Memorial plaque to Admiral Kolchak installed in St. Petersburg

November 13, 2016 601

A plaque to Alexander Kolchak, one of the leaders of the White movement during the civil war, was installed yesterday in St. Petersburg, reports RIA News.

“The board is a plate with a height of 1 meter and a width of 1,9 meter, it is installed on the oriel of the 3 house along Bolshaya Zelenin Street. The inscription on the board reads: “An eminent Russian officer, scientist and researcher Alexander Vasilyevich Kolchak lived in this house from 1905 to 1912 for a year,” the agency reported from the scene.

According to him, “locals take pictures of the memorial on mobile phones, with the majority of respondents refer to the perpetuation of Kolchak’s memory with caution and expect provocations and attacks by vandals,” as happened with the recently dismantled board of Karl Mannerheim.

Earlier, the initiator of the installation of the memorial sign of the White Case Memorial Educational Center reported that the governor of St. Petersburg signed an order to install the board in February of 2015. However, the Internet began collecting signatures for the cancellation of the order. The petition said that "this initiative is a political gesture aimed at justifying mass killings during the years of white terror and dictatorial methods of government."

Then the White Movement reported that the installation of the board was “postponed indefinitely” until all necessary approvals were received.

“Alexander V. Kolchak (1874-1920) - Russian military and political figure, naval commander, oceanographer, polar explorer. During the Civil War was one of the leaders of the White movement, he served as supreme commander of the Russian army. On the night of 6 on 7 February 1920, he was shot by order of the Irkutsk Military Revolutionary Committee "- reminds agency.

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Sergey S.

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13 November 2016 22: 25

Quote: Freeman
The governor doesn't care. He is an appointed person, not an elected one.

How to know, how to know ....
1. Freeman
  
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  14 November 2016 07: 38
  
  Sergey S. Yesterday, 22:25
  Quote: Freeman
  The governor doesn't care. He is an appointed person, not an elected one.
  How to know how to know...
  
  Somehow our Sobyanin doesn’t really care about this. Then he expands paid parking (and now plans to raise the prices for them) with the destruction of free ones. Then the night of “long buckets” suits when, after the demolition of an “incorrectly built” shopping center, construction of a “correct” one immediately begins in its place.
romandostalo

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13 November 2016 22: 36

There is no need to mix Kolchak with Mannerheim, they are completely different people, but in general I don’t want to take part in this discussion at all! And I approve of the memorial plaque to Kolchak!
1. Flatter
  
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  13 November 2016 23: 08
  
  Then you will not be able to explain why Israel spent half a century catching the chief physician of Auschwitz, Mengele, who was declared a criminal, because some of the methods he worked out on defenseless prisoners are used in modern medicine. And you won’t see memorial plaques to him.
  1. aybolyt678
    
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    13 November 2016 23: 29
    
    Dachau is an exclusively medical concentration camp... There was even an order for all concentration camps to send identical twins there for the purity and accuracy of the experiments
aybolyt678

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13 November 2016 23: 27

Ivan Slavyansky,
The biggest tragedy is that people in the war died and killed believing in what they were fighting for.
aybolyt678

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13 November 2016 23: 53

I think that we should not scold Kolchak for his military activities to impose discipline, we did not live at that time, and there is no need to interfere with our modern concepts at that time.. The Reds also fought with the people, Question: how to prevent a repetition??? They are monuments for this purpose and monuments to preserve memory
1. Ilja2016
  
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  14 November 2016 07: 49
  
  Now, if you had ended up in Kolchak’s counterintelligence, they would have spoken differently
2. free
  
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  14 November 2016 10: 20
  
  who and what do you want to preserve the memory of?
regsSSSR

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14 November 2016 00: 43
For the Russian Federation, this is a kind of precedent, since a character has been “immortalized” who, from the point of view of modern Russian legislation, is an unrehabilitated war criminal, which has been confirmed by Russian courts. For the fools, once again - not Soviet, but Russian. But who cares if the tasks of historical revanchism require bringing such characters to the surface, copying the example of fraternal Ukraine. In this regard, the Russian “Banderaites” are not very different from the Ukrainian ones, the heroes are different, but the essence is the same and the goals are completely identical! https://kprf.ru/history/soviet/160040.html the article itself is taken from here http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/3065107.html
#comments
1. Orionvit
  
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  14 November 2016 11: 21
  
  My personal opinion. The monuments that were erected before us are history, and destroying them is vandalism. Regardless of our attitude towards them. But those current attempts to immortalize some individuals whose activities are controversial, from the point of view of current society, are an undisguised attempt to rewrite history. In Russia to Manerheim and Kolchak, in Ukraine to Bandera and Shukhevych. Same.
Freeman

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14 November 2016 01: 25
Inok10,
Inok10 Today, 00:34
... Don’t you want to first put up memorials for the Oslyable and Peresvet Orthodox War Monks?

A monument to Saint Alexander (Peresvet) was erected in the village of Borisoglebsky
Borisoglebsky (Yaroslavl region), September 30, 2005

Monument to Alexander Peresvet in Bryansk, Russia
Manul

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14 November 2016 02: 09

Inok10,
Why are you so nervous? We’ll give it to both Dmitry Donskoy and Mamaia.
... You can find a place for everyone if you try. Kolchak is the opposite of the “Red Menace”. When it comes to the tablets of the Battle of Kulikovo (for which I strongly advocate, and I will personally bury all the fabulists who began to claim that there was no such thing in the swamp), then we will discuss it. But now the question is about the Whites and Reds. Fuck you up!
osoboye_mneniye

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14 November 2016 02: 38

Here's an unclear question...
The procedure for approving the installation of monuments on the territory of St. Petersburg involves collegial discussion, in particular, through taking into account the opinion of the Public Chamber and consideration of applications at the art section of the Urban Planning Council under the city government.
And then every time, out of the blue, the governor signed it, the governor didn’t sign it... This is already a shoddy analysis.
And when there were public hearings, why were they silent?
A very strange situation, both with the previous board and with this one.
Orionvit

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14 November 2016 07: 40

Ivan Slavyansky,
A citizen who has never been Slavic, learn history, helps a lot.
The red bastard was the scum that betrayed and sold great Russia.
Such statements can only be made by a complete layman, who generally does not know how many revolutionary parties there were in Russia on the eve of the revolution. Starting with all sorts of essayists of various kinds, and ending with anarchists and cadets. Moreover, the Bolsheviks were not the most influential. Who carried out the February Revolution and forced the Tsar to abdicate the throne? Bolsheviks? In the wake of the revolution, so many scum surfaced that simply tore Russia apart, and only the Bolshevik party found the strength to take power and restore order. And now the descendants of that evil spirit that destroyed the old empire are pouring dirt on those who, in spite of everything, through heroic efforts, built a new empire, against which the entire West could only clatter its teeth. Don’t think that I’m a strong fan of the Bolsheviks, but at that time Russia simply had no other alternative, and the Bolsheviks, at the very least, managed. Moreover, in such a way that in 15 years Russia reached the same level as the world capitalist powers, won the most terrible war, then rebuilt the destroyed economy, and so on point by point. It is clear that not everything was smooth, but “dear” Ivan Slavyansky (which I personally doubt), drink your own poison.
Ilja2016

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14 November 2016 07: 42

Again they hang boards for criminals
Orionvit

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14 November 2016 07: 47

Quote: vorobey
an ordinary memorial plaque - and where did you get the idea that your attitude towards this person is truly correct

The attitude towards a person is determined by his actions. Kolchak remained in people’s memory not as an Arctic explorer, but as a man who plunged the east of Russia into a bloody massacre. Just like Manerheim, not a Russian general, but an accomplice of Hitler.
1. murriou
  
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  30 December 2016 20: 00
  
  By the way, both as an Arctic explorer and in all other deeds sung by his fans, Kolchak also did not show his best side. But in his reports he knew how to fool his brains.
Baloo

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14 November 2016 08: 22

Simpsonian,

There was a civil war going on. It was necessary to restore industry and defend sovereignty. There were agents of influence not only among the Bolsheviks. Western services actively worked against Russia. Savinkov wrote for British intelligence a list of people whom he personally knew and who could be influenced. The list ended up in the Cheka - that's the matter of the industrial party, that is, the British cleverly pushed the Cheka to repress the intelligentsia. A historian could give many such examples. For example, what do we know about the KGB conspiracy of 1927? Blyumkin, in one program on Russian radio there is an interesting version of the assassination attempt on Mirbach. French intelligence captain Lefebvre became friends with Blumkin and leaked dirt on Mirbach’s nephew. Blumkin blackmailed Mirbach, and then something went wrong? The Trotskyist Blumkin was dumped by his Chekist wife, who calmly lived to a ripe old age and did not share any sympathy for Trotsky. Lefebvre died of old age in 1942. in Paris, did not participate in the resistance. My grandfather, the son of enemies of the people, went through the entire war, a simple laborer (as recorded in the origin column), he joined the party during a break between battles at the front. The fault of his parents is that they created a cooperative in the village, organized people, and gave them jobs during the NEP. There was a class struggle going on. The executioners themselves became victims, but not all of them. More than half my life ago I was dealing with a complaint. Each paragraph began with the words: comrade first secretary of the regional committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Belarus..., comrade chief prosecutor.... This crazy old galosh got used to scribbling from a young age, and can’t stop.
Stalin mercilessly purged the agents, but innocent people also died. As my father used to say, it was the talkers who suffered the most. We have the right to condemn those times, but we must also admit that without the mobilizing and organizing role of the communists, Russia would have been destroyed, like Yugoslavia is now, like the skin of Ukraine is being divided.
At that time, everyone made their choice in accordance with their inner conviction. Some went to fight the Bolsheviks, others rebuilt the country. The Bolsheviks turned out to be the only force capable of taking power and responsibility for the fate of the country.
1. Simpsonian
  
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  15 November 2016 16: 41
  
  I knew it - not a single Russian name...
ghby

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14 November 2016 09: 19

Quote: Ivan Slavyansky
The red bastard was the scum that betrayed and sold great Russia.
minus to you for your incomprehensible fantasies.
ksv36

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14 November 2016 09: 25

insular,
It's not the "whites" or the "reds" who are to blame. the Jews are to blame for everything, and the people were like sheep in a fold. The same thing is happening with Ukraine. And they want to stir this up here.
free

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14 November 2016 10: 17

and again in St. Petersburg? You see more traitors there than anywhere else. And as for Kolchak, it’s a dog’s death for a dog, bite the bastards and they will tear down your shameful boards, just as shameful as you yourself are the scum of humanity!
zoolu300

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14 November 2016 16: 45

Everyone is hungry for these oligarchic bread-crunch scum. As soon as they got rid of the memorial plaque for Hitler's henchman, they already hung a plaque for the Entente henchman. Smash their heads with these boards.
Baloo

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14 November 2016 17: 11

XODOP,
Just like in Banderia, those who now join the Armed Forces of Ukraine are those who have no work, no means of subsistence, lumpens. Or am I wrong?
D2402K

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14 November 2016 19: 47

The same fate awaits this board as Manerheim's board. Since people are different, there are supporters and opponents of Kolchak’s actions. He acted as he saw fit. He was simply a supporter of the current government and opposed the Bolsheviks, and besides, he deserves a plaque for his actions in the navy in World War I and the exploration of the Arctic.
RUSS

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14 November 2016 20: 54
The bastards have already poured paint on the board, the ghouls are learning from the crests
1. Cat man null
  
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  14 November 2016 21: 01
  
  Quote: RUSS
  The bastards have already poured paint on the board, the ghouls are learning from the crests
  
  - Well, why immediately swear?
  - some people like Kolchak, and they screwed up the board...
  - others don’t like Kolchak, and they painted over the board...
  - democracy in action, no?
2. zoolu300
  
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  15 November 2016 05: 28
  
  Well done St. Petersburg people. And don’t compare them with banderlogs. The first are demolishing the monuments that were erected by our (and theirs too) ancestors, and here is a reaction to a fresh bread-crunch provocation.
3. Djuma-13
  
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  17 November 2016 21: 33
  
  ...those interested in the history of their country did this, by the way, correctly!
Former battalion commander

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14 November 2016 22: 58

The Russians blame the Ukrainians for Bandera, but they themselves will either open the board to Mannerheim or to Kolchak! And both of them let in a lot of Russian blood... So, after this, think that Moscow and Kyiv are equally inadequate...
1. Cat man null
  
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  14 November 2016 23: 01
  
  Quote: Former battalion commander
  So, after this, think that Moscow and Kyiv are equally inadequate
  
  - Excuse me, what does all this have to do with you?
  - By the way, is the flag real or drawn?
  - but there are doubts
kuzeva

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15 November 2016 06: 49

Well, first bring back the November 7th holiday and then condemn Kolchak
Sergey S.

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16 November 2016 20: 02

I tried to comment on the board on the body of the St. Petersburg website http://topspb.tv/news/news117758/
Here's what happened:

Комментарии (3)
14.11.2016, 19: 37
Sergey S.
Summing up what is known about Kolchak, we get a negative result. The desire to become famous in the Arctic expedition is not balanced by the bloody white terror under his leadership ... In addition, as far as I know, Kolchak is a war criminal who was denied rehabilitation.
14.11.2016, 20: 22
Nikita Andreevich
Mr. Sergey S., study history, there was no trial of Kolchak, he was shot on the orders of the Irkutsk Political Council, and this is not a judicial measure, forgive, and considering this a war criminal is an erroneous opinion.
14.11.2016, 20: 24
Eugene
There was no trial over Kolchak. He is not a war criminal. He is a scientist, researcher and did not seek to become famous in the Arctic expeditions. Hero of Russia. Enough to produce a lie Sergey S.
[i] [/ i]

The first comment for the seed went.
And when he tried to insert another comment indicating the facts of refusal of rehabilitation, the attempts were ignored by the moderator. Posts did not appear ...

These are not even double standards. This is an information war of white bandits against the people.
Loki_2

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18 November 2016 10: 11

I do not understand:
Kolchak is unrehabilitated, i.e. criminal.
Is it possible to erect monuments to criminals in the Russian Federation? Let's first rehabilitate him and then declare him a hero. But somehow it turns out wrong. With a cross, but without panties...