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The Chinese Air Force received the first Y-20 transporter

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PLAC Air Force received the first production Y-20 transport aircraft, the blog reports Yuri Lyamina.




“Judging by the number 11051, the first new Chinese military transport aircraft Yun-20 received the 4th aviation Air Force Transport Division of the People's Liberation Army of China. According to rumors, at least two vehicles under the numbers 12 and 4 were transferred to the 11051th regiment of the 11053th division, but so far there are more or less clear photos of this one only, ” - writes Lyamin.





The Chinese Air Force received the first Y-20 transporter
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  1. Samen
    Samen 17 June 2016 11: 42
    +11
    The contours resemble the legendary 76th ... Another Chinese reprint?
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 17 June 2016 11: 47
      +8
      Quote: Semen
      The contours resemble the legendary 76th ... Another Chinese reprint?

      In my opinion, this is IL-76 and even with our PS-90 engines or whatever ...
      1. alekc75
        alekc75 17 June 2016 11: 50
        +7
        there is no il another and the engines are not ps-90
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 17 June 2016 11: 55
          0
          Quote: alekc75
          there is no il another and the engines are not ps-90

          Can I find out the name of the engine and where is it produced?
        2. BilliBoms09
          BilliBoms09 17 June 2016 11: 57
          +2
          The PLA Air Force received the first serial transport aircraft Y-20
          As they say, find ten differences from the IL-76. winked
      2. Stalker.1977
        Stalker.1977 17 June 2016 12: 11
        +7
        here is s-17
        1. Stalker.1977
          Stalker.1977 17 June 2016 12: 13
          +14
          but silt 76 in my opinion the Chinese have a cocktail with more American
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 17 June 2016 12: 17
            +6
            The stalker closed the question of copying IL-76. Without further ado and clearly.
            Yes, and on C-17, too.
            Just look at the junction of the wing and body. The C-17 has a completely different glider.
      3. ARES623
        ARES623 17 June 2016 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: Muvka
        In my opinion, this is IL-76 and even with our PS-90 engines or whatever ...

        The same IL-76, and even the Russian-made D-30 engines, with the subsequent transition to the same D-30, only Chinese-made. Most likely that with remote control mechanization and a digital cab.
    2. Altona
      Altona 17 June 2016 11: 49
      +1
      Quote: Semen
      The contours resemble the legendary 76th ... Another Chinese reprint?

      -------------------
      It turns out I don’t have only one deja vu ...
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 17 June 2016 11: 52
      +12
      No, this is C-17 Globmaster with elements of IL-76.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 17 June 2016 11: 55
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        No, this is C-17 Globmaster with elements of IL-76.

        Well yes, there is no glazing below) A huge difference.
      2. ARES623
        ARES623 17 June 2016 18: 02
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        No, this is C-17 Globmaster with elements of IL-76.

        Tell me please, how was it determined? By performance characteristics ?, Have you visited the "guts" of all three and found similarities? The S-17 and Il-76 are quite different from each other, but these differences are more in the quality of the electronic filling, the ergonomics of workplaces and many other things, well, approximately, like $ 30 million and $ 316 million. smile
    4. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 June 2016 12: 01
      +4
      Quote: Semen
      The contours resemble the legendary 76th ... Another Chinese reprint?


      The laws of aerodynamics, probably. I feel inside even telphers 1 in 1, like the 76th. Divorced, you know, 1.5bn. rogues at your side. They steal and steal.
    5. iouris
      iouris 17 June 2016 12: 04
      +4
      Any similarities are accidental.
    6. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 17 June 2016 17: 29
      +1
      Quote: Semen
      The contours resemble the legendary 76th ... Another Chinese reprint?

      Not really. This is another Chinese fun: "blind chimera from several famous cars".
      Nose - Antonovsky.
      The tail section is "Globemaster".
      The "hump" of the center section is Ilyushinsky.
  2. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 17 June 2016 11: 43
    +9
    It seems to me alone that this is a mixture of Hercules and IL 76? And well done Chinese.
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    2. donavi49
      donavi49 17 June 2016 11: 54
      +10
      No, they were inspired by C-17 and at the same time dismantled the drawings of IL-76.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 17 June 2016 17: 07
        +2
        Well, yes, the tail is from the American, the wing is from Sludge ... The engines seem to be ours too.
  3. CORNET
    CORNET 17 June 2016 11: 43
    +6
    China is quietly rearming ... So far we are confronting the West alone.! Oh, your Chinese cunning will destroy you ... hi
  4. Taygerus
    Taygerus 17 June 2016 11: 54
    +1
    but what is Chinese in it? there, in my opinion, a whole vinaigrette
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 June 2016 12: 14
    +5
    If airplanes are created according to similar TK, then the design is similar. The laws of sapromat cannot be fooled. As an example, B1 and Tu160. f-15 and su-27.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 17 June 2016 16: 53
      -4
      Su-27 i srisovali s F-15 ... Pravda zdes nikto etogo * ne zamecaet * ...
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 17 June 2016 17: 35
        +1
        Quote: Karlovar
        Su-27 i srisovali s F-15 ... Pravda zdes nikto etogo * ne zamecaet * ...

        Su-27 could be similar to the F-15 except in the very first versions. Then the tracks parted. Ours initially focused on close combat and put maneuverability at the forefront.
        In addition, the first version of Sukhoi's new fighter, which had reached iron, was cut down in the bud due to a shortage of technical characteristics. And KB had to re-make a new car - T-10S.
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 17 June 2016 18: 18
        0
        Quote: Karlovar
        Su-27 i srisovali s F-15 ... Pravda zdes nikto etogo * ne zamecaet * ...

        F-15 on the MiG-25 looks more like that. At least some air intakes in shape and location
        1. pilot67
          pilot67 17 June 2016 19: 39
          0
          That’s for sure. It was the Mig who was stolen to Japan. It was disassembled and collected later. And the best practices resulted in f 15
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 17 June 2016 20: 01
            0
            Mig was hijacked to Japan in 1976, and the F15 first flight in 1972
            1. pv1005
              pv1005 18 June 2016 07: 04
              0
              Quote: BlackMokona
              Mig was hijacked to Japan in 1976, and the F15 first flight in 1972

              For some, this is unprincipled. The first flight of the MiG-25 in 1964
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 June 2016 12: 15
    +6
    Our engines D-30KP-2, 11.7 tons of thrust. At the 76's are the same. But this one is heavier, and the thrust-weight ratio is higher.
    Of course, they are going to put their own, which, of course, will be better than the world ... But for now - this is a hybrid. Elephant with a kettle.
    1. ARES623
      ARES623 17 June 2016 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Of course, they are going to put their own, which, of course, will be better than the world ...

      "Svoi" is the same D-30, only made in China.
  7. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 17 June 2016 12: 56
    +1
    But the D-30 is rather weak. In terms of dimensions, it corresponds to an elongated IL-76, and PS-90 are on it. Here are the options for the Chinese comrades: put a copy of our D-30, buy a PS-90, put a western engine.
  8. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 17 June 2016 13: 01
    +2
    I can’t say that the Chinese aircraft-vinigred is better than our IL-76. They’ll sit side by side in Zhukovsky at MAKS, then it will be possible to look for differences inside and out. And so - similar, of course, not without it. However, it’s difficult to come up with something absolutely innovative in military transport aviation. After all, how are they? Take more - fly further, everything is built only on this principle.
  9. Nross
    Nross 17 June 2016 14: 46
    0
    Gentlemen, you forgot about An-148. If you look closely, the attachment of the wings to the fuselage is organized just like on the annushka:

    I believe that the project turned out to be very international: Russian Ily and Ana + Douglass.
  10. 52
    52 17 June 2016 15: 59
    0
    A normal plane, which is already there. If, with the same jerkers as on Ila, the performance is higher, then the Chinese have quite normally tasted the aerodynamics, and possibly the composites. There are no copies there, wrinkled something, it’s easier and more honest to admit that China is quite powerful aviation power. Yes, and well done, they made a plane for their specific needs.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 17 June 2016 17: 00
      -1
      Narodu by nado zavidovat molca .., bez bryzg .... No ... zavist bolno silnoe i razruschajusee psihiku cuvstvo ... i soprotivljatsja emu trudno ...
  11. Coffin Cross1
    Coffin Cross1 17 June 2016 16: 40
    -2
    Mikhalkov on the possibility of a future war with China. Victory is not ours ...
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 17 June 2016 17: 38
      0
      Mihalkov govorit o soverschenno drugom ..., vovse ne o vozmoznosti vojny s KNR ... Ne ulovili ??????
  12. Mentat
    Mentat 17 June 2016 17: 54
    0
    Quote: Karlovar
    Narodu by nado zavidovat molca .., bez bryzg .... No ... zavist bolno silnoe i razruschajusee psihiku cuvstvo ... i soprotivljatsja emu trudno ...

    Are you raving or something? What to envy? This aircraft was copied by whole easily recognizable units and parts of the airframe. There are no own engines. Where is the reason for any feeling at all? The product is extremely utilitarian: stolen, glued to fly; no reason for pride, nor envy, nor for anything but solving problems with the least effort.

    By the way, your transliteration reflects one of three things: your laziness, ignorance, or lack of culture. There are sites for translating translations to Cyrillic, do not force people to read this pile of letters.
  13. BARMEN628651
    BARMEN628651 17 June 2016 21: 47
    0
    Reminds the case from an 70 and engine mounts from 76 silt
  14. Mentat
    Mentat 17 June 2016 22: 18
    -1
    Quote: Coffin Cross1
    Mikhalkov on the possibility of a future war with China. Victory is not ours ...

    What are you listening to? Mikhalkov did not speak about the possibility of war with China, but about corruption, about "creeping economic expansion." He read out a summary of the script of the film, which he was asked to shoot, which he refused, explaining why.

    Is it enough for you to say the phrase "Chinese aggression" and you fall into prostration? Or are you intentionally trying to lie here, confirming just the thesis from Mikhalkov’s program that they are trying to convince us drop by drop of our worthlessness and powerlessness? Well then come out, howled overseas.
    1. Coffin Cross1
      Coffin Cross1 18 June 2016 18: 18
      0
      Well, what are you so messed up ?! On, listen to the grandfather from Altai. Maybe brains will work.
  15. Gronsky
    Gronsky 17 June 2016 22: 30
    0
    Quote: Pereira
    Just look at the junction of the wing and body. The C-17 has a completely different glider.

    The center section is more like Antonov cars. Keel and stabilizer - definitely a Boeing.
    The normal Chinese approach, a kind of picky genetic mix. hi
  16. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 18 June 2016 02: 53
    +1
    They wanted to create a C-17, but "I blinded him out of what was." And there were IL-76 and Perm engines.
    By the way, for PS-90 engines. The Americans have pulled out everything that is possible from our brains. And then they bought the rights to the production of PS-90A2 in 2014 ... Who, then, is our rule? Gorbachev! Right! Who cares? There have always been sanctions against Russia. From 1918 to the present day.
    The Chinese ... when they choose the last from us that they could not do on their own, they, unlike the Americans, will not buy anything, but simply beat us with hoes, like the Pol Pot warriors of their compatriots. The people are extremely rational. They can also process canned food.
  17. Mentat
    Mentat 18 June 2016 20: 06
    0
    Quote: Coffin Cross1
    Well, what are you so messed up ?! On, listen to the grandfather from Altai. Maybe brains will work.

    Any pensioner on the video can convince you of anything? Something in this case there are doubts about the work of the brain.
    Who is this, an analyst, an expert on China, a specialist in special services? How old are you, lover, that you are so naive?