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NATO exercises: Do not climb a bear with a pen knife. (Agora Vox, France)

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NATO exercises: Do not climb a bear with a pen knife. (Agora Vox, France)



Three B-52 strategic bomber (this stuff, by the way, has been in service since 1955, and it was she who dumped millions of tons of bombs and chemicals on Vietnam) should take part in the military exercises BALTOPS 16 and Saber Strike 16, which run from 3 to 19 more than 6 of thousands of military from 15 of NATO member countries, as well as Swedish and Finnish soldiers. The Saber Strike teachings with the participation of 13 states began in Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia on 27 in May and will continue until June in 22.

NATO is a military machine that has no other purpose left (due to the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact Organization), except to serve the interests of financial tycoons and American companies that are striving for world hegemony and plunder of the entire planet. Can you imagine what the opposition of the Russian and NATO troops could lead to? Think it's over a couple of shootings? A naive and even stupid opinion: NATO, like Russia, has a nuclear arsenal of apocalyptic proportions. And since neither side wants to lose face, what will happen in a direct, even if limited, collision? Bombs will fly ...

NATO, weapon The collapsing American system of economic and financial domination leads the world to war, supporting the antics of the former eastern bloc countries, Poland, the Baltic states, and Ukraine. What do large-scale exercises at the Russian borders mean? Is this generally reasonable? Who should this scare? Putin's? On the contrary, it only pleases him, because he gives an excuse for the enormous expenses for the modernization of the army. Is it possible to instill fear in a bear by attacking him with a penknife?

In fact, Russia does not threaten Europe with anything. Russia is not our enemy. But the policy of the United States and its vassal allies is intended to create just such an impression. The development of NATO bases and the expansion of its infrastructure should increase the influence of the alliance in Europe, force the member countries to allocate additional resources for the maintenance of troops and sow alarm among the allies. Perhaps it is time to realize these facts and look into their faces.
And it looks not too nice. Since a full-scale war in Europe would be a threat to the existence of the Russian state and nation, they are taking steps to demonstrate unequivocally that the United States would have to pay a huge price for the attack. The defense weapons being formed by Russia are at the level of the NATO threat. And further - more.

Until recently, Russia did not believe in the classic military threat from the NATO forces. And did not use significant resources to protect against fictitious threats. Now this approach is changing dramatically.
Armored vehicles. Russia rearmament the prestigious 1st Guards tank the army. Now she is armed with T-72B3 and T-80 battle tanks, but they will be replaced by the revolutionary T-14 Armata. New vehicles will also replace the current armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. Mi-28 and Ka-52 attack helicopters will provide support for armored vehicles from the air. The West has nothing to answer for such armored forces.

Tactical missiles. The new Iskander-M missile system is a dangerous weapon from any point of view. Although technically speaking, this is a short-range tactical missile (less than 1 000 km with an official range of 500 km), it can be used to launch P-500 with a range of 2 thousand km. It has the highest accuracy, can perform anti-missile functions, reaches supersonic speed and can hardly be detected from the ground. These missiles will be able to destroy all units and equipment of NATO and the United States in Eastern Europe and, if necessary, open the way for the 1 tank army.

Intercontinental Missiles. However, neither the tanks nor the Iskander-M complexes pose a threat to the United States. Therefore, Russia needs a weapon that can sow panic in the Pentagon and the White House. PC-28 "Sarmat" (SS X-30 according to NATO classification) raises fear to a previously unprecedented level. Sarmat flies at speed in 20 Mach (24 500 km / h), capable of carrying from 10 to 15 charges with separable warheads and hit any target anywhere on the planet along any trajectory. All this together means the impossibility of intercepting a missile and its warheads. In addition, "Sarmat" can bear the usual charge to defeat the enemy fortifications in a non-nuclear conflict. This is possible thanks to the amazing accuracy of Sarmat (10 meters) and a short preparation time for launch (less than 60 seconds).

Strategic torpedoes. The strategic torpedo “Status-6” can go at a depth of up to 1 thousand meters with a speed of up to 185 km / h and a range of 10 thousand kilometers. It is carried by specially modified submarines. It can be used against aircraft carrier groups and bases of the American fleet (in particular, strategic submarine bases), and in the most terrible configuration, it can serve as a means of delivering cobalt bombs that create a zone of radioactive contamination over a large territory. Given that most American cities and industrial centers are located on the coast, this makes them especially vulnerable to attacks from torpedoes.

Other weapons. The RT-23 UTTH rocket complexes are deployed in trains that are in constant motion in the boundless Russian railway network. And it is impossible to find them. Demonstrated in action during the war in Syria, the Caliber missile can be launched from a regular cargo container that you have seen more than once in wagons, trains and ships. As you remember, the Caliber can hit any target at a distance of up to 4 thousands of meters and carry a nuclear warhead. Will it be difficult for Russia to deploy these cruise missiles along the US coast on board conventional container ships?

So, should we, the French and Europeans, make our existence dependent on the whims of the Pentagon megalomanes, who are also manipulated by the US military-industrial complex?

Russians are ordinary people. They are afraid of war and want to avoid it. The last cost them 28 millions of lives ... But they are ready, if necessary. This is a unique feature of Russian culture, which the West has misinterpreted countless times in the last thousand years. Europeans have repeatedly attacked Russia, but there were waiting for them such fights that they had not even dreamed of in the worst nightmare. Napoleon and Hitler dug their own graves there. That is why the Russians say: “It’s not Russia that starts the war, but it always ends them.”

When will the French and Germans finally realize that the Americans are pushing them into chaos? Even if one country withdrew from NATO, the coalition would be seriously cracked, because no one in Europe is interested in an armed conflict with Russia. This country can only be France. De Gaulle understood this perfectly, but the miserable Sarkozy and Hollande who had brought only disappointment wiped off the Gaullist legacy, and France today has to go on about all the nonsense of the United States - a country that has been confused by absolute absolute power on the planet.

France was ousted from the European governing systems by the arrogant and hegemonic Germany. So is it time for Paris to get out of the disruptive alliance for it and begin a serious rapprochement with Moscow? If Germany is between Russia and France, the two economic, military and nuclear powers, members of the UN Security Council, she will quickly understand what her interest is. This will allow the formation of the Paris-Berlin-Moscow axis, which will be able to sober up the Washington madmen and their London vassals.
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  1. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 9 June 2016 05: 56
    +33
    Three strategic B-52 bombers (this junk, by the way, has been in service since 1955,

    yeah, especially considering that the armament and our army is the same machine (Tu-95)
    A good start to the article when strategists are called junk.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 9 June 2016 06: 00
      +45
      Quote: cth; fyn
      A good start to the article
      So further it is even more enchanting - and the hypersonic "Sarmatians" are already flying here, and the BZHRK are on duty, and the tank army of the invasion is completely rearmed on the "Armata". smile
      But, like a horror story for the French layman, it is quite impressive. And the conclusions are correct.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 06: 08
        +25
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Strategic torpedo "Status-6" can go at a depth of up to 1 thousand meters with a speed of 185 km / h and a range of 10 thousand kilometers

        The strategic torpedo “Status-6” can go at a depth of up to 1 thousand meters with a speed of up to 185 km / h and a range of 10 thousand kilometers ... OH EVERYTHING ... fellow !
        1. Kostyar
          Kostyar 9 June 2016 07: 46
          +17
          A good start to the article when strategists are called junk.
          ... like a horror story for a French layman, quite impressive. And the conclusions are correct.


          In the info war, all means are good, now they are there .... they don’t sleep at night !!!
        2. silver_roman
          silver_roman 10 June 2016 09: 17
          +3
          yeah, and Putin on the dragon can capture the Baltic states in 60 seconds. wassat
          I love such phrases. You never know who can ... but it must be conveyed to the paranoid brain of each Baltic.
      2. Karasik
        Karasik 9 June 2016 06: 27
        +57
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        ... like a horror story for a French layman, quite impressive. And the conclusions are correct.

        Absolutely agree. More such articles (and not only in France) to sober up hot heads and form the correct public opinion. This is also one of the important elements of modern warfare.
      3. Ivan_ich
        Ivan_ich 9 June 2016 06: 47
        +21
        More such articles in French newspapers ...
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 10 June 2016 20: 23
          +7
          Quote: Ivan_ich
          More such articles in French newspapers ...

          And not only in French, but in general in all European states. Although the plot of the article introduces a normal Russian into a stupor ... Status-6, BZHRD, hordes of Armat, standing ALREADY Sarmatians ...
          But the message is correct. yes
          1. gavrosh.ru
            gavrosh.ru 11 June 2016 02: 25
            -2
            why is it true then? in 812 and 941 they used this promise. Directly under a carbon copy - they rally the population before mobilization to the eastern front
      4. Corsair
        Corsair 9 June 2016 09: 21
        +8
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        So further it is even more enchanting - and the hypersonic "Sarmatians" are already flying here, and the BZHRK are on duty, and the tank army of the invasion is completely rearmed on the "Armata". smile
        But, like a horror story for the French layman, it is quite impressive. And the conclusions are correct.

        Duc cel doesn’t talk about the war right tomorrow, he writes that the Americans are saying all kinds of disadvantages such as Poland, the Baltic states and dill, and if they’ll get everything, then he writes about the future, now there are no direct conflicts, although there’s tension is growing.
      5. Altona
        Altona 9 June 2016 10: 31
        +10
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        So further it is even more enchanting - and the hypersonic "Sarmatians" are already flying here, and the BZHRK are on duty, and the tank army of the invasion is completely rearmed on the "Armata".

        ------------------------
        The author of the article is a publicist and uses open sources. He cannot come to the Ministry of Defense and ask for secret data on the complete performance characteristics of our weapons and their presence in the troops. But Russia has technological capabilities, to design and put on stream any types of modern weapons indicated by the author, all that is needed is the political will and support of its designers, and not "effective managers." Even if the author exaggerated, he did it deliberately, saying that Russia is not a dead cat, but a completely confident bear who will crush a pack of NATO mongrels in Europe and knock their dog breeder on the head in the USA.
        1. Manul
          Manul 9 June 2016 11: 20
          +2
          Quote: Altona
          The author of the article is a publicist and uses open sources. He can’t come to the Ministry of Defense and ask for secret information about the complete performance characteristics of our weapons and their presence in the troops.

          It is a shame to colleagues that the author does not read VO wink
      6. GSH-18
        GSH-18 10 June 2016 00: 37
        +6
        NATO exercises: Do not climb a bear with a pen knife. (Agora Vox, France)

        In general, thoughts are sound. Article unconditional +! I am glad that in France there are literate and thinking people yes
        1. gavrosh.ru
          gavrosh.ru 11 June 2016 02: 27
          0
          before evil Cossacks in newspapers painted - now the Sarmatians. clearly thinking people. question what are these people thinking
      7. polkovnik manuch
        polkovnik manuch 10 June 2016 22: 01
        +1
        Yeah! We still have political instructors, as the saying goes; "3,14 to get naked - do not roll bags!" - if all that was said was available, and not in the mid-term plans.
      8. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 01
        0
        Before this becomes a true truth, not so long is left! So let them start thinking: to live in friendship with us Russians, or die in fear and pain for overseas overgrown idiots!
      9. gavrosh.ru
        gavrosh.ru 11 June 2016 02: 21
        0
        eh) and suddenly it was so true - as the enemy wrote the scribblers. lately, the couple cannot boast of their power; they’re just like before barbarossa (we boasted about the current there)
    2. Teberii
      Teberii 9 June 2016 06: 02
      +2
      Let them spend how they’ll play enough and calm down. The main thing is to be prepared yourself.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 06: 03
      +1
      Quote: cth; fyn
      yeah, especially considering that the armament and our army is the same machine (Tu-95)

      the same, he stood on the wing in the 52nd ... but to us, do not fall for it! because as ours! repeat
      1. gringo
        gringo 9 June 2016 08: 50
        +15
        we do not have a single Tu 95 over 25 years old. B52 last built in 63 so that our not quite rubbish
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 13: 25
          -3
          Quote: gringo
          . B52 last built in 63

          modernization does not count of course ...
          1. gringo
            gringo 9 June 2016 13: 53
            +4
            all of our Tu 95 went through modernization that's for sure. B52 last glider built in 1962. 60 year old glider, if you don’t upgrade it, as it was rubbish, it will remain so rubbish.
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 15: 09
              -4
              Quote: gringo
              all of our Tu 95 went through modernization that's for sure. B52 last glider built in 1962. 60 year old glider, if you don’t upgrade it, as it was rubbish, it will remain so rubbish.

              modernize avionics ...
              1. gringo
                gringo 10 June 2016 08: 42
                +5
                my father-in-law has a VAZ 21011 of 73 years old and a couple how he doesn’t upgrade avionics there, it doesn’t work well Ferrari
                1. silver_roman
                  silver_roman 10 June 2016 09: 21
                  -1
                  Gliders on our Tu-95 are about the same age as their B-52, but a deep modernization keeps them afloat.
                  If I’m not mistaken, then during the passage of modernization, the aircraft understands to the screw, ALL gets over. The fatigue of the metal is probably more connected with the fatigue of the entire airframe structure at the places of fastening parts. Of course duralumin is subject to aging, but 50 years is not enough for a monolithic sheet of metal!
                  About 25 years you got excited.

                  Quote: gringo
                  VAZ 21011 73goda and a couple how he doesn’t upgrade avionics there Ferrari doesn’t work well

                  There is an Italian soul with a taste of the USSR laughing
    4. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 9 June 2016 06: 04
      -16%
      . Bombs will fly ...

      About even worse: Everything is gone! Everything is lost! Save who can!
      Then comes "Hurray for patriotic frenzy" and at the end of the call "Proletarians of Europe throw off the shackles of slavery!"
      Are you seriously?!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 06: 12
        +2
        Quote: cth; fyn
        Are you seriously?!

        French sir ...
        1. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 9 June 2016 06: 20
          +1
          D'Artagnan tovarish ...;)
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 9 June 2016 13: 27
            +2
            Quote: cth; fyn
            D'Artagnan tovarish ...;)

            "Shura, if you have decided to finally switch to" French ", then call me" situainen "(C). Ilf and Petrov. laughing
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 05
        0
        And you are a joker, however. tongue
    5. ProtectRusOrDie
      ProtectRusOrDie 9 June 2016 06: 08
      +17
      Quote: cth; fyn
      Three strategic B-52 bombers (this junk, by the way, has been in service since 1955,

      yeah, especially considering that the armament and our army is the same machine (Tu-95)
      A good start to the article when strategists are called junk.


      If jokingly - then they are both junk compared to the White Swan.
      If seriously, I agree, not everything is correctly written in the article (which, incidentally, is characteristic of European journalists), but there is a rational grain.

      I mean, the message of this article is correct.
      "When will the French and Germans finally realize that the Americans are pushing them into chaos? If even one country left NATO, the coalition would have seriously cracked, because no one in Europe is interested in an armed conflict with Russia."

      Naturally, for most Europeans, this article will go unnoticed, however, it pleases that the number of such people is increasing in the Western press.

      So there is a "nonzero" probability that the mind will eventually prevail (not without a blow to the head, of course, but nevertheless).

      We go further
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 9 June 2016 06: 30
        +7
        Quote: ProtectRusOrDie
        I mean, the message of this article is correct: “When will the French and Germans finally realize that the Americans are pushing them into chaos?


        Exactly: some technical inaccuracies are not important, the author’s surprisingly correct view of what NATO is doing and the reasons for this and what Europe should do: leave NATO ..
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 07
        0
        Let's hope for the triumph of the mind without a gross massage of the thought organ! hi
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    7. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 June 2016 06: 14
      0
      Quote: cth; fyn
      A good start to the article when strategists are called junk.

      Aha yes

      "Air support for armored vehicles will be provided by MiG-28 and Ka-52 attack helicopters."
      Continued, too, nothing ... Only now, what is the MiG - 28? recourse Or is it "Mi"? request
      Well, apparently the French scare fit. laughing
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 9 June 2016 09: 17
        +5
        Quote: Observer 33
        Well, apparently the French scare fit.

        Quote: Observer 33
        That's it: some technical inaccuracies are not important,

        Quote: Observer 33
        I mean, the message of this article is correct

        Quote: Observer 33
        But, like a horror story for the French layman, it is quite impressive. And the conclusions are correct.

        And you noticed that all the same, in Europe, before Russia, fear is the main state. It can be seen already developed at the genetic level. And enemies and friends are afraid first of all. And all deeds and words out of fear. Well, really, like in front of a bear. If not These "hunters" are swaggering in the woods, and past the den on tiptoe and in a whisper ... Well, of course, they tell among themselves who, passing by the bear, heroically farted ...
        Here, in my opinion, even propaganda is not necessary. The Western brain inflamed from fear draws terrible pictures itself.
        But tossing them "ideas" about the terrible super-new weapons of the terrible Russians, I think it is necessary to constantly ... So that they fist and fight at night.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 10
          +2
          It would be better if they began to think on their own, and not to wind up their own fears! And then they will shoot themselves with a fool or, worse, climb up to the breach.
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 9 June 2016 09: 25
        +3
        Quote: Observer 33
        Continued nothing too ... But what is the MiG - 28? recourse Or is it "Mi"? request

        wink The French do not read the end of words, and in general sometimes half the word is not stupidly read, as Zadornov says remnants of syphilis and scurvy.
        1. rosstov
          rosstov 9 June 2016 16: 42
          0
          The endings of words in no language are clearly pronounced, except for finite stressed syllables or monosyllabic languages ​​such as Chinese. This must be thought of not particularly affect the mentality, just a feature of colloquial speech.
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 11
            0
            Yeah, in Russian the endings are neither audible nor invisible. laughing
    8. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 9 June 2016 06: 25
      0
      What kind of beast is MIG28 .. The author writes complete nonsense ..
    9. Shick
      Shick 9 June 2016 06: 28
      -10%
      another URA article, we disagree nae .. deceived
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    11. siberalt
      siberalt 9 June 2016 06: 31
      +13
      Normal article and thoughts in it are sober. NATO is the US tool to deter Europe from ties with Russia, in all spheres of life. This is where the American colonial policy manifests itself, which is inherent in it historically.
    12. poacher
      poacher 9 June 2016 07: 34
      +3
      the Frenchman, what do you want! for the layman will come down, and the experts themselves know everything, especially about Russian weapons.
    13. Skif83
      Skif83 10 June 2016 08: 37
      +3
      Yes, only the B-52 last modernized in 1977. And our Tu-95s, which are on combat alert, were manufactured at the end of the 80s of the last century (not the beginning of production, namely the production of those in service), but they are constantly being modernized.
      But, from my point of view, the interpretation is somewhat incorrect:
      Russians are ordinary people. They are afraid of war and want to avoid it.
      . We are not afraid of war, we fear, but the memory of past wars and victories lives in our genes.
      And we, yes, are ready (even if not all, nobody canceled the fifth column and its hangers-on angry)!
      Just too bravura article, but we have new missiles, new tanks, planes, ships, etc. One question - how many are enough !?
    14. silver_roman
      silver_roman 10 June 2016 09: 15
      +3
      Quote: cth; fyn
      A good start to the article when strategists are called junk.

      The B-52 is something different from the Tu-95. Our "bear" has much more interesting reliability, because. they are constantly being modernized. That and turboprop engines, it seems to me, is much more practical.

      I would like to highlight several points in the article:
      Whom should this scare? Putin? On the contrary, it only pleases him

      Not a drop of it pleases neither Putin nor anyone in Russia, because the only reason for our growing level of armament is the presence of the ENEMY at the border, which has already destroyed part of the Russian world.

      "Sarmat" flies at a speed of 20 Machs

      All individual guidance blocks or just ICBM warheads fly at similar speeds. There is no know-how, another thing is that they carry out active maneuvering in several planes + snaggles give a practically guaranteed result of hitting the target. Also, new stages on new rocket fuel allow increasing speed at the launch site of ICBMs, which increases the survivability of a missile from potential destruction by EURO missile defense segments.

      "Caliber" can hit any target at a distance of 50 to 4 thousand meters and carry a nuclear warhead

      There is probably a typo. The caliber works for about 2000-2500 km depending on the warhead, with a nuclear warhead, I’m sure that the range is higher, because the mass of the warhead itself is lower. It is also worth considering that the range of both the Caliber of the Caliber family and that of Iskander missiles can be increased significantly. The only thing that prevents this is the INF.

      Not Russia starts a war, but it always ends them. ”

      Gorgeous phrase.

      In general, such articles are encouraging in foreign media, but unfortunately this does not play any role as long as the Saxons keep the eggs of the entire government top of the EU. In addition, I have always been opposed to perceiving Europe as a kind of martyr and sufferer who really wants to be friends with us, but cannot. All this is nonsense and history is proof of this. I would understand if there was one world war, but considering all kinds of Charles XII, Napoleon, and many many Europeans who came to us with a sword and glued their paws here, the conclusion is obvious: they are our enemies, not friends! Trade, science, economics should be in contact, because all kinds of iron and other curtains do not lead to good, but ALWAYS you need to keep in mind that the Western world respects ONLY strength and if you compromise, it only shows your weakness, and not your desire for dialogue and finding a solution to the problem.

      ps I forgot the most important thing. It should be borne in mind that as soon as any of the Europeans tries to play their game, passenger planes SUDDENLY begin to fall, terrorists rush around Paris, people are blown up. Pressing "kohones" (that which is between the legs) is serious.
    15. OlegLex
      OlegLex 10 June 2016 20: 22
      0
      This junk will fly for another fifty years, it hurts a very successful car
    16. LvKiller
      LvKiller 11 June 2016 08: 38
      0
      All the TU-95s in service were produced in the 80s and all have been modernized. It's not the same thing as striped junk, if that.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 9 June 2016 06: 06
    0
    To be honest, the article caused a contradiction of feelings. With all due respect to the author, it looks like an agitation from the Cold War. About B-52 in general surprised. As well as about the torpedo Status. While all the info about it is more like a desu. Well and the ending Articles are generally epic! In Europe, for a long time, everyone and everyone thinks that we are the root of all misfortunes. And they are needed only as a resource state without the right to vote! So I will leave the article without rating ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 9 June 2016 06: 21
      +9
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And they are needed only as a resource state without the right to vote! So I’ll leave the article without an assessment ...

      I wouldn’t say so! You missed or did not understand the last sentence:
      “France was ousted from European governing systems by an arrogant and hegemonic Germany. So isn't it time for Paris to withdraw from the alliance that was destructive for it and begin a serious rapprochement with Moscow? If Germany finds itself between Russia and France, two economic, military and nuclear powers, members of the UN Security Council, she will quickly understand what her interest is. This will form an axis Paris-Berlin-Moscow, which will be able to sober up the Washington madmen and their London vassals >>. This is similar to the slogan "Forward! France! With the help of Germany and Russia. But this requires a new de Gaulle."
      << De Gaulle understood this perfectly well, but pathetic Sarkozy and Hollande, who brought only disappointment, were wiped out by the Gaullist legacy, and France today is forced to follow the lead of all the stupidity of the United States - a country that was driven mad by the appropriated absolute power on the planet. >> That's my opinion the essence of the article. That is, Russia help France to get up from her knees.
    2. Winnie76
      Winnie76 9 June 2016 07: 18
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      As well as about the torpedo Status. While all the info about it is more like a disu.

      Discussed already. Technically quite feasible. If you haven’t done it yet, they will definitely do it. Status is a figure with which you can put a check and checkmate
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 9 June 2016 09: 28
        +1
        Quote: Winnie76
        Discussed already. Technically quite feasible. If you haven’t done it yet, they will definitely do it. Status is a figure with which you can put a check and checkmate

        Yesterday, only an article here was about deep-sea vehicles, such as for studying the depths of living creatures of tectonics, etc. Therefore, it seems that the real movement to implement the project into life is being conducted at an accelerated rate.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 9 June 2016 08: 12
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      about the torpedo Status. While all the info about it is more like a disu

      The sixth modification of misinformation, which half a century with a tail?
      The Americans learned about this des (nuclear torpedoes of Sakhorov) at the end of the Caribbean crisis.
      How we sophisticated and most importantly believable time to the West for 53 years lol
      1. hrapon
        hrapon 10 June 2016 09: 19
        +1
        [quote = Tusv] [quote = Magic Archer]
        <> ...... How sophisticated and most importantly believable we are since the West is already 53 years old lol[/ Quote]

        Shamed so shamed. My ears even turned red .....

        As for the article - excellent political information for "serene" European miners: it's time to get grandfather's posters from the 70s: "STOP NATO", "NOT NUCLEAR WAR", etc. Waiting ....
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 15
        0
        As a weapon of revenge - it will fit perfectly, by the principle - we will die, but you are behind us! Nuclear parity stands on the guaranteed reciprocal destruction of the victorious enemy, making the victory fatal!
      3. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 15
        0
        As a weapon of revenge - it will fit perfectly, by the principle - we will die, but you are behind us! Nuclear parity stands on the guaranteed reciprocal destruction of the victorious enemy, making the victory fatal!
  3. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 9 June 2016 06: 08
    +5
    The author, of course, bent to the count of 24500 km / h, but on the whole he clearly hints to compatriots with whom and what they will have to deal with if something happens, he conducts a good analogy with Napoleon and Hitler, and we are not afraid of war, we just don’t want it, since only we and no one else in the world know its price and the bright holiday of the Great Victory will never let us forget this price, and on June 22 we will always remember!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 9 June 2016 09: 17
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      The author, of course, turned down to 24500km / h, but on the whole he clearly hints to compatriots with whom and what they will have to deal with if something happens,

      And all this against the background of ongoing NATO exercises! Here's what one Finnish bear has done! belay And if the Russian bear wandered on their teachings? wink
  4. aniza
    aniza 9 June 2016 06: 08
    +3
    It is very rightly said:
    "Not Russia begins a war, but it always ends them."


    And any normal (adequate) person does not want war !!!
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 9 June 2016 12: 57
      +2
      Quote: aniza
      It is very rightly said:
      "Not Russia begins a war, but it always ends them."


      And any normal (adequate) person does not want war !!!

      For Americans, war is a fun adventure in a tropical hot country ... with half-naked, stunted savages armed with machetes and karamultuki ...
      Everything changes when transports with zinc coffins begin to go to the USA ... of which many are poorly brewed and stink ...
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 9 June 2016 06: 10
    +2
    It is hard to expect knowledge of our weapons from a Westerner. But in fact, he is right, we are arming ourselves, building radars, new missiles, planes, tanks.
    So, should we, the French and Europeans, make our existence dependent on the whims of the Pentagon megalomanes, who are also manipulated by the US military-industrial complex?

    The question in this case is on the verge of the existence of Europe.
  6. Wolka
    Wolka 9 June 2016 06: 13
    +2
    eh, miserable Frenchmen, that’s what, and you haven’t heard anything about the miracle of a torpedo-rocket yet, so this gossip can move under water, and at one point get out of it, and fly itself over water and land, enveloping the relief, but will come to point X exactly on schedule, so you don’t have to rush to Russia, which didn’t do you any harm, you already have yours, so your current destiny is to feed and lick the Papuans from Africa and work them out 12 hours a day ...
  7. xolod_22
    xolod_22 9 June 2016 06: 15
    +4
    Russians are ordinary people. They are afraid of war and want to avoid it. The latter cost them 28 million lives ... But they are ready If we discard some details, an adequate article resembling the voice of one crying in the desert. Does the guy have Russian roots?))
  8. CORNET
    CORNET 9 June 2016 06: 17
    +2
    I did not learn anything new from the article, but I read it with interest ..! hi
  9. Wildfox
    Wildfox 9 June 2016 06: 26
    +6
    The author, a typical European, measures everything with pieces of iron. I would draw his attention to the percentage of the population's support for the phrase "If you stick your head around, bury it."
    To exercises, and to check the mobilization readiness of the population. Citizens of NATO member countries think that modern war is hiding in the bushes and shooting at the enemy, but not this is a highly mobile theater, where during the order of the heroic attack on Moscow it is quite possible to be cut off from supply routes and under crossfire of ground forces and aviation.
    IMHO, the theory of global shock is an elegant form of suicide. I can hardly imagine how they are going to control 1/6 of the continent, in the absence of European roads, if they can’t control Iraq and Afghanistan?
  10. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 9 June 2016 07: 51
    0
    MiG-28 will provide support for armored vehicles from the air

    What kind of beast is this ??? Or have you seen enough of Hollywood?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 June 2016 08: 06
      0
      What kind of beast is this ???

      Probably Mi-28. The author is weak in knowledge of military equipment.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 9 June 2016 10: 51
        +2
        He is excusable. Do not judge strictly. The main thing here is in the subject of the article, and not in the technical subtleties.
  11. Pacifist
    Pacifist 9 June 2016 07: 53
    +2
    There are too many blunders in the article and a very superficial analysis. But the general background is set correctly ... as Otto von Bismarck said, "I know a hundred ways to lure a Russian bear out of a den, but not one to drive it back."
  12. 96423lom
    96423lom 9 June 2016 08: 12
    +2
    A normal article, the author expresses a generally correct opinion, and if such sentiments prevail in Europe, then the world will expect big changes without war. But something is tormented by vague doubts that they will prevail.
  13. igordok
    igordok 9 June 2016 08: 25
    0
    and in the worst configuration, it can serve as a delivery vehicle cobalt bombscreating a zone of radioactive contamination over a large territory.

    It seems to be a horror story from the Old Cold War.
  14. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 9 June 2016 08: 26
    0
    [quote = Ami du peuple] So further it is even more enchanting - and the hypersonic "Sarmatians" are already flying with us, and the BZHRK are on duty, and the invasion tank army is completely rearmed on the "Armata". smile

    This is what ordinary Frenchmen and the whole world were told about by mattresses intimidating the Russian threat, and they believe this, they believe in our missile trains, super torpedoes, and everything else that is only in the project and consider Russia a threat to peace. But in another way, the money for arms from the taxpayers of the European Union is not to beat the Amers. So they sow panic.
  15. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 9 June 2016 08: 31
    0
    The author has not said anything about human material. On one Rusich 20-50 natavtsev need.
    These natty pedrils will shit through the mouth when they happen to meet with Russian soldiers.
    And this is the most important thing!
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 37
      0
      And among them there are natural-born warriors, taking into account the total population of the probable "partner", you will have to strain yourself!
  16. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 9 June 2016 08: 43
    0
    We are discussing.
    Inaccuracies
    People, and at least one of you has heard of such a newspaper - Agora Vox ..... A voice from a mountain ... or rather, Yelling from a hill.
    It's just an online edition.
    How many people will read it?
    .
    Therefore, the presentation is such, and therefore the crackling is present. True, the authors forgot to mention "The Dead Hand". Brrrrrrr ...... fear, horror.
    ...
    All, of course, is correct.
    But, this is a bunch in a puddle.
    Regrettably.
  17. GAndr
    GAndr 9 June 2016 08: 53
    +3
    It is clear that the author of the article is not an expert and all of his calculations on Russia's super weapons are taken from the Western press. However, it is foolish to blame the author for ignorance. The essence of the article is not the accuracy of the definition of weapons, as well as their characteristics, but in the promise to Europe it is time to free itself from the US occupation, and Russia is not an enemy of Europe. Actually, if you do not go into technical details, then the article is very true and timely. There would have been more such articles in the Western press, and perhaps then their people would have begun to change the consciousness clouded by Anglo-Saxon propaganda.
    The article is undoubtedly a plus, big and bold!
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  19. fa2998
    fa2998 9 June 2016 10: 09
    -4
    Put a "minus" - complete ignorance of the topic. What kind of "junk", when we have his peer-turboprop Tu-95, what kind of aircraft "MiG-28", 27 and 29 I know, maybe I'm behind life. What a torpedo -which as "Porsche" goes to 185 km / h on 10000 km. Some ICBMs do not have such a range. And Russia at the moment does not have railway missile systems in service, the old ones were cut, the new ones are in development. In general, nonsense! negative hi
  20. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 9 June 2016 10: 16
    0
    This "Victor", from the point of view of politics, writes things correctly, but the technical characteristics of missile and torpedo weapons are clearly not his strong point)))
  21. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 9 June 2016 10: 48
    +2
    With the exception of some mistakes (B-52 junk, MiG-28, etc.), which is unprincipled, the author draws the right conclusions for his country and US satellites. It’s just that Europeans, because of the incomprehensible shortsightedness (stupidity) of their anti-Russian policy, sacrifice themselves, like a lamb, in the name of the interests of Merikosia.
  22. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 9 June 2016 10: 55
    +1
    Admins !!! Aww !!! Shaw for crap again? Why do I have a striped rag instead of a normal flag? am am am am am
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 9 June 2016 12: 50
      0
      Quote: Black Colonel
      Admins !!! Aww !!! Shaw for crap again? Why do I have a striped rag instead of a normal flag? am am am am am

      ... this is how the "black colonel" can become "colored"! ...
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 June 2016 11: 51
    0
    The article is a huge plus. Everything is laid out on the shelves, even for those who cannot read between the lines. It's time for American multinationals to tie up their own self-invented hegemony. Earlier there was a confrontation between various social systems, but today the confrontation of what with what, what are we measuring? Don't forget "I" is the last letter in the alphabet.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 9 June 2016 13: 45
      0
      Got it, someone felt sorry for the striped, but minus at what?
  24. CONTROL
    CONTROL 9 June 2016 12: 48
    +1
    ... What to do to prevent the cold war from turning into a "hot" one? ...
    And this is what to do - to be ready for it! And firmly state your intention - to win at all costs in this "hot" war! Then the "partners" will think many times - is it worth it ... is it necessary? ... or is it better not? ...
    Who watched the movie "Officers"?
    This is where the question "what to do if there is a war" does not stand before anyone: what to do? win, what else! Be ready to die but win! That's what they live for, these officers ...
    Showing this readiness - we prevent war!
    -------------
    ... is this why the APU attacks on Novorossia in Ukraine are choked up? Because - some are ready only killand others ready to give my life for victory...
    1. VIK_1961
      VIK_1961 9 June 2016 14: 25
      0
      ... some are ready only to kill, while others are ready to give their lives for victory ... This is the most important secret of the mysterious Slavic soul, which is "in the public domain" for us, and is hidden behind seven seals for the "tolerant and enlightened" western civilization.
      We do not need war, we do not want it, but: "If tomorrow is a war, if tomorrow is on a campaign, if dark forces are coming ....".
  25. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 9 June 2016 16: 49
    0
    Check this out ! And there are also quite sane people there!
    And the fact that this is not an article is another insane ue..sche broadcasts about the Russian threat.
  26. vikvik310
    vikvik310 9 June 2016 19: 40
    0
    death am !!!
  27. gelezo47
    gelezo47 9 June 2016 20: 35
    +4
    It’s good that there are people in Europe who are aware of what is happening. But there are very few of them ... I would like the Europeans to gain insight before the Russians finish the next war ....
  28. Aristide
    Aristide 10 June 2016 08: 47
    0
    What can I say, timely conclusions and arguments. Russia does not want war, but is not going to surrender. Russian character, you know! This is the military secret of Russia. As the story says: "Whoever comes to us with a sword will perish by the sword!" So that. it is better to go to Russia without a sword, but with friendship.
  29. Eugen
    Eugen 10 June 2016 09: 07
    0
    For the past two years, Americans have been trying to restart their own military-industrial complex. A big war for everyone is likely to be the last, but small and scattered around the world is a business of which wow. Yes, here Russia is rearming, it’s just a PR gift for NATO. We have to take grandmothers from amers for a long time for using the brand RUSSIA.
  30. Engineer
    Engineer 10 June 2016 11: 30
    0
    B-52, this junk, by the way, has been in service since 1955,

    The Tu-95 has been in service since 1956, and even its propulsion system has not been upgraded nirazu, unlike several times on the American junk. Underestimation, and here generally stupid ignorance, of the enemy leads to grave consequences.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 45
      0
      Is the launch of turbines, urgently, in 52 now happening without the help of powder bombs?
  31. kukan913
    kukan913 10 June 2016 12: 08
    0
    The third world will be the last world, the fourth will not be a bullet in the history of mankind
  32. arjuna307
    arjuna307 10 June 2016 12: 30
    +2
    Well, you can’t print texts so biased. Straight Lithuanian for couch Hurray patriots. Too often, similar materials began to appear on the VO. Everything is OK with us, they have a complete J..pa! We hit the chest with our heels, wishful thinking. And the B-52 to crash, but that 95ms is a PLANE! Do not write nonsense. There are enough problems, and not everything is so rosy. And these problems must be solved. Yes Armata is probably a good tank, probably the best tank, but there are few of them, and for the production of these weapons, a lot needs to be done, and for deliveries to armaments it is also a long way, and to train personnel to use all this, this is also time, this is not a year and not two. The same thing about PAX. Yes, new planes and ships, new submarines, thank God it began to appear, thank God technology has not been lost, and factories, shipyards and design bureaus have not collapsed to the end. It’s good when a country invests a lot of resources in the military-industrial complex and the army, that’s right. But we must look at things soberly and sensibly, and not to shout we are the coolest, but quietly and silently do the thing. Whatever you need, quietly and silently beat someone who needs all their teeth, and it’s better to roll their neck.
    Europeans themselves do not know what they want, and to take seriously rare articles with their favorite content from shabby European newspapers is stupid and not far-sighted. Do not think that fools are sitting there, they all know very well about their and our capabilities, these are politics and money.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 10 June 2016 22: 59
      0
      We know very well about their "ass"! 324 million Americans + 508 million EU citizens! But Russia is not going to stay on their territories, and their problems will remain only their problems! The main thing is not to forget about their sacred principle - NOT ACCEPTABLE DAMAGE! And hit the sickest, the banks! laughing
  33. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 10 June 2016 15: 04
    0
    And since what year is the Tu-95 in service?
  34. Rostislav
    Rostislav 10 June 2016 15: 27
    0
    The presentation style is intended for the western man in the street, with deliberate escalation of emotions.
    The conclusions are correct, that’s what pleases.
  35. VB
    VB 10 June 2016 16: 13
    0
    Emotionally, but in general, the author sets out correctly. Well done!
  36. acetophenon
    acetophenon 10 June 2016 19: 07
    0
    Quote: Altona
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    So further it is even more enchanting - and the hypersonic "Sarmatians" are already flying here, and the BZHRK are on duty, and the tank army of the invasion is completely rearmed on the "Armata".

    ------------------------
    The author of the article is a publicist and uses open sources. He can’t come to the Ministry of Defense and ask for secret information about the complete performance characteristics of our weapons and their presence in the troops.

    Why? I am sure that he did not even try! And what kind of journalist is he after? A journalist can be true. May be false. It can be biased. But he is simply obliged to be impudent!
  37. Old warrior
    Old warrior 10 June 2016 20: 12
    +1
    Ours need to declare all the bordering states the Zone of Russian Interests and to regard the presence of NATO troops in them as an Act of Unmotivated Aggression against Russia. With the appropriate response (no-fly zone, preventive measures, etc. ...)
  38. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 10 June 2016 22: 08
    0
    The article is correct, although much of the above (weapons systems) is not enough with what we have said, but let us remember how the USSR reorganized its economy in the shortest possible time (Everything for the front, everything for the Victory!), They will think carefully and calm down again. It is possible and forever.
  39. Every
    Every 10 June 2016 22: 59
    0
    Quote: AllXVahhaB
    And since what year is the Tu-95 in service?


    Produced from 1955 to 1992, about 500 were produced. Now there are 62 units left in service, these are the vehicles of the most recent years of production i.e. the second half of the 80s of the early 90s. years. But the B-52 was produced from 1952 to 1962, (now a little more than 70 pieces remain) i.e. those cars that the United States has are much older than the TU-95.
  40. t118an
    t118an 10 June 2016 23: 23
    0
    De Gaulle understood this perfectly, but miserable Sarkozy and Hollande alone brought disappointment

    they wanted tolerance, liberalism - that is, they chose their rulers. And in order for the new De Gaulle to be born, the French must first get rid of LGBT people, well, and the Arabs at the same time
  41. romashki74
    romashki74 11 June 2016 04: 13
    0
    Since childhood, I love science fiction. I would read and read ..... laughing
  42. Gennady Chepur
    Gennady Chepur 11 June 2016 07: 33
    0
    A good article ... Well, yes, Statuses, Sarmatians and Armats are not yet in service, but after all, Topoli, Yarsy, Maces, Sineva can not only destroy the USA and Europe, but in general all life on the planet ... Yes, and conventional weapons, judging by Syria, is also impressive.
    So, in essence, the author is right: do not pull the sleeping bear’s mustache, gentlemen, globalists!
  43. duchy
    duchy 11 June 2016 11: 29
    0
    "Good" article, the West specifically scares what this data alone is worth:
    The new Iskander-M missile system is a dangerous weapon from any point of view. Although technically it is a tactical short-range missile (less than 1 km with an official range of 000 km), it can be used to launch R-500s with a range of 500 thousand km
    The strategic torpedo “Status-6” can go at a depth of up to 1 thousand meters with a speed of up to 185 km / h and a range of 10 thousand kilometers.

    Obviously the author knows a little more than we do. what But it's nice that we have such a technique. good drinks
  44. behemot
    behemot 11 June 2016 11: 43
    0
    it is necessary to read the Poles, Khokhlov, Baltic tigers more often, so that it comes to the rams - you are stupid meat, the first wave for slaughter. They decided it for you, and you roar with delight and desire to die.
  45. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 11 June 2016 15: 36
    0
    An article in the cognitive aspect - TTX, quantity, names, informative. In the analytical aspect, it is nothing of itself. NATO will never fight the old fashioned way. The only opportunity for NATO and the US to somehow try to take Russia under control is the only one, it’s also the main factor of internal betrayal. The generals will refuse to strike back at the United States and Europe, Europe and the United States will strike at Russia, then transport aviation delivers mobile units to the command and control centers of Russia and everything, Russia is under control. The only way. Other methods are doomed to failure, and swift and cruel. NATO knows this. And they pull together forces for the exercises to create only a picture, so that especially impressionable officials and generals start shouting out loud that they don’t need to resist, look at their power, we’ll lose anyway. Gentlemen, the finale begins. The West and the United States play the last act with Russia. Elections and their outcome will be the starting point of either the revival of Russia or the chaos and civil war in Russia. Putin made it clear which party should be brought into the State Duma to the maximum - United Russia is the only stabilizing force in Russia. Her United Russia, with all their might, has now begun to spread rot on all Russian channels, and more and more mud will be poured on United Russia. Citizens of Russia should simply believe Putin and, no matter what, vote for United Russia in the upcoming elections, introduce as many deputies of United Russia to the State Duma as possible and thereby secure the possibility of Putin through the Russian State Duma to amend the Constitution and laws of Russia to secure its sovereignty and independence.
  46. andrew42
    andrew42 11 June 2016 16: 14
    0
    Yes, a normal article. She is not written for VO! And for a random western man inadvertently glancing at an Internet link. The essence of the article is simple: France is in a bad company. And the listing of the glands is the nuances. For the most convincing proof that a bad company can lead to the last campaign in the history of white Europe. The more such articles, the better. Though in the toilets glued, all forward. After all, France is the only key to destroying NATO. Well, not Germany!
  47. ser-pov
    ser-pov 16 June 2016 16: 35
    0
    Quote: bogdan4ik
    The only opportunity for NATO and the US to try to take Russia under control is the only one, it’s also the main factor of internal betrayal. The generals will refuse to strike back at the USA and Europe, Europe and the USA will strike at Russia, then transport aviation delivers mobile units to the command and control centers of Russia and everything, Russia is under control. The only way


    Well, they did it, so what? Where have we gone, and the army? Partisaning in Russia is one grace ... fellow