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Media: the soldiers of the Bundeswehr do not trust their weapons

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A survey conducted in the German army showed that the majority of military personnel doubted the reliability of their weapons, Said Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to Popular Mechanics.



“More than half rated it as unreliable, whereas confidence in the same G36 army rifles, which are the main weapons used in the Bundeswehr, was expressed only by 8 percent of respondents,” the publication says.

The corresponding survey was conducted during last year's exercises of the German army.

It is reported that "43 percent of military personnel said that their weapons are" rather unreliable "or" generally unreliable, "28 percent indicated that they can only trust their weapons" partially "."

In addition, the majority of soldiers expressed their distrust of the MG3 heavy machine gun, the release of which began more than 50-ti years ago, and anti-tank missiles: "somewhat reliable".

“All these problems are connected with many years of underfunding of the Bundeswehr. Germany spends 1,2 a percent of GDP on defense, which is noticeably less than two percent taken as a standard in NATO, ”the article's author believes.

The WG recalls that the largest number of complaints about the G36 assault rifle came from German soldiers involved in an operation in Afghanistan: “the weapon lost accuracy and firing range at high temperatures”. It is expected that new types of small arms will begin to flow into the Bundeswehr in 2019.
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  1. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 22 June 2016 12: 49
    +6
    Maybe their hands just grow out of the wrong place?
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 June 2016 13: 05
      +15
      Now the United States will podsutitsya and say (order) to buy American, especially the budget is increased.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 13: 07
      +7
      Well, if you ask me a lot, we can sell them the AK-47 with wooden butts. lol We have them in our warehouses before a damn damn since Soviet times!
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 22 June 2016 13: 15
        +12
        Quote: GSH-18
        Well, if you ask me a lot, we can sell them the AK-47 with wooden butts. lol We have them in our warehouses before a damn damn since Soviet times!

        You can not imagine how many AK in the warehouses of the Bundeswehr, inherited from the NNA of the GDR. The GDR has been producing our Kalashnikov under license since 1956 and has stamped a lot of them (models - MPi-K (AK), MPi-KS (AKS), MPi-KM (AKM), MPi-KMS72 (AKMS)); request
        1. inkass_98
          inkass_98 22 June 2016 13: 32
          +4
          German citizens knew a lot about good and reliable weapons even before the advent of AK clones.
      2. Verdun
        Verdun 22 June 2016 14: 07
        -1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Well, if you ask me a lot, we can sell them the AK-47 with wooden butts lol We have them in stock until a damn thing, since Soviet times!

        The AK-47 assault rifle never existed. From the word "in general". In 1047, the AK assault rifle was adopted. The following modifications are AKS, AKM.
        1. Verdun
          Verdun 22 June 2016 14: 36
          +4
          Quote: Verdun
          In 1047 year

          Sealed, of course - in 1947. At the same time, I want to note once again, especially for minusculers, that the name AK-47 came from Western literature. In the USSR, this designation was not used.
        2. vadimtt
          vadimtt 22 June 2016 16: 38
          +3
          And why did you get the minuses? According to the AK-47, he is right.
          Or is everyone tired of this button accordion? Or for the curvature of a finger that jumped from 9 and pressed 0 in the date? laughing Harshly.
        3. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 22 June 2016 16: 57
          +4
          Quote: Verdun
          The AK-47 assault rifle never existed. From the word "in general". In 1047, the AK assault rifle was adopted. The following modifications are AKS, AKM.

          Quote: Verdun
          Sealed, of course - in 1947. At the same time, I want to note once again, especially for minusculers, that the name AK-47 came from Western literature. In the USSR, this designation was not used.

          AK-47 was, but, as an experimental one during military trials. "AK" was adopted not in 1947, but in 1949 GRAU index - 56-A-212.
          I can surprise you, there was even an AK-46.
          Watch from 9 minutes.
          1. Verdun
            Verdun 22 June 2016 19: 32
            -1
            Quote: Barkhan
            AK-47 was, but as experimental during military tests.

            The internal designations of test samples are so dark that judging them from someone’s words is useless until you see the real documentation. Any constructor will tell you this. Moreover, when a person writes
            We have them in our warehouses before a damn damn since Soviet times!
            , he clearly means not experimental samples.
    3. gg.na
      gg.na 22 June 2016 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      hands grow out of the wrong place?

      At the designers! lol ! But what a beautiful wassat design lol !! True design you can’t win a lot !!! bully
      1. jjj
        jjj 22 June 2016 13: 34
        +1
        This is how they prepared for war games like "a conditional enemy". And then they are offered to go to Russia. Still, not really morons, they heard something about the Second World War. They became afraid, they understand that they are piling on them from the heart
      2. Verdun
        Verdun 22 June 2016 14: 08
        0
        Quote: gg.na
        True design you can’t win a lot !!! bully

        Simply, not everything is gold that is PR.
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 22 June 2016 22: 46
        0
        I was very happy for the Bundeswehr. A trifle, but nice.
    4. Shuttle
      Shuttle 22 June 2016 15: 33
      +3
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Maybe their hands just grow out of the wrong place?

      Cool down. In any case, the Germans relate to war in German. Those. very, very thorough, t.s. professionally.
      Another thing is that they are still under occupation anyway, despite the fact that the 70 war ended years ago. Sneezing them on their own Bundeswehr. Who should they fight with? What military tasks can Germany have besides NATO? They have no one to sell their G36 to. That's why they do not rifles, but the hell.
      In short, they simply do not really need anyone.
    5. Appraiser
      Appraiser 22 June 2016 17: 05
      0
      And not only arms but also legs! yes
    6. alpamys
      alpamys 22 June 2016 17: 43
      +2
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Maybe their hands just grow out of the wrong place?

      Most likely this is the reason, the Google generation has grown, MG3 is unreliable to them, this is the best machine gun of all time.
    7. torp
      torp 22 June 2016 19: 28
      +1
      Bundeswehr soldiers do not trust their weapons! I’ll tell you more: they distrust even their colleagues, they are afraid to turn their backs on each other in the bathhouse! About times, about manners! wassat
  2. Khariton
    Khariton 22 June 2016 12: 49
    +1
    They are not yet allowed to have a good offensive weapon (like the Japanese ..) But if they climb to Russia, they will have everything (if they manage in time of course ..)))
    1. Andrey K
      Andrey K 22 June 2016 13: 05
      +5
      Colleague, and where does offensive weapon and rifle? Where is the connection? And the Germans didn’t forbid having offensive weapons request
  3. Andrey K
    Andrey K 22 June 2016 12: 50
    +7
    With the G36, the Germans really suffered request
    Under the guise of trying to vparit Balts laughing
    There was information about the supply of a batch of these rifles to the Kurds in Iraq. So those put them up for sale right away. Iraq’s markets at the end of last, beginning of this year, were flooded with G36 rifles request
    Since replacing the G3 with the G36 in 1997, this rifle has been plagued by a loop of flaws. Although ... various kinds of mercenaries, they use it and it happens, they praise it request
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 22 June 2016 13: 13
      +3
      Andrey K hi
      A colleague of the problem of the Bundeswehr in a shavkoplonennoy pose to the United States. If they, like other European countries, 1.2% of GDP goes to defense, then what can we talk about there. Although I have a feeling that this is good. The United States acts as a guarantor of their "non-availability" and my mother vowed to defend Europe to the last European if necessary. Russia is the only country who did not want to be in such a situation. Although our liberals were pulling and pulling us into a "common European home." But as they say, it's better to have your own house with a strong economy in the village than a stinking hostel in the city.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 22 June 2016 13: 32
        +8
        Sergei, yes to me, as well as to you, the problems of the Bundeswehr are generally parallel. These are their problems. And the more of them: the Germans and the NATO alliance, the easier it is for us.
        Problems with the G36 are interesting for another reason. Our gunsmiths need to take a closer look and take note of this situation. So as not to step on the same rake yes
        Indeed, in pursuit of production costs reduction, the Germans lost quality. There was a way G3 chambered for 7,62x51 (308), but no, they were put under the squeeze to switch to the general standard for .223. Replacement, where necessary and not necessary, of metal for plastic (we wanted to be in the "trend") - in the end we got what we have request
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 June 2016 17: 14
      0
      "G36 in 1997, behind this rifle there is a train of flaws" ////

      G36 is a normal shotgun. Do not just out of it
      firing in long bursts is not a machine gun.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 22 June 2016 17: 28
        +6
        Quote: voyaka uh
        G36 is a normal shotgun. Do not just out of it
        firing in long bursts is not a machine gun.

        The shotgun is likely normal. And if it is not adapted to "shoot" out of it, as you put it: then there is no need to hang the name on this "gun" - an assault rifle. Isn't it, somehow it turns out not according to the status ...
        So the Germans complain that it’s impossible to shoot from it, as we can say from the good old G3 request
        Moreover, an examination commissioned by the German Ministry of Defense (the Federal Audit Office, the Frauenhofer Scientific Society, the Bundeswehr Defense Technology Service and the Scientific and Defense Institute for Work and Production Materials) showed - G36 not suitable for use request
  4. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 June 2016 12: 50
    +7
    Germany would have much better weapons if she hadn’t been in NATO.
  5. Engineer
    Engineer 22 June 2016 12: 50
    +1
    Well, this is no longer news. A lot has been written about a room rifle, afraid of the sun and shots with a standard cartridge. But in Hollywood action films and toys, this is the best rifle!
  6. Abbra
    Abbra 22 June 2016 12: 51
    +4
    And behind this poll, the donkey ears of the arms lobby of Germany and NATO are visible ... New orders, new improvements and developments - new money ...
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 June 2016 12: 55
    +4
    And why did they become in a pose against MG? fellow Shoot yourself until the barrel hangs! laughing
  8. Igor39
    Igor39 22 June 2016 12: 57
    0
    They don’t want to change it for SC SCAR?
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 22 June 2016 12: 57
    0
    however, the Russian Kalash set a high standard for reliability, albeit to the detriment of accuracy and shooting comfort, and the Germans didn’t really invent anything fundamentally new a long time ago, only the overall design and body kit, gentlemen should be ashamed of Fritz, and once along with other European manufacturers you really were the legislators of small arms ...
    1. Maxom75
      Maxom75 22 June 2016 14: 32
      +3
      If I were in battle, I would prefer, though not very accurate, not very convenient in terms of shooting, but RELIABLE and SIMPLE Kalash! The nephew served in Tsahal, so he joked like this: If you need to take the M-16 or an Israeli machine gun to the parade, and if you want to survive, kill the Palestinian and take his Kalash from him. Immediately, the chances of survival increase significantly. Opinion soldier Tsahal.
      1. Professor
        Professor 22 June 2016 14: 54
        0
        Quote: Maxom75
        Opinion soldier Tsahal.

        It's a bike, not an opinion. Especially about "if you want to survive, kill the Palestinian and take the Kalash from him." The Arabs are armed with what, from homemade products to Egyptian and Chinese clones of AK. The quality of most of their weapons is poor. Luckily for us. Here is from the terrorist attack the other day:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjiReLLKEfk
        At the 20th second, the machine jammed and macawdemon them over lying wounded and run away. Offer to throw Tabor and take the weapons of this terrorist?
        1. Maxom75
          Maxom75 22 June 2016 16: 19
          +4
          The author of this story has Israeli citizenship, F.I. Sukhir Igor.)))) So don’t tell me about stories)))
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 June 2016 19: 28
            -1
            Quote: Maxom75
            The author of this story has Israeli citizenship, F.I. Sukhir Igor.)))) So don’t tell me about stories)))

            So what? In your opinion, after fishing, hunting or the army, the Israelis don’t tell tales about how many sharks they caught, they shot bears and soaked the Arabs? wink
  10. Professor
    Professor 22 June 2016 13: 02
    +6
    How on time they started talking about it. Just Merkel was going to allocate money, and that was a bit of a fuss. wink
  11. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 June 2016 13: 04
    +17
    somewhere in Africa, they took away weapons from poachers, they hunted elephants. do not pay attention to the design, the main thing is that it works properly! do you recognize? good(cry)
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 22 June 2016 13: 32
      0
      This is how much he lay in the ground that he was so devoured? Or was he burning at all? belay
    2. masiya
      masiya 22 June 2016 15: 45
      0
      Blimey!!! Probably Angola, or Namibia off the coast, it rotted for about ten to fifteen years, we have pulled Fritzev’s rarities out of the swamps and the craftsmen are also reborn to life, only they create a beautiful form without utilitarianism.
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 June 2016 13: 06
    0
    Everything is natural. Give me money, otherwise a terrible Russian bear will bite everyone. But then you need a little rifle. New tanks or planes cost significantly more. laughing
  13. Altona
    Altona 22 June 2016 13: 23
    +3
    The people in social networks have responded so lively to this news ... When the Minister of Defense of your country is a woman-gynecologist ...
  14. Sly
    Sly 22 June 2016 13: 26
    0
    “Weapons lost accuracy and range at high temperatures”

    and in the conditions of a harsh winter it was not checked at all apparently
  15. iouris
    iouris 22 June 2016 13: 29
    +3
    Editorial, author, you have a grammatical error in the title. Search.
  16. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 22 June 2016 13: 32
    +2
    Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
    Maybe their hands just grow out of the wrong place?

    The Germans? How strange for them this phrase sounds. Maybe just for many decades the occupied nation has lost interest in creating high-quality weapons, and it takes an example from the Americans, for whom the defense order is primarily to cut the budget. Only here there is a difference - the Americans themselves print money, and they are enough for everyone, and the Germans are deprived of this opportunity. laughing
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 22 June 2016 17: 52
      0
      Quote: sergeyzzz
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Maybe their hands just grow out of the wrong place?

      The Germans? How strange for them this phrase sounds.

      the most true phrase ... the crooked Germans went
  17. Castor oil
    Castor oil 22 June 2016 13: 41
    +1
    Yes, there is a problem with that of the whole business - with active shooting, the hot barrel heats up the plastic of the body kit, that oppression and "leads" not childishly, and, accordingly, "leads" the sighting bar, and as a result, the sighting line shifts that open sighting, that set otherwise sight.
  18. Evil 55
    Evil 55 22 June 2016 13: 49
    +4
    German weapons are too technologically advanced for modern Germans .. For pederast culture does not provide technical knowledge ...
  19. Taygerus
    Taygerus 22 June 2016 13: 59
    0
    and what did they want for NATO membership, they must sacrifice something or buy Omerz’s
  20. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 June 2016 14: 02
    +3
    In my opinion the problem is much deeper ... The soldiers of Europe (not only Germany) do not want to start this meat grinder with Russia. It’s good that everyone sees and realizes that our tanks are not cardboard, and the gunpowder is dry ... well, all the same, mattress propaganda is not etched to the end the memory of the cots from the Russian Ivan in the past.
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 June 2016 15: 08
    +1
    No, well, if there’s really only weapons for parades,
    it’s better to say this before a real war.
    It must be understood that Europe after World War II practically did not conduct lengthy military operations.
    Especially with the weapons that are now in service.
    And now the run-in has begun and comments have appeared.
  22. Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 June 2016 06: 02
    0
    What gentlemen, grenades of the wrong system or the Kalashnikovs are not enough for everyone? The mess, however, and who is responsible for everything there, are not exceptional by chance?