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Riyadh is ready to offer Moscow major investments and cooperation with the monarchies of the Persian Gulf. But not just like that. The Saudis will give the Kremlin money only if the latter gives up their stubborn support for Bashar al-Assad. The Saudi Foreign Minister reported this in an interview with Politico. In his opinion, the days of Assad are still “numbered”, and the Russians should hurry with a profitable “deal”.



In the interview "Politico" (Brussels) Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir (who, incidentally, was educated in the West and fluent in American English and German) advised never to write off Saudi Arabia. He made it clear that change is now coming in the diplomacy of the ultraconservative kingdom.

While in Brussels, Al-Jubeir announced the kingdom’s commitment to moving from an oil strategy in the economy to “diversity” and expressed a desire to attract foreign investment into the country. True, all changes will occur "gradually." And yet the kingdom will now be more open to business than before. Among other things, Al-Jubeir pointed out opportunities for investors in the mining industry, defense, solar energy, tourism and entertainment (Brussels journalists questioned the last two points, recalling the "Puritan rules of the Wahhabi version of Islam").

The minister arrived in Belgium on the eve of the first anniversary of the West’s nuclear deal with Iran, which led to the lifting of sanctions against Tehran (in January). He met with the head of the EU foreign affairs agency, Mrs. Mogherini. His message to the EU was clear: Saudi Arabia should not be removed from the possibility of any negotiations on the future of Syria. Despite Iranian and Russian support for the regime in Damascus, it would be wrong to think, as some people in Europe do, that Assad has a political future in Syria, al-Jubeir noted.

As for Moscow, the minister noted that Saudi Arabia is ready to cooperate with its “brother” in oil production. Russia, which fell under EU sanctions “because of the annexation of Crimea in 2014,” could have access to the GCC market (Gulf Cooperation Council of the Arab States), and a large package of investments, which would turn out to be more possible investments of China. For Moscow, "it would be reasonable" to promote relations with the Saudis, the minister said, and not with Assad.

With Moscow’s cooperation with Riyadh, the latter promises to give the first a “share” in the Middle East: “We are ready to give Russia a share in the Middle East, which will make Russia more powerful than even the Soviet Union was.”

Saudi leaders know that Vladimir Putin wants to gain a foothold in the Middle East again.

The days of Assad are “numbered,” the foreign minister said, so “make a deal before it's too late.”

Probably, let us add that such an obvious proposal made by Russia, albeit through a Brussels-based newspaper, is part of the strategy, which al-Jubeir told Belgian journalists. The development strategy is calculated to 2030 year and compiled by Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the influential son of King Salman. According to Al-Jubeira, the second foreign minister in stories Sadovskaya Arabia, which does not belong to the royal family, economic reforms should go in parallel with social transformations in the country. He also believes that, despite the rise of Iran, the decline in oil prices and the actions of the IG militants, the West should not underestimate the influence of the kingdom and its stability. Saudi Arabia has experienced 1950's regional upheavals, 1970 upheavals, the harsh times of suppression of dissent in their homeland and, finally, the Arab spring of 2011. The kingdom will endure everything. Therefore, you should never write off Saudi Arabia.

Statements with proposals to Russia for their brazenness go beyond all limits, but from the point of view of the Saudis there is nothing shameful about them, says Nikolai Sukhov, an employee of the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences. “If you call a spade a spade, then Al-Jubeir offered Russia to sell its ally for a specific amount of money. Let not for thirty dinars, and Assad is far from Christ. But the very thought that Moscow will be ready to consider such a proposal is an insult unheard of, ”said the expert. Reedus.

According to the expert, in Riyadh and did not think to humiliate Russia with such a proposal. This is the Saudi mentality: they are used to buying anything in the Middle East. True, the Saudi diplomat did not take into account that Russia is not the Middle East and does not trade for money with its allies, I'm sure Sukhov.

“For the second decade, the Saudis are“ rolling up ”to Russia with proposals that are more attractive to one another, he says. “But in return, at the same time, they require such steps, to which no country preserving its reputation will agree. Generally, about Riyadh, a long-standing opinion has emerged in the world as about “kings of garbage”, and after talking with their representatives, foreign politicians sometimes want to wash their hands ”. In addition, with one hand offering Russia “insane economic benefits,” with the other hand, the Saudis are sending extremist preachers to its territory.

Talks about the promises of Saudi Arabia in exchange for concessions are not the first decade. Believe this is not worth it, warns the expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies Konstantin Makienko. According to him that lead "Vedomosti", Saudi Arabia lured Russia in the mid-2000s with a “carrot” in the form armory deals. Moscow in exchange for the deal was to abandon the idea of ​​supplying S-300 systems to Iran. However, as you know, in 2010 the contract for the S-300 was canceled by Moscow, and after that the talk about the deal with the Saudis ceased.

Let us ask ourselves: where did Saudi Arabia have such confidence in its strategy? Why the Saudis do not doubt that Assad will fall soon and why persistently "roll up" to Russia?

It must be assumed that the reason is not a revision of the country's oil life and the impending diversification of the economy (up to the all-round development of the “tourism” and “entertainment” spheres), which Mr. Al Jubeir told in Brussels.

It is oil that is today the foundation on which ideologues of the development of Saudi Arabia are going to build a building for change. Despite the decline in the price of “black gold”, Saudi Arabia in June 2016 became the leading supplier of oil to China. Here she beat Russia, which was the leader in the previous three months.

The pressure on Russia in the form of “proposals” and generous eastern promises is also explained by the poor economic situation in Russia: due to low oil prices and Western sanctions, the standard of living in the country has greatly decreased. Actually, this is why the Saudi minister speaks of Russia, who has been sanctioned by the EU for sanctions "because of the annexation of the Crimea." With this, he connects the proposal for the share of Moscow in the GCC market and a large package of investments - yes, such that it cannot be compared with the Chinese one.

Difficulties in the raw material economy of Russia remain, and the West is in no hurry to establish relations with Moscow and predictably extends sanctions. Saudi Arabia will take advantage of all this. And these interests are clear: throw off Assad and pinch the bit of possibly rising Iran. Neither the first nor the second goals are achieved without a “deal” with the Russians. That is why al-Jubeir and his superiors are so persistent in their diplomatic messages.

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  1. +1
    26 July 2016 05: 45
    Will the beggar beat the rapids for a long time?
    1. +60
      26 July 2016 06: 28
      - So it is. Twenty rams ...
      - Twenty five.
      “Twenty, twenty.” Rosenlev refrigerator. Finnish, good. Certificate of honor.
      - And a free ticket ...
      - To Siberia!
      "Prisoner of the Caucasus, or Shurik's New Adventures" wassat
      1. Dam
        +43
        26 July 2016 07: 20
        I propose to stay on a ticket to Siberia for the entire Saudi garden
        1. +7
          26 July 2016 07: 32
          On this "bed" has grown 10 (or so) - such a small family, very small
          1. +19
            26 July 2016 07: 50
            They will never understand that not everything can be bought for money, especially in Russia.
            1. +7
              26 July 2016 08: 38
              "dump kings". You can't put it better.: =)
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            3. +6
              26 July 2016 11: 15
              If there were times of Berezovsky, the Saudis would also have sold the Far East. The possibilities of buying in Russia for money depend only on the elite.
            4. +4
              26 July 2016 14: 06
              In Russia, not everything can be bought for money! But everything can be bought for big MONEY !!! But you can’t buy Russia for any money!
              1. -1
                26 July 2016 21: 02
                Oh! Really? And now, without patriotism, remember, if you know a little history, the events of 100 years ago ... Then 25-30 years ... Then Yeltsin with the Yavlinsky, unsinkable Chubais and other oligarchy, Medvedev, who surrendered and Gaddafi, and deals with Iran ...
            5. +3
              26 July 2016 18: 30
              Quote: cniza
              They will never understand that not everything can be bought for money, especially in Russia.

              They are not going to buy anything, they, as has happened more than once, they want to once again PROMISE investments, and after Russia refuses to help Assad, it will be possible to forget about promises. Such promises - about investments - the Saudis have already made: both under Yeltsin and already under Putin - about 8-10 years ago. And they never kept their promises.
              Our leadership knows this very well. Therefore, it is not kept on promises.
              1. +4
                26 July 2016 19: 08
                I will say more, even if the Saudis had fulfilled their "promises" - there is still no logic here: to sell Assad and Iran - natural allies - and find themselves in the BV face to face with Qatar, the Saudis and the United States? and dollars did not save either Gaddafi or Saddam in due time - you know yourself
                1. +1
                  26 July 2016 21: 41
                  Marshal, read the book "Confessions of an Economic Assassin", and you will understand why the Saudis were not touched, they killed Saddam and Gaddafi. So, for general development. An American wrote ...
            6. +2
              26 July 2016 20: 58
              For now ... And if the guy comes again who stops the deal with Iran on the S-300 and passes Gaddafi? Never say never ...
              1. +1
                26 July 2016 22: 05
                Patriotism is good! And hooray-patriotism is CRUNIOUS! Thanks for the minuses, it was right, BUT RUSSIA HAVE NOT THROWN ANYONE WITH HATS. Especially from the sofa. Sew hats.
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        2. +6
          26 July 2016 08: 26
          Quote: Damm
          I propose to stay on a ticket to Siberia for the entire Saudi garden

          To Siberia? Are you in the same oil! No.
          1. +3
            26 July 2016 10: 26
            in in, let it be mined there.
        3. +15
          26 July 2016 08: 37
          Quote: Damm
          I propose to stay on a ticket to Siberia for the entire Saudi garden

          Speaking with the Saudis, one must always remember how during the time of the Union they brought down oil prices in collusion with Washington, which was one of the many factors that caused the collapse of the USSR economy. And today nothing is changing. These are all the same vile mattress friends, and forget about it no way.
          1. +6
            26 July 2016 11: 31
            As for the fall in oil prices as one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR, I would completely disagree. Oil amounted to 1/6 of the replenishment of the budget of the USSR, despite the fact that the USSR was many times more self-sufficient than today's Russia, and I think it was not decisive.
            The attention in the comments is completely riveted to Saudi Arabia and its proposal, I don't see anything new here, remember, because Qatar also offered something similar, and at the same time even dared to name a price of 5 billion. $ for ending support for Syria and its legitimate government. Well, the dogs bark, and the caravan moves on. But the fact that the CA has bypassed us in selling oil to China is for me personally much more important, since China seems to be our "strategic partner", how did it happen? After all, we still have joint projects for the transportation of oil and gas, we have a common land border, and Russia is much closer to China than the SA. And then something has changed, and it would be interesting to know the exact reason, maybe China is still turning away from Russia, as many wrote?
            1. +8
              26 July 2016 11: 50
              I think that China does not turn its back and does not turn to Russia, but simply pursues its own policy - a policy of diversifying the supply of raw materials regardless of friendly or non-friendly relations with a particular country. In short, who sells cheaper and buys, and SA in recent months has made a discount on oil in order to sell it more, since prices are falling and they want to live like before.

              In general, Eastern flattery "about certain preferences in the future" is tiresome and sickening for a European; either idiots or complete fools are caught on it.
              1. +8
                26 July 2016 12: 29
                Read what Xi Jinping said in his speech to mark the 95th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party. - "The world is on the brink of radical changes. We see how the European Union is gradually collapsing, how the US economy is collapsing, all this will end with a new world order. It will never be the same as before, in 10 years we will have a new world order in which the key will be an alliance between China and Russia, "the Chinese leader is sure.

                However, it seems that this is not only about an economic union - although according to world experts, diplomats and politicians, relations between China and Russia "have never been so great." Xi Jinping, according to media reports, also announced a military alliance - which will make NATO powerless.

                “We are now witnessing aggressive actions from the United States, both against Russia and China. I believe that Russia and China can create an alliance in front of which NATO will be powerless and this will put an end to the imperialist aspirations of the West. What do you think about it? ? And for whom did he say it?

                - See more at: http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2016/07/03/22440495/#sthash.zUPFI3TV.dpuf
                1. +1
                  26 July 2016 16: 07
                  China is only interested in Russia as a military ally. It would be necessary to diversify the economy, and most importantly, to change the education system, and we will grow our good cadres, and the elite of many states, not only China, loyal and even loving Russia.
                  1. +3
                    26 July 2016 16: 52
                    Quote: samoletil18
                    China is only interested in Russia as a military ally.

                    Not quite so ... Russia is interested in China as a supplier of military technologies, the development of which the Chinese themselves would have taken more than a dozen years. And as an ally ... well, this is some small side effect in this matter.
                    1. +2
                      26 July 2016 17: 26
                      Do you think the Chinese do not remember history or enemies? Technology they steal not only from us! China has grown out of its panties and wanted more influence in the world, for this it needs strong allies! For them, the Anglo-Saxons are blood enemies, they just don’t talk about it every they remember us! They had problems with us because of the debunking of the Stalin personality cult! Their elite saw this as a mortal danger for themselves and severed all relations! Now we do not have such contradictions and we have one enemy! They offer an alliance and for us he very useful.
                      1. 0
                        26 July 2016 19: 53
                        You forgot that Russia has only two allies, the army and the navy. The rest, and especially China, have never been a friend. And now, always smiling affectionately, the Chinese always do only what is beneficial to them. In general, the Saudis have lost their fear, the camel drivers, being fat on oil, imagined that with their meager mind, they could make politics. And in general, I believe that Russia should not flatter itself. All these games of "friends" and "allies" can turn out badly, like, for example, "friendship with America" ​​in the early 90s. And half of the rest of the world prefers not to remember how much good the USSR did for them. So, don't give a damn about everyone, and do only a policy that is only for the good of Russia.
                      2. +1
                        26 July 2016 22: 18
                        Quote: Orionvit
                        You forgot that Russia has only two allies, an army and a navy.

                        Actually three ... army, navy and VKS.
                      3. 0
                        26 July 2016 23: 32
                        I haven’t forgotten about this! But alliances can be beneficial or vice versa! What prevents us from making this alliance profitable for us? Especially when the West has united! Again, shout against everyone?
            2. +1
              26 July 2016 16: 50
              Quote: Svoy_tovarish
              As for the fall in oil prices as one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR, I would completely disagree.

              As one of the reasons, not the collapse, but the strangulation of the USSR ... it will be more accurate.
              Quote: Svoy_tovarish
              But the fact that the SA bypassed us in selling oil to China is for me personally much more important, since China seems to be our "strategic partner", how did it happen? After all, we still have joint projects for the transportation of oil and gas, we have a common land border, and Russia is much closer to China than the SA. And then something has changed, and it would be interesting to know the exact reason, maybe China is still turning away from Russia, as many wrote?

              I suppose this is temporary ... we are intensively building up the Arctic grouping, and in the Arctic there are incomparably more hydrocarbons than the entire Middle East in a compartment. And so far, the Arctic card has not been played, although many, including China, want to get their piece of this tasty pie. But only we have a truly capable, and most importantly numerous, icebreaker fleet. At the same time, we regularly strengthen the land component of the Arctic grouping. China took the southern latitudes, so to speak, while looking north. And without further ado, we are slowly preparing an "answer to Chamberlain." on the future claims of anyone on the Arctic hydrocarbon reserves, in order to surpass everyone in the production and sale of these raw materials.
            3. +2
              26 July 2016 18: 37
              Quote: Svoy_tovarish
              As for the fall in oil prices as one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR, I would completely disagree. Oil amounted to 1/6 of the replenishment of the budget of the USSR, despite the fact that the USSR was many times more self-sufficient than today's Russia, and I think it was not decisive.

              This was of great importance, since the market content of the market was largely dependent on imports. And import was possible only if there was a currency received from the export of raw materials. No goods - there is no way to buy them if there is money from the population.
              And in terms of budget components - alcohol took up much more oil - and Gorbachev's idiotic "fight against drunkenness" also contributed to the collapse of the Union.
              But the main, main reason for the collapse was traitors in the upper echelons of power - both in the Union republics and in the USSR.
          2. 0
            26 July 2016 13: 03
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Damm
            I propose to stay on a ticket to Siberia for the entire Saudi garden

            Speaking with the Saudis, one must always remember how during the time of the Union they brought down oil prices in collusion with Washington, which was one of the many factors that caused the collapse of the USSR economy. And today nothing is changing. These are all the same vile mattress friends, and forget about it no way.

            These are such friends that enemies are not necessary. They will do it only with an eye on Washington, this is their extra feeding.
        4. +3
          26 July 2016 11: 33
          Quote: Damm
          I propose to stay on a ticket to Siberia for the entire Saudi garden

          I suggest taking money and continue to bend your line.

          To the claims on Assad’s support, to answer: Duc, we didn’t support it - just now, he slipped - no one even jerked at him ...

          Dob: I mean that now, "thanks" to the titanic efforts of mattress makers, the concepts of honor, conscience are turned inside out.

          We told Gorbachev that we would not expand NATO - and he, ----, believed !!! Ah ha ha ha !!!

          Their slogan - we decide what is good, and everyone else - the second number.


          It's time to start playing by their rules.

          You have to be a mirror in relation to .... a partner. You are good with me - me too. You planted a pig for me - get two in return.
          1. +2
            26 July 2016 15: 44
            It’s not right if we take money and bend our line, and even if we only take money, they will treat us like pida races all kinds of mongrels like the Baltic states. This game is not for Russia.
            1. +1
              27 July 2016 00: 28
              Quote: ML-334
              It’s not right if we take money and bend our line, and even if we only take money, they will treat us like pida races all kinds of mongrels like the Baltic states. This game is not for Russia.

              That's right: it’s all about the sum — you’ll get drunk — they will scam, shine for billions — they will run around to fawn and lick shoes.

              Moreover, pindocs - they have a cult of dough: we trample the loser, creep before the rich and wait for the chance to substitute.

              As for the .. Baltics - for example, I do not ask permission from the ants to sit on a nearby hemp.
        5. +3
          26 July 2016 13: 57
          What for they are needed there in Siberia, these Muslims are fooling our Muslims with their emissaries, but shitting black things in the Caucasus! For scrap and only for scrap of reptiles, let their tails twist camels in their wilderness in their desert!
        6. -1
          26 July 2016 14: 02
          From the Kremlin wall of his ... that ...
        7. -1
          27 July 2016 10: 09
          It’s not necessary to send all demons to SIBERIA, all demons in Moscow to all there !!! laughing
    2. +6
      26 July 2016 07: 38
      Let them shove their carrots, everyone knows where. And chew backseat.
      Trade in geopolitics is not acceptable for Russia, we are not Ukraine, and we do not play political prostitution.
      1. +8
        26 July 2016 08: 08
        And they have prostitution in the blood ....
        And what, in fact, can be expected from the offspring of traders and drovers of camels, which were their ancestors for millennia ?!
        Well, untold wealth fell from heaven to the wretched, well, we traveled - we learned the wisdom and good manners of the Anglo-Saxons ... and then what? But nothing at all!
        As the saying goes - you can always tear a person out of the dermis, but this is the most out of a person ... A ram is practically not possible!
        Dumb, but very tricky ... drunk, lazy, but very puffy, greedy and envious - these are the characteristic features of any Arab, especially these Saudite ushlepok!
        Such friends for one place and to the museum!
        1. +1
          26 July 2016 14: 36
          Everything is fair!
          I call these "sly ... sly deb.ly". The adjective in this case fits well with the noun.
    3. +2
      26 July 2016 07: 53
      these traders completely lost their scent, Syria is not a subject for bidding, and it’s unworthy to change the country with the people to green paper ...
      1. +2
        26 July 2016 10: 59
        They, as overseas trainers accustomed them to these mattresses, perceive these monkeys and perceive the whole world - buy and sell, they also threatened to withdraw pennies to billions, they threatened so threateningly. They think that it can be done with Russia as well - first give money, and then threaten ...
    4. +1
      26 July 2016 07: 53
      Poroshenko remembered ??
    5. 0
      26 July 2016 08: 03
      In the film, yes, there wasn’t such a life.
      1. 0
        26 July 2016 10: 04
        Saudi Americans bought. Why not try and buy us? For demand, they don’t hit us in the nose)))
        1. 0
          26 July 2016 23: 24
          About Arctic hydrocarbons. The north, the higher the cost of oil. The Saudis have the lowest. When I studied these numbers they had $ 5, we have $ 25, the United States $ 50 per barrel. The numbers can change, but the proportion will remain.

          And about venality and betrayal --- and in this, in the image, notoriety ----- the "humpbacked ringleader" apparently amazed the whole world that the Saudis still consider it possible. Something like that.
  2. +9
    26 July 2016 05: 52
    Good You need to stare at the tail and mane, only then you will become more accommodating. The whole royal family is frostbitten, plus one of the crown princes is a passionate homosexual.
    1. +2
      26 July 2016 07: 51
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      ... one of the crown princes is a passionate fagot.

      And they have it normal. Sunnis with Shiites are staring at each other. There is no fear (.). Fearlessness Left (O) ...
  3. +3
    26 July 2016 05: 55
    A proposal that you can’t agree to .. A strange minister is with them .. I’m similar to a fagot ... Is it really there already ??
    1. +1
      26 July 2016 06: 12
      Quote: dmi.pris
      A proposal that you can’t agree to .. A strange minister is with them .. I’m similar to a fagot ... Is it really there already ??

      Yes there all the same, haven't you heard about the Arabs-p_darasov?
      Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed Europe and now set to Arabs.
      and not to mention p_dikov from the USA with its advertising of any bullshit on the Internet.

      Therefore, we must help the president and the leader of the nation, so as not to follow the path of the West and the Arabs, we need to obey the president in everything, and we, ordinary Internet visitors, need to start the fight against American bullshit advertising on the Internet, and even in RuNet they occupied us.

      We are obliged to get rid of this intrusive and nerdy advertising on Military Review. If you have a Google Chrome browser or Firefox, then go to the browser extension store and install ublock origin and in its settings in the 2nd tab check all Rus Rus Rus.
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  4. +9
    26 July 2016 06: 08
    Judged by themselves. They think everyone can buy and sell. Let the Clintons give money. She will take it with pleasure, and work out for the glory.
    1. +1
      26 July 2016 06: 37
      Let the Clintons give money.


      She will not ask. Their money will freeze for 9-11 years by 20. She will have enough percent of this amount.
    2. +6
      26 July 2016 06: 55
      Quote: strelets
      Let the Clintons give money. She will take it with pleasure, and work out for the glory.

      Gaddafi's example does not mean anything? He gave money to Sarkozy, for which Gaddafi was killed and Libya was torn to pieces. The Saudis know about this development of events and they don’t give the Clintons money, but offer Russia. And this is a double-edged sword, so they better keep them. " American candy wrappers "at home.
    3. -3
      26 July 2016 07: 42
      Quote: strelets
      Judged by themselves

      the saudis in terms of debility are no different from Assad.
      first think. that everything can be bought
      Second one. that someone else won the civil war.
      1. +8
        26 July 2016 08: 20
        Do you call "civil war" a war that is inflated, armed, and financed by America and its allies? In my Ukraine it is called "hybrid war", not "civil" - Russia supplies weapons, money, assistance to the militia, the only difference from Syria is that it was not Russia that inflated this conflict, and intervened only when the defeat of the militia became obvious.
        And the United States itself organized the Syrian rebellion, and openly arming illegal armed formations of thugs and cannibals - thugs and cannibals in the literal sense, it was in the "moderate opposition" that fought Abu Sakkar, who ate the heart of a killed Syrian warrior.

        So what about the "civil war" - stop helping the "opposition", and the war will end very quickly even without the help of the Russian Federation!
        1. 0
          26 July 2016 21: 05
          Do you want to pose in Donetsk and Lugansk? By the way, are you from the issue of cyber wrestlers with the Russian Mordor?
      2. +2
        26 July 2016 10: 00
        Quote: atalef
        by the level of moronism

        Hello, dear. I haven’t met you at VO for a long time. I probably came up with this comment, which has no equal in debilism. negative
      3. +3
        26 July 2016 10: 44
        Quote: atalef

        Second one. that someone else won the civil war.

        Well, of course, what else can a representative of the most "honest" state in the world say? The state, which is the standard of "openness and honesty". Which, of course, never does or did anything with someone else's hands.
      4. +1
        26 July 2016 21: 33
        And only the most intelligent Jews? And never, didn’t they get help from anyone, didn’t they start a war? And did they always fight only on their own? And the US Navy didn’t help them ??? Would the USA (England, France) have Israel won in at least one war? Well, after the 1990s, I won’t argue ... But after that, they fought only with Lebanon and Palestine ... which were left without support.
  5. PKK
    +8
    26 July 2016 06: 12
    They don’t need to think about Assad, but about the Hussites who shake the tail of the Saudis. The most interesting thing is just beginning.
  6. +1
    26 July 2016 06: 16
    In his opinion, Assad’s days are “numbered” anyway, and the Russians should hurry up with a profitable “deal”.

    Everything through the prism of the bubble. For more, the "tough Saudis" laughing , brains are not enough. fellow
    1. +2
      26 July 2016 06: 39
      All through the prism of dough


      - East is a delicate matter. (Red Army Sukhov).
      1. 0
        26 July 2016 13: 12
        Quote: Alex_Tug
        All through the prism of dough


        - East is a delicate matter. (Red Army Sukhov).

        Where it is thin and torn.
  7. +9
    26 July 2016 06: 17
    Annoyed by their confidence that everything can be bought for money. If they continue to push this way, we will come and take everything ourselves.
    1. +12
      26 July 2016 07: 41
      Everything is mine, ”said gold;
      “Everything is mine,” said damask steel.
      “I’ll buy everything,” said gold;
      “I'll take it all,” said damask steel.
      AS Pushkin
      let the Saudis read Russian classics. And then you can’t judge us in Europe.
      1. 0
        26 July 2016 21: 37
        Send these verses to the officials. They also won’t be able to know Russian classics. Here they will laugh ... By the way, in the MO too.
    2. vpm
      +1
      26 July 2016 12: 51
      After (or even almost during) the terrorist attack on Dubrovka, one of the Saudi ministers says, I don’t remember Al Jubeir or not, he also came with offers of investments in Russia, up to nuclear energy. Then, despite the enormous pressure, it prudently did not agree to this. If you didn’t agree then, now there’s even less reason. In Russia, the economic crisis is not the first, and despite the difficulties, the country will pass it. And it is time for the Saudis themselves to recall the history of the Middle East until the 1st World War - the Saudis are the guardians of Mecca only thanks to the British, however, I think they remember it very well. By the way, it’s not in vain that they formulate such messages, they poured decently into Clinton, but there is no horse food there - the grandmother does not overtake their interests to defend, and if Trump gets out, he simply wraps them around for any service.
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  8. +9
    26 July 2016 06: 20
    In the East, they do not like traitors ... The Saud themselves know this very well ... and they will not forge a powerful state from Russia ... So the proposal is "weak" ...
  9. +2
    26 July 2016 06: 32
    It is impossible for the Saudis to believe in anything in the back with a knife stuck in the opportunity. Another thing is the old trusted friend Assad.
    1. +16
      26 July 2016 07: 22
      Quote: Alexander 3
      It is impossible for the Saudis to believe in anything in the back with a knife stuck in the opportunity. Another thing is the old trusted friend Assad.

      Is it possible for the Turks?
      There are no friends in politics, there are interests and no one knows when these interests coincide.
      The USSR sufficiently supported until the end various * friends *, due to the well-being of its own people.
      As a result, no grandmothers or friends and the country was ruined.
      Own interests must be guided. rather than clinging to figures.
      1. +3
        26 July 2016 07: 47
        Quote: atalef
        As a result, no grandmothers or friends and the country was ruined.
        Own interests must be guided. rather than clinging to figures.

        Absolutely to the point! One must look at the household level in relations between countries, too. Countries are like separate people living in some territory, like we all live together, we work, each in his own way earns a living, but everyone abides by laws and unwritten rules and this can not be changed in any way. The only exception when full confidence can arise is when people get married, but not everything is clear here and divorces happen later. Saudi Arabia would have declared that it wants to become part of the Russian Federation on the terms of Russia, one would still have thought, but hadn’t announced it, but was offering a trivial deal, but related to breaking the unwritten rule, and who will we be after that? After that I don’t respect them at all, and I didn’t really respect them before, there was nothing ... They judge others by themselves.
      2. +4
        26 July 2016 08: 43
        There are no friends in politics, there are interests and no one knows when these interests coincide.
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        --
        I agree. Only one BUT. In politics, as in ordinary life, there is also fidelity to the WORD. If you have weighed and considered everything, you have given your word, so hold on to it. For you are waiting for the miserable fate of an outcast. An example of Olanka in the situation with the Mistrals, but the iPhone with the S-300 says nothing?
      3. +1
        26 July 2016 10: 52
        But what about the country's prestige as a loyal ally? Assad is our interests! Syria is our long-standing and loyal ally who defended our interests and, in fact, suffered from this! I understand Israel has other interests, but this is off topic.
      4. 0
        26 July 2016 21: 47
        Excuse me, but Israel and the United States? The United States with a small letter because not a single proposal to condemn Israel from the Arab countries or from the USSR was made only because of the imposition of the VETO USA ... I'm talking about the United Nations ... So who's THE ELDER BROTHER ???
    2. 0
      26 July 2016 08: 35
      They do not differ in decency and are ready to deceive even in trifles ...
  10. +2
    26 July 2016 06: 33
    something more and more often the thought comes to me that Russia will have to carry out a ground operation in Syria to cleanse immoderate and moderate
    1. +2
      26 July 2016 06: 52
      a ground operation to be carried out in Syria to clean from immoderate and moderate


      Do not find that your thought is bad?
      In private, you can of course.
    2. -7
      26 July 2016 07: 39
      Quote: War Builder
      something more and more often the thought comes to me that Russia will have to carry out a ground operation in Syria to cleanse immoderate and moderate

      Well, it remains only to fight for Assad and put the lives of Russian soldiers.
      1. +6
        26 July 2016 09: 09
        What does Assad have to do with it? You climb to Ukraine, not worrying for Ukrainians with Poroshenko, but for the interests of your Israel. So, Russia in Syria cannot have its own interests?
        1. -2
          26 July 2016 17: 39
          Quote: atalef
          Well, it remains only to fight for Assad and put the lives of Russian soldiers.

          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          What does Assad have to do with it? You climb to Ukraine, not worrying for Ukrainians with Poroshenko, but for the interests of your Israel. So, Russia in Syria cannot have its own interests?

          I agree with Atalef - no wars except the Patriotic War, and let the VKS train in Syria.
          In general, it is a pity that we lagged behind the Yusovites in the field of UAVs, 3-4 dozen shock UAVs, such as, for example, "Predator-3" would be an extremely effective tool in this war, and they would have gone "in flight" for a pretty penny, to fight ISIS is the very thing, it is very necessary for our people to put such cars on the wing.
      2. -1
        26 July 2016 11: 12
        Well, yes, it would be better for everyone to have a Russian soldier die as always on our territory! Or do you disagree with me? You know that we have proclaimed that we will no longer fight on our territory! And so it will be! The West has announced the beginning of a new war against Russia! And it is already approaching our borders. It would not be right to stop the enemy on the approaches, but not near Moscow?
        1. 0
          27 July 2016 16: 09
          Quote: You Vlad
          Well, yes, it would be better for everyone to have a Russian soldier die as always on our territory! Or do you disagree with me?

          It will be better for everyone if the Russian soldier, as we have established, ends the war in the capital of the enemy. And where he dies - on his land or not, anyway - death is death, regardless of geographical location, the main thing is not in vain.
          Quote: You Vlad
          You know that we have proclaimed that we will no longer fight in our territory!

          I don’t know what YOU proclaimed there, but if there is a Russia-NATO mess, then be sure to tell them about it, maybe stop their whole armada. And we, alas, in this case, have to fight, I would not want to of course, however ...
          Quote: You Vlad
          The West has announced the beginning of a new war against Russia! And it is already approaching our borders. Wouldn’t it be right to stop the enemy at the approaches, and not near Moscow?

          ISIS is a mongrel of our true enemy, and a military victory over them is impossible, in today's realities, Amers have infinitely long dollars and a PRINT button, as a result they can hire an infinite number of impoverished broads-terrorists. No matter how much we crush them, no matter how many resources we spend, they just press the PRINT button and hire more women, and no matter how many they die, even if the account is 100: 1, even 1000: 1 in our favor, they won’t lose anything, in addition to his toilet paper, which will be printed without problems as much as is required, but here we will spend resources, the economy of the state and the lives of our soldiers - this will be the victory of our enemy.
          Quote: You Vlad
          Wouldn't it be right to stop the enemy on the approaches, and not near Moscow?

          The aerospace forces are doing just that, and you’ll think about what will happen if we do not have time to rearm our army, if we use up too many resources, tear the economy - war is a very expensive business, and we have a lot to do - TU-160, C-400 / 500 , T-50, Armata, Coalition, Kurganets, Sarmat, Barguzin, Container, Voronezh, and much, much more - this is a colossal work, and it needs to be done!
          1. 0
            27 July 2016 23: 24
            The difference in our civilian population that could die at the hands of terrorists! Proclaimed Karaganov presidential adviser. I meant Igil)
      3. 0
        26 July 2016 22: 02
        For Assad or for ... but the lives of soldiers are more expensive ... Better with bombs ... But the infrastructure and the number of trained crews and planes seem to not allow yet ... And the ground - Vietnam, but for Russia as the United States ... Rave.
    3. 0
      26 July 2016 10: 59
      The scale of our operation in Syria is too small to win this war! Now an underhanded struggle is going on, if the Americans do not retreat, it will be necessary to solve something quickly.
  11. +15
    26 July 2016 06: 38
    An interesting logic is that if you are sure of victory and know that Assad’s days are numbered, then why are you offering money? what request
    It means that his days are not counted at all, and he doesn’t smell of victory here, but smells of the usual cheap blackmail, covered by poorly concealed hypocrisy and lies, just like the teachers on the other side of the Atlantic Yes And if you take into account that "the East is a delicate matter," then personally I would not believe the Saudis a single gram ... hi
    1. +2
      26 July 2016 09: 45
      That's right, why pay if you can wait and get everything for free. And the price of their promises of "share" is one dead donkey.
  12. +18
    26 July 2016 06: 40
    So, this is what a donkey loaded with gold looks like ... what
    1. -2
      26 July 2016 07: 23
      Quote: wicked partisan
      So, this is what a donkey loaded with gold looks like ... what

      Hey . Yura
      Are you again with the Ukrainian flag?
      1. 0
        26 July 2016 10: 32
        Quote: atalef
        Hey . Yura

        Sholem Aleichem! drinks
        Quote: atalef
        Are you again with the Ukrainian flag?

        And ... That Pelym, that Ukraine is one ... sad
  13. +2
    26 July 2016 06: 42
    It is necessary to help the Hussites to create their own state on the territory of Saudi Arabia, with the immediate recognition of this state by Russia. In the meantime, it is necessary to arrange terrorist attacks in the Saudi oil fields with the hands of the same Hussites.
    1. 0
      26 July 2016 06: 56
      it is necessary to arrange terrorist attacks in the Saudi oil fields with the hands of the same Hussites.


      Bad idea, you need to "be friends" with Erdogan. At least this will somehow reduce the tension in the region.
    2. +3
      26 July 2016 07: 24
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      It is necessary to help the Hussites in creating their own state on the territory of Saudi Arabia, with the immediate recognition of this state by Russia.

      Nothing. What are the Hussites in Yemen?
      1. +4
        26 July 2016 08: 22
        The Saudis came to Yemen, it would be good for the Hussites to pay a courtesy return.
  14. +2
    26 July 2016 06: 49
    We got used to buying Yankes "on the vine" ...
  15. +1
    26 July 2016 06: 51
    Such proposals should please us and remain favorably unnoticed.
    I’m glad because the Arabs began to understand that the US will sell them as soon as possible, and we need a reliable friend and partner.
    Unnoticed - let them twitch, let their arrogance be diminished.
    1. -1
      26 July 2016 08: 05
      And this is only the first sentence, the first bribe. A couple more velvet revolutions and they will give everything back !!
  16. +14
    26 July 2016 06: 53
    al-Jubair invited Russia to sell its ally for a specific amount of money


    1. 0
      26 July 2016 10: 30
      Exact comparison.
      In both cases, the sovereign people have a short conversation with overwhelming traders.
    2. 0
      26 July 2016 11: 23
      Customs gives the go-ahead.
  17. +1
    26 July 2016 06: 54
    I would like to quote the words of Comrade. N.S. Khrushchev at the "bulldozer exhibition"
  18. 0
    26 July 2016 06: 58
    Yes, yes, changes! It’s smelled fried for you. Rather, it’s a tribal civil war. There are no direct Al Sauds, but a lot of side contenders. The Yanques have already spoken out about this, your internal problems, sort it out yourself. They got it. And they are looking for someone would buy.
    1. -2
      26 July 2016 07: 25
      Quote: shinobi
      There are no direct AlSauds left

      belay
  19. +5
    26 July 2016 07: 13
    As D'Artagnan used to say: "I would be badly received here, and they would look at me badly there"
  20. +2
    26 July 2016 07: 14
    The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Saudi Arabia said this in an interview with Politico. In his opinion, Assad’s days are “numbered” anyway, and the Russians should hurry up with a profitable “deal”.
    Ahrenet, a fucking Bedouin offers us this in Russia. We are not the USA where everything is sold and bought. A volley of our Caliber and you are beggars, u-ro-ds.
  21. +1
    26 July 2016 07: 14
    Riyadh is ready to offer Moscow major investments and cooperation with the monarchies of the Persian Gulf

    We were promised a lot by their teachers (west), and to believe the students who, according to the logic, should surpass their teachers can only be completely de "l" such as Gorbachev (Judas)
  22. 0
    26 July 2016 07: 18
    You can take the money, and then you look and you won't have to give it back. a lot of people the Saudis have done wrong. They are very worried about themselves, so they believe "naively" that everyone will be bought off. Houthis to them .... to the rear.
  23. +2
    26 July 2016 07: 19
    If the Saudis are talking about diversifying the economy, then there’s a complete seam with oil reserves. Perhaps soon they will be back where they were at the beginning of the last century - in feudalism. We will wait.
  24. 0
    26 July 2016 07: 21
    Feed that jerk pork publicly and live ...
  25. +1
    26 July 2016 07: 21
    Friends are not for sale.
    1. 0
      26 July 2016 11: 22
      Quote: theadenter
      Friends are not for sale.

      Everything is for sale, so everything is for sale. Even plots on the moon are for sale.
  26. 0
    26 July 2016 07: 28
    Good news .
  27. +4
    26 July 2016 07: 28
    If they openly offer loot, then Assad’s days are not counted, but they can’t offer more. Let's see how our tops behave. The Saudis were brought up by the Americans, which means that you cannot believe either one or the other.
  28. +2
    26 July 2016 07: 48
    Rude, impudent, unceremonious. This "diplomat" is a natural suitcase! You need to act much more subtly with such impudent people.
    1. Develop the diversification of their economy in the construction of facilities with the technologies and experience of ROSATOM. A bunch of methods (the simplest bureaucracy).
    2. Disconnection in the future of gas prices from oil prices through the British thermal unit. The layouts will change significantly.
    3. In the future, it will come to oil and gas deposits at the Golan Heights. And under international law, this is Syria. Then it will be clear who will whom and under what conditions can offer the SSPGZ market.
  29. +1
    26 July 2016 08: 01
    Some puppy, an Arabian shmakodyavka still dares to vomit his insinuations against the ruler of the Great Power! Yes, his filthy kingdom in two days can be completely filled with sand, with a hill.
    The chunks of non-Russian shores have beguiled completely.
  30. 0
    26 July 2016 08: 25
    Arabs are traders in the worst sense of the word and beggars. They cannot do otherwise. For centuries they gave bribes to everyone with whom they could not cope.
  31. +1
    26 July 2016 09: 16
    Are they there that completely beguiled the shores ?!
    As were stupid chocks, so they remained. Oil runs out - and again to the camels.
  32. 0
    26 July 2016 09: 19
    everything is simple, the Saudis, these "girls" in eternal kerchiefs with bagels and dressing gowns need Syria to build an oil pipeline in the Mediterranean, but so that without the participation of Syria itself, Assad's enemy, they cannot fight, now they are trying to buy, and notice not Assad, but that who supports him in the confrontation - Russia ...
  33. +3
    26 July 2016 09: 26
    Guys, let's have less emotions. Don't you think that the driver of the camel let it slip? "The days of Assad are numbered." Despite the fact that things are getting worse and worse for Daesh. So? They will clean up. How? How do I know, but they will eliminate physically. Sniper, terrorist attack, poison ... the arsenal is huge. How did you get to Chavez? It looks like the same thing. Day after day. Maybe bribery of close associates? In general, let's not guess, but responsible comrades would not hurt to be on their guard.
    1. 0
      26 July 2016 23: 39
      In my opinion, this mantra has been spoken for several years. And how about Putin are furious. Dogs bark.
  34. +1
    26 July 2016 10: 26
    In his opinion, the days of Assad are still "numbered" Yes no. Fool. These are your days. laughing
  35. 3vs
    0
    26 July 2016 10: 29
    Osloe..m do not understand what honor and conscience and the Russian proverb are:
    "Having given your word, hold on, and not having given, hold on!" ...
  36. 0
    26 July 2016 10: 39
    The Minister of Foreign Affairs of Saudi Arabia said this in an interview with Politico. In his opinion, Assad’s days are “numbered” anyway, and the Russians should hurry up with a profitable “deal”.

    If his days were numbered, they would have given a penny at least a penny. And in general, our friends do not sell.
  37. +1
    26 July 2016 10: 53
    The king gave the word, the king took the word.
    "To deceive the unfaithful - to do good!"
  38. 0
    26 July 2016 11: 03
    you can’t say someone else’s days count, bad omen wassat Well, in general terms, they need to be punished so that it is not nice for others to make such a statement in the future. This is an insult to RUSSIA !!!
  39. +1
    26 July 2016 11: 09
    It's time to put the dirty upstarts in place. Personally, I would turn their desert into a radioactive one. Spit on ** international opinion **. They would have become more afraid and only then would all sorts of mongrel fawn before us. And those who are larger have seen that just twitch - will be destroyed. In general, we must systematically send everyone to a known address when it comes to our interests.
  40. +3
    26 July 2016 11: 12
    To hand over? Do not pass? Whom? Bashar?
    Hand over to whom? Yes to one
    The godfather of the globe
    Surrender is for him!

    Hand over Saddam? Hand over Gaddafi?
    To hand over? Do not pass? Need a moon:
    We do not have enough geography
    On the planet, godfather!

    Pahana at the checkpoint -
    Hand over everyone, all in a row,
    He will bomb you differently
    A goddamned democrat!

    To hand over? Do not pass? Whom? Planet?
    Godfather hegemon
    Discussing this change,
    Like an elephant in a china shop!

    To hand over? Do not pass? Whom? By the list.
    I’m not letting anyone go.
    Our deliverers are like a bowl,
    Surrender their lick.

    To hand over? Do not pass? Who was asked
    Brutal Serbia bomb?
    I'll never give up - Russia,
    I will never surrender myself.

    Yunna Moritz
  41. +1
    26 July 2016 11: 15
    Quote: dimyan
    It's time to put the dirty upstarts in place. Personally, I would turn their desert into a radioactive one. Spit on ** international opinion **. They would have become more afraid and only then would all sorts of mongrel fawn before us. And those who are larger have seen that just twitch - will be destroyed. In general, we must systematically send everyone to a known address when it comes to our interests.

    I support and add to the interests of allies and friends,
  42. +2
    26 July 2016 11: 19
    If they know that the days of Assad are numbered, then why waste so much money? Sit and wait for the body of the enemy to swim. There is too much money and nowhere to go? Distribute to your poor.
  43. 0
    26 July 2016 11: 20
    Let us ask ourselves: where did Saudi Arabia have such confidence in its strategy? Why the Saudis do not doubt that Assad will fall soon and why persistently "roll up" to Russia?

    You can only drive hard to someone who is potentially not opposed to drive up to him.
  44. 0
    26 July 2016 11: 52
    What can give our country a crowd of illiterate Bedouins?

    They do not need to think about Assad, but about how to stop the Houthis offensive - just in the direction of the main deposits.
    In this situation, the Saudis and their oil market are extremely unstable.

    And it touches that the Saudis offer Putin, something that is already in fact him. Influence and oil in the Middle East of the Russian Federation will be huge and without Arabia .....
    This minister is a scammer guest
  45. 0
    26 July 2016 12: 29
    Here are dog dogs, they think that Russians change their friends for 30 pieces of silver. no really. rather, they will eat pork in pilaf, than this will happen
  46. -1
    26 July 2016 12: 58
    Saudis are American bedding. Now they, at the direction of the mattresses, want to set a precedent, show the whole world - look how it feels to be a partner of Russia, as soon as they are offered a lot of money, they will immediately leave you for us to eat, like Assad. In Syria, we not only help out Assad's partner, but also create a counterbalance to the American lawlessness, which everyone was afraid to resist for a couple of decades. So they are trying to force us to curtail everything in Syria, either with threats or with promises.
    the Saudis let the camels comb their tails;
  47. +2
    26 July 2016 13: 11
    They are not ready to give, but ready to promise money.
    And this is not a small difference in the Arab world.
    So let others promise, they are not our friends.
  48. 0
    26 July 2016 14: 31
    He wants to deceive us, the Arab takes for fools.
  49. 0
    26 July 2016 14: 53
    He speaks three and a half languages, but a dudec dudec. Absolutely al-Jubair?
  50. 0
    26 July 2016 15: 10
    The son of donkey is trying to fulfill the will of a star-headed jackal.
  51. 0
    26 July 2016 16: 10
    We Russians do not surrender our own!!!
  52. 0
    26 July 2016 16: 12
    Russia is not a country that takes handouts, even big ones. In fact, the Saudis are offering Russia to sell their honor to them. Where can I get a new one? You can’t buy it. Once you sell it, who will believe you?
  53. 0
    26 July 2016 16: 26
    Take the money, send the Saudis, use the money to produce weapons for the Syrians and train them to use them.
    1. 0
      26 July 2016 19: 54
      Then you will have to apologize and admit your mistakes. Even cry from excess feelings. But: money in the morning, chairs in the evening.
  54. +1
    26 July 2016 16: 30
    the reputation of a reliable partner is more valuable than any money...
  55. -1
    26 July 2016 18: 52
    >But the very idea that Moscow would be ready to consider such a proposal is an unheard-of insult.”
    Like a girl, straight.
    Well, if you don’t want Saudi money, sit without pants. You can once again rob the pension fund
    1. 0
      26 July 2016 19: 49
      Virtual Saudi money won't make you feel any better, boy. If you are without pants now, then it is not your destiny to cover your shame in the future. And for such proposals - a slipper on the forehead. And for the drool from the mouth and the rolled lip - too.
  56. 0
    26 July 2016 19: 02
    Gorbachev was an expert at taking his word.
    Especially about NATO.
  57. 0
    26 July 2016 19: 32
    Syria cannot be given away under any circumstances. This is the line that no one should cross. The money will be dispersed, no one will see it, and without military bases in the Mediterranean, without a friendly country in the Middle East, we will not be able to compete. Of course, now these kings will send their money to the bandits through English banks. But we must gradually mobilize the world in order to destroy fascism in all its manifestations and in all places, no matter what toga it wears.
    In general, our officials do not need to respond to statements of this kind.
    In short, it’s time to invite kings from the East to teach their children at PFUR. Counteroffer.
  58. +1
    26 July 2016 21: 16
    Surrendering Assad to the Saudis is incredibly stupid. After all, if we surrender it, the Saudis will receive territory for oil and gas pipelines (which is why they dream of removing Assad).
    Thus, we will lose the European raw materials market (and the Saudis can easily cheat us in the Middle East as well), and we will also become famous as traitors to the allies.
  59. 0
    27 July 2016 09: 45
    Jubeir is losing influence request . But the “gray eminence of Saudi Arabia”... Not in the mood, apparently recourse
    The East is a delicate matter, if Adele loses strength, it is unlikely that anyone else will be able to compare with him. Then Soleimani’s organization will restore order in the Middle East. And Daesh, without Saudi money and leadership, will begin to wither. So we'll wait and see hi ...
  60. 0
    27 July 2016 10: 17
    Take it, dear Saudis! Be careful not to get wet!
  61. 0
    27 July 2016 21: 56
    In his opinion, Assad’s days are “numbered” anyway, and the Russians should hurry up with a profitable “deal”.

    If this were so, they would not have offered money...