The Pentagon is exploring the possibility of production in the United States of Russian small arms

Special Operations Command (SOCOM), turned to American weapons firms to begin developing "non-standard types of weapons and ammunition," reports The Washington Post with reference to the representative of the command of Matt Allen.

“We are exploring the potential and capabilities of the American industry to assemble those types of weapons that many of our foreign partners use,” said Allen.

The newspaper clarifies that “non-standard” weapons should be understood as “an AK assault rifle, SVD sniper rifle, Russian medium and large caliber machine guns, as well as 14,5 mm caliber aircraft.”

At the same time, Allen noted that “the production of such weapons by American companies will not only be a good use of budget funds, but will also have a positive impact on foreign partners who are more familiar with such weapons.”

According to him, "it is not yet known what the value of" non-standard "weapons produced in the United States will be and how affordable and high-quality they will be." Nevertheless, it is obvious that this initiative "will allow the US government to better control the production and distribution of such weapons."

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[Dmitry Potapov]

Albright in the know? B .... old!

[Amurets]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Albright in the know? B .... old!

And, will Yankees buy licenses? Or will Albright be in kind?

[sgazeev]

Quote: Amurets

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Albright in the know? B .... old!

And, will Yankees buy licenses? Or will Albright be in kind?

[Red_Hamer]

What licenses? What are you speaking about? Forgot how they clone RPG-7? This is the other must observe, this does not apply to "Exceptional". It's one thing to shout loudly about it to the whole world, it's another to do it yourself. And yes, this is what most likely everything in the photo knows. The question is, why do they need it?

[Alf]

Quote: Red_Hamer

The question is different, why do they need it?

The answer is simple, like a nail. Knock Russia out of traditional arms markets.

[poquello]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Red_Hamer

The question is different, why do they need it?

The answer is simple, like a nail. Knock Russia out of traditional arms markets.

but not too late? our new designs with old virtues and better

[Alf]

Quote: poquello

our new designs with old virtues and better

I agree, but how Pindocs can sell ... to retract their own, it can be very dangerous. F-35 as an example. The plane does not really fly, but is already for sale.

[poquello]

Quote: Alf

Quote: poquello

our new designs with old virtues and better

I agree, but how Pindocs can sell ... to retract their own, it can be very dangerous. F-35 as an example. The plane does not really fly, but is already for sale.

))) that's for sure

[Vadim237]

F 35 still flies, this plane has problems only with BERO, as it is too tricked out.

[poquello]

Quote: Vadim237

F 35 still flies, this plane has problems only with BERO, as it is too tricked out.

when they will be heard, then I will believe, but now nothing is heard except their problems

[aikon1974]

Oooh How terrible she is.

[weksha50]

Quote: Amurets

Will the Yankees buy licenses?

But this little article surprised me, especially, in particular, about Kalash and SVD ...

They have been producing them for a long time and selling them in private stores without any licenses (I can’t say anything for the quality of this weapon) ... There, the Kalashnikov concern tried to achieve something, but, it seems to me, to no avail ...

So I don’t understand where the problem came from ...

PS It would be possible to make much more claims against China regarding the copying of our modern types of weapons, but there are no sound effects ...

[avg]

... this initiative "will allow the US government to better control the production and distribution of such weapons."

I immediately recognize the world's most honest merchants, guardians of the principles of the WTO and fighters against piracy.
We need not complex, but absolutely officially replicate the necessary equipment, comp. programs, films and away.

[avt]

Quote: weksha50

So I don’t understand where the problem came from ...

They don’t want to buy for their own, they need full-time weapons in the form of Kalash and SVD.

[NEXUS]

Quote: avt

They don’t want to buy for their own, they need full-time weapons in the form of Kalash and SVD.

We decided not to reinvent the wheel, but stupidly produce ours ... maybe they expect to modernize our same AK and SVD, having received a qualitatively improved serial model of weapons without high research costs. on your shoulders "we will use your developments.
Economists, damn it (through yat).

[Andrey K]

Quote: NEXUS

You there are Russians puff, develop new, and we "on your shoulders" will use your developments.
Economists, damn it (through yat).

Already launched a modernized AK Alfa, for the civilian market, from the arms company Kalashnikov USA

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey K

Already launched a modernized AK Alfa, for the civilian market, from the arms company Kalashnikov USA

It looks elegant ... but at cost what is this product of the American pirate defense industry?

[poquello]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Andrey K

Already launched a modernized AK Alfa, for the civilian market, from the arms company Kalashnikov USA

It looks smart ...

look at him? weaving in the hands is good, but this xs

[Andrey K]

Quote: NEXUS

It looks elegant ... but at cost what is this product of the American pirate defense industry?

My friend honestly say HZ, there is generally a wild mutnyak with the brand, with the organization of this particular production. Kalashi in the states were so produced, in small batches, with their markups, but produced. According to AK Alfa, silence, although it was spotlighted in January, at the Shot Show 2016

[Amurets]

Quote: weksha50

So I don’t understand where the problem came from ..

Most likely, there is not enough native Soviet, in NATO warehouses, only for its own special forces. Commercial, expensive because it is of high quality. And for Papuans and ape-like cheap fakes are suitable, besides, they can be stamped out of the "boil". Only in this way I see the problem, since we are talking about mass production. Our cartridges are also produced all over the world.

[poquello]

Quote: Amurets

Quote: weksha50

So I don’t understand where the problem came from ..

Most likely, there is not enough native Soviet, in NATO warehouses, only for its own special forces. Commercial, expensive because it is of high quality. And for Papuans and ape-like cheap fakes are suitable, besides, they can be stamped out of the "boil". Only in this way I see the problem, since we are talking about mass production. Our cartridges are also produced all over the world.

most likely there aren’t enough Bulgarian etc. for friends and anonymity of supplies is needed, plus friends don’t really like to fight with their magic super-super rifles

[Red_Hamer]

Well, I don’t know anything like that. They are already churning out RPG-7s, and their warriors are learning to use it. And I immediately remember all our closest "friends" from north to south (from the Baltic to the Black Sea) along the western borders. Whose population is accustomed to use, for the most part, just such a weapon. It's not that simple. Although what you have noticed is also relevant about stamping. A good bourgeois, must be able to pursue several goals at once, it is such a benefit.

[Amurets]

Quote: Red_Hamer

Well, I don’t know everything like that. RPG-7 they are already stamping in full, and their warriors are learning to use it

For themselves, the Yankees have long been producing our weapons in small batches. For market sales and for special forces and training centers. But there are not many weapons there. The price is not critical there. Another thing is when there is mass production, when every overpaid cent for production, the finished product brings a shortfall in profit in dollars.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Red_Hamer

Well, I don’t know everything like that. RPG-7 they are already stamping in full, and their warriors are learning to use it.

They not only learn
This is such an "exceptional nation" that they manage to teach those who have the same RPG-7, has been in service since 1961
Idiocy and overwhelming conceit

[NDR-791]

all our closest "friends" from north to south (from the Baltic to the Black Sea) along the western borders. Whose population is accustomed to use, for the most part, just such a weapon. It's not that simple. Although what you noticed is also relevant about stamping
I think this is a very important point. China will not put anything into the tribalty, but for our garden THEIR "wunderwafli" is both expensive and not reliable! Well, about stamping - which of such cool commerce as the Yankees will give cattle an expensive disposable toy. So everything is in color.

[razmik72]

Quote: Amurets

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Albright in the know? B .... old!

And, will Yankees buy licenses? Or will Albright be in kind?

I wish you have a good time with this lady in years. .

[dmitriyruss]

What ..... license, the States are preparing for war. Our weapons need special operations forces to work on our territory ....

[Hon]

For special operations, mass production may not be necessary; they need to arm partners

[dmitriyruss]

And where in the article is it about mass production?

[Hon]

And they have been producing small batches for a long time.

[Amurets]

Quote: dmitriyruss

What ..... license, the States are preparing for war. Our weapons need special operations forces to work on our territory ....

Quote: Hon

For special operations, mass production may not be necessary; they need to arm partners

But correctly noted about mass production. For its special forces, NATO has weapons of our production. They got stocks of weapons from warehouses of the Warsaw Pact countries, in extreme cases, you can buy from the American company Kalashnikov with cyanide barrels and high-quality steel assemblies, according to the statement But the price immediately jumps up sharply. And here you can cash in on cheap fakes, and even declare our weapons bad.

[Bayonet]

Quote: dmitriyruss

Our weapons need special operations forces to work on our territory ....

Well, if you admit that the Americans will "work on our territory," then maybe we can arrange the production of NATO small arms for our future guerrillas? So that there were no problems with ammunition.

[Hon]

What for? Patents have long expired, AK is stamped by everyone

[Pimply]

Quote: Amurets

And, will Yankees buy licenses? Or will Albright be in kind?

What is the license for? For expired patents? And in the course that on the same AK hundredth series, now only new nodes and solutions are patented?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Amurets

Will Albright in kind be calculated?

Are you ready to take it?

[iConst]

Quote: Amurets

Will the Yankees buy licenses?

There is a feverish search for a penny's earnings, while at the same time competing with Russia, plus the recognition that the price / quality ratio of Russian weapons is unrivaled.

I read a note by A. Rogers about the fact that the Yankees are in a hurry in anticipation of the crippling priests. I have the same nonsense ...

[meriem1]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Albright in the know? B .... old!

There is a separate story about her. She forgot how the Serbs saved her little Jewish girl from the Nazis ... The debt payment was impressive ((((

[Juborg]

Global thieves said the US will do or vice versa. The point is not changing.

[Barakuda]

But what about the sanctions As far as I understand, we are talking only about ammunition. The article is nonsense somehow. Or already "Igilovtsev" are running out of ..

[Berkut24]

The newspaper clarifies that under the "non-standard" weapons should be understood as "AK assault rifle, SVD sniper rifle, Russian medium and large caliber machine guns.

Dolbyotyatly! According to the statistics of use, all of the above is the most standard weapon in the world!

[meriem1]

The vaunted NATO standard hit the wall. Immediately I remembered the screeching of the minority of the Russian society ... about "backward" technologies! What people who think in Russian have come up with is hard to beat. You can't fly into space on an iPhone ... To be continued !!!

[sgazeev]

Quote: meriem1

The vaunted NATO standard hit the wall. Immediately I remembered the screeching of the minority of the Russian society ... about "backward" technologies! What people who think in Russian have come up with is hard to beat. You can't fly into space on an iPhone ... To be continued !!!

It looks like the bottom sections of the former "allies" are empty.

[Hon]

In Iraq, Afghanistan and others, there are no NATO standards, they have the most common ammunition 7,62x39 and 7,62x54, and they need weapons for them. NATO standards are necessary for unification, so that every country has weapons for a single ammunition, this simplifies the supply and reduces the cost of production.
Therefore, tanks and cannons for one type of ammunition

[poquello]

Quote: Hon

In Iraq, Afghanistan and others, there are no NATO standards, they have the most common ammunition 7,62x39 and 7,62x54, and they need weapons for them.

that's interesting, just in Afghanistan, we ran into a rake with a reduced, with a shifted center of gravity, spirits stupidly saved the bushes, everything flew past to tears

[Hon]

In Afghanistan, after all, the junges are continuous

[poquello]

Quote: Hon

In Afghanistan, after all, the junges are continuous

- "The lieutenant is a butterfly!"

[Hon]

You yourself saw the photo you posted? Rare bushes are certainly a serious obstacle.

[poquello]

Quote: Hon

You yourself saw the photo you posted? Rare bushes are certainly a serious obstacle.

Have you read my post? from the bush everything is past

[Hon]

Yes, Neger is not past there, in Chechnya, fights in the green took place more than once, and most of the machine guns in our troops were 5.45, by the way, the militants also used them. Bushes affect accuracy, but not so much as to consider them as a serious obstacle. There are more urban legends, cham reality

[poquello]

Quote: Hon

Yes, Neger is not past there, in Chechnya, fights in the green took place more than once, and most of the machine guns in our troops were 5.45, by the way, the militants also used them. Bushes affect accuracy, but not so much as to consider them as a serious obstacle. There are more urban legends, cham reality

I believe that the balance of the bullet was changed to Chechnya, so as not to tumble so much

[Hon]

What is the balance of the bullet ??? What nonsense ???

[novobranets]

Quote: poquello

reduced rake with a shifted center of gravity

This is all a myth. There is no "shifted center of gravity" in the world. Ballistics objects to this notion.

[Tusv]

You remember that. You have to pay for a license

[CORNET]

Quote: Tusv

You remember that. You have to pay for a license

Will have to pick it up again ...))))
Russia, although a "generous soul", but everything has a limit ...

[Tusv]

Quote: CORNET

Russia, although a "generous soul", has a limit to everything ..

Churchill is right! The Russian generous soul has its monetization when they spit on it

[Hon]

What exactly are you going to pick up?

[Rurikovich]

It can be seen that those to whom American aid is addressed (ISIS, the "democratic opposition") are unhappy with the weapons provided. Give them ours ... Here they are spinning

[figwam]

That engines for missiles, now weapons, these are our developments, but they will not crack?

[Donlomakin]

The newspaper clarifies that “non-standard” weapons should be understood as “an AK assault rifle, SVD sniper rifle, Russian medium and large caliber machine guns, as well as 14,5 mm caliber aircraft.”

They plan to abandon the purchase of Russian rocket engines, and then they want to produce our weapons. Where is the logic?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Donlomakin

They plan to abandon the purchase of Russian rocket engines

- the news "sour" slightly:

Quote: http://ria.ru/science/20160611/1445752871.html#ixzz4BFl0EWhS

MOSCOW, Jun 11 - RIA News. US Senate reaches agreement on continued procurement of Russian rocket engines RD-180Senator Richard Shelby told Sputnik.
"We have agreed on this issue. The deal (for purchases - ed.) Until 2022 and 18 rocket engines," Shelby said

[Vadim237]

18 rocket engines in 6 years - that's not enough.

[Hon]

The logic is that engines are bought from Russia and weapons will be produced at home

[Coconut]

Quote: figvam

That engines for rockets, now weapons, but does not crack crack?

mattresses will not crack they have it stretching like your avatar

[APASUS]

I don’t know how much money we spent on an operation in Syria, and I don’t think we will know the exact data, but the consequences will probably last more than one year. If even the Americans recognized the excellent fighting qualities of our small arms, this is something new.

[weksha50]

Quote: APASUS

Even if the Americans recognized the excellent combat qualities of our small arms, this is something new.

Nothing new ... Among ordinary US citizens, the opinion about our Kalash and SVD has long been rather high ... In private stores, this weapon does not staleIt is produced by individual Amer companies, naturally, without licenses and not huge industrial parties on an army scale ...

[Hon]

They admitted the 7,62x39 cartridge, it is widespread everywhere, so it's cheaper to supply "friends"
The operation in Syria was carried out by bombs and missiles, and they plan to produce small arms

[Altona]

I can only say one thing - this weapon will be very expensive, several times more expensive than the original and at the same time not being the original. So commercial success is more than doubtful. In the USA, the Kalashnikov assault rifle is still being produced after our concern was rudely pushed out by "sanctions". As for the Russian and especially Soviet samples, if they are older than 1986, then they can not be registered and generally collected in their collection as an antic gun, well, like a flintlock gun of 1812, for example. So the fig knows whether this "business model" will go or not. Moreover, the Bulgarian "brothers" from Arsenal make replicas, the Serbian Zastava, the Czechs Zbroevka, the Romanians, the Chinese.

[Hon]

This is why it must be expensive? In Russia, production is very expensive.

[Altona]

Quote: Hon

This is why it must be expensive? In Russia, production is very expensive.

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So they will be anyway more expensive. They are now assembling their Kalashnikovs from Bulgarian arsenal components.

[Hon]

Why should it be expensive? They are able to organize production with minimal cost, taking into account high quality.

[lukke]

Why should it be expensive? They are able to organize production with minimal cost.

and the Americans know how to equip their weapons with their sixes in a voluntary-forced manner. So from this we do not benefit from any.

[Hon]

India has signed a contract for the purchase of US attack helicopters. India is the sixth USA?

[aszzz888]

Why would Mackayushka say so? Or will his heartburn end?

[mamont5]

Quote: Amurets

And, will Yankees buy licenses? Or will Albright be in kind?

What is the license? For a long time all the deadlines have passed.

[sgazeev]

Kalash looks simple, they still have to work hard to find the manufacturing nuances. Romanians with Bulgarians make outright rubbish.

[Hon]

The most common AKs are made in China and not in Russia, and they are not inferior in quality

[Mountain shooter]

Americans have long respected the Kalashnikov. But here is the problem with the "allies". They do not want to shoot from the M16. Give them Kalashnikov, RPG-7 and RPK. But considerations of conscience and the rights of striped ears NEVER stopped. "This is business, baby"! That's the whole answer. And what else does the hegemon need 10 AUG for? And hundreds of military bases around the world? It is in order to resolve any issues ONLY in their favor. And if the rules of the game (through an oversight or circumstance) lead to a loss, to hell with the rules! And it doesn't matter that they were introduced by them ... Who introduced the WTO? How do economic sanctions correlate with it? Etc.

[Hon]

Cartridges for M16 in many regions are scarce

[oldzek]

and maybe not for the Allies, but for themselves. I remember even during the Vietnam War, the Americans preferred the AK-47 to their M-14 and M-16 in the hope of trophy ammunition. This was written in their press.

[Hon]

And they got a bullet from their own, because in the jungle the shooting is often to the sound. And if somewhere near I plotted AK ...

[Smoke]

So it will reach the printing of rubles ...))

[Evil 55]

What about patent law and copyright infringement? Ping..dos want to "pile" on their cherished copyright laws?

[Hon]

Dates are out

[Appraiser]

The Russian Federation should ban the United States, and if they disobey, apply sanctions to them ...

[Hon]

Which for example?

[behemot]

about license fees do not forget, the Yankees are thieving.

[dmitriyruss]

Another proof of preparations for war is the purchase of weapons of the alleged enemy. Their special forces will not be able to work on our territory with their weapons - ammunition .... where to get in the rear?

[shura7782]

The Pentagon is exploring the possibility of production in the United States of Russian small arms
This means that negotiations with Russia are possible. What's better? To give them the opportunity to do this for money or they will be riveted according to their understanding, without asking us.
Of course, it is nice that the quality of our weapons is so highly rated. But I don't like this news.

[Ros 56]

Uh no. Exceptional should use only their own. Hey, the head is black, so how do you have it with exclusivity? What, everything is so exceptionally shitty with your M-16 and other crap. This is a zrad from zrad. And we won’t give you permission, but violate the law, we’ll bring it through the courts, and we’ll make such exceptional money.

[PBF]

Now in the US Army, a new puzzle. How to use a bayonet knife from AK to overcome a wire blockage. After all, wretched, or I’ll go crazy from thought or be crippled.

[Million]

The U.S. state is a parasite on planet Earth. All evil from them

[dmitriyruss]

And the States are sincerely convinced that the problems of the "civilized" world are solely due to Russia

[1536]

They want to organize large-scale provocations using fakes of our weapons in order to blame Russia for all their bloody crimes.
I understand that patent protection will not work, will the theft of Americans be legalized? This is banditry at the state level, and the United States is a gang of gangs and nothing more.

[cap]

“According to him,“ it is not yet known what the cost of “non-standard” weapons produced in the USA will be, and how affordable and high quality they will be. ”Nevertheless, it is clear that this initiative“ will allow the US government to better control the production and distribution of such weapons ” ...

How are they doing with licenses today.
Can anyone enlighten in the subject?
I heard that only Venezuela legally licensed for AKM.

[akims]

Another proof of preparations for war is the purchase of weapons of the alleged enemy. Their special forces will not be able to work on our territory with their weapons - ammunition .... where to get in the rear?

They are going to produce analogues of the AK-47 caliber 7,62. I do not understand what kind of rear are you talking about?
And about the production and modernization ...
At the discovery they filmed a test series - "Guys with Cannons".
Recommend. There they made a sniper rifle from Kalash. The purchase price of the old Kalash - 100 bucks. After upgrading without a sight - 1500 bucks.

[Denis Skiff]

Quote: figvam

That engines for missiles, now weapons, these are our developments, but they will not crack?

and we will copy their computer technologies temporarily until we create normal ones, and not this ge.
and the day will come when they will try to copy in this area too.

[iouris]

Let copy, catch up. We must not catch up with them, but run in the cross. There is no point arguing with Americans about patents and intellectual property protection.

[Disorder]

And in the photo - AK-47.

[Red_Hamer]

“We are exploring the potential and capabilities of American industry to assemble the types of weapons that many of our foreign partners use,” Allen said.

They just don't learn anything. Why do they need it? Now we are talking about AK, SVD, as well as Russian heavy and light machine guns and 14,5 mm aircraft machine guns. At the same time, they are already releasing RPG-7 clones in full, and there is no question of a license at all. They prepare "friends of Russia" from the territories closest to it, since the majority of the local male population knows how to use just such samples. And they teach their fighters to the weapon of a potential "partner". At the same time, they will try to squeeze out this "partner" (Russia) from its traditional arms markets (where we supply such).

[grandfather]

I propose to study the possibility of producing in the right quantities, the dollar and the yuan

[erased]

Nobody talks about patents, the Yankees don't give a damn, and ours pretend that nothing happened. But here it is full of lovers of neighing over obsolete SVD, AKM not boring, KPVT and NSV / Kord unnecessary and so on.
If it is decided to pay pensions not to our veterans, but to Israeli ones, then who will say a word in defense of the copyrights of some Asians there?

[Vladimir61]

“We are exploring the potential and capabilities of American industry to assemble the types of weapons that many of our foreign partners use,” Allen said.

Interesting girls are dancing - in fact they gave out that Russia, in this case, was in their partners! Although, after the story with the RD-180, one should not be surprised. It is a pity that the state of foreign investment in the economy is deplorable and almost impossible to adequately impose retaliatory sanctions.

[hunt1]

but for some reason I thought that the Yankees have been stamping them for a long time because everyone can be special and whoever doesn’t like it has no democracy or oil has found worse.

[semuel]

They want to move us into the market of their own weapons. And what quality this weapon will not matter, they can sell. To every tribe who cares what is the resource of the barrel, and if not to never mind, they will be told that they’re awesome, they won’t believe the Americans? .

[Jackking]

Can not be ! But what about the best in the world, practically requiring no cleaning (first steps in Vietnam), M16. This is an icon of democracy !!! :)))

[Hon]

With cartridges, the problem is in some regions, and 7,62x39 heaps.

[voyaka uh]

This was requested by commandos who work as instructors in Iraq and Syria.
Everyone has AKMs there, and they have M-. They must be trained in shooting, therefore they themselves must
train in advance with the same weapons that their cadets will have.

[poquello]

Quote: voyaka uh

This was requested by commandos who work as instructors in Iraq and Syria.
Everyone has AKMs there, and they have M-. They must be trained in shooting, therefore they themselves must
train in advance with the same weapons that their cadets will have.

and why didn’t you find it? ))))

[Parsec]

Quote: voyaka uh

Everyone has AKMs there, and they have M-. They must be trained in shooting, therefore they themselves must
train in advance with the same weapons that their cadets will have.

In these your Internet and you will not understand who is kidding, and who is a real stupid person.

[potapych]

so it is necessary to fake their ammunition and sell it cheaper to interested countries.

[Bayonet]

In the 1950s, licenses for the production of Kalashnikov rifles (AKs) were transferred to the USSR to eighteen countries, mainly allies under the Warsaw Treaty. Then another eleven states launched the production of AK without a license. The number of countries in which AK was produced without a license in small batches, and even more so artisanally, can not be counted. To date, according to Rosoboronexport, the licenses of all the countries that previously received them have already expired, however, production continues, since all possible patent protection periods for the original AK (creation year 1949) and AKM (1959) have expired. year of creation). The production of AK clones was launched in Asia, Africa, the Middle East, Europe and the USA, both under the license of Izhmash OJSC and without it.
That’s the whole argument. Why wave your hands?

[erik cartman]

Quote: Amurets

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Albright in the know? B .... old!

And, will Yankees buy licenses? Or will Albright be in kind?

Madame Clinton pays off in kind, and of course Psaki after the decree.