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Tu-22M3 worked on the militants in Syria

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It became known that the Russian Ministry of Defense actually planned the operation "Retaliation" against terrorists in Syria after the news of the attack on a helicopter with a Russian crew. The press service of the main defense department reports that six bombers of the Far aviation (Tu-22M3) took off from airfields in Russia and, having flown to Syria, attacked ISIS fighters.


Tu-22M3 worked on the militants in Syria


Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
On the morning of July 12, six Tu-22М3 long-range bombers, which took off from home airfields in the Russian Federation, delivered a concentrated blow of high-explosive fragmentation ammunition at the facilities of the IG terrorist group in the region east of Palmyra, Es-Suhn and Arak.


The report says that during the operation a large camp of ISIL militants was destroyed, as well as other terrorist facilities in the UAR. Summary MO RF (leads RIA News):
The blow destroyed a large field camp of militants, three ammunition and weapons depots, three tank, four infantry fighting vehicles, eight vehicles equipped with heavy machine guns, as well as a large number of enemy manpower


In the Defense Ministry noted that the "partners" were warned that the Russian long-range bombers will work in Syria for the purposes. The report says that after the antiterrorist mission, all Russian aircraft returned to Russia to home bases.

Press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
All airplanes returned safely and landed at their airfields. To ensure safety of flights, representatives of the international coalition were notified in advance about the time of strikes and flight corridors.
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  1. Smoked
    Smoked 12 July 2016 16: 20
    +18
    The route is interesting and whether there is Turkey in it.
    1. makst83
      makst83 12 July 2016 16: 21
      +55
      good commemoration for our guys, helicopter pilots! soldier
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 July 2016 17: 15
        +129
        Quote: makst83
        good commemoration for our guys, helicopter pilots! soldier

        Or maybe it's time not only to remember that? Maybe it's time to ask? When a Greek pilot shot down a Turkish plane over its territory, Turkey demanded the extradition of this pilot in order to try him. And whatever letters of apology the Greeks wrote, the Turks did not remove this requirement to extradite the Greek pilot.
        Maybe it's time for us not to remember or respond with bombing strikes, but to demand the extradition of the Turkish pilot in order to judge him? Maybe it's time to pull the rope that leads to the people and organizations that the stingers put to ISIS, after which a helicopter with our pilots was shot down and "clean up" this abomination without looking back at Europe and Washington?
        Or is the blood of a Russian soldier worthless? How long will hostile actions towards our soldiers, and indeed the Russian people in general, remain unpunished without a target?
        Maybe it's time to finally do something with Ukraine? A fascist regime has been nurtured by our side, which clearly and understandably declares that Russia is an ENEMY! So maybe it's time to start calling things by their proper names and start acting accordingly?
        The entire territory of the former USSR is a TERRITORY OF RUSSIAN INTERESTS, and this is a fact. So maybe it's time to state this directly without indistinct mumbling and scrabbling?
        If our plane was shot down, then there should be no talk of any thaw in relations with Turkey. The only conversation that should be held is the requirements for the issuance of a Turkish pilot.
        As for Ukraine, I think it's time to put things in order in this circus, hard and fast. It is impossible to imagine that an anti-American regime will sit in Mexico and mattresses will be quietly put up with it. So Ukraine for us is the same territory of our interests as Mexico is for the United States.
        Observing what is happening, lately I have been jarred by the term “defense doctrine.” Maybe it's time not only to defend, but also to show fangs and claws? And if aggression is manifested in relation to our military, citizens or Russians in the post-Soviet space, Russia is obliged to respond, up to the use of force.
        Honestly tired of the fact that in the Baltics, Russians are not considered people and their rights are trampled upon. The attitude of many governments and politicians in the post-Soviet space towards the Russians has reached. This war with Donbass has reached. Isn't it time to start reacting to all this harshly and clearly?
        With our silence and indistinctness, we have reached the point that NATO is at our borders, and such regimes as the Polish, Baltic, Turkish, etc. boldly wipe their feet about us, pouring mud on us in front of the whole world, and we are showing tolerance.
        They are not children! If some mongrel starts barking in our direction, do not try to stroke her, so that she wagged her tail or not notice, but is it time to pull out the fangs of this misunderstanding?
        Maybe the time of talking and searching for understanding has passed, where it will never be if you are weak? Maybe it's time to start somewhere and give in the face, somewhere to take your own, somewhere to return what you gave in the 90s?
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 12 July 2016 17: 21
          +12
          Quote: NEXUS
          The entire territory of the former USSR is a TERRITORY OF RUSSIAN INTERESTS, and this is a fact. So maybe it's time to state this directly without indistinct mumbling and scrabbling?



          Andrei! In almost everything in your comments I agree, however, the point is that the Tu-22M3 covered quite significant targets in Syria from the territory of the Russian Federation ...

          Syria is not the territory of the former USSR ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 July 2016 17: 26
            +33
            Quote: weksha50
            Syria is not the territory of the former USSR ...

            Syria is the territory of the interests of the USSR in the past and the territory of the interests of Russia in the present and in the future. So maybe it's time to defend these interests tough and targeted?
            1. Ramzaj99
              Ramzaj99 12 July 2016 17: 39
              +10
              The Russian Defense Ministry noted that the "partners" were warned that Russian long-range bombers would work in Syria on targets.

              It seems to me that I need to end up with the warnings of the "coalition", because after the warnings, as a rule, the main bastards at the last moment, "quite by accident" manage to escape.
              1. Ride78
                Ride78 12 July 2016 19: 18
                +6
                Sometimes I get the impression that as they decide here on the site, the government will do so. No offense to the inhabitants. winked
            2. ochakow703
              ochakow703 12 July 2016 19: 54
              0
              And it is necessary to work on this territory by all available means, including land-based specialized units. I am sure that all "agreements with partners" only harm our line of conduct in Syria, and it is unnecessary to bow to them, and Bashar finally needs to remember about the sovereignty of his country and remind the coalition that no one invited them to sovereign territory. And with the help of Russia, declare not only a no-fly zone over Syria, but also declare any (!) Armed formations other than the Syrian Army (subordinate to the legitimate government) outlawed, with their subsequent destruction. And hammer, hammer, hammer. This is the only way to achieve victory. Just for a moment, imagine the negotiations with Hitler in 41, 42, 43, 44 and even in 45 ... We already have a lot of shortcomings following the results of the Great Patriotic War, for example, Bandera.
              1. Al1977
                Al1977 14 July 2016 09: 40
                0
                Quote: ochakow703
                And it is necessary to work on this territory by all available means

                Not cheaper than nuclear weapons?
            3. evge-malyshev
              evge-malyshev 12 July 2016 21: 08
              -1
              Quote: NEXUS
              Syria is the territory of the interests of the USSR in the past and the territory of the interests of Russia in the present and in the future. So maybe it's time to defend these interests tough and targeted?


              Uv. NEXUS! I read your "discussion" with opponents. I warmly support your position regarding the affairs in Syria, Ukraine, relations with the so-called Western "partners." Of course, we look around all the time: what will the "partners", the media, and, finally, our own opposition say about us? I agree with you that it is necessary to defend one's interests tougher: all the same, new sanctions cannot be avoided, not only political, economic, but even sports. Thanks!!!
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 July 2016 21: 31
                +1
                Quote: evge-malyshev
                Uv. NEXUS! I read your "discussion" with opponents. I warmly support your position regarding the affairs in Syria, Ukraine, relations with the so-called Western "partners."

                Thank you for your support, Dear evge-malyshev. hi
              2. your1970
                your1970 12 July 2016 22: 12
                +1
                evge-malyshev
                "We keep looking around: what will the" partners ", the media and, finally, our own opposition say about us?"
                -Are we ready? Do we have enough forces / means? Is the army trained and mobilized? This is what our leadership is looking at (I hope!), and not at the yelling of the media and the opposition, I repeat at the reality (and they are not very rosy) and not at media bullshit ...
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 12 July 2016 22: 15
                  +1
                  Quote: your1970
                  -Are we ready? Do we have enough forces / resources? Is the army trained and mobilized?

                  Answer one question - WE WILL BE GIVEN FOR THIS ALL THE TIME?
              3. Al1977
                Al1977 14 July 2016 09: 42
                0
                Quote: evge-malyshev
                I agree with you that it is necessary to defend one's interests more strictly: all the same, new sanctions cannot be avoided, not only political, economic, but even sports. Thank!!!

                So maybe it's time to deal with our enemies "hard". As the president said, if a fight is inevitable, hit first! Isn't it time to use nuclear weapons? After all, the enemy is only getting stronger and closer to our borders?
          2. tolian
            tolian 12 July 2016 19: 54
            +1
            Contact Assad on this issue. Or not in the subject?
        2. Alekseev
          Alekseev 12 July 2016 17: 49
          +21
          Quote: NEXUS
          Or maybe it's time not only to remember that?

          Quote: NEXUS
          can pull out the fangs of this misunderstanding?

          I want it myself, yes! laughing
          BUT in order to be confident, without looking back, there is no one to "tear fangs" at:
          First of all, as Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin) taught, to establish rigid, exemplary internal order. And then our fart is crazy, and his women too, some thieves in the law in the palaces are delayed, etc.
          In the second, make such a leap in the economy so that the Russian Federation produces 6-8 percent of world GDP.
          Well, to study military science in a real way, to have not a few dozen modern aircraft, but several hundred, thousands.
          And so that the children of the "elite" study and live in Russia, and the capital was kept in Russia.
          Then, min hertz, we'll break their heads! yes
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 July 2016 17: 59
            +6
            Quote: Alekseev
            First of all, as Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin) taught, to establish rigid, exemplary internal order. And then our fart is crazy, and his women too, some thieves in the law in the palaces are delayed, etc.

            Corruption is enemy number one today, and it is true. I said that corrupt officials should not only be imprisoned and confiscated all the loot, but also from their immediate entourage, if they do not prove the legitimacy of their income. And imprisoned far and long. To this day, it hurts me that Serdyukov escaped justice, like Vasilyeva. At the same time, adding up all the money that these figures steal, I'm sure you can build a fleet no weaker than Mattress's.
            Quote: Alekseev
            In the second, make such a leap in the economy so that the Russian Federation produces 6-8 percent of world GDP.

            These are long-term tasks, but I'm talking about today. It's time to tie up to huddle to your borders muttering evil. Then there is nowhere to retreat. And if the same Poroshenko declares that Russia is an enemy, what other words should there be from him in order for us to understand that it is time to clean up this garish lad with all his gop company, and to restore order by the border of the state that has grown to our side.
            1. SCHWERIN
              SCHWERIN 12 July 2016 19: 21
              +4
              Good evening. I read your philippic (no humor) and the question arose, why is this not done?
              Here I live in the Russian Federation, my son graduated from a Russian university and works here. And if the opposite? I would live here, my own business or sinecure ..... And there is a house in Italy, Germany or the States. Serious account in a solid. Children graduated from universities in the United States. Wealthy old age in the West. What else does a man need? And Russia?
              And who cares about planes, Pinocchio, Armata? AND?
              I didn't really like the USSR. But! Our topmen and civil servants did not have movable and immovable property over the hill and therefore they had nothing to lose. Like all the people. Under the Soviets, a Zhigul was owned. Even 6 acres were not owned.
              I'm not talking about the times of the IVS. Therefore, we won the Second World War. Although there were traitors and pests. But there was a small percentage of them. You know, there was such a novel - "Cast a cold gaze" So I advise you to do it.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 July 2016 19: 32
                +4
                Quote: SCHWERIN
                Therefore, we won the Second World War

                We won the war not because there were no real estate or accounts abroad ... but because we have such a genome. I gave these figures ...over the past 1000 years, Russia has fought for 650 years.And as you can see, it did not disappear, but even grew by territories.
                Quote: SCHWERIN
                You know, there was such a novel - "Cast a cold gaze" So I advise you to do it.

                I read it. I look with a cold look. I just think that the time of half-measures, indistinctness and offers to be friends when no one hears has passed. languidly snore when he decides to use your wife, or take the car. Sorry for the allegory.
                So why is Russia tolerating that? Because we are weak or because there is no will? So forgive, but where do we retreat further, do not tell me? You yourself are not tired of wiping yourself off and saying, be patient, maybe it will cost?
                It won't do it, and you know that.
                1. SCHWERIN
                  SCHWERIN 12 July 2016 23: 22
                  +3
                  It is pleasant to communicate with a well-read person. "Cast a cold eye" was like that. Written by a woman, American or Canadian. "Foreign Literature" magazine. I read to them then. The name just stuck in my memory.
                  You know, about the apartment break-in. As a trustworthy person, I have small arms. Smooth and grooved. And while living in the country, I took care of my safety. Well, like armed and very dangerous. But after reading our good laws, I learned that I DON'T HAVE the RIGHT in the event of an attack on me in a house (not an apartment because there are floors and double steel doors) to use a firearm. Those. if goons (2 - 3 people) without weapons climb through the window to me, I cannot use a firearm, only on fists. Judicial practice and its application do not allow me to use a weapon in the event of a break-in.
                  I have been to the States many times. Visited gun shops. And this is what surprised me. Hall, weapons on the lodgements. You can take it, look, turn it around. Me like
                  grew up surprised. Imagine, you can grab him and run away with him. I twisted my head trying to see the cameras. Didn't see. Probably disguised. I don't want to be unfounded, it's just that their business card is not at hand. But that was HOUSTON.
                  We, in the store, will give you a weapon if you have a license.
                  A lot of people have weapons in the States. The fact that shoots inappropriately is a very small percentage. Thousandths.
                  About to endure. I'll be honest. I don't want a war. You know, we have a GDP (one). The rest are slaves. His father fought in my opinion on Nevsky Pyatachka. My grandfather Sokolov Sergei Kuzmich - an NKVD officer commanded the marines there. I hate it when the NKVD Hayat. The NKVD divisions detained the Germans at the beginning of the war until the arrival of the regular units. As connections, they fought to death. Well this is a digression. Requiem for the soldiers of the NKVD.
                  So, VVP knows firsthand what war and blockade are. And he is trying to peacefully resolve the situation and not lose face. It's my opinion.
                  You know the Russian mentality, like that, right in the eye. We are very hot. The same Anglo-Saxons are different. Militant, but masters of intrigue. We need to learn from them.
                  I remember a general who deceived the enemy. He was told it was a hoax. He replied, not a deception, but a MILITARY TICE. In my opinion, this is suitable for GDP.
                  Time will tell....
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 12 July 2016 23: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: SCHWERIN
                    It's nice to communicate with a well-read person.

                    Like me. hi
                    Quote: SCHWERIN
                    About to endure. I'll be honest. I don't want a war

                    And who wants it? But tell me, when NATO is pulling its missile defense systems to our borders, when small European countries are being pitted against us, when Obama designates us as one of the main global threats ... is this all out of great peace?
                    Quote: SCHWERIN
                    So, VVP knows firsthand what war and blockade are. And he is trying to peacefully resolve the situation and not lose face. It's my opinion.

                    I suppose there is a reason for this, but they don't hear him.
                    And what about 30 million Russians outside the Russian Federation? What to do with Russians in the Baltic states, Ukraine, and so on?
                    It would be interesting to hear what will happen next when the NATO missile defense system closes up, zeroing our nuclear arsenal. And sneezing at our statements and protests, the missile defense system is not removed, but only increased.
                    1. SCHWERIN
                      SCHWERIN 13 July 2016 08: 23
                      +1
                      Do you think that the West is such that they will cross the threshold and force the Russian Federation to respond with nuclear weapons !?
                      Look - North Korea. A dozen years ago, had a cardboard rocket with YBG? You can believe it, you can not.
                      The staffs were whining, they turned to the UN. Where are the actions? Where is the STORM IN A GLASS OF WATER? N I CH E G O! What are Korea and the United States?
                      They were afraid. They were afraid that the regime would launch this rocket with the roof down.
                      They live very well and are afraid of war. Why, after nuclear war, millions and billions in bunkers? You won't go to Germany and pat Merkel on the bottom, you won't meet Pedro Shokoladny.
                      If they have a panic with refugees outside of the war, then what about the explosion in the center of Europe of a single nuclear-powered missile launched from Iskander?
                      There is no cellular connection, ATMs do not work. There is no light, water in apartments and houses. Hundreds of sick and wounded. Transport does not work. You can list further.
                      The Western authorities are well aware of this. And most likely they will not fight. Now there is a war of nerves.
                      I have a cat. He's a fighter. Constantly fights with village cats. Here they stand opposite each other and scream in a heart-rending voice. Someone's nerves can not stand it, runs away. So now we have.
                      But seriously, we are simply being dragged into the arms race; spending on the army is growing, like a vacuum cleaner it pulls in millions of young people to serve, not work, etc., etc.
                      Then our propaganda escalates. You know, I live at the Finnish border. Those. I can watch their TV. However, after the Finns introduced sanctions against us, I stopped watching them.
                      But recently it turned on again. So there is peace and quiet. They talk about construction, nature, etc. There is no military rhetoric.
                      Look at ukrov. What should they attack the Crimea? They say that their territory. They do not regret their people, how many young people were put in the cauldrons. But do not climb!
                      Westerners are very pragmatic. The States, after the accession of the Baltic States to Russia, did not recognize this fact. And they waited 70 years. And we got it.
                      Who prevented us in the 90s from not recognizing the belonging of Crimea to Ukraine? No one.
                      The ruling stratum of the Russian Federation boasted like a merchant, boasted of Mercedes, mistresses, villas. He did not deal with the country. It's a little better now.
            2. your1970
              your1970 12 July 2016 22: 22
              +2
              "in order for us to understand that this garish lad with all his gop company is time to clean up," - two questions: 1) how? , 2) what to do with it then?
              First, what do you suggest: landing on Kiev, a tank raid, nuclear weapons across Kiev, DRG ??
              on the second, they filled up the best option-ALL (Rada, the President, the General Staff, the oligarchs, the leaders of ALL parties) and ??? !! where about 50% of the population really thinks that we have invaded Donbass (choosing the most beggar according to statistics) ..Now imagine, they get up, and then there is such news, and then what should we do in a country that will ALL AGAINST us ?? build concentration camps and poison them with gas? Sprinkle with dust? Re-educate?
              ZY a friend has a sister there, says that the Russian Federation is invaders and even though you have a stake on her head, please her, to no purpose ...
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 July 2016 22: 43
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                First, what do you suggest: landing on Kiev, a tank raid, nuclear weapons across Kiev, DRG ??

                And you propose not to do anything and watch how veterans are beaten every year on May 9, how people are burned in Odessa, how streets are renamed to openly fascist, how pregnant girls are raped in Donbass? Let's not do anything, it’s easier. And then we will get the second year 2008 with the invasion of Rostov, Crimea and so on ... it will not decrease from these stumped ones, and Washington will help and even pull a couple of AUG to our shores.
                What are our special services for which they receive a salary and are called special services?
                And in war, that method is good, which brings either victory or a positive result. Yanukovych was somehow pulled out of that swamp, in spite of Kiev, NATO and Europe ...
              2. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 July 2016 23: 01
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                on the second, they filled up the best option-ALL (Rada, the president, the General Staff, the oligarchs, the leaders of ALL parties) and ??? !! there, about 50% of the population really thinks that we have invaded Donbass (choosing the most beggar according to statistics)

                If these figures are valid, it means that we are shamelessly losing the information war, although your figures are very doubtful.
                And what forgive us to do, order? Wait and gain strength? Or maybe they will continue to retreat somewhere beyond the Urals or to the Taiga to gain strength?
                Or are you waiting for the moment when NATO missile defense launchers will be visible from the windows of your house?
                We will wait for 2008, when these stoned ones climb into the Crimea, Rostov, etc., they will not lose weight ... and the mattresses will bring a couple of AUG to our shores at this time.
                And then what will you do?
                The adversary does not give us time, squeezing the ring more and more. And if you do not understand this, then you are blind and naive.
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 12 July 2016 20: 44
            +2
            Quote: Alekseev
            And so that the children of the "elite" study and live in Russia, and the capital was kept in Russia.

            Or maybe it's time to "lower" these "elites"? Which of them "earned" their capital with their hump? You mentioned Lenin, and so: first of all it is worth remembering what you did with the snickering "elite" back then! They broke a lot of firewood then .. well, that's why History exists, to learn from the mistakes of the past, and not to repeat! wink
        3. Foxmara
          Foxmara 12 July 2016 18: 28
          +3
          Yes, I just want to clarify - do we have the resources to conduct a full-scale and long-term war? How much ammunition do we have in reserve, what is the resource in the engine hours of the equipment? When the operation in Syria began, the military-industrial complex began to work in 3 shifts. On one front.
          And Turkey ... We need Turkey, only without Erdogan.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 July 2016 18: 36
            +3
            Quote: Foxmara
            Yes, I just want to clarify - do we have the resources to conduct a full-scale and long-term war?

            With whom? With Turkey? And who is going to fight her on a full scale then? It was not for nothing that I mentioned the Iskanders. But the Macedonians are also capable of hitting missiles with small nuclear warheads. At the same time, they still cannot intercept a missile. And the Turks all know this.
            Quote: Foxmara
            And Turkey ... We need Turkey, only without Erdogan.

            Erdogan ... Erdogan ... Don't we need the pilot who shot down our bomber? Not tired of wiping yourself off and writing posts about tomatoes?
            We are not given time and if we do not show our fangs now, all our small victories before that will go to dust.
            1. your1970
              your1970 12 July 2016 22: 25
              0
              "missiles with a small nuclear warhead" - that is. It's not a pity to overfill the Black Sea water area? We'll bomb Turkey, but how can we live later?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 12 July 2016 22: 49
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                "missiles with a small nuclear warhead" - that is. It's not a pity to overfill the Black Sea water area? We'll bomb Turkey, but how can we live later?

                You yourself say that we don't have the strength for a full-scale war ...
                I'm not talking about hammering Iskanders with nuclear warheads at the Turks ... I'm talking about placing Iskanders on the border of Armenia with Turkey and clearly identify (not in a whisper) - these complexes are in readiness number one, stuffed with nuclear warheads with a specific And in the event of any hostile attacks from Turkey, the missiles will go to the targets.
        4. kepmor
          kepmor 12 July 2016 18: 31
          +2
          Good day Nexus!
          I am always glad for your posts on the forum!
          But now you provoyli yourself - to you, deeply respected by me, complete respect and solidarity!
          More succinctly and you can not say .... Thank you!
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 July 2016 18: 39
            +2
            Quote: kepmor
            Good day Nexus!

            Good evening to you. hi Thank you. It's already boiling.
            1. masiya
              masiya 12 July 2016 20: 00
              0
              Cool gave !!!
            2. Sergey S.
              Sergey S. 12 July 2016 21: 50
              +1
              Quote: NEXUS
              It's already boiling.

              This is the truth.

              Emotionally I agree with the most dashing proposals to punish enemies and neutralize threats.
              But there is truth also among those who express the idea that we do not have too much strength.
              And I agree with that.

              Pyrrhic victory does not suit us.
              In civilizational terms, this will set aside the camp and the people, in comparison with those who look calmly from the outside (for example, China).
              Victory at any cost, this is when there is no other way.

              For this reason, I agree in almost everything with the actions of V.V. Putin in foreign policy. Here are just domestic politics - strange and mysterious.

              As for military retaliation, it is already in the fact that now everyone knows that if something happens, Tu-22M3 or white swans will fly in ... and no assurances from the American authorities that Russia is neutralized, isolated, torn apart, ... won't help.

              I am sure that the media do not know everything, and the official bodies do not report everything.
              I see one thing, our armed forces spend on combat training wisely and profitably.

              In general, I would like to return to the 1970s and organize an alternative version of the development of the USSR.
              And then peaceful Soviet combines and tractors would be harvesting corn in the fields of Ohayshchina.
        5. activator
          activator 12 July 2016 19: 37
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          either with regards to Ukraine, then I think it's time to put things in order in this circus, tough and fast. It is impossible to imagine that an anti-American regime will sit in Mexico and mattresses will be quietly put up with it. So Ukraine for us is the same territory of our interests as Mexico is for the United States.

          A mailing list comes to the mail from Mr. Guilbeau, people ask he answers. The famous character himself developed the SHEL course (school of effective leaders) is not cheap, but it is interesting to read. So here a question came to him about Ukraine.
          ** The Kremlin pays in various forms to the Kiev junta about $ 30 billion a year (subsidies, free fuel supplies, additional capitalization of banks, etc.) for it to portray the “Edyna Ukryna”, so much needed by the Kremlin **,. . and what is the further plan. I like the fact that the Kremlin wanted to show its people how bad life is after the Maidan. Then what for this subsidy, etc. thank.

          Victor

          The Kremlin's plan is simple: to do everything that the owners from Washington and Brussels order, but at the same time to avoid dividing the country and confiscating property in conditions when the crisis phenomena between the owners (issuers of money for which the Kremlin kids work) make them look for, at whose expense to solve growing contradictions. Therefore, the only goal of the Kremlin's policy on second-hand use is to strictly fulfill the directives of the European owners on the uninterrupted supply of gas. If, under the previous regime of Ukraine, the Kremlin paid tribute to the Ukronazis at 5-10 billion dollars annually through various schemes, then after the arrival of the Kiev junta and surrender to its blackmail, it pays tribute under various schemes on average $ 30 billion per year (free deliveries energy, transit fees, security fees, additional capitalization of the branches of Russian banks and second-hand enterprises, etc.). There is no alternative to this, since the junta does not agree to provide transit of Russian gas for less money due to the scarcity of the used economy.

          At the same time, gas supplies to the EU are carried out by the Russian Federation below the cost price, that is, at a loss to the country. Gazprom has long been a technical bankrupt, and keeps afloat only thanks to soft loans, tax breaks and direct subsidies from the population of the Russian Federation. At the same time, in order to release the necessary volumes of gas due to a drop in production, the domestic chemical industry was left without raw materials and destroyed, the products of which were sold at a profit for the country.

          The further plan remains the same: to pay tribute to the owners and at the same time their Kiev sixes at any cost, in the hope of avoiding confiscation of their capital in their banks.

          The above has long been a commonplace of all Russian analysts. Another thing is that no one fully understands the conditions under which this policy is being implemented. We will talk about these difficult conditions at a seminar on September 24-25 in Moscow
          1. activator
            activator 12 July 2016 19: 40
            -2
            These are the thoughts that roam Russia.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 12 July 2016 19: 44
              +5
              Quote: activator
              These are the thoughts that roam Russia.

              Forgive me, but these are not thoughts, but home brew ... that's why it wanders. Read Yavlinsky, there are even more pearls.
              And if what was scribbled here were at least a hundredth true, there would be no sanctions, no Ukraine, no Syria ...
              1. activator
                activator 12 July 2016 20: 13
                -1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: activator
                These are the thoughts that roam Russia.

                Forgive me, but these are not thoughts, but home brew ... that's why it wanders. Read Yavlinsky, there are even more pearls.
                And if what was scribbled here were at least a hundredth true, there would be no sanctions, no Ukraine, no Syria ...

                Come on, Yavlinsky told him, as they say, the State Department himself told him, but Gilbeau sometimes says sensible things, more often Russophobic, well, this is understandable the surname obliges, but this is like a puzzle from another set, it is not clear what to do with it. But let's just say that this version takes place And now I'm wondering what is the reason for this. Because most likely this Victor is not the only one who thinks so.
        6. masiya
          masiya 12 July 2016 19: 54
          0
          Well said, I agree with everything completely, just what we are discussing here, unfortunately, at the top, are not taken into account.
        7. avia1991
          avia1991 12 July 2016 19: 57
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          How long will hostile actions towards our soldiers, and indeed the Russian people in general, remain unpunished without a target?
          Maybe it's time to finally do something with Ukraine? A fascist regime has been nurtured by our side, which clearly and understandably declares that Russia is an ENEMY! So maybe it's time to start calling things by their proper names and start acting accordingly?

          Well, well .. Solovyov has already begun, in his "Sunday Evening". The impression is that the media have been given a command to slowly prepare public opinion.
          Well WOULD it be so. However, as long as the "group of like-minded people" that is in power will remain in their places, your questions will be answered with a "NOT" particle: NOT time, NOT to do, NOT to react, etc. hi
          It seems that the only department ready to react immediately will be the Russian Guard. WHAT EXACTLY will they react to? Guess wink
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 12 July 2016 20: 06
            +2
            Quote: avia1991
            Well WOULD it be so. However, as long as the "group of like-minded people" that is in power will remain in their places, your questions will be answered with a "NOT" particle: NOT time, NOT to do, NOT to react, etc.

            I ask these questions not to them, but to you and all those who read this. You can treat the government and VVP personally as you like, but there is such a thing as the formation of public opinion and national pride.
            Sorry for the banal comparison, but the bear gets away from the conflict while there is a possibility. But the bear is not just called the master of Taiga. Squeeze him into a corner and he will not seek compromises. And don't care that you have a gun.
            It is precisely because the bear is aware of its strength that it is the Master of the Taiga, and it is definitely not possible to turn into a ferret or a gopher when encroaching on its own, for the very reason that this is its territory and its interests.
        8. Starik72
          Starik72 12 July 2016 21: 14
          +1
          NEXUS! Oh, how I agree with you! Tired of these spitting and screeching mongrels pouring mud on RUSSIA = USSR, and the whole RUSSIAN PEOPLE !!!
        9. Konvestor
          Konvestor 12 July 2016 23: 00
          +1
          Erdogan's apologies are discussed by Lavrenty Avgustovich and Shurka
          https://youtu.be/f9lkpFOnhqY
        10. ty60
          ty60 12 July 2016 23: 36
          0
          Crimea was returned. Alaska is unlikely to ask for us. The smokers are already ours. Will we demand Port Arthur?
        11. You Vlad
          You Vlad 12 July 2016 23: 57
          +1
          It is necessary to start with our elite 90% of which play for the wrong team! They are all smeared in the collapse of the USSR, who with blood who money! They do not benefit from a strong Russia because they will be asked!
        12. not main
          not main 13 July 2016 00: 27
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Maybe it's time to pull the rope that leads to the people and organizations that stingers put the ISIS members, after which a helicopter with our pilots was shot down and "clean up" this abomination, without looking back at Europe and Washington?

          I totally agree! But where did you see the "stinger"? There is no trace of a rocket, most likely an accidental hit of a projectile in the steering or intermediate gear!
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2016 00: 29
            +1
            Quote: non-primary
            But where did you see the "stinger"?

            Do you have doubts about whose production these MANPADS are?
        13. tumen533
          tumen533 13 July 2016 07: 23
          +1
          Totally agree with you! The strength and firmness of convictions have always been respected in this world. Why is Russia afraid to show its will and respect for its citizens? Probably ours; rulers; there is neither one nor the other!
        14. AllXVahhaB
          AllXVahhaB 13 July 2016 08: 39
          0
          And for what the pilot is judged ??? The officer fulfills the order - this is his job and the essence !!! Then demand the extradition of Erogan! Delirium is shorter ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 July 2016 08: 50
            +2
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            And for what the pilot is judged ??? The officer fulfills the order - this is his job and the essence !!! Then demand the extradition of Erogan! Delirium is shorter ...

            No, dear, not nonsense. The Turkish pilot shot down our bomber not over Turkey and I don't care whose order he was carrying out. For the Turks, he "performed the task", but for us he killed our soldiers, despite the fact that we are NOT IN A WAR WITH TURKEY. I am clear conveyed to you a thought I hope?
        15. faridg7
          faridg7 13 July 2016 12: 36
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          The only conversation that should be held is the requirements for the issuance of a Turkish pilot.

          Let's punish the switchman. In my opinion, the pilot is only a disciplined performer. It is necessary to demand access to the body of the one who gave the order to shoot down, the rest should be tried for complicity. Utopia is that you will have to find access to the carcasses of Erdogan, Stoltenberg, Breedlove. after all, it was the collective "creativity" of the Turks and Nata. but otherwise agree with you.
        16. Shamsik
          Shamsik 13 July 2016 14: 54
          0
          RIGHT, TIME !!!
        17. Valiich
          Valiich 13 July 2016 22: 05
          0
          Everything is correct! And a lot is being done! Do not rush and quickly!
      2. ashot1973
        ashot1973 12 July 2016 20: 27
        +1
        I have the honor. soldier
      3. zheka
        zheka 14 July 2016 12: 45
        0
        Whoever came to us with a sword must die by the sword, and not by sanctions !!!!
    2. Snake AAA
      Snake AAA 12 July 2016 16: 24
      +7
      I’m afraid that the result is important in this matter, and the route can not be spoken out of secrecy, and the answer should be tough !!!
      1. 11 black
        11 black 12 July 2016 16: 33
        +2
        Quote: Serpent AAA
        I’m afraid that the result is important in this matter, and the route can not be spoken out of secrecy, and the answer should be tough !!!

        Already told:
        A large military camp of the Islamic State group, ammunition depots and armored vehicles were destroyed as a result of Russian Tu-22M3 air strikes in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.

        "The strike destroyed a large field camp of militants, three ammunition and weapons depots, three tanks, four infantry fighting vehicles, eight vehicles equipped with large-caliber machine guns, as well as a large number of enemy manpower," the statement said.

        RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/syria/20160712/1464620681.html#ixzz4ECWzwdlN
        1. archipelaggulag
          archipelaggulag 12 July 2016 17: 24
          +4
          Quote: 11 black

          Already told:
          A large military camp of the Islamic State group, ammunition depots and armored vehicles were destroyed as a result of Russian Tu-22M3 air strikes in Syria, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement.

          I would like at least some confirmation of the statement of the Ministry of Defense, otherwise I hope many remember the very first video from the Ministry of Defense, which also told about the destruction of the headquarters and warehouse ...
          1. Navigator Basov
            Navigator Basov 13 July 2016 03: 14
            0
            Headquarters and focal point. And what, the video does not show what hit? Well, what was destroyed in this case, you could only know either having the same intelligence that the military possessed, or being the one who was bombed there. Which one will you be from?
            1. archipelaggulag
              archipelaggulag 13 July 2016 07: 56
              0
              Quote: Bass Navigator
              Well, what was destroyed in this case, you could only know either having the same intelligence that the military possessed, or being the one who was bombed there.

              And also from the statements of the press service of the Ministry of Defense. Haven't you read it?
              Quote: Bass Navigator
              And what, you can't see from the video that you hit?

              I'll tell you more: not only is it not clear that they were hit, but for some reason this object was bombed two more times (on the night of September 30 to October 1 and October 3). If you got it the first time, do not tell me the version for what it was done?
              Here is a video of the second airstrike. Also hit?
              Quote: Bass Navigator
              What will you be from?

              I am one of people with good eyesight and common sense. And you?
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 12 July 2016 17: 25
        +8
        Good but not enough.
        Immediately I warn you the questions "what do you think is enough?"
        It will be enough when ISIS surrenders unconditionally, and the ringleaders are taken to Nuremberg, condemned there, and hanged. A trip to Nuremberg can be replaced by a trip to any other place, and even completely canceled. In principle, the court can also, although not desirable, be canceled. But hanging can not be canceled in any way, and even a thread like a stake cannot be replaced with something. According to Islamic beliefs, the soul comes out of the throat with the last breath, and if the throat is pinched, then you have to leave from the opposite side. After that, the soul, soiled with a certain substance, does not dare to appear before Allah and goes straight to these horned and tailed hurias.
        amamamamamamamamam
        1. marshes
          marshes 12 July 2016 17: 34
          0
          Quote: Nagan
          After that, the soul, soiled with a certain substance, does not dare to appear before Allah and goes straight to these horned and tailed hurias.

          This absolutely does not give a damn what and how the soul, the Salafis, and what will happen to the body after death, they don’t hold on to the mortal remains. That the Christians, Jews and Muslims of liberal madhhabs, like a pancake forgot, religion was in Persia. They think that the Almighty if what molecules will collect, so they are going to live not in this world.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 12 July 2016 17: 49
            +2
            Quote: marshes
            as a pancake forgot-religion was in Persia.

            If BC, then Zoroastrianism.
            1. marshes
              marshes 12 July 2016 17: 53
              +1
              Quote: V.ic
              If BC, then Zoroastrianism.

              Not ... the people are still alive, they still live in Armenia, Iran and Russia, although it is possible that they leave their remains in the towers for the vultures, what is there in Tibet.
              And I heard so years ago ... on Russian TV, Yezidis?
            2. Revolver
              Revolver 12 July 2016 17: 58
              +2
              Quote: V.ic
              Quote: marshes
              as a pancake forgot-religion was in Persia.

              If BC, then Zoroastrianism.
              And after R.Kh. also. But the coming of Islam could not stand it and was pushed to the periphery. Small communities still exist, but they are in decline and are slowly dying out.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 12 July 2016 17: 52
            +4
            Quote: marshes
            This absolutely does not care what and how the soul will go out

            I do not know. I read in the memoirs of Afghan veterans, and different, something like this. Caught spooks on threats of massacre and even red-hot iron only shouted their "Allah Akbar", and even the threat to put them against the wall did not work. But as soon as they showed the rope, they immediately began to sing like a cock and answer all the questions. Painfully they did not want to go to hell.
            1. marshes
              marshes 12 July 2016 18: 07
              +1
              Quote: Nagan
              I do not know. I read in the memoirs of Afghan veterans, and different, something like this. Caught spooks on threats of massacre and even red-hot iron only shouted their "Allah Akbar", and even the threat to put them against the wall did not work. But as soon as they showed the rope, they immediately began to sing like a cock and answer all the questions. Painfully they did not want to go to hell.

              So this is the Taliban and not an Islamic international preaching Salafism.
              The Taliban are Sunnis, the madhhab has forgotten to rummage around in the internet at the same time. At the same time, there are nationalists. Who there are mainly Pashtun tribal zones.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 12 July 2016 18: 21
                0
                Quote: marshes
                So this is the Taliban and not an Islamic international preaching Salafism.

                Well, you know better, Islam is not alien to you, but from the outside it seems that these are the same eggs, only in profile. However, many Christians and Jews are lumped together, and from within they themselves know who belongs to which trend.
                hi
                1. marshes
                  marshes 12 July 2016 18: 43
                  0
                  Quote: Nagan
                  Islam is no stranger to you

                  Yes, and Christianity with Judaism. smile
                  Quote: Nagan
                  and the Jews are lumped together, and from within they themselves know who belongs to which trend.

                  Yes, I am aware of it, I was so interested.
                2. AllXVahhaB
                  AllXVahhaB 13 July 2016 09: 14
                  0
                  Quote: Nagan
                  Christians and Jews are lumped together

                  Yes, even without Jews ... Catholics, Orthodox Christians and all sorts of Protestants there - a VERY big difference !!! Religious wars in Europe were fought from scratch? And if you don’t understand theological nuances, it’s better not to poke your nose into the "Kalashny row" ... Or enlighten yourself!
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 12 July 2016 20: 50
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              as soon as they showed the rope, they immediately began to sing like a cock and answer all the questions. Painfully they did not want to go to hell.

              Well .. it wasn't quite that easy. But - really.
        2. rabbi's pais
          rabbi's pais 12 July 2016 18: 13
          +1
          Quote: Nagan
          It will be enough when ISIS surrenders unconditionally, and the ringleaders are taken to Nuremberg, condemned there, and hanged.

          Mr. Nagant in Nuremberg will also have to attend the entire top of the United States. These nits should be hung next to the Islamist devils. And it is better to give to the doctors for study. They, at least for scientific purposes, will cut human trash into parts.
        3. NEXUS
          NEXUS 12 July 2016 18: 26
          +2
          Quote: Nagan
          It will be enough when ISIS surrenders unconditionally,

          ISIS has no geographical borders. There will be no fireworks in Moscow after the capture of RAKKI, as after the capture of Berlin. This abomination does not know what borders and nationality it has. ISIS is not an organization in fact, but a phenomenon that infects people like a hydra. breeds more heads.
          Quote: Nagan
          the leaders will be taken to Nuremberg, where they will be convicted and hanged.

          There will be no Newrberg. One killed leader is replaced by another. This is not fascist Germany, with clear faces and geolocation. The only answer is to shoot the leaders without trial, regardless of their location.
          Quote: Nagan
          According to Islamic beliefs, the soul comes out of the throat with the last breath, and if the throat is pinched, then you have to leave from the opposite side. After that, the soul, soiled with a certain substance, does not dare to appear before Allah and goes straight to these horned and tailed hurias.

          Do not decide for God or Allah where to send this abomination. What these pseudo believers say about the throat, substance, etc. is only their faith and opinion. And there is God's judgment, in which all these opinions and postulates are worthless. And as if These non-humans were not killed, they have only one way to the "frying pan", since nobody canceled the commandments.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 13 July 2016 00: 04
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            There will be no fireworks in Moscow after the capture of RAKKI, as after the capture of Berlin.

            Sure. Comparing Raqqa to Berlin is like comparing winning a backyard match to winning the Champions Cup final.

            Quote: NEXUS
            What these pseudo believers say about the throat, substance, etc. is only their faith and opinion. And there is God's judgment
            And it was also said "everyone will be rewarded according to his faith"... Therefore, it is important that when they die, they know that they have a direct road to hell.
        4. excomandante
          excomandante 13 July 2016 06: 15
          +1
          It is definitely not necessary to go to Nuremberg - there they will be acquitted or placed for a symbolic period in comfortable cells. It is better to give them out to the eastern peoples who have suffered from their evil wars)))
      3. creak
        creak 12 July 2016 17: 26
        +2
        Quote: Serpent AAA
        I'm afraid that the result is important in this matter, and the route can not be said because of secrecy

        The truth about this secret (flight corridors and other details) was warned in advance by representatives of the international coalition (the United States and others like them) - so what is the secret in this case and from whom? ... what
    3. marshes
      marshes 12 July 2016 16: 26
      +3
      Quote: Smoked
      The route is interesting and whether there is Turkey in it.

      Unlikely.
      RF, Caspian Sea, Iran, Iraq, Syria.
      1. FID
        FID 12 July 2016 16: 36
        +6
        More precisely, Mozdok - further point by point ...
        1. Kamchatsky
          Kamchatsky 14 July 2016 13: 27
          0
          Above us passed, they could be seen.
    4. sgazeev
      sgazeev 12 July 2016 16: 34
      0
      Quote: Smoked
      The route is interesting and whether there is Turkey in it.

      Stupid question. belay Turkey is not there, definitely.
    5. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 12 July 2016 16: 38
      +6
      For our guys! Into the dust of this evil.
      1. Khariton
        Khariton 12 July 2016 16: 58
        +1
        Here is retribution ..! For our eternal memory to the peasants who fulfilled their duty with honor ...
    6. anfil
      anfil 12 July 2016 17: 27
      +1
      It is unlikely, most likely through Iran-Iraq if they took off from Engels.
    7. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 12 July 2016 17: 30
      +3
      I wonder how many thugs left after the amers were informed about the route and the time of flight.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 12 July 2016 18: 08
        0
        Why were they informed at all ?? Are they friends with us ?? Maybe it was their special forces officer who shot down our helicopter, how do we know ...
    8. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 July 2016 18: 29
      -2
      now India will want even more to get our "Backfire-C" ("counter fell" in NATO) ...
    9. crazyrom
      crazyrom 12 July 2016 20: 25
      0
      Turkey is not, there is Iran and Iraq.
  2. cniza
    cniza 12 July 2016 16: 21
    +12
    Let them know that no one will get away from retaliation and that it is not necessary to shoot down our vehicles and kill our people.
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 12 July 2016 16: 29
      +4
      What all? All retribution?
      Nooo. It is necessary to push well, otherwise the funeral of our children can be repeated again and again.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 12 July 2016 18: 07
        +1
        Quote: hirurg
        What all? All retribution?
        Nooo. It is necessary to push well, otherwise the funeral of our children can be repeated again and again.


        It’s interesting to me that it was known that the shaitans were clustered in that area. Until MI-25 was shot down, no attacks were made, only then strategic aviation was sent; it was impossible before, if they were there, as in the Moscow market? Something doesn’t like this sluggish phase, if we have already declared war on terrorists, they should be soaked under every snag and in every outhouse, and not then deal with retaliation.
        1. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 12 July 2016 18: 17
          0
          They look at America, and then a pretext appeared - revenge, otherwise why did they warn the enemy coalition ...
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 12 July 2016 18: 49
          +2
          So, not only there are a handful. But before, everything was pulled by the weakened group of Hmemim + helicopters.

          And on Khmemim there is a queue of applications, if anything, because they are needed everywhere, in Aleppo, Latakia, in Homs (there are still battles for deposits), in Hama and near Palmyra.

          Because of this, in many respects, babakhs of all stripes feel like they were in 2014. They ride in columns on the roads during the day, they crowd calmly before attacks and, in general, do not deny themselves anything. That is, the current activity of the Air Force + Air Force of the SAR forces is approximately equal to the Air Force of the SAR in 2014.

          For example, a escort of blacks from the collapsed Anbar (Iraq) came out (although part of the Iraqis gouged, but in Syria there was no one to take it).
  3. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 12 July 2016 16: 21
    +12
    Well, the Old Testament eye for an eye has not yet been canceled.
    1. Velizariy
      Velizariy 12 July 2016 16: 30
      -8
      You are more than 2000 years behind life. Abolished the Old Testament "eye for an eye" ...
      1. uskrabut
        uskrabut 12 July 2016 16: 35
        +1
        propose to turn your cheek? I do not think that this will affect the barmaley for the better and they will become kinder. so - an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, and an eye and a tooth in addition
      2. Rom14
        Rom14 12 July 2016 16: 53
        +3
        Canceled, now 1000 for one and nothing else., Destroy by all means and forces. Otherwise, you will wear a burqa.
        1. Velizariy
          Velizariy 12 July 2016 16: 59
          +2
          Those who minus for the statement of fact will probably go to knock out the eye of the barmale and pull out the tooth)) yes? Take on more hats. Or just slogans to throw harassment?
          War is not waged by eye for an eye. Or is it just necessary to wait for the death of our soldier and only then knock out a thousand eyes from the adversaries? If it is possible to knock out, why not knock out before the death of your soldier?
      3. AllXVahhaB
        AllXVahhaB 13 July 2016 09: 17
        0
        Quote: Velizariy
        You are more than 2000 years behind life. Abolished the Old Testament "eye for an eye" ...

        You don't lag behind, you just don't understand! This was canceled in the Gospel, but for the Jews - purple! They live according to the old testament - so the ancestors did not cancel anything !!!
  4. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 12 July 2016 16: 22
    +15
    Tu-22M3 worked on the militants in Syria
    In the ashes of nits, so that there is no wet place!
    1. Sashka
      Sashka 12 July 2016 17: 49
      +4
      I'm wondering if it was necessary for "Retribution" to drive Carcasses ?! Couldn't it be possible to work out high-explosive fragmentation from Sushki ?! Or at the same time demonstrated their capabilities? Or were there bombs that Sushki won't raise ?! Or something else ... What's the point ?! Knowledgeable people, please enlighten! Thanks!
      Good day!
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 12 July 2016 18: 04
        0
        If my memory serves me, Carcasses have more bomb load.
        1. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 12 July 2016 18: 19
          +3
          Could and from the dryers, for several times, but as always you need a show. Oddly enough, the calibers were not used ...
        2. donavi49
          donavi49 12 July 2016 18: 53
          +4
          No, Carcasses are dragged by 12 FABs. A couple of Ducklings from Khmemim will bring even more. Plus, the Tu-22 has a problem with the NK-25 - they have a small resource (then it was not a problem), and the last engine was released in 95. They are no longer released.
          1. Stirbjorn
            Stirbjorn 12 July 2016 19: 24
            +2
            There are many high-explosive fragmentation bombs there, until they fly from Russia to Syria, all the bearded men in pickups will be washed off. In general, it is strange - from the news it turns out that around the long ago recaptured Palmyra, across the deserts, tanks and BMPs of bearded men are dissecting ?! Why weren't they destroyed earlier then? had to wait until our turntable was shot down ?!
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 12 July 2016 19: 47
              +3
              So long ago. They, initially, did not go far from the city and conducted a mobile defense. And, after stopping the offensive on Tabka, the black part of the forces threw on the release of Manbij and advanced quite strongly. Part of the forces, however, was thrown to Palmyra and there the Syrian army immediately backed away (they surrendered the forward positions, then 11 blocks and positions on the heights + Elevator, now the Elevator has been recaptured / there are battles in it, depending on the source of the news).

              For example, Anna's report from the helicopter crash site, where the militia tells (that day the blacks knocked out the army, some surrounded them, from a height and rolled out 3 tanks - the turntables were working on them, as a result, the skyscraper was returned, 1 black tank was knocked out - it stands on neutral strip).
            2. Garris199
              Garris199 14 July 2016 00: 44
              0
              They fought something. Prpvda not the fact that this is Carcasses, but still nice.
          2. Lucy
            Lucy 12 July 2016 23: 58
            +1
            donavi49 (1) UA Today, 18:53 ↑
            No, Carcasses are dragged by 12 FABs.


            A bit more. A little less than 70!
      2. ty60
        ty60 12 July 2016 23: 56
        0
        A large volume of cast iron with the accuracy of hitting guided bombs. Compare the carrying capacity of Drying and Tu22M3 - estimate how many Dryers you need ...
  5. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 12 July 2016 16: 23
    +11
    Send more barmaley to hell! Good luck in your work! To continue to shake hands when aiming at the Russian Aerospace Forces !! am
  6. Engineer
    Engineer 12 July 2016 16: 31
    +6
    Little ... I hope this is only the first phase of "Retribution"
  7. brelok
    brelok 12 July 2016 16: 33
    +2
    I wonder how many tons of gifts were dumped?
    1. FID
      FID 12 July 2016 16: 57
      +8
      Max bombing - 24 tons, when flying to Syria - 12 tons ...
  8. Naval
    Naval 12 July 2016 16: 33
    +8
    Any wickedness must know, you cannot kill Russians with impunity.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 12 July 2016 18: 21
      +3
      The Turks killed, and now the tourist flow is higher than before!
  9. pigkiller
    pigkiller 12 July 2016 16: 34
    +10
    For the barmaleev, the severed head of the commander of the militants who shot down the turntable would have been more revealing.
    In Lebanon and Yemen, this targeted method of communication with the barmaley was effective. IMHO
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 12 July 2016 16: 50
      0
      Quote: pigkiller
      For barmaley it would be more indicative of the severed head of the commander of the militants who shot down the turntables

      it will not work here, for the majority of them have a completely atrophied sense of self-preservation and fear ... and from there a large number of suicide bombers ...
      1. pigkiller
        pigkiller 12 July 2016 17: 01
        0
        So it is so. But bombing over areas in the desert is all the more ineffective. Moreover, the Barmaley head lives very satisfyingly and does not seek to become shahids.
  10. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 12 July 2016 16: 36
    0
    Just a question, isn't it expensive to drive them there ???
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 12 July 2016 17: 07
      +6
      certainly not cheap., but taking into account the practice of bombing exercises in unfamiliar terrain for hidden targets, invaluable combat experience.
    2. kryuger.mark
      kryuger.mark 12 July 2016 17: 08
      +2
      Well, they would have bombed the equipment at the ranges, as well as in combat conditions, as promised.
  11. Sergey39
    Sergey39 12 July 2016 16: 42
    +4
    It's time to use vacuum bombs.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 12 July 2016 18: 00
      0
      ODAB-500 was used repeatedly. It's time for dad-all-bombs)))
  12. Yugra
    Yugra 12 July 2016 16: 44
    +1
    In memory of the fallen helicopter pilots, the bearded clowns are in the dust ...
  13. gg.na
    gg.na 12 July 2016 16: 46
    +1
    The strike destroyed a large field camp of militants, three warehouses of ammunition and weapons, three tanks, four infantry fighting vehicles, eight vehicles equipped with large-caliber machine guns, as well as a large number of enemy manpower

    Ta-da-dada-a-aamm !!! Fanfare !!! I am very glad good Well done good well done! good !!! It would be necessary to add at least 3-4 times with exactly the same success or even more !!! yes !!! Geeks will know how to shoot down our guys !!! There is no place for ISIS geeks on earth among people am wet without stopping for a minute !!! am
  14. AlexTires
    AlexTires 12 July 2016 16: 47
    +5
    It was clear that it was impossible to leave the barmeals unpunished, but still, since you have to use DBA, why not use them all the time for such large purposes, leaving tactical aviation to finish off? it’s clear that it’s unprofitable for the budget, but declaring war on terrorists and using the minimum possible forces is, in my opinion, not entirely logical ....
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 12 July 2016 20: 10
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      It was clear that it was impossible to leave the barmeals unpunished, but still, since you have to use DBA, why not use them all the time for such large purposes, leaving tactical aviation to finish off? it’s clear that it’s unprofitable for the budget, but declaring war on terrorists and using the minimum possible forces is, in my opinion, not entirely logical ....


      Yes, this is generally fucking illogical! Instead of driving the shaitans out to Iraq-Turkey-Jordan, to their "homeland", something incomprehensible began, moderate-immoderate, peace-respectful ... Churchill would have told Stalin about moderate fascists, now there would be an English Autonomous Okrug as part of Russia. These flirting with mattresses will not lead to good, they wanted to spit on us, they need to destroy us at any cost. And we are with some kind of nafig_ concerns. What is it?
  15. Stabilization
    Stabilization 12 July 2016 16: 48
    0
    It is interesting what they worked with.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 12 July 2016 16: 50
    +1
    Get it, barmaley, and remember that revenge will find you.
  17. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 12 July 2016 16: 51
    +1
    Quote: Velizariy
    You are more than 2000 years behind life. Abolished the Old Testament "eye for an eye" ...

    But no one canceled on the hill or in the teeth!
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 12 July 2016 20: 46
      +4
      Quote: avg-mgn
      But no one canceled on the hill or in the teeth!

      Something like this?
  18. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 12 July 2016 16: 53
    +1
    We develop a conditioned reflex in the barmaleev - it hurts to touch Russia
  19. Lightpower
    Lightpower 12 July 2016 16: 54
    +10
    It is very interesting why a large camp of militants fell under the distribution only as part of some ostentatious retribution. Seeked at amerikosov. Why aren't terrorist facilities destroyed as soon as intelligence is available about them? You involuntarily begin to think that someone at the top benefits from a protracted war in Syria and our participation in it.
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 12 July 2016 17: 26
      0
      the question is certainly interesting., in Chechnya, too, they dragged on, then a truce, then negotiations, but there they "mastered" a lot of money and then something is not clear .. I am inclined to believe that somewhere at the top the resident is not working badly, maybe not alone. ., and how else to explain the pioneer miscalculations of the General Staff (stab in the back, aiming with illumination, etc.) in the development of the actions of the Aerospace Forces and the death of people?
    2. ML-334
      ML-334 12 July 2016 17: 47
      0
      I believe that the "moderate" were sitting there, maybe even the Yusovsky instructor. Von will rise, that means for sure.
      1. ty60
        ty60 13 July 2016 00: 01
        0
        The instructors were warned in advance !!!
    3. Lucy
      Lucy 13 July 2016 00: 17
      +1
      Your questions are not interesting to the public!
      Because they are not interested in the process of preparing for the implementation of a combat order (order) by a tactical group in long-range aviation. Especially in time, and even when flying through a neighboring state.
      The main thing is to notify the amerekos fool
  20. Shah71
    Shah71 12 July 2016 16: 56
    -2
    That's not otherwise. All to the gelatinous.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 12 July 2016 17: 02
      +3
      Learn Russian
      1. creak
        creak 12 July 2016 17: 37
        0
        Shah 71 Everyone on the gelatinous. [/ Quote]
        [quote = Sergey39] Learn Russian [/ quote]

        So guillotine is a French word ...: ... wink You can't learn everything ... what
        1. Sergey39
          Sergey39 12 July 2016 18: 44
          -1
          But it is written and pronounced in Russian
          1. grandfather Mih
            grandfather Mih 12 July 2016 19: 20
            +1
            Quote: Sergey39
            But it is written and pronounced in Russian

            I have been on the site for less than a month, such inclusions are rare. Pleasure to me.
  21. anarchist
    anarchist 12 July 2016 17: 01
    +5
    And why did they have to wait until our vallnut, they immediately had to bomb the camps.
  22. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 12 July 2016 17: 06
    +1
    It is necessary to bomb their terrorists more often, the main thing is to unexpectedly slam them on the spot
  23. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 12 July 2016 17: 09
    +1
    Find and destroy those who shot down the helicopter (I don't think it's a problem to identify the person who shot down the helicopter, yes, and crumble a bunch of barmaley around for prevention ... but kill cockroaches with a microscope?)
  24. david25
    david25 12 July 2016 17: 10
    -9
    how many lards have you written off?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 12 July 2016 18: 39
      0
      David, does it usually fall? Or just a bunch of puddles?

    2. AllXVahhaB
      AllXVahhaB 13 July 2016 09: 25
      0
      Quote: David25
      how many lards have you written off?

      What do you mean written off? How many new ones were charged into production to replenish ammunition !!!
  25. Lysik001
    Lysik001 12 July 2016 17: 13
    +4
    Why was there no such operation before the murder of our pilots? Such operations must be performed every day. Otherwise, it is a show and not a war of destruction.
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 12 July 2016 17: 54
      +1
      And guess from three times why the "Syrian" army is not equipped to the eyeballs with "flies", which are more effective than anything else for poisoning "cockroaches"? For many more why I do not know the answer ...
  26. Muvka
    Muvka 12 July 2016 17: 16
    0
    New An: http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/80303/
  27. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 12 July 2016 17: 30
    +1
    Turkish fruits and vegetables will go to Russia, and hundreds of thousands of Russian tourists will go to pull the Turkish economy out of time pressure.

    Only the mothers and wives of our dead soldiers and officers will remember who is Russia's friend and who is enemy.
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  28. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 12 July 2016 17: 36
    -2
    Big Fire is apparently the last trump card ?!
    What prevented or interferes with smashing the bearded "crocodiles" ?! belay
    shl. if only according to the BP plan, then it's clear! smile
    But where is revenge ???! winked
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 12 July 2016 17: 48
      -1
      Maybe not big, but backfire? smile
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    3. FID
      FID 12 July 2016 17: 49
      +2
      Quote: Cosmonaut
      Big Fire is apparently the last trump card ?!

      I beg your pardon, but not "Big ...", but "Back ... (back fire) ...
    4. Lucy
      Lucy 13 July 2016 00: 21
      +1
      To make it clear.
      According to the BP plan, they flew into Iran once, though during the Soviet era, with an inconsistent SPS.
  29. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 12 July 2016 17: 51
    +5
    The fact that the militants' camp was razed is good!
    But I don’t understand one thing - for this, our pilots must have died?
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 12 July 2016 18: 03
      -1
      Quote: Alexandr2637
      The fact that the militants' camp was razed is good!
      But I don’t understand one thing - for this, our pilots must have died?

      These camps were under the tacit protection of the United States and Turkey ... It is better not to touch the Russians and not to anger! Cynical, it sounds, but we were "thrown around" ... This is Karl's geopolitics and we don't know a lot!
  30. ioann1
    ioann1 12 July 2016 17: 58
    -1
    Thank God! Well done, eagles! And it's time - it's time to put the squeeze on the terrorists and free Syria from filth !!!
  31. vobels
    vobels 12 July 2016 18: 00
    0
    ".. delivered a concentrated blow with high-explosive fragmentation ammunition .." Good fireworks and good results. And let them grumble that it is expensive. But it is indicative and instructive.
  32. COBA
    COBA 12 July 2016 18: 02
    +1
    And why not use the TU-22 before the death of the helicopter?
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 12 July 2016 18: 11
      -5
      Quote: COBA
      And why not use the TU-22 before the death of the helicopter?

      It was impossible ... They destroyed the camp, the so-called "opposition" insolent .. Well crumbled there! If it were so every day, I think the war in Syria would end in a month ... But alas, in this war, too serious forces in the world are interested in Russia much is impossible, while I hope ... We took revenge clearly and I think there will still be powerful blows ..
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 12 July 2016 19: 00
        +3
        There are no results yet.

        Well, and most importantly, from the place of action (the Elevator of Palmyra and the surrounding skyscrapers) for a good 50 km there is no one except the Blacks and the Syrian Army (government).

        By the way, the version with TOU from MO is not so incredible. Black released a ribat report, where BMPs are being harnessed with TOU. Prior to that, they had a single TOC, mostly transmitted higher in the hierarchy (and settled somewhere in Raqqa). Maybe these TOUs are from that broken convoy of the New Syrian Army, or maybe from somewhere else.
  33. Nasty
    Nasty 12 July 2016 18: 05
    +2
    We warned, and perhaps the Americans managed to remove their moderate terrorists from under attack.
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 12 July 2016 18: 27
      0
      Most likely it was so, the Americans will not let them beat their own ...
  34. Pencil
    Pencil 12 July 2016 19: 13
    0
    And what, such a long-distance flight could not have been completed with carpet bombing?
  35. Roman13
    Roman13 12 July 2016 19: 30
    -1
    And is this retribution ????? It was necessary to drop 100 AVBPM vacuum bombs. So that 100 square kilometers lay for years under the ashes that will remain from these scum and their families. And then the whole world would know what it means to RUSSIAN retaliation !!!!
  36. Wasiliy1985
    Wasiliy1985 12 July 2016 20: 00
    +1
    NEXUS: Emotionally, I completely agree with you, just like one friend of mine, who, after exactly the same statements as yours, waited a little and said: "It's good that I'm not the president of Russia - then the whole world would have been" in dust "for a long time was! ".

    He closed the topic with the last phrase!
  37. dvg1959
    dvg1959 12 July 2016 20: 14
    0
    A delightful plane - a handsome man.
    And they said this plane has no prospects.
    The facts speak for themselves, but they do not argue with them.
  38. Wildfox
    Wildfox 12 July 2016 21: 01
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: jarome
    Let's get specific. What steps exactly to take?

    Do you want specifics on Syria? Don't you know her? Banning the flights of any warplanes of countries that do not have permission from the UN and the Syrian government. Second, make it clear to the Turks that if they rock the boat towards the Syrian border, there will be a forceful response. Third, it is necessary to end all this bleating about a truce. the military began to work, no need to interfere with them. Let them calmly finish their job and not stop the advance of the advancing troops with incomprehensible and harmful truces. It was after the truce that ISIS had stingers from somewhere.
    To intensify strikes both qualitatively and quantitatively against terrorists. To increase the contingent of troops in Armenia, to the point of placing Iskander and multiple launch rocket systems on the border of Armenia with Turkey.
    Increase the number of the aerospace forces in Syria by using two more airfields, which were discussed not so long ago.
    Further, it is clear and precise to demand lists of names of all the leaders of the terrorists in Syria and beyond its borders from the United States, who are in charge of ISIS, with reference to the location of these geeks, clearly identifying for the whole world de facto, whose brainchild is ISIS.

    Sorry that it's late, but it's time for you to start thinking.
    1. How many died in the Chechen first and second, during the 08.08.08, similar to the NATO in Iarak, Afghanistan. Your proposed option for the Russian Federation to drag the conflict will only lead to the fact that a bunch of Russians will die for no X ....
    2. Conquered won further what will you take into the Russian Federation? It’s not ISIS that it’s not like another infection, Arabs are like that.
    3. When you write "Uralozungi" remember. There are hundreds and thousands of children left without fathers in your plans. And the fathers are not dumbbells sleeping at the bus stop, but the defenders of the Motherland.

    "People are not matches to burn with boxes" (K. Simonov "The Living and the Dead") hi
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 July 2016 21: 28
      +2
      Quote: WildFox
      Sorry that it's late, but it's time for you to start thinking.

      Sorry, young man, but the same can be said of you.
      Quote: WildFox
      1. How many died in the Chechen first and second, during the 08.08.08, similar to the NATO in Iarak, Afghanistan. Your proposed option for the Russian Federation to drag the conflict will only lead to the fact that a bunch of Russians will die for no X ....

      But tell me, how many Russians will die in the future, if you leave Syria smoldering and ISIS bases proliferate not only in Turkey, but also in Tajikistan, and when will the Caucasus flare up again? Could you tell?
      Quote: WildFox
      2. They won back and won. What will you accept as part of the Russian Federation?

      And why are our videoconferencing in general there, is it interesting to listen to you wise?
      Quote: WildFox
      3. When you write "Uralozungi" remember. There are hundreds and thousands of children left without fathers in your plans. And the fathers are not dumbbells sleeping at the bus stop, but the defenders of the Motherland.

      Dear, these are not cheers, but thoughts that most of those present here have come to, but for some reason they are not voiced.
      And at the expense of thousands of children without fathers ... hmm ... let’s continue to not see what is happening in Ukraine, that the NATO missile defense makes us feel like wolves across the border. And I personally have a question for you -A HOW MUCH WILL THERE BE, IN THE FOLLOW-UP OF THE CORPSES, DO YOU NOT COUNT?
  39. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 12 July 2016 21: 26
    +1
    "We laid the carpet." That's right.
  40. kotuk_ha_oxote
    kotuk_ha_oxote 12 July 2016 23: 06
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: WildFox
    Sorry that it's late, but it's time for you to start thinking.

    Sorry, young man, but the same can be said of you.
    Quote: WildFox
    1. How many died in the Chechen first and second, during the 08.08.08, similar to the NATO in Iarak, Afghanistan. Your proposed option for the Russian Federation to drag the conflict will only lead to the fact that a bunch of Russians will die for no X ....

    But tell me, how many Russians will die in the future, if you leave Syria smoldering and ISIS bases proliferate not only in Turkey, but also in Tajikistan, and when will the Caucasus flare up again? Could you tell?
    Quote: WildFox
    2. They won back and won. What will you accept as part of the Russian Federation?

    And why are our videoconferencing in general there, is it interesting to listen to you wise?
    Quote: WildFox
    3. When you write "Uralozungi" remember. There are hundreds and thousands of children left without fathers in your plans. And the fathers are not dumbbells sleeping at the bus stop, but the defenders of the Motherland.

    Dear, these are not cheers, but thoughts that most of those present here have come to, but for some reason they are not voiced.
    And at the expense of thousands of children without fathers ... hmm ... let’s continue to not see what is happening in Ukraine, that the NATO missile defense makes us feel like wolves across the border. And I personally have a question for you -A HOW MUCH WILL THERE BE, IN THE FOLLOW-UP OF THE CORPSES, DO YOU NOT COUNT?

    But is it better to engage in the socio-economic development of the Caucasus in particular and the country as a whole? Then there will be nothing to blaze.

    And the NATO missile defense system is expanding in spite of everything, maybe something is being done wrong?
  41. Lucy
    Lucy 12 July 2016 23: 08
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: CTPEJIKuH
    Maybe it's time to understand that we are not in the USSR?

    Or maybe it's time to remember your dignity, and not just talk about it?


    I wonder if you are a regular soldier, or do you like to conduct political information? If the personnel, then probably the maximum of the regimental level.
    The state of the RF Armed Forces, both quantitatively and especially qualitatively, makes it possible to resist NATO only when planning the use of nuclear weapons. Do not frighten the hedgehog (NATO) with a bare ass (Iskander with OCH).

    Destroyed by impact large field camp of militants fellow , three depots of ammunition and weapons, three tanks, four infantry fighting vehicles, eight vehicles equipped with heavy machine guns, as well as a large number of enemy manpower fellow
    Where are the data of the means of objective control of BM with H> 5000m, possibly behind the clouds repeat , and why drive the rangers through Iran? Ishilovites began to gather in large field camps?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 July 2016 23: 19
      +1
      Quote: lusya
      The state of the RF Armed Forces, both quantitatively and especially qualitatively, makes it possible to resist NATO only when planning the use of nuclear weapons. Do not frighten the hedgehog (NATO) with a bare ass (Iskander with OCH).

      And why shouldn't nuclear weapons become not only a deterrent, but also a lever for obtaining the result that is needed? I don't think that the Turks will like the list of targets that, in the event of a hostile attack, will be destroyed.
      Quote: lusya
      Ishilovites began to gather in large field camps?

      And I'm not talking about the same thing? Maybe it's time to stop playing partners and allies? Nurse to interfere with our VKS, declaring ceasefire, which is only useful ISIS, for the redeployment and replenishment of both their ranks and the arsenal? Only our air forces are legitimately in Syria, so maybe we need to end with the "warnings" of the pseudo coalition led by the United States about their actions, knowing that ISIS is a brainchild of Washington?
      1. Lucy
        Lucy 13 July 2016 00: 50
        +2
        And why shouldn't nuclear weapons become not only a deterrent, but also a lever for obtaining the result that is needed? I don't think that the Turks will like the list of targets that, in the event of a hostile attack, will be destroyed.

        Turkey already had nuclear weapons, and in the USSR they produced not only needles but tractors and much more. The bowels of the earth belonged to the people! And then Khrushchev freaked out with nuclear weapons in Cuba!
        Today's sanctions against the Russian Federation are a childish prank! If the nut is tightened, and even more steeply than Iran, then in comparison with the DPRK we will bend on our sofas looking at the military secret in a couple of years.
        And on the topic.
        From a military point of view, this sortie with 2 Tu-22M3 detachments on a radius, using BM from medium, high altitudes, even according to the KBP, has a great price (meaning), except for reducing the resource, and does not have skills in SVZh (we look VKO at estimate 5). Don't talk about Hephaestus.
        Tu-22m3 is now a piece unit, and is planned on maps, in FGP, BR (packages) as carriers of CD with nuclear warheads, with the exception of the sea (because the MRA is no longer there).
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 July 2016 01: 00
          +2
          Quote: lusya
          If the nut is tightened, and even more steeply than Iran, then in comparison with the DPRK we will bend on our sofas looking at the military secret in a couple of years.

          If the United States at least tries to win back on the complete collapse of Russia, then within a week, the dollar will collapse in response. And then Black Tuesday will seem like a clear summer day to mattresses, and most of the world. And the Americans know this.
          Now on the topic ... to be honest, it looks stupid. Not only are we driving the "long-range" to bomb it is not clear what, and we also inform the party that directly finances ISIS about our plans.
          But the effect was achieved, our revenge was terrible. And it doesn't matter that those directly responsible for the deaths of the SU-24 and MI-25 are alive and well.
        2. ism_ek
          ism_ek 13 July 2016 13: 36
          0
          Quote: lusya
          From a military point of view, this sortie with 2 Tu-22M3 detachments per radius, using BM from medium, high altitudes, even according to the KBP of a high price (meaning), except for reducing the resource

          India wants to buy Tu-22m3. So we demonstrated the plane in practice.
          https://lenta.ru/news/2016/07/11/vnezapno/
  42. Romin
    Romin 12 July 2016 23: 12
    0
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    The Turks killed, and now the tourist flow is higher than before!

    So many love for the Motherland is ostentatious, but in slogans ... And when it comes to your wallet ... All the principles where it disappears and there are reasons ... It would be better if Russia could be understood with the mind ... And so we will remix the topic; ) eh people, people
    Who has the courage to admit that they will go to Turkey to Erdogan?
  43. Zomanus
    Zomanus 13 July 2016 00: 07
    0
    Great news. I hope that this will not be limited to one departure.
    Now we are waiting for reports on the suffering of bearded children from the Western media.
    It is interesting that in response to this their foreign sponsors will put the bearded?
  44. gavrosh.ru
    gavrosh.ru 13 July 2016 04: 42
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Maybe the time of talking and searching for understanding has passed, where it will never be if you are weak? Maybe it's time to start somewhere and give in the face, somewhere to take your own, somewhere to return what you gave in the 90s?


    aha-then pull the enemy into the depths of their territory and, according to the ancient tradition, then drive him to the enemy capitals? in 812 - a year was needed - in 1941 - 4 years. so so arithmetic am ... although in my opinion everyone is being prepared for such that it is better for a war with the occupants. than paying a communal apartment, taxes and mortgages. sure we will win. but victories are usually stolen from us (from our State) - and it became clear to them (the enemies) that the main thing is to notify us, the Russians (probably Soviet Jews, after all, explained the tale about Malchish-Kibalchish to every Kissinger, in vain they were still allowed by the state .we have the result of the game of a smart kind strong Russian - with a smart and no less strong Jewish sharper). so that there was no one to defeat them. And I think they have not forgotten Prince Oleg either. And we are kind - in shit like in a fortress, and we forgive everyone, like a current enemy's snot bloody let out and squeal more plaintively.
    It's still early to hit hard in the face - we need to pump up muscle, and give birth to healthy people with a healthy general idea in the head (this is what they took from us at 90). 50-70 years later - it's time. And while they snap back and hope that we will be given this time our sworn friends.
  45. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 13 July 2016 09: 19
    0
    I would not be surprised if it turns out that the ISIS members were vkurst that they would be bombed and left any slag at the base ... after all, having told the Americans the time and route of our bombers, it would be like announcing an air raid on the radio to ISIS and asking them to go into cover!
  46. Irokez
    Irokez 13 July 2016 09: 53
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    So Ukraine is for us, the same territory of our interests as Mexico is for the United States.

    Ukraine, yes, is the territory of the Russian Empire, but excuse me, what does the United States have to do with Mexico and even more so with interests? Rather, Mexico has an interest in certain states in the United States, but not vice versa.
  47. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 13 July 2016 13: 03
    0
    Quote: Irokez
    Quote: NEXUS
    So Ukraine is for us, the same territory of our interests as Mexico is for the United States.

    Ukraine, yes, is the territory of the Russian Empire, but excuse me, what does the United States have to do with Mexico and even more so with interests? Rather, Mexico has an interest in certain states in the United States, but not vice versa.

    +
    The Iroquois, too, have a bigger claim to the Yankees! wink
  48. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 13 July 2016 13: 11
    0
    Quote: Cosmonaut
    Big Fire is apparently the last trump card ?!

    As used to it, I wrote it! Argue among yourselves! laughing
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Maybe not big, but backfire? smile

    Quote: SSI
    I beg your pardon, but not "Big ...", but "Back ... (back fire) ...
  49. Cosmonaut
    Cosmonaut 13 July 2016 14: 24
    0
    In fact !!! wink
    “The Kremlin does not consider the actions of the Russian aviation in Syria to be an act of retribution for the death of the pilots.

    "The operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces continues, all this is being carried out within the framework of the ongoing operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces," Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary of the Russian President, told reporters.

    Thus, he answered the question whether the actions of Russian aviation in Syria on Tuesday can be called an act of retaliation. "
    BP plan and no revenge !!! wassat
  50. zenith
    zenith 13 July 2016 16: 11
    0
    Quote: AllXVahhaB
    Only the United States can afford something else, which prints the world currency and has the most powerful army in the history of mankind ...

    There was already one army, the most powerful on the planet. Remember yes? This is what I'm afraid of. Then this strong army was bent over and whipped. But then the people in the country were simpler and more reliable or something. And now the same people in the gajits? Maybe not puzomerki are needed, but an understanding of this. We are now the people who with cancer put the most powerful armies of those eras?
    1. lukewarm
      lukewarm 13 July 2016 16: 36
      0
      Quote: zenit
      We are now the people who with cancer put the most powerful armies of those eras?

      Nope. laughing The one that himself stands with cancer in the beds and prefers not to look beyond the furrow.