Red level of terrorist threat in Almaty

The red level of the terrorist threat was announced in the largest city of Kazakhstan, Alma-Ata (Almaty). First, information about the shooting at the district police department appeared on social networks, then the leading Kazakhstani began to replicate it news resources. And after some time, major information portals of Kazakhstan announced "carrying out technical work" or "access errors". The vast majority of media that continue to work on the Internet do not publish any details about the situation in Alma-Ata.

IA Sputnik reports that the attackers fired at the police building and attempted to capture it. As a result of the shelling, two law enforcement officers died, several more policemen were injured.

From social networks (Bolat Mukashev):

LIGHTNING!!! URGENTLY !!! Abylaikhan Tole bi exchanged fire between policemen and unknowns !! One of the employees of the Department of Internal Affairs inside the car is covered in blood, two other policemen are lying on the street right on the road. # Almaty

It is not yet known exactly how many people attacked the police. Initially, it was said about two armed men, then they started talking about one attacker, armed with automatic weapons. Previously reported that the attacker may be involved in radical Muslim groups operating in Central Asia.

The official authorities of the country are asking the residents of Almaty not to leave their homes for the duration of the special operation.

Comments

[Military Builder]

So here we are **

[aleksfill]

So far the neighbor has and it seems that this is not a prelude, but a continuation, but where
and who has the score of this opus, who is the conductor?

[INVESTOR]

Mattresses are climbing up to us with their tentacles from all sides, in Kazakhstan urgently it is necessary to crush them with draconian measures, otherwise the trouble will be big.

[Temples]

The trouble happened a long time ago - the CIS.

Independent ...

Just there is no independence of the weak.
And no one needs these states to be strong.
The issue of addiction will be regularly raised.

These are realities.

[Zymran]

Better info from news sites than rumors.

[Temples]

Better info from news sites than rumors.

News sites are better than rumors?

Or did you find information about the "cannon-shooting" of your generals in Korea not from the news media?
The press has long been yellow.

And this is not our invention.

[Zymran]

They forgot to ask you what to discuss and what not.

And the KNB does not hide information about the attacks

http://knb.kz/ru/archive/article.htm?id=10669816@egNews

And ordinary media do not hide https://www.nur.kz/

[HERMES]

Comrades ... this has definitely begun.

"Shootout in the courtyard of the ministry in Tbilisi"

http://haqqin.az/news/75600

[Temples]

But what about this:

The information appeared in the media with reference to the teacher of the Serpukhov branch of the Strategic Missile Forces Academy Alexey Solodovnikov about the “strategic bomber being developed in the Russian Federation capable of performing tasks in space” is untrue, TASS reports the content of a refutation received from the military department yesterday.

News sites! Hooray!!!
After all, only the lazy was not marked by this "news".

Make minuses gentlemen who believed in the media.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Tell me the news from speedinfo seriously take ?!

[Pushkar77]

Here is a photo of the rebel who fired, "The red level seems to have been removed," but all military units have been alerted, the security of the arsenals has been strengthened. To cut off the eggs, infection.

[kenig1]

The Alma-Ata City Counter-Terrorism Operational Headquarters confirmed that as a result of the armed attack in Alma-Ata, there were deaths among police officers.

“A special plan“ Interception ”was introduced in the city of Alma-Ata. There are fatalities among police officers. One of the attackers was detained, one is wanted, ”RIA Novosti quoted the headquarters as saying.

[brasist]

The “red” level of terrorist danger in Almaty was removed by the decision of the head of the Republican Operational Headquarters for Combating Terrorism, the suspect in committing illegal actions was detained, BNews.kz reports.

During the detention, he resisted, in connection with which he was neutralized. Currently, the detainee is in custody.

During the complex of operational and special measures it was established that early this morning the suspect committed a robbery against a private taxi driver, as a result of which a young woman, a taxi passenger, died.

Currently, the situation in the city is stable, there are no threats.

As a result of illegal actions from among law enforcement officials and civilians, 5 people were killed and 7 more injured. As a result of the shootout, 8 people are being treated in medical organizations of Almaty.

Archival photo of azattyq.org

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: dauria

Officials block access to information

and who is blocking what for you ?!
https://tengrinews.kz/events/antiterroristicheskaya-operatsiya-almatyi-hronologi
ya-298854 /
read develop
this is the BBC http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36822541

[CONTROL]

Quote: Temples

The trouble happened a long time ago - the CIS.

I attended such a "revelation", and maybe an observation ...
Here - the Soviet Union collapsed through joint efforts! Under the pretext that - democracy, they say, egalite liberte fraternite ... we will all be self-sufficient, we will feed ourselves, we will dress, we will shoe ourselves ... we will wash ... And then - not all this insatiable Russia should be fed! ...
And what about today - after, well - 25 years? At least ONE former republic can boast that it lives better - than in THAT Union, or in THIS Russia? Maybe Belarus has grown two more hands instead of legs, stretched out in handfuls to Russia: "Give me money, give me!" Or the Baltics - small, but proud ... albeit poor ... Georgia - ... are the tangerines over? or poor harvest of grapes? ...
... for Ukraine - there are not even such words in the richest in the expression of Russian language ...
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The question is purely rhetorical - well, it had to be: go against the will of the people, quite clearly expressed at the very referendum? After all - guys, you’ll all be gathered back under one wing! focusing on the harshest situation in the world - to beat handy and dad handy ...
... but you will have to "beat" him ... It's a pity that I won't have to live in this wonderful time ... for me - for sure! ...

[aksakal]

Quote: CONTROL

And then-not all are there to feed this insatiable Russia! ...

- Do not turn upside down, now the Russians are white and fluffy! Well, if you remember those years? - maybe it was the Russians who were yelling that they were tired of feeding all "these Asians" !? And Yeltsin, going to meet this scream, declared the state sovereignty of the RSFSR - right? Why are you going from a sore head to a healthy one? You "fed everyone" more than anyone else - now there is no need to groan, you yourself have ruined everything, it is the Russians with ukrami for a couple! There was no one else in Belovezhskaya Pushcha! Oh yes, Belarusians were ... That does not change the essence.
And we can cope with the threat, we are not the first. Although the level of training of our security forces is depressing ... One bearded man sends seven cops to the hospital, of which three have already passed away. And a cop bullet along the way hooked the airport hard worker to Camry, who is generally out of work there. Dashing trouble began, learn.

[Temples]

Well, if you remember those years? - maybe the Russians were yelling that they were tired of feeding all "these Asians"!

You poor fellows, the Russians forced to secede?

This is something new!!!

You can sell this topic to kaklam. And jointly demand compensation.
The pier was driven out into the street by the unconscious.
Made homeless.
The Russians are to blame. (although this is not new)

[Talgat]

Quote: Temples

You poor fellows, the Russians forced to secede?

This is something new!!!

In vain you do not hear the respected Aksakal! In fact, he is right

And I, and our old people. and even our children are raised as Soviet people

The death of our homeland of the USSR was a tragedy - and the subsequent 90 e do not even want to remember.

Oil prices made it possible for Kazakhstan and Russia to get on their feet - but two problems remained - geopolitical weakness due to the collapse of the empire (you yourself understand that the Eurasian troika - Belarusians Kazakhstan and the center - Russia - all together will not replace the USSR anyway - not enough of us ) The second problem - social injustice - the seizure by oligarchs of industries that were built by the whole people

Kazakhstan did not leave the USSR at all - the Belovezhskaya agreements were secretly signed by 3 "Slavic leaders" - although I cannot even call these traitors a Slav - they are not Slavs, but some kind of geeks. The Slavs never did this

We were left in fact alone - at the same time leaving all of Central Asia - it’s true
... Then the liberal Moscow propaganda called all Russia to "Europe". Solzhenitsyn called for throwing off the "yoke of Central Asia and Kazakhstan." Shouted "stop feeding the parasites." Until now on the site I hear the voices of stupid Natsiks "stop feeding the Asians" or something like "Russia within the Garden Ring"

All the initiatives and proposals of Kazakhstan for reintegration were simply ignored.

Then a more adequate leader came - Putin and heard our Nazarbayev

His disappointment with the West also helped a lot - he realized that Russia is not expected in Europe - on the contrary, they will crush and kill

[Vladimir Anatolyevich]

It is absolutely correct to the question of the collapse of the USSR: Russia, Belarus and Ukraine signed. Only I don’t remember that any of the republics suddenly renounced sovereignty about which BN Yeltsin said "Take as much as you can swallow." But this is not the time to look for those who are right and guilty in that tragedy of a great and united country. Now is the time to wake up and unite. Brothers.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: aksakal

Don't turn it upside down, now Russians are white and fluffy! Well, if you remember those years? - maybe it was the Russians who were yelling that they were tired of feeding all "these Asians" !?

everyone shouted and the Russian gopot and Asians and the Baltic states and the Belarusians and Ukrainians.
all are to blame, WE ALL TRAINED THE MOTHERLAND, albeit by stupidity and not understanding

[saltickov.]

Yes, the pancake of more than one Kazakh was not expelled from Russia, although the Russians were persecuted in packs, and not only from Kazakhstan.

[HERMES]

Quote: CONTROL

At least ONE former republic can boast that it lives better - than in THAT Union, or in THIS Russia? Maybe Belarus has grown two more hands instead of legs, stretched out in handfuls to Russia: "Give me money, give me!" Or the Baltic states - small, but proud ... albeit poor ... Georgia - ... are the tangerines over? or a poor harvest of grapes? ...

Azerbaijan lives at the level, Baku at the level of Moscow, the outback is being built at an accelerated pace (but our chungachgooks will not leave Russia for their rams - do not expect unless of course they are kicked out ) ... lives with the "inhuman regime of the Aliyev clan", with the "fear that the Armenians will seize everything," and so on ... so far it is quiet here. Although all this religious, separatist and oppositional turmoil should have started with us. Azerbaijan seemed to be the easiest target for such a strike ... it didn’t work out. So before every important event, it starts to stink from Europe ... does it violate the "human rights", oppress the opposition, distort dermocracy, etc. How much mud has been poured on us recently from Europe. Yes, the very first enemies of any State are political parties and oppositionists (especially with an external deployment and who have a lot of money) ... urds who, hiding behind the people, are trying to take power into their own hands. 0th column in the flesh so that they ...

[Now we are free]

Everything is predictable: 1. Georgia 2. Ukraine 3. Karabakh 4. Kazakhstan 5. Belarus ... I repeat once again, everything happens according to the method you know who, surrounding the Russian Federation with hotbeds of instability and lost allies. It is time for Nazarbayev and Batka to decide with whom they are, in independence (with all due respect to the sovereignty of Kazakhstan and Belarus) it is time to end playing ... In the best case, there will be direct control of the "Overseas friend" in the worst "Somalization" of the countries

[Svyatoslavich]

Do not envy Old Man. And do not hesitate - he will cope.

[Karasik]

Quote: Now we are free

... with all due respect to sovereignty ...

I absolutely agree with you. There is one addition. What is sovereignty? This is the independence of the state, the ability to defend their interests in such a way that they do not care about outside opinion! Name at least one sovereign country on our planet. Well, just one that would simultaneously have: technology and scientific potential for their development; resources for the development of these technologies; closed cycle production. which ensures the introduction of new technologies; and an army that is really capable of protecting all this. Well, such a country. for which IMPORT is rather a favor for "foreign partners" than an urgent need. There are no such! All countries are dependent on each other to one degree or another!
Why am I ... Maybe we are really entering the era of "unification"? Maybe at this historical stage it is NECESSARY? Not for some individual countries. but for humanity as a whole! Remember what you dreamed about in the 60s (and they believed in it!) - space exploration. the discovery of new planets, worlds, the triumph of progress! So what? Are the achievements great?
Well, they learned to shoot each other well ...

[Aposlya]

Quote: Now we are free

I repeat once again, everything happens according to the methodology; you yourself know whom, surrounding the Russian Federation with centers of instability and lost allies. It’s time for Nazarbayev and Old Man to determine who they are, in independence (with all due respect to the sovereignty of Kazakhstan and Belarus), it’s time to finish playing ...

Those. go and surrender their states to Putin - like a hare of independence, do we want to arm Moscow? That way, with such wishes, people already have thoughts in the style of conspiracy theory - "Moscow's hand is not otherwise" ...

[Now we are free]

Quote: Aposlya

Those. go and surrender their states to Putin - like a hare of independence, do we want to arm Moscow? That way, with such wishes, people already have thoughts in the style of conspiracy theory - "Moscow's hand is not otherwise" ...

Nobody is pushing anyone under the "Hand of the Kremlin / Moscow". But under the wing of "Uncle Sam", Georgia, Ukraine and a number of other "fraternal republics" are a clear example for you. Now tell me, the United States does not rush into Russia with such "pissing rags" as Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Georgia? .. So I really don't want Kazakhstan to be made of a really BROTHERN country (see paragraph above) as well as from the beauty of Belarus and then threw our fraternal states at us. Alas, no one will give independence, especially the one who speaks about independence and brings everyone "Democracy" ... Kazakhstan and Belarus need to integrate with the Russian Federation as much as possible in all plans. You can see an alternative in the dried up and "Independent" Balts with their flowerbeds painted on by NATO soldiers, in the "Transcaucasian hegemon" of Georgia and the "Engine of Europe" Ukraine ...
I repeat, I wish all the best to Kazakhstan and Belarus, the question is that in the current world "Dvizukha" third countries are not envisaged and, alas, no one will give you to be "Switzerland" during the Second World War. The United States because it cannot refuse to use Kazakhstan and Belarus against the Russian Federation, the Russian Federation because it cannot afford to lose such brothers / allies, and even more so to allow them to be used against itself.
You have to choose and very soon Caraquez. This is not just my opinion, this is the next link in the causal relationship of the geopolitical world processes

[Aposlya]

Quote: Now we are free

Nobody is pushing anyone under the "Hand of the Kremlin / Moscow".

Well, judging by your previous post, this is what you are doing!
Or did you completely forget or did not know that with the unification of the countries of the former USSR into the Customs Union, and then the further integration, is this idea of ​​Nazarbayev?
So do not you speak for Kazakhstan - with whom he is, for whom, etc.

[Alex777]

Quote: Military Builder

So here we are **

Do not worry - everything will be fine.
If that - together we will fight back.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and some of the Kazakhs a couple of weeks ago proved to me that this is not possible

[Wiruz]

and some of the Kazakhs a couple of weeks ago proved to me that this is not possible

Feet in his mouth! Impossible, yeah. Until our cops (and cops are a polite form) will turn a blind eye to the frankly radical attitudes of some types of citizens, until the government prohibits the wearing of all kinds of niqabs and veils, until religious institutions are subjected to total checks, all this will be repeated unfortunately. Five years ago, when the conflict in the Middle East was just flaring up, an article appeared in a local newspaper, saying that the imam of a local mosque was recruiting minor parishioners to "call the correct Islam and marry a devout Muslim," and enviable suitors, according to In his opinion, they do not live in Kazakhstan, but in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, and a number of other countries. Somehow I don't remember that the investigation of this case led to anything.
So we have the North, most of the ethnic Kazakhs are "Russified". It's scary to imagine what's going on in the South.

[Temples]

Unless our cops (and cops are a polite form) will turn a blind eye to the frankly radical attitudes of certain types of citizens, until the government forbids the wearing of all kinds of nikabs and burqas, until religious institutions are subjected to total checks, all this will be repeated unfortunately

Until there is a real UNION with Russia (up to the creation of a single state), this will continue.
That's just a real association or joining the structure at this stage of life is sooooo complicated thing.

And believers with their foundations have nothing to do with it.
Only one of the instruments, as it does not sound blasphemous.

Or live in illusions. Maybe it’s easier in illusions.

[Zymran]

You have it all the time in Dagestan, as it were ...

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Zymran

You have it all the time in Dagestan, as it were ...

And nobody shouts - "Putin is being overthrown, chaos in Russia"

P.S. we have any attempted armed rebellion will be stopped in the bud, they are absolutely futile and doomed to failure

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Max_Bauder

And nobody shouts - "Putin is being overthrown, chaos in Russia"

comparisons to say the least are stupid
By the way, our baiga in the Caucasus really has nothing to do with the overthrow of GDP, and you just have to overthrow Nazik directly

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

By the way, our baiga in the Caucasus really has nothing to do with the overthrow of GDP, and you just have to overthrow Nazik directly

and nowhere, you only have Bolotnaya with Navalny related to GDP, the rest, such as the Caucasus Emirate, it’s like that - people came out to run through the forests ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

ipa Emirate Caucasus, it’s like that - people came out to run through the forests ...

it doesn’t have to run through the forests; you don’t have to juggle it; this tramp started long before the GDP

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

it doesn’t have to run through the forests; you don’t have to juggle it; this tramp started long before the GDP

Well, yes, you still say that these foresters GDP hosanna sing ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

enough nonsense to write, tired already, well understood what, but as always need to climb
there is something in the case write no fade

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

enough nonsense to write, tired already, well understood what, but as always need to climb
there is something in the case write no fade

Fade yourself, otherwise it’s already suss .. if everything around you ...

[asiat_61]

Maybe enough. Like in the bazaar: well, something like that, and yourself? Everything seems to be big already, but you think at the sandbox level.

[Қarabas]

Quote: Temples

Until there is a real UNION with Russia (up to the creation of a single state), this will continue.

Mdaa ... Of course, yes, after that, everything will stop, still

[miru mir]

Quote: Temples

And believers with their foundations have nothing to do with it.

Oh?

[Dulat]

Under the UNION in Semipalatinsk there were only 2 Kazakh schools, the rest were Russian. In these schools, everyone does not have enough places. Although the city was inhabited by many Kazakhs, and the city itself is not small. Here are the reasons for Russification. If back to the UNION, then all this will return. I do not want our language to fade away.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dulat

I do not want our language to fade away.

funny do not tell me why the Russian immigrants have not disappeared ?!
you don’t want it to disappear so don’t let, by the way, in the schools of the Kazakh SSR from the second grade the Kazakh language was compulsory

[Zymran]

Quote: Wiruz

So we have the North, most of the ethnic Kazakhs are "Russified". It's scary to imagine what's going on in the South.

In the south, everything is in order. Extremists are neophytes, and southerners have long practiced traditional Islam.

[co-creator]

Apparently Alma-Ata is not south already. What does obstinacy do with people is trouble. Are there many of you in Kazakhstan now? Critical mass as in Ukraine has not yet formed?

[Zymran]

Geographically, Almaty is the South-West. Mentally - a separate region.

Quotation: blooded man

Critical mass as in Ukraine has not yet formed?

Completely different things.

[Kasym]

Opiska, southeast. Edinokrovets, all film studios and many Leningraders were evacuated to Alma-Ata during the Second World War. Therefore, the Russians themselves say that Almaty residents have "correct, St. Petersburg Russian". Well, the Semirechye Cossacks.
Chimkent is most often called the south, sometimes Jambul and Kyzyl-Orda are ascribed there.
Zimran, this is an interesting question: why is it with us, and not in the more religious Uzbekistan and Tajikistan? It is clear, after all, that this is not our opposition, but the bearded men, who are led from outside. After all, there is Afghanistan nearby and support from there by arms and people - to bearded men it is more advantageous from a strategic point of view to neighboring Uzbeks and Tajiks ?! Here they will not see any support, they will kill them like suicide bombers; no hope of success in seizing power or supporting the population. Even if they achieve something, then the external environment will be hostile - neighbors, secular states, for which such an example is not needed for nothing (especially China and the Russian Federation). Therefore, in my opinion, since the Russian Federation failed to split from the inside, it was surrounded by unstable, poor countries (that is, the goal is Russia). If so, but the Baltic states, Moldova, Armenia-Azerbaijan, Ukraine and Georgia (the last two forced the Russian armed intervention - maybe here they want - more reasons to declare Moscow an outcast and an axis of evil) only confirm this. Then we remain with the Belarusians, but the Mongols and the Chinese grew. boundaries.
I also do not believe in the actions of NGOs in the Republic of Kazakhstan - they will simply be erased into powder by the NAS, they are not suicides. Everything goes through B / W BV, Turkey and the Caucasus. But do they have patron customers or is it their initiative - but judging by the above, is there a furry paw ?! It is good that at least someone was taken alive - there will be food for thought in the organs, and not illusions.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Kasym

question: why do we have

yes the answer is on the surface, Russia needs to be squeezed out and the Republic of Kazakhstan and even better to quarrel, and the easiest way to do this is to bring the Islamists to power

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

yes the answer is on the surface, Russia needs to be squeezed out and the Republic of Kazakhstan and even better to quarrel, and the easiest way to do this is to bring the Islamists to power

Like running with a gun, can someone lead to power there?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

Type running with a gun

Well, if for the sake of one person running with a gun, they urgently collect a security council, enter a red threat level, then ...

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, if for the sake of one person running with a gun, they urgently collect a security council, enter a red threat level, then ...

But what is the Security Council meeting and anti-terrorist combinations of this type only in the KZ, and in the Russian Federation it happens in a completely different way when they start firing in Dagestan?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

excuse me, you are frankly fooling around, you already decide on a psycho (s) you have run through (Alma-Ata) or a terrorist (s)
if the first then what had the Security Council had to do with the chief doctor from Kablukova, if all the same the second then the Security Council, but then you do not need to tell tales that supposedly there are pshi everywhere

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

excuse me, you are frankly fooling around, you already decide on a psycho (s) you have run through (Alma-Ata) or a terrorist (s)
if the first then what had the Security Council had to do with the chief doctor from Kablukova, if all the same the second then the Security Council, but then you do not need to tell tales that supposedly there are pshi everywhere

Yes, this campaign is not all right with your head ... In your opinion, crazy can not be a terrorist? And in my opinion it is the terrorists who are crazy!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

And in my opinion it is the terrorists who are crazy!

exactly .... you name ideological terrorists, quite adequate and with a stable psyche ?!

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

exactly .... you name ideological terrorists, quite adequate and with a stable psyche ?!

Yes, you go to the forest!
If for you a person who kills other people is normal mentally, then what can I get from you other than analyzes? !!!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

Yes you go forest

killer argument, in WADA a lawyer does not work

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

killer argument, in WADA a lawyer does not work

you were mistaken, I do not work in your office ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

but you are still stupid and don’t even know basic things, which, however, proves once again your inability to perceive and analyze the information received

[Aposlya]

Who would talk about adequacy, but certainly not you - the eternally "offended Jew"!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

resentful Jew

Well, now he has become a Jew, by the way why offended, for whom, for what ?!

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, now he has become a Jew, by the way why offended, for whom, for what ?!

"Eternal zhd" remember such a character? So you are the same - always offended by the Kazakhs, judging by your posts on the forum ... Forgive my tactlessness, but everyone has long noticed that behind your posts nothing but attacks on Kazakhs and Kazakhstan is worth nothing more. You are a kind of small troll, but at the same time creating a picture from "Russian brother" to "Russian spiteful critic, enemy of all Kazakhs." It is because of people like you that other peoples begin to perceive Russians not as brothers in the former USSR, but as an imperial chauvinist ...

[co-creator]

When was the Security Council collected because of Dagestan? Here recently in the cemetery there was a massacre and could really get to ethnic clashes and there was no Security Council.

[Aposlya]

Quotation: blooded man

Here recently in the cemetery there was a massacre and could really get to ethnic clashes and there was no Security Council.

And you do not confuse terrorism with criminal showdowns.

[co-creator]

Type in Ukraine, too, at first units with the Bandera party portraits went.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Kasym

Zimran, this is an interesting question: why is it with us, and not in the more religious Uzbekistan and Tajikistan?

Let me express my little thought. The purpose of modern terrorism is not the same as it was a hundred years ago, to destroy a specific person - be it a king, governor, police chief or someone else, the goal is to create an atmosphere of fear, insecurity. Moreover, in a state whose head is constantly speaks of a strategic alliance with our country, a state in which there are almost as many nationalities as in Russia. Therefore, in all the recent attacks, even in Kazakhstan, even in Russia, no one takes responsibility for him. Captured a scoundrel, there is a thread. I hope they will untwist, but they are unlikely to tell us.

[Қarabas]

Quote: There was a mammoth

the goal is to create an atmosphere of fear, uncertainty

Instability will be more accurate

[Zymran]

I think for TGO, in order to bring fear and insecurity to people, it is more reasonable to attack against civilians. Here we see that all the attacks of terrorists are directed against law enforcement agencies. Civilians suffer, but only as a secondary goal.

Quote: Kasym

Zimran, this is an interesting question: why is it with us, and not in the more religious Uzbekistan and Tajikistan? It is clear, after all, that this is not our opposition, but the bearded men, who are led from outside.

Perhaps because in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan the nuts are tightened very tight, our regime is more democratic.

And there is such a version

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[Was mammoth]

Quote: karabas

Instability will be more accurate

Maybe it's better to say that.

Quote: Zymran

I think for TGO, in order to bring fear and insecurity to people, it is more reasonable to attack against civilians. Here we see that all the attacks of terrorists are directed against law enforcement agencies.

I can only guess. That you are all relatives up to the seventh generation. And you will have to answer according to a relative. And the power structure is still blurred in this respect. Yes, and for the "cops" each has a "good" word.

Quote: Zymran

And there is such a version

There was such a little thought. Too "stupid" terrorist attack. But, so far we are only using rumors. But, after all, each option has a basis, doesn't it?

[Zymran]

Quote: There was a mammoth

I can only guess. That you are all relatives up to the seventh generation. And you will have to answer according to a relative. And the power structure is still blurred in this respect. Yes, and for the "cops" each has a "good" word.

Well, the cops are also someone's relatives. And considering how many cops we have, then almost anyone has them among relatives. And you are exaggerating the importance of kinship.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Zymran

And you are exaggerating the importance of kinship.

I honestly envy the good.
But, you see, just like that, even a maniac does not kill.

[Zymran]

Quote: There was a mammoth

But, you see, just like that, even a maniac does not kill.

I kind of wrote about the reason - revenge on the cops in the first place.

[Kasym]

The authorities can tell us that a couple of bandits came to settle scores with the police.
Zymran, i.e. Do you also think that someone is in charge of this from abroad? As for the nuts, remember the IMU - i.e. there and in neighboring Afghanistan there are much more potential recruits who are easier to "activate". The Tajiks also. But here they have become more active. Therefore, I think that the global goal is rather the Russian Federation than we are. They need a belt of instability - trade with the Western republics is dwindling, immigrants, squabbles and all that bad. The transit also suffers. Given this challenge, Kazakhstan is a good candidate to continue achieving this goal. The entire Central Asian region is cut off for the Russian Federation in economic terms. Trade wars, as you can see, do not fade for a second. And having undermined our neighbors in Central Asia, the goal will not be achieved - we remain a buffer for the Russian Federation and will not particularly affect it. But the Republic of Kazakhstan - here and the troops of the Russian Federation can be forced to enter and begin to inflame the ethnic groups. discord; which will lead to a breakdown in relations and the collapse of the EAEU. A whole conspiracy theory turns out.

[Zymran]

I am not a fan of conspiracy theories, but arguing about who benefits, you can find a lot of arguments in favor of benefits in these events for the United States and for Russia and China. And then find even more arguments against.

The main thing is one. Do you really believe that the United States and the State Department are so easy to carry out terrorist attacks anywhere in the world? Instead of achieving your goals politically or economically. Or at least not to close Kazakhgate. Or stupidly accept in the WTO, before joining the Taiga Union. And the authorities of those countries simply wipe away, not even trying to hand a note of protest.

[Kasym]

I believe that that president and the State Department are "moved" by other puppeteers. There are those who rule the CIA without them and others who can do it - neither the President nor the State Department even knows. It's like a corporation with a bunch of shareholders (owners) - important and not so important. And the president with the State Department is like a governing apparatus (to whom the strategy is released). No more.
If you do not know, we have been under "sanctions" for a long time. Including political ones. No loans, no high-level meetings, no large industrial, economic projects (without energy). They show little interest in the Silk Road - and this is in their economic interests. At least just make a loan.
But you must admit that NAS cannot be called a "Western puppet", otherwise the policy (external and internal) would be different and would go up to their neck in debt - they know how and would take care of it.
And not necessarily the customer in the West, there are other "well-wishers". But the general strategy is clear - someone really wants to see the Republic of Kazakhstan "on fire" with all that it implies.

[kashtak]

Quote: Kasym

They need a belt of instability - trade with the western republics is waning, immigrants, squabbles, and all that bad stuff. Transit also suffers. With such a task, Kazakhstan is a good candidate.

the scenario you described is quite logical and theoretically destabilizes the situation in both the Russian Federation and Central Asia. in one stroke. I am still very concerned about one question. what do you think, how will your other neighbor China react in this case?

[Talgat]

Quote: Kasym

Therefore, I think that the global goal is more of the Russian Federation than we are

Yes, 100% Kasym, absolutely right !. Kazakhstan itself is not a threat to them. And as a neighbor of the Russian Federation and as an integral part of the Eurasian Union, of course, a "splinter" Will hit us. to strike at Russia - or rather the future EAC

[Kasym]

Sergei, China is definitely not needed, because Uighurs live on our border, and there are enough radicals with separatists there. But at the same time, they won’t climb with weapons - this is the CSTO influence zone, and they need it in the allies. Therefore, there will be verbal support and stuff like that. But not more.
You can even suspect Qatar of puppeteers, as This transit of Central Asian gas to China deprives them of an important market (up to a third of all China's exported gas goes through Kazakhstan). Here we can build a number of suspects, but we are unlikely to find out the truth. Since puppeteers should not chop off a chain of intermediaries.

[Aposlya]

Quote: There was a mammoth

There was such a little thought. Too "stupid" terrorist attack. But, so far we are only using rumors. But, after all, each option has a basis, doesn't it?

What makes this case related to a schucher in Aktobe ... there, too, was far from logic ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Aposlya

What makes this case related to a schucher in Aktobe ... there, too, was far from logic ...

I hope that Zymran is right:

Quote: Zymran

Tip: Get less involved in conspiracy theories.

[kashtak]

Quote: Kasym

why with us, and not in the more religious Uzbekistan and Tajikistan?

Dear Kasym, you may be interested in this if you have not seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SkuV89Pys4&spfreload=10 like there is information in the topic.

[co-creator]

Southeast, that is, refer to the south. A person also does not live in the north if that.

Quote: Zymran

Completely different things

No, the exact same ones.

[bugaev2005]

Shimkent is considered to be our south! This is for too smart explain ...

[co-creator]

For too smart. Man wrote the north of the "Russified" and "south" Kazakhs. Geographic separation in Kazakh, nothing to do with.

[Roman 11]

Quotation: blooded man

Critical mass as in Ukraine has not yet formed?

I doubt that the Kazakhs raised banners with fascist symbols, the descendants of Abai are much wiser than the descendants of Bandera. He himself was born in Almaty, and I can’t stand Western philosophy very much, and as an example of politicians, besides ours, the eastern leaders — Deng Xiaoping, the current head of the PRC and others — are of interest.

[bugaev2005]

Yes, everything is fine with us, the overwhelming majority of the population, multinational and very tolerant, all like Komsomol members of the 70s in terms of x ... y!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Wiruz

As long as our cops (and cops are a polite form) turn a blind eye to the frankly radical attitudes of certain types of citizens, until the government prohibits the wearing of all kinds of niqabs and burqas, until religious institutions are subjected to total checks, all this will be repeated unfortunately.

Condolences to the families of the dead and injured.
As far as I know, Kazakhs have never been religious radicals. Probably, this is almost the only people in the East, whose women did not wear a veil like hers. Nationalism, yes, its representatives have, and even then not all of them. But, religious fanaticism. This is clearly brought in over the past decades. Here, the Kazakhs themselves need to deal with their "tribesmen", even without the authorities. However, they are sensitive to family relations.

Quote: Chariton

Well, the brothers are Kazakhs and your turn has come ...

Quote: Chariton

Two devils put the whole of Kazakhstan on their ears ... But they never caught one! Well, you give a damn, I'm in shock ..

I do not understand your gloating, almost joy in the comments about the disaster.

[Mowgli]

and some of the Kazakhs a couple of weeks ago proved to me that this is not possible

Oh soothsayer!
Oh new Wang!

[Қarabas]

He can only prophesy bad, such is man

[kashtak]

Quote: karabas

He can only prophesy bad, such is man

unfortunately, you don’t have to be either a soothsayer or a clicker. there is a likelihood of events deafeningly denying that I am so naive. so far there has been a minor skirmish. we already had such ones. it happens that the enemy is not the one who warns of possible problems, but the one who is silent about them. agree there have already been more serious cases. you yourself Barabas understand that Kazakhstan is at the junction of China, Russia and Central Asia. you think nothing can happen to you? if it does not, then I will be the first to rejoice. we don’t need problems with our neighbors. its enough.

[kashtak]

Quote: Mowgli

Oh soothsayer!
Oh new Wang!

Do you have an emoticon with an ostrich with a head in the sand?

[Mowgli]

Do you have an emoticon with an ostrich with a head in the sand?

This one?

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and some of the Kazakhs a couple of weeks ago proved to me that this is not possible

Rave! Nobody in their right mind will exclude a crazy man with a weapon ...

[Bulrumeb]

no offense, but it began a long time ago. In 99, he participated in the capture of the training camp for the bearded in the Zhambyl region.

[Walking]

KNB spetsnaz in full gear lit up on the Almaty Arbat, policemen patrol in helmets and body armor. Many organizations dismissed workers at home, kindergartens are closed, parents pick up children, and the streets in the center are empty. Social networks are full of rumors, most of which are not confirmed. In general, the situation is quite calm.

[Alekseev]

Quote: War Builder

and we ** f

Narzabaev and the company, the so-called elite, should not repeat the mistakes of Yanukovych, i.e. attempts to sit "multi-vector" on two or more chairs with one booty.
Like examples of darkness, but still, many will not depart from tolerance for Islamic radicals and cordial love for Western and other moneybags.
They think that it will turn out harmless to their own health for a long time "to be nice to both!" and to awaken "good feelings" in many.

[Dulat]

I think Nazarbayev needs not only to deal with politics, if he is so smart and wise he creates jobs with normal earnings. If a man works, then he does not give a shit about politics, jihad, the overthrow of power, the opposition, etc. If a man works then fishing can be done, on a hunt, with children somewhere in the countryside well, in general, there will be something to do.
Many young people go without normal work (a job that can be enough only for food, I think - slavery). It's not like buying a house, not even enough for a wedding.
There will be work, education and enlightenment - there will be a strong decrease in this kind of event.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dulat

There will be work, education and enlightenment - there will be a strong decrease in this kind of event.

difficult question
in Libya and lived like ka is not bad and paid well, etc., etc.

[bugaev2005]

Do not write nonsense, do not sow panic! One mentally unbalanced man with a makeshift gun killed a policeman, grabbed his machine gun and went to shoot left and right ... Just a mess in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they don’t take normal people to work, only relatives and doom, because salaries in the police by the standards of Kazakhstan are very nothing, that’s why the uninhabited wolves work in it - policemen, but earthenware and relatives who protect prostitutes, drug traffickers and Uzbek illegal immigrants! For the first time faced inadequate and paralyzed the life of the whole metropolis!

[marshes]

Quote: bugaev2005

For the first time faced inadequate and paralyzed the work of the whole metropolis!

This is not the first time, in Almaty, the shooting of the Buran’s crew, there was a second case, Taraz, but there are a lot of questions about Aktobe.
Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[bugaev2005]

Buran when shot? A few years ago, by the way, a friend of my relative died there, an ordinary traffic cop ... But there were always such cases even in the USSR, just then such events were secret, and now the Internet does not make it possible to hide events! I authoritatively affirm that there is no mass base for radicals in the Almaty region!

[marshes]

Quote: bugaev2005

Buran when shot? A few years ago, by the way, a friend of my relative died there, an ordinary traffic cop ...

When they decided to check the car leaving Altyn-Orda https://tengrinews.kz/crime/v-almatyi-rasstrelyali-dvuh-politseyskih-201095/.
Then.https: //tengrinews.kz/crime/politsiya-soobschila-podrobnosti-spetsoperatsi
iv-almatyi-218097 /

Quote: bugaev2005

I authoritatively affirm that there is no mass base for radicals in the Almaty region!

What do you mean by a base, flea markets, "rubber" apartments and houses? There are no obvious radicals, so they are in the habit.
It is necessary to switch to the passport regime when the terrorist threat is yellow (Orange), hometowns from other cities, or let relatives stay at the workplace if their time outside their hometown exceeds ten calendar days.

[bugaev2005]

Everything is written incorrectly, the journalists misinterpreted, everything was wrong, I know this from the participants in the events, but now the conversation is not about that, the base meant the mood of the common people, well, in FIG nobody needs a revolution, everyone thinks only about what survive in these difficult conditions!

[marshes]

Quote: bugaev2005

Well, in FIG nobody needs a revolution, everyone thinks only about what would survive in these difficult conditions!

And who needs it?
But something scumbag divorced sympathizing Arabs themselves do not live and do not give others.

Quote: bugaev2005

Wrong everything is written there, the journalists were distorted, everything was wrong, I know this from the participants in the events,

Can share? How was it?

[bugaev2005]

Do not tell me ..))) Introduction of the passport regime in the vicinity of Almaty! How do you imagine this when everyone knows each other, all relatives, and even I can solve any Russian problem with any representative of any branch of government! ))) Since even among the clan Shaprashta there are relatives))))

[marshes]

Quote: bugaev2005

Introducing the passport regime in the vicinity of Almaty!

Yes, throughout Kazakhstan, the timing of the introduction always exceeds ten days.

Quote: bugaev2005

How do you imagine this when everyone knows each other, all relatives, and even I can solve any Russian problem with any representative of any branch of government! ))) Since even among the clan Shaprashta there are relatives))))

Legislatively, through parliament - an anti-terrorist act, in the same place it is possible to include the responsibility of civil servants who do not perform these duties in the flesh before criminal prosecution.

[bugaev2005]

The law can be adopted, but with our mentality it will be like traffic rules ... How to ensure compliance? It’s like the decree of the king — I order everyone to be happy! Here I’m talking about something, not about the law, but about the mechanism for its implementation!

[marshes]

Quote: bugaev2005

.How will ensure the implementation?

Those who are not zealous, instead of retirement pensions they will be sent for non-compliance with these laws, and if during subsequent proceedings ruined human lives turn out to be, they will not get off conditional.
The execution should be entrusted to the anti-terrorist committee, which must be created, instead of the center from the KNB. It should also have other units.

[Dulat]

All sorts of laws can be prescribed. But EXECUTE ...

[bugaev2005]

Bolat, with all due respect to you! I have been reading your comments for a long time, often write very accurately! I never minus .. this is so a distraction from the discussion ...)))

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: bugaev2005

One mentally unbalanced man with a makeshift gun killed a guard, seized his machine gun and went to shoot left and right ..

[Gradus HuK]

It’s time to unite! To beat on the wort on all fronts!

[Kasym]

Bugaev 2005. It’s not so simple. One was sitting, the other was a Salafi (or maybe the same face). But the question arises: where did he get this Salafism, is it not in the zone? Tomorrow, doesn’t it turn out that instead of crime we will see an army in black robes? Do you know what's going on in the zones?
The bandits would rather deal with a judge, operas or lawyers if they were severely treated, but would not go on a suicidal rally against law enforcement agencies. This is a challenge to the authorities and a demonstration action that we are not afraid of anything and we have a bunch of such suicide bombers that we can scatter our people like that. 2-3 inexperienced people have nothing to catch against a dozen armed people, operas, escorts, etc. - This is an indicative suicide, as a challenge to the authorities.

[Aposlya]

Quote: Kasym

Ugayev 2005. It’s not so simple. One was sitting, the other was a Salafi (or maybe the same face). But the question arises: where did he get this Salafism, is it not in the zone? Tomorrow, doesn’t it turn out that instead of crime we will see an army in black robes? Do you know what's going on in the zones?

It was in the zone and joined ... at least as stated in the report from the KNB:
https://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/glava-knb-rasskazal-lichnosti-napadavshego
-ruvd-dknb-almatyi-298897 /

[Kasym]

Well ... Although everything was obvious. There they can take root, which does not seem enough. I have already written about ITK more than once - I know from different angles, so the problem is overripe for the authorities, and in Aktobe the situation is also the same for sure, because there were also convicts.
Special zones are needed for them and for secular imams to work with brainwashed young people - the level of education is very low and work on this too. And the rats themselves will bite themselves - they are generally far away from the hiding place, but for those who are engaged in campaigning for life.

[starogil]

The car of the Turkish bloody show - shock, or infection?

[Kasym]

We have traced certain patterns, we can say features.
1. Beards beat the police. Since the first events in 2011 (if I am not mistaken) it is people in uniform who suffer. So today it began with the Almaly district police department of the city.
2. This is the fourth manifestation since May 21, and the third with the use of violence. I put forward the assumption that the bearded, who gathered at the BV, were given the command to check in at home. Or to immediately get your hands covered in blood, or to check loyalty. Or maybe our bearded men are not honored there, and they need to be checked? But it is clear that Kazakhstan has become a target. But who orders? I don’t believe that this is some kind of internal opposition; rather from abroad. On May 21, they did not succeed "peacefully" - it is clear to anyone in the Republic of Kazakhstan that it will not work to change the government in this way, any sit-ins or force people to come to the central squares will not come. And it is impossible to "blow up" society - they will not support it. There are such terrorist attacks - it's good that at least the losses among civilians are minimal.
3. Youth. Everywhere young people, in all cases brainwashed young.
My condolences to the families of the victims. I don’t understand why the police are to intimidate? But it’s stupid, they’ll put everyone then, they will work out in a hard way and will not spare. A weapon? Maybe, but what can units that break against the whole police department !? Revenge? Since they have been practicing for the bearded for a long time, sometimes it is unlawful with exceeding official powers - but this is everywhere they are. Some questions.
At night, from Sunday to Monday, right from the wedding they called for a meeting on security in the regional center of Alma-Ata region. (Taldy-Kurgan) one acquaintance - apparently expecting something.

[Zymran]

Quote: Kasym

I don’t understand why the police are to intimidate? But it’s stupid, they’ll put everyone later, they will work out in a hard way and will not spare. A weapon? Maybe, but what can units that break against the whole police department !? Revenge? Since they have been practicing for the bearded for a long time, sometimes it is unlawful with exceeding official powers - but this is everywhere they are. Some questions.

The principle of Occam’s razor has not yet been canceled, dear Kasym. Why the police? Because it is they who press in prisons of other Wahhabis.
By the way, it’s good that civilians are not intentionally touched.

[Kasym]

Hello! So it is necessary to "dubakov" and other ITC service personnel "press", not these. To storm the zones, there are weapons and bros sitting - I would understand that. Investigators, interrogators, prosecutors would also be understandable (their names "bearded inmates" are well known). And so, some kind of suicide turns out.

[Zymran]

Well, the zone is storming to fig business. And so technically that those others are cops. Here they are beaten.

Although there are oddities. Take, for example, the fact that no one has ever claimed responsibility and made any statements about their goals. Stupidly shot, killed and washed off.

[Kasym]

Zymran, agree that it is easier to take any administrative building than the ROVD. The same akimat (mayor's office), high-ranking officials are taken hostage, barricaded themselves and demand, for example, the release of comrades-in-arms, weapons, etc. - much more resonance. And here everything is so stupid and stupid, I do not see a clear plan of action for a single terrorist attack. No logic whatsoever. In Aktobe, there is a circus tent - no planning, no training, no weapons, stupidly flooded like sheep. Here, too, which of the policemen are hostages - the authorities will let them flow (no matter how cynical it may sound). Another thing is a high-ranking bureaucrat or children. You write correctly: they stupidly shot, killed and got out - no logic, no demands, what they want. After all, they only push people away from religion and faith - which parent will look indifferently if his child begins to study and become interested in religion, regardless of what happens - "out of harm's way", "this is when you yourself become a mom-dad."
Weapons, Zymran, that’s what they want in my opinion (before this case it was exactly like that - arms stores, etc.). But you can do it much smarter. Although maybe someone very valuable to them was in the police department and wanted to release or take (kill) him.

[Zymran]

Kasym, they’re not going to take anyone hostage. In my opinion, the main goal is to take revenge on the cops. Actually that's all. At least for those who carry out these attacks. It is clear that they cannot lead people behind them. The people are simply afraid of them.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Zymran

By the way, it’s good that civilians are not intentionally touched

just other goals and objectives

[marshes]

Quote: Kasym

We have traced certain patterns, we can say features.

Welcome.
Strange features however.

In order to prevent extremism and terrorism, Aktobe theologians and akimat officials help families convicted of extremism and terrorism.

https://www.nur.kz/1190066-v-aktobe-vzyali-pod-opeku-semi-terrori.html
So then, then, whole lines will be lined up so that your relatives can be hung around the neck of taxpayers.
Yes, and our courts are the most humane, having received an article for terrorism, even if they didn’t take a significant part, they will receive 6 years, they can go out for exemplary behavior earlier and Udo. Some are acquitted. Yes, they are tried in civil courts. Military courts must be tried. In terms of life, these ... in a couple of years, they get used to the regime, even if they don’t have sanatorium conditions. You need to go up and not be shot, hang up so they die from strangulation and not from vertebral fractures. Stitch from execution from 3 to 10 years, while legal subtleties will not settle.
So it is necessary to pull out deputies from vacations, let them decide how to tighten legislation on terrorism.
Yes, and today, there were miscalculations ... But at least the yellow level was extended before that.
I wonder who will retire.

[Kasym]

Hi Swamps. One sat twice and worked in a store selling honeycombs. phones, another Salafi, as I understand it. And where did the sidekick of this Salafism get in touch, did this probably unite them? In fact, I already wrote about the zone, it worries that they are being held together with crime. Imagine that these are being converted.
Those on which human blood is all ... finished, beasts. Not a judge, but all these radicals must be kept separately - this is at least.

[marshes]

Quote: Kasym

Not a judge, but all these radicals must be kept separately - this is at least.

Yes, for a long time you need to make a special cover.
not long ago heard in Uralsk create a special zone.
I do not believe that they will be re-educated in the zone, maybe only when they are sick and old they will go out, but it’s better to do it ...

[Kasym]

According to statistics, who spent less than a year (did not have time to get used to) do not rush back. But more ... there was a large percentage. True, it was a long time ago.
There is another side to the coin - we have such a police that in order to distinguish ourselves ... they will start digging the earth with their nose - everyone cannot be rowed. And ours, for reporting, will find so many Salafists and Wahhabis that so many believers cannot be found in all of Kazakhstan. And there will be a struggle against the struggle.
Eh ... All this is from the decline in the level of education, its mass character and quality. If in physics lessons, etc. the kid wasn’t really explained where these lightnings, earthquakes, etc. came from, then he will definitely know that the Almighty punishes all this. I exaggerate of course, but nonetheless.

[Alekst]

Yeah, they shoot, well, there are plenty of rumors

[Arkan]

When Americans allocate money for the "development of democracy," it develops, "democracy", just like that and not otherwise.

[Scandinavian]

Rushed as they say. For 25 years we have grown fat, we thought that we will continue to live happily ever after. But no, the bearded men do not sleep, and the power has not justified itself.

[Wiruz]

Remember how we, also five years ago, somewhere in one of the western regions, also had a terrorist attack when the building of the KNB (local FSB) was fired from an RPG. Do you think the security forces have since learned something?

[Wiruz]

By the way, you can still remember about our Rambo - Chelakh, just everyone forgot about him. The authorities also hushed up everything.

[Scandinavian]

I'm sorry for the guy. Kazakhstani "Rambo" filled up the entire platoon of border guards and the commander. Ashamed gentlemen bureaucrats and corrupt officials. At that time it came out to hush up, this time this number will not work. They threw a black mark to the authorities of the Republic of Kazakhstan from behind a hillock, or take a fight or pack your bags.

[Zymran]

Chelah - 15 killed indoors barracks.
Hassan Malik Nidal - 13 killed 33 wounded right on the parade ground of a military base.

So, nothing is impossible in the Arkankergen massacre.

[Scandinavian]

Cimran, it is your right to believe in such a variant of noodles. I am a more adequate and sane person. I am able to distinguish grain from the chaff.

[Zymran]

Quote: Scandinavian

Cimran, it is your right to believe in such a variant of noodles. I am a more adequate and sane person. I am able to distinguish grain from the chaff.

An adequate and sane adherent of conspiracy theory is something new.

[Scandinavian]

Adherents are your brothers who wear a beard and short pants and those who do not want to be and live in a secular society.

[Zymran]

Quote: Scandinavian

Adherents are your brothers who wear a beard and short pants and those who do not want to be and live in a secular society.

There are none among my brothers. =)

[Scandinavian]

I do not care, you understand me.

[Zymran]

Yes, I'm used to inadequacies.

[Scandinavian]

And you do not have to be ill, "accustomed"

[Kasym]

I am sure that if this story is sewn with white thread, it will come up again.
And so, I know a case when one guy was so "got" that he then put all his moppers against the wall. After this story, weapons were seized at all "points" of the district, leaving only bayonet-knives.

[Zymran]

With the scoop, this was not uncommon, it simply never received wide publicity. From there comes the myth of the notorious stability, the good uncles of the police, the order in the army, etc.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Zymran

With a scoop, this was not uncommon

can you cite the facts?

[Zymran]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

can you cite the facts?

http://www.istpravda.ru/digest/3120/

Only for 1971 year

14 690 people condemned in the USSR military tribunals in the 1971 year. 291 of them are for the killings. But only 19 killers were convicted of aggravated crime and sentenced to death.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Zymran

Only for 1971 year

Navskid. One kill on 830-840 thousand people (250 million, if you know). Compare only with the Kazakhstan data on the killings. (I don’t know which ones)

[Zymran]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Navskid. One kill on 830-840 thousand people (250 million, if you know). Compare only with the Kazakhstan data on the killings. (I don’t know which ones)

Read carefully. We say, and the article deals with crimes and more specifically about killings among military personnel.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Zymran

Read carefully.

To blame. At 16000.
I remember that for the first time on guard duty in the 74th, we fired the entire cartridge (SKS-10 rounds) with fear in the fog on a battery running on a morning charge. Thank God I didn’t get it. And if you hit? Also in the tribunal would give an answer. Huh? They didn’t send them further to the kitchen.
By the way, why did you take the 71st year?

[Zymran]

What Google issued, then took it. In general, it was said that the killings of colleagues in the Soviet army were and were not an exceptional rarity. And maybe not less than now in Russia.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Zymran

And maybe not less than now in Russia.

Speculation.
And what happened today is not an idle interest for me; my relatives live in Kazakhstan.

[Zymran]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Speculation.

You can’t find information in open sources, but even 1971 data show that crimes were not uncommon.

Quote: There was a mammoth

And what happened today is not an idle interest for me; my relatives live in Kazakhstan.

Tip: be less involved in conspiracy theories and remember that if they do not serve in the police, then they are unlikely to become victims of terrorist attacks.

[Scandinavian]

Beautiful statistics from the fence! And the author and source, as always, do not have to write. And also the most important thing I forgot. What articles were convicted? Terrorism, extremism?

[Zymran]

Can you read?

[Aposlya]

Quote: Scandinavian

Cimran, it is your right to believe in such a variant of noodles. I am a more adequate and sane person. I am able to distinguish grain from the chaff.

Well, killing drunken colleagues sleeping in beds is not such an impossible event. Why drunk? Yes, because he killed them on May 29, and on May 28 was just the Day of the Border Guard. Or do you think the border guards could not mark him and were all sober living not at an outpost at the border, but at an outpost in a conservation area?
What happened to him? Hazing? But he was this grandfather himself - a demobilization ... Then why? Unclear...
Conspiracy theory? But then why was he caught in civilian life? Where did he get the things of his colleagues and the expensive equipment of the huntsman? And the video that he shot there in the mountains on which the surroundings were shot and he? Well, a video shot by a hidden camera, where Chelakh himself tells his cellmates how he soaked his friends in a house with a sort of relishing process ?!
You can believe, you can not believe in the fault of Chelakh. Here are just a light bulb to your beliefs ...

[YGV-97219]

not how not to calm down!

[YGV-97219]

Why did they remove the literary word !?

[CONTROL]

Quote: yugv-xnumx

Why did they remove the literary word !?

... because - they are unfamiliar to them! They don’t read literature! ...

[Navy7981]

What a nonsense is happening! An operetta mutiny in Turkey, in Armenia, in Kazakhstan! All operate with the included toggle switch "D". If you can do something wrong, then that's exactly what they do. If at the same time people did not die, then one could laugh.

[armata37]

In the first video, a police officer is lying on the asphalt. Was kind of like the question: "Breathes, right?" Answer: "Breathes"

I don’t understand why they’re not trying to help right away, but just walking around? Only then someone comes to the end of the video.

[Razvedka_Boem]

To help, you need to be able to provide first aid. Alas, 99,9% cannot do this. But out of ignorance, aggravating the position of the victim is easy. In the video, you can hear how they say they hit your neck .. this is usually without options.

[VSZMK]

What a lot of things are happening in recent days ...........

[My doctor]

Well, summer. Major riots mainly occur in the summer.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the main "show" will begin either immediately after the start of the Olympiad or on the eve

[Million]

America stirs everything up; only they benefit from destabilization around the world

[Turkir]

Turkey, Armenia, now Kazakhstan.
Nulands "work".

[serzhserzh86]

That camry dude is one of the attackers. He shot from a car.

[temirtau72]

First, Aktyubinsk, and now it has reached Alma-Ata. The following cities on A: either Atyrau, or Aktau, or, what the hell is not joking, and the capital itself is Astana ....

[Kibl]

The south of Kazakhstan has always lived its own special life, the clans, nepotism, the Kazakhstani front went from there. The south is south.

[sergey2017]

Kazakhstan, according to experts, is now stable only due to the authority of Nursultan Nazarbayev. But in the political elite of Kazakhstan there are figures who would like and are potentially ready to seize power. As examples, experts highlight the groups of Mukhtar Ablyazov and Rakhat Aliyev, who did not disdain even frankly criminal methods in the struggle for power.

[Aposlya]

Quote: sergey2017

As examples, experts highlight the groups of Mukhtar Ablyazov and Rakhat Aliyev, who did not disdain even frankly criminal methods in the struggle for power.

Rakhat Aliyev hanged himself in an Austrian prison for a long time ... Ablyazov seems to be under investigation in France, no?

[bugaev2005]

It seems that all the main specialists in Kazakhstan in Russia live and know better than us about our life! It is a complete feeling that those who write on this site about events in Kazakhstan from outside are the very radicals who would benefit from blazing! Do not find Aposlya, what is it? Vasilenko seems to be one of those!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: bugaev2005

Vasilenko seems to be one of those!

Lord, have you got it already, can you refute even my statement with numbers? !!!

Quote: bugaev2005

To Kazakhstan from outside there are those very radicals who would benefit from blazing!

nothing is my gain, well, what would blaze? !!!
just for god sake with examples and quotes
and then it’s funny for you from the beginning you say one thing after when you see that you screwed up something else, and Russia is to blame as always

[Aposlya]

Quote: bugaev2005

Do not find Aposlya, what is it? Vasilenko seems to be one of those!

And Vasilenko always hangs in all articles about Kazakhstan. This is such a local Troll. He once left KZ for Russia, now he’s freaking out here ... Xs of course, what did the Kazakhs annoy him with, but the man really moved on this ground ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

And Vasilenko always hangs in all articles about Kazakhstan.

Apparently you hang out, especially if you take into account the time spent in nete, and I discuss those articles that are interesting to me and this is not only the Republic of Kazakhstan

Quote: Aposlya

Xs, of course, than the Kazakhs annoyed him, but the man really moved on this basis ..

Once again, you can refute me with figures and facts, and not by the la-la-la principle. I am sure of this

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

with numbers tight, only that we know how to be rude to insult and make oneself out

[avg-mgn]

I don’t want to believe in the sequel, but it looks like it will be. The lessons of the countries of neighbors in the former USSR do not teach anyone. They took sovereignty as much as they wanted, but they carry only as much as they can and then groaning. I would not want to get involved, but it seems necessary.

[ZKVR]

Hello.
It is evident that this is a trend, however. Everyone wants to shoot. Overpopulation, a quiet, quiet life is already tired of many. And the peasants want to fight for a warm-up. Let off steam so to speak.
Therefore, men get quiet and wait.

[Military Builder]

overcrowding

I was surprised that overpopulation of Kazakhstan as well as Russia did not shine for another 300 years, the population density is only lower in Mongolia and Greenland.

[kashtak]

in Russia and Canada, the light does not end. but you’re right. We should rather talk about the redistribution of social structure. power finally goes to the corporation. and there, it seems, some began to forget the lessons of history.

[family tree]

Duc, warning to defeat, all hunting will be lost immediately
Once a quiet life is tired

[Svoy_tovarish]

There is Russia and its experience in combating similar manifestations of terrorist activity. Kazakhstan needs to establish contacts in this area, seriously and for a long time to engage in strengthening domestic security, apparently it will not work to stay aside.

[Makarov]

video of the detention of one of the attackers

[Makarov]

video of the detention of one of the attackers

[berezin1987]

Interrogate, and then shoot.

[Dulat]

It’s better to shoot right away, and suddenly a relative

[Razvedka_Boem]

The weapon holds like a digging stick ..)

[Zymran]

https://tengrinews.kz/events/antiterroristicheskaya-operatsiya-almatyi-hronologi
ya-298854 /

[Wolka]

Southern Kazakhstan has really flared up, but something is still quiet in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, I can’t believe it, however, this does not happen, earlier this infection climbed from there. It is tough, but not cruel to stop such sorties ... it is quite possible that they are trying to divert the attention of Russia in every possible way from Syria, to bring out the remnants of the surviving bandits into the guise, and the Khokhlyaks, however, have also intensified

[Vladimir]

In my opinion, the news is too bloated, what’s the problem, the problem of shooting one of the two fools who attacked the police building, or is there a coup d'etat in Kazakhstan? The Turks were worse off and today the situation is as if there was nothing.

[Max_Bauder]

I agree, the most reasonable thought

[Khariton]

Quote: Max_Bauder

In my opinion, the news is too bloated, what’s the problem, the problem of shooting one of the two fools who attacked the police building, or is there a coup d'etat in Kazakhstan? The Turks were worse off and today the situation is as if there was nothing.

Of course, of course, it's okay .. just two people with guns walked smoking anasha ....)))

Quote: Max_Bauder

I agree, the most reasonable thought

Naturally ...! Nothing happened, once again ... They just accidentally shot the guys and disappeared! Hooligan ... Did I write correctly?

[Aposlya]

Quote: Chariton

Of course, of course, it's okay .. just two people with guns walked smoking anasha ....)))

one man...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

one man...

you will tell these tales to those who have never been to Alma-Ata
where is the Almola ROVD and where is the "office"
either you have idiots at all or you are a lover of noodles hanging on your ears

[Zymran]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

where is the Almola ROVD and where is the "office"

Explain not Almaty.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

somewhere 4 bus stops, on the map 2 km, really by car in traffic jams for 20-30 minutes

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

somewhere 4 bus stops, on the map 2 km, really by car in traffic jams for 20-30 minutes

You can safely walk 2 km on foot in an hour, but he probably rode in some places ... Yes, and who said that he rode the car all the way? In the video, he walked there exactly!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Now compare the time of the attacks and finally turn on your very gray matter
According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, at about 11 o'clock in the morning, an armed man tried to enter the Almaly District Department of Internal Affairs, wounded a police guard, took possession of a machine gun and fled. During the pursuit, he wounded two members of the Buran patrol crew. Earlier, he seized the car of a resident of the city, wounding him. The driver died from his injuries. Later, the suspect was identified, during armed resistance he was wounded and detained by police officers in the area of ​​Kazakhconcert JSC
https://tengrinews.kz/tv/novosti/proisshestviya/6975/
pay attention not a word about the "office"
at 10-54 the attack on the cops and at 11-08 on the "office"

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Now compare the time of the attacks and finally turn on your very gray matter

That you should have included your own for a long time, if you still have it! Who on the map drew a map of directions from Nikolsky Market to DKNB, huh? Now when you were poked with your nose in your own g ... you immediately changed shoes!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you will forgive but this is a fact, you don’t even have enough brains to stupidly compare the photo of the one who was arrested with the video of the one who attacked the office
the committee members stupidly missed him and now they are trying to hush everything up and release it on the brakes, and you take this noodles seriously

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you will forgive but this is a fact, you don’t even have enough brains to stupidly compare the photo of the one who was arrested with the video of the one who attacked the office

Judging by your posts - you yourself have said goodbye to your brains a long time ago! Or they were not there from birth! Well, your spinal cord is just enough for rudeness!
And by the way, maybe share a video where a terrorist attacks an office? I did not find this on the network ... Or are you fantasizing again?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

that is, he didn’t attack the office and this is all fiction of a video attack on the police department

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

that is, he didn’t attack the office and this is all fiction of a video attack on the police department

Well, it's you in the previous post that "surprised" everyone:

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you will forgive but this is a fact, you don’t even have enough brains to stupidly compare the photo of the one who was arrested with the video of the one who attacked the office

So where is the video then? No?
And someone here about some numbers trying to overwrite me ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

11.08. At the intersection of Abay Avenue and Bayzakova Street, an armed attack took place on DPP officers on duty near the Department of the National Security Committee of Kazakhstan in the city of Almaty. As a result, three received a gunshot wound. One died on the spot before the ambulance arrived. Another died from a head injury in the emergency room of the Central City Clinical Hospital, the third was taken to the emergency hospital.

all calm down or nothing was all a glitch, dad ordered everyone to consider it a conflict of one psycho with the cops on the basis of personal hostility

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

either you have idiots at all or you are a lover of noodles hanging on your ears

... or for some, the Wangi complex got a run ...

https://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/glava-knb-rasskazal-lichnosti-napadavshego
-ruvd-dknb-almatyi-298897 /

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

likes to be an idiot your own business, if it was ONE man, then you need to drive all your security officials with a filthy broom, as in the case of 10 professionals they’ll put the whole capital with cancer

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

likes to be an idiot your own business, if it was ONE man, then you need to drive all your security officials with a filthy broom, as in the case of 10 professionals they’ll put the whole capital with cancer

Go and drive out all the siloviks, otherwise you don’t need to expose others to idiots and do not need to poke a lot of mind with your tongue, especially if you yourself look like him!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

damn it, a miracle the time interval between the attack on the police department and the office is 14 (FOURTEEN) minutes, the distance between them is 2 km, you will continue to mow under proving that this was done by one person, and after finishing it all pulled into the center to the mountains of the akimat where he was detained
and here is another interesting post
13.40 The interception special plan was introduced in Almaty, according to the Almaty city operational headquarters to combat terrorism. One of the attackers was detained, one is wanted.

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

One of the attackers was detained, one is wanted.

That's when they catch the second and prove that there were TWO, then we must draw conclusions - who and where was! Everywhere in the video, the same person with a gun with a black shirt and beard ...
In the meantime, one in the standings ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

That's when they catch the second and prove that there were TWO, then we must draw conclusions - who and where was! Everywhere in the video, one with a black shirt and beard.

color blind ?!
but the second

by the way the one who took in cropped jeans

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

damn it, a miracle the time interval between the attack on the police department and the office is 14 (FOURTEEN) minutes, the distance between them is 2 km, you will continue to mow under proving that this was done by one person, and after finishing it all pulled into the center to the mountains of the akimat where he was detained

Read the incident chronicle, otherwise eating only rumors is harmful to health:

http://www.zakon.kz/4806522-kasymov-o-perestrelke-vsjo-proizoshlo.html

[Max_Bauder]

There is such a version of the incident, "not official", close to reality - they were taking the suspect, the woman's killer for interrogation (the dude was already "sitting"), they wanted to hang him on. He, when they had already entered the building, took the pistol away from one of them, banged it, knocked down the second, then took the Kalash and left the ROVD building. There, of course, there are a lot of "cops", around, they shot the police officers who were peacefully dozing in the patrol (we have cops attacked once every hundred years, no one expected, the eggs must be steel or suicidal). Then, threatening with a weapon, he took the taxi driver's car and went to the tax office (h.r.i.n. knows why, maybe someone else to get even with before death), there he shot the police, again took someone else's car, but already killed his owner (he did not believe the weapon , refused to give the "wheelbarrow"). Traveled around town and was finally caught. Why not terrorism? Note - no pre-attack, and the murder of "peaceful" (fie three times), no hostage-taking, children (fie again three times). The dude just shoots at the security forces trying to stop him. Conclusion - the criminal just "went crazy". Moreover, this version is supported by the fact that he was ONE, ONE CARL! And it is easier for the cops to "hang" everything on the "terrorist groups armed to the teeth" than on their own h.En.o.v.yu training. If there were really fired barmaley from a hot spot, with the skill of explosives, then there would be much more victims, and peaceful ones. Allah / God forbid this.

P.S. The dude, when he left the building of the ROVD, shouted "Allah akbar", because most of the ZK in the "zone" "hit" religion, in Russia they are mostly Russians, therefore, to Orthodoxy, and in Kazakhstan, of course, Kazakhs, i.e. to Islam. So he shouted something as inspiring as Hurray. All the same, he goes to death - for the murder of a cop, colleagues usually do not take prisoner. He knew that there was no going back. So this is such a confusion.

[Aposlya]

Quote: Max_Bauder

There is such a version of the incident, "not official", close to reality - they were taking the suspect, the woman's killer for interrogation (the dude was already "sitting"), they wanted to hang him on.

A very logical version ...

[grandfather Mih]

Where there is an American embassy-residence, they will suddenly consider that few have been killed, and will accept several "Hercules" with portraits of "dead presidents" to "improve democracy". I am afraid and worried.

[Olena]

-In Kazakhstan, all the same, soon everything will happen "as an adult" .., but for now all these shootings and riots look like "baby talk" ...
-Many influential states are interested in "real" unrest in Kazakhstan, right up to the "Kazakh Maidan" ...
-The USA is interested ... -they will immediately offer their "help" ... they will simultaneously roll out several of their military bases (land and sea) on the territory of Kazakhstan and in the Caspian ... -And most importantly, how everything is "far" from America and how everything is "next" to Russia ... is just a dream for the United States ...
- China is interested ... - it will also immediately "hurry up" with its "help" ... - China urgently needs to cut through the "Great Silk Road" by any methods and means (until the whole vaunted Chinese economy began to fall apart) ... and a wide access to the Caspian ... -China will also use its numerous troops to protect and stabilize its "interests" in Kazakhstan ... -and will also deploy its military bases in Kazakhstan ...
- Turkey is interested ... - it also needs to start its "own game" and urgently get out of the temporary "isolation" into which it fell ... and it needs cheap hydrocarbon resources, which will easily be provided by "unstable" Kazakhstan, as well as Kazakhstan will not be able to impede in any way an even closer "cooperation" between Turkey and Turkmenistan ...
-For Russia, the collapse of Kazakhstan is not profitable ... -Russia still cannot and will not have time to take back its legal territory ... -all North Kazakhstan ... with Baikonur and with all, once Russia and the infrastructure built .. -All the "events" in Novorossiya in Ukraine have proved it ... -and just a smoldering military conflict on the territory of Kazakhstan, literally "close by" ... -Russia absolutely does not need ...

[Khariton]

Quote: olena

-For Russia, the collapse of Kazakhstan is not profitable ... -Russia still cannot and will not have time to take back its legal territory ... -all North Kazakhstan ... with Baikonur and with all, once Russia and the infrastructure built .. -All the "events" in Novorossia in Ukraine have proved it ... -and just a smoldering military conflict on the territory of Kazakhstan, literally "close by" ... -Russia absolutely does not need ..

Great analysis ...! You are right and obviously Kazakhs are not minus you, but someone very interested in the collapse of everything that is close to Russia! There are such comrades here .. And in the world too, to whom is all this profitable ...

[wow]

Brothers Kazakhs, crush this pa.d.a.l.b. in the bud. Do not take prisoner ....

[Khariton]

Quote: yo-mine

Brothers Kazakhs, crush this pa.d.a.l.b. in the bud. Do not take prisoner ....

Something they do not move there ... (money is urgently transferred to offshores.?) There, after all, they have solid private property with American capital .. Nazarbayev, who is there "adviser" Tony Blair ..? Let Kamiron take more and from Israel (tikhushniki))) there are many ... If it goes on like this, they will disperse you again in yurts! Let’s decide there, stop drinking teas .. Sorry, it hurts and becomes alarmingly simple!

[brasist]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: dauria

Officials block access to information

and who is blocking what for you ?!
https://tengrinews.kz/events/antiterroristicheskaya-operatsiya-almatyi-hronologi

ya-298854 /
read develop
this is the BBC http://www.bbc.com/russian/news-36822541

https://www.zakon.kz/

[Khariton]

Well, brothers, Kazakhs, and your turn has come .... I remember two years, you spawned here, what cool special services and Army you have! And most importantly, the people and the party are one ... NGOs work great there! "Congratulations to you" and us too, a new hot spot on the Russian border is already smoldering!
Wait for the guests ... (no offense, but you can smell out the country ..)

[Olena]

-Yes, judging by the minuses ... -the lack of Kazakhs on the site is not ... -And the Kazakhs’s self-esteem at all ... -not to occupy ... -But, unfortunately ... - this all ends. .. Alas ...
- About three or four months ago, the Russian special services (as always "fraternally-operatively") once again "helped" Kazakh Nazarbayev to avoid another "troubles" during the "unrest" in Kazakhstan ... - "they will help" and now ... -and more and more in the future "will help" ... -But this is not a solution to the problem ... -Or Kazakhs think "differently" ... -Well, God be their judge ... -Let time be everything will put "in places" ...

[brasist]

Before wagging your tongue, first find out what really happened, otherwise all the masters should judge ...

[Aposlya]

Quote: olena

About three or four months ago, the Russian special services (as always "fraternally and quickly") once again "helped" Kazakh Nazarbayev to avoid another "trouble" during the "unrest" in Kazakhstan.

And what happened in KZ in the month of February? Or do you mean the events of May? And what side was Russia marked there?

[Olena]

-Although the events in Kazakhstan on 05.06.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX, when there was an attack on a military unit and an arms store .. remember ..?

[Aposlya]

Quote: olena

At least the events in Kazakhstan on 05.06.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX, when there was an attack on a military unit and an arms store .. remember ..?

Is this three or four months ago, according to you? Do you generally live in adequate or in a different reality? Now it is July by the way, and the events in Aktobe happened one month ago, not 3-4!
And how did Russia help there? Or a sensation sucked from a finger ?!

[Olena]

-Date specifically indicated 05.06.2016 year ... -this is one event ...
- "Three to four months" ... - it was indicated in another post and about other events ...
-This is "two big differences" ... -Or only minuses of the mind are enough to "drum" ...
- Every time I explain ... "I am not going to use rubles and apples", "Kazakh intellectual" ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Well, everyone will now calculate how many times you visited branches on the Republic of Kazakhstan and will reproach you with this
but never mind, this tipus has already crap so much in his posts that you can ignore

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, everyone will now calculate how many times you visited branches on the Republic of Kazakhstan and will reproach you with this
but never mind, this tipus has already crap so much in his posts that you can ignore

But you have to cuddle with us offended ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you will poke a finger in your ass,
what about the rest, what is there based on photographs of TWO detainees and according to statements by security officials about TWO detainees?

[Dulat]

Of course you can visit if you don’t chop off part of the territory. And if the Chinese come, it’s better to chop off the entire territory, at least as a nation we’ll survive. And I will zealously fight in the Russian Army against the hegemonic superpowers: China and the USA if they encroach on our land, resources, people and way of life

[Olena]

-Yes ... -Hundreds of different peoples lived in China, having their own culture, language, mentality, etc. ... -Now they all became ... Chinese ... -And China has a colossal thousand-year "experience" like other peoples "assimilate" under the Chinese ...

[Aposlya]

Quote: olena

-Yes ... -Hundreds of different peoples lived in China, having their own culture, language, mentality, etc. ... -Now they all became ... Chinese ... -And China has a colossal thousand-year "experience" like other peoples "assimilate" under the Chinese ...

Less fiction to read! Uigurs, Kazakhs live in the same China, and somehow they do not become Chinese at all. Preserve their language, culture, etc.

[Cat man null]

Quote: olena

Now they have all become ... Chinese

- say it to the Uighurs, for example
- I guarantee - the Uighurs will be very surprised ...

[behemot]

publicly burn alive so that other faithful can see that X is in their full face and not a meeting with Allah, the pork must first fall to failure to fill.

[Khariton]

Quote: behemot

publicly burn alive so that other faithful can see that X is in their full face and not a meeting with Allah, the pork must first fall to failure to fill.

They didn’t even catch them ... That time it was the same! They don’t touch the peaceful, so the population is preparing for a rebellion against the government .. Clever!

[Khariton]

Two devils put the whole of Kazakhstan on their ears ... But they never caught one! Well, you give a damn, I'm in shock ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

one made a shooter in the KNB, and the latter also dumped with a gun and went far enough away

[bugaev2005]

Yes, not two, but one. The second captured driver, who ran away in turmoil. And in general it seems that this is just a mentally ill person.

[Khariton]

Quote: bugaev2005

Yes, not two, but one. The second captured driver, who ran away in turmoil. And in general it seems that this is just a mentally ill person.

Maybe, but lately, there are many patients there in black clothes with machine guns appear .. And you declare the highest degree of threat! Coincidence? I don’t think .. The country has sold out, so they want to change your "elite" much cheaper .. And to annoy Russia!

[bugaev2005]

When in America whole schools are being shot down or by the police, why doesn’t anyone even think that it’s someone who wants to change their elite? Here is exactly the same case! And there is no need to exaggerate and look for a conspiracy conspiracy in everything! There was a psycho loner who took advantage of the carelessness of the police, that's all!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: bugaev2005

When in America whole schools are being shot down or by the police, why doesn’t anyone even think that it’s someone who wants to change their elite?

Are you naive or just pretending to be?

[bugaev2005]

In Novosibirsk, in the 70s, a bus with passengers was blown up on Zatulinka and a little later the plane crashed into the house on Stanislavsky, were there also terrorist attacks? Nowadays, it would certainly be the Americans who were accused, and in one case the i-diot was driving dynamite to stifle fish, in the other she wanted to kill her mother-in-law! Blame the Rothschilds and Rockefellers? Belderberry Club? Always crazy at any order were! And you need to distinguish between political ordered terrorist attacks like a truck in Nice and the shooting of the magazine’s editorial office from the tragedy that happened today in Almaty! Something like this!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: bugaev2005

Always crazy at any order were! And you need to distinguish between political ordered terrorist attacks like a truck in Nice and the shooting of the magazine’s editorial office from the tragedy that happened today in Almaty! Something like this!

Well, yes, well, first, Aktyubinsk is now Alma-Ata and the whole thing is crazy, are you comfortable in the sand, is it not hard to breathe?

[Khariton]

Quote: bugaev2005

When in America whole schools are being shot down or by the police, why doesn’t anyone even think that it’s someone who wants to change their elite? Here is exactly the same case! And there is no need to exaggerate and look for a conspiracy conspiracy in everything! There was a psycho loner who took advantage of the carelessness of the police, that's all!

America does not border Russia ... You finally understand! They always have it quietly .. (there was a Cuban crisis)))) They pump resources from all of us .. and poison us!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: bugaev2005

Yes, not two, but one

excuse the garbage, from the "virgin land" to the "office" for about 15 minutes without traffic jams, with traffic jams for at least half an hour and that he came here and joked in a cop after sat down and calmly went to the committee members and no one took him? !!!
if so then ALL security officers need to be driven by a filthy broom
although the one who was in the office, after managing to walk to the circus on foot and was hanging around with abalone with Kalash, all you need to drive all of them is not the siloviki, but some kind of yard team

[Қarabas]

Quote: bugaev2005

Yes, not two, but one. The second captured driver, who ran away in turmoil. And in general it seems that this is just a mentally ill person.

Yes, but I didn’t understand how he moved around the city like that if he was alone? There is no logic. Appeared at the Nikolsky Bazaar, then appeared at the former. Anniversary, and then he was seen at the building of the National Security Committee, which is on Abay Bayzakov ... How does he travel around the city like that ?? Came down, then went up?

[bugaev2005]

In the near future, the whole picture will become clear, acquaintances from the authorities say that there were a couple of people who were randomly detained, like))) Just such a level of our special services. (((Alas ... That's right here who wrote in comments that it’s necessary to drive them all off a broom ... maybe after this incident they comb out ... And the old joke in the subject begs. The police handed out assault rifles so that they would not have their guns taken away!

[Aposlya]

Quote: karabas

Yes, but I didn’t understand how he moved around the city like that if he was alone? There is no logic. Appeared at the Nikolsky Bazaar, then appeared at the former. Anniversary, and then he was seen at the building of the National Security Committee, which is on Abay Bayzakov ... How does he travel around the city like that ?? Came down, then went up?

it’s kind of like capturing cars ...

[Aposlya]

Quote: Chariton

Two devils put the whole of Kazakhstan on their ears ... But they never caught one! Well, you give a damn, I'm in shock ..

firstly he was alone
secondly, they’ve been caught long ago, in the afternoon ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

firstly he was alone

Yes, turn on your Moscow
how much time from virgin to the office to go to go no longer say

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Yes, turn on your Moscow
how much time from virgin to the office to go to go no longer say

You would have to turn it on yourself!
It’s only 5 and a half quarters of it on foot! In an hour, it will pass in any way, if you walk at a leisurely hurry ... And they searched for it for several hours! More noise was ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

It’s only 5 and a half quarters of it on foot!

sick?! 10 quarters (2 km 30 minutes on foot if you don’t need to hide and huddle) and unlike you, I went through them more than once in my life

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

sick?! 10 quarters (2 km 30 minutes on foot if you don’t need to hide and huddle) and unlike you, I went through them more than once in my life

You do not hang your sores on others! I’m in these places, by the way, and I’m better to know how to get from point A to point B! You see in your Prussia and have forgotten everything already! From Baitursynov, to Bayzakov and in an hour you can easily walk by foot. Although if you walk on crutches, then you can probably be late ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

From Baitursynov, to Bayzakov and an hour by foot you can safely walk

you don’t really mow like that, then you have 5 quarters when you were bumped into the nose that you sing songs for more than 10 that lives there, tell me how in 16 minutes you ran from the St. Nicholas church to the office

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

you don’t really mow like that, then you have 5 quarters when you were bumped into the nose that you sing songs for more than 10 that lives there, tell me how in 16 minutes you ran from the St. Nicholas church to the office

The stocks do not understand this!
Already 16 minutes? Why was he in such a hurry? Looking for how many hours then? An hour or two? We won’t reach in two hours?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

here is the location of objects and a possible route
so that there were no questions, he didn’t attack the building where the KGB of the Kazakh SSR was located (it’s really nearby), but on the fact that he was on Bayzakov

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

here is the location of objects and a possible route
so that there were no questions, he didn’t attack the building where the KGB of the Kazakh SSR was located (it’s really nearby), but on the fact that he was on Bayzakov

2 km total Karl, TWO !!!
The speed of a person is approximate when walking 5 km / h !!! Have you forgotten how to think at all? Hello garage!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Well, think about it, if of course there is something, no, I will count you 24 minutes
the time difference between the attacks is 16 minutes, not considering that he should spend time fighting in the police department

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, think about it, if of course there is something, no, I will count you 24 minutes
the time difference between the attacks is 16 minutes, not considering that he should spend time fighting in the police department

Unlike you, there is something ...
There was no battle in the police department, no need to fantasize! There was a stupid seizure of weapons was pulled from a dead policeman ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

There was a stupid seizure of weapons was pulled from a dead policeman ...

Well, yes, it took 1 second?
in any case, at least five minutes

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, yes, it took 1 second?
in any case, at least five minutes

How long does it take to shoot a person point blank and remove a machine gun from a corpse? Or do you think at a snail's pace?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Aposlya

How long does it take to shoot a person point blank and remove a machine gun from a corpse? Or do you think at a snail's pace?

it makes no sense to argue with you, you’re obese as a ram, you can continue to sing your mantra that everything is calm in RK

[Aposlya]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

it makes no sense to argue with you, you’re obese as a ram, you can continue to sing your mantra that everything is calm in RK

What do you care about all this? Or do you take an example from your goats - that I won’t eat, then about.s.r.ru?

[Scandinavian]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

can you cite the facts?

This sofa troll has a program from the State Department "the scoop is evil and the empire of evil." And he will not provide the facts, as always. But to blurt out the tongue is a master.

[Khariton]

Kazakhstan remember this ... There you have a lot of "advisers" of all kinds! Don't screw up the country like these! Don't rely on Russia, we don't have enough for everyone .. (especially money, as many of you demand from us ..))))

[brasist]

I don’t understand some of the comments (the two put it on their ears, the KNB doesn’t work ...), well, remember what happened in Russia and is continuing now, so you need to restore order and not lower others and make enemies. and they’ll figure out what's what.

[Khariton]

Quote: brasist

I don’t understand some of the comments (the two put it on their ears, the KNB doesn’t work ...), well, remember what happened in Russia and is continuing now, so you need to restore order and not lower others and make enemies. and they’ll figure out what's what.

Ukraine figured out .. Peace in the Donbass bombed every day! This question is very serious for Russia! These devils may be at our border and we won’t have time to blink an eye! And NATO bases will appear there abruptly ... Well, you’re just naive! They don’t know how to figure it out .. They got used to it and got fat there ... Bai! Then they’ll run away to the yurts, and we should disentangle again! Yes, I’m harsh, but maybe it will finally reach them that everything is very serious .. They will start robbing and killing (they have already begun) ..But Russia’s turn!

[brasist]

And why do you think that there are only traitors around or want to have them? And do not expose yourself as the navel of the earth saving the whole world alone ...

[Khariton]

Quote: brasist

And why do you think that there are only traitors around or want to have them? And do not expose yourself as the navel of the earth saving the whole world alone ...

We want to survive in Russia ... I see, I think I put it! Tolerasts, we won’t and don’t hope ... Judging by the cons, a lot of you on the site have bred and do not live badly ..))) My advice to you is to change the flag of the Airborne Forces to brasist /// Do not dishonor him!

[Chisayna]

And tell Hariton, what did you disentangle? What conflict did you participate in? Where did you earn your sore heart?

[Aposlya]

Quote: Chisain

And tell Hariton, what did you disentangle? What conflict did you participate in? Where did you earn your sore heart?

probably he’s gotten drunk ... alcohol, he sets his heart!

[Қarabas]

Quote: Chariton

Yes, I’m harsh, but maybe it will finally reach them

Hariton, and you don’t take much on yourself? You probably think you're the smartest, huh? Nevertheless, we understand better than you what, because we live in the KZ. And you really don’t know anything broadcast here, give out tips, open your eyes.

[Khariton]

Quote: karabas

Quote: Chariton

Yes, I’m harsh, but maybe it will finally reach them

Hariton, and you don’t take much on yourself? You probably think you're the smartest, huh? Nevertheless, we understand better than you what, because we live in the KZ. And you really don’t know anything broadcast here, give out tips, open your eyes.

I'm just scared for my family ... I tell you honestly! If your gouging ... Ours can also be .. And there is nothing to defend, then ... These are the things! Trying to understand the level of danger and what to do That's all!

[Қarabas]

Quote: Chariton

I'm just scared for my family

So do I. I often happen to be in those places where the main events took place today. And today it was supposed to be there, but for various reasons was not. So, contrary to the recommendations of the KNB posted on their website, how to behave at a red danger level, namely: not to try to detain the criminal, I would probably rush if he appeared near me. Anger takes to see our cops, although they are not perfect far away, on the floor in blood; to understand what everything can result in if there are a lot of such fanatics (and I believe that this is not a lone criminal, but a religious fanatic, and he was certainly not the only one).
But still, I believe that the security forces are holding back the situation in the country, everything could be much worse, and what is happening is now the maximum that fanatics can do, and then they will be pressed even harder

[Khariton]

Where are all the Kazakhs ...? In the morning everyone was so active and greyhound! Israel is silent and minus one ..)))) I warned you ...

[brasist]

Looks like "greyhound is your strong point.

[Khariton]

Quote: brasist

Looks like "greyhound is your strong point.

You are here "on duty" as I understand it ... I do not want to swear with you .. You are not my level!

[Aposlya]

Quote: Chariton

I do not want to swear with you .. You are not my level!

PPC conceit! Are you thumping again?

[Khariton]

Quote: Aposlya

Quote: Chariton

I do not want to swear with you .. You are not my level!

PPC conceit! Are you thumping again?

And all that you can present ...? Oh Kazakhs!

[Aposlya]

Quote: Chariton

And all that you can present ...? Oh Kazakhs!

And what to take from you a troll? Only to regret unless ... Alcohol does not bring to good ...

[brasist]

Quote: Chariton

Quote: brasist

And why do you think that there are only traitors around or want to have them? And do not expose yourself as the navel of the earth saving the whole world alone ...

We want to survive in Russia ... I see, I think I put it! Tolerasts, we won’t and don’t hope ... Judging by the cons, a lot of you on the site have bred and do not live badly ..))) My advice to you is to change the flag of the Airborne Forces to brasist /// Do not dishonor him!

I served under this flag and looking at you you can see further the bread slicers and did not go away ...

[Razvedka_Boem]

Surprisingly gloating through in many comments. If Kazakhstan breaks out, then this will be reflected primarily in Russia. And throughout Central Asia, too.
We have a bunch of armed scumbags here across the river .. I would even say a big bunch .. We are the only barrier separating them from you.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

can you give me malicious remarks?

[Mentat]

Quote: aksakal

Maybe it was the Russians who were shouting that they were tired of feeding all "these Asians" !?

Something I do not remember with the Union at all. It began much, much later, and it spun mainly in a liberal environment.

[Aposlya]

Quote: Mentat

Something I do not remember with the Union at all. It began much, much later, and it spun mainly in a liberal environment.

What was, it was! Already at the end of Katastroika, it was in full swing ... Well, now it takes other forms: if earlier "We fed all the republics!", Now "Stop feeding the Caucasus!" ... And then what? "Is it enough to feed the Far East? Siberia? Etc.? That way, with such slogans, you don't even need enemies, destroy everything yourself ...

[Mentat]

Quote: Aposlya

Quote: Mentat

Something I do not remember with the Union at all. It began much, much later, and it spun mainly in a liberal environment.

What was, it was! Already at the end of Katastroika, it was in full swing ... Well, now it takes other forms: if earlier "We fed all the republics!", Now "Stop feeding the Caucasus!" ... And then what? "Is it enough to feed the Far East? Siberia? Etc.? That way, with such slogans, you don't even need enemies, destroy everything yourself ...

I put you a well-deserved minus. Where you had it, I did not know, at that time I had not heard any such conversation. As for the Caucasus, I can only repeat: these are ravings of libertine idiots who repeat what they were paid for, or the close-up dumbasses with brainwashed ones who do not understand that the Caucasus as an abstract phenomenon cannot exist, that even if someone came to head crazy idea to separate Russian territories, the Caucasus will immediately turn into an ulcer, clogged by mercenaries and ISIS to the eyeballs.

About "feed the Far East and Siberia" - this is some kind of your invention in general. This is not found anywhere, even in the most trash Internet trash. You better put order in Alma-Ata there, if you, of course, have something to do with Kazakhstan in general, about which doubts creep in, judging by how you persistently repeat liberoid nonsense.

[Aposlya]

Quote: Mentat

Where you had it, I did not know, at that time I had not heard any such conversation. As for the Caucasus, I can only repeat: these are ravings of libertine idiots who repeat what they were paid for, or the close-up dumbasses with brainwashed ones who do not understand that the Caucasus as an abstract phenomenon cannot exist, that even if someone came to head crazy idea to separate Russian territories

But am I against it? It's just that I often see this on the open spaces of Runet. There is no smoke without fire. Even in verses on this subject they express ...

Already fed ...
Vladimir Kosenkov
"Enough to feed Siberia, the Far East, the Urals, the Volga region, the Moscow region ...". From Vladimir Putin. Russia: a national issue. ”


Beyond the Ural Mountains Dark
Yes, in the capital city of Moscow,
Guys are sitting foreheads are oily,
How in Siberia they think to live for me.

How much to drink, how much to eat, they decide for me
What to put in a basket for me
Meticulously on the accounts believe
How much in the world can I live.

On earth, what am I allowed to do,
And what I should not want
And for that they take the original,
Gold, silver, coal and oil.

Unbelted guys at all,
Clubs, yachts are buying up for oil,
Mother thinks about shaking
Varnakov to warm these,

Gas to Europe, and I'm here with a splinter,
Forest and fish there, and copper,
My head is full of buckle
How long will we put up with this.

... so look for enemies there. Well, we’ll put things in order ...

[Mentat]

Quote: Aposlya

Often in the open spaces such a run.

In what rubbish swarm that "often meet"? Censor, Novaya Gazeta, Kavkaz Center, mighty ukrosmi? Give a couple of sources.

In a touching poem - on which resource, again, did you find a “masterpiece”? - there is nothing about “stop feeding Siberia”.

Well, we’ll put things in order ...

Happy for you. True, I can’t believe that, judging by your addictions, you are involved in putting things in order. Rather, the opposite.

Your phrase, “That way with such slogans, you don’t need any enemies, you’ll ruin everything yourself ...” doesn’t hint at this, but just a semaphore.