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Media: The Russians showed the Americans who really is the master in the Middle East

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Barack Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean at once, but this is not enough to gain superiority in the air in the region, where the real masters of the situation are the Russian Federation Space Forces, writes the Washington Times newspaper.




“Last week, the American F-18 aircraft tried to prevent the Russian aviation strike on Syrian rebels supported by the US. He did not succeed. Russian Su-34s attacked the positions of the rebels, after which the American F-18 fighter was raised. Russian bombers left the zone, however, as soon as the F-18 went on refueling, they returned and dealt another blow, ”the newspaper quoted the text of the article. Look.

After this, the Obama administration "expressed grave concern."

“As far as security is concerned, the ministry’s officials (the United States Defense) noted that the attacks on Russia (settlement) Al-Tanf, which were not stopped even after the United States tried to inform the Russian armed forces, through appropriate channels, about the air support that the coalition At the moment, the forces fighting the IG are causing security and security concerns to the US and the coalition forces, ”said Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook.

According to the author of the article, "President Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean Sea in order to convey his point of view and hit himself in the chest in front of Russian President Vladimir Putin."

“However, Putin responded to this with the murder of American-backed groups and a clear denial of US military superiority. Thanks to this, in the eyes of his people and the world's population, Putin appears really strong and in a good light, ”the newspaper writes.

“What a mess is going on in the Danish kingdom!”, The author exclaims with the words of Shakespeare.

In his opinion, Russia clearly showed who is the owner in the Middle East. “It's good that only a few months are left until the end of Obama’s presidential term,” the newspaper notes.

Earlier, British media reported that the VKS destroyed almost half of the pro-Western "New Syrian Army", which is supported by the United States and Great Britain.

In turn, the Russian Defense Ministry has denied information about strikes against the Syrian opposition, noting that it conducts military operations outside the areas in which opposition forces operate.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 22 June 2016 08: 59
    +29
    Russia is running out of patience ... The difference between "good" and "bad" terrorists in Syria is only in the inflamed minds of representatives of the US State Department and they sang along from Europe ... All who do not comply with the ceasefire regime ... should be destroyed by the troops of Assad and The Russian Aerospace Forces ... The war has dragged on for too long ... it's time to end this mess ... firmly and clearly identifying priorities ... then the people of Syria will determine themselves how to live ...
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 22 June 2016 09: 10
      +15
      President Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean Sea to convey his point of view and hit his chest in front of Russian President Vladimir Putin. ”

      Well, let him hit yourself in the head, maybe there will be more sense. lol , lame monkey.

      “However, Putin responded by killing American-backed factions and a clear denial of American military superiority. Thanks to this, in the eyes of his people and the world's population, Putin appears really strong and in a good light.

      What they called for from the very beginning of the VKS operation in Syria, not to hell with dividing the barmalei into good and good, but driving them to hell with the earth.
      It’s good that Obama’s presidential term is only a few months away, ”

      We won’t cry, let him climb back onto the palm tree, but we don’t expect from the next good either.
      1. Kostyar
        Kostyar 22 June 2016 10: 37
        +2
        Our Well done, They do everything according to conscience and justice !!!
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 22 June 2016 11: 01
          +3
          Barack Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean at once

          Feel free to ask, WHY ??? fool Are the Americans going to fight with us? And with what help are they going to close airspace if anything? They do not have decent electronic warfare systems, the air defense systems of comparable fraud with the S-400 are the same request And if they shove deck aircraft into our REB bubble, the planes will fall like flies without any missiles or air battles.
          In general, another obamosaskok, like a girl in "these days" lol
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 22 June 2016 13: 33
            +2
            Quote: GSH-18
            Are the Americans going to fight with us?


            Nobody needs a big war, but everyone needs a little one, but it’s necessary to dump everything produced on someone’s head
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          3. bocsman
            bocsman 22 June 2016 22: 08
            +1
            Quote: GSH-18
            Barack Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean at once

            Feel free to ask, WHY ??? fool Are the Americans going to fight with us? And with what help are they going to close airspace if anything? They do not have decent electronic warfare systems, the air defense systems of comparable fraud with the S-400 are the same request And if they shove deck aircraft into our REB bubble, the planes will fall like flies without any missiles or air battles.
            In general, another obamosaskok, like a girl in "these days" lol

            The funny thing in this situation is that you don't need any of the above, just a few "Calibers" from the Caspian Sea or from the Black Sea are enough!
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 22 June 2016 22: 26
              0
              Quote: bocsman
              The funny thing in this situation is that you don't need any of the above, just a few "Calibers" from the Caspian Sea or from the Black Sea are enough!

              Yes. I agree yes As an option with diesel-electric submarines "Rostov-on-Don".
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 22 June 2016 12: 37
          0
          Banana's mess just doesn't understand where you can stick your Aircraft Carriers and where you can't. The cruisers "Moskva" and "Varyag" will suit there and the American fervor will somehow diminish immediately lol
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 22 June 2016 13: 34
            +1
            Quote: GSH-18
            Banana just does not understand where you can stick your carriers and where not


            He fulfills the inexorable will of his masters. However, he is not alone
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 22 June 2016 21: 12
              0
              Quote: Vadivak
              He fulfills the inexorable will of his masters. However, he is not alone

              Where are these hosts? What are their names? Do you know them?
              Or do you mean various financial, production and oil lobbies? It seems to me that there the CIA and lobby advisers on the ears of the monkey crouched tightly. Presidents are changing, and the CIA is forever in America. request
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 22 June 2016 10: 53
        +1
        Earlier, British media reported that the VKS destroyed almost half of the pro-Western "New Syrian Army", which is supported by the United States and Great Britain.

        I dare to hope and the remaining half is not long left! am
        This tale about "good" terrorists has been cooked up for the Western public as a pretext for denigrating Russia's actions in the SAR.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 22 June 2016 13: 36
          +1
          Quote: GSH-18
          Mayu hope and the remaining half is not long left!

          You cannot be bloodthirsty.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 22 June 2016 21: 14
            0
            Quote: Vadivak
            You cannot be bloodthirsty.

            And who is the bloodthirsty here? Everything is white and fluffy here. repeat
      3. Orionvit
        Orionvit 22 June 2016 14: 49
        0
        “It’s good that Obama’s presidential term is just a few months away,” the publication notes.
        And that something will change? Since when did the president in the states shape the political course. So just a talking head, voices the orders of its owners. Well, the same Trump will come, and what, America will become white and fluffy?
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 22 June 2016 21: 20
          0
          Quote: Orionvit
          Well, the same Trump will come, and what, America will become white and fluffy?

          Wait and see. Let him come first.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 22 June 2016 09: 44
      +8
      If the Americans are nervous, it means that Russia in Syria is replaying them tactically and politically.
    4. KAV
      KAV 22 June 2016 10: 01
      +12
      And again, a complete lie from these sworn partners. At first, allegedly, their plane tried to contact ours. Now he allegedly flew off cheerfully, but did not have time, and our types got scared and dumped, and then cunningly returned and finished off the "warriors of light". And what is this "new Syrian army"? Wow! Yes, they, smart girls, just brilliantly outwitted everyone! They called all the same ghouls in a new way, and voila, the new Syrian army! Sounds like that!
      While we play with them in an agreement, the war in Syria will not stop ...
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 11: 11
      +1
      were not discontinued even after the US tried inform the Russian armed forces through appropriate channels

      Duc tried or all the same informed? These are different things!
    6. Shick
      Shick 22 June 2016 11: 52
      +1
      An article with a big title ..
      How many US military bases and political regimes loyal to them?
      Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar? most powerful players whose allies?
    7. obsudim7
      obsudim7 22 June 2016 19: 56
      0
      "The Russians showed the Americans who really is the OWNER in the Middle East" - this is the title of the article and the angle of discussion of what is happening there could only be given by a provocateur and a hat-thrower ... think about whether it is worth following the lead of such throwers and sinking to its level ... choice ... but also your face ..
  2. venzim
    venzim 22 June 2016 09: 00
    +4
    This is called the actions of the sovereign state of Russia!
  3. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 22 June 2016 09: 01
    +21
    According to the author of the article, "President Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean Sea in order to convey his point of view and hit himself in the chest in front of Russian President Vladimir Putin."
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 June 2016 09: 02
    +3
    Obama sent two aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean Sea to convey his point of view and hit yourself in the chest before Russian President Vladimir Putin. ”

    Obama's chest is weak, as if he had not broken his cardboard. They begin to understand that their red tape and an attempt to restrain the work of our videoconferencing do not give results, therefore, they twitch like in a hot frying pan.
    British media reported that videoconferencing destroyed almost half the pro-Western New Syrian Army, which is supported by the United States and Great Britain.

    This is wonderful and pleasing. The more destroyed there, the less chance they will get to Russia.
  5. gray smeet
    gray smeet 22 June 2016 09: 02
    +14
    It’s a matter of another war, the Turks will go to the slaughter ... The strengthening of Turkey is under the direct control of the United States, the Turks hire barmaley and cover them (now also from the air), these ghouls (USA) simply will not give Syria ...
    The situation in the sky of Syria was difficult, now it’s even more complicated and we have to hurry up - the situation is aggravating .. I wish our VKS success, they now need it even more.
  6. Wiruz
    Wiruz 22 June 2016 09: 03
    +11
    For some reason, this Washington Times forgot to mention that Russia is still the only country operating in Syria absolutely "legally". We didn't just fly there with a desire to bomb the militants we didn't like, we came at the invitation of the official Syrian government. Whether America likes Assad or not is their own business. But to complain that Russia with all its appearance shows how she ... wanted to twirl the opinion of the State Department, this ... this is low hi
    1. vinc
      vinc 22 June 2016 09: 38
      +1
      Earlier, British media reported that the VKS destroyed almost half of the pro-Western "New Syrian Army", which is supported by the United States and Great Britain.

      Come all one and a half people? No more anyway in the apposition
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 22 June 2016 10: 15
        +1
        Quote: Vinci
        Earlier, British media reported that the VKS destroyed almost half of the pro-Western "New Syrian Army", which is supported by the United States and Great Britain.

        Come all one and a half people? No more anyway in the apposition

        This is quite enough to show that the Yankees are not supplying weapons to ISIS, but to the New Syrian Army, although the opposite is true.
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 June 2016 09: 07
    0
    It's time to put the striped in place. This is not with the Indians on the prairies rushes you.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 June 2016 10: 01
      +10
      Quote: Ros 56
      It's time to put the striped in place. This is not with the Indians on the prairies rushes you.

      Let them get used)))
      The time of American political banditry is ending ...
  8. Evil 55
    Evil 55 22 June 2016 09: 09
    +1
    Reason is the only one who should be the master in the Middle East ..
  9. Siberian
    Siberian 22 June 2016 09: 11
    +11
    «Last week, an American F-18 aircraft tried to prevent Russian aircraft from attacking Syrian rebels supported by the United States. He did not succeed. Russian Su-34s hit the rebel positions, after which the American F-18 fighter was raised. "Russian bombers left the area, however, as soon as the F-18 went on refueling, they returned and dealt another blow." Yes, not for refueling, he flew away, just with su - 34 su -35 arrived. They would just say so. laughing
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 22 June 2016 09: 19
      +1
      Quote: Siberian
      Yes, not for refueling, he flew away, just with su - 34 su -35 arrived. laughing


      Is this verified information? If so, I will refer to it on other resources ...
    2. kos2910
      kos2910 22 June 2016 10: 24
      0
      just with su - 34 su -35 arrived.

      Yes nafig, the Su-34 will cope with the F-18 itself, it’s also a station wagon ...
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 11: 45
      0
      Quote: Siberian
      Yes, not for refueling, he flew away, just with su - 34 su -35 arrived. They would just say so.

      The Su-34 does not need fighter cover, as it is an MFI-class fighter-bomber. Only if the 34th is loaded with bombs to the eyeballs (max combat load 8 tons), then in this case it will be covered by the Su-30SM or Su-35S, which are also MFI (multifunctional fighter).
      Amersky F-18 is difficult to compare with modern representatives of the Sukhoi line. Probably, he dumped from there because of a lack of fuel (Su-34 can stay in the air without refueling for up to 6 hours!) And possibly by banal cowardice lol After all, there were just 34 more crying
      But no one has officially denied the presence of Su-30cm and Su-35S in the area! yes
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 22 June 2016 18: 23
        -1
        Quote: GSH-18
        and possibly banal cowardice lol After all, the 34s were just more crying


        What cowardice? Russia is at war with the USA? He tracked the bombing and left.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 22 June 2016 22: 07
          0
          Quote: The Cat
          What cowardice? Russia is at war with the USA? He tracked the bombing and left.

          The same as a couple of dozen who wrote a report on the dismissal of the sailors of the destroyer "Donald Cook" after a demonstration show of our naval aviation in the Black Sea.
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 22 June 2016 22: 50
            -1
            Quote: GSH-18
            Quote: The Cat
            What cowardice? Russia is at war with the USA? He tracked the bombing and left.

            The same as a couple of dozen who wrote a report on the dismissal of the sailors of the destroyer "Donald Cook" after a demonstration show of our naval aviation in the Black Sea.


            Do you really believe that?
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 22 June 2016 22: 42
          +1
          Quote: The Cat
          He tracked the bombing and left.

          According to your F-18 it should have been
          prevent Russian air strike against Syrian rebels
          ??
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 22 June 2016 22: 51
            -2
            Quote: GSH-18
            Quote: The Cat
            He tracked the bombing and left.

            According to your F-18 it should have been
            prevent Russian air strike against Syrian rebels
            ??



            Did he have such a task?
  10. 0255
    0255 22 June 2016 09: 18
    -3
    “Last week, an American F-18 aircraft tried to prevent Russian aircraft from attacking Syrian rebels supported by the United States. He did not succeed. Russian Su-34s hit the rebel positions, after which the American F-18 fighter was raised. Russian bombers left the zone, however, as soon as the F-18 went on refueling, they returned and delivered another blow, ”the newspaper Vzglyad quoted the text of the article.

    What would the Kremlin do if the Americans shot down a Su-34?
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 22 June 2016 09: 24
      +1
      Quote: 0255

      What would the Kremlin do if the Americans shot down a Su-34?


      The Americans will not be so substituted (for now), the Turks will do it for them (at this stage), and the United States will stand behind the puppets. The time has not yet come to fight - the US president should be replaced ....
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 June 2016 09: 25
      +8
      Quote: 0255
      What would the Kremlin do if the Americans shot down a Su-34?

      You apparently didn’t listen well to the head of our state, who clearly said that any aggression against our VKS and Navy by the military of another state will be regarded as a declaration of war.
      Now ask yourself, what American general wants to unleash a third world war by giving the order to destroy our bomber?
    3. kos2910
      kos2910 22 June 2016 10: 27
      +2
      Quote: 0255
      What would the Kremlin do if the Americans shot down a Su-34?

      Craving to check? Will do as it should, the rubekon is passed. Just no one rushes a big batch, as they can pull. The mattress covers will substitute the Turks, they themselves will not.
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: 0255
      What would the Kremlin do if the Americans shot down a Su-34?

      Well, at the very least, this F-18 would definitely not get to its airfield, at least.
      Who is forewarned is armed. Turkish "warning" played a cruel joke with the American Air Force lol
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 June 2016 22: 54
      +1
      Quote: 0255
      What would the Kremlin do if the Americans shot down a Su-34?

      Air-to-air missiles are put on the SU-34 after the downed SU-24 ... this time. Second: I believe the 34th did not fly to bomb without the cover of the same 30s or 35s. Third: the mattress pilot is not a kamikaze, knowing that in any case it was conducted by our S-400 air defense systems, as well as electronic warfare systems of the Krasukha-4 type (that is, to escape with impunity, even if he managed to shoot down our plane would not work). fourthly, after such an incident, both AUGs would quickly end up at the bottom. Why? Yes, because AUGs are strong in the open ocean, and not in the coastal zone, where our Black Sea Fleet has Onyx, Caliber (and not only surface ships), as well as the Mediterranean group, and with the close location of Crimea, where there is an air strike group in t Ohm number.
  11. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 June 2016 09: 21
    +4
    “Last week, an American F-18 aircraft tried to prevent Russian aircraft from attacking Syrian rebels supported by the United States. He did not succeed. Russian Su-34s hit the rebel positions, after which the American F-18 fighter was raised. "Russian bombers left the area, however, as soon as the F-18 went on refueling, they returned and dealt another blow."

    A thick hint at which bolt with left-hand thread our VKS twisted American concern.
  12. Dave36
    Dave36 22 June 2016 09: 22
    -1
    Nothing the Americans would do again in the back.
  13. alexey k
    alexey k 22 June 2016 09: 25
    0
    Sent 2 aaianosets ..... Obama decided to measure his Putin pussy? So in vain he will lose anyway))))
  14. sergey2017
    sergey2017 22 June 2016 09: 46
    +3
    Quote: silberwolf88
    Russia is running out of patience ... The difference between "good" and "bad" terrorists in Syria is only in the inflamed minds of representatives of the US State Department and they sang along from Europe ... All who do not comply with the ceasefire regime ... should be destroyed by the troops of Assad and The Russian Aerospace Forces ... The war has dragged on for too long ... it's time to end this mess ... firmly and clearly identifying priorities ... then the people of Syria will determine themselves how to live ...

    I completely agree! In addition to what has been said, the "pacified opposition" is cooperating with ISIS on the supply of American weapons, and they use the ceasefire to regroup their military formations!
  15. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 June 2016 10: 02
    -5
    How did the videoconferencing team missed ISIL’s powerful counter-offensive in the province of Raqqa yesterday?
    And they could not suppress ISIS armored vehicles, which attacked in the bare desert.
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 22 June 2016 10: 18
      +4
      request from the sofa and because of the keyboard this is not visible request
    2. Sarmat149
      Sarmat149 22 June 2016 10: 24
      +6
      Are you happy?
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 12: 44
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And they could not suppress ISIS armored vehicles, which attacked in the bare desert.

      And where to rush? Isis, say, in a bare desert? Well, today the Su-34 will sort it out.
      Excuse me, but who did they attack in the bare desert? Gophers? lol
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 22 June 2016 18: 28
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote: voyaka uh
        And they could not suppress ISIS armored vehicles, which attacked in the bare desert.

        And where to rush? Isis, say, in a bare desert? Well, today the Su-34 will sort it out.
        Excuse me, but who did they attack in the bare desert? Gophers? lol


        I will not say that the Aerospace Forces are to blame, but I agree with Voyaka that the reconnaissance has missed the offensive. The concentration of equipment and manpower missed, the attack of "as many as 3 tanks" in open terrain could not be repelled ...
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 22 June 2016 10: 12
    +2
    Our VKS needs to do its job, we are there legally,
    and more Syria did not invite anyone to her.
  17. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 June 2016 10: 17
    0
    This is all good news. Any American ideas are diametrically opposed to ours on the Syrian issue, so here the Americans can not do anything good in principle and offer them nothing but a stick in the wheel. For us, there are no moderate ones, there are those who support the ceasefire and observe, and there are those who need to be burned.
  18. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 22 June 2016 10: 24
    +1
    Americans are reminiscent of a character from the Litsedei theater scene, who constantly said "nizyayaya". it is clear that for them the best option is to have no RF Aerospace Forces in Syria at all ... but they are :)
  19. fn111
    fn111 22 June 2016 10: 54
    0
    More aircraft carriers (in the eastern Mediterranean) are good and different !!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 12: 51
      0
      Quote: fn111
      More aircraft carriers (in the eastern Mediterranean) are good and different !!

      The water area for the AUG is too small ... For the most part, the compound will be within the reach of the Khmeimim base aviation and the S-400 air defense system. Naturally, with air cover and target designation (thanks to our drills), the heavy missile cruisers Moskva and Varyag will pose an extremely high threat to the AUG.
      The transfer of aircraft carriers to the Mediterranean is a show for domestic American use. The balance of power in the region does not change this action.
  20. sa-ag
    sa-ag 22 June 2016 10: 56
    0
    A highly controversial statement or a desire to wishful thinking, if Syria stands out for the entire Middle East, is there really control over the situation there, especially in light of yesterday’s retreat from Raqqa?
  21. masiya
    masiya 22 June 2016 11: 20
    0
    Soon, these Amerov’s pelvis will not push in the Mediterranean Sea, refugees will start running from coast to coast along them ...
  22. iouris
    iouris 22 June 2016 11: 35
    -2
    The main thing is to show who really is the master in the Russian Federation, especially if the athletes at the Olympics will perform under the flag of the IOC.
  23. Wolka
    Wolka 22 June 2016 11: 43
    0
    it’s somehow so unobtrusive and without extra verbiage that you need to solve problems in Syria, otherwise this war will never end ...
  24. skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 22 June 2016 13: 24
    0
    Keep it up!
  25. Shuttle
    Shuttle 22 June 2016 14: 15
    +2
    These sponsors are so-called. The "oppositions" were driven into a logical corner when they asked only two questions:

    1. Where to bomb?

    2. Where not to bomb?

    They could not answer one. It was then that they at least lost the chance of victory. To say the least.
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 June 2016 14: 52
    +1
    No, but what? We are working, bringing peace to Syria, we are burying the bearded.
    And this is despite the howl of the "progressive public".
    Actually, let the Americans remember how they bombed Serbia, Vietnam, Iraq ...
    And also paying little attention to objections.
  27. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 22 June 2016 17: 14
    +1
    Practice tactics on the bearded.
  28. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 22 June 2016 18: 31
    -1
    “Last week, an American F-18 jet tried to prevent Russian aircraft from attacking US-backed Syrian rebels. He did not succeed. Russian Su-34s attacked rebel positions, after which an American F-18 fighter was raised. "

    Well, where's the PREVENTION of striking? F-18 rose AFTER attacking the Su-34. What nonsense.


    And even more nonsense, this is the title of the article. Does someone really believe that the current VKS group in Syria can oppose something to the air groups of 2 aircraft carriers?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 22 June 2016 21: 45
      +1
      Quote: The Cat
      Does someone really believe that the current VKS group in Syria can oppose something to the air groups of 2 aircraft carriers?

      With the Black Sea Fleet, with the Mediterranean squadron, with the S-400, Iskander and Crimea nearby ... EASY!
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 22 June 2016 22: 55
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: The Cat
        Does someone really believe that the current VKS group in Syria can oppose something to the air groups of 2 aircraft carriers?

        With the Black Sea Fleet, with the Mediterranean squadron, with the S-400, Iskander and Crimea nearby ... EASY!


        The Black Sea Fleet is immediately ruled out, since Turkey will block the straits by order.
        How many launchers on the S-400 in Syria? 8 ? 12 ? How much will he do with the included EW Americans and against Kharmov?
        According to Iskander, I will not say, but the Crimea is far away.

        I do not believe.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 June 2016 23: 10
          +1
          Quote: The Cat
          The Black Sea Fleet is immediately ruled out, since Turkey will block the straits by order.

          Are you sure? And what will it look like?
          Quote: The Cat
          How many launchers on the S-400 in Syria? 8 ? 12 ?

          I think more. And do not forget about Kraukha, Shell, and more.
          Quote: The Cat
          How much will he do with the included EW Americans and against Kharmov?

          And we don’t have electronic warfare at all? At the same time, I suppose the same F-18s will not very much want to communicate with our SU-30s and 35s ...
          Quote: The Cat
          According to Iskander, I will not say, but the Crimea is far away.

          Iskanders in Syria there is evidence of this photo ... and there is also nearby Armenia, where there is our contingent of troops with an air wing and the same Iskanders.
          Quote: The Cat
          Crimea is far away.

          To fly over the Russian Sea for super sonic bombers and fighters will not take much time.
          ACG is good in the open ocean, and not off the coast of an adversary who has a lot of means to drown her in a short time.
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 23 June 2016 22: 40
            -1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: The Cat
            The Black Sea Fleet is immediately ruled out, since Turkey will block the straits by order.

            Are you sure? And what will it look like?


            It will look bad. Instead of arguing, compare the current ships of the Black Sea Fleet with 2 AUG Americans. And to enhance the effect, add the Turkish fleet.

            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: The Cat
            How many launchers on the S-400 in Syria? 8 ? 12 ?

            I think more. And do not forget about Kraukha, Shell, and more.


            More? Are they stacked or something according to yours?

            Kraukha, this is not a SAM. Melee Shell It is unlikely that they will interfere heavily with aircraft carriers.

            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: The Cat
            How much will he do with the included EW Americans and against Kharmov?

            And we don’t have electronic warfare at all? At the same time, I suppose the same F-18s will not very much want to communicate with our SU-30s and 35s ...


            Do you even imagine the methods of combating the air defense of a potential enemy? Or do you think that the air of the SAM system should be bombed with free-fall bombs?

            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: The Cat
            According to Iskander, I will not say, but the Crimea is far away.

            Iskanders in Syria there is evidence of this photo ... and there is also nearby Armenia, where there is our contingent of troops with an air wing and the same Iskanders.


            Are you going to beat the Iskander aircraft carriers? And how many combat aircraft in Armenia?

            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: The Cat
            Crimea is far away.

            To fly over the Russian Sea for super sonic bombers and fighters will not take much time.
            ACG is good in the open ocean, and not off the coast of an adversary who has a lot of means to drown her in a short time.


            Are you going to attack with "supersonic bombers" AUG? Do you recall the composition of AUG?
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 22 June 2016 22: 24
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      Quote: The Cat
      Does someone really believe that the current VKS group in Syria can oppose something to the air groups of 2 aircraft carriers?

      Dear, in Syria we have, so to speak, a complete set.
      After all, there are not only airplanes there, there are also electronic warfare systems and S-400 air defense systems, it is quite possible that there are also containerized "Caliber" missile strike systems, for example.
      Carriers are not designed to operate in such conditions. Strictly speaking, AUG is a marine tool of the ocean zone. Amerikozi got along, taking advantage of the backwardness of their own opponents, to push them to the shore and hollow carrier-based aircraft. In the case of our base in the SAR, it will not be rented. The Americans are very fond of their aircraft carriers and understand what it means for them.
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 22 June 2016 22: 58
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        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote: The Cat
        Does someone really believe that the current VKS group in Syria can oppose something to the air groups of 2 aircraft carriers?

        Dear, in Syria we have, so to speak, a complete set.
        After all, there are not only airplanes there, there are also electronic warfare systems and S-400 air defense systems, it is quite possible that there are also containerized "Caliber" missile strike systems, for example.


        I served on the S-300 PM. The most modern of the 300s. The S-300 has no chance with a massive use of electronic warfare, anti-radar missiles and a massive attack / strike. I don’t know how far the S-400 has gone, but the group in Syria cannot cope with 2 AUGs. Shit yes, but it is unlikely to cope.
  29. Aristide
    Aristide 23 June 2016 15: 43
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    The US military will become impudent, trying to "cover" with their thin breasts the militants under their control. So it’s not far from a clash with our Aerospace Forces. Apparently, the moment of truth is coming when the Russian pilots should teach the Americans a lesson so that they would not get into our actions.