The Kremlin makes up new mobilization plans

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Since 15 July, the Federal Law 61-FZ “On Defense” has come into effect in a new edition of 3 July this year. Obviously, the changes in the 1996 law of the year are caused by the appearance of the Rosguards, and are also associated with an analysis of the results of the two strategic exercises. As is known, civilian ministries, departments, as well as authorities of several subjects of the Federation participated in them. It is clear that in this case we can talk about mobilization measures. They are carried out in accordance with Section V “State of War. Martial law. Mobilization. Civil defense. Territorial defense "of the federal law.

The most recent sudden random test of the mobilization readiness of military and state authorities to act in armed conflicts of varying intensity and in crisis situations took place from 14 to 22 in June of this year. The state of the reserve formations, the stockpiles of weapons and military equipment, the organization of the interaction of the staffs with the executive authorities and military commissariats, and the readiness of the control system were checked. The mobilization readiness and ability to perform the tasks of territorial defense with the mobilization of individual military authorities and units was assessed. At the final stage, the possibility of the military districts to co-ordinate and withdraw the formed formations and units of special forces to the areas of emergency situations of natural and man-made character was tested.

The results of the verification were not reported anywhere. This is understandable, because the country's mobility and mobilization training are the most closed areas of government. Speaking at the joint Plenum of the Central Committee and Central Control Commission of the CPSU (b) in 1927, a member of the Politburo and Chairman of the USSR Supreme Economic Council Alexei Rykov, who replaced Vladimir Lenin in this post, said: “In military affairs, we have a number of such conspiratorial issues and things that we avoid sending out notes even to members of the Politburo and, in some cases, familiarize them with a single instance. ”

Nowadays, everything that relates to defense and security falls into the category of state and military secrets, and mobilization plans and mobilization schedules for deploying the armed forces and economic sectors during the transition period and in a state of war are in the first place among specially protected state secrets.

From the scanty bits of information, one can guess some conclusions drawn from strategic exercises and checks. It became known, for example, that 30 June at a meeting of the government of the Russian Federation discussed changes in some acts of the government. In particular, the powers of the Ministry of Environment, Rosprirodnadzor, Rosnedra, Rosgidromet, Rosvodresursy and Rosleskhoz to organize and ensure mobilization training and mobilization, as well as to monitor and coordinate the activities of their territorial bodies and subordinate organizations for mobilization training and mobilization were specified. Following the results of the discussion, the government of the Russian Federation, by its resolution 7 July, approved changes in some state acts. In accordance with them, the listed federal authorities should organize and ensure mobilization training and mobilization of their departments, as well as control and coordination of the activities of their territorial bodies and organizations under their authority for mobilization training and mobilization.

In follow-up to the decisions taken and in connection with the start of the budget process for the next three years, President 12 July held a meeting on the formation of the budget of the security forces in the current economic realities, taking into account the need to unconditionally ensure national security. The meeting was attended by Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev, Head of the Presidential Control Department Konstantin Chuichenko, Interior Minister Vladimir Kolokoltsev, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Presidential Aide Andrei Belousov, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, Chairman of the Accounts Chamber Tatiana Golikova, FSB Director Alexander Bortnikov, Director of the Federal National Guard Service - Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard Viktor Zolotov.

However, the motives, focus, institutional framework and dynamics of mobilization planning remain unclear. It may seem from the outside that military preparations are situational in nature and have little to do with the strategy for the development of international relations and Russia's place in them. It is not by chance that there are accusations from NATO that the Russian side formally violates the Vienna document 2011 on confidence-building and security measures. The next test of the nerves of NATO generals will be the West-2017 strategic command and staff exercise. At the board of the Ministry of Defense in March of this year, Sergei Shoigu noted that special attention is paid to the preparation of the Russian-Belarusian Regional Group of Forces for training. It is not difficult to guess that the exercises are a key event in the plan approved by the leadership of Russia and Belarus to create a unified military organization by the year of 2018. It is possible that the Union State will also have general mobilization plans. However, much in this matter depends on Moscow.

The large-scale re-equipment of the Russian army means a transition from the development of production facilities to the mass production of weapons and the accumulation of military stocks. It is argued that the military industry is the locomotive for the development of the entire economy. This statement is true here and now, but does not take into account the long-term perspective at all, and the process of turning to the strengthening of the military component in the economy causes the West to fear that having reached a critical mass, the Russian weapon may or should be directed against someone. Moscow’s assurances that the country's readiness is not being tested with the aim of committing aggression, but to strengthen the defense of the state, in the West do not want to hear.
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  1. +49
    24 July 2016 15: 19
    What the hell are "motives unclear"?
    Are we supposed to sit and bathe in the nose, drink a beer and calmly watch how more and more concentration of troops and new weapons systems, including missile defense at our borders?
    Enough, we went through this in our history, and we know what it cost us complacency and confidence that no one will fight with us. Certain ones are being made in the field of mobilization and training of the reserve - rightly so, it is necessary.
    And the fact that the West does not hear our assurances that all this is being done to strengthen the defense of the state is somehow parallel. They never tried to hear us. The general line of their policy - "Russia is the enemy", has long been chosen and designated, and they do not deviate from it. Their actions are in line with this line - the concentration of more and more of their forces at our borders.
    We did, are doing and will continue to do everything so that the West does not even have a ghostly thought that any of their aggressive actions will receive an adequate response. And better - asymmetric.
    1. +18
      24 July 2016 15: 24
      "Moscow's assurances ... the West does not want to hear." If they don't want to - and don't. Many people know the expression of Minister Lavrov about the West (DB).
      1. +2
        24 July 2016 16: 35
        DB only hear what they want to hear ...
        1. +5
          24 July 2016 18: 05
          Off topic: WADA informer Julia Stepanova is not allowed to participate in the Olympic Games
          1. +9
            24 July 2016 19: 47
            Quote: sgazeev
            Off topic: WADA informer Julia Stepanova is not allowed to participate in the Olympic Games



            Traitor he is a traitor in Africa.
    2. +7
      24 July 2016 15: 25
      It is easy to guess that the exercises are a key event in the plan approved by the leadership of Russia and Belarus to create a single military organization by 2018. It is possible that the Union State will have common mobilization plans. However, much in this matter depends on Moscow.

      “This is what I like best.” It is high time our countries unite, at first, at least in a military organization. Cooperation is one thing and a completely different thing, a single military organization.
      1. +3
        24 July 2016 15: 40
        But from Belarus it is difficult to wait for such a decision. Belarus is used to being, in the opinion of the authorities of Belarus, independent, and they perceive any association very painfully.
        1. +1
          24 July 2016 21: 15
          Quote: orlan912
          But from Belarus it is difficult to wait for such a decision. Belarus used to be, in the opinion of the authorities of Belarus, independent,

          Power is one thing. But the Belarusians are different. I sincerely hope that as in the Second World War the Belarusians fought to the death with us, and now they will "send to the erotic on foot" any authorities that want to lure them into NATO. And the third option (either to NATO or against - these are 2 options) - no.
          1. 0
            25 July 2016 10: 46
            This is ours! This is Russ !!!
    3. +7
      24 July 2016 16: 22
      Quote: sever.56
      Enough, we went through this in our history, and we know what it cost us complacency and confidence

      I absolutely agree with you, in the Western mentality only fear inspires respect, let them fear (the process of turning to strengthening the military component in the economy causes the West to fear that, having reached a critical mass, Russian weapons may or should be directed against someone) B after all, we are the biggest divided people, and we ado return our whole identity
      1. +9
        24 July 2016 17: 35
        The people, what is going on in general? Straight master class in pereobuvaniyu in the jump ... laughing

        In the meantime ... in Sweden ... they put the Natsik, who went to the Donbass to fight for the Kiev junta ...
        Swedish court gave three years in prison to a local Nazi who fought in “Azov” and “Aydar”
        There is a certain Andreas Karlsson in Sweden, known for being a high-ranking functionary of the Swedish Nazi "Party of the Swedes", who is also an active participant in the Ukrainian Maidan, a fighter of the "Azov" and "Aidar" gangs. On July 22 2016, Karlsson was sentenced to three years in prison in his homeland.

        On November 27, last year, SBU officers detained him in Lviv. Oripol gave the orientation. In the SIZO he stayed until March of this year, and then was handed over to the authorities of Sweden, much to the chagrin of his Ukrainian associates. At first there were doubts whether to expel a brother according to reason? But his extradition was prompted by the detainee’s constant complaints about the conditions of detention and the quality of food in a Ukrainian democratic, European prison.

        According to the Swedish press, he was convicted for having stabbed two feminist demonstrators with a knife and fatally injured a man on the evening of March 9, 2014. Witnesses of the crime were civilians of Malmö. However, the Nazi’s involvement in the death of a third victim in court could not be proved.

        “The struggle should not go for the number of years and months that individual Nazis should spend behind bars, but for no Nazis to have the right to walk our streets freely,” said the injured Shomman Shattak, commenting on the court decision.
        http://www.politnavigator.net/shvedskijj-sud-dal-tri-goda-tyurmy-mestnomu-nacist
        u-voevavshemu-v-azove-i-ajjdare.html

        In Ukraine gathered degenerates from all over Europe .... crying
        Same single-celled as their brothers in mind from Western Ukraine ... fool
        It’s a pity that he didn’t get into trouble with his stupid head ...
        1. +17
          24 July 2016 18: 11
          Hallelujah ... there is justice in this world .... good

          Contraceptives are discarded after use!
          1. +5
            24 July 2016 19: 17
            They don’t like traitors anywhere negative
        2. +2
          24 July 2016 19: 43
          Kamrad, this is clear evidence that Putinslis again something. laughing After all, the race-correct and wise patriots on the site even when they declared that the transfer of Savchenka is the most stolen of all zrad. Now, for some reason, racial patriots in Ukraine agree with them. It’s just that they can’t figure it out with our cremators - whose zrad is more harmful. lol There Savchenko already in Odessa throw eggs, and this is a clear sign that Putinslill. belay Whether there will be more.
    4. Dam
      +3
      24 July 2016 19: 32
      Getting ready for a big war. If the situation does not change, you need to prepare for it and thereafter, as the card lies. Yes, all the same, our karma is such that a hundred years without war the elves will not be able to live. This time it will come to the end, if at all someone survives on the ball
  2. +18
    24 July 2016 15: 19
    But should we care that the West wants to hear? We must think about our safety first.
    1. +8
      24 July 2016 15: 35
      Quote: SMAKAROV49
      should we care what the west wants to hear? We must think about our safety first.

      Right in the west, they do not hear Russia, so you need to think only about yourself loved ones.
    2. +9
      24 July 2016 16: 05
      "At the same time, the motives, direction, institutional foundations and dynamics of mobilization planning remain unclear."

      And why should they be clear to journalists? Or do you propose to all interested people to give a separate book, including to gentlemen from NATO? They are also interested in ...
      And about - what they want to hear in the West and what not - a separate song. When necessary, our soloists will perform without invitation.
    3. +1
      24 July 2016 17: 54
      Quote: SMAKAROV49
      We must think about our safety first.

      That's right!
      I am glad that it seems that an understanding has come: the armed forces of such a state as the Russian Federation can be relatively small, albeit well equipped, ("compact") only in peacetime or during a local conflict.
      If a slightly larger confrontation, for example, the danger posed by banderlogy with a population of more than 40 million and a total border of more than 2000 km, then the deployment of the so-called units and formations of the frame can not do ...
      The work is not yet a plowed field, God forbid, mind and political will to military and state commanders. So that the phenomenon of an elephant in a china shop - perdyukov is no longer repeated
  3. +9
    24 July 2016 15: 31
    Firstly, Russia's defense is our own business, it is stupid to discuss foreign articles. Another thing is that when discussing the article, they would not notice other events in the country. After the first Yeltsin privatization, we were covered by the second Putin privatization. In the first privatized everyone who had the arrogance. Now the Russians are forbidden to privatize, only foreigners. Mr. Dvorkovich recently cursed very much when he found out that he wanted to allow Russian enterprises to privatize.
    Attention is the question if the enterprises have foreign owners, will these enterprises work for the Russian defense industry?
    1. +3
      24 July 2016 15: 44
      Quote: Gardamir
      Attention is the question if the enterprises have foreign owners, will these enterprises work for the Russian defense industry?

      If this brings money, then they will of course have their primary money.
      1. +1
        24 July 2016 17: 37
        Summer! 15.44. If this brings money, then they will of course have their primary money. smile And regardless of the costs, they impose sanctions. winked
    2. 0
      24 July 2016 16: 21
      If Russia is attacked, and the integrity of the Russian Federation is in danger, then all enterprises will immediately become nationalized, especially smart owners will have time to blame the hill, especially zealous and unyielding, they will remain here! All large and small enterprises will work I’m not going to force Russian people, lessons have been held .. remember and don’t forget! Yes, I think if there are those who don’t want, then I think there will be leverage from a friend of the GDP, the NKVD worked in good faith, I think and The FSB is not blundered! The war, you see, is it such a war, everything on our earth, everything will work for the good of the Motherland, and it doesn’t matter when you buy there !!!
      1. +5
        24 July 2016 17: 38
        Quote: igorka357
        If Russia is attacked

        --------------------
        Well, today on behalf of the IOC, an attack was made on Russia, so what? We washed ourselves and went to write meldonium in jars. Usmanov wrote a letter to Bach, “like a fencer to a fencer,” I ask you, Mr. President, and so on. Ugh. Attacks are carried out not only by armed forces, but also in other spheres.
        1. +2
          24 July 2016 18: 01
          Altona! 17.38. And here you are absolutely right! I support! Then another question of mobilization. In the Union, people (all) worked for the country and almost lived by registration. Agendas brought to addresses, lists went to work. Even when Chernobyl was liquidated, there were lists at the enterprise from the military enlistment office whom were taken for liquidation. Today, many enterprises or private or private entrepreneurs, many work as shift workers, many do not live by registration in other cities. In case of emergency, how to gather people? It is necessary to find by registration, to find where it works, what the private trader will say to the military commissar ??? Let's say they collected at school. It’s necessary to carry. Where to get the buses and who will refuel them? If you dig, a lot of questions are typed.
          1. 0
            24 July 2016 18: 29
            Quote: Region 34
            Let's say they collected at school. It’s necessary to carry. Where to get the buses and who will refuel them? If you dig, a lot of questions are typed.

            ----------------
            Found buses, collected, brought. And where to get fuel for transport? Where to get metal concrete, asphalt and wood for the construction of fortifications and rocky roads? Where to get personal protective equipment? It was the state mobility reserve at enterprises. I’m developing your idea further ... Airplanes for the transfer of troops to the exercises, and then, they refueled for 5 hours, private traders do not want to give kerosene. They require guarantees from the state for payment. And Serdyukov liquidated his own fuel bases at the time.
            PS And about the Olympics and similar provocations in international affairs, the USSR had a plan "B" than to answer "partners". And not humiliatingly ask "not to hit too hard." This concerned the financing of international organizations and some strong demarches.
          2. +3
            24 July 2016 18: 37
            There are a lot of questions - where to look for the enrolled staff? Who will run to notify (I really know where they will be sent when they try to hand in a summons)? Who will pay for tickets / buses (there is practically no ATP left in the region) / will buy gasoline? who will resolve issues with the owners of the workers - no one needs their absence now, they will be dismissed right there and new ones will be recruited - who of the hard workers in such situations will go to the "partisans" will be at least)?
            1. +1
              24 July 2016 18: 58
              Quote: your1970
              There are a lot of questions - where to look for the enrolled staff? Who will run to notify (I really know where they will be sent when they try to hand in a summons)? Who will pay for tickets / buses (there is practically no ATP left in the region) / will buy gasoline? who will resolve issues with the owners of the workers - no one needs their absence now, they will be dismissed right there and new ones will be recruited - who of the hard workers in such situations will go to the "partisans" will be at least)?

              Here I am talking about too, the system is destroyed, and if war. And what to do with the mass of the wounded, the military hospitals under the stool were shortened. If it comes to a serious armed conflict, then all these issues must be resolved, otherwise it will be trouble.
            2. 0
              25 July 2016 00: 05
              which of the hard workers in such situations will go to the "partisans"


              The "partisans"? It's funny. Thirty-year-olds who have not served fully. Rather, more than those who served .... We ran, hid, and got away with it. And what is there to be wise, our Minister of Defense has turned away from the army. And enough about that ...
        2. 0
          25 July 2016 14: 52
          The key words in my statement, the integrity of the Russian Federation and the military invasion, you misunderstood me a little, what does the IOC have to do with it? The IOC’s attack on our country threatens only the prestige of our sport, no more ... and transfer the country to military tracks because of the Mok, no one will become !!! You take an interest in the meaning of the phrase, the integrity of the state. You completely distorted the essence of my answer about the work of enterprises with foreign owners, having stuck with your IOC! Or do you think that we needed to send troops to the US coast, because the IOC attacked us?
      2. 0
        24 July 2016 20: 05
        Quote: igorka357
        If Russia is attacked, and the integrity of the Russian Federation is in danger, then all enterprises will be completely nationalized at once,



        Ahem ... Not until nationalization then it will be ...

        The means of attack have long been far from those used in the Great Patriotic War ...

        There is a reserve - there will be something to fight ... There is no reserve - and there is nothing to say ... There will not be a long and protracted war ...
        1. 0
          24 July 2016 20: 51
          Quote: weksha50
          There will be no long and protracted war ...

          Tell it to the Syrians and Afghans.
        2. 0
          28 July 2016 15: 05
          Hitler, with his blitzkriegs, and shock tank wedges, thought so too!
    3. +1
      24 July 2016 20: 01
      Quote: Gardamir
      Attention is the question if the enterprises have foreign owners, will these enterprises work for the Russian defense industry?


      We will not talk about foreign owners ... First of all, you need to deal with your own, there are also enough problems above the roof ...

      Mobility involves close coordination of the army-OPK_VPK-national economy ...
      And when, after all privatizations, each owner is his own god and master, how are these relations being built now ???

      Previously, each machine-mechanism was registered, any production was designed for quick re-profiling for military needs ... And now ???

      After all, a huge territory will not save now, weapons are completely different from those in the 2nd World War (WWII) ...

      It seems to me that the difficulties with mobility should now be big ... Moreover, the fact that it seems to have taken hold of it tightly and will determine the effective mechanism of its functioning inspires hope ...
      1. +2
        25 July 2016 07: 13
        Quote: weksha50
        Previously, each machine-mechanism was registered, any production was designed for quick re-profiling for military needs ... And now ???

        It’s sad now ... Mobilization from a huge number of enterprises is simply removed. Maybe this is the reason - who in a fleeting war (3-4 months of conducting OSB, then RSEU-pip ec) will be re-profiled? But the existing reserves, of course, will be needed.
        And then a terribly secret Rosrezerv crawls out onto the stage. Here, for example, in the Siberian Federal District, the deputy head of the mobilization reserve department was accepted in the pre-trial detention center - 100 high-security officers during the search and another 30 cars, rifles, and watches. His colleague suddenly quit.
        In other words: the state gives money for mobility. The consequence will show how much bureaucrats settles in the pockets of this tasty trough. May be.
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    4. +1
      24 July 2016 21: 26
      Quote: Gardamir
      Attention is the question if the enterprises have foreign owners, will these enterprises work for the Russian defense industry?

      And where are they going from the Russian Federation? wink
      There is a plant - well, so do you, a plant. And the "owner" THEN will receive something for the "requisition". If they don't write a lead pill "for aiding the enemy."
      In World War II, Parisian taxi drivers were recruited to carry a warrior, spying on someone belonging to the company. For example.
  4. -8
    24 July 2016 15: 34
    So the military registration and enlistment offices shortened everything, how did they gather to mobilize?
    1. -14
      24 July 2016 15: 43
      Quote: figvam
      So the military registration and enlistment offices shortened everything, how did they gather to mobilize?

      They will hold a piece of paper, they will tell on TV how everything turned out great and Shoigu will report on the air ... another window dressing ... the epic "the people and the army are one!"
      1. +1
        24 July 2016 16: 35
        They will hold a piece of paper, they will tell on TV how everything turned out great and Shoigu will report on the air ... another window dressing ... the epic "the people and the army are one!"
        Yeah, and the key to you is ... launcher. Right now, just stroke the shoelaces and we rush to report to you where, what and in what composition. It is said more than once - UNPREDICTABLE AND ARE SCARY IN ANGRY !!! Are the people and the army really united, or are you lying on the couch when the neighbor’s youngster rushes into the abrashka?
        1. +1
          24 July 2016 19: 08
          Pentagon son of a bitch, shake and tremble! I am not kidding! You still don't know the story. The only situation on the exchange.
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    4. +2
      24 July 2016 16: 45
      What are you talking about ...

      1. Verification of plans for the mobilization deployment of troops during the threatened period. Do I need to? Certainly. necessary. Warehouses .bases .their completeness .systems for hanging and calling up a mobile resource .the ability to deploy formations and units, their coordination. And most importantly, the readiness of local civil authorities to work in this period.
      Yes, all states are doing this.
      Naturally, conclusions and changes will be made in the organizational documents .., possibly, the structure of organs and tasks ..

      2. SKSHU "West 2017" is there something special here ??? Planned exercise with a period of 2 years. Checking one of the plans for a strategic defensive operation in the western theater of operations. In September 2016 in the Southern OK there will be exercises "Kavkaz-2016" .... intensive preparations are underway for it .. Do we need such exercises? Rhetorical question..
      3. Against the Russian Federation, NATO countries led by the United States are conducting real operations. Atlantic Resolve. Operation Atlantic Resolve since 2014
      interesting - take a look .. http://www.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/0514_Atlantic-Resolve .... Even canada caved in and carries out an operation in Europe
      operation “reassurance” Operation REASSURANCE
      http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/operations-abroad/nato-ee.page
      Notice the teachings. And real operations !!!
      Well. And the teachings of NATO countries like midges in hot weather .. with a bias on the young flank of the block ..
      http://www.shape.nato.int/exercises
    5. 0
      24 July 2016 17: 15
      Quote: figvam
      So the military registration and enlistment offices shortened everything, how did they gather to mobilize?

      The Soviet system of mobilization is no longer a priori incapable, since there is no basis for it, that is, that State. Now in Russia there is both the opportunity and the desire to create a new mobilization system that meets modern requirements. And God forbid that everything works out.
  5. +8
    24 July 2016 15: 35
    That's right, our armored train should be on the siding, in a state of combat readiness.
  6. +13
    24 July 2016 15: 40
    Unfortunately I must disappoint you. Weapons are there to fight. At the moment we fit into the overall picture of the imperialist community. And no matter how pathetically we talk about some mythical "special mission" of Russia, a special path of development and a national idea, the essence of the development of events remains the same as it was described by K. Marx, F. Engels and V. Lenin. In order not to greatly complicate you, I will give only a few short quotes.
    1. “Imperialism is capitalism at the stage of development when monopoly and financial capital dominated, export of capital has acquired outstanding importance, the world has begun to be divided by international trusts, and the division of the entire territory of the earth by the largest capitalist countries has ended” V. I. Lenin
    2. "The uneven development of capitalist countries in the era of imperialism leads to a sharp exacerbation of the struggle for colonies, markets and spheres of influence." V.I. Lenin
    3. "War is a phenomenon of class society, the basis of which is private ownership of the means of production. It is a continuation of the policy of certain classes by other, violent means" K. Marx, F. Engels
    4. ".. .. war is inevitable as long as society is divided into classes, while there is exploitation of man by man" V.I. Lenin
    T.O. sooner or later, insoluble contradictions arising between countries or alliances of countries, the struggle for sales markets and spheres of influence will lead to a logical result - a military solution to the problems and a new redivision of the world. And we, as the country of victorious capitalism, will also participate in this. A patriotic base can be brought under anything. Something like this. You can’t trample on science ...
    1. +4
      24 July 2016 16: 54
      Quote: Neputin
      Something like this. You can’t trample on science ...


      Breshet your science. Wars were in primitive communal society, and in Ancient Greece, and during the Middle Ages, when imperialism did not smell. And indeed, Marxism-Leninism is not a science.
      Wars are caused by the primary reflex of man to dominance. Which, in turn, is due to the evolutionary law of natural selection.
      And while there are Humans there will be wars. They will be until God is tired of it.
      Something like that.
      1. -1
        24 July 2016 21: 04
        Quote: Monos
        And indeed, Marxism-Leninism is not a science.
        Wars are caused by the primary reflex of man to dominance. Which, in turn, is due to the evolutionary law of natural selection.

        You juggle so easily about what is science and law and what is not. Aren't you making them up? And then they completely confused everything: if the "evolutionary law of natural selection" determines the "reflex of a person to domination", this "reflex" of yours is no longer primary, but secondary.
        And there are big doubts about your reflexes. I do not think that Hitler had from birth or acquired a reflex to attack the USSR and conquer the World in general, because the "reflex" is the simplest unconscious reaction of the body to irritation of the receptors. In your opinion, the one-year-old Adolf only yelled when he began to say that he wanted to attack Russia and conquer the whole world.
        1. +4
          24 July 2016 22: 19
          Quote: Алексей_К
          this "reflex" of yours is no longer primary, but secondary.


          This is scholasticism. You are confused in definitions. As a reason, it is secondary. But how the psycho-physiological reaction is primary. And Adik appeared even not at the age of one, but at the sperm stage. Like all of us. hi
    2. 0
      24 July 2016 19: 12
      “..Wars are inevitable while society is divided into classes, while there is exploitation of man by man” V.I. Lenin
      Oh Volodimer Ilyashevich! War is always inevitable. You read the Scripture poorly. Rather, I never read it.
  7. +5
    24 July 2016 15: 42
    Quote: The state of reserve formations, stocks of weapons and military equipment, the organization of the interaction of the headquarters with the executive authorities and military commissariats, and the readiness of the control system were checked. The mobilization readiness and ability to carry out the tasks of territorial defense with the mobilization of individual military command bodies and units was assessed.
    I am probably a pessimist, but the interaction of the headquarters with the executive authorities was destroyed during the rule of the URDO. recovery is very difficult and slow as we would like. The inertia of acts and regulations governing these measures must be eliminated, since in a rapidly changing environment in the world and within the country it requires prompt changes, which unfortunately does not happen. Well, checking the state of the storage of weapons is not superfluous, since "the gunpowder must be kept dry," and even more so that Russia was officially declared an enemy of the supposedly "civilized world." Even what nah ..... obscurity these measures are aimed at repelling the attack of the West on Russia. And do not be ashamed of these preparations and checks.
  8. +9
    24 July 2016 15: 44
    "Russia is reproached for isolating itself and keeping silent in the face of such facts that do not harmonize with either law or justice. They say that Russia is angry. Russia is not angry, Russia is concentrating" Prince Alexander Mikhailovich Gorchakov 1856. nothing has changed !!!
    1. -1
      24 July 2016 19: 14
      Then they wrote: focuses! These Trotskyists then began to spoil our language.
  9. +2
    24 July 2016 15: 56
    Moscow’s assurances that the country's mobility is not being tested with the aim of committing aggression, but to strengthen the protection of the state, the West does not want to hear.

    Because how to hear THIS is not in their plans!
  10. +4
    24 July 2016 15: 58
    At the same time, motives and orientation remain unclear., institutional framework and dynamics of mobilization planning. It might seem that military preparations are situational and have little to do with the development strategy of international relations and Russia's place in them. It is no coincidence that NATO accuses that the Russian side formally violates the Vienna Document 2011 on confidence- and security-building measures.

    Do you remember Igor Mamenko's story "Meeting the New Year"? There, two friends wandering through the forest in search of food fell into a den to a bear. The bear was asleep. To prevent him from waking up, they began to sing him a lullaby. Either they sang out of tune, or something ... but the bear woke up ...
    So, by analogy with the story, all of this NATO pack, wandering around Europe, failed with its whole hamlet in the den of the Russian Bear. belay It would be time for NATO to kill on the nose that they were singing so falsely, getting close to the Bear that they forced him to wake up. New plans, new events and ... what’s the strangest thing, no one will dedicate this NATO deeply into their plans ... No.
    1. 0
      25 July 2016 01: 08
      In my opinion, the author is upset that they did not report to him on all plans for mobilization. And he has nothing to tell his curators about. The rest of the letters are just a cover.
  11. +5
    24 July 2016 16: 00
    I don’t know correctly, or not, that in the military registration and enlistment offices there are now only puffy aunties of Balzac age, puny girls and well-fed pink-cheeked majors ... But, during the mobilization fees, I watched with my own eyes: confusion and slight panic of the military registration and enlistment offices, crowded with cars "territory of recruits" and the condescending smirks of the age "infantry". The starley-tanker who appeared, no one knows where, became the center of everyone's attention and the object of hopes for eliminating the mess that had arisen ... I am not against innovations in the army, but maybe not so "sharply" for reforming it is worth undertaking ?! soldier
    1. +6
      24 July 2016 16: 05
      Just sharply and necessary. By normal, you can immediately see who is who and determine solutions to overcome the stocks. I spoke out quite publicly, but I think if any military commissariat is interested in normal work, such conclusions should be made. Well, they will or not, time will tell. If only it were not too late ....
      1. +2
        24 July 2016 16: 44
        Quote: Pitot
        If only it were not too late ....

        I also hope that the very first military pensioner who visited the military registration and enlistment office at the hour of H after the report - "the command accepted" will bring order. You will have to deal with Serdyukov's legacy of optimization either for many years or by forceful methods.
  12. 0
    24 July 2016 16: 02
    It is necessary to switch to the IDF or Swiss mobilization system. To know where is your machine gun, where is the gas mask, the OZK and the BBM assigned to you personally, in a separate garage. Which you loved and spent several years in "civilian life". Then there will be "mobilization". The Jewish brothers have proven this in several Arab-Israeli wars. No need to invent anything new!
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 22: 17
      Quote: rruvim
      It is necessary to switch to the IDF system or the Swiss mobilization.

      Yeah. Tell me in what a SEVERE mess these systems worked. smile
      There is a "little difference" between hunting hares and hunting wild boars. So the IDF "hare specialists" can sleep well - we don't need their experience.
  13. 0
    24 July 2016 16: 10
    Who knows the requirements and conditions of service in the national guard?
    1. -8
      24 July 2016 16: 20
      Vote for "United Russia" wassat
    2. +3
      24 July 2016 16: 36
      One hassle with this Guard ...
      Vaughn Erdogan dissolves his Presidential Guard.
      There were many traitors there. They nearly overthrew the one they should
      were guarding ...
      Indira Gandhi's personal bodyguards "super guards" shot dead right in the bedroom.
      Emperor Paul, too ... - a snuffbox in the temple belay .
      Latin America is better not to remember: every second coup staged
      National Guards sad .
      1. +4
        24 July 2016 16: 42
        Quote: voyaka uh
        National Guards


        This is not the National Guard - these are the guardsmen. The time has come.
      2. -2
        24 July 2016 16: 43
        And who killed the old Rabin?
      3. 0
        24 July 2016 18: 30
        Rajiv Gandhi, by the way, was also killed by security ...
      4. +1
        24 July 2016 19: 46
        And how are they connected with ours? Rosguard is essentially a ministry of internal defense, not praetorians. Moscow Region is at war with the enemy abroad, and the Russian Guard is inside them. She has enough affairs. request
      5. 0
        24 July 2016 22: 16
        actually, therefore, I ask))) I wonder who and by what criteria is selected there ...
        1. 0
          24 July 2016 22: 33
          Well, so far, there is a reorganization of parts of the centuries, riot police, sobr and vkhr into a single structure. The personnel are the same as before. Officers of military schools - from institutes of military schools - St. Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Perm, Saratov and Vladikavkaz. The drugs are mostly double basses. When I served in the military commanders there were conscripts as well, I don’t know now - it seems like there were plans for some contractors to leave in the future. Former cop units have their own admission rules. hi
          1. 0
            28 July 2016 00: 05
            clearly ... thanks
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  14. +6
    24 July 2016 16: 49
    Quote: rruvim
    It is necessary to switch to the IDF or Swiss mobilization system. To know where is your machine gun, where is the gas mask, the OZK and the BBM assigned to you personally, in a separate garage. Which you loved and spent several years in "civilian life". Then there will be "mobilization". The Jewish brothers have proven this in several Arab-Israeli wars. No need to invent anything new!


    You, dear, when was the last time you looked at a map of the World?
    My area is larger than Switzerland. Neither SSBNs, nor strategic nuclear forces, nor airborne forces, nor anything else were seen there, and the USA and England did not voice Switzerland as enemy No. 1.
    The wars with the Arabs are not exactly what we had to endure when, with Napoleon and Hitler, the whole civilized Europe poured on us for company. Now there is something unimaginable and incomparable with previous wars and invasions, but it is necessary to prepare for this. Getting ready .., but only war really checks the degree of readiness.
    1. -3
      24 July 2016 22: 30
      You will also remember the battle on Kalka. In the "second", yes, the enterprises were exported to the Urals not in 1941, but much earlier. My parents' family was evacuated to Chebarkul in 1940. But there will be no global war now, at the moment. And the mobilization plans of the Soviet era worked quite well for themselves in the early 90s: in Chechnya, the Fergana Valley, Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh, in the Baltic States, in Konisberg, etc., depending on which side took advantage of them.
  15. +1
    24 July 2016 16: 55
    Well, to fight, so to fight. But, Westerners, we are fighting without conventions, we will not take you prisoner, only destruction ...
  16. -3
    24 July 2016 17: 15
    Quote: rruvim
    It is necessary to switch to the IDF or Swiss mobilization system. To know where is your machine gun, where is the gas mask, the OZK and the BBM assigned to you personally, in a separate garage. Which you loved and spent several years in "civilian life". Then there will be "mobilization". The Jewish brothers have proven this in several Arab-Israeli wars. No need to invent anything new!

    RIGHT TO ALL 100%, and everything else is just chatter. Every liable person should know what to do when reporting and not run in search of an answer, what to do and where to run.
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 20: 20
      private person
      "Everyone who is obligated should know what to do when communicating and not run in search of an answer, what to do and where to run." - they knew before that they had to run to the military registration and enlistment office (with a duffel bag / kettle / mug / food for 3 days and that's it! ! And now you resort to the military registration and enlistment office, and it was reduced the year before last ... The military commissar is waiting for buses, and the ATP closed a month ago .. The region is waiting for the appointees - and they are on duty in the North ... and people .... A banal question - warning the population about emergencies does not work properly, which is systematically confirmed in case of any floods / fires ...
  17. +1
    24 July 2016 17: 24
    Moscow’s assurances that the country's mobility is not being tested with the aim of committing aggression, but to strengthen the protection of the state, the West does not want to hear.

    And to hell with them, they hear and listen only to themselves. But our soul is calm
    will be.
  18. +1
    24 July 2016 17: 38
    I read, read, like not a stupid man, and I understood only one thing, that this libel was laid out by the enemy of our country. And now I very much doubt the loyalty of this site to our Motherland! And I was full of "bright hopes". It is very bitter to be disappointed. Very...
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 19: 12
      Don't worry, "take care of your pince-nez" !!! From whatever point of view, do not look, but in reality YOU should follow the military registration and enlistment office, and not the military registration and enlistment office for you! Do you know where your military enlistment office is now? Do you know if your mobile prescription is valid (it’s such a multi-colored piece of paper in every ticket)? If you know, then you are in the TOPIC !!! And if you don't know, then the site is not a doctor, but a reminder - go and take an interest!
      1. 0
        24 July 2016 20: 22
        Are you Artyom to me, or to the previous commentator ??? I already have no time to worry, after some time it’s time to prepare for a meeting with the Lord ... At our military registration and enlistment office it has long been deregistered ...
      2. +1
        24 July 2016 20: 26
        I watched here about 5 years ago, like a friend who had lost his military ID (they began to demand at a new job), he ran around the military registration and enlistment offices for half a year (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), spat and started another look for work (all in the same Moscow). Guess-really Does he have a mobile prescription ???? And does he need it with this attitude ???? And will anyone find him in case of war, however, the familiar patriot himself will come if there really is a war, and if not a patriot?
  19. 0
    24 July 2016 17: 40
    This statement is true here and now, but it does not take into account the distant prospect at all, and the process of turning towards the strengthening of the military component in the economy causes the West to fear that, having reached a critical mass, Russian weapons might or should even be directed against someone.

    That's right, if Russia had the same strong army as the USSR, they would put horseradish on the United States and their sanctions, and Europe would not even think about any sanctions against Russia.
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 18: 49
      Sergey333
      "a strong army, like that of the USSR, the hell would be put on the United States and their sanctions"if you think that you just came up with sanctions yesterday, you just didn’t know about them request (well, or did not pay attention to not knowing feel-they were called then "embargo" fool ) and the strength of our army had absolutely no influence on this: Jackson Vanik amendment (1974), ignoring the Olympics-80 and retaliatory ignoring of Los Angeles 1984, the struggle for seafood (1970-74), grain supplies (70s), pipes for gas pipelines (1962 onwards)

      December 29, 1981, US President Ronald Reagan announced trade sanctions against the USSR, including the cessation of supplies of materials intended for the construction of the Siberian gas pipeline.

      Regarding US sanctions, Andreas Mayer-Landrut, the FRG ambassador to the USSR in the 1980s, said the following: “The Americans were very interested in the embargo against the Soviet Union. It is interesting that the American grain export lobby in 1981 got the same Reagan's exclusive right to export grain to the USSR, and businessman Armand Hammer received permission to supply fertilizers.Pressure was exerted on Germany to refuse the gas-pipe deal, but Bonn was firmly in the position that this agreement was concluded earlier, and therefore it is not subject to the embargo. "
      1. +1
        24 July 2016 19: 23
        and even a little earlier there were sanctions on trade in general, when the gold dimes they didn’t take (like money from a non-existent state) and ours had to pay with values ​​from Gokhran, churches and others — and this was not because of the stupidity / wrecking of our leaders, but it was absolutely necessary measure, well, there was nothing to pay at all .....
        Z.Y. ours later found a way out - by issuing the royal lol gold chervonets. They were accepted abroad as absolutely legal tender ...
        Because of this, for some years, numismatists at the price of scrap cost + 10-20%.
  20. -1
    24 July 2016 18: 21
    How to mobilize, even if the Ministry of Defense understands this, it was still not enough to think for them.
  21. +1
    24 July 2016 19: 26
    The article is taken from a completely "liberal" (liberoid) source. The author laments that the mobilization plans of the Russian Federation are a state secret. For camouflage, he allowed a little objectivity, but he himself remained anonymous. We don't need the sympathy of the fifth column!
  22. +2
    24 July 2016 19: 43
    The author is worried that Russia does not behave in accordance with the place in international relations that it is destined for. From this the author dislikes me. Such an opinion, according to the Rules of the site. The article is a minus.
  23. 0
    24 July 2016 20: 02
    I did not understand the article, one here - the other there ... Mashanina ....
    Our mobilization is half paper, because there is no money to spend full.
  24. +3
    24 July 2016 20: 28
    All my adult life I have been creating arms and military equipment, consumer goods, and from 1979 to 1990 (until Yeltsin liquidated 9 defense ministries) I headed the GU of one of them. Constantly once every two years, it was supposed to conduct headquarters exercises. I told the readers of VO about one of them, "Staff Exercises in Industry". Please read on how to work. These are all omitted at present. But in vain. I have the honor.
  25. 0
    24 July 2016 20: 48
    Quote: "At the same time, the motives, direction, institutional foundations and dynamics of mobilization planning remain unclear."
    Schaub I lived so wood, slept better. The Germans changed the doctrine - we are AGAIN "opponents", and the author is "unclear" why our mobplan is being changed.
    As it was in the film: "You slept through the 3rd world war."
    I don’t even want to mention the "jolly" with the "Iraqi defense missile defense", which with a "light movement of the hand" (rocket on the machine + PO) becomes offensive.
  26. 0
    24 July 2016 21: 03
    Quote: "The large-scale rearmament of the Russian army means a transition from the development of production facilities to the mass production of weapons and the accumulation of military reserves."
    When weapons were sold for pennies and pro. from. and it sounded like a 404 - it was "normal". And as they began to replace outdated systems - so immediately "oh-ay, the Russians are preparing a war."
    author, DRINK YADU! "Rubber product No. 2".
    We are not Papuans. We will not fight with a bow and arrows. Even "modern", such as "Oplot" and other shnyaga from 404.
    The rearmament of the army is a CONTINUOUS process. If EBN reduced this process to 0, then this does not mean that it will always be so.
  27. -1
    24 July 2016 21: 11
    Once I had a chance "with one eye" to look at the Mobilization Plan of the USSR (A document labeled "Of special importance" with "000")! In general, I've seen only two such "important" documents in my life - this first, and the second, revealed the reasons for the Afghan, Angolan and Iraqi campaigns: extremely interesting documents? It would be interesting to look at this Plan: to compare both options and understand how the Russian military thought (strategy) differs from the Soviet one? True, they say that the Soviet one was copied from the tsarist mob. plan! I cannot judge how true this is, but the general "features" (provisions) are obvious: now there is a lot of information on the deployment of the army since the outbreak of the First World War in July-August 1914. At the same time, it was precisely the weak organization "according to the mobilization plan in case of the outbreak of war" that prevented Russia from immediately seizing the strategic initiative and defeating Prussia in the battle of Gumbinene in the first months? However, I will leave this reasoning to military analysts or historians - the main thing is, what is the strategy of modern Russia now and whether our army and navy are capable of "deploying" in 72 hours, and not in 14 days as before?
    1. -1
      24 July 2016 21: 32
      Not! Not capable! All these jokes about the readiness of units to deploy and their readiness to conduct hostilities - P R O F A N A C I Y !!!!
    2. 0
      24 July 2016 22: 05
      Quote: KudrevKN
      Once I had a chance "with one eye" to look at the Mobilization Plan of the USSR (A document labeled "Of special importance" with "000")!

      Yeah. The problem is that if REALLY could look at the mobplane, then not only here, but also to his wife (lover, etc.) FIG would have hinted about this. Chat more ...
      1. 0
        25 July 2016 09: 32
        I'm not chatting, I'm writing about it! I gave a subscription, serving in the USSR and that country, not Russia? And nevertheless, for almost 15 years he could not get a foreign one. passport, but now "a free bird" - I fly wherever I want and according to Article 29 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation I am free to express my thoughts: Have you seen in my commentary at least any stated fact (detail) (except for the name of the document) or figures? "If you burn yourself with milk, there is nothing to blow on the water!" Yes, and "FIG" is somehow vulgar for our expert community, and even more so among officers? Don't you think, gentlemen?
  28. 0
    24 July 2016 21: 32
    I wonder how many "warehouse warrants" have left their posts?
  29. +2
    24 July 2016 21: 53
    Dear readers! Mobilization is a very complex process and this process begins long before the outbreak of hostilities. It all starts with the fact that enterprises in advance begin to produce military products in large quantities. This stage is not so noticeable, because most people don’t even know about it. This stage has already begun in Russia.
    At the same time, there is an increase in strategic food supplies. But only relevant specialists know about this process. It seems that this process has also begun in Russia, because I saw with my own eyes on central television a story about underground strategic reserves of sugar. It was not repeated on any channel.
    Mobilization of the population is also a matter of more than one day or even a month. It all starts with the noticed mobilization in aggressor countries. Of course, when military commissariats and receiving military units never really did this, then there will be confusion. But this is a matter of a few days when the gnawers will be shot, the rest will organize the process of mobilization of the population perfectly. The modern aggressor will also have this question (except for Israel and Syria).
    I want to note that in Russia the size of the army has already been increased from 900 thousand people. up to 2 million people.
    So the process of mobilization in Russia is already in full swing. In the West they also see this, and they howl and declare us aggressors.
    I would like to add. The war with Russia can be different: this is an ordinary local war with a state or group of states, this is a global non-nuclear strike by the USA and NATO against Russia, and this is a war with the use of nuclear weapons. In the event of a nuclear strike, mobilization of the population can be forgotten. After the global non-nuclear strike, all of Russia's infrastructure and industry could be destroyed. In such conditions, mobilization is possible, but with great difficulties, because the leadership of the Country and the Regions and in the army may be destroyed.
    It should be borne in mind that the Perimeter system in this case will automatically launch a global nuclear strike against all potential aggressors. They will also answer us and you can also forget about the mobilization of the population.
    1. 0
      24 July 2016 22: 39
      There is no "perimeter"! No need to invent. No one will allow "robots" to control humanity, for now. Mobilization must be in the mind. If you have the stamp "liable for military service" in your passport, then you should empathize with it. Question: the stamp is worth it, what will I do? If anything ... I don't know, and a lot of my friends as well.
    2. 0
      25 July 2016 09: 23
      A global non-nuclear strike against Russia will entail a global NUCLEAR response on our part. So only the 1 and 3 options are possible.
  30. 0
    24 July 2016 22: 48
    There are two examples of the latest mobilization in terms of logistics. During the Vietnam War, the Amerians completely subordinated the container fleet (then it was modern) for the needs of their transportation, while including all ships that sailed under offshore (flags of convenience). We bought some Turkish wreckage on the Syrian Express. Because there is no one and nowhere to mobilize the transport fleet.
  31. +1
    24 July 2016 23: 06
    Proper mobilization is the key to victory. Even our "announcer" friends could not do it. To mobilize 1991, the Iraqis did not go to the assembly points, everyone was "tired" of the war with Iran. In 2003, there was no one to go out.
  32. 0
    25 July 2016 05: 07
    Quote: KudrevKN
    At the same time, it was precisely the weak organization "according to the mobilization plan in case of the outbreak of war" that prevented Russia from immediately seizing the strategic initiative and defeating Prussia in the battle of Gumbinene in the first months?

    Is there anything that the operation in East Prussia was carried out outside of any mobilization plans in general? What did not finish these same mobplanes, went to save the allies?
    1. 0
      25 July 2016 09: 23
      Exactly "nothing" - in the first months of the war they put the whole guard, which they had been preparing for years (decades), while the mobilized "bast shoes" were going to the war - were they driven to recruiting stations from the villages? and then there was no one to protect tsarism from the revolution? You haven’t thought about this, my inquisitive colleague?
      1. 0
        25 July 2016 12: 50
        What did this guard eat? Holy Spirit? Or the very benefits that the "bast shoes" produced? In your saying there is a grain of the essence of today's army. If everyone is ready and happy to receive money and run through the teachings, then most do not want to die among the first. Sorry guys, you came to the army, so sooner or later you will have to die for the gestures of politicians, not the officer's special forces will always take the rap.