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Media: the quality of new Ukrainian mortars leaves much to be desired

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The Ukrainian military is dissatisfied with the quality of the new 120-mm “Molot” mortars made by the Mayak plant in Kiev, follows from the explanatory note by the commander of one of the mortar batteries, which was placed at the disposal of the resource “Ukrainian Military Portal”.



“The document refers to the experience of operating a battery set of six mortars, which 21 June 2016 received a battery in the city of Orzhiv, Rivne region (apparently from the first batch of mortars M-120-15, transferred to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine in March). In the course of conducting special tactics, first two mortars, and then the rest of the others got stuck in the lifting mechanism ”, the blog article quotes bmpd.



All faults were noticed during practical shooting.

“Among other problems is the quality of the metal, which very quickly begins to rust and oxidize. In addition, the paint on the mortars "peels off" under the action of sunlight and quickly erased. Also, there are questions about the material of the mechanisms of guidance and the mechanism of double loading. And is it worth weapon a lot, according to the invoice for obtaining mortar M120-15 "Hammer" - 483512,40 hryvnia (more than a million rubles) per unit, ”writes the resource.



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  1. Prisoner
    Prisoner 18 July 2016 12: 24
    +26
    But do not want anything. The worse Ukrainian mortars the better.
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 July 2016 12: 27
      +10
      So after all, they produce it at Poroshenko’s enterprises ... he only solves the issues of his own pocket, well, to the hand of New Russia. wink
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 18 July 2016 12: 52
        +11
        Quote: cniza
        So after all, they produce it at Poroshenko’s enterprises ... he only solves the issues of his own pocket, well, to the hand of New Russia. wink

        The problem is, mines are not produced in Ukraine. But they produce it in Donetsk. laughing
        1. sclerosis
          sclerosis 18 July 2016 13: 27
          +2
          The lack of any production or technology in ancient ukrov is compensated by a huge number of very different weapons and ammunition of Soviet standards in the countries of Eastern Europe. Unfortunately.
        2. Orionvit
          Orionvit 18 July 2016 16: 54
          +2
          Ammunition from stocks of the Soviet Union there is enough for another twenty years. Not everything was sold, not everything was burned out in warehouses. It’s sad.
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    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 18 July 2016 12: 33
      +8
      This is especially pleased
      .. there are questions to the material .. double loading mechanism
      The mine’s rupture in the barrel channel is a wonderful surprise from Ukrainian defenders!
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 18 July 2016 16: 57
        +4
        The article pleased, and some say that there is no good news from Ukraine.
    4. Altona
      Altona 18 July 2016 13: 14
      +3
      Quote: Captive
      The worse Ukrainian mortars the better.

      ------------------
      They would call it immediately, hohlomet.
    5. Maxom75
      Maxom75 18 July 2016 15: 00
      +1
      Now, if they still could not shoot, then they would not have a price)))
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 18 July 2016 15: 52
      +5
      But it’s easier than a mortar, only boots ...
    7. Douel
      Douel 18 July 2016 23: 51
      0
      Quote: Captive
      But do not want anything. The worse Ukrainian mortars the better.

      And how to let such a trophy?
  2. igor67
    igor67 18 July 2016 12: 25
    +21
    The metal on the lifting mechanism may not correspond to the maintenance, but there is no lubrication at all, it’s dry
    1. DMB_95
      DMB_95 18 July 2016 12: 37
      +9
      Quote: igor67
      The metal on the lifting mechanism may not correspond to the maintenance, but there is no lubrication at all, it’s dry

      Grease from strategic fat. Issued by decision of the General Staff and the Fuhrer.
    2. Verdun
      Verdun 18 July 2016 14: 37
      +5
      Quote: igor67
      The metal on the lifting mechanism may not correspond to the maintenance, but there is no lubrication at all, it’s dry

      This is not a hetman thing - to pick one's grease! Everyone is busy fighting for independence and there is no time for such trifles. But another thing is curious. If there are problems with such relatively simple structures as mortars, then how are things going with more complex equipment - airplanes or tanks?
      1. Krasniy_lis
        Krasniy_lis 18 July 2016 16: 10
        +1
        Quote: Verdun
        then how are things going with more complex equipment - airplanes or tanks?

        how how. The armored car is a shame, the armor burst, the govnokater are unfinished, the planes know how to fly, the tanks come from the repair tanks in a condition that they themselves can’t reach)))
        Everything as usual. Even fires at training grounds with detonation of bk are strictly according to plan)))
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 18 July 2016 12: 26
    +8
    I hope their mortars also explode when fired! bully
  4. Teberii
    Teberii 18 July 2016 12: 27
    +3
    The number of ghouls always gives rise to a similar quality.
  5. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 July 2016 12: 27
    +3
    Ukrainian weapons will soon be akin to Japanese boxing!
  6. mpzss
    mpzss 18 July 2016 12: 28
    +4
    and didn’t try to lubricate !? lol
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 18 July 2016 12: 56
      +4
      Lubricated at headquarters from the brigade and above. Senya, for example, was already smeared from head to toe and the slave left the homeland. laughing As previously promised.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 July 2016 12: 29
    +4
    Let them rejoice that the trunks are not inflated. wassat And there is no lubrication on the mechanisms. Do horses believe that weapon mechanisms do not need to be lubricated?
  8. evil partisan
    evil partisan 18 July 2016 12: 32
    +6
    Well, if they cannot make a mortar by way, then I don’t worry about their long-range missiles yes .
    1. Alex_Tug
      Alex_Tug 18 July 2016 15: 20
      +1
      That's just what rockets need to worry about. It will not reach amers, but it can ... beat.
  9. DMB_95
    DMB_95 18 July 2016 12: 32
    +12
    Now on the outskirts they can’t even make steel weapons .. The Union left them so MUCH everything, everything is just ... pro ... Yes, they went to ...
    1. bovig
      bovig 18 July 2016 16: 45
      +2
      Quote: DMB_95
      Now on the outskirts they can’t even make steel weapons .. The Union left them so MUCH everything, everything is just ... pro ... Yes, they went to ...

      Now the new term is used instead of "just ... pro ..." - DECOMMUNIZED!))))
  10. Abbra
    Abbra 18 July 2016 12: 33
    +17
    A rare photo of the times of the Great Patriotic War ... Our fighters rest after the battle. The real war. Real mortars. Everything is without embellishment and gloss ... A real mortar, as well as any type of weapon, should not be afraid of dirt, cold, water, or nothing at all. And if the paint was peeling and rust appeared even before the real battles, then with the industry that produces SUCH - everything is clear ...
  11. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 18 July 2016 12: 35
    +4
    Really in all Ukraine there was no shmatochka of fat? Survived.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 18 July 2016 14: 07
      +3
      Really in all Ukraine there was no shmatochka of fat ?,
      found something found, but to smear them piece of iron?
  12. spike-110
    spike-110 18 July 2016 12: 41
    +1
    for more than twenty years they were breaking up the army, and when the roasted rooster pecked, we burst into flames ... we also went through a shortage of money for the army ... it's good that we remembered in time ... just amazed at our Soviet designers ... how to be able to make a weapon to work and also with protection "from the fool" .. everything is simple and reliable .. now they probably don’t do that .. now I understand why Ukraine is waiting for gifts from "friends" from NATO .. ​​and lethal gifts ..
    1. Senior manager
      Senior manager 18 July 2016 18: 02
      +1
      And they don’t give them lethal, so as not to shoot themselves. It’s a complicated weapon, it’s not a mortar for you.
  13. sisa29
    sisa29 18 July 2016 12: 51
    -1
    Yes, from storage it is not new, I could not rust the new one, although the old ones could also be greased.
  14. Moore
    Moore 18 July 2016 12: 51
    +5
    But I strongly welcome the appearance of such products in the Armed Forces.
    The more there are, the fewer people they can kill.
  15. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 18 July 2016 13: 00
    +3
    There are also questions to the material of guidance mechanisms and double loading mechanism. belay
    I do not know whose "blunder", BUT I have never seen such a MECHANISM in the set of a mortar, but the "FUSE from double loading" is another matter. Someone does not know the materiel, but beautifully balak.

    “Among other problems is the quality of the metal, which very quickly begins to rust and oxidize.
    I think the matter is not in the metal, but in the handling of it. And that would not rust - lubricate the tray, and observe the painting technology.
    Looks like "Muscovites" oaths again committed sabotage.
  16. Yon_Silent
    Yon_Silent 18 July 2016 13: 09
    +1
    Banal carelessness or "economy" in production. What kind of designer is this, who did not write the coating in the drawing on the pipe? Where did the technologists look and the acceptance? Or in some garage they did it on their knees, it turns out.
  17. sgr291158
    sgr291158 18 July 2016 13: 11
    +2
    Forgot to say that he also shoots at his own.
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 18 July 2016 15: 58
    +1
    This 120mm mortar is a hundred years old at lunchtime. It was produced during the Second World War gross, in theory the simplest materials and technologies were used, how could it be done wrong?
  19. bovig
    bovig 18 July 2016 16: 40
    +1
    Presumably, there is a violation of technology - after assembly they forgot to process it with a file!)))))
  20. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 18 July 2016 16: 46
    0
    Quote: Krasniy_lis
    Quote: Verdun
    then how are things going with more complex equipment - airplanes or tanks?

    how how. The armored car is a shame, the armor burst, the govnokater are unfinished, the planes know how to fly, the tanks come from the repair tanks in a condition that they themselves can’t reach)))
    Everything as usual. Even fires at training grounds with detonation of bk are strictly according to plan)))

    Yesterday, the SU-24 catapulted the pilot and rushed to his homeland ... :-) :-) :-)
  21. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 18 July 2016 16: 50
    0
    Quote: DMB_95
    Quote: igor67
    The metal on the lifting mechanism may not correspond to the maintenance, but there is no lubrication at all, it’s dry

    Grease from strategic fat. Issued by decision of the General Staff and the Fuhrer.

    Salom iron to smear? Yes, I right now am
  22. rumatam
    rumatam 18 July 2016 17: 11
    +1
    it’s necessary to look after the weapon, but it’s dry, I haven’t seen the grease, zila?
  23. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 18 July 2016 20: 41
    +2
    Such a "high-quality" mortar is very suitable for such a loader! yes
  24. Turkir
    Turkir 18 July 2016 21: 01
    0
    Media: the quality of new Ukrainian mortars leaves much to be desired

    If you pour moonshine into the mortar, the mine flies on.
    Ukrainian soldier! Be a patriot!
    Demand moonshine from your commanders!
  25. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 18 July 2016 22: 16
    0
    Weapons love affection, cleanliness and lubrication, and not moonshine with lard. And the mortars seem to have been picked up from the landfill, but they weren’t brought to mind.