions/issue/25489). If it were to multiply then the declaration would be illegal as the total value should be indicated. (19FZ On the election of the President, Appendix 3, 10 note.)

[Yngvar]

Maybe we’ll just figure out why people want to vote for Grudinin?
First, they simply won’t let him become president (remember? - “it’s not the one who voted for the victory, but the one who was“ correctly ”counted”).
Secondly, with a set of 30% or more of GDP, you will have to seriously think about the issue of domestic (read social) policy. Since iPhone Dima is simply “zero” (or a screen), the question of the prime minister will be very serious, and this is where Grudinin’s appointment to this post is possible ...
Thirdly, the overwhelming majority of those wishing to vote for Grudinin understand that for another 6 years, Putin’s presidency may simply not survive (no work - no money - rising tariffs, prices, medical and educational services - there’s nothing to pay for everything!)
And finally, the indicators for people are the dead Chubais, who is being hounded in the Kolyma by Serdyukov and a company that returns money from the USA (billions invested in Tregeris) to Nabiulin ... and other camarilla like Kudrin, Gref, Oreshkin ... And local lawless people from the law!

[Captain45]

Quote: Yngvar

And finally, the indicators for the people are the dead Chubais, Serdyukov hatching in Kolyma and the company returning money from the USA (billions invested in Tregeris) to Nabiulin ... and other camarilla like Kudrin, Gref, Oreshkin ...

And all this, that’s all the beauty will be under Grudinin ?! Yes you, my friend, a storyteller, worse than Andersen or Br Grimm there

[Yngvar]

With the premiership of Grudinin, I think we will wait for this moment ... At least in a minimal form! And also I did not say that all this would come under Grudinin, but only expressed my opinion about the choice of people! I do not impose my opinion, yours doesn’t matter to me ...

[Victor Demchenko]

carefully read everything that was written, and the article and comments.
I want my five drops or five cents? bring in our reasoning. Now vang about what will be, in my opinion this is fortune-telling from scratch, simply because first you need to win the election. further and in order, the first thing to do is to return the central bank to the field of activity of Russia, not to hell the Fed, this money must be returned to the country and sent to the development of the country. but against theft and cuts there is a very good method, it has been known for a long time and works flawlessly! a little pathetic, but in a different way.
further, many opponents correctly say that there are no real ways, or they are not announced, to achieve the goals and so-called steps of the Grudinin program and the team. I draw the attention of opponents namely: TEAMs, and this is already a lot.
Grudinin’s team has a lot of people who have both experience and knowledge, and these people did not grow out of office hamsters, like the current nomenclature, which apart from sawing and stealing, knows nothing more! and more:
The author is also right in the fact that as soon as a real candidate appeared on our horizon, the media immediately began to pour slop on him. maybe this is what it says? ....

[V]

I cannot even imagine Grudinin as the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation even for a second. Including, he is a complete zero in foreign global politics. I would not want to see something slurred at the presidency, which was Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev.

[Captain45]

Quote: Viktor Demchenko

I draw the attention of opponents namely: TEAMs, and this is already a lot.
Grudinin’s team has a lot of people who have both experience and knowledge, and these people did not grow out of office hamsters, like the current nomenclature, which apart from cutting and stealing, knows nothing more

Who is it in the team? Boldyrev? Well, well, let's see what kind of fruit it is:
"Yuri Boldyrev was a member of the Interregional Deputy Group (the infamous MDG), which was actively involved in the collapse of the USSR from the inside with American money.
The MDG consisted of such odious personalities as Boris Yeltsin, academician Sakharov, Korotich, Vakarchuk Sr. (father of the singer-songwriter from the Ocean of Elsa) and many other well-known dissidents and anti-advisers.
Throughout its existence, the MDG was overseen by foreign, mainly American, consultants and political strategists, as well as journalists from Radio Liberty and other foreign media outlets that actively covered political processes in the Soviet Union.
Among others, RAND Corporation employee Alexander Rar, employee of the Soviet NED project sector William Pomerantz, NED representative in the RSFSR Michael McFaul (the same one), John Dunlop, senior researcher at the Hoover Institute, Catherine Fitzpatrick, head of the Europe and Central Asia department of Human Rights Watch, member the advisory committee of the International League for Human Rights and the editor of the Chronicle of the Defense of Rights in the USSR Edward Kline and other similar bastards.
The MDG projects were funded by the Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Endowment, the Rockefeller Foundation, the US National Democracy Fund (NED) and other American charitable foundations. According to William Robinson, the MDG projects were financed by foundations and structures affiliated mainly with the Republican Party of the United States, pursuing their own political and economic interests in the USSR to remove existing barriers to expanding Russian-American economic ties, in terms of lobbying for the free market, promoting the idea of ​​restoring private ownership of the means of production and representative democracy, which made it possible to create a school at the MDG for the preparation of equal composition for further market reforms and liberalization of the Russian economy and, in fact, predetermined the success of Yeltsin’s presidential campaign in 1991 and the subsequent course for liberal market reforms in the economy and social sphere. "Well, then, who cares: http: //www.imperiyanews.ru/details/29ed
e4a8-dcf3-e711-80e8-020c5d00406e

[groks]

A pointless article. Putin will win Putin’s presidential election. The rest were added to make it more interesting - maybe even the turnout in the elections will be non-zero.

[alexhol]

I can, of course, be mistaken, but the mood and expectations of the upcoming elections are very similar to ours in 1994 in Belarus. Then won Lukashenko. Moreover, those who say that the more Grudinin is accused of “international Zionist conspiracy,” the electorate will more confidently vote for the latter.

[groks]

This will only mean that our oligarchs decided to change one president Putin for another. But this will not happen - too much has been invested in the present.

[alexhol]

They will agree with the following, as agreed in due time with the present. Who did not want, then of course regretted.

[groks]

So you need to pump it again. Indeed, after the Crimea, we expected Putin to take decisive actions to restore order. Because the people would for him THEN fall to fall.
For a real replacement, it will not be difficult to find a person with a crystal reputation.

[Greenwood]

Quote: groks

after the Crimea, we expected Putin to take decisive action to restore order.

Naive. I would like to put things in order, I would bring it in my first two terms.

[groks]

Well, you can’t dream? In general, everyone who argues with the staff, even if these are the staff paid for by EdR, really want to be wrong.

[alexhol]

So the first term can just be set off.

[Greenwood]

And then something went wrong?

[Yngvar]

I agree that Putin will be! As the saying goes: "The King makes the retinue!" But ... I suppose that the elections were started not only for ostensibly supposed democracy, fairness of elections, but also for a "soft" change of the prime minister ... "The plush screen" was pierced, remaining in the title "chief pokemon" ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Yngvar

fairness of the election, but also for the "soft" change of the prime minister ... "Plush screen" pierced, remaining in the title of "main pokemon" ...

He will never be changed under the current president.
Just in time for the 75th anniversary of the breaking of the siege of Leningrad.
https://youtu.be/OgS5C-0LwOA

[Svetlana]

Roman, thanks for the good article, as always! All absolutely accurately noticed.

[Kazak_35]

http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov
Grudinin’s rating is still higher than that of GDP.

[bk316]

Grudinin's rating is still higher than that of GDP

Are you talking about paid SMS voting?
If so, THERE IS THIS EXAMPLE as illiterate victims of the exam without understanding anything in the essence of the matter are messing up the Internet.

[Captain45]

Quote: Kazak_35

Grudinin’s rating is still higher than that of GDP.

Yesterday I read an article on "Comte" - smart people unearthed through the Internet where this site is located and registered

Quote: Kazak_35

http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov

. In, damn miracles. Two people unknown to sociological circles somewhere in Saratov or Sarapul register a site and advertise such as a real vote count. And after all they believe. Quite a nation of yo ... sorry, he set off with his mind, settled in the virtual and did not pull anything into real life. "Well crazy what you take" (c)

[Natalia777]

Grudinin hid the existence of accounts in the offshore and positions himself as a communist under the symbols of the USSR. This goes against the evidence, when in fact Grudinin is a capitalist. This discrepancy and a clear lie in order to conceal offshore accounts in the end gave negative public relations to Grudinin. In addition, the Grudinin public relations company is dirty and annoying, which also gives a negative effect. Grudinin himself makes many mistakes in the course of his interviews. Grudinin promises a lot of the impossible and unrealistic, that is, "milk rivers and jelly banks" which, in principle, cannot be fulfilled. Based on this, my personal opinion is that Grudinin is incompetent in many elementary issues and is not suitable for the post of President of the Russian Federation. Grudinin is Poroshenko for Russia.

[Gardamir]

Grudinin hid the availability of accounts

What Putin is hiding, you will find out only after moving away from the chair.

[Kurochkin]

and the media in Russia are independent ????

[Selvester]

"It’s very funny, right, to watch how the leading media rushed to bury Pavel Grudinin."
Well, you are drowning for the chairman of an elite glamorous state farm at the Moscow Ring Road.
"The fact that all the media that published these results, in the comments (who is allowed), dozens shout" And we are for Grudinin, "is a trifle."
You wouldn’t have shouted yet - this is the work of the daughters of officers. The screech is a pillar - what kind of “popular” Grudinin is and what kind of wrong Putin is — let's not vote for him so that he has less legitimacy and can then do less.
The fact that Grudinin is coming from the Communist Party is already talking about everything. The Communist Party is the successor of the CPSU, and in the 91st the CPSU surrendered the country to the west with giblets. Gorbachev alone could not have done anything - the whole party elite has rotted. Now the Communist Party-kublo huckster parasitic on the communist idea.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Selvester

Now the Communist Party-kublo huckster parasitic on the communist idea.

Well, if the Communist Party kublo huckster, then EdRo then what? Serpentarium?

[Yngvar]

No! Fuckers!

[Natalia777]

Quote: raw174

Quote: zoolu350

Well, if for you the oligarchy of the Russian Federation is the people, then ......

With what amount on the account do you propose people to write down? ..
The very concept of PEOPLE implies an extension from the people! Let’s gather people in Kryzhopol in the square, eat, nominate Semenych, he will be popular, from the Kryzhopol people! And Grudinin from the Communist Party and Zyuganov ...

The point here is not only in the amount, as you yourself understand. The point here is the ownership of factories, barges, steamboats and the storage of funds in an elite offshore, which is Bank Linkhinstein. Thus, the offshore oligarch Mr. Grudinin was determined. And everyone understood that where the money is stored - the Motherland is there. Such noodles that the offshore capitalist oligarch Grudinin = communist is a rare citizen ready to eat.

[Svist]

Do you even understand the word offshore? Bank Linhinshtein, as you put it (you must understand that this is the Bank of Liechtenstein) is not an offshore. I explain for women in Uzbekistan:
Offshore is a company registered by foreign nationals in a country with a favorable tax climate, not conducting active activities in this country.

[lewerlin53rus]

The capitalist from the Communists, this alone should alert. Everyone who drowns for Grudinin, decide: are you in favor of the country, or just against Putin?

[bk316]

I understand correctly, you would vote for a rogue in your own warehouse, which falls under the definition of demoshiz, only with the replacement of "demo" with "commie".
This will not happen, their times have passed.

[Greenwood]

The Communist Party of the Soviet Union has long been denying private property and private enterprise. Nobody is now advocating a fully planned economy.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Greenwood

The Communist Party of the Soviet Union has long been denying private property and private enterprise. Nobody is now advocating a fully planned economy

Ay-ah-ah ... not good ...
But what about the Chinese comrades, with a planned economy?

[Greenwood]

Quote: Golovan Jack

But what about the Chinese comrades, with a planned economy?

China has long had a mixed economy and developed small and medium-sized businesses. Many members of the CCP are part-time entrepreneurs.
The same is true in socialist Vietnam. Same thing in Cambodia and Laos.

[Captain45]

Quote: Greenwood

The Communist Party of the Soviet Union has long been denying private property and private enterprise.

So what the hell are the Communists if they recognize private ownership of the means of production and produced surplus value. How, how, not having the means of production owned, are they going to distribute the surplus value produced by these means and not belonging to them? By way of an agreement with the owners? Then they are not communists, but opportunists-compromisers and Grudinin completely fits in with the topic of compromisers. So admit it openly, that you are not communists and do not fool people ... Balabol ....

[Svist]

Quote: lewerlin53rus

Everyone who drowns for Grudinin, decide: are you in favor of the country, or just against Putin?

I am glad for the country. All elections voted for Putin, and things are still there ...

[Yngvar]

Yes Yes! How many wolves do not feed, but the elephant is still thicker!

[free]

Quote: lewerlin53rus

The capitalist from the Communists, this alone should alert. Everyone who drowns for Grudinin, decide: are you in favor of the country, or just against Putin?

And those who are for the gdp are they for the country or for the gdp?

[Gardamir]

Cool. First, call a person an angel, and then begin to prove to everyone that he is a bad angel.
Firstly, Grudinin is not a communist, calm down. Calling him chairman, the bar drops in advance, which chairman is the president. But remember, as one team leader promised Putin to bring the men in support, he received a promotion higher than the governor’s.
Merits of the current government. For 18 years, medicine and education have been destroyed. Traditions and culture below the plinth, ordered to worship only the western. Speak as often as possible using English words. The feat of Soviet soldiers to belittle. Well, social stratification continues. All for the good of the rich, all in the name of the oligarchs. Putin is Chubais, Medvedev, Serdyukov.
Grudinin has not yet done anything good or bad, but the mud has been poured as an enemy of Russia.

[bk316]

Grudinin has not yet done anything good or bad, but the mud has been poured as an enemy of Russia

Well, they’ll take an example from you: the GDP has done a lot of good, but you pour a lot of dirt on it.
Know how to hold a punch.
If Grudinin honestly says, yes, this is my money I earned - well done.
And if he will bustle and lie - like, I forgot that on the accounts over the hillock 7 - then g.

[Gardamir]

GDP has done a lot of good

bring real things and not show off television. The destruction of medicine and schools under Putin is several times more than in the 90s. It is only the blind who cannot see. How many factories and factories are closed during the years of Putinism, Yeltsin envies ...
What can be proud of koleyizurengoy, crooked films, partisan athletes?

[Svist]

Quote: Gardamir

What can be proud of koleyizurengoy, crooked films, partisan athletes?

Partisans under the white flag did not fight ...

[bk316]

Destruction of medicine

That's just about medicine I do not need. Soviet medicine killed 3 of my close relatives and no one answered for it. And the one that GDP built has saved lives.
What’s going to be going downhill now, and if I were allied, they would just saw off my leg.
And I don’t give a damn about what I had to pay for it from the bell tower - THIS IS NORMAL. That's when they saw off your foot for FREE - THIS IS A WRONG.

And the fact that dozens of perinatal centers have been built in the country in which babies are nursed WHICH IN THE USSR JUST DO NOT BEEN CONSIDERED FOR PEOPLE. And I personally know these children! UNDERSTANDING YES, UNDER YOUR FAVORITE USSR, THEY WERE NOT OFFICIALLY INCLUDED IN THE DEATH STATISTICS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE.
So you want to agitate for the commies agitate BUT DO NOT DARE ME TO LIE ABOUT MEDICINE IN THE USSR AND THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

[Sergey Cojocari]

Do not shout! There are no deaf people here. USSR - 250 million people. RF - 140 million people. So do not dare a bad specimen to lie about Soviet medicine. There are still plenty of those who were treated in Soviet clinics, rested in Soviet sanatoriums, sent children to Soviet pioneer camps at sea. And until we are dead, you will not be able to denigrate the achievements of the people under the USSR!

[avva2012]

Quote: bk316 And ​​the fact that dozens of perinatal centers have been built in the country in which babies are nursed WHICH IN THE USSR JUST WERE NOT CONSIDERED FOR PEOPLE.

These babies replenish boarding schools for the mentally retarded, you do not know? 500gr., This is not a baby or even a fetus, it is an embryo. In the USSR, they nursed a fetus of a certain weight, and did not produce profound disabled people.
I understand the liberal? We understand nothing, but do we have all our opinions?

Soviet medicine killed 3 of my close relatives and no one answered for it.

Did she kill me right? But it is also known that the NKVD, innocently killed everyone. Everyone, everyone. Bandera, Vlasov, forest brothers. And here, lo and behold, as it turns out, there are no dogs left like them, not cut dogs.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE.

Itself, as if reflected in a mirror?

[free]

Quote: bk316

Destruction of medicine

That's just about medicine I do not need. Soviet medicine killed 3 of my close relatives and no one answered for it. And the one that GDP built has saved lives.
What’s going to be going downhill now, and if I were allied, they would just saw off my leg.
And I don’t give a damn about what I had to pay for it from the bell tower - THIS IS NORMAL. That's when they saw off your foot for FREE - THIS IS A WRONG.

And the fact that dozens of perinatal centers have been built in the country in which babies are nursed WHICH IN THE USSR JUST DO NOT BEEN CONSIDERED FOR PEOPLE. And I personally know these children! UNDERSTANDING YES, UNDER YOUR FAVORITE USSR, THEY WERE NOT OFFICIALLY INCLUDED IN THE DEATH STATISTICS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE.
So you want to agitate for the commies agitate BUT DO NOT DARE ME TO LIE ABOUT MEDICINE IN THE USSR AND THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

Nonsense I have familiar doctors in the regional hospital and the regional perinatal center, I listen to their hair stand on end! So it's good to tryndet "daughter of an officer."

[Svist]

What’s going to be going downhill now, and if I were allied, they would just saw off my leg.
And I don’t give a damn about what I had to pay for it from the bell tower - THIS IS NORMAL. That's when they saw off your foot for FREE - THIS IS A WRONG.
And the fact that dozens of perinatal centers have been built in the country in which babies are nursed WHICH IN THE USSR JUST DO NOT BEEN CONSIDERED FOR PEOPLE. And I personally know these children! UNDERSTANDING YES, UNDER YOUR FAVORITE USSR, THEY WERE NOT OFFICIALLY INCLUDED IN THE DEATH STATISTICS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE.
So you want to agitate for the commie, agitate BUT DO NOT DARE ME TO LIE ABOUT MEDICINE IN THE USSR AND RF
So, not everyone has enough money for an expensive operation. Here you are at the ski resort you can afford is normal. And others are forced to care for money from caring people to pay for the operation in order to save the life of their child. You do not know these children?

10. The destruction of the social sphere will be stopped. We guarantee the free and quality of secondary and higher education and medical services. We will return the annual free medical examination. We will set the standards for financing science, education and healthcare - at least 7% of GDP for each industry. The state will bear all the costs of treating seriously ill people, especially children. Physical culture and sport will become the property of the people, the most important means of strengthening the health of the nation.

[Greenwood]

Quote: bk316

GDP has done a lot of good

Most of the “good” things under Putin became possible due to the soaring 10-fold oil prices and a steady flow of petrodollars, which was not the case under Yeltsin.

Quote: bk316

like I forgot that in the accounts over the hillock 7 - that is, but

How much can you loot this figure. Journalists incorrectly calculated the cost of securities, they have already explained and refuted everything 10 times, but you don’t have everything.

[Svist]

Again seven billion ... Excuse me, are you following events?

Quote: bk316

GDP has done a lot of good, but you pour a lot of dirt on it

GDP may have done, but his team? The king is made by the retinue.

[Yngvar]

The following will be a call: "Tighten your belts closer to your throat!" So what? Price tags are growing for everything, taxes are dreaming of raising again, they’ll add age as soon as the elections are held, billionaires in 2017 increased by 10%!

Life is just heaven! (Correction - they have!)

[free]

Quote: Yngvar

The following will be a call: "Tighten your belts closer to your throat!" So what? Price tags are growing for everything, taxes are dreaming of raising again, they’ll add age as soon as the elections are held, billionaires in 2017 increased by 10%!

Life is just heaven! (Correction - they have!)

So they also want to make personal income tax 15 percent instead of 13 now, undoubtedly from great love for the people.

[AsKet84]

To all honest people: “Hello!” People remember in Russia if they need to collect taxes or arrange a call when the Homeland is in danger. And with various vile advertising slogans like: "Gazprom is a national treasure." It is an asset, but certainly not of that people !! Not on that scale! And the money for the treatment of children, it’s exactly the people who collects, who still have not at all lost faith in the honesty of these “memories” ... Eh, you can tamper the voter’s form with your own signature. Yes, it’s not a fact that a duplicate of this ballot with the “necessary” sigunature to the statistics will leave ..

[free]

Quote: AsKet84

To all honest people: “Hello!” People remember in Russia if they need to collect taxes or arrange a call when the Homeland is in danger. And with various vile advertising slogans like: "Gazprom is a national treasure." It is an asset, but certainly not of that people !! Not on that scale! And the money for the treatment of children, it’s exactly the people who collects, who still have not at all lost faith in the honesty of these “memories” ... Eh, you can tamper the voter’s form with your own signature. Yes, it’s not a fact that a duplicate of this ballot with the “necessary” sigunature to the statistics will leave ..

If we hit everything and at once they cannot resist, then everything is for the elections!

[Mussasi]

Well, what can I say, candidate Grudinin merged.

[Natalia777]

Quote: raw174

Quote: zoolu350

Less than 300000 rubles a month is the people, and more is unlikely.

Do you think Grudinin has less income? .. I doubt it ...

Quote: zoolu350

Grudinin not only from the Communist Party, but also from a wide range of other patriotic forces.

Duck all come from some kind of forces ... The same Putin from many many forces ...

The President is obliged to consider ALL FORCES and LEFT and RIGHT and OTHERS. And pursue a policy beneficial to Russia within the framework of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Observing the results from the outside, the conclusion is obvious: For the benefit and well-being of Russia, Vladimir Putin did much more than Gorbachev and Yeltsin combined. And in comparison with the presidents of other countries, Vladimir Putin compares favorably.

[Svist]

Excuse me, are you a citizen of Russia or Uzbekistan? No, I know that you were born in the USSR (looked at the profile), and yet?

[Finches]

freddyk,
No! I am for Putin. Don’t you find this somewhat illogical, to put it mildly? By the way, another homeless person is much more decent than some oligarchs....

[Sling cutter]

Anyone,
he has no fortune, and in order not to be unfounded, here is a link to the original
https://youtu.be/FVkx5T2DRng

[Radical]

Quote: Finches

So why the hell am I supposed to change one Social Democrat for another? Yes, and I just like Putin more than Grudinin - that's all! GDP is the authority in the world, and, God forbid, they choose Grudinin - that’s how everyone will laugh, changed the brutal KGB-shnik to the strawberry king! And I don’t like to laugh at Russia ...

People have been laughing at Russia since 1991, without stopping! From 1991 to 1999, over a drunkard president, and from 2000 to the present, over an economy that is “developing at an unprecedented pace”... .

[NordUral]

The command is given - "fas" or they voluntarily lie, we don't care. The main thing is the people. People thinking about their grandchildren. If he thinks, we and Grudinin will win. If the fate of your grandchildren doesn’t matter.... think, there is still time to make the right decision. Personally, I will vote for Pavel Grudinin and for the union of all patriotic forces in the country.

[Bulrumeb]

As I understand it, only those who have a louse on a lasso in their pocket should go to the polls, so what?

those who have a “louse on their lasso” cannot even dream of going to the polls.

[mak_sim]

I want to share with people what I found during my interest in Grudinin on the Internet lately from information that was not much advertised. First I will state the facts, then I will evaluate the written facts.

I
Since he is a candidate for presidency of the Russian Federation, I will start not with a biography, but with his presidential plans. Because it is much more important for people.
He did not have his own plan for the future presidency, he took the entire program from the Communist Party party, by the way of which he was not a member (before that he was in United Russia and tried to get into the Liberal Democratic Party, but did not call). He also adds that the program posted now for general viewing is not complete and will be supplemented in the near future. He also does not have his own team, which will have to bring his election program to life, which means he will use the team from the Communist Party.
A few days ago, Zyuganov clarified in an interview about the presidential program of Grudinin. In them he announced a serious limitation of the presidential power in all areas. These restrictions lie in the establishment of the Supreme State Council, without the approval of which no fundamentally important decision of the head of state (Prezident) will be implemented. This structure will include "the largest and most influential figures. In addition, the president will have to coordinate the candidacies of ministers in the State Duma. It is also necessary to simplify the impeachment procedure, the Communists say. Also, no one will have the right to assume the post of president more than twice in his life.
Also, the people will have to resolve the most important social, political and socio-economic issues through a referendum.
Source: https://rg.ru/2017/12/23/ziuganov-predstavil-pred
vybornuiu-programmu-kandidata-ot-kprf.html

II
In Politics, he has long been, since 1997, when he became a deputy of the Moscow Regional Duma. The career of the deputy and member of United Russia ended after a scandalous interview, after which he was accused of inciting ethnic hatred and withdrew the application for the election. Source: http://expert.ru/russian_reporter/2011/43/palniko
laich-imeni-lenina /
In February, the 2014 Supreme Court of the Russian Federation eventually ordered the Moscow Regional Court to re-examine the registration of Grudinin. The Moscow Regional Court has not considered the matter until today, but Grudinin was allowed to register for the elections. In 16 and 17, he was elected from the Communist Party (not being a member of the party) but lost the election. With 2011 Deputy Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry of the Russian Federation for the development of the agro-industrial complex. Since February, 2015 has been on the board of the National Union of Milk Producers. Since 2015, Member of the Public Council under the Ministry of Agriculture of the Russian Federation. Source: http://tass.ru/info/4838426
During my work in politics, I did not find Grudinin’s outstanding achievements on the Internet.
In the “Point of View” program dated September 19.09.2017, XNUMX, he said “a huge number of those who talk about patriotism are trying to take money abroad…..those who call themselves the property of the country spend more money on foreign investments…. In fact, you don’t need to have two ideologies, one for the people and the other for yourself personally.”
Source 12:52 minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=772&a
mp; a
mp; v = vsfLmiB-F4g
Those. Grudinin criticized himself with this statement, because... he scolds everyone for withdrawing money abroad, while he himself does the same, and 7,5 billion is huge money for a medium-sized enterprise like JSC State Farm named after Lenin.

Grudinin submitted his income declaration personally to the Central Election Commission, so I consider all the talk about mistakes, forgery, etc. to be a lie, otherwise why would Grudinin submit obviously false papers?!
Source in the CEC supplement: http://www.cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/do
hod_grudinin.html

In December 2017, he criticized the government, but apparently also himself (since he holds positions in this industry), on the topic of food security. Source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGrJ8V1zZT0


III
He is the owner of 40% ZAO Lenin State Farm, where 40 people are still owners. In 1995, the owners were 525 people. Source: https://www.kp.ru/daily/26774/3808147/
The number of personnel, as of 2002 of the year at CJSC Lenin State Farm was at the rate of 314 people. Source: http://www.list-org.com/company/9532
The size of the company is about two thousand hectares of land in the Moscow region.
The population of the state farm named after Lenin totals 4954 people. Source: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rural_settlement_
State Farm_Names_Lenin
At the moment, for its core activities (production and marketing of agricultural products), Lenin State Farm CJSC is incurring losses (here I deducted administrative and commercial expenses, controversial effect from sales profit, but there are no other data). The remaining revenues, which are an order of magnitude higher, are in the other expenses column and are not related to core business of the company. It turns out the well-being of the company is based on completely different assets than agriculture. Source: https: //zachestnyibiznes.ru/company/ul/1
025000658099_5003009032_ZAO-SOVHOZ-IMENI-LENINA / b
threw
Grudinin sued the defrauded shareholders, but these people failed to win the case, the case was closed, but the people submitted an application to demand an investigation into the theft of shareholders. Source: https://cont.ws/@id373555267/809198

IV
A very cunning move with the name of the enterprise, the owner of which is Grudinin. Because the full name of the JSC is “State Farm named after Lenin”, but in the vast majority of television programs and on the Internet this “trifle” as a JSC is nicely omitted, which creates the illusion that this is a Soviet-type State Farm.
It turns out that the much-hyped kindergarten is paid for by the Moscow region, buying 98 out of 120 places from the kindergarten. For one place the region translates 21800 rubles CJSC State Farm named after Lenin. The school was built a month before the start of the law, in which the state pledged to pay for all private schools in the country. Those. The publicized school is also at the mercy of the state, but the volume of state support is unknown. There are many more facts about rent and government spending for the Lenin State Farm CJSC, all information is in the source.
Source about the kindergarten: http://vidnoe24.ru/news/2013/02/detsky-sad-zamok-
childhood/
Source about rent and salaries: https://cont.ws/@glavbushka/808987

[Captain45]

Quote: mak_sim

Since February 2015 he has been a member of the board of the National Union of Milk Producers.

Why the union of milk producers, and not strawberries? It seems like he grows strawberries in the joint stock company? That’s why we have neither milk nor strawberries.” It’s a disaster if the cake maker starts making boots, and the shoemaker bakes the pies.” I.A. Krylov

[Svist]

And because the company is engaged not only in strawberries, which are a seasonal berry, but also in livestock farming, horticulture and vegetable growing

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Svist

And because the company is engaged not only in strawberries, which are a seasonal berry, but also in livestock farming, horticulture and vegetable growing

The intelligence of Zaputin’s people is simply amazing, I gave a link above to the Sterninsky robotic dairy farm! It’s a no brainer that the strawberry harvest lasts only 2 months, and the rest of the time, the State Farm continues to work on other fruit crops. But apparently only two phrases are crammed into the brain - about 7.5 billion and about strawberries

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Stirbjorn

The intelligence of the Zaputinites is simply amazing

It's interesting about intelligence.

[Captain45]

Quote: Stirbjorn

The intelligence of the Zaputinites is simply amazing,

And I’m generally silent about the intelligence of Georgians. However, it’s stupid to repeat the mantra about - there are no 7,5 billion, you don’t need a lot of intelligence. Any parrot can do it.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Captain45

However, it’s stupid to repeat the mantra about - there are no 7,5 billion, you don’t need a lot of intelligence. Any parrot can do it.

About milk, I hope there are no more questions

[Captain45]

Quote: Stirbjorn

About milk, I hope there are no more questions

Yes, there is no time for milk here, when the strawberries are rotting, but we need to hide 7,5 lards. Damn right with these bloggers, Papa Zyu will get to the bottom of everything, the bastard is silent.

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Quote: Captain45

Quote: Stirbjorn

The intelligence of the Zaputinites is simply amazing,

And I’m generally silent about the intelligence of Georgians. However, it’s stupid to repeat the mantra about - there are no 7,5 billion, you don’t need a lot of intelligence. Any parrot can do it.

Tell me honestly how much you are paid, or are you, like that fool, voluntarily helping thieves and traitors.

[Captain45]

Quote: free

Tell me honestly how much you get paid,

The state pays me the pension I honestly earned, there is nothing else. This is how I tell my father in spirit. And for the fool, when we meet, I will correct your face in the opposite direction, so that you are smart and don’t throw around words about thieves and traitors. If you know what exactly, then justify it and prove it, and if not, then I’m sorry. I’ll ask you in full, for tryndezh.

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Quote: Captain45

Quote: free

Tell me honestly how much you get paid,

The state pays me the pension I honestly earned, there is nothing else. This is how I tell my father in spirit. And for the fool, when we meet, I will correct your face in the opposite direction, so that you are smart and don’t throw around words about thieves and traitors. If you know what exactly, then justify it and prove it, and if not, then I’m sorry. I’ll ask you in full, for tryndezh.

Wow, I'm terrified, well, you can turn it off!

[avva2012]

and tried to get into the LDPR, but they didn’t invite me).
Small lies give rise to big suspicions. Have you spent a lot of time working as a search engine?

[Svist]

Are you talking to me?

Quote: avva2012

and tried to get into the LDPR, but they didn’t invite me).

If he had tried, Zhirinovsky would have accepted him with open arms!

Quote: avva2012

Have you spent a lot of time working as a search engine?

Not really. Whoever wants it will always find it.

[avva2012]

If only, if only.... Seek and ye shall find, as they say. They also say that bees are looking for honey, and...

[Nikolaevich I]

I heard that P. Grudinin was promising to rein in migrants and said to myself: finally (!) my candidate has appeared! Maybe this year, after many years of “abstinence,” I will go to “elect” a president! But...the music didn’t play for long.....not for long....: D. Olshansky’s “note” appears that “everything is the other way around”! On the contrary, Grudinin approves of the influx of migrants! Conclusion: we need to take a serious look at Grudinin... search the Internet for his speeches... .For now it turns out: either he stole, or was stolen from him...

[Stirbjorn]

Well, look, here’s Shevchenko’s interview - where does he talk about the “indigenous population” who don’t want to work?

[Nikolaevich I]

Thank you ! I watched the interview... I listened to Grudinin... "let's cough up" this matter!

[JD1979]

Grudinin, Navalny, Sobchak... and so on and so forth. Do you really want the country to change its course every 5 years? Is the example of Ukraine not enough for you? Or they don’t have enough brains to understand that in the most successful countries (China, USA, etc.) nothing changes from the change of chairman-president-chancellor. And there is no need to shout here that the United States is about to soon, just a little bit and that’s all, will bend - it will not bend, and Russia, among many, will help it not to bend. In Russia, unfortunately, there is no stable development program, and with the new government it changes every time. May be enough?

[Svist]

Quote: JD1979

Is the example of Ukraine not enough for you? Or they don’t have enough brains to understand that in the most successful countries (China, USA, etc.) nothing changes from the change of chairman-president-chancellor. And there is no need to shout here that the United States is about to soon, just a little bit and that’s all, will bend, but will not bend, and Russia, among many, will help it not to bend

Why take Ukraine as an example? There is the same oligarchic system there. Only there are significantly fewer resources, which is why it fell faster. We have this ahead of us. As the people become completely impoverished, so wait. Russian revolt, senseless and merciless...

[NordUral]

JD1979, please don’t confuse you with God’s gift with scrambled eggs.

[mikh-korsakov]

The problem is not that there is a lot of money, but the problem is that he lied.

[Vladimir Vasilich]

Guys, write more and repost EVERYTHING about Grudinin from the Left Front and from Sov.Russia and from the sites of the PDS NPSR and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and a lot of things that are valuable and understandable to people. For example, I print it out and put it in the mailboxes of my neighbors and distribute it to my relatives. Especially those who “Who should we vote for?” with skepticism and indifference. Go and VOTE.

[Svist]

You are interesting people! Honestly! It seems like everyone has been on the site for a long time, they understand each other, but how does an article appear, and what an article there is - a post! And it all starts all over again... And the same arguments are presented with foam at the mouth. Yes, everyone already knows everything, but everyone tries in a new way to convince their opponent, although they understand perfectly well that this will not work. Everyone has already decided, so why all this fuss? Strangers rarely appear here, so who is this whole performance for? I’ve made up my mind, so how can you dissuade me? And others too. Still, there are few schoolboys and exalted ladies here. Mostly people who have seen life from all sides. So why insult each other? I think that the majority are rooting for Russia. Only everyone sees the path of development in their own way. The elections will show. Every people deserves its ruler.

[Tatanka Yotanka]

It’s a sound thought - people can’t decide who is an agent of the State Department)))), Grudinin or the government that Putin supports

[Alexander War]

Presidential elections 2018. Poll https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3938847.htm
l

[Gardamir]

Elections

went and voted. The ratio is slightly different than what the Kremlin imposes.

[Svist]

Although your link gives an error, I got it. Does Life magazine belong to Aram Ashotovich Gabrilyanov? I'm not wrong?
But here the picture is somewhat different, I would say diametrically opposite:
http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Svist

But here the picture is somewhat different, I would say diametrically opposite:
http://president-rf.ru/page/rejting-kandidatov

The site belongs to a couple of individuals from Penza.
On such a site you can draw... just whatever your heart desires.

[Svist]

Seriously? Here are the people... Cutting soles on the move! There is voting, as I understand it, via SMS...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Svist

Seriously?

Absolutely.
There is such a useful website - 2ip.ru. Go in, click on “Information about IP address or domain”, enter the site address, click “Check”.
We study with interest the information that appears on the screen.

[Svist]

I went in, he made a mistake and determined that I was from St. Petersburg, and my provider was Miran.
I entered the voting address - the domain was not found.
I usually test the Internet speed on it.
But thanks anyway. I didn't know this function!

[Victor Demchenko]

Dear, the link is not correct! What does this have to do with elections?

[Gardamir]

The all-Russian social movement Left Front declares support for the candidacy of Pavel Nikolaevich Grudinin in the presidential elections of the Russian Federation, scheduled for March 18, 2018, and calls on its supporters to vote for this candidate. In turn, the Left Front prepared election instructions for Pavel Grudinin, reflecting the political position of the organization. The Left Front expects that these orders will be used by our candidate during the election campaign, and if Grudinin wins the elections, they will be implemented as priority measures by the new leadership of the country. These orders will be conveyed to Pavel Grudinin during a meeting with representatives of the Left Front.

1. The Left Front considers it necessary to change the socio-economic course of development of Russia in order to make the life of a working person worthy, namely:

— gradually build a model of organizing society where every citizen is a co-owner of natural resources and the owner of his share in social capital;

— transfer natural resources and strategic sectors of the economy under state control, making the work of state-owned enterprises transparent and controlled by the public; manage state-owned companies on the basis of a scientifically based planning system in the interests of the whole society; support and develop national enterprises, various forms of cooperation; guarantee sales to domestic producers of agricultural products under long-term agricultural development programs; to begin scientific and industrial projects on widespread automation (demand measurements at points of sale, production, logistics) of certain sectors of the national economy;

— establish full-fledged state control over the work of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation;

continuation https://www.leftfront.org/?p=1969

[Natalia777]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: nadezhiva

In his latest declaration, such amounts were not included. And in the penultimate too.

These amounts are fake, invented litter -tv.
Here is the first person:
https://youtu.be/Ogk0rjzUSns

No need to la-la... Grudinin himself registered these amounts and signed, he keeps 7,5 billion in the Bank of Liechtenstein, which is 47% a private bank and is an elite offshore jurisdiction. http://www.ofxt.ru/tax-havens/liechtenstein/ and material on the CEC website - http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/2.grud
inin_dopolnenie.pdf, download the PDF document to your computer. http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/dohod_
grudinin.html ) - Grudinn himself indicated the Linkhinstein bank.

[Natalia777]

Quote: Lnglr

For Grudinin!
Communist Party, PDS NPSR, Left Front - Go!
Authors of comments like "What will Grudinin give you?" Apparently, they do not quite understand that Grudinin is not going alone, but as part of a team.

His team is good if they didn’t hesitate to slip an avid capitalist from the communists. The communist reputation was directly undermined. Lenin called these people political prostitutes. (I am an ideological communist)

[Rastas]

Was Lenin homeless? Actually, he was one of the nobles, not a poor man. How do you think he became the leader of the Bolsheviks? capitalist, communist, I am interested in the program and the people who stand behind this program. Grudinin is adequate with both the first and second.

[Old]

Quote: Captain45

Well said. I watched their crap, disgrace, they couldn’t connect two words, Pasha Klubnichkin mumbled like a heifer, and Zyu was hiding behind the rules with no regulations and did not really answer.

))) Stirlitz, and I’ll ask you to stay.

[Captain45]

Quote: Old

))) Stirlitz, and I’ll ask you to stay.

Yes, I'm not going anywhere

[Natalia777]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Golovan Jack

Supplements "(where lard) candidate G. filed ... 08.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX.

What kind of lard are we talking about, dear? Well, you, as a child, are not able to read the numbers? What doesn’t beat you.?
There were no lards. THIS IS A FAKE !!!
The candidate himself explained everything, an agent told. BUT
For those in the tank!
from 6.50 the economist will explain everything and explain on the fingers! Locked!

It's not even about the disputed amount of funds. Grudinin lies: “There is no money in offshores and there never was,” and he himself kept money and securities in the Liechtenstein Bank, which is 47% a private bank and is an elite offshore jurisdiction. http://www.ofxt.ru/tax-havens/liechtenstein/ and material on the CEC website - http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/2.grud
inin_dopolnenie.pdf, download the PDF document to your computer. http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/dohod_
grudinin.html ) - Grudinn himself indicated the Linkhinstein bank.

[Svist]

Give me at least one working link!
And Liechtenstein is spelled correctly!

[Freeman]

Quote: Svist

Give me at least one working link!

The links are working, but there is a problem.
After you copy the link into the address bar of your browser, spaces appear between the characters that need to be erased manually.
For example in the given link:
http://cikrf.ru/analog/prezident2018/dohod/2.grud
inin_addition.pdf
When pasting into the address bar, a space appears in the word grud inin - that’s what needs to be erased.
PS. The longer the address, the more such spaces appear.

[Svist]

God bless you! Just thank you, the site writes that in its opinion, such a post does not contain useful information!

[Kirill Popov]

The media misinterpreted the declaration to smear the candidate, and now most people are repeating this lie about 7,5 billion.

Eurobonds are sold in lots of 200 pieces, one bond = $1000 (http://ru.cbonds.info/emissions/issue/25489). If it were necessary to multiply then the declaration would be illegal since the total cost must be indicated. (19 Federal Law On Presidential Elections, Appendix 3, 10 note.)

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Kirill Popov

If it were necessary to multiply then the declaration would be illegal since the total cost must be indicated. (19 Federal Law On Presidential Elections, Appendix 3, 10 note.)

Have you ever seen this Application yourself?
And then there are doubts
Here you go, enjoy:

Now tell me in detail what relation the piece of paper submitted by Grudinin (“Addition”) has to this table and why in this piece of paper

Quote: Kirill Popov

the total cost must be indicated

Be kind

[Natalia777]

Quote: Rastas

Are you oracle That is, you give Russia two ways - or slow decay for 6 years under Putin or the Maidan. Sorry, but your words are a miserable philistinism - to break out, earn, crawl, crawl. With such sentiments, Russia would no longer be there. Grudinin at least a chance to do without shocks in the future just.

Grudinin is precisely designed to hand over Russia to the West on a silver platter. Grudinin is Poroshenko for Russia.

[Gardamir]

surrender Russia to the West

Where are your Putin’s daughters and where are the children of P, N, Grudinin?

[Captain45]

Quote: Gardamir

where are the children of P, N, Grudinin?

Yes, by the way, where are Grudinin’s children? Otherwise, you know, any taxi driver in Moscow will tell you and show you where, with whom Putin’s daughters live, where they work. I’m simply amazed every time I’m in Moscow. Ask anyone, they’ll tell you everything. This is openness, this is transparency. Any taxi driver, hairdresser and janitor know more about the President’s life than he himself. The CIA and Mossad nervously smoke on the sidelines with envy , wiping away snot.

[Gardamir]

By the way

you are a troll my friend! So where are the daughters?..

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Quote: Captain45

Quote: Gardamir

where are the children of P, N, Grudinin?

Yes, by the way, where are Grudinin’s children? Otherwise, you know, any taxi driver in Moscow will tell you and show you where, with whom Putin’s daughters live, where they work. I’m simply amazed every time I’m in Moscow. Ask anyone, they’ll tell you everything. This is openness, this is transparency. Any taxi driver, hairdresser and janitor know more about the President’s life than he himself. The CIA and Mossad nervously smoke on the sidelines with envy , wiping away snot.

So can you tell me?

[Captain45]

Quote: free

So can you tell me?

So why should I be scared to tell? I’m not a Moscow hairdresser, a janitor or a taxi driver. They know everything. And I’m just passing through Moscow, from Domodedovo to Kazansky, once a year, on vacation. Can you tell me what? Judging by the tone of the comments, you are on topic...Look how smartly you write

[your1970]

One son is a businessman (two restaurants, a cafe), and the second works at the Lenin State Farm CJSC as the head of the rental department.
“I looked through Counter-Focus - to P.N. Grudinin, as well as relatives participating with him in economic activities (two sons of A.P. Grudinin (Artem and Anton), I.I. Grudinin - apparently his wife, etc. ) more than a dozen legal entities are affiliated, in particular, for example, TT-Development LLC (TIN 5003073454), Oblinvestcom LLC (TIN 7719832875), Liga LLC (TIN 5003061152), etc. In turn, these legal entities control some subsidiaries, including those related to the "state farm". These are legal entities that the relatives of P.N. Grudinin own or manage. Some are registered in Moscow. All organizations with a decent turnover according to reporting, the type of activity is different, but most often it has something in common with real estate, or with construction.
Let me emphasize once again - this is not part of the activities of the “state farm”, this is a personal family business of members of the Grudinin family. Is this like for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and communist ideology?
In addition, the “state farm” itself exists in at least three legal entities, one of which is an LLC. There is “its own” management company, which, according to 223-FZ, takes contracts from the rural settlement “State Farm named after Lenin”. What I mean is that Grudinin is not a “director of a state farm”, he is a BUSINESSMAN, a beneficiary of a group of companies dealing primarily with real estate.
Anyone can check - I provided the TIN, further down the chain.
Further, if you believe the reporting, then the parent legal entity - its own CJSC - had a creditor of 1,7 BILLION in the previous reporting, with a net profit of less than 400 million, revenue of 900 million, EBIDTA is not very good for the company, so according to the criteria, almost bankrupt."
And this is where the money comes from
Judge Pobedinskaya M.A. Case No. 33-21558/16
APPELLATION
Judicial Collegium for Civil Cases of the Moscow Regional Court
consisting of: presiding Vukolova T.B.,
judges Voronko V.V., Shipilova T.A.,
under secretary A.S. Bychkov,
having considered in open court on August 10, 2016 the appeal of CJSC "State Farm named after Lenin" against the decision of the Vidnovsky City Court of the Moscow Region dated May 16, 2016 in the case of the claim * I.P. to CJSC "State Farm named after Lenin" on the protection of consumer rights,
after hearing the report of judge Voronko V.V.
explanations of G*y I.P., representative of CJSC “State Farm named after Lenin” - Smirnova S.V.,
U S T A N O V I L A:
* I.P. filed a lawsuit against Lenin State Farm CJSC to collect a penalty for untimely transfer of a shared construction project and compensation for moral damages. Referring to the defendant's delay in fulfilling the obligation to transfer the apartment as an object of shared construction, she asked to recover from the defendant a penalty in the amount of 2268723 rubles, compensation for moral damages - 50000 rubles, a fine for failure to voluntarily fulfill the consumer's requirements, expenses for paying for the services of a representative - 15000 rubles.
By a court decision, the claims were partially satisfied: 916129 rubles were recovered from the defendant in favor of the plaintiff. – penalty for violation of the contractual deadline for the transfer of a shared construction project; 38 rub. – compensation for moral damage; 20000 rub. - fine. The issue of reimbursement of legal costs has been resolved.
In the appeal, the defendant asks to cancel the court decision and refuse to satisfy the plaintiff's claims.
Having checked the case materials and discussed the arguments of the appeal, the judicial panel finds the court's decision legal, justified and not subject to change or cancellation.
According to the case materials, on January 27.01.2012, XNUMX, the plaintiff, under an assignment agreement, acquired, as a participant in shared construction, the rights of claim against the defendant in relation to the apartment at the address: <data taken>
The price of the assignment agreement, 6102000 rubles, was paid by the plaintiff.
The deadline for the transfer of the shared construction object specified in the agreement for participation in shared construction - no later than the fourth quarter of 2013 - was violated by the defendant: the apartment was transferred to the plaintiff on July 10.07.2015, XNUMX.
In accordance with Part 1 2, 6 tbsp. 30.12.2004 Federal Law “On participation in shared construction of apartment buildings and other real estate and on amendments to certain legislative acts of the Russian Federation” dated December XNUMX, XNUMX. in case of violation of the deadline for transferring the shared construction project to the participant under the contract, the developer shall pay the participant in the shared construction a penalty in the amount of one three hundredth of the refinancing rate of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation in effect on the day of fulfillment of the obligation, from the contract price for each day of delay. If the participant in shared construction is a citizen, the specified penalty is paid by the developer in double amount.
The court, having correctly calculated the amount of the penalty (916795, 84 rubles), came to the correct conclusion that there were no legal grounds for its reduction in accordance with Article 333 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation.
Compensation for moral damage was correctly determined in the amount of 20000 rubles.
Likewise, the court correctly reduced, in accordance with Article 333 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, the amount of the fine provided for in Article 13 of the Law of the Russian Federation “On the Protection of Consumer Rights” to 20000 rubles.
The court correctly established the circumstances relevant to the case, all the evidence presented was given a proper assessment, the rules of substantive law were correctly applied, and there were no violations of the rules of procedural law.
The appeal does not contain arguments refuting the correctness of the conclusions of the trial court.
Guided by Article 328 of the Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation, the judicial panel
O P R E D E L I L A:
The decision of the Vidnovsky City Court of the Moscow Region of May 16, 2016 was left unchanged, and the appeal of JSC State Farm named after Lenin was not satisfied.
Presiding
Judges

[your1970]

Quote: V. Salama

his 1970: "... the people in VO ... forgot and ... the billionaire + CPRF alliance seems normal ...

This is exactly what is normal, because at VO they must understand that there is a specific logic of struggle. In difficult times for the country, different forces are uniting. This is how the VOSR was carried out and other great revolutions. Then, of course, there was an internal showdown - stupid people call it “the revolution devours its children.” But we still have elections on the horizon, not a revolution. Everything is democratic and evolutionary, we hope it will continue to be so. Moreover, there is no driving force for the revolution now. And we must remember that these are not the times of the USSR, when there was a single ideology and we voted for a person who forgot how to think correctly. Now we need to vote for the Program (project) that satisfies us and at the same time for the person who is ready to implement this project. Stalin also said: I have no other ministers... And with the help of those who were successful in solving problems.

-just read his program
on the one hand, he promises to lower taxes, reduce housing and communal services and other blah-blah, on the other hand, he promises to increase spending on defense/education/medicine. Where will he get the money?
You can shake off the oligarchs once - by taking everything away from them, the corrupt officials (as he promises) will quickly end...
A small example - “will cancel contributions for major repairs”. Great!! but there is a nuance - all the apartments in the house belong to the residents, it is their property. At whose expense will it be renovated - if not at the expense of the owners? For the budget? And why are you scared - the house - it’s your own, not municipal!!!!

[Svist]

Quote: your1970

You can shake off the oligarchs once - by taking everything away from them, the corrupt officials (as he promises) will quickly end...

Progressive tax, nationalization of mineral resources. Now Gazprom sells gas to its subsidiaries at a reduced price, from which it pays taxes to the budget. But the margin from sales abroad goes into your pocket.

Quote: your1970

.At whose expense should it be repaired, if not at the expense of the owners? For the budget? And why the fright - it’s your own house, not a municipal one!!!!

For your own, probably, but when it is necessary and not without address.

[Captain45]

Quote: Svist

Quote: your1970
.At whose expense should it be repaired, if not at the expense of the owners? For the budget? And why the fright - it’s your own house, not a municipal one!!!!

For your own, probably, but when it is necessary and not without address

According to the current Housing Code, the residents of the house have the right to open a bank account and transfer funds there for current and major repairs of the house and manage them independently. It’s just that calling them to a meeting and choosing a manager from among the residents is somewhat problematic. Everything seems to be in favor, but as for the matter, then everything is like a mouse in a hole and you can’t get it out.

[your1970]

Quote: Svist

Progressive tax, nationalization of mineral resources. Now Gazprom sells gas to its subsidiaries at a reduced price, from which it pays taxes to the budget. But the margin from sales abroad goes into your pocket.

- budget revenues in the amount of 62% are provided by customs, taxation provides only 20%....
Of the 62%, approximately 73% is the export duty on hydrocarbons, in this situation it is not even interesting whether Gazprom sells gas to its subsidiaries at a reduced price or not - it’s still pennies compared to the duties paid

[Freeman]

own1970 Today, 17: 27
You can get rid of the oligarchs once - by taking everything away from them

In my opinion, he is going to take away their businesses that generate income.
And live on this income, and not taxes and excise taxes on this income (which in total are less than this income).

I generally do not understand the logic of privatization of state property. It turns out that profitable enterprises are given up in pursuit of short-term benefits, which in the end turn out to be much less than the income that will be received in the long term.

[Natalia777]

Quote: Bulrumeb

As I understand it, only those who have a louse on a lasso in their pocket should go to the polls, so what?

those who have a “louse on their lasso” cannot even dream of going to the polls.

You misunderstood. A citizen who has property abroad does not have the right to vote. Grudinin kept his shares and money in the offshore bank Linkhinstein, which further aggravated the situation. Offshores help evade taxes.

[Svist]

Are you smarter than the members of the Central Election Commission who found no violations? Linkhinstein... THERE IS NO SUCH WORD!!!

[Freeman]

Quote: Svist

Linkhinstein... THERE IS NO SUCH WORD!!!

Do not be nervous.
Otherwise, now you will have to explain why they sometimes write Iraq or Iran?
What does this depend on? N or K? After all, it happens that they write this way and that way.
Or why is Baden-Baden written twice? It’s not clear at first?

[Ivan Ivanov]

In the first days of the nomination, a vote was held on Vesti FM, Putin scored 50, Grudinin 45. Solovyov: “wow, oh, wow, yes, well, probably because it was on my show yesterday, such an effect.” He doesn’t have 7.5 billion, the cost of all securities is indicated, there is no need to multiply by 200

[Natalia777]

Quote: Svist

Excuse me, are you a citizen of Russia or Uzbekistan? No, I know that you were born in the USSR (looked at the profile), and yet?

I am a citizen of Russia. I work in Uzbekistan.

[Svist]

Thank you for your reply!

[Klaus]

Of course, there was a general howl in the media: Grudinin directly said that channels, publishing houses and resources should live within their means. There are too many propagandists on generous pay: they go on vacation in Europe, and have villas... for our money, mind you. Under Grudinin, these loafers will end their lives. So they got up, they were sick...

[82т11]

Quote: Klaus

Of course, there was a general howl in the media: Grudinin directly said that channels, publishing houses and resources should live within their means. There are too many propagandists on generous pay: they go on vacation in Europe, and have villas... for our money, mind you. Under Grudinin, these loafers will end their lives. So they got up, they were sick...

I can just see how officials, following Grudinka’s example, will drag the stolen goods back to Russia)
Oh sorry, Brisket keeps his money abroad, so no return of wealth is canceled ((

[Ivan Ivanov]

I’ve already spoken more than once at press conferences about money abroad, and the CEC has no complaints about him.

[cedar]

Quote: Gardamir

The masses also support Putin

May your Putin come to the debate, will the people support him for a long time after these debates?

Unlike other applicants, he has something to do. The country has been at war for several years, if you noticed...

[Svist]

Well, he’ll miss some Gaidar forum, the elections are more important...

[zyzx]

When will the economy be built?

[Gardamir]

The country has been at war for several years now

With whom? God forbid you find out what war is!

[Victor Demchenko]

Why don’t I know there’s a war going on? Abidna, understand! maybe I could go fight somewhere....

[cedar]

Quote: BABAY22

Do you think that everything is so primitive? What was he supposed to oversee and supervise Sobchak in the major epaulettes of the Leningrad City Council (and Sobchak then methylated as president of the USSR)? And for shoulder straps at that time in Leningrad one could easily get in the face in the street.
Conclusion. There are no former KGB officers, especially in the position of President of Russia. And exceptions to this rule suddenly leave this world.

Here! And Pasha, who is very far from the intelligence community, will become, if he has not already become an easy prey for her, they will recruit his poor fellow... Pasha kept his security in the wrong bank. That bank handed over the entire file on its clientele to the Americans...fool.
Do not go children to Africa for a walk ...

[erased]

And many networks really support Grudinin. But the main thing is that there is not just one candidate, there is a powerful team! There are specialists, there is a program, there are plans on how to implement it! This is the future of the country! So... there will be a new president soon. Real!

[82т11]

Where does the collective farm director get a powerful team? Or now, like in 1917, every cook can rule the country?
Here is an empty city, then the district, then the governorate. And we’ll see what kind of person he is, and so from rags to riches(

[Klaus]

You probably forgot that our army is the successor of the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army. The same one that overthrew Hitler in 45, and whose birthday the current authorities so bashfully conceal is February 23rd. Where does such disdain for the worker and collective farmer come from? They built a great country with hard work, but what have you done for the country?

[mak_sim]

only now the entire general staff of the Russian Empire transferred to our Workers' and Peasants' Red Army.
And disdain and disgust from the heads of collective and state farms has already been firmly instilled in all Russians. Read the story and find out.

[sapporo1959]

Judging by some comments, new additions have clearly appeared in the camp of the Russian enemies. Even the State Department has faded into the background with Navalny against the backdrop of this new unruly enemy who is not allowing us, under the leadership of Putin and his team, to rise from our knees to our full height. He broke through, you know, under the slogans everything was for the people, and he started writing about this enemy. With such slogans he won’t last long with us!

[Svist]

Quote: sapporo1959

not allowing us, under the leadership of Putin and his team, to rise from our knees to our full height

Are we in the doggy style position now?

[Stevev]

Quote: Svist

Quote: sapporo1959

not allowing us, under the leadership of Putin and his team, to rise from our knees to our full height

Are we in the doggy style position now?

Don't speak for everyone, this is just your position

[Victorio]

Strawberries can't rise like that

[Anyone]

Quote: Abracadabrus

And if Mr. Skomorokhov really wanted to do an “objective” review of the press, then he should have talked not about money, but
- about how the "comrade" Grudinin took over the land plots of collective farmers (courts still go on);
- about how collective farm land was sold at a surprisingly low price;
- about how agricultural land is leased for warehouses and shopping centers;
- about how Moscow retail chains refused to take the products of Lenin State Farm CJSC, suspecting it of Turkish origin, and Grudinin could not document the opposite;
- about how locals in this amazing "state farm" are sitting without work, while the police catch illegal immigrants working on the fields of the ZAO.
And about much more.

Everything that you have repeated only says that he is an ordinary Russian businessman. This is how our entire business works))

[cedar]

Quote: Svist

Do you even understand the word offshore? Bank Linhinshtein, as you put it (you must understand that this is the Bank of Liechtenstein) is not an offshore. I explain for women in Uzbekistan:
Offshore is a company registered by foreign nationals in a country with a favorable tax climate, not conducting active activities in this country.

They forgot to add - “And subject to the laws of the country and the tax service of this country...” In a word, these are the patriots of this offshore...

[ROM1077]

so what, offshore, and you know that if you don’t hide the money there, raiders will come running with a court decision and take away both the company and the accounts. in Russia no one is immune from this

[Terenin]

It is too early to talk about the list of candidates for the Russian presidency in the upcoming elections. But the winner is already known.
Or this: - Who do you think will win the elections?
- Ours, of course!
-Who is “ours”?
- Whoever wins is ours...

©

[vfqjh]

I don't want to get into a debate with anyone, foaming at the mouth. I will express my own opinion, and it is this - V.V. Putin will be president, but remember that he also came from nowhere (have you heard much about him before he became his successor?). He has a deadline, who's next? I am already over 60, in this life I only hear promises from everyone - tomorrow will be better, you hang in there... They promised communism, they promised abundance, etc. and so on. They said stagnation about Brezhnev, but what now? Swamp !!! Look carefully at why we are successful in foreign policy? The team is strong - Lavrov, Shoigu!!! And then it went on and on... It shouldn't continue like this. I am for Grudinin!

[ROM1077]

Grudinin is the only independent candidate

[82т11]

The author is burning 7,5 billion, this is not money)))
A candidate from the Communist Party is a businessman with foreign accounts!! It's obvious that he's a patriot))
Are you sure he hasn’t forgotten the money somewhere else?)

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Finches

Therefore, I will not change anything and I will not - personally I am satisfied with the GDP at 100%!

But only 50% of me, so what? So many “like-minded people” have settled around him, exporting their profits, that GDP growth is only 2%, and this is with our natural and human resources?!

[NordUral]

Then you are one of his thieving pack.

[Gardamir]

At the moment, there is a voting on the Kassada website in LJ, there are two winners. Putin with 46% and Grudinin with 22%. In third place is some Zhirinovsky with 2,6%

[NordUral]

And there are others:
http://мой-президент.рф
Grudinin - 77,12%
Putin - 15,98
voted - 20739
There is also: http://prezidet-rf.ru
Grudinin - 57,69%
Putin - 29,81%
Voted - 112577

[Stevev]

Very funny site. Does not allow you to vote. Then where do these numbers in the ratings come from? Did they really draw it?

[starshina78]

I will not say in which city, in which polling station, my friend has been on the election commission since Soviet times. Well, active woman! So I will find out with her a week, ten days before the elections, who will win and with what percentage. In all elections of federal, regional and city significance, her words differed from the final result by 1-3%. She herself said that this is only possible if voter turnout is low. Then everyone who did not come “votes”. Even those who are in the grave are still on the voter lists. The command comes from above. Here's some food for thought for you.

[Captain45]

Quote: starshina78

I won’t say in which city, in which polling station, my friend has been on the election commission since Soviet times

Well don't say The less you know the better you sleep.

[NordUral]

Good information, it’s just a pity that it doesn’t reach those who don’t go to the polls.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: starshina78

I will not say in which city, in which polling station, my friend has been on the election commission since Soviet times. Well, active woman! So I will find out with her a week, ten days before the elections, who will win and with what percentage. In all elections of federal, regional and city significance, her words differed from the final result by 1-3%. She herself said that this is only possible if voter turnout is low. Then everyone who did not come “votes”. Even those who are in the grave are still on the voter lists. The command comes from above. Here's some food for thought for you.

Well, nothing, every year the elections become more and more transparent, but the economic prospects are drowning in the fog of liberal capitalism, which suits those who rule the state quite well.

[mult-65]

I am for Grudinin.

[NordUral]

It's nice that not all foremen are bots! And not only you are for Pavel Grudinin:
And I am among them. I wish the same for the majority of Russian citizens.

[Stevev]

The site is murky. Organized by private individuals from Penza. Admin can draw anything

[mak_sim]

Here is an analysis of all Grudinin’s mistakes about billions and “bad” journalists

[Klaus]

Let him tell you about his villa and accounts in Italy first. He will also announce the salary. ...He's still a patriot...

[businessv]

Solovyov, it seems, also decided to check in? You also need to be able to talk about the same thing for half an hour, but in different ways!

[NordUral]

The most experienced gentleman in the oldest profession.

[NordUral]

As a foreman, then you can only go to Solovyov.

[ROM1077]

and I'll vote for brisket

[Terenin]

Judging by the comments, give us any candidate, even a “golden” one, we’ll still “tear” him to pieces and accuse him of all sins But we ourselves are “saints”

[mak_sim]

not just saints, but martyred saints!

There’s no point in running for president if you have something to hide and are afraid of annoying journalists.

[Klaus]

If annoying journalists have a selfish interest, then I assure you: they will find something from any person. This is the job.

[onix757]

That's right, because only babies are sinless)

[Terenin]

I agree, this is their (the journalists’) job, especially since now one order is more expensive than the other and is designed to cause a great public outcry in society, and we on the forum are part of society. And away we go...

[the same doctor]

Unfortunately, the “holy” beggar fireman has no chance to even register. It is not holiness that should be demanded from a candidate, but an assessment of his program and the likelihood of its implementation. Moreover, all other candidates according to the criterion of “holiness” are much worse.

[Freeman]

Quote: Terenin

Judging by the comments, give us any candidate, even a “golden” one, we’ll still “tear” him to pieces and accuse him of all sins

Well, just like in the joke

God decided to correct things in Russian medicine and got a job as a district doctor in the clinic. He comes to the reception, the first patient comes to him - a paralytic in a wheelchair. God lays his hands on his head and says: get up and go. He got up and went. He goes into the corridor, there is a line to the street, they ask him:
- Well, how's the new one?
- Yes, like all of them - I didn’t even measure my blood pressure

.

[businessv]

Anyone,
The nationalization of the family plot, even for Soviet times, was a little excessive, but the land in Cuba belongs to the state, so it was a necessity, not a nice gesture. I think there was a joke about Grudinin’s personal savings? It looks like the ATU team passed, otherwise how can we explain the endless attacks in the press? And he is not an oligarch at all, in the classical interpretation of the word. I will also be for him, our First will pass anyway!

[onix757]

That's where the couple is, based on experiments on peoples

[flicker]

There are similarities, I also noticed
Very muddy type

[Quant]

It’s always touching when, supposedly, fellow citizens start for peace, and then bring punishment according to the magnetic law. There is nothing to explain to such a person. And here’s another thing about the opposition, and blowing someone else’s tune. Again the creatures began to be paid. Track cash receipts, and execute to the fullest. Both for subversive activities and for tax evasion. Just like in their beloved America. Here is another topic - a country caught in undermining the financial condition of Russia must be punished. Everything is watered. transmissions must begin and end with this Carthage. Return of investments in someone else's economy in the form of an ultimatum.

[Alexy]

Quote: zoolu350

Less than 300000 rubles a month is the people, and more is unlikely. Grudinin not only from the Communist Party, but also from a wide range of other patriotic forces.

What are the evaluation criteria???

[the same doctor]

The hating movement never won victories. In fact, a lot of people don’t trust Grudinin yet and will vote against it. Among the 9 members of my family, I am for him, my grandmother is against him, and the rest don’t even know or don’t trust him. While he is muttering something inaudibly, the media is instilling in each group of voters a corresponding story that causes disgust towards the candidate. Grudinin needs to think very carefully about his program of action so that it meets the interests of the country and satisfies the majority of the electorate. And hurry up with its propaganda, because it is very difficult, if not impossible, to convince people who already have emotional hostility...
.
It is a pity that the candidate does not have a website to collect thoughts and appeals from the population, or any other channel of direct communication with voters. This alone already characterizes him in a bad light, as the same as the current celestials.

[SEER]

Quote: Klaus

Let him tell you about his villa and accounts in Italy first. He will also announce the salary. ...He's still a patriot...

what does this have to do with it???
Solovyov did not hide his villa at all.
you remind me of Armenian radio...