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The final of the French tender for automatic rifle out Germany and Belgium

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In the final of the tender, designed to find a replacement for the French automatic rifle FAMAS, were the German Heckler & Koch HK416 and the Belgian FN SCAR, the portal reports. sentinels.


Heckler & Koch HK416

The final decision of the French military should be taken during this year.

“Five companies took part in the French tender for the purchase of 101000 AIF (Personal Automatic Rifle of the Future) automatic rifles: Heckler & Koch (Germany), FN Herstal (Belgium), Beretta (Italy), Swiss Arms (Switzerland) and HS Produkt (Croatia) ... Product participation criteria: 5,56 mm caliber, the ability to fire with barrel grenades (combat, smoke and training). 45000 AIF units are to be produced as standard and 45000 in a short version. A prerequisite is the ability to adapt weapons to the felin fighter outfit, - comments blog post bmpd.

It is noted that "the HK416 rifle was previously known to the French security forces, since it is massively used by the French special forces and the anti-terrorism units." To win the competition, “the advantage of the HK416 rifle is the use of French steel in the design, and the fact that the rifle is familiar to future users. All its advantages are known for combat use in Afghanistan, Libya, the Middle East, ”the article says.

As for the FN SCAR rifle, according to the author, “it was created by order of the US Special Operations Command (CSR). It can be produced in the caliber 5,56 of NATO or 7,62x51 of NATO - in the US it is armed with special forces CSR, Navy SEAL, SWAT. ”
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  1. Andrey K
    Andrey K 7 July 2016 12: 58
    +11
    I put 100% on the Belgian FN SCAR. The Germans will fly by.
    The German rifle HK416 is one of the variations of the M4 / M16, with the corresponding projection of the pros and cons. In addition, Heckler & Koch now, by the most I do not want, is tied to the G36 scandal.
    The Belgian company FN Herstal, more or less evenly.
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 7 July 2016 13: 36
      +4
      Precisely, the Belgians have more chances. SCAR is also modular, interchangeable barrels and bolt groups, it is easy to remake it for different caliber, for different tasks. Now it is also in trend.
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 7 July 2016 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: Maksus
        SCAR is also modular, interchangeable barrels and bolt groups, it is easy to remake it for different caliber, for different tasks. Now it is also in trend.

        Well, so HK416 is no less modular, this is the M-16 platform, everything changes absolutely there.
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 7 July 2016 18: 02
          +2
          Quote: psiho117

          Well, so HK416 is no less modular, this is the M-16 platform, everything changes absolutely there.

          Yes, but it’s impossible to build something sane from M-ki. Maximum automatic is a short automatic. And Skar can be turned into something like a PKK and a light Marxman rifle. Plus it is bicaliber 5,56 / 7,62.
          1. psiho117
            psiho117 7 July 2016 23: 50
            0
            Quote: Maksus
            it’s impossible to build something from M-ki ... But Skar can be turned into something like a PKK and a light Marxman rifle.


            PKK? Yes please - M27 IAR, M16A1 \ A2 HBAR, Colt M16A3 LSW, was even with a quick-change barrel and rear-shot firing - XM106

            1. Maksus
              Maksus 8 July 2016 10: 08
              0
              Let’s then immediately call SOP mod an analog of Vintorez, to trifle))) There are a silencer and subsonic cartridges, and the receiver is set different.
  2. alpamys
    alpamys 7 July 2016 12: 58
    +5
    the French can’t come up with their own chtoli?
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 July 2016 13: 10
      +8
      Quote: alpamys
      the French can’t come up with their own chtoli?

      They can. But each time it turns out Shosh, then FAMAS. smile
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 7 July 2016 13: 33
      +3
      alpamys (1) DE Today, 12:58 PM New
      the French can’t come up with their own chtoli?
      Ha ha sure they can’t! laughing Have you seen them Famas? They have it for parades and photo shoots. Who is against ?!
      p / s Going to war do you take FAMAS?
  3. berezin1987
    berezin1987 7 July 2016 13: 00
    +3
    Are the French unable to make a normal machine themselves? And what is the new weapon superior to their famas so much that they decided to replace it?
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 July 2016 13: 06
      +3
      Quote: berezin1987
      And what is the new weapon superior to their famas so much that they decided to replace it?

      Maybe outdated? They have been using it since 1981.
      1. berezin1987
        berezin1987 7 July 2016 13: 09
        +2
        I suspect he has serious reliability issues. In Famas, they used automatic control with a half-free shutter, and it is used very rarely.
      2. x.andvlad
        x.andvlad 7 July 2016 13: 32
        0
        There is evidence that in desert conditions, such as Mali, FAMAS was often enough for one or two lines. Then I had to use trophies, in particular Kalash.
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  4. lysyj bob
    lysyj bob 7 July 2016 13: 03
    +1
    The task for those who like to speculate that our designers "licked something from something": find 10 differences from M4 ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 7 July 2016 13: 05
      0
      Find 10 differences from M4 ...

      And you can immediately answer, otherwise I’m looking, the profile is familiar, but somehow it’s a bit different. Given that it was created on the basis of M4.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 7 July 2016 15: 21
        -1
        Quote: Wedmak
        otherwise I’m looking, the profile is familiar, but somehow it’s a bit different. Given that it was created on the basis of M4.

        How much is the gas exhaust system from G 36 what
  5. Monos
    Monos 7 July 2016 13: 04
    +8
    In the final of the tender, designed to find a replacement for the French automatic rifle FAMAS, there were the German Heckler & Koch HK416 and the Belgian FN SCAR


    The winner of the final refused the super final with a Kalashnikov assault rifle. smile
    1. Izotovp
      Izotovp 7 July 2016 14: 48
      0
      They have Kalash. That is, saiga for the gendarmerie. I think that they would not refuse Kalash, but who will allow them ?! laughing
  6. berezin1987
    berezin1987 7 July 2016 13: 05
    +1
    HK416 is a redesigned American M16 with the addition of a short-stroke gas piston. SCAR is a very good sample with the ability to change ammunition and a set of barrels of various lengths. The Belgian looks much better than the German.
  7. alpamys
    alpamys 7 July 2016 13: 06
    -1
    probably the same crap as G36

    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 7 July 2016 13: 41
      0
      It shoots, there is no land roll to catch the bullets. You'll think three times on the hunt, but here’s a battle!
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 7 July 2016 19: 02
        0
        The video shows that with a single fire and in turn, sausages it more than AK74.
        1. alpamys
          alpamys 8 July 2016 09: 21
          +1
          Quote: Igor39
          The video shows that with a single fire and in turn, sausages it more than AK74.

          also noticed that shakes him like STG44
  8. sasha52ru
    sasha52ru 7 July 2016 13: 09
    -1
    And ours do not participate ??))))
    1. tsvetkov1274
      tsvetkov1274 7 July 2016 13: 17
      +1
      Well, sanctions. And they would have won :)
  9. Castor oil
    Castor oil 7 July 2016 13: 23
    -1
    Have eaten famasa French ...
  10. DesToeR
    DesToeR 7 July 2016 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: Andrey K
    I put 100% on the Belgian FN SCAR. The Germans will fly by.

    Accepted! I put it on HK 416. This rifle is gaining ground, and the Americans themselves refused FN SCAR in 5,56 caliber - they returned to the M4 special forces.
  11. uav80
    uav80 7 July 2016 13: 26
    +1
    Quote: berezin1987
    And what is the new weapon superior to their famas so much that they decided to replace it?

    Not all models can be equipped with the standard NATO M203 grenade launcher, with the weaver straps there are also problems only from above and below (closing the open scope) and they are small for installing a heavy lance, Famas Felin still didn’t go, but G1 and G2 have a little problem . But how Koch and Skar please with Felin is another question since on Famas Felin in the front handle (arc) integrated control unit optics and PNV ...
  12. Brigadier
    Brigadier 7 July 2016 13: 30
    +1
    Yes, it doesn’t matter to us who will win there. The main thing is that their new rifle was not more reliable than the G-36 ... laughing
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 July 2016 15: 03
      +3
      The G-36 is a good rifle. Do not just out of it in excitement
      long bursts of fire - there are machine guns.
      This caught the NATO in Afghanistan and the Middle East.
      It is necessary to aim and do a cutoff, but rather single
      (as accepted by the IDF). And there will be no overheating and failures.
      1. psiho117
        psiho117 7 July 2016 16: 52
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The G-36 is a good rifle. Do not just out of it in excitement
        long bursts of fire - there are machine guns.
        ... And there will be no overheating and failures.


        Well, we will still be objective: the problem is not in excessively intense shooting - but in a polymer unsuitable for operation at high temperatures.
        And so the rifle is good, he shot - rejoiced bully

        PS How are your lasers? already knocking down? wassat
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 July 2016 23: 28
          0
          "How are your lasers going? Are they already shooting down?" ////

          Let's see, they promised before the end of the year ...
          And so the Americans, alas, are overtaking us - they are going to rivet 150 kV "hyperboloid" on the ship.
          And we push around at 50-70 sad
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  13. Igor39
    Igor39 7 July 2016 13: 31
    +2
    But where is the unbroken Jewish World's best 21st century Tabor?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 July 2016 14: 47
      +2
      So that the French would buy weapons from the Jews? Uh ... you didn’t think ...

      Tavor is sold slowly, but mainly to special forces.
      Most Indians bought.
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 7 July 2016 21: 13
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        So that the French would buy weapons from the Jews? Uh ... you didn’t think ...


        The phrase Alexey smiled. Cool. wassat
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  14. Engineer
    Engineer 7 July 2016 13: 32
    0
    Well, if the mind is enough, and not the influence of the Hans, then Belgian rifles will go into service.
  15. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 7 July 2016 13: 34
    +1
    Fussing in the sandbox with scoops. There is a little streamlet more ergonomic, there is a piece of iron of pozakovyristy. You can still greenish tint. Pampering, one word. 101000 - yes, it's just ridiculous. I don’t argue, the right thing, but why you’ll not see anything fundamentally new to the whole world?
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 July 2016 13: 55
    +1
    I am surprised, why didn't you consider "Tavor"? In the desert - reliable, familiar "Bullpup", and cute. Or is it "for a bastard"?
  17. Koresh
    Koresh 7 July 2016 14: 00
    +2
    Where are the Czechs with their CZ? Heard they once participated in a NATO tender and won sort of like?
    But I think that the Germans will sell the NK416, the more so Germany is the main one in the EU, and is very similar to the American M4 series rifles.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 July 2016 14: 51
      0
      I think they’ll choose the Belgian one.
      And the choice will be more political than technical.
      The French and the Belgians are like one people.
      1. Parsec
        Parsec 7 July 2016 15: 29
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The French and the Belgians are like one people.


        Herase.

        Do the Flemings know?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 July 2016 15: 56
          +5
          Flammers would not like my statement. sad
          But what to do is not to please everyone. But the Walloons
          would treat me to a great beer! fellow
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  18. CRP
    CRP 7 July 2016 15: 50
    +3
    HK416 has a gas piston, not a tube like the M4, so this is not a clone.