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Is the Russian MiG-35 ready to fight American F-22 and F-35? (The National Interest, USA)

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Is the Russian MiG-35 ready to fight American F-22 and F-35? (The National Interest, USA)



The Mikoyan MiG-35 Fulcrum - F will be ready for test flights in the 2017 year, while deliveries to Russian aerospace forces will begin in the 2018 year.

Flight tests of the MiG-29 fighter - they were originally scheduled for this summer - were postponed due to delays in production.

“Under the contract with the Ministry of Defense on the MiG-35, development work is ongoing,” said the head of the Directorate of Military Programs aviation United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) Vladimir Mikhailov in an interview with the correspondent of the TASS agency located in Moscow. “They come with a slight lag behind the schedule due to the fault of cooperation enterprises delaying the supply of components, but we can say that in general this problem is being solved.”

However, the Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation MiG, which is part of the KLA, seems to intend to catch up. “We are catching up with the schedule,” said Mikhailov. “In the 2017, the very short-term tests of the machine will take place, since its prototype has already been tested many times. In 2018, the aircraft will begin to enter the VKS (Aerospace Forces). ”

At the same time, the Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation MiG, which is part of the UAC, has not yet signed a contract for the production of aircraft with the Russian Ministry of Defense. This will be done only after completion of the test. However, the Russian air force had previously declared its readiness to purchase the first batch of MiG-35 fighters in the number of 37 units. The aircraft will be ready for operational use in the 2020 year.

The MiG-35 is an upgraded version of the MiG-29. Although the airframe does not differ from previous versions, the aircraft received practically new equipment. Compared with the original version, the MiG-35 is equipped with a completely new electrical remote control system, it has a lighter airframe, more spacious fuel tanks, more efficient engines, and nozzles with thrust vector-controlled engines. In addition, the Russians developed single and double versions of the aircraft, while maintaining the same external contour to achieve maximum unification.

More importantly, the MiG-35 has a completely new avionics package. The upgraded fighter will be equipped with the first Russian developed for fighters onboard radar with a phased array called the "Beetle-ME". This radar is able to detect targets the size of a fighter at a distance of more than 150 kilometers (more than 85 nautical miles).

The MiG-35 will also be equipped with a unique optical-location station (OLS), which is a passive electro-optical sensor operating in both visual mode and in the infrared range. Russians believe that the sensor will be useful in the fight against such aircraft with a system of reduced visibility as F-22 and F-35. The MiG-35 will also receive a powerful installation of electronic warfare - this is precisely the area where the Russians have achieved brilliant successes.

The Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation MiG - it is under the auspices of the United Aircraft Building Corporation, like its main competitor, Sukhoi - hopes to reclaim some of the past glory of the Mikoyan design bureau using an upgraded version of the MiG-29. These fighters, developed by the Russian Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation MiG, in the aftermath of the collapse of the Soviet Union were in the shadow of a larger and more powerful Su-27. Perhaps the MiG-35 is the last hope of the RSK -MiG on the return of the part of the lost share in the international fighter market.
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  1. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 13 June 2016 15: 45
    +22
    Dave Majumdar ... How, he got it! Super, ass, analyst ... belay Worse than Zadornov! Although, what could be worse ...?! PETROSYAN!
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 13 June 2016 15: 50
      +1
      What's the difference.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 13 June 2016 22: 51
        -15%
        The Russian air force previously announced its readiness to acquire the first batch of 35 MiG-37 fighters.

        Better to get another fifteen to twenty T-50s, or Su-35, than this:
        MiG-35 is a modernized version of the MiG-29

        Right now, the Migovites will stick pluses on him, so that they can get closer to the fifth generation lol
        Perhaps the MiG-35 is the last hope of RSK-MiG to return part of the lost share in the international fighter market.

        No, MIG employees still perform maintenance and repair of our Soviet aircraft fleet and aircraft fleets of other countries. That is what they mainly feed on. And so, the battle for the 5th generation, they miserably lost to the "Sukhoi", and the concept of a fighter pair safely sunk into oblivion. Therefore, all these throwing of the Mikoyanovsky Design Bureau are associated with the inability to find a niche in their homeland. In my opinion, the MiG-35 is a parody of the Su-30, Su-35, which are superior in all respects.
        1. tomket
          tomket 14 June 2016 00: 01
          +13
          Quote: GSH-18
          and the concept of a fighter couple has safely sunk into oblivion.

          Who told you this?
          Quote: GSH-18
          In my opinion, Mig-35 is a parody of Su-30, Su-35, which surpass it in all respects.

          The MiG-35 is primarily the development of the MiG-29M. Which appeared much earlier than the Su-35.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 14 June 2016 00: 08
            -10%
            Quote: tomket
            The MiG-35 is primarily the development of the MiG-29M. Which appeared much earlier than the Su-35.

            And the bow and arrows appeared much earlier than the Mig-29. Will we upgrade them?
            Quote: tomket
            Who told you this?

            Have you flown into space? The 5th generation of fighter aircraft, and before that the creation of Multifunctional fighters. Su-30, Su-35 and T-50, you know those?
            1. tomket
              tomket 14 June 2016 00: 21
              +14
              Quote: GSH-18
              And the bow and arrows appeared much earlier than the Mig-29. Will we upgrade them?

              MiG-29 and Su-27 peers. Your comment is not clear to me.
              Quote: GSH-18
              5-th generation of fighter aircraft, and before that the creation of multi-functional fighters. Su-30, Su-35 and T-50, you know those?

              For some reason, the Americans do not forget about the modernization of the f-16, along with the f-15. and f-35 they are considered a light fighter, in addition to the heavy f-22. Apparently you have some kind of own concept in your head. By the way. The presence of 5 and almost identical modifications of the SU in service, is nothing more than the lobbyism of two plants, and not some kind of concept of multifunctional ones there.
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 14 June 2016 00: 30
                +1
                Quote: tomket
                MiG-29 and Su-27 are the same age. Your comment is not clear to me

                Su-27, even after modernization, remains the Su-27. And since the moment-29 there are "wonderful" transformations in the moment-35 lol Therefore, in recent years, the front-line fighters of the "Su" brand have entered the Air Force.
                Quote: tomket
                For some reason, the Americans do not forget about the modernization of the f-16, along with the f-15. and f-35 u

                We are not Americans, we just do not have so many babos. That's why we need a compact Air Force consisting of advanced aircraft.
                1. tomket
                  tomket 14 June 2016 00: 44
                  +19
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Su-27 even after modernization remains Su-27.

                  Su-27K has become miraculously su-33. Well, then. Innovative machine. Lots of ideas. Almost new design has little in common with the Su-27.
                  Su-xnumx, which is UB, which later became su-xnumx. Also, after all, a completely new machine that has no analogues.
                  Su-Xnumx which is the ship's UB, which later became Su-Xnumx and Su-Xnumx. Well, here God himself ordered a new name. By the way, f-27 e did not begin to be renamed to f-32 for example.
                  Su-xnumx which is su-xnumx. Super-maneuverability and should have a different name. And how do you like?
                  Su-27 which is su-37 which is "Terminator". What did you say about PR?
                  And finally, the Su-27 with the Irbis, which has become the Su-35 BM, even visually shows that this is an absolutely new aircraft that has nothing to do with the progenitor of the Su-27.
                  1. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 14 June 2016 01: 04
                    -8
                    Quote: tomket
                    Su-27K -was miraculously su-33

                    The example is negligible. Su-33 is the shipborne version of the Su-27. Remind me how many of them were produced for Kuznetsov, if he can load only 24 aircraft, and this is not necessarily a Su-33.
                    Quote: tomket
                    Su-27 which is the ship’s UB, which later became the Su-32 and Su-34

                    What??? belay This is not even a comment on hunting. Tighten and look, even though the pictures of the Su-27 and Su-34 are two different, even externally, aircraft.
                    And Su-32 is just the name of the export version of Su-34.
                    Quote: tomket
                    And finally, the Su-27 with the Irbis, which has become the Su-35 BM, even visually shows that this is an absolutely new aircraft that has nothing to do with the progenitor of the Su-27.

                    Of course you can see. But if you do not see this, this does not mean that this is not.
                    You should at least watch a couple of films about YouTube about the T-50 and Su-35, for general development, so that you don’t write such pearls lol Throw you a link?
                    1. tomket
                      tomket 14 June 2016 01: 14
                      +9
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      The example is void. Su-33 ship version of Su-27.

                      Why is it insignificant? There is the name Su-33, instead of the original Su-27k. The quantity does not matter. MiG-29act and stayed K by the way. Is there a sin? There is.
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Su-27 and Su-34

                      Swollen cab and enlarged tail boom. All the differences.
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      And Su-32 is just the name of the export version of Su-34.

                      How much did the Su-32 take to export?
                      Quote: GSH-18
                      Of course you can see. But if you do not see this, this does not mean that this is not.

                      Like in a fairy tale. And the king is naked ...
                      1. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 14 June 2016 01: 29
                        -4
                        Quote: tomket
                        Swollen cab and enlarged tail boom. All the differences.

                        You need to get a job as an expert for a moment good
                        Quote: tomket
                        How much did the Su-32 take to export?

                        Remind me when he appeared? That's it.
                        And then, the export version has the right to have a different digital designation from the manufacturer. Since it is assembled and assembled at the request of the customer. In fact, this is another aircraft designed for operation in the Air Force of another army.
                        Quote: tomket
                        Like in a fairy tale. And the king is naked ...

                        Apparently, you are a devoted adherent of the Mikoyan Design Bureau aircraft. That's your business. But you know, there was a time when Sony was considered the benchmark of the world's electronics manufacturer .. So, with a "moment", time has passed.
                      2. tomket
                        tomket 14 June 2016 01: 42
                        +7
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        You need to get a job as an expert for a moment

                        I would gladly.
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Remind me when he appeared? That's it.

                        In the year 1994, if memory serves, I saw his photographs in "Technics-Youth". Well, maybe in 1996.
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        And then, the export version has the right to have a different digital designation from the manufacturer.

                        Well, yes, Sukhoi often sinned this, different Su-20, Su-22 there ....
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        In fact, this is another plane,

                        And how did the Su-20 radically differ from the su-17?
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        You are a devoted follower of the Mikoyan design bureau.

                        I don’t understand, why simply spread rot products of one company, when the products of the second are essentially no different?
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        So with "a moment", the time has passed.

                        Thanks to Poghosyan, not only MiG took time. Although by and large he was a scavenger on the corpse of our killed aircraft industry
                      3. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 14 June 2016 02: 12
                        -3
                        Quote: tomket
                        I don’t understand, why simply spread rot products of one company, when the products of the second are essentially no different?

                        Great question! good
                        There was no thought of "spread rot". It's just that Sukhoi has already produced what the RF Air Force required. And you yourself answer it, if the Air Force already has the necessary aircraft, then why would they still have the same, only Mikoyan's? request
                        Quote: tomket
                        Thanks to Poghosyan, not only MiG took time. Although by and large he was a scavenger on the corpse of our killed aircraft industry

                        And in my opinion, Poghosyan simply did not chew snot and did not squander specialists and production. This is the result of a line of excellent multi-functional fighters led by the T-50, which have already entered the arsenal of our VKS and are selling well around the world. Why did the Migovites not do all this? Bad dancer .. well, you know how it goes lol
                      4. igor.borov775
                        igor.borov775 14 June 2016 06: 10
                        +13
                        Hi!! Do not drive horses. Combat work of the aerospace forces in Syria shows that you need to have a light car. Driving heavy vehicles 200-350 km is very expensive. You need a medium-sized car. In principle, this is a MIGA niche. The problem is there is no way they can offer a worthy replacement for front-line aviation. This is really sad. Remember throwing, this one is needed after there is no other. The Syrian experience is beginning to slowly put everything in its place. And the throwing was not so wide. We all see that there is a normal sequencing of the requirements of what is really needed. This is good. We basically still have a new one T-50 machine. Everything else touched those same 80s of the early 90s.
                      5. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 14 June 2016 20: 37
                        -2
                        Quote: igor.borov775
                        VKS combat work in Syria shows that you need to have a light car

                        Where does it show ??? Not a single "instant" was taken to Syria, this is really an indicator! The powerful multifunctional Sukhoi Su-30 and Su-35 fighters did an excellent job.
                        It is better to keep Su planes in the air than to litter the airfield with more frequent landings and less cargo-carrying "flares". I hope this is clear?
                      6. Urfin
                        Urfin 15 June 2016 10: 14
                        +2
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Where does it show ??? Not a single "instant" was taken to Syria, this is really an indicator! The powerful multifunctional Sukhoi Su-30 and Su-35 fighters did an excellent job.


                        Maybe they took them in order to test the new adopted vehicles. What do you think? But there are no new twigs except ship ones.

                        The Su-30 did just fine, no one argues. But maybe a lighter and cheaper car could do it too, but for less. So why pay more?
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 14 June 2016 02: 02
              -6
              Quote: tomket
              The quantity does not matter. MiG-29ktak and remained By the way.

              Come on! As usual, he mimicked in the instant-29cube, by screwing the second bench into one cabin lol
              And Su-27k renamed when? Pralo! In the dashing 90.
              Quote: tomket
              su-37 which is "Terminator". What did you say about PR?

              Oooh, my friend, eco carried you .. These are concept aircraft, on the 37th at the beginning there was a front tail, and new engines were pushed there with electronics. You will also cite the Su-47 "Berkut" as an example, and say that it is no different from the Su-27, you think, a forward-swept wing lol
              And the T-50 is generally one hundred percent Su-27, well, it’s no different.
            3. igor.borov775
              igor.borov775 14 June 2016 06: 20
              0
              You are mistaken. His closest relative is SU-35.
            4. GSH-18
              GSH-18 14 June 2016 20: 41
              0
              Quote: igor.borov775
              You are mistaken. His closest relative is SU-35.

              You are mistaken. This balalaika from flashing lights for the SU-35 is not a relative.
          2. tomket
            tomket 14 June 2016 09: 30
            +2
            Quote: GSH-18
            in a moment, 29cube, by screwing the second bench into one cabin

            I’m talking about changing the index, and you are talking about the bench. Tell me, where did the MiG-29 and MiG-29 K / CUB change the digital designation?
            Quote: GSH-18
            And Su-27k renamed when? Pralo! In the dashing 90.

            Is that your excuse?
            Quote: GSH-18
            These are concept aircraft, at the 37th, at the beginning, the front empennage was, and new engines were stuck there with electronics. You will also cite the Su-47 "Berkut" as an example, and say that it is no different from the Su-27, you think, a forward-swept wing

            Aircraft concepts are usually denoted by other letters, for example as C-37, which is Su-47. Since I’m not sure that the name Su-47 was not appropriated by cunning zhurnalyugi, I did not cite it as an example.
  • dima mzk
    dima mzk 14 June 2016 06: 24
    -3
    don’t comment on what you don’t know! F-15 is the same as our Su-27, and F-15, like the MIG-29. F_15 light))) the F-22 has a slightly higher take-off weight
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 14 June 2016 03: 42
    -1
    Quote: tomket
    The MiG-35 is primarily the development of the MiG-29M. Which appeared much earlier than the Su-35.

    And can you explain why we need the Mig-35 (which is the Mig-29) if our defense industry is now producing MFI Dry-class fighters (multifunctional fighter) and our T-50 is being prepared for delivery to the aerospace forces? What will this 35th moment do? What place of our doctrine to put it in? So, for the collection, was Schaub? To be adopted, the 35th must comply with the doctrine, and the statement of work of the RF Ministry of Defense. In the meantime, neither the first nor the second is what to talk about? Well, the Migovites will move it for export, where else? request
    1. The stranger
      The stranger 14 June 2016 04: 20
      +2
      Because less and cheaper.
      1. Papandopulo
        Papandopulo 14 June 2016 06: 18
        -2
        Those MiGs on which there are "gills" can fly from unpaved strips. There is essentially nothing more.
        http://topwar.ru/64207-v-teni-bolshogo-brata-o-protivostoyanii-mig-29-i-su-27.ht
        ml
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 14 June 2016 20: 46
        +1
        Quote: Alien
        Because less and cheaper.

        Smaller and cheaper is not a criterion for combat capabilities. And then, about cheaper, look at the cost and then write.
        1. The stranger
          The stranger 15 June 2016 01: 15
          +4
          I tried to call Mig about the price - for some reason they did not answer. So I don’t know. Can you voice the prices?

          Smaller and cheaper, however, is a very fundamental criterion for both combat capabilities and the estate in general. In other words, again combat capabilities.
          For comparison. We had five MiG-25Rs based in the very northeastern end of the country, the Tolbukhin airfield (now Dobrich). They constantly annoyed Yugoslavia by performing training flights. Taking off, without gaining a nominal altitude, just trying not to touch the farthest border, we lay down in a left turn, but often touched. The Serbs understood and did not sneeze, but this does not mean that at all times, everywhere you need to have combat aircraft the size of a passenger, because they have "greater combat capabilities." Sometimes it means that they have less of them.
          Another example. Four Mig-25 provides air defense / missile defense in the Arctic Circle, on the territory of 100 square kilometers. Having an aerobatic maneuvering zone in 000 time zones. The whole territory of my country is 11 square kilometers. The entire Balkan theater is half a million square kilometers. To me from my capital, to the Mediterranean Sea, and mean complete domination over everything - seven rivers. Just spit, by the standards of Zhukov, say. So I don’t need the Death Star, I need to solve a really sane task, because World Domination is basically beyond my power.

          Maybe I'm confusing, but I read your articles about guns. Liked it. Write better about what you know, I will be grateful.
    2. tomket
      tomket 14 June 2016 09: 33
      +1
      Quote: GSH-18
      if our defense industry is now producing MFI dry-class fighters (multi-functional fighter) and our T-50 is preparing for delivery to the aerospace forces?

      But what about all this breakthrough for us practically the same type of Su based on su-27, if the T-50 is approaching? Sho b Bulo? That's the same with the MiG. What would the plants load, as is the case with Su /
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 14 June 2016 20: 48
        -1
        Quote: tomket
        That's the same with the MiG. What would the plants load, as is the case with Su /

        Obviously the worst aircraft ?? Great state approach lol
        1. tomket
          tomket 15 June 2016 00: 18
          +1
          Quote: GSH-18
          Obviously the worst aircraft ?? Great state approach

          Well, you bring this to Serdyukov and Shoigu. After all, they buy Mi-28 and Su-30М2, which are obviously worse than Ka-50 and Su-30СМ, but they take them so that the plants do not stand idle.
          1. Rust0626
            Rust0626 16 June 2016 10: 51
            +1
            I agree.
            If the MiG is bent, Russia will not get better from this. The development of technology should go in several ways, otherwise we will lag behind, as always.
  • dima mzk
    dima mzk 14 June 2016 06: 11
    +1
    why compare light and heavy? what a parody? different tasks and goals! Su for domination, MIG for maneuver combat
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 14 June 2016 20: 55
      -3
      Quote: dima mzk
      why compare light and heavy? what a parody? different tasks and goals! Su for domination, MIG for maneuver combat

      Act Dear! With the advent of the IFI era, the doctrine of a fighter couple died forever. Forget and don’t remember.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 13 June 2016 23: 06
    -9
    Is the Russian MiG-35 ready to fight the American F-22 and F-35?

    The answer is a no brainer. NO not ready!
    By the fact that such a combat unit (instant-35) does not exist in nature! R&D has not been completed yet. And how much did they release him there? One, two test specimens?
    I think it’s not necessary anymore. Better, the MiG-31s ​​in the Air Force and Air Defense are riveted and delivered. This machine they did not turn out badly. Real fighters are best left to the true leader KB "Sukhoi" yes
    1. tomket
      tomket 14 June 2016 00: 03
      +6
      Quote: GSH-18
      By the fact that such a combat unit (instant-35) does not exist in nature! R&D has not been completed yet. And how much did they release him there? One, two test specimens?

      By your logic, the T-50 does not exist in nature. How many were released there? 6 pcs? Same amount to me ...
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 14 June 2016 00: 24
        -2
        Quote: tomket
        By your logic, the T-50 does not exist in nature.

        By my logic, and most importantly, the logic of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the T-50 is in terms of procurement for the VKS, it has long gone through R&D, the creation of weapons for it, factory tests and is now undergoing military test operation! Note this is a 5th generation airplane. And now let's see what the migrants have? Ouch! No 5th generation and close belay , and there is an old glider from the Soviet still Mig-29, into which they stuffed some kind of electronics, the effectiveness of which no one has tested, repainted and wrote on board "Mig-35" request And it is positioned as a breakthrough! Just what and where, the Migovites themselves really can’t explain. But the PR company is as if they made a starship laughing
        1. tomket
          tomket 14 June 2016 00: 35
          +4
          Quote: GSH-18
          Ouch!

          Well, you are so worried))))
          Quote: GSH-18
          There is no 5 generation close

          You didn’t notice, but the main package of orders of the Moscow Region consists of Sukhoi’s planes not of the fifth generation)
          Quote: GSH-18
          but there is an old glider from the Soviet still-29

          Sukhov gliders are also not Russian) The same Soviet gliders as the MiG.
          Quote: GSH-18
          into which they stuffed some kind of electronics, the effectiveness of which no one checked, repainted and wrote on board the "mig-35"

          Su-30 generally consists of foreign components.
          Quote: GSH-18
          repainted and painted on board "mig-35"

          Actually, Su was led to repaint and give new names, in particular, Simon submitted this idea.
          Quote: GSH-18
          And it is positioned as a breakthrough!

          In in !!! This is exactly what happened with the new Su under Simonov in 90).
          Quote: GSH-18
          But the PR company is as if they made a starship

          Let's remember the film about "Sabretooth" Su)))). though the film turned out to be such that it was more likely to attract anti-advertising. "Black Shark" was by far the best.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 14 June 2016 01: 17
            0
            Quote: tomket
            You didn’t notice, but the main package of orders of the Moscow Region consists of Sukhoi’s planes not of the fifth generation)

            There are two reasons for this: the T-50 has not yet passed military test operation (the 1st aircraft of the 5th generation, anyway). And if you paid attention, the Su-35 is a transitional aircraft to the "5" generation, that is, many technologies of our five were tested on it. Accordingly, with the exception of a small RCS, the Su-35 is as close as possible in its characteristics to the "5".
            Quote: tomket
            In in !!! This is exactly what happened with the new Su under Simonov in the 90s)

            We know this story. However, now KB "Sukhoi" is the undisputed leader in the field of front-line fighter aviation in the Russian Federation. You won't argue with that, will you?
            Quote: tomket
            Let's remember the film about "Sabretooth" Su)))). though the film turned out to be such that it was more likely to attract anti-advertising. "Black Shark" was by far the best.

            Ha! The black shark is now no worse (like a single-seat helicopter of this class). And Ka-52 and even more so.
            1. tomket
              tomket 14 June 2016 01: 32
              +3
              Quote: GSH-18
              on it, many technologies of our five were tested. Accordingly, with the exception of a small EPR, the Su-35 is as close as possible in its characteristics to the "5".

              That is, if all the systems were tested on the Su-35, then the hitch in adopting the T-50 is due to the glider? Ha ha ha !!!!
              Quote: GSH-18
              However, now KB "Sukhoi" is the undisputed leader in the field of front-line fighter aviation in the Russian Federation. You won't argue with that, will you?

              And also "Sukhoi" is the undisputed leader in civil aviation) And after the Su-30M2 was adopted, which, in the presence of the Su-30SM, did not give up to anyone, everything became clear with Poghosyan and Co.
              Quote: GSH-18
              The bull shark is now no worse (like a single-seat helicopter of this class). And Ka-52 and even more so.

              I was referring to the Black Shark ad and the Mirror Wars ad.
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 14 June 2016 02: 34
                -2
                Quote: tomket
                That is, if all the systems were tested on the Su-35, then the hitch in adopting the T-50 is due to the glider? Ha ha ha !!!!

                What made you laugh so much? This is our first five. Almost everything is worked out on it. The use of weapons, tactics, flight modes and much more. And what can migrants boast? An old glider that shoved Chinese chips into? Well, yes, in China this 35th can be sold. And our VKS Sukhoi will deliver normal planes. Well, migrants do not reach the level of Sukhoi request
                Quote: tomket
                with Pogosyan and Co. everything became clear

                lol Indeed, now everything is clear! You have a clear antipathy to Poghosyan. Therefore, all the cars and everything that Sukhoi does is bad. Oh well laughing It’s good that in reality all this is not so. And it would be in Syria with wonderful ancient twists (which by the way were not taken there at all, which in itself is very indicative) dishonored the whole world.
                And now the line for Dryers from buyers is good
                And on "moments" is not worth it, literally and figuratively lol no one.
                Quote: tomket
                I meant the Black Shark commercial

                Ahh, well, I looked differently, back in Soviet times, where she in Afghanistan scoffs at rockets for perfumes.
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT
    GELEZNII_KAPUT 13 June 2016 15: 51
    +19
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Is the Russian MiG-35 ready to fight the American F-22 and F-35?

    I always want to ask in response: Are they ready? !!
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 13 June 2016 15: 57
      +3
      I didn’t say anything about "The Russian MiG-35 is ready to fight the American F-22 and F-35"! I just compared Madzhuzhumdar with Zadornov and Petrosyan ... They are in the same weight category ... wink
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 13 June 2016 17: 43
        +12
        Why in one? Zadornov says smart things, not just funny ones.
        1. alexng
          alexng 13 June 2016 18: 44
          +2
          And the comparison seems to be made by the victim of EGE-ge: one is a satirist, and the other is a "humorist". In one word, alibabaevich - the snow fell.
      2. iConst
        iConst 13 June 2016 20: 38
        +4
        Quote: ALABAY45
        I just compared Majuzhumdar with Zadornov and Petrosyan .... They are in the same weight category ...

        - Uh, my friend, it seems that you, that vodka, that a machine gun - one figs ...

        If Zadornov has satire and humor, then the second has most of the jokes below the belt. Favorite topic 6ydla.

        On the topic of the article: and the name was given an interesting - "fulcrum".

        Archimedes also said - give me a fulcrum and I ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 13 June 2016 15: 58
      +8
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      I always want to ask in response: Are they ready? !!

      To what? -fight a plane that isn’t?
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 13 June 2016 16: 12
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        To what? -fight a plane that isn’t?

        A lot of things are not yet there, but they are constantly comparing, then missile defense, then air defense, then aircraft carriers, etc. etc.
      2. Pushkar77
        Pushkar77 13 June 2016 16: 31
        +15
        Hmm, I hope that two samples will still be collected this summer or autumn, and the tests will begin. By the way, they wrote that work on the MiG-41 is also going on for the fifth generation (the basis of the MiG-1.44 for its money), who knows, the projects are in business? The MiG-35 car is certainly good, but the project slows down with zeal.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 13 June 2016 16: 40
          +16
          Quote: Pushkar77
          By the way, they wrote that work on the MiG-41 is also going on for the fifth generation (the basis of the MiG-1.44 for its money), who knows, the projects are in business?

          Work is underway on the MIG-41 (PAK DP). There are very few informers ... but ... some performance characteristics of the interceptor have already been announced. The maximum speed is 4,5-5 max. Both our and the western sides spoke about this.
          1. Pushkar77
            Pushkar77 13 June 2016 17: 42
            +10
            It is also known that the MiG-31 will serve as the basis (by the way, heat-resistant triplex, which was previously used in space, should be used for the glazing of the MiG-31 BM lanterns, at least as they wrote). Recently, information appeared that a sixth generation machine is being developed, also high-speed, the order was received by Sukhoi (this is not surprising, although only KB MiG has experience in developing such machines, but people with the Sukhoi design bureau sit on the board of directors, RSK, they probably they will simply take all these developments, as they once took all the developments on PFAR and AFAR. At least Rogozin said that the only option was from Sukhoi. This immediately alerted him, although life speaks in favor of Mikoyan, the same MiG -31, MiG-25. The most important thing is that it was voiced by the "great engineer" Dmitry Olegovich. You can close your eyes to this too, so that they do not drown the MiG-41 project. About the MiG-35. The machine has little in common with the base MiG -29, Suffice it to say that the fuselage of the MiG-35 is formed by three fuel tanks, by design, these are very different machines, very interesting materials are used there.
          2. Lex.
            Lex. 13 June 2016 18: 01
            +2
            Maximum speed 4,5-5 max-For a plane it's not real
            1. tomket
              tomket 14 June 2016 00: 07
              -1
              Quote: Lex.
              Maximum speed 4,5-5 max-For a plane it's not real

              The maximum speed in the USSR among the aircraft was given by the MiG-25M, there was something in the 3500km / h area. However, the project was turned in favor of the MiG-31, plus there was something with the engines. About 4-5 flies for a controlled aircraft, I also doubt very much.
          3. Wiruz
            Wiruz 13 June 2016 18: 25
            +4
            TTX interceptor. The maximum speed of 4,5-5 Mach

            Cheating, Nexus, cheating. Someone from the VKS (then the Air Force) was talking about the desired speed of Mach 4,5, either a retired general or an acting one. There were no official data on the speed of the future interceptor either from the KLA or from the VKS.

            (they say, they say, about the desired speed of Mach 4,5, what deputy from some committee generally said)
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 13 June 2016 19: 18
              +3
              Quote: Wiruz
              Cheating, Nexus, cheating.

              Why? Here is the statement of our faces ...
              The newest Russian MiG-41 interceptor fighter should have a speed of at least Mach 4-4,3, the Russian hero, test pilot Anatoly Kvochur, told RIA Novosti. So he commented on the message of State Duma deputy Alexander Tarnayev that Russia is developing a new MiG-41 fighter based on the MiG-31 heavy fighter-interceptor, whose speed was 2,8 Mach. Tarnayev said at a meeting of experts in aerospace defense that the chief of the General Staff signed a decree on the deep modernization of Soviet MiG-31 fighter interceptors. “Such modernization was supposed to take place twenty years ago. However, this did not happen then, so now the requirements are increasing. They include, inter alia (increasing) the interceptor speed to Mach 4-4,3, ”Kvochur said.

              And in the west, they also spoke about high-speed performance characteristics of the PAK DP, voicing about the same figures.
              1. Wiruz
                Wiruz 13 June 2016 21: 07
                +4
                Why? Here is the statement of our faces ...

                Well? AND? The test pilot, as a person endowed with authority, but not power, expressed his opinion about what speed the new aircraft should have. Was this an official statement from a UAC representative? No! A statement on behalf of the Department of Defense? No! Disclosure of information from a representative of RAC "MiG"? Also no! You can listen to his words, but take them for the truth, and even more so to rely on them, is not yet possible.

                In addition, the current engines on the MiG-31 could not squeeze out such speed. The new ones will most likely be able to, because it is not a high flight speed that is destructive for a person, but a high acceleration, which causes overload. Technically, Mach 4,5 will be difficult to achieve. But, "difficult" does not mean "impossible". In addition, the MiG hypersonic aircraft project also took place in the USSR, it's a pity that the project remained request
              2. tomket
                tomket 14 June 2016 00: 08
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                And in the west, they also spoke about high-speed performance characteristics of the PAK DP, voicing about the same figures.

                It doesn’t mean that it will have such a speed.
          4. avia1991
            avia1991 13 June 2016 20: 08
            -1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Maximum speed 4,5-5 Mach

            Is this already the "5 ++" generation? .. Well, that is, it is unlikely to be able to reach the sixth stage, without going through the fifth stage - but still?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 13 June 2016 20: 26
              +1
              Quote: avia1991
              Is this already the "5 ++" generation? .. Well, that is, it is unlikely to be able to reach the sixth stage, without going through the fifth stage - but still?

              Development of the PAK DP is underway, and what kind of "bird" there will be at the exit, God knows. There is very little information, vultures all around.
              1. Pushkar77
                Pushkar77 13 June 2016 21: 47
                +2
                I think that everything will go gradually. Since the MiG-31 interceptor is taken as the basis for the promising machine, this suggests that the production line of the MiG-31 will be restored with some changes. The goal is likely to be the following, to reach (or surpass) the speed of the "Blackbird" (in our time it is achievable), and also to achieve a stable level flight at an altitude of 25-27 km. If these characteristics can be achieved, then it will be already cool. Also increase the combat radius up to five thousand km .. For this we need the appropriate engines, and of course AFAR, electronic warfare, etc. You can hardly get off with stainless steel, you need heat-resistant materials, both for the airframe and for the engines. An interceptor with similar characteristics looks more realistic. But the firm "Sukhoi" announced the creation of a multipurpose fighter that will go on five strides. The only thing that can be guaranteed here is the destruction of the state budget at about the same speed, and the fighter will most likely have a maximum speed of 3700 km at full afterburner. Here one question arises why such speeds are for a multipurpose fighter, a high-speed highly specialized interceptor is one thing, such speeds are vital for him in specialization, but why are they for a multipurpose fighter, this is already a question. Probably where a couple of dozen extra billions of greens were lying around in the treasury. In any case, while this is unrealistic, the laws of physics are stronger.
          5. The stranger
            The stranger 14 June 2016 04: 16
            +1
            Come on. What will happen to the pilot when turning three degrees, at a speed of Mach 4? And at 5? Overload.
            3 Mach for a person is already too much. Because they do not fly with so much, not that they cannot make an airplane. At this speed, a person does not have enough time to make a decision, and even more so to a reaction when the situation changes. And to plant it inside only for beauty ...
            IMHO of course, but what I now call the fifth generation is probably the last inhabited fighter and attack aircraft. If at all they really enter the troops. I’m not sure about the bombers - they probably will leave the crew, it’s too dangerous a thing to entrust only to computers and radio.
            But if MiG was loaded with an unmanned aircraft, leaving the manned one behind the Su, it would sound more reliable. Moreover, they have experience with long-range fast 25 and 31.
        2. Voyager
          Voyager 13 June 2016 20: 15
          0
          wonderful movie, thanks!
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 14 June 2016 00: 05
          -5
          Quote: Pushkar77
          MiG-35 car is certainly good

          And why is she good? The fact that it is even worse in the project than even the Su-30, which by the way is already in service with the Russian Air Force.
          Quote: Pushkar77
          work goes on and on the fifth generation (the basis of the MiG-1.44 for your money

          What is the 5th generation from Mikoyan? belay God with you! They do not even have real achievements. And why is the Russian Aerospace Forces another fifth-generation fighter, when the T-5 is on its way ???
          Mig 1,44 LFI ... To answer this question we can only say that the concept of a fighter pair with the advent of the era of multi-functional front-line fighters has sunk into oblivion. Therefore, the LFI is not relevant, it simply has nowhere to stick in our doctrine request There is a micro-need for "Kuznetsov" as a deck-boat, that's all.
          Interceptors from the Migovites are normal. My opinion is that let them do it. And if they make a sensible attack drone, then the Russian Air Force and our entire country will only say thank you to them. But the fact remains - they flew with front-line fighters! And now, rightly and deservedly, KB Sukhoi has the palm.
          1. tomket
            tomket 14 June 2016 00: 28
            +3
            Quote: GSH-18
            when the T-50 is on its way ???

            Yes, somehow he is being held up.
            Quote: GSH-18
            To answer this question we can only say that the concept of a fighter couple with the advent of the era of multifunctional front-line fighters has sunk into oblivion.

            Your head may be gone.
            Quote: GSH-18
            Therefore, the LFI is not relevant, it simply has nowhere to stick in our doctrine

            What is better to have, a couple of regiments per thousand kilometers, or a dozen regiments in the same territory?
            Quote: GSH-18
            But the fact remains, they flew with the front-line fighters!

            How to explain to you. In the 2007-2008 years, when Serdyukov planned to fight with different Chechens, the front-line fighter was really not needed, but now that the big polar fox of the third world war is getting closer and closer, four dozen su-35 will not be repelled. God is on the side of large battalions.
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 14 June 2016 00: 56
              -7
              Quote: tomket
              Yes, somehow he is being held up.

              Actually, the arrangements for staging the T-50 in the Russian Air Force are strictly on schedule. What can’t you say about the work on Mig-35, they still can’t figure it out with suppliers there, Hochma! And why is the RF Ministry of Defense such a manufacturer of the obviously worse analogue of the Su-30 ??? request
              Quote: tomket
              Your head may be gone.

              And your means, everything is in the 80s 90s of the last century? Well, continue to comfort yourself with hope.
              Quote: tomket
              What is better to have, a couple of regiments per thousand kilometers, or a dozen regiments in the same territory?

              Have we changed the theme from aviation to infantry?
              Quote: tomket
              In 2007-2008, when Serdyukov planned to fight with different Chechens, front-line fighter really was not needed

              Wow, the statement ... And do you know when the work on the 5th generation T-50, Su-35, Su-35 Russian aircraft began? That is, according to your logic, they started when he was not needed? This is something beyond good and evil lol Or smoke smoking? Do not be offended.
              1. tomket
                tomket 14 June 2016 01: 06
                +3
                Quote: GSH-18
                Have we changed the theme from aviation to infantry?

                Is there no regiment in aviation?
                Quote: GSH-18
                Do you know when the work on the Russian aircraft of the 5 generation T-50, Su-35, Su-35 began? That is, according to your logic, they started when he was not needed?

                By front-line fighter, I meant the MiG-29, which was supposed to operate OVER THE FRONT LINE, unlike all the fighters you listed above, which were supposed to operate in the DEPTH of enemy defense.
                Quote: GSH-18
                This is something beyond good and evil

                What are the blurred concepts of Good and Evil in you. You probably when you drink bad coffee in the morning, also put a cue about Good and Evil and their eternal opposition?
                Quote: GSH-18
                Or smoke smoking?

                On their own people are not judged.
                Quote: GSH-18
                Do not be offended.

                Sorry, you are trying to reduce the dialogue to "! Yourself!"
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 14 June 2016 03: 06
                  -3
                  Quote: tomket
                  unlike all of the fighters you listed above that were supposed to operate in the DEPTH of enemy defense.

                  Do our VKS strategists know about this? belay
                  In fact, starting with the Su-30 fighters became multifunctional, this is not just a beautiful verbal increase. In practice, this is a change of era in fighter aircraft, and of course, a change in tactics of combat use in the absence of an unnecessary LFI. Notice, our industry no longer produces light fighters. Drying in our air force all flooded. And this is good.
                  Quote: tomket
                  You probably when you drink bad coffee in the morning

                  No, I do not like coffee. I have more tea.
                  Quote: tomket
                  Sorry, you are trying to reduce the dialogue to "! Yourself!"

                  I asked not to be offended request
      3. figwam
        figwam 13 June 2016 17: 01
        +12
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        To what? -fight a plane that isn’t?

        Two pre-production ones are already under construction. I am glad that MIG is back.
        1. Proxima
          Proxima 13 June 2016 17: 36
          +5
          Quote: figvam

          Two pre-production ones are already under construction. I am glad that MIG is back.

          VERY GOOD NEWS! Finally, all the same, they decided to give the MiG-35 a ticket to life. I no longer hoped. It seems to me that the MiG-35 is a wonderful aircraft. In addition to all the above improvements, the 35th compared to the 29th has a flight hour cost of 2.5 cheaper! I sincerely hope that a comrade with an unpronounceable surname has reliable information.
        2. RUSIVAN
          RUSIVAN 13 June 2016 17: 47
          +4
          I agree, Mig is the same legendary car as the Kalashnikov assault rifle ...
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 14 June 2016 21: 10
          -1
          Quote: figvam
          Quote: Alexander Romanov

          To what? -fight a plane that isn’t?

          Two pre-production ones are already under construction. I am glad that MIG is back.

          He's not coming back anywhere. They will be kept like a scarecrow for the Sukhoi design bureau, so as not to relax.
          And so, it's time to rename the service station "Mikoyan" lol.
          When the 29th runs out after the end of its life, you will understand me.
          It's like in America, whoever takes part in the competition, but the strongest always wins. They have it Lockheed Martin, and here it is the Sukhoi Design Bureau.
          Our MO understands this very well, and thank God!
          Well, on the site, everyone can continue to come to snot, but nothing will change from this. The future of Russian front-line aviation is Sukhoi aircraft yes
          Respectfully to all those present love
      4. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 13 June 2016 20: 47
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        fight with a plane that isn’t?

        Do not worry. Will be. Everything has its time.
    3. razmik72
      razmik72 13 June 2016 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: GELEZNII_KAPUT
      Quote: ALABAY45
      Is the Russian MiG-35 ready to fight the American F-22 and F-35?

      I always want to ask in response: Are they ready? !!

      I would advise the editorial staff of the National Interest to change this "wise" Indian with an unpronounceable name and surname, otherwise he makes the whole newspaper ridiculous.
      1. Dam
        Dam 13 June 2016 17: 26
        +5
        He is a pack! But iksperd in everything! A week does not pass, so that something new does not become impudent. Well done, the main thing is paying money for it. Loh mattress all will come down
        1. pilot8878
          pilot8878 13 June 2016 17: 38
          +10
          Quote: Damm
          I would advise the editorial staff of the National Interest to change this "wise" Indian with an unpronounceable name and surname, otherwise he makes the whole newspaper ridiculous.

          Quote: Damm
          He is a pack! But iksperd in everything! A week does not pass, so that something new does not become impudent. Well done, the main thing is paying money for it. Loh mattress all will come down

          I don’t understand why Mudozhmur did not please you? wink Good journalism-speziolizd on all military issues. laughing As you read, the mood improves.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 14 June 2016 21: 20
            0
            Quote: pilot8878
            I don’t understand why Mudozhmur did not please you? wink A good journalism-speziolizd on all military issues. laughing

            Yes, there is only his name is used, and all these opuses are sprinkled by another team! Mudozhmur himself is not aware that "he" was there when and where he wrote laughing
  • aleks26
    aleks26 13 June 2016 16: 09
    +5
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Worse than Zadornov!

    Well, comparing the analyst and the comedian is somehow not correct. Well, if the author is considered a humorist, then to Zadornov he ear, how far.
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 13 June 2016 16: 41
      +2
      Let’s start with the fact that Zadornov is an analyst ... belay
      1. bastard
        bastard 13 June 2016 18: 27
        +3
        Quote: ALABAY45
        Let’s start with the fact that Zadornov is an analyst ..

        Well, Zadornov at least graduated from the Moscow Aviation Institute, took part in the "Buran-Energia" program. And about Majumdar, even the Wikipedia have nothing. So so, h / o porpous.
  • Professor
    Professor 13 June 2016 16: 12
    +13
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Dave Majumdar ... How, he got it! Super, ass, analyst ...

    Do not worry so. Who reads this yellowness of The National Interest? request
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 13 June 2016 16: 39
      +2
      hi Nobody! And, publishes "VO" ... We have to worry!
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 13 June 2016 16: 47
      +2
      Quote: Professor
      Don’t worry. You are so. Who reads this yellowness of The National Interest?

      You just now! Now, here you unsubscribe a comment ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 13 June 2016 18: 09
        +1
        Quote: Stas157
        You just now! Now, here you unsubscribe a comment ...

        What makes you think that I read this article. When I see The National Interest I am limited only to comments and even this is not always the case.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 13 June 2016 19: 33
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Stas157
          You just now! Now, here you unsubscribe a comment ...

          What makes you think that I read this article. When I see The National Interest I am limited only to comments and even this is not always the case.

          Please recommend popular reviews, which, in your opinion, are not so shameful to read. No kidding, your opinion is interesting.
          1. Professor
            Professor 13 June 2016 19: 39
            0
            Quote: Mikhail3
            Please recommend popular reviews, which, in your opinion, are not so shameful to read. No kidding, your opinion is interesting.

            Start with articles by Alex Alekseev.
            1. Schulz
              Schulz 13 June 2016 22: 11
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: Mikhail3
              Please recommend popular reviews, which, in your opinion, are not so shameful to read. No kidding, your opinion is interesting.

              Start with articles by Alex Alekseev.


              Then you can wave to and (what the hell is not joking) http://www.janes.com.
              1. Professor
                Professor 14 June 2016 08: 09
                0
                Quote: Schulz
                Then you can wave to and (what the hell is not joking) http://www.janes.com.

                Are we talking about VO? wink
                1. Schulz
                  Schulz 14 June 2016 08: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Professor

                  Are we talking about VO? wink


                  Suddenly, a person will be interested? Horizons for.

                  Rafael, here, shows another novelty.
                  PS: test drives.
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  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 13 June 2016 19: 11
    +2
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Dave Majumdar ... How, he got it!

    Maybe this what ... you eat it winked ? Paprika, Kazakhstan onion, local dill, Belarusian salt and Abkhaz adjika sad. And there will be no more Majumdar and his analytics. request And I will forgive you a debt on this occasion. yes
    Hello macho from the catering department! drinks
    1. family tree
      family tree 13 June 2016 22: 08
      +1
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Paprika, Kazakhstan onion, local dill, Belarusian salt and Abkhaz adjika

      Soot and ... throw, (Yurka, cash on delivery, parcel) and the rest, it is better to fish and ham ham. The current with juniper does not handle laughing
      Healthy friends fellow
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 13 June 2016 23: 32
        0
        Quote: perepilka
        Healthy friends

        Hi, renegade! How is it, on RusTop, boring wink ? Look, I'm tracking ... am
        I read somewhere that maybe Iran will order the MiG-35 in large quantities.
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 13 June 2016 19: 57
    +1
    What are you all Petrosyan, Petrosyan ... Vaganych has not been heard for 10 years, and the new generation knows about him as the Glory of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Trollte Urgant with Svetlakov - that's really "satirists" wassat
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 14 June 2016 10: 16
      0
      Galustov and Svetlakyan seem to be working.
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 13 June 2016 15: 46
    +2
    And besides Mujamar, there is still someone in the West who "understands" our military equipment?
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 13 June 2016 15: 48
      +29
      Yes, but she is on maternity leave.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 13 June 2016 15: 49
        +3
        Unpaid, apparently.
      2. bastard
        bastard 13 June 2016 18: 46
        +1
        [center] [/ center]
        Quote: Valter1364
        Yes, but she is on maternity leave.

        And dad’s child Ganjubas Majumdar?
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 13 June 2016 15: 50
      +4
      Quote: fzr1000
      And besides Mujamar, there is still someone in the West who "understands" our military equipment?




      DBL / bld? smile
    3. Schulz
      Schulz 13 June 2016 19: 52
      0
      Quote: fzr1000
      And besides Mujamar, there is still someone in the West who "understands" our military equipment?

      Quote: Valter1364
      Yes, but she is on maternity leave.


      Have you seriously heard about prominent analysts?
      and experts on Russian TV, Scott Bennett and Michael Billington?

  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 13 June 2016 15: 47
    +12
    I’m laughing at this Dave. So many stocks when describing one single plane ...

    To begin with, he just changed the glider. This is not 29, but 29K. Reinforced and with tanks everywhere.
    Secondly, it is not easier.
    In the third radar, he does not have a Beetle-something-there, but a Beetle-A. Not just with HEADLIGHTS but with active HEADLIGHTS. And she is not the first.
    An engine with OVT is an option and is not at all a fact that the MO will order it.
    But Gonjubar forgot about the open architecture of on-board electronics. But in vain.
    And yet, the aircraft is not in two versions, but in one, two-legged one. But instead of the third pilot, extra is easily and simply put. tank.

    In general, he sang loudly, but did not hit the notes and forgot the words.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 13 June 2016 15: 48
    +1
    Well, to us, the more new planes, the better.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 13 June 2016 16: 51
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well, to us, the more new planes, the better.

      This, of course, is correct, but for some reason the statements of representatives of the aircraft industry are somehow straining - like the plane is not really ready yet, it is not standing in rows and columns at takeoffs, and "we already have a package of foreign orders." Ooh-ooh !!! Who do we work for?
  • Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 13 June 2016 15: 51
    +2
    Again old Dave without having a bite of another shodefr rodml! Let's say that in close combat the Mig will take out f35, but the raptor is a bird of a different class, it needs "drying" against it, and KB Mig needs to build a lightweight fighter of the fifth generation.
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 13 June 2016 15: 53
    +13
    But good, little devil!
    1. RedBaron
      RedBaron 13 June 2016 16: 17
      -35%
      The taste and color ... and the glider is generally crooked from the last century laughing
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 13 June 2016 16: 33
        +24
        Quote: RedBaron
        The taste and color ... and the glider is generally crooked from the last century laughing

        Compared to the 29th, the glider was heavily modified. In addition, the 35th added a couple of tons of weight and acquired an AFAR.
        Regarding the "crooked glider" ... first take a look at the Warthog. I'm not talking about the F-117
        1. aleks26
          aleks26 13 June 2016 16: 46
          +13
          Quote: NEXUS
          Regarding the "crooked glider" ... first take a look at the Warthog. I'm not talking about the F-117

          But.no.Fe-117 do not touch! The Lame Dwarf was commissioned by Hollywood. And not for some kind of voynushek. By brutality, he is in first place! Das ist Fantastish!
      2. avva2012
        avva2012 13 June 2016 16: 50
        +6
        Quote: RedBaron The taste and color ... and the glider is generally crooked from the last century

        I'm not a specialist at all. But, the forum discussed MIG-21, and the forum member, Vadivak , wrote: "The MiG-21-93 is equipped with a multifunctional coherent impulse-Lopler radar" Spear "with a phased antenna array, a number of foreign-made systems. The armament includes a GSh-23 double-barreled cannon, R-27R1 (T1), R-60 missiles , R-73, R-77, Kh-25MP, Kh-31A (P), NAR blocks, corrected bombs KAB-500Kr Airframe lifespan increased to 40 years The use of a radio-absorbing glider coating is provided. targets day and night, in free space and against the background of the earth, at medium level and in close combat, when attacking the front and rear hemispheres of the target, in conditions of organized radio countermeasures at altitudes of 21-93 m, flying at a speed of 30-22000 km / h , as well as helicopters; strike airfields, ground structures, bridges, ships, operating ground and ship radars and air defense systems. At the same time, the combat effectiveness of the aircraft has been increased 1600 times for air targets and 2300 times for ground ones. A modernization program for early MiG-8 fighters has been developed. at releases in the MiG-3-21 ".
        So what about, it's me. MIG-29-th, not much younger than 21-th smile ... And if the 21st is being modernized, that is, they are investing money in the plane, then in the 29th, all the more it is possible and necessary. And who thinks that the glider is crooked, then I would like to ask the question, "can you have progressive astigmatism or some other kind of attack on both eyes?"
        1. poquello
          poquello 13 June 2016 17: 16
          +2
          Quote: avva2012
          And who thinks that the glider is crooked, then I would like to ask the question, "can you have progressive astigmatism or some other kind of attack on both eyes?"

          maybe he likes everything that’s flat, the more flattened the better
          1. RedBaron
            RedBaron 14 June 2016 00: 18
            -1
            Quote: poquello
            Quote: avva2012
            And who thinks that the glider is crooked, then I would like to ask the question, "can you have progressive astigmatism or some other kind of attack on both eyes?"

            maybe he likes everything that’s flat, the more flattened the better

            Maybe I like the T50, is it a punt that is not capable of anything? fellow
            1. poquello
              poquello 14 June 2016 13: 49
              0
              Quote: RedBaron
              Quote: poquello
              Quote: avva2012
              And who thinks that the glider is crooked, then I would like to ask the question, "can you have progressive astigmatism or some other kind of attack on both eyes?"

              maybe he likes everything that’s flat, the more flattened the better

              Maybe I like the T50, is it a punt that is not capable of anything? fellow

              capable, but the glider is made with the task of stealth, respectively, the remaining indicators are squeezed from other components, of course in proportions
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    2. figwam
      figwam 13 June 2016 17: 18
      +3
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      But good, little devil!

      The main thing is that Ubeshki will not be as such, but there will be a full-fledged aircraft with AFAR.
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 13 June 2016 15: 55
    +10
    Looking at our gliders, one involuntarily gives the impression that they are perfect in the perfection of their forms.
    If there were no such aircraft, then they would be worth coming up with.
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  • 31rus2
    31rus2 13 June 2016 16: 20
    +1
    We’ll wait and see how many conversations are already, tomorrow, exactly after tomorrow, and there are still no aircraft as units ready for release. It’s good if they work before, they will test and make a decision, but everything can change quickly
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 June 2016 16: 25
    0
    Poghosyan played a dirty trick at one time, burning out competitors with a hot iron, and sawing the petrodollar budget with the help of "Superjets", almost entirely on the import of designed and assembled. But a good plane is difficult to "push" if needed. Comes out. Nice flight, 35th. The necessary plane, and it should be cheaper.
    1. Muvka
      Muvka 13 June 2016 17: 01
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Poghosyan played a dirty trick at one time, burning out competitors with a hot iron, and sawing the petrodollar budget with the help of "Superjets", almost entirely on the import of designed and assembled. But a good plane is difficult to "push" if needed. Comes out. Nice flight, 35th. The necessary plane, and it should be cheaper.

      50% almost entirely? Oh well.
      1. Alex_Tug
        Alex_Tug 13 June 2016 20: 07
        +2
        Let me put together a parable for you guys ... For me, that Pogosyan, that Petrosyan are not authorities ... (especially with a small letter p). IN THE GREAT OAK DRY "carried" in the womb an aircraft SUPERJET. He even received a Russian flight certificate. Even 5-6 pieces were stuck in Aeroflot. Hi fly. Then the song ... We want, we damn it ..., sell our super-puperjets to foreigners. Foreigners in response ... damn it ... where is the European certificate of readiness to fly? The Pogsyan comrades told Nifigase ... what is it? I don't know where they rushed ... where? maybe first to the Indians ... damn it ... -Indians do not know Russian. shit ... looking for a long time, not looking for long ... found a Russian company that understands certification. And to them with a bow - help, brothers. They ... will help you well ... where are you, where is it ... What the fuck is the answer? We have never heard such words ... here I (the designer), if I promised that he would fly ... then he would fly. Brothers got upset ... not forging themselves, but for the sake of the MOTHERLAND we can work. And they worked for 7-8 years for the whole year so that the Puperjet passed the European certification. Then, finally, OAK DRYJET was able to foist a dozen puperjets on the Mexicans.
        I can continue further if interested ... The parable is not yet completed.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 June 2016 16: 32
    +1
    The main thing is that everything that is needed appears at the right time in the right place, including airplanes. And you can talk endlessly on this topic. hi
  • nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 13 June 2016 16: 32
    +3
    This Majumdar of yours does not understand a damn thing about the material, but at the same time he writes regularly. How long will the articles of this "Xperd" be published?
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 13 June 2016 16: 49
    +6
    There is no need to dig MiGs into the ground. These are beautiful aircraft in their segment and a wonderful team that does a lot in creating new cars. It is necessary to support them and wait for the release of the new version. Time will tell.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 13 June 2016 17: 13
    +2
    MiG-35 is the last hope RSK-MiG to return part of the lost share in the international fighter market.

    I dare to assert that this hope, even when it dies, then after Majumdar.
  • Stabilization
    Stabilization 13 June 2016 17: 27
    +1
    In my opinion, the "Beetle" sees a little further than 150 km ...
  • Stabilization
    Stabilization 13 June 2016 17: 28
    -1
    and in general ... if we compare in this way, then let's compare f16 and su35 ...
  • sir_obs
    sir_obs 13 June 2016 17: 34
    0
    The MiG has long been ready, the vaunted "invisible" are not ready.
  • uzer 13
    uzer 13 13 June 2016 17: 36
    +4
    In the English comments under the original article, someone wrote that the F-22 could beat half a dozen MiG-35 and Su-35 combined. That is, patriots of domestic aircraft construction are everywhere. However, there is an opinion that they roughly correspond to F-35 in all parameters, in addition to STELS technology. They also recall the F-117, shot down in Yugoslavia by the same ancient missile that McCain was shot down in Vietnam at one time.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 13 June 2016 19: 58
      +2
      Quote: uzer 13
      In the English comments under the original article, someone wrote that the F-22 could beat half a dozen MiG-35 and Su-35 combined. That is, patriots of domestic aircraft construction are everywhere. However, there is an opinion that they roughly correspond to F-35 in all parameters, in addition to STELS technology. They also recall the F-117, shot down in Yugoslavia by the same ancient missile that McCain was shot down in Vietnam at one time.

      I was always struck by the persistence with which some commentators prove the 100% effectiveness of American weapons, in fact not a single miss 1 missile 1 target. And the inefficiency of Russian weapons is almost on the verge of futility.
  • iouris
    iouris 13 June 2016 18: 23
    0
    MiG-29 is in the arsenal of buyers. Consequently, the MiG-35 is for sale.
  • mlad
    mlad 13 June 2016 18: 27
    +1
    Russian planes are all good, especially flight characteristics. BUT - electronics substitutes us. If you put AFAR on MIGs and dryers, then there will be no price for them. Afar afar is different, the Indians were not happy with the Russian AFAR bug, I hope now they have brought it to acceptable characteristics. F16 with AFAR can give a decent answer even SU ​​35
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 13 June 2016 18: 31
    +2
    But am I interested? What will happen earlier: will the MiG-35 be adopted or will the flag be raised at Gren? After all, both are long-lived. The MiG-35 was so promised since 2009 to supply troops hi
  • Zloy ork
    Zloy ork 13 June 2016 18: 36
    -18%
    One uncle already talked about "order in the skies over Syria thanks to the S-300 and S-400", a week later, two ancient A-10s cleared the positions of the Syrian army. And when "Donald Cook" was stuck optical processors in "Aegis", "Khibiny" went to the dustbin of history. So what? AFR will see the enemy 150 km away? Do you even know what entangled states of matter are? The Americans no longer need to irradiate or shoot you in order to incapacitate a pilot or an airplane, or a hypersonic warhead, they don't even care where they are. Are you still laughing at Stealth and Reilguns? Believe me, the United States loves sophisticated banter over simpletons and defense investments in science. I am sure that the Hong Kong puppeteers, who have gained full control over oil, will receive an unpleasant surprise from the Republicans in the form of cold fusion. I am very sorry to be in the same boat with the caps. Guys, wake up!
    1. Altona
      Altona 13 June 2016 19: 37
      +6
      Quote: Zloy Ork
      One uncle already talked about "order in the skies over Syria thanks to the S-300 and S-400", a week later, two ancient A-10s cleared the positions of the Syrian army. And when "Donald Cook" was stuck optical processors in "Aegis", "Khibiny" went to the dustbin of history. So what?

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      Let's go in order:
      1) Two ancient A-10. We have no less ancient Su-24 and Su-25 being bombed there. So "antiquity" is a relative concept. Let me remind you that there are still ancient "Tornadoes" flying and there are some figures.
      2) "Unfigged the positions of the Syrian army," despite the S-400. The S-400 oversees the security of the Aerospace Forces aircraft. She doesn't care about the rest. With regards to her shooting down American planes, it would be, hmm, more than a polar fox. There is an agreement with the Americans "on flight safety." Therefore, the bombing of the positions of the SAR army is still a lesser evil in comparison with a nuclear war. Or don't you think so?
      3) "Optical processors" - what kind of animal is this? This is apparently a matrix similar to the one that takes a photo in your smartphone, that way at 13-41 Mpx. So there is some kind of lens in the radar. That is, "Donald Cook" was equipped with a digital telescope and now it is a scientific vessel that takes "Google photos"? So what? And he goes to the Crimea to study the nature of the coast.
      4) "Khibiny" went to the dustbin of history. My friend, they return something from the dump of history and back quite often.
      5) Entangled states of matter. That is, a flying US fighter is capable of going into antimatter state and back. Flies and once such, disintegrated into bosons and neutrinos, and then again and again an ordinary piece of iron. And then, once and in general, he became a "black hole" and sucked in everything and everyone. Have you ever tried writing science fiction? I would read about fighter tangled matter.
      1. Zloy ork
        Zloy ork 13 June 2016 20: 15
        -6
        My friend, I am pleased with the local patriotic community, I am pleased that you answered confidently, but I do not want the remnants of the Russians to become cannon fodder. Our explosive field generators are just nervously smoking on the sidelines. Yes, and I recommend at least reading about confused states. It's cool to die of leukemia without being hit by EMP. PS "You need to study."
        1. Altona
          Altona 13 June 2016 20: 30
          +2
          Quote: Zloy Ork
          My friend, I am pleased with the local patriotic community, I am pleased that you answered confidently, but I do not want the remnants of the Russians to become cannon fodder. Our explosive field generators are just nervously smoking on the sidelines. Yes, and I recommend at least reading about confused states. It's cool to die of leukemia without being hit by EMP. PS "You need to study."

          -----------------------
          Again. Breathe deeply, you are thrilled. Where is there even a drop of patriotism in my dry commentary? "Hurray for Putin, glory to Russia, down with the agents of the State Department and American henchmen!" At least "freedom to Angela Davis" and "but you have blacks hanged!" If you find something similar, please indicate. I will not write with slogans, I promise.
          "Explosive field generators", "the remnants of the Russians did not become cannon fodder" are spectacular phrases beyond my understanding without a clear context. I read about "confused states" as Google. True, I did not know that the concept of "matter" dropped out of the philosophical context and began to be interpreted more broadly. Apparently, the previous authors have failed to complete it.
          "It's cool to die of leukemia without being hit by EMP." Leukemia is a blood disease. Under EMP-electromagnetic radiation we walk every day, and of different power. The factory is larger, the houses are smaller.
          My friend, you write about one thing, do not skip from topic to topic. It is difficult to analyze you in such a fan of your thoughts.
          1. Altona
            Altona 13 June 2016 20: 49
            0
            PS If by all this you meant "plasma protection" of a fighter, then this aspect is very energy-consuming, and such batteries have not yet been invented. Yes, and they want to do it somehow locally and it is not clear at all what it will be. Either "to protect", or vice versa, to glow like a New Year tree. I found a book by our academician Fortov about explosive generators of powerful pulses of electric current. The topic is being studied.
            1. Zloy ork
              Zloy ork 13 June 2016 23: 08
              0
              It is correct to say not "plasma protection", but MHD flow around the airfoils. So it turns out why Raptors do not fly in the rain. It's not about the stealth paint, but about the method of free stream ionization. However, the airframe profile already includes the possibility of external combustion scramjet and preliminary ionization. This is what the laser is for in the cochlea of ​​the fiber under the wing, in reality it is not combat. Thank you for at least decided to read about explosive generators. The nicest application is the attack on the Pentagon on September 11th.
              1. Parsec
                Parsec 14 June 2016 00: 15
                0
                Quote: Zloy Ork
                The most nishtyakovy use - attack on the Pentagon on September 11.


                I have never heard. Does it make it difficult to give a link? Such an exotic.
                1. Zloy ork
                  Zloy ork 14 June 2016 07: 56
                  0
                  It all started with Basov's famous experiment on quantum resonators. The academician himself was a relativist and declined to comment. But since a lot of staff was involved, the official info leaked very quickly. And away we go .. The fact that there is no explanation for something does not mean that it cannot be used. Remember the scandal with showers in the registrars of accelerators remote from the CERN BEFORE a particle collision in the CERN itself? This is also one of the types of quantum teleportation. Physicists poop bricks, and military engineers use it. That’s all, in the evening we’ll agree about the hole in the Pentagon in detail, I ran.
              2. Altona
                Altona 14 June 2016 09: 37
                +1
                Quote: Zloy Ork
                It is correct to say not "plasma protection", but MHD flow around the airfoils.

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                I somehow do not care what their planes wrap around there. Everything that you write was studied in the world and in the USSR in particular back in the distant historical period. Namely, in the 1950s. The usefulness of this thing is very doubtful.
    2. Parsec
      Parsec 13 June 2016 20: 13
      +2
      Quote: Zloy Ork
      Do you even know what the confused states of matter are?


      You are confused with confused consciousness.

      This is how medical cards are read and begin to promote super-ideas.
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 13 June 2016 18: 46
    0
    According to The National Interest, the US Air Force has problems with spare parts so badly that they are sometimes forced to remove them from museum exhibits. Something similar was observed only in the CIS after the collapse of the Soviet Armed Forces.
  • mlad
    mlad 13 June 2016 19: 00
    +2
    And when "Donald Cook" was stuck optical processors in "Aegis", "Khibiny" went to the dustbin of history

    This is something new, this is the same revolution in electronics, but we don’t know. Do not wishful thinking!
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  • Alex_Tug
    Alex_Tug 13 June 2016 19: 21
    0
    Quote: pilot8878
    Quote: Damm
    I would advise the editorial staff of the National Interest to change this "wise" Indian with an unpronounceable name and surname, otherwise he makes the whole newspaper ridiculous.

    Quote: Damm
    He is a pack! But iksperd in everything! A week does not pass, so that something new does not become impudent. Well done, the main thing is paying money for it. Loh mattress all will come down

    I don’t understand why Mudozhmur did not please you? wink Good journalism-speziolizd on all military issues. laughing As you read, the mood improves.


    damn ... but about the money in more detail, maybe I’ll write a forecast for 10-20 years. high pay.
  • Altona
    Altona 13 June 2016 19: 24
    +1
    The article is just the height of informational content. New avionics, new radar and tede and tepe. Yes, it goes without saying. Almost 29 years have passed since the MiG-40 was lifted into the air, smartphones are already equal in power to computers. For a long time already, "analog" to "digital" was replaced even in household irons, and even an airplane even more so.
  • Idunavs
    Idunavs 13 June 2016 19: 31
    0
    Do you even know what the confused states of matter are?
    it's something cryptyshyn probably laughing
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 13 June 2016 19: 37
    0
    This mojumdor enemy is still that. and you lit a ... garden.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 13 June 2016 19: 59
    0
    Tfu on such analysts!
  • proud
    proud 13 June 2016 21: 06
    +1
    put it in a series for a start this plane, and then we'll see if he can fight or not!
  • tilix
    tilix 13 June 2016 21: 12
    +2
    Of course, it's too early to judge, but, IMHO, something so decent is emerging that even ours can take this platform, replace what you need with your own here and it will turn out to be a good dad. Of course, you don’t fly into space, but Ahzarit also started with T54. The main thing here is that the carcass is good.
    1. RedBaron
      RedBaron 14 June 2016 00: 27
      -2
      I can hardly imagine that scribe that will come if I have to buy Migi. Rather, there will be a resurrection of the Lavi program and cooperation with China.
      1. tilix
        tilix 14 June 2016 01: 05
        +1
        And what, someone cancels f-35?
        Of course not, but do the tuning for the instant-35?
        Imagine for a moment. I didn’t even give a paint.
        1. RedBaron
          RedBaron 14 June 2016 07: 44
          -2
          Tuning for third countries and so on is done for everything that the customer wants (especially India), but the purchase of a moment for his own air force, this really should be something to die, and a huge ... laughing
  • Legionnaire 030
    Legionnaire 030 13 June 2016 21: 15
    +1
    Good afternoon.
    The guys just read the news that the Israeli Air Force bombed the Syrian military. I have a question - the Russian Federation seems to have delivered Syria C 300, but so far the Israelis have bombed Syria and are bombing. Was all the praise of this complex in vain? Maybe someone heard something on this issue?
  • tinibar
    tinibar 13 June 2016 21: 21
    0
    Quote: ALABAY45
    I didn’t say anything about "The Russian MiG-35 is ready to fight the American F-22 and F-35"! I just compared Madzhuzhumdar with Zadornov and Petrosyan ... They are in the same weight category ... wink

    Well, if you say so, then you are not in your weight category ... This is me about shoulder straps. soldier
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 13 June 2016 21: 36
    0
    This MANDEZHMUR writes specially for the heading "You can't think of it on purpose!" There is no other way to explain the explosive mixture of blatant incompetence with caveman ignorance.
  • mlad
    mlad 13 June 2016 23: 12
    0
    Quote: Legionnaire 030
    Good afternoon.
    The guys just read the news that the Israeli Air Force bombed the Syrian military. I have a question - the Russian Federation seems to have delivered Syria C 300, but so far the Israelis have bombed Syria and are bombing. Was all the praise of this complex in vain? Maybe someone heard something on this issue?

    Syria does not have a C 300, an advance contract was not fulfilled which went to pay for other weapons
  • Simpsonian
    Simpsonian 14 June 2016 02: 14
    0
    With the F-35, even the MiG-21 can handle it. With the F-22, if you compare the characteristics, it will be difficult.
    1. RedBaron
      RedBaron 14 June 2016 07: 49
      0
      Quote: Simpsonian
      With the F-35, even the MiG-21 can handle it. With the F-22, if you compare the characteristics, it will be difficult.

      I will even say more. Wider. U-2 will cope, but what's there, even a flying cap with earflaps on a shaver!
  • mik6403
    mik6403 14 June 2016 03: 17
    0
    Not being a connoisseur of aviation novelties of combat aircraft construction, I would just like to note that, firstly, healthy competition will not harm Sukhoi, and secondly, having familiarized myself with the performance characteristics of the Su-35 and MiG-35 .... the aircraft are quite different both in terms of characteristics and tasks they will be set.
  • Leonid Har
    Leonid Har 14 June 2016 05: 16
    -2
    We will tear F35 and F22 like a turtle god.
  • lazy
    lazy 14 June 2016 09: 22
    0
    I for what instant would have developed a light fighter couple to the t-50. but a 21st century airplane cannot be a modification of an airplane of the 20th century. It shows. that as a result of the 90s, the Migov KB has become impotent and cannot give birth to new concepts. only old systems lick. but how many ruffles do not sew on an old dress, it's still an old dress. at least from 1.44 they worked, maybe it was more like a new one